[HPFGU-Movie] Important Negative Spoilers Request

[Richard Thorp]

Sunday, November 10, 2002, 4:48:32 AM, Richelle wrote:

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RV> Rich writes:

>> Oh! Before I forget... Lucius starting Avada Kedavra.. _SO_ out of
>> character its untrue, he is the snivelling bully, not the powerful
>> sorceror. He wouldn't risk so much (Harry would recognise the start of
>> AK, definitely) by doing that, no way in hell. Though his wand casing
>> is relatively cool.

RV> I just thought of something.  Harry hadn't even heard of AK before GoF,
RV> right?  So maybe this has two points.  Maybe it's to show us that Lucius is
RV> a DE.  Which really has no purpose, because those of us who know what AK is
RV> also know he's a DE.  Second, if JKR okayed that, perhaps it's to show him
RV> losing his temper?  Maybe he would have a violent reaction to something in
RV> the future and kill someone (who?) before stopping to think.  I don't really
RV> know.

I can see this becoming my pet crusade :)

Lucius (I believe) is a very cowardly person. Hes a DE, true, but he
is a DE purely because he has a vindictive and cruel nature.. He isn't
a brave sort of person (otherwise he'd be in Voldermorts place as soon
as Voldie's AK backfired. Point taken about Harry not knowing AK,
Dementors don't come until PoA.. Ill check through book1/2 though...
Anyway back to my point :)

I really, really don't see Lucius losing his rag over something as
seemingly trivial (maybe theres a hidden dimension to this, I don't
know :) matter.. Losing a servant would not bother him all that much..
I expect he could get hold of a new House Elf.. Personally I believe
he was so annoyed because he (like most evil people) assumes everyone
is as bad as he is, and will do what he would do in a situation.. In
this one, he assumes that Dobby will blab everything that went on in
the Malfoy household (Why has Dobby not done that, anyway? Some form
of nobility? A lingering attachement to owners as part of a house elf
bond (which I assume exists, maybe a facet of house elf magic)?
Although with the last, Dobby has broken with so much house elf
tradition/convention, I wouldn't have thought this much of a leap for
him?) Anyway. Lucius would ALSO assume (I recon) that Harry would know
about AK, and thus, actually using AK is a HUGE risk to him. If he was
caught even TRYING to cast it against anyone, let alone Harry, then he
would be in Azkaban despite any of his connections, no question. No
connection is strong enough to deflect an attempted murder.

In any case. It's not in Lucius' character to take such an overt
action. All of his actions from past to present have been at least
covert enough that he would not be implicated. But killing Harry in
that situation would surely cause him *huge* problems. Explain that
away! Dead Harry found in prescence of Dobby (a witness.. Altho can
house elves give testimony? No muggle world precedent for it really,
so not sure...) and when Dumbledore (upstanding and respected wizard)
knows exactly where Harry is, and who is with him... Definitely a hard
one, if not impossible, to deflect that. Wow, this is becoming a bit
of an essay :)

Basically, Lucius is a coward. Cf. his snivelling nature in GoF
(Graveyard scene), the fact that he was one of the first to claim the
Imperius defense, he dropped all overt connections to Voldie as soon
as humanly possible when Voldie met his end, these are all actions of
the classic bully, or even closer to bully's henchman to be honest. He
will bully people when he has power behind him:
PS/CoS/PoA - Power of MoM connections, and pretty much immunity to
prosecution.
GoF (World Cup Muggle Torture) - Power of memories of Voldie's reign,
and the power associated with being behind a mask/disguise. (As an
aside, he was the ringleader in that I assume, and since he was
ringleader, and the Dark Mark turned up, they scattered... Well, this
is just him showing his cowardly nature once more)
Post GoF (maybe) and Voldies-Reign (deffo) - The immense power of a
hugely powerful Dark Wizard and the power of the Death Eaters behind
him.

Sorry for the long mail! :)

I suppose I should post some of this on the HPFGU list, as a
character study of Lucius.. But there are some movie refs in it (most
of it is stemmed from one tiny bit of the movie, hehe).

Whilst I'm on the subject of power, spirit!Voldemort being happy
about diary-Riddle!Voldemort's ascension? I *really* don't buy that,
unless there was some way for the spirit to re-posess the body? Or
even co-habit.. and I don't see Riddle!Voldie liking that one tiny bit
:) Nature of that sort of power hungry person to be very paranoid for
one, and completely unwilling to share power on a partnership level.

Hope someone can be bothered to read all of that! :)

-Rich
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