Hagrid in COS

[Margaret Thomas]

> Message: 16
>    Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:30:34 -0800 (PST)
>    From: Lilac <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re:  Hagrid in COS
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> Gail wrote:
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> <<<Y'know, when I saw that last scene in the movie I
> had a major 
> premonition.  
> I was wondering what other people thought.
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> Spoiler space, just in case...
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> Now, when I saw that last scene, where all the kids
> are gathering 
> around 
> Hagrid, and everybody's applauding, the first thing
> I thought was, "Uh, 
> oh...it's for sure...Hagrid's gonna bite the big one
> in book five."  My 
> bets 
> were on Dumbledore, but now I've changed my mind.
> 
> Did anybody else think like this or is it just me?
> 
> -Gail B.>>>
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> Gail, that was my first thought at that scene,
> because I couldn't understand why Hagrid was getting
> such a long, drawn-out standing ovation.  
> 
> There's also a video interview with Robbie Coltrane
> (or is it Coltraine?) somewhere on the WB site that
> has him talking about being signed up for 5 movies,
> or something like that.  Does anyone know where that
> interview is, because I can't seem to find it.


Have mulled this over as well, especially recalling R.
Coltrane's interview.  Am of two minds and would love
to hear other people's opinions to sway me
definitively one way or the other.

a) "There is no Hogwarts without you, Hagrid," is
foreshadowing that we'll lose Hagrid in OotP and that
Harry will experience a significant and devastating
emotional blow as a result.  In fact, Sirius aside, as
Hogwarts is Harry's true home, Hagrid is a pivotal
member of Harry's family within that home.  Riddle
targeted Hagrid as a scapegoat in youth; Voldemort
will target Hagrid once more in order to destroy Harry
and eliminate the threat Harry poses to Voldemort's
power.  The "phoenix rising from the ashes" does not
refer to Dumbledore, but to Harry's ability to rise
from this tragic loss and triumph against Voldemort.

b) "There is no Hogwarts without you, Hagrid,"
represents the stability Hagrid will provide in
Harry's otherwise tumultuous life at Hogwarts. In
which case, can we look to Dumbledore as the probable
character destined for demise in Book 5, ie., allegory
to the Phoenix dying then rising from the ashes? 
Dumbledore's absence leaves Harry and all of Hogwarts
vulnerable to Voldemort.  Without Dumbledore, Harry
will lose his primary mentor, the man who is both
Harry's (and our narrative) window into the
significance of past events (a la the Pensieve), and 
his "sounding board" (ie., did the Sorting Hat place
me in the right House?).  Hagrid himself has
proclaimed Dumbledore's critical role at Hogwarts, has
named Dumbledore as the one person who believed in
Hagrid's innocence following accusations about the
CoS.  Both Harry and Hagrid would be at risk without
Dumbledore's presence.

- M.

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