[HPFGU-Movie] Re: More thoughts on Lucius/ Harry's (mis)characterization/ Request for favorite lines

[Richelle Votaw]

First, thanks for all the great lines from CoS!  I've really been enjoying
them!

Now, on to other things:

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Christi writes:

> I think technically the curse wasn't "blocked," because it was never
> actually cast--Lucius was prevented from completing the incantation
> by Dobby knocking him halfway down the hall.  That's my
> understanding, anyway

That's the way I see it.  To me, a wizard could stand around saying "Avada"
all day long and not get anywhere, no matter how powerful they were.  I
mean, if just the pronunciation of "Wingardium Leviosa" keeps it from
working, surely leaving off half the incantation would prevent a curse from
actually being cast.  So Lucius' "ak" was interrupted, not blocked.

Claudine wrote:

> Also, did anyone else notice Lucius Malfoy start saying "Avada..." at
> Harry when he'd freed Dobby, before the house-elf intervened. Talk
> about trampling on canon!!!!! No-one but Voldy has tried to kill
> Harry. This unecessary manipulation of the plot could end up canon-
> problematic.

Well, not necessarily.  Technically Quirrell was trying to kill Harry (egged
on by Voldemort, yes) though he never quite got to his wand, so I guess that
can't count.  Then there's Crouch who was about to try to kill Harry when
Dumbledore and co. showed up.  I don't think it's really canon-problematic,
but I think it was an unnecessary bit of foreshadowing.  Due to the fact
that anybody who knows enough HP to know what Avada Kedavra is also knows
that Lucius is a DE.  So I don't quite understand the point.  I don't mind
it, not really, but it doesn't seem to be very useful.


> illyana delorean wrote
> > Am I the only person who thought that the Lucius/Harry exchange
> > in Dumbledore's office was completely cheesy? (You know, the "save
> > the day/I will be" thing) Everyone seems to love it.

GulPlum writes:

> I absolutely HATED it.
> Much has been made in some posts of the way Kloves and/or Columbus
> seem to misunderstand what Harry's about. That line of Harry's
> (suggested to Dan by Columbus, and furthermore to be delivered "like
> Clint Eastwood") is *SO* not Harry.

I'm still confused on who's idea this line was.  According to Jason Isaacs
he suggested it *and* told Daniel to "say it like Clint Eastwood."  Well,
that's beside the point, really, I suppose.

> He takes no particular pleasure in being the hero, and doesn't rally
> see anything he's done as particularly heroic. Confronting Lucius
> with a line like that just doesn't ring true for me.

I think I know what they were aiming at.  Not necessarily that Harry was
taking pleasure in being heroic, but that he was standing up to someone.  As
you know, I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if Lucius says anything
negative about Harry's parents.  But in the book he did.  And I always
wondered why Harry stood idly by.  Which may or may not be relevant.

That point aside, I think they were aiming at building Harry from the rather
timid little boy in SS/PS to the rather bold young man who yells in Snape's
face when his father is insulted.  A transitional phase so to speak.  They
may have missed the mark slightly, but I think that was the general
intention.

Richelle