More on Parseltounge...
Scott
insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Nov 22 19:55:39 UTC 2002
I just wrote:
"I meant about parseltounge that when the snake speaks in the wall
it's in English, albeit with a slithery sound but still-, and when
Harry or Tom speak it we hear another language all
together...shouldn't their's be all slithery english too...I suppose
this is a plot point that takes its ambiguity from the book, but
it's not as confusing on paper since we can't *hear* it."
--Let me expound upon this point a bit more. There's a problem with
speaking Parselmouth, I think, that's present in both the books and
the movie (but makes more sense whe on screen). Someone's probably
talked about this before, somewhere, sometime, but I'm sayin' it
again. ;)
If a person comes up to me and starts speaking French I will
understand him or her, but I'm still going to hear them in French.
If I want to know what they said in English then *I* have to
translate it in my mind. If I speak French to someone I will *know*
what I'm saying English (and French) but all I'm going to *hear* is
the French.
Basically when we speak or hear a language we speak and hear that
language. That's incredibly obvious but an important point, because
Parselmouth has a completely different set of circumstances. When
Harry *hears* parselmouth he hears English. The snake is speaking in
English; hence, he doesn't know that it's a snake, just a voice.
But when Harry speaks *to* a snake it comes out in a voice that he
cannot understand (if he can hear it at all, which perhaps he
can't), although he knows *what* he's saying. Right? I'm getting a
bit confused, the logistics don't make a whole lot of sense.
Also if a French person isn't around I can still speak French, not
so with Harry and Parseltounge . It just happens. Harry doesn't try
to speak parseltoungue and can't just start speaking it
randomly...so it's inherently tied not only the ability to speak it,
but to the prescence of snakes as well...
Someone made another point about in the first/book movie Harry isn't
*aware* what he's speaking. Is he still speaking it? The short
answer is yes, but then I still can't decide whether Harry know's
he's speaking it, or if it just seems that he did (like in the
bathroom opening the chamber portal- it opened so he must've.)...now
I'm really lost and I think I might've lost you guys too!
Help me out on this eh?
Scott
who really wishes that they'd just done subtitles. Oy!
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