From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  1 02:42:48 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:42:48 -0500
Subject: CoS Poster book/postcard book
References: <an8gs4+gk6q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01a001c268f4$3b949f60$c39fcdd1@istu757>

All right everyone, run out to your local bookstore immediately.  The CoS
poster book is now in bookstores.  If my local Books-A-Million has it,
anyone will have it!  They are always the last to get anything.  I already
had the poster book, so I didn't need it, but they did have a couple of
other new books!  The HP CoS Trace a Scene book (glorified coloring book,
but great sketches) and the CoS postcard book.  The postcard book did have a
few new pictures, and there is one of the duel with spinning whoever in the
air.  From what you can see it does appear to be Draco, but I think we'd
settled that. :)  There's also one of Harry & co. looking at Mrs. Norris
hanging by the wall.  Poor cat.  Also one of Harry bending over Ginny in the
chamber looking at ???  I'm assuming Tom Riddle, it's not in the picture.
Ah, well, that's all the fun for now!

Richelle

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---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct  1 03:05:23 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 03:05:23 -0000
Subject: UK newspapers give a look at new COS poster
In-Reply-To: <an9tg5+7thb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <anb3dj+kj9d@eGroups.com>


Christi wrote:
> > Wow, Gina!  Thanks for posting the link.  The picture looks 
really 
> > intense, doesn't it?  And, is it just me, or does Hermione 
(Emma) 
> > look evil? Ron (Rupert) looks great - his facial expressions are 
> > priceless.  :)
> > 
> 
> I don't know if "evil" is the right word for it, although it could 
be 
> construed as such...definitely a "don't mess with this!" look, 
though.
> 
> Is it just me, or does this poster have a "Lord of the Rings"-ish 
> look to it?

It does look...rather. The poses of the characters are somewhat the 
same.  They're trying to convey the idea that this film has a bit 
more of an edge to it than PS/SS, I think.   I really don't like the 
way they posed Daniel, though, but perhaps that is to emphasize the 
whole "Heir of Slytherin" idea. Now he is the one who I think looks 
menacing. By shading one side of his face like that, it appears that 
Harry might indeed have an evil side.  In any event, it's exciting 
to know the Premier is so close, isn't it?
--Nia




From amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com  Tue Oct  1 12:18:14 2002
From: amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com (faura2002)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:18:14 -0000
Subject: COS trailers
In-Reply-To: <an2e2h+5hrk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <anc3q6+mo7n@eGroups.com>

Does anybody know how long the movie is?


Thanks! <Sorry for the short post.>


faura




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  1 13:17:49 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:17:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: COS trailers
Message-ID: <1109242.1033478269568.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

> Does anybody know how long the movie is?
> 
> 
> Thanks! <Sorry for the short post.>
> 
> 
> faura

I've heard that it's 183 minutes, but I don't know if that was the final cut or 
not.  I hope so!  

Richelle
  ----------

Does anybody know how long the movie is?


Thanks! <Sorry for the short post.>


faura



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From corgi at SFF.net  Tue Oct  1 17:01:56 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:01:56 -0000
Subject: Casting Sirius - mail info
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For anyone who might be interested/concerned, postage to the U.K. to 
write Jina Jay, the Casting Director, is $0.80 from the U.S.  The 
stamp depicts Mt. McKinley.

Corgi, Trivial Dog
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/

(183 minutes???  WOW!)




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  1 18:43:27 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Carter as Sirius
Message-ID: <20021001184327.62219.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com>


Corgi, in her Carter/Sirius campaign, said: 

I don't just mean the straight-woman/gay-man drool-object
type of thing, although that can definitely help sell an actor, eh? 


She then clarified this for me:

My point was, though, that the same actor straight women are going to
drool over is -likely- to also have a good bit of appeal for gay men.
 That's all, just a selling-the-product reference.

Now Me:

Ah Hah!  Now I understand!  You meant like how Will and Grace are both after the same thing...good looking men.  I get it!  I guess that would be a good selling point.  I thought you were saying that straight women would be attracted to a good looking gay character.  Thanks for clarifying this!

> Lilac (whose husband thought it was hilarious to give her a
> plastice figurine of Legolas for her birthday because of her
> crush on the Orlando Bloom character)

Corgi:

<giggle>  He does bleach up real pretty.

Me:

Oh, heavens, YES!  Blond is definitely better on him!

Lilac, whose son has officially taken over the Legolas figurine now <sigh>...



 

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  1 19:31:35 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:31:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: CoS Postcard pictures
Message-ID: <26611835.1033500695400.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

I've scanned some of the CoS postcard book pictures (the new ones) and they're 
at my clubphoto site:

http://members7.clubphoto.com/richelle407705/939880/guest.phtml

Richelle
  ----------


Corgi, in her Carter/Sirius campaign, said: 

I don't just mean the straight-woman/gay-man drool-object
type of thing, although that can definitely help sell an actor, eh? 


She then clarified this for me:

My point was, though, that the same actor straight women are going to
drool over is -likely- to also have a good bit of appeal for gay men.
 That's all, just a selling-the-product reference.

Now Me:

Ah Hah!  Now I understand!  You meant like how Will and Grace are both after the same thing...good looking men.  I get it!  I guess that would be a good selling point.  I thought you were saying that straight women would be attracted to a good looking gay character.  Thanks for clarifying this!

> Lilac (whose husband thought it was hilarious to give her a
> plastice figurine of Legolas for her birthday because of her
> crush on the Orlando Bloom character)

Corgi:

<giggle>  He does bleach up real pretty.

Me:

Oh, heavens, YES!  Blond is definitely better on him!

Lilac, whose son has officially taken over the Legolas figurine now <sigh>...



 

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From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk  Tue Oct  1 20:00:26 2002
From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:00:26 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS Premieres?
Message-ID: <v01540b00b9be64c951c0@[212.56.33.12]>

I read November 3rd for the London premiere.

Don't know about the length, but our local cinema is scheduling the
previews 3.5 hours apart.

Some nice stills from CoS in this month's Total Film; Branagh in
swashbucking style; Harry looking the worse for wear, presumably post-CoS
encounter; Ginny looking scared; the Weasley kitchen and Dumbledore's
study.

Regards,
Nicholas





From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  1 19:53:52 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:53:52 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS Poster book/postcard book
Message-ID: <F132Pj3VQBbvDuFTtuE00008978@hotmail.com>

Richelle Wrote:

>All right everyone, run out to your local bookstore >immediately.  The CoS 
>poster book is now in >bookstores.

I...Must...Obey...

>If my local Books-A-Million has it, anyone will have >it!  They are always 
>the last to get anything.

Went to Borders Bookstore on my lunch-break...they didn't have it!  I asked 
them if it could be ordered...they couldn't even find it on their computer.  
What a bummer!  The Books-A-Million find must have been a fluke.  I'm gonna 
still keep looking, though.

-Gail B.


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From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  1 20:10:23 2002
From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 20:10:23 -0000
Subject: Gay Actors, was Carter as Sirius
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0209300916050.21741-100000@blood.byz.org>
Message-ID: <ancvfg+ke1o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Vicki <morrigan at b...> wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that the ONLY way to know anyone's sexual
> orientation is if they tell someone reputable or show evidence of a
> relationship.  There are likely many people in Hollywood in the 
closet,
> and that doesn't make them either better or worse than their peers 
in
> their profession.
> 
> And I know that you guys have been playful with it and aren't 
meaning to
> sound negative, but I had to chime in with the voice of reason. :)  
I'm
> sure the last thing this list wants is to start rumor-mongering!
> 
> Queerly yours,
> Vicki

Hear! Hear!  Who cares!  Ian McKellen is gay and out, and he did a 
much better job as Gandalf in Fellowship of the Rings than Richard 
Harris, who is definitely straight, did as Dumbledore.  They are 
acting, after all, not showing their real life personalities.

Haggridd




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  2 15:22:08 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Gay Actors, was Carter as Sirius
Message-ID: <20021002152208.70854.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>



Message: 7
   Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 20:10:23 -0000
   From: "Haggridd" <jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Gay Actors, was Carter as Sirius

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Vicki <morrigan at b...> wrote:
> I'd just like to point out that the ONLY way to know anyone's sexual
> orientation is if they tell someone reputable or show evidence of a
> relationship.  There are likely many people in Hollywood in the 
closet,
> and that doesn't make them either better or worse than their peers 
in
> their profession.
> 
> And I know that you guys have been playful with it and aren't 
meaning to
> sound negative, but I had to chime in with the voice of reason. :)  
I'm
> sure the last thing this list wants is to start rumor-mongering!
> 
> Queerly yours,
> Vicki

Then, Haggridd said:

Hear! Hear!  Who cares!  Ian McKellen is gay and out, and he did a 
much better job as Gandalf in Fellowship of the Rings than Richard 
Harris, who is definitely straight, did as Dumbledore.  They are 
acting, after all, not showing their real life personalities.

Now Me:  

I agree!  Ian McClelland did a smashing job as Gandalf!  And you're right about it not mattering.  My first post was a little insensitive with my opinion and  I wasn't clear on what Corgi was saying.  I guess I have an issue with Gay!Sirius, who is big in fan fic, when I see no evidence in canon pointing to that (my interpretation...I'm sure someone with another interpretation can make a case for Gay!Sirius.)  I'll be more sensitive with my opinions from now on.

Lilac, who has been rightly chastised and will stop ironing her fingers...




 

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From itzregina at hanson.net  Thu Oct  3 14:27:17 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 14:27:17 -0000
Subject: Rumor:  No Rickman in POA
Message-ID: <anhk45+8ldv@eGroups.com>

http://thefacer.net/viewcomment.asp?FBID=111

The first person to comment on this rumor hopes it is true!  

Gina




From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  3 14:49:32 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 07:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rumor:  No Rickman in POA
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Message-ID: <20021003144932.82393.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Regina <itzregina at hanson.net> wrote:
> http://thefacer.net/viewcomment.asp?FBID=111
> 
> The first person to comment on this rumor hopes it is
> true!  
> 
> Gina>>

That poor misguided poster needs some serious detention
with Filch and a cranky blast ended skrewt...I added my few
sickles worth.

 To paraphrase Lucious Lucius....Let us hope the casting
powers that be see the light....

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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Thu Oct  3 11:23:47 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:23:47 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Address for casting for PoA
Message-ID: <27B4B61767@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

Here's your chance to get in your ideas to the person that 
will be doing the casting!

The Leaky Cauldron just posted the name and address of the 
new casting director.

So...all you Jason Carter fans and the such, get busy 
sending your ideas!

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/index.html

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'



From divaclv at aol.com  Thu Oct  3 15:29:13 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 15:29:13 -0000
Subject: Rumor:  No Rickman in POA
In-Reply-To: <20021003144932.82393.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <anhno9+cmrf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Barbara Sheridan <bsher213 at y...> wrote:
> That poor misguided poster needs some serious detention
> with Filch and a cranky blast ended skrewt...I added my few
> sickles worth.
> 

No, that's too generous...how about latrine duty at Azkaban for a few 
days?

Seriously, my issue with this rumor is: if AR is so irritated about 
not having enough to do in the films (and let's face it, I think he 
has a point), why would he bow out just before the character REALLY 
comes into his own?  We don't start to get the full measure of 
Snape's character until PoA, I think.

~Christi, kidding (sort of) about the latrine duty but serious about 
everything else




From corgi at SFF.net  Thu Oct  3 23:43:33 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 23:43:33 -0000
Subject: Address for casting for PoA
In-Reply-To: <27B4B61767@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <anikn5+7214@eGroups.com>

--- Rachel Bray wrote:
> Here's your chance to get in your ideas to the person that 
> will be doing the casting!
> 
> The Leaky Cauldron just posted the name and address of the 
> new casting director.
> 
> So...all you Jason Carter fans and the such, get busy 
> sending your ideas!

Yeah!  I get first dibs on anybody sending letters! ;) (It's US$0.80, 
did you see that post?)

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!




From corgi at SFF.net  Fri Oct  4 00:04:51 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:04:51 -0000
Subject: Prisoner of Azkaban - casting - letter campaign
Message-ID: <anilv3+a3op@eGroups.com>

Gentle readers,

I thought it might be helpful to repost the mailing addresses for the 
PoA casting letter campaign.

---------------------------------------------------
Contact Addresses for Jason Carter campaign

Jina Jay
Casting Office
Leavsden Studios
PO Box 322
Watford, Hertfordshire
WD25 7XJ
UNITED KINGDOM

Reason for contact? Casting director for the film
---------------------------------------------------
Mitchell K. Stubbs
8675 West Washington Boulevard, Suite 203
Culver City, CA 90232

Reason for contact? Jason's agent
Please copy all correspondence to this address!
---------------------------------------------------
Alfonso Cuar?n
c/o Endeavor Agency, Steve Ravineau
9701 Wilshire Blvd., 10th Floor
Beverly Hills, CA 90212

Reason for contact? Director of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of 
Azkaban
---------------------------------------------------
Chris J. Columbus
c/o Creative Artists Agency, Beth Swofford
9830 Wilshire Blvd.
Beverly Hills, CA 90212

Reason for contact? Producer/consultant for Harry Potter and the 
Prisoner of Azkaban
---------------------------------------------------

Thank you!

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  4 12:18:00 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:18:00 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Rumor: No Rickman in POA
Message-ID: <F134PgaVUPC5GXNEL7s0000ed00@hotmail.com>

Cristi wrote:

>Seriously, my issue with this rumor is: if AR is so irritated about
>not having enough to do in the films (and let's face it, I think he
>has a point), why would he bow out just before the character REALLY
>comes into his own?  We don't start to get the full measure of
>Snape's character until PoA, I think.

My Two Knuts:

I have to agree...I mean, anybody can pick up a copy of PoA and see how many 
cool scenes Snape is going to have in the future: the interrogation of 
Harry, the Shack (oh, YES! The Shack!) Not to mention what's coming up in 
GoF!  I don't know, but having a bit of acting blood in me, if I was 
Rickman, I would be pretty durn pleased with playing the role of Snape 
especially in future movies.

-Gail B. who is trying not to let even the thought of a Rickman-less PoA 
upset the rest of her day :(>

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From itzregina at hanson.net  Fri Oct  4 13:45:16 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 13:45:16 -0000
Subject: Rumor: No Rickman in POA
In-Reply-To: <F134PgaVUPC5GXNEL7s0000ed00@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <ank61c+o9lv@eGroups.com>

> I have to agree...I mean, anybody can pick up a copy of PoA and see 
how many cool scenes Snape is going to have in the future: the 
interrogation of Harry, the Shack (oh, YES! The Shack!) Not to 
mention what's coming up in GoF!  I don't know, but having a bit of 
acting blood in me, if I was Rickman, I would be pretty durn pleased 
with playing the role of Snape especially in future movies.
> 
> -Gail B. who is trying not to let even the thought of a Rickman-
less PoA 
> upset the rest of her day :(>


Also, I thought Alan liked being able to do more acting on the side 
BECAUSE the character of Snape wasn't all consuming.  This is really 
starting to sound like a false rumor.  Keeping my fingers crossed!

Gina
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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  5 00:02:16 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 00:02:16 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Rumor: No Rickman in POA
Message-ID: <F93PkQTGpaoG1VRIjn00000f781@hotmail.com>

I (Gail B.) Wrote Earlier Today:

>anybody can pick up a copy of PoA and see
>how many cool scenes Snape is going to have in the >future: the 
>interrogation of Harry, the Shack (oh, YES! >The Shack!) Not to mention 
>what's coming up in GoF!  I >don't know, but having a bit of acting blood 
>in me, if >I was Rickman, I would be pretty durn pleased
>with playing the role of Snape especially in future >movies.

Then Gina Responded:

>Also, I thought Alan liked being able to do more acting >on the side 
>BECAUSE the character of Snape wasn't all >consuming.  This is really 
>starting to sound like a >false rumor.  Keeping my fingers crossed!

Fingers AND toes, Gina!  Putting more thought into it, if Rickman *really* 
wanted out, this would be a good excuse...he hasn't signed any contracts has 
he?

What I would really dig on seeing is Snape:the Motion Picture :)>

-Gail B.

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From strijkg at xs4all.nl  Sat Oct  5 08:20:13 2002
From: strijkg at xs4all.nl (Riet Strijker)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:20:13 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd))
Subject: Fw:  Rumor = FRAUD ( was: Alan possibly not playing Snape in HP3!!
Message-ID: <3D9EA0BD.000001.45815@xbwesrtn>

>From another group I forward  this message:                    Riet
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: thealanrickmanexperience at yahoogroups.com
Date: zaterdag 05 oktober 2002 09:40:09
To: thealanrickmanexperience at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [thealanrickmanexperience] Rumor = FRAUD ( was: Alan possibly not
playing Snape in HP3!!
 
The same site that posted the rumor that Alan might not play Snape, 
just shot the rumor down (note they'll try and make your heart skip a 
beat here...until you read the gag-line, but read on):

---------------------------------------

Snapemaniac-TonyaFacer: Rickman's Snape Replacement Named!
October 4 , 2002 

As I mentioned a few blogs down (read that first), there was a rumor 
going around that Alan Rickman may be replaced as Severus Snape for 
the next Harry Potter installment. Well, I am here to confirm that he 
has indeed been replaced, and the role of the evil Potions professor 
has gone to none other than PGA champ Tiger Woods! 

Alright already, I know this is a bogus scoop. But it got your 
attention, didn't it? Actually, I'm just writing to say that all 
indications are that some dipwad felchflecker sent in the "Rickman is 
Out" scoop as an attempt to discredit yours truly and the remarkably 
popular site you are now visiting. (I mean this site, not the 
Japanese school girl one you have in the other window.) As if!

Heh. The AICN guys not only ban all my scoops (pity the poor 
TalkBackers who have to live only with "Walkabouter's" phony Harry 
Potter review, and don't get storyboards like you faithful minions!), 
but now it seems they're sending in fake stuff. Well, I say bring it 
on, Harry et al. Nothing will stop me from shining the bright beacon 
of Truth into the glowing light of Justice, delicately cast upon the 
porcelain face of Liberty, as I peer up the skirt of Freedom! 
(Nothing, unless I get bored and decide to do something else, like 
build wooden clocks or take up macrame.)

Anyway, I think it's fair to say ignore the Rickman scoop. Although, 
you never can know for sure. But I agree with the Facerfans who've 
posted here, saying it doesn't sound like Rickman at all. He's 
supposedly a class act. I also believe Rickman's contract is pretty 
airtight, and that there has been no other rumblings of his 
unhappiness. However, in the event that you want to see what Tiger 
Woods would look like as Snape, click the thumb above.
---------------------------------------
We can now consider this rumor CASE CLOSED (and "ROUND FILED" - 
meaning it's in the trash can).

BM





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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sat Oct  5 22:35:13 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:35:13 +0100
Subject: Jason Carter etc.,
References: <an2ls8+5o7l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <031401c26cbf$79063b00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Firstly, after almost two weeks holiday in NYC, it is nice to see that Corgi is, once again, doing her best for Jason Carter!  At this rate I might even write myself!

Secondly, a belated thank you for those who posted the link to the additional pictures of CoS and the later cinema information, I intend to book my ticket (preferably for one of the preview shows) ASAP!!!.  I am saving sone of the snapes on my photoshop album for later review offline.

Thirdly, I, personally, cannot wait to see Alan Rickman take centre stage and duel with Kenneth Brannagh, who a find comes alive on the cinema screen as an actor (unlike photographs if you follow my drift...).  AR looks resolutely wonderful, as always.

Felicia
glad to be back even if New York was rather wonderful!




  (Sorry for shouting, but I'm excited!)

  OK, the most excellent and helpful Zephyrus Prolixity (um, you don't 
  know him yet) has found a casting office address! This is the address 
  whose mailbox we need to COMPLETELY overwhelm.

  Casting Office
  Leavsden Studios
  PO Box 322
  Watford Hertfordshire WD25 7XJ 

  Let's go get'm!  Letters need to be cc'd to Jason's agent, so he can 
  do the overflowing-mailbag gag when he goes to pitch his client.

  All mailing addresses can be found at:
  http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/

  I now return you to your regular CoS discussion.  But only if you 
  promise to write letters </tease>. ;)

  Corgi
  @sff.net


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From srider at nc.rr.com  Sat Oct  5 22:48:30 2002
From: srider at nc.rr.com (Sheila Rider)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 18:48:30 -0400
Subject: French/Canadian Versions HPPS
Message-ID: <001d01c26cc1$53b73a00$abd33942@nc.rr.com>

Dear Friends,

There was some discussion a few months back about the lack of a French track
on the US version of the Harry Potter DVD.  I ordered the DVD from Canada so
that I could have the benefit of the French audio and subtitles.  When I
played the French track with the French subtitles (in order to verifiy a
word I may not have understood at first), I was struck by the differences in
the audio vs subtitles.  Does anyone out there know the reason for this?

I had previously watched the trailers on the harrypotter.fr site, so I
realize that there are both "French French" and "Qubecois French" dubbed
versions.  Is there perhaps only one French subtitle track?

If there is anyone on the list who might be knowlegeable of the
dubbing/subtitle industry?  I wouldn't mind having a discussion about this.

Thanks,

Reine




From divaclv at aol.com  Sun Oct  6 00:04:45 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 00:04:45 -0000
Subject: Fw:  Rumor = FRAUD ( was: Alan possibly not playing Snape in HP3!!
In-Reply-To: <3D9EA0BD.000001.45815@xbwesrtn>
Message-ID: <annumt+4g11@eGroups.com>

I should have realized AR was too much of a professional to worry 
about his amount of screen time...thanks for the forward!

~Christi




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct  6 02:21:19 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:21:19 -0500
Subject: Movie calendar and Sticker book
Message-ID: <00ca01c26cdf$11fe9900$129ccdd1@istu757>

Well, as a big New York Yankees fan, I am thoroughly depressed right now, so you'll have to bear with me as I ramble a bit about my purchases today.  B.Dalton had in ALL the CoS coloring/art books, I bought the Sticker book.  Really good sketches, and great stickers.  

They also had in the full size monthly calendar.  I will now bore you to tears with the details of each month. :)  Like I said, I'm trying to get my mind off my depression!

January--"Stop! Stop!"Harry and Ron in the flying car about to crash.  
February--"Gryffindor vs. Slytherin" Harry and Malfoy staring each other down.
March--"Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry"  The trio in front of Hogwarts.
April--"Harry zigs, zags, loops and rolls trying to shake the Bludger" As the caption says, Harry 
    is looking back at the Bludger and leaning to the side to dodge it.
May--"Rictusempra!" Harry dueling, with a smaller picture of both Harry and Malfoy at the duel.
June--"Fawkes"  Yep, that pretty much describes it.  It's Fawkes all right.  The only month 
    without a picture of Harry, BTW.
July--"Properly brewed, the Polyjuice Potion allows the drinker to transform himself temporarily 
    into the physical form of another..."  Hermione brewing the potion and Harry and Ron drinking 
    it.
August--"My name is Harry Potter.  Hello, Harry Potter.  My name is Tom Riddle."  Harry with 
    quill and diary, also Harry with eyes wide as the diary begins to write back.  I would like to 
    note that as August is my birthday month, it is interesting that once again we have Harry with a 
    book.  This year's August picture had Harry at the library.  Hmm.
September--"OK, Ron, now don't panic."  Harry and Ron in the forest, with spider approaching 
    from behind.
October--"Something tells me we're going to Regret this."  Cute Harry with smaller pictures of 
    Hermione with a book and Ron with broken wand.  Reminds me of the poster with the same 
    caption, but the pictures are different.
November--"The serpent rises and fangs bared...strikes...Harry drives the sword upward."  Best 
    picture so far of the Basilisk.  Still you only see part of his head, but boy, those are some     
    serious fangs!  Harry driving sword, obviously.
December--"The Christmas Feast.  The Hall glimmers grandly as snowflakes tumble from the 
    ceiling."  Harry and Ron with a Christmas tree in the background, and Hermione at the table 
    seated across from Percy and Fred or George.

Now, as for the stickers.  Stupid me didn't even know there were stickers. :)  They're gorgeous!  Shiny and beautiful!  I do love stickers.

Richelle

*************************************************************
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
*************************************************************


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From kesa101 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  6 05:31:49 2002
From: kesa101 at yahoo.com (kesa101)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 05:31:49 -0000
Subject: Movie calendar and Sticker book
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c26cdf$11fe9900$129ccdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <anohs6+tc4r@eGroups.com>

Thanks for the report!!!  I have mine on "pre-order" from Amazon - 
but I don't know if I can wait that long!!!  I'll have to go check 
out Barnes/Noble or Borders tomorrow.  *zombie eyed* MUST GET 
CALENDAR MUST GET STICKERS*  

:)

c



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> Well, as a big New York Yankees fan, I am thoroughly depressed 
right now, so you'll have to bear with me as I ramble a bit about my 
purchases today.  B.Dalton had in ALL the CoS coloring/art books, I 
bought the Sticker book.  Really good sketches, and great stickers.  
> 
> They also had in the full size monthly calendar.  I will now bore 
you to tears with the details of each month. :)  Like I said, I'm 
trying to get my mind off my depression!
> 
> January--"Stop! Stop!"Harry and Ron in the flying car about to 
crash.  
> February--"Gryffindor vs. Slytherin" Harry and Malfoy staring each 
other down.
> March--"Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry"  The trio in 
front of Hogwarts.
> April--"Harry zigs, zags, loops and rolls trying to shake the 
Bludger" As the caption says, Harry 
>     is looking back at the Bludger and leaning to the side to 
dodge it.
> May--"Rictusempra!" Harry dueling, with a smaller picture of both 
Harry and Malfoy at the duel.
> June--"Fawkes"  Yep, that pretty much describes it.  It's Fawkes 
all right.  The only month 
>     without a picture of Harry, BTW.
> July--"Properly brewed, the Polyjuice Potion allows the drinker to 
transform himself temporarily 
>     into the physical form of another..."  Hermione brewing the 
potion and Harry and Ron drinking 
>     it.
> August--"My name is Harry Potter.  Hello, Harry Potter.  My name 
is Tom Riddle."  Harry with 
>     quill and diary, also Harry with eyes wide as the diary begins 
to write back.  I would like to 
>     note that as August is my birthday month, it is interesting 
that once again we have Harry with a 
>     book.  This year's August picture had Harry at the library.  
Hmm.
> September--"OK, Ron, now don't panic."  Harry and Ron in the 
forest, with spider approaching 
>     from behind.
> October--"Something tells me we're going to Regret this."  Cute 
Harry with smaller pictures of 
>     Hermione with a book and Ron with broken wand.  Reminds me of 
the poster with the same 
>     caption, but the pictures are different.
> November--"The serpent rises and fangs bared...strikes...Harry 
drives the sword upward."  Best 
>     picture so far of the Basilisk.  Still you only see part of 
his head, but boy, those are some     
>     serious fangs!  Harry driving sword, obviously.
> December--"The Christmas Feast.  The Hall glimmers grandly as 
snowflakes tumble from the 
>     ceiling."  Harry and Ron with a Christmas tree in the 
background, and Hermione at the table 
>     seated across from Percy and Fred or George.
> 
> Now, as for the stickers.  Stupid me didn't even know there were 
stickers. :)  They're gorgeous!  Shiny and beautiful!  I do love 
stickers.
> 
> Richelle
> 
> *************************************************************
> "May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go 
out."
> ---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
> *************************************************************
> 
> 
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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  6 14:10:14 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 14:10:14 -0000
Subject: French/Canadian Versions HPPS
In-Reply-To: <001d01c26cc1$53b73a00$abd33942@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <anpg87+qa7m@eGroups.com>

"Sheila Rider" wrote:

> I had previously watched the trailers on the harrypotter.fr site, 
> so I realize that there are both "French French" and "Qu?becois 
> French" dubbed versions.  Is there perhaps only one French subtitle 
> track?
> 
> If there is anyone on the list who might be knowlegeable of the
> dubbing/subtitle industry?  I wouldn't mind having a discussion 
> about this.

I have a little knowledge and experience of the subtitling/dubbing 
world, and what's more, in France. :-) 

I expect that you're probably right. As I understand it (never having 
been to Canada but having lived in France for a huge portion of my 
life), the main differences between Hexagonal and Qu?becois French 
are in the spoken rather than written language, and that vocabulary 
differences are largely one-way (ie Canadians understand more 
Hegaxonal French than vice-versa. Certainly having seen some French 
Canadian TV news broadcasts in the past, I was left scratching my 
head at some points). 

I would therefore assume that a single set of French-language 
subtitles was produced for both markets, but when it came to dubbing, 
each market prepared its own. I assume that the Canadian dubbing 
features Canadian accents?

In any case, dubbing and subtitling are very different skills and 
have different needs. Dubbing requires the dialogue to fit the 
intervals of speech as closely as possible (e.g. if a character 
speaks for exactly 10.3 seconds, the dubbed translation needs to last 
exactly 10.3 seconds), although attempting to match mouth movements 
has long ceased to be priority. Subtitles need to fit on the screen 
and avoid as much as possible the use of long words, especially in 
kids' films (I really must check out Mary Poppins sometime and see 
how they manage the subs for Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious). The 
dialogue also needs to be represented in short bursts. The cadence of 
speech makes it extremely difficult to keep up subtitles, whereas for 
dubbing, the cues are there on screen. 

As a result, the translations and scripts for subtitles and dubbed 
versions are normally produced entirely separately from each other, 
by different translators with different sets of skills. I also know 
of examples where the dubbed version has relied on the movie's script 
whereas the subtitles have been based on a transcipt of what's on 
screen (as we all probably know, minor variations from the script are 
always cropping into the finished product).  

Sometimes, both versions will work from the same translation, but the 
penultimate step in production, known as "spotting" is always done by 
a third party. This is required partially to check the translation, 
but its main purpose is to check for technical glitches (ie to ensure 
that the spoken text lasts as long as the dialogue on screen for 
dubbed versions, or to ensure that subtitles can realistically keep 
up with the action). The spotter indicates precise (to the 100th 
second) timings in the dubbed or subtitled script, so that the 
technicians know what goes where. 

The technician who adds the subtitles to the negative in all 
likelihood has no understanding at all of the film's original spoken 
language (though this unlikely in Canada between English and French 
in whatever direction) and thus has *only* the spotter's timings to 
go by. I've witnessed some funny moments where the spotter or the 
technician have got things wrong, subtitling whole conversations with 
the subtitles seemingly inverting who says what! 

With dubbing, the actors in the sound studio watch the film as they 
record their lines, so they have the chance (or indeed, the need!) to 
change things or bring in final corrections. As a result, major 
changes can possibly enter the recording even at that stage.

It's therefore extremely common for dubbed and subtitled versions of 
films to have dramatically different texts, and this should not be a 
surprise. 

I'm in the UK and the UK DVD has French subtitles but no French 
soundtrack (Warners have cottoned on to European sub-regions, and the 
UK version includes only an Arabic dubbed version!), so I can't 
witness the changes you mention for myself. However, I'm curious what 
differences you've found. If you want to point out some of the 
glaring subtitle differences, I'll see what my subtitles say, so we 
should be able to extablish whether the European and Canadian 
versions used the same ones...







From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct  6 16:28:20 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:28:20 +0100
Subject: HP Article Times, 9 Oct, London
References: <an1102+re2h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008201c26d55$6225fe20$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

For those in the United Kingdom or with access to yesterday's (9 October 2002) Times Magazine issue, there was an article on CoS with some pictures I (personally...) had not seen.

Felicia

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct  6 18:03:31 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:03:31 -0000
Subject: HP Article Times -  Apology
In-Reply-To: <008201c26d55$6225fe20$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <anpttj+5ci1@eGroups.com>

Really, really, sorry...........

I misquoted the date for the Times Magazine article concerning 
Chamber of Secrets.  It is, in fact, Saturday 5th October (i.e. 
yesterday on GMT time....)

I apologise for being so remiss, and put it down to acute HP 
deprivation which is about to be remedied by booking my CoS ticket 
for 8th November and re-reading the American version of Azkaban.

Felicia
who will write her letter in support of Jason Carter as 
penance.........




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct  6 21:30:44 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:30:44 +0100
Subject: Jason Carter vs. Alan Rickman (not a hairy chest debate!)
References: <an2ls8+5o7l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <025901c26d7f$a1092340$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Full of admiration as I am for the sheer perseverance, and wild enthusiasm, of Corgi for Jason Carter and his *future*  role on PoA, of which I am reading in the US version, at long last........ I have, finally, come down to Planet Earth from Planet Jetlag and want to know who **Zephyrus Prolixity** is.  

*sniffs, then adds thoughtfully*

On the other hand I could just tease Corgi and wax lyrical about how wonderful, outstanding, thoughtful, perceptive and funny Alan Rickman is instead (hairy chest or not) and his other excellent qualities which do/don't/may outstrip those of Jason Carter for those of us of discernment and, perhaps, those of us who are slightly older...........

Felicia

preparing to duck the stream of Snape-like vituperative and defensive exclamations she feels sure head her way from Plant Corgi *g*

  (Sorry for shouting, but I'm excited!)

  OK, the most excellent and helpful Zephyrus Prolixity (um, you don't 
  know him yet) has found a casting office address! This is the address 
  whose mailbox we need to COMPLETELY overwhelm.

  Casting Office
  Leavsden Studios
  PO Box 322
  Watford Hertfordshire WD25 7XJ 

  Let's go get'm!  Letters need to be cc'd to Jason's agent, so he can 
  do the overflowing-mailbag gag when he goes to pitch his client.

  All mailing addresses can be found at:
  http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/

  I now return you to your regular CoS discussion.  But only if you 
  promise to write letters </tease>. ;)

  Corgi
  @sff.net



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From olivia at serpensortia.com  Sun Oct  6 22:24:37 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (Olivia)
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:24:37 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Jason Carter vs. Alan Rickman (not a hairy chest debate!)
In-Reply-To: <025901c26d7f$a1092340$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <LLEJKIBAOEEEKDDKCIDHAEDJCCAA.olivia@serpensortia.com>

Felicia said:
"On the other hand I could just tease Corgi and wax lyrical about how
wonderful, outstanding, thoughtful, perceptive and funny Alan Rickman is
instead (hairy chest or not) and his other excellent qualities which
do/don't/may outstrip those of Jason Carter for those of us of discernment
and, perhaps, those of us who are slightly older..........."

Hell, I'm going on 20 and I've been a AR fan for about 3 years or so now.
He's brilliantly talented and That Voice. :)

The Powers That Be have done a wonderful job casting so far. The Trio,
Felton as Malfoy, Rickman as Snape, Smith as McGonagall. And Oliver Wood
will probably return the books based solely on the buzz around cutie Sean
Biggerstaff (I can't be the only one who finds his last name funny.). I'm
sure they'll find the perfect Sirius Black, whether it be Corgi's Jason
Carter or whomever.:) I'm not worried about their casting abilities.

Olivia




From akirabou at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  7 14:48:18 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:48:18 -0000
Subject: Prisoner of Azkaban - casting - letter campaign
In-Reply-To: <anilv3+a3op@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ans6ri+nur1@eGroups.com>

Corgi wrote:

> I thought it might be helpful to repost the mailing addresses for the 
> PoA casting letter campaign.

Thank you! I don't watch Babylon 5 myself, but my dad does.. and
awhile ago he commented that Jason Carter would make a great Sirius. I
had no idea who he was talking about, and when I saw him mentioned on
here I decided to look him up.. and you (and my dad, hehe) are right!
Also, he isn't too well known (like Hugh Grant - though I really love
that they cast Kenneth Branagh for Lockhart), so it's perfect. I'll
definatly be sending some letters out. :)

~ Kara




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  7 22:20:00 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:20:00 -0000
Subject: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
In-Reply-To: <008201c26d55$6225fe20$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ant1ag+9j6f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> For those in the United Kingdom or with access to yesterday's (9 
October 2002) Times Magazine issue, there was an article on CoS with 
some pictures I (personally...) had not seen.

I have made the article (in text form, not as scanned graphics!) and 
all the photos available here: 

http://plum.cream.org/HP/times/index.htm

The article was actually quite interesting...






From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  8 01:25:07 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:25:07 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
Message-ID: <F2611tF0LuIbK9qk3GR00002f95@hotmail.com>



GulPlum Wrote:

> > For those in the United Kingdom or with access to yesterday's (9
>October 2002) Times Magazine issue, there was an article on CoS with
>some pictures I (personally...) had not seen.
>
>I have made the article (in text form, not as scanned graphics!) and
>all the photos available here:
>
>http://plum.cream.org/HP/times/index.htm
>
>The article was actually quite interesting...



Wow!  Thanks a lot!  It was a really cool article...and at the end of the 
article, where you can click on "More Potter Stuff"...there are even more 
photographs...you can even see what the Mandrake looks like when pulled from 
the dirt.

Speaking of photographs...I got my copies of CoS Poster and Postcard books.  
Neat-o!  Now I can sit down and actually take my time and "study" the 
details.  Whoever the set designer is, my hat's off to him/her/them.  
Hogwarts looks magnificent.  And who does the props for this movies?  One of 
the little details I just love is: in the poster where you see Harry, Ron 
and the rest sitting in DADA  class, looking at Lockhart, you can see, on 
their desks, Lockhart's books...they're boxed sets!  Brilliant!  I really 
dig on that sort of thing.

-Gail B.






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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct  8 01:57:22 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:57:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
References: <F2611tF0LuIbK9qk3GR00002f95@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017301c26e6e$0b7b8ee0$82a2cdd1@istu757>


----- Original Message -----
From: Gail Bohacek <gandharvika at hotmail.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London


>
>
> GulPlum Wrote:

> >I have made the article (in text form, not as scanned graphics!) and
> >all the photos available here:
> >
> >http://plum.cream.org/HP/times/index.htm

That was great!  Thanks!


Gail B writes:

> Hogwarts looks magnificent.  And who does the props for this movies?  One
of
> the little details I just love is: in the poster where you see Harry, Ron
> and the rest sitting in DADA  class, looking at Lockhart, you can see, on
> their desks, Lockhart's books...they're boxed sets!  Brilliant!  I really
> dig on that sort of thing.

Do you have the CoS sticker book?  It has a picture (sticker) of one of
Lockhart's books (Guide to Household Pests) with his picture on it, really
cute, very well done.  Hope it's someplace in the movie, would be a waste if
not!

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  8 02:11:10 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:11:10 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
Message-ID: <F1104yUdJyTI0HwCqvu00011a8f@hotmail.com>

Hi Richelle!

You Asked:

>Do you have the CoS sticker book?  It has a picture (sticker) of one of
>Lockhart's books (Guide to Household Pests) with his picture on it, really
>cute, very well done.  Hope it's someplace in the movie, would be a waste 
>if
>not!


Didn't have enough money at the time or else I would have picked the sticker 
book up as well as the calendar!

You know, if I was working on the Harry Potter set, things would 
mysteriously "disappear" all the time :)>
I would *love* to have a boxed set of Lockhart's books!  Now THAT's a 
collector's item! I wonder if they actually had them made "from scratch" or 
did they just cover up existing books?

-Gail B. who's just dieing to someday visit one of the sets for the HP 
movies!



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From corgi at SFF.net  Tue Oct  8 04:45:43 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 04:45:43 -0000
Subject: Jason Carter etc. (lots of etc.)
In-Reply-To: <031401c26cbf$79063b00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <antntn+m6oq@eGroups.com>

--- Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> Firstly, after almost two weeks holiday in NYC, it is nice to see
> that Corgi is, once again, doing her best for Jason Carter!  At
> this rate I might even write myself!

<URGEURGEURGE>  G'wan, it'll be a mitzvah.

> ...I apologise for being so remiss, and put it down to acute HP 
> deprivation which is about to be remedied by booking my CoS ticket 
> for 8th November and re-reading the American version of Azkaban.
> 
> Felicia
> who will write her letter in support of Jason Carter as 
> penance...

I'll take them any way I can get them. ;D  But really -- Jason is NOT
a penance, Jason is a joy.  You should hear him read his poetry,
especially the funny dialect ones.

> Full of admiration as I am for the sheer perseverance, and wild
> enthusiasm, of Corgi for Jason Carter and his *future*  role on
> PoA, of which I am reading in the US version, at long last.....

<deep curtsey>

> I have, finally, come down to Planet Earth from Planet Jetlag and
> want to know who **Zephyrus Prolixity** is.  

Oh!  Come over to the Weird_Sisters Yahoo! group, and find out.  He's
the Weird_Brother (after the Warner siblings, y'see).  Or poke around
the Sugar Quill.  He hangs out in MiSQA and the 'Hurling Slugs'
threads a lot.
 
> *sniffs, then adds thoughtfully*
> 
> On the other hand I could just tease Corgi and wax lyrical about
> how wonderful, outstanding, thoughtful, perceptive and funny Alan
> Rickman is instead (hairy chest or not)

True, he's managed to make Snape nearly... <queases slightly> cuddly.
 Don't ASK me how, but he does.

But where does the chest hair come into it? <puzzled blink>

> and his other excellent qualities which do/don't/may outstrip
> those of Jason Carter for those of us of discernment and, perhaps,
> those of us who are slightly older...........

<snort>

> preparing to duck the stream of Snape-like vituperative and
> defensive exclamations she feels sure head her way from Planet
> Corgi *g*

<SNORT>

--- and then Olivia wrote:
> I'm sure they'll find the perfect Sirius Black, whether it be
> Corgi's Jason Carter or whomever.:) I'm not worried about their
> casting abilities.

I am!  There's too many fish in the sea!  And it's a -new- casting
director, with a new DIRECTOR director.  It's too easy, especially for
the 'sexy' roles (in the Hollywood sense), for somebody better suited
to be overlooked by someone w/ a bigger publicity machine, or that the
suits like better for no good reasons.

-------
In other fandoms (re: the HP ArticleTimes):

Heeheehee!  They dissed that horribly-stereotypical
poor-excuse-for-a-director Schumacher's Bat-parodies!  YAY! <vicious
dance of vengeful glee>
Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!




From stella713 at yahoo.de  Tue Oct  8 07:25:43 2002
From: stella713 at yahoo.de (stella713)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 07:25:43 -0000
Subject: HBO
Message-ID: <anu19n+acva@eGroups.com>

hello everybody,
I read somewhere (but can't remember where - old age), that HBO will
show a documentary about the filming of Chamber of Secrets.
Does anyone know if this is true and if so, could someone please post
where and when it will be shown.
As I live in Germany I might need the satellite datas too (I'm not too
clear on this point - I have a friend who will - hopefully - tape the
show for me and I think she wants to do this with her computer)
Can anyone help....
Thanks Asta




From shufan90 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  8 20:09:36 2002
From: shufan90 at yahoo.com (shufan)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:09:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HBO
In-Reply-To: <anu19n+acva@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021008200937.81762.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com>


You can check the HBO website.  It is a First Look: Chamber of Secrets. It is about fifteen minutes of scheduled time and it starts on November 1.  I found it by using the calendar and then checking the schedule.
Jennifer
 
 stella713 wrote:hello everybody,
I read somewhere (but can't remember where - old age), that HBO will
show a documentary about the filming of Chamber of Secrets.
Does anyone know if this is true and if so, could someone please post
where and when it will be shown.
As I live in Germany I might need the satellite datas too (I'm not too
clear on this point - I have a friend who will - hopefully - tape the
show for me and I think she wants to do this with her computer)
Can anyone help....
Thanks Asta


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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct  9 01:48:23 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 01:48:23 -0000
Subject: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
In-Reply-To: <ant1ag+9j6f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao01t7+9156@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
> wrote:
> > For those in the United Kingdom or with access to yesterday's (9 
> October 2002) Times Magazine issue, there was an article on CoS 
with 
> some pictures I (personally...) had not seen.
> 
> I have made the article (in text form, not as scanned graphics!) 
and 
> all the photos available here: 
> 
> http://plum.cream.org/HP/times/index.htm
> 
> The article was actually quite interesting...

I thoroughly enjoyed this article, the text was informative and the 
photos were great!  Thanks ever so much!
--Nia




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct  9 02:05:38 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:05:38 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Article Times, 5 Oct, London
References: <ao01t7+9156@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01e001c26f38$5dbfd560$63a1cdd1@istu757>

> >
> > http://plum.cream.org/HP/times/index.htm
> >
> > The article was actually quite interesting...
>
> I thoroughly enjoyed this article, the text was informative and the
> photos were great!  Thanks ever so much!
> --Nia

Okay, is it just me or did anyone else notice how TALL Ron (Rupert) is in
that Herbology picture?!  Somehow I can't conceive that Daniel had his knees
bent in every picture.  I think that makes the fourth one that shows Rupert
having passed Daniel up (by several inches).  Which is exactly as it should
be, the only height indication is that Ron is the tallest of the trio (and
he's supposed to be nearly as tall as the twins, but we can't have
everything).  That and Daniel said something about if they thought he had
grown, wait until they saw Rupert.

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From ed4u at attbi.com  Thu Oct 10 16:36:30 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (katysaddy)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:36:30 -0000
Subject: I hadnt seen these
Message-ID: <ao4aae+gtqs@eGroups.com>

Ok i hadnt seen all of these hats before and I really like the 
sorting hat and the professors hats in this group :-) Has anyone else 
seen them!!!

http://www.elopehats.com/inventory/potter.php

Oh how many more days until Christmas??? Before I get to see the 
movie??

How is the casting going for the next one anyone know???

Katy
HP addict who acts younger than her kids do when it comes to HP 
excitement!!!! LOL




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 17:49:23 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:49:23 -0000
Subject: I hadnt seen these
In-Reply-To: <ao4aae+gtqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao4ej3+hd36@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "katysaddy" <ed4u at a...> wrote:
> Ok i hadnt seen all of these hats before and I really like the 
> sorting hat and the professors hats in this group :-) Has anyone 
else 
> seen them!!!
> 
> http://www.elopehats.com/inventory/potter.php
> 
> Oh how many more days until Christmas??? Before I get to see the 
> movie??
> 
> How is the casting going for the next one anyone know???
> 
> Katy
> HP addict who acts younger than her kids do when it comes to HP 
> excitement!!!! LOL

Wow!! Cool hats!
  
I've got to go spend some time there.  Katy, I have four kids and I 
am much more excited to see the movie than they are.  I plan on 
seeing the early showing the day it opens, like I did last year, 
then I will take them back with me the next time.  I've got a 
Hermione/Gryffindor costume and I can't wait to dress up!  I even 
have a wood wand!! I'm so excited.  In fact, I was waving the wand 
around the other day (winGARdium leviOsa, you know) making my sons 
hold the objects up! *LOL*  I'm so silly at 35 yrs of age - ah! Who 
cares!  I love it!  How often do we get to have this much fun as 
grownups?

Alora ;)




From ed4u at attbi.com  Thu Oct 10 18:17:00 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:17:00 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these
References: <ao4ej3+hd36@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000501c27089$39d84360$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

Alora my 4 boys are HP and LOTR fans too but not near as much as their mommy
LOL!!! I might have to go see HP at the early show although I have 3 home
with me during the day so it will probably be too hard :-( We go to the
movies every Christmas and it is always a blast(not too crowded) Where did
you find the Hermione adult costume??? I thought about going as professor
McG and now that there is that hat I might see what I can make up--I have
one son that looks the part of HP himself and my other blonde headed boy
does a great Draco and hte little girl down the street is going at
Hermione --so me being Professor McG I thought would be great!! I wanted my
2 year old to go as Norbert LOL!!!

Katy how many more days???


----- Original Message -----
From: "alora" <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these


> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "katysaddy" <ed4u at a...> wrote:
> > Ok i hadnt seen all of these hats before and I really like the
> > sorting hat and the professors hats in this group :-) Has anyone
> else
> > seen them!!!
> >
> > http://www.elopehats.com/inventory/potter.php
> >
> > Oh how many more days until Christmas??? Before I get to see the
> > movie??
> >
> > How is the casting going for the next one anyone know???
> >
> > Katy
> > HP addict who acts younger than her kids do when it comes to HP
> > excitement!!!! LOL
>
> Wow!! Cool hats!
>
> I've got to go spend some time there.  Katy, I have four kids and I
> am much more excited to see the movie than they are.  I plan on
> seeing the early showing the day it opens, like I did last year,
> then I will take them back with me the next time.  I've got a
> Hermione/Gryffindor costume and I can't wait to dress up!  I even
> have a wood wand!! I'm so excited.  In fact, I was waving the wand
> around the other day (winGARdium leviOsa, you know) making my sons
> hold the objects up! *LOL*  I'm so silly at 35 yrs of age - ah! Who
> cares!  I love it!  How often do we get to have this much fun as
> grownups?
>
> Alora ;)
>
>
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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 16:15:04 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Gryffindor tie
Message-ID: <20021010161504.14491.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>


Hello y'all. Maybe someone out there can help me.  I am looking for a Gryffindor necktie to no avail.  Please help!  My daughter is being Hermione for Halloween, and I need a tie! Does anyone know of anyplace I can find one? 

Thank you,

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From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 17:36:07 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: I hadnt seen these & HP Symposium
In-Reply-To: <ao4aae+gtqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021010173607.2912.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com>


--- katysaddy <ed4u at attbi.com> wrote:
> Ok i hadnt seen all of these hats before and I really
> like the 
> sorting hat and the professors hats in this group :-) Has
> anyone else 
> seen them!!!>>

I saw the sorting hat before but not the others. Too bad
that place is wholesale only. I wonder where you can buy
them retail.

Has anyone hear about the HP symposium happeign next July?
Its sponsored by The Leaky Cauldron and Fictionalley (and
someone else). Anyone planning to go?

http://www.hp2003.org/

I would love to go there, but darn it, its the same weekend
as a big deal writers conference in NYC so now I have to
choose....


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From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu Oct 10 19:30:17 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:30:17 -0000
Subject: UK newspapers give a look at new COS poster
In-Reply-To: <an7r70+vkdp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao4kg9+5bal@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Regina" <itzregina at h...> wrote:
> This scan is at an Usher site:
> 
> http://www.kelwick.karoo.net/TheUsher-HushHush-HarryPotter2.htm
> 
> I wonder if the US poster will have the same look or if we will 
have 
> a different one?
> 
> Gina

Gina,

This poster was just recently featured on AOL, so I would imagine it 
will pop up here in the US soon.  I love it.. very intense!

Dar




From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 10 19:32:07 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:32:07 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadn't seen these & HP Symposium
Message-ID: <F104ZSKFiYqj8gvFPFY00008053@hotmail.com>

Barbara Asked:

>Has anyone hear about the HP symposium happening next July?
>Its sponsored by The Leaky Cauldron and Fictionalley (and
>someone else). Anyone planning to go?
>
>http://www.hp2003.org/
>
>I would love to go there, but darn it, its the same weekend
>as a big deal writers conference in NYC so now I have to
>choose....

And I Reply:

Though this may be a bit off-topic for this site (maybe we should continue 
it on HP4Grownups-OTChatter?) I just wanted to say: Oh yes...I just put in 
my registration Tuesday...sent my check in...I'll be there with bells 
on!(and robes, too!)  If I could choose for you, then I'd say go to Nimbus!  
You'll have a lot more fun there, for sure!

-Gail B. really psyched about this symposium thing as much as the movie!

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From ed4u at attbi.com  Thu Oct 10 19:31:02 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:31:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these & HP Symposium
References: <20021010173607.2912.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005701c27093$91dedb00$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

I asked the girl that posted it on another list i am on and she said all the
HP hats are 16.00 dollars! US that is the glasses only come in dozens but it
might be worth buying and selling the extras on ebay heck i really want to
go as PROF MCG :-) LOL!!!!

Katy who is acting more childish then her kidos LOL!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Sheridan" <bsher213 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these & HP Symposium


>
> --- katysaddy <ed4u at attbi.com> wrote:
> > Ok i hadnt seen all of these hats before and I really
> > like the
> > sorting hat and the professors hats in this group :-) Has
> > anyone else
> > seen them!!!>>
>
> I saw the sorting hat before but not the others. Too bad
> that place is wholesale only. I wonder where you can buy
> them retail.
>
> Has anyone hear about the HP symposium happeign next July?
> Its sponsored by The Leaky Cauldron and Fictionalley (and
> someone else). Anyone planning to go?
>
> http://www.hp2003.org/
>
> I would love to go there, but darn it, its the same weekend
> as a big deal writers conference in NYC so now I have to
> choose....
>
>
> =====
> Barbara Sheridan
>   http://www.barbarasheridan.net
>
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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 20:32:41 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:32:41 -0000
Subject: Gryffindor tie
In-Reply-To: <20021010161504.14491.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ao4o59+om46@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Kristi Smith <kristilynn5 at y...> wrote:
> 
> Hello y'all. Maybe someone out there can help me.  I am looking 
for a Gryffindor necktie to no avail.  Please help!  My daughter is 
being Hermione for Halloween, and I need a tie! Does anyone know of 
anyplace I can find one? 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kristi, who is hoping the mods won't banish me for this kind of OT 
post!


Kristi,

I got mine from Land's End online.  If you look under the Uniform 
category or the dress up accessories (for kids), it's under ties.  
Of course, it isn't called the Gryffindor tie, but it sure looks 
like one!  It's on backorder until the 14th of Oct., but they said 
it will ship then.  I hope it does because I am counting on that 
tie!  It's 16.00, though, 20.50 with shipping.  I didn't hesitate 
because on ebay the ties are going for 38.00 with 10 or even 20 
bidders!  Try looking there

Alora  :)




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 20:40:06 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:40:06 -0000
Subject: I hadnt seen these
In-Reply-To: <000501c27089$39d84360$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <ao4oj6+i5uq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Katy Melo" <ed4u at a...> wrote:
> Alora my 4 boys are HP and LOTR fans too but not near as much as 
their mommy
> LOL!!! I might have to go see HP at the early show although I have 
3 home
> with me during the day so it will probably be too hard :-( We go 
to the
> movies every Christmas and it is always a blast(not too crowded) 
Where did
> you find the Hermione adult costume??? 

Katy, I have been putting it together myself.  Actually, Richelle 
gave me the idea by telling me she was  using her college grad 
robe.  I don't have one of those, so I found one at my local thrift 
store for seven dollars.  I already have a white shirt with a 
collar, and my best friend has a v-neck grey sweater.  I bought the 
Gryffindor tie from Land's End online (kids department, accessories 
and ties) and I found a pleated Hermione skirt today at my other 
thrift store!  Talk about excited - I didn't think I would find 
that.  I paid 4 dollars for it.  So there you have it, a Gryffindor 
student uniform.  My son has the Hermione wand from the Wandmaker, 
and he's going to let me borrow it ( I bought it for him 
anyway! :P)  I'm just going to get some charcoal grey knee socks and 
wear my penny loafers and then go through my kids' school and ask 
everyone where DADA is, or Potions  *giddy giggle*  It's going to be 
so much fun!  I'm even going to get some of my books around the 
house and cover them with black paper, like book covers, and put 
magical titles on them.  I know, I'm going too far, aren't I?  :D  
But it will be book character dress up day and I want to have fun, 
too! 

Alora, who's out of her mind






From ed4u at attbi.com  Thu Oct 10 20:58:40 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:58:40 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these
References: <ao4oj6+i5uq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c2709f$cfba4fc0$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

Alora that sounds great!! I just got through emailing a friend of mine about
how long it would take her to make me a green cloak like Professor Minerva
McGonagall ...i am going to have to get the glasses and the hat of course!!!
I wonder if there is a way for us to put up our "Halloween Pixs" on our
little group?? HINT HINT anyone?? Who else is dressing for the season?? or
who else is dressing for the showing??

Katy or Professor Minerva McGonagall
;-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "alora" <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I hadnt seen these


> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Katy Melo" <ed4u at a...> wrote:
> > Alora my 4 boys are HP and LOTR fans too but not near as much as
> their mommy
> > LOL!!! I might have to go see HP at the early show although I have
> 3 home
> > with me during the day so it will probably be too hard :-( We go
> to the
> > movies every Christmas and it is always a blast(not too crowded)
> Where did
> > you find the Hermione adult costume???
>
> Katy, I have been putting it together myself.  Actually, Richelle
> gave me the idea by telling me she was  using her college grad
> robe.  I don't have one of those, so I found one at my local thrift
> store for seven dollars.  I already have a white shirt with a
> collar, and my best friend has a v-neck grey sweater.  I bought the
> Gryffindor tie from Land's End online (kids department, accessories
> and ties) and I found a pleated Hermione skirt today at my other
> thrift store!  Talk about excited - I didn't think I would find
> that.  I paid 4 dollars for it.  So there you have it, a Gryffindor
> student uniform.  My son has the Hermione wand from the Wandmaker,
> and he's going to let me borrow it ( I bought it for him
> anyway! :P)  I'm just going to get some charcoal grey knee socks and
> wear my penny loafers and then go through my kids' school and ask
> everyone where DADA is, or Potions  *giddy giggle*  It's going to be
> so much fun!  I'm even going to get some of my books around the
> house and cover them with black paper, like book covers, and put
> magical titles on them.  I know, I'm going too far, aren't I?  :D
> But it will be book character dress up day and I want to have fun,
> too!
>
> Alora, who's out of her mind
>
>
>
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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 10 21:14:59 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:14:59 -0000
Subject: i hadn't seen these & HP symposium
Message-ID: <ao4qkj+8q35@eGroups.com>

There's been some talk about the symposium, so I thought I'd give you 
all a heads-up about tonight's chat, in case anyone is interested:

Chat about fandom-centric programming 

Thursday October 10, 2002
9:00 pm - 11:00 pm 

Informal Potter: Developing Fandom Culture Programming 

(A Chat-Summit for Harry Potter Fans Who Wish to Plan Daytime Panels, 
Workshops, and Discussions at the Nimbus - 2003 Symposium)

When: Thursday, October 10, 2002 @ 9 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time

Where: The Harry Potter for Grownups Chatroom

Please forward all inquiries to selah_1977 at yahoo.com -- or simply 
show up.

We look forward to seeing you there!
 

-Jessica




From corgi at SFF.net  Thu Oct 10 22:48:58 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:48:58 -0000
Subject: How's the casting going?
In-Reply-To: <ao4aae+gtqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao504q+h72d@eGroups.com>

--- Katy wrote:
> How is the casting going for the next one anyone know???

NO! :(  The only thing I've heard is that Cuaron and Columbus are 
over in Britain working on pre.

I just keep sending my letters on blind faith.

I did, however, just get the casting office =phone number=, and may 
succumb to the temptation to call and ask when their casting deadline 
might be, see if they'll tell me if I ask nicely.

Corgi
(getting Padfoot cast means -- I'm on a mission from Dog.)
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!





From ed4u at attbi.com  Thu Oct 10 23:10:15 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:10:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: How's the casting going?
References: <ao504q+h72d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002801c270b2$314fd400$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

Corgi,

         I saw surfing through different HP sites today trying to find a
great Professor Minerva McGonagall  one and I came across one that had a pix
of someone else as a possible Sirius!!! YIKES!!!!! He didnt look the part at
all!!! Just thought I would let you know!!!

Katy off to bed for 2 hrs before I go to work LOL!!! ;-) Gonna dream about
my costume!!! LOL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Corgi" <corgi at SFF.net>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:48 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: How's the casting going?


> --- Katy wrote:
> > How is the casting going for the next one anyone know???
>
> NO! :(  The only thing I've heard is that Cuaron and Columbus are
> over in Britain working on pre.
>
> I just keep sending my letters on blind faith.
>
> I did, however, just get the casting office =phone number=, and may
> succumb to the temptation to call and ask when their casting deadline
> might be, see if they'll tell me if I ask nicely.
>
> Corgi
> (getting Padfoot cast means -- I'm on a mission from Dog.)
> http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!
>
>
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From corgi at SFF.net  Thu Oct 10 23:05:58 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:05:58 -0000
Subject: How's the casting going?
In-Reply-To: <002801c270b2$314fd400$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <ao514m+9o42@eGroups.com>

--- Katy Melo warned:
> Corgi,
> 
> I saw surfing through different HP sites today trying to find a
> great Professor Minerva McGonagall  one and I came across one
> that had a pix of someone else as a possible Sirius!!! YIKES!!!!!
> He didnt look the part at all!!! Just thought I would let you
> know!!!

<SHUDDER>  It's good to know you hold to the TRUE Sirian faith, Katy!

;)

Corgi - on a mission from Dog
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 01:20:42 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:20:42 -0000
Subject: A real contender
Message-ID: <ao591a+tihg@eGroups.com>

Ok, I'm sitting here tonight watching NBC's Must See TV, like a good
American, and it hit me...ironically when he came onto the screen and
kissed Grace....

Harry Connick Jr. must play Sirius Black.

I know, I know it goes completely against the campaign grassroots
started here, but think about it.   He is Gorgeous.  Damn Sexy.  Has
great hair.  Incredible voice (move over Rickman).  Rugged.  Can play
the dark yet huggable best friend.

Now, I know he's not British.  And probably busy with his equally
gorgeous model wife and kids.  But, he is so *my* Sirius.  The man is
wonderful.  Imagine Connick/Sirius singing infant Harry to sleep for
his Best Friend.  Sigh.

Melody









From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 11 01:47:32 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:47:32 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A real contender
References: <ao591a+tihg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c270c8$304084e0$a89dcdd1@istu757>

Melody writes:

> Ok, I'm sitting here tonight watching NBC's Must See TV, like a good
> American, and it hit me...ironically when he came onto the screen and
> kissed Grace....
>
> Harry Connick Jr. must play Sirius Black.

Oh, no.  No, no, no.  I mean, there's more to it than being British.  He's
not just American, he's from *New Orleans*!!!  (Nothing against New Orleans,
it's practically in my backyard).  Though I must agree with you, he is a bit
on the gorgeous, sexy side. :)

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From corgi at SFF.net  Fri Oct 11 03:51:16 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:51:16 -0000
Subject: A real contender
In-Reply-To: <004e01c270c8$304084e0$a89dcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ao5hrk+tqa5@eGroups.com>

--- Richelle & Melody wrote:
>> Harry Connick Jr. must play Sirius Black.
>> Imagine Connick/Sirius singing infant Harry to sleep for his
>> Best Friend. Sigh.
> Oh, no.  No, no, no.  I mean, there's more to it than being
> British.  <snip>
> Though I must agree with you, he is a bit on the gorgeous, sexy
> side. :)

<wee voice> Jason can sing.  Not like Connick, but he can sing.

He sang 'Modern Major General' during Babylon 5, he did. </wee voice>

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/
Jason Carter is to Sirius Black as Harry Connick, Jr., was to Sinatra!




From olivia at serpensortia.com  Fri Oct 11 03:52:50 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (olivia at serpensortia.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:52:50 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A real contender
References: <ao5hrk+tqa5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00cb01c270d9$aca05cc0$9ca2e3d8@agstme.adelphia.net>

Yes, but can he dance? :) I predict that when Voldemort finally falls,
Sirius will be the first to break out in a celebratory jig.

Olivia

---------------------

<wee voice> Jason can sing.  Not like Connick, but he can sing.

He sang 'Modern Major General' during Babylon 5, he did. </wee voice>

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/
Jason Carter is to Sirius Black as Harry Connick, Jr., was to Sinatra!





From corgi at SFF.net  Fri Oct 11 04:36:19 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 04:36:19 -0000
Subject: A real contender
In-Reply-To: <00cb01c270d9$aca05cc0$9ca2e3d8@agstme.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <ao5kg3+7nut@eGroups.com>

--- Olivia wrote:
> Yes, but can he dance? :) I predict that when Voldemort finally falls,
> Sirius will be the first to break out in a celebratory jig.

Wellll... <thoughtfully> he's a graduate of LAMDA, has toured 'Romeo &
Juliet' (as Romeo) and did all his own fights, except for a couple of
flying gags, when he played Marcus Cole, so... yeah, I betcha he can
dance just fine. :)

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/ - cast Jason as Sirius!

P.S.  Did I mention the poetry recently?  He writes poetry.  Not
relevant, but pretty darn cool!




From olivia at serpensortia.com  Fri Oct 11 12:48:49 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (olivia at serpensortia.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:48:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A real contender
References: <ao5kg3+7nut@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c27124$8cbf3de0$9ca2e3d8@agstme.adelphia.net>

Alright, I'm sold. As long as he's ready for the inevitable Harry Potter
Musical. :)

Olivia

Corgi said:
"Wellll... <thoughtfully> he's a graduate of LAMDA, has toured 'Romeo &
Juliet' (as Romeo) and did all his own fights, except for a couple of
flying gags, when he played Marcus Cole, so... yeah, I betcha he can
dance just fine. :)"




From vdegroote at wi.rr.com  Fri Oct 11 15:16:01 2002
From: vdegroote at wi.rr.com (Vicky D)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:16:01 -0500
Subject: HP Halloween Costumes
References: <1034343550.558.75282.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <000501c27139$1c2dbfb0$6601a8c0@FAMILY>

Ok, I think that it's been established that it is ok to discuss halloween
costume here!  here are my ideas & what I'm doing!
I, myself, am Professor Kitty Felini (my made-up character), assistant
professor of Herbology with interests in Potions ( & its professor ;~} ),
and secret cat animagi for MOM.  So, I scanned the Hogwarts crest & printed
it out on iron-on paper, ironed onto fabric 7 cut out 7 sewed on my black
college graduation robe.  Found a really funky witches hat. Wear robe with
black sweater, skirt & tights with lace up boots.  That's what I did last
year.  the only changes this year will be to wear brightly colored/gilted
scarf,and sparkly striped tights.  Oh, and this year I have glasses -my real
ones & they look pretty witchy!
Last year my daughter was Hermione (she was 6).  Bought her HP robe a
Target, fluffed up her long brown hair & she wore Gryffindor t-shirt, grey
skirt, black knee-highs & shoes and had rubber-that- looks-like-wood wand.
My then 2 year old was Crookshanks!
Unfortunately, they both have other ideas this year.  So, at tonights
Harvest Dance at my daughter's elementary school the "Diva Witch" (7 y/o)
and Snow White (3 y/o) will be accompanied by  Professor Felini (daddy will
have on a "Boo" baseball cap-fuddy dud)!
To put costumes together, my suggestions would be to go to Goodwill (or the
like) and look for graduation robes and old scarlet/maroon & gold striped
ties (I'm sure my dad had one a ong time ago, so they're out there!) and of
course you can find old mens white shirts, probably a pleated skirt.  If you
want your robe to have a collar or hood or something, it would be super easy
to sew black fabric onto it, or do like I am and find a funky scarf for a
dramatic effect!
Ok, gone on long enough & might be in trouble with mods at this point, but
it does seem there's interest in this group for ideas!

Vicky, 34 y/o HP addict-nutball, AKA Kitty Felini, Assoc. Professor of
Herbology (Secretly engaged to Professor Snape)




From ed4u at attbi.com  Fri Oct 11 15:50:21 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:50:21 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Halloween Costumes
References: <1034343550.558.75282.m12@yahoogroups.com> <000501c27139$1c2dbfb0$6601a8c0@FAMILY>
Message-ID: <000501c2713d$e7bc0d40$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

Vicky, 34 y/o HP addict-nutball, AKA Kitty Felini, Assoc. Professor of
Herbology (Secretly engaged to Professor Snape)

You can have Snape I am going to be secretly being courted by Corgis'
Sirius!! LOL!!! ;-)

I hope we dont get in trouble for talking costumes it seems extremely
interesting that HP is playing such a big roll in our Halloween ideas :-)
YEPPY!!!

Katy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky D" <vdegroote at wi.rr.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Halloween Costumes


> Ok, I think that it's been established that it is ok to discuss halloween
> costume here!  here are my ideas & what I'm doing!
> I, myself, am Professor Kitty Felini (my made-up character), assistant
> professor of Herbology with interests in Potions ( & its professor ;~} ),
> and secret cat animagi for MOM.  So, I scanned the Hogwarts crest &
printed
> it out on iron-on paper, ironed onto fabric 7 cut out 7 sewed on my black
> college graduation robe.  Found a really funky witches hat. Wear robe with
> black sweater, skirt & tights with lace up boots.  That's what I did last
> year.  the only changes this year will be to wear brightly colored/gilted
> scarf,and sparkly striped tights.  Oh, and this year I have glasses -my
real
> ones & they look pretty witchy!
> Last year my daughter was Hermione (she was 6).  Bought her HP robe a
> Target, fluffed up her long brown hair & she wore Gryffindor t-shirt, grey
> skirt, black knee-highs & shoes and had rubber-that- looks-like-wood wand.
> My then 2 year old was Crookshanks!
> Unfortunately, they both have other ideas this year.  So, at tonights
> Harvest Dance at my daughter's elementary school the "Diva Witch" (7 y/o)
> and Snow White (3 y/o) will be accompanied by  Professor Felini (daddy
will
> have on a "Boo" baseball cap-fuddy dud)!
> To put costumes together, my suggestions would be to go to Goodwill (or
the
> like) and look for graduation robes and old scarlet/maroon & gold striped
> ties (I'm sure my dad had one a ong time ago, so they're out there!) and
of
> course you can find old mens white shirts, probably a pleated skirt.  If
you
> want your robe to have a collar or hood or something, it would be super
easy
> to sew black fabric onto it, or do like I am and find a funky scarf for a
> dramatic effect!
> Ok, gone on long enough & might be in trouble with mods at this point, but
> it does seem there's interest in this group for ideas!
>
> Vicky, 34 y/o HP addict-nutball, AKA Kitty Felini, Assoc. Professor of
> Herbology (Secretly engaged to Professor Snape)
>
>
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From ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 15:44:56 2002
From: ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com (ginger_peachy130)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:44:56 -0000
Subject: new trailer screencaps
Message-ID: <ao6rlo+8sqs@eGroups.com>

Hi all, 
There was a new trailer shown on Australian TV tonight, I put some 
screencaps (not very good quality) up here, unfortunately right now 
is over it's allocated data transfer allowance, but should be back up 
soon:
http://www.geocities.com/ginfizz130/trailer1.html

I emailed the Leaky Cauldron but they don't seem to have received it 
cause there's a message up requesting pictures. (Dang, I wanted to 
see my name up on the site I visit every day!)

Alexis




From olivia at serpensortia.com  Fri Oct 11 15:50:01 2002
From: olivia at serpensortia.com (olivia at serpensortia.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:50:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Halloween Costumes
References: <1034343550.558.75282.m12@yahoogroups.com> <000501c27139$1c2dbfb0$6601a8c0@FAMILY> <000501c2713d$e7bc0d40$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <003101c2713d$dd64a6e0$9ca2e3d8@agstme.adelphia.net>

Well, since others are sharing...

I'm going as Harry. I'm not actually going anywhere, but I answer the doors
for the kiddies and it seemed like a Harry costume would be an easy
Do-It-Yourself.

You guys are lucky that you have graduation robes to wear. My high school
graduation robes were white so those are out unless I dress them up and go
as Lockhart. :)

But I do have a very long, thin black jacket that I'm wearing casual
non-classroom clothes. I found officially licenced HP glasses in a costume
shop with pre-Oculus Repearus tape on them. An stick in the backyard was
whittled into a very nice wand but I couldn't figure out how to get the
phoenix feather inside. Nor could I find an actual phoenix. Old Halloween
makeup that's been sitting in the cupboard for the past eight years will
give me a nice lightning bolt scar. (The real reason I wanted to dress as
Harry.) And my hair is naturally messy so I'm set there. Plus I was given a
stuffed Hedwig for Christmas last year that I'm going to tie on my arm. I'm
trying to figure out some kind of lever system that I can use to make her
nip my finger affectionately as she does often in the books. I'm sure I'll
look exactly like Daniel Radcliffe...if Daniel Radcliffe was a
nineteen-year-old girl one a shoestring budget, which I'm sure he truly is.

And for the grand finale, I'm attaching two stuffed dogs to my dog's collar
and he's going to be Fluffy...for about five seconds before he wrestles out
of it. But it'll be festive just the same.

I like all the ideas you guys are sending about costumes.

Olivia




From ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 11 16:04:49 2002
From: ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com (ginger_peachy130)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:04:49 -0000
Subject: new trailer screencaps
In-Reply-To: <ao6rlo+8sqs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao6sr1+f2mo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ginger_peachy130" <ginger_peachy130 at h...> \
> I emailed the Leaky Cauldron but they don't seem to have received 
it 
> cause there's a message up requesting pictures. (Dang, I wanted to 
> see my name up on the site I visit every day!)
> 
> Alexis

Oops, scratch that out. They did get my email. The Leaky Cauldron 
*rules*!

I wish i'd saved those pics on my computer, because I can't get to my 
own site at the moment...

Alexis




From siskiou at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 11 18:28:11 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:28:11 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new trailer screencaps
In-Reply-To: <ao6sr1+f2mo@eGroups.com>
References: <ao6sr1+f2mo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <170612497371.20021011112811@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Friday, October 11, 2002, 9:04:49 AM, ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com wrote:

> Oops, scratch that out. They did get my email. The Leaky Cauldron 
> *rules*!

> I wish i'd saved those pics on my computer, because I can't get to my 
> own site at the moment...

<sigh> I can't view the pics from the Leaky Cauldron, and
your site is over quota.

Maybe later tonight...

They sound so enticing! :)

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Fri Oct 11 18:42:21 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:42:21 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new trailer screencaps
References: <ao6sr1+f2mo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DA71B8D.40507@kingwoodcable.com>

I read the screen caps on the Leaky Cauldron, and then went and checked
harrypotter.com. I *think* the trailer on the site is the new trailer as capped
by Leaky Cauldron. Yay! there are some great new shots in there (like the
release of the pixies, and Lucius).

Ooooh...I'm shaking with excitement. I'm going to go check my local theater and
see if they are going to do a midnight showing on Thursday night like they did
for star wars. I can hardly wait - weeee!!!

Katze

ginger_peachy130 wrote:
 > --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "ginger_peachy130" <ginger_peachy130 at h...> \
 >
 >>I emailed the Leaky Cauldron but they don't seem to have received
 >
 > it
 >
 >>cause there's a message up requesting pictures. (Dang, I wanted to
 >>see my name up on the site I visit every day!)
 >>
 >>Alexis
 >
 >
 > Oops, scratch that out. They did get my email. The Leaky Cauldron
 > *rules*!
 >
 > I wish i'd saved those pics on my computer, because I can't get to my
 > own site at the moment...
 >
 > Alexis






From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Fri Oct 11 23:16:53 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 23:16:53 -0000
Subject: new trailer screencaps -- Comments
In-Reply-To: <ao6rlo+8sqs@eGroups.com>
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Alexis wrote:

> There was a new trailer shown on Australian TV tonight, I put some 
> screencaps (not very good quality) up here, unfortunately right 
now 
> is over it's allocated data transfer allowance, but should be back 
up 
> soon:
> http://www.geocities.com/ginfizz130/trailer1.html
> 


The screencaps are up at "The Leaky Cauldron" (I was able to access 
them without any trouble)  http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/

I LOVED them!  Now I'm dying to see that trailer.  I think it quite 
mean of WB to only show it 'down under' and not post it on the 
official website.  I especially wanted to see Snape send out the 
ring of fire at Lockhart.  The production people seem to have put 
quite an edge onto the teachers' demonstration duel.  I had heard 
somewhere that the snake Draco sends out at Harry looks a bit fake.  
Of course, it was hard to tell in these small pictures, but it did 
look quite menacing all reared up with its fangs exposed.  And I 
know that Harry and Hermione's closed-eyes hug will get its share of 
SHIP discussion in spite of Melissa's (at TLC) caution that the 
children are 'only twelve.'  I wonder if Columbus got an OK from 
Rowling--perhaps a bit of inside information, or if he was taking 
his own creative liberty with canon. I love the way he stuck to the 
first novel and didn't try to turn it inside out to make it more 
Hollywood.
Thank you, Alexis, for all the trouble you went through to share 
with us. (And I did notice your name on TLC's site!)
-- Nia




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 15:02:10 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:02:10 -0000
Subject: movie soundtrack
Message-ID: <ao9dhi+pk5m@eGroups.com>

Hello all,

I was just over at the Leaky Cauldron listening to the Chamber of 
Secrets soundtrack.  Does anyone know if we can purchase this yet?  
It's fantastic!!  Better than the first one, for sure. 

Alora




From richasi at azlance.com  Sat Oct 12 15:23:17 2002
From: richasi at azlance.com (Richasi)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:23:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] movie soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <ao9dhi+pk5m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002601c27203$4a267d60$2fd51b18@cfl.rr.com>

> Hello all,
> 
> I was just over at the Leaky Cauldron listening to the Chamber of 
> Secrets soundtrack.  Does anyone know if we can purchase this yet?  
> It's fantastic!!  Better than the first one, for sure. 

The first little part of it said you could get it at CD Now, but
it's not listed. Oh well. I really love it thus far (I've not finished
listening to it yet... but it is very nice, dark as you said,
and I've been trying to picture what might go with the music! ;) )

Richasi





From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 12 15:22:59 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:22:59 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 339
Message-ID: <F106AaTzvb5YI9IJsaJ00000a70@hotmail.com>

Dear Potterholics,

Despite being low on funds, I went out and bought the Oct. issue of Vanity 
Fair, finally.  I'm sure you've all seen the pictures since they've been 
available at the Leaky for several weeks.

Every time I see new picture from CoS I'm delighted with the attention to 
detail, so with VF in my hands I started examining the books surrounding 
Harry in the Flourish & Blotts portrait of him and Gilderoy.

Oh, how I would love to browse that shop! Here are some of the titles I 
found on the shelves. There are stacks of Gilderoy's "Magical Me" of course 
which you've all noticed, no doubt, but I also found "Magical Melodies," 
"Encyclopedia of Bat Eyes," "Which Owl," "House Elves and Appropriate 
Chores," "Hunting Wherewolves," "Magical Theory" and finally--and it tickled 
me pink when I discovered it course literature for the divination class 
Harry takes his THIRD year, i.e. in PoA (!!!!!!): "Unfogging the Future." 
(There are five or six copies of it just to the left of Harry at 
shoulder-level.

Just thought I'd share that.

Sophia

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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 12 15:35:45 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:35:45 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] movie soundtrack
Message-ID: <F223dMfVElV1JIZ4cim00016736@hotmail.com>

Alora Said:

> > I was just over at the Leaky Cauldron listening to the Chamber of
> > Secrets soundtrack.  Does anyone know if we can purchase this yet?
> > It's fantastic!!  Better than the first one, for sure.

Then Richarsi Replied:

>The first little part of it said you could get it at CD Now, but
>it's not listed. Oh well. I really love it thus far (I've not finished
>listening to it yet... but it is very nice, dark as you said,
>and I've been trying to picture what might go with the music! ;) )

And I Add:

Great stuff!  Really appropriate to listen to while reading all these posts 
here!  I could definitely tell which selection is the one that'll be playing 
when Harry's in the Chamber.

-Gail B.

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 18:09:53 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:09:53 -0000
Subject: Favorite part
Message-ID: <ao9ohh+vmb1@eGroups.com>

I was just curious about something.  What is everyone looking 
forward to seeing in the next movie?  I know I have too many to 
list, but one of my favs is the Valentine, "His eyes are as green as 
fresh pickled toad..."  hehehehe  I hope they included that in the 
movie!

What about everyone else?

Alora




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 12 19:40:34 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:40:34 -0000
Subject: Favorite part
In-Reply-To: <ao9ohh+vmb1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ao9tri+b42l@eGroups.com>

alora asked:
> I was just curious about something.  What is everyone looking
> forward to seeing in the next movie?


I am really, really wanting to see the look on the professors' faces
at the Valentine's breakfast, especially Snape's.  I love that scene
so much.  They are all so mortified.

My second is the Potter Rotter musical number by Peeves.

I have a feeling though that both are absent from the movie.  There
just is not a movie picture that has a valentine anywhere.

Melody




From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 20:04:32 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Favorite part
In-Reply-To: <ao9tri+b42l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021012200432.88287.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Melody <Malady579 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> alora asked:
> > I was just curious about something.  What is everyone
> looking
> > forward to seeing in the next movie?
> 

I'm dying to see the part after Ron & Harry wreck the car
and are peekignin at everyone assembled in the
Hall--everyone but Snape and they speculate with "Maybe
he's..." this that ect and he pops up behind  them with "Or
maybe, he's waiting to hear why you two didn't arrive on
the school train..."

And if they don't have that with Rickamn doing that exact
line I'll be so cheezed off... 


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From genevieve373 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 20:09:44 2002
From: genevieve373 at yahoo.com (genevieve373)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:09:44 -0000
Subject: Question: CS soundtrack
Message-ID: <ao9vi8+5t4k@eGroups.com>

Does anyone have the capability to transfer the the CS soundtrack 
from Real player to a Windows or Winamp media file?  I don't have 
Real, and am unable to get it loaded onto my computer (not enough 
disk space apparently).  And after reading so many good reviews of 
it, I'm quite desperate to hear it for myself.  

BTW, Amazon.com has the Soundtrack listed as being released Nov. 12.

Thank you to anyone who can help,

Genevieve




From flyeagle at the-i.net  Sat Oct 12 20:17:57 2002
From: flyeagle at the-i.net (Virginia F Garza)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:17:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Favorite part
References: <20021012200432.88287.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c2722c$760287c0$54b021d1@default>




  --- Melody <Malady579 at hotmail.com> wrote:
  > alora asked:
  > > I was just curious about something.  What is everyone
  > looking
  > > forward to seeing in the next movie?
  > 

  I'm dying to see the part after Ron & Harry wreck the car
  and are peekignin at everyone assembled in the
  Hall--everyone but Snape and they speculate with "Maybe
  he's..." this that ect and he pops up behind  them with "Or
  maybe, he's waiting to hear why you two didn't arrive on
  the school train..."

  And if they don't have that with Rickamn doing that exact
  line I'll be so cheezed off... 

  I completely agree with Barbara, That scene in the book is one of my favorites, and I can't wait to see that in the movie.  
      Also I would like to see the part after Fred, Geprge and Ron rescue Harry from the Dursely's, and Mrs. Weasley catchs them.  
      Another I am holding my breath to see is the scene where Ron recieves the howler from Mrs Weasley after they wreck the car.  
      I am also looking forward to the last couple of scenes:  I would love to see the part where after Harry rescues Ginny he and she walk into (is it McGonagall's or Dumbledore's office) and shock everyone.  
      I am also looking forward to the confrontation between Lucius and Harry.  
      Anyway, those are just some of my favorite parts in the book that I would love to see in the movie.
  Faye





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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Sat Oct 12 20:40:13 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:40:13 -0000
Subject: Favorite part
In-Reply-To: <ao9ohh+vmb1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoa1bd+6kdc@eGroups.com>

Alora wrote:
> I was just curious about something.  What is everyone looking 
> forward to seeing in the next movie?  

  I'm really looking forward to the scenes at the Burrow, especially 
the degnoming of Mrs. Weasley's garden.  I do hope they include that 
in the movie!  I think the Valentine's Day fun would be too good to 
miss, especially Harry's singing Valentine from Ginny, but I suppose 
they can't include everything.  The dueling club scenes we've been 
given a peek at are also on my most-want-to-see list as well as Ron 
burping up slugs, tee, hee, hee.
--Nia




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 12 22:48:54 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:48:54 -0000
Subject: Favorite part
In-Reply-To: <aoa1bd+6kdc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoa8sm+9phm@eGroups.com>

"Nia" wrote:
> I think the Valentine's Day fun would be too good to miss, 
> especially Harry's singing Valentine from Ginny, but I suppose 
> they can't include everything.  

I would expect some semblance of the Valentine's Day stuff to make an 
appearance, if only because it's so memorable from the book, apart 
from which, it's an clear indication of Ginny's feelings for Harry 
(even if there is incessant speculation in HP fandom about whether or 
not she sent it, but that's a different matter!). 

However, considering young Master Radcliffe's eyes are clearly not 
green and his hair is clearly not pitch black, if they *do* include a 
singing Valentine, they'll have to change the words completely. All 
indications to date are that his eye and hair colour haven't been 
modified...

Many elements of CoS make it my least favourite of the books, but the 
main thing I'm not so much anxious to see, as much as witness in a 
cinema with people who've not read the book, is watching the reaction 
to the penny dropping when Tom does his bit with the anagram of his 
name. My sister, her hubby and their two sons (6 and 3) are all fans 
of the first movie although none of them has read beyond the first 
book. (They've decided as a family that they're going to see each of 
the movies as they come out, and *then* read the relevant book!)

The 3 year-old was fine watching the first movie but was a bit 
freaked by Voldy's appearance. He wants to see the second movie in 
the cinema but has needed reassurance that Voldemort doesn't make an 
appearance. I haven't quite known how to put it to my sister without 
spoiling the game for her, yet without lying. :-) 

Incidentally, the six year-old was fine with absolutely everything in 
the first movie except for Filtch, who spooked him quite severely 
(though strangely NOT Mrs Norris's red eyes!). I've already told him 
to be prepared for much more of him...





From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 12 23:15:07 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:15:07 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Favorite part
Message-ID: <F12NT1J7sZYOm02A4Tj00016de4@hotmail.com>

Alora Asked:

>I was just curious about something.  What is everyone looking
>forward to seeing in the next movie?

Oh, that's easy...

My favorite part in CoS has always been the dueling scene...I already had 
the whole scene enacted in my mind a long time ago.  I am really looking 
forward to seeing Snape blast Lockhart away on the silver screen! In a blur 
of lilac!  I'm going to be the one in the dark movie theatre shouting, "Get 
'em Snape!"

But now I see there are pictures with flames coming out of Snape's wand...I 
hope they haven't changed things around...

-Gail B.



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From amanetsang at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 13 02:03:39 2002
From: amanetsang at yahoo.com (Tamara N. Tsang)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:03:39 -0000
Subject: Cast Interviews in Disney Adventures
Message-ID: <aoak9r+lgjh@eGroups.com>

{Tried to email this to the Leaky Cauldron, but my mail came 
back)

My sister bought me the November issue of Disney Adventures  
today which contained interviews (p. 42-47) with Dan, Emma, 
Rupert, James & Oliver Phelps, (actress playing Ginny
Weasley), Tom Felton, & Harry __ (actor playingDudley).  In the 
midst of it is an ad for the Lego sets for HP Chamber of Secrets 
(good advertisingplacement).  If someone would contact me, I'll 
be happy to scan the pages- if it's appropriate (copyright and all 
that).
---Tamara Tsang




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Sun Oct 13 14:01:17 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:01:17 -0500
Subject: soundtrack
Message-ID: <3DA97CAD.2060900@kingwoodcable.com>

I'm listening to the new sountrack right now, and there's a part about 4 minutes 
into the music where it sounds an awful lot like Jurrasic Park to me. Did anyone 
else think this? The music isn't identical, but the way it moves and the notes 
that are used remind me so much of JP.

Take care
Katze





From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 13 16:29:50 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:29:50 -0000
Subject: soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <3DA97CAD.2060900@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com>

Katze asked:
>>I'm listening to the new soundtrack right now, and there's a part
about 4 minutes into the music where it sounds an awful lot like
Jurrasic Park to me. Did anyone else think this? The music isn't
identical, but the way it moves and the notes that are used remind me
so much of JP.<<


Well much of John Williams music has phrasing that is similar to the
other movies he does.  It is partly because he loves the brass section
and partly because he works on so many soundtracks at one time.  In
the Hook soundtrack this is especially true.  It is eirry.  It almost
goes beyond noticing a composing style and into the realm of
unconscious tune mixing.

James Horner also tends to sound similar.  He wrote Titanic and
Braveheart and both have that rustic homemade lute sound in
practically the same key.

Often times, other musical ventures do influence Williams composing.
In Star Wars, Williams listened to The Planets by Holst to capture the
grandeur and soaring feel of the universe.  If you listen to Mars, you
can hear the direct, strong brass of the Imperial March.

With as many soundtracks as Williams does it actually is amazing he
doesn't repeat himself more often.

Melody




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 13 19:02:30 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:02:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cast Interviews in Disney Adventures
References: <aoak9r+lgjh@eGroups.com>
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> My sister bought me the November issue of Disney Adventures
> today which contained interviews (p. 42-47) with Dan, Emma,
> Rupert, James & Oliver Phelps, (actress playing Ginny
> Weasley), Tom Felton, & Harry __ (actor playingDudley).  In the
> midst of it is an ad for the Lego sets for HP Chamber of Secrets
> (good advertisingplacement).  If someone would contact me, I'll
> be happy to scan the pages- if it's appropriate (copyright and all
> that).
> ---Tamara Tsang

I bought this magazine last Thursday at Wal-Mart and read it while I was
waiting on my car to have tires rotated, etc.  I did find myself giggling
aloud a few times!  They are so cute.  Especially Daniel, Rupert, James and
Oliver Phelps.  Rupert is so blatantly honest. He said he'd be in
Hufflepuff--not brave enough for Gryffindor, not mean enough for Slytherin,
and not clever enough for Ravenclaw.  His words, not mine. :)

Richelle

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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Sun Oct 13 19:24:57 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:24:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: soundtrack
References: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DA9C889.9020607@kingwoodcable.com>



Melody wrote:
> Well much of John Williams music has phrasing that is similar to the
> other movies he does.  It is partly because he loves the brass section
> and partly because he works on so many soundtracks at one time.  In
> the Hook soundtrack this is especially true.  It is eirry.  It almost
> goes beyond noticing a composing style and into the realm of
> unconscious tune mixing.

> James Horner also tends to sound similar.  He wrote Titanic and
> Braveheart and both have that rustic homemade lute sound in
> practically the same key.

I'm a huge James Horner fan and have noticed that he loves the bagpipes and 
certain drum rhythms. Deep Impact also has some of his trademark phrases in it 
as well. I've recently bought Star Trek: Wrath of Kahn which was composed by 
Horner, but I have sat down and compared it just yet.

> Often times, other musical ventures do influence Williams composing.
> In Star Wars, Williams listened to The Planets by Holst to capture the
> grandeur and soaring feel of the universe.  If you listen to Mars, you
> can hear the direct, strong brass of the Imperial March.

The New Star Wars Soundtrack is beautiful. The love theme is wonderful - knowing 
the background for the story - it pulls in all the motional surrounding their 
"forbidden love" - so soft and sad. There another part where Williams overlays 
some trumpets over the Imperial theme. Absolutely wonderful! If you saw the 
movie, you'll find this part playing when at the end of the movie when Palpatine 
is looking over his new army. I've made this part of the soundtrack my opening 
theme music on my NT box.

> With as many soundtracks as Williams does it actually is amazing he
> doesn't repeat himself more often.

I honestly don't mind a little bit of a repeat - I think you'll find many 
musicians do this - much like artist will incorporate certain techniques. It 
makes it their's and identifies it to the audience as their's. I love going to 
movies and trying to find out who;s music it is. Over time I've found that 
particular musicians and directors work together. Spielberg and Lucas both use 
Williams. Horner seems to go everywhere. But Tim Burton almost always uses Danny 
Elfman (I love his music!).

Back on track ...
I think Hedwig's theme is one of my top themes. there's also the where the kids 
first see Hogwarts in the first movie. That's my favorite bit of the entire 
soundtrack for PS/SS (track 6, about 2:15 mintues into the track). I haven't had 
a chance to listen to the entire Chamber of Secrets soundtrack yet - did 
Williams put that bit in there as well?

Take care!
Katze





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct 13 20:09:37 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:09:37 +0100
Subject: Favorite part - Got to be Snape!
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Message-ID: <003c01c272f4$74eef800$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

>
> I'm going to be the one in the dark movie theatre shouting, "Get
> 'em Snape!"

Oh what a relief!! I'm not alone then :-)))  I can't wait to see Snape knock
the stuffing out of Lockhart in the duelling scene.  I hope that part of it
is unchanged, additionally I want to see the bit in the staff room when
Gilderoy finally has to face the creature and the staff are all rubbing
their hands with glee and Snape says, your time has come...........

snip....

> But now I see there are pictures with flames coming out of Snape's
wand...I
> hope they haven't changed things around...
>

I missed that bit!!! (holidays, mental lapses and all) Point me in the
direction of the flames.....

I am a bit worried about the Valentine's bit though, as I haven't seen
anything like a snippet, trailer-ette, picture or whatever about it being in
the film.   Not that I will miss it that much it is just rather a giggle!!

Felicia





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct 13 20:14:32 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:14:32 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: soundtrack
References: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c272f5$24cd8d40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I heard a rumour that someone else is writing part of the music as John
Williams did dnot ahve the time.  Can anyone confirm that this is correct or
not?

Felicia


> Katze asked:
> >>I'm listening to the new soundtrack right now, and there's a part
> about 4 minutes into the music where it sounds an awful lot like
> Jurrasic Park to me. Did anyone else think this? The music isn't
> identical, but the way it moves and the notes that are used remind me
> so much of JP.<<
>
>
> Well much of John Williams music has phrasing that is similar to the
> other movies he does.  It is partly because he loves the brass section
> and partly because he works on so many soundtracks at one time.  In
> the Hook soundtrack this is especially true.  It is eirry.  It almost
> goes beyond noticing a composing style and into the realm of
> unconscious tune mixing.
>
> James Horner also tends to sound similar.  He wrote Titanic and
> Braveheart and both have that rustic homemade lute sound in
> practically the same key.
>
> Often times, other musical ventures do influence Williams composing.
> In Star Wars, Williams listened to The Planets by Holst to capture the
> grandeur and soaring feel of the universe.  If you listen to Mars, you
> can hear the direct, strong brass of the Imperial March.
>
> With as many soundtracks as Williams does it actually is amazing he
> doesn't repeat himself more often.
>
> Melody
>
>
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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Sun Oct 13 20:27:28 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:27:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: soundtrack
References: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com> <007a01c272f5$24cd8d40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
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Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> I heard a rumour that someone else is writing part of the music as John
> Williams did dnot ahve the time.  Can anyone confirm that this is correct or
> not?
> 
> Felicia

I heard that John Williams composed the new pieces, but someone arranged the 
music for the movie.

He's been awfully busy (from what I gather from his fans) - Star Wars, and I 
think he also did Minority Report, the opening music for the Utah Olympics and 
some other projects.

Katze





From editor at texas.net  Sun Oct 13 20:32:28 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:32:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: soundtrack
References: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006701c272f7$a69a16c0$a17c63d1@texas.net>

> Well much of John Williams music has phrasing that is similar to the
> other movies he does.  It is partly because he loves the brass section
> and partly because he works on so many soundtracks at one time.  In
> the Hook soundtrack this is especially true.  It is eirry.  It almost
> goes beyond noticing a composing style and into the realm of
> unconscious tune mixing.

I said this once, and nobody seemed to get what I meant, but for me the main
theme in the first movie always, when I'm humming it, manages to segue into
Schindler's List. The only comment I got when I pointed this out a year ago
was that Schindler's List and Harry Potter (as works) were nothing alike,
which had not been what I was saying (I'm not even sure how the responder
*got* there....anyway). Has anyone noticed this?

--Amanda




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct 13 20:56:40 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:56:40 +0100
Subject: Soundtrack
References: <aoc71u+sc65@eGroups.com> <006701c272f7$a69a16c0$a17c63d1@texas.net>
Message-ID: <00b601c272fb$07370800$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I haven't seen Shindler's List but I know what you mean Amanda, whoever
didn't recgnise the argument you proposed was either very dim, or
deliberately obtuse.

It is a unique alikeness that tanscends the films he composes for.  Certain
arrangements of instruments (as with the brass mentioned) and tonal passages
recur whatever the film composed for, it's a fingerprint I recognise him by,
that and the debt to Gustav Holst and Prokofiev.

John Williams manages to create a soundworld unique to each film still with
his recognisable style, no more so than Philosopher's Stone which is a
hugely inventive series of variations on a theme that ranges from the
harmonically lush Hedwig's Theme (a real favourite of mine) to the wildy
dangerous Chess Game.

I was astonished that it did not do better at the Oscars, I did not find the
other music as exciting (any of it..... ;-))

Felicia
A sucker for C Major chords!!!!


> > Well much of John Williams music has phrasing that is similar to the
> > other movies he does.  It is partly because he loves the brass section
> > and partly because he works on so many soundtracks at one time.  In
> > the Hook soundtrack this is especially true.  It is eirry.  It almost
> > goes beyond noticing a composing style and into the realm of
> > unconscious tune mixing.
>
> I said this once, and nobody seemed to get what I meant, but for me the
main
> theme in the first movie always, when I'm humming it, manages to segue
into
> Schindler's List. The only comment I got when I pointed this out a year
ago
> was that Schindler's List and Harry Potter (as works) were nothing alike,
> which had not been what I was saying (I'm not even sure how the responder
> *got* there....anyway). Has anyone noticed this?
>
> --Amanda





From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Sun Oct 13 23:44:10 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:44:10 -0000
Subject: CoS Soundtrack Comments
Message-ID: <aod0ga+u765@eGroups.com>

I absolutely love the CoS soundtrack!! I think its much more 
substantive than the one for the first movie, but then, PS/SS was 
more an introduction to this fantastic new world whereas CoS exposes 
more of the dark aspects.  This music has a darkness to it and a 
definite edginess.  I'm surmising that music for PoA will be that 
much darker still.

I read somewhere, I cannot recall exactly, that there was another 
composer involved who worked with John Williams' material for CoS 
and finished it off with some of his own, attempting to merge their 
two styles into something cohesive.  Has anyone else heard that?  
This music does have a very Williamsesque sound to it, though, 
doesn't it?

--Nia




From randysgirl51 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 13 23:55:43 2002
From: randysgirl51 at yahoo.com (snapefan51)
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:55:43 -0000
Subject: Favorite part - Got to be Snape!
In-Reply-To: <003c01c272f4$74eef800$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aod15v+srja@eGroups.com>

I too am relieved that we, my daughter and I, will not be the only 
ones sitting in a darkened movie theater yelling..."Go Snape!".

The husband and son will probably choose seats on the other side of 
the theater but we don't mind.  I agree that this is the portion of 
the film I am most looking forward to and I am certain I will not be 
disappointed.

This is my first post to this list and I hope I didn't break any 
rules!
snapefan51




--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
> Oh what a relief!! I'm not alone then :-)))  I can't wait to see 
Snape knock
> the stuffing out of Lockhart in the duelling scene.  I hope that 
part of it
> is unchanged, additionally I want to see the bit in the staff room 
when
> Gilderoy finally has to face the creature and the staff are all 
rubbing
> their hands with glee and Snape says, your time has come...........
> Felicia




From amanetsang at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 01:31:22 2002
From: amanetsang at yahoo.com (Tamara N. Tsang)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 01:31:22 -0000
Subject: Q about Fang
Message-ID: <aod6pa+4r31@eGroups.com>

Sorry if this question has already been answerered (I searched 
the archive, but didn't find it).  Is Fang a Neapolitan Mastiff (w/o 
docked tail)?  I didn't recognize him as an AKC breed, so I 
checked the UK Kennel Club and this breed looked the closest.
Thanks for any assistance,
Tamara




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 02:28:22 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:28:22 -0000
Subject: CoS Soundtrack Comments
In-Reply-To: <aod0ga+u765@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoda46+hfme@eGroups.com>

"Nia" wrote:

> I read somewhere, I cannot recall exactly, that there was another 
> composer involved who worked with John Williams' material for CoS 
> and finished it off with some of his own, attempting to merge their 
> two styles into something cohesive.  Has anyone else heard that?  
> This music does have a very Williamsesque sound to it, though, 
> doesn't it?

Yes, it does. I find it extremely monotonous and "smaey" (the 
hallmark of all Williams' music in my book). :-) 

Yes, there is very much another composer involved. The music is 
actually written by William Ross, based on "themes" written by John 
Williams (the stuff for PS/SS, plus four new themes). It's therefore 
unfair on Ross to say that this is Williams' music - after all, the 
vast majority of classical music is built on developing themes from 
folk music, yet it is usually the "composer" who is glorified as the 
author rather than the music's folkloric roots (although there are, 
of course, exceptions, when composers admit their sources). The fact 
that the author of the themes in this case is identifiable makes no 
difference.

Incidentally, this is not the first time this approach to film music 
composition has been used. Off the top of my head, Williams is the 
(quoted, credited) source for at least a couple of sequels scored by 
Ken Hall, and Jerry Goldsmith's score for "Supergirl" is based 
entirely on Williams' themes from "Superman".






From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 03:06:21 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:06:21 -0000
Subject: Favorite part
In-Reply-To: <aoa8sm+9phm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aodcbd+tedm@eGroups.com>

> However, considering young Master Radcliffe's eyes are clearly not 
> green and his hair is clearly not pitch black, if they *do* 
include a 
> singing Valentine, they'll have to change the words completely. 
All 
> indications to date are that his eye and hair colour haven't been 
> modified...


Aacck!  I had forgotten about the eye color.  Well, let's hope they 
change a couple of things and still leave the poem in!  I'm crossing 
my fingers ;)

Alora




From corgi at SFF.net  Mon Oct 14 04:26:27 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:26:27 -0000
Subject: Sirius casting crusade - ickle update
Message-ID: <aodh1j+nb5c@eGroups.com>

At the gentle prodding of a pair of werewolves *cough*, I have taken 
the drastic - or is it just 'desperate'? ;) - step of writing to the 
Goddess Muse herself about Jason Carter for Sirius.  Enclosed a head 
shot, too.

And on top of that, since I just got the casting office's phone 
number, maybe I'll be able to find out what kind of deadlines 
Casting might be working with (if I get a kind person on the 
phone).  The waiting is making me a little nuts....

Corgi, Impatient Dog
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/
'Enigmatic, Charismatic, Magical ...and British.  Cast Jason!'




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 14 08:46:13 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:46:13 +0000
Subject: Favourite part
Message-ID: <F2206vdGg1fDc5DYge200000a72@hotmail.com>



alora asked:
 What is everyone looking
forward to seeing in the next movie? I know I have too many to
list, but one of my favs is the Valentine, "His eyes are as green as
fresh pickled toad..."

Me:
The Valentine scene is my favourite as well, but I'm concerned about what 
they may have done to it. I LOVE the ludicrous lyrics to Harry's valentine, 
but since they decided to keep Dan's eyes their natural colour, which is 
nowhere close to green, how could they keep the line "his eyes are as 
green..etc"? Would they try to come up with a different line about Harry's 
eyes or leave it out somehow, or think up a line referring to something 
else? Pity. It's such a terrific line.

My other favourite is the duelling scene! Reportedly this scene has been 
"tweaked,"  so perhaps my fav. part has been replaced by more violent 
antics, but if not, I would just love to see Harry doing a quickstep under 
the tarantellegra spell while Malfoy writhes helpless with laughter under 
the rictusempra tickling charm.

Sophia

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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 09:02:42 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:02:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: COS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
Message-ID: <20021014090242.34906.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>


Amanda said:

<<<I said this once, and nobody seemed to get what I meant, but for me the 
main theme in the first movie always, when I'm humming it, manages to segue 
into Schindler's List. The only comment I got when I pointed this out a year 
ago was that Schindler's List and Harry Potter (as works) were nothing 
alike, which had not been what I was saying (I'm not even sure how the 
responder *got* there....anyway). Has anyone noticed this?>>>

Me:

A little tangent off of your topic, Amanda...I find myself starting to hum "Danse Macabre" (the main theme with the slightly off-key violin) whenever I hear Hedwig's theme.  Probably because they both have that lilting/floating/dancing kind of quality.  
And now, for something completely different...

Okay, I am wondering if anyone else is going through "movie anxiety".  Let me explain...

Last year, when the first movie came out, I re-read the first book a couple of times.  But I kept telling myself that everything was not going to be in the movie the same as it was in the book, so to not get too canon crazy. Yeah, like that that was gonna work.

And then I started surfing the web and finding out all I could about the movie.  HP Galleries and TLC were my sites of choice.  I sure miss HP Galleries, but Leaky Cauldron has done a superb job of keeping me up to date and having loads of movie pics.  But I digresss...        

I found out all I could about the movie and the cast, and had seen just about every picture there was on the net.  I bet I had seen about half the movie in stills on the net.  So, needless to say, I got really,  really excited for the movie to come out.  My expectations were very, very high. 

Then, I saw the movie.  Oh, yes, I *liked* it well enough.  But there were parts that I obsessed over during the rest of the movie.   Especially his *blue* eyes.  I couldn't stop thinking about that for two days.  I had read a rumor that said they were going to CGI his eyes green because Dan couldn't handle the contacts.  But no CGI was apparent in the theatres.  The inconsistancies with Dan's ever changing voice bothered me as well, again causing me to be distracted during the rest of the film.  Little things would bother me, like  "Hermione NEVER said that!"  and "Oh, they got that part mixed up", etc.  

I didn't love the movie like I expected to, and I felt let down.  But, the more I saw the movie, the more I began to appreciate it in and of itself, as it's own separate entity.  Now I can actually say I love the movie, but it took quite a few times to get to that point.   

I see a similar pattern this time.  I did re-read the book by reading it aloud to my now 6 year-old who can finally sit and listen to a story without pictures now, but that was during the summer.  I think that the amount of time between the two events will help me be not so canon crazy this time.  What triggered my "anxiety" is all the talk about the scenes that we hope are in the movie.  Now I'm getting worried...will we not see Harry get knocked down by a dwarf and receive his "Green Pickled Toad" Valentine?  What about the Deathday Party?  And what's the deal with that spinning phoenix thingy in front of Dumbledore's office (on the previews)?  Why do the previews make Ron out to be scared out of his wits while Harry does everything?  AAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

<Takes a deep, calming breath>  I'm just so afraid of being let down again.  Silly, isn't it?  Does anyone out there know what I'm talking about?

~Lilac, who will be making an appointment with a psychiatrist tomorrow because she suspects that she has OCD... :)   

 



 

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From Dar20 at aol.com  Mon Oct 14 14:32:28 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:32:28 -0000
Subject: Q about Fang
In-Reply-To: <aod6pa+4r31@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aoekhs+nfc5@eGroups.com>

Tamara, 

I believe you are right.  Check out this page:

http://www.neapolitan.org/

Dar


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Tamara N. Tsang" <amanetsang at y...> wrote:
> Sorry if this question has already been answerered (I searched 
> the archive, but didn't find it).  Is Fang a Neapolitan Mastiff 
(w/o 
> docked tail)?  I didn't recognize him as an AKC breed, so I 
> checked the UK Kennel Club and this breed looked the closest.
> Thanks for any assistance,
> Tamara




From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 15:31:48 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Gryffindor Tie
Message-ID: <20021014153148.14076.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com>


To all those who contributed to my quest for a tie, many thanks!  I finally found one at Nordstrom.  Again thank you for all your suggestions!

Kristi who is drowning in a sea of laundry.



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From amanetsang at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 19:01:51 2002
From: amanetsang at yahoo.com (Tamara N. Tsang)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:01:51 -0000
Subject: Q about Fang
In-Reply-To: <aoekhs+nfc5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aof4av+l9jv@eGroups.com>

Dar,
Thank you for the URL.  Unfortunately I have this sudden picture of a 
bunch of backyward breeders advertising "Be a part of the Harry 
Potter Universe- Get your own little Fang."  Ugh! Gorgeous dog in the 
film and I was truly curious what breed they would use for the 
character if they didn't use CGI.
---Tamara
--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Darlene" <Dar20 at a...> wrote:
> Tamara, 
> I believe you are right.  Check out this page:
> http://www.neapolitan.org/
> Dar





From corgi at SFF.net  Mon Oct 14 21:46:53 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:46:53 -0000
Subject: Report from Leavsden Studios HP3 office space
Message-ID: <aofe0d+b60c@eGroups.com>

I got up early enough to call Britain!  I called the Casting Office --
 there is a somewhat harrassed-sounded message (Jina herself?) saying 
if you're wanting a job, send contact info and a head shot *click*.

Poor thing. ^_^

So, since there was no live human being there, I called the other 
prod office number I had, spoke to Karen, who transferred me to Kate 
(a Kate! A good sign!) in Publicity.

She said they're starting filming (didn't say if it was principal or 
not, but I'm assuming it was) in February... and they'll be done 
casting when they're done casting.

So as far as Jason Carter being cast, it could be another Jason-steps-
in-at-last-minute thing (that's what happened for the Avalanche 
commercial and his appearance on Third Rock from the Sun).

It's going to be a loooooong winter.

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/
'Engimatic... Charismatic... Magical ...and British.  Cast Jason 
Carter as Sirius Black!'




From corgi at SFF.net  Mon Oct 14 21:52:30 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:52:30 -0000
Subject: Q about Fang
In-Reply-To: <aoekhs+nfc5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aofeau+7t3o@eGroups.com>

--- Darlene wrote:
>> Sorry if this question has already been answerered (I searched 
>> the archive, but didn't find it).  Is Fang a Neapolitan Mastiff 
>> (w/o docked tail)?  I didn't recognize him as an AKC breed, so I
>> checked the UK Kennel Club and this breed looked the closest.

> I believe you are right.  Check out this page:
> http://www.neapolitan.org/

Oh, she's absolutely right!  Well spotted, both of you.  I've met 
Neos, they're amazingly massive.

Corgi - 'I'm on a mission from Dog.'
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 14 22:09:31 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:09:31 -0000
Subject: COS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
In-Reply-To: <20021014090242.34906.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aoffar+at0o@eGroups.com>

Lilac wrote (a lot more than I've left here):

> I didn't love the movie like I expected to, and I felt let down. 
> But, the more I saw the movie, the more I began to appreciate it in 
> and of itself, as it's own separate entity.  Now I can actually say 
> I love the movie, but it took quite a few times to get to that 
> point.   

> <Takes a deep, calming breath>  I'm just so afraid of being let 
> down again.  Silly, isn't it?  Does anyone out there know what I'm 
> talking about?

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about, although my HP 
experience was very different, as I'd not read the books before I saw 
the PS/SS movie. 

I'm much more of an avid film-goer (that's something of an 
understatement - I go to the cinema at least 3-4 times a week!) :-) 
than avid book-reader (of fiction), and everything I'd heard about HP 
before I saw the first film had put me right off. Furthermore, the 
film magazines I read are the more scholarly/arty type, which don't 
reproduce Hollywood hype. My entire exposure to the HP film franchise 
was what I'd seen on TV (which wasn't much outside Kids' TV, which I 
don't watch) and the painted buses going through town - probably 80% 
of local public transport took on an HP theme! I therefore knew 
nothing about the movie or the franchise beyond what I'd read in the 
pretentious reviews I'd seen.

I saw the movie at a preview showing a week before it went public and 
left the cinema perplexed as to why Snape should hate Harry so much, 
so I bought a copy of PS/SS on the way home. By the time I went to 
bed that night, I'd finished the book and started looking around 
online for what fans thought. Most of what I read (mainly on 
alt.fan.harry-potter; I'm a Usenet junkie!) made it clear to me that 
I should read the remaining books if I wanted to participate or not 
get spoiled about future movies, so over the next few days I read the 
remaining books. 

I then saw the movie again on the first day of public showing and 
started getting involved in the online HP community. Since then, I've 
read the first four books cover-to-cover once more (during the 
summer), which confirmed PoA as my favourite. Of course, for the 
purposes of one online dicsussion or another, I've re-read odd 
segments of the books. 

I've pointedly refused to re-read CoS in any detail, and certainly 
not in its entirety, which I'm saving for after I've seen the film. 
As a result, although I know who dunnit and how, I want the movie 
experience to be as fresh as it can be. I also intend to write two 
reviews: one before I re-read the book and one after, for my own 
benefit. I have a great problem with reviews of films made from 
books, especially if the books are widely read, because it's very 
difficult to maintain any distance from the source material. 

An OT example: I saw The Bourne Identity earlier this year and didn't 
like it ONE SINGLE BIT. I'd gone through a "Ludlum phase" about 5 or 
6 years ago and read all of his books. I was surprised how well I 
remembered this one when I was watching the film. Despite 
transferring the denouement action from a city I've never been to 
(New York) to a city I know very well and love above all others 
(Paris), I didn't like it. I didn't like Bourne's youth (in the book, 
the fact that he was to all intents and purposes washed out was very 
important), I didn't like the Paris car chase (apart from anything, 
it took ludicrous liberties with Paris geography), and I didn't like 
the fact that they'd changed the entire premise of the book to make a 
run-of-the-mill assassin-on-the-run movie (in the book, Bourne's 
assassin history was a deliberate fiction!). 

Now, that is an example of making an above-average action book into a 
mediocre action movie. Nevertheless, some critics (who'd not read the 
book) thought the movie above-average.

Back to HP: with only one or two exceptions, I approve wholeheartedly 
of the chnages made to PS/SS in its movie adaptation (my main 
objection is the change from JKR's humour to Kloves's), and basically 
I trust the production team to do the same with the second. Whilst I 
know a lot more about it, and have willingly sucked up the hype over 
the last 10 months, I continue to believe that the changes will be 
for the better. A minus I already know about is Columbus's 
trademark "screaming kids" which he used for the Fluffy encounter in 
PS/SS, and which we've already seen in trailer with Ron & Harry in 
the flying car. This I can overlook, for the time being. :-)

>From what I recall of the detail of the CoS plot, and from what I 
know or suspect has been changed for the movie, I don't object to 
changing the duelling scene, I don't object to having the Chamber 
immersed in water and I won't mind if the Singing Valentine is gone. 
I don't see Kenneth Branagh as Gilderoy Lockhart AT ALL, though, and 
remain to be convinced...





From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct 15 01:23:34 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 01:23:34 -0000
Subject: COS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
In-Reply-To: <20021014090242.34906.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aofqmm+k2bf@eGroups.com>

 Lilac wrote:
> 
> Okay, I am wondering if anyone else is going through "movie 
anxiety".<snip?>  (For PS/SS) I found out all I could about the 
movie and the cast, and had seen just about every picture there was 
on the net.  I bet I had seen about half the movie in stills on the 
net.  So, needless to say, I got really,  really excited for the 
movie to come out.  My expectations were very, very high. 
> 
> Then, I saw the movie.  Oh, yes, I *liked* it well enough.  But 
there were parts that I obsessed over during the rest of the 
movie.   Especially his *blue* eyes. <snip>  Little things would 
bother me, like  "Hermione NEVER said that!"  and "Oh, they got that 
part mixed up", etc.  
> 
> I didn't love the movie like I expected to, and I felt let down.  
But, the more I saw the movie, the more I began to appreciate it in 
and of itself, as it's own separate entity.  Now I can actually say 
I love the movie, but it took quite a few times to get to that 
point.   
> 
> I see a similar pattern this time.  <snip>

Now me:
   I think all of us who found JKR's writing--her unique sense of 
humor and her approach to her subject so utterly fascinating can't 
help but have anxieties about someone turning all that out onto the 
big screen.  What I like to tell myself is that these are two 
entirely different media.  Our experiences with the written word, no 
matter how much we discuss and analyze with others, is largely 
personal.  We are drawn into a story in which we meet characters 
that reveal themselves to us in extremely intimate ways.  We hear 
their thoughts and know their secret desires. It is possible to find 
pages of a character's interior dialogue so compelling, that we 
cannot put the book down.  Now, compare that experience to film.  
Film, by its very nature must keep moving.  Filmmakers must 
translate, as best they can wonderful words on paper into images on 
screen.  How does one do that well?  Often it involves translating 
the idea behind passages of prose into other images that are 
slightly different but can be universally understood.
   In my mind, the books are exciting enough, and the words gave me 
goosepimples in all the right places.  In the demonstration duel 
against Lockhart, I could see the superiority of Snape's skill even 
though JKR used very few words.  How does one put that on screen 
without looking totally cliche?  I'm sure the filmmakers thought, 
how about having him lob a bit of fire at the prancing peacock? In 
shorthand, they've established Snape as the far superior wizard, 
given us a hint at how powerful he really is and elicited a gasp or 
two from some of their audience by inserting a bit of tension.
   So Daniel Radcliffe's eyes are blue and not green -- except for 
the reasons that are yet to be revealed by JKR, I had no problem 
with that.  He makes a wonderful Harry and his eyes are very 
expressive.  JKR loved the movie, and she loved Daniel in the role.  
She commented that (even though many scenes in the book had to be 
snipped) all the important bits were there. 
   I would love to see the movie as I've seen the book in my head, 
but that vision of the book is always with me and it's mine alone.  
The movie, on the other hand, is the collective vision of the many 
people who created it--their unique interpretation. We post our 
ideas (our interpretations) to chat groups on the Web. They, with 
considerable more resources, are able to "post" their ideas in 
several thousand theaters.  
Relax, and have a cup of tea.
;-) Nia




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 08:25:06 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 01:25:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
Message-ID: <20021015082506.15101.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>


A big thanks to my "free" therapists, Richard and Nia!

Richard said:

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about, although my HP 
experience was very different, as I'd not read the books before I saw 
the PS/SS movie. 

<snipped quite a bit of good stuff that helped me>

Back to HP: with only one or two exceptions, I approve wholeheartedly 
of the changes made to PS/SS in its movie adaptation (my main 
objection is the change from JKR's humour to Kloves's), and basically 
I trust the production team to do the same with the second. Whilst I 
know a lot more about it, and have willingly sucked up the hype over 
the last 10 months, I continue to believe that the changes will be 
for the better. 

Me:

Thank-you, Richard.  I have willingly sucked up to the hype as well, and I think I just need to take a "chill pill"!  

Richard:

I don't see Kenneth Branagh as Gilderoy Lockhart AT ALL, though, and 
remain to be convinced...

Me:

There's where we disagree, Richard.  I think he looks cheeky and smarmy enough in the COS pics to pull off a superb Lockhart.  And that picture where he is flourishing his wand standing in front of a picture of himself, who is painting a picture of himself within that picture...I can't stop laughing at that!  I will be cheering with Gail, et al, for Snape to kick his lilac covered bum! 

Nia said:

What I like to tell myself is that these are two 
entirely different media.  Our experiences with the written word, no 
matter how much we discuss and analyze with others, is largely 
personal.

Me:

Yes, I agree.  I'm hoping to understand and accept that a lot faster this time than I did with HP1.

Nia:

So Daniel Radcliffe's eyes are blue and not green -- except for 
the reasons that are yet to be revealed by JKR, I had no problem 
with that.  He makes a wonderful Harry and his eyes are very 
expressive.  JKR loved the movie, and she loved Daniel in the role.  
She commented that (even though many scenes in the book had to be 
snipped) all the important bits were there. 


Me:

I also loved Dan's performance; please don't get me wrong about that.  I just was surprised at how much I obsessed over that little detail, which I think kind of ruined the rest of my movie experience on that opening day.  If I just go in there expecting to see and all ready loving those baby-blues, I'm sure I'll be okay. :-)

Nia:

I would love to see the movie as I've seen the book in my head, 
but that vision of the book is always with me and it's mine alone.  
The movie, on the other hand, is the collective vision of the many 
people who created it--their unique interpretation. We post our 
ideas (our interpretations) to chat groups on the Web. They, with 
considerable more resources, are able to "post" their ideas in 
several thousand theaters.  


Me:  

I'm learning to departmentalize the story-in-my-head-version far away from the movie version.  I like how you compared the movie to a "post", which helps me have a more accepting attitude towards the movie because that's how I look at the "list" we have.  Good point!  

Another thing I heard is to use the "shopping cart" method.  When you go grocery shopping, you don't put everything from the store in your basket all at once.  No, you take what you like, want and need and leave the things you don't on the shelf.    

Nia:

Relax, and have a cup of tea.


Me:

No kidding, huh?  I'm so nutters!  A nice, soothing chamomile with lemon does sound good...hey, I can even go to the local British market down the street and pick up a jar of clotted cream and some fresh scones so I can go for the whole British experience!

~Lilac~

Who, on her visit to the store "London Market", also saw bags of "crisps" (chips), boxes of "jelly" (jell-o), a small jar of black "treacle" (?? equivalent)  and...drum roll.... SHERBET LEMONS (lemon drops)!!!



 

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"Tut, tut --- hardly any of you remembered that my favorite color is *lilac*. 

I say so in Year with the Yeti."         --Gilderoy Lockhart, COS



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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 15 13:45:25 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:45:25 +0000
Subject: new international trailer
Message-ID: <F48q9IcVux1Zcn8TtEv0000066f@hotmail.com>

Hello everyone!
It's  nice to be able to voice ones opinions to people who know what I'm 
talking about. (None of my close friends or family have taken much interest 
in Harry, so they all sigh patiently and listen very reluctantly when I 
start telling them the latest news from the HP-universe. I try to shut up 
about it, but sometimes I just can't help myself. Can anyone relate?)
Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake, there have already been comments on this 
site on the new international trailer, but I didn't have access to it until 
today, through the Leaky. I love-love-loved it, of course. I don't know how 
many times I watched it, but it was quite a few. Then, of course, I had to 
click my way through it, frame by frame to SCRUTINIZE each shot. It was fun. 
I have a couple of omments. First one's completely irrelevant--but in the 
closeup of Harry's eyes as he reads Tom's diary, you can see the reflection 
of two people in his glasses. My guess is they're Chris Columbus and a 
cameraman. I thought that was quite funny.
Speaking of Harry's eyes, since they've been up for discussion a few times: 
In this new trailer they have taken on a schizophrenic quality as to colour. 
Most closeups of his face aren't close enough to determine eyecolor, but in 
some shots, where the eyecolor is clearly distiguishable, they are SOMETIMES 
blue and SOMETIMES green. What's going on? Let me give you an example. In 
the shot of Harry talking to Dobby in the hospital bed, his eyes are blue. 
However, in the shot of Harry talking to Lucius in Flourish & Blotts (where 
Lucius uses the knob of his fancy walking stick--which is the head of a 
snake:try  that on for a little gratuitous symbolism--to push Harry's bangs 
aside to reveal his scar) the eyes are ABSOLUTELY green. So what's the deal? 
Did the producers change their mind half way through, or did they just throw 
a little CGI into the trailer for fun? Anyway, now that I've seen the green 
version, I have to admit I preferred them blue. Call me a heretic, but Dan's 
eyes are lovely the way they are. We know he's Harry anyway. (Unless, of 
course  the particular colour matters later. It's a can of worms, I tell 
ya...)

One more comment: I think the revolving wooden phoenix (someone commented on 
it before) is the top ornament of the revolving staircase that leads to 
Dumbledore's office.

Sophia

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From akirabou at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 14:10:58 2002
From: akirabou at yahoo.com (Kara)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:10:58 -0000
Subject: MOVIE ANXIETY!!! / Actors aging / Richard Harris has cancer
Message-ID: <aoh7li+g0m0@eGroups.com>

Just some comments relating to previous posts...

The things that bothered me from the SS movie were that they left out
the "We know who we are, we're Gred and Forge", because it was one of
my favorite twin moments. That the sorting hat talked out loud. That
they pronounced Voldemort with the t, because I had always pronounced
it with with the t silent. And finally, how some characters referred
to Voldemort by name.

I'm not usually too picky, I was way too happy to see Harry Potter
come to life, even if it wasn't exactly like the books. I thought they
did an absolutly wonderful job with casting. Only one character
bothered me, Mrs. Weasley.. her voice was sort of.. painful to listen
to. And from what I've seen of CoS it looks like they did a great job
again. The woman they got for Professor Sprout is perfect! And I think
Kenneth for Gilderoy is great... I know he usually does serious stuff,
but he can be quite silly (prime example, when he did the voice of
Miguel in The Road to El Dorado). And I too will be cheering for Snape
in the duel! I love the snippit of it they show on one of the tv
commercials, where Malfoy gets hit by one of Harry's spells, and gets
thrown, spiraling backwards through the air. Anyway, I'm really
excited to see CoS, and it's helping the wait for the 5th book.

I heard that the new director wants to replace all the kids for the
fourth film because they'll be too old (don't take this as anything
but a rumor, it's just something someone told me, afterall, PoA hasn't
even started filming yet). I really hope that doesn't happen. I think
it would really take away from the films if they replaces the kids. I
know 7 films (or perhaps more, as there have been rumors of making
book 4 into two movies) is a huge commitment, and the likelyhood of
the entire cast staying with them is small... but I think it would be
really strange to see a different person as Harry, or anyone else. It
would be like if they switched actors for Luke Skywalker for Return of
the Jedi or something. (speaking of Mark Hamill... I hope none of the
kids get type cast like he did if they want to keep doing movies,
though since they're so young there's probably less chance of that) I
don't care if the kids are 20 years old for GoF... I'd rather have
them be in it. I mean, we see actors in their mid-twenties playing
high school students in movies and tv all the time.. and does it
really bother anyone? It doesn't bother me. Anyway, I'm starting to
ramble now.. so I'll shush, and end this with something I just found
on imdb.com .... :(

~

Irish acting legend Richard Harris is suffering from cancer. According
to British tabloid the Sunday Mirror, the former hellraiser has been
suffering an unknown cancer for two months - forcing producers on the
new Harry Potter movie to use a stand in for key scenes. Harris - who
plays Albus Dumbledore in the trilogy - became unwell working on Harry
Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets and was rushed to hospital in August
suffering from a severe chest infection. Movie bosses are now
considering alternative stars to fill Harris' boots if he is not well
enough to star in the third installment, Harry Potter And The Prisoner
Of Azkaban , which is due to begin filming in January. According to
the Mirror, the actor is now under the care of a consultant
hematologist who is one of the UK's leading cancer specialists. The
two-times Oscar-nominee has been in intensive care five times
previously and has been given the last rites on two separate
occasions. In the 1970s doctors warned him he would die if he didn't
kick his alcohol habit. But Harris is not one for regrets. He recently
said, "If I was analyzing myself I would consider myself an excessive
compulsive - which is everything I do has to be compulsive. I have to
go the whole way or it doesn't work for me."

~ Kara






From nplyon at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 14:39:51 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Movie Anxiety!!! (was RE: CoS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!)
In-Reply-To: <1034666764.402.45337.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021015143951.33745.qmail@web20909.mail.yahoo.com>

Lilac said (in reference to the film version of CoS
being different from the book version):

> 
> <Takes a deep, calming breath>  I'm just so afraid
> of being let down again.  Silly, isn't it?  Does
> anyone out there know what I'm talking about?

Okay, I know that the eye color change in Harry has
been extensively discussed.  Suffice it to say that it
bothers me as well since JKR is setting us up to find
out something *very* important about Harry's eyes. 
Now, the detail from the film version of CoS that
*really* bothers me is Hermione's hair.  I just can't
stand how neat and smooth it looks!  I thought it
looked wonderful in the first movie and I am
completely flabbergasted as to why they changed it for
the second.  She is supposed to have bushy hair!  It
just goes hand-in-hand with who she is.  What's more,
how in the world is her sleek hair supposed to impress
anyone at the Yule Ball in movie 4 if it's already all
smooth and sleek looking?

Anyway, I think it's clear from the above paragraph
that I don't think it's at all silly.  :)  I am one of
those people who always says, "The book was better
than the movie."  I know that a movie can't come out
exactly the same as the book but to me it's like
taking a Picasso, changing the the colors, and then
saying, "Look, it's a Picasso!"  You're changing the
essence of what the artist created and that makes it
different from the original.  I too have to look at
the movies and books as being separate entities.  I
enjoyed the PS/SS movie very much but I view it as an
interpretation of JKR's work.  The be all and end all
for me is the actual text that she wrote.

I'd just like to add that I will be extremely
disappointed if the Valentine scenes are not in the
movie, especially the dwarf singing Valentine.  I will
also be upset if there is no scene of Gred and Forge
clearing the way in the hallways and announcing,
"Seriously evil wizard coming through."  These are all
highlights of the books for me.

> 
> ~Lilac, who will be making an appointment with a
> psychiatrist tomorrow because she suspects that she
> has OCD... :)   

~Nicole, who pats Lilac on the arm and says, "There,
there.  I'll be next in line for a visit with the good
doctor."  :)

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From virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 15:01:08 2002
From: virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com (Megan)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:01:08 -0000
Subject: new international trailer
In-Reply-To: <F48q9IcVux1Zcn8TtEv0000066f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <aohajk+5qql@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "sophia mclaughlin" <sophiamcl at h...> wrote:
First one's completely irrelevant--but in the 
> closeup of Harry's eyes as he reads Tom's diary, you can see the
reflection 
> of two people in his glasses. My guess is they're Chris Columbus and a 
> cameraman. I thought that was quite funny.

> Sophia

I noticed that too and actually ran here to post.  I paused it at that
point and tried to make out who the people were.  I thought perhaps
the filmakers were giving US a little "easter egg" and do something
whimsical with the reflections.  One of the people looks like a woman.
 I absolutely cannot tell since he's supposed to be looking at the
diary AND the common room is deserted except for the ghost beside him
at the table.  Hopefully they fill fix this in the final editing,
because it's going to bug me otherwise.

The trailer's left me incoherent for the moment.  All I can say is:
How awesome WAS THAT?!

-Megan




From beazumd at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 15:17:04 2002
From: beazumd at yahoo.com (Lady Beatrix)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:17:04 -0000
Subject: HP2 sneak preview?
Message-ID: <aohbhg+nsag@eGroups.com>

Hi all.
I don't know if you saw it on TLC, but Fandango.com has tickets to 
HP2 for October 25th-31st. It's at the Century 14 in Roseville, 
California. I bought my tickets yesterday morning & already have the 
day off. (I'm just praying that it's not some cruel joke...)
There's also a 3:00 am showing on October "25" (actually the 26th, 
but who's counting) in Sparks, Nevada.
Anyone else planning on going to this?
~Bea (Who lives in Reno, but decided she wanted to see it at noon 
instead of 3am!)




From ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 15 15:32:13 2002
From: ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com (ginger_peachy130)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:32:13 -0000
Subject: new international trailer
In-Reply-To: <aohajk+5qql@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aohcdt+ap8e@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "sophia mclaughlin" <sophiamcl at h...> wrote:
> First one's completely irrelevant--but in the 
> > closeup of Harry's eyes as he reads Tom's diary, you can see the
> reflection 
> > of two people in his glasses. My guess is they're Chris Columbus 
and a 
> > cameraman. I thought that was quite funny.


The reflection in his glasses- it looks like the same shot of Lily, 
James and baby Harry from the first movie. (Lily is kissing Harry's 
hand.) Why he would be seeing that, I have no idea- unless they have 
inserted a shot of Harry looking at his photo album in between the 
shots of him writing in the diary.



Alexis







From beazumd at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 15:56:50 2002
From: beazumd at yahoo.com (Lady Beatrix)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:56:50 -0000
Subject: new international trailer
In-Reply-To: <aohajk+5qql@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aohds2+jcod@eGroups.com>

What the reflection looks like to me is that picture of Lily holding 
a baby Harry with James standing behind them. The picture that was in 
the album at the end of the first movie... I've uploaded a cropped 
screenshot into the Photos section. 
~Bea


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Megan" <virtualworldofhp at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "sophia mclaughlin" <sophiamcl at h...> wrote:
> First one's completely irrelevant--but in the 
> > closeup of Harry's eyes as he reads Tom's diary, you can see the
> reflection 
> > of two people in his glasses. My guess is they're Chris Columbus 
and a 
> > cameraman. I thought that was quite funny.
> 
> > Sophia
> 
> I noticed that too and actually ran here to post.  I paused it at 
that
> point and tried to make out who the people were.  I thought perhaps
> the filmakers were giving US a little "easter egg" and do something
> whimsical with the reflections.  One of the people looks like a 
woman.
>  I absolutely cannot tell since he's supposed to be looking at the
> diary AND the common room is deserted except for the ghost beside 
him
> at the table.  Hopefully they fill fix this in the final editing,
> because it's going to bug me otherwise.
> 
> The trailer's left me incoherent for the moment.  All I can say is:
> How awesome WAS THAT?!
> 
> -Megan




From ed4u at attbi.com  Tue Oct 15 16:14:26 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:14:26 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new international trailer
References: <aohds2+jcod@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c27465$eedbdb20$6601a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

ok i cant get it to run and have no clue why could someone try sending it to
me?

Katy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lady Beatrix" <beazumd at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new international trailer


> What the reflection looks like to me is that picture of Lily holding
> a baby Harry with James standing behind them. The picture that was in
> the album at the end of the first movie... I've uploaded a cropped
> screenshot into the Photos section.
> ~Bea
>
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Megan" <virtualworldofhp at y...> wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "sophia mclaughlin" <sophiamcl at h...> wrote:
> > First one's completely irrelevant--but in the
> > > closeup of Harry's eyes as he reads Tom's diary, you can see the
> > reflection
> > > of two people in his glasses. My guess is they're Chris Columbus
> and a
> > > cameraman. I thought that was quite funny.
> >
> > > Sophia
> >
> > I noticed that too and actually ran here to post.  I paused it at
> that
> > point and tried to make out who the people were.  I thought perhaps
> > the filmakers were giving US a little "easter egg" and do something
> > whimsical with the reflections.  One of the people looks like a
> woman.
> >  I absolutely cannot tell since he's supposed to be looking at the
> > diary AND the common room is deserted except for the ghost beside
> him
> > at the table.  Hopefully they fill fix this in the final editing,
> > because it's going to bug me otherwise.
> >
> > The trailer's left me incoherent for the moment.  All I can say is:
> > How awesome WAS THAT?!
> >
> > -Megan
>
>
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 15 17:47:46 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:47:46 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: COS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
References: <aoffar+at0o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005601c27472$f8873720$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Gulplum said:

> I don't see Kenneth Branagh as Gilderoy Lockhart AT ALL, though, and
> remain to be convinced...

Strange that, my first reaction on hearing that Branagh had the part was an
emphatic *Yes!*  I suppose it is because I've seen him to a lot of stage
work here in the U.K. from Hamlet to comedy and feel he could do the
overthetop luvvieness of Gilderoy Lockhart without it becoming camp,
something your average youngster would not appreciate (or simply laugh at
for the wrong reasons).

> I don't object to changing the duelling scene, I don't object to having
the Chamber
> immersed in water and I won't mind if the Singing Valentine is gone.

I rather think I will enjoy the rearrangement of the duelling scene and not
regret the changes, as it does look well done.  The little bits of students
doing stuff to each otehr can legitimately be dispensed with.  However, as
the film comes in at just two minutes under three hours it may be safe to
assume they will put it in, if only for the giggle element.  As I have
tickets booked for 8/11/02 (Cineworld permitting....) I may be able to let
you know.

Felicia





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 15 18:05:49 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:05:49 +0100
Subject: Daniel's eyes
References: <20021015143951.33745.qmail@web20909.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007901c27475$7eada4e0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I have avoided the issue of Harry's eyes for too long and must now throw in
my 5 pence worth then hold my peace.

I don't really think it's that important.

I would love for Harry/Daniel to have green eyes, but if he hasn't then
either someone goofed mega big time or JKR did not think it sufficiently
important to lay down the *Law According to J K Rowling*.  Columbus said she
had been very involved in the first film, and was readily available to
answer questions so it is possible they asked her and she said it was no big
deal.

Opinions on the computer/coloursation element (i.e. changing the colour of
his eyes by nefarious means) differs greatly; either it costs a mint or next
to nothing depending on whom you believe.  If JKS did say it's important and
Warners did NOT take any notice, they are the ones who will look very very
foolish.

Having had hair similar to Hermione's when I was small I can assure you that
her hair IS bushy enough (IMO), and is probably a pain in the neck to get a
brush through sometimes.  While I am sure they could have cast a bushier
haired girl, the fact is that the three principals gelled in a screen test
and Columbus knew he had the right ones there and then.

Felicia

> Lilac said (in reference to the film version of CoS
> being different from the book version):
>
> >
> > <Takes a deep, calming breath>  I'm just so afraid
> > of being let down again.  Silly, isn't it?  Does
> > anyone out there know what I'm talking about?
>
> Okay, I know that the eye color change in Harry has
> been extensively discussed.  Suffice it to say that it
> bothers me as well since JKR is setting us up to find
> out something *very* important about Harry's eyes.
> Now, the detail from the film version of CoS that
> *really* bothers me is Hermione's hair.  I just can't
> stand how neat and smooth it looks!  I thought it
> looked wonderful in the first movie and I am
> completely flabbergasted as to why they changed it for
> the second.  She is supposed to have bushy hair!  It
> just goes hand-in-hand with who she is.  What's more,
> how in the world is her sleek hair supposed to impress
> anyone at the Yule Ball in movie 4 if it's already all
> smooth and sleek looking?
>
> Anyway, I think it's clear from the above paragraph
> that I don't think it's at all silly.  :)  I am one of
> those people who always says, "The book was better
> than the movie."  I know that a movie can't come out
> exactly the same as the book but to me it's like
> taking a Picasso, changing the the colors, and then
> saying, "Look, it's a Picasso!"  You're changing the
> essence of what the artist created and that makes it
> different from the original.  I too have to look at
> the movies and books as being separate entities.  I
> enjoyed the PS/SS movie very much but I view it as an
> interpretation of JKR's work.  The be all and end all
> for me is the actual text that she wrote.
>
> I'd just like to add that I will be extremely
> disappointed if the Valentine scenes are not in the
> movie, especially the dwarf singing Valentine.  I will
> also be upset if there is no scene of Gred and Forge
> clearing the way in the hallways and announcing,
> "Seriously evil wizard coming through."  These are all
> highlights of the books for me.
>
> >
> > ~Lilac, who will be making an appointment with a
> > psychiatrist tomorrow because she suspects that she
> > has OCD... :)
>
> ~Nicole, who pats Lilac on the arm and says, "There,
> there.  I'll be next in line for a visit with the good
> doctor."  :)
>
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 15 18:43:14 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:43:14 +0100
Subject: MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
References: <aoffar+at0o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c2747a$b90c0500$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

After having downloaded the latest trailer in doubleQuick |time (using the
old right click trick!) I can now confirm that I will be embarrasing the
hell out of the other half in the cinema come duelling time.  Really, what a
crackshot the man is!!!!!!!  Avoid Islington on 8th November at all costs
you will probably hear the yells a mile away.  It's as close as I get to
Corgi's enthusiasm for Jason Carter...

Much as I am obliged not to *like* Lucius Malfoy, my resolve weakens when he
strides through the door.

<deep breath>

Maybe I'm just weak willed (or just plan weak....)

Felicia





From virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 19:06:24 2002
From: virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com (Megan)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:06:24 -0000
Subject: new international trailer
In-Reply-To: <F48q9IcVux1Zcn8TtEv0000066f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <aohovg+8v8k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "sophia mclaughlin" <sophiamcl at h...> wrote:
Speaking of Harry's eyes, since they've been up for discussion a few
times: 
> In this new trailer they have taken on a schizophrenic quality as to
colour. 
> Most closeups of his face aren't close enough to determine eyecolor,
but in 
> some shots, where the eyecolor is clearly distiguishable, they are
SOMETIMES 
> blue and SOMETIMES green. What's going on? Let me give you an
example. In 
> the shot of Harry talking to Dobby in the hospital bed, his eyes are
blue. 
> However, in the shot of Harry talking to Lucius in Flourish & Blotts
(where 
> Lucius uses the knob of his fancy walking stick--which is the head of a 
> snake:try  that on for a little gratuitous symbolism--to push
Harry's bangs 
> aside to reveal his scar) the eyes are ABSOLUTELY green. So what's
the deal? 
> Did the producers change their mind half way through, or did they
just throw 
> a little CGI into the trailer for fun? Anyway, now that I've seen
the green 
> version, I have to admit I preferred them blue.

If you slow down the playing (yes, I KNOW I have too much time on my
hands!) his eyes do very weird things in that shot with Lucius.  They
seem to be normal, then one eye flashes back and forth from violet to
normal blue and then they both turn green.  Is this because of the
quality of the movie we're seeing on our computers or am I just
hallucinating?  I don't care what color they are anymore, so long as
they are consistent!  Maybe it's just an experiment to see how viewers
like us react <g>.  It's not like WE don't know what the color of his
eyes is supposed to be.

Off to view the pixies scene just posted on TLC!

-Megan




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 20:23:01 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:23:01 -0000
Subject: MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
In-Reply-To: <00a601c2747a$b90c0500$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aohtf5+ujfk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Felicia Rickmann" <feliciarickmann at d...> 
wrote:
>> Much as I am obliged not to *like* Lucius Malfoy, my resolve 
weakens when he
> strides through the door.
> 
> <deep breath>
> 
> Maybe I'm just weak willed (or just plan weak....)
> 
> Felicia


OooOoooo  Felicia, you're not alone there!  Isn't he something? :O

Alora




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 23:10:30 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:10:30 -0000
Subject: COS Soundtrack, and MOVIE ANXIETY!!!
In-Reply-To: <005601c27472$f8873720$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aoi796+jl37@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:

> Strange that, my first reaction on hearing that Branagh had the 
part was an
> emphatic *Yes!*  I suppose it is because I've seen him to a lot of 
stage
> work here in the U.K. from Hamlet to comedy and feel he could do the
> overthetop luvvieness of Gilderoy Lockhart without it becoming camp,

Now what's really bizarre here is that I don't see him in the role 
for exactly the same reasons you do. :-) In that, I've also seen him 
on stage several times (though I don't think his Hamlet is a patch on 
Derek Jacobi's) :-) and I think I've seen all his film appearances. 
Simply put, I just don't think that Branagh does OTT very well. At 
All. 

> As I have tickets booked for 8/11/02 (Cineworld permitting....) I 
> may be able to let you know.

What time? :-) Mine are for 3.30 (UGC permitting...)...





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 15 23:38:05 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 23:38:05 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <007901c27475$7eada4e0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aoi8st+krff@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> I have avoided the issue of Harry's eyes for too long and must now 
throw in
> my 5 pence worth then hold my peace.
> 
> I don't really think it's that important.

<snip>

I agree entirely. I think that HP fandom has made *far* too much out 
of that interview transcript. During the interview (the Real video of 
which is available on the BBC Newsround site), she is clearly puzzled 
by Lizo's question about the eyes and it takes a couple of 
supplementary questions (by which stage their *colour* is all but 
irrelevant) for her to say something like "wait and see" (I can't be 
bothered to check right now). 

JKR was consulted at every step of the casting of the first movie, 
she saw some of the raw footage and was then invited to a test 
screening two weeks before the premiere. As far as we know, she did 
not make a big deal about Dan's eyes at any time. At least, she 
didn't in public - she may have done so privately to Columbus and/or 
Heyman. 

In any event, both she and they constantly underlined their mutual 
trust, and they asked for her advice about every detail (Columbus is 
quoted as having phoned to ask her about the growth rate of Mandrakes 
for CoS, for Goodness' sake!). I would consider it RUDE (at the very 
least) of them not to have asked for her opinion about Harry's eye 
colour when it transpired that (the contacts having proved to be a 
bad idea) the CGI colouration would not be applied.

> Opinions on the computer/coloursation element (i.e. changing the
> colour of his eyes by nefarious means) differs greatly; either it 
> costs a mint or next to nothing depending on whom you believe.  

The process itself is not expensive as such. The issue is that it is 
very time-consuming to do it right (though as they say, "time is 
money"). Dan's eyes being behind glasses most of the time added to 
the difficulty in making his eyes look *realistically* green.

By way of comparison, Mrs Norris's red eyes looked unnatural (not 
only because of the colour), but then that was probably deliberate; 
even so, I would expect her few short scenes to have taken a couple 
of days to apply the colour. It would have been extremely important 
for Dan's to be realistically green, especially without making them 
look dead, and as (let's face it) his eyes were his biggest acting 
asset in the first movie, a quick job to colour them would have 
looked extremely nasty.





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 02:06:40 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:06:40 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes
References: <aoi8st+krff@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01b601c274b8$b0bd5dc0$06a1cdd1@istu757>

GulPlum wrote:

> I agree entirely. I think that HP fandom has made *far* too much out
> of that interview transcript. During the interview (the Real video of
> which is available on the BBC Newsround site), she is clearly puzzled
> by Lizo's question about the eyes and it takes a couple of
> supplementary questions (by which stage their *colour* is all but
> irrelevant) for her to say something like "wait and see" (I can't be
> bothered to check right now).

The question wasn't even referring to color at all, they brought it up as
someone doing magic with their eyes.  JKR said something like "Aren't you
clever?  There might be something there, yes, very clever."  Or something
close to that.  Too lazy to look right now.  :)  Anyway, I think the "he has
his mother's eyes" thing isn't so much going to be about the *color* of the
eyes as what the eyes can in fact do.  If they have after all CGI'd Daniel's
eyes, maybe it was just to get in that "green as a pickled toad" line. :)
Okay, maybe that's wishful thinking.  Anyway, if they do I will miss
Daniel's incredible blue eyes!

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 02:50:39 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:50:39 -0500
Subject: CoS and Coca-Cola
Message-ID: <024a01c274be$d05f25e0$06a1cdd1@istu757>

I got my first twelve pack of "Harry Potter" Cokes today.  Was slightly disappointed that the cans don't actually say Harry Potter on them. :(  Well, anyway, my card was Slytherin chaser Adrian Pucey.  Lovely, I would get a Slytherin the first time.  Anyhow, I'm assuming there are different pictures you can see with different codes.  Mine had four pictures, one of Dumbledore, one of Harry and Ron in the car after (or while) crashing into the Whomping Willow, one of Harry, Ron, Fred, and George in the Burrow (all standing, which makes Harry look rather short), and one of Harry, Ron, and Mr. and Mrs. Weasley in the kitchen all looking off screen at something, looking rather startled.  Anyhow, I enjoyed that!

Now I'm off to watch the new trailer, which has finally finished downloading!

Richelle

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 16 03:35:59 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 22:35:59 -0500
Subject: New trailer
Message-ID: <000801c274c5$2aef4b60$32a0cdd1@istu757>

Okay, I've finally seen it (once or twice.  Or maybe three times.) :)  Anyway, yep, Harry's eyes are most definitely green in at least one scene, when Lucius moves aside his hair to see the scar.  Very green.  Odd.  If it's changed, prehaps it is for the "pickled toad" line.  That's all I can figure.  I know, I just want that scene there.  

I must say, I love Errol hitting the window.  Too cute.  And the hug is so "aww" (Hagrid's).  Love it.  And Lockhart's "So sorry, dozed off, what did I miss?" line.  I'm SO glad that's in there!  

My only complaint is that Harry says "Diagon Ally" much to clearly when he's using the Floo Powder.  He's supposed to cough and that is how he ends up in Knockturn Ally.  But he says it loud and clear in the trailer.  Ah, well, can't have everything.  And I'm sure I've seen pictures of Knockturn Ally, so that's got to be in there.

Off to bed now!

Richelle

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---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 08:01:36 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: New Trailer
Message-ID: <20021016080136.41064.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>


Richelle said:

My only complaint is that Harry says "Diagon Ally" much to clearly when 
he's using the Floo Powder.  He's supposed to cough and that is how he 
ends up in Knockturn Ally.  But he says it loud and clear in the 
trailer.  Ah, well, can't have everything.  And I'm sure I've seen pictures 
of Knockturn Ally, so that's got to be in there.


Me:  

Yes, that would be my only complaint as well. But that was a pretty good effect nonetheless, wouldn't you say?

You know, after seeing that new trailer, my movie anxiety is but a memory!  I think I will not be disappointed in the movie *at all*!  

Didn't you just love that Lockhart and the Pixies scene off of TLC?  It's hilarious when the picture Lockhart stops painting and runs off-frame the same time real Lockhart runs away.  I was laughing SO HARD.  That just confirmed my belief in Branagh being an excellent Lockhart.

Do you think they'll take that All-About-Lockhart quiz?  I'd love to hear my sig line in the movie, but it looks like they left that part out.  But I'm still okay with it!  See, look at how much I've grown since my MOVIE ANXIETY!!! post.


Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for Utah.  Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?

~Lilac~



 

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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 08:02:37 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 01:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: New Trailer
Message-ID: <20021016080237.41619.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com>


Richelle said:

My only complaint is that Harry says "Diagon Ally" much to clearly when 
he's using the Floo Powder.  He's supposed to cough and that is how he 
ends up in Knockturn Ally.  But he says it loud and clear in the 
trailer.  Ah, well, can't have everything.  And I'm sure I've seen pictures 
of Knockturn Ally, so that's got to be in there.


Me:  

Yes, that would be my only complaint as well. But that was a pretty good effect nonetheless, wouldn't you say?

You know, after seeing that new trailer, my movie anxiety is but a memory!  I think I will not be disappointed in the movie *at all*!  

Didn't you just love that Lockhart and the Pixies scene off of TLC?  It's hilarious when the picture Lockhart stops painting and runs off-frame the same time real Lockhart runs away.  I was laughing SO HARD.  That just confirmed my belief in Branagh being an excellent Lockhart.

Do you think they'll take that All-About-Lockhart quiz?  I'd love to hear my sig line in the movie, but it looks like they left that part out.  But I'm still okay with it!  See, look at how much I've grown since my MOVIE ANXIETY!!! post.


Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for Utah.  Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?

~Lilac~



 

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From ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 16 12:04:33 2002
From: ginger_peachy130 at hotmail.com (ginger_peachy130)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:04:33 -0000
Subject: New Trailer
In-Reply-To: <20021016080136.41064.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aojkkh+621d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Lilac <lilac_bearry at y...> wrote:
> 
> Do you think they'll take that All-About-Lockhart quiz?  I'd love 
to hear my sig line in the movie, but it looks like they left that 
part out.  But I'm still okay with it!  See, look at how much I've 
grown since my MOVIE ANXIETY!!! post.


Well, they certainly filmed it, at least: 
http://www.latinoreview.com/moviereviews/2002/hp2cos/hp2-14.html

Alexis



> 
> 
> Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for 
Utah.  Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?
> 
> ~Lilac~
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> "Tut, tut --- hardly any of you remembered that my favorite color 
is *lilac*. 
> 
> I say so in Year with the Yeti."         --Gilderoy Lockhart, COS
> 
> 
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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 16 15:10:04 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New Trailer
In-Reply-To: <20021016080136.41064.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021016151004.74612.qmail@web40309.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Lilac <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com> wrote:

Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for Utah.  Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?

~Lilac~



Oh! Oh! (Hand reaching to the ceiling Hermione-style!) I am from the Beehive state.  I am an HP junkie as well. I am counting the days until I can lose myself in the Harry universe for three hours! The new trailer was incredible and made me even more excited to see the final product. My favorite parts were the floo powder scene and the parseltongue at the dueling club scene. Dan, Rupert and Emma are cuties!

Fellow Utahn,

Kristi



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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 16 15:16:15 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:16:15 -0000
Subject: New Trailer
In-Reply-To: <20021016080237.41619.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aojvrv+r3jt@eGroups.com>

Lilac wrote:
> You know, after seeing that new trailer, my movie anxiety is but a 
memory!  I think I will not be disappointed in the movie *at all*!  
> 
> Didn't you just love that Lockhart and the Pixies scene off of 
TLC?  It's hilarious when the picture Lockhart stops painting and 
runs off-frame the same time real Lockhart runs away.  I was laughing 
SO HARD.  That just confirmed my belief in Branagh being an excellent 
Lockhart.
> 
> Do you think they'll take that All-About-Lockhart quiz?  I'd love 
to hear my sig line in the movie, <snip> 
> 

Hi, Lilac,

   So glad you're felling better!   The Lockhart and the pixies scene 
is almost pure canon and you're right, it is truly hilarious!  I did 
see pictures posted a while back at TLC that showed the DADA Class 
taking that ridiculous Lockhart quiz.  Ron's face was contorted into 
the funniest expression -- it would seem a shame not to add the 
Lockhart comments as well since they help establish the character so 
perfectly.
--Nia




From divaclv at aol.com  Wed Oct 16 15:25:39 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:25:39 -0000
Subject: New Trailer
In-Reply-To: <20021016151004.74612.qmail@web40309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aok0dj+quis@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Kristi Smith <kristilynn5 at y...> wrote:
> 
>  
>  Lilac <lilac_bearry at y...> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for 
Utah.  Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?
> 
> ~Lilac~

Not Utah, but right next door to it--proud native of the great state 
of Colorado. :-)

~Christi




From hoeppli at freesurf.ch  Wed Oct 16 15:41:45 2002
From: hoeppli at freesurf.ch (hoeppli at freesurf.ch)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:41:45 +0200
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <1034753837.402.64139.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3D9436CE00006F81@freesurfmta04.sunrise.ch>

I just wanted to add my humble opinion to the discussion:

I can't see, why it is so important that Daniel's eyes should be green.
Of course, in the book one of Harry's main features are his incredible green
eyes. And of course I would have loved to see an actor with huge, expressive
green eyes in the film as well.
But when casting an actor for a film, the most important aspect should be
his ability to act the part and not to have the perfect look. I guess I
would not have enjoyed the film as much if they would have found a boy with
perfectly green eyes and incredibly unruly hair but without any acting talent.

When first watching the movie, I didn't even react to the different eye
colour. I was just concentrating on how he was acting, how he impersonified
Harry as a character. And in this field, I was totally happy with Daniel's
performance. I can't imagine any other actor in this role now. 
And I guess that after they found out that Daniel wasn't able to work with
contacts, they decided to rather give a natural impression of a talented
young actor with expressive eyes, than to alter the colour technically and
lose some of his acting quality.

Silvia


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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 16 17:35:38 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:35:38 +0100
Subject: Branagh OTT?
References: <aoi796+jl37@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005d01c2753a$710fa980$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

> Simply put, I just don't think that Branagh does OTT very well. At
> All.

Shame I can't get the pixies bit perhaps I could decide about his OTT'ing,
or not, we can't have Real Player software it messes up our other music
downloading software. No Real Player also means I haven't heard the music
yet *sigh* either....

> > As I have tickets booked for 8/11/02 (Cineworld permitting....) I
> > may be able to let you know.
>
> What time? :-) Mine are for 3.30 (UGC permitting...)...
>
I have to work *sniff* to it's an 8 p.m. slot at trendy Islington and a late
ride home on the motorbike.... then if I'm up to it, time to compare notes
here........

Felicia





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Wed Oct 16 18:46:08 2002
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:46:08 -0000
Subject: Branagh OTT?
In-Reply-To: <005d01c2753a$710fa980$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aokc5g+vt4n@eGroups.com>

Richard aka GulPlum wrote:-

> > Simply put, I just don't think that Branagh does OTT very well. At
> > All.
>

Felicia says:-
 
> Shame I can't get the pixies bit perhaps I could decide about his 
OTT'ing,

I say:-

I first saw Kenneth Branagh when he was a 23 year old playing Henry 
Vth at Stratford; he was mersmerising. Quite simply, he transformed 
my view of boring old William Shakespeare. I went from hating the 
play I was forced to do for O'Level to being able to remember large 
chunks of his speeches off by heart. ||I can't think of many other 
actors who would be capable of creating that kind of impression. I 
know that he's been almost vilified in the past for some of his 
more "luvvie" acting, but I've no doubt that he'll be able to 
convince me in his role as Lockhart.


Ali

Who also has tickets for November 8th at 8.30, and is thoroughly 
looking forward to it.




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 16 18:54:33 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:54:33 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <3D9436CE00006F81@freesurfmta04.sunrise.ch>
Message-ID: <aokcl9+3sph@eGroups.com>

Silvia wrote:
> I can't see, why it is so important that Daniel's eyes should be 
green.
> Of course, in the book one of Harry's main features are his 
incredible green
> eyes. And of course I would have loved to see an actor with huge, 
expressive
> green eyes in the film as well.
> <snip> I was just concentrating on how he was acting, how he 
impersonified
> Harry as a character. And in this field, I was totally happy with 
Daniel's
> performance. I can't imagine any other actor in this role now. 
> And I guess that after they found out that Daniel wasn't able to 
work with
> contacts, they decided to rather give a natural impression of a 
talented
> young actor with expressive eyes, than to alter the colour 
technically and
> lose some of his acting quality.


I couldn't agree more, Silvia.  Daniel is a perfect Harry and, if 
Christopher Columbus is to be believed, he's much better and more 
mature in CoS.  He seems to take a great deal of initiative in 
preparing for his performances.  He has reread Rowling's books and 
patterns his protrayals from the canon Harry.  With a young actor 
that special, who needs green eyes?
--Nia




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 16 18:56:05 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:56:05 +0100
Subject: Seen and not heard, plus other stuff
References: <aoi796+jl37@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003501c27545$ae508160$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I have some new dvd software on my work computer so now I can watch my HP
dvd (lunchtimes..) but only with subtitles, as I have no soundcard ;-)).

Relying on the subtitles (having seen/heard the film several times) I find
they have small irritating omissions from what is said on screen, e.g. Prof.
MacGonagall transforming herself into a Watch not a Pocket watch, and no
mention being made of where Hagrid bought his dragon egg * I bought it from
an Irishman.* (.down the pub..)  Why?  No indication is given of the noises
that happen in/out of shot either .e.g.  noisy cheering (at the Quidditch
match), distant footsteps (as Filch approaches the Library; Lamp falling)
and so on.  Not important us who have our hearing but, I think, sloppy work
by those executing the dvd.  (Noises are indicated on my Galaxy Quest dvd
and they do matter.  The HP/PS pc game also has the text along the screen
bottom for deaf kids.)

I also missed the music, especially in the Chess sequence, but that's a more
personal thing.

Secondly, I was looking at my 2002 PS film calendar, in which has Harry
waiting to go out for his first Quidditch match, and it is astonishing how
young he looks, it quite shocked me, used as I am to Daniel Radcliffe Now
rather than Daniel Radcliffe Then!

Lastly, I have found a way around the issue of the ultimate Harry Potter
issue on dvd!  They can put it out as a * Director's Cut*.   We can have
every deleted scene, in full, as we can take as long as we like over the
film, and have the out takes and (mis)takes thrown in as well.  Face is
saved on all sides and everyone from film freaks to basic HP'ers goes home
happy..

Felicia
Who swears she can see a bludger chasing Harry in Trailer 2 when he and
Malfoy hurtle down into the Quidditch trench..... 58 seconds in..





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 16 19:04:18 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:04:18 +0100
Subject: Branagh OTT.  Definitely could be
References: <aokc5g+vt4n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003e01c27546$d45fbdc0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>


> Ali
>
> Who also has tickets for November 8th at 8.30, and is thoroughly
> looking forward to it.
>

Good I'm glad I'm not alone in admiring young Kenneth.  Saw him as Hamlet
(alas I did not see Derek Jacobi as the Dane, much to my regret.....).  I
really liked KB in the series he did on tv with Emma Thomson, I am sure
someone will furnish the name.... which made me read the books, and yes they
were good too.

Branagh knows a lot about different things and does them all well, as such
can be difficult for a pigeonholing film society to find a niche for.  I
like his directing style, many don't, particularly his penchant for long
tracking shots (this means you have to pay attention so people hate it!) so,
all in all, and even if I cannot download the pixies, and I wish his hair
had been slightly longer (but that might be the Stephen Fry influence...)

That aside, I think London will be rather empty on 8th November, all in
all...............

Felicia





From corgi at SFF.net  Wed Oct 16 23:59:00 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:59:00 -0000
Subject: Which Showing? (Was: Branagh OTT?)
In-Reply-To: <005d01c2753a$710fa980$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aokug4+ksc7@eGroups.com>

GulPlum:
>> What time? :-) Mine are for 3.30 (UGC permitting...)...

Felicia:
> I have to work *sniff* to it's an 8 p.m. slot at trendy Islington
> and a late ride home on the motorbike.... then if I'm up to it,
> time to compare notes here........

(Yooooou, Felicia you! <snicker>)

With any decent luck, my ticket is for a cushy Pullman seat at a 
cinema in beautiful downtown Manchester on Saturday!  (The trick will 
be getting across the Pond, eh?)

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/
'Enigmatic, Charismatic, Magical...and British. Cast Jason as Sirius!'




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 02:01:14 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:01:14 -0000
Subject: Branagh OTT.  Definitely could be
In-Reply-To: <003e01c27546$d45fbdc0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> I really liked KB in the series he did on tv with Emma Thomson, I
> am sure someone will furnish the name.... which made me read the 
> books, and yes they were good too.

I assume you mean Fortunes of War? (your certainty is my pleasure):-) 
I never read the books, and have only vague recollections of the TV 
series, which include that it was indeed good.

It's a pity they broke up - I know nothing about their personal lives 
and problems but I thought they worked together very well - 
everything they did together had a little frisson to it which was 
well appreciated.

> Branagh knows a lot about different things and does them all well,
> as such can be difficult for a pigeonholing film society to find a 
> niche for.  I like his directing style, many don't, particularly 
> his penchant for long tracking shots (this means you have to pay 
> attention so people hate it!) 

For reasons too long to go into (this is now getting very OT anyway) 
last week, I had reason to borrow his and Orson Welles' versions of 
Othello, both of which I watched twice in 24 hours. Whilst Welles was 
undoubtedly one of cinema's true geniuses, I thought Ken did a pretty 
good job and actually made a better *film* of the play than Welles 
did. Welles' was just a little too "theatrical" for my taste, 
although the B&W cinematography was absolutely exquisite.

And yes, I loved the tracking shots. :-)

> so, all in all, and even if I cannot download the pixies, and I 
> wish his hair had been slightly longer (but that might be the 
> Stephen Fry influence...)

I assume that you've found the Leaky Cauldron's set of screenshots by 
now, given your technical difficulties? They're worth a look.

Having seen the Pixies (in action) my reservations remain and he 
still doesn't seem quite (I'm not quite sure what word I'm looking 
for) "foppish"... (?) enough as Lockhart. And I agree entirely. He 
hasn't got anywhere nearly long enough hair. :-) (and no, I have no 
reason to have been influenced by Fry!)

> That aside, I think London will be rather empty on 8th November,
> all in all

I have a friend coming up here from London on the 8th to spend some 
time on the Saturday working on a common project. He's coming with 
his wife, who I *think* is a HP fan, so if I'm impressed enough with 
the movie after my 3.30 show, I may well drag them along for a repeat 
performance in the evening when I pick them up from their train... :-)






From nplyon at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 04:33:51 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:33:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The Grey Lady
Message-ID: <20021017043351.14210.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com>

After watching the newest CoS trailer, I just had to
post about this because it's something that's been
bothering me for some time.  I know on the main group
there have been some discussions about ghosts and some
specific to the Grey Lady but has anyone else noticed
her appearances in the movies and thought it odd?  In
SS/PS she is sitting at a desk when Harry, Ron, and
Hermione race up to McGonagall's desk saying they need
to see Dumbledore.  There is also a brief shot of her
with Nearly Headless Nick, who is telling her about
Harry becoming the Gryffindor seeker.  Now, after
having seen several trailers, I've noticed that she's
sitting at the table with Harry as he's writing in the
diary and asking if Tom Riddle knows anything about
the Chamber of Secrets.  Any thoughts on this?  I know
there is supposed to be more about ghosts in the
upcoming novels and I know JKR told some of the people
involved in the films some extra info about some of
the characters so I'm wondering if Columbus knows
something about the Grey Lady that we don't know.

~Nicole, who is now going to go and attempt to
download the new trailer since her computer has been
cranky about streaming video for the past couple days.


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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Thu Oct 17 07:47:11 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:47:11 -0000
Subject: Cornish Pixies Scene 
Message-ID: <aolptv+fe3h@eGroups.com>

Since no one commented,(or I missed the comments) I'm wondering if 
anyone else noticed that TLC has posted a link to AOL that will 
allow you to view the ENTIRE "Cornish Pixies" scene from CoS in 
RealMedia format. I've attempted to post the link below, but in case 
it doesn't work, look on The Leaky Cauldron's site under October 
15.  It's hilarious!
--Nia

http://demand1.stream.aol.com/ramgen/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2002/har
rypotterchamber_012285/harrypotterchamber_cornishpixies_clip_bb8.rm

 




From ferretlovr at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 09:48:46 2002
From: ferretlovr at yahoo.com (Jessica)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:48:46 -0000
Subject: New Trailer
Message-ID: <aom11u+a7ks@eGroups.com>

>Do you think they'll take that All-About-Lockhart quiz?  I'd love to 
>hear my sig line in the movie, but it looks like they left that part 
>out.  
>But I'm still okay with it!  See, look at how much I've grown since 
>my 
>MOVIE ANXIETY!!! post.

There is a screenshot of them looking at an exam in the DADA 
classroom, and Ron was a very funny look of disbelief on his face-I 
can only assume this is THE quiz.


>Oh, I checked out the regional groups, and didn't see any for Utah.  
>Any other HP fanatics out there from the Beehive State?

Me!  I'm in Salt Lake!  We should start a regional group!

*ducks the mods and moves this to OTChatter*

Jessica
moonlight69



 

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 17 13:22:30 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:22:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Grey Lady
Message-ID: <20552229.1034860950094.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>


> having seen several trailers, I've noticed that she's
> sitting at the table with Harry as he's writing in the
> diary and asking if Tom Riddle knows anything about
> the Chamber of Secrets.  Any thoughts on this?  I know
> there is supposed to be more about ghosts in the
> upcoming novels and I know JKR told some of the people
> involved in the films some extra info about some of
> the characters so I'm wondering if Columbus knows
> something about the Grey Lady that we don't know.
> 
> ~Nicole, who is now going to go and attempt to
> download the new trailer since her computer has been
> cranky about streaming video for the past couple days.

I *think* I read somewhere that JKR said we'd learn more about the Grey Lady in 
a future book.  So she may indeed be important.  Did anyone else read this?  I 
hope I'm not making it up. :o  I really do think I read it, though, honestly.

Another thing, we've hypothesized over Peeves and what it is different about 
him. Yet he was removed from the movies.  Even though he was filmed.  Is he 
important or isn't he?  You'd think they'd have checked with JKR before 
removing an entire character.

Richelle
  ----------

After watching the newest CoS trailer, I just had to
post about this because it's something that's been
bothering me for some time.  I know on the main group
there have been some discussions about ghosts and some
specific to the Grey Lady but has anyone else noticed
her appearances in the movies and thought it odd?  In
SS/PS she is sitting at a desk when Harry, Ron, and
Hermione race up to McGonagall's desk saying they need
to see Dumbledore.  There is also a brief shot of her
with Nearly Headless Nick, who is telling her about
Harry becoming the Gryffindor seeker.  Now, after
having seen several trailers, I've noticed that she's
sitting at the table with Harry as he's writing in the
diary and asking if Tom Riddle knows anything about
the Chamber of Secrets.  Any thoughts on this?  I know
there is supposed to be more about ghosts in the
upcoming novels and I know JKR told some of the people
involved in the films some extra info about some of
the characters so I'm wondering if Columbus knows
something about the Grey Lady that we don't know.

~Nicole, who is now going to go and attempt to
download the new trailer since her computer has been
cranky about streaming video for the past couple days.


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From draco382 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 16:47:29 2002
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:47:29 -0000
Subject: The Grey Lady
In-Reply-To: <20021017043351.14210.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aompj1+ip5j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Nicole L." <nplyon at y...> wrote:
> Now, after having seen several trailers, I've noticed that she's
> sitting at the table with Harry as he's writing in the
> diary and asking if Tom Riddle knows anything about
> the Chamber of Secrets.  Any thoughts on this?

I noticed that too...and was surprised since you'd think Grey Lady 
would be a little more than shocked to see a diary writing back to 
Harry and then a bright light coming out of it.  Harry would 
hopefully be a bit wiser than to do this in front of people (or 
ghosts).  But notice how in the first few seconds we see a close up 
shot of Harry's eyes and his parents are reflected in his glasses?  
Some other people mentioned this as well -- but i'm guessing WB 
combined two scenes (and created some confusion, i must say) for the 
trailer.  I bet the two scenes were Harry looking at his old photo 
album and then writing in the diary.  So maybe Grey Lady was sitting 
at the table when Harry was looking at the photo album and the scene 
with the diary coming to life happens when Grey Lady leaves?  
I'm not sure if this is making sense...but its the only thing i can 
think of.  I don't have my book with me, but as far as i an remember, 
there isn't anyone with Harry when he writes in the diary first, is 
there?

my two cents :-)

~draco382 




From erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 17:21:11 2002
From: erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com (erisedstraeh2002)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:21:11 -0000
Subject: The Grey Lady
In-Reply-To: <20552229.1034860950094.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>
Message-ID: <aomri7+86vb@eGroups.com>

Richelle wrote:

> I *think* I read somewhere that JKR said we'd learn more about the 
> Grey Lady in a future book.  So she may indeed be important.  Did 
> anyone else read this?  I hope I'm not making it up. :o  I really 
> do think I read it, though, honestly.

Now me:

I don't recall her saying anything specifically about the Grey Lady, 
but in two separate interviews, she's asked why some wizards/witches 
become ghosts and others don't and she responds differently in each 
interview:

Answer one:  Another superb question, and this time I can tell you 
that you will find out much more about that in book five. 

Answer two:  You don't really find that out until Book VII, but I can 
say that the happiest people do not become ghosts. As you might 
guess, Moaning Myrtle! 

~Phyllis




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 17 17:44:56 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:44:56 +0100
Subject: Silly question maybe
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006901c27604$e86253a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Silly question but never mind....

Someone decided the the U.S. would not understand about philosopher's stones
right? So called them sorcerer's stones instead.  The title of the book was
changed right?  So did it confuse any HP fans out there when they called it
the philosopher's stone in the film, or was that changed for U.S.
consumption as well?

I just wondered, having had my *bogie* flavoured Beans turned into *booger*
flavoured ones on the sub titles on my dvd.

Felicia





From sequoiajw at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 17:50:49 2002
From: sequoiajw at yahoo.com (G. Jackson)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:50:49 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Silly question maybe
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com> <006901c27604$e86253a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <002001c27605$c386ca60$5b3a67ce@gj1011405onem>

Not silly; they did change all the references in the US version of the
film to sorcerer's stone. They filmed all those sequences twice and
popped the appropriate version into each final cut.

Although I have to say that some of us here in the wild west (aka US)
actually would still be able to follow the story had they kept it
"Philosopher's Stone" (or bogie flavored) throughout.

Gwynne (who wonders if she's the only one going as a Slytherin for
Halloween?)





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 17 17:51:36 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:51:36 +0100
Subject: CoS Music CD query
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <007501c27605$d6e2d860$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I apologise in advance for a brief post, but there is no use in pointless
flanneling.

Can anyone advise me of a UK release date for the CoS music yet?  I have
seen the music on Amazon.com but not on the UK site.  (The PC game, however,
is available on both sites however!).  Leaky Cauldron has other US details
including the five covers that will be available (including, hopefully, one
with Snape on....)

I would like to order my copy in advance, otherwise it will get lost during
a very busy period at work and I will forget altogether.... organisation not
being my strong point ;-(

Felicia





From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Thu Oct 17 17:53:54 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:53:54 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Silly question maybe
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com> <006901c27604$e86253a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <3DAEF932.C41C7CEC@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Hiya -- they changed it for the u.s., yeah.   they filmed each scene that mentioned the stone by name twice.

cos in our version, when Harry and Co. run up to McGonagal, they say, "We know about the Sorceror's Stone!"

:)

Felicia Rickmann wrote:

> Silly question but never mind....
>
> Someone decided the the U.S. would not understand about philosopher's stones
> right? So called them sorcerer's stones instead.  The title of the book was
> changed right?  So did it confuse any HP fans out there when they called it
> the philosopher's stone in the film, or was that changed for U.S.
> consumption as well?
>
> I just wondered, having had my *bogie* flavoured Beans turned into *booger*
> flavoured ones on the sub titles on my dvd.
>
> Felicia




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 17 17:59:14 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:59:14 +0100
Subject: Silly question maybe
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com> <006901c27604$e86253a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq> <002001c27605$c386ca60$5b3a67ce@gj1011405onem>
Message-ID: <007d01c27606$e7c194e0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

> Not silly; they did change all the references in the US version of the
> film to sorcerer's stone. They filmed all those sequences twice and
> popped the appropriate version into each final cut.

THEY DID!!!!!!!!

> Although I have to say that some of us here in the wild west (aka US)
> actually would still be able to follow the story had they kept it
> "Philosopher's Stone" (or bogie flavored) throughout.
>
Good grief!!!!!!!! Maybe I was just being woolly headed but it never
occurred to me they would have to do that.  I have American chums and they
do not strike me as thick, stupid or even dim!!  In fact I think they drive
better in New York than here in London....... but ....never mind...........

At least it looks as though Valentine's day is alive and kicking in the US,
judging from the worries about the scenes that may be omitted from the film
;-))  I have followed GulPlum's advice and viewed the pixies bit in picture
form but, the bottom line on Gilderoy is, I shall have to wait and see.  I
like Branagh but a few snippets here and there don't give you a rounded out
character.....

Felicia
off to work on her spell book......





From htrekkie at aol.com  Thu Oct 17 19:02:49 2002
From: htrekkie at aol.com (htrekkie at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:02:49 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Silly question maybe
Message-ID: <1ba.7e852b4.2ae06359@aol.com>

Hey all....I've been a lurker for quite sometime, but would love to respond 
to this question. I am a 38 yr old average Jane from Georgia and know well 
the legend of the Philosopher's stone.... Archemedies (sp?) himself was an 
apothocary looking for the Philosopher's stone when he discovered the 
principle of water displacement and ran throught the streets shouting 
"Eureka!". The fact that the powers that be changed the title to Sorcerer's 
Stone actually confused me, because I didn't realize what they meant at 
first....then I realized they must figure those of us here in the US don't 
know our history very well. I'm actually dying to get my hands on all the 
books from the UK!!!!! Oh well,,, PS or SS It's still GREAT!!!!    
Rebecca (who was soooooo afraid she was strange for being 38 and obsessed 
with a bunch of teenagers....till she found ya'll !!!)


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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 17 20:54:22 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:54:22 -0000
Subject: CoS Music CD query
In-Reply-To: <007501c27605$d6e2d860$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aon81u+npp4@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:

<snips>

> Can anyone advise me of a UK release date for the CoS music yet?  

Same as the US, 12th November. At least that's what a HMV poster 
informed me today. :-)





From amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com  Fri Oct 18 10:13:15 2002
From: amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com (faura2002)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:13:15 -0000
Subject: Silly question maybe
In-Reply-To: <002001c27605$c386ca60$5b3a67ce@gj1011405onem>
Message-ID: <aoomrr+kj80@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "G. Jackson" <sequoiajw at y...> wrote:
> Not silly; they did change all the references in the US version of 
the film to sorcerer's stone. They filmed all those sequences twice 
and popped the appropriate version into each final cut.
<snip> 

It was also the US movie version which they marketed in Asia (well, 
at least here in the Philippines).

However, both book versions are available, albeit only one major 
bookstore chain carries the UK versions, and they have a reputation 
for hard to find books...

cheers everyone!

faura




From Dar20 at aol.com  Fri Oct 18 13:54:25 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:54:25 -0000
Subject: Silly question maybe
In-Reply-To: <1ba.7e852b4.2ae06359@aol.com>
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Rebecca,

You can purchase the UK books on Amazon's UK site, as well as the CD 
(they are actually a great bargain, much cheaper for hardback than 
they are in the US).  I was also able to purchase the PS DVD through 
chapters.ca.  Hope this helps!

Dar


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., htrekkie at a... wrote:
> Hey all....I've been a lurker for quite sometime, but would love to 
respond 
> to this question. I am a 38 yr old average Jane from Georgia and 
know well 
> the legend of the Philosopher's stone.... Archemedies (sp?) himself 
was an 
> apothocary looking for the Philosopher's stone when he discovered 
the 
> principle of water displacement and ran throught the streets 
shouting 
> "Eureka!". The fact that the powers that be changed the title to 
Sorcerer's 
> Stone actually confused me, because I didn't realize what they 
meant at 
> first....then I realized they must figure those of us here in the 
US don't 
> know our history very well. I'm actually dying to get my hands on 
all the 
> books from the UK!!!!! Oh well,,, PS or SS It's still GREAT!!!!    
> Rebecca (who was soooooo afraid she was strange for being 38 and 
obsessed 
> with a bunch of teenagers....till she found ya'll !!!)
> 
> 
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From bray.262 at osu.edu  Fri Oct 18 12:24:27 2002
From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:24:27 +0000 (EST5EDT)
Subject: Woo-hoo!
Message-ID: <160C4C62C37@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>

Just bought my tickets for the midnight showing of Harry at 
the Arena Grand here in Columbus.

Yay!!!

Now the day will NEVER get here.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 17:05:29 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:05:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Woo-hoo!
In-Reply-To: <160C4C62C37@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <20021018170529.5577.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>


I know!!  I bought mine for the noon show on the 15th.  I cannot wait. I'm going to surprise my kids and take them out of school!  Am I nuts? 
Kristi who is doing a happy dance right now!
 Rachel Bray <bray.262 at osu.edu> wrote:Just bought my tickets for the midnight showing of Harry at 
the Arena Grand here in Columbus.

Yay!!!

Now the day will NEVER get here.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees & Deposits

I read recipes the same way I read science fiction. I 
get to the end and think, 'Well, that's not going to happen.'

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 18 17:28:51 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 18:28:51 +0100
Subject: CoS Music CD query and Florian's
References: <aon81u+npp4@eGroups.com>
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I wrote :- >
> > Can anyone advise me of a UK release date for the CoS music yet?
>
> > Gulplum wrote....
>
> Same as the US, 12th November. At least that's what a HMV poster
> informed me today. :-)
>


*Felicia furrows brow then sighs goomily*.

Ah well, so I get my Chamber of Secrets cd, PC game and my LOTR all-singing
all dancing  4cd set all in the same post from Amazon.co.uk????????  I need
some time management here.

Talking of time management, on my recent trawl through PS on silent dvd at
work I spotted something rather odd.

As Harry and Hagrid come out of Gringotts (or at least the previous shots
were in the bank....) they turn right.  I spotted what I thought was a
windmill on the roof of the building opposite, weird I thought so went back
to investigate.

The *windmill* turns out to be a dinky little set of yellow chairs around a
table with sundaes on it mounted on the roof.  I *think* this could be
Florian Forescue's Ice Cream Parlour as to be seen in, dare I say it, (is
Corgi listening.....) PoA.  There is even a table for eating al fresco
outside the shop.  In case you want to go and check, if you can see the
Daily Prophet sign you have gone too far and have to backspace a little bit.

Felicia
Who can't wait to ride home on her motorbike after CoS, pretending she is
racing Sirius Black!!!! Yaaaay!








From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 20:37:12 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:37:12 -0000
Subject: the floo powder scene
Message-ID: <aoprdo+2aqp@eGroups.com>

I've been re-watching the floo powder scene and I've seen the posts 
about him speaking "Diagon Alley"  too clearly.  This is what I 
think (for what it's worth):  I think he says "Diagon Alley"  too 
quickly.  Remember from the first movie when Hagrid says, "DI-a-gon 
Alley"?  Well, in the trailer, Harry says, "DIAGONAlley"  all run 
together.  Maybe the floo powder doesn't understand what he says, 
and that's why he gets out at the wrong grate.  You think?

Alora




From nplyon at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 18 21:28:42 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The Grey Lady
In-Reply-To: <1034928269.288.24858.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021018212842.58840.qmail@web20905.mail.yahoo.com>

Draco382 said:
> 
> I noticed that too...and was surprised since you'd
> think Grey Lady would be a little more than shocked 
> to see a diary writing back to Harry and then a 
> bright light coming out of it.  Harry would 
> hopefully be a bit wiser than to do this in front of
> people (or ghosts).  But notice how in the first few

> seconds we see a close up shot of Harry's eyes and 
> his parents are reflected in his glasses?  
> Some other people mentioned this as well -- but i'm
> guessing WB combined two scenes (and created some 
> confusion, i must say) for the trailer.  I bet the 
> two scenes were Harry looking at his old photo 
> album and then writing in the diary.  So maybe Grey
> Lady was sitting at the table when Harry was looking

> at the photo album and the scene with the diary 
> coming to life happens when Grey Lady leaves?  
> I'm not sure if this is making sense...but its the
> only thing i can think of.  I don't have my book 
> with me, but as far as i an remember, there isn't 
> anyone with Harry when he writes in the diary first,

> is there?

I think you may be on to something here.  I've watched
that portion of the trailer and the reflection in
Harry's glasses is definitely the picture that is in
the photo album Hagrid gives him at the end of SS/PS. 
I couldn't figure out why this picture was reflected
in his glasses when he's writing in the diary but I
like your explanation for it!

Also, what I found strange about it was that it looked
to me like Harry is sitting in the Gryffindor common
room when he's writing in the diary.  I'd have to go
back and look at it more carefully to be sure but
that's the impression I had.  Why would the Grey Lady
be in the Gryffidor common room?  If I'm not mistaken,
she's the Ravenclaw ghost.  I just couldn't help but
wonder why she shows up in two pivotal scenes from two
different movies, the scene where the trio tries to
get in to see Dumbledore and the scene where Harry
discovers the true nature of the diary.  It just
strikes me as odd.

~Nicole, who is with Richelle.  I also thought I'd
heard that JKR had made specific reference to the Grey
Lady at some point.  Does anyone have any evidence of this?

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From corgi at SFF.net  Fri Oct 18 23:58:26 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:58:26 -0000
Subject: Cast Jason! - would you wear this T-shirt to CoS?
Message-ID: <aoq772+ja34@eGroups.com>

A couple people over in my Cast-Jason-Carter thread on the Sugar 
Quill have expressed interest in wearing 'campaign' T-shirts in lieu 
of being brave enough <GRIN> to pass out flyers to people.

I've got a shirt designed, not to sell of course (too many legal 
problems) but for a small amount of compensation for materials and 
postage, I'd be happy to send out shirts to anyone who'd be willing 
to wear one to the movie on opening weekend.

Any takers?  <eager look>

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 01:36:59 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 01:36:59 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
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Message-ID: <aoqcvr+jgmg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Nia" <penumbra10 at a...> wrote:
> Silvia wrote:
> > I can't see, why it is so important that Daniel's eyes should be
> > green.

...snip...
> > I was just concentrating on how he was acting, how he 
> > impersonified Harry as a character. ..., I was totally happy with 
> Daniel's

NIA Replied:
> 
> I couldn't agree more, Silvia.  Daniel is a perfect Harry and, if 
> Christopher Columbus is to be believed, he's much better and more 
> mature in CoS.  He seems to take a great deal of initiative in 
> preparing for his performances.  He has reread Rowling's books and 
> patterns his protrayals from the canon Harry.  With a young actor 
> that special, who needs green eyes?
> --Nia

The point, I think, is that they can create monsters that aren't
there, they can create an elf, then certainly they can make Harry's
eyes green. I don't think anyone is impling that we dump Daniel in
favor of an actor with green eyes. I think the common belief is KEEP
Daniel but give him green eyes.

According to a comment made by JKR, Harry's eye color is going to be
very significant to the story. So how, his eye color will play a major
role. And I assume the belief is that it's going to be hard to make 4
movies with a blue eyed Daniel, and then suddenly have to figure out
how they are going to resolve the story line.

Personally, I think they can avoid it for a while, and phase it in
when it becomes significant to the story. I heard they tried to get
Daniel to wear green colored contact lenses but they bothered his eyes
too much. Let's remember that he was 11 yr old at the time. Now that
he is older, or at least when the story requires it, he might be able
to wear the green contacts. Also, if the films prove to be
continuously successful, they can afford to use special effect to
color his eyes.

Just some thoughts.

bboy_mn




From corgi at SFF.net  Sat Oct 19 07:25:53 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 07:25:53 -0000
Subject: Florian's, imaginary motorcycles and T-shirts
In-Reply-To: <003101c276cb$d37e3ea0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <aor1e1+c6pv@eGroups.com>

--- Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> Talking of time management... I spotted something rather odd.
> 
> As Harry and Hagrid come out of Gringotts (or at least the previous
> shots were in the bank....) they turn right.  I spotted what I
> thought was a windmill on the roof of the building opposite, weird
> I thought so went back to investigate.
> 
> ...I *think* this could be Florian Forescue's Ice Cream Parlour
> as to be seen in, dare I say it, (is Corgi listening.....) PoA.

Yes, dear, I hear you giggling behind your hand.  And 'racing Sirius',
indeed!  All I've got is a lumbering minivan (or will, if insurance
ever bothers to pay for the theft damage) which I can pretend is the
Millenium Falcon on good days.

Wanna T-shirt to wear with your motorcycle?  Cheap!

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 08:57:06 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 01:57:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The Grey Lady
Message-ID: <20021019085706.15086.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>


Nicole said:

<<<Also, what I found strange about it was that it looked
to me like Harry is sitting in the Gryffindor common
room when he's writing in the diary.  I'd have to go
back and look at it more carefully to be sure but
that's the impression I had.  Why would the Grey Lady
be in the Gryffidor common room?  If I'm not mistaken,
she's the Ravenclaw ghost.  I just couldn't help but
wonder why she shows up in two pivotal scenes from two
different movies, the scene where the trio tries to
get in to see Dumbledore and the scene where Harry
discovers the true nature of the diary.  It just
strikes me as odd.>>>

That is very interesting indeed.  I wonder if Columbus/Kloves had some special insight into the Grey Lady's future involvement in the storyline from JKR herself.  Or, is it just C/K wanting to show off the fetching young actress more throughout the movie?  Perhaps trying to use sex appeal?  Hey, men...here's a character you can (legally) have a crush on!  

Then again, she isn't being too sex appeal-ish in the two scenes you mention.  She's just sitting and studying (except when she conveniently leaves the table Harry is sitting at as he is corresponding with Tom) and being a typical Ravenclaw.  

But I still agree with you, Nicole, that there's something fishy going on here concerning the Grey Lady.

 <<<~Nicole, who is with Richelle.  I also thought I'd
heard that JKR had made specific reference to the Grey
Lady at some point.  Does anyone have any evidence of this?>>>

Only in my mind.  I read somewhere on HP Galleries (may it rest in peace) last year an interview with JKR where she tells us that "Grey Lady" is the Ravenclaw ghost's name, and that we met her right before the sorting in book one (when the ghosts come through the walls, frightening the ickle firsties).  There is also a passage in...Oh, I need to find it, but it's way over there and that would take so much effort...possibly book one where Harry (maybe with R and H) passes a tall witch in the hallway.  I think that is also supposed to be the Grey Lady, but that may be my own interpretation. 

I tried looking this interview up on the Goatpad but came up empty.  I used Grey Lady, Grey, Lady, Ravenclaw ghost, Ravenclaw, ghost as the search words.  I know I read it, Nicole.  I just can't find it.  

~Lilac~ (Nicole, are you still speaking to me after that TBAY fiasco?)  





 

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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 19 19:48:27 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:48:27 -0000
Subject: the floo powder scene
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Message-ID: <aoscub+udn6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> I've been re-watching the floo powder scene and I've seen the posts 
> about him speaking "Diagon Alley"  too clearly.  ...  I think he says
> "Diagon Alley" too quickly.  ...  Maybe the floo powder doesn't 
> understand what he says, and that's why he gets out at the wrong 
> grate.  You think?
> 
> Alora

bboy_mn:
Well, first of all I agree, he does say it a little too clearly. But
there's something we need to remember; sometimes trailer clips are
made especially for the trailers. Other times they use out-takes, or
film footage that's been cut from the movie. So we may not be seeing
the actual final film footage.

I also didn't like the fireplace. You just don't find that many
fireplaces that are big enough to stand up in. Although, they may have
done this, so they didn't have to use a real flame. Since, it's smoke
from the real fire that chokes Harry, they may have changed how he
says it to made up for the absent of real smoke and fire.

My vision of this scene, is a normal size fireplace with a real fire
burning in it. When you throw the powder in, green flames shoot out
the from of the fireplace into the room. It's these green flames and
not the fireplace itself that you step into. This gives you the smoke
you need for Harry to choke on. What are they going to do when Harry
has to use the fireplace at the Dursley's? They certainly aren't going
to have a 'walk in' fireplace in the average Englishman's home.

Maybe, some people have a house warming fireplace and a separate
fireplace for travel. Either way, I didn't find the fireplace very
believeable.

Second point, part of what made Harry get out of the 'Floo stream' is
that, in his thoughts, he asked or wanted to get out. Remember Mrs.
Weasley told him not to get out at the wrong grate. I think this is
what she meant. Don't 'desire' to get out until you see Fred and
George standing outside the fireplace, then 'want' to get out there.
I'm not dicounting the fact that you tell the Floo network where you
want to go. I'm just implying that there are a lot of variables.

So after all that, my real point is, that maybe they came up with some
other excuse for Harry to get out at the wrong fireplace. In the
movie, it might not hinge on what he says, but may be the result of
some other factor.



Just a bunch of random thoughts.

bboy_mn




From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 08:50:41 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 01:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Great Advice, and a call for Eye Color Info
Message-ID: <20021020085041.34593.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>


I found this great post on The Leaky Cauldron's archives refering to last year's movie.  It is helping me get out any vestiges of movie anxiety I have left, and hopefully it will help anyone else out there do the same  So here it is...

<<<Here's a great little post to the HPforGrownUps list from Amanda Lewanski about the First Trailer, who sums it up nicely:
For all of you out there who have memorized the book, and are going crazy trying to place the now-infamous "Screaming Scene" from the trailer--I have a therapy program! 
Amanda's Pre-Release Movie Letdown Avoidance Therapy for Potter Obsessives

   Become familiar with the following definitions: 

      "adapt" -- to make fit (as for a specific or new use) often by modification 
      "adaptation" -- something that is adapted: specif. a composition rewritten into a new form. 



Repeat these definitions aloud until you can say "modification" and "rewritten" without choking, coughing, gagging, passing out, or other generally negative reactions.



   Go to the various HP sites, and follow links to various JKR, screenwriter, etc., interviews, and read again how they are encouraging her input, trying to remain true to her vision, etc. 




   Realize that JKR's vision is a broad one, not necessarily confined to the specific words in the book, no matter how we might have our favorite lines. 




   Watch the trailer again (or view%20the%20stills, for those of you like me who have computer imps who delight in confounding you), and soak up the atmosphere. Realize that in the face of most of our experience with movie adaptations, they seem to have accurately caught the "feel" of the world and the character of its inhabitants. 




   Remember that the special effects are being done by some of the finest effects people on the planet. 




   Remember that the cast is, unbelievably, talented enough to keep the focus on THEM and not on the special effects. 



Okay, are you calmed down now? Because without a doubt there will be major things that have been altered. I'm certain the screaming scene is either the troll or Fluffy, and we all know they're dressed wrong. So what? Some changes must be made for an adaptation to screen. Plot devices are compressed, some things are left out, etc. Because the goal is a film that can translate the STORY told in the book, not the book itself.

I'm approaching the film as a version of a story I love, and I'm not too worried. I do understand that quality pieces (actors, effects, music, etc.) do not necessarily make a quality whole, but JKR's involvement, and now the trailer, seems to indicate that this is going to be really good>>>

Here's the actual archive url:

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2001_06_24_archive.html

Good advice, eh?  Thanks Amanda Lewensky!  I needed to hear that for this year.

Also, does anyone know of any quotes from JKR, Chris Columbus or David Heyman regarding Harry's movie eye color?  I'm trying to do some research on the matter, but I'm having no luck.  I would appreciate any info anyone knows about! 

Thanks ever so much!

 

 



 

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct 20 14:56:16 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:56:16 +0100
Subject: Tickets collected! & Grey Lady
References: <aol5la+f9p5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c27848$d77d80a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Yaaaay!!    Bounces of all like a certifiable lunatic.

I collected my tickets from Warner Village Islington today.   8 p.m. 8
November 2002.  Nice seats too not too near the front.  Memo : must increase
popcorn budget.  Now to book for subsequent performances in the *bigger*
cinema.  If any HPfGU'ers are heading for that performance, let me know!

Secondly, comments about the Grey Lady, who I have seen appear much more in
the CoS trailers that the previous film.  (I remember her being with Nick
when he was commenting on Harry's seeker appointment mostly.)   I think the
CoS trailer might be misleading.  Someone has rightly commented that she is
sat there in the shot where Harry appears to be reading the diary, which
does not seem right as Harry disappears *in some way* into the diary which,
surely she would notice??

Felicia





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 20 19:25:46 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:25:46 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes
References: <aoqcvr+jgmg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <021a01c2786e$7e391100$faa2cdd1@istu757>

bboy_mn writes:

> The point, I think, is that they can create monsters that aren't
> there, they can create an elf, then certainly they can make Harry's
> eyes green. I don't think anyone is impling that we dump Daniel in
> favor of an actor with green eyes. I think the common belief is KEEP
> Daniel but give him green eyes.
>
> According to a comment made by JKR, Harry's eye color is going to be
> very significant to the story. So how, his eye color will play a major
> role. And I assume the belief is that it's going to be hard to make 4
> movies with a blue eyed Daniel, and then suddenly have to figure out
> how they are going to resolve the story line.

I actually can't find a quote where JKR mentions that the specific *color*
of Harry's eyes is significant.  Only that he has his mother's eyes.  If it
were in fact crucial to the story line, I'm sure she'd have said something
about it to Chris Columbus before they released the first movie.

What I find odd is that the calendars and poster books for the first movie
had Daniel's eyes edited to a bright, bright green.  And then the movie came
and they were blue.  Then this year's calendars etc. were released and his
eyes are blue.  (though Rupert's are brown in one picture, what's up with
that?)  Now the third trailer is released and we have some scenes with green
eyes.  What is the deal?

Richelle

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"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Sun Oct 20 19:28:24 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:28:24 +0100
Subject: Daniel's eyes
References: <aoqcvr+jgmg@eGroups.com> <021a01c2786e$7e391100$faa2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <003801c2786e$dba8be80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

The only thing I can suggest is one of the *creatives* somewhere along the
line is colour blind, or is not fan of the books and, therefore, has no idea
how important may/may not be.  I have not inspected my two (different) film
calendars but the front cover of one has blue eyes and the other has Ron and
Harry in the FA with Harry in profile.

Felicia
counting down the days to 8th Nov.......!


> What I find odd is that the calendars and poster books for the first movie
> had Daniel's eyes edited to a bright, bright green.  And then the movie
came
> and they were blue.  Then this year's calendars etc. were released and his
> eyes are blue.  (though Rupert's are brown in one picture, what's up with
> that?)  Now the third trailer is released and we have some scenes with
green
> eyes.  What is the deal?
>
> Richelle
>
>
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> ---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 21:31:18 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:31:18 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <021a01c2786e$7e391100$faa2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> bboy_mn writes:
> 
> > ...edited...
> >
> > According to a comment made by JKR, Harry's eye color is going to
> > be very significant to the story. So how, his eye color will play 
> > a major role. And I assume the belief is that it's going to be 
> > hard to make 4 movies with a blue eyed Daniel, and then suddenly 
> > have to figure out how they are going to resolve the story line.
> 
> I actually can't find a quote where JKR mentions that the specific 
> *color* of Harry's eyes is significant. ...edited...
> Richelle
> 

bboy_mn replies:

In one interview she replied to a question about people/Harry using
their eyes for magic. She replied, "...uuhhhh.... Maybe."

In a BBC interview in the fall of 2001, she had this to say...

Q(BBC): Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in
your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something?
Bit like


A(JKR): Why do you want to know this?

Q: I just vaguely wondered.

A: Why?

Q: Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly
Potter's eyes?

A: Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that. I'm
going to say no more. Very clever. 

http://www.mugglenet.com/bbcinterview1.shtml

So, while it is only implied, there is some significants to Harry's eyes.

bboy_mn




From nplyon at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 21:38:55 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The Grey Lady
In-Reply-To: <1035102994.202.32313.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021020213855.39452.qmail@web20908.mail.yahoo.com>

> That is very interesting indeed.  I wonder if
> Columbus/Kloves had some special insight into the
> Grey Lady's future involvement in the storyline from
> JKR herself.  Or, is it just C/K wanting to show off
> the fetching young actress more throughout the
> movie?  Perhaps trying to use sex appeal?  Hey,
> men...here's a character you can (legally) have a
> crush on!  

You got it precisely.  After I'd watched the trailer a
few times and thought about the presence of the Grey
Lady, I couldn't help but wonder if Kloves and
Columbus know of some future importance she will have
to the story.  Okay, so maybe this isn't as puzzling
to everyone else as it is to myself but at least I've
come up with my own little HP conspiracy and I will be
*very* satisfied if it turns out that the Grey Lady is
of some importance to future plot lines.  :)

She is quite fetching.  I think that, thus far, she is
the closest thing to a sexy female character of age
for the men to admire.  :)  *So* glad HP was written
by a woman!

> 
> Then again, she isn't being too sex appeal-ish in
> the two scenes you mention.  She's just sitting and
> studying (except when she conveniently leaves the
> table Harry is sitting at as he is corresponding
> with Tom) and being a typical Ravenclaw.  

Well, maybe if you like the serious (Sirius) type?

> 
> But I still agree with you, Nicole, that there's
> something fishy going on here concerning the Grey
> Lady.

Thanks.  I'm glad to see that someone else buys my
little pet theory.  :)

> I tried looking this interview up on the Goatpad but
> came up empty.  I used Grey Lady, Grey, Lady,
> Ravenclaw ghost, Ravenclaw, ghost as the search
> words.  I know I read it, Nicole.  I just can't find
> it.  

I appreciate the effort, especially since I was too
lazy at the time to make it on my own.  ;)  Maybe
there's another soul out there who knows where it can
be found?  Please, help!

> 
> ~Lilac~ (Nicole, are you still speaking to me after
> that TBAY fiasco?)  

Rest assured, I enjoyed your TBAY post!  It's just
that hubby and I took some time off this week and,
bless the man, he just doesn't seem to understand that
HP is more important than anything else and he kept
dragging me away from my computer to spend some
quality time with him.  Can you imagine?  :)

~Nicole, who had a nice mini-vacation but missed the
HP universe.  

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From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 20 23:43:49 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:43:49 -0000
Subject: the eye thing
Message-ID: <aovf3l+48in@eGroups.com>

I have mulled this one over and over.  What is it about the eyes?  
The one thing I noticed in the first movie, the flashback to the 
night Harry's parents died, you know what I noticed?  I noticed that 
when Voldemort's wand was pointed at little Harry, Harry just stared 
at him.  He didn't flinch, or flee, he just looked at Voldemort.  
Now, my personal take on this (which may have absolutely nothing to 
it, of course) is that when a person is running from/trying to get 
away or block AK, he is killed.  BUT, when someone (like Harry, for 
instance) faces it head on, there might be a possibility of 
deflecting it.  I know, sounds stupid and I am probably not saying 
this the way I want to.  Maybe, just maybe, when you look right at 
that person who is trying to AK you, you can somehow deflect it.  I 
don't know.....but if you look at baby Harry, he's staring right at 
Voldemort.  There has to be something there.  Just my idiotic two 
cents worth.

Alora




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 01:38:34 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:38:34 -0000
Subject: Grey Lady in trailer #1
Message-ID: <aovlqq+r0bi@eGroups.com>

I went back and watched the first trailer because I remembered 
seeing the Grey Lady in that one, too.  The scene moves fast, but 
you see Harry still sitting at the same table, I think, and her 
walking past.  To me, it looks as though she is leaving.  As she 
walks past, I see Harry in the background holding a quill over a 
book (the diary?).  Maybe the scene we see in this last trailer is 
just before she gets up to leave Harry alone at the table.  My guess 
is that Harry is sitting there, looking through the album of his 
parents, then puts it aside and picks up the diary, to see how it 
works.  Then, after a bit, the Grey Lady gets up and leaves.  Does 
any of that make sense?  ;)

Alora




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 21 02:09:48 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:09:48 -0000
Subject: the eye thing
In-Reply-To: <aovf3l+48in@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aovnlc+7efv@eGroups.com>

Alora mused:
>>>Maybe, just maybe, when you look right at that person who is trying
to AK you, you can somehow deflect it.  I don't know.....but if you
look at baby Harry, he's staring right at Voldemort.  There has to be
something there.  Just my idiotic two cents worth.<<<


Actually, that was my favorite part of the movie.  The way Baby Harry
looked at Voldemort's outstretched wand.  So cheeky almost.  He seemed
to be taunting him.  I just sat there wondering how they got that baby
to look like that.  It was so adorable yet so fierce.

I have to wonder whether JKR approved that Baby Harry's piercing look,
or it was just for the movie's sake.  Either way I still loved it. :)

Melody




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Mon Oct 21 02:15:19 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:15:19 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757>

I (Richelle) wrote:

> > I actually can't find a quote where JKR mentions that the specific
> > *color* of Harry's eyes is significant. ...edited...
> > Richelle
> >
> bboy_mn replies:
>
> In one interview she replied to a question about people/Harry using
> their eyes for magic. She replied, "...uuhhhh.... Maybe."
>
> In a BBC interview in the fall of 2001, she had this to say...
> Q(BBC): Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in
> your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something?
> Bit like.
> A(JKR): Why do you want to know this?
> Q: I just vaguely wondered.
> A: Why?
> Q: Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly
> Potter's eyes?
> A: Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that. I'm
> going to say no more. Very clever.
> http://www.mugglenet.com/bbcinterview1.shtml
>
> So, while it is only implied, there is some significants to Harry's eyes.

Err, yes, I certainly agree there's significance about Harry's eyes.  And
the fact that he has his mother's eyes.  What I said was I didn't know of a
specific reference to the *color* of Harry's eyes being significant.  In
other words is it important that Harry has "his mother's eyes" or "his
mother's *green* eyes."

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Mon Oct 21 02:23:31 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:23:31 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: the eye thing
References: <aovnlc+7efv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00bd01c278a8$da46b120$899fcdd1@istu757>

> Alora mused:
> >>>Maybe, just maybe, when you look right at that person who is trying
> to AK you, you can somehow deflect it.  I don't know.....but if you
> look at baby Harry, he's staring right at Voldemort.  There has to be
> something there.  Just my idiotic two cents worth.<<<
>
> Actually, that was my favorite part of the movie.  The way Baby Harry
> looked at Voldemort's outstretched wand.  So cheeky almost.  He seemed
> to be taunting him.  I just sat there wondering how they got that baby
> to look like that.  It was so adorable yet so fierce.
>
> I have to wonder whether JKR approved that Baby Harry's piercing look,
> or it was just for the movie's sake.  Either way I still loved it. :)
>
> Melody

I loved it too.  It was almost an "I dare you to try and kill me" look.
However, I don't think it could have anything to do with Harry not dying,
because even Voldemort admited that James faced him and fought like a man,
straight backed and proud and all that.  On the other hand, if Voldemort had
any human left in him (which he probably didn't), a baby looking at you like
that could make him hesitate before AKing him.  And a hesitation could make
it not work, but I still don't think that's it.

Richelle

****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Oct 21 17:31:30 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:31:30 +0100
Subject: Daniel's eyes
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com> <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <002401c27927$b1bc7a80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I suspect that, when it comes down to it, they will tinker with Harry's eyes
as and when they need to.  Until then we just have to sit on our hands, or
chew our nails depending on how rigid your adherence to canon is ay any
given time ;-))

Felicia
brief but relevant and to the point


> I (Richelle) wrote:
>
> > > I actually can't find a quote where JKR mentions that the specific
> > > *color* of Harry's eyes is significant. ...edited...
> > > Richelle
> > >
> > bboy_mn replies:
> >
> > In one interview she replied to a question about people/Harry using
> > their eyes for magic. She replied, "...uuhhhh.... Maybe."
> >
> > In a BBC interview in the fall of 2001, she had this to say...
> > Q(BBC): Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in
> > your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something?
> > Bit like.
> > A(JKR): Why do you want to know this?
> > Q: I just vaguely wondered.
> > A: Why?
> > Q: Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly
> > Potter's eyes?
> > A: Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that. I'm
> > going to say no more. Very clever.
> > http://www.mugglenet.com/bbcinterview1.shtml
> >
> > So, while it is only implied, there is some significants to Harry's
eyes.
>
> Err, yes, I certainly agree there's significance about Harry's eyes.  And
> the fact that he has his mother's eyes.  What I said was I didn't know of
a
> specific reference to the *color* of Harry's eyes being significant.  In
> other words is it important that Harry has "his mother's eyes" or "his
> mother's *green* eyes."
>
> Richelle
>
>
****************************************************************************
> ****
> "May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
> ---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
>
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> ****
>
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From joneses at isni.net  Mon Oct 21 21:16:36 2002
From: joneses at isni.net (Erika J)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:16:36 -0700
Subject: Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell - HELLO
In-Reply-To: <002401c27927$b1bc7a80$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com>
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Just saying hello to everyone, I am new here. I was on the HPFGU group for 
a while and decided to see what this group is all about. Been a big Harry 
Potter fan both books and movie from the beginning. Hope to be able to 
contribute and join in on the discussions! To start, got this news today 
from my PEOPLE daily email subscription, hope I am not repeating any 
previous posts:

Even More Harry Potter Than Expected?
Good news for Harry Potter fans: Three new titles in J.K.
Rowling's boy-wizard book series have been registered in the
UK Patent Office, the Scotsman newspaper reports. Last
month, Rowling said she was near completing the long-awaited
fifth installment, "Harry Potter and the Order of the
Phoenix." She has long stated that there would only be two
more after that. But the Scotsman reports that Hollywood
studio Warner Bros. (which, like PEOPLE, is part of AOL Time
Warner), has registered three more Harry Potter titles as
trademarks, raising the possibility of an eighth volume, at
least. A Reuters search of the UK Patent Office
trademark database confirmed the extra titles as "Harry
Potter and the Alchemist's Cell," "Harry Potter and the
Chariots of Light" and "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of
Furmat." The news service does point out, however, that
the extra titles do not necessarily indicate plans for an
eighth volume or if they were registered as possible
alternative names for the remaining Potter books. Warner
Bros. could not immediately be reached for comment. The
studio registered the titles in April 2000, shortly before
the publication of the fourth book, "Harry Potter and the
Goblet of Fire," whose title was also filed at the same
time, according to the records. Warners reportedly filed
"Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" for registration
as a trademark in October 2000. Meanwhile, the second
film in the series, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of
Secrets" opens in Britain and the U.S. on Nov. 15.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 18:24:31 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:24:31 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ap1gov+psna@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> I (Richelle) wrote:
> 
> > > I actually can't find a quote where JKR mentions that the
> > > specific *color* of Harry's eyes is significant. ...edited...
> > > Richelle
> > >

> > bboy_mn replies:
> > ...edited...
> >
> > In a BBC interview in the fall of 2001, she had this to say...
> > ...edited...
> > Q: Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly
> > Potter's eyes?
> > A: Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that.
> > I'm going to say no more. Very clever.
> > http://www.mugglenet.com/bbcinterview1.shtml
> >
> > So, while it is only implied, there is some significants to 
> > Harry's eyes.
> 
> Err, yes, I certainly agree there's significance about Harry's eyes. 
> And the fact that he has his mother's eyes.  What I said was I 
> didn't know of a specific reference to the *color* of Harry's eyes 
> being significant.  In other words is it important that Harry has 
> "his mother's eyes" or "his mother's *green* eyes."
> 
> Richelle

bboy_mn replies:
I think maybe you are over analyzing this.

Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean? 

Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes. 

If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes then what
is it? 

Other than color, what factor or characteristic could he share with
his mother that would be significant enough for people to comment that
he has his mother's eyes? 

You are right, color is not specifically stated in the BBC Q&A, but
what else could it be?

Just some thoughts.

bboy_mn




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Oct 21 18:31:22 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:31:22 +0100
Subject: Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell 
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com> <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757> <5.0.2.1.0.20021021141138.009f8ba0@mail.isni.net>
Message-ID: <00cd01c27930$0eb79aa0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Welcome!

I don't suppose the story is true, and if it was they would change the
titles sharpish now.

I think, personally, that the titles are fun and I wonder how they would fit
in with our current range of HP canon titles.  After all, Harry is meant to
be going somewhere previously mentioned in the books, and Egypt seemed a
promising location then.  It would make a nice place to shoot on location at
longas you don't have to take a whole school of kids with you!

. A Reuters search of the UK Patent Office
> trademark database confirmed the extra titles as "Harry
> Potter and the Alchemist's Cell," "Harry Potter and the
> Chariots of Light" and "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of
> Furmat."





From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 21 18:36:27 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:36:27 -0000
Subject: Grey Lady in trailer #1
In-Reply-To: <aovlqq+r0bi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap1hfb+spmm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> I went back and watched the first trailer because I remembered 
> seeing the Grey Lady in that one, too.  The scene moves fast, but 
> you see Harry still sitting at the same table, I think, and her 
> walking past.  To me, it looks as though she is leaving.  As she 
> walks past, I see Harry in the background holding a quill over a 
> book (the diary?).  Maybe the scene we see in this last trailer is 
> just before she gets up to leave Harry alone at the table.  My guess 
> is that Harry is sitting there, looking through the album of his 
> parents, then puts it aside and picks up the diary, to see how it 
> works.  Then, after a bit, the Grey Lady gets up and leaves.  Does 
> any of that make sense?  ;)
> 
> Alora

bboy_mn commnets again:

As I pointed out before, you have to be very careful about drawing
conclusions from a movie trailer. Some scenes in some trailers aren't
even in the movie, they are scenes constructed specifically for the
trailer. Or, they are footage that has been cut/dropped from the film.
Sometimes unrelated bits and pieces are strung together to create an
impression of the movie, but in the actually movie, two consecutive
events in the trailer could occur (in movie time) hours apart.

I think the trailer tries to make us believe that Harry is sitting at
the table reading the diary, but we know from carefull analysis that
he is more likely to be looking at his parents photo album. 

So I think they have taken unrelated scenes and strung them together
to  create the impression that Harry is reading the dairy. Can't prove
it until the movie comes out, but I think the actual scene will play
out differenly than it does in the trailer.

just some thoughts.

bboy_mn




From kdavison at shreve.net  Mon Oct 21 18:37:15 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:37:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes
References: <ap1gov+psna@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a001c27930$e1a56820$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Well, I personally think that they *are* talking about the color when they
say he has his mother's eyes, and I myself just ignore that Daniel's eyes
are blue, LOL, but I do know that it is possible that they are talking about
other features, like the shape, or just the way they "look" at other
people...  I have brown/green eyes (depending on what I'm wearing) and my
eyes have always been complimented by perfect strangers, for as long as I
can remember, not because of the color, but because of the shape.  They are
pretty, LOL, even though I feel weird saying so, I do have to admit, they
are my best feature.  And I passed my eye "shape" onto my two boys, ages 5
and 2, who constantly get compliments on their eyes just as I did.  One of
them has bright blue eyes, and the other has grey eyes, but many many people
have commented on how they have "my eyes"...  So it's very possible that the
color won't be important (although I agree with you that the color is likely
to be what the other people are talking about.)
:-)  Davison


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <bboy_mn at yahoo.com>>
> Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean?
.> Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes.
> If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes then what is
it?
> Other than color, what factor or characteristic could he share with
> his mother that would be significant enough for people to comment that
> he has his mother's eyes?
> You are right, color is not specifically stated in the BBC Q&A, but
> what else could it be?






From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Mon Oct 21 20:04:14 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:04:14 -0500
Subject: Rowling OKs Potter Sequel
Message-ID: <3DB45DBE.5080708@kingwoodcable.com>

I just read this in this week's Scifi Weekly.

Enjoy!
Katze

-----

Rowling OKs Potter Sequel

Chris Columbus, director of the upcoming sequel film Harry Potter and the 
Chamber of Secrets, told SCI FI Wire that Potter author J.K. Rowling trusted the 
production team enough that she kept her participation in the project to a 
minimum. "Jo was involved with the script again," Columbus said in an interview. 
"As always, she has a lot of information that none of us have, in terms of where 
the characters are going and in terms of what's going to happen to them. She's 
also got the backgrounds of all these characters in this world in hundreds of 
notebooks."

Columbus added, "So we can basically call her or e-mail her and find out any 
little piece of information we need. That relationship still exists. I think she 
trusts us a lot, so her involvement this time was actually a little less [than 
on the first film based on her best-selling books]. On the first film [which 
Columbus directed as well] she only came to the set one time, and she didn't 
make it to the set of Chamber of Secrets. But we've kept in touch, and she just 
came in for a script meeting on The Prisoner of Azkaban." Chamber of Secrets 
opens Nov. 15; Prisoner of Azkaban, the third Potter film, is in preproduction.





From joneses at isni.net  Tue Oct 22 00:18:49 2002
From: joneses at isni.net (Erika J)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:18:49 -0700
Subject: Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell
In-Reply-To: <00cd01c27930$0eb79aa0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com>
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Here is another article regarding future titles: this is taken from BBC 
Newsround:

JK Rowling and her agents have categorically denied that an eighth Harry 
Potter adventure is planned.

Reports in UK newspapers on Sunday and Monday had claimed that these were 
the titles for the remaining two Harry Potter adventures and a "secret" 
eighth book:

     * Harry Potter and The Pyramids of Furmat
     * Harry Potter and the Chariots of Light
     * Harry Potter and The Alchemist's Cell

But JK Rowling, speaking from Edinburgh, has exclusively told Newsround: 
"No one, literally no one, not in my family or anybody, knows the titles to 
Book Six or Seven.

"And I'm going to keep it that way for now."

No eighth adventure

Are you anything to do with this, Dobby?
And a spokesman from the Christopher Little Literary Agency confirmed that 
the author is only planning seven books.

"There is absolutely no truth in reports that JK Rowling is planning an 
eighth Harry Potter adventure, or that these are the titles of the 
remaining books to be published."

How did the rumours start?

Maybe Draco's behind the rumours and confusion
The false titles seem to have emerged in early 2000.

Someone in America - we don't know who - appears to have made up the three 
names and registered them along with Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire.

(At that time, the fourth book hadn't been published and the title was 
still a secret).

Later in 2000, all four titles were transferred to Warner Bros - although 
it's not clear why this happened.

Seven years at Hogwarts

Harry's set for seven adventures
The misunderstanding that these were the names of the new Harry Potter 
books took place when journalists checked what names were owned by Warner Bros.

Those journalists assumed (wrongly) that these must be unpublished titles.

JK Rowling has said in the past that the whole Harry Potter saga fits 
neatly into seven books, one for each of Harry's years at Hogwarts School 
of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

And if she ever did write an eighth book, then it wouldn't be another 
adventure, but a book for charity which would be the encyclopedia of the 
Harry Potter world.

At the moment JK Rowling is putting the finishing touches to the fifth book 
Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix.

The film of Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets will be released next 
month.


At 07:31 PM 10/21/02 +0100, you wrote:
>Welcome!
>
>I don't suppose the story is true, and if it was they would change the
>titles sharpish now.


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct 22 02:38:01 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:38:01 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes
References: <ap1gov+psna@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <020a01c27974$0fa60160$2ca0cdd1@istu757>


> bboy_mn replies:
> I think maybe you are over analyzing this.
>
> Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean?
>
> Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes.
>
> If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes then what
> is it?
>
> Other than color, what factor or characteristic could he share with
> his mother that would be significant enough for people to comment that
> he has his mother's eyes?
>
> You are right, color is not specifically stated in the BBC Q&A, but
> what else could it be?

Okay, I am really having trouble making myself understood here.  I'm getting
those familiar blank looks that I get when something goes over my students'
heads.

One more try.  I know the people are probably referring to the color of his
eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes them special?  Would it
really matter if in the movie they changed it to him having his mother's
*blue* eyes?  The color is what people notice, probably.  And JKR uses that
to draw our attention to it (over and over).  But do all people with green
eyes have magical powers that others don't?  Or does the color matter at
all?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?!?!

Richelle




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct 22 03:14:45 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:14:45 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <020a01c27974$0fa60160$2ca0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ap2fr5+d4c3@eGroups.com>

Richelle Votaw wrote:
> 
><snip> I know the people are probably referring to the color of his
> eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes them special?  
Would it
> really matter if in the movie they changed it to him having his 
mother's
> *blue* eyes?  The color is what people notice, probably.  And JKR 
uses that
> to draw our attention to it (over and over).  But do all people 
with green
> eyes have magical powers that others don't?  Or does the color 
matter at
> all?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?!?!

Me, me, me!

I do!!! I'm a teacher too and I understand exactly what you are 
saying!  Yours was precisely my idea!  If Daniel Radcliffe had 
beautiful hazel eyes, as far as the movie was concerned, those 
would "be his mother's eyes."  I think JKR used the bright green 
color in the books as an indicator that his eyes were distinctive.
If you noticed in the Mirror of Erised scene from PS (the book, not 
the film), many of his relatives had his green eyes. (Chap. 12) I am 
certain if the eye color were that much of an issue, JKR would have 
insisted that they CG the color in.  As I said previously, Daniel 
has wonderfully expressive eyes, and, if I'm not mistaken, his are 
the only eyes we're allowed to see close up with that lovely darker 
blue 'halo-effect.'  This makes them distinctive. And, as far as the 
films are concerned, those will be, more than likely, "his mother's 
eyes."
 The filmmakers have been gracious enough to involve JKR as closely 
as she wishes to be. (She has been given creative control, let's not 
forget)  SHE loved the film, SHE loved Daniel, SHE said nary a word 
about the anti-canon (gasp) blue eyes.  WE all need to take a few 
deep breaths, resign ourselves that the film is not going to be the 
book verbatum, let this go, cheer up, and find some other topic to 
discuss.
--Nia




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 07:32:30 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:32:30 +0100
Subject: Daniel's eyes - agreement
References: <ap1gov+psna@eGroups.com> <020a01c27974$0fa60160$2ca0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <000e01c2799d$332e64a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I follow your argument Richelle.  It is an interesting and when it is
pointed out,a very simple but effective idea.

People may refer to eye colour but that may not be too important in the long
run, hence Columbus et al not making a big deal of it in the film.

Felicia

>
> > bboy_mn replies:
> > I think maybe you are over analyzing this.
> >
> > Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean?
> >
> > Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes.
> >
> > If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes then what
> > is it?
> >
> > Other than color, what factor or characteristic could he share with
> > his mother that would be significant enough for people to comment that
> > he has his mother's eyes?
> >
> > You are right, color is not specifically stated in the BBC Q&A, but
> > what else could it be?
>
> Okay, I am really having trouble making myself understood here.  I'm
getting
> those familiar blank looks that I get when something goes over my
students'
> heads.
>
> One more try.  I know the people are probably referring to the color of
his
> eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes them special?  Would it
> really matter if in the movie they changed it to him having his mother's
> *blue* eyes?  The color is what people notice, probably.  And JKR uses
that
> to draw our attention to it (over and over).  But do all people with green
> eyes have magical powers that others don't?  Or does the color matter at
> all?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?!?!
>
> Richelle
>
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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 10:18:53 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Daniel's eyes (last time I'll mention it -- promise!)
Message-ID: <20021022101853.85847.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com>


Richelle said:

<<<One more try.  I know the people are probably referring to the color of 
his eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes them special?  Would 
it really matter if in the movie they changed it to him having his 
mother's *blue* eyes?  The color is what people notice, probably.  And JKR uses 
that to draw our attention to it (over and over).  But do all people with 
green eyes have magical powers that others don't?  Or does the color matter 
at all?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?!?!>>>

There, there, Richelle <pats her arm>   I used to get blank stares from my students as well.  But I do know what you're talking about.  Who cares whether he has Lily's green or Lily's blue eyes, as long as it's consistent, right?

But that's just the thing...his eye color _hasn't_ been consistent.  For instance, in the first movie, his eyes looked very blue, but in some pre-release pictures, his eyes are very green (the one I'm thinking of is where Harry is with Oliver Wood holding the snitch for the first time.  Here's a link to that picture...scroll down the page: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2001_06_24_archive.html )  Then, for the second movie, everything up until this third trailer has Harry's eyes being very blue (posters, first 2 trailers, etc), but in the third trailer, his eye color is green in most of the scenes, and this is according to Melissa A. at Leaky Cauldron..."Two quick things about the trailer. One, in most shots, Dan's eyes have been changed to rather bright green..." (10/15/02 on the main page still at www.the-leaky-cauldron.org ).  I couldn't see the changes in eye color myself (it all looked blue to me), but that's because I'm working with an old monitor.  All I am asking for is a little bit of consistency, Mr. Columbus!

Please don't misunderstand...I absolutely *adore* Daniel Radcliffe as Harry, and I will be just as happy with Harry's blue eyes, just like his mother's blue eyes... as long as the director chooses one color and sticks with it!  It's almost as if they didn't think fans would catch that --but ha HA!  They've got to get up pretty early in the morning to fool these die-hard Potter fans at HP4GU!  Well, at least me, anyways...

I put a little bug in Leaky Cauldron's ear about this to see if they could get a definitive answer from Chris Columbus when they interview him (can you believe that TLC is hitting the big time!  Good on them!).  But, I might be the only one that this bothers, so they may just toss my email out like a plate of moldy tripe.  Oh, well...at least I did my part.  Shutting up now!

~Lilac, who is jealous that Richelle has less than 25 students in her class, because when I taught first grade, I rarely had less than 25!




 

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From m.bockermann at t-online.de  Tue Oct 22 12:09:50 2002
From: m.bockermann at t-online.de (m.bockermann at t-online.de)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:09:50 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
References: <1035278618.311.29724.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <006001c279c4$a13744e0$88909fc1@computer>

Hi listies!


As far as I know (means: I read it somewhere but I don't remember the URL),
originally they intended to equip Daniel with *green* contact lenses, so the
color would follow canon. They actually made some photos with him wearing
them.

But it turned out that Daniel didn't take well to the lenses, he had a lot
of troubles with them. So, instead of forcing a minor into discomfort and
possible eye damage, they let go of this plan. They probably thought fans
would not notice or care so much. In fact, I can understand and even support
the decision not to force contact lenses onto a child if it doesn't get
along with it. We do know the color of his eyes and why torture him?

As to why they didn't color his eyes on the finished film? I guess, though
the special effects people can do tremendous things, recoloring his eyes in
every take, from every different angle so they would look *natural* (and not
like some kind of red glowing like in Bram Stroker's Dracula) would have
been both to expensive and to complicated.

JKR confirmed that the eye color was very important and I am sure that it is
the fact that it is (rather rare) color green will be important. Either they
hope that Daniel will get along with them better when he is older or they
plan to hire a new actor sometimes before that crucial revelation. Even if
they keep apart from canon on this one however, I believe the kids health
still takes precedence, so I am willing to use my imagination.

Greetings,
Ethanol





From primroseburrows at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 12:02:21 2002
From: primroseburrows at yahoo.com (Primrose Burrows)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:  Daniel's eyes (last time I'll mention it -- promise!)
In-Reply-To: <20021022101853.85847.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021022120221.42880.qmail@web12906.mail.yahoo.com>


After looking at this, I'm very, very happy that Danny's not wearing the green contacts.  His eyes are his best feature, and to change them, unless it was an absolute necessity to the story, would be a detriment to him and to the film aesthetically.
 
I think it would be like changing Elijah Wood's eyes in Lord of the Rings.
  
It would seem that in canon Harry has his mother's eyes due to magic, and not necessarily eye color.
 
To hire another actor just because he has green eyes would be counterproductive and just...wrong.
 
But then I'm a big fan of Danny's.

primrose
 Lilac <lilac_bearry at yahoo.com> wrote:For instance, in the first movie, his eyes looked very blue, but in some pre-release pictures, his eyes are very green (the one I'm thinking of is where Harry is with Oliver Wood holding the snitch for the first time.  Here's a link to that picture...scroll down the page: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2001_06_24_archive.html ) 


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 22 12:35:16 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:35:16 +0000
Subject: Harry's eyes--Lily's eyes
Message-ID: <F139pM5C6Ny0YuoIDgY00006d8c@hotmail.com>

bboy wrote:


Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean?

Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes.

If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes then what
is it?

Other than color, what factor or characteristic could he share with
his mother that would be significant enough for people to comment that
he has his mother's eyes?

You are right, color is not specifically stated in the BBC Q&A, but
what else could it be?

Me:
It's natural to assume that Harry's "having his mother's eyes" refers to 
their colour, and the assumption is probably correct, but would't it be just 
like Rowling to make the SIGNIFICANT connection something entirely 
different?



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From gina_d at mland.gr  Tue Oct 22 13:27:29 2002
From: gina_d at mland.gr (gina_malfoy)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:27:29 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <020a01c27974$0fa60160$2ca0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ap3jo1+97u0@eGroups.com>

Richelle wrote:

> Okay, I am really having trouble making myself understood here.  
I'm getting
> those familiar blank looks that I get when something goes over my 
students'
> heads.
> 
> One more try.  I know the people are probably referring to the 
color of his
> eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes them special?  
Would it
> really matter if in the movie they changed it to him having his 
mother's
> *blue* eyes?  The color is what people notice, probably.  And JKR 
uses that
> to draw our attention to it (over and over).  But do all people 
with green
> eyes have magical powers that others don't?  Or does the color 
matter at
> all?  Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?!?!
> 
> Richelle


I usually lurk, but I felt like posting this time. I agree with those 
on the list who said that if the colour of his eyes was of some 
special importance, they would CG the colour in. But what you said, 
Richelle, made me think of something else. I think that maybe Lily 
had special eyes, not because of the colour, but because of her 
ability to perform magic with them (if that is possible), and Harry 
having his mother's eyes means that he inherited that ability as 
well, IMO. So to answer your questions, I would say that I don't 
believe that the colour matters at all, but I suppose there are 
people whose eyes have magical powers and Harry happens to be one of 
them. Maybe I'm way off base, but that's the explanation I could 
think of about why they didn't change Dan's eye colour in the
movie.

Gina





From helevision at yahoo.com.au  Tue Oct 22 14:22:10 2002
From: helevision at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Helen=20M?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:22:10 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <1035278618.311.29724.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021022142210.28967.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com>


 Nia wrote:
>WE all need to take a few deep breaths, resign ourselves that the film is not going >to be the book verbatum, let this go, cheer up, and find some other topic to 
>discuss.
>--Nia

Thankyou!

I for one was getting heartily sick of this discussion. And I agree; if JKR didn't care, neither do I.

Thanks Nia and Richelle. I really hope we can drop this now, or we'll need to make a new group: HPFGU-Harryseyecolour. ;)

Out of Lurk-dom for two minutes...

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From Dar20 at aol.com  Tue Oct 22 14:50:23 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:50:23 -0000
Subject: Release Dates, Advance Sales, and Disneyland?
Message-ID: <ap3ojf+3va9@eGroups.com>

Hi, there,

I see folks on here mentioning seeing the movie Nov. 8.  Is that the 
UK release date?  

Anyways, we're going to be at Disneyland Nov. 15, and I was wondering 
if anyone knows when they will start advance sales of movie tix at 
Downtown Disney.  Anyone here from that area?  Any info is 
appreciated!

Thanks,
Dar




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Tue Oct 22 15:17:31 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:17:31 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Release Dates, Advance Sales, and Disneyland?
References: <ap3ojf+3va9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB56C0B.CE1FCD21@ka.reg.uci.edu>

hiya,
well, im in that area (orange county, anyway) --

at downtowndisney.com, they say for more movie info to call this number:  (714) 769-4262.

also, check amctheatres.com to see if they have any info.


That's all the info I can find at the moment -
hope that helps in some way.

cheers,
jenny


Darlene wrote:

> Hi, there,
>
> I see folks on here mentioning seeing the movie Nov. 8.  Is that the
> UK release date?
>
> Anyways, we're going to be at Disneyland Nov. 15, and I was wondering
> if anyone knows when they will start advance sales of movie tix at
> Downtown Disney.  Anyone here from that area?  Any info is
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Dar
>
>




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 17:22:48 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:22:48 +0100
Subject: Daniel's eyes - Sniff
References: <20021022142210.28967.qmail@web21304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c279ef$a4fa31c0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Hey come on Helen don't just come out of lurkdom to register a protest.  Be
constructive, give everyone a new topic of conversation.   Just appearing to
disappear again is cheating and not making much of an effort.

Felicia
off to type up her next topic for HPfGUs

>
>  Nia wrote:
> >WE all need to take a few deep breaths, resign ourselves that the film is
not going >to be the book verbatum, let this go, cheer up, and find some
other topic to
> >discuss.
> >--Nia
>
> Thankyou!
>
> I for one was getting heartily sick of this discussion. And I agree; if
JKR didn't care, neither do I.
>
> Thanks Nia and Richelle. I really hope we can drop this now, or we'll need
to make a new group: HPFGU-Harryseyecolour. ;)
>
> Out of Lurk-dom for two minutes...
>
> Helen :)
>
>
>
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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct 22 18:01:33 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:01:33 -0000
Subject: Slideshow posted at TLC
Message-ID: <ap43pt+9vo3@eGroups.com>

  To help us ease away from our preoccupation with Daniel's eyes, how 
about a spirited discussion of the slideshow posted today at TLC 
(linked from RupertGrint.net)  There are quite a few of Daniel 
looking pensive, charming and thoughtful, and a lovely pair of head 
shots of Rupert and one of Alan Rickman looking positively wicked.  
Bonnie Wright's pose is one for speculation and debate.  Oh, do let's 
chat about something else.  (The first one to mention Dan's eye color 
is a Norwegian Ridgeback!)
--Nia




From kokobreen at juno.com  Tue Oct 22 18:07:06 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:07:06 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Slideshow posted at TLC
Message-ID: <20021022.140723.7783.443736@webmail6.nyc.untd.com>

I'd love to discuss it as soon as I can access TLC again!

Christine

---------- "Nia" <penumbra10 at ameritech.net> writes:

From: "Nia" <penumbra10 at ameritech.net>
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Slideshow posted at TLC
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:01:33 -0000

  To help us ease away from our preoccupation with Daniel's eyes, how 
about a spirited discussion of the slideshow posted today at TLC 
(linked from RupertGrint.net)  There are quite a few of Daniel 
looking pensive, charming and thoughtful, and a lovely pair of head 
shots of Rupert and one of Alan Rickman looking positively wicked.  
Bonnie Wright's pose is one for speculation and debate.  Oh, do let's 
chat about something else.  (The first one to mention Dan's eye color 
is a Norwegian Ridgeback!)
--Nia



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 18:13:02 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:13:02 +0100
Subject: Tea with the Slytherins anyone?
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I rather like the look of the Slytherin Common Room, rather palatial if a
little gloomy, not the place to enjoy having tea!.  Not a bit we have seen
on any of the trailers so far either.

Felicia
*still finishing her new post topic...*





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 18:29:43 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:29:43 +0100
Subject: Chez Dumbledore
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com> <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <002b01c279f8$fdefd9c0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I know he works hard fighting the evil Voldemort and helping Harry grow up,
but I rather envy Albus Dumbledore his office, as seen at TLC.  Just a few
books a desk and some erm... ladders.

Cheers me up a bit after I found someone, unbelievably, is already flogging
CoS Postcards on ebay i.e. the ones due to be given away FREE at major
cinema chains when the film opens....

Felicia





From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 19:07:20 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:07:20 -0000
Subject: Daniel's eyes
In-Reply-To: <020a01c27974$0fa60160$2ca0cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <ap47l8+pbpt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> 
> > bboy_mn replies:
> > I think maybe you are over analyzing this.
> >
> > Harry has his mother's eyes. What could that mean?
> >
> > Harry has green eyes; his mother has green eyes.
> >
> > If it's not the eye color that gives him his mother's eyes than
> > what  is it?
> >
> > ...edited...
-end bboy_mn org-

Richelle replied:
> Okay, I am really having trouble making myself understood here. 
> 
> One more try.  I know the people are probably referring to the 
> color of his eyes and Lily's.  But is it the color that makes 
> them special?  
> 
> Richelle

bboy_mn finally gets it:

Ok, after reading your response and the others, I think I understand
what you mean. In a sense, you are asking, 'Is there something
critical about the color green, or is the critical factor that the
color match his mothers? Alternately, is it related to some abstact
feature of his mother's eyes?'

Definitely, there is something in common about their eyes, but the
color may be incidental to the book. JKR may have simply chosen green
because it is an uncommon color, and the true 'value' of the eyes is
related to  the ability to do magic, or whatever. I'm pretty sure I'm
on the right track here.

But, as I said when I originally responded, I don't think in matters
right now. I do think it matter and they shouldn't ignore it
completely, it just doesn't matter at the moment. In most of the shots
in the movie, you aren't focusing on his eyes and even if you were the
shot isn't clear enough to make a distinction. Others pointed out that
in a few key very close up face shots, the eyes were somewhat green. 

This leads me back to what I said before, I think they can worry about
it later when it becomes critical to the plot. At that time, they can
go with the green contacts or the CGI and incorperate it into the movie.

Personally, I think it will be important for them to be GREEN when the
time comes in order to be consistent with the book. The color green is
very much emphasized in the book. Although, I still say the movie can
blow it off, until the movies in which it is a critical factor.

bboy_mn






From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 19:14:46 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:14:46 +0100
Subject: A post NOT mentioning the subject-that-must-not-be-named.......!!!!!!!
References: <aov7b6+fqme@eGroups.com> <009401c278a7$b7664680$899fcdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <005e01c279ff$48e231c0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

<Felicia stand up and clears throat>

A few passing comments about *diagonalley* and Harry speaking too clearly
for most listers set me thinking about the Weasley's fireplace, the size of
which is disputed, or at least not liked overmuch.

This is no ordinary fireplace this, the Weasley's have what I would call a
very substantial and old Hearth rather that a mere fireplace.  [Hearth :
Dic. def. "the floor of a fireplace, particularly one that extends into the
room"....]

Now, while the hearth does not, for the literally minded (and there are
several lurking believe me....) extend into the room as such, it looks as
thought it could have been in situ for many generations which would make
sense if the Weasley family were a long established pureblood wizarding
family (they must be, Draco never flings the mudblood insult at Ron, his
worst barb at Ron is about poverty).  Such hearths would be back in the UK
at least ;-) to medieval times when many homes had large fireplaces, it
being the only warmth (no I am NOT going to discuss old British history I
have ironing to do....)

While I suppose an ordinary, bog standard, regulation Victorian fireplace
would have sufficed, the current Burrow fireplace strikes me as infinitely
more cinematic, and it fits in very well with what I have seen of the
Burrow, so far.  It is certainly not what I expected, but it is great Fun
nonetheless.

Felicia
still irked about the postcards.....





From itzregina at hanson.net  Tue Oct 22 20:07:23 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:07:23 -0000
Subject: Daniel to be on TRL any minute now!
Message-ID: <ap4b5r+s5ve@eGroups.com>

Although I detest TRL I will of course watch it.  They already have 
some young HP/Daniel fans that were allowed to come up from the 
street.

Gina




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 20:46:24 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:46:24 -0000
Subject: Darn Cute Dan!
Message-ID: <ap4df0+hfit@eGroups.com>

God! Is it legal for kids to be this cute??!!!

Just finished watching TRL (which I, too, abhor but will tolerate in 
the name of HP) and am just charmed by our Dan! He was obviously 
quite nervous, poor thing. He could barely seem to get his thoughts 
together and seemed a bit excited/flustered by all the attention. I 
assumed he'd be used to it by now. But it's easy to forget he's just 
a thirteen year old kid and not The-Boy-Who-Lived. His nervousness 
was really adorable. He seems like a normal, down-to-earth kid, thank 
god.

Almost (**almost**) makes me wish I was a pre-teen again so I could 
have an awful crush on him!

And I hope he does, indeed, stay on for the rest of the movies. For 
me, Dan is Harry and I can't imagine anyone playing him quite as well!

-Jess :-)~ 




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 20:59:55 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:59:55 +0100
Subject: Darn Cute Dan!
References: <ap4df0+hfit@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009f01c27a0d$f9837260$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Advance apology to the moderators but I simply don't know OK?

One British apology coming up.  Who or what is TRL.  Why is everyone so
disdainful about it? What did Daniel do, what was he ment do so?

Felicia





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 21:07:52 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:07:52 -0000
Subject: Darn Cute Dan!
In-Reply-To: <ap4df0+hfit@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap4en8+bssd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at y...> 
wrote:
> God! Is it legal for kids to be this cute??!!!

I don't know.  I believe CHris Columbus now, when he said Dan would 
be a heartbreaker!

> 
> Just finished watching TRL (which I, too, abhor but will tolerate 
in 
> the name of HP) and am just charmed by our Dan! He was obviously 
> quite nervous, poor thing. He could barely seem to get his 
thoughts 
> together and seemed a bit excited/flustered by all the attention. 
I 
> assumed he'd be used to it by now. But it's easy to forget he's 
just 
> a thirteen year old kid and not The-Boy-Who-Lived. His nervousness 
> was really adorable. He seems like a normal, down-to-earth kid, 
thank 
> god.
> 
> Almost (**almost**) makes me wish I was a pre-teen again so I 
could 
> have an awful crush on him!

Oh, me too!!  Me too!! :D  
 

> And I hope he does, indeed, stay on for the rest of the movies. 
For 
> me, Dan is Harry and I can't imagine anyone playing him quite as 
well!
> 
> -Jess :-)~

Jess, I have to agree, I can't imagine anyone else being Harry.  I 
don't care how tall or how deep the voice gets!  The main characters 
need to stay the same, IMO.  I'm going to rewind TRL and watch it 
again!  Minus the boring videos  *yawn*  ;)

Alora






From kokobreen at juno.com  Tue Oct 22 21:11:45 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:11:45 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Darn Cute Dan!
Message-ID: <20021022.171245.17120.456272@webmail4.nyc.untd.com>

Anyone tape it?  I am willing to buy a copy!

Christine

---------- "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com> writes:

From: "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com>
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Darn Cute Dan!
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:46:24 -0000

God! Is it legal for kids to be this cute??!!!

Just finished watching TRL (which I, too, abhor but will tolerate in 
the name of HP) and am just charmed by our Dan! He was obviously 
quite nervous, poor thing. He could barely seem to get his thoughts 
together and seemed a bit excited/flustered by all the attention. I 
assumed he'd be used to it by now. But it's easy to forget he's just 
a thirteen year old kid and not The-Boy-Who-Lived. His nervousness 
was really adorable. He seems like a normal, down-to-earth kid, thank 
god.

Almost (**almost**) makes me wish I was a pre-teen again so I could 
have an awful crush on him!

And I hope he does, indeed, stay on for the rest of the movies. For 
me, Dan is Harry and I can't imagine anyone playing him quite as well!

-Jess :-)~ 



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From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 22 21:30:09 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:30:09 -0000
Subject: What is TRL and Cute Potter
In-Reply-To: <009f01c27a0d$f9837260$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ap4g11+ub89@eGroups.com>

Felicia asked:
>>apology to the moderators but I simply don't know OK?  One British
apology coming up.  Who or what is TRL.  Why is everyone so disdainful
about it? What did Daniel do, what was he ment do so?<<


TRL stands for Total Request Live and is a show on MTV.  It is a live
show where the fans can choose which ten videos they want to see on
the show, and it shows them in a top ten fashion.  It is set in New
York in the MTV studios and has many guest musicians, actors, and the
sort.

The reason people make fun of it so much is because it is a bit of a
teenybopper show which focuses on the next big thing (i.e. in the past
Backstreet Boys and NSync were the big focus).  Plus the fact that the
kids in the audience *constantly* scream which can be *really*
annoying.  The show can just wear on your nerves really.

As for our cute Dan featured today, he was so adorable.  He just was
amazed by it all it seems.  If you picture his face when he entered
Diagon Alley that is what he looked like.  I would of thought he would
be an old pro at these things by now but he was quite tongue-tied.  I
know y'all have discussed his eyes *alot* lately, but I don't mind
them.  They are simple gorgeous, but I will say I like him better with
glasses than without.

Melody




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Tue Oct 22 21:30:25 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:30:25 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Darn Cute Dan!
References: <ap4df0+hfit@eGroups.com> <009f01c27a0d$f9837260$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <3DB5C371.C5139EA@ka.reg.uci.edu>

TRL is Total Request Live, a show were fans call in/write in and request their fave videos on MTV.  Carson Daly is
the host.

A lot of teens like the show (which could be negative, i suppose), but it's been running for years now and will be
celebrating it's 1000th episode on Wednesday.  I don't watch it all that often, but they do have some good
celebrity guests and whatnot.

cheers,
jenny

Felicia Rickmann wrote:

> Advance apology to the moderators but I simply don't know OK?
>
> One British apology coming up.  Who or what is TRL.  Why is everyone so
> disdainful about it? What did Daniel do, what was he ment do so?
>
> Felicia




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Tue Oct 22 21:35:38 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:35:38 +0100
Subject: What is TRL and Cute Potter
References: <ap4g11+ub89@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00dc01c27a12$f6f449c0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

<Studiously reads explanation about TRL and takes deep breath....>

Well.  My goodness, the boy really is a hero then.  Thank you very much for
the explanation which was very helpful to someone not in the States and who
doesn't watch TV (no really, not any except 1/2 an Alan Rickman film *Emma*
in the past week....)

I think I will stick to fireplaces..........

Felicia





From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Tue Oct 22 22:16:47 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:16:47 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Darn Cute Dan!
In-Reply-To: <20021022.171245.17120.456272@webmail4.nyc.untd.com>
Message-ID: <ap4iof+j9m7@eGroups.com>

Christine wrote:
> (Regarding Daniel Radcliffe's appearance on TRL) Anyone tape it?  
I am willing to buy a copy!


I'd like to buy a copy too if anyone taped it.
--Nia




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 22:19:02 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:19:02 -0000
Subject: What is TRL and Cute Potter
In-Reply-To: <ap4g11+ub89@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap4ism+l7kv@eGroups.com>

> As for our cute Dan featured today, he was so adorable.  He just was
> amazed by it all it seems.  If you picture his face when he entered
> Diagon Alley that is what he looked like.  

Couldn't agree more!!! You could just see it all over his face! It 
was very endearing. Good to know Dan's parents are raising him out of 
the glare of the public and press. He just looked like he couldn't 
believe all this attention was being lavished on him. Hey, Dan -- 
you're Harry Potter! Get used to it. Aww, it was sweet. Just wanted 
to give him a great big hug. 

> I know y'all have discussed his eyes *alot* lately, but I don't mind
> them.  They are simple gorgeous, but I will say I like him better 
>  with glasses than without.

Ditto, again. How odd is it to see him without the glasses? He's a 
cutie, but I've always prefered boy with specs'!

And the dueling scene?! Wow...wow!!! Now I'm COMPLETELY chomping at 
the bite to see the movie (as if I wasn't all ready). No dancing 
Harry, though. 

I kinda wish Dan could have brought along Emma and Rupert, too. If 
they're even a quarter as cute as him, I think I'd probably squeal 
myself to death. Oh, is this really what it's come to? I'm 24 years 
old and I'm gushing about bunch of teenagers...oh my...

:-)

-Jessica, who taped TRL and would be happy to try to make copies for 
anyone who missed it. 





--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> Felicia asked:
> >>apology to the moderators but I simply don't know OK?  One British
> apology coming up.  Who or what is TRL.  Why is everyone so 
disdainful
> about it? What did Daniel do, what was he ment do so?<<
> 
> 
> TRL stands for Total Request Live and is a show on MTV.  It is a 
live
> show where the fans can choose which ten videos they want to see on
> the show, and it shows them in a top ten fashion.  It is set in New
> York in the MTV studios and has many guest musicians, actors, and 
the
> sort.
> 
> The reason people make fun of it so much is because it is a bit of a
> teenybopper show which focuses on the next big thing (i.e. in the 
past
> Backstreet Boys and NSync were the big focus).  Plus the fact that 
the
> kids in the audience *constantly* scream which can be *really*
> annoying.  The show can just wear on your nerves really.
> 
> As for our cute Dan featured today, he was so adorable.  He just was
> amazed by it all it seems.  If you picture his face when he entered
> Diagon Alley that is what he looked like.  I would of thought he 
would
> be an old pro at these things by now but he was quite tongue-tied.  
I
> know y'all have discussed his eyes *alot* lately, but I don't mind
> them.  They are simple gorgeous, but I will say I like him better 
with
> glasses than without.
> 
> Melody




From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 22 23:03:08 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Darn Cute Dan!
In-Reply-To: <ap4en8+bssd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021022230308.92179.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com>


Oh my gosh.  He is such a cutie.  I have to agree, though that TRL is highly annoying.  Anyway, poor Dan, so nervous and tongue tied, but overall, he did a nice job.  The film clip was way cool, too!  
Kristi, wishing she was 13 again!
 alora <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com> wrote:--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at y...> 
wrote:
> God! Is it legal for kids to be this cute??!!!

I don't know.  I believe CHris Columbus now, when he said Dan would 
be a heartbreaker!

> 
> Just finished watching TRL (which I, too, abhor but will tolerate 
in 
> the name of HP) and am just charmed by our Dan! He was obviously 
> quite nervous, poor thing. He could barely seem to get his 
thoughts 
> together and seemed a bit excited/flustered by all the attention. 
I 
> assumed he'd be used to it by now. But it's easy to forget he's 
just 
> a thirteen year old kid and not The-Boy-Who-Lived. His nervousness 
> was really adorable. He seems like a normal, down-to-earth kid, 
thank 
> god.
> 
> Almost (**almost**) makes me wish I was a pre-teen again so I 
could 
> have an awful crush on him!

Oh, me too!!  Me too!! :D  


> And I hope he does, indeed, stay on for the rest of the movies. 
For 
> me, Dan is Harry and I can't imagine anyone playing him quite as 
well!
> 
> -Jess :-)~

Jess, I have to agree, I can't imagine anyone else being Harry.  I 
don't care how tall or how deep the voice gets!  The main characters 
need to stay the same, IMO.  I'm going to rewind TRL and watch it 
again!  Minus the boring videos  *yawn*  ;)

Alora




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From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 00:26:25 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: What is TRL and Cute Potter
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> 
> -Jessica, who taped TRL and would be happy to try to make
> copies for 
> anyone who missed it. 
> 
>
Hi Jessica,
Please put me on your list of those who'd liek a copy of
Dan on TRL

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From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 00:50:22 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:50:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Sorry
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I thought I changed the address before hitting send to take
that off-list. Apparently I thought wrong. *sigh*

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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 01:20:49 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Darn Cute Dan!/TRL Videos/"Cocktail Party" Discussions
Message-ID: <20021023012049.13002.qmail@web40308.mail.yahoo.com>


Alora said:

Jess, I have to agree, I can't imagine anyone else being Harry.  I 
don't care how tall or how deep the voice gets!  The main characters 
need to stay the same, IMO. 


Me:

Dan _is_ Harry for me now, too, and I agree with you totally!  


<<<-Jessica, who taped TRL and would be happy to try to make copies for 
anyone who missed it.>>> 

Well, Jessica...Nia, Christine and I are interested...you might want to see what you could get off of Ebay for it!  Start a little business there... ;-)

Actually, I was wondering if TLC puts anything up from TRL on their website?  They put up a little bit last year, so I'm hoping they do this year!  


Jessica also said:
Good to know Dan's parents are raising him out of 
the glare of the public and press. He just looked like he couldn't 
believe all this attention was being lavished on him. Hey, Dan -- 
you're Harry Potter! Get used to it. Aww, it was sweet. Just wanted 
to give him a great big hug. 


And I say:

Please, Dan, DON'T get used to it!  Never, ever get used to it and stay the sweet kid that you are!  I know that's probably impossible, but it's what I think Harry would do.  


And one more thought...

I know there were many differing opinions about eye color (I am not afraid to name it!), and I hope that we can always use this forum as a place to share our opinions about the HP movies.  

Cindy wrote a wonderful post on the main list about respecting other's pov and to not force a subject to close because someone is getting sick of it. I think this applies to the movie and ot lists as well.  She puts it much more eloquently than I ever could in this wonderful post I dub "The Cocktail Party Post" (#43225 if you want to read the whole thing).  Here's an excerpt:

 <<<See, I view this list as akin to a huge cocktail party. People are 
clustered in parts of a large room, discussing whatever is of 
interest to them. Some conversations are small. Others are large, 
involving scores of people. Some interactions are genteel, some get 
a little hot. Some people join conversations late, some leave 
early, and some stick around for the whole thing. When party guests 
stumble across a conversation that doesn't interest them, they 
quietly slip off, freshen their drinks, and join or start another 
conversation that is more to their liking. 

Usually, conversations at the party taper off and end because people 
wander away once they lose interest or can think of nothing to add. 
What cocktail party participants don't do, however, is attempt to 
steer a conversation or shut down a conversation if they think it 
has gone on long enough, perhaps by declaring the conversation 
tedious once they have grown weary of it.>>>

Thanks for letting me share my opinions about eye color, even though it was tedious for some of you. I did learn a lot, and I have calmed-down about the whole thing because of our discussion.  

Sincerely,

Lilac    




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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 23 01:29:12 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:29:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Daniel's eyes (last one, I promise!)
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> bboy_mn finally gets it:
>
> Ok, after reading your response and the others, I think I understand
> what you mean. In a sense, you are asking, 'Is there something
> critical about the color green, or is the critical factor that the
> color match his mothers? Alternately, is it related to some abstact
> feature of his mother's eyes?'
>
> Definitely, there is something in common about their eyes, but the
> color may be incidental to the book. JKR may have simply chosen green
> because it is an uncommon color, and the true 'value' of the eyes is
> related to  the ability to do magic, or whatever. I'm pretty sure I'm
> on the right track here.

Ah, wonderful. :)  I have finally gotten my point across. At last. :)  And
all of you I'm sure will be pleased to know this is my last message
regarding the eye issue!  Let me say, for the record, that I LOVE Daniel's
eyes as they are, hope they don't change them for the movie.  (Unless it's
for that pickled toad line) ;)  I must say, if I had a child with eyes like
that I could *never* say no.  His poor parents . . ..

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 23 04:10:51 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:10:51 -0000
Subject: Tea with the Slytherins anyone?
In-Reply-To: <001801c279f6$a91f1f20$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
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Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> I rather like the look of the Slytherin Common Room, rather 
palatial if a little gloomy, not the place to enjoy having tea!.  
Not a bit we have seen on any of the trailers so far either.

It's really interesting to compare the Slytherin Common Room to 
Gryffindor's.  A very large effort has been made to make the 
Gryffindor Common Room as inviting as possible.  The camera angle is 
nearly always towards the fire (in PS/SS)  There is lots of red and 
gold which makes it appear to be a comfy sitting room.  The 
Slytherin Room, on the other hand, reminds me nearly perfectly of an 
exclusive men's club, where expensive cigars and brandy are 
regularly consumed and the conversation centers around deadly boring 
stuffy topics.  The camera angle takes in the high ceilings which 
make it seem cavernous.  Definately NOT the place to enjoy having 
tea. 
--Nia




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 06:59:12 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 06:59:12 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
Message-ID: <ap5hc0+gnbq@eGroups.com>

Has anybody else read the article (linked by TLC) about Chris 
Columbus predicting that the current HP kids will quit after Azkaban?

I'm about ready to pitch a fit -- and just not because I absolutely 
love those kids and refuse to accept anybody else as Harry, Hermione, 
and Ron. But, honestly, the pure impact of Goblet comes from the fact 
that we've grown to know and love Harry and his friends and school 
mates. This is the book where a great deal of the emotional 
interaction between the characters really intensifies and becomes 
more apparent. Harry's fight with Ron. Ron and Hermione's (sort of) 
flirtations. We need to be able to feel comfortable with and close to 
these characters when this stuff happens. That's why GoF is so 
intense -- we feel like all of this change and strife is happening to 
people we care about. Am I really going to be upset that Harry and 
Ron aren't speaking to each other when I'm thinking "Hey, y'know 
Rupert would have said that this way" or "Gosh this new kid is 
difficult to get used to -- gimme Dan"? I think not.

And personally, I have been looking forward to seeing Rupert and Emma 
got at after the Yule Ball since I saw PS/SS.

How on earth are they going to pull of the shock and horror of what 
happens to Harry at the end of the novel if we're barely over the 
shock of Harry not looking the same?

I know these poor kids need to have a life. But I really hope they 
hang on at least through GoF. I'm not sure I'll have the heart to go 
see the movie if they don't.

-Jessica, who feels very sad now :-(




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 23 07:32:41 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:32:41 +0100
Subject: No New Kids!
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Funny, I always thought that PoA would make or break the series, but not for
that reason.  I love the kids to bits and agree that to replace them for GoF
would be a huge mistake because of the emotional investment of half the
world (or so..) in what has happened so far.

I always thought that the casting of Sirius and Remus to be very important
for this reason.  We care about the characters, and what they look like
(shallow, I know, but I like the way they look!)  If we don't like Sirius
and Remus as cast (pace Corgi....) I wonder if it might tip the balance the
wrong way, away from that will be a major investment i.e. GoF, supposedly a
two-parter.

I like the actors playing all the roles, yes we may lose one or two (Richard
Harris may be too ill to continue for example) , but not removing all three
at one stroke, it's a nightmare that may remove much of their audience.

Felicia





From ivorydragon77 at netscape.net  Wed Oct 23 07:53:33 2002
From: ivorydragon77 at netscape.net (ivorydragon77)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:53:33 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
In-Reply-To: <002201c27a66$5f44ea40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
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I agree - getting used to new faces as our beloved characters would 
take away from the film I think.

I know this has been discussed before, but I just can't understand 
why so many people seem to think that it isn't possible for say, Dan 
to play Harry when he is 1-2 years older than Harry's actual age, and 
his voice is deeper, etc.  All kids have growth spurts at odd times: 
some mature faster than others.  Lots of TV shows involve 20 
somethings playing teenagers.  As far as I'm concerned, once the 
characters hit 14 or 15, it really shouldn't matter too much if the 
actors are a couple years older.  I think the character development 
is more important than having kids who are actually that age.  If Dan 
was 19 or 20 when the 7th movie came out, I think he could pull it 
off just fine.  It would be better in a way, because the stories are 
supposed to get darker as they get older, and the kids would be more 
seasoned as actors.

I think if the kids get tired of making the movies, that's another 
matter.  They have a right to "just be kids," and not lose their 
entire childhood to a series of movies.  But if they want to 
continue, I think it would be really sad if they were recast just bc 
of their age.

just my 2 knuts..

Lorien K.
currently wishing she was 13 again so she could have a major crush on 
Dan.... sigh...




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 23 12:39:07 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:39:07 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
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Message-ID: <ap659b+mpln@eGroups.com>

Jessica wrote:
> Has anybody else read the article (linked by TLC) about Chris 
> Columbus predicting that the current HP kids will quit after 
Azkaban?
> <snipped a bit>
> I'm about ready to pitch a fit -- and just not because I absolutely 
> love those kids and refuse to accept anybody else as Harry, 
Hermione, and Ron. But, honestly, the pure impact of Goblet comes 
from the fact that we've grown to know and love Harry and his friends 
and school mates. This is the book where a great deal of the 
emotional interaction between the characters really intensifies and 
becomes more apparent. Harry's fight with Ron. Ron and Hermione's 
(sort of) flirtations. We need to be able to feel comfortable with 
and close to these characters when this stuff happens. That's why GoF 
is so intense -- we feel like all of this change and strife is 
happening to people we care about. 
Me:
I couldn't agree more! It was quite a shock and very upsetting to 
hear Columbus say that, especially after he so vehemently defended 
using the children in all the movies when the press went rabid about 
Daniel and Rupert's voices breaking and them growing a few inches.  
How fickle is the film world!  
You are absolutely right about the characters growing on us.  It was 
difficult at first to imagine the Harry Potter books being made into 
films, now it's virtually impossible imagining anyone else as the 
Trio.  Daniel is such a perfect Harry, I think, because he is first 
of all a child "with a soul"-- he has convinced me that he really 
feels what Harry is going through because he sincerely respects 
Rowling's work.   Daniel has this wonderful haunted quality about him 
that makes him seem so genuine. All three children have established a 
screen rapport and chemistry that will be very, very, very difficult, 
if not impossible to duplicate.  Confidence with a character in a 
screen role comes with long association.  New actors will be (no 
matter how good they are), still feeling their ways around the 
roles.  They will not have any emotional attachment to their 
characters first time out and, I'm certain, we will have no emotional 
attachment to them.  Well, it isn't quite cast in stone is it?  
Perhaps the children will go one beyond Prisoner.  The tone of the 
series will dramatically change with Order of the Phoenix, anyway. 
After GoF would be the best time to make a change, if that's what is 
wanted all around.  I, too, was very much looking forward to the 
original Trio's dynamics in Goblet of Fire.  I think, perhaps, 
though, it will all boil down to whether or not the studio will want 
to continue with the same cast, whether the children want to continue 
and whether their parents will allow them to.  (sigh!)
--Nia




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 23 12:58:39 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:58:39 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
In-Reply-To: <002201c27a66$5f44ea40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ap66dv+8kgb@eGroups.com>

"Felicia Rickmann" wrote:
<snip>
> 
> I like the actors playing all the roles, yes we may lose one or two 
(Richard Harris may be too ill to continue for example) , but not 
removing all three at one stroke, it's a nightmare that may remove 
much of their audience.

Does anyone know where we can voice our extreme disapproval of this 
possible action to WB?
--Nia




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 13:17:23 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:17:23 -0000
Subject: kids'  TV appearances
Message-ID: <ap67h3+hjnv@eGroups.com>

Hi all,

I caught the TRL show yesterday, but does anyone know of any other 
appearances any of the HP kids will be making?  I know last year 
they were on the CBS morning show, Rosie show etc.  Any one have any 
information?  Thanks!

Alora




From sequoiajw at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 14:02:43 2002
From: sequoiajw at yahoo.com (G. Jackson)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:02:43 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: No New Kids!
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I agree that it would be a shame to lose Dan, Rupert, and Emma. But if
you read the article carefully, all Chris Columbus is saying is that
it's his OPINION that they may not want to continue, for whatever
reasons they might have in the future. Nothing's been decided yet, and
no one has signed on for GOF... adults or kids, right, except Jason
Isaacs as Lucius (according to IMDB anyway)?

So, deep breaths everyone, it's only Chris Columbus' opinion at this
point in time.

gwynne




From helevision at yahoo.com.au  Wed Oct 23 14:31:57 2002
From: helevision at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Helen=20M?=)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:31:57 +1000 (EST)
Subject: No New Kids!
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Message-ID: <20021023143157.88180.qmail@web21310.mail.yahoo.com>


Lorien K wrote:

>I agree - getting used to new faces as our beloved characters would 
>take away from the film I think.

Yep, it's like in TV series how they sometimes replace the kids over and over so that they're permanently the same age. When they do this, people tend to stop watching because the characters are just too different, and it's just "not the same show anymore".

>If Dan was 19 or 20 when the 7th movie came out, I think he could pull it 
>off just fine.

Oh yeah, for sure. When I first saw "Grease" when I was ten years old, I had absolutely no idea how old the actors really were. They played the part of teenagers so well, it didn't matter that some of them had grey hair and crow's feet (lol!). I myself am 21 and recently auditioned for the part of a 17 year old in a film project. I still look 17. I still look 15! And just look at the woman who they've got playing Myrtle.

Erm, in short, ITA with you. ;)

>I think if the kids get tired of making the movies, that's another 
>matter. 

Yeah. They seem to have a lot of fun now, but in a couple of years other things will become more important to them, like education and career choices, etc. I'll forgive Emma for leaving the films if she decides to commit her life to becoming a doctor of applied chemistry or something. :)

>Lorien K.
>currently wishing she was 13 again so she could have a major crush on 
>Dan.... sigh...

Eh. Why do you have to be 13 to have a crush on him? I have no problem admitting that I do! Heck, when I was 17 I had a crush on Flik from A Bug's Life. (Okay, stop laughing!!).

Helen :)

(who is sorry if she offended anyone earlier about wanting to stop the "eye colour" conversation, but it seemed to be just going around in circles and getting a tad repetitive and boring. Sorry again.)



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From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 23 14:49:26 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:49:26 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
In-Reply-To: <002301c27a9e$50865ec0$372367ce@gj1011405onem>
Message-ID: <ap6ctm+d8ph@eGroups.com>

Gwen wrote:
> I agree that it would be a shame to lose Dan, Rupert, and Emma. But 
if you read the article carefully, all Chris Columbus is saying is 
that it's his OPINION that they may not want to continue, for whatever
> reasons they might have in the future.  
> So, deep breaths everyone, it's only Chris Columbus' opinion at this
> point in time.
> 
Thank you, Gwen, for the bit of therapy and "cool logic."
--Nia (Who is also very sorry if I offended anyone about the eye 
colour discussion, but it just seemed the ideas had become rather 
repetitious over disagreements that were so minor.  Again, sorry.  
Will you forgive me, Lilac?)  




From flyeagle at the-i.net  Wed Oct 23 15:28:44 2002
From: flyeagle at the-i.net (Virginia F Garza)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:28:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: What is TRL and Cute Potter
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   -Jessica, who taped TRL and would be happy to try to make
   copies for 
   anyone who missed it. 


  Jessica,
  I would also like a copy of TRL.  I missed it because my sister and my niece were here.  Please put my name down on your list.  My email is flyeagle at the-i.net    Thanks
  Faye


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From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 23 15:43:30 2002
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:43:30 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: No New Kids!
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Hi,

Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 7:02:43 AM, sequoiajw at yahoo.com wrote:

> So, deep breaths everyone, it's only Chris Columbus' opinion at this
> point in time.

And I wonder how it would feel if only one or two of them
decided to "call it quits".

I'd hate to see a new Ron with the "old" Harry and Hermione,
or any other changes like that.

If they have to change, then I'd rather have them be all
different actors.

That way I could stop watching the movies :}

I've always been very loyal and have never been able to
stick with a show where they tried to pass of a different
actor as a beloved character.

That's why I don't watch remakes, either.
The upcoming "Starsky and Hutch" makes me shudder!

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net




From corgi at SFF.net  Wed Oct 23 18:32:20 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:32:20 -0000
Subject: No New Kids!
In-Reply-To: <002201c27a66$5f44ea40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <ap6pvk+c6hp@eGroups.com>

--- Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> I always thought that the casting of Sirius and Remus to be very
> important for this reason.  We care about the characters, and what
> they look like (shallow, I know, but I like the way they look!)
> If we don't like Sirius and Remus as cast (pace Corgi....) I
> wonder if it might tip the balance the wrong way, away from that
> will be a major investment i.e. GoF, supposedly a two-parter.

<chortle>  'Pace' indeed.  No, I agree with you, which is why I'm 
so... strident *cough* and/or determined about Jason being cast.

Not only do most people unfamiliar with his work (i.e., people who
didn't see B5) react to seeing his picture with, well, lots of
exclamation points :), but the B5 fans are flat-out enthusiastic with
the idea.

(Wish there was more crossover in the fandom, though; and wish B5 was 
more easily accessible by a larger audience.  Blast Skiffy, anyway.)

Yeah -- those two characters have had such a big impact on fandom, I 
can't imagine that they wouldn't have just as much appeal as film 
characters as well.  It's that 'crush' element, y'see....

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From itzregina at hanson.net  Wed Oct 23 18:40:36 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:40:36 -0000
Subject: The "hug" in COS is foreshadowing!
Message-ID: <ap6qf4+tsk5@eGroups.com>

This is according to the interview up at The Leaky Cauldron.


"*TLC*: Quick thing about the end of the movie. There's a very 
adorable scene where Hermione hugs Harry, but she doesn't hug Ron - 
what was behind that non-hug for you? 

CC: Did you read book four? 

*TLC*: Yeah, I did. [You've no idea.] 

CC: So, it's a little bit of a taste of what's to happen, what's 
coming up.

TLC: So it is foreshadowing. 

CC: It is foreshadowing, yeah. I just love the idea that the two of 
them, that there's an impending crush. And it's such a real thing for 
kids at that age. For instance, I asked Emma to hug Dan, and she 
said, 'No way,' and that was the day she was the most nervous being 
on the set. She was like, 'I am not going to hug him, no I'm not.' 
And I said, 'You've been petrified, this is one of your best friends, 
if not your best friend, you have to hug him,' I said, 'but you won't 
hug Ron, because that's where the tension is."   Hmmmmmm.....


Emma may opt out of future movies if she has to "hook up"  :-)

Gina






From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 18:59:36 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:59:36 -0000
Subject: The "hug" in COS is foreshadowing!
In-Reply-To: <ap6qf4+tsk5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap6rio+mtpb@eGroups.com>

:~(  **sniffles**

Aw, please let me enjoy my tiny slice of pumpkin pie -- even if I 
can't have the whole thing...

That hug is just so sweet!

Poo!

And no Deathday Party! I'm really disappointed about that -- would 
have been quite a scene. Poor Nearly-Headless Nick -- still can't get 
the recognition he craves!!!

-Jessica, who will NEVER, EVER be convinced that Harry and Hermione 
aren't soulmates!!!!






--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Regina" <itzregina at h...> wrote:
> This is according to the interview up at The Leaky Cauldron.
> 
> 
> "*TLC*: Quick thing about the end of the movie. There's a very 
> adorable scene where Hermione hugs Harry, but she doesn't hug Ron - 
> what was behind that non-hug for you? 
> 
> CC: Did you read book four? 
> 
> *TLC*: Yeah, I did. [You've no idea.] 
> 
> CC: So, it's a little bit of a taste of what's to happen, what's 
> coming up.
> 
> TLC: So it is foreshadowing. 
> 
> CC: It is foreshadowing, yeah. I just love the idea that the two of 
> them, that there's an impending crush. And it's such a real thing 
for 
> kids at that age. For instance, I asked Emma to hug Dan, and she 
> said, 'No way,' and that was the day she was the most nervous being 
> on the set. She was like, 'I am not going to hug him, no I'm not.' 
> And I said, 'You've been petrified, this is one of your best 
friends, 
> if not your best friend, you have to hug him,' I said, 'but you 
won't 
> hug Ron, because that's where the tension is."   Hmmmmmm.....
> 
> 
> Emma may opt out of future movies if she has to "hook up"  :-)
> 
> Gina




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 23 19:04:40 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:04:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The "hug" in COS is foreshadowing!
Message-ID: <28960609.1035399880161.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

Gina writes:

> This is according to the interview up at The Leaky Cauldron.
> 
> "*TLC*: Quick thing about the end of the movie. There's a very 
> adorable scene where Hermione hugs Harry, but she doesn't hug Ron - 
> what was behind that non-hug for you? 
> 
> CC: Did you read book four? 
> 
> *TLC*: Yeah, I did. [You've no idea.] 
> 
> CC: So, it's a little bit of a taste of what's to happen, what's 
> coming up.
> 
> TLC: So it is foreshadowing. 
> 
> CC: It is foreshadowing, yeah. I just love the idea that the two of 
> them, that there's an impending crush. And it's such a real thing for 
> kids at that age. For instance, I asked Emma to hug Dan, and she 
> said, 'No way,' and that was the day she was the most nervous being 
> on the set. She was like, 'I am not going to hug him, no I'm not.' 
> And I said, 'You've been petrified, this is one of your best friends, 
> if not your best friend, you have to hug him,' I said, 'but you won't 
> hug Ron, because that's where the tension is."   Hmmmmmm.....
> 
> 
> Emma may opt out of future movies if she has to "hook up"  :-)
> 
> Gina

You know, I read the kids interview first, and they were asked about the hug 
too.  The response somewhat confused me at first, as there was a type.  They 
first had Rupert answering instead of Dan, which made me thoroughly confused, 
and I even thought for a fleeting moment that Ron got a hug too!  But no, it 
was only a typo and now is fixed.  Here's what they asked:

I have a two-part question. Emma could you comment on having to hug Daniel? And 
my other question is, how are your families dealing with all this attention? 

EW: Well...

DR: [very serious, to Emma] Be careful. 

[laughter, obviously.] 
EW: I'll be very careful. For starters it was 'cringe,' but then it was okay. 
Where better to hug somebody in front of 300 kids and everyone else in the 
whole entire world? But I mean, it was okay, it was good. He was really nice 
about it. You'd think he might not be but, he was very nice.

Dan what were you thinking? 

DR: I was thinking, 'Ew, get off me,' actually. [laughter] No, I was cool with 
it, I didn't mind at all. Mind? Why would I mind?

Man these kids are cute.

Richelle
  ----------

This is according to the interview up at The Leaky Cauldron.


"*TLC*: Quick thing about the end of the movie. There's a very 
adorable scene where Hermione hugs Harry, but she doesn't hug Ron - 
what was behind that non-hug for you? 

CC: Did you read book four? 

*TLC*: Yeah, I did. [You've no idea.] 

CC: So, it's a little bit of a taste of what's to happen, what's 
coming up.

TLC: So it is foreshadowing. 

CC: It is foreshadowing, yeah. I just love the idea that the two of 
them, that there's an impending crush. And it's such a real thing for 
kids at that age. For instance, I asked Emma to hug Dan, and she 
said, 'No way,' and that was the day she was the most nervous being 
on the set. She was like, 'I am not going to hug him, no I'm not.' 
And I said, 'You've been petrified, this is one of your best friends, 
if not your best friend, you have to hug him,' I said, 'but you won't 
hug Ron, because that's where the tension is."   Hmmmmmm.....


Emma may opt out of future movies if she has to "hook up"  :-)

Gina





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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 20:01:13 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
Message-ID: <20021023200113.86958.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>


Okay, the subject is your warning.  If you don't want to partake in this cocktail party conversation, then by all means, delete this message now.  But please let me have my say...

Yay, Leaky Cauldron's Melissa!  What an exciting experience to be a part of a round-table interview!  I'm so proud of her!  

Thanks for getting the answer straight from the horse's mouth...

******************************************************

<<<*TLC*: There's been some wavering in Dan's eye color; there have been some shots in trailers of it as green, then some as blue - why even waver at this point? 

CC: We never changed it. It's only lighting. What happens in the first movie is we talked about digitally changing every shot to green. But if you look at a human being, I mean, nobody really studies it until you make a film, you can't, people with blue eyes, particularly, in a room like this they'll go dark and almost look brown. If you take them outside they're bright blue. Put them on a set like the Chamber of Secrets, they'll go greener, because the sequence itself is green. So we didn't touch it, I swear to you. There's nothing that's been altered. The first movie, our effects people said, we barely have time to finish the movie, turning his eyes green in every shot is not going to work.

*TLC*: It's strange - I have a picture. Take a look at the international trailer.

CC: Seriously?

*TLC*: Yeah, it's actually strange, they change. 

CC: The international trailer? Okay.

********************************************************

So it was a time issue.  I always thought that the "no money" argument didn't hold because of the gobs of money the movie made, and they could have gambled on the future success of the film.  But no time, I can understand that.  

I know Melissa was interested in this point like I was, so I know it wasn't just my silly little email that persuaded her to ask.  So, that leaves me to think that they do leave out the "Green as a Pickled Toad" singing Valentine if they did nothing to his eyes.  

~Lilac, who is leaning towards the belief that it's not the eye color so much as the eye "type" (shape?) that is like Lily's eyes, thanks to the discussions on this list.



 

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From itzregina at hanson.net  Wed Oct 23 20:11:08 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:11:08 -0000
Subject: kids'  TV appearances
In-Reply-To: <ap67h3+hjnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap6vos+o3ba@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I caught the TRL show yesterday, but does anyone know of any other 
> appearances any of the HP kids will be making?  I know last year 
> they were on the CBS morning show, Rosie show etc.  Any one have 
any 
> information?  Thanks!
> 
> Alora

Rumor has it that this morning they were in Chicago being interviewed 
by Oprah!

Gina




From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Oct 23 20:34:40 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:34:40 -0000
Subject: Premeire in LA
Message-ID: <ap7150+4pd9@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know anything about going to movie premeire's?  The 
premeire in LA is on Nov. 14, and we'll be in LA that week.  I'd love 
to go, but don't know the first thing about them.  Would we even be 
able to see anything?  Would it be worth the wait?  How early would 
we need to get there?  Who will be there?  Any info would be greatly 
appreciated!

Dar




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 23 20:47:09 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:47:09 -0000
Subject: kids'  TV appearances
In-Reply-To: <ap6vos+o3ba@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap71sd+kfr3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Regina" <itzregina at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I caught the TRL show yesterday, but does anyone know of any 
other 
> > appearances any of the HP kids will be making?  I know last year 
> > they were on the CBS morning show, Rosie show etc.  Any one have 
> any 
> > information?  Thanks!
> > 
> > Alora
> 
> Rumor has it that this morning they were in Chicago being 
interviewed 
> by Oprah!
> 
> Gina

Oprah?!  Oh, Gina, if you get any more info, let me know.  I have 
four kids and school is so busy right now I am not even home when 
it's on.  Thanks so much!!!

Alora




From bethz1 at rcn.com  Thu Oct 24 01:00:16 2002
From: bethz1 at rcn.com (Ms. Found in a Bottle)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:00:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] kids'  TV appearances
References: <ap67h3+hjnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006401c27af8$beee94e0$6501a8c0@BethsComp>

I'm not sure if you're only talking about network television appearances or
not, but Dan, Rupert & Emma are going to be hosting "The Making of Chamber
of Secrets" on HBO and HBO2.  I know it will be on HBO on Nov. 4th at
10:15pm and HBO2 on Nov. 5th at 12:15pm.  Knowing HBO it will probably be
shown a few times throughout the month of November.

I'll try to post if I hear about anything else.

Beth

----- Original Message -----
From: "alora" <chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com>

> Hi all,
>
> I caught the TRL show yesterday, but does anyone know of any other
> appearances any of the HP kids will be making?  I know last year
> they were on the CBS morning show, Rosie show etc.  Any one have any
> information?  Thanks!






From morrigan at byz.org  Thu Oct 24 01:53:18 2002
From: morrigan at byz.org (Vicki)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:53:18 -0500
Subject: kids'  TV appearances
In-Reply-To: <ap71sd+kfr3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <OCEOIOOCLDBFPDHBBCEMAEGPCJAA.morrigan@byz.org>

-----Original Message-----
From: alora

>Oprah?!  Oh, Gina, if you get any more info, let me know.  I have
>four kids and school is so busy right now I am not even home when
>it's on.  Thanks so much!!!

*sighs loudly*  Yes, it's true - they were a mere FEW MILES from where I was
today!  *sobs bitterly*  I couldn't even go over to try and catch them going
in and out of Harpo Studies.  I was very bummed. :(

As for when the episode will air, I don't know.  I checked Oprah's website,
but they only list the shows for a week at a time, so all I can suggest is
checking Oprah.com periodically.  I'll try to remember too, and post the
date.  I'm guessing it will be right before the movie opens, but perhaps
not.

Vicki,in Chicago with no Trio-spotting :/




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Thu Oct 24 02:02:22 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:02:22 -0000
Subject: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
In-Reply-To: <20021023200113.86958.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ap7kbe+9j1v@eGroups.com>

 Lilac wrote:
> 
<snip> (Comments about discussion)<<<*TLC*: There's been some 
wavering in Dan's eye color; there have been some shots in trailers 
of it as green, then some as blue - why even waver at this point? 
> 
> CC: We never changed it. It's only lighting. What happens in the 
first movie is we talked about digitally changing every shot to 
green. But if you look at a human being, I mean, nobody really 
studies it until you make a film, you can't, people with blue eyes, 
particularly, in a room like this they'll go dark and almost look 
brown. If you take them outside they're bright blue. Put them on a 
set like the Chamber of Secrets, they'll go greener, because the 
sequence itself is green. So we didn't touch it, I swear to you. 
There's nothing that's been altered. The first movie, our effects 
people said, we barely have time to finish the movie, turning his 
eyes green in every shot is not going to work.
> 
>> So it was a time issue.  <snip> 

Me:
  Tut tut, Lilac, you must have missed both Helen and my heartfelt 
apologies.  Qv. Msg 3575 and 3576.  In messages of this kind, one 
cannot read emotion or intent.  Neither of our comments were meant 
to be malicious or demeaning in any way.  I have a rather wicked 
sense of humor and online, since no one can see when I am teasing or 
being a bit sarcastic, and the winking emoticon is not exactly 
right, I can come off as a bit sniffy.  Both our objections were to 
arguments which basically repeated themselves.  It didn't seem as if 
anyone was considering what had already been said, that is all.  
Really, I'm a very nice person.  
Now, this post is interesting and merits some discussion.  I think, 
perhaps Columbus' comments would squelch the idea about CG-ing in 
green eyes and the mysterious changes in Daniel's eye color in the 
third trailer.  It will be interesting to see if the environmental 
influences Columbus discusses will be at all distracting during the 
film.  I think that knowing what to expect and exactly why Daniel's 
eyes will remain blue, will greatly ease canon-based fans' anxieties.
--Nia




From bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 03:49:07 2002
From: bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com (bruinfan1988)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:49:07 -0000
Subject: Premeire in LA
In-Reply-To: <ap7150+4pd9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap7qjj+3tks@eGroups.com>

I don't know any specifics as to who will be there, etc., but I 
expect that information will be available in the week before the LA 
premiere.  I believe last year some of the adults and none of the kid 
stars were at the LA premiere--it is less of a big deal than the NY 
premiere.  Having said that, there were a fair number of nonHP 
celebrities who attended last year.  The premiere was in Westwood 
last year, and I believe it is at the same theatre this year.  I saw 
the theatre the morning of the premiere (I bought my tickets that 
morning), and they had the street in front closed off and decked with 
red carpet and these really cool Hogwarts and House banners.  It was 
pretty neat to see.

I didn't go to see the folks walking in to the premiere itself, and 
the public generally can't attend the premiere without a special 
ticket.  I have seen celebrities arrive at many premieres in Westwood 
in the past, however, and generally fans are allowed to line up 
across the street from the theatre to watch the stars get out of cars 
and walk in, etc. Depending on the movie, people can either line up 
an hour or two beforehand to get a good spot at the curb, or can just 
be walking by accidently and notice that a premiere is happening and 
get to see celebrities.  I think the premiere is at 7 pm, and I would 
guess that if you were there by 5 or 6 you would be able to see the 
people walking in--I don't think there will be a crazy crowd because 
I think there won't be many of the stars present, and, frankly, since 
there are so many premieres in Westwood, the locals get a little 
jaded.

Hope that helps.

Leeanna


--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Darlene" <Dar20 at a...> wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about going to movie premeire's?  The 
> premeire in LA is on Nov. 14, and we'll be in LA that week.  I'd 
love 
> to go, but don't know the first thing about them.  Would we even be 
> able to see anything?  Would it be worth the wait?  How early would 
> we need to get there?  Who will be there?  Any info would be 
greatly 
> appreciated!
> 
> Dar




From kellybroughton at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 04:54:46 2002
From: kellybroughton at yahoo.com (kelly broughton)
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: What is TRL and Cute Potter
In-Reply-To: <001501c27aa8$e0efc6e0$bfb021d1@default>
Message-ID: <20021024045446.20513.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com>

Jessica!

I, too, would love a copy. The cable quit working on my tv, and I didn't
even know Danny was on TRL (I missed it the first time too). Email me your
address so I can send you a tape.

-kel

--- Virginia F Garza <flyeagle at the-i.net> wrote:
> 
>    -Jessica, who taped TRL and would be happy to try to make
>    copies for 
>    anyone who missed it. 
> 
> 
>   Jessica,
>   I would also like a copy of TRL.  I missed it because my sister and my
> niece were here.  Please put my name down on your list.  My email is
> flyeagle at the-i.net    Thanks
>   Faye
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 24 11:55:11 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:55:11 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: No Death Day Party? (was: The "hug" in COS)
Message-ID: <F2137AAkY4PK21sEjAJ0000062e@hotmail.com>

Jessica Wrote:

>And no Deathday Party! I'm really disappointed about that -- would
>have been quite a scene. Poor Nearly-Headless Nick -- still can't get
>the recognition he craves!!!


Wait!  Wait one cotton-pickin' minute!  NO Death Day Party?!?!?!  I'm 
miffed!

Sorry, I just had to let that out.  Going back to my filks now...

-Gail B.

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From ronib at mindspring.com  Thu Oct 24 14:15:47 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:15:47 -0000
Subject: kids'  TV appearances
In-Reply-To: <ap67h3+hjnv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap8vaj+ajmj@eGroups.com>

alora wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I caught the TRL show yesterday, but does anyone know of any other 
> appearances any of the HP kids will be making?  I know last year 
> they were on the CBS morning show, Rosie show etc.  Any one have 
> any information?  Thanks!
> 

Veronica replies:

Last week the Leaky Cauldron reported that Entertainment Tonight 
would be talking about CoS. Where I lived, they did talk about it, 
but it was only about 30 seconds worth of coverage. So, I'm not sure 
if TLC was talking about that show or tonight's. Here, the 
following 'episode' of ET is suppose to be available (from TV Guide 
online).
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Entertainment Tonight
Harry, Ron, Hermione and Other `Friends' 
30 min. 
A lively chat with the stars of the "Harry Potter" films:
Daniel 
Radcliffe (Harry Potter), Emma Watson (Hermione Granger) and Rupert 
Grint (Ron Weasley). Also: a preview of tonight's episode 
of "Friends." Hosts: Mary Hart and Bob Goen.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, perhaps this is what TLC was refering to and the SouthEast US is 
just slow getting it, or maybe this is new, or maybe TV Guide is 
wrong. Anyway, you might check out your own listings and see.




From lhlvd at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 14:22:42 2002
From: lhlvd at yahoo.com (lhlvd)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:22:42 -0000
Subject: Pansy Parkinson
Message-ID: <ap8vni+m3ad@eGroups.com>

I searched the posts for mention of Katharine Nicholson and found 
none that addressed the fact that she was NOT cast for the part of 
Pansy Parkinson.  Has anyone else heard anything about this?  Seems 
it was all a hoax started by someone named Brittany Dymock, an 
American journalist.




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 16:02:39 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:02:39 -0000
Subject: UK TV Alert
Message-ID: <ap95iv+j8gf@eGroups.com>

Now that all the US-based folks have had the pleasure of shouting out 
HP appearances in the TV schedules, here's one for us Brits. :-)

Next Thursday and Friday (31st Oct/1st Nov), "This Morning" on ITV1 
is doing two half-hour HP Halloween Specials including appearances by 
the movie stars. 

So make a note for your diaries/set your VCRs: ITV1 12.00-12.30 
lunchtime on 31/10 and 01/11.

Incidentally, it struck me earlier today why the kids are in the US 
this week doing all the publicity: this week is half term (ie school 
holidays) for most of the UK, and I expect that everyone's taking 
advantage of this to minimise school interruptions - press junkets 
etc. in the UK can be done in a single day off school, going to the 
USA can't. :-)

This makes me suspect the possibility that the kids won't be going to 
NY for the gala premiere...


(Has Heidi or anyone else from the Leaky Cauldron seen the above, to 
mention it on the site site?)





From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 16:45:24 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 354-- Eye color/ my apologies
In-Reply-To: <1035452172.435.79629.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021024164525.44983.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Nia said:

 Tut tut, Lilac, you must have missed both Helen and my heartfelt 
apologies.  Qv. Msg 3575 and 3576.

  Me:

I actually *did* miss those messages, because I get the digest (see subject line), so I don't see what anyone else has said until I get all the messages one time per day.  I did see the apologies as I was reading the digest mere moments ago, and then this other message as well, which was after I posted my message yesterday.

Nia:

In messages of this kind, one cannot read emotion or intent.  Neither of our comments were meant to be malicious or demeaning in any way.  I have a rather wicked sense of humor and online, since no one can see when I am teasing or 
being a bit sarcastic, and the winking emoticon is not exactly 
right, I can come off as a bit sniffy.  Both our objections were to 
arguments which basically repeated themselves.  It didn't seem as if 
anyone was considering what had already been said, that is all.  
Really, I'm a very nice person.  


Me:

Helen and Nia, I know that you were not intending to be malicious, and I could tell that the eye discussion was drawing to a close before you both said something about it. You are both forgiven, of course...how can I stay angry at someone who "tut tut's" at me?  ;-) I never was angry, really...I felt a little bad, that's all, and I just wanted to point out that "Cocktail Party" post because I think she brought up some good points.

Now, can you both forgive me for what appears to be a totally rude post, when in fact I didn't see any remarks until this morning?  I really wanted to warn anybody off so that they didn't feel like they had to read it.  Like talking to yourself at a cocktail party.   

Nia:

Now, this post is interesting and merits some discussion.  I think, 
perhaps Columbus' comments would squelch the idea about CG-ing in 
green eyes and the mysterious changes in Daniel's eye color in the 
third trailer.  It will be interesting to see if the environmental 
influences Columbus discusses will be at all distracting during the 
film.  I think that knowing what to expect and exactly why Daniel's 
eyes will remain blue, will greatly ease canon-based fans' anxieties.


Me:

It does mine, at least.  I love green eyes, and I loved that color on the Harry I imagined when reading, because it's such a different color...not many people in this world can say they have *pure* green eyes.  But, knowing that his eyes are blue and they will not change the color CG-wise, I am okay with that because Dan *does* have some really nice blue eyes.  They will probably be vague about eye color in the film (i.e. only saying "You have Lily's eyes" and not mentioning color) and let the natural lighting do it's job.

I think I am stuck on the green-eye thing because I have a theory that they are a link to Lily's past...that she's somehow related to Voldemort/Riddle or Slytherins in general, because the color green seems to represent Slytherins/Voldy (V. ak shoots out green, Green is the house color, etc.).  I always thought that this would lend more credence to Dumbledore's belief that your choices matter more than your genes, especially if he was related somehow.  But it really could be just the shape of eye.  

      
~Lilac, who hopes that Nia and Helen are her friends again...




 

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 24 17:21:50 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:21:50 +0100
Subject: UK TV Alert - yipee
References: <ap95iv+j8gf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000301c27b83$08c5ace0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Thank goodness for that.  For one horrible moment I thought that the whole
cast had emigrated en masse to the U.S. for, more or less, ever.  I shall go
and set my video (if I can remember how to work the darned thing....).  If
any one else hears of anything afoot on British tv let us know.  I would
hate to miss anything simply because I don't watch tv all the time ;-)

Felicia
anxiously awaiting 8th Nov and (hopefully) a free postcard *G*


> Now that all the US-based folks have had the pleasure of shouting out
> HP appearances in the TV schedules, here's one for us Brits. :-)
>
> Next Thursday and Friday (31st Oct/1st Nov), "This Morning" on ITV1
> is doing two half-hour HP Halloween Specials including appearances by
> the movie stars.
>
> So make a note for your diaries/set your VCRs: ITV1 12.00-12.30
> lunchtime on 31/10 and 01/11.
>
> Incidentally, it struck me earlier today why the kids are in the US
> this week doing all the publicity: this week is half term (ie school
> holidays) for most of the UK, and I expect that everyone's taking
> advantage of this to minimise school interruptions - press junkets
> etc. in the UK can be done in a single day off school, going to the
> USA can't. :-)
>
> This makes me suspect the possibility that the kids won't be going to
> NY for the gala premiere...
>
>
> (Has Heidi or anyone else from the Leaky Cauldron seen the above, to
> mention it on the site site?)
>
>
>
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From LynnP333 at aol.com  Thu Oct 24 21:15:56 2002
From: LynnP333 at aol.com (lmpeterson3)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:15:56 -0000
Subject: Architechtural Digest COS Article
Message-ID: <ap9nuc+sj5t@eGroups.com>

FYI Everyone...
Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but..
Check out the new Architechtural Digest-Nov. 2002 for a nice 
multipage article on the sets of 'Chamber of Secrets'.  Some nice 
picts too.

Lynn :-)




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Thu Oct 24 21:16:49 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:16:49 -0500
Subject: Entertainment Tonight
Message-ID: <3DB86341.60304@kingwoodcable.com>

Just as an fyi...

Entertainment Tonight is supposed to have an interview with the kids during 
tonight's show (24th). If you're here in the states, check your local listings.

Take care!
KAtze





From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 24 21:27:53 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:27:53 -0000
Subject: Architechtural Digest COS Article
In-Reply-To: <ap9nuc+sj5t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ap9okp+3m01@eGroups.com>

Lynn wrote:

> Check out the new Architectural Digest-Nov. 2002 for a nice
> multipage article on the sets of 'Chamber of Secrets'.  Some nice
> picts too.



You know Harry Potter has reached an insane popular level when it is
even featured in Architectural Digest!  That is amazing.  Do they
often feature movie sets?  I thought they just focused on the houses I
could never afford, which are thereby decorated by people I could
never hire.

Melody




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 24 21:34:42 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:34:42 +0100
Subject: Architechtural Digest COS Article
References: <ap9okp+3m01@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009701c27ba5$29ff1b40$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I have already put in my order for the AD with my other half who heads into
Central London on a daily basis, now I wait anxiously until he returns......

In any event, they ARE sticking to their usual tenets are they not?
Focussing on a house none of us could afford, decorated and designed by
people who are, ahem, long dead but actually very distinguished, (not
discounting the option JKR has to bring back Godric Gryffindor in person at
some stage....) and who we could never have afforded anyway *G*

Felicia
wondering if she can do her *own* Strawberry Hill Gothic......




> You know Harry Potter has reached an insane popular level when it is
> even featured in Architectural Digest!  That is amazing.  Do they
> often feature movie sets?  I thought they just focused on the houses I
> could never afford, which are thereby decorated by people I could
> never hire.
>
> Melody
>





From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 21:51:15 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:51:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TRL pictures!
Message-ID: <20021024215115.61835.qmail@web40309.mail.yahoo.com>


Here is a link to more pictures from Daniel's TRL appearance:

http://www.danielradclifferocks.com/mtvtrl1002.htm

Babe-in-the-making is right!

~Lilac~

 



 

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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 24 22:44:32 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:44:32 -0000
Subject: TRL and ET
Message-ID: <ap9t4g+e6o4@eGroups.com>

Just wanted to let everyone know I'm recording ET tonight and I'm 
gonna add it to the Dan/TRL tapes, which I'm working on as I type!

-Jessica




From kokobreen at juno.com  Thu Oct 24 22:54:15 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:54:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Architechtural Digest COS Article
Message-ID: <20021024.180050.-218409.0.kokobreen@juno.com>

I actually bought the issue because of Harry Potter.  The cover stated
"Ralph Lauren - Harry Potter".  You know you're big time when you're
mentioned in the same sentence as Ralph Lauren!

Christine

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:27:53 -0000 "Melody" <Malady579 at hotmail.com>
writes:
> Lynn wrote:
> 
> > Check out the new Architectural Digest-Nov. 2002 for a nice
> > multipage article on the sets of 'Chamber of Secrets'.  Some nice
> > picts too.
> 
> 
> 
> You know Harry Potter has reached an insane popular level when it is
> even featured in Architectural Digest!  That is amazing.  Do they
> often feature movie sets?  I thought they just focused on the houses 
> I
> could never afford, which are thereby decorated by people I could
> never hire.
> 
> Melody
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From itzregina at hanson.net  Fri Oct 25 00:01:03 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:01:03 -0000
Subject: Ack!  HP was on E! also!
Message-ID: <apa1jv+2r7d@eGroups.com>

It came on the same time at ET.  Looks like it repeats at 4am :-)  
Don't laugh, but I probably will get up early to watch it.  I missed 
out on most of the promos last year.

Gina




From itzregina at hanson.net  Fri Oct 25 00:06:59 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:06:59 -0000
Subject: What was on ET
Message-ID: <apa1v3+90un@eGroups.com>

On ET they showed Moaning Myrtle flying into the toilet, Bludger 
chase, The twins and Ron hovering outside Harry's window and all 
three said a little something in interviews.  We get a good look at 
Ruperts haircut!

Gina




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Fri Oct 25 00:39:10 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:39:10 -0000
Subject: Digest Number 354-- Eye color and thanks for Dan!
In-Reply-To: <20021024164525.44983.qmail@web40305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apa3re+9b85@eGroups.com>

 Lilac wrote:
><snip> 
> I think I am stuck on the green-eye thing because I have a theory 
that they are a link to Lily's past...that she's somehow related to 
Voldemort/Riddle or Slytherins in general, because the color green 
seems to represent Slytherins/Voldy (V. ak shoots out green, Green 
is the house color, etc.).  I always thought that this would lend 
more credence to Dumbledore's belief that your choices matter more 
than your genes, especially if he was related somehow.  But it 
really could be just the shape of eye.  
> 
>       
> ~Lilac, who hopes that Nia and Helen are her friends again...
> 
> 
> Oh, absolutely!  And I really must apologize again.  With this 
analysis of the books, it would seem essential that Harry's eyes be 
green and I do understand your need for clarification.  But perhaps, 
if Lily is linked to Slytherin in some way, the filmmakers will 
bring out this Slytherin-tie some other way without disturbing canon 
too much (hopefully)! 

--Nia, who thanks you for the link to Dan's TLR pictures, he REALLY 
is becoming a heartbreaker, isn't he?  
> 





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 00:55:12 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:55:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No New Kids!/ Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
References: <ap5hc0+gnbq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <030c01c27bc1$2d6b3360$739ecdd1@istu757>

Jessica writes:

> Has anybody else read the article (linked by TLC) about Chris
> Columbus predicting that the current HP kids will quit after Azkaban?
>
> I'm about ready to pitch a fit -- and just not because I absolutely
> love those kids and refuse to accept anybody else as Harry, Hermione,
> and Ron. But, honestly, the pure impact of Goblet comes from the fact
> that we've grown to know and love Harry and his friends and school

Well, let me throw in my two cents on this.  First, I think Chris Columbus
is viewing things from an emotional, "father" standpoint now. Considering he
is leaving the directing position to be with his family, it's only natural
that he is thinking of the kids the same way.  It's a natural way for a
father to look at things.  Second, it is a long time away.  They won't even
consider the casting of GoF for at least a year and a half.  They haven't
even started a screenplay for GoF.

My personal views on the matter are that I want all of the cast to stay the
same if at all possible.  However, if it comes to a time where Daniel, Emma,
or Rupert are no longer happy with it, no way.  They seem like to sweet of
kids to force into something they don't love.  If they love it then as much
as they do now, go for it.  If they are ever pushed out of the movies to be
replaced by other kids, I will very possibly refuse to see the movie!  Okay,
maybe not, but I'll think about refusing.

Lilac writes:

>
> Okay, the subject is your warning.  If you don't want to partake in this
cocktail party conversation, then by all means, delete this message now.
But please let me have my say...
>

I seriously got the giggles when I read the Chris Columbus interview and saw
that response.  I hope he goes and watches the international trailer because
Daniel's eyes are most definitely green at least in that one scene (where
Lucius moves his hair aside with his snake head cane to see the scar).  And
there's no green around him, it's all black.  And his eyes are as green as,
well, a fresh pickled toad. :)

Richelle




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 00:58:56 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:58:56 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: What is TRL and Cute Potter
References: <20021023002625.51682.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> <001501c27aa8$e0efc6e0$bfb021d1@default>
Message-ID: <032101c27bc1$b2ed5cc0$739ecdd1@istu757>



>   Jessica,
>   I would also like a copy of TRL.  I missed it because my sister and my
niece were here.  Please put my name down on your list.  My email is
flyeagle at the-i.net    Thanks
>   Faye
>

I *think* I have TRL and ET on tape (my aunt was supposed to be copying it
for me.  She had surgery today, but made sure she had the VCR set before she
went in, and she already had TRL taped.  Made me feel bad, here she is
getting to the hospital at 5:30 a.m, but by George she's taping my stuff!).

Anyhow, does anybody by any chance have the stuff from *last* year?
Especially Daniel on Regis & Kelly, I of course was too stupid last year to
know anything about all this.  I was still in HP denial at the time. :)

Lilac writes:

> Here is a link to more pictures from Daniel's TRL appearance:
>
> http://www.danielradclifferocks.com/mtvtrl1002.htm
>
> Babe-in-the-making is right!

He is such a cutie.  That guy on TRL must be a giant.  He makes Daniel look
so tiny!  And wasn't he supposed to have grown, what, six feet?  (just
kidding!)

Richelle






From AfolcfkaJL at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 01:01:58 2002
From: AfolcfkaJL at aol.com (AfolcfkaJL at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:01:58 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: kids'  TV appearances..On E!
Message-ID: <8c.202b5e7b.2ae9f206@aol.com>

Hello everyone! 

E! News live had a preview of COS and spoke to Daniel Radcliffe. I had just 
gotten home and turned the tv on so bear with me, I don't recall everything. 
:-)
The following scenes were shown to the best of my recollection: 
The floo powder scene w/ first Ron going and Harry being surprised at how it 
worked. Then Harry's turn with him hesitating  when he said Diagon Alley. The 
flying car scene. The trio in the bathroom ( site of polyjuice potion 
central) and a bunch of other things which I'm drawing a blank on. They spoke 
to  DR and he spoke about how he once had two people chase him. How some 
friends call him Harry, which was very weird to him (who could blame him). 
How he is proud to be doing the HP films. I must say he looked very handsome 
(<sigh> to be 13 again. LOL) and mature in the interview. To me he is Harry, 
can't imagine anyone else filling his shoes or Rupert and Emma either. The 
interview and scenes lasted probably a few minutes. 

For those in the U.S   E! replays the news live show the following morning 
(Friday 10/25) 7:00 - 7:30 a.m and 7:30 - 8:00 a.m. Eastern time.





From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 01:31:19 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:31:19 -0000
Subject: Dan's Club
In-Reply-To: <8c.202b5e7b.2ae9f206@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apa6t7+22jk@eGroups.com>

< I must say he looked very handsome 
< (<sigh> to be 13 again. LOL) and mature in the interview. 

Wow...I see a frightening trend here (of which I am, of course, a 
part). Are we going to have to start a Daniel Radcliffe for Grown Ups 
list now? LOL...I feel a giggle fit coming on...

-Jessica, who is very, very silly and will be happy when Dan is "of 
age" and she can admire him properly ;-)~ 




From gr8lake5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 02:52:28 2002
From: gr8lake5 at yahoo.com (gr8lake5)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 02:52:28 -0000
Subject: Advanced ticket sales
Message-ID: <apablc+dgd9@eGroups.com>

Hello all!  I just had a quick question for all of you who have 
already gotten their tickets early:  Where did you get them?  I've 
been checking Fandango and they say that I can't buy tickets yet 
for my local theater.  Am I missing something or are they just not 
available yet in the US?  Just wondering!

~Erie (21 days, 2 hrs, 10 min and counting)




From editor at texas.net  Fri Oct 25 03:08:35 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:08:35 -0500
Subject: Lupin suggestion
Message-ID: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net>

Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: Bill
Nighy.

This picture is from a movie I haven't seen, but he was in Blow Dry playing
a contemporary of Alan Rickman, most convincingly, and he has the right
young/old face and a great range. Comments?

(he's the one on the left, the blond one).
http://www.britslash.co.uk/actors/billnighy/bill_nighy.htm

~Amanda




From sequoiajw at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 05:45:02 2002
From: sequoiajw at yahoo.com (Mizz Jackson)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:45:02 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Advanced ticket sales
References: <apablc+dgd9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c27bea$282e93a0$b22367ce@gj1011405onem>

Erie wrote:

>Hello all!  I just had a quick question for all of you who have
already gotten their tickets early:  Where did you get them?  I've
been checking Fandango and they say that I can't buy tickets yet for
my local theater.  Am I missing something or are they just not
available yet in the US?  Just wondering!<<

Oh, I got mine last week at my local regal cinema locale. You might
want to just call up your local theatre (or stop by) & ask if they're
preselling. Nothing against Fandango, but I didn't feel like paying
their extra fee on top of the movie ticket...

Mizz J.





From lucy at luphen.co.uk  Fri Oct 25 06:04:07 2002
From: lucy at luphen.co.uk (Lucy Dawson)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:04:07 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion
References: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <015f01c27bec$5447b8c0$23dfc150@stephen>

Hmm, could work very nicely. But isn't Remus supposed to have light brown
hair - I suppose they can change that easily enough though!

Lucy

Eagerly awaiting November 8th!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Geist" <editor at texas.net>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:08 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion


> Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: Bill
> Nighy.
>
> This picture is from a movie I haven't seen, but he was in Blow Dry
playing
> a contemporary of Alan Rickman, most convincingly, and he has the right
> young/old face and a great range. Comments?
>
> (he's the one on the left, the blond one).
> http://www.britslash.co.uk/actors/billnighy/bill_nighy.htm
>
> ~Amanda
>
>
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From lucy at luphen.co.uk  Fri Oct 25 06:05:28 2002
From: lucy at luphen.co.uk (Lucy Dawson)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:05:28 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan's Club
References: <apa6t7+22jk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <016701c27bec$8471e430$23dfc150@stephen>

> Wow...I see a frightening trend here (of which I am, of course, a
> part). Are we going to have to start a Daniel Radcliffe for Grown Ups
> list now? LOL...I feel a giggle fit coming on...
>
> -Jessica, who is very, very silly and will be happy when Dan is "of
> age" and she can admire him properly ;-)~
>
>
There is a Drifty site around somewhere, I'm sure someone can say where. The
aconym's something like Daniel Radcliffe Is Far Too Young, I think!

Lucy the Drifty




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 08:26:00 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:26:00 -0000
Subject: Dan's Club
In-Reply-To: <016701c27bec$8471e430$23dfc150@stephen>
Message-ID: <apav6o+tjka@eGroups.com>

> There is a Drifty site around somewhere, I'm sure someone can say 
where. The
> aconym's something like Daniel Radcliffe Is Far Too Young, I think!
> 
> Lucy the Drifty


Are you serious?! I was just being cheeky, but I just saw tonight's 
(last night's, rather) ET and that Dan is just too adorable, so I 
suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Someday that kid is going to be a 
very gorgeous man. Hope he's still making movies by then.

-Jessica




From manda at qx.net  Fri Oct 25 14:15:14 2002
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:15:14 -0700
Subject: kids'  TV appearances..On E!
In-Reply-To: <1035525927.1136.12168.m11@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB8EF82.9007.A7D8A2@localhost>

On 25 Oct 2002 at 6:05, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com wrote:
>    From: AfolcfkaJL at aol.com
> 
> For those in the U.S   E! replays the news live show the following
> morning (Friday 10/25) 7:00 - 7:30 a.m and 7:30 - 8:00 a.m. Eastern
> time.

For those who missed (or are about to miss, I'm watching the first rebroadcast now) this 
appearance, the clip is on the E! website:

http://www.eonline.com/Multimedia/index.html?fdmulti2

Manda
watching EW on tape, waiting for the E! clip, and typing this, all at the same time :p
--
http://www.MandaMia.com




From Dar20 at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 12:39:16 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:39:16 -0000
Subject: TRL and ET
In-Reply-To: <ap9t4g+e6o4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apbe1k+qs1b@eGroups.com>

And Jess is the coolest person I know right now!  ;)  LOL!  Thanks, 
Jess.. I'm missing all the promos this year!  Working late sucks.  I 
definitely won't miss the HBO one, though.

Dar

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at y...> 
wrote:
> Just wanted to let everyone know I'm recording ET tonight and I'm 
> gonna add it to the Dan/TRL tapes, which I'm working on as I type!
> 
> -Jessica




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Fri Oct 25 14:54:16 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:54:16 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan's Club
References: <apa6t7+22jk@eGroups.com> <016701c27bec$8471e430$23dfc150@stephen>
Message-ID: <3DB95B18.D9EB8381@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Hiya -- yeah, we exist and have done so for about a year now?

Anyhow -- it's ATADDRIFTY ==  Alas, Though Adorable, Desireable Daniel Really Is Far Too Young.
You can find us at Yahoo! Groups under ataddrifty.

:)
Cheers,
Jenny, also a drifty

Lucy Dawson wrote:

> > Wow...I see a frightening trend here (of which I am, of course, a
> > part). Are we going to have to start a Daniel Radcliffe for Grown Ups
> > list now? LOL...I feel a giggle fit coming on...
> >
> > -Jessica, who is very, very silly and will be happy when Dan is "of
> > age" and she can admire him properly ;-)~
> >
> >
> There is a Drifty site around somewhere, I'm sure someone can say where. The
> aconym's something like Daniel Radcliffe Is Far Too Young, I think!
>
> Lucy the Drifty
>
>




From ronib at mindspring.com  Fri Oct 25 15:06:06 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:06:06 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion
In-Reply-To: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com>

Amanda Geist wrote:
> Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: 
> Bill> Nighy.
> 
> ~Amanda

Ok, don't laugh, but I would really love to see Lupin played by 
Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do 
funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)

Veronica




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 16:06:30 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:06:30 -0000
Subject: Harrah for Rupert!
Message-ID: <apbq66+u9fc@eGroups.com>

The ever-wonderful TLC has this link to an encouraging HP Kids 
article. Perhaps we won't lose them post-PoA after all (I hope, I 
hope!!!):  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_2361000/2361507.stm

-Jessica, who has her fingers *and* toes crossed!




From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 16:09:24 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
In-Reply-To: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021025160924.44336.qmail@web40311.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Veronica <ronib at mindspring.com> wrote:
Amanda Geist wrote:
> Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: 
> Bill> Nighy.
> 
> ~Amanda

Ok, don't laugh, but I would really love to see Lupin played by 
Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do 
funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)

Veronica


I still like Ewan MacGregor for Lupin.  I just watched Moulin Rouge( I know, I am a bit late!)and thought he was wonderful.  He could definitely be a convincing Lupin.

Kristi 


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From primroseburrows at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 16:16:00 2002
From: primroseburrows at yahoo.com (Primrose Burrows)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harrah for Rupert!
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I'd love to get in touch with the people who did the COS pics at this site, because they're all backwards!  You'd think at least with the pics of the Anglia, not to mention the ones of Harry, it'd be obvious.  
 
primrose
 myphilosophy2001 <myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:The ever-wonderful TLC has this link to an encouraging HP Kids 
article. Perhaps we won't lose them post-PoA after all (I hope, I 
hope!!!):  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_2361000/2361507.stm

-Jessica, who has her fingers *and* toes crossed!


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From sequoiajw at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 16:31:48 2002
From: sequoiajw at yahoo.com (Mizz Jackson)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:31:48 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002101c27c44$136b1380$990366ce@gj1011405onem>

Veronica wrote:

>>Ok, don't laugh, but I would really love to see Lupin played by
Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do
funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)<<

OK, another don't laugh, I'm on the other side of the Fiennes camp, I
would love to see Ralph Fiennes as Lupin. Talk about doing tortured
and restrained.

Just my opinion, yours is free to differ.






From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Fri Oct 25 16:43:29 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:43:29 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion----make mine McGregor
In-Reply-To: <20021025160924.44336.qmail@web40311.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apbsbh+k37t@eGroups.com>


> Amanda Geist wrote:
Here's my choice for Remus Lupin:  Bill> Nighy.

Veronica wrote:
I would really love to see Lupin played by 
> Joseph Fiennes <snip> He's so cute 
 
Kristi Smith wrote:
> I still like Ewan MacGregor for Lupin.  <snip> He could definitely 
be a convincing Lupin.

Now, me:
My vote's for Ewan McGregor too.  Yum!
--Nia




From kdavison at shreve.net  Fri Oct 25 16:46:52 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:46:52 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a701c27c46$1f8107e0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

They were discussing who they would like to play various part in PoA, and
someone mentioned Bill Nighy for Lupin (I looked at the pic, NO WAY, uh uh,
no, sorry, that guy is too old and too...  well, not cute.)
Anyway, someone else said...

> I would really love to see Lupin played by
> Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do
> funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)

And I thought about it for a sec, because I do LOOOOVE Joseph Fiennes, he
totally MADE that movie, but I just can't see him as Lupin.  I can, however,
see him as Sirius!  I'm sure he can do "crazy and intent on killing", and I
KNOW he can do "light hearted and funny", both of which is how I see Sirius.
But, someone has a website with a petition (yes, they are nuts) for someone
else to be Sirius.  And I have to admit, this guy would make a great Sirius,
too.  I have only heard one name that I thought would be a good Lupin (but
he probably won't do it, because I would think that HP is competition of
Star Wars) and that would be Ewan McGregor.  When I read Lupin, that is the
closest British actor that resembles my thoughts, but I'm thinking I could
probably come up with a lot of US actors.

Here is the pic of the proposed Lupin (eeww, to even consider it just makes
my stomach hurt!)  He's the one on the left, in the big pic...
http://www.britslash.co.uk/actors/billnighy/bill_nighy.htm






From kdavison at shreve.net  Fri Oct 25 16:49:05 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:49:05 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com> <00a701c27c46$1f8107e0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <001401c27c46$870e2000$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Oh my goodness, that wasn't supposed to go here, this was to my sister, and
I am so embarrassed!  :-o





From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Fri Oct 25 16:50:15 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:50:15 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com> <002101c27c44$136b1380$990366ce@gj1011405onem>
Message-ID: <3DB97647.837E6F09@ka.reg.uci.edu>

well....  Im still in the Colin Firth 4 Lupin boat.
Firth does that soft spoken, but strong thing very well, which is how I imagine Lupin.

I just dont see Ewan McGregor in the role.... though, i do think he's quite lovely.

I wouldnt be opposed to either one of the Fiennes brothers, though.
They'd both be great, i think.

gee, i think we should be casting agents for the film, just so we can see each one of them audition. *smiles*


Mizz Jackson wrote:

> Veronica wrote:
>
> >>Ok, don't laugh, but I would really love to see Lupin played by
> Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do
> funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)<<
>
> OK, another don't laugh, I'm on the other side of the Fiennes camp, I
> would love to see Ralph Fiennes as Lupin. Talk about doing tortured
> and restrained.
>
> Just my opinion, yours is free to differ.




From kdavison at shreve.net  Fri Oct 25 16:50:28 2002
From: kdavison at shreve.net (Kimberly Davison)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:50:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com> <00a701c27c46$1f8107e0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>
Message-ID: <001501c27c46$a06dcaa0$5db4fea9@KimDavison>

Oh, and btw, I hope nobody was offended, because my sister and I use the
word "nuts" as affectionately as can be! LOL  I call my children "nuts" all
the time, and refer to her and myself and HP Nuts!  LOL
I am so sorry about that, I totally feel dumb!
Kimberly





From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Fri Oct 25 16:52:02 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:52:02 -0000
Subject: Harrah for Rupert!
In-Reply-To: <apbq66+u9fc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apbsri+ds0e@eGroups.com>

Jessica wrote:
> The ever-wonderful TLC has this link to an encouraging HP Kids 
> article. Perhaps we won't lose them post-PoA after all (I hope, I 
> hope!!!):  
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_2361000/2361507.stm

I think we all have breathed a collective sigh of relief.  So nice to 
see Jessica relax a bit. And, just for the record, the members of the 
Trio are perfectly normal-sized kids (a lot shorter than many 13-year-
olds I know).  As far as I'm concerned, all the fuss about them being 
too big is brolly hogwash.
--Nia





From divaclv at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 17:06:18 2002
From: divaclv at aol.com (c_voth312)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:06:18 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion
In-Reply-To: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apbtma+drdh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Veronica" <ronib at m...> wrote:

> 
> Ok, don't laugh, but I would really love to see Lupin played by 
> Joseph Fiennes of Shakespeare in Love fame. He's so cute--he can do 
> funny and thoughtful, as well as troubled and tortured. =)
> 
> Veronica

Joseph Fiennes...yeah, I think I could see that.  Though for my 
money, I'd still love to see Anthony Stewart-Head do it--he's pretty 
good with the quiet and studious but with some huge secrets and a bad 
side you really don't want to get on thing :-)

My problem with Ewan McGregor is that I tend to think of him in 
younger roles.  He's a good actor, though, and I will concede that he 
could very well surprise me.

~Christi




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 17:14:08 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:14:08 +0100
Subject: Daniel Radcliffe for Grown Ups
References: <apa6t7+22jk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c27c49$edfc7fc0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I have been sniffing around TLC and sundry sites offering pictures of Daniel
and must confess he really does look like a nice kid who justifies the
admiration.  (I don't think any of the boys were that good looking at my
school...) As long as we can avoid the *eye* thing here maybe we can start a
sub-section, after all the book department has its TBAY, we can have DRfGU
*G*

I would love them all to stay, but as people have said, the kids might
change and who are we to stop them wanting to be rocket scientists or
farmers should they wish to.  Me?   I'd stick with it and go back for my
eduction with lots in the bank!

Felicia



> < I must say he looked very handsome
> < (<sigh> to be 13 again. LOL) and mature in the interview.
>
> Wow...I see a frightening trend here (of which I am, of course, a
> part). Are we going to have to start a Daniel Radcliffe for Grown Ups
> list now? LOL...I feel a giggle fit coming on...
>
> -Jessica, who is very, very silly and will be happy when Dan is "of
> age" and she can admire him properly ;-)~





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 17:15:35 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:15:35 +0100
Subject: Advanced ticket sales
References: <apablc+dgd9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004501c27c4a$221ac8c0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

Are there not going to be any advance previews like there are here in the
U.K?  Odeon cinemas and WarnerVillage multiplexes have all had advance sales
available for some time now.

I have a ticket booked for 8 November and I know there are a further two
that weekend.

Felicia






From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 17:25:38 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:25:38 +0100
Subject: Lupin suggestion - definitely a Feinnes
References: <apbsbh+k37t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <008601c27c4b$89823b00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

As Corgi seems to have Siriusly taken on Jason Carter, our Lupin is,
obviously due for some major attention.  OK so I have got to weigh in with
agreements and disagreements:-

Bill Nighy - too old (no, no, no, no, no) not even close......
Colin Firth - Mmmmmm????
Ewan McGregor (possible, very possible)
Joseph Feinnes (Yo!!!! Definitely)  Joseph for Remus Oooh Ooh Yaaay

Wishlist :-

A sort of older Daniel Radcliffe type with a tired look in his eyes and
slightly greying hair.

And, <pauses for breath > having just finished my dvd (again) I have come to
the conclusion that  the kids seem to have shadows under their eyes most of
the time, and Rupert looks dead on his feet when they rush in to see
McGonagle about the Philosopher's Stone (lie he had been to an all night
party or something!)

Felicia


>
> > Amanda Geist wrote:
> Here's my choice for Remus Lupin:  Bill> Nighy.
>
> Veronica wrote:
> I would really love to see Lupin played by
> > Joseph Fiennes <snip> He's so cute
>
> Kristi Smith wrote:
> > I still like Ewan MacGregor for Lupin.  <snip> He could definitely
> be a convincing Lupin.
>
> Now, me:
> My vote's for Ewan McGregor too.  Yum!
> --Nia





From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 17:39:35 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:39:35 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion----make mine McGregor
In-Reply-To: <apbsbh+k37t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apbvkn+mmue@eGroups.com>

> > Amanda Geist wrote:
> Here's my choice for Remus Lupin:  Bill> Nighy.
> 
> Veronica wrote:
> I would really love to see Lupin played by 
> > Joseph Fiennes <snip> He's so cute 
>  
> Kristi Smith wrote:
> > I still like Ewan MacGregor for Lupin.  <snip> He could 
definitely 
> be a convincing Lupin.
> 
> Now, me:
> My vote's for Ewan McGregor too.  Yum!
> --Nia

Nia, what a surprise we agree on this issue ;-)

I am soooo in the Ewan camp. It's horrible -- I've all ready become 
too attached to the idea. Can't see him on TV without stopping and 
thinking A.) "Look it's Lupin!" and then B.) "And is he ever 
georgeous..."

Hehe. I swear I really am more mature than this. I know I sound like 
a teeny-bopper every time I post. 

BTW, if I can't have Ewan, Christian Bale would be a perfectly 
acceptable replacement. Yes, he is a bit young, but he definitely has 
the look (at least the look I imagined) and he's a terrific actor.

Don't know what I'll do if they get someone icky to play dear Lupin...

-Jessica, who's slightly bummed that all us Yankees have to wait 
until Nov. 15 to see CoS when everyone across the water gets to enjoy 
it on the 8th. 




From itzregina at hanson.net  Fri Oct 25 17:42:39 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0000
Subject: And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
Message-ID: <apbvqf+s7dt@eGroups.com>

Have you seen the pics from the London conference?  I must say I was 
rather surprised to the "maturation" of Emma.  I guess sweaters and 
robes hide a lot ;-)

http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?hc=12&hs=1&p=%22harry+potter%
22&c=news_photos

Gina




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 17:51:19 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:51:19 -0000
Subject: And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
In-Reply-To: <apbvqf+s7dt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apc0an+pfi2@eGroups.com>

> Have you seen the pics from the London conference?  I must say I 
was 
> rather surprised to the "maturation" of Emma.  I guess sweaters and 
> robes hide a lot ;-)

Yes! I was rather surprised by that, as well. I hope Emma doesn't go 
Britney on us. Hermione in thigh-highs, a mini-mini-mini-Gryffindor 
skirt, and a belly shirt? Hmmm....NO! hehe. Would be funny to see 
Harry and Ron's reactions, though. 

But no wonder Dan didn't mind hugging her. Little girls all over the 
world must be plotting her demise right now...

-Jessica, who, back in the day, hated Tiffany when she got too 
friendly with the New Kids on the Block (*how embarrassing*)




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 18:01:56 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:01:56 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion----make mine McGregor
In-Reply-To: <apbvkn+mmue@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apc0uk+tk0i@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "myphilosophy2001" <myphilosophy2001 at y...>  
> I am soooo in the Ewan camp. It's horrible -- I've all ready 
become 
> too attached to the idea. Can't see him on TV without stopping and 
> thinking A.) "Look it's Lupin!" and then B.) "And is he ever 
> georgeous..."
> 
> Hehe. I swear I really am more mature than this. I know I sound 
like 
> a teeny-bopper every time I post. 
> 
> Don't know what I'll do if they get someone icky to play dear 
Lupin...


YESSSS, Ewan it is!  :D  I am so spoiled, myself, I can't picture 
anyone else, either.  Bring him on!!!! 


Alora




From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 18:11:39 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lupin suggestion
In-Reply-To: <apc0uk+tk0i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021025181139.60704.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com>

For you consideration I offer you "my" ultimate Lupin inteh
flesh Christian Bale
(scroll WAY down once you get to the page)

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2001_06_24_archive.html

OR try this link

http://www.foxsearchlight.com/midfinal/html/christian.html



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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 18:29:45 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
In-Reply-To: <apbvqf+s7dt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021025182945.73970.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Regina <itzregina at hanson.net> wrote:
Have you seen the pics from the London conference?  I must say I was 
rather surprised to the "maturation" of Emma.  I guess sweaters and 
robes hide a lot ;-)

http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?hc=12&hs=1&p=%22harry+potter%
22&c=news_photos

Gina

I have to agree Gina.  My jaw kind of dropped when I saw that photo.  I have a daughter who is also 12, and I was a little taken aback.  Robes and sweaters DO  hide a lot.

Kristi

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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 18:45:56 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:45:56 +0100
Subject: And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
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It's amazing what the right underwear and a clingy top can do for the
cameras.

I really like the way she has dressed up.  If the rumour is correct and Ron
and Hermione are an item in a later book, then Ron won't be too badly off!

Felicia


>
>
>  Regina <itzregina at hanson.net> wrote:
> Have you seen the pics from the London conference?  I must say I was
> rather surprised to the "maturation" of Emma.  I guess sweaters and
> robes hide a lot ;-)
>
> http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?hc=12&hs=1&p=%22harry+potter%
> 22&c=news_photos
>
> Gina
>
> I have to agree Gina.  My jaw kind of dropped when I saw that photo.  I
have a daughter who is also 12, and I was a little taken aback.  Robes and
sweaters DO  hide a lot.
>
> Kristi
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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 18:53:44 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:53:44 +0100
Subject: Architectural Digest article
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Message-ID: <001301c27c57$d8313e20$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

I sent my other half of to collect a copy of the Architectural Digest,
reported to be the home of an interesting article on CoS.

If you have not already found one be warned, it is about the size and weight
of several house bricks.  I have this on good authority, as it is currently
being carried home by my other half, for my sole benefit *ahem*

I think it is as well that I bought the tickets for our visit to CoS on
8/11!!!

Felicia





From primroseburrows at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 20:04:05 2002
From: primroseburrows at yahoo.com (Primrose Burrows)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion----make mine McGregor
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Message-ID: <20021025200405.90594.qmail@web12902.mail.yahoo.com>


myphilosophy2001 <myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am soooo in the Ewan camp. It's horrible -- I've all ready become 
>too attached to the idea. Can't see him on TV without stopping and 
>thinking A.) "Look it's Lupin!" and then B.) "And is he ever gorgeous..."

 

Ewan's been my favorite actor for years now, and I've thought of him as perfect for Lupin from the time I knew who Lupin was.

 

Ewan's got a light-up-your-face mischievous smile, as well (although how much he'd use it as Lupin is debatable). 

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From lilac_bearry at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 20:14:53 2002
From: lilac_bearry at yahoo.com (Lilac)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
Message-ID: <20021025201453.74592.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com>


Felicia said:

<<<A sort of older Daniel Radcliffe type with a tired look in his eyes and
slightly greying hair.>>>

How about Dan's dad? He, he J/K 


Jessica said:

<<<BTW, if I can't have Ewan, Christian Bale would be a perfectly 
acceptable replacement. Yes, he is a bit young, but he definitely has 
the look (at least the look I imagined) and he's a terrific actor.>>>

Nia and Jessica (regarding McGregor), I agree on something with *both* of you?  Can you believe it?  I'm being sarcastic; I know we agree on some things! ;-) 

I am undecided between Ewan McGregor and Christian Bale myself.  Probably leaning a little more towards Christian (yes, we're on a first name basis) because he has the Lupin hair thing going for him.  But, I must admit, I see Ewan as more of the gentle teacher (probably because of the SW stuff, but please, NO beard!).  So, I'm torn.

Also, Jessica, maker of the videos...are you seriously going to make copies for everyone who wants one?  We'll happily pay you for them, I'm sure, with the tape cost and shipping.  You are incredible!  Count me in!  I don't have cable (hears collective gasp from the group)...I know, I know...I'm so backwards...why pay for more t.v. when my family watches enough as it is,  that's my reasoning.  All I need is "Scrubs" and all my kids need is "PBS" cartoons (less violent than the other channels).  

<<<Hehe. I swear I really am more mature than this. I know I sound like 
a teeny-bopper every time I post.>>> 


Same here, Jessica...same here.   

~Lilac, who really needs to act her age...but just can't help herself :-) 




 

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From iwant12 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 25 20:18:31 2002
From: iwant12 at hotmail.com (fruhu)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:18:31 -0000
Subject: And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
In-Reply-To: <20021025182945.73970.qmail@web40312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apc8un+dpa6@eGroups.com>

>  Regina <itzregina at h...> wrote: I guess sweaters and 
> robes hide a lot ;-)


Weeell... A bra can add a lot too you know... And the way she wanted 
to show off and have her body in a profile in every picture, it's 
very possible she has simply discovered the delights of the push-up 
bra. Let's not jump to drastic conclusions - she's only twelve. 

F




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 20:44:21 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:44:21 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin suggestion
References: <apbmku+i388@eGroups.com> <002101c27c44$136b1380$990366ce@gj1011405onem> <3DB97647.837E6F09@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <00f901c27c67$4caa4c60$139dcdd1@istu757>

Jennifer writes:

> well....  Im still in the Colin Firth 4 Lupin boat.
> Firth does that soft spoken, but strong thing very well, which is how I
imagine Lupin.

I would love for Colin Firth to be Lupin, but I think that's a bit too good
to be true. :)

> I just dont see Ewan McGregor in the role.... though, i do think he's
quite lovely.

I think he would make a good Lupin, BUT I still insist he's got a previous
engagement in Australia that would occupy a bit too much of his time. :)

> gee, i think we should be casting agents for the film, just so we can see
each one of them audition. *smiles*

I think we could do a fine job.  For a very small fee.  They couldn't get a
better bargain for casting directors, really.

Richelle

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Oct 25 20:51:56 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:51:56 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: And we thought the GUYS were maturing!
References: <apc8un+dpa6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <012101c27c68$5c6410e0$139dcdd1@istu757>

Fruhu writes:

> Weeell... A bra can add a lot too you know... And the way she wanted
> to show off and have her body in a profile in every picture, it's
> very possible she has simply discovered the delights of the push-up
> bra. Let's not jump to drastic conclusions - she's only twelve.

My, my, Emma certainly does have the stance down, doesn't she?  I will
refrain from further comments.  There.

On another note, these kids must be exhausted!  Daniel, however, must be
staying pumped up on caffeine to look that perky.  Rupert, on the other
hand, looked rather tired in some of those pictures.

Richelle




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 20:51:29 2002
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:51:29 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
Message-ID: <apcash+am0q@eGroups.com>

Just saw on FOX news that Richard Harris died today at a London 
hospital. 

~Deborah




From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 20:54:49 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:54:49 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <apcash+am0q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apcb2p+lbka@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Scully931" <scully931 at y...> wrote:
> Just saw on FOX news that Richard Harris died today at a London 
> hospital. 
> 
> ~Deborah

I saw that too, Deborah.  I know the actors from HP must be very sad 
right now, as we are.  Next to Ceasar in "Gladiator", Dumbledore was 
my favorite character he portrayed.

Alora




From ed4u at attbi.com  Fri Oct 25 21:09:48 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:09:48 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Richard Harris
References: <apcash+am0q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003401c27c6a$da79fb00$6401a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

OMG I SEE IT ON THEIR HEADLINES!! SNIFF SNIFF!!! What now!!!

Katy now totally bummed!!!!

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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Richard Harris


> Just saw on FOX news that Richard Harris died today at a London
> hospital.
>
> ~Deborah
>
>
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From porphyria at mindspring.com  Fri Oct 25 21:06:55 2002
From: porphyria at mindspring.com (Porphyria Ashenden)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:06:55 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <003401c27c6a$da79fb00$6401a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <apcbpf+ddpu@eGroups.com>

Yes, this is very sad news indeed:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/25/harris.obit/

~Porphyria




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 21:28:17 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:28:17 -0000
Subject: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
In-Reply-To: <20021025201453.74592.qmail@web40302.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apcd1h+rt83@eGroups.com>

<<<<< Also, Jessica, maker of the videos...are you seriously going to 
make copies for everyone who wants one? We'll happily pay you for 
them, I'm sure, with the tape cost and shipping.>>>>>

Already had you on the list, Lilac! Hehe. They're being a bit 
persnickity right now, but I'm almost done! And for an update, it 
will have:

* The WB/Family Affair CoS Preview 

* TRL w/ Dan

* ET segment on CoS

* E! segment on CoS

I'm hard at work!

-Jessica


P.S. Everyone -- Would $5 be too much to ask for each tape?




--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Lilac <lilac_bearry at y...> wrote:
> 
> Felicia said:
> 
> <<<A sort of older Daniel Radcliffe type with a tired look in his 
eyes and
> slightly greying hair.>>>
> 
> How about Dan's dad? He, he J/K 
> 
> 
> Jessica said:
> 
> <<<BTW, if I can't have Ewan, Christian Bale would be a perfectly 
> acceptable replacement. Yes, he is a bit young, but he definitely 
has 
> the look (at least the look I imagined) and he's a terrific 
actor.>>>
> 
> Nia and Jessica (regarding McGregor), I agree on something with 
*both* of you?  Can you believe it?  I'm being sarcastic; I know we 
agree on some things! ;-) 
> 
> I am undecided between Ewan McGregor and Christian Bale myself.  
Probably leaning a little more towards Christian (yes, we're on a 
first name basis) because he has the Lupin hair thing going for him.  
But, I must admit, I see Ewan as more of the gentle teacher (probably 
because of the SW stuff, but please, NO beard!).  So, I'm torn.
> 
> Also, Jessica, maker of the videos...are you seriously going to 
make copies for everyone who wants one?  We'll happily pay you for 
them, I'm sure, with the tape cost and shipping.  You are 
incredible!  Count me in!  I don't have cable (hears collective gasp 
from the group)...I know, I know...I'm so backwards...why pay for 
more t.v. when my family watches enough as it is,  that's my 
reasoning.  All I need is "Scrubs" and all my kids need is "PBS" 
cartoons (less violent than the other channels).  
> 
> <<<Hehe. I swear I really am more mature than this. I know I sound 
like 
> a teeny-bopper every time I post.>>> 
> 
> 
> Same here, Jessica...same here.   
> 
> ~Lilac, who really needs to act her age...but just can't help 
herself :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> "Tut, tut --- hardly any of you remembered that my favorite color 
is *lilac*. 
> 
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> 
> 
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From alchemillalady at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 21:30:48 2002
From: alchemillalady at aol.com (alchemillalady at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:30:48 EDT
Subject: Videotaping the ITV HP special
Message-ID: <54.e28dec.2aeb1208@aol.com>

Hey we will be on holiday next week for the half term break, and want to tape 
the ITV HP special (showing on British TV, sorry yanks).  

I am desperately looking for the "Pluscode" number to program into my VCR.  
Those codes will come out in the Sunday newspaper TV listings, but I need it 
NOW, as we will be gone by then.

Anybody know where I can find TV listings with that little pluscode number 
beside it?

Wow, what a shock about Richard Harris!  

--Thanks, Alchemilla


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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Fri Oct 25 21:31:22 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:31:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Richard Harris
References: <apcbpf+ddpu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB9B82A.4000104@kingwoodcable.com>

Is there a place setup, like a bulletin board, where we can send out 
condolences? I thought he was going to get better - this is unfortante and very sad.

May he find happiness in his next great advendure...

Katze

Porphyria Ashenden wrote:
> Yes, this is very sad news indeed:
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/25/harris.obit/
> 
> ~Porphyria
> 
> 
> 
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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Fri Oct 25 21:33:10 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:33:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
References: <apcd1h+rt83@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB9B895.7A9344FF@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Do you have HBO?   I dont get HBO anymore -- if you do and can include that special on the tape, I will definitely
pay $5 !!!    :)


myphilosophy2001 wrote:

> <<<<< Also, Jessica, maker of the videos...are you seriously going to
> make copies for everyone who wants one? We'll happily pay you for
> them, I'm sure, with the tape cost and shipping.>>>>>
>
> Already had you on the list, Lilac! Hehe. They're being a bit
> persnickity right now, but I'm almost done! And for an update, it
> will have:
>
> * The WB/Family Affair CoS Preview
>
> * TRL w/ Dan
>
> * ET segment on CoS
>
> * E! segment on CoS
>
> I'm hard at work!
>
> -Jessica
>
> P.S. Everyone -- Would $5 be too much to ask for each tape?




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Oct 25 21:32:26 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:32:26 +0100
Subject: Videotaping the ITV HP special - more info requested
References: <54.e28dec.2aeb1208@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002001c27c6e$039469a0$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>

OK Alchemilla

Can we have times and dates for the HP special please.

Felicia


> Hey we will be on holiday next week for the half term break, and want to
tape
> the ITV HP special (showing on British TV, sorry yanks).
>
> I am desperately looking for the "Pluscode" number to program into my VCR.
> Those codes will come out in the Sunday newspaper TV listings, but I need
it
> NOW, as we will be gone by then.
>
> Anybody know where I can find TV listings with that little pluscode number
> beside it?
>
> Wow, what a shock about Richard Harris!
>
> --Thanks, Alchemilla
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 21:34:43 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
In-Reply-To: <apcd1h+rt83@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021025213443.89308.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com>


>  P.S. Everyone -- Would $5 be too much to ask for each
> tape?
> 

Heaven's to Merlin, no, it's not too much at all. Would you
like me to send you a blank tape as well?

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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 21:42:18 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:42:18 -0000
Subject: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
In-Reply-To: <20021025213443.89308.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apcdrq+fnhr@eGroups.com>


Jennifer:
As long as you don't mind waiting a bit longer for the tape, I'd be 
more than happy to tape the HBO First Look for you. I think it starts 
airing on Nov. 4th (yes, I had the date memorized...)

Barbara:
If you send me a blank tape, I'll send it right back! :-P 
HeHe. Actually, part of the $5.00 covers the tape, so you're just 
fine.

BTW, I'm so very sad about Richard Harris I don't even think I know 
what to say about it, which, indeed, is saying something!!!

-Jess





From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Fri Oct 25 21:48:41 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:48:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Richard Harris
References: <apcb2p+lbka@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB9BC39.2040002@kingwoodcable.com>

He was good as Ceasar, but I liked his character in the Count of Monte Cristo 
better. That was great!

Katze

alora wrote:
> 
> I saw that too, Deborah.  I know the actors from HP must be very sad 
> right now, as we are.  Next to Ceasar in "Gladiator", Dumbledore was 
> my favorite character he portrayed.
> 
> Alora





From alchemillalady at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 21:51:49 2002
From: alchemillalady at aol.com (alchemillalady at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:51:49 EDT
Subject: ITV HP Special
Message-ID: <6e.2510ffbe.2aeb16f5@aol.com>

I got this info from plumeski on this list, and I checked out the ITV 
website.  Sure enough it's on ITV1 

    31 Oct     12 noon - 12:30
      1 Nov     12 noon - 12:30

Soooo, any ideas about that pluscode number??  Anyone?  (I've made a deal to 
exchange videos with an American HP fan --yes, yes, we know about the 
different regions -- and I need to have something to offer her!!!  She'll 
have Oprah, E! tonight, HBO and who knows what else!)

--Alchemilla


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From sugarkadi at aol.com  Fri Oct 25 21:54:06 2002
From: sugarkadi at aol.com (sugarkadi at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:54:06 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Richard Harris
Message-ID: <158.16758f4b.2aeb177e@aol.com>

OMGOMGOMG  I just can't believe it.  I went to the leaky cauldron and i was 
shocked2, then i just started crying.  I turned on the news and it was 
running across the bottom that he died.  omg.  im crying so hard but it cant 
be anything compared to how the people in harry potter and his family feels.  
i wonder if the cast will wear black at the premier.  i just cant believe 
this...
katey


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From wsherratt3338 at rogers.com  Fri Oct 25 22:03:54 2002
From: wsherratt3338 at rogers.com (Wanda Sherratt)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:03:54 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <3DB9B82A.4000104@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <apcf4a+snn7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> Is there a place setup, like a bulletin board, where we can send 
out 
> condolences? I thought he was going to get better - this is 
unfortante and very sad.
> 
>
Yes, me too.  They said he was responding well to treatment, but at 
72, it must have just been too much for him.  Poor fellow - it must 
have been sudden, and I hope he didn't suffer.

Wanda





From nplyon at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 22:04:08 2002
From: nplyon at yahoo.com (Nicole L.)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Richard Harris
Message-ID: <20021025220408.43349.qmail@web20902.mail.yahoo.com>

I was just following the link that someone posted for
some pics from the HP press conference and instead the
results pulled up news reports indicating that Richard
Harris has passed away.  Oh no!  That is just too sad!
 I don't even know what to say.  What a terrible loss!

http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?hc=12&hs=1&p=%22harry+potter%22&c=news_photos

~Nicole

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From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Fri Oct 25 22:06:22 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:06:22 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Lupin: McGregor or Bale?/Video Copies
References: <apcdrq+fnhr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DB9C05E.D0F3481F@ka.reg.uci.edu>

Hiya!
oh THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I dont mind waiting at all!! :)  (not that I have a choice as it hasnt aired yet!)

You rock!!

myphilosophy2001 wrote:

> Jennifer:
> As long as you don't mind waiting a bit longer for the tape, I'd be
> more than happy to tape the HBO First Look for you. I think it starts
> airing on Nov. 4th (yes, I had the date memorized...)
>
> Barbara:
> If you send me a blank tape, I'll send it right back! :-P
> HeHe. Actually, part of the $5.00 covers the tape, so you're just
> fine.
>
> BTW, I'm so very sad about Richard Harris I don't even think I know
> what to say about it, which, indeed, is saying something!!!
>
> -Jess
>
>
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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 22:16:57 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <3DB9BC39.2040002@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <20021025221657.58960.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Katze <jdumas at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
> He was good as Ceasar, but I liked his character in
> the Count of Monte Cristo 
> better. That was great!
> 
> Katze

I loved him in The Count of Monte CRisto as well. He
was an extraordinary actor.
Kristi

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From annahemmant at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Oct 25 22:20:17 2002
From: annahemmant at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Anna=20Hemmant?=)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:20:17 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Videotaping the ITV HP special - more info requested
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Whoever it is that wants the plus code for this harry potter business, I don't know it, but you can find out from heat. The copy with next week's tv listings came out on tuesday. It costs ?1.50 ish, you can pick it up in any half decent news agent. 




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From editor at texas.net  Fri Oct 25 23:12:06 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:12:06 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion - definitely a Feinnes
References: <apbsbh+k37t@eGroups.com> <008601c27c4b$89823b00$429f5651@tinyjyuaxzlq>
Message-ID: <005f01c27c7b$f8d18ee0$fb04a6d8@texas.net>

> Bill Nighy - too old (no, no, no, no, no) not even close......

Remember, all of you, that Lupin is exactly the same age as Snape, and so
the actor to play him must be convincing and believable with Alan
Rickman....if an older Lupin is the price I must pay to have a Rickman
Snape, then I will pay it. This is why I thought Bill Nighy, because he has
a young-ish face for an older man.

~Amanda






From spellbound_hogwarts_gryffindor at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 23:16:17 2002
From: spellbound_hogwarts_gryffindor at yahoo.com (~SpellBound Gryffindor~)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:16:17 -0000
Subject: ~*~ Richard Harris Actor Who Plays Dumbledore In Harry Potter Movies Died 
Message-ID: <apcjc1+t1mr@eGroups.com>


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   Richard Harris... the actor who played  Albus
Dumbledore in the first 2 Harry Potter movies... sadly
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the blood... I am devastated...! {weeping}

   The replacement for the Richard Harris actor for
Dumbledore... has been chosen...and his name is Harry
Robinson...He is said to look and sound just like
Richard Harris... and will be able to be a goode
Dumbledore in the future Harry Potter movies....

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From kellybroughton at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 23:26:48 2002
From: kellybroughton at yahoo.com (kelly broughton)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Video Copies
In-Reply-To: <apcd1h+rt83@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021025232648.15402.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>

Let me know where to mail the check!

-kel

> Already had you on the list, Lilac! Hehe. They're being a bit 
> persnickity right now, but I'm almost done! And for an update, it 
> will have:
> 
> * The WB/Family Affair CoS Preview 
> 
> * TRL w/ Dan
> 
> * ET segment on CoS
> 
> * E! segment on CoS
> 
> I'm hard at work!
> 
> -Jessica
> 
> 
> P.S. Everyone -- Would $5 be too much to ask for each tape?
> 


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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 25 23:56:09 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:56:09 -0000
Subject: "Total Film"
Message-ID: <apclmp+843u@eGroups.com>

I spent some time looking through the next month's cinema magazines 
which were published today ("Empire" had nothing except for the 
photos we've seen all opver the place and "Film Review" has been 
delayed until Monday). Total Film though (sorry, they don't have a 
website), had several pages off stuff, including brief vignette 
interviews with Hardy, Henderson, Isaacs and Williams.

I don't remember all the details and the quotes below are 
paraphrases, but here are a few highlights, (I'm saving what I 
thought was a corker for the end):

All four were asked the same short 10 answers; the ones I 
remember/found interesting were: 

"What was it like to come into an established franchise?" 
All said it was great fun; I was amused by Jason Issacs' comment that 
he'd based Lucius on the way Tom Felton had played Draco in PS/SS. "I 
decided that Draco was bullied by his father which is what made him 
into the git he is" ("git" was the word Isaacs used) :-) "The first 
thing I did at our first rehearsal was to smack Tom Felton across the 
head just to make sure he knew what our characters' relationship was 
going to be. He took it in good spirit." 

"What great props did you get to use?"
Isaacs waxed lyrical about his snake-head staff, which he insisted 
did all his acting for him. :-) Williams ent on about Bonnie Wright 
choosing his wand.

"Did you have input into your appearance?"
Isaacs again: "I met the costume designers, and they said 'we picture 
you with cropped hair and a pinstripe suit'. Strange, 'cos I see 
myself with waist-length hair and a paisley robe. 'Shit', said the 
costume designers."

"Did you read the books before you got the part?"
Only Williams had ("since the beginning, and I mean beginning"), and 
revealed that he'd actively campaigned to do the audiobooks... Hardy 
said he hasn't even bothered reading them since he got the part 'cos 
he wants the scripts to be a surprise as he reads them. He considers 
them "not for his age range". (WHAT?!?) Isaacs admitted that he read 
the four books back-to-back over two sleepless days after he'd got 
the part. :-)

And the corker I'd promised:

"What about your future involvement in the franchise?"
Both Hardy and Williams said that they'll be reprising their roles as 
Fudge and Arthur in PoA, and have been told provisionally to make 
themselves available from February.

Both Henderson and Isaacs (Myrtle and Lucius don't appear in PoA)  
answered that they've been told to make themselves available for 
filming GOF "at the end of 2004".

This seems to go against Columbus's statement in the American 
interviews that they've not made any decisions about making GoF yet...

Incidentally, I knew along that Columbus would be eating his words 
about raising doubts about the kids going beyond PoA. :-)

BTW, a note on Richard Harris. Let's be honest: the news wasn't 
really *that* much of a surprise. After it sunk in and I had a little 
meditative moment for him, I thought to myself (and I mean this in 
the most affectionate way!):

Typical Harris. Trouble-maker to the end. He just *had* to die on the 
day of the press conference about his last film, didn't he? So that 
all the news programmes changed their HP-related stories from 
covering the press launch, to talking exclusively about him. :-) 






From editor at texas.net  Sat Oct 26 00:59:16 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:59:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ~*~ Richard Harris Actor Who Plays Dumbledore In Harry Potter Movies Died
References: <apcjc1+t1mr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c27c8a$e9383060$ae04a6d8@texas.net>

Some lurker with no sense of occasion, punctuation, or spelling posted to
every list he knew of:

>    The replacement for the Richard Harris actor for
> Dumbledore... has been chosen...and his name is Harry
> Robinson...He is said to look and sound just like
> Richard Harris... and will be able to be a goode
> Dumbledore in the future Harry Potter movies....

I doubt this sincerely. Even considering WB the corporate machine that it
is, I doubt they'd announce (or leak) a replacement on the day that the
principal died...

If you intend to spread such rumors, at least *try* to come up with a
source, please.

~Amanda, who didn't really like Harris' Dumbledore but hoped it would take
at *least* 24 hours before we started replacing him




From pbnesbit at msn.com  Sat Oct 26 01:02:31 2002
From: pbnesbit at msn.com (harpdreamer)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:02:31 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <20021025221657.58960.qmail@web40304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apcpj7+gtq7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Kristi Smith <kristilynn5 at y...> wrote:
> --- Katze <jdumas at k...> wrote:
> > He was good as Ceasar, but I liked his character in
> > the Count of Monte Cristo 
> > better. That was great!
> > 
> > Katze
> 
> I loved him in The Count of Monte CRisto as well. He
> was an extraordinary actor.
> Kristi


Does *anyone* besides me remember him in "A Man Called Horse", "This 
Sporting Life", or any of the other (good) films he was in (I'd just 
as soon forget "Camelot")?  

He played dangerous extremely well when he was young.  If you get a 
chance, rent some of his older films.  They convey his acting ability 
far better than his portrayal of Dumbledore did. (I haven't 
seen "Gladiator" or "Count of Monte Cristo" yet) 

Parker, feeling old
> 




From pbnesbit at msn.com  Sat Oct 26 01:06:16 2002
From: pbnesbit at msn.com (harpdreamer)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:06:16 -0000
Subject: Lupin suggestion - definitely a Feinnes
In-Reply-To: <005f01c27c7b$f8d18ee0$fb04a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apcpq8+2ne5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> > Bill Nighy - too old (no, no, no, no, no) not even close......
> 
> Remember, all of you, that Lupin is exactly the same age as Snape, 
and so
> the actor to play him must be convincing and believable with Alan
> Rickman....if an older Lupin is the price I must pay to have a 
Rickman
> Snape, then I will pay it. This is why I thought Bill Nighy, 
because he has
> a young-ish face for an older man.
> 
> ~Amanda


...And besides, he has a *wonderful* voice; kind, gentle (he played 
Samwise in the BBC's Radio Play of "The Lord of the Rings").  

Not as sexy as Alan Rickman's, but they broke the mould when they 
gave him his voice.  


Parker




From corgi at SFF.net  Sat Oct 26 01:08:46 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:08:46 -0000
Subject: ~*~ Richard Harris Actor Who Plays Dumbledore In Harry Potter Movies Died
In-Reply-To: <001d01c27c8a$e9383060$ae04a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apcpuu+r714@eGroups.com>

--- Amanda Geist wrote:
> Some lurker with no sense of occasion, punctuation, or spelling 
> posted to every list he knew of:
>>   The replacement for the Richard Harris actor for
>> Dumbledore... has been chosen...

I believe the lurk-person is referring to the gentleman who doubled 
for Richard Harris during CoS when Harris was feeling poorly.

But as you said -- 'no sense of occasion'. >:|

(And way too elaborate a sig)

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From corgi at SFF.net  Sat Oct 26 01:20:31 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:20:31 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <apcpj7+gtq7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apcqkv+hqpt@eGroups.com>

--- Parker wrote:
> Does *anyone* besides me remember him in "A Man Called
> Horse", "This Sporting Life", or any of the other (good) films he
> was in (I'd just as soon forget "Camelot")?  
> <snip>
> Parker, feeling old

<patpatpat>  Don't feel old.  I remember 'Man Called Horse', but I've 
never actually got around to seeing the whole of it.  I don't know if 
I've ever had a 'favourite' Harris film -- I just liked the concept 
of Harris in general.

We've pretty much only got O'Toole left, don't we.

<sigh>

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From bethz1 at rcn.com  Sat Oct 26 02:42:58 2002
From: bethz1 at rcn.com (Ms. Found in a Bottle)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:42:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Re: kids'  TV appearances..On E!
References: <3DB8EF82.9007.A7D8A2@localhost>
Message-ID: <009501c27c99$651969c0$6501a8c0@BethsComp>

Yes, that's the entire E! News Live showing for CoS.  My sister taped it for
me this morning when it re-aired, so I just watched it about an hour ago.
I'm sorry, but Daniel is just too darn cute!  :-)

Beth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Pressnell" <manda at qx.net

> For those who missed (or are about to miss, I'm watching the first
rebroadcast now) this
> appearance, the clip is on the E! website:
>
> http://www.eonline.com/Multimedia/index.html?fdmulti2
>
> Manda
> watching EW on tape, waiting for the E! clip, and typing this, all at the
same time :p






From pennylin at swbell.net  Sat Oct 26 02:55:47 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:55:47 -0500
Subject: ADMIN: Group Rules and some Guidelines (discussions of physical
 maturity of actors/actresses to be taken offlist)
Message-ID: <017201c27c9b$2fa6a260$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi all --

As the movie release date approaches, I realize we are all getting very
excited!  I know I'm excitedly planning my "Harry Potter Day"!  We also
expect an influx of new members and certainly increased traffic on this
list.  So, a few reminders about our group rules ..... and a note about the
current conversation threads on the "maturity" of the young
actors/actresses.

You are all expected to follow the rules of HPforGrownups -- all contained
in this nifty document: the Humungous BigFile:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/hbfile.html

Here are some of the *highlights* though:

1.  SUBJECT HEADING -- be sure your subject heading is accurate.  If you're
going to talk about fantasy casting or just casting in general, it's a good
idea to include that in your subject line.  Be sure to *change* the subject
line if you are replying and the topic is changing.  Keep it current.  Avoid
having "Re: Digest No. 3521" and the like as your subject heading.

2.  SNIPPING & ATTRIBUTING -- Be sure to snip off unnecessary quoted
material when replying to someone.  Be sure to properly attribute quotes to
the correct person.

3.  No one-liner posts!

4.  If something is becoming a private conversation, please steer it
offlist.

5.  Offers to videotape, loan videos, etc. -- the person making the offer
can state this once and give their offlist email address.  *ALL* subsequent
discussions (i.e. "add me to the mailing list") should be sent *offlist* to
the person who offered.

6.  Keep in mind that this is a list for adults.

With respect to #6, I feel compelled to comment on the topic earlier today
regarding the physical maturity of the actors/actresses playing the Trio and
other young Hogwarts students.  We don't believe this topic is currently
very appropriate for this forum and would ask that further discussions on
this general thread be taken offlist.

Due to the expected increase in volume and membership on this list, please
be warned that we will start sending offlist howlers to people who violate
the group rules.  After 3 howlers, you will be placed on moderated status
(which means that your messages to this group must be approved by one of the
group moderators or List Elves before they are posted).

If you have any questions about the group rules or policies (or whether a
particular message or topic is appropriate), please don't hesitate to
contact the moderators off-list at mods at hpfgu.org.uk.

Thanks,

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From boggles at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 26 04:09:26 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:09:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's
 eyes
In-Reply-To: <20021023200113.86958.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021023200113.86958.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p05010403b9dfc35127d4@[66.167.189.193]>

At 1:01 PM -0700 10/23/02, Lilac wrote:
>
>So it was a time issue.  I always thought that the "no money" 
>argument didn't hold because of the gobs of money the movie made, 
>and they could have gambled on the future success of the film.  But 
>no time, I can understand that.

And the explanation about his eye shade changing depending on the 
lighting of the scene makes sense too.  Yay!

>~Lilac, who is leaning towards the belief that it's not the eye 
>color so much as the eye "type" (shape?) that is like Lily's eyes, 
>thanks to the discussions on this list.

Okay, I was sick in bed (strep and bronchitis at the same time, no 
fun) all this week, so I missed the lion's share of the infamous eye 
discussion.  Herewith, for what it's worth, is my two cents:

There are a number of magical abilities in the Potterverse.  Some of 
them - the Animagus transformation, for instance - are learnable. 
Others - Parseltongue is the one we've heard the most of, but perhaps 
the Seer's gift is another (a lot of Trelawney's dialogue tends to 
point this way, whether she intends it to or not) - appear to be 
inborn, or if they are gained after birth, they are gained by magical 
trauma or accident, not deliberately.

A number of the magical beasts in the Potterverse have magical 
abilities having to do with their eyes.  The Basilisk is the obvious 
example; the phoenix's tears would be another.

It does not seem unreasonable for there to be a magical ability, 
either learned or inborn, that would allow a witch or wizard to cast 
a spell (I imagine it would be a single spell, not any spell at all; 
else such a wizard would not need a wand) using only their gaze. 
*If* this is the case, and *if* Lily could do this, the green-ness of 
her and Harry's eyes would only be a signal that he had inherited her 
eyes, and thus the gift or the potential for it; the color is not in 
and of itself important.  Thus, I agree with those who claim that if 
the film Harry's eyes are blue, he can still have whatever the power 
of Lily's eyes are, provided that in the film continuity Lily's eyes 
are blue as well.

It does mess up the complex red-vs.-green, silver-vs.-gold color 
imagery from the books, but that's been muddied by the movie scarves 
anyway, so presumably that was a deliberate sacrifice in the 
translation to the screen.

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From itzregina at hanson.net  Sat Oct 26 04:38:59 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:38:59 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris quotes  :-)
Message-ID: <apd693+mhpq@eGroups.com>

I found these and I just had to share. Got to love him:

Personal quotes

"There are too many prima donnas in this business and not enough 
action." 

"I'm not interested in reputation or immortality or things like 
that...I don't care what I'm remembered for. I don't care if I'm 
remembered. I don't care if I'm not remembered. I don't care why I'm 
remembered. I genuinely don't care."   :-)

Gina







From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 26 05:40:03 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:40:03 -0000
Subject: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
In-Reply-To: <p05010403b9dfc35127d4@[66.167.189.193]>
Message-ID: <apd9rj+2mko@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jennifer Boggess Ramon <boggles at e...> wrote:
> At 1:01 PM -0700 10/23/02, Lilac wrote:
> Boggles said:
... big snip....
> It does not seem unreasonable for there to be a magical ability, 
> either learned or inborn, that would allow a witch or wizard to cast 
> a spell ...snip... using only their gaze. 
> ... big snip....
> -- 
>   - Boggles

You've never heard of 'the evil eye'? It's a fairly common way in even
modern mythology of magic for some one to curse some one else. To
curse them with a look. This is usually associated with Euopean witches.

So, my point is that there is some common precident for 'eye magic' or
at least 'cursed by a gaze'. 

just thought I'd throw that in.

bboy_mn





From manda at qx.net  Sat Oct 26 15:51:58 2002
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:51:58 -0700
Subject: Architechtural Digest COS Article
In-Reply-To: <1035525927.1136.12168.m11@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBA57AE.1235.11F09EA@localhost>

>    From: "lmpeterson3" <LynnP333 at aol.com>
> Subject: Architechtural Digest COS Article
> 
> FYI Everyone...
> Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but..
> Check out the new Architechtural Digest-Nov. 2002 for a nice 
> multipage article on the sets of 'Chamber of Secrets'.  Some nice
> picts too.

I took a look at it yesterday at the library (as someone else mentioned, it's a hefty volume and 
probably costs a pretty penny). I thought the article was rather boring but there are *lots* of 
pictures. They're kind of small but they are wide shots so you can see more of the rooms. As 
far as I can remember, the photographed sets include:

Dumbledore's office
Snape's office (which is interesting because it looks like there is a trompe l'oeil painting of 
arches on the wall)
Lockhart's classroom
Hagrid's hut
The Burrow living room
Gryffindor common room
Hogwarts library
Flourish & Blotts (obviously they have a varied selection of books on dragons)

Plus a few pictures of the cast, stuff we've already seen. The article mentioned the Slytherin 
common room (being under a lake - which I don't remember from the books) but I don't _think_ 
there was a picture. The article also mentioned that the tables (and the benches I assume) in 
the great hall are made of cement, not wood. Yikes, I feel sorry for the cast and extras!

Manda
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From chiflipgrl at aol.com  Sat Oct 26 13:26:11 2002
From: chiflipgrl at aol.com (chiflipgrl at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:26:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ~*~ Richard Harris Actor Who Plays Dumbledore In Harry Pott...
Message-ID: <10.2760215c.2aebf1f3@aol.com>

Guys... Harry Robinson died in 1946. Where did this info come from?

-Janice


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From myrrhmyrrh at netzero.net  Sat Oct 26 14:35:45 2002
From: myrrhmyrrh at netzero.net (myrrh321)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:35:45 -0000
Subject: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
In-Reply-To: <p05010403b9dfc35127d4@[66.167.189.193]>
Message-ID: <ape981+61ng@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jennifer Boggess Ramon <boggles at e...> wrote:
> At 1:01 PM -0700 10/23/02, Lilac wrote:
> >
> >So it was a time issue.  I always thought that the "no money" 
> >argument didn't hold because of the gobs of money the movie made, 
> >and they could have gambled on the future success of the film.  
But 
> >no time, I can understand that.
> 
> And the explanation about his eye shade changing depending on the 
> lighting of the scene makes sense too.  Yay!
> 
> Hi! New here and finally learned how to post!(I usually just lurk 
the digest) I've been reading these posts aka Harry's eyes and it 
seems to me that it isn't being taken into account that even 
televisions will give you different shadings of a colour depending on 
the set.  When I first saw PS/SS in the movies Harry's eyes were 
green in closeups, or when you could clearly see his eyes. Yet when I 
saw it other times in different theaters, they appeared blue.  
*I know this is subject has been done to death, but it seems to me 
that some who are talking about the eye colour haven't taken into 
account that all the thousands and millions of screens and 
televisions etc simply aren't calibrated exactly the same.Alas, 
technology is not that grand or smart-yet;-). And as for the posters, 
lord knows printers often make mistakes, the CoS poster at my local 
busstop has blue eyes with a distinct green ring around the pupil--go 
figure! *

It also seems to me that Chris Columbus's comment that they didn't 
change the eye colour green *in every shot*, went over the heads of 
some repliers and is being interpeted as meaning Daniel's blue eyes 
were not changed at all.  I took his comment to mean that Harry's 
eyes are meant to appear green when they would be noticed (or when it 
was important to know they are green) and they let the natural colour 
fluctuations of the surroundings and lighting take care of the rest.

Anyway--Enough of that from me!!!  

My name is DeNece and I have taken 
November 15 off from work just to make it a Harry Potter day-I get so 
excited thinking about it I can barely breath!!!:-0  If anyone else 
on the list is from Philadelphia PA in the USA?-email me! 






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 27 01:06:52 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:06:52 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
References: <ape981+61ng@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006601c27d55$25101ba0$2ba2cdd1@istu757>

DeNece writes:

> It also seems to me that Chris Columbus's comment that they didn't
> change the eye colour green *in every shot*, went over the heads of
> some repliers and is being interpeted as meaning Daniel's blue eyes
> were not changed at all.  I took his comment to mean that Harry's
> eyes are meant to appear green when they would be noticed (or when it
> was important to know they are green) and they let the natural colour
> fluctuations of the surroundings and lighting take care of the rest.

Here is the exact quote from Chris Columbus on the eyes:

"We never changed it.  It's only lighting.  What happens in the first movie
is we talked about digitally changing every shot to green.  But if you look
at a human being, I mean, nobody really studies it until you make a film,
you can't, people with blue eyes, particularly, in a room like this they'll
go dark and almost look brown.  If you take them outside they're bright
blue.  Put them on a set like Chamber of Secrets, they'll go greener,
because the sequence itself is green.  So we didn't touch it, I swear to
you.  There's nothing that's been altered.  The first movie, our effects
people said, we barely have time to finish the movie, turning his eyes green
in every shot is not going to work."

So twice in that quote he emphasizes that they never changed Daniel's eyes.
Once with "We never changed it."  The second time with "So we didn't touch
it, I swear to you.  There's nothing that's been altered."  What he said
about "turning his eyes green in every shot is not going to work" was
talking about the first movie, when they ran out of time.

Although what on earth CC was talking about by saying they'd look green on a
set like the chamber due to the sequence being green I don't know.  I mean,
I know what he meant, but in the pictures from that scene Daniel's eyes are
standing out vividly blue.  Not green.  In fact, I can't ever remember a
picture (except the international trailer, of course) when they weren't
blue.  His eyes are so vividly blue they don't change as much as normal blue
eyes do.  Like Rupert's.  His sometimes look blue, sometimes grey, sometimes
brown.

Okay, yes, I know, I promised not to talk about eyes any more.  Sorry!

Richelle


****************************************************************************
****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
---- Lady Galadriel, The Fellowship of the Ring
****************************************************************************
****




From shelia at netxs.net  Sun Oct 27 01:37:29 2002
From: shelia at netxs.net (shelia081758)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:37:29 -0000
Subject: Fireplace Magic
Message-ID: <apfg0p+5btp@eGroups.com>

Maybe when you throw in the floo powder the fireplace changes 
according to the height of the person standing in front of it.  

Just an idea I thought I would share.  

I'll go back to lurking now. :-) 




From boggles at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 27 02:13:17 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:13:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's
 eyes
In-Reply-To: <apd9rj+2mko@eGroups.com>
References: <apd9rj+2mko@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <p05010401b9e0fb39bfea@[66.167.189.251]>

At 5:40 AM +0000 10/26/02, Steve wrote:
>
>You've never heard of 'the evil eye'?

Well, of course I've heard of it, silly.  ;P  I was accused of having 
it more than once as a child.  However, our dear Harry already has an 
ability traditionally regarded as Evil, the Parseltongue.  Surely he 
doesn't need *another* one?  I'd hoped the eye-magic wouldn't be Yet 
Another Reason for the Respectable Wizards to look askance at Harry. 
Something, in other words, more like the phoenix tears than the 
basilisk's gaze.

Then again, that could be part of the hard look Harry's supposed to 
have to take at his parents - all those questions that he hasn't 
asked yet (but we sure have!).


-- 
  - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon			boggles at earthlink.net
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From boggles at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 27 02:33:34 2002
From: boggles at earthlink.net (Jennifer Boggess Ramon)
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:33:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion
In-Reply-To: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net>
References: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <p05010402b9e0fde15f95@[66.167.189.251]>

At 10:08 PM -0500 10/24/02, Amanda Geist wrote:
>Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: Bill
>Nighy.
>
>This picture is from a movie I haven't seen, but he was in Blow Dry playing
>a contemporary of Alan Rickman, most convincingly, and he has the right
>young/old face and a great range. Comments?

The only thing I've seen him in is _Still Crazy_, in which he plays 
an aging David-Bowie-type rock star.  He was *great* in that, but I 
didn't get enough of his range to convince me he'd be able to portray 
Lupin's edginess.  I also don't know if makeup could make him look 
young enough to be the Lupin we see on the train, although dying his 
hair light brown might go a bit towards making me believe it.

(Hmm . . . the Still Crazy connection reminds me that the Spouse 
thinks Billy Connolly should play Mad-Eye Moody, an idea I'm slowly 
warming to, I think.  However, Connolly and Coltrane in the same 
movie might warp the fabric of space and time.)

I'm still plumping for Gary Oldman/Tim Roth as Sirius/Remus, myself, 
although I suspect there's little enough chance of it.

-- 
  - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon			boggles at earthlink.net
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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 07:14:47 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:14:47 -0000
Subject: Chris Columbus on -- <gasp>Oh, No! -- Harry's eyes
In-Reply-To: <p05010401b9e0fb39bfea@[66.167.189.251]>
Message-ID: <apg3p7+hjuu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jennifer Boggess Ramon <boggles at e...> wrote:
> At 5:40 AM +0000 10/26/02, Steve wrote:
> >bboy_mn:
> >You've never heard of 'the evil eye'?
> 
Boggles replied:
> Well, of course I've heard of it, silly.  ;P  I was accused of having 
> it more than once as a child.  However, our dear Harry already has an 
> ability traditionally regarded as Evil, the Parseltongue.  Surely he 
> doesn't need *another* one?  I'd hoped the eye-magic wouldn't be Yet 
> Another Reason for the Respectable Wizards to look askance at Harry. 
> Something, in other words, more like the phoenix tears than the 
> basilisk's gaze.
> 
> Then again, that could be part of the hard look Harry's supposed to 
> have to take at his parents - all those questions that he hasn't 
> asked yet (but we sure have!).
> 
>   - Boggles, aka J. C. B. Ramon	

bboy_mn responds:

Your point is well made and well taken. True, Harry doesn't need one
more 'evil thing' filling his life with angst.

However, I think you missed my point. The key word to my point isn't
'evil'. While it is refered to as the 'evil eye', what it is really
about is the ability to cast a curse (or charm or spell) with a look;
to perform magic with your eyes being the focusing device as opposed
to a wand.

Actually, maybe you did get that point. Either way, I still agree that
last thing Harry needs is one more source of suspicion that has the
potential to lead him to more misery.

Sadly, I see a lot of misery ahead for him. I swear when him and Ron
were mad at each other in GoF, it nearly broke my heart. Now, on top
of  Draco, Voldemort, and Snape, he has *girls* to worry about. Poor kid.

Anyway, with regard to eye color and the movie, I think it's something
they can blow off until it becomes critical to the story line. 

bboy_mn





From flyeagle at the-i.net  Sun Oct 27 16:53:19 2002
From: flyeagle at the-i.net (Virginia F Garza)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:53:19 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion
References: <001c01c27bd3$d07a7f40$ca05a6d8@texas.net> <p05010402b9e0fde15f95@[66.167.189.251]>
Message-ID: <005e01c27dd9$5bcc8320$4a1956d8@default>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jennifer Boggess Ramon 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin suggestion


  At 10:08 PM -0500 10/24/02, Amanda Geist wrote:
  >Okay, I finally found a picture. Here's my choice for Remus Lupin: Bill
  >Nighy.
  >
  >This picture is from a movie I haven't seen, but he was in Blow Dry playing
  >a contemporary of Alan Rickman, most convincingly, and he has the right
  >young/old face and a great range. Comments?

  Now me:
  I've seen Blow Dry and I absolutely love that movie.  I think Bill does a good job in the movie, but I really don't know if he would make a good Lupin.  Someone(one some list I am on) suggested (a while back) that Julian Sands would be a good Lupin, and I happen to believe that.  He's got the look, in my opinion, to pull off a wonderful Lupin.  Just my thoughts
  -Flyeagle~Faye

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From fionap19 at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Oct 27 16:59:21 2002
From: fionap19 at yahoo.co.uk (fionap19)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:59:21 -0000
Subject: Who's for Moody
In-Reply-To: <p05010402b9e0fde15f95@[66.167.189.251]>
Message-ID: <aph619+ebuq@eGroups.com>


> (Hmm . . . the Still Crazy connection reminds me that the Spouse 
> thinks Billy Connolly should play Mad-Eye Moody, an idea I'm slowly 
> warming to, I think.  However, Connolly and Coltrane in the same 
> movie might warp the fabric of space and time.)
> 

Have been a lurker for ages........thought it about time I posted 
something.  Glad somebody else came up with the idea of Billy 
Connolly playing Moody 'cos I think he would be superb.    My twelve-
year old Potter look alike reckons Christopher Lloyd but he's far too 
american for my liking.  Any other votes for Connolly?

Fiona Potter (sorry its my real surname)





From myrrhmyrrh at netzero.net  Sun Oct 27 19:39:56 2002
From: myrrhmyrrh at netzero.net (myrrh321)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:39:56 -0000
Subject: Harry's Diagon Alley mishap(?)
Message-ID: <aphfec+bi4n@eGroups.com>

Hi all!

I was watching an extended scene of the floo powder/fireplace scene. 
(I believe it was from Extratv) In this one they showed Ron going 
through first and he says "Diagon Alley" Then Harry goes through and 
says "Diagonalley".  This cleared up to me how they could make Harry 
end up elsewhere. In the trailer I've seen it only shows Harry saying 
Diagon Alley and he sounds clear, so what's the problem,right? Seeing 
how Ron says it slightly different, makes sense...to me anyway...

DeNece---Who obviously has waaay to much time on her hands today




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 27 20:13:41 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:41 -0000
Subject: Moody and Moony
In-Reply-To: <aph619+ebuq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aphhdl+o46c@eGroups.com>

Fiona wrote:
>>>>Glad somebody else came up with the idea of Billy Connolly 
playing Moody 'cos I think he would be superb.    My twelve-year old 
Potter look alike reckons Christopher Lloyd but he's far too american 
for my liking.  Any other votes for Connolly?>>>>

I've always thought Willem Defoe would be a great Moody. He's a 
supurb actor and definitely on the creepy side. Did anyone see him 
in "Shadow of the Vampire"? He was amazing, even through layers and 
layers of makeup (*side note* "Shadow" also features Lupin candidate 
Ronan Vibert, who is so insanely *not* Lupinesque I *will* boycott 
PoA if he gets cast as Remus). And I'd dare say Moody's a bit richer 
character than the Green Lantern. But, again, Defoe is American, so 
that probably won't happen.

Faye wrote:
>>>>Someone(one some list I am on) suggested (a while back) that 
Julian Sands would be a good Lupin, and I happen to believe that. 
He's got the look, in my opinion, to pull off a wonderful Lupin. Just 
my thoughts>>>>

Julian Sands *would* make a good Lupin. I was watching the movie 
Impromptu (Terrific movie about the love affair between George Sand 
and Frederic Chopin -- highly recomended!!!!) the other morning -- 
Sands plays Franz Liszt -- and ruminating about what a terrific 
Lucius Malfoy he'd have been. I'd only ever seen him in harsh, mean-
type roles before, but he's softer and quite sympathetic in Impromptu 
and I was surprised to find him very likeable. Still, his features 
are rather sharp and I always pictured Lupin having softer, more 
boyish features. 

It *really* is too bad they just don't hand the casting over to the 
fans and make life easier for themselves ;-)~

BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco 
whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your 
blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.

-Jess






From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 27 20:43:13 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:43:13 -0000
Subject: Draco Eminem
In-Reply-To: <aphhdl+o46c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aphj51+913f@eGroups.com>

Jess noticed:

> BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco
> whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your
> blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.


Hehe, that is so true.  I never noticed it before.  Probably works so
well because Eminem and Felton use the same hair dye, but the anger
and hatred is quite on par.  Just replace Eminem's gay/woman bashing
with mudblood bashing and you have Draco.

Hey, maybe Draco will have a cousin in the future books (and thus
movies) and the part will open up.  Heaven forbid we have him adding
to the flames of controversy though.

Melody




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Oct 27 20:48:56 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:48:56 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moody and Moony
References: <aphhdl+o46c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002401c27dfa$4a8f5a80$4b9fcdd1@istu757>

Jess writes:

> I've always thought Willem Defoe would be a great Moody. He's a
> supurb actor and definitely on the creepy side. Did anyone see him
> in "Shadow of the Vampire"? He was amazing, even through layers and

Hmm, I've never seen him.  Christopher Lloyd would make a great Lupin, but
as already mentioned, he's far too American.  Somebody with that certain
feel of insanity, though.

As for Dumbledore, the previously mentioned Ian McKellen would be great.  At
first I thought no, but then I pictured that scene in Goblet of Fire where
Harry sees Dumbledore with the intense look of hatred, no twinkle in the
eye, etc.  Ian McKellen could definitely do that well!  He can snap back and
forth between gentle and ferocious quite nicely.

> BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco
> whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your
> blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.

So *that's* who Eminem reminds me of!  I knew it was someone.  On another
note, my mother is insisting that Daniel Radcliffe looks exactly like
someone she knows, and can't place who.  Which is really driving me nuts.
I'm inspecting all the thirteen year olds at church to see if I can figure
it out. Things like that bother me, you know!

Richelle







From kokobreen at juno.com  Sun Oct 27 21:04:11 2002
From: kokobreen at juno.com (kokobreen at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:04:11 GMT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Draco Eminem
Message-ID: <20021027.160509.7783.513409@webmail6.nyc.untd.com>

I think Draco listening to Eminem should be added to some fanfics!!

Christine


Jess noticed:

> BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco
> whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your
> blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.


Hehe, that is so true.  I never noticed it before.  Probably works so
well because Eminem and Felton use the same hair dye, but the anger
and hatred is quite on par.  Just replace Eminem's gay/woman bashing
with mudblood bashing and you have Draco.

Hey, maybe Draco will have a cousin in the future books (and thus
movies) and the part will open up.  Heaven forbid we have him adding
to the flames of controversy though.

Melody



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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 00:48:55 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:48:55 -0000
Subject: Harry is Dull
Message-ID: <api1hn+cji6@eGroups.com>

This thread started on the OT list, then moved to the main list when 
canon started getting quoted, but now I want to bring up something 
which completes the triad and makes *this* list the most relevant. :-)

Pip mentioned that the main reason why Harry might be seen as "dull" 
is perhaps that he sees himself that way. I'd like to draw a parallel 
with the movie series, and in particular with young Master Radcliffe, 
recently the subject of much adulation and admiration from people 
here, some of whom are closer to, or (like me) entirely of, his 
parents' generation rather than his. :-)

Just like Harry's position in the wizarding world in which Harry 
refuses to see himself as something special and gets embarassed when 
people make a fuss, Dan seems oblivious to the clamour around him. 
He's clearly intelligent and surely it hasn't escaped his attention 
that he's the most famous teeenager in Britain, if not on the planet. 

Yet when asked about being famous, his only comment is that he enjoys 
being stopped in the street because people are enthusiatic about the 
film. Quite simply, I refuse to believe that that's the case, that 
girls (in particular) don't fawn over him. He's said that his 
schoolmates in his new school don't give him any special treatment 
(though with all the media coverage all last week, he's surely going 
to be the centre of attraction tomorrow!). :-) 

All in all, he insists in every interview that he is, for want of a 
better word, "dull": a normal kid with normal interests leading a 
normal life. He's clearly aware that this "normality" comes thanks to 
the efforts of lots of people, not least his parents, but he appears 
to do nothing to dispel it. He has internet access at home, yet 
appears not to have any interest in what people are saying about him. 
Heck, he doesn't even need internet access - every single British 
mass-market newspaper carried a full-page article yesterday about 
Friday's press conference, most of them concentrating on how much 
he's grown. 

Like Harry, whether or not his celebrity is justified, whether he's 
famous thanks to his parents or just "pure dumb luck" (to quote 
McGonagall), he is very special if only because he doesn't see 
himself as such and insists that people not give him special 
treatment. Like Harry, he is simply too well grounded and too, well, 
*nice* to be "normal". And that's what makes both the actor and the 
character he plays very, very special indeed...






From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 02:44:13 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (myphilosophy2001)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 02:44:13 -0000
Subject: Video Time
Message-ID: <api89t+dth0@eGroups.com>

Hi Everybody!

I have *finally* finished all of the TRL+ copies. Sorry it took so 
long. My VCR kept acting up on me when I thought it was recording 
properly. Madness! Anyway, the copies aren't *super* crisp. The color 
is a bit runny (though that may just be my TV) and my counter 
occassionally pops up for a few seconds. Everything I listed on my 
message Friday is there, plus Richard Harris segments from both E! 
News Live and Entertainment Tonight (that one's really just a little 
blurb -- apparently neither Richard Harris nor Dumbledore is hip 
enought to warrant further attention).

I have made copies for:
*Kelly Broughton
*Barbara Sheridan
*Darlene ("darlenebuell")
*Lilac
*Nia
*Jo Serenadust
*Josh Yochem
*Heidi (heidi at blaydz.com)
*Jilly Harris
*Cheryl ("chingram6")
*Faye ("flyeagle")
*Jessica Rickards
*Katey (SuGaRkAdI at aol.com)
*Jennifer Prescott    *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS
*Lila Phillips     *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS
*-Joy-  *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS


If I've left anybody out or anybody else wants a copy, please contact 
me within the next 24 hours. For those of you waiting for the HBO 
special, I'll be recording Oprah as well and will add that to the 
copy. 

I'll take well-concealled cash, Money Order/Cashier's Check, and -- 
if no other option is available -- personal checks. You can also go 
through PayPal. My registered address is Jdagg31165 at hotmail.com.
I just need everyone on the list to email me their payment method and 
address. For those of you mailing your payment, I'll you email back 
my mailing address.

Thanks!

-Jessica :-D




From flyeagle at the-i.net  Mon Oct 28 02:56:21 2002
From: flyeagle at the-i.net (Virginia F Garza)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:56:21 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Video Time
References: <api89t+dth0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006001c27e2d$9a05e1a0$5c1956d8@default>

Jessica
I would also like to wait for the HBO first look on COS thanks.    If that is not too much trouble that is.  Thanks.  Faye (flyeagle)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: myphilosophy2001 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:44 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Video Time


  Hi Everybody!

  I have *finally* finished all of the TRL+ copies. Sorry it took so 
  long. My VCR kept acting up on me when I thought it was recording 
  properly. Madness! Anyway, the copies aren't *super* crisp. The color 
  is a bit runny (though that may just be my TV) and my counter 
  occassionally pops up for a few seconds. Everything I listed on my 
  message Friday is there, plus Richard Harris segments from both E! 
  News Live and Entertainment Tonight (that one's really just a little 
  blurb -- apparently neither Richard Harris nor Dumbledore is hip 
  enought to warrant further attention).

  I have made copies for:
  *Kelly Broughton
  *Barbara Sheridan
  *Darlene ("darlenebuell")
  *Lilac
  *Nia
  *Jo Serenadust
  *Josh Yochem
  *Heidi (heidi at blaydz.com)
  *Jilly Harris
  *Cheryl ("chingram6")
  *Faye ("flyeagle")
  *Jessica Rickards
  *Katey (SuGaRkAdI at aol.com)
  *Jennifer Prescott    *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS
  *Lila Phillips     *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS
  *-Joy-  *Waiting for HBO First Look on CoS


  If I've left anybody out or anybody else wants a copy, please contact 
  me within the next 24 hours. For those of you waiting for the HBO 
  special, I'll be recording Oprah as well and will add that to the 
  copy. 

  I'll take well-concealled cash, Money Order/Cashier's Check, and -- 
  if no other option is available -- personal checks. You can also go 
  through PayPal. My registered address is Jdagg31165 at hotmail.com.
  I just need everyone on the list to email me their payment method and 
  address. For those of you mailing your payment, I'll you email back 
  my mailing address.

  Thanks!

  -Jessica :-D


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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 03:01:59 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (Moonstruck)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:01:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Video Time
In-Reply-To: <006001c27e2d$9a05e1a0$5c1956d8@default>
Message-ID: <20021028030159.10086.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Faye!

Not a problem! I'll put your tape aside with the other
HBO-ers.

Take Care!
-Jessica :-)



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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 03:04:38 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (Moonstruck)
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:04:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Whoops!
In-Reply-To: <20021028030159.10086.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021028030439.10548.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry about that! Forgot to change the address!

-Jessica, who feels a bit silly 




--- Moonstruck <myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Faye!
> 
> Not a problem! I'll put your tape aside with the
> other
> HBO-ers.
> 
> Take Care!
> -Jessica :-)
> 
> 
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From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 07:18:36 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:18:36 -0000
Subject: Additions and Deletions from Book to Movie
Message-ID: <apiocc+utsg@eGroups.com>

In watching the preview for the newest HP movie, I saw a scene where 
Harry was falling out of the flying car over the Hogwarts train.  I 
re-read the book and that wasn't in it.  What other things were added 
to the previous movie that were not in the book?  Did you agree with 
them or not in adding these things?  And the same question goes for 
what was deleted from the book. 




From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 07:22:58 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:22:58 -0000
Subject: Draco Eminem
In-Reply-To: <aphj51+913f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apioki+4ur7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> Jess noticed:
> 
> > BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco
> > whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your
> > blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.
> 
> 
> Hehe, that is so true.  I never noticed it before.  Probably works 
so
> well because Eminem and Felton use the same hair dye, but the anger
> and hatred is quite on par.  Just replace Eminem's gay/woman bashing
> with mudblood bashing and you have Draco.
> 
> Hey, maybe Draco will have a cousin in the future books (and thus
> movies) and the part will open up.  Heaven forbid we have him adding
> to the flames of controversy though.
> 
> Melody

Hmm... I always thought both were natural blondes.  Maybe Eminem 
could smarten up a bit and play Lucius Malfoy?  :)




From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 28 07:25:16 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:25:16 -0000
Subject: Harry is Dull
In-Reply-To: <api1hn+cji6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apioos+o3lp@eGroups.com>

I had a moment to speak once to a boy who attended prep school with 
Dan Radcliffe in London, after the first HP film came out, and he 
said he was a "normal, funny, bloke".  It remains to be see whether 
or not any acting talent he may, or may not have, will take him to 
any roles after HP. 

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> This thread started on the OT list, then moved to the main list 
when 
> canon started getting quoted, but now I want to bring up something 
> which completes the triad and makes *this* list the most 
relevant. :-)
> 
> Pip mentioned that the main reason why Harry might be seen 
as "dull" 
> is perhaps that he sees himself that way. I'd like to draw a 
parallel 
> with the movie series, and in particular with young Master 
Radcliffe, 
> recently the subject of much adulation and admiration from people 
> here, some of whom are closer to, or (like me) entirely of, his 
> parents' generation rather than his. :-)
> 
> Just like Harry's position in the wizarding world in which Harry 
> refuses to see himself as something special and gets embarassed 
when 
> people make a fuss, Dan seems oblivious to the clamour around him. 
> He's clearly intelligent and surely it hasn't escaped his attention 
> that he's the most famous teeenager in Britain, if not on the 
planet. 
> 
> Yet when asked about being famous, his only comment is that he 
enjoys 
> being stopped in the street because people are enthusiatic about 
the 
> film. Quite simply, I refuse to believe that that's the case, that 
> girls (in particular) don't fawn over him. He's said that his 
> schoolmates in his new school don't give him any special treatment 
> (though with all the media coverage all last week, he's surely 
going 
> to be the centre of attraction tomorrow!). :-) 
> 
> All in all, he insists in every interview that he is, for want of a 
> better word, "dull": a normal kid with normal interests leading a 
> normal life. He's clearly aware that this "normality" comes thanks 
to 
> the efforts of lots of people, not least his parents, but he 
appears 
> to do nothing to dispel it. He has internet access at home, yet 
> appears not to have any interest in what people are saying about 
him. 
> Heck, he doesn't even need internet access - every single British 
> mass-market newspaper carried a full-page article yesterday about 
> Friday's press conference, most of them concentrating on how much 
> he's grown. 
> 
> Like Harry, whether or not his celebrity is justified, whether he's 
> famous thanks to his parents or just "pure dumb luck" (to quote 
> McGonagall), he is very special if only because he doesn't see 
> himself as such and insists that people not give him special 
> treatment. Like Harry, he is simply too well grounded and too, 
well, 
> *nice* to be "normal". And that's what makes both the actor and the 
> character he plays very, very special indeed...




From fezzik73 at yahoo.ca  Mon Oct 28 12:31:14 2002
From: fezzik73 at yahoo.ca (J L)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:31:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Additions and Deletions from Book to Movie
In-Reply-To: <apiocc+utsg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021028123114.34678.qmail@web9402.mail.yahoo.com>


I saw the same trailer. And personally I don't mind that kind of thing. As long as they stay true to the spirit of the novel I'm okay with a little change as long as they don't touch major plot or character points. Obviously if they had Ron dye his hair blonde or they changed the way Dobby first appears to Harry I wouldn't like very much. 
fezzik (who's new to the HPFGU lists and this is my first post)
 Tamara <buffyeton at yahoo.com> wrote:In watching the preview for the newest HP movie, I saw a scene where 
Harry was falling out of the flying car over the Hogwarts train.  I 
re-read the book and that wasn't in it.  What other things were added 
to the previous movie that were not in the book?  Did you agree with 
them or not in adding these things?  And the same question goes for 
what was deleted from the book. 


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From htfulcher at comcast.net  Mon Oct 28 12:51:13 2002
From: htfulcher at comcast.net (marephraim)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:51:13 -0000
Subject: Dumbledore suggestion
Message-ID: <apjbs1+c2ii@eGroups.com>

I've just read that Christopher Lee is being considered to replace 
the great Richard Harris. Good possible choice.

However, I'd like to put in an opinion for Peter O'Toole. Cut from 
the same jib as Harris, I believe he could do a quite credible job.




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Mon Oct 28 14:19:19 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:19 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Additions and Deletions from Book to Movie
Message-ID: <9514768.1035814759302.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>

Tamara writes:

> In watching the preview for the newest HP movie, I saw a scene where 
> Harry was falling out of the flying car over the Hogwarts train.  I 
> re-read the book and that wasn't in it.  What other things were added 
> to the previous movie that were not in the book?  Did you agree with 
> them or not in adding these things?  And the same question goes for 
> what was deleted from the book. 

Well, as long as JKR doesn't mind, I don't mind.  Generally speaking.  As far 
as Harry falling out of the car, it was a really cool scene!  And that way 
Daniel got to hang in the air 35 feet up, you know he loves the action scenes.  
I'm still curious as to how he gets back *in* the car, though!  

As for the last movie, the whole Norbert scene was changed.  Though it did flow 
a lot smoother than taking time to get the dragon up to the highest tower, 
etc.  Also the forbidden forest was changed to have Ron in the forest and not 
Neville.  But it all went together well enough.

As for the new movie, I know for certain the Deathday Party is out.  Which, I 
can see their point, it was a sidetrack, not completely essential to the story, 
would've been mostly special effects, and a bit confusing for younger viewers.  
I'm afraid the singing dwarf has been removed as well.  Though Harry must find 
some other way to spill ink on the diary, that was when he found out something 
was odd about it, the ink that spilled on it during that scene disappeared.  
Also it appears from the pictures in the daily calendar that McGonagall tells 
the tale of the Chamber of Secrets, not Binns.  Which makes sense as well, as 
far as the movie is concerned.  It prevents introducing a new character who 
doesn't play a big part in the plot, and it gives Maggie Smith more screen 
time.  Which is good.

Richelle

  ----------

In watching the preview for the newest HP movie, I saw a scene where 
Harry was falling out of the flying car over the Hogwarts train.  I 
re-read the book and that wasn't in it.  What other things were added 
to the previous movie that were not in the book?  Did you agree with 
them or not in adding these things?  And the same question goes for 
what was deleted from the book. 



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From strijkg at xs4all.nl  Mon Oct 28 15:53:37 2002
From: strijkg at xs4all.nl (Riet Strijker)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:37 +0100 (West-Europa (standaardtijd))
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dumbledore suggestion
References: <apjbs1+c2ii@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBD5D81.000001.77579@xbwesrtn>

What to think of Sir Derek Jacobi?
I would think he could make the blue eyes sparkle.
Riet
 
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Date: maandag 28 oktober 2002 13:51:23
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Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dumbledore suggestion
 
I've just read that Christopher Lee is being considered to replace 
the great Richard Harris. Good possible choice.

However, I'd like to put in an opinion for Peter O'Toole. Cut from 
the same jib as Harris, I believe he could do a quite credible job.


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From corgi at SFF.net  Mon Oct 28 16:44:57 2002
From: corgi at SFF.net (Corgi)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:44:57 -0000
Subject: Sirius Black 'sightings' & Re: Harry Robinson/lurker post
In-Reply-To: <10.2760215c.2aebf1f3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apjpi9+tbik@eGroups.com>

During the course of my 'Cast Jason Carter as Sirius Black' 
campaign, I've found that a LOT of people, especially on the Harry 
Potter side of fandom, aren't familiar with Jason's work, because 
they didn't watch 'Babylon 5' when he was on, during Seasons 3 + 4.

To remedy that, I must needs tell you that two of Jason's guest 
appearances will be rerunning in short order:

Diagnosis Murder, on PAX stations, =tonight= at 10PM

and

Charmed, on TNT, Wednesday Nov 13, at 5PM. (Good for considering 
Fugitive!Sirius -- he's playing a demon of rage)

Sure, it's a good actor doing what he can with incredibly shallow 
writing, but I'm sure you can sort the actor from the material. :) 
At least you can SEE who I'm talking about now! :D

and also...

--- Janice wrote:
> Guys... Harry Robinson died in 1946. Where did this info come from?

It's just a different Harry Robinson. :)  Not an uncommon name, 
after all. :)

Corgi
http://www.SFF.net/people/Corgi/JasonCarter/




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Mon Oct 28 16:49:08 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:49:08 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Draco Eminem
References: <apioki+4ur7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBD6A84.358B0AF3@ka.reg.uci.edu>


Hiya --
well, i happen to think that Eminem is quite talented (and mostly he says things to get people to react to him, but
anyway...)

Nah, if you see "8 Mile," the film with Eminem that comes out Nov. 9 or so, you'll see Eminem's natural hair color,
which is brown.

cheers,
Jenny

Tamara wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> > Jess noticed:
> >
> > > BTW, am I the only one who feels like she's watching rapping Draco
> > > whenever they see Eminem (if you don't know who he is, count your
> > > blessings)? He looks exactly like an older Tom Felton.
> >
> >
> > Hehe, that is so true.  I never noticed it before.  Probably works
> so
> > well because Eminem and Felton use the same hair dye, but the anger
> > and hatred is quite on par.  Just replace Eminem's gay/woman bashing
> > with mudblood bashing and you have Draco.
> >
> > Hey, maybe Draco will have a cousin in the future books (and thus
> > movies) and the part will open up.  Heaven forbid we have him adding
> > to the flames of controversy though.
> >
> > Melody
>
> Hmm... I always thought both were natural blondes.  Maybe Eminem
> could smarten up a bit and play Lucius Malfoy?  :)




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Mon Oct 28 20:57:28 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:57:28 -0600
Subject: confirmation fo SHIP - reality?
Message-ID: <3DBDA4B8.50205@kingwoodcable.com>

This kind of has to do the main list, but I'm weary of posting it over there 
because the information I found was in an article regarding the new movie.

I found this blurb amusing - regarding the actual Potter series SHIPS, and also 
the real life ships that appear to be happening on the set...

- In Chamber of Secrets, the romance between Hermione and Ron begins to blossom 
-- but just slightly. The set itself was more randy, and hormones sometimes raged 
among the large cast of pubescent actors and extras. Columbus says, "The problem 
I had in the Great Hall on one of the days was, a lot of notes were being passed 
back and forth -- he likes her, she likes him. Finally, I said, 'Guys, this is 
not a romance school.'" -

Here's the link to the interview (as found on TLC)
http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901021104-384764,00.html

Cute!
Katze





From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Mon Oct 28 21:35:58 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:58 -0000
Subject: Dumbledore suggestion
In-Reply-To: <3DBD5D81.000001.77579@xbwesrtn>
Message-ID: <apkaju+ja4u@eGroups.com>

I think Peter O'Toole would be ideal.  He has the slight weird-ness
that I think makes Dumbledore great.

He is tall, can act, is old (maybe that's a risk!) and could I believe
summon up the fearsome wrath that could strike fear into Voldemort

Felicia
hoping her computer is mended soon as she is tired of reading
everything *on site*




From crussell at arkansas.net  Mon Oct 28 21:54:41 2002
From: crussell at arkansas.net (bugaloo37)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:54:41 -0000
Subject: Dumbledore suggestion
In-Reply-To: <3DBD5D81.000001.77579@xbwesrtn>
Message-ID: <apkbn1+2p8o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Riet Strijker" <strijkg at x> wrote:
> What to think of Sir Derek Jacobi?
> I would think he could make the blue eyes sparkle.


This is my first post to HPFGU-Movies-so bear with me.  I think the 
idea of Sir Derek Jacobi is a good one.  He has a kindly face but 
certainly can carry off the idea of an angry Dumbledore as well.  
Another possibility has occurred to me: Patrick Stewart.  But 
perhaps, he comes off as a bit too stiff especially when it comes to 
children.

bugaloo37-who thinks Christopher Lee is a bit too sinister-looking to 
play Dumbledore




From kechelsen at aol.com  Mon Oct 28 22:20:16 2002
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:20:16 -0000
Subject: Richard Harris
In-Reply-To: <apihsc+r3fd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apkd70+mc9e@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "susanmcgee48176" <Schlobin1 at a...> wrote: 
I'm afraid that I think that the death of Harris means that 
Dumbledore will die before the series ends.....>>

Somehow I doubt that.  Dumbledore is central to helping Harry 
understand what his destiny is.  If the character does die, I suspect 
it would be toward the end of the final book, once Harry has 
completed his training as a wizard and learned the responsibilities 
of being a GOOD wizard.  

Just because Mr. Harris has passed on, doesn't mean the end of the 
character.  They have yet to film the next two books, and remember, 
Dumbledore plays important roles in both, especially Goblet of Fire.  
They're not going to make such a major change in the films just 
because the man who played him has died.  They'll simply recast the 
role -- a tough thing to do, I grant you.  But they have no choice.

I like the idea of either Peter O'Toole or Derek Jacobi playing 
Dumbledore, although I think Mr. O'Toole would be the better choice.

Kathy




From Malady579 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 28 23:27:32 2002
From: Malady579 at hotmail.com (Melody)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:32 -0000
Subject: Draco Eminem
In-Reply-To: <3DBD6A84.358B0AF3@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <apkh54+s4sj@eGroups.com>

Jennifer wrote:
 > Hiya --
> well, i happen to think that Eminem is quite talented (and mostly he
says things to get people to react to him, but anyway...)


Hi.  :)

I never said Eminem wasn't talented, in fact, I find him to be a
brilliant lyricist.  I may not agree with everything the man says, but
I will not deny he is talented.  That is why he should play a part of
the Malfoy family.  Seems he can act, as long as it is a character
like himself, and the Malfoy family is ready-made for him.

Tamara suggested Eminem for Lucius.  Granted Eminem is around 30, but
that seems a bit young for Lucius. I like the idea of Malfoy's older
cousin who Draco followed around like a shadow.

Melody






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct 29 00:52:43 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:52:43 -0600
Subject: Quotation question
Message-ID: <009101c27ee5$7e642ca0$209ccdd1@istu757>

Okay, first let me issue a disclaimer. :)  I'm not sure where to post this.  The question involves a quote that is on a movie poster.  But my question is where in the book is it, so you see my dilemma.  So, sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place.  I did put a lot of thought into it, though. :)  Okay, that aside, I just bought a new poster (found it at Wal-Mart, I was thrilled!) that has this quote on it "Something tells me we're going to regret this."  I know that's bound to be in CoS someplace, anybody know where and in what context?  It's driving me nuts!  The quotes on the posters usually do come from the books.  For example, my Scholastic poster has "When in doubt, go to the library."  Which is what Ron said about Hermione.  Of course, poor Ron is the only one left off the poster and he's the one who said it!  Well, that point aside, can someone point out this "regret" quote?

Thanks!
Richelle

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Oct 29 00:57:47 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:47 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Harry is Dull
References: <apioos+o3lp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <009801c27ee6$3356ce60$209ccdd1@istu757>

Tamara writes:


> I had a moment to speak once to a boy who attended prep school with
> Dan Radcliffe in London, after the first HP film came out, and he
> said he was a "normal, funny, bloke".  It remains to be see whether
> or not any acting talent he may, or may not have, will take him to
> any roles after HP.

Well, keep in mind he was already in a couple of movies before HP came out.
David Copperfield being the most prominent, and he did a terrific job of
that.  Cute little thing, he was.

Also, Daniel seems quite open about his future.  He most commonly says he'd
like to write or direct.  I see him doing the Ron Howard thing.  As he said,
he knows he can't do that at fourteen, so whether he acts for a while or
finds something else to do, I don't know.  But he definitely has the makings
of a future director.  Oh, and as for that Ron Howard thing, I said it
myself over a week ago.  Barely two days later, Chris Columbus said
basically the same thing!  Great minds, you know.

Richelle

P.S. Don't forget, Daniel, Emma, and Rupert are on Oprah tomorrow! (Tuesday)

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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 03:02:38 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:02:38 -0000
Subject: Quotation question
In-Reply-To: <009101c27ee5$7e642ca0$209ccdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apktoe+edl2@eGroups.com>

Richelle Votaw wrote:

<big snippo>

> "Something tells me we're going to regret this."  
> anybody know where and in what context?  

Thank you, Richelle, for causing me to break my resolve not to touch 
my CoS book until after I'd seen the movie. :-)

I've just read 90% of it, and haven't seen that quote anywhere. It 
looks like it's a line added into the movie, and whilst there are 
plenty of things the kids might regret doing, I'd be prepared to bet 
that it's connected to preparing or taking the Polyjuice Potion. 

Anyone else?




From editor at texas.net  Tue Oct 29 04:00:48 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:00:48 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dumbledore suggestion
References: <apjbs1+c2ii@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c27eff$c4f8dfc0$7004a6d8@texas.net>

Marephraim said:

> However, I'd like to put in an opinion for Peter O'Toole. Cut from
> the same jib as Harris, I believe he could do a quite credible job.

HAH! Welcome to the fold! Peter O'Toole was the only one of my original
"casting" (long before I knew there would be a movie) who was *not* cast
(I'd wanted Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman, and I got 'em!). I have always
thought Peter O'Toole's brilliant blue eyes, gift for whimsy, and ability to
suddenly sharply focus would render a superb Dumbledore. Yaaay! It's not
just me!

~Amanda, happy




From bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 06:25:27 2002
From: bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com (bruinfan1988)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:25:27 -0000
Subject: CoS Premiere Webcast?
Message-ID: <apl9kn+qnh6@eGroups.com>

Anyone know if Warner Brothers is doing a premiere webcast for the 
London premiere like they did for SS?  I'm assuming not, as I 
couldn't find any info on the harrypotter.com website--but thought 
I'd ask in case anyone has heard anything.




From lindseyharrisst at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 29 09:54:22 2002
From: lindseyharrisst at hotmail.com (lindseyharrisst)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:22 -0000
Subject: Dumbledore suggestion
In-Reply-To: <000c01c27eff$c4f8dfc0$7004a6d8@texas.net>
Message-ID: <apllse+jhe4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Amanda Geist" <editor at t...> wrote:
> Marephraim said:
 I'd like to put in an opinion for Peter O'Toole. 
 Hi, Snapesangel here. I quite agree about the suitability of the
above. He can portray aching emotion with justa look. King Ralph,
though a very silly film, saw him give a fine and at times, moving
performance.I have heard on the BBC news in England today, that there
is a distinct possibility that Christopher Lee will play him. This is
great news, though it is n't confirmed as yet, as he has just the
right air of steeliness and wisdom to portray Dumbledor in the next
stage of the plot,  now things are geting darker. He also played a
wizard in Lord of the Rings, so we know he can do it. (Before I heard
anything, I thought of Richard Attenborough who is also english and
gives off an air of both likability and wisdom in roles in children's
films.)
ps 
to particular fans of Rihard Harris,I'd like to state that there is no
disrespect meant by talking about re-casting so soon after his death. 
Love Snapesangel 






From buffyeton at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 13:52:52 2002
From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:52:52 -0000
Subject: Any role for Anthony Stewart Head?
Message-ID: <apm3rk+9h9o@eGroups.com>

Tony Head, best known as Giles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, has to be 
my FAVORITE British actor.  Is there any role for him in POA or GOF? 
He is nearly 50, and I'm not quite sure how old Lupin and the rest 
are supposed to be.  




From primroseburrows at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 16:15:34 2002
From: primroseburrows at yahoo.com (Primrose Burrows)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:15:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Any role for Anthony Stewart Head?
In-Reply-To: <apm3rk+9h9o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021029161534.59503.qmail@web12906.mail.yahoo.com>


 
 Tamara <buffyeton at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Tony Head, best known as Giles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, has to be 
>my FAVORITE British actor.  Is there any role for him in POA or GOF? 
>He is nearly 50, and I'm not quite sure how old Lupin and the rest are supposed to be. 

 

Lupin, et. al., are probably in their mid-late thirties during POA. If Lupin and James were in the same year, and James was in his early twenties when Harry was born, then I think this is a good guess.

What about Karkaroff?  I think ASH would be great in that role.  

primrose

 




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From helevision at yahoo.com.au  Tue Oct 29 16:12:36 2002
From: helevision at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Helen=20M?=)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 03:12:36 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Work experience???
Message-ID: <20021029161236.82690.qmail@web21301.mail.yahoo.com>


Hi guys,

Within the next two weeks I will be completing my University degree (BA Film and Television). The other day my friend and I were joking about applying for work experience next year on big budget films like HP3 and Star Wars 3.

But that joking soon turned into serious thinking. Does anyone know of any way that we can contact someone we can talk to about getting work experience as a crew member on a Harry Potter film? I don't even know if they would take people for work experience, but it would be worth finding out. Where should I start?

Oh, I live in Australia BTW, so I can't exactly just phone around! lol.

Cheers, 

Helen xoxox



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From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 18:24:57 2002
From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:24:57 -0000
Subject: Oprah show highlights
Message-ID: <apmjpp+ruuu@eGroups.com>

Hi!
I'm a newbie, and I just wanted to let you know that I saw the 
wildfeed of today's Oprah.  There are 8 segments to the show:
1)  Introduction, a CoS viewing party,  CoS trailer (the 2nd year) 
and the dueling scene, followed by Oprah introducing Daniel Radcliffe
2)  Clip of the Harry & Ron in the flying Ford Anglia, reviews from 
the CoS viewing party,  DR's comments that he "loved the dueling 
scene," very brief shots of the spiders, Lockhart & Dobby, and clip 
of Lockhart trying to repair Harry's broken arm (the special effects 
have greatly improved!)
3)  Introduction of Rupert Grint and Emma Watson, clips of the 
Whomping Willow, Eat Slugs!, and Dobby (Oprah loves Dobby)
4)  Clip of Harry and Dobby,  special guest Matty (sorry can't 
remember his surname) who is presented with an invitation to Hogwarts 
and a wand by Daniel (can I just say, that DR is such a sweetie ... 
polite, courteous, and his parents are doing a wonderful job in 
raising him)
5)  Clip of the Rogue Bludger scene
6)  skip ... preview for the next Oprah show
7)  Clips of the Cornish pixies and drinking the polyjuice potion, 
and brief interview with David Heyman (in the audience) about meeting 
DR and how he got the role
8)  Oprah thanking the guests and audience and to check out the 
follow-up on the Oxygen network (which I unfortunately, do not get)

Thanks!!!

MarianneC





From Khirsah at gci.net  Tue Oct 29 19:48:00 2002
From: Khirsah at gci.net (Oren Bell Jr.)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:48:00 -0900
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Oprah show highlights
Message-ID: <62ab146274a4.6274a462ab14@snowy.gci.net>

Ack! I missed this! :( Any ideas if they'll replay it?
Jennifer






From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 20:00:56 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:00:56 -0000
Subject: Cornelius Fudge
Message-ID: <apmpdo+31qf@eGroups.com>

Hello, first time caller, long time listener!
    Since i'm a Big Monty Python fan, i thought it would be fun if 
Terry Jones could play the part of the head of the ministry, Mr. 
Fudge.  I think he could have just the right balance of cheekiness 
and pomposity!  Also, since i saw Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein" 
last night, i can't stop thinking about the guy who played Igor as a 
good match for the role of Moody.  Does anyone know if he's still 
alive?

thesinkster
"I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!!"
- Eddie Izzard




From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com  Tue Oct 29 20:03:13 2002
From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:03:13 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Oprah show highlights
Message-ID: <16f.1650c5a4.2af04381@aol.com>

if you live on the east coast you can see it at 4:oopm today on channel 7


In a message dated 10/29/02 3:00:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Khirsah at gci.net 
writes:

> 
> 
> Ack! I missed this! :( Any ideas if they'll replay it?
> Jennifer



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From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com  Tue Oct 29 20:03:58 2002
From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:03:58 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cornelius Fudge
Message-ID: <178.10dfae09.2af043ae@aol.com>

I believe his past away 


In a message dated 10/29/02 3:02:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
thesinkster at yahoo.com writes:

> 
> Hello, first time caller, long time listener!
>   Since i'm a Big Monty Python fan, i thought it would be fun if 
> Terry Jones could play the part of the head of the ministry, Mr. 
> Fudge.  I think he could have just the right balance of cheekiness 
> and pomposity!  Also, since i saw Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein" 
> last night, i can't stop thinking about the guy who played Igor as a 
> good match for the role of Moody.  Does anyone know if he's still 
> alive?
> 
> thesinkster
> "I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!!"
> - Eddie Izzard



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From sandirs at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 29 20:06:52 2002
From: sandirs at hotmail.com (Sandi Steinberg)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:06:52 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Oprah show highlights
Message-ID: <F167VwfrFLg0fIMhCT80001c1c4@hotmail.com>

Oren,

In the Washington, DC area, Oprah is reshown a week or two later in the 
early morning hours, aound 1 or 2 am.

Since her show is sindicated, you may want to call your local station about 
repeats.  In this area, the show is on Channel 7, which is part of the ABC 
network.

Sandi Steinberg
Arlington, VA






>Ack! I missed this! :( Any ideas if they'll replay it?
>Jennifer
>
>
>


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From joneses at isni.net  Tue Oct 29 17:23:19 2002
From: joneses at isni.net (EJ)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:23:19 -0500
Subject: TV Appearances 
In-Reply-To: <20021029161236.82690.qmail@web21301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20021029121717.009e7580@mail.isni.net>

Hello!

So far, there has been the round of ET, E!, Extra and MTV etc. interviews 
and clips on tv . There is the Oprah show today dedicated to the whole 
cast. There is also the Oprah After Show on the Oxygen network. My question 
is, is anyone taping all these TV appearances? I can't get Oxygen at all 
but I have seen the show before and  it will be interesting to see the HP 
cast behind the cameras. If anyone out there is taping all these, please 
contact me off list, I am interested in a copy for my daughter who turns 10 
on November 16th (Guess where we are going the day before??hehe).  I can be 
reached at  joneses at isni.net or 5joneses at earthlink.net Thank you in advance 
and I hope to hear from someone.

Erika J

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From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 22:14:12 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:14:12 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
Message-ID: <apn17k+7t85@eGroups.com>

Here I am, writing about the Oprah apearance as I watch it.  I love 
working at a tv station!
 
First, I think the screeening that Oprah has for those kids proves 
that all 2 hours + will be captivating!  "Too long" my arse!
Second, you should see how those young girls look at Daniel.  Wow.  
Total addoration.  They looked like they were about to cry or 
explode!!  Personally, i just about lost it when they showed the clip 
where Harry loses the bones in his arm (gross squishy noises!) and 
when Rupert Grint grossed out oprah with one of his tasty slugs.  all 
the these kids are so mature, it's scarry!  If only interviewers 
would devote more to Rupert and Emma.  My favorite part has to be 
when a crazy fan asks if daniel has a girlfriend, to which oprah 
responds,"he's only 13!" , to which the crazed young girl 
responds, "i'm only 14!"  this girl was dead serious about hooking up 
with mr. radcliffe!  wow... david heyman looks kinda... eww.

oh, ...ahhh!  the more footage i see, the less i can wait.  man, uhh, 
*cough*... good thing i get to see it a week early....*cough*

the sinkster
"I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!"




From ed4u at attbi.com  Tue Oct 29 22:35:08 2002
From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:35:08 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah
References: <apn17k+7t85@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003101c27f9b$6fbb4ec0$6401a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>

OMG I cant believe i missed it!! :-( Does anyone have it recorded!!! gosh
darnit!!!!

Katy
EDx2 Little Miss born 5/15/02 her brother Little Mr born 9/24/02
2nd IM preggers with G/B Twins due Jan 03
3rd retrevial expected Dec 02
Looking for Ips to be their GS :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "thesinkster" <thesinkster at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:14 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah


> Here I am, writing about the Oprah apearance as I watch it.  I love
> working at a tv station!
>
> First, I think the screeening that Oprah has for those kids proves
> that all 2 hours + will be captivating!  "Too long" my arse!
> Second, you should see how those young girls look at Daniel.  Wow.
> Total addoration.  They looked like they were about to cry or
> explode!!  Personally, i just about lost it when they showed the clip
> where Harry loses the bones in his arm (gross squishy noises!) and
> when Rupert Grint grossed out oprah with one of his tasty slugs.  all
> the these kids are so mature, it's scarry!  If only interviewers
> would devote more to Rupert and Emma.  My favorite part has to be
> when a crazy fan asks if daniel has a girlfriend, to which oprah
> responds,"he's only 13!" , to which the crazed young girl
> responds, "i'm only 14!"  this girl was dead serious about hooking up
> with mr. radcliffe!  wow... david heyman looks kinda... eww.
>
> oh, ...ahhh!  the more footage i see, the less i can wait.  man, uhh,
> *cough*... good thing i get to see it a week early....*cough*
>
> the sinkster
> "I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!"
>
>
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From mage_83 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 29 22:35:53 2002
From: mage_83 at hotmail.com (Dara Ware)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:35:53 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <003101c27f9b$6fbb4ec0$6401a8c0@ne2.client2.attbi.com>
Message-ID: <apn2g9+h55r@eGroups.com>

hey, 
I'm Dara (a newbie), and I'm currently watching Oprah for the second 
time in a row (huzzah for living between two different TV stations 
that syndicate Oprah at different times.

Anyways, for those of you who wanted to see the clips, The Leaky 
Cauldron put up a link to countingdown.com, where they have a TON of 
new clips.

They look AMAZING.

enjoy!

-Dara




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Tue Oct 29 22:46:18 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:46:18 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah
References: <apn17k+7t85@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBF0FBA.2040204@kingwoodcable.com>

thesinkster wrote:
> Here I am, writing about the Oprah apearance as I watch it.  I love 
> working at a tv station!
>  
> First, I think the screeening that Oprah has for those kids proves 
> that all 2 hours + will be captivating! 

I thought I heard the movie was 8 minutes longer than the last movie - coming in 
at a whopping 2 hours and 42 minutes!

I taping the Oprah show (I have no idea if it will work), but I'm not sure when 
I'll watch it. I want to see the previews, but I don't want to at the same time.

Katze





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 23:25:16 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:25:16 -0000
Subject: Cornelius Fudge
In-Reply-To: <178.10dfae09.2af043ae@aol.com>
Message-ID: <apn5cs+incj@eGroups.com>

LeeMunLim wrote:
> I believe his past away 

On a technical note, please add your comment *below* the post to 
which you're replying. Thank you. Apart from anything else, top 
posting makes it difficult to know to which element of the original 
post you were replying. 

To cover both eventualities, Terry Jones is very much alive and 
kicking; on the other hand, Marty Feldman (Igor from Y.F.) has been 
dead for 20 years... 

Oh, and in reply to the original poster, the role of Fudge has 
already been cast (he makes a small appearance in CoS for Hagrid's 
arrest), and he's played by Robert Hardy. Hardy has already been 
contracted for PoA as well.

Fantasy castings are therefore irrelevant. :-)






From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 29 23:35:03 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:35:03 -0000
Subject: 16 CoS Film Clips in one place
Message-ID: <apn5v7+oi52@eGroups.com>

Most of you probably already know this but I just found out and assume
there may be other unimformed people like myself.

CountingDown has 16, count them 16, trailers and film clips from the
movie 'Chamber of Secrets'.

http://www.countingdown.com/theater/trailers_clips/detail/2623570/

Just thought I would pass that along.

bboy_mn




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Wed Oct 30 00:17:00 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:17:00 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] 16 CoS Film Clips in one place
References: <apn5v7+oi52@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBF24FC.1D05FC65@ka.reg.uci.edu>



Steve wrote:

> CountingDown has 16, count them 16, trailers and film clips from the
> movie 'Chamber of Secrets'.
>
> http://www.countingdown.com/theater/trailers_clips/detail/2623570/

Is anyone else having trouble reviewing these files or is it just me?  I've only been able to see the first 2.

I did manage to see the first clip which shows Dobby.
Thankfully, he didnt remind of a certain other CGI character at all.

What do you guys think?

cheers,
Jenny




From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 00:45:27 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:45:27 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <3DBF0FBA.2040204@kingwoodcable.com>
Message-ID: <apna37+ilhv@eGroups.com>


> 
> I thought I heard the movie was 8 minutes longer than the last 
movie - coming in 
> at a whopping 2 hours and 42 minutes!
> 


sorry, i meant to say 2hours + however many odd minutes, since i 
couldn't remember the exact number.  if only it got to the 3 hour 
mark!




From fsuass at aol.com  Wed Oct 30 00:48:44 2002
From: fsuass at aol.com (fsuass at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:48:44 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah
Message-ID: <12d.19dddf2c.2af0866c@aol.com>

I checked out my TV Guide and it says the Oprah after show will be played on 
the Oxygen Network at 7:30 and 10:00Pm and again at Midnight. Have to get the 
VCR ready for action!

Jen



From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:06:15 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:06:15 -0000
Subject: 16 CoS Film Clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <3DBF24FC.1D05FC65@ka.reg.uci.edu>
Message-ID: <apnba7+l04@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Jennifer Prescott <jprescot at k...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve wrote:
> 
> > CountingDown has 16, count them 16, trailers and film clips from the
> > movie 'Chamber of Secrets'.
> >
> > http://www.countingdown.com/theater/trailers_clips/detail/2623570/
> 
> Is anyone else having trouble reviewing these files or is it just me? 
> I've only been able to see the first 2.
>
> What do you guys think?
> 
> cheers,
> Jenny

bboy_mn:
I've found CountingDown to be running at a snail pace all day. I've
had several pages time out, but was eventually able to get them to
come up. I think their servers must be really busy at the moment. Try
them later.

I watch 3 or 4 of the clips. The clip of Ron coughing slugs is laugh
out loud funny. 

bboy_mn




From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:19:06 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (Moonstruck)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:19:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <12d.19dddf2c.2af0866c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20021030011906.94960.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Once again these children are too cute to be believed!

I think it's probably a good thing that I *wasn't* at
that taping. I would feel mightily compelled to grab
Dan, put him in my bag, and take him home with me. I
don't think I can get anymore impressed with this kid.
And so smart! I never said words like "manifested"
(there were others, but I'm sick and my brain isn't
functioning properly) in conversation when I was
thirteen -- and I was a little smarty-pants. 

And Emma certainly has the Hermione attitude down pat!
Poor Rupert seems a bit unimpressed by it all. Just as
with Ron and Harry, everyone wants to hug Dan and
overlooks Rupert (though he did get a hug request).
They're all good kids, though.

I think we'll keep them :-D

-Jessica, who has nothing funny or interesting to add
here!


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From aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:29:28 2002
From: aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com (aaoconnor2002)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:29:28 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <apn17k+7t85@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apnclo+a6tb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "thesinkster" <thesinkster at y...> wrote:
  
> My favorite part has to be when a crazy fan asks if daniel has a 
>girlfriend, to which oprah responds,"he's only 13!" , to which the 
>crazed young girl responds, "i'm only 14!"  this girl was dead 
>serious about hooking up with mr. radcliffe!

Me:
14 year old girls can be as single-minded and sure of want they want 
as "older" girls can ;)   I didn't get to see the show.  Were there 
any clips of Snape?  After all, I'm ONLY 42!!

>good thing i get to see it a week early....*cough*

Me:
Lucky you. I have been trying frantically to win tickets to an 
advance showing from a local radio station but no luck yet.  My 
mother always said patience was a virtue but why do I have to be so 
virtuous right now?

Audrey
> "I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!"
Is that an Eddie Izzard quote I see?  Fan of Eddie and Harry Potter? 
What great taste you have!
 





From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Oct 30 01:31:28 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:31:28 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <20021030011906.94960.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apncpg+7du6@eGroups.com>

> And Emma certainly has the Hermione attitude down pat!
> Poor Rupert seems a bit unimpressed by it all. Just as
> with Ron and Harry, everyone wants to hug Dan and
> overlooks Rupert (though he did get a hug request).
> They're all good kids, though.

They are all just too cute.  Poor Emma didn't get a hug request.  
Leave it to my husband to volunteer!  ;)  I missed Oprah but got to 
see after the show.  Not only are the trio cute, but all those kids 
in the audience, too!

Dar




From kellybroughton at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:38:10 2002
From: kellybroughton at yahoo.com (kelly broughton)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:38:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Appearances/Oxygen
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20021029121717.009e7580@mail.isni.net>
Message-ID: <20021030013810.68346.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>

I, too, would love to see the Oxygen special; I didn't even know there WAS
an Oxygen channel. If anyone does have this taped, please contact me
offlist:

kellybroughton at yahoo.com

-kel

--- EJ <joneses at isni.net> wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> So far, there has been the round of ET, E!, Extra and MTV etc.
> interviews 
> and clips on tv . There is the Oprah show today dedicated to the whole 
> cast. There is also the Oprah After Show on the Oxygen network. My
> question 
> is, is anyone taping all these TV appearances? I can't get Oxygen at all
> 
> but I have seen the show before and  it will be interesting to see the
> HP 
> cast behind the cameras. If anyone out there is taping all these, please
> 
> contact me off list, I am interested in a copy for my daughter who turns
> 10 
> on November 16th (Guess where we are going the day before??hehe).  I can
> be 
> reached at  joneses at isni.net or 5joneses at earthlink.net Thank you in
> advance 
> and I hope to hear from someone.
> 
> Erika J
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:53:14 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (Moonstruck)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:53:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Appearances/Oxygen
In-Reply-To: <20021030013810.68346.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021030015314.9015.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Kel,

I recorded the Oxygen "After the Show" program with
the HP kids and am going to include it on the tape
with all of the other stuff. 

-Jess :)




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From kristilynn5 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:55:07 2002
From: kristilynn5 at yahoo.com (Kristi Smith)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:55:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Appearances/Oxygen
In-Reply-To: <20021030013810.68346.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021030015507.78083.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com>


I would also like a copy of Oxygen if anyone out there has one.  I saw the Oprah episode, but sadly, I do not get Oxygen in my satellite programming.  Contact me off-list at kristilynn5 at yahoo.com. 
 Thanks, Kristi
 kelly broughton <kellybroughton at yahoo.com> wrote:I, too, would love to see the Oxygen special; I didn't even know there WAS
an Oxygen channel. If anyone does have this taped, please contact me
offlist:

kellybroughton at yahoo.com

-kel

--- EJ <joneses at isni.net> wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> So far, there has been the round of ET, E!, Extra and MTV etc.
> interviews 
> and clips on tv . There is the Oprah show today dedicated to the whole 
> cast. There is also the Oprah After Show on the Oxygen network. My
> question 
> is, is anyone taping all these TV appearances? I can't get Oxygen at all
> 
> but I have seen the show before and  it will be interesting to see the
> HP 
> cast behind the cameras. If anyone out there is taping all these, please
> 
> contact me off list, I am interested in a copy for my daughter who turns
> 10 
> on November 16th (Guess where we are going the day before??hehe).  I can
> be 
> reached at  joneses at isni.net or 5joneses at earthlink.net Thank you in
> advance 
> and I hope to hear from someone.
> 
> Erika J
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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From myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 01:55:24 2002
From: myphilosophy2001 at yahoo.com (Moonstruck)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:55:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Apologies
In-Reply-To: <20021030015314.9015.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021030015524.99886.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm so sorry about that...forgot to change the address
again.

-Jess, who is banging her head against her dresser
right now so she'll remember next time



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From alexpie at aol.com  Wed Oct 30 02:03:05 2002
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:03:05 EST
Subject: Watching Oprah
Message-ID: <68.27e8c641.2af097d9@aol.com>

A tape of the show itself can be ordered through oprah.com, and the after 
show (the one that's on Oxygen) is already on the same site in Real Player 
and other formats.
 My favorite bit (aside from Rupert, whom I personally think is much cuter 
than Daniel), was when a young girl asked Oprah, "Do they have those accents 
in real life, or do they talk normal, like us?"
  Ba


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 30 02:09:16 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:09:16 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
References: <apn17k+7t85@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01c701c27fb9$5a351220$b7a2cdd1@istu757>

the sinkster wrote:

> the these kids are so mature, it's scarry!  If only interviewers
> would devote more to Rupert and Emma.  My favorite part has to be

I haven't seen the Oprah show yet, though my aunt taped it for me (I'll get
it this weekend!), but I did watch the "After the Show" on the Oprah
website.  Everybody together now: "They are SO CUTE!"  Okay, got that out of
my system. :)  I don't know how it was on the regular show, but on the after
the show part, Daniel would deliberately wait and even prompt Rupert to
answer questions.  Of course, Rupert said it was his first show, so he's not
very used to it.  Of course, Daniel's done them all and he's still nervous.
Might I add that he seems a lot more at ease with "back up."  They should do
group interviews more often.

> > http://www.countingdown.com/theater/trailers_clips/detail/2623570/

Jenny writes:

> Is anyone else having trouble reviewing these files or is it just me?
I've only been able to see the first 2.

I'm having trouble too.  I can get to the part where you choose a format,
then it acts like it's loading and nothing happens!  Grr.  Oh, sure, now
that I say it the next one worked.  Go figure.

Richelle





From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 04:07:27 2002
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:07:27 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <01c701c27fb9$5a351220$b7a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apnltv+5ji4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> the sinkster wrote:
...snip
> I don't know how it was on the regular show, but on the after
> the show part, Daniel would deliberately wait and even prompt 
> Rupert to answer questions.  
> ...snip...
> Of course, Rupert said it was his first show, so he's not very 
> used to it.  Of course, Daniel's done them all and he's still 
> nervous.
> 
> Richelle

This was really the first time Rupert has done a talk show???

I know he's done a lot of interviews, but in all this time, no talk show?
Wasn't he on Rosy??

Just goes to show what I know. 

So, is Rupert new hair too cool or what?

Sorry for the short post.

bboy_mn

PS: countingdown.com - same here and I've got DSL, but I was still
able to view them eventually.




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Oct 30 04:26:26 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:26:26 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: the cast on Oprah/ CoS film clips (possible spoilers!)
References: <apnltv+5ji4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c27fcc$83fc4840$49a3cdd1@istu757>


> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> > I don't know how it was on the regular show, but on the after
> > the show part, Daniel would deliberately wait and even prompt
> > Rupert to answer questions.
> > ...snip...
> > Of course, Rupert said it was his first show, so he's not very
> > used to it.  Of course, Daniel's done them all and he's still
> > nervous.

bboy_mn writes:

> This was really the first time Rupert has done a talk show???
> I know he's done a lot of interviews, but in all this time, no talk show?
> Wasn't he on Rosy??

That's what he said.  I think only Daniel was on Rosie.  I know only Daniel
was on David Letterman.  And Regis and Kelly.  And TRL, both times.

> So, is Rupert new hair too cool or what?

I love it.  My mom, however, hates it, and reminds me of that every chance
she gets. :)

Now, I've managed to see 8 or 9 of the clips at countingdown.com.  Warning,
possible spoilers ahead:

S

P

O

I

L

E

R

S

Okay, in the mandrake transplanting clip, why does Neville faint?  He's good
at herbology!  Why does he faint?!?  That makes no sense to me, at all, the
only explanation I can think of is that they're turning Neville into comic
relief.  Grr.

Richelle

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****
"May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out."
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****************************************************************************
****





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 04:30:31 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:30:31 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <01c701c27fb9$5a351220$b7a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apnn97+v98@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> wrote:
> Jenny writes:
> 
> > Is anyone else having trouble reviewing these files or is it 
just me?
> I've only been able to see the first 2.
> 
> I'm having trouble too.  I can get to the part where you choose a 
format,
> then it acts like it's loading and nothing happens!  Grr.  Oh, 
sure, now
> that I say it the next one worked.  Go figure.
> 
> Richelle

I'm having loads of trouble, too.  SOme of them work, some don't.  
It keeps telling me the something about wrong plug-ins, which I have 
the right ones I just downloaded them again to make sure!  And it 
says there is trouble with the file.    :-(

Alora




From virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 04:42:54 2002
From: virtualworldofhp at yahoo.com (Megan)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:42:54 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <apnn97+v98@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apno0e+shfg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "alora" <chrisnlorrie at y...> wrote:
> 
> I'm having loads of trouble, too.  SOme of them work, some don't.  
> It keeps telling me the something about wrong plug-ins, which I have 
> the right ones I just downloaded them again to make sure!  And it 
> says there is trouble with the file.    :-(
> 
> Alora

I'm getting flat-out 404 errors with clips 3, 9, and 12--trying EVERY
format listed.  Has anyone gotten these specific clips to load? 
Everything else has loaded for me...eventually.  CD was mighty slow
this afternoon :).

And the slugs one is by far one of the funniest things I have ever
seen.  I was seriously laughing out loud for about 20 minutes,
something which I hardly ever do with movies *grins*.

Fabulous!!  Why can't it be Nov. 15?!

-Megan




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Wed Oct 30 04:44:24 2002
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:44:24 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one
 place
References: <apnltv+5ji4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3DBF63A8.3050107@kingwoodcable.com>

Steve wrote:

> This was really the first time Rupert has done a talk show???
> 
> I know he's done a lot of interviews, but in all this time, no talk show?
> Wasn't he on Rosy??
> 
> Just goes to show what I know. 
> 
> So, is Rupert new hair too cool or what?

Rupert did the Rosie show before the first movie. I keep checking Caroline 
Rhea's site to see if she's going to have them on, but I haven't seen anything 
about HP on her schedule.

Ruperts hair was so cute! And he's funny...extremely funny...

One thing I've noticed is that I like Emma when she's on her shows - she seems a 
bit shy and very sweet, but I don't like the vibe she gives off in still photos. 
She never smiles, even though she's got such a cute smile. Perhaps she's nervous 
with all the photos and publicity, and that throws her off. She does seem like a 
sweet girl though.

Daniel was as cute as ever - doesn't seem to be as shy as he was last year.

Katze





From kesa101 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 05:08:48 2002
From: kesa101 at yahoo.com (kesa101)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:08:48 -0000
Subject: Oprah Repeat
Message-ID: <apnph0+n4bj@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know if this episode will repeat?  I can't believe it. 
You know how some VCR's need to be 'shut off' in order to record?  
Well.... I forgot to shut my VCR. I'm so bummed. :(




From editor at texas.net  Wed Oct 30 05:13:46 2002
From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist)
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:13:46 -0600
Subject: Richard Harris farewell, some quotes from HP adult cast
Message-ID: <017f01c27fd3$206aeaa0$d76463d1@texas.net>

A Richard Harris tidbit, courtesy of Georgiana off the Alan Rickman
Guestbook:

Copyright 2002 The Telegraph Group Limited
SUNDAY TELEGRAPH(LONDON)
October 27, 2002, Sunday
SECTION: Pg. 12
HEADLINE: Sad farewell to Harris, wizard to the stars Warm tributes for
Hollywood hellraiser and rugby fan who fought to the end
BYLINE: BY CHRIS HASTINGS

PETER O'TOOLE, the lifelong friend of Richard Harris, last night led
tributes to the 72-year-old actor who died on Friday after a long battle
with Hodgkin's disease.

"I am deeply sad. My love is with his family and a great spirit has gone,"
said Mr O'Toole, who broke off from filming in Tunisia to speak of his
sadness as news of Harris's death spread across the world.

Other friends and colleagues paid tribute to Harris, including Alan Rickman,
who co-starred alongside him in the first two Harry Potter films. "He was an
absolute professional who knew how to live life to the full," he said. "I
loved him: he was an extraordinary man. I count myself so lucky to have
worked with him. I used to sit next to him in the make-up chair on the set
of Harry Potter every morning and he would share his marvellous insights
into the works of Beckett and Shakespeare."

Rickman revealed: "He hadn't even read the Harry Potter books and was only
doing the film because his granddaughter said she'd not forgive him if he
didn't."

Despite his age, Harris still showed flashes of his hellraising past.
"Kenneth Branagh and I were in the bar with him one night and he was still
going at four in the morning with stories about his life," recalled Rickman.
"We just sat there with our mouths wide open.

"But the most amazing thing was that he was on set at 8am the next day to
read his lines to me even though he was off camera. That was the real mark
of the man."

Dame Maggie Smith, who starred as Prof Minerva McGonagall to Harris's Prof
Albus Dumbledore in the Harry Potter films, said: "My heart goes out to his
family. It is a great loss. I am going to miss him terribly.

"We walked around as a pair in Harry Potter. I always think Prof McGonagall
was madly in love with him anyway. It was a great pleasure to be with him
and it's going to be odd doing a Potter film without him. I just don't know
what we're going to do."

She added: "You had the feeling he was very frail on set, but he was always
there doing his bit. I think he loved the films precisely because he was
doing it for his grandchildren, who browbeat him into taking the part."
. . . . . . . . . .

Georgiana
Seattle - Sunday, October 27, 2002






From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 12:33:26 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:33:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <01c701c27fb9$5a351220$b7a2cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <20021030123326.13741.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Richelle Votaw <rvotaw at i-55.com> wrote:
<< I add that he seems a lot more at ease with "back
> up."  They should do
> group interviews more often.>>


I have a definite weakness for those bad boy Malfoy men
which prompts me to ask---Why didn't/don't they include Tom
Felton? Heroes are nothing without their villainous
counterparts. 



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From itzregina at hanson.net  Wed Oct 30 15:41:22 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:41:22 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <20021030123326.13741.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <apouj2+91i5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Barbara Sheridan <bsher213 at y...> wrote:

> 
> I have a definite weakness for those bad boy Malfoy men
> which prompts me to ask---Why didn't/don't they include Tom
> Felton? Heroes are nothing without their villainous
> counterparts. 
 
That's exactly what we've been wondering!  My youngest has a crush on 
Tom and was asking me why he isn't included on the promo tours.  
Also, she has been wanting a Barbie sized Draco to go with her Trio, 
but they just don't make any.

Gina





From itzregina at hanson.net  Wed Oct 30 15:43:59 2002
From: itzregina at hanson.net (Regina)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:43:59 -0000
Subject: Oprah Repeat
In-Reply-To: <apnph0+n4bj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apounv+2mj1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kesa101" <kesa101 at y...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if this episode will repeat?  I can't believe it. 
> You know how some VCR's need to be 'shut off' in order to record?  
> Well.... I forgot to shut my VCR. I'm so bummed. :(

I hate when that happens!
  All I know is that I caught last years Rosie repeat during the 
Chrismas season.  Maybe Oprah will do the same?  Also, I think the 
Oprah site sells videos of their episodes.

Gina




From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 16:02:56 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:02:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
Message-ID: <20021030160256.97050.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com>

I've watched this scene with (with a bit of extra Snape &
Lockhart)close to a dozen times this morning and each time
I find myself saying "What in the hell is Rickman doing
with his hands???"

And it's not so much that's he's really _doing_ anything
it's just the way he's holding his arms and vaguely
gesturing that is driving me up a wall. 

Is he attempting to imitate Lockhart's foppish manner? 

Once he's spins away and jerks his thumb to give Malfoy the
go ahead is definitely Snape but that hand/arm thing
*shudder* 

*shakes head* I'm having this vision that when I see that
bit on the big screen I'm going to give out a _loud_
*aaarrrgh!* and get tossed out...

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From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 17:21:08 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:21:08 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah
In-Reply-To: <apnclo+a6tb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <app4e4+hs7a@eGroups.com>

> >good thing i get to see it a week early....*cough*
> 
> Me:
> Lucky you. I have been trying frantically to win tickets to an 
> advance showing from a local radio station but no luck yet.  My 
> mother always said patience was a virtue but why do I have to be so 
> virtuous right now?

sinkster replies:
    oh man, i totally know how lucky i am.  i'm so happy i get to 
help our marketing staff with our party before the movie, and we're 
having a photo look-alike contest to give away passes.  some kids try 
really hard and some... er, don't, and it's obvious.  i can't wait to 
take pictures of our screening party and post them somewhere! 
> 
> Audrey
> > "I like my women like i like my coffee - in a plastic cup!!"
> Is that an Eddie Izzard quote I see?  Fan of Eddie and Harry 
Potter? 
> What great taste you have!

sink again:
my friend, i love eddie.  i think brits and canadians are the 
funniest people on earth.




From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 18:19:01 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:19:01 -0000
Subject: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
In-Reply-To: <20021030160256.97050.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <app7ql+ir8d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Barbara Sheridan <bsher213 at y...> wrote:
> I've watched this scene with (with a bit of extra Snape &
> Lockhart)close to a dozen times this morning and each time
> I find myself saying "What in the hell is Rickman doing
> with his hands???"
> 

Yeah, about that.  i'm hoping that on the big screen that scene will 
be a little clearer.  i couldnt' quite tell what he was doing, but it 
looked bitter and sarcastic.  unfortunately, it also looked 
*feminine*.  it is my hope of hopes that he is doing that as a way to 
make fun of Lockhart.  i swear, Snape/Rickman looks more woman-like 
every time i watch the quidditch scene from the first movie.  

sink

Death: come, Old Lady!  Let us ride the boat on the river styx...
Old Lady: NO!  I'm 82!  I got stuff to do!  Gotta sit around and talk 
weird for a coupla years...




From Dar20 at aol.com  Wed Oct 30 18:23:57 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:57 -0000
Subject: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
In-Reply-To: <app7ql+ir8d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <app83t+7fen@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "thesinkster" <thesinkster at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Barbara Sheridan <bsher213 at y...> wrote:
> > I've watched this scene with (with a bit of extra Snape &
> > Lockhart)close to a dozen times this morning and each time
> > I find myself saying "What in the hell is Rickman doing
> > with his hands???"
> > 
> 
> Yeah, about that.  i'm hoping that on the big screen that scene 
will 
> be a little clearer.  i couldnt' quite tell what he was doing, but 
it 
> looked bitter and sarcastic.  unfortunately, it also looked 
> *feminine*.  it is my hope of hopes that he is doing that as a way 
to 
> make fun of Lockhart.  i swear, Snape/Rickman looks more woman-like 
> every time i watch the quidditch scene from the first movie.  

It looked to me like he was snapping at Draco to get on the stage.  
However, I was viewing it in a medium size, and it was a bit choppy 
(even on T1 line).  

Dar




From bsher213 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 18:31:47 2002
From: bsher213 at yahoo.com (Barbara Sheridan)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:31:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Sink's comments Re: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
In-Reply-To: <app7ql+ir8d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20021030183147.15909.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com>


--- thesinkster <thesinkster at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, about that.  i'm hoping that on the big screen that
> scene will 
> be a little clearer.  i couldnt' quite tell what he was
> doing, but it 
> looked bitter and sarcastic.  unfortunately, it also
> looked 
> *feminine*.  it is my hope of hopes that he is doing that
> as a way to 
> make fun of Lockhart. >>

Exactly! However, bitter and sarcastic I can handel, hell I
expect that from Severus, but that bit in the dueling scene
comes across as too _prissy-girlie feminine_ and so out of
character to the Snape I know and love, pettiness, sarcasm
and all.  I hope the small size of the clip has something
to do with the "wrongness" of it.

> i swear, Snape/Rickman looks more
> woman-like 
> every time i watch the quidditch scene from the first
> movie. >>

I'm curious since it never struck me that way. Can you give
an example? 



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From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 30 18:45:46 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:45:46 -0000
Subject: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
In-Reply-To: <20021030160256.97050.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <app9cq+r3ve@eGroups.com>

Maybe when you see it in the cinema it will make more sense.  The
editing of the trailers is fast and furious with bits out of sequence,
purely for effect.

He may just be *mocking* Lockhart.  Something to watch out for on 8th
November.

Felicia

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., Barbara Sheridan <bsher213 at y...> wrote:
> I've watched this scene with (with a bit of extra Snape &
> Lockhart)close to a dozen times this morning and each time
> I find myself saying "What in the hell is Rickman doing
> with his hands???"





From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 18:54:26 2002
From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:26 -0000
Subject: Malfoy - duel scene
Message-ID: <app9t2+34co@eGroups.com>

Okay, as long as everyone else is mentioning this particular scene, 
I have a question.  What IS it that Malfoy says?  The spell, I 
mean.  I know what I THINK he says, but I am not sure.  Could 
someone enlighten me?  Thanks!

Alora




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 18:55:31 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:31 -0000
Subject: Blue Peter
Message-ID: <app9v3+h1vt@eGroups.com>

As was mentioned a couple of days ago, Rupert Grint and Bonnie Wright 
were on Blue Peter today (flagship kids' magazine programme on BBC). 

A couple of HP animal trainers with animals in tow were there as 
well. 

My video capture equipment isn't working right now, but for those who 
might be interesed, I've created MP3 files to tide us over until I've 
sorted myself out. 

http://plum.cream.org/HP/misc/bluepeter.htm

(Please don't mention this anywhere outside this list; I'll do some 
plugging when I have some pictures, if not video, to go with the 
sound.)






From ronib at mindspring.com  Wed Oct 30 19:23:33 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:23:33 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly
Message-ID: <appbjl+jfao@eGroups.com>

According to TV Guide online, Daniel Radcliffe will be appearing on 
Regis and Kelly on Wednesday, November 13. Set your VCRs!

Veronica




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Wed Oct 30 20:01:30 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:01:30 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly - erm....
In-Reply-To: <appbjl+jfao@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <appdqq+lfpb@eGroups.com>

Two things.

Firstly.  Who are Regis and Kelly.  Sorry.  Are they in the U.K. or
U.S.   If UK may we have a time and a channel please?

Secondly, having listened to GulPlum's soundbite from Blue Peter,
Rupert Grint's voice is even deeper than it sounds on the film
clips!!! Excellent sound quality thought, thank you.

Felicia



--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Veronica" <ronib at m...> wrote:
> According to TV Guide online, Daniel Radcliffe will be appearing on 
> Regis and Kelly on Wednesday, November 13. Set your VCRs!
> 
> Veronica







From thesinkster at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 20:43:57 2002
From: thesinkster at yahoo.com (thesinkster)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:43:57 -0000
Subject: Sink's comments Re: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
In-Reply-To: <20021030183147.15909.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <appgad+i5uk@eGroups.com>


> 
> > i swear, Snape/Rickman looks more
> > woman-like 
> > every time i watch the quidditch scene from the first
> > movie. >>
> 
> I'm curious since it never struck me that way. Can you give
> an example? 

Sure.  IMHO, when I watch the Quidditch scene in the first movie, it 
just looks like Rickman/Snape has lots of make-up on and it looks 
like he has a woman's hair-cut.  that's all.

sink




From plumeski at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 20:51:52 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:51:52 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly - erm....
In-Reply-To: <appdqq+lfpb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <appgp8+2eeq@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> Two things.
> 
> Firstly.  Who are Regis and Kelly.  Sorry.  Are they in the U.K. or
> U.S.   If UK may we have a time and a channel please?

Sorry, Felicia, I wouldn't mind seeing it myself, but it's on over 
there <GulPlum gets out his long left arm and points to the other 
side of the Atlantic>. No UK channel carries it. However, the 
programme was doubtless pre-recorded last week when the kids were 
Stateside so I doubt there'll be anything new.

> Secondly, having listened to GulPlum's soundbite from Blue Peter,
> Rupert Grint's voice is even deeper than it sounds on the film
> clips!!! Excellent sound quality thought, thank you.

You're welcome. ;-) As for the voice, I noticed it too!

Incidentally, I got the impression that Rupert looked distinctly 
bored. I don't really blame him, having to answer the same anodyne 
questions again and again ... and again.

He only seemed to liven up when he pulled out the artificial (but 
VERY lifelike) slug with which to disgust the woman presenter. :-) I 
don't share Rupert's (or Ron's) squeamishness (I spent the whole 
summer battling a massive slug invasion in our garden), but even I 
came out with a "YUK!" when it appeared!

OT Note: this was the first time I'd watched Blue Peter in about 20 
years. The first thing which came to my mind is "it's really gone 
downhill since I was a kid"... I was particularly disheartened by the 
lack of the studio animals.





From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 30 21:13:09 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:13:09 +0000
Subject: New countingdown clips/fan mail
Message-ID: <F106EUJlWZO8x96PnPl00000bee@hotmail.com>








I just watched the new clips--a generous helping they've served us--and I 
hate to say it, bu although I loved to see Harry & co made flesh in familiar 
and much lived situations, there were so many details I was unhappy with. I 
realize of course that I can't expect my own particular vision to show up on 
the screen. My own movie version, playing exclusively in my head, is more 
comprehensive and accurate in terms of a movie adaption than the real thing 
on screen could ever be and it must be so, but oh, I thought several of the 
clips were so toned down in intensity compared to the book and I don't know 
why the director would choose this approachs.
For instance, the broken arm clip: I always envisioned Harry moaning and 
sort of writhing on the ground with pain. The line "not you" I rather 
thought he said more to himself than straight to Lockharts face in that odd 
fashion. (I know I'm seriously knit-picking here, but where better to do it 
on this list? I would love to have you all persuade me that I'm wrong, 
wrong, wrong, and that all shall be well in the end).
Another incident toned down on screen: The "eat slugs" scuffle. Where, oh, 
where is the UPROAR at Malfoy's mudblood-line, and why does it feel like 
everyone takes at least two seconds two long to pick up on their cues? WHY, 
WHY?
I felt the same way about line-delivery in the Flourish and Blotts clip--as 
though everyone was continually taking a step forward before saying 
something and politely waiting for each other to do their thing.
More toned down stuff: the transformation in Myrtle's bathroom is very 
dramatic and intense, but in the clip a smooth, noiseless and painfree bit 
of business.  (Although I suppose Chris wanted to avoid any 
Hulk-associations that would have inevitably turned up inevitably if the 
scene had been done as it is described by Rowling)
I LOOOOOVED Dobby, though.
OK. Please, everybody,  jump down my throat, give me a good teeling off and 
show me what's what. I really need it. I don't like feeling so critical and 
I wish it would go away...


One question, completely unrelated to the above: I thought it would be fun 
to know whether any of you have written fan-mail to any of the cast and 
whether you received any replies. Any takers?

Sophia



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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 30 21:32:00 2002
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophia mclaughlin)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:32:00 +0000
Subject: my mistake-sorry
Message-ID: <F62PiKJlIkQ9Y9o0j0600010945@hotmail.com>



Just saw my posting on the site and wanted to apologize for dreadful 
spelling and typing mistakes. How embarrassing! Guess I was a little upset 
while writing the post. Sorry. I'll read my comments through before posting 
next time.

Sophia


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From ronib at mindspring.com  Wed Oct 30 22:02:14 2002
From: ronib at mindspring.com (Veronica)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:02:14 -0000
Subject: New countingdown clips/fan mail
In-Reply-To: <F106EUJlWZO8x96PnPl00000bee@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <appkt6+9436@eGroups.com>

sophia mclaughlin wrote:
> For instance, the broken arm clip: I always 
> envisioned Harry moaning and sort of writhing 
> on the ground with pain. The line "not you" I 
> rather thought he said more to himself than 
> straight to Lockharts face in that odd 
> fashion. (I know I'm seriously knit-picking 
> here, but where better to do it on this list? 
> I would love to have you all persuade me that 
> I'm wrong, wrong, wrong, and that all shall be 
> well in the end).
>
> Another incident toned down on screen: The "eat 
> slugs" scuffle. Where, oh, where is the UPROAR 
> at Malfoy's mudblood-line, and why does it feel 
> like everyone takes at least two seconds two long 
> to pick up on their cues? WHY, WHY?
<snip>
> More toned down stuff: the transformation in Myrtle's bathroom is 
> very dramatic and intense, but in the clip a smooth, noiseless and 
> painfree bit of business.  (Although I suppose Chris wanted to 
> avoid any Hulk-associations that would have inevitably turned up 
> inevitably if the scene had been done as it is described by Rowling)
>
> Sophia
> 
Veronica replies:

I would love to be able to honestly say you are wrong for your 
concerns and arguements, but I can't. I'm with you 100%. I can only 
hope that the Mudblood/Slug scene is edited better in the movie that 
in the trailer. It seemed like no one cared but Ron that Malfoy was 
so insulting -- even Ron's response seemed delayed and rather 
listless.

Same with the transformations via Polyjuice Potion. Also, weren't 
their voices suppose to change as well? I'll have to look that up, 
but I was sure they didn't sound like Ron and Harry after the 
transformation -- I mean, Malfoy is evil, but he isn't stupid.

I had the same problems with the first movie, though. So, I'll just 
shut up now, and go back to my corner and pout. =)

Veronica




From jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu  Wed Oct 30 22:42:55 2002
From: jprescot at ka.reg.uci.edu (Jennifer Prescott)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:42:55 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New countingdown clips/fan mail
References: <F106EUJlWZO8x96PnPl00000bee@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DC0606F.AD47B8C6@ka.reg.uci.edu>



sophia mclaughlin wrote:

> For instance, the broken arm clip: I always envisioned Harry moaning and
> sort of writhing on the ground with pain.

I dunno -- I've always imagined that Harry puts on a brave face and wouldn't want to be seen writhing around on the
ground in pain.  It would seem to me that he would want to avoid the attention that might be gathered by his
writhing.  Guess I can't agree with you on that one.  :o)


sophia mclaughlin also wrote:

> The line "not you" I rather
> thought he said more to himself than straight to Lockharts face in that odd
> fashion. (I know I'm seriously knit-picking here, but where better to do it
> on this list? I would love to have you all persuade me that I'm wrong,
> wrong, wrong, and that all shall be well in the end).

For the sake of argument, I could say you're wrong *grin* but I can't -- I agree.  I never imagined Harry saying
that to his face.  I rather thought he said it under his breath in a sort of "oh god" kind of way.  *shrug*


and then sophia mclaughlin wrote:

> Another incident toned down on screen: The "eat slugs" scuffle. Where, oh,
> where is the UPROAR at Malfoy's mudblood-line, and why does it feel like
> everyone takes at least two seconds two long to pick up on their cues? WHY,
> WHY?

I've just finally gotten to see this bit and yeah, it does seem odd, doesnt it?  Why don't all the Gryffindors get
angry at the name calling?  Even more disturbing (to me) is the fact that Ron doesn't react as horrified as I
imagined he would or should.  Also, Harry doesn't look the least bit confused by the name, which in the book, had
to be explained to him before we was outraged.  Shouldn't he look confused at this point?


after that, sophia mclaughlin wrote:

> I LOOOOOVED Dobby, though.
> OK. Please, everybody,  jump down my throat, give me a good teeling off and
> show me what's what. I really need it. I don't like feeling so critical and
> I wish it would go away...

I was prepared to hate Dobby, but no.. he's actually quite good.  Well, I had months to get used to the voice,
thankfully, as it's nothing as I imagined, but really, he's not as annoying as I feared. :)

I think the film makers will love us being critical.  If we're not critical and paying attention to every little
detail, they may feel that all their work has gone to waste. haha

Anyhow, that's my two cents.
Cheers,
jenny





From lauren.healy at tesco.net  Wed Oct 30 22:45:15 2002
From: lauren.healy at tesco.net (Lauren Healy)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:45:15 -0000
Subject: Not being able to see Oprah
In-Reply-To: <1035942796.1899.34077.m2@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <MBBBIJLGHHKMCFCGKJCCEEFKCBAA.lauren.healy@tesco.net>




    Hello,
		I'm kinda new to this group, so please bear with me!
Like I said, I couldn't see Oprah for one reason.  I'M BLOODY ENGLISH!  We
don't have Operah, or TRL or ANY  of the American stuff that they (the Trio,
Dan, etc) have been on.  I hate living in England.  Do any of you know where
I can see and of this stuff, because I'm, like, dying here in this cold
country, waiting until I can see the film (going on the 9th of
November!!!!!)

OK, that's about it for now!

Love Lauren  :-)

PS.  To whoever has that Eddie Izzard quote - Great taste!!  Eddie rocks!!
Have you, by any chance, seen his video 'Dress to Kill'?  If you haven't,
do!!!




From ferretlovr at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 30 22:54:58 2002
From: ferretlovr at yahoo.com (Jessica)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:54:58 -0000
Subject: the cast on Oprah/ 16 CoS film clips in one place
In-Reply-To: <apnltv+5ji4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <appo02+chf9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> PS: countingdown.com - same here and I've got DSL, but I was still
> able to view them eventually.

Have you been able to get all 15 to work?  I can't seem to get clip 
3, 9, 12, or 13 to load.  And I really wanted to see clip 3 and 9 
especially!  (3 is where he meets Lucius, 9 is the duel)  I don't 
know if it's a problem on my end, or on countingdown's. 

Jessica
moonlight69




From mapleleaf_71 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 30 23:10:47 2002
From: mapleleaf_71 at hotmail.com (wildrosegirl76)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:10:47 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly - erm....
In-Reply-To: <appgp8+2eeq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <appotn+doa4@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> Sorry, Felicia, I wouldn't mind seeing it myself, but it's on over 
> there <GulPlum gets out his long left arm and points to the other 
> side of the Atlantic>. No UK channel carries it. However, the 
> programme was doubtless pre-recorded last week when the kids were 
> Stateside so I doubt there'll be anything new.

No, the show is broadcast live every morning from New York. In fact 
their proper title is Live! with Regis and Kelly. It is possible they 
pretaped the interview, but that scenario is unlikely.

Isn't there a New York premiere of the movie in the days before the 
15th? That would require at least the kids to be in the city that 
week.  




From Flutesforme at aol.com  Thu Oct 31 01:01:38 2002
From: Flutesforme at aol.com (Flutesforme at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:01:38 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS clips not working
Message-ID: <197.fd6fa2e.2af1daf2@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/30/2002 3:55:39 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
ferretlovr at yahoo.com writes:

> Have you been able to get all 15 to work?  I can't seem to get clip 
> 3, 9, 12, or 13 to load.  And I really wanted to see clip 3 and 9 
> especially!  (3 is where he meets Lucius, 9 is the duel)  I don't 
> know if it's a problem on my end, or on countingdown's. 


De-lurking to add that I haven't been able to get 3, 9, or 12 to work. I 
really want to see them, too! My roommate and I tried on her computer and 
mine, and the same ones didn't work on hers. I hope they fix the problems!





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Thu Oct 31 01:15:00 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:15:00 -0000
Subject: Malfoy - duel scene
In-Reply-To: <app9t2+34co@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apq06k+bbtu@eGroups.com>

 "alora" wrote:
>   What IS it that Malfoy says?  The spell, I 
> mean.  I know what I THINK he says, but I am not sure.  Could 
> someone enlighten me?  

I don't think the film spell Malfoy uses is in the dueling scene in 
the book.  In CoS Ch. 11, it says that "Malfoy's spell hit Harry so 
hard he felt as though he'd been hit over the head with a 
saucepan."  They may have created a spell especially for this 
scene.  I'm quite open, though, if anyone knows something I don't.
--Nia





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 01:32:02 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:32:02 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly - erm....
In-Reply-To: <appotn+doa4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apq16i+c72h@eGroups.com>

"wildrosegirl76" wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "GulPlum" <plumeski at y...> wrote:
> > Sorry, Felicia, I wouldn't mind seeing it myself, but it's on 
over 
> > there <GulPlum gets out his long left arm and points to the other 
> > side of the Atlantic>. No UK channel carries it. However, the 
> > programme was doubtless pre-recorded last week when the kids were 
> > Stateside so I doubt there'll be anything new.
> 
> No, the show is broadcast live every morning from New York. In fact 
> their proper title is Live! with Regis and Kelly. It is possible 
they 
> pretaped the interview, but that scenario is unlikely.

Considering we have a very good precedent for the opposite, I beg to 
differ: last year's R&K interview was broadcast on 20th November (I 
just checked), whilst the kids famously were on the film set that 
entire week (apart from the fact that several HP web sites state that 
the interview was pre-recorded).

Consdering the kids spent last week in the States, it's incredibly 
unlikely that they're going to be flying back to New York for one 
single interview! 

> Isn't there a New York premiere of the movie in the days before the 
> 15th? That would require at least the kids to be in the city that 
> week.

Not necessarily. I have doubts that the kids will be present. Last 
year was very different: they went on a promotional blitz during the 
month prior to the film's opening and immediately afterwards went 
back to the studio to start on CoS. 

This year, they've been at their regular schools since the beginning 
of the academic year, and it is not coincidental that last week's 
American trip coincided with a school break. 

Sure, it's possible that the kids might fly out to New York for a 
weekend for the premiere (after all, it's only 5 hours each way from 
London), but in view of the stress everyone seems to be making about 
their return to normal school life, I doubt they'll be taking any 
full days off, so if they *do* appear at the premiere, it'll only be 
a whistle-stop visit.

I must admit that I find it quite bizarre that no date for New York 
or LA premieres appears to have been announced - a search of the 
usual web sites is turning up nothing, beyond the UK premiere on the 
3rd...




From Dar20 at aol.com  Thu Oct 31 01:51:20 2002
From: Dar20 at aol.com (Darlene)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:51:20 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly - erm....
In-Reply-To: <apq16i+c72h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apq2ao+l2kp@eGroups.com>

> I must admit that I find it quite bizarre that no date for New York 
> or LA premieres appears to have been announced - a search of the 
> usual web sites is turning up nothing, beyond the UK premiere on 
the 
> 3rd...

It was announced a couple of weeks ago that the LA premiere is on 
Nov. 14th at Mann's theatre in Westwood (I can't remember where it 
was first posted, though).

I'm sure the NY premiere date was announced a long time ago.  Many 
places have had contests to win tickets to it for a while now.  
However, I don't know the date off of the top of my head.

Dar




From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com  Thu Oct 31 03:47:27 2002
From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:47:27 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sink's comments Re: CoS Clips/Dueling scene
Message-ID: <74.25980ebc.2af201cf@aol.com>

Just wait until the prisoner when Snape is in longbottoms grandmothers dress

Can we panic now ron weasley 



In a message dated 10/30/02 3:45:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
thesinkster at yahoo.com writes:

> 
> >
> >>i swear, Snape/Rickman looks more
> >>woman-like 
> >>every time i watch the quidditch scene from the first
> >>movie. >>
> >
> >I'm curious since it never struck me that way. Can you give
> >an example? 
> 
> Sure.  IMHO, when I watch the Quidditch scene in the first movie, it 
> just looks like Rickman/Snape has lots of make-up on and it looks 
> like he has a woman's hair-cut.  that's all.
> 
> sink



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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 31 03:54:12 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:54:12 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Regis and Kelly - erm....
References: <apq16i+c72h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <023b01c28091$2d18abc0$7ea1cdd1@istu757>

GulPlum writes:

> Consdering the kids spent last week in the States, it's incredibly
> unlikely that they're going to be flying back to New York for one
> single interview!
>
> I must admit that I find it quite bizarre that no date for New York
> or LA premieres appears to have been announced - a search of the
> usual web sites is turning up nothing, beyond the UK premiere on the
> 3rd...

Err, actually they have been announced.  The New York premiere is November
10th, Los Angeles is November 14th.  I promise I didn't imagine it. :)  It
is highly likely the Regis and Kelly interview was prerecorded (which, in
fact, is highly unusual for that show), though if Daniel is planning to
attend both U.S. premieres (even more highly unlikely!) he would be in the
U.S. at that time.  Go figure.

Richelle




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 31 03:56:28 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:56:28 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New countingdown clips/fan mail
References: <F106EUJlWZO8x96PnPl00000bee@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <024a01c28091$7e31c780$7ea1cdd1@istu757>

Sophia writes:

> For instance, the broken arm clip: I always envisioned Harry moaning and
> sort of writhing on the ground with pain. The line "not you" I rather
> thought he said more to himself than straight to Lockharts face in that
odd
> fashion. (I know I'm seriously knit-picking here, but where better to do
it
> on this list? I would love to have you all persuade me that I'm wrong,
> wrong, wrong, and that all shall be well in the end).

Well, I never imagined Harry writhing in pain.  He was, though supposed to
pass out after he hit the ground.  Which appears to have been eliminated.
However, I think they're working extra hard to make Harry more "macho" this
time, since some thought SS/PS made him look like a wimp.  I think they've
succeeded!  Oh, and he wasn't supposed to be looking at his arm while
Lockhart was "fixing" it either.  And he's staring right at it, transfixed.
But the expression on his face is adorable, so that's not so bad either.

Richelle

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From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com  Thu Oct 31 03:57:52 2002
From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:57:52 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS clips not working
Message-ID: <80.23c6f349.2af20440@aol.com>

I have been able to get all the clips except the flying car one 

Lee



In a message dated 10/30/02 8:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Flutesforme at aol.com writes:

> In a message dated 10/30/2002 3:55:39 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
> ferretlovr at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> >Have you been able to get all 15 to work?  I can't seem to get clip 
> >3, 9, 12, or 13 to load.  And I really wanted to see clip 3 and 9 
> >especially!  (3 is where he meets Lucius, 9 is the duel)  I don't 
> >know if it's a problem on my end, or on countingdown's. 
> 
> 
> De-lurking to add that I haven't been able to get 3, 9, or 12 to work. I 
> really want to see them, too! My roommate and I tried on her computer and 
> mine, and the same ones didn't work on hers. I hope they fix the problems!



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From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com  Thu Oct 31 04:04:24 2002
From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:04:24 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Oprah Repeat
Message-ID: <17.30d85061.2af205c8@aol.com>

If you go on the Oprah website I think you can buy the tape 

Lee


In a message dated 10/30/02 10:45:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
itzregina at hanson.net writes:

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at y..., "kesa101" <kesa101 at y...> wrote:
> >Does anyone know if this episode will repeat?  I can't believe it. 
> >You know how some VCR's need to be 'shut off' in order to record?  
> >Well.... I forgot to shut my VCR. I'm so bummed. :(
> 
> I hate when that happens!
>  All I know is that I caught last years Rosie repeat during the 
> Chrismas season.  Maybe Oprah will do the same?  Also, I think the 
> Oprah site sells videos of their episodes.
> 
> Gina



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From pennylin at swbell.net  Thu Oct 31 04:13:13 2002
From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny Linsenmayer)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:13:13 -0600
Subject: ADMIN: Please avoid repetition
Message-ID: <05f501c28093$d4f1a7f0$4f5ffea9@cq5hs01>

Hi everyone --

A friendly reminder from the Mod Tower: please be sure to not repeat the
same information over & over again.  We've now heard at least 3 people
comment that the Oprah website sells videotapes of the programs.  Just read
through all the messages posted that day before responding and try to ensure
that you're not saying the same thing that others have already said.

Also, please avoid one-liners!  If you have several short comments to make,
combine them into a single message (and be sure that the message is mostly
substantive (not Off-Topic)).

Thanks,

Penny
for the Mods





From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Thu Oct 31 07:26:33 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:33 -0000
Subject: CoS Premiere Webcast?
In-Reply-To: <apl9kn+qnh6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apqlv9+uvdp@eGroups.com>

 "bruinfan1988" wrote:
> Anyone know if Warner Brothers is doing a premiere webcast for the 
> London premiere like they did for SS?  

WB just posted the link and the times for the 3rd of November London 
premier webcast on the official HP site. :-)
-- Nia




From feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com  Thu Oct 31 08:37:54 2002
From: feliciarickmann at dsl.pipex.com (Felicia Rickmann)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:37:54 -0000
Subject: Trailers and clips  - calling a halt
In-Reply-To: <024a01c28091$7e31c780$7ea1cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <apqq52+a49c@eGroups.com>

Am I alone in worrying about the deluge of clips that seem to be
pouring out of Warner Bros?  

At the current rate what point will there be in seeing the film
anyway?     There will be No surprises, No *ooooh* moments because
they will allhave been killed stone dead by teh *been there seen that*
trailer brigade. No *Aah* moments because all the cute stuff will have
been discussed to death...

I am calling a half to trailer gazing and not bothering to look at any
more Including the batch under discussion now), if I can't wait a few
weeks for the film to come out then I might as well give up.

Felicia





From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 12:16:03 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:16:03 -0000
Subject: Trailers and clips  - calling a halt
In-Reply-To: <apqq52+a49c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <apr6u3+hdbu@eGroups.com>

Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> Am I alone in worrying about the deluge of clips that seem to be
> pouring out of Warner Bros?  

<snip>

No. I agree with you wholeheartedly. On the other hand, this isn't 
entirely a novel phenomenon. I remember when E.T. first came out, I'd 
already seen every important scene on TV before I saw the movie - and 
that was before the Internet!

To be perfectly honest, I've not bothered watching any of the CoS 
clips; I've been actively avoiding them. I saw the Pixies scene a 
couple of weeks ago when my nephews were visiting and decided that 
I'd prefer to see everything in context rather than in bitty chunks. 
I'm lapping up any interviews, though. :-)

One thing that astonishes me is the way the media seems to have 
played along with the spirit of the movie and refuse to say anything 
much about Tom Riddle - I'd expect someone to have spilled the beans 
by now. :-) On the other hand, I feel a bit sorry for Christian 
Coulson - his biggest role to date, and nobody's talking about it. :-)

-- 
GulPlum AKA Richard, who is currently watching a (real) White Witch 
on TV explaining all about Real Magic. (Coming up: "The Animals of 
Harry Potter")






From gandharvika at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 31 13:06:03 2002
From: gandharvika at hotmail.com (Gail Bohacek)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:03 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailers and clips - calling a halt
Message-ID: <F50Zp6quaCZJ4aCUYDm0000d75a@hotmail.com>

Felicia Wrote:
>Am I alone in worrying about the deluge of clips that seem to be
>pouring out of Warner Bros?
>
>At the current rate what point will there be in seeing the film
>anyway?     There will be No surprises, No *ooooh* moments because
>they will all have been killed stone dead by the *been there seen that*
>trailer brigade. No *Aah* moments because all the cute stuff will have
>been discussed to death...


Oh!  Amen to that!  I was just thinking about the same thing.  I haven't 
taken a look at any of the clips myself, and I was almost thinking about 
unsubscribing from HP4G-Movie until after the opening of CoS because I'm 
feeling like it's going to spoil my experience.  I don't own a television, 
so I haven't even seen any of the interviews either...but I don't feel like 
I'm missing anything...I'm saving myself for opening night!

-Gail B....we can discuss everything *AFTER* we see the movie, eh?'

Oh, Happy Halloween everybody!



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From plumeski at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 31 13:40:54 2002
From: plumeski at yahoo.com (GulPlum)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:40:54 -0000
Subject: Regis and Kelly / US premieres
In-Reply-To: <023b01c28091$2d18abc0$7ea1cdd1@istu757>
Message-ID: <aprbt6+omhj@eGroups.com>

Richelle Votaw wrote:


> Err, actually they have been announced.  The New York premiere is 
November
> 10th, Los Angeles is November 14th.  I promise I didn't imagine 
it. :)  It
> is highly likely the Regis and Kelly interview was prerecorded 
(which, in
> fact, is highly unusual for that show), though if Daniel is 
planning to
> attend both U.S. premieres (even more highly unlikely!) he would be 
in the
> U.S. at that time.  Go figure.

I didn't say that weren't going to be any gala premieres, or even 
that they hadn't been announced, only that I couldn't find any 
details. :-) Thanks for the info.

I'm now going to eat my words (well, maybe not eat them, but 
introduce an amendment). I'm no longer so doubtful about the kids 
being given time off school, as it seems that Rupert's due to be on 
Letterman on the 13th (?), and it would be weird for that to be pre-
recorded. As a result, I expect that the kids will be sent off to the 
States for that week to attend the premieres (especially as they're 
so close together) and to do some more publicity. Being on R&K live 
on the 18th no longer seems to be such a long shot...






From penumbra10 at ameritech.net  Thu Oct 31 16:15:19 2002
From: penumbra10 at ameritech.net (Nia)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:15:19 -0000
Subject: Trailers and clips  - calling a halt
In-Reply-To: <apqq52+a49c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <aprkun+j6nh@eGroups.com>

"Felicia Rickmann" wrote:
> Am I alone in worrying about the deluge of clips that seem to be
> pouring out of Warner Bros?  
> 
> At the current rate what point will there be in seeing the film
> anyway?     There will be No surprises, No *ooooh* moments because
> they will allhave been killed stone dead by teh *been there seen 
that*
> trailer brigade. <snip> I am calling a half to trailer gazing and 
not bothering to look at any more <snip>

Felicia, you must have been reading my mind.  With all the clips out 
there now, you can almost piece together the entire film. That is, 
unless the clips were not actually taken from the film and are 
snippets of outtakes or unused shots.  At any rate, I'm done with 
little bits and pieces of the film and will sit tight until the 
premier.  I'll just tell myself: "I'm an adult. I can wait, I can 
wait, I can wait..."
--Nia




From stevebinch at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 31 23:21:02 2002
From: stevebinch at hotmail.com (Steve Binch)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:21:02 -0700
Subject: Moaning Myrtle
References: <1036027924.1216.79568.m3@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <DAV75IIso0XTLskNCVK0000c868@hotmail.com>

I was just thinking about the character/actor of Moaning Myrtle and how well
she seamed to fit the role (after seeing the clip). Then it accured to me
that in book 4 (I can't recall if she appears in book 3, I don't think she
does) the young actor playing Myrtle will be about 3 years older. I wonder
if they already shot the scene that she's in in GoF, or if they'll just drop
her part and have Harry discover the singing egg on his own. Any thought? Or
has anyone heard anything about this?

-Steve B



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 31 23:41:48 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:41:48 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailers and clips  - calling a halt
References: <apqq52+a49c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <017b01c28137$1547b300$aba2cdd1@istu757>

Felicia writes:


> Am I alone in worrying about the deluge of clips that seem to be
> pouring out of Warner Bros?
>
> I am calling a half to trailer gazing and not bothering to look at any
> more Including the batch under discussion now), if I can't wait a few
> weeks for the film to come out then I might as well give up.

No.  No, no, no.  In fact, the trailer gazing and clips are all the gazing I
get to do!  I don't actually go to movie theaters, so I'm living off of
those until May, June, whenever the DVD comes out.  Anyway, one note about
so many clips, my thoughts are that they really haven't showed us anything
that major.  For example, we don't see the flying car actually hitting the
whomping willow and "being whomped."  We don't see Harry being hit by the
bludger, just before and after.  We don't see much at all of the spiders.
We don't see much of the petrification of students.  We don't see anything
in the chamber.  Anything at all.  I think that, in fact, the final chamber
scene will be so dramatic that it's all that's needed to keep the suspense
alive.  Just think, Christian Coulson, Daniel Radcliffe with a sword, and
little Bonnie Wright.  Oh, yeah, and one really big basilisk.  Wow.

Richelle

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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Oct 31 23:55:50 2002
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:55:50 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moaning Myrtle
References: <1036027924.1216.79568.m3@yahoogroups.com> <DAV75IIso0XTLskNCVK0000c868@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c28139$0b06a8e0$aba2cdd1@istu757>


Steve B writes:

> I was just thinking about the character/actor of Moaning Myrtle and how
well
> she seamed to fit the role (after seeing the clip). Then it accured to me
> that in book 4 (I can't recall if she appears in book 3, I don't think she
> does) the young actor playing Myrtle will be about 3 years older. I wonder
> if they already shot the scene that she's in in GoF, or if they'll just
drop
> her part and have Harry discover the singing egg on his own. Any thought?
Or
> has anyone heard anything about this?

Well, considering Shirley Henderson (Moaning Myrtle) is 36 now, I doubt
she'll look that much different at 39. :)  So it shouldn't be a problem if
they're concerned with keeping the same actors.  Which in my opinion is very
important.

Richelle

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