[HPFGU-Movie] Re: dvd deleted scenes

[LeeMunLim03 at aol.com]

Well those are valid points but remember Jason had to ask himself why would 
Draco be so cruel!  Now I think Luciuis Malfoy is a very stern and almost 
arrogant person!  Jason did say the cane could of been a controlling factor 
for example beating his son!
Remember Kids grow up to be there parents!!

Kyle Longbottom  





In a message dated 4/12/03 8:53:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
CLShannon at aol.com writes:

> 
> In a message dated 4/12/03 5:16:42 PM, siskiou at earthlink.net writes:
> 
> <<Lucius is lovely in general, and I have no complaints about
> the actor's performance, just about some of the
> characterization choices.
> >>
> 
> I agree with this - I just reread the whole scene in the book and it is 
> decidedly different than the deleted scene we got on the DVD. I for one, am 
> 
> glad they didn't include it because it does change the original 
> characterization of the father-son dynamic. In the book, Lucious does tell 
> Draco to touch nothing, but there is not an indication that his voice or 
> manner are full of menace.  
> And there is no reply from Draco  of 'Yes father' with the trepidation 
> underlying the delivery, like we got in the deleted scene. He never replies 
> 
> at all like that in the book.
> 
> Draco then says, 'but I thought you were going to buy me a birthday 
> present.' 
> to which his father replies, 'I said I would buy you a racing broom', while 
> 
> drumming his fingers on the counter. Hardly the manner of someone who 
> causes 
> quakes of fear around his son, at least not here.  
> Then they go on with a lot more conversation about Harry, Hermione, etc.  
> Draco even whines a bit about Potter and only gets that one 'quelling' look 
> 
> from Lucious.  
> Lucious makes this statement, 'And I would remind you that is it not -- 
> prudent -- to appear less than fond of Harry Potter, not when most of our 
> kind regard him as the hero who made the Dark Lord disappear.' This to me 
> shows that Lucious is grooming and training Draco to follow him in his 
> footsteps, not beating him into submission. 
> 
> Also, during the talk they have, after Draco looks at the hand of glory and 
> 
> Lucious says he hopes his son will amount to more than a thief or a 
> plunderer, he goes on to say, 'though if his grades don't pick up, that may 
> 
> indeed all he is fit for.' 
> Draco responds to this with argument - 'it's not my fault, the teachers all 
> 
> have favorites...' He doesn't shake in his shoes here, he talks back. 
> 
> And later when Draco approaches the cabinet that Harry is in, Lucious 
> doesn't 
> swing his cane menacingly over and stop Draco's movement, he merely says, 
> 'Come, Draco.'
> 
> There is really nothing overt in that scene that shows a cruel, abusive 
> father.  A stern, demanding one, for sure, but one that also has hopes for 
> his son, however evil and demented they are. I never felt that Lucious was 
> disgusted with his son, but rather trying to sternly mold him into a proper 
> 
> dark wizard and molding his ideas to match  his own.
> I think the objection I have to the deleted scene and the reason I am glad 
> it 
> was not included is that it shows a false interpretation of the father-son 
> dynamic, if you compare it to the book. 
> Of course, we don't know what's coming in the books, so time will tell what 
> 
> the whole story is behind those two, if JKR intends to even get into that 
> part of it. Right now, it appears that the Malfoys serve as good villians 
> with no other motivations other than evil ones ;-)
> Perhaps she will redeem Draco and/or Lucious in some way in future books, I 
> 
> don't know. It's all up for grabs ;-)
> 
> The only other reason for the scene might have been to demonstrate that 
> Lucious does indeed have some dark arts objects in his house and it 
> confirms 
> that he is a dark wizard. It's a shame that doesn't get demonstrated in 
> some 
> other way, but if they had used this scene, it would have sacrificed the 
> characterization that JKR already set up in the books for the father-son 
> relationship.
> 
> 
> And finally, as for why the scene was deleted - probably mostly for time, 
> but 
> we never know if JKR might have had some input into that process, abeit 
> small 
> ;-)
> Cindy



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