From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jul  1 01:16:28 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:16:28 -0000
Subject: Casting Keira Knightly - Tonks?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030629120442.00bb75a8@mail.kriselda.net>
Message-ID: <bdqndc+mdnt@eGroups.com>

 Someone suggested Keira Knightly from Bend It Like Beckham as 
Tonks. I rather think, having just seen her play a beautiful rich-
bitch in The Hole with Thora Birch, that she'd be better as Fleur.
Just a thought 
Kirstini




From htfulcher at comcast.net  Tue Jul  1 12:00:37 2003
From: htfulcher at comcast.net (marephraim)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:00:37 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <24241156.1056857105208.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>
Message-ID: <bdrt55+9014@eGroups.com>

Richelle wrote:
 

> I also can't understand why Chris Columbus seems to be the only 
person who 
> seems to be discouraging the main kids from doing all the movies.  
I frankly 
> don't think it's any of his business, it's between them and their 
parents.
> 
> Richelle
> 

Personally, I've thought he discourages the idea because he's out as 
director and would like the series to fail and end. Consider, Couron 
is a racy choice for PoA (did anyone actually see the Mexican 
release of Y Tu Mama Tambien?) and if the movie fails it could 
potentially end the series. I say this because as good as CoS was, 
it was a poorly cut/edited movie with substandard sound (did you 
really think Dobby was crying loudly at Privet Drive?) and several 
scenes where the direction was obviously at fault in how the actors 
played the part (consider Wood's reaction to the match being 
cancelled -- underplayed?). I suspect that this had something to do 
with the change of directors. 

Now Columbus talks down the possibility of the series continuing 
after GoF. If PoA fails, no matter how good GoF turns out (and let's 
be real, if PoA fails there'll be less money in making GoF) it won't 
do as well and the 'magic' will seem to be over. On the other hand, 
if the man who must have some influence over the young actors keeps 
saying maybe they won't want to return perhaps they'll begin to 
prick at the idea themselves, and let's face it a Harry Potter movie 
without the Trio just won't work. If either of these two 
possibilites happen then Columbus goes down as the only one to make 
a success of Harry Potter in movies, versus if PoA is good and makes 
money then he is just one of two (or more?) directors who make 
movies. It will be the 'franchise' itself that is the thing, not the 
director.

M.E.




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Tue Jul  1 13:02:36 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:02:36 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bdrt55+9014@eGroups.com>
References: <24241156.1056857105208.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030701080059.02300048@mail.kriselda.net>

marephraim recently mentioned:

>Personally, I've thought he discourages the idea because he's out as
>director and would like the series to fail and end.

Except that, as I understand it, he's only out because he didn't want to 
direct the next one.  He wasn't fired, and there, at one point, had been 
talk that he might be back to direct GOF.  Whether he does direct any more 
or not, however, he's still a producer of the films, meaning that he's got 
a financial investment in keeping them profitable



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From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  1 13:18:52 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 13:18:52 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bdrt55+9014@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bds1ns+ctd6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "marephraim" <htfulcher at c...> 
wrote:
I say this because as good as CoS was, it was a poorly cut/edited 
movie with substandard sound (did you really think Dobby was crying 
loudly at Privet Drive?) and several scenes where the direction was 
obviously at fault in how the actors played the part (consider Wood's 
reaction to the match being cancelled -- underplayed?). I suspect 
that this had something to do with the change of directors.

Me: But it was Columbus who directed CoS, there was no change in 
directors until PoA, so the only person to blame (re direction) is 
him.

If PoA fails, no matter how good GoF turns out (and let's be real, if 
PoA fails there'll be less money in making GoF) it won't do as well 
and the 'magic' will seem to be over.

Me: I don't think PoA will fail to make money, in fact I think it's 
one of the better bks in the series (to date). I mean if any of the 
additional HP movies make 600 million its still a hit ? doing much 
better than many movies out there. 

On the other hand, if the man who must have some influence over the 
young actors keeps saying maybe they won't want to return perhaps 
they'll begin to prick at the idea themselves, and let's face it a 
Harry Potter movie without the Trio just won't work.

Me: I don't honestly believe that Columbus has that much influence 
over the kids, they may ask his opinion but I think it's their 
families who will help them decided if they will carry on (Dan has 
said he will be around for #4), CC was voicing his opinion when he 
stated that the kids should stop after #3 - I think he was also doing 
this b/c he wanted to let fans know that sometime down the line the 
cast may change & that we should be ready for it.

Fan





From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  1 17:33:33 2003
From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 17:33:33 -0000
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT:  The 2003 Pickled Toad Awards
Message-ID: <bdsgld+842c@eGroups.com>

The polls have closed and the fans have shown their will.  The 
winners of the first annual Pickled Toad awards for their categories 
are as follows.  There will be a new poll running until July 15th on 
OT Chatter including all the category winners to pick the Best Filk 
of the Year.

1.  Best filk of a song from a musical, or a showtune:
    "Dark Defense Tutorial", by Pippin

2.  Best filk of a song from a movie or television  
    soundtrack:
    "If you'd just Let Me Explain", by Pippin

3.  Best filk of a "Tin Pan Alley" song:
    "That's Why Ol' Snapey Is a Vamp", by Pippin

4.  Best filk of a Gilbert & Sullivan song:
    "I Am the Very Model Of an Anti-Hero Archetype", by Mariner

5.  Best filk of a song by the Beatles or an indivdual Beatle:
    "The Dobby Road Album", by Gail, Pippin and Lilac

6.  Best filk of a Rock & Roll song written before 1980:
    "Mr. Black, You Made a Fine Marauder" by Tann

7.  Best filk of a Rock & Roll song written 1980 or later:
    "Immaterial Girl", by CMC

8.  Best filk of a tune not known to the listener:
    TIE!
    "The Rat That Got Away", by CMC  and
    "Cruel, Cruel Incredulous Men", by Haggridd

9.  Best filk of a song nominated by its author, Author's choice:
    "The Ballad of Harry Potter", by Gail

10. Best filk, best choice of vehicle:
    TIE!
    "Azkaban", by CMC  and
    "Harry Potter and the Declaration Of Independence: Songs From the 
    Musical 1776", by Haggridd

11. Best filk of a Christmas song:
    "The Nativity Filks", by Melody and Pip

12. Best filk of a Disney song:
    Superbureaucraticmagicaladministration", by CMC

13. Best filk of a Tom lehrer song:
    "Torturing Muggles In the Dark", by Mariner

14. Best filk of a song that relates to HP fandom:
    TIE!
    "It's a Book", by Marina  and
    "Let's hold the Fanfic Off", by Pippin

15. Best dramatization of a scene from canon in a serious fashion:
    "Cedric Diggory Guy", by Stefan

16. Best dramatization of a scene from canon in a humorous fashion:
    TIE!
    "If You'd Just Let me Explain", by Pippin and
    "One More Handshake", by Mariner

Congratulations to all the category winners.  They will all be 
contacted shortly by e-mail to determine whether they will be at 
Nimbus 2003 to receive your Pickled Toad award in person, or, if not, 
how they wish to have their awards sent.

Please everybody vote for the best filk of the year on the new poll 
of all the category winners.  This poll will only run for two weeks, 
in order to have a Best Filk of the Year in time for Nimbus 2003.

Thank you all for your participation in making the Pickled toad 
awards a reality.

Haggridd 




From tmarends at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  1 16:36:01 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:36:01 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bds1ns+ctd6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bdsd9h+vhnt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
> 
> Me: I don't honestly believe that Columbus has that much influence 
> over the kids, they may ask his opinion but I think it's their 
> families who will help them decided if they will carry on (Dan has 
> said he will be around for #4), CC was voicing his opinion when he 
> stated that the kids should stop after #3 - I think he was also 
doing 
> this b/c he wanted to let fans know that sometime down the line the 
> cast may change & that we should be ready for it.
> 
> Fan

Or it could be that he's concerned about how fast they are growing up 
and how it's taking more than a year to film each new film.  PoA is 
taking 18 months to film?  How long will it take to film GoF and 
OoP??  By the time we get there, on film, Dan, Ruppert and Emma will 
be 17/18 playing 15/16.  Emma might be able to pull it off, but, by 
the rate Dan and Rupert are growing, the boys may not.  CC might be 
thinking that it would be better just to recast the whole lot of kids 
should it get to that point.

Tim





From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Tue Jul  1 18:44:50 2003
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:44:50 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting OoP
Message-ID: <v01540b00bb261fb25a2d@[217.154.254.88]>

For Dolores Umbridge, I have the perfect person in mind. Sadly, she's not
an actress, but she *is* a civil servant...in her case, no acting would be
required.

Okay, Prunella Scales would be good. And speaking of 'Mapp and Lucia', how
about Geraldine McEwan for Trelawney?

For Tonks, Emilia Fox, who played a similar-looking part in a brilliant
made-for-TV play called 'Shooting the Past', or Sharon Small, who is
currently Barbara Havers in the Inspector Lynley TV series, though she
might be a bit old.

Regards,
Nicholas





From WFeuchter at msn.com  Tue Jul  1 18:43:39 2003
From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:43:39 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bdsd9h+vhnt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bdskor+8gih@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <tmarends at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
> > 
> 
> Or it could be that he's concerned about how fast they are growing 
up 
> and how it's taking more than a year to film each new film.  PoA 
is 
> taking 18 months to film?  How long will it take to film GoF and 
> OoP??  By the time we get there, on film, Dan, Ruppert and Emma 
will 
> be 17/18 playing 15/16.  Emma might be able to pull it off, but, 
by 
> the rate Dan and Rupert are growing, the boys may not.  CC might 
be 
> thinking that it would be better just to recast the whole lot of 
kids 
> should it get to that point.
> 
> Tim

Well we should look at the numbers. Right now Dan is 13, he will be 
about 14 1/2 when POA is finished. They will most likely go right 
into GOF as pre-production is scheduled to start in November 2003. 
That would mean Dan is 14/15 during the filming of GOF. So the 
oldest he would be at the start of OOP would be 16. 

Neither Dan or Rubert strike me as the physical type who will look 
like a football player when they are 16. If they do then that might 
be a different story. But Rubert is already 15 and will be 16 this 
fall. We all ready know from OOP that Ron is going to be tall, and 
Harry is not far behind. So unless they physically mature early, and 
there is no sign of that yet, they should be able to play the parts 
until their late teens.

Bill





From siskiou at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  2 01:10:24 2003
From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:10:24 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bdskor+8gih@eGroups.com>
References: <bdskor+8gih@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <105165188709.20030701181024@earthlink.net>



Hi,

Tuesday, July 01, 2003, 11:43:39 AM, WFeuchter at msn.com wrote:

> Neither Dan or Rubert strike me as the physical type who will look 
> like a football player when they are 16. If they do then that might 
> be a different story. But Rubert is already 15 and will be 16 this 
> fall. We all ready know from OOP that Ron is going to be tall, and 
> Harry is not far behind. So unless they physically mature early, and 
> there is no sign of that yet, they should be able to play the parts 
> until their late teens.

DR turns 14 this month, right?
And I thought Rupert is 14 and turns 15 in August.

Am I completely wrong?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net

Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/




From WFeuchter at msn.com  Wed Jul  2 04:55:35 2003
From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 04:55:35 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <105165188709.20030701181024@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <bdtok7+ejnl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Susanne <siskiou at e...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> > 
> DR turns 14 this month, right?
> And I thought Rupert is 14 and turns 15 in August.
> 
> Am I completely wrong?

Dan is now 13, and will be 14 on the 23rd of July, I think, but you 
are correct Rubert is 14 and will be 15 this fall. Emma will be 14 
on the 15th of April 2004. Sorry about the mistake.

Bill

> 




From xvaldivia at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  2 17:39:16 2003
From: xvaldivia at yahoo.com (Ximena Valdivia)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 17:39:16 -0000
Subject: Who is direction GOF and others?
In-Reply-To: <bdskor+8gih@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bdv5c4+sch7@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "hpoldfan" <WFeuchter at m...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <tmarends at y...> wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
> > > 
> > 
> > Or it could be that he's concerned about how fast they are 
growing 
> up 
> > and how it's taking more than a year to film each new film.  PoA 
> is 
> > taking 18 months to film?  How long will it take to film GoF and 
> > OoP??  By the time we get there, on film, Dan, Ruppert and Emma 
> will 
> > be 17/18 playing 15/16.  Emma might be able to pull it off, but, 
> by 
> > the rate Dan and Rupert are growing, the boys may not.  CC might 
> be 
> > thinking that it would be better just to recast the whole lot of 
> kids 
> > should it get to that point.
> > 
> > Tim

I read and article where it stated the dates for releases of the 
upcoming films until OOP, it says:

POA: June 2004 
GoF: December 2005
OOP: June 2007

So if there is a change of cast (Which I hope not) it would be for 
OOP since they are taking a little of time off. I doubt that we are 
going to see a change for GoF considering that it seems that they are 
going to start shooting it right after POA







From twelvecabins at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  2 22:20:00 2003
From: twelvecabins at yahoo.com (Sara)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 621
In-Reply-To: <1056875358.366.29597.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030702222000.88761.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com>


--- HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com wrote:

>The actor most vividly conjured by Tonks was
>Charlotte Coleman (Scarlett from 'Four Weddings and
>a Funeral' just in case any are uncertain).  Sadly, 
>apart from the fact that she'd be too old if she was
>still with us, this casting is an impossibility.

She is exactly who I immediately imagined as Tonks.
She would have been perfect. Her death was so tragic,
and a loss for the acting world - I think she might
have gone on to great things.

Sara S.



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From odilefalaise at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  2 23:40:53 2003
From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: PoA : Trelawney Cast??
Message-ID: <20030702234053.93696.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com>

Over at the Leaky Cauldron site is a far-flung rumor
that Sybill Trelawney may have finally been cast.  I
did a search but came up with nothing (the reference
was to a picture in an Italian newspaper.)

Anyway, the actress in question is: Tilda Swinton?! 

I'm not so sure about this... in my view, Tilda
Swinton is elegant ("Orlando") and intense ("The
Beach" & "The Deep End"). I adore her, but I just
don't see her as Trelawney, but that's just my
knee-jerk reaction, and what do I know?  ^_^

OTOH, I think she would be marvelous in an HP film. 
If not as Trelawney, I wonder if they could/would use
her in another role?

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Odile



From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul  3 00:33:19 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:33:19 -0000
Subject: PoA : Trelawney Cast??
In-Reply-To: <20030702234053.93696.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bdvtkf+emcn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Odile Falaise <odilefalaise at y...> 
wrote:
> Over at the Leaky Cauldron site is a far-flung rumor
> that Sybill Trelawney may have finally been cast.  I
> did a search but came up with nothing (the reference
> was to a picture in an Italian newspaper.)
> 
> Anyway, the actress in question is: Tilda Swinton?! 
> 
> I'm not so sure about this... in my view, Tilda
> Swinton is elegant ("Orlando") and intense ("The
> Beach" & "The Deep End"). I adore her, but I just
> don't see her as Trelawney, but that's just my
> knee-jerk reaction, and what do I know?  ^_^
> 
> OTOH, I think she would be marvelous in an HP film. 
> If not as Trelawney, I wonder if they could/would use
> her in another role?
> 
> Anyone else care to weigh in?
> 
> Odile

I'm not familiar with her work but I've seen her name in movie 
reviews (sorry, I don't get to see many movies first-run). Anyway 
here's a photo of Tilda Swinton:

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Swinton,+Tilda

Who knows, maybe she can play dreamy and goofy, with a pair of big 
glasses?

Anne U
(wishing the U.S. Potterphiles Happy 4th of July two days early)





From HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com  Thu Jul  3 04:02:17 2003
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 3 Jul 2003 04:02:17 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Nimbus - 2003 
Message-ID: <1057204937.21.98073.m11@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Nimbus - 2003 

Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 
Time: All Day

Nimbus - 2003, the first international Harry Potter event,
begins at the Swan Hotel in Orlando, Florida (more info at
http://www.hp2003.org) 

 





From tcinc at centurytel.net  Thu Jul  3 04:31:23 2003
From: tcinc at centurytel.net (xnavyguy73)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 04:31:23 -0000
Subject: CoS Book And Movie Question about the Shop in Knockturn Alley
Message-ID: <be0bir+d5di@eGroups.com>


> I read The Chamber of Secrets again just after watching the movie,
(on 
> DVD) and have noticed somthing I was wondering if anyone can help 
me 
> out with...  I was watching the deleted scenes and noticed the 
scene 
> where Draco and his father go to the shop on Knockturn Alley, and 
was 
> wondering what item shocked Mr. Borgin, so much, and that prompted 
> Mr.Malfoy to say "that Particular item, is not for sale."??  I have 
> thought about this and can't really place any item that I have seen 
> in the books.  Or have i just missed somthing.  Any help is 
> appreciated







From odilefalaise at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 11:57:00 2003
From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 04:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] CoS Book And Movie Question about the Shop in Knockturn Alley
In-Reply-To: <be0bir+d5di@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030703115700.49845.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com>

xnavyguy wrote:
<<<I read The Chamber of Secrets again just after
watching the movie,(on DVD) and have noticed somthing
I was wondering if anyone can help me out with... I
was watching the deleted scenes and noticed the scene
where Draco and his father go to the shop on Knockturn
Alley, and was wondering what item shocked Mr. Borgin,
so much, and that prompted Mr.Malfoy to say "that
Particular item, is not for sale."?? I have thought
about this and can't really place any item that I have
seen in the books. Or have i just missed somthing.
Any help is appreciated>>>

Odile (me):
I do believe that the item in question is Tom Riddle's
diary, which Mr. Malfoy later slipped into Ginny's
cauldron.  Mr. Borgin's surprise at seeing it assumes,
however, that he knows to connect Tom Riddle with
Voldemort.  ^_^




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 13:24:00 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:24:00 -0000
Subject: According to TLC...
Message-ID: <be1apg+793b@eGroups.com>

(thru the Sidney Talent Company) that Martin Landham will play the 
part of Ludo Bagman in GoF - now my questions.

1. I thought all MAJOR actors had to be British
2. They're already casting for GoF - is this a somewhat round-about 
confirmation that all the current cast will be in the film? 

Thanks TLC for the info

Just wondering.....

Fan




From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 16:06:50 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:06:50 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned.. 
In-Reply-To: <be1apg+793b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be1kaq+qobh@eGroups.com>

Very interesting information wrt. Ludo Bagman - 

The other STC info on their website seems to be accurate but v. odd 
that casting for GoF would begin this early unless... the young cast 
are REALLY growing fast and they have to shoot the fourth film 
straight after PoA. 

If this is confirmed (Martin Landham), then guess that the rule for 
casting is (sorry).. anyone but an American (though to be fair, 
Australians ARE her (English) majesty's loyal subjects.

Anyhow, here are links to photos of various people - utterly biased 
as chosen by me:

LUDO BAGMAN
Martin Landham (? Bagman-to-be??)
http://web.auwebcenters.com/sydneytalent/filecabinet/html/starnews.ht
ml

Mark Addy (my choice)
http://www.foxsearchlight.com/fullmonty/images/dave_ani.gif

SYBILL TRELAWNEY
I think that Tilda Swinton would be a really good addition to the 
cast - she can act the trousers off anyone (well, she did 
in "Orlando") and she looks the part. For those having difficulties 
envisaging her as Trelawney, try this photo taken awhile ago - (add 
a few wrinkles)

Tilda Swinton (?awaiting confirmation)
http://www.prisma-online.de/image/b1/mm00bc63cded6f79b1.jpeg

PROFESSOR UMBRIDGE 

Madga Szubanski - my choice
I mentioned her earlier and was lucky enough to see this photo where 
she plays a character partial to pink cardigans, with an irritating 
high voice (note also - the pink BOW!)

http://www.jeffmajor.com/croc/special/movie1/szubanski.jpg

Patsy Byrne - would be good too (if she's not too old)

NARCISSA MALFOY
My choice (in order to get the cast of "Blackadder", 
nevermind "Gosford Park" in the films)

Miranda Richardson
http://www.themakeupgallery.info/period/c16/bamr1.jpg

Alternatively, though I agree with others that Kristen Scott-Thomas 
would be good, I do feel that she is too sterotyped in frosty 
aristo. roles - what about ... (see below) Joely Richardson (less 
well-known);I think that she would be great in her cameo with Jason 
Isaacs and Tom Felton - one happy (v. blonde) Malfoy family!

Joely Richardson 
http://www.dacre.org/stills/webr/Ricf291.jpg

Joanna Lumsley, though fabulous, is a *little* too old (IMO) to play 
Narcissa however, I would be absolutely thrilled if old Lucius' 
mother rocked up somewhere in book 6 or 7 as I'm sure that Joanna 
would make a great Malfoy somewhere down the line.

TONKS
Sorry, in retrospect - just don't envisage either Keira Knightly or 
Kate Beckinsdale as TONKS...too willowly and what-not.Charlotte 
Coleman *was* Tonks in "Four Weddings & A Funeral" but alas, is not 
amongst us so ...what about Julia Sawalha (from numerous BBC series 
as well as "Absolutely Fabulous"?

Julia Sawalha
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/760000/images/_760808_sawalha300.jpg

Couldn't really find any photos of David Thewlis that would fit my 
idea of Lupin (though he was great IMO in "Naked" and disturbing 
in "Total Eclipse", would avoid both of the above until PoA comes 
out).

FINALLY - I don't *usually* like pouring oil on a flame however, 
whilst reading OOTP (and still envisaging a Dougray Scott type 
Sirius), I found it rather more difficult than previously to 
envisage Gary Oldman as our favorite Black family member. I whizzed 
through the google search engine and found a few piccys that set my 
mind a *bit* more at ease - 

SIRIUS BLACK
young oldman (ie: imagine Bestman at James' & Lily's wedding Sirius)
http://gameover.sapo.pt/gfx/155322.gif

grungy oldman (?? blasting Peter Pettigrew off the planet sirius)
http://www.dacre.org/stills/webo/Oldf383.jpg

swashbuckling (Rosengranz) oldman (? motobike sirius)
http://www.thethirdrail.com/ratbastard/rosen.jpg

Desperate oldman (ie: as I imagine him in PoA) 
http://www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/castingcall/pics/oldman.jpg

For the sake of maintaining the board's sanity, I respectfully 
suggest that the words "Gary Oldman" and "5th Element", "Dracula" 
are not mentioned in the same sentence.

I'd love to see Dame Judi Dench in the film as well as Stephen Fry 
but think that Professor Grubblyplanks would not be a large enough 
part for Dame Judi - Neville's grandmother perhaps?I still can't 
think of anyone who'd be a reasonable Bellatrix, though for some odd 
reason, this old publicity photo of the gothic writer, Anne Rice, 
captures the essence of Bellattrix (but without the heavy-lidded 
eyes), perfectly - 
Anne Rice (obviously out of the running 'cause she's an American 
writer and not an actor etc. etc..)
http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/rice_a.jpg

Over to the rest of you!

Sara




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 16:49:06 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:49:06 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <be1kaq+qobh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be1mq2+hk6f@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Sara_ELL" <sara1412au at y...> 
wrote:
> Very interesting information wrt. Ludo Bagman - 
> 
> The other STC info on their website seems to be accurate but v. odd 
> that casting for GoF would begin this early unless... the young 
cast 
> are REALLY growing fast and they have to shoot the fourth film 
> straight after PoA. 
> 
> If this is confirmed (Martin Landham), then guess that the rule for 
> casting is (sorry).. anyone but an American (though to be fair, 
> Australians ARE her (English) majesty's loyal subjects.
> 
Me: Some great ideas there.

Now according to CBBC Newsround (rather quickly) 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_3042000/3042498.stm
Tilda Swinton will NOT BE in PoA (according to insiders) & that 
casting for GoF seems highly unlikely at this present time.




From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 22:33:43 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 22:33:43 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <be1mq2+hk6f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be2b07+scsc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
<harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
 
> Now according to CBBC Newsround (rather quickly) 
> 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_3042000/3042498.stm
> Tilda Swinton will NOT BE in PoA (according to insiders) & that 
> casting for GoF seems highly unlikely at this present time.

Me:
Wow! That was fast - someone out there clearly reads TLC... better 
for us then: Casting call widely open for 
SYBILL TRELAWNEY
How about Jennifer Saunders (from Ab Fab)though I think that she'd 
still be great as Rita Skeeter

http://homepages.nat.fr/~jorionpi/images/Edina.jpg

While I'm on a roll - can anyone suggest a part for Jane Horrocks 
(also from Ab Fab and "Little voice")?

Sara





From xvaldivia at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 22:41:07 2003
From: xvaldivia at yahoo.com (Ximena Valdivia)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 22:41:07 -0000
Subject: Could fans accept a new cast?
Message-ID: <be2be3+4vlf@eGroups.com>

I was wondering about it for a long time and for instance my answer 
is like no! But that is because I'm a big Harry Potter fan, so I 
though it was sort of obvious that I was used to the trio and didn't 
want them to leave but then, last monday something happened. I 
finally manage after a year and a half to convince my big brother 
(he is 23) to see HP & SS. He saw it with his girlfriend, after that 
they spend the next 48 hours asking 400 questions about it (they 
have never read the books) then yesterday they saw HP & CoS and once 
again with the questions. Today at lunch time, they were asking me 
when the third movie was coming and while I was telling them the 
dates and that probably that one or GoF is the last one the trio is 
going to make, they saw in such a way like if I just told them that 
Xmas was cancelled, and they began to tell me all the reason why 
they (the trio) should not stop doing the movies and all those 
reason I know, but I let them talk. So, what do you think? do you 
think all of the rest of the people that watch HP will react the 
same way?...well not the same way but you got my point.

Ximena




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  3 23:24:39 2003
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Jane Horrocks // Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <be2b07+scsc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030703232439.89743.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>

Sara:
> Casting call widely open for SYBILL TRELAWNEY
> How about Jennifer Saunders (from Ab Fab)
> though I think that she'd still be great as
> Rita Skeeter
> 
> http://homepages.nat.fr/~jorionpi/images/Edina.jpg
> 
> While I'm on a roll - can anyone suggest a part
> for Jane Horrocks (also from Ab Fab and "Little
> voice")?

Hmm...Jane Horrocks could be an interesting choice 
as Tonks.  She also plays much younger than her 
actual age...dare I suggest Luna?

As for Trelawney, Shelley Duvall sometimes guest 
stars as her in the HP-movie-in-my-head...too bad 
she's Texas-born.

Petra
a
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From Audra1976 at aol.com  Fri Jul  4 10:35:12 2003
From: Audra1976 at aol.com (Audra1976 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:35:12 EDT
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers)
Message-ID: <9.14cd09b7.2c36b260@aol.com>

Sara_ELL" <sara1412au at yahoo.com> writes:

> I don't *usually* like pouring oil on a flame however, 
> whilst reading OOTP (and still envisaging a Dougray Scott type 
> Sirius), I found it rather more difficult than previously to 
> envisage Gary Oldman as our favorite Black family member. I whizzed 
> through the google search engine and found a few piccys that set my 
> mind a *bit* more at ease - 

Weirdly, I was having the same problem when reading OotP, but I'm still a 
huge proponent of Gary Oldman.  I have no doubts about him being a brilliant 
Sirius in the films.  Also, having loved Gary Oldman for almost as long as I've 
loved Alan Rickman, I'm dying to see them play against each other in the 
Shrieking Shack scene.

Dougray Scott (by the way, is that pronounced Doo-gray or Dug-ray?) ...Yes, I 
saw him as the standard British bad guy in Mission Impossible 2  (and I 
definitely preferred looking at him to Tom Cruise), and then later figured out he 
was the prince in "Ever After," so he's got that bad guy/good guy verasatility 
needed to play Sirius, and he's a beautiful, beautiful man, but actually TOO 
beautiful.  

The thing I find so endearing about the male HP actors that have been cast is 
that they are all attractive to me in a kind of quirky, non-traditional way, 
and it's really all about presence and attitude, and great acting ability.  
Alan Rickman exemplifies this, of course, but also David Thewlis, Gary Oldman, 
even Mark Williams (Arthur), and Dan and Rupert too.  I can't tell you how much 
I am looking forward to the PoA movie with the cast they have chosen.

-Audra-


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From eric at toastpoint.com  Fri Jul  4 12:46:15 2003
From: eric at toastpoint.com (Eric Peterson)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 08:46:15 -0400
Subject: Trelawney/Skeeter
Message-ID: <3F057717.7080204@nyc.rr.com>

SARA_ELL suggested 

"SYBILL TRELAWNEY
How about Jennifer Saunders (from Ab Fab)though I think that she'd 
still be great as Rita Skeeter"
---

I've been maintaining for years that the AbFab women (Saunders and Joanna Lumley) should be Trelawney and Skeeter.  (Or vice-versa would work too).  I don't see Julia Sawalha as Tonks - but if we ever have a forward-flash to an adult Hermione, she'd be perfect.

Patrick Stewart for Moody. 

Sara also suggested Miranda Richardson for Narcissa, which is perfect, except we haven't seen Narcissa DO anything yet of interest.  

 - Eric






From sarah_harbuck at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  4 14:15:11 2003
From: sarah_harbuck at yahoo.com (Sarah)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:15:11 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <be1mq2+hk6f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be425f+qglf@eGroups.com>

>If this is confirmed (Martin Landham), then guess that the rule for 
> casting is (sorry).. anyone but an American (though to be fair, 
> Australians ARE her (English) majesty's loyal subjects.


ME: Question...why won't they let Americans play any of the roles in 
the movies?  I'm curious.  I've heard this before about the cast 
being all British, but never heard the reasoning behind it.  I'd 
appreciate it if anyone can clear this up for me!  Thanks,

Sarah in TX




From DaveH47 at mindspring.com  Fri Jul  4 16:01:24 2003
From: DaveH47 at mindspring.com (Dave Hardenbrook)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:01:24 -0700
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <1057309050.417.37900.m12@yahoogroups.com>
References: <1057309050.417.37900.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <7857300626.20030704090124@mindspring.com>


Friday, July 4, 2003, 1:57:30 AM, Sara wrote:

HMyc> While I'm on a roll - can anyone suggest a part for Jane Horrocks 
HMyc> (also from Ab Fab and "Little voice")?

As a long time JH fan, I'm *very* tempted to suggest *her* for Tonks...
Execept she's pushing 40 (though she doesn't look it) as it is; and
by the time that actually get to _Order_...

Since she sings, how about Jane as one of the Weird Sisters...?
(I'll save my thoughts on future HP movie music for another
 post...) :)

Going back to Tonks, I'm also tempted to suggest Rana Haugen ( anything
to definitely establish a Tonks - Jellia Jamb connection :) ), but
she's not British, and again, she's rapidly reaching the point where
she'd be too old...

(Damn, I wish I knew more twenty-something British actresses...)

-- 
Dave




From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul  4 16:33:01 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:33:01 -0000
Subject: Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <20030703232439.89743.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <be4a7t+ldv8@eGroups.com>

As I understood it from reading various sites about a week ago, Emma 
Chambers had been cast as Trelawny. I found a picture of her:

http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/vicarofdibley/images/0102vica.
jpg

Of course, now I can't find any confirmation whatsoever...
Kirstini




From origamiwizard at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  4 16:54:40 2003
From: origamiwizard at yahoo.com (origamiwizard)
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:54:40 -0000
Subject: Dan/Harry's voice (was Re: OOP: References to Spoilers). 
In-Reply-To: <001701c33a00$4c357a50$80a1cdd1@RVotaw>
Message-ID: <be4bgg+r4lb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
>> 
> As for Daniel Radcliffe, I have no doubt in my mind that he can 
handle OoP
> Harry just fine.  Have you actually watched SS/PS and CoS back to 
back?
> It's like daylight and dark.  I had never noticed how lines, 
expressions,
> etc in SS/PS were forced until I saw CoS.  He has and continues to 
improve
> himself, and shoudl he choose to do so he will make a fine OoP 
Harry.  No
> question about it, in my book.  The only question I have is whether 
or not
> he'll want to continue rather than go on with schooling or whatever.
> 
> Oh, one interesting thing happened as I began rereading OoP. For 
the first
> time, while reading HP, Daniel Radcliffe's voice popped in my head 
for
> Harry.  Never happened before.
> 
> Richelle

Sorry, I'm late in my reply, I know.  

The same thing happened to me, as I read OotP!  I was taken aback a 
bit when I realized that I was hearing Dan's voice as I read OotP.  
That has never happened before for me too--and I was excited to 
realize how easily I heard Dan's voice throughout all of the angst 
and turmoil that Harry goes through in OotP.

So that said, I am looking forward to seeing Dan do OotP (if he so 
chooses). Harry AND Dan will be growing up throughout the series--a 
very unique and intriguing situation to read in the books and watch 
on the screen. Dan would be more than brilliant as OotP Harry!




From bard7696 at aol.com  Sat Jul  5 05:09:02 2003
From: bard7696 at aol.com (darrin_burnett)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 05:09:02 -0000
Subject: The Perfect Fleur
Message-ID: <be5mhe+4sqe@eGroups.com>

Rosamund Pike, the bad girl from Die Another Day, is my choice to play Fleur.

She is only 22, so she could play the younger person effectively. She is also 
one of the most beautiful women ever to walk the planet Earth.

Darrin
-- Why is it that the bad girls are always hotter in the Bond movies?




From madzilla665 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  5 04:33:04 2003
From: madzilla665 at yahoo.co.uk (Madeleine)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:33:04 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <9.14cd09b7.2c36b260@aol.com>
Message-ID: <be5ke0+qh46@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Audra1976 at a... wrote:
> Sara_ELL" <sara1412au at y...> writes:
> 
> > I don't *usually* like pouring oil on a flame however, 
> > whilst reading OOTP (and still envisaging a Dougray Scott type 
> > Sirius), I found it rather more difficult than previously to 
> > envisage Gary Oldman as our favorite Black family member. I 
whizzed 
> > through the google search engine and found a few piccys that set 
my 
> > mind a *bit* more at ease - 
> 
> Weirdly, I was having the same problem when reading OotP, but I'm 
still a 
> huge proponent of Gary Oldman.  I have no doubts about him being a 
brilliant 
> Sirius in the films.  Also, having loved Gary Oldman for almost as 
long as I've 
> loved Alan Rickman, I'm dying to see them play against each other 
in the 
> Shrieking Shack scene.
> 
> Dougray Scott (by the way, is that pronounced Doo-gray or Dug-
ray?) ...Yes, I 
> saw him as the standard British bad guy in Mission Impossible 2  
(and I 
> definitely preferred looking at him to Tom Cruise), and then later 
figured out he 
> was the prince in "Ever After," so he's got that bad guy/good guy 
verasatility 
> needed to play Sirius, and he's a beautiful, beautiful man, but 
actually TOO 
> beautiful.  
> 
> The thing I find so endearing about the male HP actors that have 
been cast is 
> that they are all attractive to me in a kind of quirky, non-
traditional way, 
> and it's really all about presence and attitude, and great acting 
ability.  
> Alan Rickman exemplifies this, of course, but also David Thewlis, 
Gary Oldman, 
> even Mark Williams (Arthur), and Dan and Rupert too.  I can't tell 
you how much 
> I am looking forward to the PoA movie with the cast they have 
chosen.
> 
> -Audra-
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



I agree with what you said about Dougray Scott, he's good looking in 
the wrong sort of way...
And I was a bit anxious about the casting of Gary Oldman at first, 
not being familiar with his work, but a bit of research and I'm much 
more convinced. He seems so versatile - he looks like a different 
person in every picture. I'm confident he'll be a great Sirius.
And yes, I can't wait for the Shrieking Shack scenes either. :)
Oh, and also, just looked at some other pics of David Thewlis - I 
think he's going to be good as Lupin - what do you all think?

Madzilla x




From madzilla665 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul  5 04:48:07 2003
From: madzilla665 at yahoo.co.uk (Madeleine)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:48:07 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <be1kaq+qobh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be5la7+20ic@eGroups.com>

Hi, sorry, I know I just posted but I hadn't spotted this earlier-
posted picture yet:

<grungy oldman (?? blasting Peter Pettigrew off the planet sirius)
http://www.dacre.org/stills/webo/Oldf383.jpg>

Good grief! That's EXACTLY how I always imagined Sirius! And there 
was me wondering why they'd chosen Gary Oldman...

Madzilla -x-




From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  5 13:38:11 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:38:11 -0000
Subject: Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <be4a7t+ldv8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be6kc3+5s55@eGroups.com>

kirstini wrote:
> As I understood it from reading various sites about a week ago, 
Emma Chambers had been cast as Trelawny. <

Sorry - I think that it's (another)false casting rumour (see this:
http://www.catchthesnitch.com/news/12/). 

Now, *if* I were the suspicious and cynical type, I'd almost be 
thinking that it was a bit odd that they still hadn't cast the part 
this late in the filming (well, they've started - haven't they?) of 
PoA. Since all of these Trelawney rumours have started since OOP was 
released, I just wonder whether there's been a last minute change in 
order to "un-edit" her from the film. But I'm not that malicious. 
*Honestly*!

Sara





From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Sat Jul  5 16:02:56 2003
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 17:02:56 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers)
Message-ID: <v01540b00bb2ca69bc86f@[217.154.250.246]>

Hey all,

I had a long conversation about casting with a work colleague. She reckons
Matthew Macfadyen (sp?) should have been cast as Sirius. He's certainly
tall and dark, and she assures me that he has the sex-appeal thing 'in
bucketfuls'. Check him out; he's currently starring in 'Spooks' on TV, and
I believe he also had a role in the movie 'Enigma' with Kate Winslet and
Dougray Scott.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From xvaldivia at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  5 16:13:18 2003
From: xvaldivia at yahoo.com (Ximena Valdivia)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:13:18 -0000
Subject: The Perfect Fleur
In-Reply-To: <be5mhe+4sqe@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be6teu+jho9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "darrin_burnett" <bard7696 at a...> 
wrote:
> Rosamund Pike, the bad girl from Die Another Day, is my choice to 
play Fleur.
> 
> She is only 22, so she could play the younger person effectively. 
She is also 
> one of the most beautiful women ever to walk the planet Earth.
> 
> Darrin
> -- Why is it that the bad girls are always hotter in the Bond 
movies?

She's 24 and by the time she need to play Fleur, she will be 25.
I have someone in my head but as much as I want ot remember her name, 
I can't!! it's so frustrating.

Ximena 




From aimking0110 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  5 20:15:45 2003
From: aimking0110 at yahoo.com (Garrett)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:15:45 -0000
Subject: OoP: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <v01540b00bb261fb25a2d@[217.154.254.88]>
Message-ID: <be7blh+gr28@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, nicholas at a... wrote:
> For Dolores Umbridge, I have the perfect person in mind. Sadly, 
she's not
> an actress, but she *is* a civil servant...in her case, no acting 
would be
> required.
> 
> Okay, Prunella Scales would be good. And speaking of 'Mapp and 
Lucia', how
> about Geraldine McEwan for Trelawney?
> 
> For Tonks, Emilia Fox, who played a similar-looking part in a 
brilliant
> made-for-TV play called 'Shooting the Past', or Sharon Small, who is
> currently Barbara Havers in the Inspector Lynley TV series, though 
she
> might be a bit old.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicholas

I think That a good Umbridge Would be the Actress who play's hyacenth 
on keeping up aperances, Luna, what about that girl in Billy 
Maduison, who played his "girl friend" and what about hugh grant for 
kingsley ?

just a thought,
Garrett




From WFeuchter at msn.com  Sat Jul  5 20:54:50 2003
From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:54:50 -0000
Subject: Can Dan Handle the OOTP Harry?
Message-ID: <be7duq+5v1s@eGroups.com>

I think we will get to see just how well Dan can handle anger in 
POA. 

We seem to have forgotten the rage Harry had with Aunt Marge, 
the rage he had against Snape after the run-in with Draco at the 
Shreiking Shack, and finally the almost homicidal rage at Black when 
they first met in the Shreiking Shack.

Hopefully those scenes will be in the movie.

Bill





From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sun Jul  6 06:04:08 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:04:08 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <be6kc3+5s55@eGroups.com>
References: <be4a7t+ldv8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030706010304.00b6ff58@mail.kriselda.net>

Sara_ELL recently mentioned:

>kirstini wrote:
> > As I understood it from reading various sites about a week ago,
>Emma Chambers had been cast as Trelawny. <
>
>Sorry - I think that it's (another)false casting rumour (see this:
>http://www.catchthesnitch.com/news/12/).
>
>Now, *if* I were the suspicious and cynical type, I'd almost be
>thinking that it was a bit odd that they still hadn't cast the part
>this late in the filming (well, they've started - haven't they?) of
>PoA. Since all of these Trelawney rumours have started since OOP was
>released, I just wonder whether there's been a last minute change in
>order to "un-edit" her from the film. But I'm not that malicious.
>*Honestly*!


That shouldn't be the case, though, since JKR would have known when she 
first wrote about Trelawney's "Second" correct prediction that the 
character would need to be established so that there would be the 
appropriate impact when we find out what her first correct prediction is.



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From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sun Jul  6 06:05:34 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 01:05:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <be7blh+gr28@eGroups.com>
References: <v01540b00bb261fb25a2d@[217.154.254.88]>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030706010459.01dc3d40@mail.kriselda.net>

Garrett recently mentioned:

>I think That a good Umbridge Would be the Actress who play's hyacenth
>on keeping up aperances, Luna, what about that girl in Billy
>Maduison, who played his "girl friend" and what about hugh grant for
>kingsley ?

Unless I misread something, I thought Kingsley was black.....


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From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  6 11:19:34 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 11:19:34 -0000
Subject: OoP: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <be7blh+gr28@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <be90k6+5fj8@eGroups.com>

I'm more and more convinced about the appropriateness of Patricia 
Routledge (see below) as Umbridge
http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10052000/10052418.jpg

Sara (currently suffering from an annoying bout of linkitis and 
really, really getting impatient waiting for a photo of David 
Thewlis as her favorite Hogwarts teacher) 




From paulined at optushome.com.au  Sun Jul  6 12:24:56 2003
From: paulined at optushome.com.au (Pauline)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 22:24:56 +1000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <be90k6+5fj8@eGroups.com>
References: <be7blh+gr28@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030706222456.014b1880@10.0.0.3>

>    I'm more and more convinced about the appropriateness of Patricia 
> Routledge (see below) as Umbridge
> http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10052000/10052418.jpg
> 
> Sara 

She is a brilliant actress, and her characterisation of Hyacinth is spot
on, though I feel she is far too tall to be Umbridge.  My 11yo said she is
also too "human-like"  ;)

Hmmm, we need someone shorter, a bit wider and who doesn't like kids....
what a shame Miriam Margoyles is taken.


       Love
     (`'?.?(`'?.? ?.?'?)?.?'?)
   ???`?..*   Pauline  *..???`?
      (?.?'(?.?'? `'?.?)`'?.?)





From Audra1976 at aol.com  Sun Jul  6 12:24:21 2003
From: Audra1976 at aol.com (Audra1976 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:24:21 EDT
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
Message-ID: <17d.1d953532.2c396ef5@aol.com>

Madeleine" <madzilla665 at yahoo.co.uk>

<< Hi, sorry, I know I just posted but I hadn't spotted this earlier-
posted picture yet:<grungy oldman (?? blasting Peter Pettigrew off the planet 
sirius)
http://www.dacre.org/stills/webo/Oldf383.jpg>Good grief! That's EXACTLY how I 
always imagined Sirius! And there was me wondering why they'd chosen Gary 
Oldman... >>

And I meant to post a link to this picture, and I think I forgot.  This is my 
favorite picture of Gary Oldman for Sirius, and you'll laugh when you see 
why.  I can't remember where I got it, so I just uploaded it to my webspace:

http://www.geocities.com/audrahammer/innocent.jpg

Also, when are there going to actually be pictures anywhere of Oldman as 
Sirius and Thewlis as Lupin from the PoA movie?  They have to be up to filming 
them already, don't they?

-Audra-



From CariadMel at aol.com  Sun Jul  6 15:07:43 2003
From: CariadMel at aol.com (Annette)
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:07:43 -0000
Subject: OoP: Casting OoP/any HP movie
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030706222456.014b1880@10.0.0.3>
Message-ID: <be9dvv+k9gn@eGroups.com>


I can't think of an appropriate role for them but there must be parts 
in Harry Potter movies for my 2 fav. Welsh actors, Rhys Ifans and 
Ioan Gruffydd (Notting Hill/ Hornblower respectively)
They'd make excellent additions to a Brat pack of Death Eaters , 
maybe.

Narcissa.
********************
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Pauline <paulined at o...> wrote:
> >    I'm more and more convinced about the appropriateness of 
Patricia 
> > Routledge (see below) as Umbridge
> > 
http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10052000/10052418.jpg
> > 
> > Sara 
> 
> She is a brilliant actress, and her characterisation of Hyacinth is 
spot
> on, though I feel she is far too tall to be Umbridge.  My 11yo said 
she is
> also too "human-like"  ;)
> 
> Hmmm, we need someone shorter, a bit wider and who doesn't like 
kids....
> what a shame Miriam Margoyles is taken.
> 
> 
>        Love
>      (`'?.?(`'?.? ?.?'?)?.?'?)
>    ???`?..*   Pauline  *..???`?
>       (?.?'(?.?'? `'?.?)`'?.?)




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Jul  6 18:06:50 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:06:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
References: <17d.1d953532.2c396ef5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <012d01c343e9$60704fc0$ae9ccdd1@RVotaw>

Audra wrote:

> Also, when are there going to actually be pictures anywhere of Oldman as 
> Sirius and Thewlis as Lupin from the PoA movie?  They have to be up to filming 
> them already, don't they?

They've definitely been filming.  Definitely.  One of the first things they did was the wanted posters with Gary Oldman.  And they started on the Boggart lesson scenes with Thewlis right after Privet Drive stuff.  I'm just dying to see how they look as Sirius & Lupin, what's taking so long for publicity pictures?  Wouldn't hurt to let us have just a few, would it? If we say please? :)

Richelle


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From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 06:42:59 2003
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 06:42:59 -0000
Subject: (longish) Casting the film (incl OOP - ie some spoilers) was : TLC mentioned..
In-Reply-To: <be1kaq+qobh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <beb4pj+r6td@eGroups.com>

> Over to the rest of you!
> 
> Sara

 Excellent casting choices!!! I think Angelica Huston would be 
perfect as Bellatrix....I keep thinking about her performance in 
Ever After.

 More coming later ;-)

 --daughter @)---/----




From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul  7 13:20:50 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:20:50 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] casting OoP
Message-ID: <76.2f7afd11.2c3acdb2@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/6/2003 4:50:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> what about hugh grant for 
> kingsley ?
> 
> 

erm. . .Kingsley Shakelford is described as a tall, bald black man with a 
single gold hoop earring.  I don't see Hugh Grant managing to play that no matter 
how hard he tried.  ;->


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul  7 13:23:39 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:23:39 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] can Dan handle the OoP Harry?
Message-ID: <1e8.c8fdea5.2c3ace5b@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/6/2003 4:50:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> 
> I think we will get to see just how well Dan can handle anger in 
> POA. 
> 
> We seem to have forgotten the rage Harry had with Aunt Marge, 
> the rage he had against Snape after the run-in with Draco at the 
> Shreiking Shack, and finally the almost homicidal rage at Black when 
> they first met in the Shreiking Shack.
> 
> Hopefully those scenes will be in the movie.
> 
> Bill
> 
the Aunt Marge scene has already been filmed, so that's in there.  They have 
to include the Shrieking Shack scene, it's too pivotal to the plot to cut, 
IMO.  The one with Snape seems awfully important too, but we'll have to see.

As for whether Trelawney was cut and then added back to the film -- I don't 
understand all these casting rumors.  The film started shooting in FEBRUARY, it 
should be about finished by now!  Even Terminator 3 took "only" 5 months to 
shoot.  Whoever's in the film should already be cast and working, or finished 
with work.  And I can't see JKR allowing them to cut Trelawney from the film, 
as pivotal as she is the the ongoing story.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From glorificus21 at bigpond.com  Mon Jul  7 13:24:23 2003
From: glorificus21 at bigpond.com (glory)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:24:23 +1000
Subject: Kingsley (was re: casting OoP)
References: <76.2f7afd11.2c3acdb2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001201c3448b$1aed2d40$24c18b90@fickwalker>

Lynda said:

erm. . .Kingsley Shakelford is described as a tall, bald black man with a 
single gold hoop earring.  I don't see Hugh Grant managing to play that no matter 
how hard he tried.  ;->




Now me:

Now I know this would never happen, but throughout reading OotP whenever Kingsley was mentioned, I saw D.B. Woodside, who played Principal Wood in the last season of Buffy. I know this is fairly unrealistic but that's just the image that kept popping into my head ... 

*slinks back to lurker-dom*


Glory
xox


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From iluvmax666 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 18:01:11 2003
From: iluvmax666 at yahoo.com (jules)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:01:11 -0000
Subject: Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030706010304.00b6ff58@mail.kriselda.net>
Message-ID: <becch7+s6v9@eGroups.com>

OK, shes older than emma chambers but i've always thought maureen 
lipman was perfect for trelawney. See this pic and imagine her with 
glasses and scarves and stuff:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/255000/images/_255276_maureen_lipman150.
jpg




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  7 18:43:17 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:43:17 -0000
Subject: Trelawney (was) Casting the film
In-Reply-To: <becch7+s6v9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <becf05+812c@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "jules" <iluvmax666 at y...> wrote:
> OK, shes older than emma chambers but i've always thought maureen 
> lipman was perfect for trelawney. See this pic and imagine her 
with 
> glasses and scarves and stuff:
> 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/255000/images/_255276_maureen_lipman150
.
> jpg

Me: Actually I think she'd make a great Rita

Fan




From amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com  Wed Jul  9 11:28:05 2003
From: amidalaskywalker at pinoymail.com (faura2002)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:28:05 -0000
Subject: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <76.2f7afd11.2c3acdb2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <begu85+c1ap@eGroups.com>

> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> > what about hugh grant for kingsley ?


Hugh Grant was proposed to play Gilderoy Lockhart but the bosses 
thought he's too big a star to play the part, i.e. people would be 
thinking "Hugh Grant" everytime Lockhart enters the scene. 

Although, Grant could have played well the character, Branagh made an 
excellent second choice.

ola, people!

faura







From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  9 12:50:46 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:50:46 -0000
Subject: Cast Me! 
Message-ID: <beh336+dmf7@eGroups.com>

No, not me (unless you're looking for the long-lost offspring of 
Hermione Granger & Viktor Krum).. 

There are more cast members out there who by virtue of their 
anonimity, peerage or vintage are just patiently waiting in line for 
their chance to be immortalised into a "Lego" person, just like the 
late Richard Harris by appearing in one of the forthcoming films. 
Problem is, I just can't seem to pin-point who they'll be 
channeling. Here are a few to start off with (incidentally, I 
fervently believe in that whole "a picture tells a thousand words" 
business) ...

Born to be in Slytherin -

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers (mentioned in earlier posts)was Draco's evil 
cousin, Steerpike in "Gormenghast" long before he was in "Bend it 
Like Beckham". Though he's aged a fair bit since that role 
(Gormenghast, that is), I defy anyone to not stick him in a future 
film as an Ever So Evil Slytherin. And - sorry - as much as I like 
young Severus, I *don't* think that Mr Rhys-Meyers would do as a 
young Snape "before he went all seedy and joined the Death Eaters"

http://www.gormenghastcastle.co.uk/graphics/spike.jpg

Mr Stephen Fry
How can you possibly be the wonderfully deep, plummy voice on all of 
those Harry Potter tapes, 6-foot 4, British, have personally met JKR 
and NOT be in one of the films? You simply can't. I predict that 
Stephen Fry will eventually turn up in one of the books - who do you 
see him portraying (as I haven't got a clue).

(cut & paste the link below if you can be bothered)
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-
images/Film/Close_Up/Players/1999/04/28/stephen_fry.jpg

Dame Helen Mirren

Right. She's an eminent British actor, friend of Alan Rickman AND 
just been appointed a Dame, PLUS she was very disturbing in her role 
as Michael Gambon's wife in "The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her 
Lover"...
http://www.animated-movies.net/ThePrinceOfEgyptVoice8.jpg
The stars foretell that Helen Mirren will be ... in Harry Potter 3?

Dame Judi Dench
See above (except that she didn't appear as Michael Gambon's wife in 
that film. Obviously.)


Over and out for now -

Sara
 
(who noticed the other day that "Mad Eye Mooney" had lived amongst 
us for many, many years under the guise of the late, great "Spike 
Milligan" )  
--> --> -->--> --> http://www.gdm93.dial.pipex.com/spike.jpg





From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul  9 14:19:04 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:19:04 -0000
Subject: Cast Me!
In-Reply-To: <beh336+dmf7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <beh88o+gffi@eGroups.com>

Sara wrote:
> Mr Stephen Fry
> How can you possibly be the wonderfully deep, plummy voice on all 
of 
> those Harry Potter tapes, 6-foot 4, British, have personally met 
JKR 
> and NOT be in one of the films? You simply can't. I predict that 
> Stephen Fry will eventually turn up in one of the books - who do 
you 
> see him portraying (as I haven't got a clue).
> 
> (cut & paste the link below if you can be bothered)
> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-
> images/Film/Close_Up/Players/1999/04/28/stephen_fry.jpg

Me:
Ludo Bagman? Broken nose, former public schoolboy? (I don't like the 
look of that Martin Landeman chap at all. Much too Amos Diggory)

I would like to offer a couple of additions to Sara's list:
Richard E. Grant. 
Melodramatic comedy genius of Withnail and I, and a face that ought 
to belong to a wizard. However, I can't fit him in anywhere, thanks 
to Mr Thewlis.

Hugh Laurie.
Stephen Fry's comedy partner, very good at playing bothered, stupid, 
floppy-haired types.

Also, I have a wicked, tricksy little idea that Richard Wilson 
from 'One Foot in the Grave' ought to be playing Phineas Nigellus. 
Not *just* because he says "I don't believe it..."
Kirstini




From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  9 15:10:33 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:10:33 -0000
Subject: Cast Me!
In-Reply-To: <beh88o+gffi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <behb99+9e0l@eGroups.com>

Kirstini wrote:

> I would like to offer a couple of additions to Sara's list:
> Richard E. Grant. Melodramatic comedy genius of Withnail and I, 
>and a face that ought to belong to a wizard. However, I can't fit 
>him in anywhere, thanks to Mr Thewlis.

Me:
Pale, pointed face. Very wicked blue eyes (I may get carried away a 
wee bit here) - I don't know, but I smell an ESE Slytherin old boy 
around him... Snape's distant relative perhaps?

Actually here (below) he looks like he should be related to Jonathan 
Rhys-Meyers (another ESE Slytherin, IMO)
http://www.blackcoffee.org.uk/images/richard_egrant.jpg

> Hugh Laurie.
> Stephen Fry's comedy partner, very good at playing bothered, 
stupid,floppy-haired types.

Me:
Oooh - very good (I was going to add Mr Laurie on later). He's a 
fixture of British TV & movies and (the clincher, I believe), is 
very good friends with Stephen Fry (and thereby, only one degree of 
seperation away from JKR approval).I think that he *could* just be a 
future ... Mr Barty (Snr) Crouch as he specialises in thick-headed 
upperclass aristos (I honestly defy anyone to prove me wrong on that 
point). 

Mr Crouch (cut & paste below)
http://www.paramountcomedy.com/shows/fryandlaurie/images/laurie_chara
cters.jpg

Sara (who now has link-itis AND insomnia)




From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  9 15:32:20 2003
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:32:20 -0000
Subject: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <begu85+c1ap@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <behci4+ceej@eGroups.com>

Hugh Grant for Kingsley??????  Uhhh, he's a black bald guy, isn't he?
I always picture Lupin as Hugh Grant, or Hugh Grant as Lupin.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "faura2002" 
<amidalaskywalker at p...> wrote:
> > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> > 
> > > what about hugh grant for kingsley ?
> 
> 
> Hugh Grant was proposed to play Gilderoy Lockhart but the bosses 
> thought he's too big a star to play the part, i.e. people would be 
> thinking "Hugh Grant" everytime Lockhart enters the scene. 
> 
> Although, Grant could have played well the character, Branagh made 
an 
> excellent second choice.
> 
> ola, people!
> 
> faura




From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  9 16:25:14 2003
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:25:14 -0000
Subject: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <behci4+ceej@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <behfla+fo4l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" <blackgold101 at y...> 
wrote:
> Hugh Grant for Kingsley??????  Uhhh, he's a black bald guy, isn't 
he?
> I always picture Lupin as Hugh Grant, or Hugh Grant as Lupin.
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "faura2002" 
> <amidalaskywalker at p...> wrote:
> > > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> > > 
> > > > what about hugh grant for kingsley ?
> > 
 Hey, if Micheal Clarke Duncan can be Kingpin... ;-)
 Than Hugh Grant can be Kingsley (too bad Mr Grant is no longer 
acting)...and man, I know Tonks is supposed to be white, but for 
some reason I think Naomie Harris (Selena from 28 Days) would be 
good in the part... Hey she is a metamorphmagus. 

 Could it be the short spikey hair, wirey frame, and great acting 
chops that lead me to that thought?? 

 *hmmmm*

  :-D

-daughter @)--/----




From ldavis at archermalmo.com  Wed Jul  9 17:50:42 2003
From: ldavis at archermalmo.com (ldavis711)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:50:42 -0000
Subject: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <begu85+c1ap@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <behkli+ufae@eGroups.com>


> Although, Grant could have played well the character, Branagh 
made an 
> excellent second choice.
> 

When I originally read the books, I thought of Branagh for Lupin. 
Maybe I'm crazy.




From jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  9 20:24:33 2003
From: jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net (Woolfolk)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:24:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <behkli+ufae@eGroups.com>
References: <behkli+ufae@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F0C7A01.9000503@sbcglobal.net>



ldavis711 wrote:

>
> > Although, Grant could have played well the character, Branagh
> made an
> > excellent second choice.
> >
>
> When I originally read the books, I thought of Branagh for Lupin.
> Maybe I'm crazy.


Colin Firth was always the face in my head for Lupin....not sure why.
And Sirus was Rupert Everett....Moody is always Sean Connery (grizzeld, 
but with a great voice..."constant vigilance")
Julie W in AR




From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 10 03:24:31 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:24:31 -0000
Subject: on Hugh Grant [WAS: casting OoP]
In-Reply-To: <behkli+ufae@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <beim9f+jq1g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "ldavis711" <ldavis at a...> wrote:
> 
> > Although, Grant could have played well the character, Branagh 
> made an 
> > excellent second choice.
> > 
> 
> When I originally read the books, I thought of Branagh for Lupin. 
> Maybe I'm crazy.

Well (mentioning this for the 20th time at least), when I first read 
POA, I immediately thought of Ralph Fiennes for Lupin. I'm still 
mourning the fact that Ralph wasn't cast, though I'm sure David 
Thewlis will be just fine :-)

Anne U
(Ralph-o-filiac)





From HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com  Thu Jul 10 04:04:32 2003
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 10 Jul 2003 04:04:32 -0000
Subject: Reminder - Nimbus - 2003 
Message-ID: <1057809872.28.77832.m15@yahoogroups.com>


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Nimbus - 2003 

Date: Thursday, July 17, 2003 
Time: All Day

Nimbus - 2003, the first international Harry Potter event,
begins at the Swan Hotel in Orlando, Florida (more info at
http://www.hp2003.org) 

 





From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 10 15:31:18 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:31:18 -0000
Subject: POA Footage?
Message-ID: <bek0s6+f7sa@eGroups.com>

This from TLC:

"Attendees of Comic-Con 2003, July 17-20 in San Diego, will 
have an opportunity to see footage from Warner Brothers' Harry 
Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban."

Anybody planning to be there?



Derannimer





From tmarends at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 10 15:56:12 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:56:12 -0000
Subject: POA Footage?
In-Reply-To: <bek0s6+f7sa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bek2as+oaga@eGroups.com>

I live in San Diego, and go every year.  Any idea on which day it's 
supposed to be shown?  I'll find out, I have some inside sorces to 
the Convention.

Tim

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" <susannahlm at y...> 
wrote:
> This from TLC:
> 
> "Attendees of Comic-Con 2003, July 17-20 in San Diego, will 
> have an opportunity to see footage from Warner Brothers' Harry 
> Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban."
> 
> Anybody planning to be there?
> 
> 
> 
> Derannimer




From CariadMel at aol.com  Thu Jul 10 11:56:21 2003
From: CariadMel at aol.com (Annette)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:56:21 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
Message-ID: <bejk95+jksv@eGroups.com>

Now half way into my second reading, much slower this tiem I have 
this image of Umbrage in my head. She 's the actress Patsy Rowlands, 
best known for TV work and The Carry-On films. She's short, has 
prominent eyes and speaks in a high voice. i saw her on stage in a 
production of Me and my Gal, she played a snobby countess to 
perfection... Go Patsy !
Here's s link for a pic.

http://www.simonharries.com/tmcelebphotos/carry-on.jpg





From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 10 17:39:21 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:39:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV33JrUhhlzuY00009a17@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030710173921.532.qmail@web14511.mail.yahoo.com>

emily watson had an accent in Punch Drunk Love, co starring Adam Sandler

Susan Atherton <suzloua at hotmail.com> wrote:Kirstini was casting OoP and she thought:
Tonks - Emily Watson (see above). 

Me:
Hmmm. I like Emily Watson a lot, but I haven't seen anything where she's being English - she always seems to be doing an American accent.

Kirstini:
Charlotte Coleman from Four Weddings would be *perfect*, but unfortunately died last year.

Me:
God. Charlotte Coleman would have been amazing. Scarlett just *is* Tonks. Not to go off into that, but her death was tragic (for those who don't know, she committed suicide). She was a great actress.

Kirstini:
Sorry for butting in, but I'm hiding from the main list at the 
moment as it scares me.

Me:
LOL ditto. I went away for the weekend, and I've got 45 posts from the main list. Each of those are digests. So that's 25 messages in each. Gah!!

Susan
who also wandered around singing Blame Canada after she saw South Park the movie.
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From iluvmax666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 10 21:45:54 2003
From: iluvmax666 at yahoo.com (jules)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:45:54 -0000
Subject: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <20030710173921.532.qmail@web14511.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bekmqi+4goq@eGroups.com>

Emily Watson would be great - if you want to se her with an english 
accent (and shes very good in this too) watch Gosford Park.
Also, and i hate to be morbid, but charlotte coleman didn't commit 
suicide, she died after an asthma attack in her flat (of this i am 
99% sure - correct me if im wrong) But as scarlett she was tonks, yes.




From rarpsl at optonline.net  Thu Jul 10 17:40:14 2003
From: rarpsl at optonline.net (Robert A. Rosenberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:40:14 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA Footage?
In-Reply-To: <bek0s6+f7sa@eGroups.com>
References: <bek0s6+f7sa@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <p06001800bb33546c4bb2@[192.168.1.11]>

At 15:31 +0000 on 07/10/2003, derannimer wrote about [HPFGU-Movie] 
POA Footage?:

>This from TLC:
>
>"Attendees of Comic-Con 2003, July 17-20 in San Diego, will
>have an opportunity to see footage from Warner Brothers' Harry
>Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban."
>
>Anybody planning to be there?

I assume that it will also get shown at this year's Worldcon (Labor 
Day Weekend in Toronto <http://www.torcon3.on.ca/>). There are 
usually Trailers and Advance footage at the "Trailer Park" Session as 
well as separate sessions for major Movie Events (HP&PoA would 
qualify).


--

Bob Rosenberg




From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 11 01:14:49 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:14:49 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bejk95+jksv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bel329+tk3o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Annette" <CariadMel at a...> wrote:
> Now half way into my second reading, much slower this tiem I have 
> this image of Umbrage in my head. 

Annette, I assume your spelling of Dolores' last name was a Freudian 
slip?? Because I haven't met a Potter fan yet who doesn't take 
umbrage at Umbridge:-)

Anne U
(hasn't seen a photo yet of an actress with a suitably "toady" 
face... thinks a prosthetic latex face might be needed ;-)





From insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul 11 02:17:34 2003
From: insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk (Scott)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:17:34 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bel329+tk3o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bel6nu+3gqg@eGroups.com>

Anne wrote:
> (hasn't seen a photo yet of an actress with a suitably "toady" 
> face... thinks a prosthetic latex face might be needed ;-)

I generally don't comment on this list, but I dropped in and must 
say some of the casting suggestions are quite amusing, but I love 
this game, which is what it is really. 

Anyway what about Barbara Leigh-Hunt for Umbridge? I guess she's too 
old (I don't think we know *how* old Dolores is though), but I think 
she has a sufficently droopy look even if she isn't the "squatest" 
person. I'm thinking particulary of her in "Pride and Prejudice" 
(the one with Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle) where she played Lady 
Catherine de Bourgh--
http://www3.telus.net/yve/pics/ladyc2.jpg

Although here is another good picture of her as Lady Cumnor 
in "Wives and Daughters"--

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/wives/whoswho/ladycumnor_bio.html

Scott
Who can take solace in the fact that as crazy as this idea might be 
nothing could be as crazy as Hugh Grant playing Kingsley 
Shacklebolt. Whoever wrote that I must say that it was a great joke! 

(still laughing)




From a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 11 03:53:20 2003
From: a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com (a_rude_mechanical)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:53:20 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bejk95+jksv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <belcbg+od0o@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Annette" <CariadMel at a...> wrote:
> Now half way into my second reading, much slower this tiem I have 
> this image of Umbrage in my head. She 's the actress Patsy 
Rowlands, 
> best known for TV work and The Carry-On films. She's short, has 
> prominent eyes and speaks in a high voice. i saw her on stage in a 
> production of Me and my Gal, she played a snobby countess to 
> perfection... Go Patsy !
> Here's s link for a pic.
> 
> http://www.simonharries.com/tmcelebphotos/carry-on.jpg


Ooooh, she's a good choice.  I can't help but stick with my Kathy 
Burke pick, though!!!  

Elisabeth




From a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 11 03:56:11 2003
From: a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com (a_rude_mechanical)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:56:11 -0000
Subject: Keira Knightley (Was Casting OoP)
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV28z0xhb27sN0000a12d@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <belcgr+mlea@eGroups.com>

--- > Actually, this isn't the first time I've heard Keira 
Knightley's name in relation to HP. She's a bit of a rising star in 
the UK - was in The Hole, which I believe hasn't been released in 
cinemas yet in the US? She is also in Love Actually, the directorial 
debut of Richard Curtis, released this summer and looks set to be 
the new Notting Hill/Four Weddings (despite the inclusion of Martine 
McCutcheon...) and popped up in Episode I as one of Natalie 
Portman's handmaids. 
> 
> Anyway, when I've heard her mentioned before, it's been in 
reference to Fleur! She's blonde, British, and very very pretty - I 
once saw a pic of her that was amazingly Veelaesque. If anyone wants 
to see her Fleur credentials, her character in The Hole, Frankie, is 
extremely Fleur-like (in one storyline, anyway - can't really say 
much more without ruining that movie, which is very good).
>> 
> Susan
> 

I could deal with Keira for Fleur, I guess--but I have a new pick 
for Tonks: Minnie Driver.  

Elisabeth




From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul 11 04:30:07 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:30:07 -0000
Subject: Casting OoP/Umbridge (Was: Keira Knightly)
In-Reply-To: <belcgr+mlea@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <belegf+6du3@eGroups.com>

 Elisabeth:
> I could deal with Keira for Fleur, I guess--but I have a new pick 
> for Tonks: Minnie Driver>

Minnie Driver would look awful with pink spiky hair. ;D 

I've come back to my original (ie, when reading the book for the 
first time) choice for Umbridge, though. Imelda Staunton. Peter's 
Friends, Much Ado About Nothing, Twelfth Night, Crush and etc.

See here for a not very Umbridge photo, but the only one I could 
find (internet not tending to go in for photos of women who don't 
look like Keira Knightly)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/faces/imelda_staunton.shtml

Kirstini

Hey, Sara, guess where I got this idea from?





From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Fri Jul 11 04:50:22 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:50:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting OoP/Umbridge (Was: Keira Knightly)
In-Reply-To: <belegf+6du3@eGroups.com>
References: <belcgr+mlea@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030710234110.026ba040@mail.kriselda.net>

kirst_inn recently mentioned:

>I've come back to my original (ie, when reading the book for the
>first time) choice for Umbridge, though. Imelda Staunton. Peter's
>Friends, Much Ado About Nothing, Twelfth Night, Crush and etc.
>
>See here for a not very Umbridge photo, but the only one I could
>find (internet not tending to go in for photos of women who don't
>look like Keira Knightly)
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/faces/imelda_staunton.shtml

I keep seeing Umbridge looking and acting a lot like Lady Gertrude - played 
by Celia Imrie -from the BBC production of Gormahghast (which also starred 
the performers playing Madame Hooch, Uncle Vernon, and Aunt Petunia - and 
the irrepressible Jonathan Rhys-Myers who keeps getting mentioned on this 
list though we haven't yet found a character for him to play (dammit!)

Some good Imperial Toad pictures of her are here: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/gormenghast/std/char/gertrude.shtml




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From steffy07 at aol.com  Fri Jul 11 03:56:07 2003
From: steffy07 at aol.com (steffy07)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:56:07 -0000
Subject: POA:  Casting
Message-ID: <belcgn+99j5@eGroups.com>

For all you casting fans out there, a great web site to look at for 
casting and film information is www.imdb.com.  Its the internet movie 
database.  

I was looking at it to see if they had casted anybody for Trewlawney, 
and I noticed that there was no casting listed for Cho or Cedric 
either.  Does anyone know if they have casted anyone for these 
roles?  I know that they are just mentioned in the Quidditch games, 
but they are introduced in POA, which makes us feel like we already 
know them in GOF when Cedric is picked for the tournament and Cho is 
his date to the dance.  Are they being left out completely?  And if 
so, does that mean that the Quidditch matches are going to be left 
out as well?  Just my thoughts.  

Steffy





From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Jul 11 08:50:27 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:50:27 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]cast me
Message-ID: <51.31f9f03f.2c3fd453@aol.com>



> Mr Stephen Fry
> How can you possibly be the wonderfully deep, plummy voice on all of 
> those Harry Potter tapes, 6-foot 4, British, have personally met JKR 
> and NOT be in one of the films? You simply can't. I predict that 
> Stephen Fry will eventually turn up in one of the books - who do you 
> see him portraying (as I haven't got a clue).
> 

There's an interview with Jim Dale, the voice of the HP books for Americans, 
on The Leaky Cauldron these days.  (TLC actually did the interview, which is a 
nice one!)  He said he'd love to be in the HP movies, and that he heard they 
were actually using his characterizations to help cast the film -- yet they 
haven't approached him about being in the movie!  Isn't that weird?  I like Jim 
Dale a lot, and he's done a wonderful job with the books (for you Brits, he is 
a Brit and does all kinds of regional accents for the various parts, as well 
as different sounding voices).  Let's find a part for Jim Dale!  ;->

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul 11 12:35:16 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:35:16 -0000
Subject: POA:  Casting
In-Reply-To: <belcgn+99j5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bemau4+auuv@eGroups.com>

Steffy:
I noticed that there was no casting listed for Cho or Cedric 
> either.  Does anyone know if they have casted anyone for these 
> roles? <snip> And if 
> so, does that mean that the Quidditch matches are going to be left 
> out as well?  Just my thoughts.  

Cho isn't in the film, that one's official from Newsround. I think 
they *have* to have the Hufflepuff game in, otherwise there isn't 
any tension about the winning/not winning of the Cup. Although it 
hasn't bothered them in the other two films. 
There were rumours that the casting directors were deciding between 
two actors for Cedric: the boy who played the Count of Monte 
Cristo's son (don't know his name) and drippy little Jack Ryder from 
the British soap Eastenders. Which would be an abomination. ;)
Kirstini




From tmarends at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 11 16:37:34 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:37:34 -0000
Subject: Casting OoP/Umbridge (Was: Keira Knightly)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030710234110.026ba040@mail.kriselda.net>
Message-ID: <bemp4e+f7af@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Kriselda Jarnsaxa 
<thorswitch at t...> wrote: 
> I keep seeing Umbridge looking and acting a lot like Lady Gertrude -
 played 
> by Celia Imrie -from the BBC production of Gormahghast (which also 
starred 
> the performers playing Madame Hooch, Uncle Vernon, and Aunt 
Petunia - and 
> the irrepressible Jonathan Rhys-Myers who keeps getting mentioned 
on this 
> list though we haven't yet found a character for him to play 
(dammit!)
> 
> Some good Imperial Toad pictures of her are here: 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/gormenghast/std/char/gertrude.shtml
> 
> 
> 
> 

Joanthan Rhys-Myers = Barty Crouch Jr.




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Fri Jul 11 17:17:41 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:17:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting OoP/Umbridge (Was: Keira
  Knightly)
In-Reply-To: <bemp4e+f7af@eGroups.com>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030710234110.026ba040@mail.kriselda.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030711121524.00bcce98@mail.kriselda.net>

Tim recently mentioned:

>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Kriselda Jarnsaxa
><thorswitch at t...> wrote:
> > I keep seeing Umbridge looking and acting a lot like Lady Gertrude -
>  played
> > by Celia Imrie -from the BBC production of Gormahghast (which also
>starred
> > the performers playing Madame Hooch, Uncle Vernon, and Aunt
>Petunia - and
> > the irrepressible Jonathan Rhys-Myers who keeps getting mentioned
>on this
> > list though we haven't yet found a character for him to play
>(dammit!)
> >
> > Some good Imperial Toad pictures of her are here:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/gormenghast/std/char/gertrude.shtml
>
>
>Joanthan Rhys-Myers = Barty Crouch Jr.

Yeah, but Barty Crouch Jr is such a small role - he only gets to look like 
himself in a flashback (to the Pensieve) and after he gets outed, and then 
he gets the Dementor's Kiss and goes away :(   Though... with a bit of 
makeup (and the eye and misshapen nose would make makeup necessary to begin 
with, so it wouldn't be that much of a problem....) he could do 
Barty-as-Moody and then Moody-as-Moody in later movies...  <evil grin>

Casting by hormones is fun!  :)

Kriselda


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From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Jul 12 21:51:35 2003
From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:51:35 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <belcbg+od0o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bepvt7+rq8u@eGroups.com>

 I have 
> > this image of Umbrage in my head. She 's the actress Patsy 
> Rowlands, > Ooooh, she's a good choice.  I can't help but stick 
with my Kathy 
> Burke pick, though!!!  
> 
> Elisabeth

Kathy Burke as she was in Elizabeth when she played Mary Tudor?? 
Thankyou - I think I've finally got the definitive (for me anyway) 
Umbridge head vision.

Ugh.

(Incidentally - I love Kathy Burke in everything she's been in)

June. First poster to this board.




From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 13 00:50:18 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:50:18 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bepvt7+rq8u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <beqaca+si9k@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "junediamanti" 
<june.diamanti at b...> wrote:
>  I have 
> > > this image of Umbrage in my head. She 's the actress Patsy 
> > Rowlands, > Ooooh, she's a good choice.  I can't help but stick 
> with my Kathy 
> > Burke pick, though!!!  
> > 
> > Elisabeth
> 
> Kathy Burke as she was in Elizabeth when she played Mary Tudor?? 
> Thankyou - I think I've finally got the definitive (for me anyway) 
> Umbridge head vision.
> 
> Ugh.
> 
> (Incidentally - I love Kathy Burke in everything she's been in)
> 
> June. First poster to this board.

I'd never heard of Kathy Burke but I just looked her up on 
www.imdb.com. She seems a bit tall for Umbridge (but then so was John 
Rhys-Davies for Gimli ;-) ... but her face could work:

(you might need to copy and paste this into your browser)
http://us.imdb.com/EGallery?
source=ss&group=0301684&photo=Ss/0301684/onceuponatime_01.jpg&path=pga
llery&path_key=Burke,%20Kathy

Anne U
(estimates Umbridge at about 4 feet 11 inches and maybe 150 lb. 
Shorter even than I am, and even chubbier)





From moza_jf at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 13 19:34:15 2003
From: moza_jf at hotmail.com (Maureen )
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:34:15 -0000
Subject: Kingsley Shacklebolt
Message-ID: <besc7n+7q28@eGroups.com>

Hello.

OK, we're agreed that Hguh Grant is way off for Kingsley.  What 
about Adewale Akinnuoye-Abaje who played Lock-nah in the Mummy 
Returns?

http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Akinnuoye-Agbaje,%20Adewale


(my very muggle boyfriend suggested Don Warrington from Rising Damp)

Mo 




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Mon Jul 14 01:13:24 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:13:24 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <besc7n+7q28@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030713201300.00b78d08@mail.kriselda.net>

Maureen recently mentioned:

>Hello.
>
>OK, we're agreed that Hguh Grant is way off for Kingsley.  What
>about Adewale Akinnuoye-Abaje who played Lock-nah in the Mummy
>Returns?
>
>http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Akinnuoye-Agbaje,%20Adewale

Him I could see....


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From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 14 12:50:55 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:50:55 -0000
Subject: Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <besc7n+7q28@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <beu8vf+auvi@eGroups.com>

Mo wrote:
'OK, we're agreed that Hugh Grant is way off for Kingsley.  What 
about Adewale Akinnuoye-Abaje who played Lock-nah in the Mummy 
Returns?'
 
http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Akinnuoye-Agbaje,%20Adewale

Me:
What an excellent suggestion! 
Nonetheless, on behalf of Mo's muggle boyfriend, I present-

Don Warrington
http://www.bbcamerica.com/images/genre/comedy_games/manchild/manchild
_patrick.jpg

And a few friends -

Hugh... Quarshie from Highlander, and Red Dwarf (amongst other 
things)
http://www.oneword.co.uk/pocket/_img/hugh_quarshie.gif

Lenny Henry (well, he IS married to Dawn French, who's already in 
the films; ie very good HP pedigree)

Kingsley seeing Volemort in the Death Chamber..(my version thereof)
[CUT & PASTE PLEASE]
http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/iccoventry/mar2002/2/1/000C0A46-
4994-1C7F-AD1380C328EC018A.jpg

The Royal Shacklebolt...Shakespeare Company's David Oyewolo 
(currently starring in Spooks)... where is it said that Kingsley's 
middle-aged? And imagine alllll of those Tonks/Kingsley 
any_female_character/Kingley ships bobbing up after the film is 
released!

[CUT & PASTE PLEASE]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38408000/jpg/_38408055_lords_david
300.jpg 


And finally, who I envisaged in my mind's eye whilst reading OOP 
(for better or for worse, from those "Franchises that Must Not Be 
Named") - I mean how many cool bald black men can there be in a 
moviedom?  

[CUT & PASTE PLEASE]
http://www.artoosnews.com/artooscustoms/imagearchive/images/character
s/jedicouncil/mace_windu.jpg

[CUT & PASTE PLEASE]
http://perso.club-internet.fr/dito/fichesdvd/matrix/morpheus.jpg

Perhaps in a bold casting decision, Mr Grant will be cast after 
all...

Sara 
(whose judgement (and sanity) you can gauge by the fact that her 
ideal vision of Aragorn from "Lord of the Rings" when reading the 
book as a teenager was none other than (the very cool) Jimmy Nail...)
http://home.swipnet.se/surfs_up/images/jimmynail.jpg

BTW: Dead Set Sure prediction - whoever is cast as Fleur will 
instantly attain a legion of male fans who'll procede to insist that 
the rest of the films be retitled "Fleur Delacoeur and the Goblet of 
Fire" and "Fleur Delacouer and the Banking Vault at Gringotts"...




From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Jul 15 20:53:24 2003
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:53:24 -0000
Subject: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <20030710173921.532.qmail@web14511.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bf1pk4+g39e@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...> 
wrote:
> emily watson had an accent in Punch Drunk Love, co starring Adam 
Sandler
> 

She also played an English housemaid in Gosford Park.  And she IS 
English.  The IMDB has her birthplace listed as Islington, London.

Kathy




From iluvmax666 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 15 22:08:25 2003
From: iluvmax666 at yahoo.com (jules)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:08:25 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <beqaca+si9k@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf1u0p+5tio@eGroups.com>

Kathy Burke's not that tall - plus she has got a fantastic way of 
being totally grotesque, as anyone who has seen her as waynetta slob 
in harry enfield! Thus, she is perfect for umbridge!




From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Jul 16 18:54:11 2003
From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:54:11 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bf1u0p+5tio@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf470j+hv04@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "jules" <iluvmax666 at y...> wrote:
> Kathy Burke's not that tall - plus she has got a fantastic way of 
> being totally grotesque, as anyone who has seen her as waynetta 
slob 
> in harry enfield! Thus, she is perfect for umbridge!

"Hem, hem"

then...

"I am smoking a faaaag! Carry on with those lines 'Arry"

I will never be able to seem Umbridge in the same way ever ever 
again.

June




From newdevilry9 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 16 17:59:12 2003
From: newdevilry9 at yahoo.com (newdevilry9)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:59:12 -0000
Subject: Quidditch in POA-  Was: POA:  Casting
In-Reply-To: <bemau4+auuv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf43pg+ug4m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "kirst_inn" <kirst_inn at y...> 
wrote:
> Steffy:
> I noticed that there was no casting listed for Cho or Cedric 
> > either.  Does anyone know if they have casted anyone for these 
> > roles? <snip> And if 
> > so, does that mean that the Quidditch matches are going to be 
left 
> > out as well?  Just my thoughts.  
> 
> Cho isn't in the film, that one's official from Newsround. I think 
> they *have* to have the Hufflepuff game in, otherwise there isn't 
> any tension about the winning/not winning of the Cup. Although it 
> hasn't bothered them in the other two films. 
> There were rumours that the casting directors were deciding between 
> two actors for Cedric: the boy who played the Count of Monte 
> Cristo's son (don't know his name) and drippy little Jack Ryder 
from 
> the British soap Eastenders. Which would be an abomination. ;)
> Kirstini

I believe it is fact that Sean Biggerstaff will not be in POA which 
says to me that the emphasis on Quidditch will not be what it has 
been.  I think that's strange, as this is the year Gryffindor wins 
the cup.  If the Cup's being disregarded, that is one thing,  but it 
is during the Hufflepuff game that the dementors show up and Harry 
falls off his broom.  Which is very important to the plot.   It will 
be interesting to see how this plays out.




From florentinemaier at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 16 13:38:59 2003
From: florentinemaier at hotmail.com (Florentine Maier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:38:59 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bf1u0p+5tio@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf3khj+86u5@eGroups.com>

I suggest the Austrian minister of education, Ms Elisabeth Gehrer, 
should play Umbridge!

I've added her (only slightly modified) portrait in the photo-
section, it's the 22nd, named "Umbridge".

Greetings,
Florentine in Vienna





From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 17 08:52:16 2003
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:52:16 -0000
Subject: Orlando Bloom as Cedric??
Message-ID: <bf5o40+ku1t@eGroups.com>

Seeing as casting directors often use actors in their twenties to 
play teenagers, do you think Orlando Bloom is too old (or possibly 
too well-known, now) to play Cedric Diggory?






From nina.baker at uk.maynepharma.com  Thu Jul 17 12:57:13 2003
From: nina.baker at uk.maynepharma.com (nb100uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:57:13 -0000
Subject: OOP Casting Dolores, again!
In-Reply-To: <bf470j+hv04@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf66f9+ma08@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "junediamanti" 
<june.diamanti at b...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "jules" <iluvmax666 at y...> wrote:
> > Kathy Burke's not that tall - plus she has got a fantastic way of 
> > being totally grotesque, as anyone who has seen her as waynetta 
> slob 
> > in harry enfield! Thus, she is perfect for umbridge!
> 
> "Hem, hem"
> 
> then...
> 
> "I am smoking a faaaag! Carry on with those lines 'Arry"
> 
> I will never be able to seem Umbridge in the same way ever ever 
> again.
> 
> June

That's fantastic, ROTFL - I'm also having images of Linda, her 
character in 'Gimme Gimme Gimme' as Umbridge - very disturbing!!

Glad to see there are others worshiping at the Kathy Burke altar - 
utterly fantastic actress.  She's great mates with Gary Oldman, maybe 
that could swing the casting in her direction.

Nina




From nina.baker at uk.maynepharma.com  Thu Jul 17 13:13:04 2003
From: nina.baker at uk.maynepharma.com (nb100uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:13:04 -0000
Subject: Casting OoP
In-Reply-To: <20030710173921.532.qmail@web14511.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bf67d0+r5gi@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...> 
wrote:
> Kirstini:
> Charlotte Coleman from Four Weddings would be *perfect*, but 
unfortunately died last year.
> 
> Matt:
> God. Charlotte Coleman would have been amazing. Scarlett just *is* 
Tonks. Not to go off into that, but her death was tragic (for those 
who don't know, she committed suicide). She was a great actress.
> 

I think I should post a correction - Charlotte Coleman did NOT commit 
suicide - she died from an asthma attack.  She'd suffered from asthma 
for her whole life and it was truly tragic that she died so young, 
aged only 33.

On the subject of Charlotte and her perfection for Tonks, she is 
survived by a wonderful younger sister Lisa Coleman, who is also an 
actress (the similarity is spooky - I spend many years having to wait 
until the end credits to discover which Coleman it was!).  For many 
years Lisa was on a very popular BBC drama, Casualty and, naturally, 
fits the HP requirements of being British and a great character 
actress.




From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Jul 17 14:38:57 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:38:57 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Quidditch in PoA
Message-ID: <7e.3b1ceb3c.2c480f01@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/17/2003 6:32:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> I believe it is fact that Sean Biggerstaff will not be in POA which 
> says to me that the emphasis on Quidditch will not be what it has 
> been.  I think that's strange, as this is the year Gryffindor wins 
> the cup.  If the Cup's being disregarded, that is one thing,  but it 
> is during the Hufflepuff game that the dementors show up and Harry 
> falls off his broom.  Which is very important to the plot.   It will 
> be interesting to see how this plays out.
> 

I'm sure they'll have enough Quidditch to make winning the Cup exciting.  I 
think Wood just had such a small part in this one (despite it being an 
IMPORTANT part, argh) that they figured they could make it work without him, which 
also saved them his salary, whatever that was.  I doubt his salary was enough to 
be a big consideration in whether to have him in the movie or not -- I think 
it was a time constraint thing -- they could have someone say Wood was trying 
to drown himself in the shower, etc., have Harry gripe about Wood driving him 
nuts with strategy tips, etc., without ever showing Wood himself (daggone it!)

Lynda Sappington
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Jul 17 14:50:54 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:50:54 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Orlando Bloom
Message-ID: <44.33658be1.2c4811ce@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/17/2003 6:32:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> do you think Orlando Bloom is too old (or possibly 
> too well-known, now) to play Cedric Diggory

Probably too well-known, and his price is probably too high now.  And daggone 
it, they've been filming so long, they must have gotten to Cedric's part by 
now, so why don't we know who it is?  If it was Orlando, I think we would've 
heard by now.  (But I sure like Orlando Bloom -- wonder who else he could play?)

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 17 18:15:55 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:15:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Orlando Bloom
References: <44.33658be1.2c4811ce@aol.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c34c8f$8321f1a0$dda0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

I'm prepared to get stoned for saying this, but personally, I don't find Orlando Bloom attractive enough for Cedric.  He's supposed to be really handsome, I originally pictured him more along the lines of Christian Coulson , but they already used him. :)  

Richelle


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From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Fri Jul 18 02:47:34 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth/Wufei)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 02:47:34 -0000
Subject: Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <besc7n+7q28@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7n46+jrp1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Maureen " <moza_jf at h...> wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> OK, we're agreed that Hguh Grant is way off for Kingsley.  What 
> about Adewale Akinnuoye-Abaje who played Lock-nah in the Mummy 
> Returns?
> 
> http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Akinnuoye-Agbaje,%20Adewale
> 
> 
> (my very muggle boyfriend suggested Don Warrington from Rising Damp)
> 
> Mo

Beth in Sacramento says

Oooh, nice! I like Adewale Akinnuoye-Abaje, although I have never 
seen the Mummy Returns, so I don't actually know who he is.

Kinglsey is kindof a...special character for me, because he is the 
only person in the Potterverse who I *immediatly* cast in my mind as 
a movie actor. I saw as Kinglsley was Lawrence Fishbourne, 
particularly in his movie version of Othello when he, like Kingsley, 
was bald with a hoop earring. I know, I know, he's not British, so he 
probably won't be cast. I think that's a bummer.

The only person I think Hugh ever had a shot at was Lockhart, and 
well, that part is no longer available :-) 


Beth





From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Fri Jul 18 03:03:01 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth/Wufei)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:03:01 -0000
Subject: Cast Me!
In-Reply-To: <beh336+dmf7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf7o15+ts2t@eGroups.com>

 


Mr Stephen Fry
 I predict that 
> Stephen Fry will eventually turn up in one of the books - who do 
you 
> see him portraying (as I haven't got a clue).

Tough one! He would have made a good Arthur Weasley. Perhaps a 
Mundungus Fletcher, or......oh, gosh, that's hard. Oh! What about a 
Death Eater Crabb or a Dad Goyle? Yes, he would be evil, but it would 
be a juicy part.



> Dame Helen Mirren

> http://www.animated-movies.net/ThePrinceOfEgyptVoice8.jpg

Argh. If she were a little younger, she would be the perfect 
Bellatrix Lestrange.



> Dame Judi Dench

I think she has the acting chops to be a fabulous Umbridge, but I 
would have to go with Imelda Staunton. 


And Richard E Grant were in any of the films, he would HAVE TO be a 
Slytherin. He has the same yummmy-cold-evil-bastard look that Jason 
Isaacs perfected as Lucius.






From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 18 03:42:52 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:42:52 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Kingsley Shacklebolt
References: <bf7n46+jrp1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <01c801c34cde$ab7ecb10$4ca2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Beth wrote:

> Kinglsey is kindof a...special character for me, because he is the 
> only person in the Potterverse who I *immediatly* cast in my mind as 
> a movie actor. I saw as Kinglsley was Lawrence Fishbourne, 
> particularly in his movie version of Othello when he, like Kingsley, 
> was bald with a hoop earring. I know, I know, he's not British, so he 
> probably won't be cast. I think that's a bummer.

Kingsley immediately popped into my head as Samuel L. Jackson.  SUnforpecifically, Jackson as Mace Windu. Laurence Fishburne would be good too, I loved him in The Matrix.  Unfortunately as you say neither Fishburne nor Jackson are British, so there goes that.  Anybody know a British guy that looks like either of their twins? 

Richelle


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 18 03:49:01 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:49:01 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Kingsley Shacklebolt
References: <bf7n46+jrp1@eGroups.com> <01c801c34cde$ab7ecb10$4ca2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <01dd01c34cdf$8c8573c0$4ca2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Okay, not to be replying to my own email  here, but I am anyway. :)  That first word on the second line is supposed to be "more specifically."  No idea what happened there!

> Kingsley immediately popped into my head as Samuel L. Jackson.  
> SUnforpecifically, Jackson as Mace Windu. Laurence Fishburne would be good too, > I loved him in The Matrix.  Unfortunately as you say neither Fishburne nor 
> Jackson are British, so there goes that.  Anybody know a British guy that looks > like either of their twins? 

On another note, how about Jonathan Firth.  Not for Kinglsey, I mean can we find him a role somewhere?  Anywhere?

Richelle


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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jul 18 12:34:48 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:34:48 -0000
Subject: Cast Me!
In-Reply-To: <bf7o15+ts2t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf8ph8+co93@eGroups.com>

Tasukibeth wrote:
> > Dame Judi Dench
> I think she has the acting chops to be a fabulous Umbridge, but I 
> would have to go with Imelda Staunton. 

I've just had a Judi Dench idea. How about Amelia Bones? Small part, 
I know, but then they have very well-known actors playing Madam Hooch 
and Harry's Erised/flashback parents, which are even smaller parts.
Amelia Bones has short grey hair and a square jaw. Shove a monocle on 
Dame Judi and we'd be sorted!
Kirstini




From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 16:22:40 2003
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:22:40 -0000
Subject: HP Casting Voldemort
Message-ID: <bf96sg+uuin@eGroups.com>

I don't know if this has been discussed here at all (I know I haven't 
seen it), but who would you all like to see cast as Voldemort?

I ran a poll at my own group 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultHPFanatics) with Christopher Lee, 
Ian Holm, Anthony Hopkins, Ben Kingsley and Gary Oldman (with a 'too 
bad he's Sirius note).

I pictured Voldemort as a little man (w/ power issues) so Sir Ben got 
my vote.

Marci




From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Fri Jul 18 19:50:56 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth/Wufei)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:50:56 -0000
Subject: Cast Me!/Stephen Fry
In-Reply-To: <bf7o15+ts2t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bf9j30+bsad@eGroups.com>

Yeah, yeah, I am responding to myself. I just thought of a part for 
Stephen Fry - It's a longshot and would have to be done in flashback 
form, similar to the flashback of Lily's death - what about pre-
tortured Daddy Longbottom?

Beth in Sacramento




From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 18 20:55:59 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:55:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Cast Me!/Stephen Fry
In-Reply-To: <bf9j30+bsad@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030718205559.11847.qmail@web14512.mail.yahoo.com>

He should have been Sir Cadohad but in that absense why not the Muggle Campground leader?

Tasukibeth/Wufei <Tasukibeth1 at cs.com> wrote:Yeah, yeah, I am responding to myself. I just thought of a part for 
Stephen Fry - It's a longshot and would have to be done in flashback 
form, similar to the flashback of Lily's death - what about pre-
tortured Daddy Longbottom?

Beth in Sacramento


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From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Sat Jul 19 04:47:36 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth/Wufei)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 04:47:36 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody
Message-ID: <bfaih8+flab@eGroups.com>

Mad-eye is one of my favorite characters, and I have enjoyed skimming 
the posts to see who looked good to me. For some reason, none of 
them...felt right to me. 

So I was thinking...thinking..............errrrr...thinking (this is 
hard)! Personally, I think the gentleman who plays Filch in the would 
have been PERFECT - if I were casting, I would have to use a time-
turner and re-cast the roles. But I digress. 

So here is my (don't get mad!) opinion:

Sean Connery - too famous. He would steal the thunder from the rest 
of the cast.

Patrick Stewart - too handsome. Mad-eye can't be the hottest man in 
the movie, it would just be weird.

Billy Connelly....hmm, that's a good one. Can he drop the accent for 
the role?

Ian McKellan - er, he's probably too busy.

Anthony Hopkins - too cliche. He'll frighten the children.

Bob Hoskins - not old enough, and a bit too short.

which leads my to my two suggestions (I love them both so much, I 
can't decide - and feel free to shoot'em down if you disagree:-) )

(1) Malcolm McDowell. He's old enough, he's one of the creepiest men 
on the planet, amd his career could use a bit of a boost.

or...

(2) Jeremy Irons!!! Scary, grizzled, and very intimidating. I can 
TOTALLY see him growling "Constant Vigilance!"

well, those are my two knuts, it felt good to get that off my chest.

Beth in Sacramento





From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 06:06:09 2003
From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:06:09 -0000
Subject: Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <01dd01c34cdf$8c8573c0$4ca2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <bfan4h+6bbq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
> > Kingsley immediately popped into my head as Samuel L. Jackson.  
> > SUnforpecifically, Jackson as Mace Windu. Laurence Fishburne 
would be good too, > I loved him in The Matrix.  Unfortunately as 
you say neither Fishburne nor 
> > Jackson are British, so there goes that.  Anybody know a British 
guy that looks > like either of their twins? 

How about Colin Salmon? Though I don't think he could be mistaken 
for either SLJ or LF, Pierce Brosnan thought he could play James 
Bond ... http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_733331.html?
menu= ... http://us.imdb.com/Name?Salmon,+Colin
 
> On another note, how about Jonathan Firth.  

Barty Crouch, Jr??? 

Marianne




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sat Jul 19 11:08:18 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:08:18 -0500
Subject: Quick Question on Houses
In-Reply-To: <bfaih8+flab@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030719060444.00b9adb8@mail.kriselda.net>

What houses did Moony, Prongs, Padfoot and Wormtail belong to?  I'm 
watching "Sorcerer's Stone" again and just got to the part where Ron says 
that there wasn't a witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in Slytherin, 
but I thought that MPP&W were all Gryffendors.  At the time of "Sorcerer's 
Stone" everyone thought Sirius had gone bad (as evidenced by his supposedly 
having turned James and Lily over to Voldermort), but it turned out to be 
Wormtail.  For Ron's statement to be true, though, at least Sirius would 
have had to have been a Slytherin, and I don't recall that he was?

Thanks!


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From eric at toastpoint.com  Sat Jul 19 12:22:25 2003
From: eric at toastpoint.com (Eric Peterson)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:22:25 -0400
Subject: Moody and MacDowell
Message-ID: <200307191222.h6JCMHnj003651@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com>

Beth in Sacrimento posted (and I snipped)
 
> Mad-eye is one of my favorite characters, and I have enjoyed skimming 
> the posts to see who looked good to me. For some reason, none of 
> them...felt right to me. 
> 
> Sean Connery - too famous. He would steal the thunder from the rest 
> of the cast.

Possibly, but he'd be great, and honestly the others are well-enough established by movie 4 that it wouldn't be a problem.

> Patrick Stewart - too handsome. Mad-eye can't be the hottest man in 
> the movie, it would just be weird.

He's my first choice, actually.  It's all about the makeup.  Possible Voldemort, too. And he's more in the same famous range as Rickman/Smith etc.

> (1) Malcolm McDowell. He's old enough, he's one of the creepiest men 
> on the planet, amd his career could use a bit of a boost.

Not as Moody, but DEFINITELY a candidate for Voldemort. 

 - Eric




From christin.gahnstrom at telia.com  Sat Jul 19 13:36:04 2003
From: christin.gahnstrom at telia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christin=20Gahnstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:36:04 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Quick Question on Houses
Message-ID: <200307191336.h6JDa4R10430@d1o401.telia.com>

I've thought about Ron's line too, and it just doesn't make sense. I 
mean, if you have to be in Slytherin to be evil, then it'd be an easy 
job to keep traitors out of, for example, the order. Just don't accept 
any Slytherins. I think Ron was just generalizing.


Christin
--------------------------

What houses did Moony, Prongs, Padfoot and Wormtail belong to?  I'm 
watching "Sorcerer's Stone" again and just got to the part where Ron 
says 
that there wasn't a witch or wizard who went bad that wasn't in 
Slytherin, 
but I thought that MPP&W were all Gryffendors.  At the time 
of "Sorcerer's 
Stone" everyone thought Sirius had gone bad (as evidenced by his 
supposedly 
having turned James and Lily over to Voldermort), but it turned out to 
be 
Wormtail.  For Ron's statement to be true, though, at least Sirius 
would 
have had to have been a Slytherin, and I don't recall that he was?

Thanks!



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sat Jul 19 15:00:20 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:00:20 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
References: <bfaih8+flab@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002001c34e06$7992f3f0$35a0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Beth wrote:

> Ian McKellan - er, he's probably too busy.

Oh, I don't know.  After all the Dumbledore hoopla he said there was another
role in HP he'd like to play in the future.  And OOP wasn't out yet, so it
had to be someone who first appeared in GoF.  Besides Moody who else is
there for him?  Karkaroff?  What a waste.  Crouch Sr.?  Not the type.  Gotta
be Moody.

Marianne suggested (for Kingsley):

> How about Colin Salmon? Though I don't think he could be
> mistaken for either SLJ or LF,

Hmm, not bad.

And Marianne suggested Jonathan Firth could play:

> Barty Crouch, Jr???

Hmmm. He's a bit old for preAzkaban BC Jr, but he could be made up to look
younger.  We'll have to die his hair . . . not a problem. :)

Richelle





From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 15:04:41 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:04:41 -0000
Subject: Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <bf7n46+jrp1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfbmm9+9ocd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tasukibeth/Wufei" 
<Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
>> Kinglsey is kindof a...special character for me, because he is the 
> only person in the Potterverse who I *immediatly* cast in my mind 
as 
> a movie actor. I saw as Kinglsley was Lawrence Fishbourne, 
> particularly in his movie version of Othello when he, like 
Kingsley, 
> was bald with a hoop earring. I know, I know, he's not British, so 
he 
> probably won't be cast. I think that's a bummer.
> 
> The only person I think Hugh ever had a shot at was Lockhart, and 
> well, that part is no longer available :-) 
> 
>

Laurence Fishbourne would be great as Kingsley. So would (my own 
first choice) Avery Brooks, formerly Captain Benjamin Sisko on Star 
Trek: Deep Space Nine. I love his voice and his stage presence, and 
he looks great with a shaved head :-)

Anne U
(yes, I know he's not British...but if he *were*...)





From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 15:11:46 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:11:46 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tasukibeth/Wufei" 
<Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
> Mad-eye is one of my favorite characters, and I have enjoyed 
skimming 
> the posts to see who looked good to me. For some reason, none of 
> them...felt right to me. 
> 
> So I was thinking...thinking..............errrrr...thinking (this 
is 
> hard)! 

> Bob Hoskins - not old enough, and a bit too short.

Bob was my original first choice for Mad-Eye... Short doesn't matter; 
Robbie Coltrane is a bit too short to play Hagrid, and John Rhys-
Davies is way too tall to play Gimli in LOTR :-)

> 
> which leads my to my two suggestions (I love them both so much, I 
> can't decide - and feel free to shoot'em down if you disagree:-) )
> 
> (1) Malcolm McDowell. He's old enough, he's one of the creepiest 
men 
> on the planet, amd his career could use a bit of a boost.
> 
> or...
> 
> (2) Jeremy Irons!!! Scary, grizzled, and very intimidating. I can 
> TOTALLY see him growling "Constant Vigilance!"

I love both of these guys, but Jeremy just seems a tad too suave and 
good-looking for Mad-Eye. Malcolm McDowell, though, already has a 
stack of roles in which he has played guys who are more than a tad 
unhinged. He's already grizzled looking, and can be very intimidating 
(I'm remembering his wacked-out performance in one of the Star Trek 
movies a few years ago...). Okay, so now I'm torn between Bob Hoskins 
(mostly for his comedic talents) and Malcolm McDowell...

Anne U
(can imagine either of them growling "Constant vigilance!!")





From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 19 15:19:00 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:19:00 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
> Beth wrote:
> 
> > Ian McKellan - er, he's probably too busy.
> 
> Oh, I don't know.  After all the Dumbledore hoopla he said there 
was another
> role in HP he'd like to play in the future.  And OOP wasn't out 
yet, so it
> had to be someone who first appeared in GoF.  Besides Moody who 
else is
> there for him?  Karkaroff?  What a waste.  Crouch Sr.?  Not the 
type.  Gotta
> be Moody.

Uhhh... *hides under desk*... what about Sir Ian as Voldemort?? He's 
certainly be playing against type... maybe he'd like to play an Evil 
Overlord after playing Gandalf the Good for several years. It would 
certainly be a change. Christopher Lee would be great as Voldy, but 
the casting would be sooooo obvious... And now that I think of it 
(thanks Eric), Malcolm McDowell would make a great (but again 
obvious) Voldy.

> Marianne suggested (for Kingsley):
> 
> > How about Colin Salmon? Though I don't think he could be
> > mistaken for either SLJ or LF,
> 
> Hmm, not bad.

Hmmm, not bad at all (just saw his photo :-) Yet another British 
actor I hadn't heard of before (I don't go to Bond movies, so sue 
me)... but he'd definitely do.

Anne U
(will shut up now, really)





From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 17:13:48 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Kingsley Shacklebolt
In-Reply-To: <bfbmm9+9ocd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030719171348.12845.qmail@web14509.mail.yahoo.com>

what about Dijou Hinson (Sp?) from Amistead.  The lead role in that Speilberg film about the African slave trade?

Anne <anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tasukibeth/Wufei" 
<Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
>> Kinglsey is kindof a...special character for me, because he is the 
> only person in the Potterverse who I *immediatly* cast in my mind 
as 
> a movie actor. I saw as Kinglsley was Lawrence Fishbourne, 
> particularly in his movie version of Othello when he, like 
Kingsley, 
> was bald with a hoop earring. I know, I know, he's not British, so 
he 
> probably won't be cast. I think that's a bummer.
> 
> The only person I think Hugh ever had a shot at was Lockhart, and 
> well, that part is no longer available :-) 
> 
>

Laurence Fishbourne would be great as Kingsley. So would (my own 
first choice) Avery Brooks, formerly Captain Benjamin Sisko on Star 
Trek: Deep Space Nine. I love his voice and his stage presence, and 
he looks great with a shaved head :-)

Anne U
(yes, I know he's not British...but if he *were*...)



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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 17:16:02 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
In-Reply-To: <bfbnh4+lm12@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030719171602.65142.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>

Both McKellan & Lee are too old for Voldemort.  Remember he would be about 66 or so.  And for the last 13 years he had been closer to a ghost then a human, probably did age that well...

Anne <anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
> Beth wrote:
> 
> > Ian McKellan - er, he's probably too busy.
> 
> Oh, I don't know.  After all the Dumbledore hoopla he said there 
was another
> role in HP he'd like to play in the future.  And OOP wasn't out 
yet, so it
> had to be someone who first appeared in GoF.  Besides Moody who 
else is
> there for him?  Karkaroff?  What a waste.  Crouch Sr.?  Not the 
type.  Gotta
> be Moody.

Uhhh... *hides under desk*... what about Sir Ian as Voldemort?? He's 
certainly be playing against type... maybe he'd like to play an Evil 
Overlord after playing Gandalf the Good for several years. It would 
certainly be a change. Christopher Lee would be great as Voldy, but 
the casting would be sooooo obvious... And now that I think of it 
(thanks Eric), Malcolm McDowell would make a great (but again 
obvious) Voldy.

> Marianne suggested (for Kingsley):
> 
> > How about Colin Salmon? Though I don't think he could be
> > mistaken for either SLJ or LF,
> 
> Hmm, not bad.

Hmmm, not bad at all (just saw his photo :-) Yet another British 
actor I hadn't heard of before (I don't go to Bond movies, so sue 
me)... but he'd definitely do.

Anne U
(will shut up now, really)



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From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 18:04:14 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:04:14 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
Message-ID: <bfc16u+uomu@eGroups.com>

Come on, people! Was anybody here at the Comicon thing? And if so. . . *well*?

Oh, and on a different note; it's a shame these films weren't being made, say, twenty 
years ago. I recently rewatched _The Manchurian Candidate_, and Angela Lansbury 
could, I think, have made one *mean* Dolores Umbridge. 

(To all those people out there who say "Huh? Angela Lansbury? That nice old lady?" I 
suggest you watch _The Manchurian Candidate_.)




Derannimer




From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 19 18:06:59 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:06:59 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
Message-ID: <bfc1c3+l7ik@eGroups.com>

Aha. Whoops.

I've heard the footage is being shown sometime "Saturday morning"; I guess it could 
still *be* Saturday morning in California. Sorry about that.



Derannimer, not always a very patient person




From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Jul 19 18:30:58 2003
From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:30:58 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Anne" <anneu53714 at s...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tasukibeth/Wufei" 
> <Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:

>> > (2) Jeremy Irons!!! Scary, grizzled, and very intimidating. I 
can 
> > TOTALLY see him growling "Constant Vigilance!"
> 
> I love both of these guys, but Jeremy just seems a tad too suave 
and 
> good-looking for Mad-Eye. > 
> Anne U

Hi. Don't know if you recall but Comic Relief this year did an 
(IMHO) very successful and wicked Harry Potter movie satire.  

Jeremy Irons happened to play everyone's favourite potions master 
with (again IMHO)almost eerie similarity!




From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 19 18:48:13 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:48:13 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody
In-Reply-To: <bfaih8+flab@eGroups.com>
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On the topic of casting Moody, Beth in Sacramento wrote:
> Billy Connelly....hmm, that's a good one. Can he drop the accent 
for the role?> 

Funny, I always imagined Moody with a Scottish accent. He 
says "laddie" a couple of times, and when reading him I always heard 
the voice of the old man who lived down the street from my mum's 
house, who terrified us. But then I've also always imagined Moody as 
Billy Connelly, particularly a rather toned-down reprise of his role 
in the Muppets' version of Treasure Island.

Kirstini




From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Sat Jul 19 19:32:22 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth/Wufei)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:32:22 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...> 
wrote:
> Both McKellan & Lee are too old for Voldemort.  Remember he would 
be about 66 or so.  And for the last 13 years he had been closer to a 
ghost then a human, probably did age that well...

I would have to agree, I always figured Lord thingy to be around 
middle-aged. Lessee, he graduated at age 17ish, and then the Great 
Wizard War went on for 14 years, so that would make him around 31 
when he was vanquished. But then when he was resurrected in GoF, this 
is where the problem may lie. Was he resurrected back into his 31-
year old body (which, I think, would be logical), or did he come back 
in a properly aged body, which would be closer to 45 years old? I 
never took the time to research that; perhaps it is in the lexiocon. 

As for Ian and Christopher, I think Christopher would make a good 
Karkaroff, but the poor man has spent his entire LIFE playing the bad 
guy. I feel a bit bad for him, I wish that just once I could see him 
in a non-evil role. 

Ian is wonderful in anything he does; he could probably play Fleur 
and somehow manage to pull it off :-)

And I will try to visualize Bob Hoskins; I think that the reason I 
have a mental block against him is because the only thing I can 
imagine him in is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" 

LOL, 
Beth




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sat Jul 19 21:50:02 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:50:02 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
In-Reply-To: <bfbnh4+lm12@eGroups.com>
References: <002001c34e06$7992f3f0$35a0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030719164144.00ba0eb0@mail.kriselda.net>

Anne recently mentioned:

>Uhhh... *hides under desk*... what about Sir Ian as Voldemort?? He's
>certainly be playing against type... maybe he'd like to play an Evil
>Overlord after playing Gandalf the Good for several years. It would
>certainly be a change.

I'd really been hoping he'd get Dumbledore.  I love Sir Ian - I've seen 
both of the LOTR installments several times as well as both X-Men, and 
aside from the minor physical resemblance (it's amazing how much a long 
white beard can do to change one's appearance), it's sometimes hard for me 
to remember that Gandalf and Magneto are both the same guy.  He would make 
a great Voldermort, though.  He's definitely got the kind of presence that 
a charismatic leader would need, and he can certainly do evil well :)



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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jul 19 23:25:38 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:25:38 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
In-Reply-To: <bfc6c6+bmur@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfck1i+u9ia@eGroups.com>

Beth, aging Voldemort:
>> I would have to agree, I always figured Lord thingy to be around 
middle-aged. Lessee, he graduated at age 17ish, and then the Great 
Wizard War went on for 14 years, so that would make him around 31 
when he was vanquished. But then when he was resurrected in GoF, 
this  is where the problem may lie. Was he resurrected back into his 
31-year old body (which, I think, would be logical), or did he come 
back in a properly aged body, which would be closer to 45 years old?
>> 

EH? I don't want to go too on-topic, so I'll kick off by saying that 
I think Ian McKellen is the perfect age for Voldemort. The action of 
the diary flashback in CoS takes place in 1942-3, and Riddle (born 
in 1927) leaves Hogwarts in 1945 and disappears for some time. He 
attempts to AK Harry in 1981, when he would be in his mid-fifties, 
and therefore would be pushing seventy by GoF (it's all on the 
Lexicon). Christopher Lee is far too old for Karakoff, though.

On a completely random note - could we see Christian Bale as Barty 
junior?
Kirstini 





From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sun Jul 20 00:10:55 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:10:55 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
In-Reply-To: <bfc6c6+bmur@eGroups.com>
References: <20030719171602.65142.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030719190659.00bc5ec0@mail.kriselda.net>

Tasukibeth/Wufei recently mentioned:

>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...>
>wrote:
> > Both McKellan & Lee are too old for Voldemort.  Remember he would
>be about 66 or so.  And for the last 13 years he had been closer to a
>ghost then a human, probably did age that well...
>
>I would have to agree, I always figured Lord thingy to be around
>middle-aged. Lessee, he graduated at age 17ish,

But remember, from CoS we know that he was a student at Hogwarts 50 years 
ago (the last time the chamber was opened), which means at the time of CoS, 
he was at least 67 years old.  He didn't come straight out of Hogwarts and 
begin the Great Wizard War - there was apparently a number of years during 
which he raised up his following and then started the war.




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From kadede at skynet.be  Sat Jul 19 23:13:41 2003
From: kadede at skynet.be (kadede)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:13:41 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moody and MacDowell
In-Reply-To: <200307191222.h6JCMHnj003651@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <MABBIPIHHCOKMKKOOPPICEFHDMAA.kadede@skynet.be>

When I was reading the book I always pictured Mad Eye as the older sales
man, in "Are you being served ?" I'm sorry I don't know his name, but I'm
talking about the small bald guy behind the counter, not Captain Peacock.
I'm not sure if he's still alive (seeing as Molly Sugden - Ms Slocomb in the
series - is in her mid 80s and he seemed about her age).
Karleen
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Eric Peterson [mailto:eric at toastpoint.com]
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:22 PM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moody and MacDowell


  Beth in Sacrimento posted (and I snipped)

  > Mad-eye is one of my favorite characters, and I have enjoyed skimming
  > the posts to see who looked good to me. For some reason, none of
  > them...felt right to me.
  >
  > Sean Connery - too famous. He would steal the thunder from the rest
  > of the cast.

  Possibly, but he'd be great, and honestly the others are well-enough
established by movie 4 that it wouldn't be a problem.

  > Patrick Stewart - too handsome. Mad-eye can't be the hottest man in
  > the movie, it would just be weird.

  He's my first choice, actually.  It's all about the makeup.  Possible
Voldemort, too. And he's more in the same famous range as Rickman/Smith etc.

  > (1) Malcolm McDowell. He's old enough, he's one of the creepiest men
  > on the planet, amd his career could use a bit of a boost.

  Not as Moody, but DEFINITELY a candidate for Voldemort.

  - Eric


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From kadede at skynet.be  Sat Jul 19 23:52:22 2003
From: kadede at skynet.be (kadede)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:52:22 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] characters for actors
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After reading the posts with possible matches for characters, I tried
thinking of English actors/actrices (I'm Belgian myself) and wanted to find
out the reverse. Would you cast following people in Harry Potter (any film)
and as whom ?

Dougray Scott (from ao Enigma)
John Hannah (Sliding Doors and 4 Weddings & a funeral)
Jennifer Ehle (Pride & Prejudice)
Alison Steadman (Pride & Prejudice)

Would Alison Steadman do as Umbridge ?
Karleen


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From suzloua at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 20 02:19:09 2003
From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:19:09 +0100
Subject: I dream of Moody
Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV73nADeLXMyc0001226a@hotmail.com>

Beth in Sacramento wrote:

Sean Connery - too famous. He would steal the thunder from the rest 
of the cast.

Me:
I dunno, I think Connery would be fantastic. He and Billy Connelly are totally my choices. As for Connelly dropping the accent, I don't think he needs to - after all, Hogwarts is in Scotland. And Connery's Scottish too, and can't do a non-Scottish accent to save his life. Lucky really that his trademark is his sexy voice.

She also thought:
(2) Jeremy Irons!!! Scary, grizzled, and very intimidating. I can 
TOTALLY see him growling "Constant Vigilance!"

Me:
Sorry, I don't see it, for one reason and one reason only - until I see PoA and Thewlis starts to become Lupin in my head, Jeremy Irons is going to continue to be the perfect Lupin for me.

I watched PS and CoS today in a HP mood - makes me yearn for next June even more. Eleven months to go...

Susan
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Jul 20 03:05:20 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:05:20 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Voldemort
Message-ID: <166.2367ffd1.2c4b60f0@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/19/2003 6:00:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> 
> I ran a poll at my own group 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultHPFanatics) with Christopher Lee, 
> Ian Holm, Anthony Hopkins, Ben Kingsley and Gary Oldman (with a 'too 
> bad he's Sirius note).
> 
> I pictured Voldemort as a little man (w/ power issues) so Sir Ben got 
> my vote.
> 
> 

Voldemort is described as being tall, and whoever he is, he should bear some 
resemblance to the actor who played Tom Riddle in build at least -- Ben is 
just too short, IMO.  Christopher Lee, now, he's creepy enough you can imagine 
him EASILY with red snake-like eyes. . . .
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From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 20 04:49:07 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 04:49:07 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tasukibeth/Wufei" 
<Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...> 
> wrote:
> > Both McKellan & Lee are too old for Voldemort.  Remember he would 
> be about 66 or so.  And for the last 13 years he had been closer to 
a 
> ghost then a human, probably did age that well...
> 
> I would have to agree, I always figured Lord thingy to be around 
> middle-aged. Lessee, he graduated at age 17ish, and then the Great 
> Wizard War went on for 14 years, so that would make him around 31 
> when he was vanquished. But then when he was resurrected in GoF, 
this 
> is where the problem may lie. Was he resurrected back into his 31-
> year old body (which, I think, would be logical), or did he come 
back 
> in a properly aged body, which would be closer to 45 years old? I 
> never took the time to research that; perhaps it is in the 
lexiocon. 

Tom Riddle (proto-Voldy) was a student at Hogwarts in the early 
1940s - fifth year in (I think) 1942. So he would have been born in 
approximately 1927. So if he was "resurrected" in 1995, he would have 
been close to 70. That is, unless using "bone of the father, 
unwillingly taken" made him closer to the age of his own father, whom 
he murdered in the mid-1940s. So maybe Renewed!Voldy is younger than 
70. Personally I don't see Voldy as having a specific age... the 
description leans more toward bloodless and snakelike than aged.

> > 
> And I will try to visualize Bob Hoskins; I think that the reason I 
> have a mental block against him is because the only thing I can 
> imagine him in is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" 
> 
> 

Try renting MONA LISA or THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY if you want to see Bob 
Hoskins away from the Roger Rabbit milieu. He also had a major role 
in the recent BBC production of David Copperfield that starred 9 year 
old Daniel Radcliffe as young David.

Anne U
(also check out www.imdb.com to see what else he's been in)





From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Sun Jul 20 05:20:04 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 05:20:04 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "kirst_inn" <kirst_inn at y...> 
wrote:

> EH? I don't want to go too on-topic, so I'll kick off by saying 
that 
> I think Ian McKellen is the perfect age for Voldemort. The action 
of 
> the diary flashback in CoS takes place in 1942-3, and Riddle (born 
> in 1927) leaves Hogwarts in 1945 and disappears for some time. He 
> attempts to AK Harry in 1981, when he would be in his mid-fifties, 
> and therefore would be pushing seventy by GoF (it's all on the 
> Lexicon). Christopher Lee is far too old for Karakoff, though.



Beth replies:
Oops, I'm an idiot!You are absolutely right, Tom Riddle/Lord thingy 
is much older than I was thinking. In my stupid, pre-coffee brain 
this morning, I thought for some reason that he graduated around the 
same time that James and Lily did. But yes, you are right; Ian 
*would* be the perfect age, since Tom was class of '45.




From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Sun Jul 20 05:34:08 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 05:34:08 -0000
Subject: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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Anne wrote:
> Tom Riddle (proto-Voldy) was a student at Hogwarts in the early 
> 1940s - fifth year in (I think) 1942. So he would have been born in 
> approximately 1927. So if he was "resurrected" in 1995, he would 
have 
> been close to 70. That is, unless using "bone of the father, 
> unwillingly taken" made him closer to the age of his own father, 
whom 
> he murdered in the mid-1940s. So maybe Renewed!Voldy is younger 
than 
> 70. Personally I don't see Voldy as having a specific age... the 
> description leans more toward bloodless and snakelike than aged.

I reply: 
You are right, I was not thinking clearly when I posted this morning 
(you'd think I'd never read the books based on how far-off my guess 
was!)guessing Voldy's age. So he could be a powerful old guy, or the 
filmmakers might throw in a twist and make him younger, but as you 
said, virtually unrecognizable so you can't really tell his age.


Then Anne says:

> Try renting MONA LISA or THE LONG GOOD FRIDAY if you want to see 
Bob 
> Hoskins away from the Roger Rabbit milieu. He also had a major role 
> in the recent BBC production of David Copperfield that starred 9 
year old Daniel Radcliffe as young David.


I reply:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will check them out! Unfortunately my 
local videostore is pretty pathetic, and sorely lacking in BBC 
productions. Yet another reason I need to get satellite - so I can 
watch BBC America. 

Beth




From CLShannon at aol.com  Sun Jul 20 06:40:52 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:40:52 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
Message-ID: <b8.44b5d065.2c4b9374@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/19/03 10:52:28 PM, Tasukibeth1 at cs.com writes:

<< Thanks for the suggestions, I will check them out! Unfortunately my 

local videostore is pretty pathetic, and sorely lacking in BBC 

productions. Yet another reason I need to get satellite - so I can 

watch BBC America. >>

BBC's David Copperfield is available to purchase on Amazon.com and it's not 
expensive at all. Seeing Daniel at that age and in that part is well worth the 
cost - he's heartwrenching. Plus it's a very good adaptation of a very good 
book.
Speaking of that production, Trevor Eve plays the evil Mr. Murdstone, the 
stepfather from hell, and I've been trying to figure out a part for him in GOF or 
even OOTP. I always liked him. Also, after watching Zoe Wanamaker play the 
equally evil Miss Murdstone in that, I always thought it was a shame she had 
already played Hooch since she might have made a great Umbridge (makeup and wigs 
do wonders and I am sure if she can transform from Miss Murdstone to Madame 
Hooch, she would have no problem becoming Umbridge).

I've been thinking of other British actors lately and it occurred to me that 
Martin Shaw might make a pretty good Moody - he always had that wild-eyed 
look, in my opinion <g>. And I think he's old enough by now, he's about 58 ;-)  
How old is Moody supposed to be anyway?

Cindy



From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 20 07:12:58 2003
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: BBC's David Copperfield {was} I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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Message-ID: <20030720071258.47145.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>

Tasukibeth1:
> Thanks for the suggestions, I will
> check them out! Unfortunately my  
> local videostore is pretty pathetic,
> and sorely lacking in BBC  
> productions. Yet another reason I
> need to get satellite - so I can  
> watch BBC America.

Have you checked your local library's 
collection?  Even if you've no luck 
there, your librarian may be able to 
help you track down a copy since some 
library systems cooperate with each 
other in sharing their items.

Petra
a
n  :)

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From eric at toastpoint.com  Sun Jul 20 11:26:54 2003
From: eric at toastpoint.com (Eric Peterson)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:26:54 -0400
Subject: Are You Being Served
Message-ID: <200307201126.h6KBQsnj002573@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com>


> When I was reading the book I always pictured Mad Eye as the older sales
> man, in "Are you being served ?" I'm sorry I don't know his name, but I'm
> talking about the small bald guy behind the counter, not Captain Peacock.
> I'm not sure if he's still alive (seeing as Molly Sugden - Ms Slocomb in the
> series - is in her mid 80s and he seemed about her age).
> Karleen

I had to read that a couple of times before realizing you were talking about Mr. Granger.  At first I thought you met Mr. Humphries and then my brain locked up...

"Alastor, are you free?"
"I'm free!"

Although John Inman could be Dedalus Diggle, or whoever that wizard is who wears the purple outfits. :)

 - Eric




From kadede at skynet.be  Sun Jul 20 11:53:46 2003
From: kadede at skynet.be (kadede)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:53:46 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Are You Being Served
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LOL I hadn't thought of that. It was only yesterday I realised that I knew
'my Moody' from "Are you being served".  The 'Are you free?' brings back
some amusing memories, though.
Karleen

 -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Peterson [mailto:eric at toastpoint.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:27 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Are You Being Served



  > When I was reading the book I always pictured Mad Eye as the older sales
  > man, in "Are you being served ?" I'm sorry I don't know his name, but
I'm
  > talking about the small bald guy behind the counter, not Captain
Peacock.
  > I'm not sure if he's still alive (seeing as Molly Sugden - Ms Slocomb in
the
  > series - is in her mid 80s and he seemed about her age).
  > Karleen

  I had to read that a couple of times before realizing you were talking
about Mr. Granger.  At first I thought you met Mr. Humphries and then my
brain locked up...

  "Alastor, are you free?"
  "I'm free!"

  Although John Inman could be Dedalus Diggle, or whoever that wizard is who
wears the purple outfits. :)

  - Eric


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From manda at qx.net  Sun Jul 20 16:19:26 2003
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:19:26 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] BBC's David Copperfield {was} I dream of Moody/ Kingsley
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On 20 Jul 2003 at 0:12, Petra Pan wrote:

> Tasukibeth1:
> > Thanks for the suggestions, I will
> > check them out! Unfortunately my  
> > local videostore is pretty pathetic,
> > and sorely lacking in BBC  
> > productions. Yet another reason I
> > need to get satellite - so I can  
> > watch BBC America.
> 
> Have you checked your local library's 
> collection?  Even if you've no luck 
> there, your librarian may be able to 
> help you track down a copy since some 
> library systems cooperate with each 
> other in sharing their items.

And then there's always all the various online DVD rental sites. Netflix has the biggest selection and it's extremely easy to find codes for a free 2 week trial.

Manda
--
http://www.mandamia.com



From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 20 13:34:24 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:34:24 -0000
Subject: Voldemort
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
*******
Lynda wrote:
"Voldemort is described as being tall, and whoever he is, he should 
bear some resemblance to the actor who played Tom Riddle in build at 
least -- Ben is just too short, IMO.  Christopher Lee, now, he's 
creepy enough you can imagine him EASILY with red snake-like 
eyes. . . ."

*******

I agree with you, Lynda - actually, we do get *some* idea of 
Voldemort's cinematic face (reasonably accurate to his eventual 
reappearance, IMO) at the end of PS/SS, on the other side of Ian 
Hart's head. I agree with the being tall business however whoever 
gets chosen to be the re-constituted Voldemort in GoF will 
undoubtedly be wearing a fair bit of facial prosthetics in order to 
attain the "slit like nose" and the serpentine appearance, making 
their everyday physical appearance somewhat less relevant. 

What is critical however, is finding the performer who can project 
the one physical feature of Voldemort's physical state that is 
stated repeatedly throughout the entire series - I refer to his 
*voice* of course, which is consistently, "high and 
cold", "chilling", "like ice".. you get the idea. Christopher Lee 
would be very good though I suspect that he wouldn't want to do it 
for the cash (what with the other pies he's got his fingers 
in)...alternatively of course, my own (humble) suggestion for the 
*most* Ever-So-Evil Slytherin to emerge from Hogwarts, Richard E 
Grant would fit all requirements to a tee - though if JKR decided 
that Voldemort was going to restore himself to his handsome young 16-
year-old self through further "facial-enhancement" magic in the 
remaining books, I for one, wouldn't exactly complain ;-) 

Sara ELL (all in favour with resurrecting Jonathan Firth's career by 
making him Barty Crouch Jnr. GoF)




From suzloua at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 20 17:58:50 2003
From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:58:50 +0100
Subject: Moody and MacDowell
Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV19FdEC9zKl4000139f0@hotmail.com>

Karleen wrote:
When I was reading the book I always pictured Mad Eye as the older sales
man, in "Are you being served ?" I'm sorry I don't know his name, but I'm
talking about the small bald guy behind the counter, not Captain Peacock.
I'm not sure if he's still alive (seeing as Molly Sugden - Ms Slocomb in the
series - is in her mid 80s and he seemed about her age).

And I reply through the giggles:
Please tell me you don't mean John Inman. I'm really not taking the piss out of you, but John Inman??? Really???? The campest man who ever lived as Mad-Eye Moody!? Every adult in the audience who used to watch Are You Being Served would wet their pants, I definitely couldn't take him seriously.

Screw it, let's get Graham Norton to play Cedric.

Susan
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From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 20 19:33:34 2003
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:33:34 -0000
Subject: Voldemort
In-Reply-To: <166.2367ffd1.2c4b60f0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfeqqe+r0ei@eGroups.com>

> Voldemort is described as being tall, and whoever he is, he should 
bear some 
> resemblance to the actor who played Tom Riddle in build at least -- 
Ben is 
> just too short, IMO.  Christopher Lee, now, he's creepy enough you 
can imagine 
> him EASILY with red snake-like eyes. . . .
> Lynda Sappington

*****************
I might have missed that part about Voldy being tall.  Could you 
point me to it?




From jrobinson at crescentmoon.org.uk  Sun Jul 20 20:40:33 2003
From: jrobinson at crescentmoon.org.uk (Jeremy Robinson)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:40:33 +0000
Subject: phoenix rising
Message-ID: <3F1AFE41.43FDDB18@crescentmoon.org.uk>

First thoughts on 'Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'.

Two great opening set-pieces: the Dementor attack and the wizard escort to London.

The book seemed to slow down too much in the Grimmauld Place chapters. Mrs
Weasley got incredibly tiresome with her continual shouting and screaming. And
Harry's restless anger was became tedious. Rowling seemed to be trying for a
'darker', more 'rebellious' Harry, a misunderstood, hormonal teenager, but the
repetitive outbursts of rage didn't build up to something greater. However, in
the 2nd half of the novel, Harry's characterization was tremendously
effective. 
The themes of 'tragedy' and 'darkness' which Rowling was striving for came out
much stronger in the scenes of Mr Weasley in hospital, and Sirius's death. And
Neville's insane parents in the hospital were, in a way, the most disturbing
image in the book (the narrator underlines this: 'Neville looked around at the
others, his expression defiant, as though daring them to laugh, but Harry did
not think he'd ever found anything less funny in his life'). Mental illness is
perhaps more of a taboo in contemporary popular culture (in films and books)
than violence or death. Rowling handles it really sensitively (like the touch
of having Neville save a candy wrapper his mother's given him). 

When the action moved to Hogwarts, as so often in a 'Harry Potter' book, 'The
Order of the Phoenix' moved into a far more satisfying realm. 

The idea of Harry teaching a Dark Arts club was genius. 

Professor Umbridge was a fabulous villain and hate figure - the school
inspector from Hell. (Pam Ferris, who's in 'Matilda', would be great in the
film of the book). But a close second to Umbridge as a loathsome villain is
the psychopathic witch Bellatrix. 

Rowling didn't seem to know exactly what to do with Sirius (or Lupin). Sirius
was stranded at Grimmauld Place for most of the novel. True, the reasons given
for Black's hiding came from no less than the chief authority in the 'Harry
Potter' series - Dumbledore - but Black could've been more than just a link
with Harry's past, and his father. Somehow, one thought that Black would be
more than another distant father figure for Harry. 
In the same way, although Dumbledore's absence for much of the book was also
part of the plot, one missed his presence (partly because the relationship
between Harry and Dumbledore forms the core of the 'Harry Potter' series). 

Trelawney playing such a prominent role in the central plot (with her prophecy
about Harry and Voldemort) was a surprise - especially after Rowling had so
ruthlessly satirized Trelawney, astrology and divination in earlier books. 

The cute Cho and Harry scenes (the first kiss, the Valentine's Day date) were
great. Just as amusing were the debriefings afterwards, with Hermione coolly
pointing out everything Harry did wrong. 



Other great bits:


The wizards in the paintings in Dumbledore's office. 

Hagrid's story of meeting the giants.

Ron at the quidditch match. 

Ron's outbursts over Ginny's boyfriends. 

The twins' triumphant broomstick exit from Hogwarts ('I think we've outgrown
full-time education'). That scene's a powerful wish-fulfilment fantasy for
kids who want to escape the deadening authoritarian regime of school. 

The new locations, particularly the hospital and the Ministry of Magic. 

The new characters, particularly Tonks, Umbridge and Lovegood. 

Dumbledore very very coolly running verbal rings around any antagonist,
particularly Fudge and Umbridge. It was a great touch having Dumbledore acting
supremely calmly in the climactic battle: '...continuing to walk towards
Voldemort as though he had not a fear in the world, as though nothing had
happened to interrupt his stroll up the hall'. 

---

The confrontation between Harry and Snape during the Occulumency lessons was
wonderful, some of Rowling's best dialogue (Rowling always writes great scenes
when they feature Snape). And Snape still remained a darkly ambiguous figure,
with all sorts of hints at his role in the final books. 

The climactic rescue mission was marvellous, with many highpoints, including
the wizard duels, the chase through the Dept of Mysteries, and Dumbledore's
stand-off with Voldemort (a scene readers have been waiting for since book
one). 

The introduction of Neville as a major character was marvellous, including his
tragic past and parents which mirror Harry's experience. And taking Neville
right to the end of the climax at the Ministry of Magic, beyond the points
where Hermione and Ron were involved, was another welcome surprise. Neville's
the new hero of the 'Harry Potter' books, especially in the final scenes. 
Since the first book, though (where Neville played a larger part than in the
film), Neville's been a significant character: in Harry's very first try-out
on a broomstick, in 'Philosopher's Stone', he saves Neville's remembrall from
Malfoy - a seemingly trivial act which embodies many of the confrontations of
the 'Harry Potter' series (good vs. evil, Gryffindor vs. Syltherin, a battle
over a magical object, Harry vs. the son of a Death-eater and follower of
Voldemort). Four books later, Harry and Neville are pitted against another
Malfoy -  Lucius - who, at the end of 'The Order of the Phoenix', leads an
attack of Death-eaters on the group. 
Neville also ties in with Dumbledore's pronouncement to Voldemort, a few
minutes after that chase and attack: the Dark Lord's convinced there's
'nothing worse than death', but Dumbledore replies there is. In Rowling's
universe, one thing worse than death would be living without love (love being
the one thing Voldemort keeps under-estimating). But another thing worse than
death would be having both your parents turned insane, which happens to
Neville's folks. In a way, the living death Neville's parents endure is even
worse a fate than that of Harry's parents. At least the Potters died
instantly, but Neville's parents are faced with forty years of mental illness. 

Frustrating that audiences'll have to wait until at least 2006 or 2007 to see
the movie of 'The Order of the Phoenix'. 
It'd be great if Warners recut the 'Harry Potter' films into an epic TV series
some time, putting back every deleted scene and shooting extra material.
There're lots of cool bits in every 'Harry Potter' book that haven't made it
to the screen yet.



From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 20 21:36:27 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] phoenix rising
In-Reply-To: <3F1AFE41.43FDDB18@crescentmoon.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20030720213627.99170.qmail@web14509.mail.yahoo.com>

Wonderful Recap jeremy!  Thanks for a nice Sunday Read.  You have given voice to why there are many fans of harry potter out there.




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From kadede at skynet.be  Sun Jul 20 23:00:11 2003
From: kadede at skynet.be (kadede)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:00:11 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] RE: Moody and MacDowell
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV19FdEC9zKl4000139f0@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <MABBIPIHHCOKMKKOOPPIOEJBDMAA.kadede@skynet.be>

LOL No there were two other ones, a youngish one and the older gentleman,
and I meant Mr Granger (sorry don't know his real name) the actor must be in
his eighties by now.
Karleen
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Susan Atherton [mailto:suzloua at hotmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:59 PM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] RE: Moody and MacDowell


  Karleen wrote:
  When I was reading the book I always pictured Mad Eye as the older sales
  man, in "Are you being served ?" I'm sorry I don't know his name, but I'm
  talking about the small bald guy behind the counter, not Captain Peacock.
  I'm not sure if he's still alive (seeing as Molly Sugden - Ms Slocomb in
the
  series - is in her mid 80s and he seemed about her age).

  And I reply through the giggles:
  Please tell me you don't mean John Inman. I'm really not taking the piss
out of you, but John Inman??? Really???? The campest man who ever lived as
Mad-Eye Moody!? Every adult in the audience who used to watch Are You Being
Served would wet their pants, I definitely couldn't take him seriously.

  Screw it, let's get Graham Norton to play Cedric.



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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 21 04:54:08 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:54:08 -0000
Subject: Hart's head, Voldy's voice(Was: Voldemort)
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Message-ID: <bffrlg+n9su@eGroups.com>

I am very sure that this one *must* havve come up at some point on 
here, so apologies for boring you all s*itless (playing with my swear 
words). Here you go:
Has anyone noticed that the part of Voldemort in The Movie That Can 
Be Named On This List 1 is played by Ian Hart in addition to his 
Quirreling antics? I'm getting a terribly James Earl Jones vibe about 
the whole thing. 
Kirstini, worrying about various apsets.




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Mon Jul 21 09:03:48 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:03:48 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Hart's head, Voldy's voice(Was: Voldemort)
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kirst_inn recently mentioned:

>I am very sure that this one *must* havve come up at some point on
>here, so apologies for boring you all s*itless (playing with my swear
>words). Here you go:
>Has anyone noticed that the part of Voldemort in The Movie That Can
>Be Named On This List 1 is played by Ian Hart in addition to his
>Quirreling antics? I'm getting a terribly James Earl Jones vibe about
>the whole thing.

I always got the feeling that was because he provided the voice for the 
face on the back of his head, and because he was, in a way, playing 
Voldermort - technically Voldermort-controlling-Quirrel, but that doesn't 
mean he has to have anything to do with playing Voldermort in later films, 
because he will have a totally different body by then, and, by extension, 
different vocal chords, so he won't even have to sound the same.



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From Joanne0012 at aol.com  Mon Jul 21 13:18:40 2003
From: Joanne0012 at aol.com (joanne0012)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:18:40 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfc16u+uomu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfgp7g+3b3j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" <susannahlm at y...> 
wrote:
 it's a shame these films weren't being made, say, twenty 
> years ago. I recently rewatched _The Manchurian Candidate_, and Angela 
Lansbury 
> could, I think, have made one *mean* Dolores Umbridge. 
> 
> (To all those people out there who say "Huh? Angela Lansbury? That nice 
old lady?" I 
> suggest you watch _The Manchurian Candidate_.)
> 

Ms. Lansbury has already done the witch-role thing, having starred in 
"Bedknobs and Broomsticks!"  




From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul 21 14:09:18 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:09:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Voldemort
Message-ID: <132.225a2ba5.2c4d4e0e@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/21/2003 6:28:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> >Voldemort is described as being tall, and whoever he is, he should 
> bear some 
> >resemblance to the actor who played Tom Riddle in build at least -- 
> Ben is 
> >just too short, IMO.  Christopher Lee, now, he's creepy enough you 
> can imagine 
> >him EASILY with red snake-like eyes. . . .
> >Lynda Sappington
> 
> *****************
> I might have missed that part about Voldy being tall.  Could you 
> point me to it?
> 
> Marci
> 
"Goblet of Fire" page 643 (American edition):  "But then, through the mist in 
front of him, he saw, with an icy surge of terror, the dark outline of a man, 
tall and skeletally thin, rising slowly from inside the cauldron."  That's 
Voldemort reborn.  The "skeletally thin" part also reminded me of Christopher 
Lee, who looks like that in LotR.

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From tmarends at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 17:03:24 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:03:24 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfc16u+uomu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfh6cs+or3a@eGroups.com>

Do you think Angela Landsbury is too old to play the part now??

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" <susannahlm at y...> 
wrote:
> Come on, people! Was anybody here at the Comicon thing? And if 
so. . . *well*?
> 
> Oh, and on a different note; it's a shame these films weren't being 
made, say, twenty 
> years ago. I recently rewatched _The Manchurian Candidate_, and 
Angela Lansbury 
> could, I think, have made one *mean* Dolores Umbridge. 
> 
> (To all those people out there who say "Huh? Angela Lansbury? That 
nice old lady?" I 
> suggest you watch _The Manchurian Candidate_.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Derannimer




From tmarends at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 17:11:51 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:11:51 -0000
Subject: phoenix rising
In-Reply-To: <3F1AFE41.43FDDB18@crescentmoon.org.uk>
Message-ID: <bfh6sn+n5lv@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Robinson <jrobinson at c...> 
wrote:
> 
> Professor Umbridge was a fabulous villain and hate figure - the 
school
> inspector from Hell. (Pam Ferris, who's in 'Matilda', would be 
great in the
> film of the book). But a close second to Umbridge as a loathsome 
villain is
> the psychopathic witch Bellatrix. 
> 

I thought Pam Ferris was currently playing Aunt Marge...




From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 19:39:47 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: phoenix rising
In-Reply-To: <bfh6sn+n5lv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030721193947.51897.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com>

She certainly is playing Aunt Marge.  But then again, Warwick Davis plays Flitwick and the Gringott's Goblin

Tim <tmarends at yahoo.com> wrote:--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Robinson <jrobinson at c...> 
wrote:
> 
> Professor Umbridge was a fabulous villain and hate figure - the 
school
> inspector from Hell. (Pam Ferris, who's in 'Matilda', would be 
great in the
> film of the book). But a close second to Umbridge as a loathsome 
villain is
> the psychopathic witch Bellatrix. 
> 

I thought Pam Ferris was currently playing Aunt Marge...


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From kechelsen at aol.com  Mon Jul 21 20:30:50 2003
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:30:50 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfgp7g+3b3j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfhihq+g6po@eGroups.com>

<<--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at a...> 
wrote:

Ms. Lansbury has already done the witch-role thing, having starred in 
"Bedknobs and Broomsticks!">>

So? Why couldn't she do another witch role?  The character in 
Bedknobs and Broomsticks was an "apprentice" witch, and she was a 
good character to boot.  Based on Ms. Lansbury's performance in the 
Manchurian Candidate, the other poster seems to think that she could 
do an excellent job playing a "bad witch."  I haven't seen that film 
so I can't judge, but having her play Umbridge would be quite a twist 
for her, especially after all those years as Jessica Fletcher.
 :)




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 21:33:12 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:33:12 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfgp7g+3b3j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfhm6o+evlm@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joanne0012" <Joanne0012 at a...> 
wrote:
Ms. Lansbury has already done the witch-role thing, having starred 
in 
> "Bedknobs and Broomsticks!"

Me: I think she'd make a great Umbridge based on her charactor in 
The Manchurian Candidate (1962), but she may be too old from my 
version of her.


Here is her bio http://www.imdb.com/Name?Lansbury,+Angela






From artmaiden28 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 20:58:58 2003
From: artmaiden28 at yahoo.com (artmaiden28)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:58:58 -0000
Subject: POA Movie
Message-ID: <bfhk6i+887c@eGroups.com>

Hello all! I found some info and pictures taken during filming of
POA.
http://movies.go.com/movies/H/harrypotterandtheprisonerofazkaban_2003/
index.html

It is under "Upcoming" on movies.go.com website.

I found the pic of Michael Gambon to be quite intriguing. It looks
promising. Although I really like him, I don't think I will be 
convinced
he is Dumbledore until I see him in the part.

And the pics of the Knight bus are great. 

The Dementors pic looks right on, but the note about it possibly 
being a
fake destroys its legitimacy. I understand the concern about it, but 
it
seems that no matter what they end of looking like in the movie they 
are
going to be compared to the ringwraiths anyway.

But it is great to finally see some pics. Has anyone seen the trailer?





From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 21 22:04:30 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:04:30 -0000
Subject: POA Movie
In-Reply-To: <bfhk6i+887c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfho1e+s33b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "artmaiden28" <artmaiden28 at y...> 
wrote:

> But it is great to finally see some pics. Has anyone seen the 
trailer?


The trailer hasn't been released yet. It's suppose to be shown with 
the Looney Tunes movie in Nov from what I've heard.




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 22 02:43:18 2003
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:43:18 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfhm6o+evlm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfi8c6+5lji@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
<harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
> Me: I think she'd (Ms. Lansbury) make a great Umbridge based on her 
charactor in 
> The Manchurian Candidate (1962), but she may be too old from my 
> version of her.

I had the great pleasure of being in the third row when Ms. Lansbury 
performed with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir two years ago.  Her 
performance was wonderful, but I do think she might be a bit old to 
portray Umbridge.  She certainly has it in her, though; anyone out 
there a Sweeney Todd fan?

imamommy




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 14:52:55 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:52:55 -0000
Subject: My idea for Moody
Message-ID: <bfjj47+am6o@eGroups.com>

O.K., this might sound a bit out there, but I've just thought of 
Edward Woodward as Moody. The picture of Moody that I have in my mind 
is one of a middle-aged/senior mad, around 5ft 8-10 in, white hair 
and a bit overweight. Can anyone else see my vision?

Fan




From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 16:53:19 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:53:19 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty Please?
Message-ID: <bfjq5v+c7qb@eGroups.com>

imamommy wrote:

> I had the great pleasure of being in the third row when Ms.        
> Lansbury performed with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir two     
> years ago. Her performance was wonderful, but I do think she 
> might be a bit old to portray Umbridge. She certainly has it in    
> her, though; anyone out there a Sweeney Todd fan?

Er. Well, define "fan." : )

She is dead brilliant as Mrs. Lovett, though. I agree that she's 
probably too old to play Umbridge; although they are playing 
havoc with all the other adult characters' ages. . . 



Derannimer





From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Tue Jul 22 19:30:57 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:30:57 -0000
Subject: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
Message-ID: <bfk3dh+n5nk@eGroups.com>

I found some legitimate Azkaban pictures here, including a very nice 
picture of Michael Gambon:
http://www.digicasey.com/MovieMagicB.html

And here is a totally fake (in my opinion!!) Sirius Poster. 
http://darkmark.com/galleries/details.php?image_id=2936
I think it's fake because (a) the dreadlocks he's sporting look 
awfully similar to the ones he wore in his movie "True Romance",  (b) 
because Sirius doesn't have facial haie as far as I know, and (c) 
because if the poster were real, it would probably be on the official 
HP movie website. Oh well, it's still fun to look at.

And I think that dementor picture could very possibly be legitimate, 
but I guess we won't know until later.

I am scared that Trelawny may have indeed been cut from the film, I 
say so because I have combed countless websites and they just don't 
mention her at ALL - I mean, they take the time to mention that Sir 
Cadogan will be played by such-and-such, but they don't mention 
Trelawny?!!? I'm getting bummed out by this, because I dig her :-(

Beth in Sacramento




From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 19:45:27 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:45:27 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
Message-ID: <126.2ddfbaf4.2c4eee57@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/22/03 12:32:59 PM, Tasukibeth1 at cs.com writes:

<< I found some legitimate Azkaban pictures here, including a very nice 

picture of Michael Gambon:

http://www.digicasey.com/MovieMagicB.html


And here is a totally fake (in my opinion!!) Sirius Poster. 

http://darkmark.com/galleries/details.php?image_id=2936

I think it's fake because (a) the dreadlocks he's sporting look 

awfully similar to the ones he wore in his movie "True Romance",  (b) 

because Sirius doesn't have facial haie as far as I know, and (c) 

because if the poster were real, it would probably be on the official 

HP movie website. Oh well, it's still fun to look at.


And I think that dementor picture could very possibly be legitimate, 

but I guess we won't know until later. >>

You know, I bought that Movie Magic magazine and when I saw that pic of 
Dumbledore, I figured they got the caption wrong - the caption says it's Richard 
Harris, but the pic in costume sure doesn't look Harris to me ;-) So it must be 
Gambon in full costume, although that is the only pic we've seen so far and no 
one seems to have picked up on it. I wondered about this - perhaps everyone 
thinks it is Harris, like the caption says, but it sure looks like Gambon to me 
<g>.

As for the posters, any posters of POA, they are all fake, made by fans. The 
official poster is a long way off since the film isn't even finished shooting 
;-)
Also, it has long been established that the dementor pic is a fake. There 
have been no pics of dementors released from WB, if indeed they have even been 
created. They may be something done in post-production entirely ;-)
Cindy



From kechelsen at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 20:58:06 2003
From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:58:06 -0000
Subject: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
In-Reply-To: <126.2ddfbaf4.2c4eee57@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfk8gu+282o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
>> You know, I bought that Movie Magic magazine and when I saw that 
pic of Dumbledore, I figured they got the caption wrong - the caption 
says it's Richard Harris, but the pic in costume sure doesn't look 
Harris to me ;-) So it must be Gambon in full costume, although that 
is the only pic we've seen so far and no one seems to have picked up 
on it. I wondered about this - perhaps everyone  thinks it is Harris, 
like the caption says, but it sure looks like Gambon to me <g>.>>

It IS Richard Harris.  I remember seeing that picture in a few 
magazines when the first film came out.  

Kathy




From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Tue Jul 22 21:02:11 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:02:11 -0000
Subject: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
In-Reply-To: <126.2ddfbaf4.2c4eee57@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfk8oj+ep1u@eGroups.com>

Cindy:
Also, it has long been established that the dementor pic is a fake. 
There have been no pics of dementors released from WB, if indeed they 
have even been created. They may be something done in post-production 
entirely ;-)


Me:
Aw, shucks. I thought they looked really cool! Oh, well. I am so 
impatient! How sad is that, a grown adult getting this buggy over a 
children's movie.

Beth





From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Tue Jul 22 21:07:49 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:07:49 -0000
Subject: Okay, never mind (Dumbledore)
Message-ID: <bfk935+okd5@eGroups.com>

I think it really looks like Gambon, which is why I pointed it out in 
the first place, but I have been told that the picture I mentioned 
earlier really is Richard Harris. It just doesn't LOOK like Richard 
to me, but it could just be a wonky picture. Sorry for the small 
panic I night have caused :-)

B in S




From alexandra200260714 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 21:13:38 2003
From: alexandra200260714 at yahoo.com (Alexandra)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:13:38 -0000
Subject: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
In-Reply-To: <126.2ddfbaf4.2c4eee57@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:

> As for the posters, any posters of POA, they are all fake, made by 
fans. The 
> official poster is a long way off since the film isn't even 
finished shooting 
> ;-)

Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 
finished in June, but apparently not.

The Shrieking Shack scene was shot in June, that I'm pretty sure of.  
I just hope they didn't cut Snape's role down.

A.




From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Tue Jul 22 21:31:57 2003
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:31:57 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
In-Reply-To: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>
References: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F1DAD4D.9060409@kingwoodcable.com>

Alexandra wrote:

>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
>
>  
>
>>As for the posters, any posters of POA, they are all fake, made by 
>>    
>>
>fans. The 
>  
>
>>official poster is a long way off since the film isn't even 
>>    
>>
>finished shooting 
>  
>
>>;-)
>>    
>>
>
>Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 
>finished in June, but apparently not.
>
>The Shrieking Shack scene was shot in June, that I'm pretty sure of.  
>I just hope they didn't cut Snape's role down.
>

I certainly don't want to see Snape cut out into a oblivian, but if they 
only keep a few scenes I hope they keep Snape dressed up like Gran.

-Katze





From glcherry at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 22 23:28:59 2003
From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (glcherry at bellsouth.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:28:59 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
References: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F1DC8BB.2000300@bellsouth.net>

They must have finished a great deal. Wasn't a preview trailer for it 
supposed to have been shown at Comic Con in San Diego this past weekend?
Did anyone on this list attend? Am I going to have to call friends in 
CA. who *might* have attended to find out? :)
Lorrie

Alexandra wrote:

>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
>
>  
>
>>As for the posters, any posters of POA, they are all fake, made by 
>>    
>>
>fans. The 
>  
>
>>official poster is a long way off since the film isn't even 
>>    
>>
>finished shooting 
>  
>
>>;-)
>>    
>>
>
>Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 
>finished in June, but apparently not.
>
>The Shrieking Shack scene was shot in June, that I'm pretty sure of.  
>I just hope they didn't cut Snape's role down.
>
>A.
>
>
>
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From jdumas at kingwoodcable.com  Tue Jul 22 21:34:32 2003
From: jdumas at kingwoodcable.com (Katze)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:34:32 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Okay, never mind (Dumbledore)
In-Reply-To: <bfk935+okd5@eGroups.com>
References: <bfk935+okd5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F1DADE8.4030100@kingwoodcable.com>

Beth in Sacramento wrote:

>I think it really looks like Gambon, which is why I pointed it out in 
>the first place, but I have been told that the picture I mentioned 
>earlier really is Richard Harris. It just doesn't LOOK like Richard 
>to me, but it could just be a wonky picture. Sorry for the small 
>panic I night have caused :-)
>
>B in S
>  
>

I think it's a modified picture. The original picture is of Richard 
Harris, but it looks like they super imposed Gambon's face on top.

Here's the original Harris picture: 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/pictures/galleries/newsid_1630000/1630515.stm

The faces are different between the two, but everything else is identical.

-Katze





From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 21:47:28 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:47:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Okay, never mind (Dumbledore)
Message-ID: <7b.15dec18c.2c4f0af0@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/22/03 2:13:06 PM, Tasukibeth1 at cs.com writes:

<< I think it really looks like Gambon, which is why I pointed it out in 

the first place, but I have been told that the picture I mentioned 

earlier really is Richard Harris. It just doesn't LOOK like Richard 

to me, but it could just be a wonky picture. Sorry for the small 

panic I night have caused :-) >>

Oh, I agree, I just can't see Harris in that pic! Must be our eyes ;-)
But like someone else said, I guess it is, maybe it is a 'wonky picture' ;-)
Cindy



From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 21:49:06 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:49:06 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
Message-ID: <54.15f1260d.2c4f0b52@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/22/03 2:21:22 PM, alexandra200260714 at yahoo.com writes:

<< Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 

finished in June, but apparently not. >>

The latest I read is that Daniel is celebrating his birthday tomorrow on the 
set, so they are still filming at Leavesdon. The finished the filming in 
Scotland a while ago. I have no idea how much longer it is to go on though ;-)
Cindy



From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 21:52:47 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:52:47 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
Message-ID: <1d1.e2be015.2c4f0c2f@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/22/03 2:36:55 PM, glcherry at bellsouth.net writes:

<< They must have finished a great deal. Wasn't a preview trailer for it 
supposed to have been shown at Comic Con in San Diego this past weekend?
Did anyone on this list attend? Am I going to have to call friends in 
CA. who *might* have attended to find out? :) >>

If you go to danradcliffe.com, you can see a mini report on the presentation. 
It wasn't the trailer, it was a video interview with Daniel Radcliffe and 
Alfonso Cuaron. Quidditch was mentioned in that Alfonso said that Dan was having 
a bit of trouble with it this time and Dan concurred ;-) I wonder if it was 
because of the effects of the lightning, etc. <g>
The trailer is supposed to be unveiled during the showing of the new Looney 
Tunes live-action/animated movie that comes out in November.
Also, for all up to date news, go to http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/
They always have up the minute news on the books, the movies, etc.
Cindy



From shawn_stang at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 22 21:31:07 2003
From: shawn_stang at yahoo.com (stellainspring)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:31:07 -0000
Subject: Sirius/Padfoot
In-Reply-To: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfkaer+n1ri@eGroups.com>

I have a question that I hope someone out there can answer for me. 
I've recently seen a photo of Dan Radcliffe with a Husky, can you 
tell me if this is his pet, or have they changed the look of Padfoot 
for POA?
If this has already been discussed on this thread I'm sorry for 
bringing it up again. I've looked everywhere for the answer & can't 
find it.

-- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Alexandra" 
<alexandra200260714 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
> 
> > As for the posters, any posters of POA, they are all fake, made 
by 
> fans. The 
> > official poster is a long way off since the film isn't even 
> finished shooting 
> > ;-)
> 
> Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 
> finished in June, but apparently not.
> 
> The Shrieking Shack scene was shot in June, that I'm pretty sure 
of.  
> I just hope they didn't cut Snape's role down.
> 
> A.




From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 22 22:17:51 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:17:51 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius/Padfoot
Message-ID: <1c2.cd7b29a.2c4f120f@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/22/03 3:02:27 PM, shawn_stang at yahoo.com writes:

<< I have a question that I hope someone out there can answer for me. 

I've recently seen a photo of Dan Radcliffe with a Husky, can you 

tell me if this is his pet, or have they changed the look of Padfoot 

for POA? >>

No, those aren't his dogs, those are studio shots. I believe his dogs are 
border collies.

Cindy



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Jul 22 22:51:46 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:51:46 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!/ Sirius/Padfoot
References: <bfk9e2+cn3u@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005c01c350a3$d512b450$df9ecdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Alexandra wrote:

> Does anyone know when the shoot will finish?  I had thought it 
> finished in June, but apparently not.

They finished the filming they were doing in Scotland in June.  Not all the filming.  There's still a good bit to do in the studio, I'm sure.  I heard somewhere (Leaky Cauldron?  Mugglenet?) that there was a half way part about a month ago, so I'd say it's still another 3 to 4 months of filming.  I should imagine most of the complicated sfx stuff is done by now to give sfx people time to work.

Stellainspring wrote:

> I have a question that I hope someone out there can answer for me. 
> I've recently seen a photo of Dan Radcliffe with a Husky, can you 
> tell me if this is his pet, or have they changed the look of Padfoot 
> for POA?

Those pictures were done a couple of years ago in a photo shoot.  The magazine people had heard Daniel liked dogs, so they brought along a dog for him to play with.  

Richelle


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From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 00:25:32 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:25:32 -0000
Subject: Picture of Sirius...
Message-ID: <bfkkls+gs39@eGroups.com>

go to HPANA.com & see a picture of Gary Oldman as Sirius, its really 
good except for the tattoos!!!!!

Fan




From joj at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jul 23 01:57:44 2003
From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:57:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Picture of Sirius...
References: <bfkkls+gs39@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001601c350bd$cef2b740$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w>

Very cool!  Is he wearing glasses or are his eyes just blackened?

Alan Rickman looks so un-Snape like!  

Joann (Hi!  I'm new!)


  go to HPANA.com & see a picture of Gary Oldman as Sirius, its really 
  good except for the tattoos!!!!!

  Fan


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From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 23 02:49:50 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:49:50 -0000
Subject: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!
In-Reply-To: <bfk3dh+n5nk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfkt4e+btjs@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Beth in Sacramento" wrote:
<> And I think that dementor picture could very possibly be 
legitimate, 
> but I guess we won't know until later.
> 

actually, I am pretty sure the "dementors picture" was debunked on 
this very list. It's actually a still of the Nazguls (Ring Wraiths) 
swiped from one of the Lord of the Rings movies.

Anne U
(who enjoyed the photo of Rupert, Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman on The 
Leaky Cauldron and who hopes young Mr. Radcliffe has a wonderful 14th 
birthday Wednesday)




From manda at qx.net  Wed Jul 23 10:07:21 2003
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 03:07:21 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Picture of Sirius...
In-Reply-To: <bfkkls+gs39@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F1DFBE9.24796.17540F@localhost>

On 23 Jul 2003 at 0:25, harrysfannyc wrote:

> go to HPANA.com & see a picture of Gary Oldman as Sirius, its really
> good except for the tattoos!!!!!

The Leaky Cauldron has it now as well which is good since HPANA is more down than up for me these days. 

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/07/ronandsirius.jpg

It looks like Sirius is still wearing his striped prison garb. And maybe it's just because I'm listening to a David Bowie CD now, but Rupert looks very 70s there. Heheh. A very 
interesting picture.

Manda
--
http://www.mandamia.com



From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 10:33:43 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:33:43 -0000
Subject: Picture of Sirius...
In-Reply-To: <3F1DFBE9.24796.17540F@localhost>
Message-ID: <bfloa7+d2i3@eGroups.com>

Manda wrote:

> The Leaky Cauldron has it now as well which is good since HPANA is 
>more down than up for me these days. 
 http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/07/ronandsirius.jpg
>It looks like Sirius is still wearing his striped prison garb. And 
>maybe it's just because I'm listening to a David Bowie CD now, but 
>Rupert looks very 70s there. 


Thanks for the link Manda!

Here's another site with a slightly less blurry picture:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=761

It seems to me that the photo was taken at Leavesden where, 
according to Cindy in an earlier post, Dan Radcliffe celebrated his 
birthday. That this surfaced on the net only a few days after 
the "Make a Wish" foundation fans vistited the set makes me think 
that they are the girls in the photo.

My unashamedly biased thoughts - well, firstly, I'm absolutely 
chuffed to finally see what Sirius will look like in the new film 
and I think that he looks great (putting on my asbestos-lined 
robes). Not everyone will share my enthusiasm however I think that 
it is important to realise (to state the obvious), that 12 years of 
Azkaban make the "handsome Sirius" of the wedding photo into someone 
whom Harry barely recognises. 

I love the Azkaban wizard robes (and I do *NOT* care that the 
stripes are horizontal instead of vertical vs arrowed etc, etc). I 
acknowledge that Sirius does not wear Lennon glasses but that Mr 
Oldman obviously does. I love the beard (whoops - almost 
quoted "Lord Flasheart from Blackadder there) and unlike some other 
people who've expressed their opinions on the net, feel that Gary 
will not be wearing a wig in the film on the basis that his beard, 
which must've been cultivated specially for the movie, is brown and 
matches his long & unkempt hair and that I sincerely hope (for Gary 
Oldman's sake), that he doesn't wear his hair raggedy, long and 
unkempt in real life. 

I was a bit thrown by the very non-canonical tattoos/branding as 
they look a bit sinister and primitive. I doubt that they would've 
been included without JKR's knowledge and implied consent, given the 
clout that she currently wields (one negative word from her and I 
suspect that half of the HP4GU crowd would boycott the films). Those 
who can be bothered to read and interpret the Runes on Gary Oldman's 
chest (not me) may find this site useful: 
http://hem.passagen.se/vsen/public_html/runes.htm#ALPHABET

Someone on the net manipulated the photo and thought that they could 
see the words "Sirius" on Oldman's collarbone - all that I could 
make out was a black smudge; it would be interesting if Sirius had 
inscribed his own name on his body in order to remind himself of his 
identity in anticipation of losing his mind in Azkaban IMO anyway.

Finally, IMO, Alan Rickman looks wonderful irrespective of whichever 
direction the wind is blowing; Rupert Grint still looks very, very 
young though I *love* his ill-fitting maroon "Weasley Jumper".
                              
******

Sara_ELL ... now *VERY* impatiently waiting for the first photos of 
Lupin to surface on the net (and still recovering from the 
experience of seeing the ever fabulous David Thewlis in "Naked")




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 23 14:26:52 2003
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:26:52 -0000
Subject: Picture of Sirius...
In-Reply-To: <bfkkls+gs39@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfm5vc+n2rl@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
<harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
> go to HPANA.com & see a picture of Gary Oldman as Sirius, its 
really 
> good except for the tattoos!!!!!
> 
> Fan

*Except* for the tatoos? Though we never hear of Sirius being tatooed 
in canon, I thought they were a REALLY nice touch, very much in 
keeping with the "disturbed and dangerous" image presented of him in 
most of PoA. He's an escaped convict thought to have committed a 
terrible crime. Remember, we know very little of what it's actually 
like at Azkaban. Seeing the tatoos made Azkaban just a little more 
tangible to me, as well as reminded me of what I thought of Sirius 
before reaching the end of PoA. My one complaint fo Sirius's look in 
this pic is his hair: MUCH too clean...

As for Rupert--somebody pinch me: what a cutie that boy is!

Sophia






From glcherry at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 23 19:43:18 2003
From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (glcherry at bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:43:18 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Picture of Sirius...
References: <bfm5vc+n2rl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3F1EE556.9060301@bellsouth.net>

The Leaky Cauldron has removed the picture as WB asked them to, but you 
can still see it at the following link:
  http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=761
Thank goodness, or I'd never have seen it.
                Lorrie

sophiamcl wrote:

>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
><harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
>  
>
>>go to HPANA.com & see a picture of Gary Oldman as Sirius, its 
>>    
>>
>really 
>  
>
>>good except for the tattoos!!!!!
>>
>>Fan
>>    
>>
>
>*Except* for the tatoos? Though we never hear of Sirius being tatooed 
>in canon, I thought they were a REALLY nice touch, very much in 
>keeping with the "disturbed and dangerous" image presented of him in 
>most of PoA. He's an escaped convict thought to have committed a 
>terrible crime. Remember, we know very little of what it's actually 
>like at Azkaban. Seeing the tatoos made Azkaban just a little more 
>tangible to me, as well as reminded me of what I thought of Sirius 
>before reaching the end of PoA. My one complaint fo Sirius's look in 
>this pic is his hair: MUCH too clean...
>
>As for Rupert--somebody pinch me: what a cutie that boy is!
>
>Sophia
>
>
>
>
>
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From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Wed Jul 23 21:25:19 2003
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:25:19 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Quick Question on Houses
Message-ID: <v01540b00bb436359a8b8@[217.154.252.208]>

Christin said:-

>I've thought about Ron's line too, and it just doesn't make sense. I
>mean, if you have to be in Slytherin to be evil, then it'd be an easy
>job to keep traitors out of, for example, the order. Just don't accept
>any Slytherins. I think Ron was just generalizing.

I think that it was put in to give Harry a reason to ask the Hat not to put
him in Slytherin. In the book, Harry first met Malfoy in Diagon Alley and
decided then that he didn't want to be in Slytherin. The movie omitted that
scene, so there had to be some rationale for Harry choosing not to be put
into the same house as Malfoy.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From tmarends at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 21:22:04 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:22:04 -0000
Subject: Report? Pretty please?
In-Reply-To: <bfi8c6+5lji@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfmu9s+i2t2@eGroups.com>

Yes!!  I love Sweeney Todd.  She didn't even think twice about 
turning people into meat pies, it was more of a logical conclusion of 
what to do with the bodies.  She definately has it in her to 
play "poisoned honey".

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" 
> <harrysfannyc at y...> wrote:
> > Me: I think she'd (Ms. Lansbury) make a great Umbridge based on 
her 
> charactor in 
> > The Manchurian Candidate (1962), but she may be too old from my 
> > version of her.
> 
> I had the great pleasure of being in the third row when Ms. 
Lansbury 
> performed with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir two years ago.  Her 
> performance was wonderful, but I do think she might be a bit old to 
> portray Umbridge.  She certainly has it in her, though; anyone out 
> there a Sweeney Todd fan?
> 
> imamommy




From suzloua at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 01:59:00 2003
From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 02:59:00 +0100
Subject: Picture of Sirius - and Ron (drool)
Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV540RoeNIiJg000026e5@hotmail.com>

Sara Ell said:
Someone on the net manipulated the photo and thought that they could 
see the words "Sirius" on Oldman's collarbone - all that I could 
make out was a black smudge; it would be interesting if Sirius had 
inscribed his own name on his body in order to remind himself of his 
identity in anticipation of losing his mind in Azkaban IMO anyway.

Susan:
Now that I know what I'm looking for, I can see IRS or IAS just at the bottom of his visible chest, but since neither of those fit into S-I-R-I-U-S or B-L-A-C-K I'm thinking it doesn't say Sirius. Can't see bugger all on his collarbone. 

Now, I always thought Radcliffe was very cute, if not sexy, and Felton blew me away in CoS (sexy EverSoEvilCockney!Draco, I loved it!!) but never much seen the point to Rupert before. But in that picture - damn. The boy looks damn fine. And, ironically enough, more or less my ideal Fred Weasley - the Phelps don't do it for me at all, they need those messy curls Rupert has going on here!

Susan
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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"Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you!" --Ross Geller
"Oh yeah, and did I mention I've got a baby?" --Stuart Alan Jones
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From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 24 03:17:25 2003
From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:17:25 -0000
Subject: Picture of Sirius - and Ron (drool)
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV540RoeNIiJg000026e5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <bfnj45+fbmj@eGroups.com>

Hey, Oldman, like the beard. Gives me something to hang on to! Woof!
Hey, Rickman, you look sexy. But you should wear your hair-black. 
(Alan Rickman giggles, and says to camera "I've got such a crush on 
her...")
Grint! I like them...er..firm and fruity...? Oh dear. 
Sorry, Sara put the phrase in my head and I couldn't resist it. 
Kirstini.
Woof!
God, it's like Crufts in here...




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 24 04:17:30 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:17:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Picture of Sirius - and Ron (drool)
References: <Sea1-DAV540RoeNIiJg000026e5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c3519a$80682c30$619ecdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>


Susan:

> Now, I always thought Radcliffe was very cute, if not sexy, and Felton blew me > away in CoS (sexy EverSoEvilCockney!Draco, I loved it!!) but never much seen 
> the point to Rupert before. But in that picture - damn. The boy looks damn 
> fine. And, ironically enough, more or less my ideal Fred Weasley - the Phelps 
> don't do it for me at all, they need those messy curls Rupert has going on 
> here!

You are too funny Susan. :)  I'm trying to imagine you and my mother in the same room together.  She thinks Rupert's quite ugly (I disagree with her, mind you, so don't throw anything at me).  Now, moving on to Alan Rickman.  That man is sexy.  Even with grey hair.  No, especially with grey hair. :)

RIchelle


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From Audra1976 at aol.com  Thu Jul 24 10:06:47 2003
From: Audra1976 at aol.com (Audra1976 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:06:47 EDT
Subject: Pictures and Trailer (was Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!)
Message-ID: <68.32bbb547.2c5109b7@aol.com>

Beth in Sacramento <Tasukibeth1 at cs.com> wrote:

> And I think that dementor picture could very possibly be legitimate, 
> but I guess we won't know until later.

Then Anne U <anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> actually, I am pretty sure the "dementors picture" was debunked on 
> this very list. It's actually a still of the Nazguls (Ring Wraiths) 
> swiped from one of the Lord of the Rings movies.

Me:

Yes, I can second that.  That so-called Dementor picture is definitely a 
modified picture of the Ring Wraiths.  A friend of mine e-mailed me the actual 
original picture from "Lord of the Rings," and it is unmistakable.  I can 
understand why WB is keeping us in the dark yet regarding pictures of the Dementors, 
and Sirius Black and Lupin in costume, but it is still so maddening knowing 
that the filming has already been done and we just have to wait for them!!

By the way, someone brought up the "Prisoner of Azkaban" trailer possibly 
being shown somewhere.  I know there isn't a trailer out yet, but it got me 
thinking--it's bound to be out this Fall.  So do we know of any Fall movies that 
might possibly get the anticipated trailer ahead of it?  Probably "Return of the 
King," but I dont think that's coming out until December, and I hope to see a 
trailer before that. 

Audra, 
who between "Prisoner of Azkaban," "The Last Unicorn," and (hopefully) "The 
Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," is REALLY looking forward to Summer 2004!


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From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 24 13:32:08 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:32:08 -0000
Subject: Pictures and Trailer (was Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!)
In-Reply-To: <68.32bbb547.2c5109b7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfon4o+mir9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Audra1976 at a... wrote:
 
....but it is still so maddening knowing that the filming has already 
been done and we just have to wait for them!!
> 
> By the way, someone brought up the "Prisoner of Azkaban" trailer 
possibly 
> being shown somewhere.  I know there isn't a trailer out yet, but 
it got me 
> thinking--it's bound to be out this Fall.  So do we know of any 
Fall movies that 
> might possibly get the anticipated trailer ahead of it?  
Probably "Return of the 
> King," but I dont think that's coming out until December, and I 
hope to see a 
> trailer before that. 

Me: Actually they haven't finished filming PoA yet, just the scenes 
from Scotland.

The trailer is suppose to be coming out with the Looney Tunes movie 
in Nov. 03.

Fan




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 24 21:27:09 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:27:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Pictures and Trailer (was Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!)
References: <bfon4o+mir9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <019a01c3522a$66c00470$119dcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>


> The trailer is suppose to be coming out with the Looney Tunes movie 
> in Nov. 03.

Speaking of the trailer, which movie did the trailer for CoS play in front of?  Was it Scooby Doo?  When did that come out?  Anybody remember when they released that first group of publicity photos?  The ones with the trio, Ginny, Riddle, Draco and so on?  I'm trying to figure out when we could possibly hope to have publicity photos released.

Richelle


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From GoodFeelingGal23 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 22:01:05 2003
From: GoodFeelingGal23 at hotmail.com (goodfeelinggal23)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:01:05 -0000
Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius pic
Message-ID: <bfpkv1+tte2@eGroups.com>

Hey all,

 first time poster and all. i went to the leaky cauldron website 
today, saw the Oldman as Black title, and almost fainted. Until I 
read that they had taken the pic off of the website. i've searched 
frantically, and it's apparently been taken off of the entire 
freaking Internet!! Does anyone have the picture saved to their hard 
drive who would be willing to send it to me as an attachment?? I 
would be ever ever ever so grateful.

love being here and reading the posts. it's a bit less intimidating 
than hpfgu. :)

thanks,
mandi




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 00:21:34 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:21:34 -0000
Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius pic
In-Reply-To: <bfpkv1+tte2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfpt6e+p3el@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "goodfeelinggal23" 
<GoodFeelingGal23 at h...> wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
>  first time poster and all. i went to the leaky cauldron website 
> today, saw the Oldman as Black title, and almost fainted. Until I 
> read that they had taken the pic off of the website. i've searched 
> frantically, and it's apparently been taken off of the entire 
> freaking Internet!! 

Go to HPANA.com they still have it there, you may have to scroll 
down the page - but it's there right now.




From shawn_stang at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 00:21:07 2003
From: shawn_stang at yahoo.com (stellainspring)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Gary Oldman as Sirius pic
In-Reply-To: <bfpkv1+tte2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030725002107.41175.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com>

goodfeelinggal23 <GoodFeelingGal23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey all,

first time poster and all. i went to the leaky cauldron website 
today, saw the Oldman as Black title, and almost fainted. Until I 
read that they had taken the pic off of the website. i've searched 
frantically, and it's apparently been taken off of the entire 
freaking Internet!! Does anyone have the picture saved to their hard 
drive who would be willing to send it to me as an attachment?? I 
would be ever ever ever so grateful.

love being here and reading the posts. it's a bit less intimidating 
than hpfgu. :)

thanks,
mandi >>>>


No, I don't have that one, but I have these three that might cheer you up.
 









From CLShannon at aol.com  Fri Jul 25 07:42:45 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:42:45 EDT
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
Message-ID: <cc.203d45e6.2c523975@aol.com>

Found this on The Hollywood Reporter online page.

http://www.thehollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=
1942391

It seems that British director Mike Newell is interested in directing GOF and 
 WB is interested in talking to him. I believe he also directed 'Four Wedding 
and a Funeral'. Nothing is even close to being a done deal, but it's an 
interesting tidbit.


Cindy



From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 10:04:29 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:04:29 -0000
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <cc.203d45e6.2c523975@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfqvbd+8k4q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
> Found this on The Hollywood Reporter online page.
> 
> http://www.thehollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?
vnu_content_id=
> 1942391
> 
> It seems that British director Mike Newell is interested in 
directing GOF and 
>  WB is interested in talking to him. I believe he also 
directed 'Four Wedding 
> and a Funeral'. Nothing is even close to being a done deal, but 
it's an 
> interesting tidbit.
> 
> 
> Cindy

Hmmm, too easy to pre-judge a director *years* before he makes the 
film, however IMO, a large component of the success of "Four 
Weddings.." should be attributed to Richard Curtis' brilliant 
script. The only other film of his that I've seen was "An Awfully 
Big Adventure" which, despite starring Alan Rickman (and yeah - that 
Hugh Grant person) really left a stange taste in my mouth (anyone 
who's seen the film will know what I mean). On the other hand, he's 
produced  a couple of other films that I've enjoyed ("Carrington" 
was absolutely wonderful), so I'll probably reserve judgement until 
I've actually seen the film - if his involvement ends up being true, 
of course. Actually, now that I think of it - perhaps his earlier 
involvement with Alan Rickman will result fewer Snape scenes being 
cut.... 

Sara-ELL




From trisha.masen at verizon.net  Fri Jul 25 13:03:55 2003
From: trisha.masen at verizon.net (Trisha Masen)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 9:03:55 -0400
Subject: Pictures and Trailer (was Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!)
Message-ID: <20030725130355.ZCDK24927.pop016.verizon.net@localhost>

> > The trailer is suppose to be coming out with the
> > Looney Tunes movie in Nov. 03.
>
> Richelle added: 
> Speaking of the trailer, which movie did the trailer for CoS
> play in front of?  Was it Scooby Doo?  When did that come out?
> Anybody remember when they released that first group of
> publicity photos?  The ones with the trio, Ginny, Riddle, Draco
> and so on?  I'm trying to figure out when we could possibly hope
> to have publicity photos released.

And I (Trisha) add:
Am I totally out of my mind?  I thought I heard that it would play in front of "The Matrix: Revolutions" as well.  I could be out of my mind, given that that is an R-rated flick and it makes more sense for the trailer for a "kids" movie to be shown in front of a kids movie.

Eh, in either case, I'll be seeing the Looney Tunes movie with my daughter and Revolutions by myself.

~Trisha~




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Fri Jul 25 13:19:22 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:19:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Pictures and Trailer (was Re: A pretty good picture of Dumbledore!)
References: <20030725130355.ZCDK24927.pop016.verizon.net@localhost>
Message-ID: <00d201c352af$5d802720$dd9fcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>


And I (Trisha) add:
> Am I totally out of my mind?  I thought I heard that it would play in
front of "The Matrix: Revolutions" as > well.  I could be out of my mind,
given that that is an R-rated flick and it makes more sense for the trailer
> for a "kids" movie to be shown in front of a kids movie.
>
> Eh, in either case, I'll be seeing the Looney Tunes movie with my daughter
and Revolutions by myself.

That was the original, unconfirmed report.  That it would play in front of
Matrix Revolutions.  I wondered about that, though, seeing as even if
they're going all out PoA can't be more than PG 13, and while there are kids
at Matrix movies with parents, there are far more younger ones who would go
to, say Looney Tunes and then their parents would take them to PoA PG 13 or
not.  But the confirmed report from WB is that the trailer will play in
front of the Looney Tunes movie.

Richelle





From newdevilry9 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 15:11:02 2003
From: newdevilry9 at yahoo.com (newdevilry9)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:11:02 -0000
Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius pic
In-Reply-To: <20030725002107.41175.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bfrha6+8m8v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, stellainspring <shawn_stang at y...> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> No, I don't have that one, but I have these three that might cheer 
you up.

Am I missing the link or how to get to the pictures?  I would love to 
see them!  Please let me know how.

Thanks,
NewDev




From shawn_stang at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 25 15:46:36 2003
From: shawn_stang at yahoo.com (stellainspring)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:46:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Gary Oldman as Sirius pic
In-Reply-To: <bfpkv1+tte2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030725154636.3783.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm sorry, didn't read the rules about attaching files.http://www.garyoldman.com/ar
Click on this link to go to a GARY OLDMAN site. Fabulous pics.

goodfeelinggal23 <GoodFeelingGal23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,

first time poster and all. i went to the leaky cauldron website 
today, saw the Oldman as Black title, and almost fainted. Until I 
read that they had taken the pic off of the website. i've searched 
frantically, and it's apparently been taken off of the entire 
freaking Internet!! Does anyone have the picture saved to their hard 
drive who would be willing to send it to me as an attachment?? I 
would be ever ever ever so grateful.

love being here and reading the posts. it's a bit less intimidating 
than hpfgu. :)

thanks,
mandi


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Jul 25 16:46:18 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:46:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] possible director of GoF
Message-ID: <140.1623a4fa.2c52b8da@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/25/2003 6:48:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> 
> http://www.thehollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=
> 1942391
> 
> It seems that British director Mike Newell is interested in directing GOF 
> and 
> WB is interested in talking to him. I believe he also directed 'Four Wedding 
> 
> and a Funeral'. Nothing is even close to being a done deal, but it's an 
> interesting tidbit.
> 
> 
> Cindy
> 

Wonder why they aren't considering using Cuaron again?  Anybody have a clue?

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From jferer at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 26 18:00:34 2003
From: jferer at yahoo.com (Jim Ferer)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:00:34 -0000
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <cc.203d45e6.2c523975@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bfufk2+dnge@eGroups.com>

Cindy:"It seems that British director Mike Newell is interested in 
directing GOF and WB is interested in talking to him. I believe he 
also directed 'Four Wedding and a Funeral'. Nothing is even close to 
being a done deal, but it's an interesting tidbit."

I think there's one director best suited for GOF and, for that 
matter, OOP, who's 1) handled young actors in every film he's 
directed, 2) knows suspense and danger, and knows a young audience 
(wrote the script for the first Stuart Little movie):

M. Night Shyamalan, the director of "The Sixth Sense," "Unbreakable," 
and "Signs." He'd be perfect.




From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 26 15:39:17 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:39:17 -0000
Subject: opening scene PoA
Message-ID: <bfu7b5+qqe9@eGroups.com>

Colombus lacked the darkness necessary for Rowling, really, so I'm 
glad he's history.

Opening scene ~must~ be the Peter Sirius confrontation, if only to 
convince fans that an hysterically laughing Oldman can look a crazed 
and murdurous lunatic. If they put a bit of that part in the trailor, 
maybe some would remember that Oldman, unlike grint, for instance, 
can at least act. It needn't be long, it needn't do anything at all 
but show Peter, Sirius, the bang and the dead, laughing, the taking 
away. Yep. That better be scene one.

danf






From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 26 20:38:36 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] opening scene PoA
In-Reply-To: <bfu7b5+qqe9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030726203836.20922.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com>

ummm...The potter series has a traditional opening crane shot of Privet drive.  It shoudl remain this tradition for it sets the seem and it immediately hooks in the watcher.  A scene such as you describe that is essential to the plot should be shown later (if at all) after the theme of the film and its story is fleshed out.  A scene that "explains" does not "set" the mood of the film.  Thus the opening shot will be a crane shot of #4 privet drive, most likely zoming in through the window of Harry's room with him lying in bed reading the Muggle paper with Sirius' picture on the front, then the scene continues with Harry being called to dinner and having the Muggle news in the background talking about the escaped convict, which flows nicely to a small discussion of it with the family, which segways to Aunt Marge, which begins Harry's 3rd year adventure.

Dan Feeney <lunalovegood at shaw.ca> wrote:Colombus lacked the darkness necessary for Rowling, really, so I'm 
glad he's history.

Opening scene ~must~ be the Peter Sirius confrontation, if only to 
convince fans that an hysterically laughing Oldman can look a crazed 
and murdurous lunatic. If they put a bit of that part in the trailor, 
maybe some would remember that Oldman, unlike grint, for instance, 
can at least act. It needn't be long, it needn't do anything at all 
but show Peter, Sirius, the bang and the dead, laughing, the taking 
away. Yep. That better be scene one.

danf




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From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 26 20:52:21 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:52:21 -0000
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <bfufk2+dnge@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bfupm5+l37h@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ferer" <jferer at y...> wrote:
Jim Ferer <~~~waves to Jim, who has been underground lately...> 
wrote: 
> I think there's one director best suited for GOF and, for that 
> matter, OOP, who's 1) handled young actors in every film he's 
> directed, 2) knows suspense and danger, and knows a young audience 
> (wrote the script for the first Stuart Little movie):
> 
> M. Night Shyamalan, the director of "The Sixth 
Sense," "Unbreakable," 
> and "Signs." He'd be perfect.

Ohhhhhhhh! Shyamalan (pronounced SHAH-mah-lahn) would be wonderful. I 
hvaen't seen Sixth Sense or Signs (yes, I have to rent them) but I 
HAVE seen Unbreakable and thought it was fantastic. The irony, of 
course, is that Shyamalan directed Haley Joel Osment as the kid in 
Sixth Sense...and HJO supposely was interested in being cast as Harry 
Potter. But I agree, Shyamalan would do a great job with the suspense 
and danger angles of GoF... My main concern is that GoF NOT be 
directed by Chris Columbus!! Please, for the love of all that's good 
and holy and/or HP canon... I beg of you, Warner Brothers...

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Shyamalan,+M.+Night


Anne U
(shall we start on a campaign to convince WB or are things too far 
along by now??...)





From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 00:33:15 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <bfupm5+l37h@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030727003316.54134.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>

whats wrong with Curoan (sp?)?  Already trying to replace him?!?  LOL.  I VERY much doubt that 1. Shyamalan would wnat to direct such a huge undertaking when he is much more suited for smaller, people driven films.  and 2. Thant Disney would let him out of his contract to direct a WB film.  
 
I say that we give Curaon a shot before we replace him.

Anne <anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ferer" <jferer at y...> wrote:
Jim Ferer <~~~waves to Jim, who has been underground lately...> 
wrote: 
> I think there's one director best suited for GOF and, for that 
> matter, OOP, who's 1) handled young actors in every film he's 
> directed, 2) knows suspense and danger, and knows a young audience 
> (wrote the script for the first Stuart Little movie):
> 
> M. Night Shyamalan, the director of "The Sixth 
Sense," "Unbreakable," 
> and "Signs." He'd be perfect.

Ohhhhhhhh! Shyamalan (pronounced SHAH-mah-lahn) would be wonderful. I 
hvaen't seen Sixth Sense or Signs (yes, I have to rent them) but I 
HAVE seen Unbreakable and thought it was fantastic. The irony, of 
course, is that Shyamalan directed Haley Joel Osment as the kid in 
Sixth Sense...and HJO supposely was interested in being cast as Harry 
Potter. But I agree, Shyamalan would do a great job with the suspense 
and danger angles of GoF... My main concern is that GoF NOT be 
directed by Chris Columbus!! Please, for the love of all that's good 
and holy and/or HP canon... I beg of you, Warner Brothers...

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Shyamalan,+M.+Night


Anne U
(shall we start on a campaign to convince WB or are things too far 
along by now??...)



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From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Sun Jul 27 01:28:32 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Tasukibeth1 at cs.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:28:32 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Completely OT: The Last Unicorn
Message-ID: <54.163351f6.2c5484c0@cs.com>

Audra said: 
who between "Prisoner of Azkaban," "The Last Unicorn," and (hopefully) "The 
Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," is REALLY looking forward to Summer 2004!

Beth replies:
The last Unicorn? What? Who? How? Where? Re-make? Why? Please direct me to 
info about this before I explode. My entire childhood was centered around the 
Last Unicorn; what are they doing to it??? I am afraid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 27 04:21:31 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:21:31 -0000
Subject: opening scene PoA
In-Reply-To: <20030726203836.20922.qmail@web14504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bfvk0b+l2hq@eGroups.com>

Matt Huber:
> ummm...The potter series has a traditional opening crane shot of 
>Privet drive.

Two is not necessarily a tradition.

I was merely advocating for a film that translates the book to film 
medium in more than a literal way. A film that can stand more on its 
own than as an elipsed shorthand for the book. Film speaks a 
different language, has a different grammar - it has shorter time to 
do stuff, but more registers to do it in (music, transpositions, 
visual content etc.) Columbus' efforts seemed too "after school 
special" for me, way too linear. Columbus didn't take ANY chances, 
and the films made so far are popular, I submit, because of the 
books, but they aren't works of art themselves, they are just literal 
(if edited) and somewhat banal transcriptions. (Tarkovsky is my 
favourite director, followed by Kirosawa. Think what Tarkovsky did 
for Lem's Solaris! - the film has even supplanted the story on which 
it was based. Or what Kirosawa did for King Lear (Ran). Or what 
Jackson did with LoTR. Now, that's a great movie, it isn't a 
literal/banal translation of the book, and the director took chances, 
used the techniques of his medium to create the spirit of the books, 
not use the techniques of book to make a film. Fans may not agree 
with Jackson's story, but, but a whole lot of them go, more than once 
too, and more people agree on his capturing the spirit of the books 
than anything else. If HP were only the banal transcription Columbus 
made, A.S.Byatt's criticisms would be dead on. Columbus didn't do any 
of that. His films aren't art, they're precis.)

My opening would stun the audience, like Jackson does in the trilogy -
 they wouldn't be expecting it, it would "set the tone" WAY better 
than by letting the real subject of the film sneak up, as it were, 
and it has more art to it. Might even be Oscar or Cannes material, 
something Columbus' telling of HP never had the remotest chance of 
being. Great films are aren't transcriptions, but that's the kind of 
film Columbus makes.

But really, in all this, there's just the sense for me that this 
director might actually make a film that puts on screen the 
incredible story of MWPP - what we know of it. Done in such a way 
that we "know" exactly why this character is to be feared. Later, 
when we see more of the scene (the retelling, the explanations) WE 
can experience the change that HP experienced. And, maybe just as 
important, my opening scene doesn't suggest the belief that people 
have read the book, nor does it suggest they haven't. It's the way to 
make a movie that rocks.

>A scene that "explains" does not "set" the mood of the film.

It explains nothing, by the way. It misleads, is what it does. We see 
it from the perspective, as in the books, of those who have assumed 
SB's guilt for 12 years. It puts us exactly where we're supposed to 
be, so that we know we are somewhere else by the end of it. 

>Thus >the opening shot will be a crane shot of #4 privet drive, most 
>likely zoming in through the window of Harry's room with him lying 
>in bed reading the Muggle paper with Sirius' picture on the front, 
>then the scene continues with Harry being called to dinner and 
>having the Muggle news in the background talking about the escaped 
>convict, which flows nicely to a small discussion of it with the 
>family, which segways to Aunt Marge, which begins Harry's 3rd year 
>adventure.





From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 27 04:29:34 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:29:34 -0000
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <20030727003316.54134.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bfvkfe+5v6k@eGroups.com>

Sorry Matt, not picking on you. I agree with Anne, however. We are 
well rid of Columbus. Let's not leave a single door uncolloportused 
for him to sneak back in through.

dan




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Sun Jul 27 08:06:34 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:06:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Completely OT: The Last Unicorn
In-Reply-To: <54.163351f6.2c5484c0@cs.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030727025747.02f5cea8@mail.kriselda.net>

Tasukibeth1 at cs.com recently mentioned:

>Audra said:
>who between "Prisoner of Azkaban," "The Last Unicorn," and (hopefully) "The
>Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe," is REALLY looking forward to Summer 2004!
>
>Beth replies:
>The last Unicorn? What? Who? How? Where? Re-make? Why? Please direct me to
>info about this before I explode. My entire childhood was centered around the
>Last Unicorn; what are they doing to it??? I am afraid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They're doing a live action version of it.  Here's the cast list so far:

King Haggard:       Christopher Lee
Molly Grue:         Mia Farrow
Mommy Fortuna:   Angela Lansbury
Captain Cully:      Rene Auberjonois (also doing the voice of the Skull)
Schmendrick:        Jonathan Rhys-Meyers

They've got an official website for it that seems to have a fair amount of 
information already posted at: http://www.the-last-unicorn.net/

The feeling I've gotten is that they've very committed to making it a movie 
people who've loved the book will really treasure.

I've never actually read the book itself, but I have to say the cast, so 
far, looks pretty good.  I know a few of these names have been tossed 
around here a few times as possibilities for Harry Potter roles :)


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From naomi_blake at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 27 13:18:30 2003
From: naomi_blake at hotmail.com (naomimccormick)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:18:30 -0000
Subject: New POA photos!
Message-ID: <bg0jf6+v6hq@eGroups.com>

I just wanted to see if anyone else had seen the new newsweek article 
about PoA filming? There's a fantastic photo of Dan and Emma (outside 
the whomping willow?). I am so excited about Alfonso Cuaron after 
seeing this. You can get to the article from www.the-leaky-
cauldron.org

Naomi

PS This is my first post. Hi guys :o)






From tahewitt at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 15:31:38 2003
From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <1059301024.406.91805.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030727153138.22605.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com>

Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at yahoo.com> wrote:
whats wrong with Curoan (sp?)?  Already trying to
replace him?!?  LOL. 

ME:
I beleive that Curaon has already stated in interviews
that he has no interest in directing GoF.

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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 16:14:33 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: opening scene PoA
In-Reply-To: <bfvk0b+l2hq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030727161433.17043.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>

Don't get me wrong Dan, (and i do apologize for not making this clear previously) But I think your Idea has some definite interest.  I was merely stating the unliklihood of such a "gruesome" opening event.  While I agree that digressions in a story so it "fits" better on the screen can make a film story better then a book story, I would disagree that risks need to be taken just for the sake of them.  They need to be made if the make sense.  For your example of LotR, the small sub-stories that evoled was less about risk and more about film pacing.  It gave additonal sequences to otherwise larger characters in the novels becuase to flesh out these characters, the film would be 6 hours long.
 
However, I must still hold the belief that your opening sequence would not work for one more claim.  This is a children's film.  The major demographic that this film and story speaks to is adolcents.  Therefore, risks, and linear storytelling is what we are stuck with.  A child would not want to see a Harry Potter story different from what they read.  They want to see the story that they read playing out in front of their eyes.


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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 16:21:37 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF
In-Reply-To: <20030727153138.22605.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030727162137.53781.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>

I just find it difficult to believe that BEFORE the film he is working on is complete, he is wandering around telling everyone he doesn't want to do another.  Kinda makes its difficult to put your best efforts into the film if you are not wanting to be there.
 
 


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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 16:49:39 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Casting Summary--Fill in the Blanks
Message-ID: <20030727164939.57012.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>

Ok, I thought that with all the discussion about who should be who, We should put together a summary for this.  I am beginning to forget everyone's thoughts.  Too many characters to keep track of nowadays :)  ets just keep cutting and Pasting when we have ideas.
 
Cedric - 
Cho - 
Fleur - 
Roger Davies - 
Maxine - 
Karakoff - 
Crouch - 
Crouch Jr - 
Moody - 
Krum - 
Bagman - 
Trelawney - 
Narcissa - 
Roberts - 
Avery - 
Bertha - 
Frank Bryce - 
Figg - 
Podmore - 
Mundungus - 
Kingsley - 
Bill Weasley - 
Charlie Weasley - 
Umbridge - 
Bellatrix - 
Astronomy Teacher - 
Owl Testers - 
 
 
I am sure I forgot some.  Please add accordingly
 
 
 
 


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From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Jul 27 18:32:45 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:32:45 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
References: <20030727162137.53781.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01c3546d$8171c070$15a0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Matt Huber wrote:

> I just find it difficult to believe that BEFORE the film he is working on
is complete, he is wandering around > telling everyone he doesn't want to do
another.  Kinda makes its difficult to put your best efforts into the
> film if you are not wanting to be there.

Not necessarily.  Cuaron may have already had something lined up for after
PoA, which would prevent him from doing GoF.  It's not that he's said he
doesn't *want* to do another, but that he's not doing another.  There is a
difference.  I'm sure he's giving PoA everything it deserves.

And as for the Newsweek picture of PoA, WOW!!!  Looks fantastic to me, gotta
be a dementor they're looking at.  Did y'all see in that article that Cuaron
said the SFX people have spent six months on dementors alone?  They're bound
to be terrific after all that.

Richelle





From CLShannon at aol.com  Sun Jul 27 18:56:04 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:56:04 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
Message-ID: <131.21f85253.2c557a44@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/27/03 11:34:02 AM, rvotaw at i-55.com writes:

<< And as for the Newsweek picture of PoA, WOW!!!  Looks fantastic to me, 
gotta

be a dementor they're looking at.  Did y'all see in that article that Cuaron

said the SFX people have spent six months on dementors alone?  They're bound

to be terrific after all that. >>

I agree, wow! And a very interesting article as well. Don't forget to listen 
to the audio link on there too, there is more on the actors and such.
I do have one question though - if this scene is near the Whomping Willow 
when Harry and Hermione are trying to chase after Ron and the 'dog', why is Harry 
dressed in his Dursley clothes? That sweater is the same one he has on in the 
early scenes when he escapes from Privet Drive. I don't recall him wearing 
that thing later on in the book...or maybe he does? Oh well, it's a great photo 
and I couldn't help thinking, 'gee, Emma felt embarrassed having to hug Dan at 
the end of COS because it was in front of so many people. I wonder how she 
felt about this scene?' <g> Although the article is pretty clear that the 'sap 
is rising' as far as hormones are concerned ;-) 
I love the sign Emma has on her dressing room door - Beware, Babe Inside ;)

It's great to hear about Hogmeade too. I was wondering how that place would 
look. Can't wait to see some photos of it.

As for Cuaron not directing GOF, that was decided, I think, before he even 
did this one. It's not a sign that WB doesn't like what he's doing. As the audio 
clip says, the reporter for Newsweek says that the schedule is grueling for 
these films and to do two in a row is very difficult for a director. It also 
would tie up his schedule for at about 2 years and directors usually don't do 
that. I think it was always decided that he only wanted to direct only one.

Cindy




From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 19:09:17 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:09:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
In-Reply-To: <131.21f85253.2c557a44@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20030727190917.41120.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>

anyone have a link to an online article of all this?

CLShannon at aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/27/03 11:34:02 AM, rvotaw at i-55.com writes:

<< And as for the Newsweek picture of PoA, WOW!!!  Looks fantastic to me, 
gotta

be a dementor they're looking at.  Did y'all see in that article that Cuaron

said the SFX people have spent six months on dementors alone?  They're bound

to be terrific after all that. >>

I agree, wow! And a very interesting article as well. Don't forget to listen 
to the audio link on there too, there is more on the actors and such.
I do have one question though - if this scene is near the Whomping Willow 
when Harry and Hermione are trying to chase after Ron and the 'dog', why is Harry 
dressed in his Dursley clothes? That sweater is the same one he has on in the 
early scenes when he escapes from Privet Drive. I don't recall him wearing 
that thing later on in the book...or maybe he does? Oh well, it's a great photo 
and I couldn't help thinking, 'gee, Emma felt embarrassed having to hug Dan at 
the end of COS because it was in front of so many people. I wonder how she 
felt about this scene?' <g> Although the article is pretty clear that the 'sap 
is rising' as far as hormones are concerned ;-) 
I love the sign Emma has on her dressing room door - Beware, Babe Inside ;)

It's great to hear about Hogmeade too. I was wondering how that place would 
look. Can't wait to see some photos of it.

As for Cuaron not directing GOF, that was decided, I think, before he even 
did this one. It's not a sign that WB doesn't like what he's doing. As the audio 
clip says, the reporter for Newsweek says that the schedule is grueling for 
these films and to do two in a row is very difficult for a director. It also 
would tie up his schedule for at about 2 years and directors usually don't do 
that. I think it was always decided that he only wanted to direct only one.

Cindy


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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 19:10:04 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
In-Reply-To: <00ff01c3546d$8171c070$15a0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
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Fair enough.  All good points.  Anyone like the idea of Mike Newell then?!?


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From CLShannon at aol.com  Sun Jul 27 19:15:04 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:15:04 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
Message-ID: <192.1dc96ddd.2c557eb8@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/27/03 12:10:49 PM, mhuber92211 at yahoo.com writes:

<< anyone have a link to an online article of all this? >>

http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp

Just a tip - I recommend everyone on this list - if they really want to get 
up to the minute news on the books, the movies and everything HP related - 
bookmark The Leaky Cauldron site and check it often. Anything new always appears 
on  that page with links to articles, pictures, etc.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/

It's a must if you are really a HP fan ;-) 
And I assume anyone joining this list about the movies is a HP fan, so 
bookmark that site!
Cindy



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Sun Jul 27 20:11:56 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:11:56 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
References: <131.21f85253.2c557a44@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c3547b$55cf5eb0$a59ccdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Cindy wrote:

> I agree, wow! And a very interesting article as well. Don't forget to listen 
> to the audio link on there too, there is more on the actors and such.

I can't get it to work. :(  It makes Internet Explorer shut down every time I try.

> I do have one question though - if this scene is near the Whomping Willow 
> when Harry and Hermione are trying to chase after Ron and the 'dog', why is 
> Harry dressed in his Dursley clothes? That sweater is the same one he has on in 
> the early scenes when he escapes from Privet Drive. I don't recall him wearing 

I was trying to figure out if the shirt underneath was different or the same.  It looks lighter, but the picture from the Knight Bus scenes were darker, so I can't be sure.  Maybe it's just to get across the poor little mistreated Harry and his old clothes or something.

Richelle


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From mbouhon at noos.fr  Sun Jul 27 14:55:12 2003
From: mbouhon at noos.fr (Mathilde Bouhon)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:55:12 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA photos, GOF director and casting idea for Olympe (was Re: New POA photos!)
In-Reply-To: <bg0jf6+v6hq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <531B96E3-C042-11D7-8D44-0050E46E566F@noos.fr>

Hello, distinguished Potterfans out there!


First of all, since this is my first post, let me introduce myself:  
Mathilde, 22 years old french conductor, and obviously a HP fan  :)
I have been reading this list for a little while and really enjoy it;  
plus, it is so much less impressive than the main HPfGU (I don't think  
I'll ever have the courage to post there, it just goes much too fast  
for me, I can't spend 24 hours a day on my computer with the five HP  
volumes on the left of the keyboard...). Anyway, to the discussion:

Thanks Naomi for the article, I am also sooooo looking forward to  
seeing Cuaron's POA!!! I agree with all you guys who said we're much  
better rid of Columbus. (and I completely follow Dan F on his great  
post about the difference between a literal transcription of the books  
like Columbus does, and a *real* movie.)
I haven't seen any of Shyamalan's movies (yes, yes, I know, shame on  
me!) so I don't really have an opinion about his directing a Potter  
movie; and as for Newell, having only seen Four Weddings and Donnie  
Brasco (which I liked quite a lot except for the totally unneeded  
sawing scene... yuck!), I would say: let's wait and see. (talking about  
Four Weddings --wouldn't Charlotte Coleman have been the *ultimate*  
Tonks?  :(  )
However, what happened to the rumours about Steven Spielberg being  
interested in GOF? Here's a director who obviously knows how to work  
with kids (even though the Trio and Co are now teenagers, it's  
important), how to handle special effects, and set a dark atmosphere  
(cf Minority Report!). And, judging by his two latest movies, Catch me  
if you can and Minority Report, it looks like he's back in top form...

Now, since I'm talking about GOF --an idea about Madame Maxime, and  
Beaux-B?tons people in general... Just like the whole cast, so far, is  
British, wouldn't it be great to have *real* French actors for  
Beaux-B?tons?  :)  Unfortunately I'm short, dark-haired and totally  
unveelanish so I can't apply for Fleur  ;)  but I have an idea of who  
could be Madame Maxime: Marianne James. She is a french humorist and  
singer, and just has the stature (she must be over 1,80 m and has a,  
let's say, healthy physique that would perfectly match Robbie  
Coltrane's Hagrid  :) ) and the diva attitude Olympe needs. She used to  
have a show called L'Ultima Recital in which she was Ulrika von Glott,  
an extravagant german soprano (some sort of a mix of Elisabeth  
Schwarzkopf, Maria Callas, Renata Scotto with lots of Bianca Castafiore  
bits in it) that made both opera lovers and non musical audience laugh  
their guts out. The funniest is, she as a person is as simple, nice,  
natural and unfussy as Ulrika is extravagant, dictatorial and vulgar.  
Oh, and she has a real gift for accents. I can just hear her saying  
"Dumblydorr"  ;)
Here are the links to some pictures:

Marianne James au naturel:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laspheredelintime/divers/dossiers/ 
marianne%20james/photos%20marianne/mj1.html

Marianna James as her famous alter ego Ulrika von Glotte:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laspheredelintime/divers/dossiers/ 
marianne%20james/photos%20ulrika/u3.html

If you just mix the two to tame enough Ulrika but add enough  
divaishness to Marianne, I think it could make a nice Olympe Maxime  :)


Well, I think that's enough for a first post. Sorry for making it so  
longish, but I just thought I would put everything in one message  
rather that posting many short notes.


Mathilde (often aka Hermione81 over the internet)




Le dimanche, 27 juil 2003, ? 15:18 Europe/Paris, naomimccormick a ?crit  
:

> I just wanted to see if anyone else had seen the new newsweek article
> about PoA filming? There's a fantastic photo of Dan and Emma (outside
> the whomping willow?). I am so excited about Alfonso Cuaron after
> seeing this. You can get to the article from www.the-leaky-
> cauldron.org
>
> Naomi
>
> PS This is my first post. Hi guys :o)


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From mbouhon at noos.fr  Sun Jul 27 17:38:59 2003
From: mbouhon at noos.fr (Mathilde Bouhon)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:38:59 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting Summary--Fill in the Blanks
In-Reply-To: <20030727164939.57012.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <347ED890-C059-11D7-8584-0050E46E566F@noos.fr>

You forgot Tonks!!!!!!  lol

OK, here are some ideas:


Bellatrix: Kristin Scott Thomas

Narcissa: Miranda Richardson (although I doubt she would be cast in 
such an unvisible part  :(  )

Roberts: Who is it? Is it the Muggle guy from the camping in GOF? (have 
to read it once again) If that's him, I have to say Stephen Fry. It 
would be so cool to have him in that kind of a small, 
winging-through-the-window part, especially a muggle one   :)

Madame Maxime: as I wrote in an earlier post, I would like to have a 
real French woman, and I suggest Marianne James.

Moody: I love that suggestion someone made on this list to have Malcolm 
McDowell. I think he would be terrific!

I also remember someone suggesting Ewan McGregor as Bill Weasley. 
Although Ewan is probably too much of a star to take such a 
ridiculously small part, I have to agree with them: McGregor with a red 
poneytail and an earring would be so yummy!  ;)

As for Cedric, Cho, Fleur, Krum and Luna, they are all so young, I 
think I would like the casting people to surprise us with some unknown 
young actors, as they did so far with most of the teenagers in the 
movies. It's so nice to discover fresh blood.  :)


Mathilde


Le dimanche, 27 juil 2003, ? 18:49 Europe/Paris, Matt Huber a ?crit :

> Ok, I thought that with all the discussion about who should be who, We 
> should put together a summary for this.? I am beginning to forget 
> everyone's thoughts.? Too many characters to keep track of nowadays 
> :)? ets just keep cutting and Pasting when we have ideas.
>
> Cedric -
> Cho -
> Fleur -
> Roger Davies -
> Maxine -
> Karakoff -
> Crouch -
> Crouch Jr -
> Moody -
> Krum -
> Bagman -
> Trelawney -
> Narcissa -
> Roberts -
> Avery -
> Bertha -
> Frank Bryce -
> Figg -
> Podmore -
> Mundungus -
> Kingsley -
> Bill Weasley -
> Charlie Weasley -
> Umbridge -
> Bellatrix -
> Astronomy Teacher -
> Owl Testers -
>
>
> I am sure I forgot some.? Please add accordingly
>


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From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 27 20:42:54 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:42:54 -0000
Subject: New POA photos!
In-Reply-To: <bg0jf6+v6hq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg1dge+qes3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "naomimccormick" 
<naomi_blake at h...> wrote:
> I just wanted to see if anyone else had seen the new newsweek 
article 
> about PoA filming? There's a fantastic photo of Dan and Emma 
(outside 
> the whomping willow?). I am so excited about Alfonso Cuaron after 
> seeing this. You can get to the article from www.the-leaky-
> cauldron.org
> 
> Naomi
> 
> PS This is my first post. Hi guys :o)

Welcome Naomi!

Did you see this photo? 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp

I got the feeling this was out in the Forbidden Forest, and maybe 
they're looking at... well, go look at it and see what you think they 
might be looking at :-)

Anne U
(bouncing in anticipation of the first POA trailers in November)




From glcherry at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 27 21:04:03 2003
From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (stardancerofas)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:04:03 -0000
Subject: PoA Pics
Message-ID: <bg1eo3+jjo8@eGroups.com>

The pics are incredible! As disappointed as I am in OoP, and knowing
I'll probably be crying my eyes out during PoA, knowing what (they
say!) happens to Sirius two movies later, I'm gnashing my teeth to see
PoA. I just wish that they could have it out by Thanksgiving. It's not
fair to make us wait till June of 2004!

Emma, and Daniel look great in the pic. I don't normally SHIP, but
I've always thought that Harry and Hermione just seemed 'natural' for
each other. Just my opinion, Ron and Hermione people don't hit me please!

I just wish that Cuaron would keep his political views to himself in
his interviews, but I'm funny like that. I don't want politics in my
fantasy, and I don't want fantasy in my politics.
             Lorrie




From buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jul 27 22:25:07 2003
From: buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Su)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:25:07 -0000
Subject: New POA photos!
In-Reply-To: <bg1dge+qes3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg1jg3+o5md@eGroups.com>

Hermione still does'nt really look like Hermione to me! the 
hair..clothes..seems more Emma Watson than Hermione Granger. oh well 
I can over look that because I am impressed with the photo. 

I love how you can already see the drama in the image with no sound. 
Fantastic. I don't see why they need to change Cauron just yet.
I thought the pics were near the Whomping Willow too! but it could 
be another part of the ending. 




From insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 28 01:47:05 2003
From: insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk (Scott)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:47:05 -0000
Subject: PoA musings...
Message-ID: <bg1vap+v1hp@eGroups.com>

This picture is fabulous!

Wow.

It's good to finally have some visual *something* about this movie. 
Anyway I agree with the person who said that this doesn't really 
look like book!Hermione-- well, because it doesn't, but then I don't 
think Emma in PS & CoS was either. But the presence of pink is not 
altogether disconcerting. 

I can only say this now because I am quite comfortable with my 
perceptions, meaning, and I can say that I was pleasantly surpirsed 
at this, the movies did NOT change the books for me at all. 
Hogwarts, Privet Drive, the School Robes, Harry Ron & Hermione etc. 
etc. it all looked like it always has in my imagination.

This said, I'm not so worried about deviations in the movie. After 
all the movies are ALWAYS going to be secondary to the books, and if 
film!Hermione happens to like pink (and if that helps Emma Watson 
make a connection to her character in a way that improves that 
character) well-- I'm okay with that.

I really am excited about this film. Everything I've read makes me 
feel it's really going to be good...*I hope*. But, even if it is, I 
wonder whether it's possible for it to get one (or several) Oscar 
nods? I can't really think of any other film franchises except Lord 
of the Rings at the moment, but I'd think that Oscar doesn't 
particularly recognize such movies.

Everything else aside this photo makes me *very* happy as a H/H 
shipper especially since its subtitle mentions *hormones*. ;-) I do 
wonder, though, what things have (to paraphrase) "naturally come to 
the surface"...could it reflect things to come in the books? (Or do 
I think these kids are channeling their characters more than they 
are?)  


Hmmm...

Scott





From buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jul 28 06:30:41 2003
From: buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Su)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:30:41 -0000
Subject: PoA musings...
In-Reply-To: <bg1vap+v1hp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg2fuh+nfhl@eGroups.com>

I'm coming around to the pink actually (still to trendy) but It 
reminds me of the cover of Prisoner of Azkban UK Edition where Harry 
and Hermione are riding Buckbeak. You can see Hermione's jeans 
there. 




From suzloua at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 28 11:15:19 2003
From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:15:19 +0100
Subject: opening scene of PoA
Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV67z643tLQ9N0000a3f6@hotmail.com>

Matt Huber:
> ummm...The potter series has a traditional opening crane shot of 
>Privet drive.

Moi:
Er, no it doesn't. Matt, go back and watch PS again and tell me where the crane shot of Privet Drive is. Pre-titles it's McGonagall and Dumbledore dropping Harry off with the Dursleys; post titles it's Harry in his cupboard, then into the kitchen. The first exterior shot of Privet Drive is when they set off for the zoo, and it's not a crane shot.

Dan Feeney:
My opening would stun the audience, like Jackson does in the trilogy -
 they wouldn't be expecting it, it would "set the tone" WAY better 
than by letting the real subject of the film sneak up, as it were, 
and it has more art to it.

Me:
If they could find someone who could do for HP for Jackson did for LOTR (coughgilliamcough), then I would be ecstatic. LOTR fans who hate the movies purely on principal still cannot deny the movies are amazing in terms of craft. I don't know about anyone else, but the moment the Battle of Helm's Deep began in TTT, I could barely breathe, I felt like I was there. Plus, Jackson loves these movies like they're his children - the FOTR extended DVD is the DVD dipstick by which all other movies should be measured. He spent hours in the editing room and back on location making sure the DVDs and sequels were perfect. 

We need a director who will show the same amount of devotion to HP. Alright, so they are seen as kid's books rather than masterpieces like LOTR. They still mean a huge amount to the fans. PoA is my favourite book, and I will be distraught if it is handled in the same slapdash manner as the first two. Someone lock Columbus up (maybe in Azkaban) until book 7 has been filmed, he cannot be allowed to spoil the following films. And while you're at it, throw Kloves in there too. 

Dan:
We see 
it from the perspective, as in the books, of those who have assumed 
SB's guilt for 12 years. It puts us exactly where we're supposed to 
be, so that we know we are somewhere else by the end of it. 

Me:
I like your opening a lot. Same format as PS - the Sirius/Peter confrontation pre-titles cutting to Harry post-titles with a "Twelve years later" card (am thinking unfortunately they will cut the lovely first chapter where Harry is opening his birthday presents - I'd imagine they'll go straight for an owl appearing in his room in the morning with the Hogsmeade form). 

They could have one shot of Sirius looking menacingly at Peter, Peter sobbing loudly "James and Lily, Sirius! How could you?" and then the street blowing apart (with "HP and the PoA" shining out of the explosion) at the beginning; and then as Sirius tells the story in the Shack, continuing the flashback with the explosion fading to show Peter transforming and scurrying down into the sewer, as Sirius is taken away.  Oooh, I do like that. I think most of the Shrieking Shack should be told in flashback, it'd be easier to understand and would give Oldman more to do.

Matt:
>Thus >the opening shot will be a crane shot of #4 privet drive, most 
>likely zoming in through the window of Harry's room with him lying 
>in bed reading the Muggle paper with Sirius' picture on the front, 
>then the scene continues with Harry being called to dinner and 
>having the Muggle news in the background talking about the escaped 
>convict, which flows nicely to a small discussion of it with the 
>family, which segways to Aunt Marge, which begins Harry's 3rd year 
>adventure.

Me: 
Sorry, Matt, but this is just transcripting the book, as Dan said. That shot is exactly what Columbus would do (possibly excluding the shot of Harry's room - bit extraneous, they're trying to keep the running time down, remember). This movie needs to be handled with care - it's very important to setting up the rest of the series. CoS was the last movie that didn't really matter - from PoA onwards we are getting into important clues and significant characters that need developing. If we don't learn to love Sirius now, why will we care when he dies in OoP? It's not like he has a huge role in GoF or OoP - no, our affection for Sirius comes from his righteous anger at Peter and his crushing sorrow and remorse towards Harry for his part in James and Lily's death. I still can't read the bit where he says "I would never have betrayed James and Lily. I would have died first" without welling up (nor the bit where he asks Harry to come live with him, either).

As for my own idea of the PoA opening scene? Well, I'm quite fond of Oldman in his cell, thin as a rake, reading the Daily Prophet (we don't see the cover), before standing up, walking over to the bars, putting a hand on them, and then, and only then...smiling. 

BAM!! Cut to Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban.

Not as good as yrs, Dan, but maybe mine for the trailer :)

Susan
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 14:40:30 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:40:30 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]GoF director
Message-ID: <72.3039eecc.2c568fde@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/28/2003 6:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> what happened to the rumours about Steven Spielberg being  
> interested in GOF?

Spielberg wanted Haley Joel Osmont (sp?) as Harry and there was apparently 
some bad feelings generated when there was a resounding "NO" in response to that 
idea (since Haley Joel isn't British).  I much prefer Dan to Haley Joel as 
Harry anyway, although both are good actors.  And if you find old articles that 
ask Haley Joel (I don't know what people actually call him, so I'm using both 
names) if he wanted to play Harry, his responses are so snippy and immature, 
it's really surprising -- fine actor that he is, if he's going to be such a bad 
sport, we didn't need him as Harry anyway.  And no, I can't point you to 
those articles, it's been quite a while since I read them.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 14:44:14 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:44:14 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA pics
Message-ID: <103.3347dfe3.2c5690be@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/28/2003 6:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> I just wish that Cuaron would keep his political views to himself in
> his interviews, but I'm funny like that. I don't want politics in my
> fantasy, and I don't want fantasy in my politics.
>        Lorrie
> 

Yup, I agree completely!  I wish he'd kept his mouth shut about politics.  
But the photo -- wow, it's great!  They're looking up quite a bit, something 
tall or high has caught their eye.  I've been re-reading OoP and can't think what 
they would be looking at that's so high or tall, without Ron with them (I 
remember the Buckbeak incident, and Ron wasn't with them then, but what could 
they be looking at?  Hints would be appreciated!)

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 14:48:57 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:48:57 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA musings
Message-ID: <16d.1ff02c5d.2c5691d9@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/28/2003 6:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> I can't really think of any other film franchises except Lord 
> of the Rings at the moment, but I'd think that Oscar doesn't 
> particularly recognize such movies.
> 

Franchises (or at least series of movies with the same characters, etc., I 
can think of offhand):  The Matrix; The Godfather; Die Hard; Lethal Weapon; 
Crocodile Dundee; Shaft (I think there were several); Rocky; Alien; Terminator; 
what else?  Many of these have won Oscars for various things -- one of the 
"Godfather" movies got Best Picture, I believe.  But how many KIDS movies (and I 
don't really think of HP as "kids' movies" beyond CoS) have won Oscars?  I don't 
know, I'm not an Oscar buff enough to recall.  Anyone else know?

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From manda at qx.net  Mon Jul 28 17:55:43 2003
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:55:43 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
In-Reply-To: <001a01c3547b$55cf5eb0$a59ccdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <3F25012F.15213.6A4654@localhost>

On 27 Jul 2003 at 15:11, Richelle Votaw wrote:
> Cindy wrote:
> 
> > I agree, wow! And a very interesting article as well. Don't forget to listen 
> > to the audio link on there too, there is more on the actors and such.
> 
> I can't get it to work. :(  It makes Internet Explorer shut down every time I try.

Here's a direct link. It should work. Open it in Windows Media Player.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/asx/audio/28/nwk_072703_movies.asx

Manda
--
http://www.mandamia.com



From cate at eyestar.net  Mon Jul 28 14:54:44 2003
From: cate at eyestar.net (Cate)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:54:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA musings
References: <16d.1ff02c5d.2c5691d9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004101c35518$3095de10$e3a6e3d8@JAIME>

Lynda:
Franchises (or at least series of movies with the same characters, etc., I 
can think of offhand):  The Matrix; The Godfather; Die Hard; Lethal Weapon; 
Crocodile Dundee; Shaft (I think there were several); Rocky; Alien; Terminator; 
what else?  Many of these have won Oscars for various things -- one of the 
"Godfather" movies got Best Picture, I believe.  But how many KIDS movies (and I 
don't really think of HP as "kids' movies" beyond CoS) have won Oscars?  I don't 
know, I'm not an Oscar buff enough to recall.  Anyone else know?

Reply:
"Kids" movies tend not to do well with the Oscars. E.T. was nominated for a slew of Oscars in 1983 and Beauty and the Beast was the first and only animated film up for Best Picture. Thanks to the new Animated Feature category, most animated films at least have a shot. It would be a very cold day in hell if Harry Potter was ever nominated in any of the major categories. Films considered mainly for children such as Harry Potter or primarly sci-fi/fantasy such as Lord of the Rings, are often overlooked. Harry Potter has both going against it.

All three Godfather films were nominated for Best Picture, only the third one failed to garner the award. 

Cate

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From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 28 17:07:21 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:07:21 -0000
Subject: opening scene of PoA- suggested cameos
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV67z643tLQ9N0000a3f6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <bg3l89+8hii@eGroups.com>

Susan:
> If they could find someone who could do for HP for Jackson did for 
LOTR (coughgilliamcough), then I would be ecstatic. LOTR fans who 
hate the movies purely on principal still cannot deny the movies are 
amazing in terms of craft. I don't know about anyone else, but the 
moment the Battle of Helm's Deep began in TTT, I could barely 
breathe, I felt like I was there. Plus, Jackson loves these movies 
like they're his children - the FOTR extended DVD is the DVD dipstick 
by which all other movies should be measured. He spent hours in the 
editing room and back on location making sure the DVDs and sequels 
were perfect. 
> They could have one shot of Sirius looking menacingly at Peter, 
Peter sobbing loudly "James and Lily, Sirius! How could you?" and 
then the street blowing apart (with "HP and the PoA" shining out of 
the explosion) at the beginning; and then as Sirius tells the story 
in the Shack, continuing the flashback with the explosion fading to 
show Peter transforming and scurrying down into the sewer, as Sirius 
is taken away.  Oooh, I do like that. I think most of the Shrieking 
Shack should be told in flashback, it'd be easier to understand and 
would give Oldman more to do.

Yeah, Susan, it was the devotion to the books, to the whole sense of 
JRRT's meaning to people, of which Jackson was not only aware, but in 
a sense agreed with, as if Jackson were discovering a part of 
himself, coloured, of course, by his lurching participatory burp in 
Bree, that makes the movies successful in a way not connected 
entirely with the box office. Now, I believe RoTK will win the best 
picture oscar, simply because. (No brainer, if the first 2 films are 
any indication. The academy apparently is thinking the same thing, I 
suggest.)

And I don't think, in fact, JKR is all that far below JRRT in terms 
of relevance and depth - just not so "academic", as it were. 
Nevertheless, I have a quick question.

Suggested cameos

JKR - I'd like to see her as one of the muggles blasted in the 
confrontation (glimpsed in the retelling, not necessarily in my BANGY 
opening)

A. S. Byatt - glimpsed as fellow prisoner in Azkaban.

List Elves - Hogsmeade group shot



dan





From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 28 17:16:22 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:16:22 -0000
Subject: Cameos correction
Message-ID: <bg3lp6+6lfv@eGroups.com>

sorry, obvious not enought coffee when i first posted.

the list elves *of course* would be azkaban prisoners (peppy elf as 
bellatrix, yunno, that kind of thing) and byatt a Hogsmeade citizen

again, i appologize for the confusion

lol

dan




From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 21:12:45 2003
From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:12:45 -0000
Subject: New POA photos!
In-Reply-To: <bg1jg3+o5md@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg43kd+u5sj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Su" <buffyslays_uk at y...> wrote:
> Hermione still does'nt really look like Hermione to me! the 
> hair..clothes..seems more Emma Watson than Hermione Granger. oh 
well 
> I can over look that because I am impressed with the photo. 
> 
> I love how you can already see the drama in the image with no 
sound. 
> Fantastic. I don't see why they need to change Cauron just yet.
> I thought the pics were near the Whomping Willow too! but it could 
> be another part of the ending.

Me: Check out TLC they have more pictures from Newsweek -- can't wait 
to see this movie, June can't come fast enough.




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Mon Jul 28 22:03:02 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:03:02 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
References: <3F25012F.15213.6A4654@localhost>
Message-ID: <001b01c35554$077f8f80$41a2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Manda wrote:

> Here's a direct link. It should work. Open it in Windows Media Player.
> 
> http://www.msnbc.com/news/asx/audio/28/nwk_072703_movies.asx

Oh, thanks very much, that worked great!

I've now seen the additional pictures at TLC from Newsweek (and frantically rushed around town looking for one, apparently the issue isn't out in this area yet, they still have the June 28th issue).  Gary Oldman looks much better in character as Sirius, not too fond of Lupin, though.  Okay, I'll admit you can't see much in that picture, so I'll withhold my final judgement for the moment.  From what those pictures show us, Emma seems to be more expressive than in the past.  That's good.  

Did anyone notice the part under one of the pictures where it says Cuaron is going for a more hip look, including the actors occasionally wearing their own clothes?  Hmm.

Richelle


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From CLShannon at aol.com  Mon Jul 28 22:07:21 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:07:21 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Story on possible director for GOF/ POA Picture
Message-ID: <118.26f37968.2c56f899@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/28/03 3:03:58 PM, rvotaw at i-55.com writes:

<< 
Did anyone notice the part under one of the pictures where it says Cuaron is 
going for a more hip look, including the actors occasionally wearing their own 
clothes?  Hmm. >>

Saw the pictures just now on Leaky and wow, I'm amazed that such a big 
article is out so far from the movie being released! Cool ;-)
As for the kids and maybe using some of their own clothes - well, I certainly 
hope that godawful cardigan poor Dan wears isn't his! LOL! I mean, it's a 
Dudley hand me down, poor thing and he escaped from Privet Drive in it and since 
he did leave rather suddenly, it appears he didn't bring any of his other 
normal clothes. So he's stuck wearing that thing. I  doubt if Dan would wear 
something that dowdy ;-)
Great pics all around - I can't believe we didn't have advance notice of the 
article in Newsweek though. 
Love the pic of Dan and Alfonso on the train ;-) Alfonso looks rather 
friendly in that one!
Now I have to run around and find the issue ;-)
Cindy



From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 28 23:29:12 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:29:12 -0000
Subject: opening scene of PoA
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV67z643tLQ9N0000a3f6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <bg4bk8+4uqh@eGroups.com>


Susan:
Er, no it doesn't. Matt, go back and watch PS again and tell me where 
the crane shot of Privet Drive is. Pre-titles it's McGonagall and 
Dumbledore dropping Harry off with the Dursleys; post titles it's 
Harry in his cupboard, then into the kitchen. The first exterior shot 
of Privet Drive is when they set off for the zoo, and it's not a 
crane shot.
> Me:  Apparently I am in the minority.  SS Does actually begin with 
a crane shot (albeit a smaller one then CoS).  Last time I checked 
the opening scene is Dumbledore putting out the lights, which is an 
exterior of Privet drive, which does exactly as I said it did, which 
is set the scene of furutre events and set the "mood" of the film.  
The movement of the camera while zooming down the street to 
dumbledore is an example of a crane/dolly shot

> Susan:
> If they could find someone who could do for HP for Jackson did for 
LOTR (coughgilliamcough), then I would be ecstatic. LOTR fans who 
hate the movies purely on principal still cannot deny the movies are 
amazing in terms of craft. I don't know about anyone else, but the 
moment the Battle of Helm's Deep began in TTT, I could barely 
breathe, I felt like I was there. Plus, Jackson loves these movies 
like they're his children - the FOTR extended DVD is the DVD dipstick 
by which all other movies should be measured. He spent hours in the 
editing room and back on location making sure the DVDs and sequels 
were perfect. 

Me:
i am also, apparently, in the minority in thinking that we have 
raised Peter Jackson to such a level we can't look at the movies 
objectively.  I try and refrain from comparing the too becuase they 
were VERY different films and have VERY different audiences.  And I 
realize that this is an adult orientated group, which leads to this 
type of thinking, but we have to consider the main audience of HP is 
CHILDREN.  Thus making a film that would garner a PG-13 rating would 
not serve the books at all.

> 
> We need a director who will show the same amount of devotion to HP. 
Alright, so they are seen as kid's books rather than masterpieces 
like LOTR. They still mean a huge amount to the fans. PoA is my 
favourite book, and I will be distraught if it is handled in the same 
slapdash manner as the first two. Someone lock Columbus up (maybe in 
Azkaban) until book 7 has been filmed, he cannot be allowed to spoil 
the following films. And while you're at it, throw Kloves in there 
too. 

Me:  Dare I ask for specifics as to how you mean they were handled?
> 
 
 
> Me: 
> Sorry, Matt, but this is just transcripting the book, as Dan said. 
That shot is exactly what Columbus would do (possibly excluding the 
shot of Harry's room - bit extraneous, they're trying to keep the 
running time down, remember). This movie needs to be handled with 
care - it's very important to setting up the rest of the series. CoS 
was the last movie that didn't really matter - from PoA onwards we 
are getting into important clues and significant characters that need 
developing. If we don't learn to love Sirius now, why will we care 
when he dies in OoP? It's not like he has a huge role in GoF or OoP - 
no, our affection for Sirius comes from his righteous anger at Peter 
and his crushing sorrow and remorse towards Harry for his part in 
James and Lily's death. I still can't read the bit where he says "I 
would never have betrayed James and Lily. I would have died first" 
without welling up (nor the bit where he asks Harry to come live with 
him, either).

Matt:
Don't get me wrong.  I never said that the scene was not needed, I 
just challenged the placement of it.  A scene with Peter/Sirius would 
be better told later.  My example would be while Harry is in the 
Leaky Cauldron for 2 weeks.  He finds the story in the Daily Prophet 
and asks either Tom, or the ice cream lady (sorry forgot the name)  
about it and that person narrates the story and shows the flashback 
sequence.  It would make the story have more basis in magical terms 
and more effect on Harry as was the Scene with Hagrid in SS when 
Hagrid tries to explain to Harry his destiny.  Harry needs to have a 
trusting character explain it to him so he can beleive it.  This way 
the audience will understand why Harry has so much emotion about it.  
If the audience is just shown the Flashback then we won't have the 
connection to Harry.

> Susan:
> As for my own idea of the PoA opening scene? Well, I'm quite fond 
of Oldman in his cell, thin as a rake, reading the Daily Prophet (we 
don't see the cover), before standing up, walking over to the bars, 
putting a hand on them, and then, and only then...smiling. 
> 
> BAM!! Cut to Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban.
> 
> Not as good as yrs, Dan, but maybe mine for the trailer :)
> 
Matt:
Not a bad teaser.  Especially he Oldman mumbles in his "sinister" 
voice "he's at Hogwarts".
> 




From bethz1 at rcn.com  Tue Jul 29 00:26:01 2003
From: bethz1 at rcn.com (Ms. Found in a Bottle)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:26:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA pics
References: <103.3347dfe3.2c5690be@aol.com>
Message-ID: <005c01c35567$fd8992f0$6401a8c0@BethsComp>

----- Original Message -----
From: <artsylynda at aol.com>

> I've been re-reading OoP and can't think what
> they would be looking at that's so high or tall, without Ron with them (I
> remember the Buckbeak incident, and Ron wasn't with them then, but what
could
> they be looking at?  Hints would be appreciated!)

I'm thinking maybe they're looking at Dementors.  Weren't they without Ron
when
they encountered them outside the Shack.  I'm not positive, because I
haven't read POA
in a long time, but I thought it might be a possiblity.

Beth





From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 29 00:27:54 2003
From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:27:54 -0000
Subject: Cameos correction
In-Reply-To: <bg3lp6+6lfv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg4f2a+8p3o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Dan Feeney" <lunalovegood at s...> 
wrote:
> sorry, obvious not enought coffee when i first posted.
> 
> the list elves *of course* would be azkaban prisoners (peppy elf as 
> bellatrix, yunno, that kind of thing) and byatt a Hogsmeade citizen
> 
> again, i appologize for the confusion
> 


Forget a cameo for A.S. Byatt. She's such a mean-spirited smart-ass I 
think she'd do well as Bellatrix Lestrange. I mean, given her hatred 
of Harry Potter, it would be typecasting...

Anne U
(assumes ASB would do well in Bellatrix's foaming-at-the-mouth scenes)





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Jul 29 02:27:35 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:27:35 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]  POA Picture
References: <118.26f37968.2c56f899@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009d01c35578$fa17dc10$639dcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Cindy wrote:

> Saw the pictures just now on Leaky and wow, I'm amazed that such a big
> article is out so far from the movie being released! Cool ;-)

I was amazed too!  I wasn't expecting anything like that (with REAL
pictures) until after Christmas!

> As for the kids and maybe using some of their own clothes - well, I
certainly
> hope that godawful cardigan poor Dan wears isn't his! LOL! I mean, it's a

I'm sure it's not Dan's. :)  I was wondering about those jeans of Emma's.
They don't look very like Hermione.  And I'm certain those too small clothes
aren't Rupert's either.  Quite good for Ron, though.

From: <artsylynda at aol.com>

> I've been re-reading OoP and can't think what
> they would be looking at that's so high or tall, without Ron
> with them (I remember the Buckbeak incident, and Ron wasn't
> with them then, but what could they be looking at?  Hints
> would be appreciated!)

It looks to me like the post Shrieking shack scene where Lupin has already
turned werewolf, Pettigrew turned back into a rat, and Ron should be on the
ground around there somewhere.  We just can't see him.  And the other Harry
is probably across the lake, which we also can't see.  Which means they're
probably looking at the dementors coming on.

Richelle






From scully931 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 03:02:18 2003
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:02:18 -0000
Subject: is Fleur cast yet?
Message-ID: <bg4o3q+5mlt@eGroups.com>

I haven't been keeping up with posts here, so perhaps I've missed a 
lot of casting news. But, recently, I was having dinner with a 
friend of mine who works sound for a lot of the shows at Disney's 
MGM Studios. He told me that a girl who plays Ariel in The Little 
Mermaid show had been cast as Fleur. Now, I'm more likely not to 
believe the story than to believe it. The thing is, this is a very 
truthful guy. He told me her name (which I really don't want to put 
in print in case it isn't the truth) and that she had resigned from 
Disney and everything. He isn't familiar with the books, but called 
the character by name. (pretty much - he said she was cast as a 
visiting student for a contest at Hogwarts and the character had 
long blond hair and the was something like "Flower" or "Flurry" So, 
he at least knew what character he was talking about. I just have a 
hard time believing it since he said she was cast by someone she 
knew and never auditioned. This seems very unlikely to me. Has 
anyone heard anything? Thanks!

Deborah




From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 03:07:26 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:07:26 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] is Fleur cast yet?
Message-ID: <14d.22225aa4.2c573eee@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/28/03 8:03:50 PM, scully931 at yahoo.com writes:

<<  Has 

anyone heard anything? Thanks! >>

The CBBC Newsround page just put a story up today that casting for extras for 
GOF won't begin until January and cautioned kids not to send anything in 
until then. Other casting for the film won't even begin until the new year as well.
So, it doesn't sound like what you heard can possibly be true. 
The article also said that all casting for POA was, of course, finished ;-)
Cindy



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Tue Jul 29 03:14:58 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:14:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] is Fleur cast yet?
References: <14d.22225aa4.2c573eee@aol.com>
Message-ID: <051101c3557f$982dc5d0$639dcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Cindy wrote:

> The CBBC Newsround page just put a story up today that casting for extras for 
> GOF won't begin until January and cautioned kids not to send anything in 
> until then. Other casting for the film won't even begin until the new year as 
> well.
> So, it doesn't sound like what you heard can possibly be true. 
> The article also said that all casting for POA was, of course, finished ;-)

Speaking of casting, does anybody remember when the casting office opened for PoA?  I'm attempting to estimate when they're planning on beginning filming GoF.

Richelle


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From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 07:33:29 2003
From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:33:29 -0000
Subject: PoA Photos Posted
Message-ID: <bg5809+t2m5@eGroups.com>

Hi everyone,
Hope I didn't overstep here but I posted the Newsweek photos in the 
photo section.

Enjoy




From joj at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jul 29 13:52:30 2003
From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:52:30 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA pics
References: <103.3347dfe3.2c5690be@aol.com> <005c01c35567$fd8992f0$6401a8c0@BethsComp>
Message-ID: <001c01c355d8$a7864f80$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w>



  > I've been re-reading OoP and can't think what
  > they would be looking at that's so high or tall, without Ron with them (I
  > remember the Buckbeak incident, and Ron wasn't with them then, but what
  could
  > they be looking at?  Hints would be appreciated!)

  I'm thinking maybe they're looking at Dementors.  Weren't they without Ron
  when
  they encountered them outside the Shack.  I'm not positive, because I
  haven't read POA
  in a long time, but I thought it might be a possiblity.

  Beth



  Harry seems to be looking up pretty high.  Maybe he's looking up at the full moon while Lupin's changing.

  Joann

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From grace701 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 14:11:53 2003
From: grace701 at yahoo.com (Greicy de los Santos)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Emma's Hermione
In-Reply-To: <1059474180.443.3138.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030729141153.61575.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>

I actually don't have a problem with the way they're portraying Emma as Hermione.  We only hear about her buck teeth in book 1 and book 4, only to have them disappear.  I'm sure that scene will be cut out of movie 4, that's why they've never "enhanced" her teeth.  The only thing that's a bit off is, of course, the hair.  It wasn't poofy enough in movie 1 and it's never been close to to the "poofiness" since.  But it doesn't bother me one bit because it seems to me that we're still seeing her grow up which is, in my opinion, important.  It's exactly what I want to see:  the Trio growing up and viewing their changes, physical and emotional, as I've been reading in the book.
 
Also, the clothes Emma's wearing, doesn't bother me as well because I don't recall JKR mentioning how fashionable they are.  I like the idea of a fashionable book worm! ;-)
 
~Grace




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From CLShannon at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 15:51:49 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:49 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA pics
Message-ID: <11f.24429f5c.2c57f215@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/29/03 6:56:45 AM, joj at rochester.rr.com writes:

<<   I'm thinking maybe they're looking at Dementors.  Weren't they without 
Ron
  when
  they encountered them outside the Shack.  I'm not positive, because I
  haven't read POA
  in a long time, but I thought it might be a possiblity. >>

The first thing I thought of when I saw that picture of Harry shielding 
Hermione was when they were cowing from the whomping willow branches, trying to 
follow the 'dog' who dragged Ron off.
Cindy
Who is off to scan thru POA again to find those scenes ;-)



From Audra1976 at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 16:33:19 2003
From: Audra1976 at aol.com (Audra1976 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:33:19 EDT
Subject: opening scene of PoA
Message-ID: <199.1dcb8df7.2c57fbcf@aol.com>

"Susan Atherton" <suzloua at hotmail.com> writes:

> As for my own idea of the PoA opening scene? Well, I'm quite fond of Oldman 
> in his cell, thin as a rake, reading the Daily Prophet (we don't see the 
> cover), before standing up, walking over to the bars, putting a hand on them, 
> and then, and only then...smiling. 
> 
> BAM!! Cut to Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban.


Oh man, between this idea and the tattoos in the pictures of Gary Oldman in 
character, I just keep thinking Max Cady from "Cape Fear."  Can't you just 
picture Sirius all tattooed, shirtless, and sweaty in his cell doing push ups and 
pull ups, maybe trying to get some strength up for his big break out.  Then he 
can be grasping the bars, grinning maniacally and repeating, "He's at 
Hogwarts!  He's at Hogwarts! he's at Hogwarts!..."  LOL.  

Actually I do love the idea of opening with the Sirius/Peter confrontation, 
zooming out, showing the explosion, and then zooming back in and showing just a 
hole where Peter was, people screaming, and Sirius in the middle of the 
chaos, laughing.  So what if the first two films opened on Privet Drive?  We've got 
a brand new director now.  There are going to be a lot of changes.  

What if they open with the Sirius/Peter confrontation, then go 12 years later 
to Privet Drive, the Hogsmeade form, and the news report on TV about Sirius 
escaping.  Then they can flash to Sirius again, somehow showing that he is in 
the cave right near Hogsmeade, and then they can have him muttering, "He's at 
Hogwarts...he's at Hogwarts...he's at Hogwarts."

-Audra-


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From tmarends at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 17:32:07 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:32:07 -0000
Subject: PoA musings
In-Reply-To: <16d.1ff02c5d.2c5691d9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bg6b2n+ihsm@eGroups.com>

Both The Godfather and The Godfather 2 won best picture Oscars.  The 
other franchises you left out was Star Wars, Star Trek, Back to the 
Future, and Indiana Jones.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/28/2003 6:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> > I can't really think of any other film franchises except Lord 
> > of the Rings at the moment, but I'd think that Oscar doesn't 
> > particularly recognize such movies.
> > 
> 
> Franchises (or at least series of movies with the same characters, 
etc., I 
> can think of offhand):  The Matrix; The Godfather; Die Hard; Lethal 
Weapon; 
> Crocodile Dundee; Shaft (I think there were several); Rocky; Alien; 
Terminator; 
> what else?  Many of these have won Oscars for various things -- one 
of the 
> "Godfather" movies got Best Picture, I believe.  But how many KIDS 
movies (and I 
> don't really think of HP as "kids' movies" beyond CoS) have won 
Oscars?  I don't 
> know, I'm not an Oscar buff enough to recall.  Anyone else know?
> 
> Lynda 
> * * *
> ". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP
> 
> 
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From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 19:41:02 2003
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:41:02 -0000
Subject: Casting Summary--Fill in the Blanks
In-Reply-To: <20030727164939.57012.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bg6ike+a0p3@eGroups.com>

Matt Huber <mhuber92211 at y...> wrote:
> Ok, I thought that with all the discussion about who should be who, 
We should put together a summary for this.  I am beginning to forget 
everyone's thoughts.  Too many characters to keep track of 
nowadays :)  ets just keep cutting and Pasting when we have ideas.
>  
> Cedric - 
> Cho - 
> Fleur - 
> Roger Davies - 
> Maxine - all good if she's big and French
> Karakoff - Ben Kingsley (i'm forgetting his description, maybe Ben 
is too short)
> Crouch - Michael Caine
> Crouch Jr - Ewen McGregor
> Moody - Michael Gough (watch him in "Sleepy Hollow") or Derek Jacobi
> Krum - 
> Bagman - Stephen Fry (blond, of course)
> Trelawney - Tracey Ullman or Emma Thompson 
> Narcissa - Kristin Scott Thomas
> Roberts - 
> Avery - 
> Bertha - Imelda Staunton (too bad Carol Kane is not a brit)
> Frank Bryce - Michael Gough would be good here too
> Figg - Phyllida Law
> Podmore - 
> Mundungus - Ian Holm ("S'up Figgy?")
> Kingsley - Djimon Hounsou 
> Bill Weasley - Orlando Bloom
> Charlie Weasley - Billy Boyd
> Umbridge - 
> Bellatrix - Miranda Richardson
> Astronomy Teacher - 
> Owl Testers - 
> Tonks - Keira Knightley 
> MacNair - Christopher Lee
>  
> I am sure I forgot some.  Please add accordingly.

********
I filled in some blanks.  Wishful thinking, right?

Marci




From fashionmenu at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 29 22:37:35 2003
From: fashionmenu at hotmail.com (dublinaaireland)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:37:35 -0000
Subject: is Fleur cast yet?
In-Reply-To: <051101c3557f$982dc5d0$639dcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <bg6svf+v9lj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
Cindy wrote:
The CBBC Newsround page just put a story up today that casting for 
extras for GOF won't begin until January and cautioned kids not to 
send anything in until then. Other casting for the film won't even 
begin until the new year as well.

-snipped-

Speaking of casting, does anybody remember when the casting office 
opened for PoA?  I'm attempting to estimate when they're planning on 
beginning filming GoF.
Richelle


<Dublina> Yes, but it mentions *extras* on CBBC Newsround _not_ 
actual roles such as Fleur.  Also the casting office that was 
mentioned for POA is the same as GOF.  Just a PO Box address.
D




From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue Jul 29 22:59:06 2003
From: patientx3 at aol.com (HunterGreen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:59:06 -0000
Subject: Emma's Hermione
In-Reply-To: <20030729141153.61575.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bg6u7q+rjhk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Greicy de los Santos 
<grace701 at y...> wrote:
> I actually don't have a problem with the way they're portraying 
>Emma as Hermione.  We only hear about her buck teeth in book 1 and 
>book 4, only to have them disappear.  I'm sure that scene will be 
cut out of movie 4, that's why they've never "enhanced" her teeth.  

The teeth thing has never bothered me either. Its too bad that means 
that scene will have to be cut out though. 


>The only thing that's a bit off is, of course, the hair.  It wasn't 
>poofy enough in movie 1 and it's never been close to to 
>the "poofiness" since.  But it doesn't bother me one bit because it 
>seems to me that we're still seeing her grow up which is, in my 
>opinion, important.  

The hair has been bothering me. In the first movie they were making 
an effort at least (it was pretty bushy), but then in the second 
movie it was only curly, and judging from the pictures its not even 
long anymore (it barely goes below than her shoulders). That is 
something that's referenced *a lot* in the books; even if Emma Watson 
wanted to cut her hair, they could still have her wear a wig or 
someting.  


> Also, the clothes Emma's wearing, doesn't bother me as well because 
I don't recall JKR mentioning how fashionable they are.  I like the 
>idea of a fashionable book worm! ;-)

Personally, based on her character, I doubt Hermione would wear a 
pink jacket, but you're right that there really isn't any mention of 
her clothes in the books.


-Rebecca




From twelvecabins at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 23:06:52 2003
From: twelvecabins at yahoo.com (Sara)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 650
In-Reply-To: <1059474180.443.3138.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030729230652.68658.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com>

Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:15:19 +0100
   From: "Susan Atherton" <suzloua at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: opening scene of PoA

>As for my own idea of the PoA opening scene? Well,
>I'm quite fond of 
>Oldman in his cell, thin as a rake, reading the
>Daily >Prophet (we don't 
>see the cover), before standing up, walking over to
>the bars, putting a 
>hand on them, and then, and only then...smiling. 

>BAM!! Cut to Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of
>Azkaban.

OH, I absolutely love that opening idea! It would
perfectly set the mood for the entire film. A stormy
night at Azkaban, Fudge walking along the row of
cells... Suddenly a voice from inside one cell asks
Fudge for his copy of "The Daily Prophet" because he
misses doing the crossword... Fudge regarding him with
surprise and some alarm at how sane and reasonable he
still seems after so many years... Then Oldman
unfolding the Prophet to see a picture of the Weasleys
- and Scabbers - in Egypt...

Perfect! Susan, you have a future in directing. I
foresee it. ;)

And off-topic - someone mentioned believing that RotK
will indeed win Best Picture this year. It certainly
had better win. The Oscars will have no relevance if
they refuse to reward true cinematic achievement
because of genre or subject matter.

Sara Edhelwen


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From xvaldivia at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 29 23:39:22 2003
From: xvaldivia at yahoo.com (Ximena Valdivia)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:39:22 -0000
Subject: Orlando Bloom as Cedric??
In-Reply-To: <bf5o40+ku1t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg70ja+j8b2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "daughterofthedust" 
<daughterofthedust at y...> wrote:
> Seeing as casting directors often use actors in their twenties to 
> play teenagers, do you think Orlando Bloom is too old (or possibly 
> too well-known, now) to play Cedric Diggory?

I heard a rumour that Cedric part was between Jack Ryder or Henry 
Cavill, I don't know where Jack Ryder is been but I saw Henry Cavill 
in Count of Monte Cristo and I think he looks very fitting for 
Cedric part. Henry is 20 right now and Jack 23 or something like 
that.

Ximena




From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Wed Jul 30 00:23:03 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:23:03 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: is Fleur cast yet?
In-Reply-To: <bg6svf+v9lj@eGroups.com>
References: <051101c3557f$982dc5d0$639dcdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030729192137.00b82d90@mail.kriselda.net>

dublinaaireland recently mentioned:

><Dublina> Yes, but it mentions *extras* on CBBC Newsround _not_
>actual roles such as Fleur.  Also the casting office that was
>mentioned for POA is the same as GOF.  Just a PO Box address.

Since they've not even finished filming POA yet, don't have a director 
signed and, IIRC, don't even have the main recurring stars (such as Dan, 
Emma & Rupert) signed to contracts to appear in it yet, the odds that the 
role of Fleur having been cast are roughly nil.




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From emelinemoore at mianla.net  Wed Jul 30 02:46:37 2003
From: emelinemoore at mianla.net (Emeline Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:46:37 -0000
Subject: Questions about POA pictures
Message-ID: <bg7bid+ks4t@eGroups.com>

I lurk on HPFGU but hadn't made it here until today when
I got my copy of Newsweek, for August 4th and was thrilled to see 
news on POA however, I was horrified to find Hermione/Emma in pink 
with the rainbow belt but all was forgiven to see the picture of 
Remus and Sirius in the Shreiking Shack... but I've read the last 
few pages of posts and I seem to be a bit confused, is this picture

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/Fantasy/Harry_Potter/Harry_Potter_a
nd_the_Prisoner_of_Azkaban/prisoner7.jpg

the picture that WB wanted off TLC? Or is there another one? Also I 
thought I read someone say something about a recent picture of Alan 
Rickman? Could someone set me straight?

Thanks,
Emeline




From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 03:29:02 2003
From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:29:02 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
Message-ID: <bg7e1u+g2ro@eGroups.com>

>From the The Sun tabloid ... http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-
2003350441,00.html

Marianne




From CLShannon at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 03:45:11 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:45:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Questions about POA pictures
Message-ID: <155.2201de03.2c589947@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/29/03 8:24:47 PM, emelinemoore at mianla.net writes:

<< the picture that WB wanted off TLC? Or is there another one? Also I 

thought I read someone say something about a recent picture of Alan 

Rickman? Could someone set me straight? >>

The photos on TLC now are all those from the new article in Newsweek. 
The one with Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman, Rupert Grint and two unidentified 
young girls posing outside the studio was posted by TLC last week, but Warner 
Brothers asked them to take it down since the actors weren't in full costume 
(Alan was in regular clothes and Gary was in partial costume and makeup, although 
Rupert looked to be in full makeup and costume). WB wanted it taken down 
because it wasn't a pic from the movie and also because Gary wasn't in full makeup 
and costume, so it might give a false impression of what Sirius would look 
like.
The photo is still up in other places though, such as www.digicasey.com/
It is a shot taken outside the studio, evidently the two girls were visitors 
and they got a photo taken with Alan, Gary and Rupert.
The url you gave in your post is of one of the pics from the Newsweek article 
- Alan Rickman isn't in that photo, so either Snape hasn't uncloaked himself 
or he is already knocked out and not in the scene ;-) That pic has the kids of 
course, Gary as Sirius and David Thewlis in the background as Lupin.
Hope that helps
Cindy



From swmil at msn.com  Wed Jul 30 03:46:32 2003
From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:46:32 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7e1u+g2ro@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7f2o+aabk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marianne" <autumn_sprite at y...> 
wrote:
> From the The Sun tabloid ... http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-
> 2003350441,00.html
> 
> Marianne

The link didn't work, but if you go to the Sun site and type in harry 
potter it'll take you to the article w/the pictures. One is of 
Hermione w/her wand against Draco. Awesome!




From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 03:57:23 2003
From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:57:23 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7f2o+aabk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7fn3+hu62@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "whizbee2000" <swmil at m...> wrote:
> The link didn't work, but if you go to the Sun site and type in 
harry 
> potter it'll take you to the article w/the pictures. One is of 
> Hermione w/her wand against Draco. Awesome!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003350441,00.html

Hope that helps ... Marianne




From CLShannon at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 03:59:48 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:59:48 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More PoA pics
Message-ID: <162.23d56e25.2c589cb4@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/29/03 8:52:37 PM, swmil at msn.com writes:

<< The link didn't work, but if you go to the Sun site and type in harry 

potter it'll take you to the article w/the pictures. One is of 

Hermione w/her wand against Draco. Awesome! >>

Oh my, those are different from the ones in Newsweek! 
I wonder if Leaky Cauldron knows yet ;-)
I wonder where they are in that one with McGonagall - any ideas? It looks 
like a ballroom or something, but with vines ;-)
Cindy



From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Jul 30 04:06:01 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:06:01 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Questions about POA pictures
References: <bg7bid+ks4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004501c3564f$e3f47600$1ea1cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Emeline wrote:

> news on POA however, I was horrified to find Hermione/Emma in pink 
> with the rainbow belt but all was forgiven to see the picture of 

I must say I find it a bit amusing that everyone (not just Emeline, by any means) seems so horrified at the thought of Hermione in pink.  I have no idea where the early images of the trio came from, before the movie, I mean, but they all had Hermione in a pink shirt.  Harry's got the red and white stripes, Ron in a purple shirt, and Hermione in pink, with jeans.  So just lacking the rainbow belt.  I don't mind the pink.  Really.

Those pictures from The Sun were great.  What exactly is McGonagall stopping Harry for?  When do y'all think this is? If must not be coming in from the train, because she's just stopping him.  Looks more like between classes somewhere.  What am I forgetting?

Richelle


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From CLShannon at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 04:13:36 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:13:36 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Questions about POA pictures
Message-ID: <182.1e8a1aab.2c589ff0@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/29/03 9:07:07 PM, rvotaw at i-55.com writes:

<< 
I must say I find it a bit amusing that everyone (not just Emeline, by any 
means) seems so horrified at the thought of Hermione in pink.  I have no idea 
where the early images of the trio came from, before the movie, I mean, but they 
all had Hermione in a pink shirt.  Harry's got the red and white stripes, Ron 
in a purple shirt, and Hermione in pink, with jeans.  So just lacking the 
rainbow belt.  I don't mind the pink.  Really. >>

I agree. I find the whole clothes uproar amusing myself ;-) I mean, really, 
in the first film, all three kids are in Muggle clothes for the big climax, 
they wear them on the train before they change into robes, Ron and Harry didn't 
even change into robes before rushing into school in COS, they wear them in the 
spider scene...what's the big uproar about?
They don't wear robes constantly, just in classes and in the great hall. I'm 
sure it's like most boarding schools, they wear the uniform during school 
hours and after hours or weekend, they change to their regular clothes.
As for the pink, I don't see what the big deal is either. Did JKR ever say in 
the books that Hermoine would rather be caught dead than in pink?
And don't even read some of the comments on the Leaky Cauldron site! LOL! 
Those folks are calling the clothes 'stylish' - ahem, if that Dudley sweater and 
baggy pants on Dan is stylish, well..... ;-) I don't think the clothes are 
'stylish' in the way people are meaning. They look like regular old casual 
clothes to me.

Anyway, sorry to rant, but it's bugging me how so many people are moaning 
about how awful the movie is going to be because the kids are wearing sweaters 
and jeans ;-)
I am sure they wear robes during the classes - remember the pic we got a long 
time ago of them walking down the hill from Hagrid's hut? They had robes on 
then.
I do like the hood thing Dan is wearing in that pic on the Sun page with 
McGonagall though <g>
Cindy



From draco382 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 04:56:06 2003
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:56:06 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <162.23d56e25.2c589cb4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>

Delurking for a moment to resurface and ask a question:

>From the pics from the Sun, does it look like everyone is in casual 
clothes ALL the time??  Look at the pic w/McGonagal -- the students 
in the background are all in their jeans and sweats.  Even in the 
pic where Hermione has wand up to Draco (Draco's new hair-do 
noticed!!) Draco, Crabbe and Goyle are all in what looks like their 
jeans and sweatshirts.  Has Hogwarts gone totally casual now?  

~draco382 (whose hair isn't even remotely as cool as movie!Draco's)

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:
> Oh my, those are different from the ones in Newsweek! 
> I wonder if Leaky Cauldron knows yet ;-)
> I wonder where they are in that one with McGonagall - any ideas? 
It looks 
> like a ballroom or something, but with vines ;-)
> Cindy




From swmil at msn.com  Wed Jul 30 05:02:25 2003
From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:02:25 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7jh1+k1k0@eGroups.com>

I think really people just love the books so much, that they get 
wierd thinking that some director that hasn't been involved until 
this point might potentially "mess it all up." Personally, I'm 
curious to see how this film turns out. We all love the story so 
much, that I think many folks are jumping to hasty conclusions about 
the movie just based on their clothes. Now, if the whole movie is 
turned upside down to deviate waaaaayy too far from the 
books....well, I hate the see the fallout!!! hee hee
Wendi




From swmil at msn.com  Wed Jul 30 05:06:05 2003
From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:06:05 -0000
Subject: Maggie Daniel picture
In-Reply-To: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7jnt+bq0b@eGroups.com>

I think this scene is right before they are leaving to go to 
Hogsmeade (and Harry can't go). It would make sense that everyone 
would be dressed casually.
Wendi




From swmil at msn.com  Wed Jul 30 05:02:24 2003
From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:02:24 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7jh0+bdfp@eGroups.com>

I think really people just love the books so much, that they get 
wierd thinking that some director that hasn't been involved until 
this point might potentially "mess it all up." Personally, I'm 
curious to see how this film turns out. We all love the story so 
much, that I think many folks are jumping to hasty conclusions about 
the movie just based on their clothes. Now, if the whole movie is 
turned upside down to deviate waaaaayy too far from the 
books....well, I hate the see the fallout!!! hee hee
Wendi





From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 30 05:53:54 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:53:54 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg7mhi+apa4@eGroups.com>

Did anyone think the first two movies were actually good? I mean, I 
haven't met anyone older than 8 who thought they were good movies, in 
themselves. I know a number of HP fans, none quite as much as myself, 
however, and they felt the movies were, "uh, okay". I think most of 
us only watched them for fun - we weren't expecting another more than 
an after school special, and we got nothing more than an after school 
special. So what is a real director, like Cauron, to do?

He's going to flush all that Columbus stuff out, for one thing, clear 
the drains, as it were. This is a good thing. If it takes muggle 
clothing all over the place, that is also a good thing.

Now, maybe it's just the fact that I actually like well-made movies. 
Maybe it's that I suspect the Rocky Horror Picture Show fandom school 
of HP movie appreciation needs a little bit of psychological content, 
to give it an edge. Columbus' vision of the books is, upon second 
viewing, precisely Byatt's interpretation of the series. Yes, 
Columbus was THAT BAD. No wonder he left the logic puzzle out. He 
couldn't make it work, he couldn't get his lens around it. And the 
scene with Hedwig and HP in the dorm, first night at Hoggy Hoggy. Did 
someone hold a gun to his head to shoot that?

The only semi-artistic parts of the second movie were the diary 
interiors, IMNSHO.

Look at the still with Minerva. There's more grace and subtlty in 
that picture than in the entire 2 Columbus travesties.

I sound like Darrin re: Snape. LOL.

dan




From CLShannon at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 06:08:29 2003
From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:08:29 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More PoA pics
Message-ID: <152.2242d8d2.2c58badd@aol.com>


In a message dated 7/29/03 10:55:06 PM, lunalovegood at shaw.ca writes:

<< Did anyone think the first two movies were actually good? >>

Well, I liked them and thought they were good ;-) But then again, I didn't 
read the books until after I saw the first movie on HBO, so I fell for the 
visuals first and then read the books ;-)

There are some things I might have done differently in the first two films, 
but overall, I loved them and am looking forward the third one  a lot <g>

I guess my perspective is different from the folks who read the books first. 
Maybe if I had, I would have anticipated the movies with fear and trepidation, 
etc. It seems that the majority of the fandom is this way and they, of 
course, were not satisfied with the films. I guess it's all about expectations. When 
I read the first book, I had already seen the visuals of the movie, so the 
characters in my head looked like the actors from the movie, same with the sets, 
etc.

When I  joined lists and discussion groups, I found that the favorite thing 
was to trash the movies and Columbus (not everyone did this, but a lot of folks 
did and still do <g>). I grew tired of all the negativity, frankly.
Anyway, I  love the films and all the actors in them, have no problem with 
the casting of the third film or the new director, etc. I don't care if they 
pare down quidditch to one match and don't care that Oliver Wood isn't in the 
film ;-)

It is Harry's story, after all, so as long as they stick to the major plot 
points, which are about him anyway, I'll be happy.
I just want to see it! Next June seems soooo long off!
Cindy



From mbouhon at noos.fr  Wed Jul 30 09:43:32 2003
From: mbouhon at noos.fr (Mathilde Bouhon)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:43:32 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Questions about POA pictures
In-Reply-To: <182.1e8a1aab.2c589ff0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4857EDBE-C272-11D7-AC9E-0050E46E566F@noos.fr>


Le mercredi, 30 juil 2003, ? 06:13 Europe/Paris, CLShannon at aol.com a 
?crit :
> Did JKR ever say in the books that Hermoine would rather be caught 
> dead than in pink?
>

LOL!


> Anyway, sorry to rant, but it's bugging me how so many people are 
> moaning
> about how awful the movie is going to be because the kids are wearing 
> sweaters
> and jeans ;-)

LOL again
Totally agree with you (and Richelle)! I also find all this uproar 
rather amusing? And like someone said before about Hermione's clothing, 
it's nice to have a fashionable bookworm!  ;-) (then I can relate even 
more to Hermione, even though *I* would be rather caught dead than in 
pink?)


> I am sure they wear robes during the classes - remember the pic we got 
> a long
> time ago of them walking down the hill from Hagrid's hut? They had 
> robes on
> then.
> I do like the hood thing Dan is wearing in that pic on the Sun page 
> with
> McGonagall though <g>


Oh, yeah, all those hoods everywhere (Hermione, Harry?) make me very 
happy as well. I like hooded sweaters.  :-)
I was a bit worried when I saw all those pics in casual clothes, until 
I remembered those earlier pics of the Trio in robes? Guess all these 
new pics are from after class hours.

As for the pic with Minerva, to me it looks like all the kids are off 
to Hogsmeade? Probably Minerva is stopping Harry and explaining he 
unfortunately cannot go with the others (look at Ron and Hermione 
waiting for him); I wouldn't be surprised if in the movie they had 
"combined" the scene where Harry goes and asks McGonagall if he cannot 
go even without authorization and the first Hogsmeade departure.

Geat pics anyway, I am more and more excited about the movie as days 
(and pics) go by!


Mathilde (in a green hooded sweater)

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From h_potter_uk at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 30 13:07:36 2003
From: h_potter_uk at yahoo.co.uk (Jenny)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:07:36 -0000
Subject: Pink! (was: Re: Questions about POA pictures)
In-Reply-To: <004501c3564f$e3f47600$1ea1cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
Message-ID: <bg8fuo+gljb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i...> 
wrote:
> Emeline wrote:
> 
> > news on POA however, I was horrified to find Hermione/Emma in 
pink 
> > with the rainbow belt but all was forgiven to see the picture of 
> 
> I must say I find it a bit amusing that everyone (not just Emeline, 
by any means) seems so horrified at the thought of Hermione in pink.  
I have no idea where the early images of the trio came from, before 
the movie, I mean, but they all had Hermione in a pink shirt.  
Harry's got the red and white stripes, Ron in a purple shirt, and 
Hermione in pink, with jeans.  So just lacking the rainbow belt.  I 
don't mind the pink.  Really.
> 

Me:
Actually, book!Hermione does wear pink.  It's in the first book - she 
has a pink dressing gown.  Um...<<looking it up frantically in her 
edition of SS>> pg. 155 in US Sorcerer's Stone 'bout the middle of 
the page.  Sorry - just had to point that out ;)

Yours in Gryffindor,
Jenny :)  




From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 14:56:59 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:56:59 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA pictures
Message-ID: <148.166b611b.2c5936bb@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 2:09:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> The first thing I thought of when I saw that picture of Harry shielding 
> Hermione was when they were cowing from the whomping willow branches, trying 
> to 
> follow the 'dog' who dragged Ron off.
> Cindy
> 

I thought that too, but then I thought it more likely they'd be looking down 
at the spot where Ron disappeared than up at the tree branches.  I guess if it 
nearly hit Hermione, then it would be possible she'd be looking down at the 
spot where Ron disappeared, while Harry looks up at the branches.  I got a copy 
of the magazine last night, and it was worth it to see the photos in better 
detail than online.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 14:59:18 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:59:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] opening scene of PoA
Message-ID: <d3.20726d92.2c593746@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 2:09:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> Then he 
> can be grasping the bars, grinning maniacally and repeating, "He's at 
> Hogwarts!  He's at Hogwarts! he's at Hogwarts!..."  LOL.  
> 
He wouldn't be grinning, he'd be growling, shrieking, but not grinning -- 
it's Wormtail he's talking about, and he's enraged that he's at Hogwarts.  I can 
see him frothing at the mouth as he spits it out, "He's at Hogwarts!"  I do 
like your idea for the opening scene.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 15:07:48 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:07:48 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] More PoA pics
Message-ID: <1a6.182fde2f.2c593944@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 2:09:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-
> 2003350441,00.html
> 
> 

Did you see Malfoy has HARRY'S HAIRSTYLE now???  And in the Newsweek photos 
(in the magazine, dunno if this shows on the website) Dan has his hair pushed 
out of his face in two pictures -- no "fringe."  Emma said Cuaron likes to do 
takes "naturally" (I don't remember her term), so if someone's eating an apple 
before they shoot, they're still eating the apple in the scene.  Maybe Dan 
pushed his hair out of his face while taking direction, and they just shot that 
way.  Or maybe somebody hollered "MAKEUP" and somebody came in and touched up 
his scar and put his hair back in his face.  (I remember Milton Berle's old 
show when somebody would holler "MAKEUP" and someone would come bash Berle in the 
face with a pillow-sized powderpuff -- always good for a laugh.  ;->)  YIkes, 
my age is showing!!!

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 15:13:33 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:13:33 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] More PoA pics
Message-ID: <9f.3bdae8a5.2c593a9d@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 2:09:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> Draco, Crabbe and Goyle are all in what looks like their 
> jeans and sweatshirts. 

Is that Crabbe and Goyle with him?  The one nearest the camera looks like 
part of that duo, but the boy farthest away doesn't -- and both of them have had 
their dark hair buzzed off.  Wonder what the twins' hair looks like now?  The 
casual clothes, and Emma in pink don't bother me -- they're kids, their taste 
in clothes will change radically nearly every year they're in school.  Harry's 
pants don't look like they're Dudley's, nor did the ones he wore in previous 
movies look tons too big for him, except the ones he wore when he was at the 
Dursleys.  I figured he was buying himself things that fit once he got away 
from there, for his "casual" clothes.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Jul 30 15:16:13 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:16:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Maggie Daniel picture
Message-ID: <152.22473030.2c593b3d@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 2:09:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> I think this scene is right before they are leaving to go to 
> Hogsmeade (and Harry can't go). It would make sense that everyone 
> would be dressed casually.
> Wendi
> 

In the books, when they're in Hogsmeade in winter, their cloaks and robes are 
mentioned -- especially that time when Harry first snuck through the tunnel 
and didn't have his cloak on, but Hermione and Ron did.  

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now."  Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 30 15:58:36 2003
From: insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk (Scott)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:58:36 -0000
Subject: Clothes/ Re: Maggie Daniel picture
In-Reply-To: <152.22473030.2c593b3d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bg8pvc+8s0u@eGroups.com>

Wendi wrote:
 "I think this scene is right before they are leaving to go to 
 Hogsmeade (and Harry can't go). It would make sense that everyone 
would be dressed casually."

--Also notice that Hermione appears to be carrying some sort of 
messenger bag which makes a lot of sense if she's going to 
Hogsmeade.  I really like the look of this (and all the other 
photos), and the more I see of their new clothes the more and more I 
like them. In any case Hermione's pink jacket looks *much* better 
than that horrible outfit she wore for the climax of PS/SS with the 
white stockings...urgh! 

I do think these pictures look much more natural. I just hope that 
it's going to be as good as it appears it will...

BTW, I saw "A Little Princess" recently and it was really quite 
good. I know people have discussed this before, but if you haven't 
seen it I recommend that you do. 

Also is "Y Tu Mama Tambien" any good? I know it's supposedly quite 
erotic, but I haven't heard anyone say whether it's a good film. 
(I'd like to see it, but one can't find any foreign titles in this 
town). 

Scott





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Jul 30 17:23:02 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:23:02 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First 2 movies (was Re: More PoA pics)
References: <bg7mhi+apa4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <016801c356bf$3bfd3ca0$84a0cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Dan wrote:

> Did anyone think the first two movies were actually good? I mean, I 
> haven't met anyone older than 8 who thought they were good movies, in 
> themselves. I know a number of HP fans, none quite as much as myself, 

Well, I thought they were good.  Not well made, though, which is I think your intention.  The kids acting left a lot to be desired in the first film, but I'll get back to that in a minute.  But the improvement in the acting of Daniel and Rupert to the second movie was quite good.  Personally, I still thought Emma looked very much as though she were acting, it didn't flow well with her.  Fortunately it can pass sometimes because of the way Hermione is.  But it's still noticeable.

Now, as for the acting ability or lack thereof in the first film, I put all of that blame on Chris Columbus.  True, Rupert and Emma had never acted in a movie, so that might have been a bit tough.  I read something somewhere about having trouble keeping Rupert from looking at the cameras in the first film.  Daniel had acted in David Copperfield (and Tailor of Panama, but that was such a small part) and did a very good job.  He was extremely believeable.  Any acting problems coming from him in my mind were due to Chris Columbus not getting it out properly.  There are times when he was stiff, not relaxed as should be the case.  That sort of thing.

The flow in both movies was terrible.  The choppiness between scenes and so on.  What amuses me greatly is the trouble they went to filming the scene of Harry and Hedwig in the snow to show passing of time, yet nothing else ever indicated time passing, so why bother?

So basically, I loved the kids, loved the adult actors in both movies, but they were not well made movies.  

Richelle


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From Tasukibeth1 at cs.com  Wed Jul 30 18:24:39 2003
From: Tasukibeth1 at cs.com (Beth in Sacramento)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:24:39 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7j56+sals@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg92h7+kd8b@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, 
"draco382" wrote:
> Delurking for a moment to resurface and ask a question:
> 
> From the pics from the Sun, does it look like everyone is in casual 
> clothes ALL the time??  Look at the pic w/McGonagal -- the students 
> in the background are all in their jeans and sweats.  Even in the 
> pic where Hermione has wand up to Draco (Draco's new hair-do 
> noticed!!) Draco, Crabbe and Goyle are all in what looks like their 
> jeans and sweatshirts.  Has Hogwarts gone totally casual now?  




Under the rule that "sometimes the simplest answer is the right one", 
it is my guess (just my guess! Don' be mad!) that the shots in which 
the kids are dressed in muggle clothing might just be dress-rehearsal 
shots - you know, fixing the lighting, getting the camera angles 
right, lining up the shot - maybe they weren't in costume because 
they didn't need to be.......?

Beth in Sacramento 




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 18:43:15 2003
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Lupin/Thewlis
In-Reply-To: <bg8uji+op6t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030730184315.99121.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>

[moving from OTChatter to Movie]

sjlupin:
> Ok, I saw the Newsweek article
> and the photo from the Shrieking 
> Shack. No offense intended to
> David Thewlis, I'm sure he is a
> lovely man, but he looked *NOTHING*
> like my image of Lupin. Since I am 
> hopelessly in love with this
> character, it is a bit distressing to 
> me. :) How am I to fight movie
> infiltration? Is there help for me? A 
> 12-step program perhaps?
> 
> Anyone else have opinions on Thewlis
> as Lupin?

Yeah, shame they didn't look at that 
picture through a really good loupe 
before releasing it for publication...or 
maybe the others that caught Thewlis in 
a better facial expression captured 
someone else poorly.  <sigh>  Well, I 
don't know if this will help, but at 
least it's a good picture of Thewlis the 
person (as opposed to the character Lupin) 
- go to

http://www.wireimage.com/

then type in his name in "Search" box.  
IIRC, there are links to other pictures 
in the archives of the movie list.

Petra
a
n  :)

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From newdevilry9 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 20:46:23 2003
From: newdevilry9 at yahoo.com (newdevilry9)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:46:23 -0000
Subject: Lupin/Thewlis
In-Reply-To: <20030730184315.99121.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bg9aqv+adgp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Petra Pan <ms_petra_pan at y...> 
wrote:
> [moving from OTChatter to Movie]
> 
> sjlupin:
> > Ok, I saw the Newsweek article
> > and the photo from the Shrieking 
> > Shack. No offense intended to
> > David Thewlis, I'm sure he is a
> > lovely man, but he looked *NOTHING*
> > like my image of Lupin. Since I am 
> > hopelessly in love with this
> > character, it is a bit distressing to 
> > me. :) How am I to fight movie
> > infiltration? Is there help for me? A 
> > 12-step program perhaps?
> > 
> > Anyone else have opinions on Thewlis
> > as Lupin?
> 
> Yeah, shame they didn't look at that 
> picture through a really good loupe 
> before releasing it for publication...or 
> maybe the others that caught Thewlis in 
> a better facial expression captured 
> someone else poorly.  <sigh>  Well, I 
> don't know if this will help, but at 
> least it's a good picture of Thewlis the 
> person (as opposed to the character Lupin) 
> - go to
> 
> http://www.wireimage.com/
> 
> then type in his name in "Search" box.  
> IIRC, there are links to other pictures 
> in the archives of the movie list.
> 
> Petra
> a
> n  :)
I am loving everything else I see for this movie.  I am so excited 
for it, it looks like it is going to be a really good, strong film. 

"Else" is the key word here, I am rather distressed over this Lupin 
situation.  It is one thing for him not to look like what I pictured 
Lupin to look like, but I have yet to talk to someone who hasn't said 
the same thing, essentially: "That's Lupin?  It doesn't look like 
Lupin!"  

I love, love, love Lupin, in fact, I think my husband might be 
jealous.  I don't know, I just keep telling myself that maybe this is 
just not a great shot of him and he will look better in the movie.  

I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen him 
in anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, all the other 
adults that have been cast are great, so that is certainly 
reassuring.  If he plays Lupin like the Lupin that we all know and 
love, than I can accept that he doesn't look how we all imagined.  I 
mean it is the character that we love that gave us the image in our 
minds of what he should look like, right?.  If he's a wonderful Lupin 
then I think we will be able to get past how he looks.  

But come on people, it is the night of the full moon in the Shreiking 
Shack, shouldn't he be a little shaggier?  All right, I'm done, I 
promise.

NewDev




From draco382 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 20:51:12 2003
From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:51:12 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg92h7+kd8b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg9b40+1095l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Beth in Sacramento" 
<Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
> 
> Under the rule that "sometimes the simplest answer is the right 
one", 
> it is my guess (just my guess! Don' be mad!) that the shots in 
which 
> the kids are dressed in muggle clothing might just be dress-
rehearsal 
> shots - you know, fixing the lighting, getting the camera angles 
> right, lining up the shot - maybe they weren't in costume because 
> they didn't need to be.......?
> 
> Beth in Sacramento


Strangely, i was so taken by the pics in the Sun article, i didn't 
bother to read the whole thing.  my apologies if this has been 
already noted and posted in discussion:

"Our amazing stills from the movie show Harry and pals Hermione and 
Ron adopting a different look as new director Alfonso Cuaron boots 
out the blazers for a more casual style.

Daniel Radcliffe, 14, who plays Harry, wears a trendy hooded top 
while Ron, alias 14-year-old actor Rupert Grint, swaps his uniform 
for a stripy jumper."

It sounds like the sweaters, neckties and cloaks are gone for good?  
They are using words like "swaps" and "boots" -- implying that the 
boarding schoolish outfits aren't making a come back anywhere in the 
film?  If i remember correctly, i beleive the person responsible for 
costumes in SS/PS was nominated for an academy award.  or maybe it 
was an MTV movie award. i don't remember.  Good job to Cuaron for 
tossing out an old idea for a new one, even if it is maybe, a 
slightly risky one!!  Personally, the new, modern look is really 
growing on me....

~draco382






From jeanico at securenet.net  Wed Jul 30 21:10:11 2003
From: jeanico at securenet.net (jeanico2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:10:11 -0000
Subject: Lupin/Sirius
Message-ID: <bg9c7j+qfkl@eGroups.com>

Like most of you, I have been looking at those fabulous Newsweek POA 
pictures...My thoughts:
Daniel looks fabulous (isn't it illegal to look that good at that 
age???)
Hermione shouldn't be in pink (IMHO) because that's just so "Barbie"!
Gary Oldman as Sirius is perfect...just the way I imagined him!
David Thewlis as Lupin is a BIG let down...I love Lupin so much and 
he just doesn't look the part (IMHO). I had my heart set on more of 
a Gabriel Byrne type of guy.
Of course, maybe Thewlis' acting is good...I am not at all familiar 
with any of his work.
Looks like the movie is going to be out of this world...and June 
2004 seems too long to have to wait for it!
Patience is not one of my virtues. Never was.
Nicole




From strikethepose_vouge at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 30 16:03:19 2003
From: strikethepose_vouge at yahoo.co.uk (laura)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:03:19 -0000
Subject: Casting of Dumbledore
Message-ID: <bg8q87+njqj@eGroups.com>

I never really thought Harris was right as DDore- I just didnt think 
he had the "twinkle", but judging by the newsweek photo I just gotta 
say yay-peoplle it looks like we havw a bona fide twinkle!

yay yay yay  

hugs

laura
xxx




From jeanico at securenet.net  Wed Jul 30 21:19:00 2003
From: jeanico at securenet.net (jeanico2000)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:19:00 -0000
Subject: School uniforms
Message-ID: <bg9co4+de7l@eGroups.com>

I forgot to mention something in my previous post...For all those 
who think that Cuaron decided to do away with the Hogwarts school 
uniform, this information is not correct. I have seen onset pictures 
and the kids still wear robes and uniforms to class (this is a 
British boarding school, remember!). 
The photos posted on the web are obviously casual outing pictures 
(like Hogsmead visits) as some of you have already guessed.
Also, nice to see Draco's hair unslicked for a change!
Nicole
 




From sandyluppino at comcast.net  Wed Jul 30 21:33:04 2003
From: sandyluppino at comcast.net (sjlupin)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:33:04 -0000
Subject: Lupin/Thewlis
In-Reply-To: <bg9aqv+adgp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg9dig+t8hd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "newdevilry9" <newdevilry9 at y...> 
wrote:
said 
> 
> I love, love, love Lupin, in fact, I think my husband might be 
> jealous.

Me:
Oh my GOD - mine too! He just sort of rolls his eyes at me when I 
swon over my boy Remus. :)


 I don't know, I just keep telling myself that maybe this is 
> just not a great shot of him and he will look better in the movie.  
> 
> I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen him 
> in anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, all the 
other 
> adults that have been cast are great, so that is certainly 
> reassuring.  If he plays Lupin like the Lupin that we all know and 
> love, than I can accept that he doesn't look how we all imagined.  
I 
> mean it is the character that we love that gave us the image in our 
> minds of what he should look like, right?.  If he's a wonderful 
Lupin 
> then I think we will be able to get past how he looks.  


Me:  I agree. If he pulls off the sweet, kind, gentle nature of 
Lupin, it won't matter - I will love him. I've never been to hung up 
on looks, much more attracted to personality traits, so if he nails 
it, I'm sure I will be AOK! :)

As a side note, Arthur Weasley wasn't exactly what I had pictured, 
but I love him in the movies. He played the part great,  IMHO.

sjlupin





From rvotaw at i-55.com  Wed Jul 30 22:09:22 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:09:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin/Sirius
References: <bg9c7j+qfkl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002501c356e7$3bb1ad80$c4a2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Nicole wrote:

> Daniel looks fabulous (isn't it illegal to look that good at that
> age???)

Isn't he still in the "adorabley cute stage?"  (I know, it's probably
spelled wrong, not a word I often spell)

> Gary Oldman as Sirius is perfect...just the way I imagined him!

I must say I agree.  I was disappointed at the first casting of Gary Oldman,
but after seeing his diversity I thought I'd give him a chance.  He looks
fantastic.

> David Thewlis as Lupin is a BIG let down...I love Lupin so much and
> he just doesn't look the part (IMHO). I had my heart set on more of
> a Gabriel Byrne type of guy.

I agree.  I'm trying to give him a chance, but his clothes don't even look
right.  What on earth is he wearing?    I had him pictured as Viggo
Mortensen (out of Aragorn get up).  Which, ironically, I pictured Sirius as
Viggo Mortensen IN Aragorn style. :)  To think the money they could've saved
only getting one person.  (Kidding!)

Now, what about Rupert?  I love the too small clothes, great touch.  But why
is it he's always shafted?  We get one decent picture of him (I don't count
the one in the table of contents, too small to count), and one of the back
of his head.  Or a double's head.  Somebody's head.  I gave this rant once
already to my mom, who claims it's only because Daniel's the star, Emma's
the girl, and Rupert's just a costar.  Well, so what.  Anyway, I didn't
think I would like the hair, but I do.

I'm also glad to see they did away with greasy haired Draco.  I'm sure Tom
Felton's glad too.  And everybody who's hyperventilating over the lack of
robes, calm down. ;)  There are robes.  They aren't in class in any of these
pictures, so they don't HAVE to have robes on.  There really are robes,
unless Daniel, Emma, and Rupert have taken to wearing robes in their off
time. :)

Richelle






From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Wed Jul 30 22:22:33 2003
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:22:33 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More PoA pics
Message-ID: <v01540b01bb4df2cab938@[217.154.252.240]>

Beth said:-

>Under the rule that "sometimes the simplest answer is the right one",
>it is my guess (just my guess! Don' be mad!) that the shots in which
>the kids are dressed in muggle clothing might just be dress-rehearsal
>shots - you know, fixing the lighting, getting the camera angles
>right, lining up the shot - maybe they weren't in costume because
>they didn't need to be.......?

You could well be right. It seems a bit odd that, even if they are out of
uniform more in PoA, they should be wearing exactly the same clothes in
every scene. Emma-In-Pink appears in the (presumed) Dementors
confrontation, and in the scene where she threatens Malfoy with her wand
(where was that in the book, btw?). I see that Malfoy's hair is 'au
naturel' in that picture, another possible indication that these are dress
rehearsals; if it's a permanent change, it would be a pity; the
slicked-back hair is part of the image of the character.
Dan-In-Stripy-Jacket is shown when he leaves Privet Drive, in the Dementors
scene, in the Leaky Cauldron (? from the Newsweek article) and on the
train. If these are indeed costumes, then  Cuaron runs the risk of them
becoming too noticeable.

I would be sorry to see less of the uniforms in PoA. I thought that they
were well done, and in fact liked them better than the books' descriptions
of the robes. Wow. I think that that is unique...the only thing that I
thought that the films did better than the books.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Wed Jul 30 22:37:11 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:37:11 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin/Sirius
In-Reply-To: <002501c356e7$3bb1ad80$c4a2cdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>
References: <bg9c7j+qfkl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030730173628.00bb2118@mail.kriselda.net>

Richelle Votaw recently mentioned:

>I agree.  I'm trying to give him a chance, but his clothes don't even look
>right.  What on earth is he wearing?    I had him pictured as Viggo
>Mortensen (out of Aragorn get up).  Which, ironically, I pictured Sirius as
>Viggo Mortensen IN Aragorn style. :)  To think the money they could've saved
>only getting one person.  (Kidding!)

Glad to know I'm not the only one who would have put him in as Sirius!  :)




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From emelinemoore at mianla.net  Wed Jul 30 23:19:13 2003
From: emelinemoore at mianla.net (Emeline Moore)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:19:13 -0000
Subject: Questions about POA pictures
In-Reply-To: <155.2201de03.2c589947@aol.com>
Message-ID: <bg9jph+nnv6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote:

> The one with Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman, Rupert Grint and two
> unidentified young girls posing outside the studio was posted by ?
> TLC last week, but Warner Brothers asked them to take it down
> since the actors weren't in full costume (Alan was in regular
> clothes and Gary was in partial costume and makeup, although
> Rupert looked to be in full makeup and costume). 

> The photo is still up in other places though, such as
> www.digicasey.com/

Thanks Cindy! I would have never found the picture otherwise. I 
didn't even know what to look for! I wasn't sure if I was looking 
for a Alan Rickman picture with just him and then a Ron and Sirius 
picture or what.

Emeline




From rvotaw at i-55.com  Thu Jul 31 00:00:49 2003
From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:00:49 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More PoA pics
References: <v01540b01bb4df2cab938@[217.154.252.240]>
Message-ID: <003b01c356f6$cd6d1ed0$ac9ecdd1@l3820.tjdo.com>

Nicholas wrote:

> Dan-In-Stripy-Jacket is shown when he leaves Privet Drive, in the Dementors
> scene, in the Leaky Cauldron (? from the Newsweek article) and on the
> train. If these are indeed costumes, then  Cuaron runs the risk of them
> becoming too noticeable.

Just a note about the jacket, there is a different shirt under the jacket each time.  In the first Knight Bus scenes Harry has a blue/grey plaid shirt on, later a dark maroon shirt (or brown, can't really tell) and in other pictures a light blue shirt (not plaid).  So while the jacket's the same, the shirts aren't.  So he's really not wearing the same clothes all the time. :)

Richelle


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From anneu53714 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 00:20:06 2003
From: anneu53714 at yahoo.com (Anne)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:20:06 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg9b40+1095l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bg9nbm+qeb5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "draco382" <draco382 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Beth in Sacramento" 
> <Tasukibeth1 at c...> wrote:
> > 
> > Under the rule that "sometimes the simplest answer is the right 
> one", 
> > it is my guess (just my guess! Don' be mad!) that the shots in 
> which 
> > the kids are dressed in muggle clothing might just be dress-
> rehearsal 
> > shots -

And if these photos *were* dress rehearsal shots, the kids would have 
been in the clothes they were actually going to WEAR in the shot. 
That's why it's called DRESS rehearsal :-) in theatrical productions, 
anyway -- it's usually the very last rehearsal before opening night. 
Also, movies are not rehearsed in the same way that plays are 
rehearsed. Movies are rarely shot sequentially (not even HP, though 
these have been shot less-unsequentially than most). While I suppose 
there might be a few run-throughs before filming begins, to give 
everyone a sense of how the whole film will go, it's my understanding 
that the actors go home in the evening, learn their lines, get up the 
next day (often at some ridiculous hour like 4:00 a.m.), go to makeup 
and wardrobe, wait for their scenes to be shot (or, if they're still 
in school, attend lessons on the set), rehearse the scene in costume, 
wait some more while the sound and lighting technicians put 
everything in place, and then shoot as many takes as the director 
thinks are needed. 

At least that's how I've heard and read that it goes.

At any rate, I am looking forward to seeing Cuaron's interpretation 
of POA. I think it speaks volumes that JKR is willing to let Cuaron 
do things considerably differently than Columbus did. (Or maybe it 
says something about Columbus, since he's the producer this time.) 
Thought actually I think it speaks most about David Heyman, since 
he's the executive producer and probably has the most to lose in 
terms of professional stature if Cuaron blows this.

Anne U
(who must rent A Little Princess soon!)





From insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jul 31 01:28:27 2003
From: insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk (Scott)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:28:27 -0000
Subject: PoA music...not that we have a choice.
Message-ID: <bg9rbr+ru77@eGroups.com>

Am I the only one who simply can't hear a John Williams's score 
alongside the pictures of PoA that were all excitedly viewing. Don't 
get me wrong, I enjoy Williams's music-- I do, but to quote our 
beloved potions master (and to direct that quote toward John 
Williams) "you have no subtlety...." Argh!

I just don't hear his music when I think about the dark and 
foreboding sort of things that fill PoA. Speaking of "A Little 
Princess" and the magical realism genre, which I did earlier, I 
really liked the use of choral music in that film.  Of course I like 
Choral music in general, but it can be so rich and alternately so 
bleak...exactly what we need for this story. I can just here a 
cacophony of anguished moaning and chanting for Azkaban (and 
possibly as a theme for Sirius). 

Any thoughts?

Will we get the same old same old, or something a bit different? Is 
that waaay too much for which to hope?

Scott 




From susannahlm at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 02:19:22 2003
From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:19:22 -0000
Subject: POA -- a John Williams score?
Message-ID: <bg9uba+eofs@eGroups.com>

Scott wrote:

> Am I the only one who simply can't hear a John Williams's score 
> alongside the pictures of PoA that were all excitedly viewing. Don't 
> get me wrong, I enjoy Williams's music-- I do, but to quote our 
> beloved potions master (and to direct that quote toward John 
> Williams) "you have no subtlety...." Argh!

Have you seen A.I., though? All through that movie, I was thinking things like: 
"Gorgeous score. I wonder who wrote it?" I actually considered the possibility that it 
was Williams, only to dismiss it, figuring that it simply didn't *sound* like his stuff. 
But, er, of course, it *was* Williams.

It's a great score, and quite, quite dark. A.I. is darker in parts than most of POA is  -- 
or, no, not darker, eaactly, but far more. . . *sordid.* And that one theme. . . I don't 
know if it's the main theme, but it's the one that plays on the DVD main menu, and I 
can't describe it, except to say that it's all. . . dark and ominous and sort of tragic, if I 
don't sound too silly saying it. The A.I. music isn't even scored like most of John 
Williams's music is -- I don't know if there's a single brass instrument throughout the 
whole thing. As I recall it, it's mostly strings. 

If you haven't seen A.I. though, and you're really doubtful about Williams's ability to 
pull off a different sort of score, check out the film. 




Derannimer




From bethz1 at rcn.com  Thu Jul 31 02:53:25 2003
From: bethz1 at rcn.com (Ms. Found in a Bottle)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:53:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin/Sirius
References: <bg9c7j+qfkl@eGroups.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030730173628.00bb2118@mail.kriselda.net>
Message-ID: <014f01c3570e$e9867e50$6401a8c0@BethsComp>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kriselda Jarnsaxa" <thorswitch at thunderhaven.net>

> Richelle Votaw recently mentioned:
>
> >I agree.  I'm trying to give him a chance, but his clothes don't even
look
> >right.  What on earth is he wearing?    I had him pictured as Viggo
> >Mortensen (out of Aragorn get up).  Which, ironically, I pictured Sirius
as
> >Viggo Mortensen IN Aragorn style. :)  To think the money they could've
saved
> >only getting one person.  (Kidding!)
>
> Glad to know I'm not the only one who would have put him in as Sirius!  :)
>
The first time I ever saw the first LOTR movie, I thought they have to cast
that guy playing
Aragorn as Sirius.  He just seems to be perfect for that part, but then as I
started to read
up on Viggo Mortensen and see the kind of person he seems to be, he would
have definitely
been perfect.

Beth





From scully931 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 03:50:29 2003
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:50:29 -0000
Subject: Casting of Dumbledore
In-Reply-To: <bg8q87+njqj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bga3m5+cjsr@eGroups.com>

Oh, I agree completely! I don't have a definate opinion on new 
Dumbledore of course. But, (not to speak ill of the dead) I thought 
Richard Harris was a very um... boring Dumbledore. I remember 
someone saying, "Someone needs to surgically implant a twinkle in 
that man's eyes!" 

Deb

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "laura" 
<strikethepose_vouge at y...> wrote:
> I never really thought Harris was right as DDore- I just didnt 
think 
> he had the "twinkle", but judging by the newsweek photo I just 
gotta 
> say yay-peoplle it looks like we havw a bona fide twinkle!
> 
> yay yay yay  
> 
> hugs
> 
> laura
> xxx




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 03:54:16 2003
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:54:16 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg9nbm+qeb5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bga3t8+jhqk@eGroups.com>

Yes, I seriously doubt these are rehearsal photos. Any camera or 
lighting set up that needs to be done is generally done with stand 
ins. By the time the cast gets there, they're about ready to shoot. 
Just a couple walk throughs and they go. I'm trying to wait to judge 
the costumes. However, a lot of the uniqueness of the film , for me 
at least, are the robes. :-( Hope we still see a lot of them. 

Deb


> 
> And if these photos *were* dress rehearsal shots, the kids would 
have 
> been in the clothes they were actually going to WEAR in the shot. 
> That's why it's called DRESS rehearsal :-) in theatrical 
productions, 
> anyway -- it's usually the very last rehearsal before opening 
night. 
> Also, movies are not rehearsed in the same way that plays are 
> rehearsed. Movies are rarely shot sequentially (not even HP, 
though 
> these have been shot less-unsequentially than most). While I 
suppose 
> there might be a few run-throughs before filming begins, to give 
> everyone a sense of how the whole film will go, it's my 
understanding 
> that the actors go home in the evening, learn their lines, get up 
the 
> next day (often at some ridiculous hour like 4:00 a.m.), go to 
makeup 
> and wardrobe, wait for their scenes to be shot (or, if they're 
still 
> in school, attend lessons on the set), rehearse the scene in 
costume, 
> wait some more while the sound and lighting technicians put 
> everything in place, and then shoot as many takes as the director 
> thinks are needed. 
> 
> At least that's how I've heard and read that it goes.
> 
> At any rate, I am looking forward to seeing Cuaron's 
interpretation 
> of POA. I think it speaks volumes that JKR is willing to let 
Cuaron 
> do things considerably differently than Columbus did. (Or maybe it 
> says something about Columbus, since he's the producer this time.) 
> Thought actually I think it speaks most about David Heyman, since 
> he's the executive producer and probably has the most to lose in 
> terms of professional stature if Cuaron blows this.
> 
> Anne U
> (who must rent A Little Princess soon!)




From tahewitt at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 04:18:41 2003
From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Y Tu Mama Tambien
In-Reply-To: <1059620008.1527.632.m10@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030731041841.56898.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com>

Scott asks:
Also is "Y Tu Mama Tambien" any good? I know it's
supposedly quite erotic, but I haven't heard anyone
say whether it's a good film. (I'd like to see it, but
one can't find any foreign titles in this town). 

ME:
I watched "Y Tu Mama Tambien" for the first time a
couple of nights ago and thought it was really good. A
very interesting film, well made and well acted. I was
trying to pay special atttention to the direction, and
noticed a distinct naturalistic feel to it. Charecters
had long conversations without camera movements or
edits, occasionally there would be just a bit of
camera movement or shake during scenes with lots of
action, and much of the film had an almost
improvosational feel to it. 
Y Tu Mama Tambien is sure of itself as a film, and I
hope this carries over to PoA.

By the way, if you want to watch Y Tu Mama Tambien,
look for the unrated version. I've heard what is cut
out of the R rated version, and it's kind of
important.
Tyler

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From tahewitt at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 04:36:03 2003
From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Casting of Dumbledore
In-Reply-To: <1059620008.1527.632.m10@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030731043603.23812.qmail@web14206.mail.yahoo.com>


laura wrote:

I never really thought Harris was right as DDore- I
just didnt think he had the "twinkle", but judging by
the newsweek photo I just gotta say yay-peoplle it
looks like we havw a bona fide twinkle!

ME:

Gotta agree with you, I think I'm going to like the
new DD. I love the idea of playing him as an aging
hippy too. Sounds perfect, my exact take on
Dumbledore!

Looking at the photo of Michael Gambon as DD, I kept
thinking he looked familiar. I looked him up on the
IMDB, and found that he played 'the theif' in "The
Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover". Now when I
look at the photo of Gambon as DD, i see the twinkle,
but I also see the disgusting rat bastard he played in
that earlier film. Hope I can forget that when PoA
comes out. I don't want to see Dumbledore as the
person who urinates on and force feeds dog feces to
someone in the opening scene of 'The Cook..." 

Tyler

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From jferer at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 06:10:18 2003
From: jferer at yahoo.com (Jim Ferer)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:10:18 -0000
Subject: PoA music...not that we have a choice.
In-Reply-To: <bg9rbr+ru77@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bgabsa+p9nk@eGroups.com>

Scott:"Am I the only one who simply can't hear a John Williams's score 
alongside the pictures of PoA that were all excitedly viewing. Don't 
get me wrong, I enjoy Williams's music-- I do, but to quote our 
 beloved potions master (and to direct that quote toward John 
Williams) "you have no subtlety...." Argh!...

...Speaking of "A Little Princess" and the magical realism genre,
which I did earlier, I really liked the use of choral music in that film."

Me, either.  Williams scores are always grandiose and borrow heavily
from that sort of work. (Holst's "The Planets," for instance). 

I had two ideas for scores when making the movies started, one, I
thought, a natural, and another different: first, Patrick Doyle, who
happens to have scored _A Little Princess_ and is best known for
scoring Kenneth Branagh's movies. (check out the choral work in Henry
V) One of his trademarks there is that he always appears  onscreen as
a singer.

The second choice would be Jo Hisaishi, who composes for the Hayao
Miyazaki films.  Check out his work in Princess Mononoke, Spirited
Away, or Kiki's Delivery Service.  Excellent.

Jim Ferer




From sara1412au at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 06:22:37 2003
From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:22:37 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bg7mhi+apa4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bgacjd+pk4t@eGroups.com>

Dan wrote:

> Did anyone think the first two movies were actually good? I mean, I 
>haven't met anyone older than 8 who thought they were good movies, 
>in themselves.

Me:
I was utterly shocked to find that my too-hip brother (in his mid-
twenties and oh-so-cynical and "over it")who nevertheless has seen an 
unmentionable number of 'blockbuster' summer movies, had  bought both 
films on DVD recently... AND finally subcumbed to reading the first 
book. My point: the films, for better or worse, have the power to 
draw people who're into mainstream films but not "children's books" 
into the books themselves, which can't be a bad thing now, can it?

Dan:
[SNIP]
> I know a number of HP fans, none quite as much as myself, 
> however, and they felt the movies were, "uh, okay". I think most of 
> us only watched them for fun - we weren't expecting another more 
>than an after school special, and we got nothing more than an after 
>school special. 

Me:
I'm guilty of the first - I didn't see either of the films in the 
cinema mainly because I construed them as being "kiddie films", for 
better or worse. The trailer for the first film and the reviews that 
followed didn't do much to alleviate my bias and so, I ended up 
watching PS/SS on DVD instead. I found the first film to be 
relatively well-cast (I thought that Rupert Grint was very natural in 
the first film) but the effects were so-so. When the second film was 
released, I was therefore again, expecting it to be fairly pedestrian 
and again, caught it on DVD, preferring the books to Chris Columbus' 
vision. This time around however, I felt that it was somewhat more 
mature (less "after-schooly", if you will) and loved the way that 
some of the characters were portrayed (Jason Isaacs, IMO was very 
good). I cringed at the obvious sentimentality awkwardly stuck on at 
the end (the clapping when Hagrid returns, being one example), but 
overall, enjoyed the film.

Dan wrote:
[SNIP]
>So what is a real director, like Cauron, to do?

[SNIP]
> Maybe it's that I suspect the Rocky Horror Picture Show fandom 
>school of HP movie appreciation needs a little bit of psychological 
>content, to give it an edge. Columbus' vision of the books is, upon 
>second  viewing, precisely Byatt's interpretation of the series.Yes, 
>Columbus was THAT BAD. No wonder he left the logic puzzle out. He 
>couldn't make it work, he couldn't get his lens around it. And the 
>scene with Hedwig and HP in the dorm, first night at Hoggy Hoggy. 
>Did someone hold a gun to his head to shoot that?
> 
> The only semi-artistic parts of the second movie were the diary 
> interiors, IMNSHO.

Me:

Well, I read somewhere that JKR thought that the diary flashback 
scene was very well done and exactly as she had envisaged it. I don't 
wish to defend Chris Columbus (there must be a special sub-circle in 
Dante's Hell for makers of films like "Home Alone"), nevertheless, I 
feel that his "artistic vision" was hindered by the demands that the 
films remain true to the books - too much so, in the end it would 
appear. I'm amused by the reaction that having the kids wear 'muggle 
clothes' has aroused in the fandom and I can hardly imagine what the 
reaction would've been had the kids not be wearing 'wizard robes' in 
parts of the first couple of films. Cuaron (whom I respect as a human 
being and a film-maker), is lucky in some respects, as he is stepping 
into a successful franchise (ie: one that wasn't completely blasted 
away by the critics and fans) and so, is able to have the leeway that 
Columbus couldn't. I personally love what I've seen in the last 
couple of days (with one notably exception *cough*Lupin*cough*), and 
look forward to seeing this next film in the cinemas for a change. 

Though this has been mentioned many times before on the main board, I 
feel that, just as the writing and characters in the books develop as 
the series progresses (I didn't bother reading CoS after the first 
time I read PS as I felt that the writing was fine, but a bit too 
juvenile for my tastes), so do the films. 

Dan wrote:
[SNIP]
> Look at the still with Minerva. There's more grace and subtlty in 
> that picture than in the entire 2 Columbus travesties. 

Me: 
You can't really judge a whole perfomance on a single still photo now 
Dan! Having said that, I love everything I've seen so far (INCLUDING 
the revised movie!Draco hair-style) but have to concede that the 
official Olman/Sirius photo (in the shrieking shack) is disturbingly 
reminiscent of my favorite uncle's hair-do from the 70's (he had 
*exactly the same beard, moustache and part in his hair).

Slightly OT but - I personally don't give two figs as to what AS 
Byatt thinks of Harry Potter.I have never needed the validation of 
anyone else, especially so-called 'intellectuals', to feel secure in 
my literary or cinematic viewing choices in the past, present and (I 
sincerely hope) future.

*******
Sara-ELL (who now knows how those "Aaargh - that's not *my* version 
of Sirius" posters feels after seeing that albeit, very blurry, 
picture of Lupin)




From twelvecabins at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 06:51:23 2003
From: twelvecabins at yahoo.com (Sara)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:51:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 653
In-Reply-To: <1059620008.1527.632.m10@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030731065123.58121.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com>

Message: 17
   Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:09:22 -0500
   From: "Richelle Votaw" <rvotaw at i-55.com>
Subject: Re: Lupin/Sirius

Nicole wrote:

> Daniel looks fabulous (isn't it illegal to look that
good at that
> age???)

Isn't he still in the "adorabley cute stage?"  (I
know, it's probably
spelled wrong, not a word I often spell)

> Gary Oldman as Sirius is perfect...just the way I
imagined him!

I must say I agree.  I was disappointed at the first
casting of Gary 
Oldman,
but after seeing his diversity I thought I'd give him
a chance.  He 
looks
fantastic.

> David Thewlis as Lupin is a BIG let down...I love
Lupin so much and
> he just doesn't look the part (IMHO). I had my heart
set on more of
> a Gabriel Byrne type of guy.

I agree.  I'm trying to give him a chance, but his
clothes don't even 
look
right.  What on earth is he wearing?    I had him
pictured as Viggo
Mortensen (out of Aragorn get up).  Which, ironically,
I pictured 
Sirius as
Viggo Mortensen IN Aragorn style. :)  To think the
money they could've 
saved
only getting one person.  (Kidding!)

Count me as yet another person whose dream Sirius is
Viggo Mortensen. I know that no human being would be
able to maintain stunning looks after 12 years in a
prison where the guards suck the happiness out of you,
but I did imagine a Sirius much like Viggo's Aragorn
in appearance: rough, careworn, unshaven, with long,
rather filthy hair - but a handsome face still visible
beneath the grime and pain and turmoil. Viggo's a
great actor, he could have pulled off the whole
package - but I must say that I was VERY pleasantly
surprised by the picture of Oldman. I know he's an
excellent actor, but I was worried about whether or
not he could look the part. I found nothing in the
picture to complain about, and the tattoos/brands are
a very nice touch.

But Lupin... please, someone - anyone - explain to me
why he's dressed like my high school algebra teacher!
I thought Thewlis was a promising choice for the role,
especially having seen "Naked" where he's very scruffy
looking - and wasn't it implied that Lupin too was a
bit rough around the edges, a bit unkempt? And maybe
I'm the only one, but I just can't imagine that Lupin
would ever dress like that, leisure day off of work or
not. Rowling always described his tattered robes, and
those notwithstanding, I would still imagine Lupin to
dress in a bit of an eccentric manner, perhaps? A
little bit of this, a little bit of that. In that
picture, it looks as if he's just put down his pipe -
God forbid he's also wearing loafers. Are we to
believe that the other professors, too, leave their
robes behind when they travel away from the castle?
Does Snape, perhaps, don a pair of khakis and a
sweater he ordered from J. Crew?

The kids wearing Muggle clothes I can tolerate
(although the fabulous wizard wear and the Hogwarts
uniforms are one of the things that, to me, separated
the magical world from the mundane, everyday one) -
but on Lupin, it seems a very poor, uncharacteristic
choice.

Sara Edhelwen

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From spicecow at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 31 07:03:10 2003
From: spicecow at hotmail.com (Nik A)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:03:10 +1000
Subject: Casting of Thewlis as Lupin
Message-ID: <BAY1-F78NEOafeJOu7K0001319a@hotmail.com>

newdevilry9 wrote:

>I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen him in 
>anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, all the other adults 
>that have been cast are great, so that is certainly reassuring.  If he 
>plays Lupin like the Lupin that we all know and love, than I can accept 
>that he doesn't look how we all imagined.  I mean it is the character that 
>we love that gave us the image in our minds of what he should look like, 
>right?.  If he's a wonderful Lupin then I think we will be able to get past 
>how he looks.


I think you're right, I absolutely adore Lupin, he's one of my favourite 
characters and I was really interested to see who they would cast. David 
Thewlis is actually quite a brilliant actor in my opinion, and I think he'll 
do a great job. I'm really not fussed on looks, I think it's more important 
for someone to capture the heart and soul of the character and add the kind 
of depth that's needed when translating a character from a book to the 
screen. It's kind of unfair for everyone to be paying him out before they've 
even seen the film.

If anyone's interested I recommend Gangster Number One as a great picture 
with Thewlis in it, also Total Eclipse with Leo DiCaprio which is more 
contoversial and a bit strange at times, but I think he does a great job in 
it. I think he was also in Dragonheart with Jason Isaacs.

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From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net  Thu Jul 31 07:37:22 2003
From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:37:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bgacjd+pk4t@eGroups.com>
References: <bg7mhi+apa4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030731023634.00b8aa08@mail.kriselda.net>

Sara_ELL recently mentioned:

>Dan wrote:
>
> > Did anyone think the first two movies were actually good? I mean, I
> >haven't met anyone older than 8 who thought they were good movies,
> >in themselves.
>
>Me:
>I was utterly shocked to find that my too-hip brother (in his mid-
>twenties and oh-so-cynical and "over it")who nevertheless has seen an
>unmentionable number of 'blockbuster' summer movies, had  bought both
>films on DVD recently... AND finally subcumbed to reading the first
>book. My point: the films, for better or worse, have the power to
>draw people who're into mainstream films but not "children's books"
>into the books themselves, which can't be a bad thing now, can it?

The movies are what got me, and I'm enough of a fan now that I actually 
order my books from England so I can read them in the original British :)



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From eowynn_24 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 07:59:29 2003
From: eowynn_24 at yahoo.com (eowynn_24)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting of Thewlis as Lupin
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F78NEOafeJOu7K0001319a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030731075929.68007.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>



Nik A <spicecow at hotmail.com> wrote:
newdevilry9 wrote:

>I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen him in 
>anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, >
If anyone's interested I recommend Gangster Number One as a great picture 
with Thewlis in it, also Total Eclipse with Leo DiCaprio which is more 
contoversial and a bit strange at times, but I think he does a great job in 
it. I think he was also in Dragonheart with Jason Isaacs.


now me- eowynn_24

The first movie that came to mind for myself was Seven Years in Tibet with Brad Pitt. Probably not his strongest performance, but it was the first one I ever saw him in and he was great in that. I believe he can really bring the Lupin we all know to life in a truly amazing way.


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From eowynn_24 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 08:11:47 2003
From: eowynn_24 at yahoo.com (eowynn_24)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:11:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Orlando Bloom as Cedric??
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Message-ID: <20030731081147.7301.qmail@web20514.mail.yahoo.com>


Ximena Valdivia <xvaldivia at yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "daughterofthedust" 
<daughterofthedust at y...> wrote:
> Seeing as casting directors often use actors in their twenties to 
> play teenagers, do you think Orlando Bloom is too old (or possibly 
> too well-known, now) to play Cedric Diggory?

I heard a rumour that Cedric part was between Jack Ryder or Henry 
Cavill, I don't know where Jack Ryder is been but I saw Henry Cavill 
in Count of Monte Cristo and I think he looks very fitting for 
Cedric part. Henry is 20 right now and Jack 23 or something like 
that.

Ximena


--As much as i would love to see Orlando Bloom in that role, I don't think it would be the best choice. HE is getting a bit big, but he is also working on "Troy" with Brad Pitt and i heard that he has another movie after that. he may just be to busy.

eowynn_24 






From manda at qx.net  Thu Jul 31 14:50:03 2003
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:50:03 -0700
Subject: The Weasleys in Egypt
Message-ID: <3F28CA2B.26847.81BC51@localhost>

My copy of Newsweek finally arrived yesterday, and I (a little obsessively) went for the magnifying glass immediately. The picture taken in The Leaky Cauldron with Cuaron, 
Rupert and Dan has on the the table the Daily Prophet with the Weasleys' vacation photo! You can see Ron's arm around Ginny and pick out a few of the other family 
members. (I never thought of it before but I take it they've cast Bill and Charlie?) I can't make anything out of the headline other than "Egypt." Here's the picture:

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/07/alfonsorupertdan.jpg

I'd never imagined the photo being on the front page before. I guess it's more filmic that way.

I'm a little surprised at all the complaints about Lupin/David Thewlis. I took one look and wrote it off as a bad picture of him. They were probably looking for a sinister!Sirius 
pic and didn't pay much attention to who was in the background.

Manda
--
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From newdevilry9 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 15:10:04 2003
From: newdevilry9 at yahoo.com (newdevilry9)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:10:04 -0000
Subject: Casting of Thewlis as Lupin
In-Reply-To: <20030731075929.68007.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bgbbgc+sbfu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, eowynn_24 <eowynn_24 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nik A <spicecow at h...> wrote:
> newdevilry9 wrote:
> 
> >I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen 
him in 
> >anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, >
> If anyone's interested I recommend Gangster Number One as a great 
picture 
> with Thewlis in it, also Total Eclipse with Leo DiCaprio which is 
more 
> contoversial and a bit strange at times, but I think he does a 
great job in 
> it. I think he was also in Dragonheart with Jason Isaacs.
> 
> 
> now me- eowynn_24
> 
> The first movie that came to mind for myself was Seven Years in 
Tibet with Brad Pitt. Probably not his strongest performance, but it 
was the first one I ever saw him in and he was great in that. I 
believe he can really bring the Lupin we all know to life in a truly 
amazing way.
> 
I'm so glad to hear that as far as talent goes, Thewlis is a good 
choice.  I've scene a number of sites and forums where Oldman fans 
worked to convince Oldman-as-Sirius-Skeptics that he is a good 
choice.  I'm a supporter of the Oldman casting decision, I think he 
will be wonderful(not to say that I would have been opposed to see 
Mortensen as Sirius.)  I've kind of been hoping that people could 
sell me on Thewlis in the same way.  Although no one has posted links 
to great pictures where Thewlis looks like a perfect Lupin the same 
way that people did with Mr. Oldman, I really am pleased to hear that 
people think he will play the part well.  I will try to check out 
some of his films over he next year.  Thanks!
NewDev




From tmarends at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 16:06:36 2003
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:06:36 -0000
Subject: PoA music...not that we have a choice.
In-Reply-To: <bg9rbr+ru77@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bgbeqc+5h75@eGroups.com>

I suggest you go back and re-examine the Star Wars and Indiana Jones 
scores.  And who can forget the Jaws theme.  Just hearing that music 
makes you afraid to go into the water.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <insanus_scottus at y...> 
wrote:
> Am I the only one who simply can't hear a John Williams's score 
> alongside the pictures of PoA that were all excitedly viewing. 
Don't 
> get me wrong, I enjoy Williams's music-- I do, but to quote our 
> beloved potions master (and to direct that quote toward John 
> Williams) "you have no subtlety...." Argh!
> 
> I just don't hear his music when I think about the dark and 
> foreboding sort of things that fill PoA. Speaking of "A Little 
> Princess" and the magical realism genre, which I did earlier, I 
> really liked the use of choral music in that film.  Of course I 
like 
> Choral music in general, but it can be so rich and alternately so 
> bleak...exactly what we need for this story. I can just here a 
> cacophony of anguished moaning and chanting for Azkaban (and 
> possibly as a theme for Sirius). 
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Will we get the same old same old, or something a bit different? Is 
> that waaay too much for which to hope?
> 
> Scott




From grace701 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 18:49:42 2003
From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:49:42 -0000
Subject: Hernione's Slap?
Message-ID: <bgboc6+ma8i@eGroups.com>

I saw that photo of Hermione pointing her wand at Draco.  Where's 
the slap?!  I want me some Draco slap.  It made me day to have him 
finally get his just dues.  Hermione poniting her wand at him and 
his looking scared simply doesn't cut it for me. Maybe I'll like it 
once I hear what she is saying, but that slap was just the BEST to 
read!  :(

Slightly disappointed...
Greicy




From cate at eyestar.net  Thu Jul 31 18:54:02 2003
From: cate at eyestar.net (Cate)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:54:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Hernione's Slap?
References: <bgboc6+ma8i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <010001c35795$1e0e40a0$e3a6e3d8@JAIME>

Greicy:
I saw that photo of Hermione pointing her wand at Draco.  Where's 
the slap?!  I want me some Draco slap.  It made me day to have him 
finally get his just dues.  Hermione poniting her wand at him and 
his looking scared simply doesn't cut it for me. Maybe I'll like it 
once I hear what she is saying, but that slap was just the BEST to 
read!  :(

Reply:
How do you know it isn't there? In the book she slaps him and then pulls out her wand. For all we know, she does slap him, they just didn't photograph it and release it. I think it's best to wait until we've seen the movie before saying it's a dissapointment.

Cate

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Jul 31 19:01:25 2003
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:01:25 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] More PoA Pics
Message-ID: <ba.43f455f8.2c5ac185@aol.com>

In a message dated 7/30/2003 10:54:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> It sounds like the sweaters, neckties and cloaks are gone for good?  
> 
Nope, they have robes on in other scenes.  The Leaky Cauldron posted an early 
photo from where the kids are walking down the hill from Hagrid's (?) to 
prove that yes, they will wear Hogwart's uniforms in this film as well as casual 
clothes.  I think we see the same casual outfits in so many pictures because 
all these things happened on the same "day" in Harry's world -- if that weren't 
true, these kids definitely need more outfits!  

Lynda 
* * *
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From lmbolland at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 31 11:55:01 2003
From: lmbolland at earthlink.net (eric_and_lauri)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:55:01 -0000
Subject: Casting of Thewlis as Lupin
In-Reply-To: <20030731075929.68007.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bgb02l+f0iq@eGroups.com>

 
> Nik A <spicecow at h...> wrote:
> newdevilry9 wrote:
> 
> >I really don't know anything about Mr. Thewlis, I've never seen 
him in 
> >anything, so all I can say is that I hope he's good, >


When Thewlis was first cast, my DH sent us this link to his "fan page"
http://web.archive.org/web/20011030021753/http://www.geocities.com/SoH
o/9633/   (It's easier to go through webarchive, the page itself is 
often down.)

When we (my kids and I) saw the header pic on the fansite we were 
pleased with the casting - at least THAT shot *looks* somewhat like 
we imagined Lupin. Rather thin and shadowy and thoughtful.  I agree 
the released photo from the shreaking shack w/Lupin was awful!  Did 
he have a pencil moustache in the shack scene? Ugh.  

Lauri








From FarligAranda at HPSLASH.zzn.com  Thu Jul 31 16:41:21 2003
From: FarligAranda at HPSLASH.zzn.com (bellatrix_l)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:41:21 -0000
Subject: Clothes of '93?
Message-ID: <bgbgrh+orrr@eGroups.com>

Looking at the Newsweek article now I realise what's been bothering 
me about the choice of clothes in PoA. 
They are clothes of today, and PoA is supposed to be taking place ten 
years ago.

I should say, though, that I am absolutely thrilled about every 
change Cuar?n has made so far and I'm not accusing him BUT... I don't 
know... I thought it was definitive canon now (after the timeline on 
the dvd) that the adventures of Harry Potter take place in the 
beginning of the nineties. 

This is bothering me in the same way as the fact that Harry's hair in 
the film is brown and his eyes are blue etc. Why can't they get such 
things right? Aargh. I was 13 in '93 and there were NOT clothes like 
that then.

*hmmph*

Bella





From lunalovegood at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 31 20:47:40 2003
From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (Dan Feeney)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:47:40 -0000
Subject: More PoA pics
In-Reply-To: <bgacjd+pk4t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <bgbv9c+gp6c@eGroups.com>

dan:
> > Look at the still with Minerva. There's more grace and subtlty in 
> > that picture than in the entire 2 Columbus travesties. 
> 
>Sara-ELL: 
> You can't really judge a whole perfomance on a single still photo 
now 
> Dan! 

Well, in fact, the single photo does tell me a lot about Cauron's 
intentions, plus knowing an example of his work - as someone called 
it, naturalistic. Nevertheless, I wasn't judging Cauron's unseen 
film, I was judging Columbus' seen ones.

> Slightly OT but - I personally don't give two figs as to what AS 
> Byatt thinks of Harry Potter.I have never needed the validation of 
> anyone else, especially so-called 'intellectuals', to feel secure 
in 
> my literary or cinematic viewing choices in the past, present and 
(I 
> sincerely hope) future.

Whether or not you care about what Byatt says, having read her slam, 
one can accused Columbus of having that very approach to the films. 
It's not that she's an "intellectual", nor is there any sense that 
one "needs" validation. Byatt may be irrelevant, but her slam was 
dead on as far as the films go. That is what I think - that is my 
response to Columbus. Not to Rowling. The movies are amusing, but 
trite, verging on the insipid. The only reason I watch them is to 
have another HP diversion. Nothing in the films is actually all that 
interesting, except the Quidditch and Riddle's Dumbledore and Hagrid 
encounters. They're very VICE SQUAD, they're maudlin, they lack any 
sense of the ethical underpinnings of Rowling's work, opting instead 
for cheesy melodramatic moralism. I think Cauron will do a way better 
job. (Not that difficult.)

that's all.

dan.




From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 21:13:09 2003
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Clothes of '93?
In-Reply-To: <bgbgrh+orrr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20030731211309.44538.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>

Bella:
> Aargh. I was 13 in '93 and there
> were NOT clothes like that then.
> 
> *hmmph*

You lucky you!  So, since it sounds 
like you've got first hand information 
on what the kids going to Hogwarts 
(which most people seem to presume to 
be in Scotland, definitely Britain) in 
the early 1990's were wearing, maybe 
you can dig up your old robes and tell 
us just exactly what they are made of?

Those of us who were not lucky enough 
to have been there personally have 
been having the darnest time determining 
just exactly what qualifies as "robes" - 
we seem to have very different 
experiences of "robes" depending on 
where in the world we hail from.

<evilly a-grinning>

Petra
a
n  ;)

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From mbouhon at noos.fr  Thu Jul 31 22:00:03 2003
From: mbouhon at noos.fr (Mathilde Bouhon)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 00:00:03 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Clothes of '93?
In-Reply-To: <20030731211309.44538.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <56D2FEC2-C3A2-11D7-A841-0050E46E566F@noos.fr>

Well, Petra, the fact is, I think Bella was writing about their 
*muggle* clothes, not their robes? :)  in which case I totally agree 
with her (I was 12 in 93, and we didn't dress like that *at all*). The 
kids on the pics are dressed like 2000's teenagers, which of course 
doesn't fit the canon, but doesn't really *shock* me since we don't 
have any indication in the movies about when exactly is the action 
taking place.


Mathilde


Le jeudi, 31 juil 2003, ? 23:13 Europe/Paris, Petra Pan a ?crit :

> Bella:
> > Aargh. I was 13 in '93 and there
> > were NOT clothes like that then.
> >
> > *hmmph*
>
> You lucky you!? So, since it sounds
> like you've got first hand information
> on what the kids going to Hogwarts
> (which most people seem to presume to
> be in Scotland, definitely Britain) in
> the early 1990's were wearing, maybe
> you can dig up your old robes and tell
> us just exactly what they are made of?
>
> Those of us who were not lucky enough
> to have been there personally have
> been having the darnest time determining
> just exactly what qualifies as "robes" -
> we seem to have very different
> experiences of "robes" depending on
> where in the world we hail from.
>
> <evilly a-grinning>
>
> Petra
> a
> n? ;)


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