From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com Sun Jun 1 00:17:28 2003 From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 20:17:28 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cuaron's "changes" Message-ID: <190.1b18e0d1.2c0aa018@aol.com> ITs not to reliable I hear anybody can post there and saw evidence of it too. Ian Mckellan as Dumbledore when WB confirmed Micheal Gambon was Dumbledore Kyle Longbottom In a message dated 5/31/03 3:37:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thorswitch at thunderhaven.net writes: > Anne recently mentioned: > > >I guess the big question is to find out whether the girls who > >play Angelina, Katie and Alicia are in the movie - if not, that could > >be a pretty strong sign that there won't be any Quidditch in POA (or > >it could mean that those roles have been re-cast). > > According to IMDb, Katie, Alicia and Angelina will all be in the movie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Sun Jun 1 11:48:01 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 06:48:01 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cuaron's "changes" In-Reply-To: <190.1b18e0d1.2c0aa018@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030601062815.00b73208@mail.kriselda.net> LeeMunLim03 at aol.com recently mentioned: >ITs not to reliable I hear anybody can post there and saw evidence of it too. >Ian Mckellan as Dumbledore when WB confirmed Micheal Gambon was Dumbledore It depends on what section you're reading. Some sections, such as messages, user comments, reviews, trivia, "great lines", and other non-critical information can be added to by pretty much anyone, but the main data on the movie cast and crew isn't that open. People can submit information, but the IMDb staff has to check it out (and I believe they check it with the production company or official movie studio resources) before it's actually posted to the cast and crew pages. I mean, on the "Goblet of Fire" page, they don't have any cast or crew listed at ALL yet, except for the writing credits being listed as "Steve Kloves (screenplay)" and "JK Rowling (novel)", since nothing beyond that has been confirmed yet. As for the Ian McKellan/Michael Gambon information, I know they had posted in their news section (which is completely separate from the cast and crew listings) that there was interest in casting McKellan as Dumbledore, but nothing was added to the cast and crew listings until after Gambon was confirmed, and then HIS name was added. Also, they do note that if a movie is in "pre-production" or "production" that the information can change, since things do happen. But what they have listed up there right now is the official information they've gotten confirmed as being correct - and so as of right now, Katie, Alicia and Angelina ARE in the cast and - barring unforeseen changes - will be in the film. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kechelsen at aol.com Sun Jun 1 20:21:06 2003 From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:21:06 -0000 Subject: Cuaron's "changes" In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030601062815.00b73208@mail.kriselda.net> Message-ID: With regards to the IMDB, sometimes they do post incorrect information. Case in point: on the page for the new Phantom of the Opera film, under the cast listing -- for a long time they had listed there Katie Holmes as playing Christine. Finally it was removed, as she had never been officially confirmed in the role, only mentioned as a contender. As of right now, only one name is listed and that is Patrick Wilson, who is apparently set to play Raoul. However, having said that... since POA is currently filming, I think it safe to say that whatever they have listed for the cast on that page is correct. From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com Sun Jun 1 23:31:41 2003 From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:31:41 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Cuaron's "changes" Message-ID: <15.127fbcab.2c0be6dd@aol.com> True but prevoius it wasnt it was the time when the had the press release. Kyle longbottom In a message dated 6/1/03 4:22:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kechelsen at aol.com writes: > With regards to the IMDB, sometimes they do post incorrect > information. Case in point: on the page for the new Phantom of the > Opera film, under the cast listing -- for a long time they had listed > there Katie Holmes as playing Christine. Finally it was removed, as > she had never been officially confirmed in the role, only mentioned > as a contender. As of right now, only one name is listed and that is > Patrick Wilson, who is apparently set to play Raoul. > > However, having said that... since POA is currently filming, I think > it safe to say that whatever they have listed for the cast on that > page is correct. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Tue Jun 3 18:50:49 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:50:49 -0000 Subject: Who is this kid called Dan Radcliffee Message-ID: Since things seem a little slow in the forum at the current time I thought it might be interesting to write about our favorite child actor from HP. Since so little is really know about the kids non- public life (thank goodness) it is easy to speculate on what they are really like based on what we see in public. So I will start with my favorite, Dan. Who is this Kid called Dan Radcliffe? Since Dan sprang upon the scene a little more than two years ago his progress as an actor and growing maturity has fascinated me. I know that some people, mainly young ones take joy in Dan bashing, but I don't think that they are really paying attention to what he has accomplished. At age 11 he starred in, really was, the second highest grossing picture ever, at 12 he repeated the feat with the third highest gross. Yet he appears as your normal kid next door. There seems to be no feeling of importance, no looking down on other actors, no spoiled demands. He has taken on the leadership roll as if it is a perfectly natural thing for a kid to do. He gives interviews like an adult, yet can still be nervous on a TV show. He always seems to be happy. Doesn't he ever get mad, scream and shout? Does he go home and kick the cat and yell and scream at his parents? I think not. How do his parents cope with his fame? He is arguably the most famous person on the planet! They must have many emotions about Dan. Extremely proud, hopes that he can keep it all together and have at least a semi-normal life, and in this day and age, fears about his safety. Do you tell this kid to take out the garbage? Pick up his room? He and his parents must have a really stable relationship. He works hard to improve his acting. He is willing to listen to others on how to improve, something which is very hard for a young teen to do. He reminds me a lot of Ron Howard who worked hard at his craft and knew where he wanted to go in the film business. And Dan reminds me of another teenager, Ryan White the boy from Indiana that contacted AIDS. Ryan was a kid that stepped up to the challenges that were thrust upon him, and made some important changes in how the world viewed AIDs victims. And for a time Ryan was at least the most famous kid on the planet. And while Ryan was a true hero, as his life was threatened because of his stand, and Dan hopefully is not, they both had/have the courage to take on whatever is presented to them. And do it very very well. Watching HPCS for the fifth time I suddenly realized that if you take a picture of Dan as Harry Potter and compare it to a picture of Dan Radcliffe as Dan they don't really look alike. Dan changes as the cameras begin to roll. Not many actors seem to have this ability to mold themselves to the roll. The only current actor I can think of off the top of my head is Tom Hanks although there are others. After the release of HPSS Dave Hayman commented in an interview that Dan was an old soul. And I and not sure exactly what that means, but you can see it in Dan's eyes, his thoughtful answers to questions, and his all around good cheer. . From rvotaw at i-55.com Tue Jun 3 23:08:58 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:08:58 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who is this kid called Dan Radcliffee References: Message-ID: <005901c32a25$255b41c0$939dcdd1@RVotaw> I agree with you, Daniel Radcliffe really seems to be a remarkable young man (see, I'm even trying to stop calling him a "little boy.") A lot of that credit goes to his parents. He must have a very stable home life for him to remain so . . . normal. I've read pretty much all available interviews in the process of building up a number of Harry Potter scrapbooks (one for each movie, as they grew too big for one), and from what he says, they have kept the home life unchanged. He doesn't read articles about himself, he does his chores, makes his bed every morning, and so on. And that's pretty much the only way to do it if you want to keep him with both feet on the ground. And he always seems so happy. Genuinely happy, not just "let me put on a smile for the camera" happy. There's a big difference. Compared with Emma and Rupert, who seem to have basically a normal level of happiness, he just radiates happiness. Doesn't matter if he's dripping wet, freezing cold, he's always smiling. Compare that to most of the students I teach, who come in to the class in the mornings with frowns already and nothing's happened yet! Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From siskiou at earthlink.net Tue Jun 3 23:57:29 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:57:29 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who is this kid called Dan Radcliffee In-Reply-To: <005901c32a25$255b41c0$939dcdd1@RVotaw> References: <005901c32a25$255b41c0$939dcdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: <18117884572.20030603165729@earthlink.net> Hi, Tuesday, June 03, 2003, 4:08:58 PM, rvotaw at i-55.com wrote: > I agree with you, Daniel Radcliffe really seems to be a remarkable > young man (see, I'm even trying to stop calling him a "little boy.") And I hope he gets cut some slack, should he one day not live up to the image of perfection! Nobody is always happy and Daniel Radcliffe has been put on such a pedestal by many that it must be hard for him, sometimes, to act as he feels and not the way he thinks he should. I'm not trying to be negative here, but I almost feel a bit sorry for DR, sometimes. -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From illyana at mindspring.com Wed Jun 4 01:15:07 2003 From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:15:07 -0700 Subject: Black to the future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone remember this post from 12.10.02? It was before Gary Oldman was confirmed as Sirius Black, and we were all discussing who we thought would be good for the part. Anyway, this "T" person said he/she knew who was going to be Sirius, and gave us a clue in the form of "PWOSMCQJPV." So, I am wondering if "T" actually knew that Gary Oldman was going to be cast, but I cannot figure out if the clue works with him. All I have found is that the clue has the same number of characters as "Gary Oldman" (12). Can anyone figure it out. I am just curious if "T" actually knew. illyana Here's the original message: On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:34 , tom_m_gray wrote: > okay i cant take it anymore > > i know the truth about who is playing sirius black in poa > > i am the brother of a friend of the agent for this actor > > i cannot tell you the name of the actor because it has not been > announced but i cannot resist giving a clue > > when it is announced check back here, you will see i was right > > okay the clue is > > PWOSMCQJPV > > if anyone manages to figure it out from the clue then you are > incredible and deserve to know! > > from > > T > HPGCv1 a22 e+ x+* Rm Ri HP4 S+++ Mo++ HG+/VK++ HaP+/SS+++& FGW++ DM++& VC-- GG-- CD+ VK++ SS+++& PT--- AF-- MM++ RL++ O+m FAo F- Sl FHo SfD visit my livejournal! http://www.livejournal.com/users/illyanadmc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From geri510 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 4 03:01:24 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 03:01:24 -0000 Subject: Black to the future In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, illyana delorean wrote: > Does anyone remember this post from 12.10.02? It was before Gary Oldman > was confirmed as Sirius Black, and we were all discussing who we > thought would be good for the part. Anyway, this "T" person said he/she > knew who was going to be Sirius, and gave us a clue in the form of > "PWOSMCQJPV." So, I am wondering if "T" actually knew that Gary Oldman > was going to be cast, but I cannot figure out if the clue works with > him. All I have found is that the clue has the same number of > characters as "Gary Oldman" (12). > > Can anyone figure it out. I am just curious if "T" actually knew. > > illyana > > Here's the original message: > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:34 , tom_m_gray > wrote: > > > okay i cant take it anymore > > > > i know the truth about who is playing sirius black in poa > > > > i am the brother of a friend of the agent for this actor > > > > i cannot tell you the name of the actor because it has not been > > announced but i cannot resist giving a clue > > > > when it is announced check back here, you will see i was right > > > > okay the clue is > > > > PWOSMCQJPV > > > > if anyone manages to figure it out from the clue then you are > > incredible and deserve to know! > > > > from > > > > T Me: I was just thinking the same thing the other day -- I even kept the original post just to make sure that the knew what they were talking about & I still haven't figured it out? From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 4 13:31:32 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:31:32 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan Radcliffe, etc. Message-ID: I have been consistantly impressed with Dan's behavior in the interviews I've seen -- he's generous and genuine and handles the stress amazingly well. We're told he's a bit shy (I read that somewhere) yet when a girl in the Oprah audience asked for a hug, he was totally cooperative -- didn't even blush. Yet he does blush when other things are discussed or other questions asked, I can't think what it was that triggered a blush big enough that I actually saw it on the screen. Emma said the hardest scene for her was the scene where she had to run and hug Dan (at the end of CoS) because she was embarrassed to do it. Yet he seemed perfectly comfortable doing that, holding her hand in various scenes (when she was petrified), etc., and managed to look comfortable doing it. His acting has improved tremendously from the first to second movie -- I was also reminded of Ron Howard in how much he's matured as an actor in a short time. He's not perfect, he'll have ups and downs, but he sure is a cheerful kid, from all appearances. It's nice when the actor seems to be as charming in person as his characters on screen. As for Rupert and Emma -- Rupert will probably have a career as a comic actor. He shows a lot of talent. From what I read and see in various things online, etc., Emma seems to be developing an attitude -- or at least she's a lot less mature than the boys in many ways. Of course, I've never been that fond of Emma as Hermione. She's very pretty, but seems to be awfully prissy, not as open and friendly as the boys. Hermione doesn't come across in the books as prissy. Book!Hermione comes across, to my mind, as bossy, pushy, but in no way prissy. (She also had obviously large front teeth -- I know Emma's wearing something to make her front teeth look bigger -- they do look a LITTLE bit too big for her mouth, but not they'd need braces, which Book!Hermione mentions as something her parents were planning to do for her at some point). I'm sure they did a huge talent search for her too, so she must have been the best one for the part. Maybe the director just didn't guide her towards Book!Hermione as much as I would've liked, I dunno. Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Wed Jun 4 15:18:35 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:18:35 -0000 Subject: Who is this kid called Dan Radcliffee In-Reply-To: <18117884572.20030603165729@earthlink.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Susanne wrote: > > > > Nobody is always happy and Daniel Radcliffe has been put on > such a pedestal by many that it must be hard for him, > sometimes, to act as he feels and not the way he thinks he > should. > > I'm not trying to be negative here, but I almost feel a bit > sorry for DR, sometimes. > > -- > Best regards, > Susanne mailto:siskiou at e... > I agree that being happy 24/7 is not possible, but I think Dan is living his dream he has had since the age of 5 and so far has found it just about as expected. Dan tells the story about learning that he was chosen for the part while sitting in the tub, and starting to cry. Couple that with the fact his parents did not want him to try out for the part because they were afraid he would be disappointed leads me to beleieve Dan had mapped out his life. The tears were more of joy that his plan was coming true than of just getting the part. Bill From WFeuchter at msn.com Wed Jun 4 15:26:26 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:26:26 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > As for Rupert and Emma -- Rupert will probably have a career as a comic > actor. He shows a lot of talent. I agree that is where is strength lies. I do wish that the studio was not turning Ron into a comic relief role. But Rubert is very good at it. >From what I read and see in various things > online, etc., Emma seems to be developing an attitude -- or at least she's a lot > less mature than the boys in many ways. Of course, I've never been that fond of > Emma as Hermione. Well Emma is quite a bit younger than the boys she only turned 13 in April. She's very pretty, but seems to be awfully prissy, not as > open and friendly as the boys. I never really got that impression of her from the interviews I have seen. But even if she is "prissy" I think she is doing a very good job in the role. Bill From WFeuchter at msn.com Thu Jun 5 00:09:15 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:09:15 -0000 Subject: For those who are following the filming of POA Message-ID: DanRadcliffe.com as a report from Scotland from one of their correspondants about her adventure visiting the filming location at Hagrid's hut, and the nearby town. She had her picture taken with Tom Felton twice, met up with Rubert and Emma, saw Dan from a distance. She wrote a nice report with a lot of human interest in it. Bill From WFeuchter at msn.com Thu Jun 5 00:10:59 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:10:59 -0000 Subject: Trio Picture Message-ID: Both Rubertgrint.net and DanRadcliffe.com have the picture that will appear in Vanity Fair. They are quite grown up. Bill From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Thu Jun 5 02:06:19 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 21:06:19 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan Radcliffe, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030604210431.0263ce90@mail.kriselda.net> artsylynda at aol.com recently mentioned: >As for Rupert and Emma -- Rupert will probably have a career as a comic >actor. I really liked Rupert the best of the three in SS, but in CoS, something was just kind of off... I think he needs to find a way to express fear that doesn't involve pulling his mouth back so much - something in how he was doing that was noticeable enough that it actually got distracting at times. However, for a kid his age, under the kind of pressure these movies must create, he's doing quite well, and I suspect as he gets older, he'll probably just get better. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rvotaw at i-55.com Thu Jun 5 02:33:38 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:33:38 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trio Picture References: Message-ID: <005c01c32b0a$df6d85b0$e4a2cdd1@RVotaw> Bill wrote: > Both Rubertgrint.net and DanRadcliffe.com have the picture that will > appear in Vanity Fair. They are quite grown up. Adorable. Completely adorable. But they still look like little kids to me. I showed it to my mom, all she commented on was "Ooh, looks like Daniel's getting muscle!" Oh, please. If my *mother* notices, what are all the teenagers going to say? Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sara1412au at yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 10:20:42 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:20:42 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe, etc. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030604210431.0263ce90@mail.kriselda.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Kriselda Jarnsaxa wrote: > artsylynda at a... recently mentioned: > > >As for Rupert and Emma -- Rupert will probably have a career as a comic actor. I really liked Rupert the best of the three in SS, but in CoS, something was just kind of off... I think he needs to find a way to express fear that doesn't involve pulling his mouth back so much - something in how he was doing that was noticeable enough that it actually got distracting at times. However, for a kid his age, under the kind of pressure these movies must create, he's doing quite well, and I suspect as he gets older, he'll probably just get better. Ron's my favorite character from the books (perhaps I can relate to his haplessness about "everything I (he) owns being rubbish" !). I was pleasantly surprised to see how well Rupert Grint carried him off in PS/SS. I did think that he was a *little* prone to overacting (a wee bit of ham) in Cos and I think that his turn in the "Captain Thunderpants" film that he did after PS may have been a bit responsible. I've heard it mentioned that none of these kids know how much they're being paid for the films (Emma mentioned this in an interview) and I really hope that they do remain down to earth for whatever is left of their childhood. Dan Radcliffe isn't your average kid, to state the obvious - his parents are heavily involved in the entertainment industry, he's an only child and he's been performing since a very young age (unlike the other two kids). In some respects, I suspect that he's more media-savvy and polished than the other two. My two cents (for what it's worth). Sara E.L.L. From blessedbrian at yahoo.com Thu Jun 5 17:37:59 2003 From: blessedbrian at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:37:59 -0000 Subject: Dan Radcliffe, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I saw the picture a mugglenet.com and was immediately impressed at how sharp they all look yet with a hint of a sense of humor. They are definitely "old souls" and I feel that they will be just fine no matter what the future may hold for them (of which I wish them (and Tom and the rest) only the best). But for now, they seem to be having the time of their lives and that's great! Brian:-) From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 6 01:53:59 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 01:53:59 -0000 Subject: Trio Picture In-Reply-To: <005c01c32b0a$df6d85b0$e4a2cdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" wrote: > Bill wrote: > > > Both Rubertgrint.net and DanRadcliffe.com have the picture that will > > appear in Vanity Fair. They are quite grown up. > > Adorable. Completely adorable. But they still look like little kids to me. I showed it to my mom, all she commented on was "Ooh, looks like Daniel's getting muscle!" Oh, please. If my *mother* notices, what are all the teenagers going to say? > > Richelle > > I have never bought Vanity Fair IN MY LIFE (which is a considerable number of years) but I might buy that particular issue (July? August?) just for that photo, which IS adorable. Here are vibes I got from that photo: RUPERT - all arms and legs, still not quite comfortable in his teenage skin even though he's pushing 15. I agree that he'll probably have a career as a comic actor. EMMA - coy and coltish (which means she reminds me a lot of Julia Roberts). I notice that photos of Emma seems to emphasize how slender she is. DAN - Mr. WYSIWYG. What you see is what you get. Open, up-front, down to earth, very grounded (just look at his stance!). A leader. IF he chooses to continue acting, he'll probably have a career as a Young Leading Man by the time he's 20 (with or without more HP films). That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-) Anne U (who can't wait for Harry and Hermione riding Buckbeak!) From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 01:54:00 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Hogwarts scarves In-Reply-To: <13.1c4628ed.2be97172@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030606015400.62351.qmail@web13115.mail.yahoo.com> I have knitted several scarves based on the ones that the kids wear in the films (there are several websites out there with the pattern.) I was wondering: does anyone out there know exactly what kind of yarn was used (merino? acrylic? ...?), what particular brand of yarn was used, and what colors? I haven't been able to find any of this info online. Any suggestions? Thanks! ^_^ Odile From WFeuchter at msn.com Fri Jun 6 02:40:28 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 02:40:28 -0000 Subject: Trio Picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Anne" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" >> > > I have never bought Vanity Fair IN MY LIFE (which is a considerable > number of years) but I might buy that particular issue (July? > August?) just for that photo, which IS adorable. Here are vibes I My understanding that it is the issue that will go on sale next week. I think they give a date on DanRadcliffe.com Bill From geri510 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 03:59:34 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 03:59:34 -0000 Subject: Trio Picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "hpoldfan" wrote: > My understanding that it is the issue that will go on sale next > week. I think they give a date on DanRadcliffe.com > > Bill I just bougth the issue tonight at my local supermarket. The picture is great & it has some tidbits from the trio. From WFeuchter at msn.com Fri Jun 6 04:30:21 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:30:21 -0000 Subject: Trio Picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Anne" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" > wrote: >> DAN - Mr. WYSIWYG. What you see is what you get. Open, up-front, down > to earth, very grounded (just look at his stance!). A leader. IF he > chooses to continue acting, he'll probably have a career as a Young > Leading Man by the time he's 20 (with or without more HP films). > > That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-) > > Anne U > (who can't wait for Harry and Hermione riding Buckbeak!) I really believe that Dan is the rare teenager that knows exactly who and what he is, where he is going, and because of that is expressing the joy of living Bill From artsylynda at aol.com Fri Jun 6 13:46:50 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:46:50 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan Radcliffe, etc. Message-ID: <113.24605113.2c11f54a@aol.com> In a message dated 6/6/2003 5:19:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > I've heard it mentioned that none of these kids know > how much they're being paid for the films (Emma mentioned this in an > interview) We went to see "Bruce Almighty" last night at the movies (it was a lot of fun) and during the stuff they show before the movie (movie trivia, commercials, etc.), they had a trivia thing saying how much Dan was paid for the first one and how much he was paid for the second one. All those kids have to do is for them or their friends to go to the movies and they'll find out how much Dan was paid (if they show the same kind of trivia things before movies in England). That kind of "secret" is hard to keep. More power to all their parents if they manage it! Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk Fri Jun 6 18:51:55 2003 From: TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk (TACtalk at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 19:51:55 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair pic Message-ID: Hi everyone, What's this about a picture in Vanity Fair? Anyone know which edition? Thanks Nicholas From rvotaw at i-55.com Fri Jun 6 19:05:45 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:05:45 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair pic References: Message-ID: <007a01c32c5e$a5f460b0$bfa2cdd1@RVotaw> I think it's the July issue, supposed to be available next week. Apparently the whole issue focuses on teens and the trio is supposed to be the only British kids included. Richelle Hi everyone, What's this about a picture in Vanity Fair? Anyone know which edition? Thanks Nicholas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Is your message... An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jillily3g at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 01:37:15 2003 From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (jillily3g) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 01:37:15 -0000 Subject: extras narrator? Message-ID: Last night I was watching "Faking It" on BBCAmerica and the voice of the narrator seemed familiar. Fortunately, the credits ran slow enough that I could catch his name: Michael Kitchen. It took me a while, but I realized he reminded me of the narrator from the extras on the first DVD. I can't seem to confirm this, so I wondered if anyone else knew who the narrator is? Thanks, Beth From hp at plum.cream.org Sat Jun 7 02:20:01 2003 From: hp at plum.cream.org (GulPlum) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:20:01 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] extras narrator? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030607031432.0097ef00@plum.cream.org> At 02:37 07/06/03 , jillily3g wrote: >Last night I was watching "Faking It" on BBCAmerica and the voice of >the narrator seemed familiar. Fortunately, the credits ran slow >enough that I could catch his name: Michael Kitchen. It took me a >while, but I realized he reminded me of the narrator from the extras >on the first DVD. I can't seem to confirm this, so I wondered if >anyone else knew who the narrator is? *boggle*. I can't really see how it's possible to confuse them. The narrator on the first DVD's menu and extras is the same as the second, and indeed he also reads the US versions of the HP audiobooks: Jim Dale. Dale has lived in California for a heck of a long time and has developed what we like to call "mid-Atlantic" speech patterns (i.e. neither identifiably British nor American). Kitchen's natural speech patterns (which he uses on "Faking It") are pure Received Pronunciation British. And there's nothing in the timbre of their voices which I'd consider to be similar, either. -- GulPlum AKA Richard, who's wondering what Faking It is doing on a BBC channel considering it's not a BBC production (it's shown on Channel Four in the UK.) From CLShannon at aol.com Sat Jun 7 02:19:37 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:19:37 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] extras narrator? Message-ID: <1ec.a597afd.2c12a5b9@aol.com> In a message dated 6/6/03 7:17:13 PM, hp at plum.cream.org writes: << GulPlum AKA Richard, who's wondering what Faking It is doing on a BBC channel considering it's not a BBC production (it's shown on Channel Four in the UK.) >> It's on BBC America, an American cable channel that carries many imported shows, regardless of the network they air on in the U.K. ;-) Cindy From geri510 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 02:44:40 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:44:40 -0000 Subject: extras narrator? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20030607031432.0097ef00@plum.cream.org> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, GulPlum wrote: >-- > GulPlum AKA Richard, who's wondering what Faking It is doing on a BBC > channel considering it's not a BBC production (it's shown on Channel Four > in the UK.) BBCAmerica even shows Graham Norton - it's good to see some shows from home -- missing that accent so much. From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Sat Jun 7 13:09:31 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 13:09:31 -0000 Subject: Hogwarts scarves In-Reply-To: <20030606015400.62351.qmail@web13115.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Odile said: > I have knitted several scarves based on the ones that > the kids wear in the films (there are several websites > out there with the pattern.) Where? Where? Sophia From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Sat Jun 7 14:07:56 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:07:56 -0000 Subject: Photos of props/ questions Message-ID: Have any of you discovered digicasey.com yet? If you click on the link "Casey's Personal Collection," you'll see some close-ups of actual props from the movies. (This guy must be *really* well connected...) I enjoyed them, and thought you might too. Oh, to own even the most insignificant little prop from the actual HP-set... I was just struck by a thought: I think it would be fun to hear which prop(s) you posters would most like to own if you could have your pick. For me, I looooove to have Harry's actual wand. My second choice might be one of those terrific quidditch-robes. What would you choose? I have one more question: What are you most looking forward to in PoA? For me the Shrieking Shack showdown comes in an elevated and way-above-the-rest first place. After that, it's gotta be Snape in a dress. I'm also curious to see how Cuaron will choose to portray the dementor's effect on Harry. Will we see it from Harry's pov as described in the book--swirling mist and all that? What about you? Sophia From gallo at wpaccs.com Sat Jun 7 15:42:56 2003 From: gallo at wpaccs.com (Amy) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:42:56 -0000 Subject: Photos of props/ questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" wrote: > > I was just struck by a thought: I think it would be fun to hear which prop(s) > you posters would most like to own if you could have your pick. QUIDDITCHMOM (THAT'S ME): I've always wanted a Hogwarts school uniform - adult size that is. ;) I just love those black robes! And I would just *love* to have the Sorting Hat...boy, would that make a great mantlepiece or what? SOPHIA: > I have one more question: What are you most looking forward to in PoA? QUIDDITCHMOM: I think what I really want to see is that "fateful" Quidditch match when the dementors swarm in. I agree, I want to see it portrayed in the movie just as it is in the books - that is, Harry's POV. The way I pictured it, I can hear Lily screaming from a distance, like an echo. And Harry would literally go into a fog and...down, down, down. I, too, am eagerly awaiting the Shrieking Shack. Oh please, please, let it have lots of emotion! That scene just cannot fall flat. I hope they give "human" Sirius a great dramatic entrance, when we get to see him for the first time, too. ~Amy (Quidditchmom)...who's eagerly awaiting to see how Cuaron casts *his* spell on the HP world... From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 16:24:18 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 09:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Hogwarts scarves In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030607162418.22729.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> I (Odile) said: > I have knitted several scarves based on the ones that the kids wear in the films (there are several websites out there with the pattern.) < Then Sophia asked: > Where? Where? < Odile (me) again: Here you go, Sophia: http://atypically.net/hp/scarfpattern.shtml She is a huge HP fan - the pattern is the closest I have seen to the "real thing" as far as length, number of stripes and fringes on the end. Plus she recommends brands of yarn and colors. Enjoy! ^_^ I am wondering if it would be worth it to write to WB and ask the film people. Then again, they probably wouldn't want competition when they would rather people buy their merchandise, i.e., that yellow and red Gryff scarf thing they have out. >_< From jillily3g at yahoo.com Sat Jun 7 17:17:22 2003 From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (jillily3g) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:17:22 -0000 Subject: extras narrator? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20030607031432.0097ef00@plum.cream.org> Message-ID: > > *boggle*. I can't really see how it's possible to confuse them. And > there's nothing in the timbre of their voices which I'd consider to be > similar, either. See, this is why I usually lurk. Because the few times I have had a question or an idea it's usually "wrong" or not sophisticated enough for these forums. So sorry my auditory skills are not as advanced. Thanks for the answer anyway. Beth From heidit at netbox.com Sun Jun 8 00:45:18 2003 From: heidit at netbox.com (heiditandy) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 00:45:18 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Nimbus - 2003 :: HPfGU Fundraiser (Info + Update) Message-ID: Hi all -- Before we repeat our fundraising appeal message, the HP4GU Admin Team would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has contributed so far to our Nimbus - 2003 fundraising efforts. With your help, we've raised $400 in the last two months. There's still time before the June 15 deadline to secure a higher level of sponsorship for HP4GU, so if you are thinking about contributing, please, don't delay. We can sponsor about four programming panels now; every dollar gets us closer to an event or item sponsorship. See below for information about how to make your donation: it's quick, it's easy, and it means so much to the fandom. Over the last four years, HP4GU has been the best online source for in-depth, mature discussion of all things Potter. The list has burgeoned to 7,000 members, more than twelve sister and regional lists, and the finest collection of Fantastic Posts essays about HP that one can locate on the web. Regional meetings are no longer so regional. In New York City, Chicago, London, Germany and all over the world in fact, we have met, sometimes in handfuls, sometimes in large numbers. And now, this summer, Harry Potter fans take the next step. More than 400 fans will converge on Orlando, Florida, to create the single largest gathering yet, at the *first ever* symposium centered solely on Harry Potter. But you know all this - or you do if you've been around lately. What you might not know is that Nimbus - 2003 needs HP4GU's help. And HP4GU needs your help. This vitally important first year's symposium - and therefore future symposia - depends on your support. Many people have said things like, "Well, I can't afford Nimbus this year, so I'll wait for next year." We certainly understand if you can't attend this year. But, if you can't go this time, there's an easy way you can help ensure that there is a next time. When the Nimbus - 2003 team formed in June of 2002, they envisioned an event that would set the tone. They saw the groundwork for future events, perhaps even eventually large enough to rent our own castle in Scotland for a long week-end. If event after event can prove our sincerity and our integrity, then perhaps we will win the respect of WB, JKR's agents, and even JKR herself. We could position this chain of symposia to become the official convention for adults, and possibly even become the preferred symposium for pursuit of the books. But without fan support, none of that can happen. Corporate sponsorship, which the event's organizers believed would be a natural source of funding, has not materialized as anticipated. Even corporations with significant ties to HP merchandise have been uninterested. The Nimbus - 2003 team attributes this to changing relationships of licensees to WB, the struggle of an unhistoried, untested event, and of course the general economy and world situation. Despite their hope that they would be able to supplement registrations with corporate contributions and lift the burden from the fans, the team finds themselves in need of grassroots assistance. Since Nimbus is the event that HP4GU inspired, they have turned to us, as well as the corners of the fandom, for that help. That is why, in addition to lending its reputation and support to Nimbus - 2003, we at HP4GU would like to make that support financial and be an official Nimbus "Symposium Sponsor." Nimbus - 2003 has various kinds and levels of sponsorship (http://www.hp2003.org/nimbushelpsp.html) - sponsorship of the entire symposium is set at $15,000. Yes, that sounds like a lot of money, but this list has about 7,000 members - if only half the members of HPfGU donate five dollars each, the list will raise enough to cover that sponsorship level. Since we started this drive, a number of people have made that five dollar contribution - and others have given even more. A few people have also asked about "Matching Gifts", which are programs that many companies offer, to support charities supported by their employees. You can check with your personnel or human resources professional today to see if matching gift forms exist at your place of business, and if it does, you can fill out one of their matching gift forms. Generally, your employer then donates directly to HPEF. Let us know offlist (sponsor at hp2003.org) if you need address information for such a form. The Symposium Sponsorship would pay for: ** Internet cafe, so that attendees and presenters can connect with HP fans around the world who are unable to attend Nimbus - 2003. Cost includes computer rental and internet access costs. [$5,000] ** Coverage of honoraria, hotel, and airfare for the Special Guests, including: Judith Krug, Connie Neal, John Granger, Philip Nel, and Roger Highfield [$3,500] ** Coverage of the Judith Krug Keynote Luncheon (Judith Krug is the Director of the Office of Intellectual Freedom for the American Library Association and will speak on the subject of censorship and book banning, with reference to Harry Potter in particular) [$3,000] ** The Farewell Breakfast on Sunday [$2,500] ** Welcoming Feast and Meet-and-Greet on Thursday night [$1,000] Moreover, for those of you who are U.S. taxpayers, your donation to the HP4GU Nimbus - 2003 sponsorship may be tax-deductible. HP Education Fanon, Inc., the company created to oversee these periodic recurring symposia, has been granted tax-exempt 501(c)3 status as an educational organization. That means your contribution carries the same advantages to you as a donation to your local charity of choice. We hope you will be part of the only event to grow out of the excellent, deep, shocking, and hilarious conversations you've enjoyed online. Be part of the vision shared by list member, elf, geist, and moderator alike. Even if you can't attend - even if you will - you have a chance to help make Harry Potter history. With your help, we can continue to prove that HP4GU is one of the best HP communities around - on the Web, or in person. With your help, that reputation will only be heightened, through the contact with and exchange between fans and academics and professionals who are equally enamoured of the books and all they represent. Plus, you'll be helping to create an amazing reality which for some will reinforce - or *create* - longstanding friendships and new communities. To make a donation, simply send funds via paypal to: hpfgu-donate at hp2003.org Or, if you prefer, you may send your donation (whether in US funds or other currency) to: Harry Potter Symposium - 2003 PO Box 18769 Rochester, NY 14618-0769 We hope that whether you can join us or not, you will consider making a contribution to show your support - not just for this year's event, but to ensure the future of any other similar conferences brought to you on behalf of *your* email list: HPforGrownups. Yours in anticipation of Nimbus - 2003, The HP4GU Moderators P.S. Don't forget, only $5 from you will do the trick! Follow this link (http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/nimbus-2003) to contribute to a Nimbus - 2003 Symposium Sponsorship today! We're only collecting through June 14, so if you're planning to donate, you only have a few days left! Checks received after that will be considered contributions to Nimbus - 2003, but might not be able to be included in the HPfGU total. From rvotaw at i-55.com Sun Jun 8 02:18:04 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:18:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Vanity Fair Message-ID: <10079101.1055038684338.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. Of course, we'd seen the picture online scanned, but it was even better full page and all. It also includes favorites and so on for each of the three. One thing I found amusing is who Daniel Radcliffe's idol now is. Gary Oldman. I wonder why?! :) Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CLShannon at aol.com Sun Jun 8 02:26:11 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:26:11 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Message-ID: <130.20ca4155.2c13f8c3@aol.com> In a message dated 6/7/03 7:20:50 PM, rvotaw at i-55.com writes: << Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. Of course, we'd seen the picture online scanned, but it was even better full page and all. It also includes favorites and so on for each of the three. One thing I found amusing is who Daniel Radcliffe's idol now is. Gary Oldman. I wonder why?! :) >> I was going to mention that too ;-) Does anyone know if Gary has starting working on the movie yet? I don't know where they are in the filming, but maybe we can assume he's already started working with Dan ;-) I haven't gotten the issue yet, but saw the scans of the 'favorites'. I had to chuckle when I read that Dan's Favorite Guy's Guy is Sid Vicious and Rupert's is Sponge Bob Square Pants Cindy From glcherry at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 8 04:56:50 2003 From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (stardancerofas) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 04:56:50 -0000 Subject: Hogwarts Scarves Message-ID: Well, for those of us who can't knit to save their lives, there is an alternative :) www.alivans.com (Master Makers of fine Wands) is now selling Gryffindor Scarves. Plus, they have just started a line of Racing Brooms. And what makes them really great (I can say this as I have made purchases from them. I own a beautiful Mahogany Wand with Unicorn :) ) Is that if you are worried about giving a credit card number online...they will accept money orders. No, I don't work for alivans, I'm just a very satisfied customer. I bought one of the scarves. Like I said...can't knit to save my life. :) Lorrie From doliesl at yahoo.com Sun Jun 8 07:15:58 2003 From: doliesl at yahoo.com (doliesl) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:15:58 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair In-Reply-To: <10079101.1055038684338.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, rvotaw at i... wrote: > Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. Of > course, we'd seen the picture online scanned, but it was even better full page > and all. It also includes favorites and so on for each of the three. One > thing I found amusing is who Daniel Radcliffe's idol now is. Gary Oldman. I > wonder why?! :) I remember last year Dan was saying he's into old school classic punk, including Sex Pistol of course, and has switched his favorite HP character to Sirius too. So now he has found the "link" between the two. ;) -D. From dkewpie at pacbell.net Sun Jun 8 07:22:59 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:22:59 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair In-Reply-To: <130.20ca4155.2c13f8c3@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote: > to chuckle when I read that Dan's Favorite Guy's Guy is Sid Vicious Wow! so Dan's favorite guy is Sid Vicious, idol is Gary oldman and favorite HP character is Sirius. what a coincidence that all three are connected! :P Dan must have a great experience working with Mr. Oldman. Joan From rachelday at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Jun 8 11:16:58 2003 From: rachelday at blueyonder.co.uk (RACHEL DAY) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:16:58 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair References: <10079101.1055038684338.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Message-ID: <004701c32daf$7a43db60$02fd1e3e@y8y5j8> Richelle said: >> Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. << Hi, does anyone know if Vanity Fair is sold in Britain because I've not seen it anywhere and I *really* want this article. I'm pretty sure we don't have Barnes and Nobles but that might just be my area, I'm not sure. I assumed it must be sold here because i saw the picture of the trio in the paper but it didnt say anything else. Desperate for information, Rachel ----- Original Message ----- From: rvotaw at i-55.com To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. Of course, we'd seen the picture online scanned, but it was even better full page and all. It also includes favorites and so on for each of the three. One thing I found amusing is who Daniel Radcliffe's idol now is. Gary Oldman. I wonder why?! :) Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Is your message... An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From morrigan at byz.org Sun Jun 8 20:13:34 2003 From: morrigan at byz.org (Vicki) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:13:34 -0500 Subject: Vanity Fair In-Reply-To: <004701c32daf$7a43db60$02fd1e3e@y8y5j8> Message-ID: Hi there - I know that you have the Border's bookstore chain in England - perhaps call them and ask if they stock the US Vanity Fair? I know the Border's here stock some UK mags. If you are in Oxford, I could just bring you one as I'm going there this week... Vicki > -----Original Message----- > From: > sentto-3597161-6643-1055071175-morrigan=byz.org at returns.groups.yahoo.com > [mailto:sentto-3597161-6643-1055071175-morrigan=byz.org at returns.groups.y > ahoo.com]On Behalf Of RACHEL DAY > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:17 AM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair > > > Richelle said: > >> Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. << > > Hi, does anyone know if Vanity Fair is sold in Britain because > I've not seen it anywhere and I *really* want this article. I'm > pretty sure we don't have Barnes and Nobles but that might just > be my area, I'm not sure. I assumed it must be sold here because > i saw the picture of the trio in the paper but it didnt say > anything else. > > Desperate for information, > Rachel From rvotaw at i-55.com Sun Jun 8 20:30:05 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:30:05 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair References: <130.20ca4155.2c13f8c3@aol.com> Message-ID: <006d01c32dfc$bfc78b80$689ccdd1@RVotaw> Cindy wrote: > I was going to mention that too ;-) Does anyone know if Gary has starting > working on the movie yet? I don't know where they are in the filming, but maybe > we can assume he's already started working with Dan ;-) I know Gary Oldman did all the moving pictures and that sort a while ago. I heard they were filming something out near Glencoe close to one of the lakes? That could involve Sirius, with the dementors coming around the lake and all. Not sure. > I haven't gotten the issue yet, but saw the scans of the 'favorites'. I had > to chuckle when I read that Dan's Favorite Guy's Guy is Sid Vicious and > Rupert's is Sponge Bob Square Pants I found that very amusing. What a contrast! Not to mention I seem to be sadly behind the times, I had to look up an Ipod and Digeridoo. I had a vague idea what an Ipod was, but no clue on the Digeridoo thing. I mean, I found a digeridoo, but I'm not sure if it's what I'd call a gadget, so maybe there's another. Anyone know? (Really, how many digeridoos can there be!?) Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Sun Jun 8 20:50:22 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (Bill Feuchter) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:50:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ADMIN: Nimbus - 2003 :: HPfGU Fundraiser (Info + Update) References: Message-ID: The link below does not work. Bill P.S. Don't forget, only $5 from you will do the trick! Follow this link (http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/nimbus-2003) to contribute to a Nimbus - 2003 Symposium Sponsorship today! We're only collecting through June 14, so if you're planning to donate, you only have a few days left! Checks received after that will be considered contributions to Nimbus - 2003, but might not be able to be included in the HPfGU total. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scully931 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 05:05:00 2003 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: John Williams concert Message-ID: Hi, I had to post about somthing funny that happened Friday night. I went to see John Williams conducting the Pittsburgh Pops. They were playing his movie music including a four song Harry Potter section. It was a fabulous concert. But, something kind of um... disturbing happened. John Williams himself was introducing the Harry Potter section. He said, "The first song is called 'Hedwig's Theme.' It's about Harry's pet... owl. I think it's an owl. Well, whatever. His big white bird." Ok, that was bad enough. You could hear murmers going through the audience. THEN, he said, "And next we have the piece called 'Nimbus 2000,' which is about Harry's magic wand." 8-0 The whole audience started whispering to one another in amazment. He didn't seem to notice, though. I couldn't believe it! I mean, he wrote the darn thing. It was really funny... and a little disturbing. But, overall, a great concert. Deborah From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Mon Jun 9 13:29:06 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams concert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030609132906.53219.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Scully931 wrote: >Hi, >I went to see John Williams conducting the >Pittsburgh Pops. They were >playing his movie music including a four song >Harry Potter section. >It was a fabulous concert. But, something >kind of um... disturbing >happened. John Williams himself was >introducing the Harry Potter >section. He said, "The first song is called >'Hedwig's Theme.' It's >about Harry's pet... owl. I think it's an >owl. Well, whatever. His >big white bird." Ok, that was bad enough. You >could hear murmers >going through the audience. THEN, he said, >"And next we have the >piece called 'Nimbus 2000,' which is about >Harry's magic wand." 8-0 >The whole audience started whispering to one >another in amazment. He >didn't seem to notice, though. I couldn't >believe it! I mean, he >wrote the darn thing. It was really funny... >and a little >disturbing. But, overall, a great concert.> >Deborah Lea: I guess he's never seen the movie or he would understand exactly where his brilliant music fits in. My son is in television production and he tells me that for all of the people working in the background, a lot of them have no idea how their work is being used, ie carpentry, costumes and obviously even the music. Maybe they should be showing the finished product to the crew as part of their job, so they know exactly where their indivual efforts fit into the finished product. Then in future people like Mr Williams would be able to properly refer to their work when it's being presented. Lea :) --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Jun 9 13:41:56 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:41:56 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Message-ID: <3b.393d79a3.2c15e8a4@aol.com> In a message dated 6/9/2003 5:19:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > >I haven't gotten the issue yet, but saw the scans of the 'favorites'. I > had > >to chuckle when I read that Dan's Favorite Guy's Guy is Sid Vicious and > >Rupert's is Sponge Bob Square Pants > > I found that very amusing. What a contrast! Not to mention I seem to be > sadly behind the times, I had to look up an Ipod and Digeridoo. I had a vague > idea what an Ipod was, but no clue on the Digeridoo thing. I mean, I found a > digeridoo, but I'm not sure if it's what I'd call a gadget, so maybe there's > another. Anyone know? (Really, how many digeridoos can there be!?) > I know of a digeridoo that's an Australian musical instrument -- I just did an online search, here's a link to show you one: http://www.giftlog.com/cgi-bin/ustorekeeper.pl?command=goto&file=Didgeridoo.htm . I don't know if there's something else with the same name or not. Can't wait to see the article. Lynda Sappington Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold and sterling silver. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From manda at qx.net Mon Jun 9 20:30:15 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 13:30:15 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams concert In-Reply-To: <20030609132906.53219.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <3EE48BE7.9597.21C574@localhost> On 9 Jun 2003 at 9:29, Lea wrote: > I guess he's never seen the movie or he would understand exactly where > his brilliant music fits in. > > My son is in television production and he tells me that for all of the > people working in the background, a lot of them have no idea how their > work is being used, ie carpentry, costumes and obviously even the > music. Maybe they should be showing the finished product to the crew > as part of their job, so they know exactly where their indivual > efforts fit into the finished product. Then in future people like Mr > Williams would be able to properly refer to their work when it's being > presented. The way I've seen it on every score DVD featurette, the composer is sent a cut of the film and he or she composes to the film action. The movie is projected onto a screen inside the recording studio when the score is recorded to make sure things sync up correctly. I would find it quite incredible if John Williams has not seen at least a rough cut of the film. That said, it was revealed last week that Williams had not really 'scored' the films in the traditional meaning. He merely "supervised" (but he will really score the 3rd film): http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/MTarchives/week_2003_06_01.html#002924 Then again, he is getting old and maybe a tad senile. Perhaps he just forgot or got confused. I surely hope so. Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From spicecow at hotmail.com Mon Jun 9 17:31:22 2003 From: spicecow at hotmail.com (Nik A) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 03:31:22 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Message-ID: >I had a vague idea what an Ipod was, but no clue on the Digeridoo thing. I >mean, I found a digeridoo, but I'm not sure if it's what I'd call a gadget, >so maybe there's another. Anyone know? (Really, how many digeridoos can >there be!?) A didgeridoo is an Aboriginal instrument, it's the one that you always hear in Aboriginal music, like a kind of weird, deep, hollow warbling sound. It looks like a big, long hollow pipe made of wood that's usually decorated with Aboriginal painting on the outside, and they're pretty popular with tourists. They sell them in almost every souvenir shop here. I'm guessing maybe Rupert or someone he knows has been to Australia and picked one up. Ash's Evil Hand _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp From hickengruendler at yahoo.de Mon Jun 9 22:15:21 2003 From: hickengruendler at yahoo.de (hickengruendler) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:15:21 -0000 Subject: PoA and GoF casting In-Reply-To: <20030516213205.8005.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would love to see Sean Connery as Mad-Eye Moody. I think he would be brilliant. Or maybe Anthony Hopkins? I think both Helen Mirren and Emma Thompson could play Sybill Trelawney in their sleep, as could Jennifer Saunders, but I want to see Jennifer as Rita Skeeter. Barty Crouch sr. could be played by Roger Moore and I always imagined Kristin Scott-Thomas as Mrs. Lestrange. For Fleur Delacour I would love to see an actress from France, maybe Emanuelle B?ard. Hickengruendler From trinity61us at yahoo.com Mon Jun 9 23:37:32 2003 From: trinity61us at yahoo.com (Alex Fox) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 23:37:32 -0000 Subject: Sirius Black Poster? Message-ID: Has anyone else seen the supposed poster from POA with Gary Oldman as Sirius on it and the caption, "Don't look behind you." ? A friend sent it to me, and it looks real, but how could it be, so soon? If you want to see it, e-mail me. We can't put attachments on here. I must admit, it looks pretty cool! Alex Fox From janine.akerstrom at sun.com Mon Jun 9 23:43:39 2003 From: janine.akerstrom at sun.com (Janine Akerstrom) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:43:39 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black Poster? References: Message-ID: <3EE51BAB.D15A30D@Sun.COM> Alex Fox wrote: > > Has anyone else seen the supposed poster from POA with Gary Oldman as > Sirius on it and the caption, "Don't look behind you." ? A friend > sent it to me, and it looks real, but how could it be, so soon? If > you want to see it, e-mail me. We can't put attachments on here. I > must admit, it looks pretty cool! Hi Alex, Could you send it to me? I am very curious... Thanks! Janine From ed4u at attbi.com Mon Jun 9 23:46:05 2003 From: ed4u at attbi.com (Katy Melo) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:46:05 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black Poster? References: Message-ID: <3EE51C3D.00002F.01820@KATY> That would be sooo great if the poster is real!!! Please could you send it to me ed4u at attbi.com I have been viewing all the photos on the leaky C site!! Does anyone know where they are in their filming right now? What scenes? KT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From illyana at mindspring.com Tue Jun 10 00:40:34 2003 From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:40:34 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black Poster? In-Reply-To: <3EE51C3D.00002F.01820@KATY> Message-ID: <255E350C-9ADC-11D7-996B-003065B8B954@mindspring.com> yah, it's a fake. i brought it up a few months ago. see message #6582 for details. illyana On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 04:46 , Katy Melo wrote: > That would be sooo great if the poster is real!!! Please could you > send it > to me ed4u at attbi.com I have been viewing all the photos on the leaky C > site!! Does anyone know where they are in their filming right now? What > scenes? > > KT > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! 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HPGCv1 a22 e+ x+* Rm Ri HP4 S+++ Mo++ HG+/VK++ HaP+/SS+++& FGW++ DM++& VC-- GG-- CD+ VK++ SS+++& PT--- AF-- MM++ RL++ O+m FAo F- Sl FHo SfD visit my livejournal! http://www.livejournal.com/users/illyanadmc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From trinity61us at yahoo.com Tue Jun 10 00:45:34 2003 From: trinity61us at yahoo.com (alex fox) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius Black Poster? In-Reply-To: <255E350C-9ADC-11D7-996B-003065B8B954@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20030610004534.36353.qmail@web14902.mail.yahoo.com> Ahhhh, well...I'm sure there will be a plethora of them before Nov. 2004! Still, it's kinda cool. But with those dreadlocks, he would have to turn into a Kommondor when he transforms into a dog! LOL! Alex Fox illyana delorean wrote: yah, it's a fake. i brought it up a few months ago. see message #6582 for details. illyana On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 04:46 , Katy Melo wrote: > That would be sooo great if the poster is real!!! Please could you > send it > to me ed4u at attbi.com I have been viewing all the photos on the leaky C > site!! Does anyone know where they are in their filming right now? What > scenes? > > KT > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin > Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary > material from posts to which you're replying! > > Is your message... > An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to > HPFGU-Announcements. > Movie-related? 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From glorificus21 at bigpond.com Tue Jun 10 01:47:29 2003 From: glorificus21 at bigpond.com (glory) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:47:29 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair References: Message-ID: <005c01c32ef2$6ab1b3e0$94c18b90@fickwalker> Ash's Evil Hand said: A didgeridoo is an Aboriginal instrument, it's the one that you always hear in Aboriginal music, like a kind of weird, deep, hollow warbling sound. It looks like a big, long hollow pipe made of wood that's usually decorated with Aboriginal painting on the outside, and they're pretty popular with tourists. They sell them in almost every souvenir shop here. I'm guessing maybe Rupert or someone he knows has been to Australia and picked one up. Actually, Dan Radcliffe spent Christmas and the New Year here in Australia. He spent Christmas in Melbourne where he played cricket with a family he met during Christmas dinner and spent New Years in Sydney. So he would've seen a didgeridoo or maybe even picked one up as a souvenir himself. Glory [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From wendy.moncur at nre.vic.gov.au Tue Jun 10 02:09:42 2003 From: wendy.moncur at nre.vic.gov.au (Wendy Moncur) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 02:09:42 -0000 Subject: John Williams concert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have been a huge fan of John Williams for over 20 years. I have noticed how his scores now are sounding very familiar. eg play the main track of Harry Potter, then play the main track to "Home Alone". Methinks I hear a very familiar sounding "young boy" theme. I'm not saying they are the same, just reminiscent of one another. It's like, if you intensively study 20 of Monet's paintings, and then you look at one more, you'd instantly recognise the style of Monet. You just say yeah, it's his work alright. From rvotaw at i-55.com Tue Jun 10 02:15:43 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:15:43 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair References: <005c01c32ef2$6ab1b3e0$94c18b90@fickwalker> Message-ID: <013701c32ef6$32713ba0$5b9ccdd1@RVotaw> Glory wrote: > Actually, Dan Radcliffe spent Christmas and the New Year here in Australia. > He spent Christmas in Melbourne where he played cricket with a family he met > during Christmas dinner and spent New Years in Sydney. So he would've seen a > didgeridoo or maybe even picked one up as a souvenir himself. Except it was Rupert who said his favorite gadget was a didgeridoo, not Dan. I suppose it's not impossible that Dan could've brought him one. Or someone else who he knew who visited Australia. On another note, I read an interview that was done since the beginning of PoA filming (different from the one noted earlier here where Dan got some sort of award--that one was German I think, this one was French--I read the translated version). If they weren't the Rita Skeeter sort (making sentences out of "Uhs") and can be believed, Daniel said there definitely was Quidditch, and from what he said it sounded like definitely only one game. Which must be the one the dementors come to. He also said while it wasn't certain yet, he was 90% sure he'd be back for GoF. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Tue Jun 10 02:17:21 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: John Williams concert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030610021721.84878.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Good Point. Howard Shore did the music for Lord of the Rings and he also did the music for Jurassic Park, which I watched the other day for the first time. The music really freaked me out because of the similarity and I kept expecting a Hobbit or Gandolf to appear at any time. Lea :) Wendy Moncur wrote: I have been a huge fan of John Williams for over 20 years. I have noticed how his scores now are sounding very familiar. eg play the main track of Harry Potter, then play the main track to "Home Alone". Methinks I hear a very familiar sounding "young boy" theme. I'm not saying they are the same, just reminiscent of one another. It's like, if you intensively study 20 of Monet's paintings, and then you look at one more, you'd instantly recognise the style of Monet. You just say yeah, it's his work alright. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From siskiou at earthlink.net Tue Jun 10 02:19:36 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:19:36 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair In-Reply-To: <013701c32ef6$32713ba0$5b9ccdd1@RVotaw> References: <005c01c32ef2$6ab1b3e0$94c18b90@fickwalker> <013701c32ef6$32713ba0$5b9ccdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: <12986377444.20030609191936@earthlink.net> Hi, Monday, June 09, 2003, 7:15:43 PM, rvotaw at i-55.com wrote: > f they weren't the > Rita Skeeter sort (making sentences out of "Uhs") and can be believed, > Daniel said there definitely was Quidditch, and from what he said it > sounded like definitely only one game. Which must be the one the > dementors come to. He also said while it wasn't certain yet, he was > 90% sure he'd be back for GoF. It sounds like this one might have been the French translation of the German magazine article. It said pretty much the same in the German one. -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From CLShannon at aol.com Tue Jun 10 02:31:32 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:31:32 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Message-ID: <21.306ca5c2.2c169d04@aol.com> In a message dated 6/9/03 7:21:06 PM, siskiou at earthlink.net writes: << It sounds like this one might have been the French translation of the German magazine article. It said pretty much the same in the German one. >> No, it's from a French magazine, it's only been posted to the sites since yesterday. The translation is on danradcliffe.com. The magazine is called 'One', the cover is one of the scans and the titles are definitely in French. The translation is from the interview with Dan and here's what he says about quidditch. << Will there be a new Quidditch Match? Daniel :: "Yes, and it will be more impressive than the first two. There will be a lot of special effects that have been seen in cinema before. I cannot wait to play that scene!" <<<<< I think the translator left out a 'not' in the sentence about the special effects 'that have been seen in cinema before', however ;-) Since he says he can't wait to play that scene and the first response of his mentions what he is doing 'now', which was the Knights Bus, Dursleys, etc, we can assume the interview was done soon after they started filming back in Feb-March. He also talks a bit about Sirius Black, but says he can't reveal anything, even under the threat of torture ;-) Of course, this is the second time he's mentioned quidditch, so maybe finally we can convince everyone that it is in the movie Cindy From diana at slashcity.com Tue Jun 10 03:34:02 2003 From: diana at slashcity.com (Diana Williams) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 23:34:02 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: John Williams concert References: Message-ID: <01e601c32f01$2f3ebf60$0a02a8c0@DianaPC> From: "Wendy Moncur" > I have been a huge fan of John Williams for over 20 years. I have > noticed how his scores now are sounding very familiar. eg play the > main track of Harry Potter, then play the main track to "Home Alone". > Methinks I hear a very familiar sounding "young boy" theme. That's something I've noticed with a lot of composers, and it can lead to some disconcerting moments. I remember an amusing moment in particular - a group of friends had just seen one of the early Star Trek movies and then we were watching "Wind and the Lion" on video when some very familiar music came on. Our heads nearly twisted off as we turned to stare at the TV and someone quipped "I didn't know there were Klingons in *this* desert!" Diana W. From hp at plum.cream.org Tue Jun 10 12:22:17 2003 From: hp at plum.cream.org (GulPlum) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:22:17 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair/Poster In-Reply-To: <004701c32daf$7a43db60$02fd1e3e@y8y5j8> References: <10079101.1055038684338.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030610130945.00976220@plum.cream.org> At 12:16 08/06/03 , RACHEL DAY wrote: >Richelle said: > >> Well, I found the July issue of Vanity Fair today at Barnes & Noble. << > >Hi, does anyone know if Vanity Fair is sold in Britain because I've not >seen it anywhere and I *really* want this article. I'm pretty sure we >don't have Barnes and Nobles but that might just be my area, I'm not sure. >I assumed it must be sold here because i saw the picture of the trio in >the paper but it didnt say anything else. Try W H Smith. All the Smiths here in Birmingham stock Vanity Fair, so even if your local branch is small and non-cosmopolitan (you give no indication of whereabouts in the UK you live) they will definitely be able to get it for you through their internal distribution system. And on the subject of that infamous fake poster which has, again, been the subject of speculation. Think about it folks: it's *WAY* too early for a final poster and there's FAR too much detail on that thing for it to be a teaser. It's even too early for a teaser poster, given that the movie's not out for another year and there are plenty of blockbusters scheduled between now and Christmas (which is when I'd expect the teaser to appear). The first two movies' teaser posters did not include Harry or anyone else (the first was an owl with the letter, the second was Dobby). I am prepared to lay odds that the teaser for PoA will be a "Wanted" poster with a barely-recognisable Oldman hiding behind a lot of facial hair. It would make sense in terms of what's come before, and in terms of the movie's plot. The first was an invitation, the second an unspecified warning. The movies are clearly "growing up" and hopefully attracting a slightly different audience. A slightly different poster design is called for. From hp at plum.cream.org Tue Jun 10 12:41:00 2003 From: hp at plum.cream.org (GulPlum) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:41:00 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: John Williams In-Reply-To: <20030610021721.84878.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030610132805.009cec50@plum.cream.org> At 03:17 10/06/03 , Lea wrote: >Good Point. Howard Shore did the music for Lord of the Rings and he also >did the music for Jurassic Park, which I watched the other day for the >first time. The music really freaked me out because of the similarity and >I kept expecting a Hobbit or Gandolf to appear at any time. Huh? All three Jurassic Park movies were scored by John Williams. And I can't really see any similarity with the LOTR movies at all. The JPs are typical Williams wall-to-wall bombast with very little subtlety (just like the two HP movies, IMO). If you want subtlety from Williams (of which he is certainly capable), then try Amistad, Schindler's List or Catch Me If You Can (all very different stylistically and thematically, but individually great). Shore is a very different composer to Williams and tends not to write great sweeping "themes" (one of Williams' foibles which really irritates me, to be honest), but music which is there to serve what happens on the screen, and not to jump out at you, grab you by the neck and not let go. So again, I'm really sure where you see the similarities between JP and Shore's LOTR material. JP III might give some room for confusion, but the first one? From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Tue Jun 10 12:49:44 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: John Williams In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20030610132805.009cec50@plum.cream.org> Message-ID: <20030610124944.41877.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> My apologies, you're right. Note - on checking imdb.com (which may not always be accurate) is listing HP & GoF for 2005 as Announced, beside John Williams name. lea :) GulPlum wrote: All three Jurassic Park movies were scored by John Williams. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Tue Jun 10 12:56:59 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:56:59 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited Message-ID: Looking at the real picture in the magazine there is a small note along the left side. I have not seen it in the scans. It says "Radcliffe's clothes are his own. Watson's dress by Emilio Pucci Jacket by Tyler, Grint's T-shirt by Hugo....". It made me wonder if Dan insisted on being just plain Dan, because in all the other pictures of teens, they all wore designer clothes. Bill From artsylynda at aol.com Tue Jun 10 13:22:30 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:22:30 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams concert Message-ID: <114.2494fae1.2c173596@aol.com> In a message dated 6/10/2003 5:36:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > I guess he's never seen the movie or he would understand exactly where his > brilliant music fits in. > > My son is in television production and he tells me that for all of the > people working in the background, a lot of them have no idea how their work is > being used, ie carpentry, costumes and obviously even the music. Maybe they > should be showing the finished product to the crew as part of their job, so they > know exactly where their indivual efforts fit into the finished product. > Then in future people like Mr Williams would be able to properly refer to their > work when it's being presented. > > Lea :) > I knew a TV composer years back and asked him about this myself. He said they are given a length of time and a "mood" for the section of music they need to write most of the time. But there are times when the composer actually watches the movie to determine what to write. I saw a TV special on John Williams, actually, years ago, that showed him watching a scene from some movie he scored (maybe one of the "Indiana Jones" movies?? I don't remember) and conducting the orchestra as the film played in front of them, so he could adjust the tempo as needed to suit the action, as I recall. Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Tue Jun 10 13:31:44 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:31:44 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams Message-ID: <1de.a3ba0a8.2c1737c0@aol.com> In a message dated 6/10/2003 5:36:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > Good Point. Howard Shore did the music for Lord of the Rings and he also > did the music for Jurassic Park, which I watched the other day for the first > time. The music really freaked me out because of the similarity and I kept > expecting a Hobbit or Gandolf to appear at any time. > > Lea :) > > Wendy Moncur wrote: > I have been a huge fan of John Williams for over 20 years. I have > noticed how his scores now are sounding very familiar. eg play the > main track of Harry Potter, then play the main track to "Home Alone". > Methinks I hear a very familiar sounding "young boy" theme. > > I'm not saying they are the same, just reminiscent of one another. > It's like, if you intensively study 20 of Monet's paintings, and then > you look at one more, you'd instantly recognise the style of Monet. > You just say yeah, it's his work alright. > Williams' style has been apparent in all the movies he's done, to my ear. He's quite fond of brass, of big sounds, of grand and glorious swells and lots of instruments. Danny Elfman, who did the title theme of Harry Potter, is known for his quirky, odd style of music with intriguing dissonances and disjointed melodies, which so well suits Harry Potter's theme, as well as to lots of Tim Burton's films ("Batman," that Halloween-type cartoon thing whose name just escaped me, etc.) I was glad to hear Elfman's music as the main theme, Williams' as the rest of the music -- a good blend for the subject matter. Well chosen composers, IMO. I can understand Williams forgetting details about the HP movie because he's probably done LOTS of scores since he did the ones for CoS and SS/PS, and he probably has never seen them in a theater, nor gotten as obsessed with HP as we are. Plus, at our age (he's a bit older than I am), forgetfulness does start to rear it's ugly head. My doctor says it's "clutter" not Alzheimers, and I'm sure Williams has a more cluttered brain than I do! ;-> Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Tue Jun 10 13:35:17 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:35:17 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Quidditch (was Vanity Fair) Message-ID: <1ee.aad7faf.2c173895@aol.com> > << > Will there be a new Quidditch Match? > > Daniel :: "Yes, and it will be more impressive than the first two. There > will > be a lot of special effects that have been seen in cinema before. I cannot > wait to play that scene!" > > <<<<< There was an interview with him a few months ago where he mentioned "Quidditch in thunder and lightning" and how spectacular that was going to be. And I read recently (sorry, don't remember where) that the producers had also said yes, there will be Quidditch in PoA. Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From manda at qx.net Tue Jun 10 18:23:08 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:23:08 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams In-Reply-To: <1de.a3ba0a8.2c1737c0@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EE5BF9C.32627.1B86E9E@localhost> On 10 Jun 2003 at 9:31, artsylynda at aol.com wrote: > > Danny Elfman, who did the title theme > of Harry Potter, is known for his quirky, odd style of music with > intriguing dissonances and disjointed melodies, which so well suits > Harry Potter's theme, as well as to lots of Tim Burton's films > ("Batman," that Halloween-type cartoon thing whose name just escaped > me, etc.) I was glad to hear Elfman's music as the main theme, > Williams' as the rest of the music -- a good blend for the subject > matter. I'm sorry, but huh? Danny Elfman has no connection to Harry Potter. "Hedwig's Theme" (which I guess is the main one) is very John Williams to my ear. I can hear pieces of Hook, Home Alone, and Witches of Eastwick in there (which is one reason why I don't like it). Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From amani at charter.net Tue Jun 10 20:57:32 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:57:32 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] John Williams concert References: <114.2494fae1.2c173596@aol.com> Message-ID: <005a01c32f92$e9a45ea0$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> > I guess he's never seen the movie or he would understand exactly where his > brilliant music fits in. > > My son is in television production and he tells me that for all of the > people working in the background, a lot of them have no idea how their work is > being used, ie carpentry, costumes and obviously even the music. Maybe they > should be showing the finished product to the crew as part of their job, so they > know exactly where their indivual efforts fit into the finished product. > Then in future people like Mr Williams would be able to properly refer to their > work when it's being presented. > > Lea :) Lynda: I knew a TV composer years back and asked him about this myself. He said they are given a length of time and a "mood" for the section of music they need to write most of the time. But there are times when the composer actually watches the movie to determine what to write. I saw a TV special on John Williams, actually, years ago, that showed him watching a scene from some movie he scored (maybe one of the "Indiana Jones" movies?? I don't remember) and conducting the orchestra as the film played in front of them, so he could adjust the tempo as needed to suit the action, as I recall. Me: I recall hearing that for Patrick Doyle's incredible first movie score for Henry V, he was actually present for shooting to grasp as much of the mood and theme as possible. (Not sure about his subsequent work on Branagh films) On the LotR Extended DVD, I think you do see Howard Shore conducting against the movie on a screen as well--I may be mistaken, though. --Taryn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Tue Jun 10 22:04:28 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:04:28 +0100 Subject: OT; Test Message-ID: Sorry about this, guys. I have changed my e-mail address and have been having problems with e-mail and didn't seem to be receiving properly. I think I have sorted the problem, but just want to check. Thanks Nicholas From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Tue Jun 10 22:24:22 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:24:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA and GoF casting In-Reply-To: References: <20030516213205.8005.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030610172348.03211dd0@mail.kriselda.net> hickengruendler recently mentioned: >I would love to see Sean Connery as Mad-Eye Moody. THAT would be nice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Tue Jun 10 22:30:50 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:30:50 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: John Williams concert In-Reply-To: <01e601c32f01$2f3ebf60$0a02a8c0@DianaPC> References: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030610172712.0320fc98@mail.kriselda.net> Diana Williams recently mentioned: >That's something I've noticed with a lot of composers, and it can lead to >some disconcerting moments. I remember an amusing moment in particular - a >group of friends had just seen one of the early Star Trek movies and then we >were watching "Wind and the Lion" on video when some very familiar music >came on. Our heads nearly twisted off as we turned to stare at the TV and >someone quipped "I didn't know there were Klingons in *this* desert!" ROFL!! Hans Zimmer's a lot the same way, but I LOVE his stuff. It think it happens with just about every artist, though, because at the core, art is a reflection of he or she who made it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rvotaw at i-55.com Wed Jun 11 00:48:32 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:48:32 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Revisited References: Message-ID: <011701c32fb3$32007c90$d59ccdd1@RVotaw> Bill wrote: > Looking at the real picture in the magazine there is a small note > along the left side. I have not seen it in the scans. It > says "Radcliffe's clothes are his own. Watson's dress by Emilio > Pucci Jacket by Tyler, Grint's T-shirt by Hugo....". It made me > wonder if Dan insisted on being just plain Dan, because in all the > other pictures of teens, they all wore designer clothes. Oh, I love it. Sure enough, I went through the magazine on my lunch break today, and out of 28 teens featured, 27 of them wore designer clothes with detailed descriptions of the products (down to the underwear in some cases). And then there was Daniel. The 1 out of 28 who wore his own clothes. Who was it recently described him as Mr. What You See is What You Get? That pretty much sums it up! Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Wed Jun 11 03:24:29 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 03:24:29 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited In-Reply-To: <011701c32fb3$32007c90$d59ccdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" > Oh, I love it. Sure enough, I went through the magazine on my lunch break today, and out of 28 teens featured, 27 of them wore designer clothes with detailed descriptions of the products (down to the underwear in some cases). And then there was Daniel. The 1 out of 28 who wore his own clothes. Who was it recently described him as Mr. What You See is What You Get? That pretty much sums it up! > > Richelle I think Dan is so comfortable with who he is, that he doe not feel the need to hide behind fancy clothes. More power to him! If we all could be so comfortable! Bill From geri510 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 11:41:24 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:41:24 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "hpoldfan" wrote: > I think Dan is so comfortable with who he is, that he doe not feel > the need to hide behind fancy clothes. > > More power to him! If we all could be so comfortable! > > Bill I agree, I've seen many pictures & videos of Dan where he is wearing the same clothes. He's not one of those celebrities who has to wear a different name brand for every interview - like so many others. From grace701 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 11 14:09:33 2003 From: grace701 at yahoo.com (Greicy de los Santos) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited In-Reply-To: <1055324212.561.32311.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20030611140933.20161.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Aren't they given designer clothes to choose from. Perhaps the photographer liked what Daniel was wearing and told him to stick with it? Greicy, who's trying to make Emma Watson, Hilary Duff, the Olsen Twins and Mandy Moore seem very down to earth like Daniel ^-^ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Meliss9900 at aol.com Wed Jun 11 14:19:12 2003 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:19:12 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Vanity Fair Revisited Message-ID: <1cf.b9aa2a1.2c189460@aol.com> In a message dated 6/11/2003 9:12:12 AM Central Standard Time, grace701 at yahoo.com writes: > Aren't they given designer clothes to choose from. Perhaps the > photographer liked what Daniel was wearing and told him to stick with it? > > > > Greicy, who's trying to make Emma Watson, Hilary Duff, the Olsen Twins and > Mandy Moore seem very down to earth like Daniel ^-^ > I don't think its the photographers choice. If anyone really has a choice its the magazine. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Wed Jun 11 14:22:28 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:22:28 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited In-Reply-To: <20030611140933.20161.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Greicy de los Santos wrote: > > Aren't they given designer clothes to choose from. Perhaps the photographer liked what Daniel was wearing and told him to stick with it? > > > > Greicy, who's trying to make Emma Watson, Hilary Duff, the Olsen Twins and Mandy Moore seem very down to earth like Daniel ^-^ > I like to think that while Dan will do almost anything his employer wants him to do, he is his own man when it comes to the media and public. Also aren't these photo spreads, especially of and for teens, meant to sell things? If Dan wore a designer outfit would not the sales go right thru the roof? No I think Dan does what he wants in these situations. And it is ok for Emma and Rupert to go along with the fads. They seem pretty much down to earth to me. Bill From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 11 14:34:48 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:34:48 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]John Williams Message-ID: <7a.41a9f3c9.2c189808@aol.com> > Danny Elfman has no connection to Harry Potter. "Hedwig's Theme" (which I > guess is the main one) is very John Williams to my ear Oops, my mistake -- it sounds very "Elfman" to me, and I thought I remembered seeing his name in the credits somewhere. I just looked on a website listing his works, and it's not listed. Old brain = swiss cheese. . .argh. Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 11 14:39:37 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:39:37 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair Message-ID: <36.41f670f3.2c189929@aol.com> In a message dated 6/11/2003 5:39:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > > Oh, I love it. Sure enough, I went through the magazine on my lunch break > today, and out of 28 teens featured, 27 of them wore designer clothes with > detailed descriptions of the products (down to the underwear in some cases). > And then there was Daniel. The 1 out of 28 who wore his own clothes. Who was > it recently described him as Mr. What You See is What You Get? That pretty > much sums it up! > > Richelle > I looked at the magazine on the newstand and thought Rupert's shirt looked rumpled and "lived in" enough to be his own favorite shirt. Dan's clothes looked the same. I didn't notice that note about who the designers were. In most of the interviews I've seen, and pictures of the trio, Dan and Rupert seem to be in play clothes most of the time, while Emma seems to "dress up" a lot more and "pose" a lot more. Maybe it's a girl thing, heehee. I've always thought it interesting that the boys seemed to have just come from playing somewhere (although they were clean, not mud-covered), unlike the pictures you see of other celeb young people. Maybe that's part of the "grounding" they seem to have, that they don't worry about dressing up, or dressing like a "star" for interviews or photo sessions (although I have seen Dan looking very dapper in a suit in various pictures -- mostly from the Orient, as I recall. Wonder why the difference? Or were those pics from openings?) Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 11 15:44:26 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:44:26 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair Revisited In-Reply-To: <011701c32fb3$32007c90$d59ccdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" wrote: > Oh, I love it. Sure enough, I went through the magazine on my lunch break today, and out of 28 teens featured, 27 of them wore designer clothes with detailed descriptions of the products (down to the underwear in some cases). And then there was Daniel. The 1 out of 28 who wore his own clothes. Who was it recently described him as Mr. What You See is What You Get? That pretty much sums it up! I wrote that :-) I haven't seen the VF article yet (will try to pick it up at Borders) but this little detail just nails it for me. Not only does he wear his own clothes, but he's pictured wearing his "hacking around" clothes and not his movie-premiere clothes. Mr. WYSIWYG indeed. Anne U (who thinks the countdown to POA: The Movie might be almost as excruciating as the countdown to OotP has been) From jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 11 17:19:32 2003 From: jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net (Woolfolk) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:19:32 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair References: <36.41f670f3.2c189929@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EE764A4.6090106@sbcglobal.net> > I didn't notice that note about who the designers were. In most > of the interviews I've seen, and pictures of the trio, Dan and Rupert > seem to > be in play clothes most of the time, while Emma seems to "dress up" a > lot more > and "pose" a lot more. Maybe it's a girl thing, heehee. I would think. I know as a teenage girl I would have loved the opportunity to try on different designer stuff to wear on a photo shoot. Julie W in AR From buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 11 17:25:45 2003 From: buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Su?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:25:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: John Williams Concert In-Reply-To: <1055324212.561.32311.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20030611172545.83244.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> <> He also appeared in 'Much Ado About Nothing ' singing and playing on the guitar (or a banjo..not sure). Anyway he's got a Harry Potter connection through Cauron.... he also composed music for 'A Little Princess'. Kibi --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Wed Jun 11 18:25:36 2003 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:25:36 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: AOL snippet of OOP (NO SPOILERS in this ADMIN) Message-ID: Greetings from Hexquarters! (I know that this isn't hugely relevant to Movie, but it's being posted on all our lists.) It has been announced that the snippet released by AOL of book five was NOT APPROVED BY JKR's PUBLISHERS. This means that it is covered by the legal injunction banning any publication of Book V before midnight BST June 21 2003. Therefore, all posts quoting or discussing the text of this snippet have been deleted by the Administration Team. Any further posts discussing or quoting parts of this snippet will also be deleted. This is not in order to spoil anyone's fun. We are in danger of being in contempt of court if we do not make every effort to comply with a legal injunction. Individual posters should note that they may also be in contempt if they knowingly publish part of Book V on a public forum. We apologise to members who will receive the deleted posts via individual e-mail or via digest. It is not technically possible for us to remove posts from digests or recall posts that have already been e-mailed to listmembers. Pippy Elf For the Administration Team From kechelsen at aol.com Wed Jun 11 20:10:33 2003 From: kechelsen at aol.com (kathye_c) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 20:10:33 -0000 Subject: John Williams Concert In-Reply-To: <20030611172545.83244.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <<--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Su wrote: He also appeared in 'Much Ado About Nothing ' singing and playing on the guitar (or a banjo..not sure).>> Oh, was that who that was?! I think the instrument was some kind of lute, but I'd have to pull the film out to check. I love that song -- I think it's called Hey Nonnie Nonnie. It was a beautiful tune, and I looked for it in sheet music at one time, but never found it. Doyle is gifted though -- I've sung one of the two songs he wrote for Sense and Sensibility (the ones Marianne sings). Beautiful. Kathy From rvotaw at i-55.com Wed Jun 11 22:22:14 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:22:14 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Vanity Fair Revisited References: <20030611140933.20161.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015101c33067$f3dda5e0$419fcdd1@RVotaw> Greicy wrote: > Aren't they given designer clothes to choose from. Perhaps the photographer liked what Daniel was > wearing and told him to stick with it? I think it's a lot more likely that Daniel liked what he was wearing and told them (politely, I'm sure) he'd rather keep it on than change into their designer stuff. Bill wrote: > Also aren't these photo spreads, especially of and for teens, > meant to sell things? If Dan wore a designer outfit would not > the sales go right thru the roof? No I think Dan does what he > wants in these situations. Yep. Which is why they detail everything down to the underwear if so much as a strap shows. It would definitely be in the magazine's best interest for Dan to wear something from a designer. Which is what every other person was wearing (though Rupert's was just the shirt, it didn't say anything about the pants). Lynda wrote: > interviews or photo sessions (although I have seen Dan looking > very dapper in a suit in various pictures -- mostly from the > Orient, as I recall. Wonder why the > difference? Or were those pics from openings?) Those pictures were all from premieres. So far Dan has worn a suit (or a something along the line of a sports coat) to every premiere. That includes SS/PS London and New York premieres, and CoS premieres in London, New York, China and Japan. There was also at least one photo shoot where he wore a suit. Anne U. wrote: > I wrote that :-) I haven't seen the VF article yet (will try to > pick it up at Borders) but this little detail just nails it for > me. Not only does he wear his own clothes, but he's pictured > wearing his "hacking around" clothes and not his movie-premiere > clothes. Mr. WYSIWYG indeed. Ah, yes, it was you. :) This definitely removes any doubt of that, doesn't it? Richelle From pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk Thu Jun 12 21:01:24 2003 From: pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk (bluesqueak) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:01:24 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: AOL snippet of OOP (NO SPOILERS in this ADMIN) Message-ID: Greetings from Hexquarters! (Again, this isn't hugely relevant to Movie, but it's being posted on all lists) The snippet of Book Five has now been restored to AOL and Amazon.com. However, there is still a legal injunction banning any publication of Book V before midnight BST June 21 2003. Listmembers are reminded that transcribing or quoting any part of Book V on this board could be legally defined as publication. Therefore, all posts quoting the text of this snippet have been deleted by the Administration Team. Any further posts quoting parts of this snippet will also be deleted. Our legal understanding is that you are allowed to discuss the snippet, providing you can work out how to do so without quoting even one word from it. We are not saying this in order to spoil anyone's fun. We are in danger of being in contempt of court if we do not make every effort to comply with a legal injunction. Individual posters should note that they may also be in contempt if they knowingly publish part of Book V on a public forum. In the eight days remaining, there may be other `leaked' segments appearing. Please DO NOT TRANSCRIBE them and publish them on this list. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUBLISH ANY PART OF BOOK V BEFORE JUNE 21. After June 21 2003, the `reasonable quotation' rules will be in effect. We apologise to members who have received any deleted posts via individual e-mail or via digest. It is not technically possible for us to remove posts from digests or recall posts that have already been e-mailed to listmembers. Listmembers are also reminded that spoiler prefixes are in operation. Any listmember who does not use the OOP: header prefix for a post containing information released about Book V will be headed for a short trip to Mr. Filch's office. Pippy Elf For the Administration Team From elfundeb at comcast.net Thu Jun 12 22:41:38 2003 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb2) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:41:38 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Nimbus Fundraiser - 2d Update Message-ID: Hi all -- We, the HPFGU Admin Team, are excited to update you on the progress of our fundraising since we last repeated the fundraising appeal message. Thanks in large part to a *very* generous donation from an individual (who wishes to remain anonymous) we have now raised a total of $1500. This will allow HPFGU to sponsor a small event or item, plus some programming. We've reached the last moments of the fundraising drive -- it ends Sunday, June 15 -- but if we could raise an additional $500, we could increase our presence at Nimbus. You can find details on how to make your donation below. No sponsorship would have been possible without your generous support, and once again we thank all who have donated. *********** Over the last four years, HP4GU has been the best online source for in-depth, mature discussion of all things Potter. The list has burgeoned to 7,000 members, more than twelve sister and regional lists, and the finest collection of Fantastic Posts essays about HP that one can locate on the web. Regional meetings are no longer so regional. In New York City, Chicago, London, Germany and all over the world in fact, we have met, sometimes in handfuls, sometimes in large numbers. And now, this summer, Harry Potter fans take the next step. More than 400 fans will converge on Orlando, Florida, to create the single largest gathering yet, at the *first ever* symposium centered solely on Harry Potter. But you know all this - or you do if you've been around lately. What you might not know is that Nimbus - 2003 needs HP4GU's help. And HP4GU needs your help. This vitally important first year's symposium - and therefore future symposia - depends on your support. Many people have said things like, "Well, I can't afford Nimbus this year, so I'll wait for next year." We certainly understand if you can't attend this year. But, if you can't go this time, there's an easy way you can help ensure that there is a next time. When the Nimbus - 2003 team formed in June of 2002, they envisioned an event that would set the tone. They saw the groundwork for future events, perhaps even eventually large enough to rent our own castle in Scotland for a long week-end. If event after event can prove our sincerity and our integrity, then perhaps we will win the respect of WB, JKR's agents, and even JKR herself. We could position this chain of symposia to become the official convention for adults, and possibly even become the preferred symposium for pursuit of the books. But without fan support, none of that can happen. Corporate sponsorship, which the event's organizers believed would be a natural source of funding, has not materialized as anticipated. Even corporations with significant ties to HP merchandise have been uninterested. The Nimbus - 2003 team attributes this to changing relationships of licensees to WB, the struggle of an unhistoried, untested event, and of course the general economy and world situation. Despite their hope that they would be able to supplement registrations with corporate contributions and lift the burden from the fans, the team finds themselves in need of grassroots assistance. Since Nimbus is the event that HP4GU inspired, they have turned to us, as well as the corners of the fandom, for that help. That is why, in addition to lending its reputation and support to Nimbus - 2003, we at HP4GU would like to make that support financial and be an official Nimbus "Symposium Sponsor." Nimbus offers Symposium Sponsorhip at the level of $15,000 (USD). That sounds like a lot. But remember how we said that the list boasts over 7,000 members? That means that if only half of you are able to donate $5 apiece, HP4GU can realize its goal. If you can give more, please give more, because we know there are those among you who cannot give any, much as you might like to. This sponsorship would pay for: ** Internet cafe, so that attendees and presenters can connect with HP fans around the world who are unable to attend Nimbus - 2003. Cost includes computer rental and internet access costs. [$5,000] ** Coverage of honoraria, hotel, and airfare for the Special Guests, including: Judith Krug, Connie Neal, John Granger, Philip Nel, and Roger Highfield [$3,500] ** Coverage of the Judith Krug Keynote Luncheon (Judith Krug is the Director of the Office of Intellectual Freedom for the American Library Association and will speak on the subject of censorship and book banning, with reference to Harry Potter in particular) [$3,000] ** The Farewell Breakfast on Sunday [$2,500] ** Welcoming Feast and Meet-and-Greet on Thursday night [$1,000] Moreover, for those of you who are U.S. taxpayers, your donation to the HP4GU Nimbus - 2003 sponsorship may be tax-deductible. HP Education Fanon, Inc., the company created to oversee these periodic recurring symposia, has been granted tax-exempt 501(c)(3) status as an educational organization. That means your contribution carries the same advantages to you as a donation to your local charity of choice. We hope you will be part of the only event to grow out of the excellent, deep, shocking, and hilarious conversations you've enjoyed online. Be part of the vision shared by list member, elf, geist, and moderator alike. Even if you can't attend - even if you will - you have a chance to help make Harry Potter history. With your help, we can continue to prove that HP4GU is one of the best HP communities around - on the Web, or in person. With your help, that reputation will only be heightened, through the contact with and exchange between fans and academics and professionals who are equally enamoured of the books and all they represent. Plus, you'll be helping to create an amazing reality which for some will reinforce - or *create* - longstanding friendships and new communities. To make a donation, simply send funds via paypal to: hpfgu-donate at hp2003.org Or, if you prefer, you may send your donation (whether in US funds or other currency) to: Harry Potter Symposium - 2003 PO Box 18769 Rochester, NY 14618-0769 We hope that whether you can join us or not, you will consider making a contribution to show your support - not just for this year's event, but to ensure the future of any other similar conferences brought to you on behalf of *your* email list: HPforGrownups. Yours in anticipation of Nimbus - 2003, The HP4GU Administration Team P.S. Don't forget, only $5 from you will do the trick! Follow this link (http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/nimbus-2003) to contribute to a Nimbus - 2003 Symposium Sponsorship today! From innermurk at catlover.com Thu Jun 12 22:00:31 2003 From: innermurk at catlover.com (innermurk) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:00:31 -0000 Subject: Spacy awards Message-ID: Hey, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, because I don't get daily emails from this site. Anywhooo....HPCOS the movie, is up for two of the Spacy awards. Go vote for it!!!! The catagories it's nominated for are: Favorite Movie Hero Favorite Creature Character Here's the link: http://www.spacecast.com/spaceys/ The voting ends on June 13th :) Thanks, Innermurk From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Fri Jun 13 03:52:16 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 23:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Spacy awards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030613035216.98398.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> thanks for the link.... I managed to get my two knuts in before the deadline.. Lea :) innermurk wrote: Hey, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, because I don't get daily emails from this site. Anywhooo....HPCOS the movie, is up for two of the Spacy awards. Go vote for it!!!! The catagories it's nominated for are: Favorite Movie Hero Favorite Creature Character Here's the link: http://www.spacecast.com/spaceys/ The voting ends on June 13th :) Thanks, Innermurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Is your message... An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 09:04:27 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:04:27 -0000 Subject: Vanity Fair picture of trio Message-ID: Did anyone who read the "Vanity Fair" article regarding all those teenagers notice that Emma, Dan and Rupert were not mentioned at all in the actual text accompanying the article? Admittedly, I only scanned the article looking for their names, but I didn't see any one of the three mentioned at all. Did anyone find any mention of them other than their little interview blurbs on the picture and continued on the two-page spread of interview bubbles? I noticed that Emma was the youngest teen who was profiled and that Daniel was the second youngest. Diana L. P.S. A note to 'Vanity Fair': the 'teen' who was born in 1977 is NOT a TEEN! He may play one on TV, but he's still not a teenager! And neither are the 'teens' born in 1981 and 1982. From rvotaw at i-55.com Fri Jun 13 14:25:48 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:25:48 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair picture of trio References: Message-ID: <00e001c331b7$b1ee0c50$d5a2cdd1@RVotaw> Diana L. wrote: > Did anyone who read the "Vanity Fair" article regarding all those > teenagers notice that Emma, Dan and Rupert were not mentioned at all > in the actual text accompanying the article? Admittedly, I only There was only one mention, just about two or three lines. Part of it was the quote that is on the picture itself, "Where would the Harry Potter movie series be without Emma Watson's bossy boots." > I noticed that Emma was the youngest teen who was profiled and that > Daniel was the second youngest. Yes, and I'm fairly certain that Daniel as second youngest was still the only one born in 1989. Rupert was either third youngest or within a few months, I believe there was one other teen born in 1988. > P.S. A note to 'Vanity Fair': the 'teen' who was born in 1977 is > NOT a TEEN! He may play one on TV, but he's still not a teenager! > And neither are the 'teens' born in 1981 and 1982. I thought the same thing! Can we stretch that one more year? I was born in 1976, am I still a teen too? What they play on TV has nothing to do with whether they are teens or not! However, if we use Vanity Fair rules, Daniel can safely play Harry Potter for at least 12 more years. :) Considering I didn't think that 25 year old guy looked much younger than he was. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sky14381 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 13 15:18:21 2003 From: sky14381 at yahoo.com (filmgeek20) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:18:21 -0000 Subject: yayyy! school sweaters from movie Message-ID: Alas...my search has come to an end! I don't know about all of you, but next week I'll be wearing a Slytherin costume to Barnes and Noble! ;D wizarduniforms.com finally opened! Did anyone else order one? From bkdelong at pobox.com Fri Jun 13 15:21:21 2003 From: bkdelong at pobox.com (B.K. DeLong) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:21:21 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] yayyy! school sweaters from movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030613111946.026446a0@PO11.MIT.EDU> At 03:18 PM 6/13/2003 +0000, filmgeek20 wrote: >Alas...my search has come to an end! I don't know about all of you, >but next week I'll be wearing a Slytherin costume to Barnes and >Noble! ;D wizarduniforms.com finally opened! Did anyone else order >one? Don't forget to take pictures for "48 Hours in the Wizarding World": http://www.muari.org/48hours/ ;) -- B.K. DeLong Editor-in-Chief The Leaky Cauldron bkdelong at the-leaky-cauldron.org http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ +1.617.797.2472 Harry Potter MeetUp And Read-In Starting Fri., June 20th 2003 http://www.muari.org From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Fri Jun 13 23:39:33 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Vanity Fair picture of trio In-Reply-To: <00e001c331b7$b1ee0c50$d5a2cdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: <20030613233933.75068.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> Richelle Votaw wrote: Diana L. wrote: > Did anyone who read the "Vanity Fair" article regarding all those > teenagers notice that Emma, Dan and Rupert were not mentioned at all > in the actual text accompanying the article? Lea: I still can't find this issue here in Canada..... sigh.... Lea :( --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From siskiou at earthlink.net Sat Jun 14 16:23:52 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:23:52 -0700 Subject: No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? Message-ID: <16690457408.20030614092352@earthlink.net> Hi, I just read the news on TLC, and a UK paper (Daily Mail) has reported that DR will most likely not come back as Harry Potter after PoA. I've always hated it when they switch actors for characters I've grown to like, and what I dislike even more is that it sounds like EW and RG will be swept out, too, then. Start with a clear slate, or something... -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From Meliss9900 at aol.com Sat Jun 14 16:28:15 2003 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:28:15 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? Message-ID: <14.1360cdfb.2c1ca71f@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2003 11:25:20 AM Central Standard Time, siskiou at earthlink.net writes: > Hi, > > I just read the news on TLC, and a UK paper (Daily Mail) > has reported that DR will most likely not come back as > Harry Potter after PoA. > > I've always hated it when they switch actors for characters > I've grown to like, and what I dislike even more is that it > sounds like EW and RG will be swept out, too, then. > I found this at TLC.org CBBC Newsround | TV FILM | Daniel Radcliffe 'quit' rumours are rubbish [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From siskiou at earthlink.net Sat Jun 14 16:30:14 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:30:14 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? In-Reply-To: <16690457408.20030614092352@earthlink.net> References: <16690457408.20030614092352@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <10290839804.20030614093014@earthlink.net> Hi, Saturday, June 14, 2003, 9:23:52 AM, siskiou at earthlink.net wrote: > I just read the news on TLC, and a UK paper (Daily Mail) > has reported that DR will most likely not come back as > Harry Potter after PoA. BBC Newsround says the article is "rubbish", so I hope *that's* true! -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From Meliss9900 at aol.com Sat Jun 14 16:34:23 2003 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:34:23 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? Message-ID: <1e2.b19205a.2c1ca88f@aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/2003 11:31:26 AM Central Standard Time, siskiou at earthlink.net writes: > BBC Newsround says the article is "rubbish", so I hope > *that's* true! > > I remember reading in the last week a direct qoute from Daniel saying he was 90% sure that he'd be back in GOF. And I also read an interview with David Heyman saying that filming for GOF starts beginngin of next year. I think that if Dan were making quitting noises there would already be a search for a new Harry going on. Let me see if I can hunt them up Melissa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Sat Jun 14 16:37:43 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? In-Reply-To: <14.1360cdfb.2c1ca71f@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030614163743.59729.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> Meliss9900 at aol.com wrote: I found this at TLC.org CBBC Newsround | TV FILM | Daniel Radcliffe 'quit' rumours are rubbish Melissa, thanks for that link.. I had also heard in another interview from Dan (sorry, I can't remember where) that he would like to return for GoF. It seems that Chris Colombus has been going on ever since the 1st movie that the kids were only going to make 3 movies and then quit - I really think this is possibly what he wishes, but he's really starting to tick me off! And thank goodness he's not the one who makes those decisions. Lea :) --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From gypseelynn at yahoo.com Sun Jun 15 04:13:23 2003 From: gypseelynn at yahoo.com (Rebecca Sylvester) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] No more Daniel Radcliffe after PoA? In-Reply-To: <14.1360cdfb.2c1ca71f@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030615041323.4701.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Meliss9900 at aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/14/2003 11:25:20 AM Central Standard Time, siskiou at earthlink.net writes: > Hi, > > I just read the news on TLC, and a UK paper (Daily Mail) > has reported that DR will most likely not come back as > Harry Potter after PoA. > > I've always hated it when they switch actors for characters > I've grown to like, and what I dislike even more is that it > sounds like EW and RG will be swept out, too, then. > I found this at TLC.org CBBC Newsround | TV FILM | Daniel Radcliffe 'quit' rumours are rubbish Hi, I've never posted on this siter before so forgive me if i mess up. Maybe I read the article wrong, or maybe we looked at two different articles, but the one that I read said that DR will be IN PoA and GoF, that he had no intention of leaving and that it was just rumors. I sure hope that I read it right because I really enjoy the actors, and (like you) I hate when they change midstream! Anxiously Awaiting OoP Beckah [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Is your message... An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From elfundeb at comcast.net Sun Jun 15 11:31:53 2003 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb2) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:31:53 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Last Day of Nimbus Fundraiser Message-ID: Hi all -- We, the HPFGU Admin Team, are excited to update you on the progress of our fundraising since we last repeated the fundraising appeal message. Thanks in large part to a *very* generous donation from an individual (who wishes to remain anonymous) we have now raised a total of $1500. This will allow HPFGU to sponsor a small event or item, plus some programming. We've reached the last moments of the fundraising drive -- it ends Sunday, June 15 -- but if we could raise an additional $500, we could increase our presence at Nimbus. You can find details on how to make your donation below. No sponsorship would have been possible without your generous support, and once again we thank all who have donated. *********** Over the last four years, HP4GU has been the best online source for in-depth, mature discussion of all things Potter. The list has burgeoned to 7,000 members, more than twelve sister and regional lists, and the finest collection of Fantastic Posts essays about HP that one can locate on the web. Regional meetings are no longer so regional. In New York City, Chicago, London, Germany and all over the world in fact, we have met, sometimes in handfuls, sometimes in large numbers. And now, this summer, Harry Potter fans take the next step. More than 400 fans will converge on Orlando, Florida, to create the single largest gathering yet, at the *first ever* symposium centered solely on Harry Potter. But you know all this - or you do if you've been around lately. What you might not know is that Nimbus - 2003 needs HP4GU's help. And HP4GU needs your help. This vitally important first year's symposium - and therefore future symposia - depends on your support. Many people have said things like, "Well, I can't afford Nimbus this year, so I'll wait for next year." We certainly understand if you can't attend this year. But, if you can't go this time, there's an easy way you can help ensure that there is a next time. When the Nimbus - 2003 team formed in June of 2002, they envisioned an event that would set the tone. They saw the groundwork for future events, perhaps even eventually large enough to rent our own castle in Scotland for a long week-end. If event after event can prove our sincerity and our integrity, then perhaps we will win the respect of WB, JKR's agents, and even JKR herself. We could position this chain of symposia to become the official convention for adults, and possibly even become the preferred symposium for pursuit of the books. But without fan support, none of that can happen. Corporate sponsorship, which the event's organizers believed would be a natural source of funding, has not materialized as anticipated. Even corporations with significant ties to HP merchandise have been uninterested. The Nimbus - 2003 team attributes this to changing relationships of licensees to WB, the struggle of an unhistoried, untested event, and of course the general economy and world situation. Despite their hope that they would be able to supplement registrations with corporate contributions and lift the burden from the fans, the team finds themselves in need of grassroots assistance. Since Nimbus is the event that HP4GU inspired, they have turned to us, as well as the corners of the fandom, for that help. That is why, in addition to lending its reputation and support to Nimbus - 2003, we at HP4GU would like to make that support financial and be an official Nimbus "Symposium Sponsor." Nimbus offers Symposium Sponsorhip at the level of $15,000 (USD). That sounds like a lot. But remember how we said that the list boasts over 7,000 members? That means that if only half of you are able to donate $5 apiece, HP4GU can realize its goal. If you can give more, please give more, because we know there are those among you who cannot give any, much as you might like to. This sponsorship would pay for: ** Internet cafe, so that attendees and presenters can connect with HP fans around the world who are unable to attend Nimbus - 2003. Cost includes computer rental and internet access costs. [$5,000] ** Coverage of honoraria, hotel, and airfare for the Special Guests, including: Judith Krug, Connie Neal, John Granger, Philip Nel, and Roger Highfield [$3,500] ** Coverage of the Judith Krug Keynote Luncheon (Judith Krug is the Director of the Office of Intellectual Freedom for the American Library Association and will speak on the subject of censorship and book banning, with reference to Harry Potter in particular) [$3,000] ** The Farewell Breakfast on Sunday [$2,500] ** Welcoming Feast and Meet-and-Greet on Thursday night [$1,000] Moreover, for those of you who are U.S. taxpayers, your donation to the HP4GU Nimbus - 2003 sponsorship may be tax-deductible. HP Education Fanon, Inc., the company created to oversee these periodic recurring symposia, has been granted tax-exempt 501(c)(3) status as an educational organization. That means your contribution carries the same advantages to you as a donation to your local charity of choice. We hope you will be part of the only event to grow out of the excellent, deep, shocking, and hilarious conversations you've enjoyed online. Be part of the vision shared by list member, elf, geist, and moderator alike. Even if you can't attend - even if you will - you have a chance to help make Harry Potter history. With your help, we can continue to prove that HP4GU is one of the best HP communities around - on the Web, or in person. With your help, that reputation will only be heightened, through the contact with and exchange between fans and academics and professionals who are equally enamoured of the books and all they represent. Plus, you'll be helping to create an amazing reality which for some will reinforce - or *create* - longstanding friendships and new communities. To make a donation, simply send funds via paypal to: hpfgu-donate at hp2003.org Or, if you prefer, you may send your donation (whether in US funds or other currency) to: Harry Potter Symposium - 2003 PO Box 18769 Rochester, NY 14618-0769 We hope that whether you can join us or not, you will consider making a contribution to show your support - not just for this year's event, but to ensure the future of any other similar conferences brought to you on behalf of *your* email list: HPforGrownups. Yours in anticipation of Nimbus - 2003, The HP4GU Administration Team P.S. Don't forget, only $5 from you will do the trick! Follow this link (http://www.hpfgu.org.uk/nimbus-2003) to contribute to a Nimbus - 2003 Symposium Sponsorship today! From buffyeton at yahoo.com Mon Jun 16 05:11:04 2003 From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:11:04 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? Message-ID: Here are my nominations for who SHOULD have written the screenplays: Emma Thompson- Sense and Sensibility screenplay Laura Jones- Angela's Ashes Joss Whedon- Buffy the Vampire Slayer William Broyles Jr.- Apollo 13, Cast Away Akiva Goldsman- The Client, A Beautiful Mind Jill Gordon- Angus Frank Darabont- The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile Richard Curtis- Bridget Jones's Diary, Notting Hill Randall Wallace- Braveheart, Pearl Harbor, Man in the Iron Mask And directors: Alan Parker- Angela's Ashes, The Commitments Billy Weber: Josh and Sam, editor Miss Congeniality, Top Gun Jan de Bont: Twister, Speed Ron Howard- A Beautiful Mind, Apollo 13, Parenthood Robert Zemeckis: Forrest Gump, Cast Away From dkewpie at pacbell.net Mon Jun 16 05:32:31 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:32:31 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tamara" wrote: > And directors: > > Alan Parker- Angela's Ashes, The Commitments > Billy Weber: Josh and Sam, editor Miss Congeniality, Top Gun > Jan de Bont: Twister, Speed > Ron Howard- A Beautiful Mind, Apollo 13, Parenthood > Robert Zemeckis: Forrest Gump, Cast Away no offense, but I'm really glad most of your choices didn't get the job.... Honestly, the best director for directing the HP films is Terry Gilliam! Come on, could there be a better choice than him? 100% no doubt! He's THE ONE whom JKR wants anyways! In fact, he came up with the whole "triple deck bus" thing WAY before JKR did! At then don't forget all those Monty Python-ish jokes in the HP series! Joan From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Jun 16 19:22:38 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:22:38 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies Message-ID: <84.1340454e.2c1f72fe@aol.com> In a message dated 6/16/2003 5:35:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > Honestly, the best director for directing the HP films is Terry > Gilliam! Come on, could there be a better choice than him? 100% no > doubt! He's THE ONE whom JKR wants anyways! In fact, he came up with > the whole "triple deck bus" thing WAY before JKR did! At then don't > forget all those Monty Python-ish jokes in the HP series! > > Joan > So if he's JKR's choice, why hasn't he gotten the job yet? What are some of his screen credits (sorry, I don't keep close track of directors, although I do recognize the work of Zemekis and Ron Howard and Rob Reiner and several other directors, having seen lots of their movies). Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Jun 16 19:39:28 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:39:28 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies Message-ID: <79.1367db7e.2c1f76f0@aol.com> In a message dated 6/16/2003 5:35:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > Honestly, the best director for directing the HP films is Terry > Gilliam! Come on, could there be a better choice than him? 100% no > doubt! He's THE ONE whom JKR wants anyways! In fact, he came up with > the whole "triple deck bus" thing WAY before JKR did! At then don't > forget all those Monty Python-ish jokes in the HP series! > > Joan > So if he's JKR's choice, why hasn't he gotten the job yet? What are some of his screen credits (sorry, I don't keep close track of directors, although I do recognize the work of Zemekis and Ron Howard and Rob Reiner and several other directors, having seen lots of their movies). Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tahewitt at yahoo.com Mon Jun 16 20:23:17 2003 From: tahewitt at yahoo.com (Tyler Hewitt) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: who should direct? In-Reply-To: <1055756036.202.14400.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20030616202317.16573.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Joan wrote: Honestly, the best director for directing the HP films is Terry Gilliam! Come on, could there be a better choice than him? 100% no doubt! He's THE ONE whom JKR wants anyways! In fact, he came up with the whole "triple deck bus" thing WAY before JKR did! At then don't forget all those Monty Python-ish jokes in the HP series! ME: I've said the same thing a few times already on this list, and of course I wholeheartedly agree. Gilliam would bring a sense of wonder and magic to the films that was kind of there in the first one, but pretty much absent from the second. A more curious choice, maybe, but Ang Lee could be intersting as a HP director. Everything he's done has been really interesting, and he seems capable of succeeding in any genre of film he works in. Tyler __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 16 21:02:40 2003 From: jjjwoolfolk at sbcglobal.net (Woolfolk) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:02:40 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies References: <84.1340454e.2c1f72fe@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EEE3070.1040008@sbcglobal.net> > So if he's JKR's choice, why hasn't he gotten the job yet? Not sure. Maybe she does not have final say. Or he was busy when the 1st Potter movie started filming. > What are some of > his screen credits (sorry, I don't keep close track of directors, > although I > do recognize the work of Zemekis and Ron Howard and Rob Reiner and > several > other directors, having seen lots of their movies). Well he, if I'm correct did all the animation on Monty Python and in the movies. He directed Holy Grail and Life of Brian 2 of our all time fav movies around here. Then here is his list of amazing and fantastical movies that he directed in addition to the Monty Python stuff. Some of them he wrote the screenplays for too. Jabberwoky Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Brazil Fisher King (what a wonderful movie) Twelve Monkeys The Adventures of Baron Munchausen Julie W (just a lurker, but a Gilliam fan) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dkewpie at pacbell.net Tue Jun 17 00:08:59 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:08:59 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies In-Reply-To: <84.1340454e.2c1f72fe@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote: > In a message dated 6/16/2003 5:35:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > So if he's JKR's choice, why hasn't he gotten the job yet? Because the movie studios hate him! Esp. if you know the history behind his film "Brazil" (long story). > What are some of his screen credits (sorry, I don't keep close track of directors, although I > do recognize the work of Zemekis and Ron Howard and Rob Reiner and several > other directors, having seen lots of their movies). He is one of the members of Monty Python (JKR is a huge fan of Monty Python btw) as well as an amazing animator who has unique and stylish personal style (he did all the animations in Monty Python). Most of the films are stylish and unique in terms of visual, such as classic fantasy/adventure films "Time Bandit", "Brazil" (my personal favorite), "Adventures of Baron Munchausen", as well as the Monty Python films "Monty Python and Holy Grail" and "Monty Python's The Meaning of Life". His more recent films include "12 Monkeys" and "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas". Anyone who's familiar with Terry Gilliam's works will know that his artistic vision, sense of humor and talent is perfect for the HP films. Like I said last time, Gilliam came up with the triple deck bus WAY back in early 80s! WAY ahead of JKR!! Not to mention any other crazy stuffs he came up with, they're far beyond many people's imaginations. Well, even though JKR couldn't get Terry Gilliam to direct the film, at least she got fellow Monty Python members John Cleese to be Nearly Headless Nick! Joan From doliesl at yahoo.com Tue Jun 17 00:12:24 2003 From: doliesl at yahoo.com (doliesl) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:12:24 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies In-Reply-To: <3EEE3070.1040008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > > So if he's JKR's choice, why hasn't he gotten the job yet? > Not sure. Maybe she does not have final say. Or he was busy when > the 1st Potter movie started filming. Of course JKR does not have final say. It was true that JKR wants Terry Gilliam, as she said so numerous times in interviews. But WB decided to play "safe" (TOO safe in my opinion). For those who're not familiar with Gilliam's history, he was a "controversial" figure who would rage battle against the corporation/Hollywood for keeping the intergrity of his works. He was the type of artist that Hollywood avoid to deal with. He's a great inspiration artist with extraordinary visions and imagination, but a pain-in-the-ass for Hollywood studio heads. He's also not the "mass-appeal" type of artist, not every average-joes can appreciate his "weirdness." Plus Hollywood always thought he's too "dark" for America, whatever... > Well he, if I'm correct did all the animation on Monty Python and e > movies. He directed Holy Grail and Life of Brian 2 of our all time > movies around here. Then here is his list of amazing and fantastical "Holy Grail" and "Life of Brian" are both my all time favorite movies too. JKR has mentioned before that she's a big fan of Monty Python, and how they have influenced her, It's no wonder she wanted Gilliam. > movies that he directed in addition to the Monty Python stuff. Some > Jabberwoky > Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas > Brazil > Fisher King (what a wonderful movie) > Twelve Monkeys > The Adventures of Baron Munchausen > Julie W (just a lurker, but a Gilliam fan) You've forgot "Time Bandit" too, an amazing family time-travel fantasy movie that's probably too "dark" for American kids. I've blown away by his animation works and love his sense of humor. I can remember his sketches of the "triple deck bus" from the "Brazil" book I have. When I read PoA, the "Knight bus' stood out immediately as, "wow, that's Gilliam's~~" -D From insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 17 03:06:56 2003 From: insanus_scottus at yahoo.co.uk (Scott) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 03:06:56 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree that Terry Gilliam would've been a good choice, but alas alas... Whoever said Emma Thompson for the screenplay was inspired, she would've been great. What about Richard Lester? I loved his earlier work and the things he did with the Beatles esp. "A Hard Day's Night" which is one of my favourite films. I would've LOVED to have seen what Harry Potter would've been like as a Merchant-Ivory production. Ruth Prawer Jhabvala could've done wonders with the script. Yep that's my pick, but I'm still excited to see what Cauron does with it, don't get me wrong. Scott From rvotaw at i-55.com Tue Jun 17 03:17:06 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:17:06 -0500 Subject: 2004 Movie calendar Message-ID: <02a001c3347e$eef98740$f7a2cdd1@RVotaw> Well, I picked up the 2004 HP movie wall calendar this past weekend. This one is Heroic moments from SS/PS and CoS. At least that's what it's called. A couple of them I thought were not so smart moments (yes, let's fly a car to Hogwart's, that's heroic), but all in all I like it. A brief run down of month by month (can you tell I'm killing time until Friday night?) This year instead of one big picture it's sort of a collage with a larger picture and two smaller related pictures. January--Harry Frees Dobby February--Harry Slays the Basilisk March--Battling the Mountain Troll April--Aragog May--Down the Trapdoor June--The Polyjuice Potion July--The Search for an Injured Unicorn August--The Whomping Willow September--The Rogue Bludger October--The Dueling Club November--Hermione vs. Draco December--Harry Defeats Tom Riddle And on the topic of calendars, for those of you who have the daily movie calendar for this year, I just loved the picture for this past weekend. The expression on Daniel/Harry's face was priceless. (It's one with the sword.) Oh, and on another note, while I was shopping this evening, I saw a woman in Wal-Mart who looked exactly like J.K. Rowling. I must be halucinating, and it's only Monday! Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From suzloua at hotmail.com Tue Jun 17 04:25:30 2003 From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:25:30 +0100 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? Message-ID: Great thread, Tamara, but I have to agree with Joan that some of your choices are a little eeshk. I mean, the genius who gave us the Pearl Harbour script? I've tried to watch that film twice now and both times had to give up because I couldn't listen to it anymore - and I've sat through Hope Springs, Glitter, and Cruel Intentions 2. And Akiva Goldsman? You can almost hear Joel Schumacher eyeing the director's chair... However, your choices of Emma Thompson and Frank Darabont are dead on. I've only ever seen S&S of Thompson's work (although, did she write Dead Again? I saw that some years ago) but Darabont especially is fantastic at adaptations of this scale. As you mentioned, he did Shawshank and The Green Mile - I don't know what the general world's consensus is of the Green Mile (I think it's FANTASTIC myself, but that might be just me) but Shawshank is number two on the IMDb's 250 movies of all time list (The Godfather is number one, if you're interested - GF part II is number 3.) Admittedly Stephen King came up with the stories both times, but like JKR, he has a rich and varied imagination, and like JKR, he has a *massive* following (King, not Darabont). Having read the books of both those films first, they, along with Bridget Jones, are among the few adaptations I think truly stand up to the book (and as wonderful as Richard Curtis is, I don't think I would have been as forgiving had Helen Fielding not been part of the script team too). As for directing, I've got to agree with Joan again - Terry Gilliam aaaaallllll the way. Sigh... we couldn't have a teeny independent studio make HP, could we... Damn you JKR!!! Damn you for selling to WB!!!! >From your list, I'd probably go with Zemeckis - God help me, I just love Back To The Future... Susan who is writing this after nearly 24hrs awake, so forgive me if the theme is less than coherant. who also caved to the pressure and finally pre-ordered OoP on Sunday night. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Help me Jebus!" --Homer Simpson "Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you!" --Ross Geller "Oh yeah, and did I mention I've got a baby?" --Stuart Alan Jones "You know, I telephoned my grandparents the other day, and my grandfather said to me, 'We saw your movie.' 'Which one?' I said, and he shouted, 'Betty, what was the name of that movie I didn't like?'" --Brad Pitt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 17 10:25:39 2003 From: buffyslays_uk at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Su?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:25:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 608 In-Reply-To: <1055756036.202.14400.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20030617102539.27213.qmail@web60006.mail.yahoo.com> My choices for screenwriting and directing. I think Alan Davies would have been fantastic as screen writer. He's already done a brilliant book to film adaptation of Pride and Predjudice (one of my all time favourite series) And for director - Ang Lee is the name that comes to my mind. He is good with the emotional films I don't know how he would cope with the humour though! (I'm sure very well...no one thought he could do Sense and Sensibility) --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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I odered mine through a Borders store, but I am sure Scholastic had Jim do this for all retial outlets. -------------------- gentlehunger at hotmail.com gentleHunger stuDios illusTration & desIgn "Timothy Dalton should get an Oscar and beat Sean Connery over the head with it!" ~Andrew; Buffy TVS _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Wed Jun 18 00:06:00 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Jim Dale called me ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030618000600.64769.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> That's very cool... Did you know that Jim Dale was recently named as a Member of the Order of British Empire (MBE), which is just a step down (please correct me if I'm wrong) from being knighted! Very cool! Lea :) "Misty R." wrote: Hey all - this is a book related heads up. Apparently I got a pre-recorded message that the book companies are sending out - it's Jim Dale telling you how & when to collect HP5 your reserved copy! Pretty cool - Except that I was at work when this happened, and my CAT (argh!) erased the message before I got home. Very upsetting. I'd really like to hear this in wav format if anyones got it yet online (since I missed it!), so a heads up would be much appreiciated! Thanks! Misty P.S. I odered mine through a Borders store, but I am sure Scholastic had Jim do this for all retial outlets. -------------------- gentlehunger at hotmail.com gentleHunger stuDios illusTration & desIgn "Timothy Dalton should get an Oscar and beat Sean Connery over the head with it!" ~Andrew; Buffy TVS _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Yahoo! 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Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com Wed Jun 18 01:06:33 2003 From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030618010633.77942.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Scott, in part: > Whoever said Emma Thompson for the > screenplay was inspired, she > would've been great. I so agree - but then, I would since I mentioned Emma Thompson back in February (priori postis 5423). I've since come up with another screenwriter who would also do a great job: William Goldman, who wrote the book "The Princess Bride" as well as the screenplay for the movie based on it. Tyler: > A more curious choice, maybe, but > Ang Lee could be intersting as a > HP director. Everything he's done > has been really interesting, and he > seems capable of succeeding in any > genre of film he works in. So if we get Thompson to adapt, Lee to direct, and Thompson to play a role, we could have Sense and Sensibility Redux...of sorts. After all, Alan Rickman (Colonel Brandon/Snape), Gemma Jones (Mrs. Dashwood/Madam Pomfrey), and Elizabeth Spriggs (Mrs. Jennings/Fat Lady) all already have both HP and S&S in common. BTW, I wonder what thoughts went through Ms. Thompson's mind when (if?) she watched that dueling scene between Branagh and Rickman...uhm...I meant Lockhart and Snape. Petra a n :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From jennivirides at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 17 19:07:11 2003 From: jennivirides at yahoo.co.uk (jennivirides) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:07:11 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies In-Reply-To: <3EEE3070.1040008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Woolfolk wrote: > Well he, if I'm correct did all the animation on Monty Python and in the > movies. He directed Holy Grail and Life of Brian 2 of our all time fav > movies around here. Sorry to be nit-picky, but he actually CO-directed Holy Grail with Terry Jones, another Python, and he was only a 'artistic designer' on Life of Brian, Terry Jones was the sole director for that project (mainly because having 2 directors for the Holy Grail was a HUGE disaster, they argued constantly and the film almost didn't get made). While we're on Pythons, why not Terry Jones? Did anyone see his Wind in the Willows? I know the critics didn't love it, but I thought it was very good. Heading off back to lurkerdom. Dessie, who highly recommends David Morgan's *Monty Python Speaks* to any Python fans. From LeeMunLim03 at aol.com Wed Jun 18 04:15:09 2003 From: LeeMunLim03 at aol.com (LeeMunLim03 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:15:09 EDT Subject: J.K Rowlings On Message-ID: <1db.c126e9b.2c21414d@aol.com> Just a remainder that J.K Rowlings will be on at 9 and its going to be on Dateline I believe! This coming friday. Headmaster Longbottom P.S Only 3 more days left !!!!!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From penumbra10 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 18 04:58:24 2003 From: penumbra10 at yahoo.com (Nia) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:58:24 -0000 Subject: Future HP film update from Reuters Message-ID: In this article from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2944479 there is every indication that the approximated release date for GoF has been set for November, 2005. Due to the length of the film, this would indicate that preproduction would have to start later this year and major filming perhaps shortly after to allow time for all the post-production CG work the film will need. Given the lengthy set-up time necessary for installing a new director, this timeframe would seem to suggest that Cuaron will also be directing GoF (unless they've chosen someone who they are keeping secret) and that the trio will probably be back for another round. Does anyone have a take on this? BTW, the incessant cautions about the trio growiwng out of their roles is becoming quite tiresome. --Nia From Mhochberg at aol.com Wed Jun 18 05:42:03 2003 From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:42:03 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Jim Dale called me ... Message-ID: <1e4.b5eb95a.2c2155ab@aol.com> If you don't have answering machine, you can hear the Jim Dale message from Borders. It also includes the Jim's reading of the segment that is also on Amazon.com. http://a676.g.akamaitech.net/f/676/773/90m/images.m0.net/cm50content/1043/090081018010f5ae/harry_potter.htm This was in my e-mail from Borders today. ---Mary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From grace701 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 18 19:27:59 2003 From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 19:27:59 -0000 Subject: PoA's lack of Quidditch re-visited Message-ID: I just wanted to say that although I understand that Quidditch isn't necessary for the movie. It still hurts me to see that they won't put it because I just finished re-reading the Quidditch Final when they won and I can just picture everything that is happening and I think it would have been a *GREAT* scene to depict on the big screen. I really wanted to see Oliver flying to Harry and start crying on his shoulder and for then the rest of the team to go to them and huddle. Beautiful moment. It actually almost made me cry. That's a true team! Greicy From illyana at mindspring.com Wed Jun 18 19:31:51 2003 From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:31:51 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA's lack of Quidditch re-visited In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <829EF9C5-A1C3-11D7-97E8-003065B8B954@mindspring.com> On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 12:27 , grace701 wrote: > I just wanted to say that although I understand that Quidditch isn't > necessary for the movie.? It still hurts me to see that they won't > put it because I just finished re-reading the Quidditch Final when > they won and I can just picture everything that is happening and I > think it would have been a *GREAT* scene to depict on the big > screen.? I really wanted to see Oliver flying to Harry and start > crying on his shoulder and for then the rest of the team to go to > them and huddle.? Beautiful moment.? It actually almost made me > cry.? That's a true team! > Umm... there *is* going to be Quidditch in the film! It's been mentioned several times by people working on the film (including Dan Radcliffe, I believe). illyana HPGCv1 a22 e+ x+* Rm Ri HP4 S+++ Mo++ HG+/VK++ HaP+/SS+++& FGW++ DM++& VC-- GG-- CD+ VK++ SS+++& PT--- AF-- MM++ RL++ O+m FAo F- Sl FHo SfD visit my livejournal! http://www.livejournal.com/users/illyanadmc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From siskiou at earthlink.net Wed Jun 18 19:33:08 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:33:08 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA's lack of Quidditch re-visited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5050575741.20030618123308@earthlink.net> Hi, Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 12:27:59 PM, grace701 at yahoo.com wrote: > I just wanted to say that although I understand that Quidditch isn't > necessary for the movie. It still hurts me to see that they won't > put it... But it's been reported many, many times on this list that there *will* be Quidditch! DR and others have confirmed it in interviews and I wonder why this rumor (no Quidditch) keeps coming up. AFAIK, Quidditch will be and exciting part in PoA. -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From SusanXG at hotmail.com Thu Jun 19 01:14:14 2003 From: SusanXG at hotmail.com (Susan XG) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:14:14 -0500 Subject: GoF and beyond Message-ID: Nia: "there is every indication that the approximated release date for GoF has been set for November, 2005. Due to the length of the film, this would indicate that preproduction would have to start later this year and major filming perhaps shortly after to allow time for all the post-production CG work the film will need. Given the lengthy set-up time necessary for installing a new director, this timeframe would seem to suggest that Cuaron will also be directing GoF (unless they've chosen someone who they are keeping secret) and that the trio will probably be back for another round. Does anyone have a take on this? BTW, the incessant cautions about the trio growiwng out of their roles is becoming quite tiresome." Here Here! I'm so sick of people saying that Daniel, Rupert, and Emma will be too old for their characters. They are the perfect age!!! Daniel's turning 14 in July, Emma just turned 13 in April, and Rupert will be 15 at the end of August. Most TV shows cast people in their mid-20s to play teens. This is NOT even the case. They are just around the ages of their characters. These three are identified around the WORLD as Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Why would they want to recast? They spent all this time looking for the perfect Harry Potter and they are just going to throw that all away because Daniel's growing up? Newsflash: Kids grow up! I don't understand why they don't get that. I think when they renegotiate their contracts, they should just sign on for the rest of the films. Say they decide to come back for GoF and OotP? Well, why not just come back for the last 2? Why spend all that time and money recasting? And what's all crap about not identifying with people who are older their their characters!?! They are playing a role! Not themselves. It shouldn't matter how old they are (special effects and makeup are around if needed). No wonder so many people keep their age secret. I read somewhere that said they are already in pre-production for GoF. Steve Kloves is already writing the script. They are going to have to start casting because they have MAJOR roles to fill: Viktor Krum, Fleur, Bill and Charlie (they might have already casted...I don't know), Madame Maxime, Karakaroff (sp?), Mad-Eye Moody, Mr. Crouch, Ludo Bagman, Cedric (since he's not in PoA), Cho Chang (she's not in PoA either), Barty Crouch, various Death Eaters, Dennis Creevy...(am I forgetting anyone else?). They better get their acts together....if GoF is two films...they could have two directors....and because each half of the book has a different feel they could have Chris Columbus do the first part and Alfonso Cuaron do the second half...or they could have someone entirely different in mind. I bet they know more then they are telling and they have to hush it all up because of contract negotiations. It's times like this I wish I was a producer or casting director or someone involved on Harry Potter because some of them need a reality check... Susan :o) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Thu Jun 19 02:41:24 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF and beyond In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030619024124.99990.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Susan, coudln't have said it better myself!! Lea :) Susan XG wrote: Nia: "there is every indication that the approximated release date for GoF has been set for November, 2005. Due to the length of the film, this would indicate that preproduction would have to start later this year and major filming perhaps shortly after to allow time for all the post-production CG work the film will need. Given the lengthy set-up time necessary for installing a new director, this timeframe would seem to suggest that Cuaron will also be directing GoF (unless they've chosen someone who they are keeping secret) and that the trio will probably be back for another round. Does anyone have a take on this? BTW, the incessant cautions about the trio growiwng out of their roles is becoming quite tiresome." Here Here! I'm so sick of people saying that Daniel, Rupert, and Emma will be too old for their characters. They are the perfect age!!! Daniel's turning 14 in July, Emma just turned 13 in April, and Rupert will be 15 at the end of August. Most TV shows cast people in their mid-20s to play teens. This is NOT even the case. They are just around the ages of their characters. These three are identified around the WORLD as Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Why would they want to recast? They spent all this time looking for the perfect Harry Potter and they are just going to throw that all away because Daniel's growing up? Newsflash: Kids grow up! I don't understand why they don't get that. I think when they renegotiate their contracts, they should just sign on for the rest of the films. Say they decide to come back for GoF and OotP? Well, why not just come back for the last 2? Why spend all that time and money recasting? And what's all crap about not identifying with people who are older their their characters!?! They are playing a role! Not themselves. It shouldn't matter how old they are (special effects and makeup are around if needed). No wonder so many people keep their age secret. I read somewhere that said they are already in pre-production for GoF. Steve Kloves is already writing the script. They are going to have to start casting because they have MAJOR roles to fill: Viktor Krum, Fleur, Bill and Charlie (they might have already casted...I don't know), Madame Maxime, Karakaroff (sp?), Mad-Eye Moody, Mr. Crouch, Ludo Bagman, Cedric (since he's not in PoA), Cho Chang (she's not in PoA either), Barty Crouch, various Death Eaters, Dennis Creevy...(am I forgetting anyone else?). They better get their acts together....if GoF is two films...they could have two directors....and because each half of the book has a different feel they could have Chris Columbus do the first part and Alfonso Cuaron do the second half...or they could have someone entirely different in mind. I bet they know more then they are telling and they have to hush it all up because of contract negotiations. It's times like this I wish I was a producer or casting director or someone involved on Harry Potter because some of them need a reality check... Susan :o) --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From d_lea25 at yahoo.ca Thu Jun 19 02:41:32 2003 From: d_lea25 at yahoo.ca (Lea) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF and beyond In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030619024132.28532.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Susan, coudln't have said it better myself!! Lea :) Susan XG wrote: Nia: "there is every indication that the approximated release date for GoF has been set for November, 2005. Due to the length of the film, this would indicate that preproduction would have to start later this year and major filming perhaps shortly after to allow time for all the post-production CG work the film will need. Given the lengthy set-up time necessary for installing a new director, this timeframe would seem to suggest that Cuaron will also be directing GoF (unless they've chosen someone who they are keeping secret) and that the trio will probably be back for another round. Does anyone have a take on this? BTW, the incessant cautions about the trio growiwng out of their roles is becoming quite tiresome." Here Here! I'm so sick of people saying that Daniel, Rupert, and Emma will be too old for their characters. They are the perfect age!!! Daniel's turning 14 in July, Emma just turned 13 in April, and Rupert will be 15 at the end of August. Most TV shows cast people in their mid-20s to play teens. This is NOT even the case. They are just around the ages of their characters. These three are identified around the WORLD as Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Why would they want to recast? They spent all this time looking for the perfect Harry Potter and they are just going to throw that all away because Daniel's growing up? Newsflash: Kids grow up! I don't understand why they don't get that. I think when they renegotiate their contracts, they should just sign on for the rest of the films. Say they decide to come back for GoF and OotP? Well, why not just come back for the last 2? Why spend all that time and money recasting? And what's all crap about not identifying with people who are older their their characters!?! They are playing a role! Not themselves. It shouldn't matter how old they are (special effects and makeup are around if needed). No wonder so many people keep their age secret. I read somewhere that said they are already in pre-production for GoF. Steve Kloves is already writing the script. They are going to have to start casting because they have MAJOR roles to fill: Viktor Krum, Fleur, Bill and Charlie (they might have already casted...I don't know), Madame Maxime, Karakaroff (sp?), Mad-Eye Moody, Mr. Crouch, Ludo Bagman, Cedric (since he's not in PoA), Cho Chang (she's not in PoA either), Barty Crouch, various Death Eaters, Dennis Creevy...(am I forgetting anyone else?). They better get their acts together....if GoF is two films...they could have two directors....and because each half of the book has a different feel they could have Chris Columbus do the first part and Alfonso Cuaron do the second half...or they could have someone entirely different in mind. I bet they know more then they are telling and they have to hush it all up because of contract negotiations. It's times like this I wish I was a producer or casting director or someone involved on Harry Potter because some of them need a reality check... Susan :o) --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From suzloua at hotmail.com Thu Jun 19 04:05:55 2003 From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 05:05:55 +0100 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? Message-ID: Petra Pan commented: BTW, I wonder what thoughts went through Ms. Thompson's mind when (if?) she watched that dueling scene between Branagh and Rickman...uhm...I meant Lockhart and Snape. I know this is a bit OT, but am I being really dense here? I know she used to be married to Branagh - does she have history with Rickman too? ~drools slightly~ mmmmm. History with Rickman.... The S&S/HP connection is bizarre, kind of like HP/David Copperfield. But then, it seems like there's only ten good actors in England and the rest is done with mirrors, so no wonder they keep popping up over and over :D Susan who is looking forward to the JKR Paxman interview tonight, and almost can't believe OoP is nearly here - surely it's a joke?! ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Help me Jebus!" --Homer Simpson "Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you!" --Ross Geller "Oh yeah, and did I mention I've got a baby?" --Stuart Alan Jones "You know, I telephoned my grandparents the other day, and my grandfather said to me, 'We saw your movie.' 'Which one?' I said, and he shouted, 'Betty, what was the name of that movie I didn't like?'" --Brad Pitt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From buffyeton at yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 06:37:07 2003 From: buffyeton at yahoo.com (Tamara) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:37:07 -0000 Subject: Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Atherton" wrote: > Great thread, Tamara, but I have to agree with Joan that some of your choices are a little eeshk. I mean, the genius who gave us the Pearl Harbour script? I've tried to watch that film twice now and both times had to give up because I couldn't listen to it anymore - and I've sat through Hope Springs, Glitter, and Cruel Intentions 2. And Akiva Goldsman? You can almost hear Joel Schumacher eyeing the director's chair... > > However, your choices of Emma Thompson and Frank Darabont are dead on. I've only ever seen S&S of Thompson's work (although, did she write Dead Again? I saw that some years ago) but Darabont especially is fantastic at adaptations of this scale. As you mentioned, he did Shawshank and The Green Mile - I don't know what the general world's consensus is of the Green Mile (I think it's FANTASTIC myself, but that might be just me) but Shawshank is number two on the IMDb's 250 movies of all time list (The Godfather is number one, if you're interested - GF part II is number 3.) Admittedly Stephen King came up with the stories both times, but like JKR, he has a rich and varied imagination, and like JKR, he has a *massive* following (King, not Darabont). Having read the books of both those films first, they, along with Bridget Jones, are among the few adaptations I think truly stand up to the book (and as wonderful as Richard Curtis is, I don't think I would have been as forgiving had Helen Fielding not been part of the script team too). > > As for directing, I've got to agree with Joan again - Terry Gilliam aaaaallllll the way. Sigh... we couldn't have a teeny independent studio make HP, could we... Damn you JKR!!! Damn you for selling to WB!!!! > > From your list, I'd probably go with Zemeckis - God help me, I just love Back To The Future... > > Susan > Thank you Susan, I try to come up with interesting topics. Note TRY being the opperative word lol. It makes me wonder though, what is more important in a movie, a good movie that is: director or screenplay writer? I mean, as for HP, I don't think they chose well on either. The screenplay lacked every bit of wit and charm that the books have, and the direction was horribly cheesy and too geared towards 7 year olds who wouldn't care about the plot but just wanted to see flying brooms and such. As for my choices, why not Randall Wallace, he might have given us Pearl Harbor, but he also gave us Braveheart! And I was going for writers who have written on a large scale, or who have successfully, at least in my view, adapted a popular novel. If it were TOTALLY up to me, which, God, I wish it was, I would have chosen Joss Whedon to write the screenplay and Alan Parker to direct. That would be my dream team. That is of course excluding me writing the screenplay lol which would have been my real first choice. Tamara Who is not sure to be more excited about OoP coming out or Prince William's bday party on the 21st. From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 07:32:12 2003 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 07:32:12 -0000 Subject: GoF and beyond In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan XG" wrote: > > Nia: > > ...edited... > > ... I'm so sick of people saying that Daniel, Rupert, and Emma will > be too old for their characters. They are the perfect age!!! > > ...edited... > > Most TV shows cast people in their mid-20s to play teens. > > ...edited... > I think when they renegotiate their contracts, they should just sign > on for the rest of the films. > > Susan :o) bboy_mn: These are great kids, and our primary concern should be for their well being not for our entertainment. A three main characters/actors seem to enjoy what they are doing, but at the same time, they are at a critical stage in their education. Dan and Rupert have standardized test coming up, and how well they do on those will effect if and which university they will be able to get into. Also, their parents, especially Dan parents, appear to want their kids to live as normal a life as possible. But show business and fans are very fickle. The teen heartthrobs of today, are the ashes in the dustbin of tommorrow, and that can be very devistating to a kid. It has to be very psychologically tramatic to go from being adored and loved buy the entire world to being totally forgotten. That makes entertainment a very dangerous business. When was the last time you hear anything about Devon Sawa, or JTT. How about Edward Furlong (Terminator 2) or Fred Savage (The Wonder Years) or Joseph Gordon-Levitt (3rd Rock) who gave an outstanding dramatic performance in the movie 'Sweet Jane'; REALLY OUTSTANDING? How about Wil Wheaton (Star Trek, Stand By Me) who has 43 movie and TV credits, and 23 notable TV guest appearances, and has worked with such notable actors as Richard Dryfus. I saw Lucas Haas from the movie 'Witness' with Harrison Ford, on the 'Twilight Zone' tonight, he's an amazing dramatic actor who has made 23 movies and has appeared on 10 TV shows, but when was the last time you heard anything about him? I'll take new actors anytime over screwing up the lives of these kids for my entertainment pleasure. For the record, I want them to do it. I would love to see them in all the movies. I would also like to see Dan and Rupurt involved in other areas of entertainment. I'd like to see Rupurt in a different movie. I'd like to read some more of Dan's writing. On a different subject, I think they are getting screwed on their salaries. I think they should do some serious negotiating before they sign up for movies 4 and above. Frankie Muniz (Malcom in the Middle, Agent Cody Banks) recieve US$5,000,000 for the first Cody Banks movie which grossed US$45,000,000 in US distribution, and another Cody Banks movie is being shot right now. That's another US$5,000,000 in the bank. Dan got US$2,000,000 for Chamber of Secrets which grossed about US$800,000,000, and he only got that because the British Actors Equity Union step in on his behalf. I don't think the kids should be in it for the money, or more importantly, they shouldn't be concerned about money, but I also think that Warner Brothers owes them a fair share. Just a few thoughts. bboy_mn From grace701 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 19 14:28:40 2003 From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:28:40 -0000 Subject: PoA's lack of Quidditch re-visited In-Reply-To: <5050575741.20030618123308@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Oops! I'm sorry you guys. I have been up on much of the Movie news. Therefore I didn't know that they aren't actually cutting it out. Forgive me. But I still don't think the scene will depict the emotions in the book. :( Greicy From artsylynda at aol.com Thu Jun 19 14:30:39 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:30:39 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF and beyond Message-ID: <1e2.b865adb.2c23230f@aol.com> Susan: > Most TV shows cast people in their mid-20s to play teens. This is NOT even > the case. They are just around the ages of their characters. These three are > > identified around the WORLD as Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Why would they want > > to recast? They spent all this time looking for the perfect Harry Potter and > > they are just going to throw that all away because Daniel's growing up? > Newsflash: Kids grow up! I don't understand why they don't get that. > > I agree completely. However, I just read an article (sorry, I don't remember which one) that said the producers were worried they'd lose their "core audience" (little kids) if they had the actors being too old in their parts. I've also read there are fears that the books getting darker will lose that "core audience." HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!! There's a HUGE "core audience" of adults, college students, teens -- and the kids reading it now will still want to see the movies! AND they'll want to see Harry the age he's supposed to be, not a little kid. I do not understand where these people's heads are, but those articles did give me a glimpse into the lamebrained thinking behind these rumors. Let's sick some Boggarts on some of these folks (they don't deserve Dementors, but certainly SOMETHING scary!!) heehee Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Thu Jun 19 14:36:19 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:36:19 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF and beyond Message-ID: <19c.1661c6fa.2c232463@aol.com> In a message dated 6/19/2003 4:42:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > Frankie Muniz (Malcom in the Middle, > Agent Cody Banks) recieve US$5,000,000 for the first Cody Banks movie > which grossed US$45,000,000 in US distribution, and another Cody Banks > movie is being shot right now. That's another US$5,000,000 in the > bank. Dan got US$2,000,000 for Chamber of Secrets which grossed about > US$800,000,000, and he only got that because the British Actors Equity > Union step in on his behalf. > > I don't think the kids should be in it for the money, or more > importantly, they shouldn't be concerned about money, but I also think > that Warner Brothers owes them a fair share Yup, I agree. But Frankie Munoz had a strong fan following before making that movie (he's starred in a TV series for several years now) so he had some "clout," where Daniel had only done a few things before HP hit his life. I think the next several movies should see him getting significant pay raises. Who knows if he'll ever get any other parts (although he's a wonderful actor, the "movie machine" does chew up and spit out actors on a regular basis, always looking for what's "new," daggone it -- I'd prefer to see more of my old favorites more often!). I imagine the union will fight for him to get a better deal, maybe even a cut of the profits (he certainly deserves it!). He should be getting a cut of the licensed products with his image on them, as well. Is that happening? I don't have any idea. Lynda * * * "Don't let the Muggles get you down." Ron Weasley PoA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From timregan at microsoft.com Thu Jun 19 22:06:16 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:06:16 -0000 Subject: What you WON'T read in OoP Message-ID: Hi All, Thread copied from the main list so I can add movie related quips ... --- In HPforGrownups jgabriel66 wrote: > I've cleaned up the list, and added everything so far... > > 1. From Hagrid : " Now Harry, I'm supposed to tell you this > secret....." > 124. Neville to Draco: "Suffer, Ferret-boy." adding ... 125. McGonagall: "Class, please sit down while I finish the mirror writing on the second blackboard". 126. Hermione: "Good point Ron and well said Professor Dumbledore. Do you mind if I say those lines in the film?" Cheers, Dumbledad. From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 03:20:54 2003 From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rickman, Branagh, and Thompson (was) Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030620032054.52099.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Yours truly: > BTW, I wonder what thoughts went through > Ms. Thompson's mind when (if?) she > watched that dueling scene between > Branagh and Rickman...uhm...I meant > Lockhart and Snape. Susan Atherton: > I know this is a bit OT, but am I > being really dense here? I know she > used to be married to Branagh - does > she have history with Rickman too? > ~drools slightly~ mmmmm. History with > Rickman.... I don't KNOW - I just heard rumors... ...but... ...they'd make a great couple with lovely kids, don't you think? Surely someone out there knows and can tell us? To make this less OT: Really hate to SHIP...but...if R/H comes to pass, the relationship between Beatrice and Benedick (esp. as played by Branagh and Thompson in his MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING) would be a terrific model for how the relationship between Hermione and Ron should be played. Petra a n :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From editor at texas.net Fri Jun 20 05:52:37 2003 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:52:37 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rickman, Branagh, and Thompson (was) Who SHOULD have written and directed the movies? References: <20030620032054.52099.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c336f0$27bc2b00$4604a6d8@texas.net> > Susan Atherton: > > I know this is a bit OT, but am I > > being really dense here? I know she > > used to be married to Branagh - does > > she have history with Rickman too? > > ~drools slightly~ mmmmm. History with > > Rickman.... Petra: > > I don't KNOW - I just heard rumors... Me: They were just that. Alan Rickman has been in a stable monogamous relationship for the past 30 years. He and Emma Thompson are very good friends and work together well, but that's it. Sorry to disappoint you. ~Amanda From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 07:05:30 2003 From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rickman, Branagh, and Thompson In-Reply-To: <003a01c336f0$27bc2b00$4604a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: <20030620070530.56675.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Susan Atherton: > I know this is a bit OT, but am I > being really dense here? I know she > used to be married to Branagh - does > she have history with Rickman too? > ~drools slightly~ mmmmm. History with > Rickman.... Petra: > I don't KNOW - I just heard rumors... Amanda: > They were just that. Alan Rickman > has been in a stable monogamous > relationship for the past 30 years. > He and Emma Thompson are very good > friends and work together well, but > that's it. Sorry to disappoint you. Ah ha! Rather suspect SOMEone on this list would have this info...and imagine that - it's Amanda! So who's the lucky person? Petra a n :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 09:09:04 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:09:04 -0000 Subject: Ready for the book release! (was: yayyy! school sweaters from movie) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks filmgeek20! I looked up the site you mentioned and bought a sweater for my son (Gryffindor) and he is now going to be fully outfitted for the book release tomorrow! I'll take pictures and post them on Saturday. He's got his Black Gryffindor cloak and glasses (both from Marks & Spencer, U.K.); his wand and scarf (both from alivans.com), white shirt & gray slacks (from local thrift store); Gryffindor sweater (wizarduniform.com); Gryffindor tie (from eBay.com); and his new racing broom, The Scarlet Hawk (from alivans.com). I'm getting him some black shoes and temporary black hair color on Friday. I've already practiced drawing a lightning shaped scar on his forehead with my eyebrow pencil - we're ready! LOL I'm wearing one of my five Harry Potter shirts which I bought on eBay. I haven't picked which one yet. I'm not sure who is more excited - me or my son. LOL Diana L. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "filmgeek20" wrote: > Alas...my search has come to an end! I don't know about all of you, > but next week I'll be wearing a Slytherin costume to Barnes and > Noble! ;D wizarduniforms.com finally opened! Did anyone else order > one? From elfundeb at comcast.net Fri Jun 20 14:57:42 2003 From: elfundeb at comcast.net (elfundeb2) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:57:42 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Nimbus Fundraiser Results and Thank You Message-ID: Greetings! -- "'Harry," said George weakly, weighing the money bag in his hands, "there's got to be a thousand Galleons in here.' 'Yeah,' said Harry, grinning. 'Think how many Canary Creams that is.'" -- The HPFGU fundraising drive for Nimbus - 2003 is finally complete, and we're happy to report that, through your generous contributions, the drive raised a whole bagful of galleons for Nimbus -- equal to 1700 U.S. dollars! We raise our goblets to all of you who contributed in HPFGU's name. Your support puts HPFGU in the top tier of contributors among fandom groups, and will enable HPFGU to become a sponsor of the Welcome Feast (alas, it won't feature Canary Creams), plus seven of the formal programming sessions. Once again, thank you to all of you for your generous support. You are all tremendous. The HPFGU Admin Team It's not too late to register! For more information about Nimbus - 2003, go to www.hp2003.org . From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Fri Jun 20 19:31:27 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:31:27 +0100 Subject: John Williams Message-ID: Hope you don't mind me resurrecting past threads; it's been a chaotic couple of weeks and I am just reading some of them for the first time. Wendy said:- >I have been a huge fan of John Williams for over 20 years. I have >noticed how his scores now are sounding very familiar. eg play the >main track of Harry Potter, then play the main track to "Home Alone". >Methinks I hear a very familiar sounding "young boy" theme. > Interesting. Yes, listening to the CoS CD, I kept thinking that I was listening to the 'Home Alone' soundtrack. (The kids love that movie and watch it over and over, so I'm perhaps more familiar with it than I would like). The similarity between the two put me right off the CoS soundtrack; the only thing I listen to on it now is 'Fawkes's theme'. Most modern filmscore composers have certain features to all of their compositions which make them recognisable. It's a form of self-advertising. Before the release of the PS/SS movie, and in the days when I, as a huge fan of the books, had no intention of seeing the movie, I heard the PS/SS theme on the radio, without having heard the announcement of what it was. It caught my attention though. My first thought was 'John Williams wrote this'. My second thought; 'Oh, I bet it's the theme to the new HP movie'. That's how recognisable he is. Taryn said:- >I recall hearing that for Patrick Doyle's incredible first movie score for >Henry V, he was actually present for shooting to grasp as much of the mood >and theme as possible. (Not sure about his subsequent work on Branagh >films) I loved that score. I believe that Doyle was actually in the movie, not just on set; he was the soldier who sang the awesome 'Non nobis, Domine' at the end. Regards, Nicholas From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Fri Jun 20 19:31:30 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:31:30 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF and beyond Message-ID: Lynda said:- >I agree completely. However, I just read an article (sorry, I don't >remember
>which one) that said the producers were worried they'd lose their >"core
>audience" (little kids) if they had the actors being too old in their >parts. I've
>also read there are fears that the books getting darker will lose that >"core
>audience." HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!! There's a HUGE "core >audience" of adults,
>college students, teens -- and the kids reading it now will still want to >see the
>movies! AND they'll want to see Harry the age he's supposed to be, >not a little
>kid. I do not understand where these people's heads are, but those >articles
>did give me a glimpse into the lamebrained thinking behind these rumors. Perhaps the lame brains belong to the journalists who write this trash. Regards, Nicholas From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Fri Jun 20 19:31:28 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:31:28 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: GoF and beyond Message-ID: Steve said:- >I don't think the kids should be in it for the money, or more >importantly, they shouldn't be concerned about money, but I also think >that Warner Brothers owes them a fair share. Early last year, there was either an actors' strike or the threat of an actors' strike in Britain. The point of contention was that the actors wanted a share in the profits of the films they were making. I didn't really hear how it all worked out, but I do remember hearing that the one film whose production was unaffected was CoS, because the actors in it *had already been given a share of the profits* as part of their contracts. Does anyone know more about this? If I were an agent for the trio, a good basic salary would be important, but I would be pushing for a profit-share as well. If they don't already have it. And about the kids' education, especially DR's; it is quite possible that he has already decided that he wants to pursue a career in film, either in front of or behind the cameras. That being the case, as long as his exam results are respectable (and, to be frank, with private tuition for most of his education at the moment, he has a better chance of achieving this than in a large schoolclass), continuing in the role of HP will help rather than hinder his career; he is acquiring hands-on experience of filmmaking, and building a network of friends amongst the finest British actors (and I think that there are a few more than 10, btw). That can only help with his chosen career. If I were his parent, my main concerns would be the social issues; in being away from school, DR is being deprived of the normal socialising of school life. Regards, Nicholas From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 20 20:26:45 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:26:45 -0000 Subject: Too cute Message-ID: Newsweek magazine has an interview with Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz and Lucy Liu concerning the new Charlie's Angels movie. Here's one Q&A I had to share: Newsweek: Cameron, the boy who plays Harry Potter, Daniel Radcliffe, recently said that you're his celebrity crush. Barrymore, Diaz AND Liu: Awwwwwwwww. N: Does he have a shot? CD: He's 14! DB: It's illegal. CD: Exactly. LL: Therefore, yes. CD: You know, I have a way with 14-year-old boys. DB: Being one myself, yes, you do. *** LOL. I wonder what Dan will think when he reads this? Anne U (who expects him to blush profusely a la Cho-smitten!Harry) From manda at qx.net Sat Jun 21 01:25:13 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:25:13 -0700 Subject: Harry Potter Idol Message-ID: <3EF35189.32278.2FF049@localhost> This is rather lame, but I'll post it anyway. A columnist at the Lexington Herald Leader made a tongue-in-cheek list of future movies for the "American Idol" contestants to star in: "Daniel Radcliffe is getting too old for Harry Potter, right? Clay Aiken could fill in next time. "'Harry Potter and the Graduate Assistantship from Hell.' In the film version of the yet-to-be-written sixth Harry Potter book, Aiken plays an adult Harry, now in grad school and imprisoned by a dastardly spell that compels him to break into show tunes every time he sees a Muggle." Like I said, lame. :-( Also, yesterday the Herald Leader had an article about an ill local boy who will get to visit the HP3 movie set thanks to the Lexington Dream Factory: http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/6129887.htm Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From CLShannon at aol.com Sat Jun 21 06:16:58 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:16:58 EDT Subject: Dateline Message-ID: <123.2307ccca.2c25525a@aol.com> Did anyone else hear Katie Couric say at the end of the segment on JKR and her interview that POA just finished filming in Scotland? It sounded like she meant it was finished filming entirely, since the rest of the statement was something like, 'for release in the summer of 2004'. I guess she could have meant that they finished filming 'in Scotland' and still had some filming to do back in the UK. But if they are done with principal photography, that means there is a whole year for post-production - hmm, seems a bit long for that ;-) Cindy From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Sat Jun 21 08:53:31 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 03:53:31 -0500 Subject: Semi-OT - request for anyone who has the book In-Reply-To: <20030620070530.56675.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <003a01c336f0$27bc2b00$4604a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030621035127.00bb75f0@mail.kriselda.net> First off: WHATEVER YOU DO, *****PLEASE***** DO NOT ANSWER THIS ON LIST!!!!!! I am not someone who deals with suspense and surprise real well. I'm waiting for my copy of OotP to get here, and wanted to ask if someone who had already read far enough in the book to find out who dies would be willing to, could you send me a PRIVATE email at mailto:thorswitch at thunderhaven.net and let me know who it is? I'll do much better reading the book if I know that up front :) Thanks!!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From htfulcher at comcast.net Sat Jun 21 11:41:29 2003 From: htfulcher at comcast.net (marephraim) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:41:29 -0000 Subject: Dateline In-Reply-To: <123.2307ccca.2c25525a@aol.com> Message-ID: Cindy wrote: > Did anyone else hear Katie Couric say . . . that POA just finished filming in Scotland? It sounded like she > meant it was finished filming entirely, since the rest of the statement was > something like, 'for release in the summer of 2004'. I suspect she meant (or misunderstood the indication of what she had been told) that location filming has been completed in Scotland. That outdoor locale shooting has been finished does not necessarily imply that indoor shooting has even begun (although I do seem to remember that some indoor filming of non-principle characters -- i.e., not the Trio -- has been taking place in a studio in London). MarEphraim From htfulcher at comcast.net Sat Jun 21 11:44:59 2003 From: htfulcher at comcast.net (marephraim) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:44:59 -0000 Subject: GoF and beyond In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Steve" bboy_mn wrote: > > On a different subject, I think they are getting screwed on their > salaries. I think they should do some serious negotiating before they > sign up for movies 4 and above. Maybe that's the reason for the 'hesitation' to answer the questions about whether they'll be in the other movies. So also, Coltrain's dodging questions about his own continued involvment. M E From aarbrooks at yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 14:05:36 2003 From: aarbrooks at yahoo.com (aarbrooks) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:05:36 -0000 Subject: Ready for the book release! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Diana" wrote: > Thanks filmgeek20! I looked up the site you mentioned and bought a > sweater for my son (Gryffindor) and he is now going to be fully > outfitted for the book release tomorrow! I'll take pictures and > post them on Saturday. > > He's got his Black Gryffindor cloak and glasses (both from Marks & > Spencer, U.K.); his wand and scarf (both from alivans.com), white > shirt & gray slacks (from local thrift store); Gryffindor sweater > (wizarduniform.com); Gryffindor tie (from eBay.com); and his new > racing broom, The Scarlet Hawk (from alivans.com). Hi Diana, I hadn't heard of wizarduniform.com before, and wanted to check it out, but when I type in the URL, it cannot be found. I so really want to see that site! Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? Regards, Adrienne --Sitting at the front door, drooling, waiting for my FedEx man from Amazon!!!-- From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Sat Jun 21 20:10:09 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Ready for the book release! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030621201009.52762.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> Adrienne: <<>> Odile (that would be me): Go here: http://www.wizarduniforms.com I see that you have "...uniform" when it should be plural. Hope you're not disappointed! ^_^ From rvotaw at i-55.com Sun Jun 22 02:38:27 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 21:38:27 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dateline References: <123.2307ccca.2c25525a@aol.com> Message-ID: <015b01c33867$5ce4c7b0$039fcdd1@RVotaw> Cindy wrote: > Did anyone else hear Katie Couric say at the end of the segment on JKR and > her interview that POA just finished filming in Scotland? It sounded like she > meant it was finished filming entirely, since the rest of the statement was > something like, 'for release in the summer of 2004'. I guess she could have > meant that they finished filming 'in Scotland' and still had some filming to do > back in the UK. She meant they were finished what there was to be filmed in Scotland. They still have a great deal of filming to do back at the studio. That was the schedule all along, to be finished in Scotland by the end of June at the lastest. So it sounds like they are on schedule, that much is good! Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Sun Jun 22 10:23:59 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 05:23:59 -0500 Subject: Semi OT: Request for book death info filled - NO SPOILER HERE In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030621035127.00bb75f0@mail.kriselda.net> References: <20030620070530.56675.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c336f0$27bc2b00$4604a6d8@texas.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030622052147.00ba2a30@mail.kriselda.net> I just wanted to thank each of you who wrote to answer my question about who dies in the book. I apprecate it a great deal! I can't wait for my copy to get here :) I hope everyone who's reading it right now is enjoying ever bit as much as we all hoped to - I've heard a lot of good things and am getting really excited about it! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From aarbrooks at yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 12:22:53 2003 From: aarbrooks at yahoo.com (aarbrooks) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:22:53 -0000 Subject: Ready for the book release! In-Reply-To: <20030621201009.52762.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Odile Falaise wrote: > Go here: http://www.wizarduniforms.com > > I see that you have "...uniform" when it should be > plural. Hope you're not disappointed! ^_^ me (Adrienne): Ahh, that makes quite a difference, thanks! I'm definitely not disappointed . . . the sweaters are gorgeous! Regards, Adrienne From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Sun Jun 22 21:15:07 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:15:07 -0000 Subject: Ready for the book release! In-Reply-To: <20030621201009.52762.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Odile, for correcting my URL on www.wizarduniforms.com. I didn't even realize I'd forgotten the 's'. Sorry about that! Diana L. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Odile Falaise wrote: > Adrienne: > > << wanted to check it out, but when I type in the URL, it > cannot be found. I so really want to see that site! > Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?>>> > > Odile (that would be me): > Go here: http://www.wizarduniforms.com > > I see that you have "...uniform" when it should be > plural. Hope you're not disappointed! ^_^ From wendy.moncur at nre.vic.gov.au Sun Jun 22 21:59:29 2003 From: wendy.moncur at nre.vic.gov.au (Wendy Moncur) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:59:29 -0000 Subject: John Williams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oooh, I 'm glad someone else can "hear-and-know" aswell. :) Just goes to show you how powerful music can be. Do you watch Star Trek? We music "hearers" know the Klingons or the Borg are coming before anyone else does. Cheers! Wendy. From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com Mon Jun 23 04:26:40 2003 From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:26:40 -0000 Subject: REMINDER: Vote in the 2003 Pickled Toad Awards at HPfGU-OT Chatter Message-ID: When you all have finished reading (and re-reading) OoP, please do not forget to vote in the polls at HPfGU-OT Chatter for the best filks of the year! The polls close at the end of the month. The Pickled Toadies will be awarded at Nimbus 2003. We all will make filking history! -Haggridd From susannahlm at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 02:27:14 2003 From: susannahlm at yahoo.com (derannimer) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 02:27:14 -0000 Subject: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. Message-ID: A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable of playing OoP's Harry? Derannimer From WFeuchter at msn.com Tue Jun 24 03:12:46 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 03:12:46 -0000 Subject: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" wrote: > A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person > here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That > there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna > be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? > > > > Derannimer Can they make a movie of course. Will it follow the book maybe. It would have to be more than one movie most likely. We will have to see how they handle GOF. Can Dan play Book 5 Harry. He sure can! Bill From jmmears at comcast.net Tue Jun 24 03:14:58 2003 From: jmmears at comcast.net (serenadust) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 03:14:58 -0000 Subject: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" wrote: > A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person > here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That > there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna > be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? It's interesting that you've said this since I said virtually the same thing to my sister this morning when she asked me if I thought OoP would work as a movie. I do love DR, really, and I hope to see him grow as an actor under A. Cuaron's direction, so I'm not prepared to totally write him off. That said, all three kids playing the trio will really have to rise well above their present performances to pull this one off. At the moment though, I'm not optimistic. I'm even more pessimistic about the screenplay, however. Do we have to have Kloves forever? Doesn't he want to do something *else*? Jo S., who is glad Derannimer said it first, but still feels guilty for thinking these thoughts From geri510 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 03:19:33 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 03:19:33 -0000 Subject: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" wrote: > A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person > here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That > there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna > be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? > > > > Derannimer Me: I definitely say they can make a movie out of OotP, I don't think the people who are currently in the movie will play the parts of the charactors from the pensive, I also think that making a movie out of this book will be much easier than GoF & that Dan can certainly play an angst Harry - just don't know if he will be around playing him by the time this film will be made. G From rvotaw at i-55.com Tue Jun 24 03:25:43 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:25:43 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. References: Message-ID: <001701c33a00$4c357a50$80a1cdd1@RVotaw> Derannimer wrote: > A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person > here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That > there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna > be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? I do think a lot of OoP will have to be left out, but I'm sure they can manage. Already there is a new director for the third film, and Chris Columbus has said he's not going to do the fourth either, it'll be too soon. I think they can manage just fine. As for Daniel Radcliffe, I have no doubt in my mind that he can handle OoP Harry just fine. Have you actually watched SS/PS and CoS back to back? It's like daylight and dark. I had never noticed how lines, expressions, etc in SS/PS were forced until I saw CoS. He has and continues to improve himself, and shoudl he choose to do so he will make a fine OoP Harry. No question about it, in my book. The only question I have is whether or not he'll want to continue rather than go on with schooling or whatever. Oh, one interesting thing happened as I began rereading OoP. For the first time, while reading HP, Daniel Radcliffe's voice popped in my head for Harry. Never happened before. Richelle From CLShannon at aol.com Tue Jun 24 04:02:35 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:02:35 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. Message-ID: <159.2019de7b.2c29275b@aol.com> In a message dated 6/23/03 8:24:53 PM, WFeuchter at msn.com writes: << Can Dan play Book 5 Harry. He sure can! >> I agree, he will be older and more experienced and I certainly think he has the talent. On a related note, I couldn't help thinking as I was reading the book about the actors' reactions while 'they' were reading it ;-) I know it sounds silly, but I can imagine the kid who plays Neville saying, 'wow, my part is huge in this!' ;-) Not that there is any guarantee that all of the roles will be played by the same people by the time OOTP gets made into a movie, but still, one can hope. I would love to see everyone continue - it would make it so much more consistent to see the kids grow into adults and develop like they did in the book. And since this book references so many incidents from the first four, it would seem jarring to have another actor talking about the things that everyone did previously. I know it would bother the heck out of me ;-) Cindy From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Tue Jun 24 06:32:32 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:32:32 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624013032.00b8d1c0@mail.kriselda.net> >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" >wrote: > >That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable of playing OoP's Harry? I've not yet read the book (I ordered it from Amazon UK so I could get the "Adult Edition", since I have the "Adult Editions" of the other 4), but keep in mind that by the time they get around to filming OoP, Daniel will be at least 2 to 3 years older than he is right now - and is likely to do a lot of maturing - not only as an actor, but also as a person - in that time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 07:44:42 2003 From: bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com (bruinfan1988) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:44:42 -0000 Subject: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <159.2019de7b.2c29275b@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CLShannon at a... wrote: >> > On a related note, I couldn't help thinking as I was reading the book about the actors' reactions while 'they' were reading it ;-) I know it sounds silly, but I can imagine the kid who plays Neville saying, 'wow, my part is huge in this!' ;-) I thought the same thing while reading it, but about the girl who plays Ginny -- "wow, I'm fun and way popular all of a sudden. excellent!" And Tom Felton --"hmm, not dead, after all, but not really much of part." From sara1412au at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 14:02:43 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:02:43 -0000 Subject: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" wrote: > A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am I the only person > here who thinks that there is almost no way they can make a movie out of this? That > there is simply no way that the people behind, at least, the first two films are gonna > be able to handle, say, that Pensieve scene? That Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? > > > > Derannimer I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be able to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes in the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death & very unpleasant people in masks threatening Harry). The films are now so far behind the books that anything could happen wrt casting by the time that OOP is finally made. I'm ecstatic that Snape & Lupin (& Neville) will get more screen time - I honestly hadn't appreciated how much I really liked Neville as a character (and in my minds eye, I did picture Neville as the movie Neville), until the infamous Death chamber scene where of all the characters potentially in peril a(must be a record no for a book), I was really, really relieved that Neville didn't fall through the arch when his robe tore and the prophecy fell. Sara From timregan at microsoft.com Tue Jun 24 15:54:30 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:54:30 -0000 Subject: GoF kids movie? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All, --- Sara wrote: > I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be able > to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes in > the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death & very unpleasant > people in masks threatening Harry). Me too, and I think that's especially true for an American audience. Men hiding their identity by wearing hoods, so that they can scare, torture, and kill those they consider of subhuman blood has a more recent history here in the Klu Klux Klan. That will be extremely difficult to tackle in a kids movie. Yours, Dumbledad From timregan at microsoft.com Tue Jun 24 16:01:53 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:01:53 -0000 Subject: OoP: Saying You-know-who's name Message-ID: Hi All, I thought JKR corrected Kloves' screenplay when it conflicted with future plotting? In OoP Hermione clearly states that she is now going to stop calling Voldy He-who-must-not-be-named. Yet in CoS she's already lectured Ron on that. I guess it's only a small point, but it made me chuckle at SK's mistake. Anyone spot any other OoP lines that have been accidentally flinted / contradicted in the two movies? Cheers, Dumbledad From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 20:14:47 2003 From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra Pan) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kloves - upcoming projects (was) OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030624201447.94701.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Jo Serenadust: > I'm even more pessimistic about the > screenplay, however. Do we have > to have Kloves forever? Doesn't he > want to do something *else*? That's an interesting question. So I went searching for some answers. Here's what I found at Variety.com - FROM Jul. 31, 2002: Warner Bros. is negotiating to buy screen rights to a novel by Mark Haddon titled "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time," with Steve Kloves in early talks to adapt and direct and Brad Pitt's production company, joined by David Heyman, to produce. Variety noted that this "...is quite a talent roster for a British novel that seems on the surface the simple story of an autistic 15-year-old's attempt to replicate the methods of his literary idol Sherlock Holmes and discover who killed his neighbor's dog with a garden tool. But that investigation is just a red herring amid the boy's coming-of-age adventure." According to the article, this new novel should be published around now in the U.K. and is being marketed to both adults and young adults. Any Brits seen this out yet? The article goes on to say that: "Landing Kloves would be a coup...he is very selective and deliberate about what he writes." FROM Jun. 22, 2000: Cameron Crowe is in early negotiations to develop and helm "Shockproof Sydney Skate," based on the novel by Marijane Meaker...Steve Kloves has already wrote several drafts and will rewrite under Crowe's supervision. Teri Schwartz (who has had the options since 1977) and Goldie Hawn are to produce. Told from the POV of a 17-year old boy, this is a coming-of-age story about a young man who, between boarding school and college, falls in love with a female model with whom his mother, an ad exec, is also in love. FROM Feb. 26, 1999: Steve Kloves will script for DreamWorks the Americanized remake of the hit French film "Le Diner de Cons," which Francis Veber will direct...Kloves will begin work right away to Americanize the film.... DreamWorks has not settled on a title, but the film is widely called "Dinner for Schmucks." * * There's a couple of other projects on his plate in addition. Chances are, they are coming-of-age stories too. OK, break over, I'm going back to wishing I'm at home savoring OotP slooowly...maybe later I'll research my current favorites for adapting the HP books: William Goldman and Emma Thompson. Petra, can't believe she left OotP at home a n :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From manda at qx.net Tue Jun 24 23:37:02 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:37:02 -0700 Subject: OOP: Actors' reactions In-Reply-To: <159.2019de7b.2c29275b@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EF87E2E.9236.D7CABB@localhost> On 24 Jun 2003 at 0:02, CLShannon at aol.com wrote: > > On a related note, I couldn't help thinking as I was reading the book > about the actors' reactions while 'they' were reading it ;-) I know it > sounds silly, but I can imagine the kid who plays Neville saying, > 'wow, my part is huge in this!' ;-) I was thinking the same thing while reading Susan Bones's much increased part. Even if Chris Columbus doesn't direct we may still have another Columbus involved with the film (i.e. Eleanor). And of course, I can't help but anticipate seeing Alan Rickman relish in the Occlumency lesson scenes. :-) Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From CLShannon at aol.com Tue Jun 24 23:10:20 2003 From: CLShannon at aol.com (CLShannon at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:10:20 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: Actors' reactions Message-ID: <10.3225ac4c.2c2a345c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/24/03 1:46:33 PM, manda at qx.net writes: << I was thinking the same thing while reading Susan Bones's much increased part. Even if Chris Columbus doesn't direct we may still have another Columbus involved with the film (i.e. Eleanor). >> Yeah, but I would recast since she's not English and Susan has lines in OOTP ;-) I doubt if Eleanor can master an English accent since she isn't even an actress. Cindy From heidi at blaydz.com Wed Jun 25 00:36:10 2003 From: heidi at blaydz.com (Heidi) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:36:10 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. Message-ID: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From 5joneses at earthlink.net Wed Jun 25 02:08:20 2003 From: 5joneses at earthlink.net (EJ) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:08:20 -0400 Subject: OOP: Veiled Arch In-Reply-To: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624220228.00a01090@earthlink.net> Re-reading some passages and a few things hit me. Dumbledore called the archway with the veil a "Death Chamber". I am venturing to guess, considering the set up of the room with seats , it may be where bad wizards are sent to "die", like an electric chair of sorts. Maybe a soul keeper. Since Sirius was not meant to "die" that way but merely fell into it, he may not be technically dead. We also didn't hear what curse was used, it could have been "stupefy" for all we know. His death was not tidy, it should have been at least discussed or explained by the end of the book. I can't quite buy that this is the last we will see of Sirius. EJ ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/03 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rvotaw at i-55.com Wed Jun 25 02:27:00 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:27:00 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definate)References to Spoilers/ Actor's reactions References: Message-ID: <00e501c33ac1$42356300$359ecdd1@RVotaw> Sara wrote: > I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be able > to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes in > the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death & very unpleasant > people in masks threatening Harry). Well, they've never even tried to get a G rating, even with SS/PS, which they watered down a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up with PG-13 for GoF of not OoP. Now, I've no idea what this means, as I don't know what the UK rating system for movies is. But for what it's worth, Chris Rankin (Percy) said in an interview about the filming of PoA (from BBC in early June) "I've a feeling it might be a 12A certificate, but that won't stop kids coming to see it. " Anyone care to explain what a 12A certificate is? I see on IMDB PS and CoS were UK PG, which sounds like our ratings here in the US. And I noticed the James Bond movie Die Another Day is UK 12A and that's PG-13 here. Are they equivalent ratings? On 24 Jun 2003 at 0:02, CLShannon at aol.com wrote: > > On a related note, I couldn't help thinking as I was reading the book > about the actors' reactions while 'they' were reading it ;-) I know it > sounds silly, but I can imagine the kid who plays Neville saying, > 'wow, my part is huge in this!' ;-) I'm imagining the kid who plays Seamus. "Boy, I'm such a jerk!" Cindy wrote: > Yeah, but I would recast since she's not English and Susan has lines in OOTP > ;-) I doubt if Eleanor can master an English accent since she isn't even an > actress. It all depends on the person really. Myself, I have to kick myself after a few hours of Pride and Prejudice because I'll start speaking with an accent. Eleanor has lived in the UK for around three years now, maybe more. So she may well have picked it up. However, whether she even wants to stay on would of course depend of Chris Columbus stays on as at least producer. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Wed Jun 25 02:32:30 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:32:30 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624211906.00bbbf28@mail.kriselda.net> Heidi recently mentioned: >Seems to me that there was once a movie rated PG, which included a >dismemberment of a hand, executed by a scary guy in a mask who had a >terrible breathing problem. The hero who lost his hand was called Luke >Skywalker ... True, but there's a few differences that may make the scene in Harry Potter a bit harder for kids than the one in Star Wars. With Luke and Darth, you had two adults who were engaged in a one-on-one battle in which Luke's hand is cut off during the course of the fighting. With Goblet of Fire, however, you have a child who has just been yanked into a very unexpected setting, has several adults standing around him, masked, intent on intimidating and threatening him; has to watch as a servant willingly has his hand cut off - even though the servant knows that it will be quite painful and demonstrates the anticipation of that pain through his fear; sees someone he's come to consider something of a friend (and to whom the audience is very likely to be sympathetic) coldly murdered; and has to watch as his greatest enemy is "reborn" into a new body, after which the enemy plans to kill him. That's a much scarier and emotionally traumatic scenario - especially for children - than the confrontation between Luke and Darth is - at least in my opinion. It's not so much the bloodiness or any other single aspect, but the cumulative effects of the entire scene that I think is likely to cause problems with the rating. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Wed Jun 25 02:34:39 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:34:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: Veiled Arch In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624220228.00a01090@earthlink.net> References: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624213301.00b80878@mail.kriselda.net> EJ recently mentioned: >Re-reading some passages and a few things hit me. Dumbledore called the >archway with the veil a "Death Chamber". I am venturing to guess, >considering the set up of the room with seats , it may be where bad wizards >are sent to "die", like an electric chair of sorts. Maybe a soul keeper. >Since Sirius was not meant to "die" that way but merely fell into it, he >may not be technically dead. We also didn't hear what curse was used, it >could have been "stupefy" for all we know. His death was not tidy, it >should have been at least discussed or explained by the end of the book. I >can't quite buy that this is the last we will see of Sirius. From what I've heard, JKR has said that this is a "real" death and is not something the character will be able to come back from. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lita at sailordom.com Wed Jun 25 02:56:21 2003 From: lita at sailordom.com (Lita) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> References: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> Message-ID: <20030624205106.E1958@hedwig.sailordom.com> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Heidi wrote: > Seems to me that there was once a movie rated PG, > which included a dismemberment of a hand, executed by a > scary guy in a mask who had a terrible breathing problem. > The hero who lost his hand was called Luke Skywalker ... Well, to be fair, the PG-13 rating did not come about until 1984. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK came out in 1980--at that time, the only choices were G, PG, R, and X. I don't think you can compare the two situations. I suppose it really depends on how they adapt GoF, though. There is enough of a dark tone in the book to make it darker than your standard PG movie, IMO. Lita ----------------------------------------------- -The Society of Lex Redemptionists http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lex_Society/ -Buffyverse: Redemptionist-friendly discussion http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buffyverse/ -Birdwatchers: About the DC comic Birds of Prey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/birdwatchers/ From glcherry at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 25 05:26:04 2003 From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (glcherry at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:26:04 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: Veiled Arch References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030624220228.00a01090@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3EF9326C.4050302@bellsouth.net> Thank you so much for saying this. Another thing to...If this was an execution area, how many wizards died with their wands in their hands? Sirius had his when he went through the 'Veil', and I CANNOT believe that he is gone forever. I refuse! Still crying, Lorrie EJ wrote: >Re-reading some passages and a few things hit me. Dumbledore called the >archway with the veil a "Death Chamber". I am venturing to guess, >considering the set up of the room with seats , it may be where bad wizards >are sent to "die", like an electric chair of sorts. Maybe a soul keeper. >Since Sirius was not meant to "die" that way but merely fell into it, he >may not be technically dead. We also didn't hear what curse was used, it >could have been "stupefy" for all we know. His death was not tidy, it >should have been at least discussed or explained by the end of the book. I >can't quite buy that this is the last we will see of Sirius. > >EJ > > ---------- > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/03 > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > >WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > >Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > >Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! > >Is your message... >An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. >Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. >Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. >None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. >Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com >____________________________________________________________ > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > From ninacdavis at juno.com Wed Jun 25 00:52:58 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (Nina C Davis) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 20:52:58 -0400 Subject: Newbie intro & Re: OOP: Actors' reactions (*spoilers*) Message-ID: <20030624.220011.3712.1.ninacdavis@juno.com> Hello, I'm Nina from Ohio. I'm a librarian and a writer and general worshipper/drooler at the shrines of Alan Rickman and Jason Issacs. :) On 24 Jun 2003 at 0:02, CLShannon at aol.com wrote: > > On a related note, I couldn't help thinking as I was reading the book > about the actors' reactions while 'they' were reading it ;-) I know it > sounds silly, but I can imagine the kid who plays Neville saying, > 'wow, my part is huge in this!' ;-) LOL. Yeah, I was so happy for Neville that he got to mature, find some backbone. The actor has to be thrilled. Otoh, Gary Oldman may've had an idea that he wouldn't be locked in to more than two movies, making his decision easier. In truth, Daniel will have a chance to stretch his acting chops. Some readers are already complaining that Harry is whiny in OOP. Even though I, in my "ancient" wisdom (ha!) can see things a 15-year-old doesn't, I don't think he's whiny, but all that teen angst n' anger can easily cross over into annoying if done poorly. Nice to be here, Nina [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninacdavis at juno.com Wed Jun 25 03:00:36 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (Nina C Davis) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:00:36 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: Veiled Arch Message-ID: <20030624.230036.3712.6.ninacdavis@juno.com> This is my problem with the death too. Any way you look at it -- and I've seen some amazing lit analyses -- it wasn't well executed (no pun intended). I assumed it was his falling through the arch that killed him, but one really did have to assume it, because no one explained to Harry (or us) why he couldn't come back from it. Since time itself is one of the mysteries "stored" in the dept., however, death being kept there as a mystery would make sense, and there is literary and, I believe, biblical allusion to the concept of the veil (and the shroud). I have rereading to do with this book, definite rereading. As for his coming back in a corporal sense, never say never, but JKR has said he is most definitely dead. She's also said that the sad in death make ghosts, so there's nothing to say that he may not reappear that way, even though Nick was discouraging the idea. Part of me hopes Cuaron is around to direct the movie of this book. The imagery arguably has the most potential of any of the books so far. Nina From sara1412au at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 10:04:42 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:04:42 -0000 Subject: OOP: (spoilers) - Casting Message-ID: s p o i l e r s p a c e | | | | | V Someone mentioned this on the main board (which is completely unmanageable at present - more than 2000 post in 3 days!) and was told to come here (but didn't)... So - who did you see as each of the main new character in OOP? I'll start - Dolores Umbridge - Magda Szubanski, an Anipodean comidienne (AKA Mrs Hoggett in "Babe") would be great. She had a recurring character in a long-running TV comedy skit show who was Dolores to a tee (well, externally anyway). I know that JKR doesn't want any colonials in the films, however she could always make an exception. Other main characters (who I've not thought about yet)- Luna - no idea (the actress who'll play her is probably still in nappies) Tonks - Any spikey-haired "cool" new British actress I guess Over to the rest of you! Sara From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Wed Jun 25 11:01:06 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 04:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: (spoilers) - Casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030625110106.30125.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> s p o i l e r s p a c e | | | | | V Sara wrote: <<>> And now me (Odile): For the role of Dolores Umbridge, I nominate Zelda Rubinstein. She was the tiny exorcist in Poltergeist who proclaimed, in her little squeaky girly voice: "This house is clean." Yeah, I know she's American... I'm only half-way through OOP, so I haven't had a chance to "cast" the rest of the book yet, but I still think Sean Connery would be perfect as Mad-Eye Moody! ^_^ From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 25 14:43:47 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:43:47 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: References to spoilers; may be spoilers Message-ID: <15c.1f9b4dde.2c2b0f23@aol.com> Derannimer wrote: > Daniel Radcliffe is in no way capable > of playing OoP's Harry? > I completely disagree -- When they get around to making that film, he will have the physical presence to carry it off, and he already has the emotional range. He's shown quite impressive skills at depicting rage, resentment, fear, joy, all of which are what spring to mind when I think of Harry in OoP. Resentment is a normal part of most teen's lives in their mid-teen years, and yet, in CoS, when he was asked if he knew what to do when the guests arrived, he said, with perfectly depicted and controlled resentment, that he was to go to his room and act like he didn't exist (paraphrasing). Spoiler ahead: As for the book being capable of being filmed -- I saw it as a movie as I read it. The fight scene, in particular, will be quite amazing on film. Can't you visualize the whole group of wizards escorting Harry on broomsticks on their way to Headquarters? The Thestrals will be amazing, surely not a lot more difficult to create than Buckbeak. I can't wait to see it as a movie (but I want to see PoA and GoF FIRST, of course! ;->) Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 25 14:50:52 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:50:52 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF kids' movie Message-ID: <57.1ec6f447.2c2b10cc@aol.com> In a message dated 6/25/2003 4:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > >I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be able > >to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes > in > >the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death &very unpleasant > >people in masks threatening Harry). I think the audience is aging along with the books -- and that the movies will become PG or even R rated by the time the series is done, and that that will be appropriate. And I think the audience will be there. There will be more adults, the kids who've grown up on Harry, and new folks who have found him. THose with little kids will probably wait until their kids are older to see the video of these more mature films -- or maybe the kids will have been acclimated to the scenes by hearing them in the books over and over and it won't be too bad for them. I wouldn't take a TINY kid to see CoS, but a mid-grade school kid, sure, middle and high school, absolutely. Parents will have to judge for themselves, as always, what's appropriate for their child. Scary scenes are not nearly so bad when seen on the smaller screen of a TV, and in a decently lighted living room (I know this from experience -- I won't watch horror films in theaters, but on TV, they don't bother me nearly as much.) JMO. Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Wed Jun 25 14:58:41 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:58:41 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF movie Message-ID: <77.13f4a178.2c2b12a1@aol.com> In a message dated 6/25/2003 4:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > With Goblet of Fire, > however, you have a child who has just been yanked into a very unexpected > setting, has several adults standing around him, masked, intent on > intimidating and threatening him; has to watch as a servant willingly has > his hand cut off - even though the servant knows that it will be quite > painful and demonstrates the anticipation of that pain through his fear; > sees someone he's come to consider something of a friend (and to whom the > audience is very likely to be sympathetic) coldly murdered; and has to > watch as his greatest enemy is "reborn" into a new body, after which the > enemy plans to kill him. That's a much scarier and emotionally traumatic > scenario - especially for children - than the confrontation between Luke > and Darth is - at least in my opinion. > But in typical movie fashion, they will probably take the camera away from Wormtail's actions as he cuts off his hand, and show Harry's reaction to what goes on, and you'll hear Wormtail scream and moan and all that, and then the camera will show him dropping the hand into the cauldron, or maybe they won't even be that graphic, but will just show him clutching his by-then-wrapped stump of an arm. Later we'll have confirmed visually what happened when we see the silver hand appear on his arm. That's not gory, just tense, as is much of the rest of the scene preceding and after that. It's SUPPOSED to be scary. Kids actually like scary stuff (remember Grimm's Fairy Tales? Yikes!) It will work, and I know there are ways to make it PG-13 if they want to. Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 25 17:15:41 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:15:41 -0000 Subject: GoF kids movie? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" wrote: > Hi All, > > --- Sara wrote: > > I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be able > > to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes > in > > the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death & very unpleasant > > people in masks threatening Harry). > > > Me too, and I think that's especially true for an American audience. > Men hiding their identity by wearing hoods, so that they can scare, > torture, and kill those they consider of subhuman blood has a more > recent history here in the Klu Klux Klan. That will be extremely > difficult to tackle in a kids movie. > Yes, this is a very large problem with the way Warner Brothers has positioned this series. They bought the rights (I assume) without knowing exactly what JKR would write in the next 6 books, just as none of us who read PS/SS could know what she would write. Now that they are seeing (I hope against all hope they are actually reading OotP now) exactly how dark this series is becoming, I bet the Big Enchiladas there are scratching their heads and saying, "holy beeping beep, there's no way we can continue to market this as a kids' series." That's if they are honest with themselves and have any interest in maintaining the integrity of the story. However, if they continue to use Steve Kloves as the screen writer (IF they manage to get past GoF) I foresee these movies being horribly dumbed down and sanitized, rather than facing up to the angsty issues involved with Voldy's return and Angry!Harry. I'm not really looking forward to the movie adaptation of OotP... it could be scarily bad... Anne U (who thinks Dan Radcliffe COULD play Angry!Harry...he's not even 14 yet, his hormones haven't kicked into high gear... but since he's such a basically decent and well-adjusted kid, it might be a severe stretch) From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 25 17:34:40 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:34:40 -0000 Subject: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <20030625003614.3571ADF74A@mail02.powweb.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Heidi" wrote: > > Seems to me that there was once a movie rated PG, which included a dismemberment of a hand, executed by a scary guy in a mask who had a terrible breathing problem. The hero who lost his hand was called Luke Skywalker ... > > Good point, Heidi. And frankly I think WB might be willing to stretch this to PG-13. There's no actual SEX in it, which of course is more likely to give a movie an R rating than almost any amount of mayhem (IMO). Not to mention that the kids who recently watched CoS (like my daughter, who is now almost 7) are likely to be at least 11 years old by the time OotP is released, and many kids under 13 see PG-13 movies; the rating does mean "parental guidance for kids under 13." Anne U (who knows Heidi's kids are a tad young yet for PG-13:-) From timregan at microsoft.com Wed Jun 25 17:44:25 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:44:25 -0000 Subject: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: <20030625110106.30125.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi All, For Dolores Umbridge we've had --- In HPFGU-Movie Sara wrote: > Dolores Umbridge - Magda Szubanski, an Anipodean > comidienne (AKA Mrs Hoggett in "Babe") would be > great --- In HPFGU-Movie Odile wrote: > For the role of Dolores Umbridge, I nominate Zelda > Rubinstein. She was the tiny exorcist in Poltergeist > who proclaimed, in her little squeaky girly voice: > "This house is clean." My wife and I are hoping it will be Patsy Byrne: She was Nursie in Blackadder and loads of other good UK TV roles: She hasn't played anything dark I know of yet, but she's a good actress so I'm sure she'd rise to the challenge. Cheers, Dumbledad. From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Wed Jun 25 21:11:28 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:11:28 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. Message-ID: >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" >wrote: >> A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am >I the only person >> here who thinks (snip) That Daniel Radcliffe >is in no way capable >> of playing OoP's Harry? I disagree. See CoS; the scene near the end when angry Harry confronts Lockhart about taking credit for what other wizards have done. Plus; DR will have had an additional three? years' acting experience by then. If he continues to improve at the same rate he did from PS/SS to CoS, he'll do fine. I agree with others' concerns about Kloves, however. Regards, Nicholas ...imagining the entire cast and crew of PoA with their noses stuck into OoP this week! From glcherry at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 25 23:26:59 2003 From: glcherry at bellsouth.net (glcherry at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:26:59 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: (spoilers) - Casting References: <20030625110106.30125.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EFA2FC3.2070703@bellsouth.net> this is spolier space. How much longer do we have to do this? I didn't vote for this long anyway. I love Zelda :) but sad to say this...isn't she dead now too? This is a one line answer, which I know we aren't supposed to do, so I'm just saying this, so that ADMIN won't have a cow and send me a Howler, which I don't need. Lorrie Odile Falaise wrote: >s >p >o >i >l >e >r > >s >p >a >c >e > >| >| >| >| >| >V > >Sara wrote: ><<completely unmanageable at present - more than 2000 >post in 3 days!) and was told to come here (but >didn't)... So - who did you see as each of the main >new character in OOP? > ><<Dolores Umbridge - Magda Szubanski, an Anipodean >comidienne (AKA Mrs Hoggett in "Babe") would be >great.>>> > >And now me (Odile): > >For the role of Dolores Umbridge, I nominate Zelda >Rubinstein. She was the tiny exorcist in Poltergeist >who proclaimed, in her little squeaky girly voice: >"This house is clean." Yeah, I know she's American... > >I'm only half-way through OOP, so I haven't had a >chance to "cast" the rest of the book yet, but I still >think Sean Connery would be perfect as Mad-Eye Moody! >^_^ > > >________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > >WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > >Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > >Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! > >Is your message... >An announcement of merchandise, news etc.? Send it to HPFGU-Announcements. >Movie-related? Send it to HPFGU-Movie. >Referencing *only* the books? Send it to HPforGrownups. >None of the above? OT? Send it to HPFGU-OTChatter. >Unsure? Other questions? Ask your personal List Elf or the Mods -- MagicalMods at yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com >____________________________________________________________ > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > From WFeuchter at msn.com Wed Jun 25 22:16:15 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:16:15 -0000 Subject: GoF kids movie? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Anne U > (who thinks Dan Radcliffe COULD play Angry!Harry...he's not even 14 > yet, his hormones haven't kicked into high gear... but since he's > such a basically decent and well-adjusted kid, it might be a severe > stretch) Your statement made me think. Does a good actor need to have experienced an emotion to act it successfully? But by the time you are 12 you have really experience almost all emotions except "love". So it might just lie with the director to bring out or control the emotion in the actor. Bill From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Wed Jun 25 21:11:29 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:11:29 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OoP: Saying You-know-who's name Message-ID: Tim said:- > Anyone spot any other OoP lines that have been accidentally >flinted / contradicted in the two movies? Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Not contradicted, but in PS/SS, the infirmary scene, SK didn't have Harry ask Dumbledore that all-important question. Regards, Nicholas Hmm; a cryptic post. Maybe I didn't need spoiler space after all....:) From rvotaw at i-55.com Wed Jun 25 23:27:20 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:27:20 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OoP: Saying You-know-who's name References: Message-ID: <026401c33b71$5391e780$889ecdd1@RVotaw> ----- Tim said:- > Anyone spot any other OoP lines that have been accidentally >flinted / contradicted in the two movies? Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Nicholas wrote: Not contradicted, but in PS/SS, the infirmary scene, SK didn't have Harry ask Dumbledore that all-important question. I need to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure Harry asked the question, except he asked Hagrid. Not the same thing to us, I know, but at least the question is in there. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ninacdavis at juno.com Thu Jun 26 01:03:53 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (Nina C Davis) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:03:53 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: References to Spoilers. Maybe Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. Message-ID: <20030625.211255.1968.1.ninacdavis@juno.com> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:11:28 +0100 nicholas at adelanta.co.uk writes: >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" >wrote: >> A question for all of you out there who have finished the book: Am >I the only person >> here who thinks (snip) That Daniel Radcliffe >is in no way capable >> of playing OoP's Harry? While I'm not sure what other acting Dan's doing, I at least look forward to seeing if he is up to the challenge. People have already complained about Angry Teen Harry coming off at times as whiny. The challenge for him will be to pull off the anger and confusion without crossing that line, more precarious on film, imo, than in writing. Nina, who's happy to add her vote for another screenplaywright From timregan at microsoft.com Thu Jun 26 01:21:09 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:21:09 -0000 Subject: Can Daniel act OoP!Harry (was Re. OOP: References to Spoilers.) In-Reply-To: <20030625.211255.1968.1.ninacdavis@juno.com> Message-ID: Hi All, --- In HPFGU-Movie Nina wrote: > While I'm not sure what other acting Dan's doing, I at least look forward > to seeing if he is up to the challenge. People have already complained > about Angry Teen Harry coming off at times as whiny. The challenge for > him will be to pull off the anger and confusion without crossing that > line, more precarious on film, imo, than in writing. Here's a quote from Daniel: "I've kind of developed an interest in a lot of original punk rock now. I like the Sex Pistols, The Undertones, bands like that" That should help prepare him! Cheers, Dumbledad From anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 26 01:31:21 2003 From: anneu53714 at sbcglobal.net (Anne) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:31:21 -0000 Subject: Can Daniel act OoP!Harry (was Re. OOP: References to Spoilers.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" wrote: > Hi All, >> > Here's a quote from Daniel: > > "I've kind of developed an interest in a lot of original punk rock > now. I like the Sex Pistols, The Undertones, bands like that" > > rview_kids.asp> > > That should help prepare him! > So... as preparation for playing Angry!Harry, Daniel shuts himself up in his parents' house in London for about 6 weeks prior to filming OotP and spends 18 hours a day listening to the Sex Pistols, The Undertones, The Clash ("London Calling"), etc. And of course watching Gary Oldman (aka Sirius) playing Sid Vicious in "Sid and Nancy." Anne U (it's called "research") From geri510 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 02:12:22 2003 From: geri510 at yahoo.com (geri510) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:12:22 -0000 Subject: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" wrote: > Hi All, > > For Dolores Umbridge we've had > > > My wife and I are hoping it will be Patsy Byrne: > > > > She was Nursie in Blackadder and loads of other good UK TV roles: > > > > She hasn't played anything dark I know of yet, but she's a good > actress so I'm sure she'd rise to the challenge. > > Cheers, > > Dumbledad. Me: Since I don't get to watch British TV anymore (live in US) I've thought of Patricia Routledge from "Keeping up Appearances" which I still watch on BBCAmerica. She has the look of Umbridge & I'm sure she can carry the evilness. From a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 02:54:26 2003 From: a_rude_mechanical at yahoo.com (a_rude_mechanical) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:54:26 -0000 Subject: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "geri510" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > For Dolores Umbridge we've had > > > > > > My wife and I are hoping it will be Patsy Byrne: > > > > > > > > She was Nursie in Blackadder and loads of other good UK TV roles: > > > > > > > > She hasn't played anything dark I know of yet, but she's a good > > actress so I'm sure she'd rise to the challenge. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dumbledad. > > Me: Since I don't get to watch British TV anymore (live in US) I've > thought of Patricia Routledge from "Keeping up Appearances" which I > still watch on BBCAmerica. She has the look of Umbridge & I'm sure > she can carry the evilness. I really like Patsy Byrne's pics--she really looks the part! My other choice is Kathy Burke. I love that we have so many new characters to cast! Elisabeth From heidi at blaydz.com Thu Jun 26 03:55:28 2003 From: heidi at blaydz.com (Heidi) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:55:28 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. References: Message-ID: <3EFA6EB0.7020607@blaydz.com> Sorry, but you have me mixed up with the other Heidi. I'm the one named after the book :) I have no kids (wish I did, and I'll accept any references to single, middle aged men, sight unseen.) Back on topic, I'd like to see DR play 15 yo James Potter, and handle the difference in personality while looking the same. And who would play young Sirius and Severus? As for the movie ratings, I know quite a few 12-14 yo's who have seen Matrix, and when I point out that it's rated 'R', they just shrug and say, "My parents don't care." Anne wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Heidi" wrote: > > > > Seems to me that there was once a movie rated PG, which included a > dismemberment of a hand, executed by a scary guy in a mask who had a > terrible breathing problem. The hero who lost his hand was called > Luke Skywalker ... > > > > > > Good point, Heidi. And frankly I think WB might be willing to stretch > this to PG-13. There's no actual SEX in it, which of course is more > likely to give a movie an R rating than almost any amount of mayhem > (IMO). Not to mention that the kids who recently watched CoS (like my > daughter, who is now almost 7) are likely to be at least 11 years old > by the time OotP is released, and many kids under 13 see PG-13 > movies; the rating does mean "parental guidance for kids under 13." > > Anne U > (who knows Heidi's kids are a tad young yet for PG-13:-) > > > > Yahoo! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From lita at sailordom.com Thu Jun 26 05:06:29 2003 From: lita at sailordom.com (Lita) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <3EFA6EB0.7020607@blaydz.com> References: <3EFA6EB0.7020607@blaydz.com> Message-ID: <20030625225636.S3306@hedwig.sailordom.com> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Heidi wrote: > As for the movie ratings, I know quite a few 12-14 yo's who have seen > Matrix, and when I point out that it's rated 'R', they just shrug and > say, "My parents don't care." This is too true. I really don't think the movies themselves will suffer if they go up to PG-13 around GoF/OOP time. (Assuming they don't just leave out the disturbing things like Umbridge's detention quill, which is what I think is most likely.) Frankly, I don't think enough parents in the US care enough. I tend to go to the movies every week or so and see what's opening--not only are the PG-13 movie lines packed with parents taking small (2-6 year olds) children, but the R rated lines aren't much better. Or maybe I've just become jaded this year. ::sigh:: Lita, who was horrified to see a mother get into a Matrix line opening day with a toddler and a another child who couldn't have been more than 6 From timregan at microsoft.com Thu Jun 26 05:19:58 2003 From: timregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:19:58 -0000 Subject: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: <20030625225636.S3306@hedwig.sailordom.com> Message-ID: Hi All, --- In HPFGU-Movie Lita wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Heidi wrote: > > As for the movie ratings, I know quite a few 12-14 yo's > > who have seen Matrix, and when I point out that it's > > rated 'R', they just shrug and say, "My parents don't > > care." > Frankly, I don't think enough parents in the US care enough. It may be that, or it may just be the cultural background of the parents (I can live in hope). Take a look at the ratings for The Matrix Reloaded in various countries: Argentina:13 Australia:M Brazil:12 Canada:14A Chile:TE Denmark:11 Egypt:(Banned) Finland:K-11 France:U Germany:16 Netherlands:12 New Zealand:M Norway:11 Singapore:NC-16 (uncut version) Singapore:PG (cut version) Sweden:11 Switzerland:14 UK:15 USA:R So an Egyptian may think that we adults are immoral for going to see it, while a Norwegian would think we were being repressive if we prevented 12 year olds watching it! Cheers, Dumbledad. From lita at sailordom.com Thu Jun 26 05:35:19 2003 From: lita at sailordom.com (Lita) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:35:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers. Proceed with Caution. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030625232320.O3306@hedwig.sailordom.com> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Tim Regan wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie Lita wrote: > > > Frankly, I don't think enough parents in the US care enough. > > It may be that, or it may just be the cultural background of the > parents (I can live in hope). Take a look at the ratings for The > Matrix Reloaded in various countries: > > Argentina:13 > Australia:M > Brazil:12 > Canada:14A > Chile:TE > Denmark:11 > Egypt:(Banned) > Finland:K-11 > France:U > Germany:16 > Netherlands:12 > New Zealand:M > Norway:11 > Singapore:NC-16 (uncut version) > Singapore:PG (cut version) > Sweden:11 > Switzerland:14 > UK:15 > USA:R > > So an Egyptian may think that we adults are immoral for going to see > it, while a Norwegian would think we were being repressive if we > prevented 12 year olds watching it! LOL. True. :) But that still doesn't explain people taking their young kids (toddler through 7/8 year olds) to see the movie, either, as it doesn't look like a PG-equivalent movie elsewhere. :) ::shrug:: But Reloaded is only the most recent example I can think of--probably the most horrifying one I've seen was the parents with two toddlers at The Cell. But, back to HP--I don't think that getting a PG-13 rating in US would hurt the franchise that much. I don't really think many parents pay much attention to the ratings. Lita From sara1412au at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 12:30:00 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: GoF movie In-Reply-To: <77.13f4a178.2c2b12a1@aol.com> Message-ID: Lynda wrote: > But in typical movie fashion, they will probably take the camera >away from Wormtail's actions as he cuts off his hand, and show >Harry's reaction to what goes on, and you'll hear Wormtail scream >and moan and all that, and then the camera will show him dropping >the hand into the cauldron, or maybe they won't even be that >graphic, but will just show him clutching his by-then-wrapped stump > of an arm. I really don't know - I think that the mere *insinuation* of tortue and suffering will freak kids out (the unseen is often more vivdly imagined) - the scariest thing that I remember watching as a kid was "Jaws" (I saw it when I was about 8 or 9) and I swear that I wasn't able to watch the film in its entirety until I was well into my teens due to my hyperactive imagination filling in (and exaggerating) the bits that I kept closing my eyes for. On the other hand, perhaps children nowadays are a bit more cynical and sophisticated > we'll have confirmed visually what happened when we see the > silver hand appear on his arm. Me: I kept thinking about the end of the new Star Wars film ... and a certain character's wonderful shiny golden hand. Sara (also bemused by the idea of the entire PoA cast burrowing their noses in the books this week) From christin.gahnstrom at telia.com Thu Jun 26 12:45:34 2003 From: christin.gahnstrom at telia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christin=20Gahnstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:45:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ratings (going a bit OT) Message-ID: <200306261245.h5QCjYO28943@d1o265.telia.com> I'd like to defend the 11 rating for Matrix 2 from Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden. The violence in that film really isn't that gory, quite the opposite. My guess is the brief sex and nudity is the real reason why it got higher ratings in GB and USA. Many films with more violence get rated 12 (12A) and PG-13. Scandinavian countries don't tend to let sex be a reason for higher ratings. It'd have to be close to pornography before it gets 15, which is the highest rating in Sweden. Matrix 1, on the other hand, did get 15, at least in Sweden and Norway, because of the much darker tone and the gorier (is that a word?) violence. To get back in topic, the first two HP-films were rated 11 in Sweden. That means no kids at all less than seven years of age, and no kids under eleven, unless someone over the age of 18 accompanies them. Christin ---------------------- It may be that, or it may just be the cultural background of the parents (I can live in hope). Take a look at the ratings for The Matrix Reloaded in various countries: Argentina:13 Australia:M Brazil:12 Canada:14A Chile:TE Denmark:11 Egypt:(Banned) Finland:K-11 France:U Germany:16 Netherlands:12 New Zealand:M Norway:11 Singapore:NC-16 (uncut version) Singapore:PG (cut version) Sweden:11 Switzerland:14 UK:15 USA:R So an Egyptian may think that we adults are immoral for going to see it, while a Norwegian would think we were being repressive if we prevented 12 year olds watching it! Cheers, Dumbledad. From ninacdavis at juno.com Thu Jun 26 13:01:14 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (ninacdavis at juno.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:01:14 GMT Subject: Young Sirius & Severus was Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers.. . Message-ID: <20030626.060155.505.137460@webmail10.lax.untd.com> > Heidi at blaydz... wrote: > Back on topic, I'd like to see DR play 15 yo James Potter, and handle > the difference in personality while looking the same. And who would > play young Sirius and Severus? Good question, esp. for Sirius, who apparently was one hot li'l piece of young flesh. :) I can't think of specific actors who'd look young enough. They'll probably get unknowns, otherwise we'll be pointing at the screen going, "That's Ioan Gruffudd!" Hmm, and just as I say that, I wonder if Travis Fimmel would still look young enough by then to pull off Sirius.... He's a model, so even with face recognition, it wouldn't be enough to totally blow your mind. Nina From WFeuchter at msn.com Thu Jun 26 14:16:17 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:16:17 -0000 Subject: Young Sirius & Severus was Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers.. . In-Reply-To: <20030626.060155.505.137460@webmail10.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, ninacdavis at j... wrote: >> Hmm, and just as I say that, I wonder if Travis Fimmel would still look young enough by then to pull off Sirius.... He's a model, so even with face recognition, it wouldn't be enough to totally blow your mind. > > Nina How about James Bell who played Billy Elliott in the movie of the same name. He is about the same age as Dan, maybe a year older, and he was very good in the movie, showing a large range of emotion. Bill From ninacdavis at juno.com Thu Jun 26 15:44:40 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (ninacdavis at juno.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:44:40 GMT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Young Sirius & Severus was Re: OOP: (Definite)Refere nces to Spoilers.. . Message-ID: <20030626.084458.5706.150601@webmail08.lax.untd.com> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, ninacdavis at j... wrote: >> Hmm, and just as I say that, I wonder if Travis Fimmel would still look young enough by then to pull off Sirius.... He's a model, so even with face recognition, it wouldn't be enough to totally blow your mind. > > Nina How about James Bell who played Billy Elliott in the movie of the same name. He is about the same age as Dan, maybe a year older, and he was very good in the movie, showing a large range of emotion. Bill Um ... maybe for Snape? For that flashback itself, I didn't sense a need for a wide range of emotion. :) Sirius is definitely the jaded aristos pretty-boy of the bunch. I'm thinking more along the lines of Andrea of Monaco (Princess Caroline's eldest). Nina From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 14:34:26 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:34:26 -0000 Subject: Young Sirius & Severus was Re: OOP: (Definite)References to Spoilers.. . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "hpoldfan" wrote: > > > How about James Bell who played Billy Elliott in the movie of the > same name. He is about the same age as Dan, maybe a year older, and > he was very good in the movie, showing a large range of emotion. > > Bill He's great - but I would have picked him to play a younger Snape. Fan From debsabriel at earthlink.net Thu Jun 26 13:01:40 2003 From: debsabriel at earthlink.net (Debra Cebulski) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Movie Ratings Message-ID: <7064284.1056643301797.JavaMail.nobody@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Hello all, On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Lita wrote: >::shrug:: But Reloaded is only the most recent example I can >think of--probably the most horrifying one I've seen was the >parents with two toddlers at The Cell. I can top that - I saw a mother dragging two toddlers to see South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut. The theater knew what they were getting into with this film - you had to show ID twice: once at the box office and again as you entered the theater. I tried to warn the wayward mother about the movie's content, but she wouldn't listen. The first song is relatively tame. At least she had the sense to leave during the second song, which is, erm, rather extreme in its profanity (funny, though!). A father and six-year-old stayed for the whole thing, and he left the theater singing "Blame Canada". >But, back to HP--I don't think that getting a PG-13 rating >in US would hurt the franchise that much. I don't really >think many parents pay much attention to the ratings. I don't think it would hurt the franchise at all. The percentage of adult readers of HP is large and going up all the time. PS/SS came out in 1997 in the UK and 1998 in the US. A ten-year-old child who picked up book 1 at first publication would be 15 or 16 now - the age Harry is in OOP. Harry's child audience is aging with him. Instead of being forever ten (think Bart Simpson), Rowling is allowing Harry to grow up. I think the only thing the WB could do to harm the franchise would be to dumb down the movies in a vain attempt to keep them "child-friendly". This would be an insult to the characters, the readers of the books, the actors, and the author. Rowling has said from the very beginning that this series of books was not written specifically for children, and that Harry would be aging a year in each book. If the WB didn't listen to her, that's on them. JMHO, Best regards, Deb. From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jun 26 17:17:38 2003 From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:17:38 -0000 Subject: Casting OoP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've just beat a hasty retreat from the main list, and thought I'd butt in here with my ideas. Hope you don't mind... Dolores Umbridge - Imelda Staunton (Peter's Friends, Twelfth Night), or Helen Mirren (I know she's a bit tall, but my partner and I have been trying to work out if there's anyway we can get the entire cast of Gosford Park joining Michael Gambon, Maggie Smith and Geraldine whatserfface, who we've just worked out plays Lily Evans - although short of a last minute Thewlis/Oldman walkout, there isn't really any room for Richard E Grant or Clive Owens...) Tonks - Emily Watson (see above). Charlotte Coleman from Four Weddings would be *perfect*, but unfortunately died last year. Bellatrix Lestange (I know she isn't technically a *new* character, but we've seen so much more of her in OoP that I thought I'd bung her in anyway) - Kristin Scott Thomas, or Catherine Zeta Jones (purely on the basis of a tiny bit in the awful America's Sweethearts, where she does a very Bella facial expression) I also have casting ideas for two particular characters from GoF, and I justify bunging them in here by the fact that they were in the Order... Bill Weasley - Ewan MacGregor. With a ginger ponytail. Mmhmm. Mad-Eye - Billy Connelly. Sorry to intrude, but I had to get this out of my system somhow... Kirstini From bkdelong at pobox.com Thu Jun 26 18:57:25 2003 From: bkdelong at pobox.com (B.K. DeLong) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:57:25 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting OoP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030626145641.08021008@PO11.MIT.EDU> At 05:17 PM 6/26/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Mad-Eye - Billy Connelly. I continue to believe this is the perfect casting after seeing him in "Boondock Saints". -- B.K. DeLong bkdelong at pobox.com 617.797.2472 http://ocw.mit.edu Work. http://www.brain-stream.com Play. http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org Potter. http://www.attrition.org Security. http://www.city-of-doors.com Sigil From sarah_harbuck at yahoo.com Thu Jun 26 19:46:01 2003 From: sarah_harbuck at yahoo.com (Sarah) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:46:01 -0000 Subject: Casting OoP In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030626145641.08021008@PO11.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: hi everyone...new to the group... wow B.K. DeLong...i thought i was the only other person to have ever seen "Boondock Saints"!! I have to agree he'd be perfect for Moody!! :D Sarah in Texas --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "B.K. DeLong" wrote: > At 05:17 PM 6/26/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Mad-Eye - Billy Connelly. > > I continue to believe this is the perfect casting after seeing him in > "Boondock Saints". > > > -- > B.K. DeLong > bkdelong at p... > 617.797.2472 > > http://ocw.mit.edu Work. > http://www.brain-stream.com Play. > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org Potter. > http://www.attrition.org Security. > http://www.city-of-doors.com Sigil From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Thu Jun 26 22:01:41 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:01:41 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting OoP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030626170030.01b37068@mail.kriselda.net> kirst_inn recently mentioned: >I also have casting ideas for two particular characters from GoF, >and I justify bunging them in here by the fact that they were in the >Order... >Bill Weasley - Ewan MacGregor. With a ginger ponytail. Mmhmm. Oh, finding any excuse to put Ewan in the movies would be fine with me :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jun 26 18:01:48 2003 From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:01:48 -0000 Subject: Casting - GoF and OoP Message-ID: Yahoomort seems to have got my earlier post, in which I tried to bother you all with my casting ideas. I wrote about the game my partner and I have started to amuse ourselves with, trying to get as many members of the Gosford Park cast squeezed into HP films as possible, and said I'd like to see Helen Mirren as Umbridge, Emily Watson as Tonks and Kristin Scott Thomas as Bellatrix. I've got one more to add: James Wilby as Bagman. In addition to Gosford Park, he's been in things like Howard's End. I found a picture of him at this site: http://homepage2.nifty.com/James/home.htm Also, in a non-Gosford Park world, I would like to see Ewan MacGregor with ginger ponytail as Bill Weasley, and Billy Connolly as Mad-Eye. And Imelda Staunton as Umbridge, because she looks right (prettier, but still right). Sorry for butting in, but I'm hiding from the main list at the moment as it scares me. Kirstini From Audra1976 at aol.com Fri Jun 27 14:25:28 2003 From: Audra1976 at aol.com (Audra1976 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:25:28 EDT Subject: Casting - Charles Dance Message-ID: <7b.145a4351.2c2dadd8@aol.com> My boyfriend was telling me about this British actor, Charles Dance. He was the villain in "The Last Action Hero" and apparently was also in "Gosford Park" (along with the entire population of Britain it seems). He asked me if they could squeeze him into the Harry Potter movies as any character. Anybody who knows of him, who do you think he could play? -Audra- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Fri Jun 27 15:13:02 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:13:02 -0000 Subject: Casting - Charles Dance In-Reply-To: <7b.145a4351.2c2dadd8@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Audra1976 at a... wrote: > My boyfriend was telling me about this British actor, Charles Dance. He was > the villain in "The Last Action Hero" and apparently was also in "Gosford > Park" (along with the entire population of Britain it seems). He asked me if they > could squeeze him into the Harry Potter movies as any character. Anybody who > knows of him, who do you think he could play? > > -Audra- > Me: O.K., here's his web site http://www.charlesdance.co.uk/ & I think he should be in GoF (can't think of name of charactor - mind blank, but others have suggested Cary Elews for this person, damn my brain, was it Bagman??????). Fan From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Fri Jun 27 21:51:38 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:51:38 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OoP: Saying You-know-who's name Message-ID: > Tim said:- > > > Anyone spot any other OoP lines that have been accidentally > >flinted / contradicted in the two movies? > > Spoiler > > > > > Spoiler > > > Spoiler > > > > > Spoiler > > > Spoiler > > > > > Spoiler > Me previously:- > Not contradicted, but in PS/SS, the infirmary scene, SK didn't have Harry > ask Dumbledore that all-important question. > Richelle:- >I need to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure Harry asked the question, except >he asked Hagrid. Not the same thing to us, I know, but at least the >question is in there. Me now; Don't know whether anyone's already replied to this; I recently joined the main list and am overwhelmed by the enormous number of posts; posts from the Movie list are hidden among the masses, but anyway; I seem to recall that in the Harry/Hagrid conversation in the Leaky Cauldron, Harry asked 'Voldemort tried to kill me???'; IOW, did he, not *why* did he. That was the crucial question to Dumbledore. Regards, Nicholas From djs504 at lycos.com Fri Jun 27 21:13:33 2003 From: djs504 at lycos.com (DEBRA JO SMITH) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:13:33 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting- Charles Dance Message-ID: Charles Dance was in a mini series version of "The Phantom of the Opera on TV about 10-15 years ago, and was also one of the prisoners in the 3rd "Alien Movie". I hope that helps someone. Debby ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From irene_mikhlin at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 00:13:03 2003 From: irene_mikhlin at yahoo.com (irene_mikhlin) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 00:13:03 -0000 Subject: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "geri510" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > For Dolores Umbridge we've had Do I dare to nominate Judy Dench? I would spend an hour with that quill to see her act with Maggie Smith the career counselling scene and Ofsted (oops, inquisition) inspection scene. Irene From artsylynda at aol.com Sat Jun 28 01:21:17 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:21:17 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OOP: (definite) references to spoilers Message-ID: <15b.207aa73d.2c2e478d@aol.com> In a message dated 6/26/2003 4:35:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > I'd like to see DR play 15 yo James Potter, and handle > the difference in personality while looking the same. And who would play > young Sirius and Severus? > DR playing both parts would be GREAT! I hope they do that. If he's supposed to be so much like his dad (except the eyes, of course) there's no reason he couldn't play his dad at 15. Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sara1412au at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 08:53:05 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:53:05 -0000 Subject: Casting - Charles Dance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "harrysfannyc" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Audra1976 at a... wrote: > > My boyfriend was telling me about this British actor, Charles > Dance. He was > > the villain in "The Last Action Hero" and apparently was also > in "Gosford > > Park" (along with the entire population of Britain it seems). He > asked me if they > > could squeeze him into the Harry Potter movies as any character. > Anybody who > > knows of him, who do you think he could play? > > > > -Audra- > > > Me: O.K., here's his web site http://www.charlesdance.co.uk/ & I > think he should be in GoF (can't think of name of charactor - mind > blank, but others have suggested Cary Elews for this person, damn my > brain, was it Bagman??????). > > Fan From sara1412au at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 09:02:01 2003 From: sara1412au at yahoo.com (Sara_ELL) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:02:01 -0000 Subject: Casting - Charles Dance-SORRY! mis-post above (spoilers) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Whoops! Forgot to add my words of wisdom (or otherwise) before sending the message .. Charles Dance (as I recall) is fairly tall, thin & vaguely aristocratic... I could see him as a Death Eater quite easily - why not Augustus Rookwood? I was going to suggest Cedric Diggory's dad but he's more of a ruddy faced wizard in the book. Cary Elwes was my vision of Lockhardt and - throwing oil into the fire - until I see Gary Oldman as Sirius, I'll always imagine Dougray Scott as the character. BTW whoever's getting cast as Trewlany must be breathing a sigh of relief after reading OOP. I can easily imagine that her character would've been an easy choice for editing out of the new film but not any more! Sara From CariadMel at aol.com Sat Jun 28 14:27:30 2003 From: CariadMel at aol.com (Annette) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:27:30 -0000 Subject: Casting - Charles Dance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Sara_ELL" wrote: > Whoops! Forgot to add my words of wisdom (or otherwise) before > sending the message .. > > Charles Dance (as I recall) is fairly tall, thin & vaguely > aristocratic... I could see him as a Death Eater quite easily - why > not Augustus Rookwood? I was going to suggest Cedric Diggory's dad > but he's more of a ruddy faced wizard in the book. Cary Elwes was my > vision of Lockhardt and - throwing oil into the fire - until I see > Gary Oldman as Sirius, I'll always imagine Dougray Scott as the > character. > > > BTW whoever's getting cast as Trewlany must be breathing a sigh of > relief after reading OOP. I can easily imagine that her character > would've been an easy choice for editing out of the new film but not > any more! **************hello, newbie here, I love this thread of casting ideas for OOP. I agree Charles Dance will be a wonderful asset to the cast of ANY HP movie. He's a perfect English gentleman! who could also play a bad man to great effect. How about Patricia Routledge for Dolores Umbridge? The actress who plays the gawd-awful Hyacinth Bucket in the sit-com. I imagined her when reading the book, with that high pitched whiney voice and just the right amount of bombastic snobbery to carry it off. Luna Lovegood? I suppose Samnatha Janus would be too old, but someone of that ilk, maybe younger. As you can tell I'm a Brit. so sorry to anyone who doesn't have a clue who I am refering to in this post :-) Cheers ! > > Sara From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 21:26:53 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:26:53 -0000 Subject: Casting - Charles Dance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Annette" wrote: > **************hello, newbie here, I love this thread of casting ideas > for OOP. I agree Charles Dance will be a wonderful asset to the cast > of ANY HP movie. He's a perfect English gentleman! who could also > play a bad man to great effect. > How about Patricia Routledge for Dolores Umbridge? The actress who > plays the gawd-awful Hyacinth Bucket in the sit-com. I imagined her > when reading the book, with that high pitched whiney voice and just > the right amount of bombastic snobbery to carry it off. > Luna Lovegood? I suppose Samnatha Janus would be too old, but someone > of that ilk, maybe younger. > As you can tell I'm a Brit. so sorry to anyone who doesn't have a > clue who I am refering to in this post :-) > > Cheers ! Me: I also thought Patricia Routledge would be great for Umbridge. Just love her in 'Keeping up Appearances.' Welcome Fan > > > > Sara From xvaldivia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 21:31:14 2003 From: xvaldivia at yahoo.com (Ximena Valdivia) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:31:14 -0000 Subject: Who is direction GOF and others? Message-ID: Hi, I'm new so I don't know if this subject has been discussed in the past, so if it is I'm sorry I brough it up again. Well, we know Alfonso Cuaron is directing the third movie but Chirs Columbus often comes and go in the set to see how things are going right? If I remember corrrectly (and I could be wrong of course) didn't Columbus said that he might come back for GOF? Now, my question is, can he do that? I mean can he arrive after the third one saying that he wants to come back and leave Cuaron out? what if they like waht Cuaron did and want him for GOF? Well, so far none has seen what Cuaron's POA is going to look like but one of the reason why I want him to stay is because he has said that he want Dan, Rupert and Emma to do all the movies and not be replaced. From ninacdavis at juno.com Sat Jun 28 22:46:37 2003 From: ninacdavis at juno.com (Nina C Davis) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:46:37 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge Message-ID: <20030628.190226.1064.0.ninacdavis@juno.com> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 00:13:03 -0000 "irene_mikhlin" writes: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "geri510" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > For Dolores Umbridge we've had > Do I dare to nominate Judy Dench? > > I would spend an hour with that quill to see her act with Maggie Smith > the career counselling scene and Ofsted (oops, inquisition) inspection > scene. > > Irene Dame Judy could've *been* McGonnagal if Maggie Smith had turned it down. I don't mean Dench was asked, just that she could've played the role. I'd love to see hte two work together as well, but that eerie little girl quality is what sets Umbridge apart. I'll refrained from my rant about "british only" in the casting. For the principles, I understand. For these one-book roles, it's a bit much. Nevertheless, I'll suggest these two for Umbridge: Zelda Rubinstein or Kathy Bates. Bates is my second choice. Rubinstein -- of Poltergeist trilogy fame -- is Umbridge, imo. Short, round face and girly-voiced with an inate ability for mean n' evil. :) Nina From beckwith at zipworld.com.au Sun Jun 29 01:36:16 2003 From: beckwith at zipworld.com.au (F Nitschke) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:36:16 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: <20030628.190226.1064.0.ninacdavis@juno.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030629112411.020b98d0@mail.zip.com.au> > > > For Dolores Umbridge we've had > > > Do I dare to nominate Judy Dench? > > > > I would spend an hour with that quill to see her act with Maggie Smith > > the career counselling scene and Ofsted (oops, inquisition) inspection > > scene. > > > > Irene Hem, hem. I'll join you in detention for that one, Irene. But then, I'd probably pay to watch Dame Judy read aloud from the white pages. Someone else (sorry, so many posts flashing past, don't remember the name) made the excellent suggestion of Patsy Byrne, 'nursey' from the QEI instalment of Black Adder. I must admit that the high pitched 'girly' voice full of menace I heard in my head during Dolores Umbridge's scenes was that of QEI herself - Miranda Richardson. Judy, Patsy, or Miranda - well, they'd all terrify me in a fluffy cardie and with ickle-kitty plates on their office wall... The actor most vividly conjured by Tonks was Charlotte Coleman (Scarlett from 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' just in case any are uncertain). Sadly, apart from the fact that she'd be too old if she was still with us, this casting is an impossibility. Cheers, Fiona From rvotaw at i-55.com Sun Jun 29 03:25:05 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Who is direction GOF and others? Message-ID: <24241156.1056857105208.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Ximena Valdivia wrote: > Well, we know Alfonso Cuaron is directing the third movie but Chirs
> Columbus often comes and go in the set to see how things are going
> right? If I remember corrrectly (and I could be wrong of course)
> didn't Columbus said that he might come back for GOF? Now, my
> question is, can he do that? I mean can he arrive after the third one
> saying that he wants to come back and leave Cuaron out? what if they
> like waht Cuaron did and want him for GOF?
> Well, so far none has seen what Cuaron's POA is going to look like
> but one of the reason why I want him to stay is because he has said
> that he want Dan, Rupert and Emma to do all the movies and not be
> replaced.
So far we don't know who will direct GoF. However, most recently Chris Columbus has said he doesn't think he will want to direct it because it will probably be too soon, as they seem to be looking at going straight into filming GoF. However, I've got a hunch that he is also saying that because they might not want him back. Once he stepped down as director, it was open for anyone to take a try, and I personally think Alfonso Cuaron would have the better chance if PoA comes out good. I also can't understand why Chris Columbus seems to be the only person who seems to be discouraging the main kids from doing all the movies. I frankly don't think it's any of his business, it's between them and their parents. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Sun Jun 29 03:50:46 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:50:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030629112411.020b98d0@mail.zip.com.au> References: <20030628.190226.1064.0.ninacdavis@juno.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030628224921.00b928b8@mail.kriselda.net> F Nitschke recently mentioned: >The actor most vividly conjured by Tonks was Charlotte Coleman (Scarlett >from 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' just in case any are uncertain). Sadly, >apart from the fact that she'd be too old if she was still with us, this >casting is an impossibility. I'm only about 100 pages in so far, but for some reason, Tonks brings to mind Kate Winslett - specifically her performance in "Heavenly Creatures". That may change as I read more, but that's how she's appearing to me right now :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alexpie at aol.com Sun Jun 29 13:02:01 2003 From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:02:01 EDT Subject: Casting Umbridge Message-ID: <121.2396aad7.2c303d49@aol.com> The only person who came to mind for me is Prunella Scales. If you've seen any of her performance in the "Mapp and Lucia" series, you know that no one does "poisoned honey" quite as well! Ba [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From vdegroote at wi.rr.com Sun Jun 29 16:15:12 2003 From: vdegroote at wi.rr.com (Vicky D) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 11:15:12 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 621 References: <1056875358.366.29597.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <007901c33e59$9ec9c2a0$6601a8c0@FAMILY> > Kriselda Jarnsaxa >F Nitschke recently mentioned: >The actor most vividly conjured by Tonks was Charlotte Coleman (Scarlett >from 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' just in case any are uncertain). Sadly, >apart from the fact that she'd be too old if she was still with us, this >casting is an impossibility. >I'm only about 100 pages in so far, but for some reason, Tonks brings to >mind Kate Winslett - specifically her performance in "Heavenly >Creatures". That may change as I read more, but that's how she's appearing >to me right now :) ----Ok, me. Has anyone seen "Bend It Like Beckham"?!! Just saw it last night & recommend it to EVERYONE! But the reason I bring it up is of course, casting! The guy who plays Joe the football (soccer) coach is soooo Cedric Diggory! HOT HOT HOT! Just would hate to see him die. :~( I think his name was Jonatham Reys Miller or something like that. AND, the girl who plays Jules (short blonde hair, tall skinny, cute) would be great for Tonks & she won't even be too old by the time they film OoP! Unfortunately, the girl who plays the lead character (Jess) is already too old to play Parvati (& probably doesn't have a twin). Lots of great English talent in that movie to pick over for HP movies. ;~) BTW, any thoughts on Rita Skeeter? Being someone who works in public relations, that character intrigues me! Vicky From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Sun Jun 29 17:16:35 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:16:35 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 621 In-Reply-To: <007901c33e59$9ec9c2a0$6601a8c0@FAMILY> References: <1056875358.366.29597.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030629120442.00bb75a8@mail.kriselda.net> Vicky D recently mentioned: >----Ok, me. Has anyone seen "Bend It Like Beckham"?!! Just saw it last >night & recommend it to EVERYONE! But the reason I bring it up is of >course, casting! The guy who plays Joe the football (soccer) coach is soooo >Cedric Diggory! HOT HOT HOT! Just would hate to see him die. :~( I think >his name was Jonatham Reys Miller or something like that. Jonathan Rhys-Meyers, and yes, he is INCREDIBLY hot. It's kind of funny that you'd have him in mind for Cedric because Cedric is, for a wizard, a fairly "normal" kid, and most of JRM's roles have been ANYTHING but normal. Before Bend it Like Beckham, most of his roles were villains - but not just your standard "bad-guy", but those kinds of villains who are both creepy and highly seductive, and probably more than just a little mad. (BTW: One of his most interesting roles is in "Velvet Goldmine", where he plays a bisexual rock star loosely based on David Bowie. Word of warning, though - in case you don't like nudity and such - there is a scene featuring full frontal male nudity (Ewan McGregor) and a lot of very sexual content (including a male-on-male kiss). If you don't mind that kind of stuff, though, it's a really interesting flick and some great performances all around.) > AND, the girl who >plays Jules (short blonde hair, tall skinny, cute) would be great for Tonks >& she won't even be too old by the time they film OoP! Unfortunately, the >girl who plays the lead character (Jess) is already too old to play Parvati >(& probably doesn't have a twin). Lots of great English talent in that >movie to pick over for HP movies. ;~) Kiera Knightly, who plays Jules, is playing the leading lady in this summer's "The Pirates of the Carribian", and the girl who played Jess (I forgot her name) is going to be on ER next season :) >BTW, any thoughts on Rita Skeeter? Being someone who works in public >relations, that character intrigues me! She's a hard one to figure out just because she's SO obnoxious. Someone mentioned Eddie Izzard as a possiblity once, and I have to say that's just stuck in my head. He really would do a great job with it, I think. As for actual women to play the part, though, I dunno. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jazmyn at pacificpuma.com Sun Jun 29 20:29:55 2003 From: jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (jazmyn) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:29:55 -0500 Subject: Casting Tonks References: <20030628.190226.1064.0.ninacdavis@juno.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20030628224921.00b928b8@mail.kriselda.net> Message-ID: <3EFF4C43.3070406@pacificpuma.com> How about Cindi Lauper for Tonks? She used to be in Pro Wresting and still looks young enough. In fact, when reading the book, I pictured her as Cindi Lauper. Girls just wanna have fun, even Aurors. Jazmyn From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 22:44:22 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:44:22 -0000 Subject: OotP movie question Message-ID: OK, if JKR is asked for advice about the screenplay why didn't she make sure that they mention the warning that Harry received from the M.O.M. in CoS, especially since this is mentioned in the new book. I know they haven't even thought of writing it yet but wouldn't it be something that should have been left in for the flow of the movies. This of course will come into play in PoA when Harry does magic on Aunt Marge & he worries about been expelled from Hogwarts. As a viewer (one who hasn't read the books) how are you to know what is going on & why Harry is worried about this. Fan From mhuber92211 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 23:25:05 2003 From: mhuber92211 at yahoo.com (Matt Huber) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OotP movie question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030629232505.97303.qmail@web14512.mail.yahoo.com> ummm...isn't it explained with Hagrid when Harry learns that he is a wizard. "Not supposed to do magic outside of Hogwarts". That Running gag is seen throughout the opening hour of SS. I think that is more then enough to set up PoA, which then sets up the following films. harrysfannyc wrote: OK, if JKR is asked for advice about the screenplay why didn't she make sure that they mention the warning that Harry received from the M.O.M. in CoS, especially since this is mentioned in the new book. I know they haven't even thought of writing it yet but wouldn't it be something that should have been left in for the flow of the movies. This of course will come into play in PoA when Harry does magic on Aunt Marge & he worries about been expelled from Hogwarts. As a viewer (one who hasn't read the books) how are you to know what is going on & why Harry is worried about this. Fan Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 23:30:02 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:30:02 -0000 Subject: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: <20030629232505.97303.qmail@web14512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Matt Huber wrote: > ummm...isn't it explained with Hagrid when Harry learns that he is a wizard. "Not supposed to do magic outside of Hogwarts". That Running gag is seen throughout the opening hour of SS. I think that is more then enough to set up PoA, which then sets up the following films. > Me again: I understand what you're saying but wasn't that scene when Hagrid is on the island with Harry & the Dursley & he lights the fire - He says that but he doesn't tell Harry that magic is not allowed, I know one can assume that it's thrown out there for the view to understand (well I don't think it is). Fan From rvotaw at i-55.com Sun Jun 29 23:30:39 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:30:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OotP movie question References: <20030629232505.97303.qmail@web14512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <027401c33e96$741fbf40$9fa1cdd1@RVotaw> harrysfannyc wrote: > OK, if JKR is asked for advice about the screenplay why didn't > she make sure that they mention the warning that Harry > received from the M.O.M. in CoS, especially since this is > mentioned in the new book. Well, Harry did tell Hedwig "I can't let you out, I'm not allowed to use magic away from Hogwarts" in CoS. And I'm sure they can mention enough in passing to make sure it's all clear by the time we get to OoP. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From harrysfannyc at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 23:32:33 2003 From: harrysfannyc at yahoo.com (harrysfannyc) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:32:33 -0000 Subject: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: <027401c33e96$741fbf40$9fa1cdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Richelle Votaw" > > Well, Harry did tell Hedwig "I can't let you out, I'm not allowed to use magic away from Hogwarts" in CoS. And I'm sure they can mention enough in passing to make sure it's all clear by the time we get to OoP. > > Richelle > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Thanks Richelle that helps. From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Sun Jun 29 23:39:15 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030629233915.25750.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Richelle wrote: <> And I (Odile) add: At the very end of PS/SS, when Harry is saying goodbye to Hagrid on the train platform, Hagrid suggests that Harry threaten "that dolt of a cousin with a nice pair of ears to go with that tail of his" and Harry reminds him that they're not allowed to use magic outside of Hogwarts. From WFeuchter at msn.com Mon Jun 30 04:17:58 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 04:17:58 -0000 Subject: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: <20030629233915.25750.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > And I (Odile) add: > At the very end of PS/SS, when Harry is saying goodbye > to Hagrid on the train platform, Hagrid suggests that > Harry threaten "that dolt of a cousin with a nice pair > of ears to go with that tail of his" and Harry reminds > him that they're not allowed to use magic outside of Hogwarts. All well and good, but Harry never did magic outside of Hogwarts it was Dolby. Hence the non readers will wonder when he did this magic. Bill From alexpie at aol.com Mon Jun 30 09:38:52 2003 From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:38:52 EDT Subject: Diggory Message-ID: <77.1455bcc4.2c315f2c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/30/03 4:32:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > The guy who plays Joe the football (soccer) coach is soooo > Cedric Diggory! HOT HOT HOT! >>Jonatham Reys Miller Jonathan Rhys Meyers is way too old to play a seventeen year old. Hotness is not necessarily the sole--or any, for some parts--requirement. Ba [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Jun 30 15:19:21 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:19:21 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] who is directing GoF and others? Message-ID: <7c.3ac8f6fb.2c31aef9@aol.com> In a message dated 6/29/2003 4:30:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > I also can't understand why Chris Columbus seems to be the only person who > seems to be discouraging the main kids from doing all the movies. I frankly > > don't think it's any of his business, it's between them and their parents. > > Richelle > I believe it's because of his experience with Macauley Culkin of "Home Alone" -- Macauley went through typical child star bad behavior, like Drew Barrymore, doing things that were not healthy like going to adult-type parties, drinking, becoming a loser in many ways, and ruining his life for a long time. Drew came out of it okay, miraculously enough. Macauley still acts oddly, so it seems, in his personal life. Well, I suppose Drew may too in some ways, but she's successful and seems happy, while Mac doesn't. But both of those kids came from broken homes (well, Mac's broke up while he was a kid, while Drew's folks were divorced before she did "E.T." as I recall). So anyway, I think he's hoping to keep the HP kids from turning into Mac clones. But given that they are still acting like normal kids in so many ways, being goofy and not acting like tiny adults in interviews (Dan is mature, but not acting like he's 30 years old, either), I think they've got a better chance. And the Brits may treat celebs differently than Americans, I don't know. Hopefully, all the trio's parents are intelligent enough to make the trio still do their homework and chores and go to "normal" parties (although I read somewhere that Emma had already been to a party where there was underage drinking, but who knows if it was "good" reporting or not?) rather than going to night clubs, etc., when they're still so young, as Drew did, drinking and doing drugs and all that even as a pre-teen, yikes. Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Jun 30 15:21:12 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:21:12 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting Dolores Umbridge Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/2003 4:30:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > Subject: Re: Re: OoP: Casting Dolores Umbridge > > > Cast Hillary Clinton as Dolores Umbridge. Oh wait, that would be > type-casting. > > (evil grin) > > Jazmyn This is so funny, I had to copy it to my husband and daughter -- but then, since they won't read the books (neither is interested in fantasy -- they like hard sci-fi, spy books, political thrillers, etc.), I had to do so much explaining to show them why it was so funny. . .anyway, I hope they get as much of a kick out of it as I did! Great one! LOL! Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thorswitch at thunderhaven.net Mon Jun 30 19:52:01 2003 From: thorswitch at thunderhaven.net (Kriselda Jarnsaxa) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:52:01 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: References: <20030629233915.25750.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030630144540.00b8f3c0@mail.kriselda.net> hpoldfan recently mentioned: > > > > And I (Odile) add: > > At the very end of PS/SS, when Harry is saying goodbye > > to Hagrid on the train platform, Hagrid suggests that > > Harry threaten "that dolt of a cousin with a nice pair > > of ears to go with that tail of his" and Harry reminds > > him that they're not allowed to use magic outside of Hogwarts. > >All well and good, but Harry never did magic outside of Hogwarts it >was Dolby. Hence the non readers will wonder when he did this magic. They can probably take care of it with a brief exchange - something like this maybe: An owl arrives with the 2nd reprimand for Harry for using magic outside Hogwarts. He reads the message with Ron and Hermione reading over his shoulder. As they get done, Hermionie says "A SECOND reprimand? But Harry, when did you get reprimanded before? I don't recall you mentioning it?". Harry scowls a bit and then says "Oh, that. When Dobby showed up at my house to try and warn me away from returning last year, he used magic. The Ministry thought it was me, and gave me a reprimand for it." Or something to that effect - it takes about 5, maybe 10 seconds to do, clears the matter up and off we go with the story.... Kriselda [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu Mon Jun 30 22:30:45 2003 From: rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu (susanbones2003) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:30:45 -0000 Subject: GoF kids movie? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Anne" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan" wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > --- Sara wrote: > > > I'm honestly still wondering how on earth they're going to be > able > > > to make a "G or PG" rated film out of GOF, given the last scenes > > in > > > the book (with dismemberment, Cedric's death & very unpleasant > > > people in masks threatening Harry). > > > > > > Me too, and I think that's especially true for an American > audience. > > Men hiding their identity by wearing hoods, so that they can scare, > > torture, and kill those they consider of subhuman blood has a more > > recent history here in the Klu Klux Klan. That will be extremely > > difficult to tackle in a kids movie. > > > > Yes, this is a very large problem with the way Warner Brothers has > positioned this series. They bought the rights (I assume) without > knowing exactly what JKR would write in the next 6 books, just as > none of us who read PS/SS could know what she would write. Now that > they are seeing (I hope against all hope they are actually reading > OotP now) exactly how dark this series is becoming, I bet the Big > Enchiladas there are scratching their heads and saying, "holy beeping > beep, there's no way we can continue to market this as a kids' > series." That's if they are honest with themselves and have any > interest in maintaining the integrity of the story. However, if they > continue to use Steve Kloves as the screen writer (IF they manage to > get past GoF) I foresee these movies being horribly dumbed down and > sanitized, rather than facing up to the angsty issues involved with > Voldy's return and Angry!Harry. I'm not really looking forward to the > movie adaptation of OotP... it could be scarily bad... > > Anne U > (who thinks Dan Radcliffe COULD play Angry!Harry...he's not even 14 > yet, his hormones haven't kicked into high gear... but since he's > such a basically decent and well-adjusted kid, it might be a severe > stretch) Hi, Sorry to be posting this so late. Been in the other list and it's still hectic there. But what I wanted to say was how in the Sam Hill will OOP be a movie? It doesn't seem to have the beginning, middle, end type of thing Warner would like it to. It's inconclusive, lots of things are up in the air, it's not funny much of the time, in fact, it's got far too much shouting for a normal movie!! Apologies if this part has been brought up. Never mind the "darkness" of it. It is a different book all together. Not neat or tidy and very little warmth. What's a huge conglomerate movie company to do? Jennifer (used to be JenD but am metamophosing) From tmarends at yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 22:43:15 2003 From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:43:15 -0000 Subject: OotP movie question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "hpoldfan" wrote: > > > > And I (Odile) add: > > At the very end of PS/SS, when Harry is saying goodbye > > to Hagrid on the train platform, Hagrid suggests that > > Harry threaten "that dolt of a cousin with a nice pair > > of ears to go with that tail of his" and Harry reminds > > him that they're not allowed to use magic outside of Hogwarts. > > All well and good, but Harry never did magic outside of Hogwarts it > was Dolby. Hence the non readers will wonder when he did this magic. > > Bill That can easily be fixed in the OOP movie by the sending of the Owls (chapter 2), the first message would say that he violated the order and should expect someone to come for his wand. It doesn't need to say that this was his second violation. The fact that he does a Patronus should be strong enough magic to register the complaint in the first place. Tim From suzloua at hotmail.com Sun Jun 29 21:44:01 2003 From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 22:44:01 +0100 Subject: Casting OoP Message-ID: Kirstini was casting OoP and she thought: Tonks - Emily Watson (see above). Me: Hmmm. I like Emily Watson a lot, but I haven't seen anything where she's being English - she always seems to be doing an American accent. Kirstini: Charlotte Coleman from Four Weddings would be *perfect*, but unfortunately died last year. Me: God. Charlotte Coleman would have been amazing. Scarlett just *is* Tonks. Not to go off into that, but her death was tragic (for those who don't know, she committed suicide). She was a great actress. Kirstini: Sorry for butting in, but I'm hiding from the main list at the moment as it scares me. Me: LOL ditto. I went away for the weekend, and I've got 45 posts from the main list. Each of those are digests. So that's 25 messages in each. Gah!! Susan who also wandered around singing Blame Canada after she saw South Park the movie. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Help me Jebus!" --Homer Simpson "Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you!" --Ross Geller "Oh yeah, and did I mention I've got a baby?" --Stuart Alan Jones "You know, I telephoned my grandparents the other day, and my grandfather said to me, 'We saw your movie.' 'Which one?' I said, and he shouted, 'Betty, what was the name of that movie I didn't like?'" --Brad Pitt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From suzloua at hotmail.com Mon Jun 30 17:26:22 2003 From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:26:22 +0100 Subject: Keira Knightley (Was Casting OoP) Message-ID: Vicky D wrote: AND, the girl who plays Jules [in Bend It Like Beckham] (short blonde hair, tall skinny, cute) would be great for Tonks & she won't even be too old by the time they film OoP! I add: Actually, this isn't the first time I've heard Keira Knightley's name in relation to HP. She's a bit of a rising star in the UK - was in The Hole, which I believe hasn't been released in cinemas yet in the US? She is also in Love Actually, the directorial debut of Richard Curtis, released this summer and looks set to be the new Notting Hill/Four Weddings (despite the inclusion of Martine McCutcheon...) and popped up in Episode I as one of Natalie Portman's handmaids. Anyway, when I've heard her mentioned before, it's been in reference to Fleur! She's blonde, British, and very very pretty - I once saw a pic of her that was amazingly Veelaesque. If anyone wants to see her Fleur credentials, her character in The Hole, Frankie, is extremely Fleur-like (in one storyline, anyway - can't really say much more without ruining that movie, which is very good). For those of you who don't know what she looks like, I'd imagine a search engine, particularly if you search for Pirates of the Caribbean, will bring up loads of pics. She's the secret love child of Natalie Portman and Winona Ryder, but blonde. Susan ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "Help me Jebus!" --Homer Simpson "Shame on you! Ugly baby judges you!" --Ross Geller "Oh yeah, and did I mention I've got a baby?" --Stuart Alan Jones "You know, I telephoned my grandparents the other day, and my grandfather said to me, 'We saw your movie.' 'Which one?' I said, and he shouted, 'Betty, what was the name of that movie I didn't like?'" --Brad Pitt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]