Wood/Quidditch

[Steve]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, GulPlum <hp at p...> wrote:
> I'm not quoting anyone. Just putting my oar in with a few thoughts...
> 
> ...very big edit...
> 
> Wood's drive for the Gryffindor team to win can easily be
> transferred to Ron (and the Twins). They're already around, they 
> have more of a connection with Harry than movie!Wood has ever had, 
> and their interest in the sport, and Gryffindor's status against 
> Slytherin, has already been established.
> 

bboy_mn:

I'm inclined to agree with you about Oliver's Quidditch obsession
being transferred to Ron, or at least I hope it's transferred to Ron.
Given how they butchered his part in CoS, or at least weenied it out
substantially, it might help put some substance back into Ron's role. 

To some extent, I think we have to trust the Director's vision. He
does have a lot to squeeze into one movie; there is the Aunt Marge
subplot, the Quidditch subplot including Oliver, the
Nimbus/Firebolt/confiscation subplot, the Scabbers subplot, the
Dementors subplot, the Lupin subplot, and others that I'm sure I
missed (divinations, petronus, Grim, good old Malfoy, Snape, The MAP,
 Cho, time travel, Hagrid & Buckbeak, ...). That's too much to fit
into any movie. 

So the director has to concentrate on the main plot which is Sirius
Black. The problem is that all these subplots help lay the ground
work, and establish motivations and relationships for the main plot. 

Which brings me to my main complaint about the two existing movies,
they jump from scene to scene so quickly that no background, no
motivation, not relationship, or emotional tension is established;
nothing is allowed to develop. It's just, 'better look fast because
we're moving on to the next scene right now'. 

This TV pace and editing mean that rather than develop the story, we
get stuck with brief pauses where huge gaps in the story are covered
by a few quick lines of dialog. This is also what creates the 'Harry
the SuperHero' persona that GulPlum complained about. The movie is in
such a hurry to get to the next scene that there is no time for Harry
to ponder or wonder or analyse or struggle with any mystery. In an
somewhat exagerated way, Harry becomes a cartoon Sherlock Holms; Harry
and Ron walk down the hallway, suddenly everything is miraculously
clear, "Ron, I get it... yada yada yada" suddenly he has all the
answers and we are rushed off to the next scene. Very little time for
drama, mystery, or suspense. More importantly, very little time for
struggle. This underlying struggle on every front of Harry's life is
what establishes his character, both our sense of his fictional
character, and out sense of his moral character.

If the new director has to compromise some of the subplots and merge
characters in order to put some mystery, suspense, and drama back into
the movies then I will be more than happy. I do, however, think I will
be disappointed if the running time isn't closer to 3 hrs which is
something I've always complained about. You need time to build
suspense and establish an emotional mood for a scene. Hopefully,
between less story and more time, the Director will be able to
accomplish this.

I want to give the Director the benefit of the doubt, but I confess
myself worried. There are no retakes once the movie is release. When
it's done, it's done forever. 
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> 
> --
> GulPlum AKA Richard, who is getting just a little tired of the moaning.


Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn