[HPFGU-Movie] The Importance of Being Flint (was Re: No Quidditch??)

[LeeMunLim03 at aol.com]

In a message dated 3/25/03 9:29:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
suzloua at hotmail.com writes:

> 
> 
> I wrote:
> And as far as Flint being cut goes - who cares? If we can't save Wood, do 
> you 
> really think we'll save Flint? And do we even really want to?
> 
> Kyle replied:
> Why have flint!  Well then why have Hermoine, Ron, Draco, Harry, Dudley, 
> Vernon, Petunia, Snape!  My question why not have Wood and Flint!  Its 
> there 
> last year at least for Wood!  Why not just change all the cast! We really 
> don't want the same actors year after year!  Let someone else wear the 
> robes! 
> Its just a movie like Inspector Gagdet!  Gagdet part two want straight to 
> video and dvd by the way. 
> 
> And I say:
> OK, let's get a bit of perspective. How important is Marcus Flint? Well, 
> what do we know about him? He is the Slytherin Quidditch captain. He's very 
> stupid and got held back a year (or JKR made a boo-boo with her numbers - 
> hang on a sec, JKR screwing up with maths? Couldn't happen!!). And he and 
> Wood seem to be old enemies on the Quidditch field.


Okay first reponse:

No you really don't need Flint but why cut flint and the whole Quidditch 
scene if everybody loves it???  



> 
> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. 
> 
> While I admire your enthusiasm, Kyle, I must question your logic. The most 
> exciting thing about Marcus Flint is that his name has lent itself to an 
> acronym used on this fandom. (That's Flint-Like Inconsistencies Nitpicked 
> Triumphantly, for those who aren't aware) Is is really that important to 
> you to keep him in the movies? The boy has had a handful of mentions in 
> canon, almost all of them purely in the "Wood shook hands with the 
> Slytherin captain, Flint" vein. Wood, on the other hand, is one of Harry's 
> friends. He is mentioned in the common room, in Quidditch practices, in 
> Quidditch games, and even gets a brief cameo in GoF for no real reason 
> other than a nice goodbye. (Although I'm hoping he'll be back in OotP, I'm 
> not holding my breath) He is much more important to Harry, and therefore 
> more important to the canon.
> 
> Now let me try and decipher the rest of your post. Are you actually 
> suggesting that Marcus Flint is as important to the storyline as Harry 
> Potter? Or Hermione? Or Draco? Or any of the others you listed there? I'm 
> glad you're such a big Flintfan, but do you genuinely believe he's that 
> important to the story? I know I sure don't. I couldn't care less if we see 
> Flint again, in movie or print. I would've liked to see Wood, but the 
> decision has been made and there's not a huge amount of point bitching 
> about it now. (Like that's stopped us before... ;) )


Well why do you feel nothing can get done???  No we are not workers 
protesting pay for Harry Potter but on the other hand if we don't like 
something we well make it not air anymore!  Think Pee-Wee Playhouse.  You may 
say there is a difference but how??  We picketed and it left the air waves.  

> 
> "Why not just change all the cast! We really 
> don't want the same actors year after year!  Let someone else wear the 
> robes! "
> 
> Are you being sarcastic? No, I am being frustrated to no end!!  I'm afraid 
> you've lost me a bit here. Do you want the cast changing or not? No I don't 
> want the cast to change.  This isn't a question of someone else playing 
> Flint, it's a question of Flint's character being removed altogether. If 
> this is about the whole "will DR/RG/EW/TF etc stay on after PoA" thing, 
> then you have to remember that it's not in our hands. Well not nessecary 
> and why do you believe its not in our hands!  Although we can discuss 
> whether or not we'd like to see a new cast or keep the old one, we won't 
> get much of a choice; if Dan decides he doesn't want to be (how do we know 
> Dan or the rest havent been pigeonholed right now or Alan Rickman, Robbie 
> Coltrane etc, etc !!) pigeonholed as Harry forever, or Emma falls in love 
> and emigrates, or Rupert decides to concentrate on his exams rather than 
> his acting, or Tom decides to do something crazy like concentrate on his 
> fishing... 

Well if we as the audience really want the cast to stay the same then we can 
tell them they have to stay or we won't go see the film!  So you telling me 
and others if they (WB) revamp the whole cast then we the public should just 
accept it and go on???  When Sir Arthuer Conan Doyle Killed Holmes there was 
much protest and he brought him back to life for one last adventure. So I 
guess we should let Harry Potter be in the hands of Warner Brothers and we 
shouldnt have our voice heard becuase there going to do what they want 
regardless.  

> ~pauses, wonders where Felton is going to be fishing, considers cultivating 
> an interest in it herself~


Wonders why anybody would not want to at least do acting part time???  It 
does have it perks!  Why can't Felton do both???  Shakes head wondering why 
not live life to the fullest.

> 
> ~shakes self and continues~


Shakes head in disbelief that we can destroy a T.V series but not a movie!  I 
guess since Harry Potter is so big we just need to tuck our tails between our 
legs and not do anything? Right??  I hope Tom and all the cast can go behind 
harry potter but again acting is a fickle business!  

> 
> ...well, we can't stop them! Although I personally would love to see these 
> actors staying on, we can't insist that WB try and trap them into contracts 
> they can't get out of, particularly with the non-principal kids, who could 
> be doing other stuff (as was discussed recently with Devon Murray (I 
> think?) doing Artemis Fowl).

No we can't!!!  I do agree with you on that but on the other hand there is 
always ways to keep actors on board!  Ian Mckellan was shooting X-Man and 
Lord of the Rings at the same time!!  So Devon Murray could stay on doing 
both!  If he wants to!   


> 
> You ask why not just keep Wood and Flint, since it's Wood's last year 
> anyway. Well, as bboy_mn so eloquently listed, there are a whole lotta 
> subplots in PoA. It's only going to be a two to three hour movie - 
> something's gotta get cut. And I'd rather lose Quidditch and get a good 
> explanation from H&R in the hospital ward and get a excellent Shrieking 
> Shack and Time Turner rescue than a substandard Shack/Turner and a lot of 
> Quidditch (and as you may have picked up from other post, I am a major 
> affiliate of keeping bucketloads of Quidditch in Potter movies).
> 
> 
> And finally, you completely lost me in the last sentence, Kyle. I'm not 
> sure what the Inspector Gadget thing was about at all... 


Why is Inspector Gadget going straight to home viewing instead of being in 
theatres???  Why is The never ending story in home viewing if its such a good 
film??  They made 4 never ending storys!  Does anybody know about the 4th 
one???  Now they proably will make all 7 films but how good will it be if 
they recast everybody???  I am sure the Goblet will do good work but its not 
going to be the same without radcliffe being harry potter or the rest of the 
cast being there!  I am finding out people really don't care about the movies 
as much as they do about the books!  Do you really think your going to get 
the fans, old young, teen guys and girls if they keep doing what there doing 
to the movies of Harry Potter???   

> 
> 
> Susan
> wondering if Hermione knows any spells along the lines of "Go go gadget 
> alohomora..!"

Why do we have more desire to Destroy Pee-Wee's Play house but let the powers 
that be destroy Harry Potter or change it to their own interpretation of the 
books???  Why have the same cast for Lord of the Rings but not Harry 
Potter???  Why is that a problem???  Do you really think that Elijah Wood is 
going to go far in his career??  Like I said before the business of acting is 
a fickle business!  You never know if one or two of this actors from Harry 
Potter will be in a t.v series or another movie.  In all likely hood will any 
of this actors really be famous and be able to go on behind Harry Potter??  I 
don't think so unless they really disappear for awhile and come back!  But 
even then its diffcult!  Not impossiable but diffcult.


Kyle Longbottom 


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