CoS Script

Petra Pan ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com
Mon May 5 06:19:02 UTC 2003


Yours truly:
> Kloves does not use "Steven" for either 
> bylines or credits.  This is somewhat
> counter-intuitive, which is probably 
> why the forger made the error; after
> all, you would think that for the 
> record, on a title page, a writer
> would use a more formal name.  But
> note - he doesn't go by "Steven Kloves"
> in the credits either.  For all we 
> know, he's a "Stephen."

GulPlum, in part:
> As it happens, he is listed in several
> pre-HP, mainly post-Wonder Boys (Kloves's
> crowning glory as a screen writer)
> reference works as "Steven" rather that
> "Steve". It's clear that he uses both
> versions himself and it's not entirely
> beyond the realms of possibility that
> he prefers to use his full first name (as
> I do with mine). So that argument doesn't
> really hold water.

Surely you see this coming...but...I beg to 
differ.  <g>  Though you do bring up a good 
point - I spoke too rashly in saying that 
for all we know (I meant for all *I* knew) 
he's a "Stephen," when in fact he IS 
credited as Steven Kloves for his very first 
produced project. 

Since that post I've been to the video 
store and while there, looked up the other 
Kloves projects.  (Luckily for me, he 
hasn't been THAT busy.)  Only on his very 
first movie, Racing with the Moon, is 
Kloves credited as "Steven."  Every title 
since has his name spelled "Steve."

Since billing/credit blocks on VHS/DVD 
packaging are put together as specified 
by legally binding negotiations, and 
should correspond to the end credits, 
that's all I needed to confirm for myself 
my original impression that Kloves has 
settled on the less formal version of his 
name as his 'brand.'

I'm not sure what you mean by "reference 
works" and am curious to know if such 
works are written to the specifications of 
Kloves (or his legal representation).  
Referring to Kloves using "Steven" 
indicate to me research that's a bit 
behind the times of Fabulous Baker Boys, 
Flesh & Bone, Wonder Boys, HP SS and HP 
CoS...the VHS or DVD of which all credit 
him as "Steve."  Add to that is the fact 
that his byline for the HP SS script is 
"Steve Kloves," and IIRC, same goes for 
the "Wonder Boys" script.

<g>  Yes, this is a small mistake but one 
that Kloves is extremely unlikely to make 
on his own while at the same time, one 
that a less than diligent researcher may 
miss.  Though I must say, all the forger 
had to do was look at the VHS/DVD of the 
movie and there'd be one less reason to 
believe this script to be a product of 
reverse-engineering.

GulPlum, in part, later:
> Although I have my suspicions, I don't
> deny the possibility that at least some
> of this might be the genuine article, in
> which case most of the things I mentioned
> in my post last night are definitely
> Kloves's fault, although this still
> doesn't free Columbus from taking his
> fair share of the blame.

Out of curiosity, as opposed to desire to 
challenge your volitions, may I ask why 
you desire to assign faults and blames to 
specific *individuals* in regards to 
movies, which are products of *team* work?  
I confess myself puzzled...

Petra
a
n  :)

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