CoS Script
Petra Pan
ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com
Mon May 5 06:19:02 UTC 2003
Yours truly:
> Kloves does not use "Steven" for either
> bylines or credits. This is somewhat
> counter-intuitive, which is probably
> why the forger made the error; after
> all, you would think that for the
> record, on a title page, a writer
> would use a more formal name. But
> note - he doesn't go by "Steven Kloves"
> in the credits either. For all we
> know, he's a "Stephen."
GulPlum, in part:
> As it happens, he is listed in several
> pre-HP, mainly post-Wonder Boys (Kloves's
> crowning glory as a screen writer)
> reference works as "Steven" rather that
> "Steve". It's clear that he uses both
> versions himself and it's not entirely
> beyond the realms of possibility that
> he prefers to use his full first name (as
> I do with mine). So that argument doesn't
> really hold water.
Surely you see this coming...but...I beg to
differ. <g> Though you do bring up a good
point - I spoke too rashly in saying that
for all we know (I meant for all *I* knew)
he's a "Stephen," when in fact he IS
credited as Steven Kloves for his very first
produced project.
Since that post I've been to the video
store and while there, looked up the other
Kloves projects. (Luckily for me, he
hasn't been THAT busy.) Only on his very
first movie, Racing with the Moon, is
Kloves credited as "Steven." Every title
since has his name spelled "Steve."
Since billing/credit blocks on VHS/DVD
packaging are put together as specified
by legally binding negotiations, and
should correspond to the end credits,
that's all I needed to confirm for myself
my original impression that Kloves has
settled on the less formal version of his
name as his 'brand.'
I'm not sure what you mean by "reference
works" and am curious to know if such
works are written to the specifications of
Kloves (or his legal representation).
Referring to Kloves using "Steven"
indicate to me research that's a bit
behind the times of Fabulous Baker Boys,
Flesh & Bone, Wonder Boys, HP SS and HP
CoS...the VHS or DVD of which all credit
him as "Steve." Add to that is the fact
that his byline for the HP SS script is
"Steve Kloves," and IIRC, same goes for
the "Wonder Boys" script.
<g> Yes, this is a small mistake but one
that Kloves is extremely unlikely to make
on his own while at the same time, one
that a less than diligent researcher may
miss. Though I must say, all the forger
had to do was look at the VHS/DVD of the
movie and there'd be one less reason to
believe this script to be a product of
reverse-engineering.
GulPlum, in part, later:
> Although I have my suspicions, I don't
> deny the possibility that at least some
> of this might be the genuine article, in
> which case most of the things I mentioned
> in my post last night are definitely
> Kloves's fault, although this still
> doesn't free Columbus from taking his
> fair share of the blame.
Out of curiosity, as opposed to desire to
challenge your volitions, may I ask why
you desire to assign faults and blames to
specific *individuals* in regards to
movies, which are products of *team* work?
I confess myself puzzled...
Petra
a
n :)
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