From manda at qx.net Sat Nov 1 00:35:10 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:35:10 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer In-Reply-To: References: <001601c39f53$1609aa60$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: <3FA28F3E.27971.430FE8@localhost> On 31 Oct 2003 at 19:15, Marci wrote: > > I have to ask one question. Are you all certain that Looney is the > movie the POA trailer is attached to???? I could have sworn I heard > WB changed this and was adding it to The Last Samurai (not Matrix > Revolutions I think). Is my thinking wrong? Certainly these two > movies will draw a lot more attention than Looney (cuz it certainly > ain't no Roger Rabbit). Or did they not want to wait? A trailer can be connected to more than one movie. I imagine that PoA will be exclusively with "Looney Tunes" for a week or two before it'll be put on other movies. The CoS trailer was first connected to "Scooby Doo" so this "Looney Tunes" move isn't a surprise. I doubt it'll be on "Matrix Revolutions," at least at first, since it's both too early ("Matrix" is released on the 7th) and not a Warner Brothers film. "The Last Samurai" is Warner Brothers but it doesn't open until December, and the trailer will surely be on the internet by then. Amanda planning on ducking into the "Looney Tunes" theater on her way to see "Master and Commander" which opens the same day -- http://www.mandamia.com From tripchick at rogers.com Sat Nov 1 17:49:53 2003 From: tripchick at rogers.com (TripChick) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:49:53 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 740 In-Reply-To: <1067674703.445.74656.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 12:18 AM, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com wrote: > > If you're blessed with broadband like me another option is to sit back > and pray that the trailer will be released on the web. > > Even if it's not officially released it should be on kazza or the like > before Looney Toons is released, which reminds me I should check now. > it will end up on legal sites too, like apple.com (click on 'trailers'), but not until closer to the actual release date. > > PS, are trailers copywrited? yes, they are. Bear with me, I'm on digest, so the headers are all mixed up. Another poster asked: > I have to ask one question. Are you all certain that Looney is the > movie the POA trailer is attached to???? I could have sworn I heard > WB changed this and was adding it to The Last Samurai (not Matrix > Revolutions I think). Is my thinking wrong? Certainly these two > movies will draw a lot more attention than Looney (cuz it certainly > ain't no Roger Rabbit). Or did they not want to wait? it won't be Matrix OR Last Samurai because neither of those movies is geared towards children and/or a younger audience. Matrix was R rated was it not? They have to be careful to run same-rated trailers before movies. At least they do, here in Canada. While it's the opposite in this instance (the movie being R, the potential trailer being G or PG) they cannot run trailers for AA or R rated movies here before a G or PG rated film. The rating for the trailer can be no 'harsher' than the movie it's preceding. Similarly, the theatres rarely run less rated trailers before a harsher rated movie because the target demographic isn't in the audience anyway. Someone else wrote: >I am placing my bets that there will be a trailer during 'Brother Bear', which I an seeing anyways. this is definitely not going to happen. Brother Bear is a Disney studio picture, WB would never run trailers for a competitor's film. None of the studios does that unless they have some sort of reciprocal agreement. > ("Matrix" is released on the 7th) and not a Warner Brothers film. yes it is. Matrix is a WB film and it is the reason PoA was pushed back in the first place, they didn't want two blockbusters out at the same time. TripChick From HMaffioli at cox.net Sat Nov 1 22:20:55 2003 From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:20:55 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Casting Voldy in GoF References: Message-ID: <008201c3a0c6$6b0eb2c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Ohh Ohhh Ohhh My new favorit pick for Voldie! Richard O'Brian! Most of you know him as Riff Raff from Rocky Horror but he has done A LOT more than that. I was flipping chanels just know and came upon the D&D movie. He was also in Ever After. Heather [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 2 09:05:16 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 09:05:16 -0000 Subject: Casting Voldy in GoF In-Reply-To: <008201c3a0c6$6b0eb2c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Message-ID: Up until now at least Voldemort plays a very minor role in the story; he only appears once (I think) in each of GOF and OotP. These scenes are short spiteful exchanges and action scenes that should be easy to act out (I would say ARE easy to act but then I think back to who ever played Quirrell in PS, if the actor who plays Voldie is that bad I might never recover) Anyway my point is the actor will be chosen for what ever look the director thinks Voldie has and maybe not so much talent. Did I confuse you? I think I confused myself. "Dean" From mbouhon at noos.fr Mon Nov 3 16:09:01 2003 From: mbouhon at noos.fr (BOUHON Mathilde) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 03 16:09:01 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] preview of the trailer? Message-ID: Hmmm... I have had a look at this step-by-step "preview" of the PoA trailer, and it looks rather suspicious to me... I doubt it is a real description of what that trailer will look like. Although the HP trailers are often made with lots of cuts, I doubt there will be as many cuts in 1 min 26 of running time; besides, apart from the bit with the Knight Bus, nothing really sets the "mood" of PoA -as described, it could be almost a trailer for any HP movie... But anyway, it was fun to read. Can't wait to see the trailer with its usual off voice commenting and all that stuff that make the HP trailers so good! :) Mathilde, who still thinks we won't see Snape as Neville's gran *in the trailer* (I mean, come on, this is one of the best, funniest and most anticipated bits of PoA, they have to save the surprise for the movie itself! I, for one, would be really disappointed if it was in the trailer already) >>Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:31:15 -0500 >> From: "joj" >>Subject: preview of trailer? >> >>http://www.hpana.com/ >> >>They apparently have a step-by-step of the trailer. I >>don't know if it's real, but I'm still pretty excited. >>It would be awesome to see Snape-as-Neville's-granny in >>two weeks! >> >>Joj >> From WFeuchter at msn.com Mon Nov 3 15:36:18 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:36:18 -0000 Subject: preview of the trailer? Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "BOUHON Mathilde" wrote: > Hmmm... > I have had a look at this step-by-step "preview" of the PoA trailer, and it looks rather suspicious to me... I doubt it is a real description of what that trailer will look like. > Although the HP trailers are often made with lots of cuts, I doubt there will be as many cuts in 1 min 26 of running time; besides, apart from the bit with the Knight Bus, nothing really sets the "mood" of PoA -as described, it could be almost a trailer for any HP movie... > But anyway, it was fun to read. Can't wait to see the trailer with its usual off voice commenting and all that stuff that make the HP trailers so good! :) > Well we will have to wait to be sure, but remember they are still shooting the movie, and it is a long way from the final cut. I suspect it has to be just snippets at this point in time Bill From joj at rochester.rr.com Mon Nov 3 16:40:59 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:40:59 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] preview of the trailer? References: <200311031509.hA3F97t2002558@nymx02.mgw.rr.com> Message-ID: <000701c3a229$42e7eb40$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Hmmm... I have had a look at this step-by-step "preview" of the PoA trailer, and it looks rather suspicious to me... I doubt it is a real description of what that trailer will look like. Although the HP trailers are often made with lots of cuts, I doubt there will be as many cuts in 1 min 26 of running time; besides, apart from the bit with the Knight Bus, nothing really sets the "mood" of PoA -as described, it could be almost a trailer for any HP movie... But anyway, it was fun to read. Can't wait to see the trailer with its usual off voice commenting and all that stuff that make the HP trailers so good! :) Mathilde, who still thinks we won't see Snape as Neville's gran *in the trailer* (I mean, come on, this is one of the best, funniest and most anticipated bits of PoA, they have to save the surprise for the movie itself! I, for one, would be really disappointed if it was in the trailer already) ------------------------------------- I agree with you're whole post! I was wondering if the person who posted last week, who works in a movie theater could shed some light on this. (Sorry, don't remember your name) Would the trailer be on a VHS tape that they could take home? I find that hard to believe. I also agree about the Snape scene. It would wreck that part of the movie if we got to see the scene 7 months early. The impact of it would be lost. I would think the trailer would focus more on the action, darkness and emotions of this one, to try to show that it's a step up from the last two. Although, it would be good to show just the Dementor's hand, and not the whole Dementor. Joj, who's terribly excited anyways! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Tue Nov 4 08:35:58 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:35:58 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 740 References: Message-ID: <01aa01c3a2b2$3f45e710$69984cca@Monteith> Trip Chick > this is definitely not going to happen. Brother Bear is a Disney studio > picture, WB would never run trailers for a competitor's film. None of > the studios does that unless they have some sort of reciprocal > agreement. We saw the Trailer for Peter Pan (Warner) attached to Finding Nemo (Disney/Pixar)... Nox From carrollyr at ivillage.com Wed Nov 5 19:45:44 2003 From: carrollyr at ivillage.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:45:44 -0000 Subject: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sophia, I agree with Torill. If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. By the way, which picture is it? Could you reply back with a link to the picture or the page you saw it on? I'm really curious because I haven't seen too much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have missed the info about the trailer *grin*. Yolanda --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" wrote: > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people who > understand: > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and 2 on my > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch them) I > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player last night!" > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra material, > and of course, the > > movies." > > > > "I must say > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). Let's > keep in > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, including > myself, > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts on screen > that > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at home > with. I > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed with > delicious detail > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. Everything fits > together > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical environment > but yet > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some changes and > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing on Columbus' > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' original > vision will > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a terrific job." > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the films > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. But I > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, sorry. > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all honour. > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, because > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions about the > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the films. > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot on > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as films go? > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real talent at > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to think of the > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to play with > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And just the > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he chooses > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic of Dan > from the PoA > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but can I > really justify > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you people > now, > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly and rubs > hands > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > Sophia" > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age myself, but I > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of Dan or > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. Makes me wish > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with someone like > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad teenage > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I finally > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a letter and > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the pic you > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > Torill From carrollyr at ivillage.com Wed Nov 5 20:24:07 2003 From: carrollyr at ivillage.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:24:07 -0000 Subject: Trailer In-Reply-To: <3FA28F3E.27971.430FE8@localhost> Message-ID: I'm trying to decide how to see the trailer. > Amanda > planning on ducking into the "Looney Tunes" >theater on her way to see "Master and Commander" >which opens the same day > -- > http://www.mandamia.com I may have to do the same thing. There are a plenty of movies I'd like to see, but "Looney Toons: Back in Action" is not one of them. >From what I've seen so far, the movie looks awful. I know from others' comments that I'm not the only one who isn't impressed. I normally don't do "conspiracy theories", but I think it's kind of obvious why the POA trailer was put on this particular movie. It looks like it needs the help. Yolanda From helen at odegard.com Thu Nov 6 02:43:13 2003 From: helen at odegard.com (Helen R. Granberry) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:43:13 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00b101c3a40f$b9df4df0$6401a8c0@helenw1> I believe this is the one: http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansignedpic _oct2003.jpg I must also shamelessly admit that Dan gives me the warm fuzzies too. They didn?t look like that when I was his age. Helen -----Original Message----- From: yolandacarroll [mailto:carrollyr at ivillage.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:46 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic Sophia, I agree with Torill. If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. By the way, which picture is it? Could you reply back with a link to the picture or the page you saw it on? I'm really curious because I haven't seen too much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have missed the info about the trailer *grin*. Yolanda --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" wrote: > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people who > understand: > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and 2 on my > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch them) I > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player last night!" > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra material, > and of course, the > > movies." > > > > "I must say > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). Let's > keep in > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, including > myself, > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts on screen > that > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at home > with. I > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed with > delicious detail > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. Everything fits > together > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical environment > but yet > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some changes and > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing on Columbus' > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' original > vision will > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a terrific job." > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the films > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. But I > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, sorry. > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all honour. > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, because > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions about the > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the films. > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot on > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as films go? > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real talent at > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to think of the > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to play with > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And just the > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he chooses > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic of Dan > from the PoA > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but can I > really justify > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you people > now, > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly and rubs > hands > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > Sophia" > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age myself, but I > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of Dan or > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. Makes me wish > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with someone like > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad teenage > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I finally > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a letter and > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the pic you > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > Torill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From carrollyr at ivillage.com Thu Nov 6 04:32:04 2003 From: carrollyr at ivillage.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 04:32:04 -0000 Subject: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: <00b101c3a40f$b9df4df0$6401a8c0@helenw1> Message-ID: Ah yes that pic, I saw it last week for the first time. I might have to write in for one as well. Yes, I'm being a shameless copycat, but look at him. Yolanda --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Helen R. Granberry" wrote: > I believe this is the one: > > > > http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansignedp ic > _oct2003.jpg > > > > I must also shamelessly admit that Dan gives me the warm fuzzies too. > They didn't look like that when I was his age. > > > > Helen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yolandacarroll [mailto:carrollyr at i...] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:46 AM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic > > > > Sophia, > > I agree with Torill. > > If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. > > By the way, which picture is it? > > Could you reply back with a link to the picture > or the page you saw it on? > > I'm really curious because I haven't seen too > much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure > to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. > I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have > missed the info about the trailer *grin*. > > Yolanda > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" > wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" > wrote: > > > > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people who > > understand: > > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and 2 on > my > > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch them) > I > > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player last > night!" > > > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra material, > > and of course, the > > > movies." > > > > > > "I must say > > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). Let's > > keep in > > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, > including > > myself, > > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts on > screen > > that > > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at home > > with. I > > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed with > > delicious detail > > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. Everything fits > > together > > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical environment > > but yet > > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some > changes and > > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing on > Columbus' > > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' original > > vision will > > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a terrific > job." > > > > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the films > > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. But I > > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, sorry. > > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all honour. > > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, > because > > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions about > the > > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the films. > > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot on > > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as films > go? > > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real talent > at > > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to think of > the > > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to play with > > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And just the > > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he chooses > > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic of Dan > > from the PoA > > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but can I > > really justify > > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you > people > > now, > > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly and > rubs > > hands > > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > > > Sophia" > > > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age myself, > but I > > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of Dan or > > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. Makes me > wish > > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with someone like > > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad teenage > > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I finally > > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a letter and > > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the pic > you > > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > > > Torill > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > 020948:HM/A=1754451/R=0/SIG=11t8a5ls2/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default? mqs > o=60178323&partid=4116732> click here > > > > pmail/S=:HM/A=1754451/rand=862556285> > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary > material from posts to which you're replying! > > Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List > Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Thu Nov 6 16:55:44 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:55:44 -0000 Subject: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "yolandacarroll" wrote: > Ah yes that pic, > > I saw it last week for the first time. > > I might have to write in for one as well. > > Yes, I'm being a shameless copycat, but look at him. > > Yolanda Heh. Join the club. Sent my letter asking for one today.Newsletter by Dan should come with it as well.It's a FAQ list based on fan-mail.Got info at danradcliffe.co.uk. This site received a letter from Dan's father about it. You should be able to find it if you click on current events and scroll down. Sophia From swaine.t at xtra.co.nz Thu Nov 6 09:55:42 2003 From: swaine.t at xtra.co.nz (Tanya Swaine) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:55:42 +1300 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: References: <00b101c3a40f$b9df4df0$6401a8c0@helenw1> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20031106225458.00ac1be0@pop3.xtra.co.nz> Came back a page not found error, will try again later. Tanya At 04:32 6/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Helen R. Granberry" >wrote: > > I believe this is the one: > > > > > > > > >http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansignedp >ic > > _oct2003.jpg > > > > > > > > I must also shamelessly admit that Dan gives me the warm fuzzies >too. > > They didn't look like that when I was his age. > > > > > > > > Helen > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: yolandacarroll [mailto:carrollyr at i...] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:46 AM > > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic > > > > > > > > Sophia, > > > > I agree with Torill. > > > > If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. > > > > By the way, which picture is it? > > > > Could you reply back with a link to the picture > > or the page you saw it on? > > > > I'm really curious because I haven't seen too > > much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure > > to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. > > I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have > > missed the info about the trailer *grin*. > > > > Yolanda > > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" > > wrote: > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people who > > > understand: > > > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and 2 on > > my > > > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch >them) > > I > > > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player last > > night!" > > > > > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra >material, > > > and of course, the > > > > movies." > > > > > > > > "I must say > > > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). >Let's > > > keep in > > > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, > > including > > > myself, > > > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts on > > screen > > > that > > > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at home > > > with. I > > > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed with > > > delicious detail > > > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. Everything >fits > > > together > > > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical >environment > > > but yet > > > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some > > changes and > > > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing on > > Columbus' > > > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' >original > > > vision will > > > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a terrific > > job." > > > > > > > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the >films > > > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. But I > > > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, sorry. > > > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all >honour. > > > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, > > because > > > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions about > > the > > > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > > > > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the films. > > > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot on > > > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as films > > go? > > > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real >talent > > at > > > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to think of > > the > > > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to play >with > > > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And just >the > > > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he >chooses > > > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > > > > > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic of >Dan > > > from the PoA > > > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but >can I > > > really justify > > > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you > > people > > > now, > > > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly and > > rubs > > > hands > > > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > > > > > Sophia" > > > > > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age myself, > > but I > > > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of Dan >or > > > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. Makes me > > wish > > > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with someone >like > > > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad >teenage > > > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I >finally > > > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a letter >and > > > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the >pic > > you > > > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > > > > > Torill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From carrollyr at ivillage.com Thu Nov 6 20:13:05 2003 From: carrollyr at ivillage.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:13:05 -0000 Subject: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20031106225458.00ac1be0@pop3.xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Tanya, The link was incomplete. Below the link is the rest of it. I suggest you copy both parts of the link onto the address line. http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansignedp ic_oct2003.jpg. I did this and it worked. Yolanda --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Tanya Swaine wrote: > Came back a page not found error, will try again later. > > Tanya > > > At 04:32 6/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Helen R. Granberry" > >wrote: > > > I believe this is the one: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansigned p > >ic > > > _oct2003.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > I must also shamelessly admit that Dan gives me the warm fuzzies > >too. > > > They didn't look like that when I was his age. > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: yolandacarroll [mailto:carrollyr at i...] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:46 AM > > > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia, > > > > > > I agree with Torill. > > > > > > If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. > > > > > > By the way, which picture is it? > > > > > > Could you reply back with a link to the picture > > > or the page you saw it on? > > > > > > I'm really curious because I haven't seen too > > > much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure > > > to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. > > > I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have > > > missed the info about the trailer *grin*. > > > > > > Yolanda > > > > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" > > > wrote: > > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people who > > > > understand: > > > > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and 2 on > > > my > > > > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch > >them) > > > I > > > > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player last > > > night!" > > > > > > > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > > > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra > >material, > > > > and of course, the > > > > > movies." > > > > > > > > > > "I must say > > > > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). > >Let's > > > > keep in > > > > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, > > > including > > > > myself, > > > > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts on > > > screen > > > > that > > > > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at home > > > > with. I > > > > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed with > > > > delicious detail > > > > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. Everything > >fits > > > > together > > > > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical > >environment > > > > but yet > > > > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some > > > changes and > > > > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing on > > > Columbus' > > > > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' > >original > > > > vision will > > > > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a terrific > > > job." > > > > > > > > > > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the > >films > > > > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. But I > > > > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, sorry. > > > > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all > >honour. > > > > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, > > > because > > > > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions about > > > the > > > > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > > > > > > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the films. > > > > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot on > > > > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as films > > > go? > > > > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real > >talent > > > at > > > > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to think of > > > the > > > > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to play > >with > > > > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And just > >the > > > > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he > >chooses > > > > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic of > >Dan > > > > from the PoA > > > > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but > >can I > > > > really justify > > > > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you > > > people > > > > now, > > > > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly and > > > rubs > > > > hands > > > > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > > > > > > > Sophia" > > > > > > > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age myself, > > > but I > > > > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of Dan > >or > > > > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. Makes me > > > wish > > > > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with someone > >like > > > > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad > >teenage > > > > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I > >finally > > > > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a letter > >and > > > > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the > >pic > > > you > > > > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > > > > > > > Torill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > >05> > >020948:HM/A=1754451/R=0/SIG=11t8a5ls2/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default? > >mqs > > > o=60178323&partid=4116732> click here > > > > > > > > > > > > >M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou> > >pmail/S=:HM/A=1754451/rand=862556285> > > > > > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > > > > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > > > > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin > >Files! > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > > > > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary > > > material from posts to which you're replying! > > > > > > Any questions? Any problems? 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Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > >____________________________________________________________ > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From carrollyr at ivillage.com Thu Nov 6 20:15:47 2003 From: carrollyr at ivillage.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:15:47 -0000 Subject: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tanya, Below I copied the link so that you can see all of it. You'll have to copy both parts. This should help. http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/ albums/autographs/dansignedpic_oct2003.jpg. Yolanda --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "yolandacarroll" wrote: > Tanya, > > The link was incomplete. Below the link is the rest of it. > > I suggest you copy both parts of the link onto the address line. > > http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansignedp > ic_oct2003.jpg. I did this and it worked. > > Yolanda > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Tanya Swaine wrote: > > Came back a page not found error, will try again later. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > At 04:32 6/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > >--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Helen R. Granberry" > > > >wrote: > > > > I believe this is the one: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.radnetcafe.com/new_drgalleries/albums/autographs/dansigned > p > > >ic > > > > _oct2003.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must also shamelessly admit that Dan gives me the warm fuzzies > > >too. > > > > They didn't look like that when I was his age. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: yolandacarroll [mailto:carrollyr at i...] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Trailer/watching dvd/promo pic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia, > > > > > > > > I agree with Torill. > > > > > > > > If you want that pic, then I suggest you ask for one. > > > > > > > > By the way, which picture is it? > > > > > > > > Could you reply back with a link to the picture > > > > or the page you saw it on? > > > > > > > > I'm really curious because I haven't seen too > > > > much POA promo yet. I tried to limit my exposure > > > > to POA stuff, but lately I've found myself slipping. > > > > I'm glad though, because otherwise I would have > > > > missed the info about the trailer *grin*. > > > > > > > > Yolanda > > > > > > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "torillgrnhaug" > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >" BTW, just wanted to share a happy experience with people > who > > > > > understand: > > > > > > After spending months looking at the DVD-cases on HP 1 and > 2 on > > > > my > > > > > > bookshelf (I just had to have them even if I couldn't watch > > >them) > > > > I > > > > > was finally able to pop them into my brand new dvd-player > last > > > > night!" > > > > > > > > > > "Whoooo-hoooo! I had a > > > > > > terrific time finally, finally getting to see the extra > > >material, > > > > > and of course, the > > > > > > movies." > > > > > > > > > > > > "I must say > > > > > > that Columbus did a fantastic job (along with Stuart Craig). > > >Let's > > > > > keep in > > > > > > mind--in spite of the things some of us are unhappy about, > > > > including > > > > > myself, > > > > > > he did a remarkable feat in creating the world of Hogwarts > on > > > > screen > > > > > that > > > > > > many fans of the books can relate to, recognize and feel at > home > > > > > with. I > > > > > > found CoS particularly striking visually. It's just crammed > with > > > > > delicious detail > > > > > > everywhere, and creates a feeling of completeness. > Everything > > >fits > > > > > together > > > > > > from the sets to props to the costumes. It's a magical > > >environment > > > > > but yet > > > > > > tangible and believable. Though Cuaron will be making some > > > > changes and > > > > > > bringin his personal touches to Harry, he will be standing > on > > > > Columbus' > > > > > > shoulders. Though there will be changes, Chris Columbus' > > >original > > > > > vision will > > > > > > still be a part of it. I've changed my mind. He did a > terrific > > > > job." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those things you mention are just the things I think make the > > >films > > > > > worth seeing too, Sophia, along with the casting and acting. > But I > > > > > don't think it's enough to say Columbus did a terrific job, > sorry. > > > > > Stuart Craig did a terrific job, absolutely, he deserves all > > >honour. > > > > > And I'm willing to give Columbus some part in that honour too, > > > > because > > > > > I suppose he took part in all the discussions and decisions > about > > > > the > > > > > creation of the Hogwarts sets. I salute him for that!!! > > > > > > > > > > BUT- somehow this makes me even more disappointed about the > films. > > > > > With a terrific background like this, and such wonderful spot > on > > > > > casting - how could you make the films to be so mediocre as > films > > > > go? > > > > > When it all could have been just SO beautiful with a real > > >talent > > > > at > > > > > the helm? That's why my hopes are so high for Cuar?n, to > think of > > > > the > > > > > work he has done earlier and then imagine him let loose to > play > > >with > > > > > his creative camera in these wonderful surroundings!! (And > just > > >the > > > > > reason why I'm in for the biggest disappointment ever if he > > >chooses > > > > > this one to flop with - then you better run fast, Alfonso!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >" Can I also just say that I've just seen the new promo pic > of > > >Dan > > > > > from the PoA > > > > > > set? I'd really like one (hrm), I tought it was so nice, but > > >can I > > > > > really justify > > > > > > writing just to get one? (Who would know, though, except you > > > > people > > > > > now, > > > > > > but you don't really know who I am anyway....cackles madly > and > > > > rubs > > > > > hands > > > > > > in a sinister fashion.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia" > > > > > > > > > > Why not Sophia? I will soon approach the grandmother age > myself, > > > > but I > > > > > still get this warm fuzzy feeling when I look at pictures of > Dan > > >or > > > > > watch him in interviews. He is just too cute to be real. > Makes me > > > > wish > > > > > I had a son like him, or that I had fallen in love with > someone > > >like > > > > > him at the age of 14, when instead I was embarking on a sad > > >teenage > > > > > journy through a string of the most hopeless of dates till I > > >finally > > > > > learned what I needed. So you go for it girl, send him a > letter > > >and > > > > > get your pic, no harm in that is there? You just tell it's the > > >pic > > > > you > > > > > want, chances are he will never even read your letter anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Torill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > >05> > > > >020948:HM/A=1754451/R=0/SIG=11t8a5ls2/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default? > > >mqs > > > > o=60178323&partid=4116732> click here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou> > > >pmail/S=:HM/A=1754451/rand=862556285> > > > > > > > > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > > > > > > > WARNING! 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Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com Thu Nov 6 20:34:44 2003 From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:34:44 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics Message-ID: Found new PoA photos on http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news.shtm Harry http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg Trio http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg Draco http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter309.jpg Sirius http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter311.jpg Marianne From joj at rochester.rr.com Thu Nov 6 20:58:23 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:58:23 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new PoA pics References: Message-ID: <002c01c3a4a8$b7bb6b00$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Thanks! They look just like the description of the trailer! It must be real! Found new PoA photos on http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news.shtm Harry http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg Trio http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg Draco http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter309.jpg Sirius http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter311.jpg Marianne Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joj at rochester.rr.com Thu Nov 6 21:10:39 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:10:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new PoA pics References: Message-ID: <003f01c3a4aa$6e14ac30$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> There's one more http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter310.jpg Horseless carriages! I really love the look of these! So dark and artistic! Harry's probably watching everyone go to Hogsmede without him. He needs a hug! :-) Found new PoA photos on http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news.shtm Harry http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg Trio http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg Draco http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter309.jpg Sirius http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter311.jpg Marianne Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 6 21:21:10 2003 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:21:10 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 740 In-Reply-To: <01aa01c3a2b2$3f45e710$69984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, wrote: > Trip Chick > > this is definitely not going to happen. Brother Bear is a Disney studio > > picture, WB would never run trailers for a competitor's film. None of > > the studios does that unless they have some sort of reciprocal > > agreement. > > We saw the Trailer for Peter Pan (Warner) attached to Finding > Nemo (Disney/Pixar)... > > Nox ME: So did I. I also remember seeing a great Monsters Inc. skit in front of Sorcerer's Stone. I'd also swear there was a Finding Nemo 'tease' in front of Chamber of Secrets. Marci From jsummerill at summerillj.freeserve.co.uk Thu Nov 6 22:24:09 2003 From: jsummerill at summerillj.freeserve.co.uk (Joanne Summerill) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:24:09 -0000 Subject: Bats in PS/SS film Message-ID: <001001c3a4b4$b3294240$7912883e@oemcomputer> I read that JKR asked for a shot of a bat to be included in the PS/SS film. So have other people. However, no-one seems to know where they read it. Does anybody know where this quotation comes from? I checked the film specifically for bat references. The first one is in the Diagon Alley scene. There is a bat hanging upside down. It appears to be hanging between two shop signs. The first shop sign ends in the letters RY and the second shop sign starts with MAC. The next reference is when McGonagall takes Harry to meet Oliver Wood. She interrupts Quirrell's DADA lesson as he is saying the words "the vampire bat". Then there is a shot of Quirrell holding an iguana. There are bat shaped mobiles hanging in the classroom and there are two directly in front of and above Ian Hart on the right hand side of the shot. McGonagall then takes Wood outside and tells Wood that she has found him a Seeker. Meanwhile, offscreen and in the background, Ian Hart continues speaking, but some of his speech is drowned out. However, I've listened closely and I definitely caught the words "in a form of vampirism". Can anybody else make out exactly what he is saying? Does anybody know if there is a copy of the PS/SS script on the web so I could check the dialogue? Finally, what significance could be attached to all of these visual and verbal references to bats and vampires? JoTwo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From helen at odegard.com Thu Nov 6 23:07:42 2003 From: helen at odegard.com (Helen R. Granberry) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:07:42 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Bats in PS/SS film In-Reply-To: <001001c3a4b4$b3294240$7912883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <012901c3a4ba$c8d10640$6401a8c0@helenw1> >Finally, what significance could be attached to all of these visual and verbal references to bats and vampires? >JoTwo Well, Quirrel was supposed to be afraid of Vampires (explaining his bizarre behavior)... There is also the 'Vampire Snape' theory. Been quite a bit on that one on HP4GU. I think it is a possibility. I had not heard that JKR insisted on their being bats in PS/SS, though if she did, that would make me think that the bat/vampire thing was significant beyond Quirrel in PS/SS. Helen From scully931 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 03:37:38 2003 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 03:37:38 -0000 Subject: Digest Number 740 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, yes! I remember that Monster, Inc. trailer. That was the cleverest trailer I have ever seen. (Sully and Mike playing charades where the clue is "harry potter.") Seems like a strange agreement to have since both studios can benefit so much. > ME: > > So did I. I also remember seeing a great Monsters Inc. skit in front > of Sorcerer's Stone. I'd also swear there was a Finding Nemo 'tease' > in front of Chamber of Secrets. > > Marci From lunalovegood at shaw.ca Fri Nov 7 05:45:46 2003 From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (dan) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 05:45:46 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh my goodness, Draco looks so... so... uh... slashy? Surprised, actually, that the set still has that Columbussy taint... I mean, look... dan From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 08:32:56 2003 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:32:56 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics - Confused. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marianne" wrote: > Found new PoA photos on http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news.shtm > > Harry > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg > > ...edited.. > > Marianne bboy_mn: What is that first photo suppose to be of, and how does it fit in the POA plot? It looks more like it belongs in Order of the Phoenix as the Death Chamber Arch. The only problem with that is, it's appears to be outside. Certainly can be the Shrieking Shack; well it could, I just don't see how thought. I guess it could be the castle courtyard where student hang out between classes, but we've already seen that a couple of times, and this doesn't look like it. Anyone care to speculate on the significants and location shown in this image? bboy_mn From poohnpotterfan at aol.com Fri Nov 7 10:55:13 2003 From: poohnpotterfan at aol.com (poohnpotterfan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:55:13 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics - Confused. Message-ID: <7d.40c57789.2cdcd411@aol.com> I think it might be after everyone goes to Hogsmeade? Maybe instead of having Harry just stay in the dormitory, he goes & watches them all leave? And then Hedwig comes to him, because that's what it looks like to me. I could be totally wrong of course! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eowynn_24 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 7 14:18:02 2003 From: eowynn_24 at yahoo.com (eowynn_24) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:18:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics - Confused. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031107141802.67957.qmail@web60207.mail.yahoo.com> Steve wrote: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marianne" wrote: > Found new PoA photos on http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news.shtm > > Harry > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg > > ...edited.. > > Marianne bboy_mn: What is that first photo suppose to be of, and how does it fit in the POA plot? Certainly can be the Shrieking Shack; well it could, I just don't see how thought. I guess it could be the castle courtyard where student hang out between classes, but we've already seen that a couple of times, and this doesn't look like it. Anyone care to speculate on the significants and location shown in this image? bboy_mn now Eowynn: I have seen the inside of the building at the back of the photo in another photo. In the picture McGonigal, the trio, and I believe the Malfoy gang are all in it. I will try to find the pic again, unless someone knows where it is. Anyways we are looking at the school, I just don't know exactly which part. It might state it in the sub-text of the photo if I can find it. Eowynn --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 7 15:15:25 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:15:25 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics - Confused. References: Message-ID: <004901c3a541$f98c88e0$47e579a5@rick> > bboy_mn: > > What is that first photo suppose to be of, and how does it fit in the > POA plot? > > It looks more like it belongs in Order of the Phoenix as the Death > Chamber Arch. The only problem with that is, it's appears to be outside. Iggy here: If you look at it closely, it appears to be a fountain in a courtyard. Not only does the base structure suggest this, but the statue in the middle with what looks to be a stream of water falling from it does as well. Iggy McSnurd (who's mother majored in photography, so he has picked up on how to spot minute details in pictures...) From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Fri Nov 7 15:23:51 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:23:51 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "dan" wrote: > Oh my goodness, Draco looks so... so... uh... slashy? > > Surprised, actually, that the set still has that Columbussy taint... > I mean, look... > > dan Eh? Enlighten me please. What does "slashy" mean in this context? (Does it have anything to do with the fan-fic term slash? If so, I *really* son't get it.) I like the fringe. I prefer this look to the slicked-back hair Columbus gave him. That hairdo had a certain charm in a fairy-talish, stereotype-way. The new Draco feels more contemporary, belonging to the real world rather than a story-book-nasty-kid-villain. Me like. What's the Columbussy taint? Too sugarcoated, too magical? I'd love to hear your views. Of course Columbus is bound to be felt in this movie too--he's the producer and many of the sets are the same as in PS/CoS, so we will see some continuity in that department. Still, there will also be many new sets and Cuaron will have waved his wand over them to give them his personal brand of magic...Besides, even the old sets could be made to seem quite different with ligthing and how the filmings done. BTW, that pic of Marge inflating was rather gruesome, I thought. It just looked a tad to "real," particularly the way her skin flushes and bulges at the throat. I guess I never really imagined in detail how it would actually look if someone was inflated--and in a few months I won't have to, apparently. I'll see it for myself...Do you know what I'm trying to say? I guess I saw the scene as a cartoon bit, with her inflating like a baloon, but just like a baloon, not lika human being. Cuaron wants matter-of-fact magic. (Which is a good thing, since that's one of the things that makes Rowling's books so special: the matter-of-fact-ness of the fantastical in the WW) Also, Steve had a question about the pic of Harry in the courtyard. I agree with whoever said that it could be from when Harry is left behind on a Hogsmeade weekend. Even though it's an unfamiliar set, Cuaron may have decided that the courtyart should look different from the way it looked before. On the other hand, a castle of Hogwart's size must have several smaller courtyards, so this is just a diiferent one from where we've been previously. Is there any possibility though that this is part of Hogsmeade? I recall there was mention on the net about a sun dial garden set in Hogsmeade. However, Hogsmeade is a village, so maybe it wouldn'g feature anything as grand as the courtyard in the pic. Perharps it's more likely to be Hogwarts. Loooove the horseless carriages. Instantly made me think of the invisible thestrals pulling them although they won't be introduced for another two movies. BTW isn't this extremely early to release even a teaser-trailer? I know we want it as badly as someone parched would like a drimk of water, but it still seem awfully early. The premiere is still over six months away! Or is is just because the two previous movies were released in Nov, and WB wants to soothe us now that we have to wait until June? Sophia From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 7 15:31:44 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:31:44 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new PoA pics References: Message-ID: <005c01c3a544$40f0fc00$47e579a5@rick> Iggy here: > Harry > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter307.jpg This appears to be a fountain in a courtyard of Hogwarts. > > Trio > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg I can't see Ron in there anywhere. The person next to Harry appears to be Lupin. (They are probably on their way down to the "testing grounds" to take their DADA final... > > Draco > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter309.jpg I have no idea what "slashy" means in reference to soeone. It almost looks to me like ther got a different actor to portray Draco... although I know they didn't. Looks like sometime when he was playing up getting his arm slashed by Buckbeak. (Does anyone know where in the book it tells about him playing with an oragami swan in class though?) The link for image number 10 in the links appears to have been omitted. It's a rather nice picture of the "horseless" carriages travelling up the road to Hogwarts from Hogsmeade. > > Sirius > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter311.jpg > *grin* Gary Oldman almost looks more like Tommy Chong in this picture. Looks like the dementors, or someone else spent some time torturing him. (Or, where would he have gotten those bloody marks on his body.) I must admit that I never thought of the cells in Azkaban as actually having windows at all, what with so many people like Rita Skeeter possibly being able to change into flying bugs, bats, or birds. (From Sirius's description in the book, he still could have escaped in the manner he did.) I know that the Dementors can overwhelm your mind most of the time... but if they're not there, couldn't an experienced Animagus change with little thought. (I imagine MacGonagall to be like this, with the speed with which they always show her changing form...) Iggy McSnurd From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Fri Nov 7 15:44:52 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:44:52 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: <005c01c3a544$40f0fc00$47e579a5@rick> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Iggy McSnurd" wrote: > Iggy here: > > Trio > > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg > > I can't see Ron in there anywhere. The person next to Harry appears to be > Lupin. (They are probably on their way down to the "testing grounds" to > take their DADA final... No Ron? But he's right there, walking ahead of Harry down the stone steps. Are you saying that's Lupin? Or am I looking at the wrong pic? Sophia From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 7 15:55:03 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:55:03 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics References: Message-ID: <00b301c3a547$82c7d060$47e579a5@rick> > > > Trio > > > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg > > > > I can't see Ron in there anywhere. The person next to Harry appears to > be > > Lupin. (They are probably on their way down to the "testing grounds" to > > take their DADA final... > > No Ron? But he's right there, walking ahead of Harry down the stone steps. > Are you saying that's Lupin? Or am I looking at the wrong pic? > > Sophia Iggy here: Yes, I am saying that it's not Ron. There's the pouch and the book, not to mention that he's too tall to be Ron. Also, his hair is light blond or gray, not red like Ron's. Also, looking at the picture very closely, the hairstyle is too different, and his body is bulkier than Ron's. Iggy McSnurd From siskiou at earthlink.net Fri Nov 7 17:01:27 2003 From: siskiou at earthlink.net (Susanne) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:01:27 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: <00b301c3a547$82c7d060$47e579a5@rick> References: <00b301c3a547$82c7d060$47e579a5@rick> Message-ID: <117249763846.20031107090127@earthlink.net> Hi, Friday, November 07, 2003, 7:55:03 AM, coyoteschild at peoplepc.com wrote: > Yes, I am saying that it's not Ron. > There's the pouch and the book, not to mention that he's too tall to > be Ron. > Also, his hair is light blond or gray, not red like Ron's. > Also, looking at the picture very closely, the hairstyle is too > different, > and his body is bulkier than Ron's. Rupert Grint had shot up quite a bit since the last movie and his hair style has changed. I'm convinced that's "Ron" in the picture, and on my computer screen the hair looks reddish, not blond or grey. He is carrying a binder or books under his left arm, which makes his body appear bulkier, but it's really not. With robes it's hard to tell in any case ;) -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Fri Nov 7 18:23:19 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:23:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics References: <00b301c3a547$82c7d060$47e579a5@rick> <117249763846.20031107090127@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001101c3a55c$3a761fa0$cdee79a5@rick> > Rupert Grint had shot up quite a bit since the last movie > and his hair style has changed. > > I'm convinced that's "Ron" in the picture, and on my > computer screen the hair looks reddish, not blond or grey. > > He is carrying a binder or books under his left arm, which > makes his body appear bulkier, but it's really not. With > robes it's hard to tell in any case ;) > > -- > Best regards, > Susanne mailto:siskiou at earthlink.net > Iggy here: *grin* Why don't we just agree that it has the potential to be either Ron or Lupin... Iggy McSnurd From WFeuchter at msn.com Fri Nov 7 19:18:24 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:18:24 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: <001101c3a55c$3a761fa0$cdee79a5@rick> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Iggy McSnurd" wrote: > > > Rupert Grint had shot up quite a bit since the last movie > > and his hair style has changed. > > > > I'm convinced that's "Ron" in the picture, and on my > > computer screen the hair looks reddish, not blond or grey. > > > > He is carrying a binder or books under his left arm, which > > makes his body appear bulkier, but it's really not. With > > robes it's hard to tell in any case ;) > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Susanne mailto:siskiou at e... > > > > Iggy here I think if you go back a few months there was a fan picture of the same scene. The picture is not from the movie, but is of the cast taking a break at the end of the shooting. In the fan picture you can easily see that it is "Ron". Bill > > *grin* Why don't we just agree that it has the potential to be either Ron or > Lupin... > > > Iggy McSnurd From carla68 at adelphia.net Fri Nov 7 19:16:01 2003 From: carla68 at adelphia.net (basilhummus) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:16:01 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sophis wrote: > BTW, that pic of Marge inflating was rather gruesome, I thought. It just > looked a tad to "real," particularly the way her skin flushes and bulges at > the throat. I guess I never really imagined in detail how it would actually > look if someone was inflated--and in a few months I won't have to, > apparently. I'll see it for myself...Do you know what I'm trying to say? I guess > I saw the scene as a cartoon bit, with her inflating like a baloon, but just like > a baloon, not lika human being. Cuaron wants matter-of-fact magic. (Which > is a good thing, since that's one of the things that makes Rowling's books > so special: the matter-of-fact-ness of the fantastical in the WW) --------------------- Could you direct me to this picture? Thanks, ~Carla From joj at rochester.rr.com Fri Nov 7 20:49:45 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (coolbeans3131) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:49:45 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sophis wrote: > > > BTW, that pic of Marge inflating was rather gruesome, I thought. ----------------------------------------- > Could you direct me to this picture? > Thanks, > ~Carla http://www.hpana.com/news.cfm? nids=17659_scans_of_poa_pics_from_usa_today 5 more pictures. Aunt Marge seems to be outside, floating up to the heavens. Maybe she gets stuck in a tree? Joj From joj at rochester.rr.com Fri Nov 7 21:01:28 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (coolbeans3131) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0000 Subject: new PoA pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > http://www.hpana.com/news.cfm? > nids=17659_scans_of_poa_pics_from_usa_today > > 5 more pictures. > > Aunt Marge seems to be outside, floating up to the heavens. Maybe > she gets stuck in a tree? > > Joj Sorry, this should work better. http://tinyurl.com/u4a9 From amani at charter.net Sat Nov 8 05:57:44 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:57:44 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new PoA pics References: <00b301c3a547$82c7d060$47e579a5@rick> Message-ID: <004901c3a5bd$3b69d760$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> > > > Trio > > > http://www.thezreview.co.uk/images2/harrypotter308.jpg > > > > I can't see Ron in there anywhere. The person next to Harry appears to > be > > Lupin. (They are probably on their way down to the "testing grounds" to > > take their DADA final... > > No Ron? But he's right there, walking ahead of Harry down the stone steps. > Are you saying that's Lupin? Or am I looking at the wrong pic? > > Sophia Iggy here: Yes, I am saying that it's not Ron. There's the pouch and the book, not to mention that he's too tall to be Ron. Also, his hair is light blond or gray, not red like Ron's. Also, looking at the picture very closely, the hairstyle is too different, and his body is bulkier than Ron's. Taryn: *peers at the pic* But why would Lupin be wearing the Hogwarts student uniform? ---------- Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Sat Nov 8 16:18:22 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:18:22 -0000 Subject: finding pics Message-ID: Just thought I'd give some general advice on finding pics that turn up in discussion on here: Since new PoA pics are bound to pop up every now and then, and you'll hear about them on the list, don't sweat it! Just go to www.the-leaky-cauldron.org, if they're new, there's bound to be a link to them among the news, or go to www.mugglenet.com--that site's pretty much on top of things as well. Also, www.digicasey.com specializes in posting pictures related to Harry&Co that turn up. Sophia From joj at rochester.rr.com Sat Nov 8 17:22:54 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:22:54 -0500 Subject: Snape/Trio pic Message-ID: <000801c3a61c$f2123340$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> I have a question about this pic http://tinyurl.com/u7a5 The caption says Snape is protecting the trio from a werewolf. Huh? First off, it doesn't look like nighttime. Second, he's supposed to be unconscious! That will change the plot quite a bit, won't it? Any one have any ideas? Joj, who does love the picture [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dkewpie at pacbell.net Sat Nov 8 17:45:06 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:45:06 -0000 Subject: Snape/Trio pic In-Reply-To: <000801c3a61c$f2123340$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joj" wrote: > I have a question about this pic > http://tinyurl.com/u7a5 > > The caption says Snape is protecting the trio from a werewolf. > > Huh? First off, it doesn't look like nighttime. Second, he's supposed to be unconscious! That will change the plot quite a bit, won't it? > > Any one have any ideas? > This is only my guess, but probably they change that Snape didn't go into the sheirking shack, he confronted Lupin+Sirius+trio+Peter when they step outside of the shack. So he tie up Lupin right there (because Lupin is oh-so-dangerous) and refuse to listen. Then Lupin transform, break the ropes, Snape tried to protect the trio, but the werewolf knock him out. I think if the film follow exactly like the book it'll be really boring and not cinematic enough. There's just too many "talking" and "explaining" from Lupin, then the awkward pause in between by Snape (he came in, knock out, drag out..), then Lupin speak again, then they reveal Peter....I mean, that'll be a bad script if they did exactly that. These all works well in the book, but definitely not on film. So I think they move the part where Snape came in with the invisibility clock, and had him confront the crowd when they step outside of the shack. From joj at rochester.rr.com Sat Nov 8 18:03:13 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 13:03:13 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Snape/Trio pic References: Message-ID: <000a01c3a622$942fdf10$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> From: Kewpie This is only my guess, but probably they change that Snape didn't go into the sheirking shack, he confronted Lupin+Sirius+trio+Peter when they step outside of the shack. So he tie up Lupin right there (because Lupin is oh-so-dangerous) and refuse to listen. Then Lupin transform, break the ropes, Snape tried to protect the trio, but the werewolf knock him out. I think if the film follow exactly like the book it'll be really boring and not cinematic enough. There's just too many "talking" and "explaining" from Lupin, then the awkward pause in between by Snape (he came in, knock out, drag out..), then Lupin speak again, then they reveal Peter....I mean, that'll be a bad script if they did exactly that. These all works well in the book, but definitely not on film. So I think they move the part where Snape came in with the invisibility clock, and had him confront the crowd when they step outside of the shack. You're probably right. The important part is that Snape not overhear all the conversation in the shack. I was looking forward to Snape unveiling himself from the invisibility cloak in the shack though. Oh well, I'm all for them changing things to make the movie run more smoothly, as long as they are in the spirit of the book. Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Nov 8 18:30:32 2003 From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:30:32 -0000 Subject: Snape/Trio pic In-Reply-To: <000801c3a61c$f2123340$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joj" wrote: > I have a question about this pic > http://tinyurl.com/u7a5 > > The caption says Snape is protecting the trio from a werewolf. > > Huh? First off, it doesn't look like nighttime. Second, he's supposed to be unconscious! That will change the plot quite a bit, won't it? > > Any one have any ideas? > > Joj, who does love the picture > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] What I liked about the caption was "Snape is a complex character" amen to that. The whole of that plot sequence is going to be really difficult to to - just look at all the internet stuff that's been posted already - even the Lexicon has an entire timeline devoted to it - so I think there's a mega challenge for the film makers. Nice to see Snape looking heroic too. June From katydid3500 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 8 22:26:29 2003 From: katydid3500 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Wolber) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:26:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Werewolf??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031108222629.47199.qmail@web40506.mail.yahoo.com> Is anyone else annoyed that Lupin is being called a werewolf? I mean, that was one of the secrets of the book. I think it's a little disappointing to know that it's not a secret in the movie. This is one things that I'd like to see unfold in the movie. Or, the movie could do it right, but some press person at Warner Bros. might have said it, or someone at a newpaper might have thrown it in...I guess we'll just have to wait until June to find out. ~Kathryn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Sun Nov 9 00:33:47 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (odilefalaise) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:33:47 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I haven't seen this referenced yet, but did you guys take a close look at the "wanted" poster? http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/11/usatoday-siri us.jpg Sirius is holding a sign bearing what I presume is his Prisoner ID number. The first two symbols are the runes "gifu" (its symbol looks like the letter X) and "algiz" (it looks like a capital letter Y with an extra line in the middle.) Gifu is the rune of exchange - my friends and I call Christmas "gifumas" (heh heh, aren't we clever). It is used as the letter G. Algiz is the gateway to the divine realms - it is the symbol of the Rainbow Bridge that leads to the upper three worlds (where the gods and others dwell). When it is pointing downwards, it is used to indicate death - strangely, in the 1960s, it was the downwards representation (in a circle) that was used as the famous peace sign! Algiz is used for the letter Z. Also, someone mentioned in a comment on the Leaky Cauldron that these runes were among Sirius's tattoos (seen in the picture that Warner Brothers asked to be taken down.) My friend and I were just trying to hash out why these two particular runes were chosen for a supposedly dangerous and evil criminal. Maybe a heavenly reward awaits the person who catches him? Then why are they part of his prisoner ID? I'm thinking they were chosen randomly. I'm also thinking that Curaon et al. didn't count on real witches scrutinizing their symbolism. And I'm thinking that I am probably thinking too much. What are you thinking? Odile >^_^< From patientx3 at aol.com Sun Nov 9 06:06:29 2003 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:06:29 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Werewolf??? Message-ID: <3C96D86E.1952D7F7.02725BB8@aol.com> In a message dated 11/8/2003 5:26:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, katydid3500 at yahoo.com writes: > Is anyone else annoyed that Lupin is being called a > werewolf? That's been bothering me as well, not EVERYONE out there has read the books, and its one of the big 'surprises' at the end (I've also seen at least one article make some reference to Sirius possibly being innocent). I doubt that its not a secret in the movie...unless its known to the AUDIENCE but not the characters (but what would be the point of that?). -Rebecca From sydpad at yahoo.com Sun Nov 9 06:39:46 2003 From: sydpad at yahoo.com (Sydney) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 06:39:46 -0000 Subject: Snape/Trio pic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Joj wrote: > > The caption says Snape is protecting the trio from a werewolf. > > > > Huh? First off, it doesn't look like nighttime. Second, he's > supposed to be unconscious! That will change the plot quite a bit, > won't it? > > > > Any one have any ideas? > > > > Joj, who does love the picture > > I love the picture too, but there's already an insta-theory circulating, that this is from Snape's heroic version of events that he gave to Fudge. I hate this idea (as if that scene isn't already long enough without flashbacks! and can't anyone cut Snape some slack?), but the very theatrical posing would seem to bear this out. On the other hand, are those demontors approaching from the lower left, or just deep shadows? On the other other hand, I guess we'll just have to wait! Oh, the nightime thing, two ideas: -- they could be shooting day-for-night, it's not very common anymore though and you'd think they'd adjust the levels for the trailer; OR -- more likely, they're covering up for Rowling's moonlight gaffe by having the scene take place at dusk. Sydney, quivering with anticipation but ready to leap to Snape's defence if Cuaron isn't fair to him! From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 9 08:34:48 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:34:48 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "odilefalaise" wrote: I found slightly different means for the runes. "Gifu represents the ability to sacrifice, to give without expecting anything in return" "Algiz is a very important rune for many things, and mayby most of all protection. It represents the animal kingdom." This somes up Sirus very well after the events of book five. This has got me very interested does anyone know if there are any references to runes the the previous films. Dean > Hi Everyone, > > I haven't seen this referenced yet, but did you guys take a close > look at the "wanted" poster? > > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/11/usatoday-siri > us.jpg > > Sirius is holding a sign bearing what I presume is his Prisoner > ID number. The first two symbols are the runes "gifu" (its symbol > looks like the letter X) and "algiz" (it looks like a capital letter Y > with an extra line in the middle.) > > Gifu is the rune of exchange - my friends and I call Christmas > "gifumas" (heh heh, aren't we clever). It is used as the letter G. > > Algiz is the gateway to the divine realms - it is the symbol of the > Rainbow Bridge that leads to the upper three worlds (where the > gods and others dwell). When it is pointing downwards, it is > used to indicate death - strangely, in the 1960s, it was the > downwards representation (in a circle) that was used as the > famous peace sign! Algiz is used for the letter Z. > > Also, someone mentioned in a comment on the Leaky Cauldron > that these runes were among Sirius's tattoos (seen in the picture > that Warner Brothers asked to be taken down.) > > My friend and I were just trying to hash out why these two > particular runes were chosen for a supposedly dangerous and > evil criminal. Maybe a heavenly reward awaits the person who > catches him? Then why are they part of his prisoner ID? > > I'm thinking they were chosen randomly. I'm also thinking that > Curaon et al. didn't count on real witches scrutinizing their > symbolism. And I'm thinking that I am probably thinking too > much. What are you thinking? > > Odile >^_^< From odilefalaise at yahoo.com Sun Nov 9 15:30:08 2003 From: odilefalaise at yahoo.com (Odile Falaise) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:30:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031109153008.4838.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> --- Dean wrote: > I found slightly different means for the runes. > > "Gifu represents the ability to sacrifice, to give > without expecting > anything in return" > > "Algiz is a very important rune for many things, and > mayby most of > all protection. It represents the animal kingdom." > > This somes up Sirus very well after the events of > book five. Odile again: Erm, that's interesting. Indeed, Gifu can be interpreted in that way, although its traditional sense is one of exchange - "...a gift demands a gift..." as it says in the Havamal - hence the X shape, where the two lines are of equal length. However, I have never known Algiz to be interpreted in that way; I have never seen it associated with the Animal Kingdom. Where did you find that reference? And what stumps me is that yes, these two runes are in his *prisoner ID*, i.e., the folks at *Azkaban* assigned them to Sirius - why would they use runes with positive connotations? It's not like they would be obscure to the Wizards and Witches of the Potterverse. > > This has got me very interested does anyone know if > there are any > references to runes the the previous films. > > Dean I haven't caught any... just passing references in the books. Unless you want to revisit the old debate as to the shape of Harry's scar: Eiwaz? Or Sowulo? in which case you might want to have a look at messages 81951 and 81960 over at the Harry Potter for GrownUps archive. ^_^ Odile From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 11 04:05:54 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:05:54 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: <20031109153008.4838.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Runes have almost unlimited meaning and i chose the ones that best suit sirus. Still after the events of book 5 i think thats its very unlikely that the director choose the runes by accident. I know the animal kingdom is not the usual meaning for Algiz but i found it on this site http://www.multiart.nu/grimner/english/texts/readingrunes.html#algiz and i thought that it was to good to pass up (animagi and all) I've never heard that meaning anywhere else either. The site also says about algiz "It represents inner strength, being in contact with all the animal forces within and without." Now thats a description of an animagai if i ever heard one. There probably wont be any references to runes in previous potter film due to the new director but maby its somthing to keep an eye out for in the future. Maby we will get to see Barty jnr or Malfoy's number in future films. About Azkaban assigning sirus the runes maby they used some magical means to do so? Or maby its not his prision number but some form of wizard ID number chosen or assigned when they leave school. Dean > Odile again: > > Erm, that's interesting. Indeed, Gifu can be > interpreted in that way, although its traditional > sense is one of exchange - "...a gift demands a > gift..." as it says in the Havamal - hence the X > shape, where the two lines are of equal length. > > However, I have never known Algiz to be interpreted in > that way; I have never seen it associated with the > Animal Kingdom. Where did you find that reference? > > And what stumps me is that yes, these two runes are in > his *prisoner ID*, i.e., the folks at *Azkaban* > assigned them to Sirius - why would they use runes > with positive connotations? It's not like they would > be obscure to the Wizards and Witches of the > Potterverse. > > > I haven't caught any... just passing references in the > books. Unless you want to revisit the old debate as > to the shape of Harry's scar: Eiwaz? Or Sowulo? in > which case you might want to have a look at messages > 81951 and 81960 over at the Harry Potter for GrownUps > archive. ^_^ > > Odile From oneel at yahoo.com Tue Nov 11 06:54:06 2003 From: oneel at yahoo.com (Tania Canedo) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:54:06 -0000 Subject: POA's Trailler!!!! Message-ID: Hi everyone! This is a little reminder to everyone! Remember ("not that you need it, ey!"), POA's trailler will apear this Friday, in the new looney Toon's movie!!! And, if anyone here know's where will it be posted in the web later on, I'd LOVE to know!! Cheers! Tania From HMaffioli at cox.net Wed Nov 12 06:06:30 2003 From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:06:30 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] finding pics References: Message-ID: <006801c3a8e3$1e09b0e0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Another great site for finding pics as soon as they are available is www.hpana.com Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: sophiamcl To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] finding pics Just thought I'd give some general advice on finding pics that turn up in discussion on here: Since new PoA pics are bound to pop up every now and then, and you'll hear about them on the list, don't sweat it! Just go to www.the-leaky-cauldron.org, if they're new, there's bound to be a link to them among the news, or go to www.mugglenet.com--that site's pretty much on top of things as well. Also, www.digicasey.com specializes in posting pictures related to Harry&Co that turn up. Sophia Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 20:25:56 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:25:56 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Dean" wrote: > About Azkaban assigning sirus the runes maby they used some magical > means to do so? > Or maby its not his prision number but some form of wizard ID number > chosen or assigned when they leave school. > > Dean If they were assigned to him as he left school that too would be interesting, since no one, outside of the Marauders knew he was an animagi. Also if those runes were "randomly" chosen and assigned to him at some point (leaving school, entering Azkaban) it would be a cool coincedence. And lastly, he could have picked them himself as part of a "wizard ID", however since his animagi abilities are supposed to be a secret that wouldn't make much sense. Yolanda From joj at rochester.rr.com Wed Nov 12 21:20:26 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:20:26 -0500 Subject: The trailer is here!!!!! Message-ID: <003e01c3a962$caf29310$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ I liked it. It's quite different from the previous trailers. I'll have to watch it a few hundred more time to get it all though, so off I go. :-) Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 21:24:46 2003 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:24:46 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer on Extra too! Message-ID: Big thanks to HPANA for confirming that the official Prisoner of Azkaban trailer will feature tonight as a world premiere on ExtraTV. They have a local listings site for you to check when it airs in your region. Yes, this is the real thing. :) Tomorrow the same channel will also have an exclusive on set report which should prove to be as exciting as the trailer itself. Don't miss it! Incidentally, the trailer will also be available to download from harrypotter.com from 2:30amGMT/9:30pmEST today. --- End forwarded message --- From WFeuchter at msn.com Thu Nov 13 00:05:04 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:05:04 -0000 Subject: Trailer Message-ID: E! news Live has the teaser tonight 7 to 7:30 PM is first showing Bill From WFeuchter at msn.com Thu Nov 13 00:37:41 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:37:41 -0000 Subject: The Teaser Message-ID: Now we know why it is called a teaser! Aunt Marge, Knight Bus, Dementor Hand, Several of the trio, my they have grown up. Boggart as Snape, Black in his cell. June is so fare away!! Bill From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 00:44:02 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:44:02 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" wrote: > Big thanks to HPANA for confirming that the official Prisoner of > Azkaban trailer will feature tonight as a world premiere on ExtraTV. >Yes, this is the real thing. :) Someone (or several someones for that matter) please tape it *grin*. Yolanda From artmaiden28 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 01:18:36 2003 From: artmaiden28 at yahoo.com (Kathleen McClain) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113011836.45510.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> I caught tonight's edition of Extra and the showing of the trailer lasted only a few seconds and was not the entire trailer. They mentioned the report that will be on tomorrow night. However, I did find the trailer on themoviebox.net. Here is the URL: http://www.themoviebox.net/trailers/harrypotter3/. I have watched it several times now and I am puzzled by a couple of things. I think I need to re-read the book...again. Happily, of course. (I was planning on doing so before the movie comes out.) Is there a mention of a chorus singing Something Wicked This Way Comes? And why do four of them in the front hold what looks like large frogs? Just curious if anyone has any theories. I love the moving poster of Sirius! I am a huge Gary Oldman fan so I was very happy when he was cast for the role. Overall, I was very pleased with the trailer and now wish June would get here as quickly as possible! --- yolandacarroll wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" wrote: > > Big thanks to HPANA for confirming that the official Prisoner of > > Azkaban trailer will feature tonight as a world premiere on ExtraTV. > > >Yes, this is the real thing. :) > > Someone (or several someones for that matter) please tape it *grin*. > > > Yolanda > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From joj at rochester.rr.com Thu Nov 13 01:42:23 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:42:23 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! References: <20031113011836.45510.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c3a987$6275c3f0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen McClain I have watched it several times now and I am puzzled by a couple of things. I think I need to re-read the book...again. Happily, of course. (I was planning on doing so before the movie comes out.) Is there a mention of a chorus singing Something Wicked This Way Comes? And why do four of them in the front hold what looks like large frogs? Just curious if anyone has any theories. Overall, I was very pleased with the trailer and now wish June would get here as quickly as possible! Joj: The choir with frogs is the only thing I don't like about the trailer. It's not in the book, but looks like part of the movie, not something just done for the trailer. I do like that it's different though. There is lots of Snape in it. It's much too short too. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dkewpie at pacbell.net Thu Nov 13 01:47:16 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:47:16 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <20031113011836.45510.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Kathleen McClain > I have watched it several times now and I am puzzled by a couple of > things. I think I need to re-read the book...again. Happily, of course. (I > was planning on doing so before the movie comes out.) Is there a mention > of a chorus singing Something Wicked This Way Comes? And why do four of > them in the front hold what looks like large frogs? Just curious if anyone > has any theories. No need to doubt your memories of the book. The student choir, along with Draco's origami crane and their rings/tie-clips, plus a whole lot other things (student wearing "uniforms" in the film,for instance) are filmmakers' own input, which are artistic decisions to make the on-screen world richer with details. I don't understand some of the fans' mindset that they expect/demand every single element and details in the film must be slavishly lifted from the book.If they see something unfamiliar "I didn't remember that from the book" they get uncomfortable. Because in my case I'll be (usually) pleasantly surprise (if they're done within the spirit of JKR's world). These little artistic input only enchance the movie watching experience. As a fan who's expert on the books and not a purist, I'd like to see more imagination, something original done in the films (of course must made sense being part of JKR's world). In this case, to add a school choir is a pretty...reasonable decision that could only make the world richer. Maybe they're just footage filmed for the trailer alone, maybe they are in the actual...we don't know yet. But "something wicked this way comes" is a great concept to used in a trailer as a device that ties-in and pull together. This teaser is much much more conceptual and "designed" than the prevous ones (they were simply forgettable and predictable straightforward editing nice scenes together). Joan From artmaiden28 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 01:56:19 2003 From: artmaiden28 at yahoo.com (Kathleen McClain) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:56:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <003601c3a987$6275c3f0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: <20031113015619.14951.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> I didn't think the chorus and frogs were in the book. I couldn't remember for certain though. I did like it though. The singing sounded great. It looks as though Michael Gambon did very well, but I won't be totally convinced of him as Dumbledore until I see the entire movie. If even then. I really enjoyed the warm nature Richard Harris brought to the role. I hope that Michael Gambon does have this attribute while bringing a bit more vitality to the character. And the image of Snape dressed as Neville's grandmother was terrific! I think they did that transition wonderfully. I do agree that the trailer was to short, but I have been yearning for something for a while so I was pleased to see it no matter the length. --- joj wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathleen McClain > > > I have watched it several times now and I am puzzled by a couple of > things. I think I need to re-read the book...again. Happily, of > course. (I > was planning on doing so before the movie comes out.) Is there a > mention > of a chorus singing Something Wicked This Way Comes? And why do four > of > them in the front hold what looks like large frogs? Just curious if > anyone > has any theories. > > > Overall, I was very pleased with the trailer and now wish June would > get > here as quickly as possible! > > > > > Joj: > > The choir with frogs is the only thing I don't like about the trailer. > It's not in the book, but looks like part of the movie, not something > just done for the trailer. I do like that it's different though. There > is lots of Snape in it. It's much too short too. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From artmaiden28 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 02:22:53 2003 From: artmaiden28 at yahoo.com (Kathleen McClain) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:22:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113022253.24945.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the creativity the movies bring to the stories, but this creativity should remain within the general paths and spirit of the books. I was not upset or shocked by the aspects of the trailer that do not appear to be straight from the book. I was just seeking some affirmation that what I saw contained some things that is not in the book. I think the movie will be great and will not disappoint. At least not me. > No need to doubt your memories of the book. The student choir, along > with Draco's origami crane and their rings/tie-clips, plus a whole > lot other things (student wearing "uniforms" in the film,for > instance) are filmmakers' own input, which are artistic decisions to > make the on-screen world richer with details. I don't understand some > of the fans' mindset that they expect/demand every single element and > details in the film must be slavishly lifted from the book.If they > see something unfamiliar "I didn't remember that from the book" they > get uncomfortable. Because in my case I'll be (usually) pleasantly > surprise (if they're done within the spirit of JKR's world). These > little artistic input only enchance the movie watching experience. As > a fan who's expert on the books and not a purist, I'd like to see > more imagination, something original done in the films (of course > must made sense being part of JKR's world). In this case, to add a > school choir is a pretty...reasonable decision that could only make > the world richer. Maybe they're just footage filmed for the trailer > alone, maybe they are in the actual...we don't know yet. > But "something wicked this way comes" is a great concept to used in a > trailer as a device that ties-in and pull together. This teaser is > much much more conceptual and "designed" than the prevous ones (they > were simply forgettable and predictable straightforward editing nice > scenes together). > > Joan > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Thu Nov 13 02:31:05 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:31:05 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! References: <20031113022253.24945.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Iggy here: I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron site. Does anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd be willing to mail to me? (BTW: *PLEASE* don't just send it to me. Let me know on the list here first if you have it, and I'll contact one of you to send it... I work off of a phone line and it takes forever to download mails with large attachments... getting 10 people sending it to me would not only be hideous, but would lock up my mail until I could deal with it on a very cranky ISP web site... *cringe*) Thanks in advance to anyone willing to send this trailer to me. (In a .zip file would be best...) Iggy McSnurd From dkewpie at pacbell.net Thu Nov 13 02:40:40 2003 From: dkewpie at pacbell.net (Kewpie) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:40:40 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Iggy McSnurd" wrote: > Iggy here: > > I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to > download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron site. Does > anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd be > willing to mail to me? > Iggy, you can watch it here: http://www.themoviebox.net/trailers/harrypotter3/ (if it still doesn't work for you, there're other links too) Joan From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Thu Nov 13 02:41:53 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:41:53 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! References: <20031113022253.24945.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Message-ID: <019c01c3a98f$b4163e80$78984cca@Monteith> > Iggy here: > > I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to > download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron site. Does > anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd be > willing to mail to me? they're not working for me either . > > (BTW: *PLEASE* don't just send it to me. Let me know on the list here first > if you have it, and I'll contact one of you to send it... I work off of a > phone line and it takes forever to download mails with large attachments... > getting 10 people sending it to me would not only be hideous, but would lock > up my mail until I could deal with it on a very cranky ISP web site... > *cringe*) > > Thanks in advance to anyone willing to send this trailer to me. (In a .zip > file would be best...) Nox From illyana at mindspring.com Thu Nov 13 02:45:40 2003 From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:45:40 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> References: <20031113022253.24945.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Message-ID: <78325A26-1583-11D8-A706-003065B8B954@mindspring.com> > Iggy wrote: > > I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to > download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron > site.? Does > anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd be > willing to mail to me? Now Illyana: Neither of the WB links from the Leaky Cauldron work for me, either, but I managed to get the one from NYU to work. Did you only try the two WB links, or did you try the 5+ links that are now on TLC? I had to re-load the page a few times over the course of an hour before the extra links were added, so I wasn't sure if you had seen the newer links yet. Just trying to help! illyana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scully931 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 03:20:24 2003 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:20:24 -0000 Subject: song Message-ID: OOOOkay. I just now got that the song was "Double double toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble... something wicked this way comes." I think it sounds very cool. (Is that Flitwick conducting?) The only thing I can't figure out (well, not the ONLY thing, but one thing) is why would a choir at Hogwarts be singing "Something wicked this way comes." I mean, it's spooky, but they don't consider themselves spooky. And the witches from MacBeth were kind of stereotypical, not like Hogwarts. Anyway, anyone else have any thoughts on it? Looks neat anyway. Deborah From clshannon at aol.com Thu Nov 13 03:52:48 2003 From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:52:48 EST Subject: Trailer Message-ID: I watched both Extra and Access Hollywood tonight and AH is the better story. Extra had an abbreviated trailer, coming right out of a commercial break and if you blinked, you missed it. Hopefully, they will have the behind the scenes story tomorrow. Access Hollywood was a surprise though. I hadn't read that it was doing a story, but I had the tape ready in case ;-) They showed the trailer, complete with added commentary by the anchor where he mentioned how the kids have changed and they showed split screen shots of all three of them comparing the first movie to now. Pretty cute ;-) So far, Entertainment Tonight hasn't shown it, but I may have missed it due to watching AH - they are on at the same time around here. Whew, what a flurry of activity all of a sudden! It's great to see actual moving footage of the film though. As for the trailer - I must admit that although I am interested in things like the dementor's appearance, the choir, etc., what I wanted to see most was the kids ;-) I think they look great and love the uniform on Harry in the scene where it looks like he's practicing the patronus. Can anyone place the scene of Snape and Harry in the hallway where Snape whips around with the lit wand? I am trying to think of what that is, but can't come up with anything. Also, I think Harry has something in his hands, but I can't see what it is. Also, is he activating the Marauder's Map in that scene under the white sheet or whatever and with the bright light? Back to viewing and reading comments on various boards ;) Cindy From chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 04:06:33 2003 From: chrisnlorrie at yahoo.com (alora) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:06:33 -0000 Subject: Trailer: Dan and Dementor? Message-ID: Hey all, trailer is awesome! What else can I say? I have a question, though. I have watched it many times through, and do you think that scene where Dan/Harry is in some sort of room with the candles is where he is working on his Dementor problem? His hair is blowing and the camera pans up, as though something is growing large in front of Harry, and he's got his wand trained on it. Dementor practice? What do you guys think? Alora From katydid3500 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 04:08:10 2003 From: katydid3500 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Wolber) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:08:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113040810.25078.qmail@web40504.mail.yahoo.com> --- clshannon at aol.com wrote: > Can anyone place the scene of Snape and Harry in the > hallway where Snape > whips around with the lit wand? I am trying to think > of what that is, but can't > come up with anything. Also, I think Harry has > something in his hands, but I > can't see what it is. To answer one question, my roommate and I placed the Harry/Snape hallway scene being when Snape catches Harry, with the Marauder's Map going to the witch to go to Hogsmeade. I'm guessing Lupin walks up behind him (or Neville, who I believe Harry ran into in that sequence) walked up behind him and he whipped around. That's my take on it:) ~Kathryn, who has probably watched the trailer 40 times by now but doesn't care about her geography exam in the morning. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From anmsmom333 at cox.net Thu Nov 13 05:10:15 2003 From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:10:15 -0000 Subject: Trailer In-Reply-To: <20031113040810.25078.qmail@web40504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I also have watched the trailer over and over. Got lucky during my lunchbreak and downloaded it off of the Leaky Cauldron link and then it went down about an hour later. However, I just hopped on the Warner Brothers official site for HP and it is up there now. Just go to the Daily Prophet and you can watch it in QuickTime, RealPlayer or Windows Media Player and it has various speeds for connection too so Iggy your dialup should work too. BTW the file if you download the QT version is 14.5MB. Anyway, as for my observations. First I rather like it and so do my two boys. I know loads of people complain that the first two films were rather childish but I still enjoyed them immensely and yes there were some strays from canon in both films. Now POA is my favorite book so I have been rather anxious. The book is darker than the other two and has several twist in the plot. I am happy the trailer doesn't give away those twist (unfortunately some reporters have- shame on them!). Anyway, this trailer looks darker, I am still cringing over the dementor's hand on the train. Much scarier than the Dark Riders in LOTR in my opinion. Now the scene with Snape and Harry in the hall, I assumed it was when Harry was caught trying to sneak back from Hogsmeade and either Ron or Remus is coming up behind Snape. The choir doesn't bother me even though it is not canon and part of me hopes it is in the film and part hopes it is just for the teaser. I guess we wait and see. But I am also curious who is conducting the choir and why they are holding toads. Speaking of the choir, did everyone notice the robe changes? The slight coloring of the lapels for house distinction - red, gold, blue and green for Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw and Slytheirn? I never noticed that in any photos but saw it all through the trailer. I think it is cool. Oh, someone asked about Harry casting a spell in a room with candles, I think that is when he is practicing his patronus. I loved the Snape/Boggart scene too. Alan looks rather fetching in a dress. I love Gary Oldman on the wanted poster and he looks so much like I pictured Sirius in the scene where he is pointing, he is a handsome man who has been through hell. I really only had one problem with the trailer and that is the scene in which Snape is protecting the trio. I don't understand where that is supposed to be in relation to the book. Snape got knocked out in the Shrieking Shack. All I can figure is that Snape never goes there and the trio along with moony and Padfoot are bringing back Wormtail who changes back to a rat as Lupin transforms in the moonlight and up pops Snape to protect them but wait here come the dementors. Who knows. Guess I need to wait until June 4th to figure that one out. All in all I am excited and have already circle the 4th on my calendar. I would say my anxiousness over the changes with Cuaron have eased now that I have seen the trailer. If he can make the trailer this yummy. BTW showed the trailer to my hubby who I will admit is not a HP fan - he has never read the books and only watched the films with the boys and I as we are so crazy about them. He is a die hard LOTR fan though. Anyway, he said this one looks much better than the first two. Maybe I can convince him to read the books afterall now. ;o) Anyway, hope those of you who were unable to view can get the trailer off the official site now. Then we can all be psyched! Theresa PS: Don't mean to sound ignorant here but I don't watch much television what station/network has Extra on it? I would love to see the behind the scenes program tomorrow if someone could tell me. Thanks. From purple_801999 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 05:10:29 2003 From: purple_801999 at yahoo.com (purple_801999) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:10:29 -0000 Subject: song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scully931" wrote: > OOOOkay. I just now got that the song was "Double double toil and > trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble... something wicked this way > comes." I think it sounds very cool. (Is that Flitwick conducting?) > The only thing I can't figure out (well, not the ONLY thing, but one > thing) is why would a choir at Hogwarts be singing "Something wicked > this way comes." I mean, it's spooky, but they don't consider > themselves spooky. And the witches from MacBeth were kind of > stereotypical, not like Hogwarts. Anyway, anyone else have any > thoughts on it? Looks neat anyway. > > Deborah It might be a Halloween performance. The Great Hall was full of students so it could be a seasonal concert before the great feast hence a spooky song. Love the idea of a school choir, make Hogwarts seem more contemporary. And the song selection is great, it's stuck in my head too, may have to get the soundtrack for this one. It might just replace 'Monster Mash' as my favorite(and only)Halloween song. My question is did anyone else notice that the singers seemed to be holding something or have something draped around them that was singing also or something. It might have just been an instrument of some sort. But since the choir is an invention of Cuaron (I assume) than I doubt anyone would know what they are if there is anything there. My resolution wasn't great so it may just be that, but if you've seen it too let me know or I may just need to change my contacts. But the movie looks really great,possibly the best trailer for a Potter movie yet. I can't wait for the new movie now to see what Cuaron has done, it all looks darker and more sophisticated, and a definate spookiness I really like. Ack, eight months and counting! Olivia From peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 05:41:20 2003 From: peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com (Sheila) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Message-ID: <20031113054120.41705.qmail@web20604.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all:) I managed to download a copy, and am willing to send it to those who want it. Its a .mov file, meaning it won't play in my Windows Media Player, but it opened in both my Quicktime and RealOne Player. The file size is 14.6 MB (I got the high speed one), and putting it in a compressed folder gets it down to 14.2 MB (not much difference, I have to admit) If someone is looking for a smaller size file, I have no problem getting those as well. I've only been able to download the .mov file tho. Sheila peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com --- Iggy McSnurd wrote: > Iggy here: > > I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to > download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron > site. Does > anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd > be > willing to mail to me? > > (BTW: *PLEASE* don't just send it to me. Let me know on the list > here first > if you have it, and I'll contact one of you to send it... I work off > of a > phone line and it takes forever to download mails with large > attachments... > getting 10 people sending it to me would not only be hideous, but > would lock > up my mail until I could deal with it on a very cranky ISP web > site... > *cringe*) > > Thanks in advance to anyone willing to send this trailer to me. (In > a .zip > file would be best...) > > Iggy McSnurd > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From scully931 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 05:45:07 2003 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:45:07 -0000 Subject: song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ooh, I like the idea of it being a Halloween performance. Also, at second viewing it does not look like Flitwick. No white hair. To answer your question - they are holding frogs. (?) The frogs looked like they were ready to sing as well. Deborah PS - I looove Monster Mash. I used it for my jazz class in October. yay! > > It might be a Halloween performance. The Great Hall was full of > students so it could be a seasonal concert before the great feast > hence a spooky song. Love the idea of a school choir, make Hogwarts > seem more contemporary. And the song selection is great, it's stuck > in my head too, may have to get the soundtrack for this one. It might > just replace 'Monster Mash' as my favorite(and only)Halloween song. > > My question is did anyone else notice that the singers seemed to be > holding something or have something draped around them that was > singing also or something. It might have just been an instrument of > some sort. But since the choir is an invention of Cuaron (I assume) > than I doubt anyone would know what they are if there is anything > there. My resolution wasn't great so it may just be that, but if > you've seen it too let me know or I may just need to change my > contacts. > > But the movie looks really great,possibly the best trailer for a > Potter movie yet. I can't wait for the new movie now to see what > Cuaron has done, it all looks darker and more sophisticated, and a > definate spookiness I really like. Ack, eight months and counting! > > Olivia From swaine.t at xtra.co.nz Thu Nov 13 07:22:24 2003 From: swaine.t at xtra.co.nz (Tanya Swaine) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:22:24 +1300 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <20031113054120.41705.qmail@web20604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <005301c3a98e$32f9fcc0$59c73841@rick> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20031113202129.00a4cae0@pop3.xtra.co.nz> Is there a zipped version? Or is the 14.5 mb zipped already? I am on dial up, lol. Tanya At 21:41 12/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all:) >I managed to download a copy, and am willing to send it to those who >want it. Its a .mov file, meaning it won't play in my Windows Media >Player, but it opened in both my Quicktime and RealOne Player. The file >size is 14.6 MB (I got the high speed one), and putting it in a >compressed folder gets it down to 14.2 MB (not much difference, I have >to admit) If someone is looking for a smaller size file, I have no >problem getting those as well. I've only been able to download the .mov >file tho. > >Sheila >peskipiksi_pesternomii at yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > >--- Iggy McSnurd wrote: > > Iggy here: > > > > I never got a chance to see this, and for some reason I can't seem to > > download the trailer from any of the links on the Leaky Cauldron > > site. Does > > anyone have a working copy of the file on their computer that they'd > > be > > willing to mail to me? > > > > (BTW: *PLEASE* don't just send it to me. Let me know on the list > > here first > > if you have it, and I'll contact one of you to send it... I work off > > of a > > phone line and it takes forever to download mails with large > > attachments... > > getting 10 people sending it to me would not only be hideous, but > > would lock > > up my mail until I could deal with it on a very cranky ISP web > > site... > > *cringe*) > > > > Thanks in advance to anyone willing to send this trailer to me. (In > > a .zip > > file would be best...) > > > > Iggy McSnurd > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > >________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > >WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > >Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > >Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material >from posts to which you're replying! > >Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List >Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com >____________________________________________________________ > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From itzregina at interquest.de Thu Nov 13 07:57:19 2003 From: itzregina at interquest.de (Regina) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:57:19 -0000 Subject: song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scully931" wrote: > thing) is why would a choir at Hogwarts be singing "Something wicked > this way comes." I mean, it's spooky, but they don't consider > themselves spooky. And the witches from MacBeth were kind of > stereotypical, not like Hogwarts. Anyway, anyone else have any > thoughts on it? Looks neat anyway. > > Deborah Delurking to share my thoughts about the choir and song :-) I think this performance is during Halloween. Maybe during the song we are shown flashes of "evil" Sirius sneaking into Hogwarts and destroying The Fat Lady's picture. "Something wicked this way comes." From lunalovegood at shaw.ca Thu Nov 13 09:10:40 2003 From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (dan) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:10:40 -0000 Subject: Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Theresa >I would say my anxiousness > over the changes with Cuaron have eased now that I have seen the > trailer. If he can make the trailer this yummy. BTW showed the > trailer to my hubby who I will admit is not a HP fan - he has never > read the books and only watched the films with the boys and I as we > are so crazy about them. He is a die hard LOTR fan though. Anyway, he > said this one looks much better than the first two. Maybe I can > convince him to read the books afterall now. ;o) Anyway, hope those > of you who were unable to view can get the trailer off the official > site now. Then we can all be psyched! Being a fan of Rowling, and Jackson (though not so fond of JRRT's rather stiff language, compensated by the story), I have to say that, well, thank goodness Columbus isn't directing this one. It should be a much, much better flick. dan From liz at studylink.com Thu Nov 13 08:26:35 2003 From: liz at studylink.com (liz) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:26:35 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 13/11/03 4:20 am, Scully931 at scully931 at yahoo.com wrote: > OOOOkay. I just now got that the song was "Double double toil and > trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble... something wicked this way > comes." I think it sounds very cool. (Is that Flitwick conducting?) > The only thing I can't figure out (well, not the ONLY thing, but one > thing) is why would a choir at Hogwarts be singing "Something wicked > this way comes." I mean, it's spooky, but they don't consider > themselves spooky. And the witches from MacBeth were kind of > stereotypical, not like Hogwarts. Anyway, anyone else have any > thoughts on it? Looks neat anyway. It's probably Halloween, and Hogwarts is pretty traditional at Halloween with pumpkins, bats etc. so a spooky song would be appropriate. I think the choir is great! One minor thing about the books that irks me is the lack of music at the school, either the making of it or just listening. I can't imagine going through life without hearing music everyday! Liz From liz at studylink.com Thu Nov 13 08:38:25 2003 From: liz at studylink.com (liz) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:38:25 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 13/11/03 4:52 am, clshannon at aol.com at clshannon at aol.com wrote: > Also, is he activating the Marauder's Map in that scene under the white sheet > or whatever and with the bright light? I think that's probably when he's at Privet Drive trying to do his homework under the covers at night. Liz From lmbolland at earthlink.net Thu Nov 13 12:37:29 2003 From: lmbolland at earthlink.net (goodnight_moon5) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:37:29 -0000 Subject: trailer analysis Message-ID: Just did a quick analysis of the scenes shown (oh so briefly!) and I hope you'll all add any details you spotted: 1. Train stopped on bridge on way to Howgarts. (Dementor search?) 2. Shrieking Shack - Hermione and Ron w/empty space between them. (Harry in Invisiblity Cloak?) 3. Horseless Carriages on way from Hogsmeade to Hogwarts. 4. Dumbledore welcoming students - view of staff table. 5. Zoom in on the choir - hall doesn't seem to be decorated for Halloween, but I like the idea that the choir is singing whilst evil Sirius slashes the fat lady and tears thru Gryffindor Tower. 6. Night bus 7. Harry on ground at Magnolia Crescent (?) after having "summoned" Night Bus 8. The Marge-balloon. 9. Malfoy's origami swan. 10. Students walking away from a large stone formation. (We see this formation later - perhaps it's the way from Hogwarts into Hogsmeade, or perhaps it's near the Whomping Willow?) 11. Choir close up with large toads. Students are wearing uniform- type robes w/house-color ties, but uniforms look different from those in first movie. 12. Snape/Boggart scene. (Filmed in DADA classroom, not staffroom.) 13. Hysterically laughing Sirius wanted poster - in Hogsmeade. (Wow, that was creepy!) 14. Hermione & Ron (and Crookshanks) in fear (of Dementor?) on train. 15. Harry holding map (?) and Snape confronting him, when something (someone?) comes up behind Snape. 16. Harry & owl in archway. (Left behind from Hogsmeade?) 17. Sirius in Azkaban. 18. Arthur Weasley warning Harry in the Leaky Cauldron, not at the platform. (It seems?) 19. Snape protecting the trio. 20. Sirius in Shrieking Shack bedroom. 21. Harry doing magic under a bedsheet. (Privit Drive?) 22. Hermione and someone wearing a flowing jacket (Harry?) run toward stone formation. (Possibly the time-turner scene?) 23. Trio hiding outside Hagrid's hut, behind pumpkins. (Buckbeak's execution?) 24. Hagrid restraining something, whilst kids flee from paddock. (Buckbeak, no doubt.) 25. Dumbledore and candle. (cool) 26. Winter in Hogsmeade. 27. McGonagall 28. Harry doing a spell in a room w/a wooden staircase, filled cabinets, and crooked candles. (Anti-Dementor practice?) 29. Dementor hand opening train compartment door. 30. Choir ends song. Please feel free to add details and correct my mistakes! :) Lauri From patientx3 at aol.com Thu Nov 13 12:57:13 2003 From: patientx3 at aol.com (HunterGreen) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:57:13 -0000 Subject: trailer analysis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lauri Wrote: >> Just did a quick analysis of the scenes shown (oh so briefly!) and I hope you'll all add any details you spotted: 5. Zoom in on the choir - hall doesn't seem to be decorated for Halloween, but I like the idea that the choir is singing whilst evil Sirius slashes the fat lady and tears thru Gryffindor Tower. << I noticed the lack of Halloween decorations as well, which is disappointing; the singing seems to fit better on Halloween (as a distraction for the audience, and setting up the shock of finding the fat lady ripped up) rather than the welcoming feast (plotwise, it seems to fit either way, but IMO, it would slow down the beginning of the movie to have it at the welcoming feast). >>11. Choir close up with large toads. Students are wearing uniform- type robes w/house-color ties, but uniforms look different from those in first movie.<< I don't really like the new robes, but its more of a personal preference than anything else (I like black). It seems like the colored ties and house badges were enough to denote which house students were from. >12. Snape/Boggart scene. (Filmed in DADA classroom, not staffroom.)<< I was really surprised to see how much older Neville looks in this scene (he's aging very nicely). Also, this is the first time that I've been happy with the way Lupin looks, hopefully the stills just kept catching him at a bad moment. >>13. Hysterically laughing Sirius wanted poster - in Hogsmeade. (Wow, that was creepy!)<< This may just be how much I love Sirius, but its more sad than creepy to me. He looks like he's shouting, and looking around for someone to listen to him (IMO, the music in the background works really well with this scene). >>20. Sirius in Shrieking Shack bedroom.<< Did anyone else think Gary Oldman looked really odd in this shot? He hardly looks like himself (at least as much as he does in the other shots of Sirius) at all >>21. Harry doing magic under a bedsheet. (Privit Drive?)<< That makes sense, thanks so much for that interpretation, I could not figure out what he was doing (people were saying it was the MM, but the amount of light didn't make sense). BTW, there's screencaps from the trailer at http://www.digicasey.com/TeaserTrailer.html -HunterGreen From vincentjh at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 13:13:54 2003 From: vincentjh at yahoo.com (vincentjh) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:13:54 -0000 Subject: Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The picture looks so much different with a new director. I love the way the camera "flows" (as Emma Watson puts it). This seems to be a trademark of Cuaron. Another thing that really pleases me is that Cuaron manages to catch the changing seasons. In the previous two movies, the stories seem to unfold in a month or so. Even though Columbus used some natural scenes and there are various holidays, all in all, I can't really feel that a year has gone by. (The pacing also caused this problem.) Cuaron, on the other hand, is able to capture the changes in lights, colors, and even temporature and other feels in different seasons. Hopefully, when the final product comes out, it'd have the same magic as "Y Tu" - the audience can almost breath the dry air of the desert and the salty smell of the sea. From vincentjh at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 13:24:47 2003 From: vincentjh at yahoo.com (vincentjh) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:24:47 -0000 Subject: trailer analysis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- "HunterGreen" wrote: > >12. Snape/Boggart scene. (Filmed in DADA classroom, not staffroom.) << > > I was really surprised to see how much older Neville looks in this > scene (he's aging very nicely). Also, this is the first time that > I've been happy with the way Lupin looks, hopefully the stills just > kept catching him at a bad moment. > Lupin is very different from my imagination. But the look is interesting and I like it - he looks like one of those poor intellectures from late 19th century (or early 20th). Not too contemporary yet also not too, uh, ancient. (Who knows? Maybe in Lupin's long struggle to make a living, he's ventured into muggle world and learned to wear suits. That makes him even more like an outsider to the rest of the wizards.) From grace701 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 15:41:35 2003 From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:41:35 -0000 Subject: song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: purple_801999 wrote: > It might be a Halloween performance. The Great Hall was full of > students so it could be a seasonal concert before the great feast > hence a spooky song. Love the idea of a school choir, make > Hogwarts seem more contemporary. And the song selection is great, > it's stuck in my head too, may have to get the soundtrack for this > one. It might just replace 'Monster Mash' as my favorite(and only) > Halloween song. > My question is did anyone else notice that the singers seemed to > be holding something or have something draped around them that was > singing also or something. It might have just been an instrument > of some sort. But since the choir is an invention of Cuaron (I > assume) than I doubt anyone would know what they are if there is > anything there. My resolution wasn't great so it may just be that, > but if you've seen it too let me know or I may just need to change > my contacts. > > But the movie looks really great,possibly the best trailer for a > Potter movie yet. I can't wait for the new movie now to see what > Cuaron has done, it all looks darker and more sophisticated, and a > definate spookiness I really like. Ack, eight months and counting! > > Olivia Olivia, the students are holding very big frogs. I also think that it's a Halloween scene. And it's a great song for what's to come obviously. It's perfect also because doesn't Ron get "attacked" that night by Sirius? From grace701 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 15:44:32 2003 From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:44:32 -0000 Subject: Snape protecting the Trio Message-ID: I suppose this scene we won't be able to find out exactly why he is doing this when there is no scene in the books stating so. The only time it is stated that Snape was "protecting" them was in the beginning of the 'Hermione's Secret' chapter where Fudge states that if it weren't for Snape...yada yada. And it is mentioned that he is going to receive the First Order of Merlin (or something like that ;)). Everything else I've been able to figure out, such as Snape and Harry in the hallway. It has to be that Harry got caught or when Snape finds Harry about to go into the secret passage. Grace From flitwicksman at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 17:10:31 2003 From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0000 Subject: CNN Message-ID: My roommate was watching CNN and saw an upcoming piece about POA and taped it. Happily, it included the full teaser trailer and I believe CNN shows the same thing every thirty minutes, so you may want to check out CNN. By the way, we can't wait either (my roommate says that they are evil for teasing us like this with 7 more months to go! Maybe this is the real "something wicked this way comes";-)!!). Brian:-) From suzloua at hotmail.com Thu Nov 13 17:12:13 2003 From: suzloua at hotmail.com (Susan Atherton) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:12:13 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot Message-ID: I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, so I have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) ********************************************* GREY SMOKE BILLOWS AROUND THE WB LOGO. We cut to a long shot of THE STRANDED HOGWARTS EXPRESS (which is, for some reason, on a bridge. Perhaps Dementors can fly.) MORE GREY SMOKE On June 4th Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing the distant castle. Both look like children; the GIRL has long dark bushy hair with a red hat (she does not appear to be Hermione, though) and the BOY has one of those tie-under-your-chin type hats with a barbour coat. They are both wrapped up against the snowy weather; neither are recogniseable. MORE GREY SMOKE Something wicked this way comes #Hedwig's Theme by John Williams begins to play# Cut to the a shot of the HORSELESS (ahem) CARRIAGES TRUNDLING TOWARDS HOGWARTS. There is a sign visible which points in one direction to Hogwarts; the other to Hogsmeade. A crow lands on this sign as we watch. Dumbledore: Welcome, welcome... Cut to shot of the Great Hall dais on which the teachers sit. DUMBLEDORE is in focus. Behind him sit L-R: HAGRID, PROF. MCGONAGALL, PROF. SNAPE, PROF. LUPIN, and an UNIDENTIFIED TEACHER. Dumbledore: [cont]...to another year at Hogwarts. Cut to sweeping shot of the Great Hall from POV of top right corner. Camera moves in very quickly to the CHOIR visible in front of the teacher's dais. On the left of the choir is MR. FILCH, holding MRS. NORRIS. A very tiny man who does not appear to be Flitwick (he actually looks more like Gaston's sidekick in Beauty and the Beast) is conducting the choir, who are, for reasons best known to themselves, all determinedly clutching GIANT TOADS. Choir: [sing] Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble... (x4) Cut to a shot of the KNIGHT BUS, swerving through what appears to be London traffic (you don't get the big red buses in the background anywhere else to my knowledge). Cut to shot of HARRY, lying on his back in MAGNOLIA CRESCENT. His trunk is beside him and he looks shocked. He is heavily lit from the side - most likely the headlights from the Knight Bus. Cut to shot of AUNT MARGE, inflated and flying away. UNCLE VERNON, AUNT PERTUNIA, and RIPPER all watch in horror from the garden below. (One must wonder where Harry is, or indeed, how they plan to get Marge down.) Cut to shot of DRACO MALFOY, VINCENT CRABBE and GREGORY GOYLE. DRACO has made a small paper crane and is blowing it into the air, where it flies away off screen. They are all wearing silver snake rings, and Draco's arm is bandaged, presumably from his confrontation with Buckbeak. They are in class, probably Snape's covered DADA class, and all are wearing robes. Cut to shot of RON, HARRY and HERMIONE walking down stone steps in a field. Other students are a little way behind them. Hogwarts is in the background. They are wearing robes too. Cut back to the CHOIR, who are all gurning triumphantly at the camera and still cheerfully clutching their GIANT TOADS. They are also wearing robes. Choir: [sing] Something wicked this way comes! Cut to shot of PROF. SNAPE, striding rather manfully out of a wardrobe looking menacing. Cut to shot of NEVILLE LONGBOTTOM and PROF. LUPIN. Neville looks scared. Lupin looks - well, quite pervy, really. Neville and all the students in the background (who do not, incidentally, include HRH, but do include SEAMUS) are all wearing robes. Cut back to SNAPE. NEVILLE'S outstretched arm holding his wand is in the immediate foreground. Snape looks at the wand with some interest. Suddenly he transforms into Boggart!Snape wearing a green dress, vulture-topped hat, fox fur wrap and a big red handbag. Close-up on BOGGART!SNAPE. He looks rather upset. Choir V/O: [sing] Eye of newt and tongue of frog... Arthur Weasley V/O: Sirius Black has escaped from Azkaban prison... Cut to a snowy HOGSMEADE, complete with wanted poster for SIRIUS BLACK. Sirius is holding up his Azkaban ID and snarling at the camera, looking round to his right. We pan across the poster to see TWO CHILDREN walking along the street. Although they are distant, the GIRL on the right seems to be the GIRL from the opening scene (same hat and hair). Cut to HOGWARTS EXPRESS INTERIOR. HERMIONE and RON are shying back from something. They both look terrified. You can see Hermione's breath as she breathes out. This would appear to be from the Dementors on the train sequence. Cut to the seat beside HERMIONE. CROOKSHANKS hisses at something. Cut to a hallway in Hogwarts. SNAPE has confronted HARRY, who is wearing what look like pyjama bottoms and a green hooded top. He is carrying his wand in one hand and what looks like the Marauder's Map in the other. Snape whips around behind him towards the camera. His wand is lit. Cut to courtyard. HARRY is standing alone looking at a fountain. An owl flies towards him. Arthur Weasley V/O: Swear to me you won't go looking for Black! Cut to SIRIUS BLACK in Azkaban. We close in on Black, who whips his head round to stare at a point just above the camera as we close in on him. Fade to HARRY talking to ARTHUR WEASLEY, who is almost out of shot. The camera looks over Arthur's shoulder to see Harry. They appear to be in the LEAKY CAULDRON. Harry: Why would I go looking for someone who wants to kill me? Cut to SNAPE pushing HERMIONE, RON and HARRY behind him. It is dusk, and they are all staring at something past the camera in fear. All are wearing their "Shrieking Shack" clothes (pink top and rainbow belt for Hr, brown jacket and jeans for H, maroon jumper for R) Cut to SIRIUS in what appears to be the SHRIEKING SHACK. He raises his finger to point at someone below the camera and a menacing smile is on his face. Cut to HARRY under what appears to be a bedsheet, but could theoretically be the Invisibility Cloak. He is lighting his wand and looking at something - either his parent's photo album looking for Sirius, his school work in Privet Drive, the Marauder's Map, or possibly Naughty Teenage Witches. He is wearing a grey T-shirt. Cut to HARRY and HERMIONE running down a path. They are wearing their Shrieking Shack clothes. This would appear to come from the Time Turner sequence, since they are minus Ron. Choir V/O: [sing] Double, double, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble... Cut to RON, HERMIONE and HARRY crouching behind a pile of oversize pumpkins and spying on HAGRID'S HUT. Hermione whips round to stare at something behind the camera. It is daylight. They are wearing their Shrieking Shack clothes. Cut to HAGRID raising his arms and looking serious while about twenty students scatter in the background. He is looking at something above the camera, so this would appear to be from the Hippogriff CoMC lesson. Cut to a close up of DUMBLEDORE, who waves his hand past a candle. It lights as his hand passes. (This bit is VERY cool.) Cut to a roof-high POV of a snow-covered HOGSMEADE (recognisable by the wanted poster sign). One gentleman appears to be leading a yak somewhere. Cut to MCGONAGALL in a hallway talking to someone. An elbow is visible on the right of the screen. From the way the camera swings around her, it would seem she is lecturing a group of students - probably the third years going to Hogsmeade for the first time. Cut to HARRY in a room lined with glass-fronted cabinets, in which are odd-shaped bottles. Three candles which resemble a human spine are also visible in the background. Harry is pointing his wand at something past the camera. A wind is blowing his hair back. He is wearing his school uniform, but not his robes over it. The camera rises and Harry's aim rises with it. This is very possibly a Boggart!Dementor practice. Cut to a slowly opening window, probably on the HOGWARTS EXPRESS. Tattered black robes are visible through frosty glass, and finally a skeletal clawed hand appears around the edge of the window frame. Choir V/O: [sing] ...fire burn and cauldron bubble.... Cut finally back to the CHOIR, who are still merrily clutching their TOADS. Choir: [sing] Something wicked this way comes! BACK TO THE GREY SMOKE. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban #Another few notes of Hedwig's Theme play# Summer 2004 Susan ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Architect: I am the Architect. I am perfect. You are not. So there. Neo: You look just enough like the KFC Colonel to be disconcerting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From annabellejane97 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 14:59:18 2003 From: annabellejane97 at yahoo.com (annabellejane97) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:59:18 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: <20031109153008.4838.qmail@web13113.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Odile Falaise wrote: > Odile again: > > Erm, that's interesting. Indeed, Gifu can be > > And what stumps me is that yes, these two runes are in > his *prisoner ID*, i.e., the folks at *Azkaban* > assigned them to Sirius - why would they use runes > with positive connotations? It's not like they would > be obscure to the Wizards and Witches of the > Potterverse. > Perhaps the ID is assigned in a manner analogous to the sorting hat. There could be some magical device that is able to read a prisoner's character and personality and assign an ID accordingly. The fact that the rune meanings have positive connotations that would be known in the WW is not necessarily a problem. It is human nature to interpret something based on a preconceived idea about a person or situation. I don't pretend to know anything about runes, but I have read the posts concerning their meanings. For exmple, maybe everyone assumed that the gift or exchange was in connection with LV. Certainly the people that knew the full extent of what Sirius was thought to have done of would have a basis to believe that - Sirius gave the Potters to LV. Just a thought. Anna From mail at chartfield.net Thu Nov 13 17:40:21 2003 From: mail at chartfield.net (queen_astrofiammante) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:40:21 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Atherton" wrote: > I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, so I have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) I reckon a big thank you is due for this, so here it is... Thanks very much, that was great! Astrofiammante From tmarends at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 17:57:32 2003 From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:57:32 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer on Extra too! In-Reply-To: <20031113011836.45510.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the link. Excellent trailer. Can't wait for June!! --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Kathleen McClain wrote: > I caught tonight's edition of Extra and the showing of the trailer lasted > only a few seconds and was not the entire trailer. They mentioned the > report that will be on tomorrow night. However, I did find the trailer on > themoviebox.net. Here is the URL: > http://www.themoviebox.net/trailers/harrypotter3/. > > I have watched it several times now and I am puzzled by a couple of > things. I think I need to re-read the book...again. Happily, of course. (I > was planning on doing so before the movie comes out.) Is there a mention > of a chorus singing Something Wicked This Way Comes? And why do four of > them in the front hold what looks like large frogs? Just curious if anyone > has any theories. > > I love the moving poster of Sirius! I am a huge Gary Oldman fan so I was > very happy when he was cast for the role. > > Overall, I was very pleased with the trailer and now wish June would get > here as quickly as possible! > > > > > --- yolandacarroll wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" wrote: > > > Big thanks to HPANA for confirming that the official Prisoner of > > > Azkaban trailer will feature tonight as a world premiere on ExtraTV. > > > > >Yes, this is the real thing. :) > > > > Someone (or several someones for that matter) please tape it *grin*. > > > > > > Yolanda > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From autumn_sprite at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 18:46:52 2003 From: autumn_sprite at yahoo.com (Marianne) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:46:52 -0000 Subject: VCR Alert Message-ID: Aside from tonight's Extra, E! is also going to have something on PoA ... THURSDAY 11/13 ? Lynda Lopez is on the London set with the cast of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Marianne From djs504 at lycos.com Thu Nov 13 21:02:53 2003 From: djs504 at lycos.com (DEBRA JO SMITH) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:02:53 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Extra What Time & Channel Message-ID: What channel or network is Extra on? I've can't seem to find it anywhere! If anyone is in the Martinsburg, West Virginia or Maryland or Virginia area. Please let me know. Debby djs504 at lycos.com Please help someone ____________________________________________________________ Enter now for a chance to win a 42" Plasma Television! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anmsmom333 at cox.net Thu Nov 13 21:27:39 2003 From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:27:39 -0000 Subject: Extra What Time & Channel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I did not know either so at lunch I did some research. I am not sure about where you live but out here in Arizona it comes on at 6:30 PM and it is a show on CBS so look at your CBS line up for tonight. It also does show that it is 'a behind the scenes look at HP3'. Too cool. Going to run home after work and set up the VCR. Then take my 12 year old out for his birthday - got my priorities! ;o) Theresa --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "DEBRA JO SMITH" wrote: > What channel or network is Extra on? I've can't seem > to find it anywhere! If anyone is in the Martinsburg, West Virginia or > Maryland or Virginia area. Please let me know. > Debby > djs504 at l... > Please help someone > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Enter now for a chance to win a 42" Plasma Television! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f? http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 > AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f? http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 > This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From delphislash at yahoo.ca Thu Nov 13 23:01:07 2003 From: delphislash at yahoo.ca (delphislash) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:01:07 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Atherton" wrote: > I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, > so I have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) Thank you for this! I've actually watched the trailer, but on a very low resolution, so there's a lot of details that I missed out on. I had to freeze the choir scene a few times to try to figure out if those were giant toads or mishapen jack o' lanterns the kids were holding. Cannot get that song out of my head ;-) I'm also curious as to whether Sirius is really snarling in his wanted poster, or laughing hysterically. It looks a bit more like the latter to me, and the thought of Gary Oldman in full psycho mode is quite intriguing... And you're right - Lupin does look quite pervy with Neville, doesn't he. *grin* Thanks again, -Delphi From clshannon at aol.com Fri Nov 14 01:39:13 2003 From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:39:13 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Extra What Time & Channel Message-ID: <75.1c854c33.2ce58c41@aol.com> Extra is a syndicated show, much like Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood. It airs at different times and on different networks throughout the country. The best way to find it is to go to their web site; they must have a link to find out when and where it is on in your area. It's on here in a few hours and I plan to tape the story. The Leaky Cauldron site posted a link to Extra's web page where they have a realplayer version of it available. I hope it's the same story we will get on the show because it's really cute ;-) Seems Emma likes to fix Daniel's hair between takes ;-) Also, I watched E! News Live's set report earlier today and we see a glimpse of Emma Thompson as Trelawney - that was a nice surprise. The kids look great- it was a short, short piece, but I enjoyed it ;-) I am sure most sites will have transcripts up soon and maybe E!'s web page will have a streaming version of their story. I'm not sure if they offer that or not. I feel like I'm on sensory overload these last two days! All these glimpses and the trailer, it makes waiting til June all the more excruciating ;-) Cindy From amani at charter.net Fri Nov 14 02:22:22 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:22:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA Trailer Shot-by-shot References: Message-ID: <008d01c3aa56$23d86740$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Susan: Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing the distant castle. Both look like children; the GIRL has long dark bushy hair with a red hat (she does not appear to be Hermione, though) Taryn: Why do you say that? She looks perfectly clear to be Hermione to me. *watches again* Yup... ---------- Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From editor at texas.net Fri Nov 14 02:21:29 2003 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:21:29 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Snape protecting the Trio References: Message-ID: <000b01c3aa56$5050fc60$f25aaacf@texas.net> Grace: > I suppose this scene we won't be able to find out exactly why he is > doing this when there is no scene in the books stating so. It's my thought that they may have "taken" the attack on Snape away from the kids--bad image to portray or something--and "given" it to Sirius or Lupin. Or had Snape not enter the Shack at all (aaagh!) or regain consciousness in time to defend them. > The only > time it is stated that Snape was "protecting" them was in the > beginning of the 'Hermione's Secret' chapter where Fudge states > that if it weren't for Snape...yada yada. Some of Snape's dialogue in the Shack has often been interpreted as protective--while it seems clear that he chased after Lupin in the hope of catching Sirius (the kids were already in the Shack, and thus off the Map), he did mention he was "saving their neck" and expressed some frustration that they weren't grateful at all. I'm betting this scene is drawing on that. > Everything else I've been able to figure out, such as > Snape and Harry in the hallway. It has to be that Harry got caught > or when Snape finds Harry about to go into the secret passage. Well, Harry's holding the map. It could be when Snape is challenging him on that--although Harry's dressed like he is in the Shack scenes. ~Amanda From amani at charter.net Fri Nov 14 02:23:23 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:23 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trailer analysis References: Message-ID: <009f01c3aa56$47b290a0$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Lauri: 10. Students walking away from a large stone formation. (We see this formation later - perhaps it's the way from Hogwarts into Hogsmeade, or perhaps it's near the Whomping Willow?) Taryn: I wouldn't imagine the former, because Harry's with them and QUITE visible. ^_~ ---------- Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From editor at texas.net Fri Nov 14 02:26:24 2003 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Geist) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:26:24 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA Trailer Shot-by-shot References: Message-ID: <000f01c3aa56$b433aa20$f25aaacf@texas.net> You should send this to the Leaky Cauldron, you should. Very very very well done. Thank you *so* much (could not see trailer for the longest time and this was the next best thing)!! ~Amanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Atherton" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA Trailer Shot-by-shot > I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, so I have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) > > ********************************************* > > GREY SMOKE BILLOWS AROUND THE WB LOGO. > > We cut to a long shot of THE STRANDED HOGWARTS EXPRESS (which is, for some reason, on a bridge. Perhaps Dementors can fly.) > > MORE GREY SMOKE > > On June 4th > > Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing the distant castle. Both look like children; the GIRL has long dark bushy hair with a red hat (she does not appear to be Hermione, though) and the BOY has one of those tie-under-your-chin type hats with a barbour coat. They are both wrapped up against the snowy weather; neither are recogniseable. > > MORE GREY SMOKE > > Something wicked this way comes > > #Hedwig's Theme by John Williams begins to play# > > Cut to the a shot of the HORSELESS (ahem) CARRIAGES TRUNDLING TOWARDS HOGWARTS. There is a sign visible which points in one direction to Hogwarts; the other to Hogsmeade. A crow lands on this sign as we watch. > > Dumbledore: Welcome, welcome... > > Cut to shot of the Great Hall dais on which the teachers sit. DUMBLEDORE is in focus. Behind him sit L-R: HAGRID, PROF. MCGONAGALL, PROF. SNAPE, PROF. LUPIN, and an UNIDENTIFIED TEACHER. > > Dumbledore: [cont]...to another year at Hogwarts. > > Cut to sweeping shot of the Great Hall from POV of top right corner. Camera moves in very quickly to the CHOIR visible in front of the teacher's dais. On the left of the choir is MR. FILCH, holding MRS. NORRIS. A very tiny man who does not appear to be Flitwick (he actually looks more like Gaston's sidekick in Beauty and the Beast) is conducting the choir, who are, for reasons best known to themselves, all determinedly clutching GIANT TOADS. > > Choir: [sing] Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble... (x4) > > Cut to a shot of the KNIGHT BUS, swerving through what appears to be London traffic (you don't get the big red buses in the background anywhere else to my knowledge). > > Cut to shot of HARRY, lying on his back in MAGNOLIA CRESCENT. His trunk is beside him and he looks shocked. He is heavily lit from the side - most likely the headlights from the Knight Bus. > > Cut to shot of AUNT MARGE, inflated and flying away. UNCLE VERNON, AUNT PERTUNIA, and RIPPER all watch in horror from the garden below. (One must wonder where Harry is, or indeed, how they plan to get Marge down.) > > Cut to shot of DRACO MALFOY, VINCENT CRABBE and GREGORY GOYLE. DRACO has made a small paper crane and is blowing it into the air, where it flies away off screen. They are all wearing silver snake rings, and Draco's arm is bandaged, presumably from his confrontation with Buckbeak. They are in class, probably Snape's covered DADA class, and all are wearing robes. > > Cut to shot of RON, HARRY and HERMIONE walking down stone steps in a field. Other students are a little way behind them. Hogwarts is in the background. They are wearing robes too. > > Cut back to the CHOIR, who are all gurning triumphantly at the camera and still cheerfully clutching their GIANT TOADS. They are also wearing robes. > > Choir: [sing] Something wicked this way comes! > > Cut to shot of PROF. SNAPE, striding rather manfully out of a wardrobe looking menacing. > > Cut to shot of NEVILLE LONGBOTTOM and PROF. LUPIN. Neville looks scared. Lupin looks - well, quite pervy, really. Neville and all the students in the background (who do not, incidentally, include HRH, but do include SEAMUS) are all wearing robes. > > Cut back to SNAPE. NEVILLE'S outstretched arm holding his wand is in the immediate foreground. Snape looks at the wand with some interest. Suddenly he transforms into Boggart!Snape wearing a green dress, vulture-topped hat, fox fur wrap and a big red handbag. > > Close-up on BOGGART!SNAPE. He looks rather upset. > > Choir V/O: [sing] Eye of newt and tongue of frog... > > Arthur Weasley V/O: Sirius Black has escaped from Azkaban prison... > > Cut to a snowy HOGSMEADE, complete with wanted poster for SIRIUS BLACK. Sirius is holding up his Azkaban ID and snarling at the camera, looking round to his right. We pan across the poster to see TWO CHILDREN walking along the street. Although they are distant, the GIRL on the right seems to be the GIRL from the opening scene (same hat and hair). > > Cut to HOGWARTS EXPRESS INTERIOR. HERMIONE and RON are shying back from something. They both look terrified. You can see Hermione's breath as she breathes out. This would appear to be from the Dementors on the train sequence. > > Cut to the seat beside HERMIONE. CROOKSHANKS hisses at something. > > Cut to a hallway in Hogwarts. SNAPE has confronted HARRY, who is wearing what look like pyjama bottoms and a green hooded top. He is carrying his wand in one hand and what looks like the Marauder's Map in the other. Snape whips around behind him towards the camera. His wand is lit. > > Cut to courtyard. HARRY is standing alone looking at a fountain. An owl flies towards him. > > Arthur Weasley V/O: Swear to me you won't go looking for Black! > > Cut to SIRIUS BLACK in Azkaban. We close in on Black, who whips his head round to stare at a point just above the camera as we close in on him. > > Fade to HARRY talking to ARTHUR WEASLEY, who is almost out of shot. The camera looks over Arthur's shoulder to see Harry. They appear to be in the LEAKY CAULDRON. > > Harry: Why would I go looking for someone who wants to kill me? > > Cut to SNAPE pushing HERMIONE, RON and HARRY behind him. It is dusk, and they are all staring at something past the camera in fear. All are wearing their "Shrieking Shack" clothes (pink top and rainbow belt for Hr, brown jacket and jeans for H, maroon jumper for R) > > Cut to SIRIUS in what appears to be the SHRIEKING SHACK. He raises his finger to point at someone below the camera and a menacing smile is on his face. > > Cut to HARRY under what appears to be a bedsheet, but could theoretically be the Invisibility Cloak. He is lighting his wand and looking at something - either his parent's photo album looking for Sirius, his school work in Privet Drive, the Marauder's Map, or possibly Naughty Teenage Witches. He is wearing a grey T-shirt. > > Cut to HARRY and HERMIONE running down a path. They are wearing their Shrieking Shack clothes. This would appear to come from the Time Turner sequence, since they are minus Ron. > > Choir V/O: [sing] Double, double, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble... > > Cut to RON, HERMIONE and HARRY crouching behind a pile of oversize pumpkins and spying on HAGRID'S HUT. Hermione whips round to stare at something behind the camera. It is daylight. They are wearing their Shrieking Shack clothes. > > Cut to HAGRID raising his arms and looking serious while about twenty students scatter in the background. He is looking at something above the camera, so this would appear to be from the Hippogriff CoMC lesson. > > Cut to a close up of DUMBLEDORE, who waves his hand past a candle. It lights as his hand passes. (This bit is VERY cool.) > > Cut to a roof-high POV of a snow-covered HOGSMEADE (recognisable by the wanted poster sign). One gentleman appears to be leading a yak somewhere. > > Cut to MCGONAGALL in a hallway talking to someone. An elbow is visible on the right of the screen. From the way the camera swings around her, it would seem she is lecturing a group of students - probably the third years going to Hogsmeade for the first time. > > Cut to HARRY in a room lined with glass-fronted cabinets, in which are odd-shaped bottles. Three candles which resemble a human spine are also visible in the background. Harry is pointing his wand at something past the camera. A wind is blowing his hair back. He is wearing his school uniform, but not his robes over it. The camera rises and Harry's aim rises with it. This is very possibly a Boggart!Dementor practice. > > Cut to a slowly opening window, probably on the HOGWARTS EXPRESS. Tattered black robes are visible through frosty glass, and finally a skeletal clawed hand appears around the edge of the window frame. > > Choir V/O: [sing] ...fire burn and cauldron bubble.... > > Cut finally back to the CHOIR, who are still merrily clutching their TOADS. > > Choir: [sing] Something wicked this way comes! > > BACK TO THE GREY SMOKE. > > Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban > > #Another few notes of Hedwig's Theme play# > > Summer 2004 > > > Susan > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Architect: I am the Architect. I am perfect. You are not. So there. > Neo: You look just enough like the KFC Colonel to be disconcerting. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! > > Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > From artsylynda at aol.com Fri Nov 14 03:37:52 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:37:52 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA set visit on Extra Message-ID: <103.3938a293.2ce5a810@aol.com> I got to see the PoA visit on "EXTRA" tonight and it was WAAAY too short, and too little of the trio, and they cut between scenes WAY too fast!! Yikes! We could've done without all the smarmy stories about porn and so forth and had a MUCH longer segment on PoA! They didn't show the trailer, just did VERY quick interviews. Here's an observation, though -- Rupert isn't being included in any interviews lately, it's always Dan and Emma, or Emma and Tom (who went to some awards thing together a while back). I guess they decided Rupert wasn't a very good live interview, since all he seemed able to say was "cool," "wicked," and that he enjoyed the taste of the slugs. But he is a charming guy, very funny, and I'd like to hear more from him if they could get him to present himself better (maybe -- I GUESS that's the problem). I love Dan and he's a great interview, always has good answers to questions. Emma's doing well too, but where's Rupert? He only got to say his name in this piece. Dan got to say a little more, as did Emma. I didn't get the tape in the machine in time, so no tape here. Ah well. Can't wait for June 4th! Lynda * * * ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 09:55:00 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: Trailer: Dan and Dementor? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alora, I think that is a great guess - dementor practice in the DADA classroom, maybe? I'm very interested to see how Harry's patronus is portrayed. June is so very far away. Diana L. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "alora" wrote: > Hey all, > > trailer is awesome! What else can I say? I have a question, > though. I have watched it many times through, and do you think that > scene where Dan/Harry is in some sort of room with the candles is > where he is working on his Dementor problem? His hair is blowing > and the camera pans up, as though something is growing large in > front of Harry, and he's got his wand trained on it. Dementor > practice? What do you guys think? > > Alora From ameliagoldfeesh at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 10:58:50 2003 From: ameliagoldfeesh at yahoo.com (ameliagoldfeesh) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:50 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: <000f01c3aa56$b433aa20$f25aaacf@texas.net> Message-ID: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Atherton" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:12 AM > > > I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, so I > have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) A Goldfeesh I'd also like to thank you, as I, at first, could only get visuals and no sound. Thank you. Also, > > Cut to HAGRID raising his arms and looking serious > > While he wears a pair of dead ferrets around his neck. :) Plus in the trailer, I liked how as the choir sings "Something wicked this way comes" Snape appears from the wardrobe. A Goldfeesh From ameliagoldfeesh at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 11:00:21 2003 From: ameliagoldfeesh at yahoo.com (ameliagoldfeesh) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:21 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: <000f01c3aa56$b433aa20$f25aaacf@texas.net> Message-ID: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Atherton" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:12 AM > > > I heard a lot of people are having trouble downloading the trailer, so I > have written a shot-by-shot account of what happens. Enjoy :) A Goldfeesh I'd also like to thank you, as I, at first, could only get visuals and no sound. Thank you. Also, > > Cut to HAGRID raising his arms and looking serious > > While he wears a pair of dead ferrets around his neck. :) Plus in the trailer, I liked how as the choir sings "Something wicked this way comes" Snape appears from the wardrobe. A Goldfeesh From manda at qx.net Fri Nov 14 19:00:16 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:00:16 -0800 Subject: E! News Live repeat In-Reply-To: <75.1c854c33.2ce58c41@aol.com> Message-ID: <3FB4B5C0.7350.4C4DDB@localhost> On 13 Nov 2003 at 20:39, clshannon at aol.com wrote: > > Also, I watched E! News Live's set report earlier today and we see a > glimpse of Emma Thompson as Trelawney - that was a nice surprise. The > kids look great- it was a short, short piece, but I enjoyed it ;-) I > am sure most sites will have transcripts up soon and maybe E!'s web > page will have a streaming version of their story. I'm not sure if > they offer that or not. "E! News Live" is repeated about an hour from now, at noon EST. I had trouble downloading the trailer until I found it at alt.binaries.harry-potter in RAR format. So maybe some who are having problems can get it that way. Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From bpfincale at f-m.fm Fri Nov 14 15:39:36 2003 From: bpfincale at f-m.fm (benigs) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:39:36 -0000 Subject: song lyrics? Message-ID: hey! i loved the trailer of PoA... i really loved the choir's song. i especially loved those large toads they were clutching. anyone notice that one of the toads is beating its head to the beat of the music? ;p anyways, i was wondering if anyone has the complete lyrics of that song? if you do, can you please post them? and is it true that the line "something wicked this way comes" is from shakespeare? sorry, im not familiar with his writings... :) --->Ben From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Fri Nov 14 17:43:36 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:43:36 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? Message-ID: The lyrics to the song can be found in the Witches' scene in The Scottish Play. > ---------- > From: benigs > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:39 AM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? > > hey! i loved the trailer of PoA... i really loved the choir's song. i > especially loved those large toads they were clutching. anyone notice > that one of the toads is beating its head to the beat of the music? ;p > > anyways, i was wondering if anyone has the complete lyrics of that > song? if you do, can you please post them? and is it true that the > line "something wicked this way comes" is from shakespeare? sorry, im > not familiar with his writings... :) > > --->Ben > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > Click to learn more... > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! 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The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Fri Nov 14 17:51:37 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:51:37 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? Message-ID: Okay. Sorry. I need some Clarification for all. Specifically. Scottish Play* Act I, Scene IV The witches sing a long and creepy song. Some of the lyrics of which have been extrapolated in the Azkaban trailer. I would highly recommend reading that scene, as the Witches' song is some of the most melodic poetry ever written. Mycropht > ---------- > From: Coble, Katherine > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:43 AM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? > > The lyrics to the song can be found in the Witches' scene in The Scottish > Play. > > > ---------- > > From: benigs > > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:39 AM > > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? > > > > hey! i loved the trailer of PoA... i really loved the choir's song. i > > especially loved those large toads they were clutching. anyone notice > > that one of the toads is beating its head to the beat of the music? ;p > > > > anyways, i was wondering if anyone has the complete lyrics of that > > song? if you do, can you please post them? and is it true that the > > line "something wicked this way comes" is from shakespeare? sorry, im > > not familiar with his writings... :) > > > > --->Ben > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material > from posts to which you're replying! > > Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List > Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From rvotaw at i-55.com Fri Nov 14 18:04:33 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (rvotaw at i-55.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:04:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? Message-ID: <9292150.1068833073255.JavaMail.root@webmail.i-55.com> Ben wrote: > anyways, i was wondering if anyone has the complete lyrics of that
> song? if you do, can you please post them? and is it true that the
> line "something wicked this way comes" is from shakespeare? sorry, im
> not familiar with his writings... :)
"Something Wicked this Way Comes" is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. The lyrics from the trailer are only part of it, here is (I think) all of it: Witch 1: Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd Witch 2: Thrice and once the hedge-pig whin'd Witch 3: Harper cries: 'Tis time, 'tis time. Witch 1: Round about the cauldron go; In the poison'd entrails throw. Toad, that under cold stone Days and nights hast thirty-one Swelter'd venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i' the charmed pot. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 2: Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt, and toe of frog, Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 3: Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf, Witches' mummy, maw and gulf Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark, Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark, Liver of blaspheming Jew, Gall of goat, and slips of yew Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse, Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips, Finger of birth-strangled babe Ditch-deliver'd by a drab, Make the gruel thick and slab: Add thereto a tiger's chaudron, For the ingredients of our cauldron. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 2: Cool it with a baboon's blood, Then the charm is firm and good. Hectate: O! well done! I commend your pains, And every one shall share i' the gains. And now about the cauldron sing, Like elves and fairies in a ring, Enchanting all that you put in. Witch 2: By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes. Richelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Fri Nov 14 19:22:35 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:22:35 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? Message-ID: I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THE "M" WORD!!! Mycropht > ---------- > From: rvotaw at i-55.com > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:04 PM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: re: [HPFGU-Movie] song lyrics? > > Ben wrote: > > > anyways, i was wondering if anyone has the complete lyrics of that
> > song? if you do, can you please post them? and is it true that the
> > line "something wicked this way comes" is from shakespeare? > sorry, > im
> > not familiar with his writings... :)
> > "Something Wicked this Way Comes" is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. The > lyrics > from the trailer are only part of it, here is (I think) all of it: > > Witch 1: Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd > Witch 2: Thrice and once the hedge-pig whin'd > Witch 3: Harper cries: 'Tis time, 'tis time. > > Witch 1: Round about the cauldron go; > In the poison'd entrails throw. > Toad, that under cold stone > Days and nights hast thirty-one > Swelter'd venom sleeping got, > Boil thou first i' the charmed pot. > > All: Double, double toil and trouble; > Fire burn and cauldron bubble. > > Witch 2: Fillet of a fenny snake, > In the cauldron boil and bake; > Eye of newt, and toe of frog, > Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, > Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting, > Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing, > For a charm of powerful trouble, > Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. > > All: Double, double toil and trouble; > Fire burn and cauldron bubble. > > Witch 3: Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf, > Witches' mummy, maw and gulf > Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark, > Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark, > Liver of blaspheming Jew, > Gall of goat, and slips of yew > Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse, > Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips, > Finger of birth-strangled babe > Ditch-deliver'd by a drab, > Make the gruel thick and slab: > Add thereto a tiger's chaudron, > For the ingredients of our cauldron. > > All: Double, double toil and trouble; > Fire burn and cauldron bubble. > > Witch 2: Cool it with a baboon's blood, > Then the charm is firm and good. > > Hectate: O! well done! I commend your pains, > And every one shall share i' the gains. > And now about the cauldron sing, > Like elves and fairies in a ring, > Enchanting all that you put in. > > Witch 2: By the pricking of my thumbs, > Something wicked this way comes. > > Richelle > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > Click to learn more... > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material > from posts to which you're replying! > > Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List > Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribing? 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From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Nov 14 19:39:13 2003 From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:39:13 -0000 Subject: Late views on the Trailer Message-ID: Look away if you can't take criticism. Look away if you feel the forthcoming movie is too sacred to be dissed. Yes, I know I'm really late off the mark. You see I was worried that this would happen and in cases like this I don't like being proved right. So I held back. So I finally downloaded the trailer today. What can I say? It's difficult to judge the film in the midst of the twee fest that is the trailer. What's with the sickening choir, the silly "something wicked this way comes" nonsense (said you wouldn't like my opinions)? Please Warner Brothers. Pixar manage the fundamental difference between what children and adults like quite competently - I refer you to "Finding Nemo" and all their other releases. These books are loved by adults and children alike for different reasons, but is there no room for the two together in your film making philosophy? I've felt hugely uncomfortable ever since I heard the sickeningly twee Richard Williams score for the movies and it isn't getting any better. I suspect Warners are behind this whole ethos, because Williams has written some thunderingly good film scores. I had high hopes for Cuaron - could he conceivably be worse than Columbus? I thought not, but I'm worried now. Prisoner was my hope that we'd finally get a film that was faithful to the books I love and why we're all here. It's the first one that showed some darker themes, and where some characters stopped being stereotypical and went 3-D. Frankly I'm not optimistic. If proved wrong, I will happily eat my hat complete with ketchup in cyber space for the edification of anyone who reads this. Sadly June From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 20:12:51 2003 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:12:51 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: <008d01c3aa56$23d86740$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Message-ID: > Susan: > Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing the distant castle. Both look like children; the GIRL has long dark bushy hair with a red hat (she does not appear to be Hermione, though) > > Taryn: > Why do you say that? She looks perfectly clear to be Hermione to me. *watches again* Yup... > > ---------- > Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net Me: I agree. I believe the two here are Hermione and Ron. The distant castle you speak of is the Shrieking shack. The noticeable space between Hermione and Ron could be.... Harry under Invisibility Cloak. We'll find out next summer. LOL Marci From grianne2 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 14 20:13:00 2003 From: grianne2 at yahoo.com (Annalisa Moretti) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:13:00 -0000 Subject: Late views on the Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "junediamanti" wrote: > I've felt hugely uncomfortable ever since I heard the sickeningly > twee Richard Williams score for the movies and it isn't getting any > better. I suspect Warners are behind this whole ethos, because > Williams has written some thunderingly good film scores. Actually the "twee" (I think you must like that word a lot!) composer you're thinking of is John Williams. I'm not a big fan of his; I don't think he's put out an original score since the 70s. But personally I think the Macbeth choir piece for the trailer is a VAST improvement over the repetitive, trite, formulaic work he did for PS (and which was then copied over by someone else for COS). At least it's something a little different, and I find that very encouraging. I think the choir is supposed to be one of the Christmas feast entertainments JKR describes in the books, or possibly something that goes along with Halloween during Black's rampage through Gryffindor Tower. However, in any case, if it is in the movie, I'm positive it will be in the background, offsetting some action or dialogue. Cuaron's whole approach to the books seems entirely different than Columbus, and I am greatful for that at the very least, even if I find problems with his interpretation ultimately. We can't always get what we want; and I think anyone expecting to get what they want might be spending a little too much time in a dream world. Maybe you should try watching the trailer with your speakers OFF? It might be beneficial. - Annalisa. From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Nov 14 20:37:59 2003 From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:37:59 -0000 Subject: Late views on the Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Annalisa Moretti" wrote: >> Maybe you should try watching the trailer with your speakers OFF? It > might be beneficial. > > - Annalisa. I meant John Williams - so sorry!!! As to the speakers - can't harm! June From mphunt at sprintmail.com Fri Nov 14 21:43:04 2003 From: mphunt at sprintmail.com (Tracy Hunt) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:43:04 -0000 Subject: Late views on the Trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Please Warner Brothers. Pixar manage the fundamental difference > between what children and adults like quite competently - I refer > you to "Finding Nemo" and all their other releases. These books are > loved by adults and children alike for different reasons, but is > there no room for the two together in your film making philosophy? Tcy (me): June, I had the same problems in the beginning...I so dearly loved the books that the only reason I saw the movies in the first place was for my kids (ages 12 & 6). My gut reaction to the movies was to retch...but then I realized that if I viewed them as a completely separate entity from the books...they weren't so bad. I still have my moments (Petunia being blond, Lucius uttering AK at Harry and now Lupin looking too much like Pettegrew for my taste)...but all in all, I try real hard to not compare them to the books. I am hopeful that in a few years (5-10, perhaps) some well-funded group (HBO if in the US or maybe even the BBC?) will take up the task of creating a film version that is *true* to the books, rather than a let's-hit-the-high-spots-on-film-so-we-can-cash-in-on-Pottermania. Good luck making it through the publicity until the film's release in June, 2004! Maybe we'll even have some good news about book 6 in the meantime? Tcy From lmbolland at earthlink.net Sat Nov 15 00:34:06 2003 From: lmbolland at earthlink.net (goodnight_moon5) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:34:06 -0000 Subject: the M word, was:Re: song lyrics? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, katherine.coble at c... wrote: > I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THE "M" WORD!!! > As none of us are performing the play, MacBeth, I think we should be safe in typing the name, MacBeth. :) LOL. I think the song (true, not in the book) was a nice touch and gave it a Roald Dahl-feel for me. My favorite Weird Sisters'line (yes, the three witches in MacBeth were the original Weird Sisters) from MacBeth is in the beginning of the play when they say (I'm going from memory) "When will we three meet again? In thunder, lightening, or in rain? When the hurly-burly's done. When the battle's lost... and won." Considering the story line: the three remaining marauders meeting again, a thunderstorm occurs as the students arrive at Hogwarts, the end of the book being a battle both lost and won - I think the MacBeth quote fits quite well. Lauri From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 02:45:11 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:45:11 -0000 Subject: re.the M word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Umm... Shakespere references in Harry Potter. Seems to me like the new director is making his mark. I think that mayby will can live in hope for some inprovement. Lets face it the movie can't get much worse though. Dean wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, katherine.coble at c... wrote: > > I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THE "M" WORD!!! > > > > > > As none of us are performing the play, MacBeth, I think we should be > safe in typing the name, MacBeth. :) LOL. I think the song (true, > not in the book) was a nice touch and gave it a Roald Dahl-feel for > me. My favorite Weird Sisters'line (yes, the three witches in > MacBeth were the original Weird Sisters) from MacBeth is in the > beginning of the play when they say (I'm going from memory) "When > will we three meet again? In thunder, lightening, or in rain? When > the hurly-burly's done. When the battle's lost... and won." > > Considering the story line: the three remaining marauders meeting > again, a thunderstorm occurs as the students arrive at Hogwarts, the > end of the book being a battle both lost and won - I think the > MacBeth quote fits quite well. > > Lauri From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 04:39:29 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:39:29 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Susan Atherton wrote: > Cut to a snowy HOGSMEADE, complete with wanted > poster for SIRIUS BLACK. Sirius is holding up >his Azkaban ID and snarling at the camera Sirius appears to be laughing really hard not snarling. >Neville looks scared. >Lupin looks - well, quite pervy, really. I couldn't see much of Lupin, but now that you mention it. Yeah, he does look a bit pervy. I just had a bad thought. If Lupin had been pervy that would have "complicated" Harry's private DADA tutoring. I wasn't able to download the trailer at first either. Instead of reading your post, I wanted until I could download it, but I saved your message just in case. Thank you for doing and posting this. Yolanda From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Sat Nov 15 08:20:22 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:20:22 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The trailer is here!!!!! References: <003e01c3a962$caf29310$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: <011701c3ab51$51715b70$67984cca@Monteith> > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ Ok. Bear in mind I am a computer nincompoop, so if this is a dumb question, just ignore me. I *finally* managed to see the trailer, and tried to save it to my 'puter in the WinMX Videos (which didn't work), then DL'd it a second time, also trying to save it, which didin't work either. ! *Can* I save it? *How* do I save it? Nox (the technologically challenged) From manda at qx.net Sat Nov 15 15:18:20 2003 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:18:20 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The trailer is here!!!!! In-Reply-To: <011701c3ab51$51715b70$67984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: <3FB5D33C.5325.3DEDA1@localhost> On 15 Nov 2003 at 18:20, silverdragon at ezweb.com.au wrote: > > > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ > > Ok. Bear in mind I am a computer nincompoop, so if this is a dumb > question, just ignore me. I *finally* managed to see the trailer, and > tried to save it to my 'puter in the WinMX Videos (which didn't work), > then DL'd it a second time, also trying to save it, which didin't work > either. ! *Can* I save it? *How* do I save it? I don't know anything about WinMX, but if you're downloading from the Leaky Cauldron links, right click on the link and select "Save target as..". Then save it to your desktop or wherever.. I hope that helps. Manda -- http://www.mandamia.com From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Sat Nov 15 12:45:17 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:45:17 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The trailer is here!!!!! References: <3FB5D33C.5325.3DEDA1@localhost> Message-ID: <001b01c3ab76$53bb4ba0$79984cca@Monteith> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Pressnell" > I don't know anything about WinMX, but if you're downloading from the Leaky Cauldron links, right click on the link and select "Save target as..". Then save it to your > desktop or wherever.. I hope that helps. > > Manda That's what I did, but it didn't work . Thanks anyway though. Nox From WFeuchter at msn.com Sat Nov 15 14:14:14 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:14:14 -0000 Subject: The trailer is here!!!!! In-Reply-To: <011701c3ab51$51715b70$67984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ > > Ok. Bear in mind I am a computer nincompoop, so if this is a dumb question, > just ignore me. I *finally* managed to see the trailer, and tried to save it > to my 'puter in the WinMX Videos (which didn't work), then DL'd it a second > time, also trying to save it, which didin't work either. ! *Can* I save > it? *How* do I save it? > > Nox (the technologically challenged) Unless they have changed how the file is handled, and they can prevent you from saving it, this is what I did. >From Leaky select Windows Media version (WMA) Select the high speed version, it takes longer to download, but the resolution is much better. Wnidows media player should open and play the trailer. After it is done select File/Save Media as and save it to the desktop for easy reference. Bill From coyoteschild at peoplepc.com Sat Nov 15 16:02:48 2003 From: coyoteschild at peoplepc.com (Iggy McSnurd) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:02:48 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The trailer is here!!!!! References: <3FB5D33C.5325.3DEDA1@localhost> <001b01c3ab76$53bb4ba0$79984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: <007701c3ab91$f08d3720$77f21d43@rick> > That's what I did, but it didn't work . Thanks anyway though. > > Nox Iggy here: Do you have QuickTime? (Or can you download it?) If so, you should probably be able to save a copy of the QuickTime format. Also (and I'll know this for sure in about a year, since I just started my classes to earn a BS in IT) is Win MX a Windows OS used mainly for businesses? If so, it may have a security function that prevents installation or saving of "recreation" style files that might interfere with people working. (Or, at least, ones that don't some from Microsoft themselves...) You can also let us know if your ISP will allow you to accept very large files, I'm sure someone might be willing to e-mail you a copy of the approx. 15 me., high res trailer file. (I might be able to send you the QuickTime full install file, but it's about the same size and will take me about an hour to download to you... I think. *grin* Not that much of a problem, since I can do it in the background.) Iggy McSnurd From bigredpanda at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 14:47:49 2003 From: bigredpanda at yahoo.com (bigredpanda) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:47:49 -0000 Subject: Trailer on the big screen! Message-ID: Okay, how many of you went to see the trailer in theaters last night? Confess! My kids wanted to see Looney Tunes anyway, which was actually pretty funny, and a bonus for all of us was the trailer on the big screen! Awesome! My daughter, she's 11 and has read all of the books at least twice, is a stickler for accuracy and complained about the student choir with the percussion frogs, but loved it otherwise. My son, he's only 7 but has been reading the books with Dad, loved the trailer but after seeing the dementer hand bigger than life states he'll wait for the video before watching the movie. I've read all the books twice and would love more accuracy in the movies, but understand the need to abbreviate the books and add visual elements that aren't possible in print, so was overall ecstatic to see what's been done. I can't wait for June 4!!!! It was a nice visual sampler of what is to come and I love the darkness of it. I think this will be a more mature look at HP than the first two films. BTW, my hubby, who is a fan but not obsessed like the rest of us, saw the trailer on-line and said, "Is that Hermione?" Snicker! Yeah, the girl is growing up, alright! Diane in Nebraska From sachmet96 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 15 16:57:28 2003 From: sachmet96 at yahoo.co.uk (sachmet96) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:57:28 -0000 Subject: The trailer is here!!!!! In-Reply-To: <011701c3ab51$51715b70$67984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ > > Ok. Bear in mind I am a computer nincompoop, so if this is a dumb question, > just ignore me. I *finally* managed to see the trailer, and tried to save it > to my 'puter in the WinMX Videos (which didn't work), then DL'd it a second > time, also trying to save it, which didin't work either. ! *Can* I save > it? *How* do I save it? > > Nox (the technologically challenged) Hi, I don't use WinMX but you might try to download it normally and then while the WinMX program is still open go to the Temporary Internet File folder (C:/WINDOWS/Temporary Internet Files (path will be something like that, depends on your computer). Look for a file with the extension wmv. Copy this file to another folder. It worked for me but I use WinMediaPlayer so I can't say if it will work for you but you can try. Btw. this was my first post on this forum, so hello everyone :-) Bye, sachmet96 From helen at odegard.com Sat Nov 15 21:39:55 2003 From: helen at odegard.com (Helen R. Granberry) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:39:55 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer on the big screen! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c3abc1$03461bf0$6401a8c0@helenw1> >Okay, how many of you went to see the trailer in theaters last night? Confess! *confesses* Although someone (Ixchelmala) talked the theatre manager into letting us in to see the trailer for free. She ended up doing this twice, as I joined the group late. The difference on the big screen is just amazing. The Dementor's hand is about a hundred times creepier. It's almost worth the price of admission for just that. I can totally understand the little one wanting to wait for video, lol. I love the choir. I don't see it as a huge canon contradiction, mainly because a choir is something that really wouldn't come across in print, but works beautifully on screen. My guess is that the choir is doing a Halloween performance and that the Macbeth witches song will be inter cut with Sirius Black slashing his way into Gryffindor tower. The surround sound... the images huge on the screen... if you are interested in the least in Looney Toons, go see it. If you think you can schmooze your way in for free, try that -- all they can do is say no. I believe Ix bought some movie passes to use later the first time. It's also worth asking if you can see the Looney Toons trailer, but watch a different movie. I think most theatre managers would go along with that one since you are purchasing a ticket. We weren't the only ones there to see the trailer -- there was a group of fangirls in front of us holding hands, freaking out and squeeing too. They did, apparently, buy tickets, because they were laughing at us when we left. Helen From tenpinkpiggies at hotmail.com Sat Nov 15 21:55:37 2003 From: tenpinkpiggies at hotmail.com (cornflower_o_shea) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:55:37 -0000 Subject: the M word, was:Re: song lyrics? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lauri wrote: > Considering the story line: the three remaining marauders meeting > again, a thunderstorm occurs as the students arrive at Hogwarts, the > end of the book being a battle both lost and won - I think the > MacBeth quote fits quite well. > > Lauri I really liked the Macbeth tie in too...lots of potential! I thought more of the idea of "loyalty in the face of power" as the shared theme. Every since ready Ray Bradbury at 13 the phrase "Something Wicked This Way Comes" has given me shivers. I'm glad it's dark, too...OOOOOH....I'm getting excited! Cornflower O'Shea From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Sat Nov 15 22:17:31 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:17:31 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The trailer is here!!!!! References: <3FB5D33C.5325.3DEDA1@localhost> <001b01c3ab76$53bb4ba0$79984cca@Monteith> <007701c3ab91$f08d3720$77f21d43@rick> Message-ID: <006901c3abc6$44107770$7e984cca@Monteith> Iggy wrote > Do you have QuickTime? (Or can you download it?) If so, you should > probably be able to save a copy of the QuickTime format. Nox here I can d'load it I guess. I imagine that if it isn't on the computer when I go to the site with the trailer and try to open the QT version, I'll get a pop-up or something, asking if I want to D'load QT. > Also (and I'll know this for sure in about a year, since I just started my > classes to earn a BS in IT) is Win MX a Windows OS used mainly for > businesses? If so, it may have a security function that prevents > installation or saving of "recreation" style files that might interfere with > people working. (Or, at least, ones that don't some from Microsoft > themselves...) Erm? Maybe? > You can also let us know if your ISP will allow you to accept very large > files, I'm sure someone might be willing to e-mail you a copy of the approx. > 15 me., high res trailer file. (I might be able to send you the QuickTime > full install file, but it's about the same size and will take me about an > hour to download to you... I think. *grin* Not that much of a problem, > since I can do it in the background.) I can accept v large files (or at least I could). Sent an e-mail from one computer to the other once (one was in the process of slow and painful death, and I sent all my files via email to the other computer - NO discs or CD's on hand, and death was imminent) that took over two hours to download, and the ISP didn't have apoplexy. I'll get my hubby (he's the computer-y person around here) to try save again later, with all the ideas in mind that I've gotten from the list now then I'll let you know if I want you to send the file. No point tying up your 'puter if he can figure something out... Thanks! Nox From sydpad at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 23:27:31 2003 From: sydpad at yahoo.com (Sydney) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:27:31 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oooh, thanks for that, Susan, very helpful! Just a quibble in the interests of zoology: > Cut to a roof-high POV of a snow-covered HOGSMEADE (recognisable by the wanted poster sign). One gentleman appears to be leading a yak somewhere. I belive that is actually a [a href="http://www.highlandcattlesociety.com/hbreedofcattle.asp"] Highland cow[/a], not too unusual a site even in Muggle Scotland. A yak would have been cool though! Sydney From nostrebor at runbox.com Sun Nov 16 00:11:08 2003 From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:11:08 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer on the big screen! References: Message-ID: <008601c3abd6$24e64e50$ead21943@user7i1hr4si1m> We just came back from a big theatre (Star Theatre), there was NO HPIII trailer! I asked when we purchased the tickets, the boy selling them said 'yes the trailer is there'. Well, needless to say, we got a refund. I have had no luck with the online versions either. I guess we'll try another theatre chain tomorrow. Jodi ----- Original Message ----- From: "bigredpanda" To: Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Trailer on the big screen! > Okay, how many of you went to see the trailer in theaters last night? > Confess! From twinslove at mindspring.com Sun Nov 16 05:04:35 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:04:35 -0000 Subject: The trailer is here!!!!! In-Reply-To: <011701c3ab51$51715b70$67984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/ > > Ok. Bear in mind I am a computer nincompoop, so if this is a dumb question, > just ignore me. I *finally* managed to see the trailer, and tried to save it > to my 'puter in the WinMX Videos (which didn't work), then DL'd it a second > time, also trying to save it, which didin't work either. ! *Can* I save > it? *How* do I save it? > > Nox (the technologically challenged)>> Hi Nox. I am new to the list, but thought I would chime in here. I was able to download from I *think* Godric's Hollow. It was a couple of days ago, of course, but they had a .zip form of it you can download. I was glad because my 5 year old son wanted to see it and he has watched it over and over since. LOL! If you want, I can email it to you? I had a hard time finding it again to download it on my laptop, but I have it saved on desktop. I don't know if this list allows us to upload files, because I could do that as well in case others want it for their computer. Just a suggestion. Kimberly From lunalovegood at shaw.ca Sun Nov 16 05:59:46 2003 From: lunalovegood at shaw.ca (dan) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 05:59:46 -0000 Subject: re.the M word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dean wrote: > Umm... Shakespere references in Harry Potter. Seems to me like the > new director is making his mark. > > I think that mayby will can live in hope for some inprovement. Lets > face it the movie can't get much worse though. Shakespeare: >"When >will we three meet again? In thunder, lightening, or in rain? When >the hurly-burly's done. When the battle's lost... and won." Lauri: > MacBeth quote fits quite well. Goodness me, Columbus is a trite director - like he was afraid of stepping too boldly or something, so he opted for lame. Cauron doesn't seem to have done that, don't you all think? And, the best to ask for is a film that is a work of art in it's own right, as Jackson has so ably done with LoTR. To ask for a film that slavishly follows the line of a book is a pretty silly thing to do anyway - I mean, why make a film at all if it's just the book? I don't get it... What movie has ever been just a slavish retelling of a book? Examples, please. (There are NONE.) When Jackson canned most of the kitschy singing Hobbits in favour of choral iterations, I knew he was dead on - a "true" rendition of that series would have been very, very, very droll. (Witness the little snip of singing in the extended version of Fellowship.) As for the choir - I thought it was absolutely wonderful. For one thing, it does at least give an opportunity to show, more than at the start and end of year feasts, that there are more than 20 kids in the school. It plays on the traditional image of witchcraft and wizardry, just as Rowling does. It supplies a kind of Greek chorus, which can occur in novels on many levels, in narrative styles or techniques, which need to be translated somehow to film. (Indeed, how can a film, with a narrator, fulfill the narrative role of a book? Or without a narrator? It literally cannot do either, unless its someone reading the book aloud to the actions of people in front of a camera, or something.) It's indeed rather sinister, either directly or by juxtaposition, as children's choirs often are in film - the choir in Rhapsody in August singing a playground tune around the monument (a set of half melted climbing bars) to the dead at Nagasaki, the Harlem boys choir in the film Glory, and so forth. In other words, "faithfulness" to a book by a director literally cannot occur - the director chooses to incorporate parts of the narrative in various ways. Asking a film to be "true" to a book is like asking a refridgerator to get 40 kilometres to the litre. dan From swmil at msn.com Sun Nov 16 06:17:47 2003 From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:17:47 -0000 Subject: I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many times I've watched them. I actually watched the movies BEFORE I ever read the books. I love to read, but I resisted reading Harry Potter because it was "too" popular and I thought everyone was just a little wierd about it. When my boys and I went to see the movie, I ended up being the one who liked it best of all! I then rushed out to buy the first book. I began to read the books to my boys, but quickly bought the other books and read ahead of them. So, I truly don't feel the first two movies were that bad. They got me to read the books that I had resisted reading, and I was thoroughly enchanted by them! I'm hoping that the third will be just as magical. From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 16 06:14:42 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:14:42 -0000 Subject: re.the M word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do you think JKR has told the director what will happen in future books. If so the Macbeth reference is the trailer could have a deeper meaning Macbeth was a brave and loyal warrior until he was corupted by power and the dark arts. There are 2 charactures that i can think that this might be reflected in. The first one is quite clearly Tom Riddle. From what we know he was an excelent student until he was corupted by the dark arts. Once he had power he would do anything to hold on to it. The seconds one i think im been a bit stupid but here we go..... Ron... He is a brave and loyal soilder to harry but there is a great deal of envy there. Ron wants to gain fame for him self but what lengths will he go to gain it. Please reply and tell me im been stupid rons one of my fac people in the book Dean From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Sun Nov 16 09:43:58 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:43:58 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The trailer is here!!!!! References: Message-ID: <002001c3ac26$29693000$79984cca@Monteith> > > Hi Nox. I am new to the list, but thought I would chime in here. > I was able to download from I *think* Godric's Hollow. It was > a couple of days ago, of course, but they had a .zip form of it > you can download. I was glad because my 5 year old son wanted to > see it and he has watched it over and over since. LOL! If you > want, I can email it to you? I had a hard time finding it again > to download it on my laptop, but I have it saved on desktop. I > don't know if this list allows us to upload files, because I could > do that as well in case others want it for their computer. Just > a suggestion. Actually it would be great if you could email it to me directly. My kids want to watch it over and over again too . Not to mention their Mum... I'm loath to download it again from thr net as I've *killed* my download limit for the month . Gotta love a 56k dial-up... Nox From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Sun Nov 16 10:02:14 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:02:14 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! References: Message-ID: <00a301c3ac28$b6506fe0$79984cca@Monteith> > > When my boys and I went to see the movie, I ended up being the one > who liked it best of all! I then rushed out to buy the first book. I > began to read the books to my boys, but quickly bought the other > books and read ahead of them. So, I truly don't feel the first two > movies were that bad. They got me to read the books that I had > resisted reading, and I was thoroughly enchanted by them! I'm hoping > that the third will be just as magical. Sounds like me! I avoided Harry Potter like the plague out of the perverse aversion to anything popular... But when I saw the movies (actually I had the books stashed in the cupboard ready to give my daughter for Xmas before the CoS came out. I just thought it would be rude to read them before I gave them to her ) I became a fan. Nox From joj at rochester.rr.com Sun Nov 16 14:55:42 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:55:42 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: re.the M word References: Message-ID: <007001c3ac51$b5462f30$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean The seconds one i think im been a bit stupid but here we go..... Ron... He is a brave and loyal soilder to harry but there is a great deal of envy there. Ron wants to gain fame for him self but what lengths will he go to gain it. I really can't see that happening, but I can see Ron making a huge error in judgement, causing a lot of damage, based on those feelings. However, those feelings of envy and the way Ron feels about being poor and not special, have been all but left out of the movies. I really hope Cuaron adds some depth to Ron. Ron's not my favorite character in the books, but even I didn't like the way he was portrayed in COS. He's a lot more than a punchline! Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Sun Nov 16 18:39:49 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:39:49 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: whizbee2000 [mailto:swmil at msn.com] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:18 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many times I've watched them. >> Well, if it makes you feel better, I loved the first two movies and have watched them quite a few times too. I have both movies on DVD, and my son and I love watching them. I, too, watched the first movie before reading the books, and feel in love with the books afterwards. Now I have a complete set for my two 5 year olds. In fact, when I was reading OoP, my son kept reminding me to take care of the book as it is really his book. LOL! I am very excited about the third movie, and I loved the trailer too (choir and all). JMO. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From WFeuchter at msn.com Sun Nov 16 19:34:22 2003 From: WFeuchter at msn.com (hpoldfan) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:34:22 -0000 Subject: I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: whizbee2000 [mailto:swmil at m...] > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:18 AM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! > > > Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by > the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally > have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many > times I've watched them. >> > > Well, if it makes you feel better, I loved the first two movies and have > watched them quite a few > times too. I have both movies on DVD, and my son and I love watching > them. I, too, watched > the first movie before reading the books, and feel in love with the books > afterwards. Now I have > a complete set for my two 5 year olds. In fact, when I was reading OoP, > my son kept reminding > me to take care of the book as it is really his book. LOL! I am very > excited about the third movie, > and I loved the trailer too (choir and all). JMO. > Kimberly > Here Here! From flitwicksman at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 00:53:57 2003 From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:53:57 -0000 Subject: I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! In-Reply-To: <00a301c3ac28$b6506fe0$79984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: > > Sounds like me! I avoided Harry Potter like the plague out of the perverse > aversion to anything popular... But when I saw the movies (actually I had > the books stashed in the cupboard ready to give my daughter for Xmas before > the CoS came out. I just thought it would be rude to read them before I gave > them to her ) I became a fan. > > Nox And me. I had heard about these books about a boy wizard who goes to a wizarding school (mainly because of some of the controversies surrounding them) but did not think too much of them accept that they were "children's books". I saw the first movie on DVD and thought it was a fun movie but did not watch it again for awhile. At the push of a friend, I went to see COS at the theater last year and enjoyed it enough to buy the first book and see if I might like it too. Before I was done with the first book, I went out and bought the other three (followed by the smaller books for Comic Relief) and could not put them down. I am now in my tenth reading of SS/PS, have read COS, POA and GOF nine times and OOP five (after being one of the many fanatics at a local midnight release party this past June). This does not include the many times I have listened to the books on CD. I have never had a set of books effect me as these have. In this past year, I have also gotten ahold of many HP collectables of which our home can now rightfully be called the "Harry Potter Central for Greater Tulsa". I get teased at work with the number of HP related things I have at my desk (and I will immedeately show them my watch and key-ring). And of course, I enjoy the movies too (but I am most grateful to them for introducing me to the books). We saw COS two more times at the theater before getting the DVD and have watched it too many times to number. And we cannot wait for the POA movie. Yeah, it's an obsession but it sure is a fun obsession! Brian:-) From spicecow at hotmail.com Mon Nov 17 01:51:12 2003 From: spicecow at hotmail.com (Nik A) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:51:12 +1000 Subject: Ray Bradbury/Cuaron's style Message-ID: Cornflower O'Shea wrote: > >I really liked the Macbeth tie in too...lots of potential! I thought >more of the idea of "loyalty in the face of power" as the shared >theme. Every since ready Ray Bradbury at 13 the phrase "Something >Wicked This Way Comes" has given me shivers. I'm glad it's dark, >too...OOOOOH....I'm getting excited! > I'm glad someone else mentioned Ray Bradbury - as brilliant as Macbeth is, the book 'Something Wicked This Way Comes' is always the first thing I think of when I hear that phrase, and the first thing I thought of when I heard it in the trailer. I think Cuaron's style has a Bradbury sort of feel to it as well, it's dark and foreboding but also quite beautiful and mysterious, slightly unnerving but draws you right in just like the Dark Carnival in the book. I wonder if Cuaron has read the book or it was unintentional and he only meant it to be a Macbeth reference. Anyway I can't wait for the movie. I'm not too fussed about them leaving this part and that part out of the story, when I go to see a movie, I go to see a movie, not a book onscreen. My gripe with the HP movies has always been that, as films, they've concentrated too much on plot and cramming in as much story as possible, a lot of it unnecessary, had waaaaay to much expositional dialogue (which is due to just plain laziness in my opinion), and have been visually cliched ('hey, let's shoot Lucius from a low angle and bathe him in shadow in every scene, just in case the audience hasn't yet realised that he's EVIL')and the cinematography etc has often been static, repetitive and boring. Cuaron seems to have solved this problem and is showing us the story, not telling us (which, and I know I'll probably have to duck rotten fruit here, after reading those huge chunks of unending description in Book 5, I reckon J.K. Rowling could probably learn to do a bit better herself). I think this is already my favourite HP movie and I haven't even seen it yet! - Ash's Evil Hand _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp From BrenErik at aol.com Mon Nov 17 04:32:49 2003 From: BrenErik at aol.com (BrenErik at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:32:49 EST Subject: Lupin Pics Message-ID: <6e.34adcfe8.2ce9a971@aol.com> Remus is definitely one of my favorite characters. I have to admit that it pains me to see pics of him from the movie though !! This has got to be the worst: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0304141/C517-30.jpg?path=gallery& path_key=0304141 What in the world is he doing????? I'm trying to remember the scene in the Shrieking Shack and can't quite pinpoint what this is. On the other hand, this still of Sirius very closely meshes with the Sirius in my head. Regardless of how goofy Lupin seems to be so far I cannot wait until June !!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From HimemyaUtena at aol.com Mon Nov 17 06:10:06 2003 From: HimemyaUtena at aol.com (HimemyaUtena at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:10:06 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! Message-ID: <7F214FA1.02ECF777.1E595A1B@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/2003 1:17:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, swmil at msn.com writes: [whizbee] > I actually watched the movies BEFORE I ever read the books. I love to > read, but I resisted reading Harry Potter because it was "too" > popular and I thought everyone was just a little wierd > about it. I think that is the key to really enjoying a movie based on a book. I read an interview with the producer of a movie based on a book, and he said something that I very much agree with. If you ever have the choice of watching the movie or reading the book first (which, obviously is not the case for this movie for anyone on this list) then watch the movie first. The movie cannot help but be a condenced version of the book. So, when you watch the movie first, then read the book, you're going from a smaller scale to a larger scale, and can find both enjoyable. If you read the book first, then watch the movie, you're going the other way, from a larger scale to a smaller scale, and the movie is therefor less satisfying. This is the reason that I will not read Return of the King until after I have seen the movie. I don't mind the changes made in the Two Towers. But I probably would have minded if I had gone into it with expectations from the book. Adrianna From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 06:40:33 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:40:33 -0000 Subject: Ray Bradbury/Cuaron's style In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greatings fellow eggheads > Anyway I can't wait for the movie. I'm not too fussed about them leaving > this part and that part out of the story, when I go to see a movie, I go to > see a movie, not a book onscreen. My gripe with the HP movies has always > been that, as films, they've concentrated too much on plot and cramming in > as much story as possible, a lot of it unnecessary, had waaaaay to much > expositional dialogue (which is due to just plain laziness in my opinion), I think the problem with the first two movies is that the harry potter books did 2 things very well, first they had a very good plot and secondly the magical world is so interesting that i could read about it all day with out any plot. I think the movies tried do do both of these things and as a result failed at both. I think for a Harry Potter film to be well made the only focas can be the plot and judging by the trailer( i know its not much to go on) that is what is been done. The also helps that POA is the most plot driven book so far. In GOF most of the screen time will be taken up by the tri wizard comp and voldie just happens to appear at the end. If you can make a coherent plot line out of OotF let me know ( don' attack me i loved it i just think it will make a bad movie) > and have been visually cliched ('hey, let's shoot Lucius from a low angle > and bathe him in shadow in every scene, just in case the audience hasn't yet > realised that he's EVIL')and the cinematography etc has often been static, > repetitive and boring. Cuaron seems to have solved this problem and is > showing us the story, not telling us I couldnt agree more the first to films have been very pretty to look at but thats about all, they ave none of the depth that i can already see in POA, ( or mayby im just seeing what i want to) >which, and I know I'll probably have > to duck rotten fruit here, after reading those huge chunks of unending > description in Book 5, I reckon J.K. Rowling could probably learn to do a > bit better herself). I think this is already my favourite HP movie and I > haven't even seen it yet! > > - Ash's Evil Hand i disagree with you a bit here i find in novels good authors can get way with unending descriptions it's just that waffle dosnt translate well into film The only thing that could destroy POA for me is my unrealistic expectations DEAN From SnapesRaven at web.de Mon Nov 17 06:27:20 2003 From: SnapesRaven at web.de (SnapesRaven) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:27:20 -0000 Subject: PoA teaser: "Something wicked this way comes" Message-ID: Good morning! I'm new to this group because I accidentally made a mistake by posting this to the book discussion list so I was asked to go here with this. I wonder whether this has been discussed here before but since the trailer's release at the WB site only little time has passed so I hope this idea is a new one. :) I downloaded the teaser yesterday and wonder whether or not you agree with me that the omen 'something wicked this way comes' is pointing to the obvious but false assumption that the danger for Harry is caused by Sirius' appearance at Hogwarts. I howled with laughter when I heard the choir sing this line in exactly the same moment as the Boggart 'Snape' exited the wardrobe. Snape does look 'wicked' indeed in this scene (and I'm sure some slashy shippers will be very glad about this 'coincidence'). Later I searched the web for a similar songtext and indeed found a song with this title by a group called "Siouxsie and the Banshees". That's interesting, isn't it? The banshee is known as a magical creature and some kind of a death omen (weeps beneath a window when someone's going to die). It is quite fitting, I think, because with Wormtail's escape in the end of part 3, the table seems to turn for the good and the bad guys. Below, I have copied the above mentioned songtext and think that the text fits really well! (I'd love to say my bit about each poaragraph, but I'm running short in time right at the moment! I'll do this later.) --- >Something strange is happening My bones do ache and my ears, they do ring I could pull and tear my skin I hear and smell and I want to scream The whispering and a scratching to be let in >From outside and from within By the pricking of my thumbs Something wicked this way comes There's something evil on the wing Something wicked is fast approaching Rushing through a hidden wind Nothing good is what's in store It's nothing new and it's rotten to the core And a-howling at my door We're dragged helpless in the undertow The quicksand surround and swallow us whole By the pricking of my thumbs Something wicked this way comes Just around the bend Rushing on the wind Here it comes Here it comes< --- I know it isn't likely to be the text the choir is singing, but I understood the words 'horrible' and 'terrible' and at least they match the content of this songtext. Opinions, everyone? (I'm sorry if I didn't make everything quite as clear as I should have. But I don't have any more time right now.) Have a nice day, SnapesRaven *fluttering onto her Master's shoulder after a short rest on the 'Hogsmeade' signpost* *~wicked~ grin* From amani at charter.net Mon Nov 17 11:41:14 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:41:14 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA teaser: "Something wicked this way comes" References: Message-ID: <002301c3acff$b5877fe0$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> SnapesRaven: Later I searched the web for a similar songtext and indeed found a song with this title by a group called "Siouxsie and the Banshees". That's interesting, isn't it? The banshee is known as a magical creature and some kind of a death omen (weeps beneath a window when someone's going to die). It is quite fitting, I think, because with Wormtail's escape in the end of part 3, the table seems to turn for the good and the bad guys. I know it isn't likely to be the text the choir is singing, but I understood the words 'horrible' and 'terrible' and at least they match the content of this songtext. Taryn: Indeed, it isn't. The text they sing is taken from MacBeth, for reference. (It's been discussed a little...I don't have the Act&Scene off the top of my head, but it should be easy enough to find in the list archive or on the net.) ---------- Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 17 14:52:40 2003 From: kirst_inn at yahoo.co.uk (kirst_inn) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:52:40 -0000 Subject: Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: <6e.34adcfe8.2ce9a971@aol.com> Message-ID: BrenErik wrote: > Remus is definitely one of my favorite characters. I have to admit that it pains me to see pics of him from the movie though>> Oh, me too. And I've worked out exactly why. Somehow, with the 'tasche and the awkward stance he looks exactly like the head master from Ferris Bueller's Day Off... http://www.videoeta.com/person/738 WRONG kind of teacher image. WRONG. Kirstini From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Mon Nov 17 14:52:42 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:52:42 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the M word, was:Re: song lyrics? SPOILERS Message-ID: Other links with TSP (sorry, can't say it...Especially not after the uproariously fussy scenes in Blackadder...) SPOILERS 1. "Fair is foul and foul is fair" A nice description of the turnabout with Scabbers (beloved pet "fair" becomes "foul") and Sirius (evil convict "foul" becomes "fair") 2. Prophecy The witches' prophecy is the spoke on which the play turns. The role of prophecy in the life Harry Potter begins to come to light in POA. In OotP we see just HOW affected he is, like M, by the prophecy of a mad witch(es) 3. Familiars The witches address their familiars and their abilities to transform into animals in several places--beginning with the opening chorus, and throughout the play. Other than McGonagal's transformation into a cat at the beginning of SS/PS, this book deals most intriguingly with animal transformation thorughout. Just some thoughts. > ---------- > From: cornflower_o_shea > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 3:55 PM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the M word, was:Re: song lyrics? > > Lauri wrote: > > Considering the story line: the three remaining marauders meeting > > again, a thunderstorm occurs as the students arrive at Hogwarts, > the > > end of the book being a battle both lost and won - I think the > > MacBeth quote fits quite well. > > > > Lauri > > I really liked the Macbeth tie in too...lots of potential! I thought > more of the idea of "loyalty in the face of power" as the shared > theme. Every since ready Ray Bradbury at 13 the phrase "Something > Wicked This Way Comes" has given me shivers. I'm glad it's dark, > too...OOOOOH....I'm getting excited! > > Cornflower O'Shea > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! This group contains spoilers! > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material > from posts to which you're replying! > > Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List > Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Mon Nov 17 15:05:27 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:05:27 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA teaser: "Something wicked this way comes" Message-ID: > Good morning! > > I'm new to this group because I accidentally made a mistake by > posting this to the book discussion list so I was asked to go here > with this. ----- Mycropht: Oddly enough, with the text of the song being from Act IV Scene 1 of a play by Shakespeare involving a Scotsman and his desire to become King, the booklist and the movie list are kind of having a crossover moment. I tend to follow the booklist more closely, but I'm finding myself getting more geared up for the movie every day. Personally, I think that the "Something Wicked" could be referring to any number of twists and turns at this point in the story. [SPOILER] I especially love the way they are marketing the movie, because if you haven't read the books, you will indeed assume that Sirius Black is the "Something Wicked". You'll have no idea about the monumental twists. I'm geeked! Mycropht ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From tmarends at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 16:26:21 2003 From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:26:21 -0000 Subject: I've always loved the visual of seeing the movie! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was like you. I saw the first film first and then picked up the books. I am in no way disappointed with the first two films. I thought they were well done. The only critism I have is in the second film the whole "mudblood" thing was downplayed so you didn't realise the significance of Justin and Colin being petrified. Other than that it followed the storyline nicely. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "whizbee2000" wrote: > Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by > the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally > have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many > times I've watched them. > > I actually watched the movies BEFORE I ever read the books. I love to > read, but I resisted reading Harry Potter because it was "too" > popular and I thought everyone was just a little wierd about it. > > When my boys and I went to see the movie, I ended up being the one > who liked it best of all! I then rushed out to buy the first book. I > began to read the books to my boys, but quickly bought the other > books and read ahead of them. So, I truly don't feel the first two > movies were that bad. They got me to read the books that I had > resisted reading, and I was thoroughly enchanted by them! I'm hoping > that the third will be just as magical. From liz at studylink.com Mon Nov 17 08:25:37 2003 From: liz at studylink.com (liz) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:25:37 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: <6e.34adcfe8.2ce9a971@aol.com> Message-ID: on 17/11/03 5:32 am, BrenErik at aol.com at BrenErik at aol.com wrote: > Remus is definitely one of my favorite characters. I have to admit that it > pains me to see pics of him from the movie though !! This has got to be the > worst: > > http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0304141/C517-30.jpg?path=gallery& > path_key=0304141 > > What in the world is he doing????? I'm trying to remember the scene in the > Shrieking Shack and can't quite pinpoint what this is. On the other hand, > this > still of Sirius very closely meshes with the Sirius in my head. Regardless > of how goofy Lupin seems to be so far I cannot wait until June !!! Wow, I'm amazed by how many people seem to dislike David Thewlis! If you're basing this only on the few images that have been released so far I wouldn't worry. I agree they are not the best shots, but I have admired David as an actor for years and I have no doubts that he will be awesome. I was so happy when I heard he was going to be playing Lupin (who is one of my favourite characters too). He is perfect, perfect for the role! I recently saw his newest film 'Cheeky' at the London Film Festival which he acted in and directed, and he did a Q&A with the audience afterwards and he also came across as really funny and a lovely person. If you want to see how good he can be I would suggest checking out some of his other films, particularly Mike Leigh's 'Naked' which is the one that pretty much cemented his reputation here in England. Alan Rickman, Gary Oldman and David Thewlis together in the Shrieking Shack is going to be AMAZING and I for one can't wait!! Liz From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Mon Nov 17 17:10:31 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] I've always loved the visual of seeing the movi e! Message-ID: Whizbee writes: > Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by > the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally > have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many > times I've watched them. > My personal opinion is that it really matters which came first--the movie or the book. If you saw the movie(s) first, you have a good introduction to the characters, and a thrilling, rich visual context. However, if you read the book(s) first, as I did, you are caught up in "Oh! they changed my favourite part!" and "Where are Fred and George?" and "How come Harry's week at the Burrow is condensed into a 30-second breakfast?" The first time I saw COS I had just come off re-reading the books for the 9th time in anticipation of the movie. I was SO let down by the movie's (non) depiction of scenes. The problem with CC's direction, as I see it, is that he was doing such a slavish adaptation that he wasn't making a true MOVIE. He made a filmic adaptation of book abridgements--far different from making a movie based on a book. COS was a better filmic adaptation than PS/SS. I've watched in again in the last month, before re-reading the books (I read them every May and October). Neverless, it lacked so much spice. > I'm hoping > that the third will be just as magical. > > I personally think that the 3rd will be the first true "movie", with movie themes and pacing. I think it will be much better. Mycropht ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Mon Nov 17 17:12:54 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:12:54 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin Pics Message-ID: I always think of Lupin as more of a shabby, down-on-his-luck, avuncular type. These pictures make him look like one step away from the Thriller video. > ---------- > From: BrenErik at aol.com > Reply To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:32 PM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Lupin Pics > > Remus is definitely one of my favorite characters. I have to admit that > it > pains me to see pics of him from the movie though !! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From katherine.coble at crgibson.com Mon Nov 17 17:23:47 2003 From: katherine.coble at crgibson.com (katherine.coble at crgibson.com) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:23:47 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: re.the M word Message-ID: Dean writes: > Do you think JKR has told the director what will happen in future > books. > Mycropht: IIRC, she's told Steve Kloves things on a need-to-know basis, but I truly doubt she's given Cuaron any inside scoop. He's (Cuaron) said that he was only ever on board for this film. That makes sense. This is the easiest book to translate to the screen of the Canon (so far), and the one more suited to Cuaron's style. Dean again: > If so the Macbeth reference is the trailer could have a deeper meaning > > Macbeth was a brave and loyal warrior until he was corupted by power > and the dark arts. > > There are 2 charactures that i can think that this might be reflected > in. > > The first one is quite clearly Tom Riddle. > > Ron... He is a brave and loyal soilder to harry but there is a great > deal of envy there. > Mycropht again: Well, since Ron is my favourite non-Harry character, I sincerely hope that you are wrong. In all honesty, to be slavish in detail to TSP, Harry would be the one corrupted. I truly do not see her going that way with it. I really think that Cuaron or Kloves or both probably are drawing on the Shakespearean elements of this one book in order to create a movie with deeper context. When you think about it, using TSP as framework is really an elegant idea. There are so many elements of the play that work against this one story. I think personally, however, that Harry's role over the larger story arc is to unify the Magical world by ridding it of false caste systems. More Ghandi than the Thane of Cawdor. As far as Ron's "evil"goes, I don't think we'll see that. I truly don't. I am more inclined to think that we will learn that James was a Slytherin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Mon Nov 17 19:02:10 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:02:10 -0000 Subject: Late comments on teaser Message-ID: Well, it's Monday evening (in Sweden) and I've only just seen the trailer! I don't have acces to a computer at home, and today I had to scour the school for one that had any kind of program installed that would allow me to watch it! My hard work paid off, and I've had a chance to enjoy it thouroughly. And I REALLY DID enjoy it! It just looks and feels VERY promising! Most of the posters on this list have probably already voiced their opinions, so I'll not elaborate too much. As for the choir singing: I'm not sure this will be part of the movie proper. I can't see the plot pausing for a bit of choir singing. My theory is that this part was staged specifically for the trailer. If not, it could turn up as part of the opening credits of the movie. My favourite shot of the trailer is that of (what I presume to be) Harry preparing to battle the boggart. Did you see the look on his face?(Of course you did.) I thought it such a brilliantly nuanced look of fear and "bracing oneself" compared to the "big-eye-fear" faces he made in CoS. (Anybody with me?) It'll be terrific to see how our young trio have developed as actors under Cuarons guidance. About Boggart-Snape striding out from the cupboard, (that shot before his "transformation") my first reaction was: Yow, baby!! I admire Rickman, but I've never really caught on to what could be attractive about him as Snape--until I saw that shot. And Dumbledore-Gambon: How cool is he? June is just too far away. Just my two sickles Sophia From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 21:15:57 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:15:57 -0000 Subject: Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: katherine.coble at c... wrote: > I always think of Lupin as more of a shabby, down-on-his-luck, avuncular > type. These pictures make him look like one step away from the Thriller > video. Same here. I always pictured him as "shabby" as well. I was thinking threadbare robes, patched up suitcases and a too thin frame. Of course, after being at Hogwarts for awhile the houseelves would have fattened him up and a steady paycheck would improve his warddrobe, but still I want his "introduction" to show a "down-on-his-luck" wizard. So far, the stills show him at Hogwarts not on the Express, so I still have hope for a "shabby" Lupin, but right now it is a slim one. I do think the stills we've seen so far are possibly just bad shots. Plus, I know from experience that a still doesn't do justice to the real performance, so I'm not too worried. I think "vincentjh" already mentioned that he looked like "one of those poor intellectures from late 19th century (or early 20th)". The brief look I got at him from the trailer seems to lean towards this. Since so much of the Wizarding World's look/style has been taken from that period, I guess it kind of fits to interpret his character that way. Yolanda From silverdragon at ezweb.com.au Mon Nov 17 23:17:05 2003 From: silverdragon at ezweb.com.au (silverdragon at ezweb.com.au) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:17:05 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA teaser: "Something wicked this way comes" References: <002301c3acff$b5877fe0$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Message-ID: <005301c3ad60$eb481020$77984cca@Monteith> > > Taryn: > Indeed, it isn't. The text they sing is taken from MacBeth, for reference. (It's been discussed a little...I don't have the Act&Scene off the top of my head, but it should be easy enough to find in the list archive or on the net.) Someone sent tjis to another list... Nox "Something Wicked this Way Comes" is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. The lyrics from the trailer are only part of it, here is (I think) all of it: Witch 1: Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd Witch 2: Thrice and once the hedge-pig whin'd Witch 3: Harper cries: 'Tis time, 'tis time. Witch 1: Round about the cauldron go; In the poison'd entrails throw. Toad, that under cold stone Days and nights hast thirty-one Swelter'd venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i' the charmed pot. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 2: Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt, and toe of frog, Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 3: Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf, Witches' mummy, maw and gulf Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark, Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark, Liver of blaspheming Jew, Gall of goat, and slips of yew Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse, Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips, Finger of birth-strangled babe Ditch-deliver'd by a drab, Make the gruel thick and slab: Add thereto a tiger's chaudron, For the ingredients of our cauldron. All: Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Witch 2: Cool it with a baboon's blood, Then the charm is firm and good. Hectate: O! well done! I commend your pains, And every one shall share i' the gains. And now about the cauldron sing, Like elves and fairies in a ring, Enchanting all that you put in. Witch 2: By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes. From rvotaw at i-55.com Tue Nov 18 02:11:15 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:11:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Late comments on teaser References: Message-ID: <021e01c3ad79$3f800b30$b2a0cdd1@RVotaw> Sophia wrote: > My favourite shot of the trailer is that of (what I presume to be) Harry preparing > to battle the boggart. Did you see the look on his face?(Of course you did.) I > thought it such a brilliantly nuanced look of fear and "bracing oneself" > compared to the "big-eye-fear" faces he made in CoS. (Anybody with me?) It'll > be terrific to see how our young trio have developed as actors under Cuarons > guidance. I had to comment on this, as I totally agree. The expression on his face is absolutely perfect. You can almost feel what he's thinking, trying to block out screams, not wanting to hear it anymore, trying to focus on a happy thought, it's perfect. Brilliant. I'm impressed. Richelle From Erthena at aol.com Tue Nov 18 06:00:28 2003 From: Erthena at aol.com (werebearloony) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:00:28 -0000 Subject: book or movie first (WAS: I've always loved the visual of seeing...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, katherine.coble at c... wrote: > > > Whizbee writes: > > > Okay, something is bugging me. I know lots of people are bothered by > > the 1st and 2nd movies being "Chris Columbus-ized"...but I personally > > have thought both of them were great! I've lost count of how many > > times I've watched them. > > > My personal opinion is that it really matters which came first-- the movie or > the book. > > If you saw the movie(s) first, you have a good introduction to the > characters, and a thrilling, rich visual context. > > However, if you read the book(s) first, as I did, you are caught up in "Oh! > they changed my favourite part!" and > "Where are Fred and George?" and "How come Harry's week at the Burrow is > condensed into a 30-second breakfast?" > > The first time I saw COS I had just come off re-reading the books for the > 9th time in anticipation of the movie. I was SO > let down by the movie's (non) depiction of scenes. The problem with CC's > direction, as I see it, is that he was doing such > a slavish adaptation that he wasn't making a true MOVIE. > > I'm hoping > > that the third will be just as magical. > Mycropht Now me (loony): Personally, I prefer to read a book before I see the movie of it. I find that if see the movie first i'm constantly comparing the book to the movie and seeing things as the director (conceptual artist, set designer, ect.) saw it. The worst part for me is when I'm reading the book and I hear lines from the movie in my head (I'm an auditory thinker so I really think how things should *sound). That aside, I treat movies as someone else's different conception of the same work, so it shouldn't be exactly the same and I like comparing the differences. I also love the look of the movies, they're beautiful, and I like seeing how it looks because I'm sound orientated, so I get annoyed with how they *say* the lines, not what the castle looks like. ~~loony PS: TSP is my favorite Shakespere tragedy, both to perform and to see. So I loved the trailer. But I won't discuss it out loud anymore because my play opens friday and I'm scared of what will happen if I say the name. From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Tue Nov 18 13:56:57 2003 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:57 -0000 Subject: Late comments on teaser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm commenting on my own comment since there were a few things I forgot to include yesterday, but first, a couple of questions: What does "twee" mean? I think I know what TSP refers to, but what does it stand for? On to comments: There have been several posts recently about book-film correspondence, which is as it should be. I'd just like to say generally, that although at the beginning I longed for all my favourite bits to be included and for the movie to be as close to the book as possible, I'm now beginning to change my mind. On non-hp matters, I've always been of the opinion that the original is always best, and nothing else can be expected, i.e. books are always better than movies made from them, movies are always better than books written from the movie (more rare, but it happens.) Books and movies require such widely differing storytelling techniques that the only true-to-the-letter movie adaptation of a book would be moving pictures with a voiceover and the occasional dialoguse. Besides, not all of what's described in a book could be visually illustrated anyway. (And what a dreadful movie it would make!) Let's not hope for a movie that merely illustrates the book, however enchanting the illustrations may be. Let's hope for a movie that tells a story like only a movie can. To be true to the letter doesn't guarantee being true to the spirit of a book. Let's hope for the spirit of Harry & Co to sweep us off our feet. If it takes some changes in presenting the major events--so be it. If dementors gliding has been translated on screen to allow them even to fly (have you read the latest set-report on mugglenet?) so be it, bring it on: I'm ready for a new approach. I love Harry & Co with a passion, and it can be hard to see something tampered with that one loves so well, but let's face it: Harry will be around for a long time. Maybe even in our lifetimes we'll see other adaptations, just like new film versions of Dickens' novels keep popping up. This is just the beginning. Might as well get used to it. Pick out the good stuff and leave the rest. We can't all be pleased about everything, but I'm preparing to be really pleased with Cuaron... BTW Without a firm idea of Nevilles Gran, I had rather pictured Snape in some kind of evening dress--slinky and silky with a low neckline and wobbly high-heeled shoes....But the version of her outfit we see in the movie is more consistent with Neville's gran's personality, I think. Sophia From angry_wangry at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 18 17:15:15 2003 From: angry_wangry at yahoo.co.uk (angry_wangry) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:15:15 -0000 Subject: re.the M word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It was confirmed by Harry that James was in Gryffindor in OOTP, Chapter 31: "...Ron had just reminded Harry forcibly of another Gryffindor Quidditch player who had once sat rumpling his hair under this very tree." mad -x- From arrmaitee at fanfiction.net Tue Nov 18 15:22:12 2003 From: arrmaitee at fanfiction.net (Arrmaitee) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:22:12 -0000 Subject: Demontors? Trembling Hermione? Message-ID: Two quick questions. Is the creature with the giant claw climbing into the Hogwarts Express in the POA trailer a dementor? Also, in the Harry Potter stills, does anyone have an idea where the pic of Harry holding a trembling Hermione in the woods comes from in the book? Thanks! From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 17:59:26 2003 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:59:26 -0000 Subject: Demontors? Trembling Hermione? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Arrmaitee" wrote: > Two quick questions. Is the creature with the giant claw climbing > into the Hogwarts Express in the POA trailer a dementor? Supposedly so. > > Also, in the Harry Potter stills, does anyone have an idea where the > pic of Harry holding a trembling Hermione in the woods comes from in > the book? Time turner scene, or before they can follow Ron into the Whomping Willow. > > Thanks! Welcome! Marci From oneel at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 20:49:00 2003 From: oneel at yahoo.com (Tania Canedo) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:49:00 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black Message-ID: Is it just me, or Gary Oldman is not the right Sirius???? Tania From joj at rochester.rr.com Tue Nov 18 21:21:39 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:21:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Gary Oldman as Sirius Black References: Message-ID: <004701c3ae19$f4ef1330$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Is it just me, or Gary Oldman is not the right Sirius???? Tania Maybe you could expand on that. What do you think is "wrong" with his Sirius? Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From patientx3 at aol.com Tue Nov 18 21:36:37 2003 From: patientx3 at aol.com (HunterGreen) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:36:37 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tania Canedo" wrote: > > Is it just me, or Gary Oldman is not the right Sirius?? >From what I've heard, its not just you, but I've heard people complaining about the casting for every character. Personally, I don't understand why anyone would complain about Gary Oldman for Sirius. PoA is my favorite of the books and Sirius is my favorite character, so I was the most interested in his casting for PoA. I hadn't even heard of Oldman, but realized I had seen three movies with him in them already. I've rented a bunch more (including Scarlet Letter, which wasn't the best movie, but did show that he *could* be good-looking with the right hair), and I'm VERY convinced that he'll be perfect to play Sirius. (Of course, I never had the image in my head of the 'attractive' Sirius that others seem to have, I always imagined Lupin as the good-looking one). I think he is an amazing actor, and he has the intensity needed for Sirius (at least in PoA). I'm curious, why do you think he's wrong for the part? -HunterGreen From sanityescapesme1979 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 23:00:54 2003 From: sanityescapesme1979 at yahoo.com (sanityescapesme1979) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:00:54 -0000 Subject: Future Harry Potter Movies Message-ID: I hope the third movie does really well, for the future of the next four. I know they are doing the Goblet of Fire. They are supposely going to cut it into two movies, because of the length of the book. I saw the an interview with Daniel Radcliffe saying he doesn't think he will do all the movies. I know he signed for the fourth one but what is the point of even doing the movie if he won't finish the series. I just hope the end it with the fourth movie and not change the kids, it would be pointless. From christi0469 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 19 00:11:11 2003 From: christi0469 at hotmail.com (Christi) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:11:11 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have to admit that Gary Oldman looks nothing like how I pictured Sirius; however, I think he's an excellent choice for the role. Oldman is an excellent acor and is quite capable of pulling off 'demented' (if you'll excuse the pun). In PoA Sirius comes off as intense and off balance even after we find out the truth, and it takes a skilled actor to pull that off. I would rather have an actor who can act than an actor that totally looks the part but can't act for beans. Rickman's Snape is excellent even though the actor is almost twenty years older than the character. Now to discuss continuing the movie series with different actors, the kids in particular. It's a lot to expect for an actor to continue in their rolls over a period of about a decade, which is what the movies will take if they continue to produce them in 18 month intervals. I would think this would apply even more so to the kids who will have extremely odd teenage years if the majority of that time is spent on a movie set. The recurring role of Dumbledore has already needed to be recast due to actor death, and from the trailers it looks like Gambon's portayal will work rather well. I will hold my opinion on recasting recurring roles until I see the results in the new movie. Who knows if the movie series will continue for that long, though I hope it does. Christi (Loopy) --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "HunterGreen" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tania Canedo" wrote: > > > > Is it just me, or Gary Oldman is not the right Sirius?? > > From what I've heard, its not just you, but I've heard people > complaining about the casting for every character. Personally, I > don't understand why anyone would complain about Gary Oldman for > Sirius. PoA is my favorite of the books and Sirius is my favorite > character, so I was the most interested in his casting for PoA. I > hadn't even heard of Oldman, but realized I had seen three movies > with him in them already. I've rented a bunch more (including Scarlet > Letter, which wasn't the best movie, but did show that he *could* be > good-looking with the right hair), and I'm VERY convinced that he'll > be perfect to play Sirius. (Of course, I never had the image in my > head of the 'attractive' Sirius that others seem to have, I always > imagined Lupin as the good-looking one). I think he is an amazing > actor, and he has the intensity needed for Sirius (at least in PoA). > > I'm curious, why do you think he's wrong for the part? > > > -HunterGreen From twinslove at mindspring.com Wed Nov 19 00:54:28 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:54:28 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: sanityescapesme1979 : I hope the third movie does really well, for the future of the next four. I know they are doing the Goblet of Fire. They are supposely going to cut it into two movies, because of the length of the book. I saw the an interview with Daniel Radcliffe saying he doesn't think he will do all the movies. I know he signed for the fourth one but what is the point of even doing the movie if he won't finish the series. I just hope the end it with the fourth movie and not change the kids, it would be pointless. >> Last I heard GoF is going to be one movie, not two, unless that has changed? I heard that they were considering doing a 4 hour movie with an intermission, but I *thought* they decided against that too. Warner Bros is only committed to doing four movies right now, but again, I heard they are considering doing more. I know that the actors are all do back this spring again to start on GoF, so hopefully it will come out soon after PoA (at least not as large of a gap as CoS to PoA). Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Wed Nov 19 00:58:14 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:58:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Christi I have to admit that Gary Oldman looks nothing like how I pictured Sirius; however, I think he's an excellent choice for the role. Oldman is an excellent acor and is quite capable of pulling off 'demented' (if you'll excuse the pun). In PoA Sirius comes off as intense and off balance even after we find out the truth, and it takes a skilled actor to pull that off. I would rather have an actor who can act than an actor that totally looks the part but can't act for beans. Rickman's Snape is excellent even though the actor is almost twenty years older than the character. >> I have to say I was surprised that Gary Oldman *wanted* the part of Sirus. I guess I would not have thought Harry Potter movies was his cup of tea, so to speak. However, I think it is an excellent choice, and he is an awesome actor who definitely could pull the part off. I think he is going to make the movie much better. :-) Like you said, I'd rather have someone who can act, but I will say, to me, Gary Oldman, in costume, is what *I* thought of as Sirius, or close to it. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From autophile at zoominternet.net Wed Nov 19 00:58:02 2003 From: autophile at zoominternet.net (Rob) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:58:02 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "delphislash" wrote: > I'm also curious as to whether Sirius is really snarling in his > wanted poster, or laughing hysterically. Screaming, I'd think. You'd probably scream, too, if you were about to be chucked into Azkaban (which is presumably when the mug shot was taken). --Rob From autophile at zoominternet.net Wed Nov 19 01:03:40 2003 From: autophile at zoominternet.net (Rob) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:03:40 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Atherton" wrote: > Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO > FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing > the distant castle. ... which is apparently surrounded by barbed wire. What's up with that? At first I thought it was supposed to be some kind of Nazi concentration camp, and the silhouettes were soldiers with helmets on. --Rob From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 19 01:30:59 2003 From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:30:59 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" wrote: > > I have to say I was surprised that Gary Oldman *wanted* the part of Sirus. > I guess I would not > have thought Harry Potter movies was his cup of tea, so to speak. > However, I think it is an > excellent choice, and he is an awesome actor who definitely could pull the > part off. I think he > is going to make the movie much better. :-) Like you said, I'd rather > have someone who can > act, but I will say, to me, Gary Oldman, in costume, is what *I* thought > of as Sirius, or close > to it. > > Kimberly Gary Oldman has repeatedly stated that he is bored with playing villains. I don't think it's that strange -- Chris Columbus said somewhere that they wanted the darkest Brit actor alive (can't be bothered to look it up, so you'll have to take my word for it), so the choice must have been rather obvious. Besides, it's been well established during the Harry Potter project that the persuasiveness of children can make fathers, grandfathers and godfathers do some pretty strange things. :-) Oldman has two sons. Alshain From rvotaw at i-55.com Wed Nov 19 02:50:15 2003 From: rvotaw at i-55.com (Richelle Votaw) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:50:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Future Harry Potter Movies References: Message-ID: <00de01c3ae47$dcb33930$3ba0cdd1@RVotaw> From: "sanityescapesme1979" > I hope the third movie does really well, for the future of the next > four. I know they are doing the Goblet of Fire. They are supposely > going to cut it into two movies, because of the length of the book. Actually, Steve Kloves is supposed to be trying to fit it into one 2-2 1/2 hour movie. Good luck. > I > saw the an interview with Daniel Radcliffe saying he doesn't think he > will do all the movies. Look back at the previous interviews. He always says that. It's his designated answer for that question. For one thing, WB only signs the kids on for one movie at a time. For another, he's fourteen, and if he suddenly finds he dislikes being Harry, he really doesn't need to be already committed and end up doing it if he's miserable. After the first movie he said he was doing the second, "after that, who knows?" After the second movie, he said he was doing the third, "after that, who knows?" And now he's saying the same thing about the fourth. And so on. Very diplomatic answer, doesn't commit himself one way or another, leaves it in the hands of WB. And of course WB doesn't want to commit that long term with kids, for a number of reasons. Will they be too short, will they be too tall, will they get grumpy and hate acting, will they bet snobby and be jerks, and on it goes. Although I must say, what's highly amusing right now is how everyone (okay, at least the media) was going nuts last year because Daniel Radcliffe grew a little, and now he's been passed up by almost everyone. Especially Tom Felton! Richelle From swmil at msn.com Wed Nov 19 06:11:49 2003 From: swmil at msn.com (whizbee2000) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:11:49 -0000 Subject: Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe in the future they will do more HP movies but make them for television and continue them on throughout the year w/different actors. Much like favorite movies from the past that were successful, they are redone and redone again because the appeal never wears out..whether they're redone for the silver screen or the tv screen. Harry Potter movies and books will continue to generate interest for years to come and they'll continue to re-cast it and re- market it for every generation. I would love to see the original actors play their roles for all seven movies, but that wish is probably not very realistic. We don't know when JKR will be finished with the books (hopefully not 10 years from now), and as mentioned in an earlier post, production isn't exactly "speedy" on the movies. I think the casting choices have been brilliant so far, and I think it's cool how the kids really do seem so much like their characters. Rupert/Ron as the delightful goof who loves attention, Dan/Harry as the celebrity (a little unwillingly)and Emma/Hermione as the smart one who many times speaks for the group. From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Wed Nov 19 18:53:07 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0000 Subject: Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: whizbee2000 wrote: > Maybe in the future they will do more HP movies but make them for > television If HP movies are done for television, I would like to see them done as mini-series. GOF and OOP would really benefit from that format, although the special effects might suffer due to a lesser budget. Then again, this is HP, they know they'll get ratings plus DVD sales. If it's a channel like Showtime or HBO, they'll have the added benefit of getting more subscribers. PS/SS, CoS, and POA wouldn't be hurt by the mini-series format either. Just think of all the scenes, that were cut for time in CoS that would have helped people who hadn't read the book understand the "Heir of Slytherin" plot better. Harry Potter movies and books will continue to generate > interest for years to come and they'll continue to re-cast it and re- > market it for every generation. They'll definately "continue to generate interest", I hope we do get new HP movies. I enjoyed PS/SS and CoS, but there was room for improvement. Actually, I cut them more slack on PS/SS, because they had so much introduction to cover, but CoS definately could have benefited from a different script and direction. Yolanda From hmkinney at yahoo.com Thu Nov 20 03:21:45 2003 From: hmkinney at yahoo.com (Heather) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 03:21:45 -0000 Subject: POA Trailer Shot-by-shot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Rob" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Atherton" wrote: > > > Cut to a long shot of a distant castle over a snowy wasteland. TWO > > FIGURES are visible in the immediate foreground, but both are facing > > the distant castle. > > ... which is apparently surrounded by barbed wire. What's up with > that? At first I thought it was supposed to be some kind of Nazi > concentration camp, and the silhouettes were soldiers with helmets on. > > --Rob It's not a castle...it's the shrieking shack. And that's Hermione and Ron (and maybe invisible Harry). Makes sense that it would have barbed wire around it...they wanted to keep people away, did they not? -Heather From snapesmate at hotmail.com Thu Nov 20 08:15:43 2003 From: snapesmate at hotmail.com (snapesmate) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:15:43 -0000 Subject: Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, liz wrote: Wow, I'm amazed by how many people seem to dislike David Thewlis! If you're > basing this only on the few images that have been released so far I wouldn't > worry. > Liz I agree the "Lupin" pics do not do David any justice. I have uploaded a pic of David Thewlis (it appears to be #24 in the "photos" section. I simply named it "David Thewlis" if anyone want to check it out. I first saw him in Prime Suspect 3, as Jimmy Jackson. (I think that was the character's name) Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice guy! From snapesmate at hotmail.com Thu Nov 20 08:25:38 2003 From: snapesmate at hotmail.com (snapesmate) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:25:38 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "alshainofthenorth" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" > wrote: > > > > I have to say I was surprised that Gary Oldman *wanted* the part > of Sirus. > > I guess I would not > > have thought Harry Potter movies was his cup of tea, so to speak. > > However, I think it is an > > excellent choice, and he is an awesome actor who definitely could > pull the > > part off. > > Kimberly > > Gary Oldman has repeatedly stated that he is bored with playing > villains. > Besides, it's been well established during the Harry Potter project > that the persuasiveness of children can make fathers, grandfathers and > godfathers do some pretty strange things. :-) Oldman has two sons. > > Alshain Actually Gary Oldman has 3 sons... Alfie is 10, maybe 11 by now, Gulliver is 5 and Charlie is 4. I agree he is a chameleon type actor and will probably do very well in this role, since he does dramatic as well as a tad psycho well. I have never seen him do otherwise, even if I wasn't crazy about all his movies, LOL! Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice one! From gbannister10 at aol.com Thu Nov 20 16:39:17 2003 From: gbannister10 at aol.com (Geoff Bannister) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0000 Subject: PoA teaser: "Something wicked this way comes" In-Reply-To: <005301c3ad60$eb481020$77984cca@Monteith> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> "Something Wicked this Way Comes" is from Shakespeare's MacBeth. Geoff: Just to add in the stage directions and a another couple of lines: silverdragon: > Witch 2: Cool it with a baboon's blood, > Then the charm is firm and good. Geoff: Enter Hecat to the other three witches silverdragon: > Hectate: O! well done! I commend your pains, > And every one shall share i' the gains. > And now about the cauldron sing, > Like elves and fairies in a ring, > Enchanting all that you put in. > Geoff: Music and a song "Black spirits etc." silverdragon: > Witch 2: By the pricking of my thumbs, > Something wicked this way comes. Geoff: Open locks, whoever knocks. Enter Macbeth Macbeth: How now, you secret, black and midnight hags, What is't you do. All: A deed without a name. Ooh er. From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 20 17:02:58 2003 From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:02:58 -0000 Subject: Gary Oldman as Sirius Black/Casting for Mad-Eye Moody In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "snapesmate" wrote: > > Actually Gary Oldman has 3 sons... Alfie is 10, maybe 11 by now, > Gulliver is 5 and Charlie is 4. I agree he is a chameleon type actor > and will probably do very well in this role, since he does dramatic > as well as a tad psycho well. I have never seen him do otherwise, > even if I wasn't crazy about all his movies, LOL! > Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice > one! Just checking if anyone reads my posts... :-) Honestly, my brain isn't big enough to store things like how many kids people have. It's even more embarrassing to have it happen when I speak to my older cousins who I barely see once every five years. Thanks for correcting me. Speaking of doing research properly, did you know that Gary Oldman learnt to play the solo part of Beethoven's fifth piano concerto (AKA the Emperor Concerto) before taking on the role in Immortal Beloved? BTW, I just had a brainwave about a possible actor for Mad-Eye Moody that hasn't been suggested before AFAIK. What would you think about Sir Ian Holm? (I know he isn't Scottish, but neither is Maggie Smith.) Without the Bilbo Baggins costume I subconsciously picture him in, he looks like this: http://www.thespiannet.com/actors/H/holm_ian/index.shtml He probably wouldn't be interested, but a girl can dream, no? Alshain From mlle_bienvenu at hotmail.com Thu Nov 20 23:22:06 2003 From: mlle_bienvenu at hotmail.com (mlle_bienvenu) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:22:06 -0000 Subject: Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > katherine.coble at c... wrote: > > I always think of Lupin as more of a shabby, down-on-his-luck, > avuncular > > type. These pictures make him look like one step away from the > Thriller > > video. Mlle Wrote: I agree... for some reason, I always pictured Lupin looking a lot like Ichabod Crane... sort of thin, gawkish and gangly... Just my two cents... And what's up with the mustache? Lol! Sorry, I couldn't help but say something.... :P I'm sure Thewlis will do just fine though... I've liked all the actors so far... I've got a bit of faith in the casting director(s) Mlle Bienvenu From kelleythompson at gbronline.com Fri Nov 21 02:11:34 2003 From: kelleythompson at gbronline.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:11:34 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Announcing HPFGU-Feedback (repost) Message-ID: Sorry for the repost, everyone; the link wasn't working properly in the first message. Hello, Fellow Listmembers! We have a long-standing rule in HPFGU of not discussing list policy on the public lists. We've asked this of our members for a variety of reasons, and the lack of onlist policy debates has been appreciated by many members. However, we have also had feedback from some of you that you would like, at times, to be able to discuss list policy in an open forum, rather than simply sending messages to the -Owner address. The List Admin Team has also found the current system to be less than satisfactory, so we have come up with a new way for list members and list admnistration to come together and discuss matters of list policy in a friendly and constructive manner. We have created a new list, called HPFGU-Feedback. It is a forum for members of the HPFGU lists to comment, question, suggest, and discuss matters of list administration with each other and members of the List Admin Team. As this is a totally new feedback system, we are going to run it for a one-month trial period, from 20 November, to 19 December, 2003. To join, please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Feedback/ . If you wish to participate, please make sure to read the messages that are sent to your e-mail address upon subscribing to the list, as all members are required to send an acknowledgement that they have read, and agree to follow, the list's Ground Rules before taking part in discussion. We look forward to hearing what you have to say! :-) Hebby Elf From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Fri Nov 21 12:10:18 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:10:18 -0000 Subject: Demontors? Trembling Hermione? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The hand opening the door of the train compartment is a dementor's hand. I'm positive on that one. As for when Harry holds a trembling/frightened Hermione, I'd guess that would be the point in the book when Harry and Hermione are beside the lake (Harry ran off to save Serious from the dementors, with Hermione following him) and the dementor's are beginning to surround them. Of course, it could be just after Ron was grabbed by Dog!Serious, but I can't see them just standing there instead of running immediately after Ron. Diana --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Arrmaitee" wrote: > Two quick questions. Is the creature with the giant claw climbing > into the Hogwarts Express in the POA trailer a dementor? > > Also, in the Harry Potter stills, does anyone have an idea where the > pic of Harry holding a trembling Hermione in the woods comes from in > the book? > > Thanks! From christi0469 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 21 12:47:24 2003 From: christi0469 at hotmail.com (Christi) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:47:24 -0000 Subject: Lupin Pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > katherine.coble at c... wrote: > > > I always think of Lupin as more of a shabby, down-on-his-luck, > > avuncular > > > type. These pictures make him look like one step away from the > > Thriller > > > video. Speaking of things that look like they're out of the Thriller video, take a peak at Harry in the part of the trailer where Snape seems to be protecting the kids. If that doesn't look like a zombie I don't know what does. I'm putting my money on bad screen shots, since I know Dan Radcliffe doesn't look like that throughout the movie. It's just our luck that the two glimpses we get at Lupin are less than promising (at least that's my fervent hope). From the pics I've seen of Thewliss he's quite capable of being drool-worthy. As far as Sirius Black, I never pictured him as being all-out handsome, but I pictured him taller with a more oval face shape and longer hair. Gary Oldman bears very little resemblance to my view of Sirius, but he's an incredible actor and I'm sure he'll do very well in the role. Christi From joj at rochester.rr.com Fri Nov 21 13:20:11 2003 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:20:11 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Demontors? Trembling Hermione? References: Message-ID: <001501c3b032$31146760$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> As for when Harry holds a trembling/frightened Hermione, I'd guess that would be the point in the book when Harry and Hermione are beside the lake (Harry ran off to save Serious from the dementors, with Hermione following him) and the dementor's are beginning to surround them. Of course, it could be just after Ron was grabbed by Dog!Serious, but I can't see them just standing there instead of running immediately after Ron. Diana I agree! They look scared for themselves, like something is slowly closing in on them and surrounding them. They don't look concerned or frightened for someone else or like they are trying to avoid the quickly swinging whomping willow or dangerous werewolf. In my mind, it must be the dementors. BTW, they must be real tall, as Harry is looking up quite high. Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From bpfincale at f-m.fm Fri Nov 21 16:25:54 2003 From: bpfincale at f-m.fm (benigs) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:25:54 -0000 Subject: Virginia Weasley? Message-ID: Hey! I was browsing IMDB's page on PoA and I noticed that the actress playing Ginny Weasley was credited as "Virginia 'Ginny' Weasley"... When was it ever mentioned that Ginny's real name is Virginia? --->Benigs From bpfincale at f-m.fm Fri Nov 21 16:41:18 2003 From: bpfincale at f-m.fm (benigs) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:41:18 -0000 Subject: Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: <00de01c3ae47$dcb33930$3ba0cdd1@RVotaw> Message-ID: > > I > > saw the an interview with Daniel Radcliffe saying he doesn't think he > > will do all the movies. > > Look back at the previous interviews. He always says that. It's his > designated answer for that question. For one thing, WB only signs the kids > on for one movie at a time. Actually I think the kids were contractually obligated to do the first 3 films (or was it just two?). That's why there was never any talk or nervousness on the studio's part of whether the kids will still do PoA... The fourth one is all up to them. Personally, if GoF will go on production right after PoA, I really hope it will have the same actors. It would be just too weird if GoF is released one year after and there are new faces to get used to... Maybe if GoF will be released 5 years from now, new actors will be okay. But as of now, even if the trio grows and matures and all, I think they can still play the younger years of Harry and his friends... It's all about makeup! I mean look at that girl from Matchstick Men! She looks 14 (the age of her character) but she really is 20+ already! --->Benigs From lupinesque at yahoo.com Fri Nov 21 20:28:36 2003 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:28:36 -0000 Subject: Downloadable? Message-ID: I'm looking for a site that will actually allow one to *download* a QT version of the PoA trailer. Anyone know one? Failing that, at the moment I'd settle for any site that will actually play more than a few seconds of it. Even the official WB site keeps halting shortly after the ratings screen. :-( I don't think it's my QT, because that worked earlier. Amy Z From katydid3500 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 21 23:07:57 2003 From: katydid3500 at yahoo.com (Kathryn Wolber) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:07:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Downloadable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031121230757.40228.qmail@web40505.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amy Z wrote: > I'm looking for a site that will actually allow one > to *download* a > QT version of the PoA trailer. Anyone know one? > > Failing that, at the moment I'd settle for any site > that will > actually play more than a few seconds of it. Even > the official WB > site keeps halting shortly after the ratings screen. > :-( I don't > think it's my QT, because that worked earlier. > > Amy Z > On most of the sites, if you right click on the version you want and choose "Save Target As" you should be able to save it on your computer. Hope that helps:) ~Kathryn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From siskiou at msn.com Fri Nov 21 22:35:09 2003 From: siskiou at msn.com (Susanne) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:35:09 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3964810396.20031121143509@msn.com> Hi, Friday, November 21, 2003, 8:41:18 AM, bpfincale at f-m.fm wrote: > Personally, if GoF will go on production right after PoA, I really > hope it will have the same actors. It would be just too weird if GoF > is released one year after and there are new faces to get used to... AFAIK, they have all three signed on for GoF, and it *will* go into production right after PoA. -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:siskiou at msn.com Visit our pet rabbits: http://home.earthlink.net/~siskiou/ From illyana at mindspring.com Fri Nov 21 23:32:26 2003 From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:32:26 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Downloadable? In-Reply-To: <20031121230757.40228.qmail@web40505.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031121230757.40228.qmail@web40505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > --- Amy Z wrote: > > I'm looking for a site that will actually allow one > > to *download* a > > QT version of the PoA trailer.? Anyone know one? > > then, Kathryn wrote: > > On most of the sites, if you right click on the > version you want and choose "Save Target As" you > should be able to save it on your computer. > Hope that helps:) > now, illyana: Or, if you're one of the few (but awesome) people who uses a Mac, just right-click (or ctrl-click) on the version you want and select "Download link to disc." illyana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Sat Nov 22 00:30:47 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:30:47 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Downloadable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- now, illyana: Or, if you're one of the few (but awesome) people who uses a Mac, just right-click (or ctrl-click) on the version you want and select "Download link to disc." illyana >> You don't have to be a Mac person either. If you have Opera, it will automatically download it to your hard drive. Opera is a free browser, and I like it better than Explorer because the pop up ads are way less! Good luck, Kimberly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From andie at knownet.net Sat Nov 22 16:41:10 2003 From: andie at knownet.net (grindieloe) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:41:10 -0000 Subject: Downloadable? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Amy Z" wrote: > I'm looking for a site that will actually allow one to *download* a > QT version of the PoA trailer. Anyone know one? > I've been having the same problem, too. I even did the "save target as" on the computer, but after a few days, it seems as thought it has to "buffer" again. (That takes forever!) I did get it to play a few times offline by making it a favorite and clicking "make available offline," but like I said, after a few days, it has to buffer again and needs to be connected to the internet. Andrea From lupinesque at yahoo.com Sat Nov 22 20:30:16 2003 From: lupinesque at yahoo.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:30:16 -0000 Subject: Runes in Sirius's "wanted" poster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "annabellejane97" wrote: > Perhaps the ID is assigned in a manner analogous to the sorting > hat. There could be some magical device that is able to read a > prisoner's character and personality and assign an ID > accordingly. > The fact that the rune meanings have positive connotations that > would be known in the WW is not necessarily a problem. It is human > nature to interpret something based on a preconceived idea about a > person or situation. I don't pretend to know anything about > runes, > but I have read the posts concerning their meanings. For exmple, > maybe everyone assumed that the gift or exchange was in connection > with LV. Certainly the people that knew the full extent of what > Sirius was thought to have done of would have a basis to believe > that - Sirius gave the Potters to LV. Just a thought. ...and a neat one, IMO. Even leaving Sirius's eventual fate in OoP aside, what we have in Sirius is a character who encompasses opposites, since his meaning inverts over the course of PoA: killer to protector, perpetrator to victim, criminal to framed innocent . . . NB: I am going by a few different websites, and websites may well just get their information from each other, not to mention from other unreliable sources. Gebo/Gyfu carries the meanings of exchange and partnership, and also, according to http://members.tripod.com/~AradiaMoonshadow/runes1.html, of freedom. So, two possible interpretations: -partnership between Sirius and Voldemort (what the WW thought of Sirius) -freedom (what Sirius finally got up to) Algiz carries the meanings of protection and defense. I'm having a harder time with that one. Its positive meaning is obvious, because Sirius is protecting Harry (and in a sense was protecting James and Lily just before his arrest). But it seems like it's pushing it to describe Sirius as a protector or defender of Voldemort. Anyone got an idea? I don't know if Cuaron's crew chose these runes particularly--I doubt it--but I just love them for choosing runes at all for a shot that passes in a couple of seconds. This is the kind of attention to detail that makes the books so fantastic, and I love it when the moviemakers appreciate it and imitate it. And I think the art director(s) should be awarded a knighthood, not to mention an Oscar. Amy Z wondering what the significance of the number 390 might be From gbannister10 at aol.com Sat Nov 22 22:17:06 2003 From: gbannister10 at aol.com (Geoff Bannister) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:17:06 -0000 Subject: Future Harry Potter Movies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "benigs" wrote: Benigs: > Actually I think the kids were contractually obligated to do the > first 3 films (or was it just two?). That's why there was never any > talk or nervousness on the studio's part of whether the kids will > still do PoA... The fourth one is all up to them. > > Personally, if GoF will go on production right after PoA, I really > hope it will have the same actors. It would be just too weird if GoF > is released one year after and there are new faces to get used to... > Maybe if GoF will be released 5 years from now, new actors will be > okay. But as of now, even if the trio grows and matures and all, I > think they can still play the younger years of Harry and his > friends... It's all about makeup! I mean look at that girl from > Matchstick Men! She looks 14 (the age of her character) but she > really is 20+ already! Geoff: ISTR that I read somewhere that the actress who plays Moaning Myrtle in COS is actually an adult - in her 30s I think. > --->Benigs From twinslove at mindspring.com Sat Nov 22 23:21:10 2003 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:21:10 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moaning Myrtle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- Geoff: ISTR that I read somewhere that the actress who plays Moaning Myrtle in COS is actually an adult - in her 30s I think. >> She was in Bridget Jones Diary as one of Bridget's single friends. It took me a while to figure it out too. LOL! I kept thinking I have seen her somewhere before then she said something that just snapped that she was Moaning Myrtle. :-) Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Mhochberg at aol.com Sun Nov 23 18:26:27 2003 From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:26:27 EST Subject: Moaning Myrtle Message-ID: <9.1cf21839.2cf255d3@aol.com> In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:16:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > she was Moaning Myrtle. :-) > And she was darn good! Her name is Shirley Henderson, born 1966, and here's a link to her in the Internet Movie Database. http://imdb.com/name/nm0376602/ ---Mary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From artsylynda at aol.com Sun Nov 23 18:50:57 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:50:57 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Future Harry Potter movies Message-ID: <128.35d5ef9b.2cf25b91@aol.com> >>Actually I think the kids were contractually obligated to do the first 3 films (or was it just two?). That's why there was never any talk or nervousness on the studio's part of whether the kids will still do PoA... The fourth one is all up to them.<< There was an article on The Leaky Cauldron (I think that's where I read it) months ago saying Emma had just signed for GoF and she was the last one to do so. They are all signed for GoF and filming is supposed to start soon after PoA wraps. That will be hardest on Dan, I imagine, since he's in pretty much every single scene (since the story is from his POV). Then again, maybe the part of GoF that starts right after PoA is pre-production and the cast will get a few months off before having to work again, I don't know. I'm glad they're back. As for the actress who plays Moaning Myrtle -- when I first saw her, I realized she was an adult and thought that was clever casting, as it wouldn't be acceptable for a ghost to "age" from movie to movie, so they all needed to be adults so there'd be as little change as possible. Nice to see they've thought about all these details! Lynda Sappington Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold and sterling silver. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Siran1 at gmx.de Mon Nov 24 07:44:03 2003 From: Siran1 at gmx.de (Chris) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:44:03 +0100 Subject: Riddle's crest Message-ID: <002f01c3b25e$bc64d2e0$bb6ab7ac@OEMCOMPUTER> In the second Harry Potter movie, why does Riddle have a Griffindor crest on his clothes? Wasn't he in Slytherin? And they always say, that there wasn't a wizard who turned who wasn't in Slytherin. But Wormtail is a Death Eater and he would be in Griffindor or if they believe Sirius betrayed the Potters he would be a Death Eater and he, too, is a Griffindor...? Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From poohnpotterfan at aol.com Mon Nov 24 08:21:33 2003 From: poohnpotterfan at aol.com (poohnpotterfan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 03:21:33 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Riddle's crest Message-ID: <12c.361269bd.2cf3198d@aol.com> If you look close on Moaning Myrtle's robes, hers has all the crests as well. I think on the older robes, they had all of the houses on them & then just wore the house color ties. Then as the school got along, they changed the robes to have each house with their own crests. Either that, or else costuming just screwed things up!! :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From amani at charter.net Mon Nov 24 11:47:01 2003 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:47:01 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Riddle's crest References: <002f01c3b25e$bc64d2e0$bb6ab7ac@OEMCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <001901c3b280$ac71c100$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Chris: In the second Harry Potter movie, why does Riddle have a Griffindor crest on his clothes? Wasn't he in Slytherin? Taryn: It's not a Gryffindor crest, it's a crest of all the houses together. But if you look at the color of his tie and the bordering on his sweater-vest, it's very clearly green and silver. I don't have any screenshots, but here's one of the early official pics of him: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2002/old/COSHiResTomRiddle.jpg Very clearly Slytherin. --Taryn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tmarends at yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 16:22:57 2003 From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:22:57 -0000 Subject: Moaning Myrtle In-Reply-To: <9.1cf21839.2cf255d3@aol.com> Message-ID: OMG... she's as old as I am. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Mhochberg at a... wrote: > In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:16:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > > > she was Moaning Myrtle. :-) > > > > And she was darn good! Her name is Shirley Henderson, born 1966, and here's a > link to her in the Internet Movie Database. > > http://imdb.com/name/nm0376602/ > > ---Mary > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From yolandacarroll at yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 19:41:00 2003 From: yolandacarroll at yahoo.com (yolandacarroll) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:41:00 -0000 Subject: Riddle's crest In-Reply-To: <002f01c3b25e$bc64d2e0$bb6ab7ac@OEMCOMPUTER> Message-ID: Chris wrote: > And they always say, that there wasn't a wizard who turned who wasn't in Slytherin. But Wormtail is a Death Eater and he would be in Griffindor or if they believe Sirius betrayed the Potters he would be a Death Eater and he, too, is a Griffindor...? I personally believe that all four of the Marauders were in Gryffindor, however we do not have Wormtail's or Sirius' house stated. We only have James house confirmed as Gryffindor in OOP. Yolanda From gullicksen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 26 14:23:24 2003 From: gullicksen at yahoo.com (kbmum2000) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:24 -0000 Subject: looking for POA wanted poster Message-ID: A couple of weeks back, I found a link to some POA images, including a screen capture of the Sirius wanted poster at www.azkaban.com. I forgot to bookmark it, and now I can't find it. I've checked the messsages here and at other groups, to no avail. The closest I've found is a picture of the poster that has been altered for the Leaky Cauldron's Get a Clue campaign. Does anyone know where I can find this image? Thanks! Cindy From patientx3 at aol.com Wed Nov 26 19:48:08 2003 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:48:08 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] looking for POA wanted poster Message-ID: In a message dated 11/26/2003 9:24:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, gullicksen at yahoo.com writes: > A couple of weeks back, I found a link to some POA images, including > a screen capture of the Sirius wanted poster at www.azkaban.com. I > forgot to bookmark it, and now I can't find it. IMDB has it up. Try http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0304141/Ss/0304141/prisoner-of-azkaban-poster.jpg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From angry_wangry at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 26 21:58:54 2003 From: angry_wangry at yahoo.co.uk (angry_wangry) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:58:54 -0000 Subject: looking for POA wanted poster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's also a moving version on the page below. I think it's the one that was on www.azkaban.com briefly. http://www.vickishome.com/0HarryPotter/AzkabanPosterDetails/AzkabanPo sterDetails.html > > A couple of weeks back, I found a link to some POA images, including > > a screen capture of the Sirius wanted poster at www.azkaban.com. I > > forgot to bookmark it, and now I can't find it. > > IMDB has it up. Try > http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0304141/Ss/0304141/prisoner-of-azkaban- poster.jpg From witchywoman at obdb.net Wed Nov 26 22:28:27 2003 From: witchywoman at obdb.net (Tammy) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:28:27 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: looking for POA wanted poster References: Message-ID: <002901c3b46c$9d0e3ed0$99960144@home> Or there is this one too: http://www.obdb.net/blogger/prisonerofazkaban-haveyouseenthiswizard.jpg This is a great screencap from the trailer. Tammy (aka Witchy Woman) > There's also a moving version on the page below. I think it's the > one that was on www.azkaban.com briefly. > > http://www.vickishome.com/0HarryPotter/AzkabanPosterDetails/AzkabanPo > sterDetails.html > > > > > > A couple of weeks back, I found a link to some POA images, > including > > > a screen capture of the Sirius wanted poster at > www.azkaban.com. I > > > forgot to bookmark it, and now I can't find it. > > > > IMDB has it up. Try > > http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0304141/Ss/0304141/prisoner-of-azkaban- > poster.jpg From artsylynda at aol.com Thu Nov 27 16:17:32 2003 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:17:32 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] looking for PoA wanted poster Message-ID: You might go to a local theater and see if they have the actual thing in the lobby. When we went to the movies a couple of weeks ago (the week after the trailer was released), there was a "signpost" with signs pointing to Hogsmead and Hogwarts, a "light" on top, and the wanted poster on the front. It changes as you move around it. There are also "ads" posted on the signpost for Firebolts and owls and various other things. It was a very cool display. I told my husband that once those are no longer in use, they will sell for big money on eBay to HP fans. ;-> Lynda Sappington Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold and sterling silver. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 07:15:37 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:15:37 -0000 Subject: Still bugging me about CoS... Message-ID: I've been watching Chamber of Secrets a lot lately and have discovered that three scenes in particular really bug me. They don't ruin the movie, but they are so out-of-line to me that they stand out appallingly everytime I watch it. The first scene occurs at the end of the scene where McGonagall talks about the chamber of secrets to the classroom full of students. Hermione asks what exactly does legend say is in the chamber and McGonagall replies that legend says it's the home of a monster only the heir of Slytherin can control. Right at those words Ron turns around in his seat and looks at Malfoy with a horrified look on his face while Malfoy smiles wickedly back at him. This action of Ron turning to look at Malfoy just bugs the heck out of me. To me, it appears that Ron is looking at Malfoy for confirmation of what McGonagall is saying, and that just isn't something Ron would do. We all know that this scene was most definitely not in the book because Hermione asked Professor Binns, not McGonagall, about the chamber of secrets and the Slytherins weren't in the same class. The second scene is at the end of the movie when Hagrid comes back from Azkaban and states that he's sorry he's late because of some ruddy bird called "Errol". There's so many things wrong about this little attempt at a joke at Ron's expense, I don't know where to begin. Errol didn't deliver the letter to free Hagrid to Azkaban in the book and they should have kept it that way in the movie. Hagrid wouldn't have known the owl's name, for one thing, and I can't see Hagrid disparaging any animal, not even an owl, as he loves most animals, from monsters to flobberworms. The last scene is at the very end when Harry starts clapping for Hagrid and all the professors and students join in in an apparent "worship Hagrid" moment. When reading the books, it is obvious that Hagrid is sort of an outsider to the rest of the students at Hogwarts. There aren't any other students beyond Harry, Ron and Hermione who visit him and get involved in his life. This was not in the book for a very obvious reason - all the students at Hogwarts wouldn't be clapping in delighted joy if Hagrid returned because, except for the trio, most of the students don't know Hagrid at all and wouldn't care if he returned or not. I'm now to the point that every time those scenes come up while I'm watching, I just shake my head in wonderment that the director and/or writer put them in at all. Does anyone else have scenes in either Sorcer's Stone or CoS that drive them crazy? Diana L. From poohnpotterfan at aol.com Fri Nov 28 09:51:32 2003 From: poohnpotterfan at aol.com (poohnpotterfan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:51:32 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Still bugging me about CoS... Message-ID: <142.1d7adb8b.2cf874a4@aol.com> Most of that didn't bother me too much, but I have to agree with you on the ending. It just didn't make sense. The way they handled it was as if Hagrid saved everyone, instead of Harry. I was kind of bugged that they didn't show Ron the least bit concerned about his sister after she was rescued. That would have been nice to see the Weasley's all gathered around Ginny, before Dumbledore had his talk with Harry about Riddle. When I first saw the ending, I was like "What the...?????" My sister, who hasn't read the books, was all "Isn't that so sweet?" & I'm all "NOOO!! That's not the way it ends in the book!!!" That was the first time I compared the books and the movies really closely, the rest of the time it didn't bother me much. Jenn :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From liz at studylink.com Fri Nov 28 09:33:17 2003 From: liz at studylink.com (liz) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:33:17 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Still bugging me about CoS... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 28/11/03 8:15 am, Diana at dianasdolls at yahoo.com wrote: > I've been watching Chamber of Secrets a lot lately and have > discovered that three scenes in particular really bug me. They > don't ruin the movie, but they are so out-of-line to me that they > stand out appallingly everytime I watch it. > > The first scene occurs at the end of the scene where McGonagall > talks about the chamber of secrets to the classroom full of > students...... We all know that this scene was most > definitely not in the book because Hermione asked Professor Binns, > not McGonagall, about the chamber of secrets and the Slytherins > weren't in the same class. This scene bugs me because I can't imagine McGonagall telling the kids this story, which would obviously frighten and disturb them and which she probably thinks is bull-crap anyway, (until later when it's proved the chamber is real). I find it so out of character, although I understand why they did it as Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman don't have much to do in this movie, but still. I'm sure if Hermione had asked McG this question she would have told her to zip her lip and get on with her work! I also agree with you on the Hagrid scenes at the end. I always stop watching after HRH have their little reunion in the great hall (which is about as much cheese as I can stand!). Liz From ladypensieve at yahoo.com Sat Nov 29 04:37:36 2003 From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Lady Pensieve) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:37:36 -0000 Subject: Still bugging me about CoS... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Diana" wrote: > The last scene is at the very end when Harry starts clapping for > Hagrid and all the professors and students join in in an > apparent "worship Hagrid" moment. I just shake my head in wonderment that the director and/or writer put them in at all. <<< Didn't it remind anyone of the ending of Star Wars? (the original, the first, that now ends up #4)? I figured it worked for them, and they had no real ending...so...why not copy SW. Kathy From andie at knownet.net Sat Nov 29 18:25:41 2003 From: andie at knownet.net (grindieloe) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:25:41 -0000 Subject: Countdown Message-ID: Anyone know of a site where they have a PoA Movie Countdown... kinda like they had everywhere online for the countdown to OoP? grindieloe From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Sat Nov 29 22:44:32 2003 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:44:32 -0000 Subject: Still bugging me about CoS... In-Reply-To: <142.1d7adb8b.2cf874a4@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, poohnpotterfan at a... wrote: > Most of that didn't bother me too much, but I have to agree with you on the > ending. It just didn't make sense. The way they handled it was as if Hagrid > saved everyone, instead of Harry. My reply: I think you expressed exactly of what bugs the snot out of me about that scene - Hagrid steals Harry's thunder! All Hagrid did was get released from Azkaban! Sure, he told Harry and Ron to follow the spiders, which helped them come to the realization later that Moaning Myrtle was the last victim of the basilisk, but he also nearly got them killed, a rather horribe and painful way to die too. I was kind of bugged that they didn't show Ron > the least bit concerned about his sister after she was rescued. That would > have been nice to see the Weasley's all gathered around Ginny, before Dumbledore > had his talk with Harry about Riddle. When I first saw the ending, I was like > "What the...?????" My sister, who hasn't read the books, was all "Isn't that > so sweet?" & I'm all "NOOO!! That's not the way it ends in the book!!!" That > was the first time I compared the books and the movies really closely, the rest > of the time it didn't bother me much. > Jenn :) My reply: Like you, I really wished that scene with the Weasleys greeting and hugging Ginny, Ron and Harry after they returned from the Chamber of Secrets was in the movie. That was a great and touching scene. I do feel that the movies can stand apart from the books in their own right, but the movies are only truly cohesive and make sense if the viewer has actually read the books. Try watching "Sorcer's Stone" and "Chamber of Secrets" without filling in the gaps with your knowledge from the books. It's interesting how different the movies seem to me when I don't apply foreknowledge from the books to the movies. I do like both movies and enjoy watching them, but because of the two-and-a-half-hour limitation, many (to me) important scenes and much vital expository information were left out when they shouldn't have been. Diana From dean7712000 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 30 05:26:42 2003 From: dean7712000 at yahoo.com (Dean) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 05:26:42 -0000 Subject: Countdown In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "grindieloe" wrote: > Anyone know of a site where they have a PoA Movie Countdown... kinda > like they had everywhere online for the countdown to OoP? > > grindieloe theres a countdown at www.thesnitch.co.uk dean From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Sun Nov 30 11:49:42 2003 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:49:42 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Moaning Myrtle, and the PoA trailer Message-ID: Not only is Moaning Myrtle in 'Bridget Jones's Diary', she also had a starring role in 'Topsy Turvy' (great movie about Gilbert & Sullivan, where she also proved that she has a lovely singing voice). She is currently to be seen on British TV in 'Charles II' as Catherine of Braganza, along with Argus Filch as Berry Godfrey, and Tom Riddle as the Duke of Monmouth. (Christian Coulson looks totally different, BTW). I saw the PoA trailer in the US last week, when I went to a matinee of 'Love Actually'. I took to heart our fellow list-member's exhortation to ask the theatre manager about watching the trailer before going into the show for which I had a ticket, I really did; but there was no one there to ask, so I did it anyway. Here's my question; I'd like to see it again on the big screen; when will it be shown in Britain? Does anyone know? Cheers, Nicholas