why I was uncomfortable with the Aunt Marge scene

[susanmcgee48176]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "mcmaxslb" <McGregorMax at e...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Tim Regan \(Intl Vendor\)" <v-
> tregan at m...> wrote:
> >> I found the Aunt Marge scene funny, but Barbara's point has got 
me
> > thinking. Remember this passage from GoF:
> >  
> > >>> A crowd of wizards, tightly packed and moving together with 
> wands
> > pointing straight upward, was marching slowly across the field. 
> Harry
> > squinted at them. . . . They didn't seem to have faces. . . . 
Then 
> he
> > realized that their heads were hooded and their faces masked. 
High 
> above
> > them, floating along in midair, four struggling figures were being
> > contorted into grotesque shapes. It was as though the masked 
> wizards on
> > the ground were puppeteers, and the people above them were 
> marionettes
> > operated by invisible strings that rose from the wands into the 
> air. Two
> > of the figures were very small.... The floating people were 
> suddenly illuminated as they passed over a
> > burning tent and Harry recognized one of them: Mr. Roberts, the 
> campsite
> > manager. The other three looked as though they might be his wife 
and
> > children. One of the marchers below flipped Mrs. Roberts upside 
down
> > with his wand; her nightdress fell down to reveal voluminous 
> drawers and
> > she struggled to cover herself up as the crowd below her 
screeched 
> and
> > hooted with glee.
> > 
> > "That's sick," Ron muttered, watching the smallest Muggle child, 
> who had
> > begun to spin like a top, sixty feet above the ground, his head 
> flopping
> > limply from side to side. "That is really sick. . . ." <<<
> >  
> > Having re-read that passage, is the Aunt Marge scene still funny? 
> Less
> > so for me.
> >  
> > Cheers,
> >  
> > Dumbledad.
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Yes because the people in GoF were innocent victims while Aunt 
> Marge deserved everything that happened to her.
> 
>    One of the things that I contemplate about the HP books is the 
> fact that the Dursleys have yet to receive any retribution for the 
> years of abuse that put Harry though.  Vernon and Petunia, hell 
> Dudley too, should be in jail for what they've done. One of the 
> things that I hope for in Book7 is the Dursleys finally facing some 
> justice.


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I, too, would like to see Vernon and Petunia held accountable for 
their horrible treatment of Harry. However, I don't hold with 
humiliation....

I was absolutely fine with the Aunt Marge scene in the book because 
she was SO vile, and Harry tried SO hard not to react, but then he 
truly lost control...he didn't make a decision to humiliate Aunt 
Marge..(The Death Eaters in contrast made a decision to humiliate the 
Muggles (GoF) at the World Cup..they thought it funny...they didn't 
lose control and they had NOT been badly treated by those muggles).

I noticed in the OoP that Harry was having revenge fantasies about 
Dursley...he was fantasizing about jinxing Dudley so he couldn't 
move, and in fact was taunting and taking out his own frustration and 
anger on Dudley (based on his history of mistreatment by Dudley).

I don't think this is healthy, although totally understandable. My 
experience is that people who feel desperate and powerless are those 
who have revenge fantasies and who get back at others in 
inappropriate ways.

I really am angry at Dumbledore, and McGonagall for allowing Harry to 
be treated SO badly at the Dursleys...I'm happy that at the end of 
the OoP his friends and allies intervene with the Dursleys..but what 
took everyone so long?

Re: dementors..I loved one part of the scene in the PoA movie where 
the dementors attack HP and Sirius...the lake was exactly as I 
envisioned it..but I didn't like the dementors flying and swooping, 
in my mind I saw them amassing at the other side of the lake and 
gliding across it...

Thanks everyone for your very thoughtful responses to my posts, I 
appreciate it.

Susan