[HPFGU-Movie] Messrs M, W, P & P

[Valerie Flowe]

From: GulPlum <hp at plum.cream.org>

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Something which surprised me (I have been unforgivably *S-L-O-W*!) is that
it took eight viewings of the movie for me to realise that the PoA movie
*completely* misses any identification of James, Sirius & co as the authors
of the Map or that all four of them became Animagi at the same time, or
that there was any connection between these elements, or that they were
connected in any way to Lupin's lycanthropy.

Book readers have claimed to have seen hints or suggestions of these facts
in the movie, but this is only because we know the background: there are no
hints *at all* within the framework of the film itself of any of these
issues. People have looked for hints and some have even seen (or rather,
heard) things which I believe simply aren't there, because people
desperately *want* the movie to have included this material in some form.

[from Valerie]
I still think that the Marauder's Map plot belongs in POA, not GOF. The
official HP websiteeven has it as it's flash intro. It encompasses the whole
story (Harry getting into Hogsmeade despite Uncle Vernon's obstinance; the
whole Shrieking Shack plot unfolding, etc. I still think this would have
been the easiest solution:

Lupin: "I saw you coming Harry", he taps the Marauder's Map.
Harry: "Professor L; how did you know all about the map, anyhow?"
Lupin: "Well your Dad, Sirius, Peter and I created it when we were all
friends here at Hogwarts, mostly as a means to have free range of the castle
and get into trouble."
Harry: "Buuutt, who are Mssrs. Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs?"
Lupin: "Well us, of course! Mooney, the vampire, Padfoot the dog, Prongs the
stag, and Wormtail the rat (which, as we all know, he fulfilled his
namesake!)
Harry: "Ohhhh! Then...the stag patronus that I saw at the lake that I
thought was my Dad, was actually ME?"
Lupin: "Yes, you might say, Prongs rode again last night. He lives in you,
Harry".
Now I must skeedaddle...!"

Or something to that effect! That wouldn't have caused too many people's
heads to explode with too much info, yet it would've pleased the book fans
by completing the story. Sigh...


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if Time-Turned H&H could get Buckbeak out of the way while the "execution
committee" was inside Hagrid's hut, why didn't HRH do it the first time
around?

[from Valerie]
Because Dumbledore didn't inform them of it till later in the hospital ward?
It was his fault! But in watching the scene play itself twice, Dumbledore
seems to have clairvoyance of these events, i.e. he wants to sign his very
long name to the death warrant; he is distracting the Minister and Grim
Reaper with tales of strawberries and such, giving Buckbeak a chance to be
rescued. Then he immediately dismisses the whole execution by asking Hagrid
for Brandy.




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