Amusing comment from Cuaron
huntergreen_3
patientx3 at aol.com
Mon Jun 28 09:29:02 UTC 2004
Deborah wrote:
>>Nothing to do with you posting this - I'm speaking entirely of
Curaon's comment... I don't think it's funny. I think he brought
some good stuff to the film. But comments like this and like having
the kids listen to hard rock music, etc. turned Hogwarts too much
into real life.<<
I'm sort of curious where you heard that Cuaron had the kids listen
to hard rock music. I know that Daniel Radcliffe listened to some (to
help him get into the mood for some of the darker scenes), but as far
as I know, he selected all the music himself. As for Hogwarts turning
into "real life", in what way? I thought the interactions between the
kids (not just the trio, but *all* the young actors), was much more
natural than it was in the first two movies. My biggest complaint
with CoS is too many of the scenes feel forced or awkward, and by
inviting the kids to act more like actual people (and not just
characters saying lines), that forced feeling was excised. Just for
example, look at the 'eat slugs!' scene in CoS, and compare it to
Care of Magical Creatures scene (the beginning when Malfoy pretends
to see a dementer) in PoA. (IMO), Malfoy's amusment feels real in
PoA, whereas in CoS its obviously fake laughter.
>>Same with the clothes. Ok, wearing regular teenage
clothes into Hogsmeade I could deal with. I didn't like it, but I
could deal with it.<<
Why didn't you like it? Did you think they should wear their school
robes into Hogsmeade? Hermione and Harry would certainly wear jeans
when they're out of school robes (since they're both from muggle
familes), and I don't believe Ron wears anything that fashionable
(nor do I recall him wearing jeans at any point). The kids did wear
regular clothes during several scenes of PS/SS, they just didn't look
like clothes kids would actually wear (unless they were going to go
visit their grandmother or something).
>> However, attending class half dressed with their shirts hangin
out, ties undone, etc. just looked disrespectful. Do they have a
dress code or don't they?<<
I don't know, do they? (j/k). If you look closely, the main scene
with the shirts hanging out..etc, is in the Care of Magical Creatures
class, and perhaps it *was* disrespectful. They all could have just
assumed that Hagrid would let them get away with it. I'm guessing
that if we saw a potions or a transfiguration class that they all
would have looked far more presentable. Personally, I think he went a
little too far with that (Hermione I don't believe would walk around
with her shirt untucked), but it was all the spirit of making them
act like *regular kids* as opposed to movie kids.
>> I thought it took away a lot of the magic. I imagine Cauron's
Hogwarts to be one where kids swear, where some use drugs, sneak
alcohol into their dorms
you know
like every high school in
America.<<
I didn't get that at all. What gave you that perspective? Going from
shirts untucked to doing drugs is a big leap.
As far as the *books* go, there is some hint that "real" things like
that may happen, we just don't see it because its a children's series.
Ex.: As for alcohol-remember Ron thought about trying Fire Whiskey in
OotP, and all the kids drink Butterbeer which supposedly has a SMALL
amount of alcohol in it; as for swearing in PoA, after Snape gives
him detention Ron calls Snape *something* that we aren't privy too,
but it was bad enough to make Hermione shout "Ron!", and although its
not much of a word in *our* world, "mudblood" is a fairly serious bit
of language in the magical world, and we all know how often Draco
says it.
>> We want to go to Hogwarts because it's different there.<<
Its STILL different....they are still learning *magic*.
>> In being "edgy" Cauron let in the real world.<<
I don't agree that he was being "edgy", I think he was trying to make
it like a real place (not real as in our reality, but real as though
its not just "movie-land", where nothing has normal wear-and-tear,
and the kids are one-dimensional).
>>It's as bad as when Disney World let in McDonalds.<<
Disney World let in McDonalds? (I certainly missed *that* when I was
there....would have been a lot cheaper than any food they sell).
-Rebecca
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