[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Amusing comment from Cuaron
Shaun Hately
drednort at alphalink.com.au
Tue Jun 29 06:33:20 UTC 2004
On 29 Jun 2004 at 6:03, Krissy wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >>Part of the point is, though, really, that wearing a school uniform
> - shirt and tie - properly is not generally uncomfortable if kids
> are used to it. In a school where kids are expected to be neat and
> tidy and properly dressed, they will tend to stay that way.
>
> Yes, but not only would Hagrid have probably not cared how the kids
> were dressed, but his class is outdoors. Since this class takes place
> on the first or second day of school (right?), that means that it was
> late summer.
> Although it doesn't say so in the book, I would assume that it's at
> least warm out, if not hot, and the school robes probably make you
> heat up. I can see people taking off their robes, unbuttoning their
> shirts and loosening their ties if they can. I know I would. :)
Actually, it's September 2nd (at least it is in the book, and
there's no real reason to think it's different in the film) and
they are in Scotland.
It is *not* likely that it's all that warm.
The average daily high temperature for Glasgow (nearest location I
have data for) in September is 60F, or around 16C. Not warm at all.
I actually don't have that much trouble with Hagrid's class though
- it is outdoors, it is away from the Castle, it's probably fairly
casual. I think the kids are a little too casual - especially
Hermione after Buckbeak lands (she looks like she's been dragged
through a bush by one foot), but OK, that's not the normal
environment.
But the kids are sloppy when they are in the Castle. The kids are
sloppy in Lupin's classes.
> Picky, picky. :) Also, as far as Hermione, Ron and Harry being in
> street clothes, I believe JKR states that when the kids are not doing
> academic activities, they wear their regular clothes and not the uniform.
No, she doesn't.
In Philosopher's Stone, p104, when Harry and Ron go to have tea
with Hagrid, Harry wears his robes (Fang drools on them).
In Chamber of Secrets, p202, when Harry and Ron sneak out of the
castle in the middle of the night, they are wearing their robes.
Prisoner of Azkaban, p145, when Harry sneaks off to Hogsmeade -
he's wearing his robes. P206, outside the Shrieking Shack, Ron is
wearing his robes.
I think that's enough to make the point. Every indication in the
books is that under all normal circumstances during the time they
are at school and not in their pyjamas, students wear their school
robes.
I don't really have a major problem with them changing that for the
movie. But it isn't from the books. It is a change.
Yours Without Wax, Dreadnought
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