Definition of a "good movie" for me & Problems with "Ship"ping

[Nia]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 6/24/04 9:08:27 AM, draco382 at y... writes:
> 
> 
> > The movie has
> > become terribly coy and suggestive (and blatant) about Ron and
> > Hermione "ending up together" and even in interviews, the cast 
now
> > openly says that there is something going on with Ron and 
Hermione. 
> > Wow -- that's quite an assumption to make!  Now, I'm
personally 
not
> > shipping in one direction or another, but it surprises me that 
such
> > a strong opinion about this would be expressed -- especially when
> > JKR has a penchant for throwing her audience WAAAAY off guard at 
the
> > last minute.  I am under the impression that the movie makers 
really
> > don't "get" JKR and for that matter, Harry Potter at all. 

To which Clshannon replied:

> Well, I can think of two reasons the movies are leaning towards 
Ron and 
> Hermione 'dating' as it were. One, JKR said herself in an 
interview with Katie 
> Couric that Ron and Hermione had that 'tension'.
> It was during that Dateline interview with JKR in June of last 
year and 
> Couric said something about Harry being a teenager now and having 
to endure spots, 
> etc., and perhaps, 'snogging Hermione?' JKR replied with no small 
amount of 
> surprise in her voice, 'Harry and Hermione?! You think so? I think 
Ron and 
> Hermione, there's more tension there.'


I would think, wouldn't you, that if JKR were writting R/Hr as a 
romantic red herring and H/Hr as the true eventual pairing, that she 
would be more inclined than not to deflect all questions which 
revealed what was truly coming in favor of her red herring. How 
stupid would that be to come out and just tell everyone what was 
going to happen when the books are so cryptic?  It would be like 
shooting oneself in the foot.  As far as I can see, JKR has told us 
precisely nothing.  The famous Katic Couric interview is classic 
deflection, answer a question with a question, then direct attention 
away from the subject at hand.

It is all in the way we, the fandom, wish to interpret what JKR has 
said.  And, just to throw a wrench in the whole thing, on the CoS 
special features disk she says that Columbus forshadowed certain 
feelings "between the three of them that belong to a slightly older 
person."  Does that mean there will be a triangle? Go figure... LOL

And, we must keep in mind that each and every film is the 
filmmakers' interpretation of the books.  I think Cuaron has done 
precisely what JKR told him to do and created a film that was "not 
too literal."  He set out to create a film which focused on Harry 
entering his teens--the problems and the solution that were both 
inside himself.  I think he used the R/Hr interactions as a 
shorthand for the romantic insecurites that are part and parcel of 
being 13.  They are almost like side comments--there is no depth or 
meaning to them and they are played for laughs. Should JKR write 
R/Hr in canon (which I really don't think she will do, BTW) the 
skeleton is in place for the filmmakers to flesh out the romance.  I 
really don't know how they will handle the Yule Brawl scene with Ron 
and Hermione however since they have given us a celluloid Hermione 
that is totally "girl power."

 As for H/Hr, on the other hand, although the relationship is as in 
the books, platonic, there is a real interconnection which can be 
easily developed into a meaningful romance should JKR write it in 
canon.  So, like in the books, I think the filmmakers have left 
things open because like us, they really don't know what's going to 
happen.

Nia