From sophierom at yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 04:43:54 2004 From: sophierom at yahoo.com (sophierom) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 04:43:54 -0000 Subject: new trailer Message-ID: Have you all seen the new trailer? I watched it from the leaky cauldron link: http://the-leaky-cauldron.org I really liked it, but where does the last scene "housekeeping ... I'll come back later" fit into the book? A bit confused. Sophierom From patientx3 at aol.com Wed Mar 3 09:46:01 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 04:46:01 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer Message-ID: <99.43cb27ff.2d770359@aol.com> In a message dated 3/3/2004 1:39:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, sophierom at yahoo.com writes: >>I really liked it, but where does the last scene "housekeeping ... I'll come back later" fit into the book? A bit confused. << I think its in the Leaky Cauldron, but not relating to any specific character; just something going on with one of the other patrons to add 'color' to the scene (personally I think its sort of funny). The trailer is pretty cool though, despite how little it shows. The scene with Sirius screaming is the best part (I'm really excited that it appears they added a flashback scene to Sirius' arrest). -Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Wed Mar 3 16:36:57 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:36:57 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer References: Message-ID: <001c01c4013d$c249dd30$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Yes, I saw it yesterday, and was going to ask if anyone else had seen it too. I liked it, however, it was a little blurry. I downloaded it, and it is even worse. I liked that it showed more of the movie... it was a longer trailer. I agree the housekeeping scene is funny. Not sure where it is in the book either, so I am sure it was added for fun. I plan re-reading the book again right before the opening of the movie; to refresh my memory of events. Kimberly ----- Original Message ----- From: sophierom To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer Have you all seen the new trailer? I watched it from the leaky cauldron link: http://the-leaky-cauldron.org I really liked it, but where does the last scene "housekeeping ... I'll come back later" fit into the book? A bit confused. Sophierom ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joj at rochester.rr.com Wed Mar 3 18:38:55 2004 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:38:55 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer References: <001c01c4013d$c249dd30$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: <002101c4014e$c8ba35a0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> > Have you all seen the new trailer? I watched it from the leaky > cauldron link: http://the-leaky-cauldron.org > > I really liked it, but where does the last scene "housekeeping ... > I'll come back later" fit into the book? A bit confused. > > Sophierom On one of the call sheets that was posted a while back http://www.digicasey.com/images/o/orangecallsheet3.jpg it says this...INT. LEAKY CAULDRON-Room 11 corridor Witch maid is blasted by air. Harry steps out of his room & sees a cat chase a rat. You can see the door to the right open just as the maid turns to leave. So it's 10 seconds of humor, and then on with the plot...Crookshanks chasing Scabbers. BTW, I really like this trailer, especially the music. Very dramatic. You can also see Hermione leaning against a tree watching Harry cast his Patronus. It saves time, as Harry won't have to explain to Hermione what he did. Plus, I think it will be great to see her reaction. That's my favorite scene from the book. There's also quite the debate at "The Leaky Cauldron" about the line Harry says..."He was right there..he was close enough to touch." Some are hearing "she" instead. What about you all? And who do you think this "he" (or "she") is? Joj, who doesn't know if she can wait 92 days! (like she has a choice, lol) From twinslove at mindspring.com Wed Mar 3 22:28:00 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:28:00 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer References: <001c01c4013d$c249dd30$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> <002101c4014e$c8ba35a0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: <003001c4016e$cc7470f0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> ----- Original Message ----- There's also quite the debate at "The Leaky Cauldron" about the line Harry says..."He was right there..he was close enough to touch." Some are hearing "she" instead. What about you all? And who do you think this "he" (or "she") is?>> I thought it was *he*, not she. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From betsymarie123 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 23:36:00 2004 From: betsymarie123 at yahoo.com (Betsy Cortes) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer In-Reply-To: <001c01c4013d$c249dd30$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: <20040303233600.81622.qmail@web60208.mail.yahoo.com> Hello. I saw the trailer and I think that the housekeeping scene will be put after the credits at the end of the movie. You know, like the scene with Lockhart at the end of Chamber of Secrets. Betsy Kimberly Roth wrote: Yes, I saw it yesterday, and was going to ask if anyone else had seen it too. I liked it, however, it was a little blurry. I downloaded it, and it is even worse. I liked that it showed more of the movie... it was a longer trailer. I agree the housekeeping scene is funny. Not sure where it is in the book either, so I am sure it was added for fun. I plan re-reading the book again right before the opening of the movie; to refresh my memory of events. Kimberly ----- Original Message ----- From: sophierom To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] new trailer Have you all seen the new trailer? I watched it from the leaky cauldron link: http://the-leaky-cauldron.org I really liked it, but where does the last scene "housekeeping ... I'll come back later" fit into the book? A bit confused. Sophierom ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? 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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rredordead at aol.com Wed Mar 10 19:07:36 2004 From: rredordead at aol.com (ghinghapuss) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:07:36 -0000 Subject: new trailer In-Reply-To: <99.43cb27ff.2d770359@aol.com> Message-ID: > -Rebecca > I think its in the Leaky Cauldron, but not relating to any specific > character; just something going on with one of the other patrons to add 'color' to the > scene (personally I think its sort of funny). > The trailer is pretty cool though, despite how little it shows. The scene > with Sirius screaming is the best part (I'm really excited that it appears they > added a flashback scene to Sirius' arrest). Mandy here: Not to mention a flash back to Sirius in Azkaban it's self. Will they show his escape? I was thinking if they start adding in all these flash backs we going to lose other parts of the story to keep the films with 2-21/2 hours limit. Not sure how I feel about that as I would love to see all the flash backs filmed, but at what cost? From manda at qx.net Thu Mar 11 04:26:25 2004 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:26:25 -0800 Subject: WB has no plans for special edition DVDs Message-ID: <404F79F1.1152.2ABEED@localhost> Hometheaterforum.com held a chat with Warner Brothers Home Video representatives on Monday. HP was brought up. << Q: Are there any plans to release director's cuts of the Harry Potter films with commentary tracks and more comprehensive special features? WB: HARRY POTTER films are "director's cuts". No plans to revisit these at the moment. >> Le sigh... Here's the full transcript if you're interested: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/files/warner04.txt Amanda -- http://www.jenesaisoz.com From leu02ram at reading.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 19:16:54 2004 From: leu02ram at reading.ac.uk (boristhebewildered2004) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:16:54 -0000 Subject: My version of the new trailer Message-ID: To all of those who have been discussing the new trailer, Am I watching a different trailer to you because the one I have viewed here in England seems to be completely different to the one you're debating. Here's a link for it: http://www.azkaban.com It contains a strange singing choir in the great hall all holding toads which confuses me, but has nothing in the leaky cauldron whith a housekeeper Can anyone shed light on this? And where does the choir fit into the book? Thanks to all Boris the bewildered (Rachel!) From patientx3 at aol.com Fri Mar 12 21:15:23 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:15:23 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] My version of the new trailer Message-ID: <15b.2fedab37.2d83826b@aol.com> In a message dated 3/12/2004 11:33:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, leu02ram at reading.ac.uk writes: >>Am I watching a different trailer to you because the one I have viewed here in England seems to be completely different to the one you're debating.<< The trailer you're watching is the *first* trailer, the one released last November in theaters before 'Looney Tunes: Back in Action'. The other two that have been released (both which have the housekeeper scene) have only been shown on TV so far, one was on during the superbowl, and the other was shown at the end of a british TV show (well, most of the trailer was shown anyway). >>It contains a strange singing choir in the great hall all holding toads which confuses me And where does the choir fit into the book?<< It doesn't. People have been debating on it either being just for the trailer or being used for entertainment in the great hall (instead of ghost formations, I believe), while Sirius is attacking the fat lady. There are links to the other trailers on comingsoon.net -Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From snapesmate at hotmail.com Fri Mar 12 22:04:06 2004 From: snapesmate at hotmail.com (snapesmate) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:04:06 -0000 Subject: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence Message-ID: brought over from the HPFGU because it talks about the movie. I thought it too good a point to be lost due to the fact that it pertains to the movie aside from comparing movie vs, book... --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Frank" wrote: > Hi everyone! > > My apologies if this has already been mentioned, and if this also may seem trivial. I know the movie versions and the book versions are quite different. > > However, J.K. DOES have quite a LARGE amount of input into the > movies ,the content is run by her before being filmed. I am fairly new to this group, but I find that more attention is paid to certain characters over other ones, the same goes for theories. Minerva McGonagall doesnt seem to get much credit as being a real > key to the whole septology, I feel that she is viewed as a "B LIST" > Character. > Here is what I actually found while re-watching the Harry Potter > & the S.S. American Version ( Not sure if there is even a DIFFERENT > English Version of the movies?? Could someone let me know if so??) > > Anyways, if you throw in your DVD, and if your DVD Player has a > timer function that usually begins automatically when the movie > starts, well at the 100:41 position of the movie, you will reach the > scene AFTER Harry is caught flying by McGonagall, and after him and > ron walk up to Hermione where she tells harry he "Won't Mess up", > because Flying/Quidditch "Is in his blood". > > The specific scene is where she leads them to the trophy room, if > at exactly 100:41 you PAUSE/FREEZE the movie, and then ZOOM into the > NAMES displayed on the GRYFFINDOR QUIDDITCH TROPHY where the names > are written, Including "JAMES POTTER" as "Seeker", with the Year > marked 1970, if you ZOOM in even closer and to the right, you will > very visibly read: > > "M.G. McGonagall" 1971 on the name plate to the right of James > Potter. ( To the left of James is "R.J.H. KING 1969" ) > > Now, I only brought this up b/c of JK's role on the content of the > movies, I think this might of been purposely done. But I could be > very wrong. > > Does ANYONE have any theories on this? I dont know off the top of my > head the exact time lines as to when McGonagall went to school, but I > do remember her in POA saying how she remembered James and Sirius > together at school while she was teaching. > > I am going out on a limb here, but I do feel that this "insight" may > have some clues hiding within. > > ** Think of it this way, when reading a Book we are limited by our > own minds and creativity as to the structure of a scene (in the book) > and the details within that scene. No writer ever puts in EVERY > single detail as to the layout of every object in a room etc... We > simply rely on our own personal interpretation of what we are reading > and from there we imagine/paint our own personal mental image as to > how a scene we are reading would look like. > > The image we use in our own mind is made more accurate when we watch > the HP movies b/c we relate how harry should look like to the actors > in the movies? ( We all do it). > > Depending on how you interpret this, one could go as far as call this > a "Contamination" of the mind b/c we are being given by association > an official, realistic/humanistic view of real life actors who play > the "character parts" in the movie, which inevitably will "taint" our > minds when we read the books b/c we will go through a scene with DD > and remember Richard Harris. > > Here is the flaw with ALL of this. How we think, imagine and see the > actors and events in the books in our own minds is incorrect. The > ONLY TRUE interpretation/acting out of the scenes currently ONLY lies > in the mind of Mrs. JK Rowling. > > That is why I feel the movies are an advantage to the readers, b/c JK > has input ( and lots of it) as to the plot of the movie (i.e. She > walked up to Robbie Coltrane {HAGRID} during the filming of one of > the movies and whispered something in his ear relating to an upcoming > event {or past} of Hagrids life etc... which therefor better helped > him play his role) {I understand she did this with many of the > actors}. > > The translation of the books to a movie helps us all re-live the > scenes in our minds, using specific mental images we have already > associated to the books b/c of the movies. > > J.K.'s input to the movies I feel paints a very DETAILED and CLUE > SPECIFIC image of the story ( given that some large parts of the book > have been left out), is very important to the Observation I made > because it just might of been done on purpose. > > > I WELCOME ALL Emails, Comments Or (SUB)-Theories, or Disagreements to > my post, feel free to pick at it in great detail or brainstorm a new > theory, or if your really confused. > > Frank (Fever264 at A...) Good catch, I never noticed it before... nor did I notice that if you look at the plaque to the right you can see the last three letters of a name, "DLE" then the Hogwarts emblem and then the words "for special services to Hogawarts School"! Gee, I wonder what student, whose name ends in "DLE" received this award for maybe catching a "giant of a man" (or halfway at the least,LOL!) type student who got expelled for allegedly releasing a monster from a chamber? Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice guy! From ladypensieve at yahoo.com Sat Mar 13 15:21:42 2004 From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Lady Pensieve) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:21:42 -0000 Subject: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "snapesmate" wrote: > > (In SS) NAMES displayed on the GRYFFINDOR QUIDDITCH TROPHY where the names are written, Including "JAMES POTTER" as "Seeker", with the Year marked 1970, "M.G. McGonagall" 1971 on the name plate to the right of James Potter. ( To the left of James is "R.J.H. KING 1969" )> > Frank (Fever264 at A...) > Good catch, I never noticed it before... nor did I notice that if > you look at the plaque to the right you can see the last three > letters of a name, "DLE" then the Hogwarts emblem and then the > words "for special services to Hogawarts School"! Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice guy! I did see the MG McGonagall long before, and wondered if it would ever come to play in any of the books. I don't think that the screenwriter would do something that much in your face, unless JKR allowed it. However - good catch on the DLE - I hadn't seen that before! Now, doesn't it stand to reason if DLE is there and has meaning, that the McGonagall thing works the same way? So, is this her grandkid, possibly named after her? What happened? Did this person die because of Voldemort? Yes, it leaves open so many questions, doesn't it? Kathy From Dacia_S at msn.com Sat Mar 13 17:52:58 2004 From: Dacia_S at msn.com (Dacia Sycamore) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:52:58 -0000 Subject: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "snapesmate" wrote: > brought over from the HPFGU because it talks about the movie. I > thought it too good a point to be lost due to the fact that it > pertains to the movie aside from comparing movie vs, book... > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Frank" wrote: > > Hi everyone! Minerva McGonagall doesnt seem to get much credit as being a real > > key to the whole septology, I feel that she is viewed as a "B LIST" > > Character. Dacia: I wonder why Peves was left out of the movies. I started reading the books after second movie came out on dvd and I couldn't beleive he was left out. I see him as having a more and more important role in the books. I would have thought Peves would have at least been mentioned. Frank: > the NAMES displayed on the GRYFFINDOR QUIDDITCH TROPHY where the names are written, Including "JAMES POTTER" as "Seeker", with the >>Year marked 1970, > > "M.G. McGonagall" 1971 on the name plate to the right of James > > Potter. ( To the left of James is "R.J.H. KING 1969" ) > > Now, I only brought this up b/c of JK's role on the content of the > > movies, I think this might of been purposely done. But I could be > > very wrong. > > > > Frank (Fever264 at A...) Lynette: > Good catch, I never noticed it before... nor did I notice that if > you look at the plaque to the right you can see the last three > letters of a name, "DLE" then the Hogwarts emblem and then the > words "for special services to Hogawarts School"! Gee, I wonder what > student, whose name ends in "DLE" received this award for maybe > catching a "giant of a man" (or halfway at the least,LOL!) type > student who got expelled for allegedly releasing a monster from a > chamber? > > Lynnette, who thinks Snape IS a good guy, even if he is NOT a nice > guy! Dacia: I saw the plaque but I couldn't see any part of the name, just the four house crests. That was a good catch!! It took me a while to finally see the name on that crest as being McGonagall! I always wondered who King was because like you said, Rowling does have input and I'm sure she has the names of the players, even if they aren't important to the story. Dacia, waiting impatiently for the next movie. From twinslove at mindspring.com Sat Mar 13 23:42:54 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:42:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence References: Message-ID: <002201c40955$0c8ace30$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY> ----- Original Message ----- Dacia: I wonder why Peves was left out of the movies. I started reading the books after second movie came out on dvd and I couldn't beleive he was left out. I see him as having a more and more important role in the books. I would have thought Peves would have at least been mentioned.>> I *thought* the character of Peeves was written into the first movie, but was taken out to conserve time. I know the role was cast, at least. I like the character of Peeves too, and wish he was in the movies causing trouble. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From snapesmate at hotmail.com Sun Mar 14 02:50:19 2004 From: snapesmate at hotmail.com (snapesmate) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:50:19 -0000 Subject: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence In-Reply-To: <002201c40955$0c8ace30$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" wrote: > > > > I *thought* the character of Peeves was written into the first movie, but was taken out to conserve time. I know the role was cast, at least. I like the character of Peeves too, and wish he was > in the movies causing trouble. > Kimberly > I think it was Rich? Rick? Mayall that was originally cast as Peeves, was it not? I think they will have to put the character back in since he has a bit more to do in later books. In OotP, Professor McGonagall even reminds him the lightbulb unscrews the other way round, LOL! From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Sun Mar 14 06:09:36 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:09:36 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Minerva McGonagall & The SS Movie Possible Clue? NOT a Coincidence In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now, doesn't it stand to reason if DLE is there and has meaning, that the McGonagall thing works the same way? So, is this her grandkid, possibly named after her? What happened? Did this person die because of Voldemort? Yes, it leaves open so many questions, doesn't it? Kathy {from bewitchedbyhp} Could McGonagall have been James' Quidditch coach? She was a professor, she was probably in her 30's, she's totally into the sport??? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 14 13:15:00 2004 From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 13:15:00 -0000 Subject: My version of the new trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "boristhebewildered2004" wrote: > To all of those who have been discussing the new trailer, > > Am I watching a different trailer to you because the one I have > viewed here in England seems to be completely different to the one > you're debating. Here's a link for it: > > http://www.azkaban.com > > It contains a strange singing choir in the great hall all holding > toads which confuses me, but has nothing in the leaky cauldron whith > a housekeeper > > Can anyone shed light on this? And where does the choir fit into the > book? > > Thanks to all > > Boris the bewildered (Rachel!) Dear bewildered Boris/Rachel, There are also links to the two different teaser trailers at: http://tinyurl.com/ut81 (hope this works, it's my first attempt with tiny URL's. It's at www.themoviebox.net if it doesn't work out.) You want the new teaser from mymovies.net at the bottom of the page. Alshain From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 14 13:28:45 2004 From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 13:28:45 -0000 Subject: new trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "ghinghapuss" wrote: > Mandy here: > Not to mention a flash back to Sirius in Azkaban it's self. Will > they show his escape? > > I was thinking if they start adding in all these flash backs we going > to lose other parts of the story to keep the films with 2-21/2 hours > limit. Not sure how I feel about that as I would love to see all the > flash backs filmed, but at what cost? You don't need very long flashback portions. There are at least three places where short flashbacks would be in order to "show, not tell", where Fudge tells about Sirius's arrest, where Lupin tells his story in the Shrieking Shack, and where Sirius tells of his escape a couple of pages later. I don't think they'll show the whole escape in the beginning of the film. A first glimpse of a Dementor looking in at Sirius during one of his "He's at Hogwarts!" nightmares would be cool, though. And I dearly hope that we won't see him escaping as a dog, it would ruin the surprise. Dog slipping through bars as flashback, I hope. Alshain, who for the record thinks watching Quidditch scenes on the screen is boring and that it's rather weird to be enraged on the part of a fictional character that said fictional character's been cut from PoA. From patientx3 at aol.com Sun Mar 14 21:57:22 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:57:22 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: new trailer Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/2004 6:08:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk writes: >>You don't need very long flashback portions. There are at least three places where short flashbacks would be in order to "show, not tell", where Fudge tells about Sirius's arrest, where Lupin tells his story in the Shrieking Shack, and where Sirius tells of his escape a couple of pages later.<< There's also the scene in the Three Broomsticks where Harry overhears the conversation explaining how James and Sirius were best friends, and how Sirius ended up arrested, parts of that would certainly be more interesting as flashback than dialogue, and would take up about the same amount of time. -Rebecca (who saw Return of the King again yesterday and *finally* saw the PoA trailer in the theater) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From tim_regan82 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 10:12:34 2004 From: tim_regan82 at hotmail.com (Tim Regan) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:12:34 -0000 Subject: Unexpected treat in Pinter play Message-ID: Hi All, As part of our celebrations of 21 years of walking out together, my wife Kate and I went to see Harold Pinter's "The Dumb Waiter" and some short sketches by him at the Arts Theatre in Cambridge last night. http://www.cambridgeartstheatre.com/pages/sp-dumb_waiter.html http://tinyurl.com/ywt9f It was a really fantastic production. I've seen Pinter plays before and they are always tense, edgy, and surreal, but these were also very very funny. We're the last venue on the tour; the production started off in Oxford. I totally recommend going to see it if you can make it before the run ends on Saturday night. I can hear you all asking what on earth this has to do with Harry Potter. The production was by The Oxford Playhouse and included two actors: Toby Jones and Jason Watkins. They were both amazing; Toby had such a plastercine face! Now, I have it on reliable authority (from Megan, my daughter) that my Dobby voice is better than Stephen Fry's and better than the movie voice, but who did the movie voice? That's right, Toby Jones. I spent some of the evening trying to see if I could recognize Dobby in his acting, but I couldn't. So if you'd like to see Dobby's voice in the flesh, hurry along to the Arts Theatre in Cambridge before the show stops. Cheers, Dumbledad From twinslove at mindspring.com Fri Mar 19 21:53:02 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:53:02 -0600 Subject: USA Today pictures-Treadlawn Message-ID: <004501c40dfc$90f10210$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Hi everyone. I was just curious if anyone saw the pictures of the movie on USA Today? Here is the link.... http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2004-azkaban/flash.htm There is a good one of Trelawney, which is the first close up I have seen of her. Some of the photos you have probably seen and some news as well. Also, Leaky Cauldron has the USA Today article and photos from the article up too. Just thought I'd share.... Kimberly *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Twice Loved ~ Twice Blessed ~ Twins Love mom to Jasper & Ashlynn (10/8/98) http://twinslove.virtualave.net AIM: Twinslove2 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Mon Mar 22 06:59:08 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:59:08 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] USA Today pictures-Treadlawn In-Reply-To: <004501c40dfc$90f10210$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: From: "Kimberly Roth" Hi everyone. I was just curious if anyone saw the pictures of the movie on USA Today? Here is the link.... http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2004-azkaban/flash.htm There is a good one of Trelawney, which is the first close up I have seen of her. {from bewitchedbyhp} Thanks for sharing, Kimberly! I can't believe Emma Thompson is playing Professor Trelawney. I can't wait to see how she, and Gary Oldman, play their new roles!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From willsonkmom at msn.com Mon Mar 22 14:41:58 2004 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:41:58 -0000 Subject: missing scenes SS/PS Message-ID: I'm new to this site, and I hope this isn't an "everyone knows that only a newby would ask such a quesion", but here it is anyway. In SS/PS the movie, Snape asks Harry questions that he can't answer. The scene ends with Snape saying, "Fame isn't everything." In the book, he gives the answers to the class. On the HPFGU site, a post mentioned having seen the part where Snape gives the class the answers. And it seems to be a deleted scene. The person who wrote the post doesn't remember where she saw it. Does anyone know if the deleted scene is available? I'm almost sure I'm seen photos of that scene, but not the scene itself. Thanks, Potioncat From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net Mon Mar 22 20:18:02 2004 From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:18:02 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] missing scenes SS/PS Message-ID: <20040322201802.JCXH11989.out004.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> On the HPFGU site, a post mentioned having seen the part where Snape gives the class the answers. And it seems to be a deleted scene. The person who wrote the post doesn't remember where she saw it. Does anyone know if the deleted scene is available? I'm almost sure I'm seen photos of that scene, but not the scene itself. Thanks, Potioncat {Silverthorne} Hey hey, good to see you here! ^^ Anyway, I don't know where else to find that scene, but the special edition SS DVD set we have at home includes it in the deleted scenes area. The bad news is that you have to 'take' the tasks that were set in the books to reach the stone in order to get to the deleted scenes, and the last test is potions mixing (real fun if you remember any of Snape's lessons, a real pain if you dont because the potion 'explodes', and you have to start all over at the beginning of the tests again...:P) Hope that helped! Anne [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From celticangel76 at earthlink.net Mon Mar 22 19:55:03 2004 From: celticangel76 at earthlink.net (Kelly Crawford) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:55:03 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] missing scenes SS/PS References: Message-ID: <405F4497.000001.03904@KELLY> Potioncat wrote: >> I'm new to this site, and I hope this isn't an "everyone knows that only a newby would ask such a quesion", but here it is anyway. In SS/PS the movie, Snape asks Harry questions that he can't answer. The scene ends with Snape saying, "Fame isn't everything." In the book, he gives the answers to the class. On the HPFGU site, a post mentioned having seen the part where Snape gives the class the answers. And it seems to be a deleted scene. The person who wrote the post doesn't remember where she saw it. Does anyone know if the deleted scene is available? I'm almost sure I'm seen photos of that scene, but not the scene itself. << It's on the second disc of the DVD. You have to go through the little game they have, get your wand, go to the "Classrooms" then use your dvd remote to click on the owls on the on the stone pillar below the fire, then click on the H for Hogwarts on the same pillar. You'll go into the 3rd floor corridor and have to answer questions to get to the stone. When you do that your reward is deleted scenes. CelticAngel From mad_maxime at hotmail.com Tue Mar 23 03:15:22 2004 From: mad_maxime at hotmail.com (mad_maxime) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:15:22 -0000 Subject: missing scenes SS/PS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" wrote: > On the HPFGU site, a post mentioned having seen the part where Snape > gives the class the answers. And it seems to be a deleted scene. The > person who wrote the post doesn't remember where she saw it. Does > anyone know if the deleted scene is available? > Thanks, > Potioncat If you want to see the scene without having to take any tests, rent the VHS tape and fast forward to the end. The deleted Snape scene is there. Max From patientx3 at aol.com Tue Mar 23 08:48:12 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:48:12 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: missing scenes SS/PS Message-ID: <1e8.1beeb1a1.2d9153cc@aol.com> In a message dated 3/22/2004 7:22:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, mad_maxime at hotmail.com writes: >>If you want to see the scene without having to take any tests, rent the VHS tape and fast forward to the end. The deleted Snape scene is there.<< That's a good idea, I didn't know the deleted scenes were on the VHS version. HOWEVER on the dvd if you have a dvd player in your computer you can go to the title menu (usually by left-mouse-clicking) and pick title 65 (or something close to it) you can't get *directly* to the scenes that way, but you can skip most of the tests and get to the potion or key part of 'getting the stone'. (btw, the key is the one in the middle, and the potion is the small, fat one, I think its yellow). Entertainment Weekly actually named SS/PS as one of the worst DVDs of the year because of the hassel getting to the deleted scenes (which may be why CoS has them right there on the main menu of disk 2). -Rebecca (who had a "wonderful" time getting to the scenes the first time) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From manda at qx.net Tue Mar 23 17:15:30 2004 From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:15:30 -0800 Subject: Shortcut to SS/PS deleted scenes (Was: missing scenes SS/PS) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <40600032.29765.2024B5@localhost> The shortest way to get to the deleted scenes on the Sorcerer's Stone DVD (disc 2) is to go straight to title 81. Different DVD players have different ways to do so. On my Sony remote the button is "Search Mode." When you press it, "-- (83)" comes up on the screen. Title 81 will take you to the very end of the flying keys. Next up is the potion bottles. Select the round golden bottle in the center, then the stone on the next screen. Et voila! Deleted scenes at the ready. Manda -- http://www.jenesaisoz.com From willsonkmom at msn.com Tue Mar 23 18:55:03 2004 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:55:03 -0000 Subject: Shortcut to SS/PS deleted scenes (Was: missing scenes SS/PS) In-Reply-To: <40600032.29765.2024B5@localhost> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Amanda Pressnell" wrote: > The shortest way to get to the deleted scenes on the Sorcerer's Stone DVD (disc 2) is to go straight to title 81. Different DVD players have different ways to do so. On my > Sony remote the button is "Search Mode." When you press it, "-- (83)" comes up on the screen. > > Title 81 will take you to the very end of the flying keys. Next up is the potion bottles. Select the round golden bottle in the center, then the stone on the next screen. Et voila! > Deleted scenes at the ready. Potioncat: Thank you one and all! The spells and incantations together with a few curses of my own did the trick...hampered somewhat by a wand (controller) that has been stepped on by children and chewed on by the dog. What a great scene and I never knew it was there! Potioncat From celticangel76 at earthlink.net Tue Mar 23 15:36:19 2004 From: celticangel76 at earthlink.net (Kelly Crawford) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:36:19 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: Alan Rickman/GoF Interview References: <40600032.29765.2024B5@localhost> Message-ID: <40605973.000001.03840@KELLY> Saw this on Leaky Cauldron: >From HarryLatino.com comes this interview with Alan Rickman who was recently in Argentina.When asked if he will be returning for the Goblet of Fire movie Mr. Rickman says "eventually". Read the translation of the interview below. Thanks Andre! Alan Rickman in Argentina The actor that plays professor Snape is in Mar del Plata where the most important latinamerican cinema festival is taking place. He talked a little about the movies in which he will play again Snape. What can you tell us about the new Harry Potter movie? I don't talk about Harry Potter. Is that forbidden by the contract? No, it's just because I don't want to speculate with something in which children's inocence is at stake. But you are in the third one, aren't you? Yes. Have you started the fourth one? They have. I haven't. But you'll be there? Eventually... ***************** There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment. Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so... CelticAngel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Tue Mar 23 23:19:54 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:19:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview Message-ID: <20040323231954.FJZY5247.out014.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> From: "Kelly Crawford" Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment.? Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so... Geez! I guess so! He sounds as amiable as Snape himself! :-0 Now, he doesn't have much of a role in GOF, does he? It's been a while since I've read that one... Maybe that's what he meant by "eventually" he will be going on set to film? bewitchedbyhp [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joj at rochester.rr.com Wed Mar 24 19:45:40 2004 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:45:40 -0500 Subject: New POA trailer Message-ID: <000a01c411d8$96c68fe0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at 6:00 ET. Can't wait! http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/home.html Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From celticangel76 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 24 00:20:56 2004 From: celticangel76 at earthlink.net (Kelly Crawford) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:20:56 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview References: <20040323231954.FJZY5247.out014.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4060D468.000001.00288@KELLY> bewitchedbyhp wrote: >> There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment. Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so... Geez! I guess so! He sounds as amiable as Snape himself! :-0 Now, he doesn't have much of a role in GOF, does he? It's been a while since I've read that one... Maybe that's what he meant by "eventually" he will be going on set to film? << I'm re-reading GoF right now and no he's not in it a great deal, but when he is it's very important. That's the book where we find out he used to be a Death Eater and all that. Of course we also have to remember that Rickman was given some info about Snape by JKR that the rest of us don't know yet so that he could do better in his role. I'm sure he doesn't want to give anything away. CelticAngel From patientx3 at aol.com Wed Mar 24 22:27:56 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:27:56 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA trailer Message-ID: <98.6a5dc90.2d93656c@aol.com> In a message dated 3/24/2004 11:50:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, joj at rochester.rr.com writes: > http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html > > HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at > 6:00 ET. Can't wait! They just showed the new trailer on today's episode of access hollywood. I'm not sure if it was the whole thing or not (i didn't time it), but it seemed long enough. -Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joj at rochester.rr.com Wed Mar 24 22:42:52 2004 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (coolbeans3131) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:42:52 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <98.6a5dc90.2d93656c@aol.com> Message-ID: > > They just showed the new trailer on today's episode of access hollywood. I'm > not sure if it was the whole thing or not (i didn't time it), but it seemed > long enough. > > > -Rebecca Details please?! From idcre at imap2.asu.edu Wed Mar 24 22:55:11 2004 From: idcre at imap2.asu.edu (backstagemystic) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:55:11 -0000 Subject: Alan Rickman/GoF Interview In-Reply-To: <20040323231954.FJZY5247.out014.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: wrote: > > From: "Kelly Crawford" > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview > >> There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment.? Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so...<< > Geez! I guess so! He sounds as amiable as Snape himself! :-0 Now, he doesn't have much of a role in GOF, does he? It's been a while since I've read that one... Maybe that's what he meant by "eventually" he will be going on set to film?< There's a lot more to that interview, which may be why the HP-related portion seems to come off in a sort of abrupt manner. I'm surprised that TLC didn't provide some sort of link to a complete translation - or at least *mention* that the HP-portion was taken out of the context of a larger interview. I've seen one fan translation in an AR forum, and the whole of the interview is very good-natured (with Alan commenting on his love of watching movies (he was in Argentina for a film festival, and he gave an acting master class, etc)and his love of visiting different cultures...and humorously affirming he lives in London ["...that's where I keep my underwear, anyway"). All I can say is, for someone who is reputed to dislike giving interviews, he certainly has willingly given many...and he's very generous with his time with fans. BM From patientx3 at aol.com Wed Mar 24 22:53:46 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:53:46 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New POA trailer Message-ID: <126.3cfa5232.2d936b7a@aol.com> In a message dated 3/24/2004 2:50:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, joj at rochester.rr.com writes: > > Details please?! They actually just posted what was in it on mugglenet....I'll just paste that here since its about what I would write (by the way, it was only about 50seconds that they showed on access hollywood): >> It started out with Snape walking into the DATDO classroom (Same set used in the last two movies). He flicks his wand and the shutters slam shut. It skipped where he said "Turn to page-" but showed him pulling down a screen (?). Then it showed a massive door closing with all sorts of mechanical lock sliding into play with the outline of three figures-two men and a cat. First I thought Azkaban? But what's with the cat? Next it showed three short clips of Dumbledore, Harry holding Hermione and the first dementor gliding onto the Hogwart's Express- and Harry's reaction (While Dumbledore says 'It is not in the nature of a Dementor to be forgiving'). Then I'm guessing they skipped some because happier HP music starts playing and the swirling smokey backround shows up and say 'This Summer.' Harry and Buckbeak soar over the lake and it shows the trio walking down the steps from Hogwarts again. Swirling smoke again says 'Something wicked this way comes.' Then it showed Sirius in the Shrieking shack and Harry standing in that archway with the fountain and an owl flying by, and Harry in a snowy path (Hogsmeade?). As Harry says "I hope he finds me, because when he does I'm gonna be ready" Then Lupin lets the Boggart out of the cupboard and Harry is holding up his wand. (In the Arithmancy room that you can easily tell was once Dumbledores office) Harry then tries to produce a Patronas and a very powerful white mist erupts from his wand, but it didn't show the stag. It shows a very mad Professor Trelawny saying "You must look Beyond!" to who I think is Neville. It shows Aunt Marge floating away with uncle Vernon and Ripper holding on tight. Harry looking scared in what I think is the forbidden forest and Werewolf-Lupin Howling. Then it shows a very fast clip of Ron seeming to immitate a werewolf (He looks insane). Then Boggart-Snape-Neville's Gran flips out spinning and changing into different horrorss, Hagrid looking overhead (Probably at Harry flying on Buckbeak), Trewlawny again in her HUGE specs, the Monster book of Monsters Baring its teeth and opening its eyes, then trying to bite Harry's hands (In a dirty room with a small fireplace in the wall??) Malfoy (flanked by Crabbe and somebody else who isn't Goyle) says "You filthy little mudblood." Then Hermione walks down a hill (not in the snowy place) with Harry and Ron as she says very Angrily "Foul, Lonesome, evil little Cockroach!" then she punches him straight in the face and she says "That felt good" Then the Main screen shows up with 'Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.'<< [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From natmichaels at hotmail.com Thu Mar 25 00:55:19 2004 From: natmichaels at hotmail.com (lorien_eve) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:55:19 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <126.3cfa5232.2d936b7a@aol.com> Message-ID: Is it me, or is Ron in pigtails when he's howling? Is it really Ron? I've watched the clip over and over and over, and it looks like him, but what's up with the pigtails? The review on muggelnet says that it's Ron, but there's no mention of the pigtails. Can anyone else who's seen the clip enlighten me? Lorien_Eve From idcre at imap2.asu.edu Wed Mar 24 22:54:14 2004 From: idcre at imap2.asu.edu (backstagemystic) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:54:14 -0000 Subject: Alan Rickman/GoF Interview In-Reply-To: <20040323231954.FJZY5247.out014.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: wrote: > > From: "Kelly Crawford" > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview > >> There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment.? Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so...<< > Geez! I guess so! He sounds as amiable as Snape himself! :-0 Now, he doesn't have much of a role in GOF, does he? It's been a while since I've read that one... Maybe that's what he meant by "eventually" he will be going on set to film?< There's a lot more to that interview, which may be why the HP-related portion seems to come off in a sort of abrupt manner. I'm surprised that TLC didn't provide some sort of link to a complete translation - or at least *mention* that the HP-portion was taken out of the context of a larger interview. I've seen one fan translation in an AR forum, and the whole of the interview is very good-natured (with Alan commenting on his love of watching movies (he was in Argentina for a film festival, and he gave an acting master class, etc)and his love of visiting different cultures...and humorously affirming he lives in London ["...that's where I keep my underwear, anyway"). All I can say is, for someone who is reputed to dislike giving interviews, he certainly has willingly given many...and he's very generous with his time with fans. BM From celticangel76 at earthlink.net Wed Mar 24 23:21:11 2004 From: celticangel76 at earthlink.net (Kelly Crawford) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:21:11 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Alan Rickman/GoF Interview References: Message-ID: <406217E7.000001.00996@KELLY> Here's a better translation of what he said when asked if he wasn't allowed to talk about it: "No, it's just because I don't want to speculate with something in which children's innocence is at stake." I think that explains it a bit better. He's not being rude, just doesn't want to give anything away. CelticAngel -------Original Message------- From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Date: 03/24/04 16:57:58 To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Alan Rickman/GoF Interview wrote: > > From: "Kelly Crawford" > > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Alan Rickman/GoF Interview > >> There was a debate over at Leaky on what Alan meant by his "children's innocence" comment. Personally I think he just doesn't want to give out spoilers that might end up being cut from the movie and dissappoint kids. But then he also hates giving interviews so...<< > Geez! I guess so! He sounds as amiable as Snape himself! :-0 Now, he doesn't have much of a role in GOF, does he? It's been a while since I've read that one... Maybe that's what he meant by "eventually" he will be going on set to film?< There's a lot more to that interview, which may be why the HP-related portion seems to come off in a sort of abrupt manner. I'm surprised that TLC didn't provide some sort of link to a complete translation - or at least *mention* that the HP-portion was taken out of the context of a larger interview. I've seen one fan translation in an AR forum, and the whole of the interview is very good-natured (with Alan commenting on his love of watching movies (he was in Argentina for a film festival, and he gave an acting master class, etc)and his love of visiting different cultures...and humorously affirming he lives in London ["...that's where I keep my underwear, anyway"). All I can say is, for someone who is reputed to dislike giving interviews, he certainly has willingly given many...and he's very generous with his time with fans. BM From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 04:24:04 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:24:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <000a01c411d8$96c68fe0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: From: "joj" http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at 6:00 ET. Can't wait! {from bewitchedbyhp} I just checked it out. I am Soooooo excited and can't wait for June 4th! Everyone looks so different. The "kids" are looking so mature in the face now. Is Daniel Radcliffe a handsome guy or what!? I'm still uncertain about the new Dumbledore. It may take me 2 HP movies to get over Richard Harris. The new guy doesn't seem as gentle and sweet as the original. But you can't tell that much from just a few shots in a trailer. I'm sure he'll do a good job. He looks the part, at any rate. I love when Hermione decks Malfoy! You go girl! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From draco382 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 25 04:36:10 2004 From: draco382 at yahoo.com (draco382) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 04:36:10 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great trailer and update on the website!! Wow, with every new trailer, this movie looks more and more exciting. I love the "artistic touches" the shrunken head, the glass etching when Ron touches it -- beautiful. LOVE Dan's "EXPECTO PATRONUM" at the end...almost exactly as I pictured it when I read that part of the book. May, Come soon!!! --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe wrote: > > From: "joj" > > http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html > > HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at > 6:00 ET. Can't wait! > > {from bewitchedbyhp} > > I just checked it out. I am Soooooo excited and can't wait for June 4th! > Everyone looks so different. The "kids" are looking so mature in the face > now. Is Daniel Radcliffe a handsome guy or what!? > I'm still uncertain about the new Dumbledore. It may take me 2 HP movies to > get over Richard Harris. The new guy doesn't seem as gentle and sweet as the > original. But you can't tell that much from just a few shots in a trailer. > I'm sure he'll do a good job. He looks the part, at any rate. > I love when Hermione decks Malfoy! You go girl! > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From heidit at netbox.com Thu Mar 25 16:54:53 2004 From: heidit at netbox.com (Heidi Tandy) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:54:53 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Leaky Cauldron Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1080233698.1B6656C@s29.dngr.org> We are having bandwith issues. You can find us today at http://www.livejournal.com/~leaky_inc instead. On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:53am, Jen Reese wrote: > Real-To: "Jen Reese" > > When I tried to open the Leaky Cauldron link this morning, I got a > security alert and it wouldn't open without my verifying > some "certificate". > > What is this? Is it just my firewall, Zone Alarm? This hasn't > happened before, esp. to links I access all the time. > > Jen, hoping a computer expert will come to the rescue! > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin > Files! > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ > > Please use accurate subject headings and snip unnecessary material from > posts to which you're replying! > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 00:08:09 2004 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:08:09 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer -String ties, not pigtails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "lorien_eve" wrote: > > Is it me, or is Ron in pigtails when he's howling? Is it really > Ron? I've watched the clip over and over and over, and it looks like > him, but what's up with the pigtails? The review on muggelnet says > that it's Ron, but there's no mention of the pigtails. Can anyone > else who's seen the clip enlighten me? > > Lorien_Eve bboy_mn: Sorry for the short post. Those aren't pigtails they are the string ties for the knit cap he is wearing, knit/stocking cap with earflaps and sting ties. bboy_mn From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Fri Mar 26 00:27:55 2004 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:27:55 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <000a01c411d8$96c68fe0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joj" wrote: > http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html > > HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at 6:00 ET. Can't wait! > > http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/home.html > > Joj > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] bboy_mn: This is definitely the best trailer yet. No singing frogs... WOO-HOO! I sincerely hope the singing frogs are strickly for the trailer. As far as the trailer, I swear I laughed out loud three separate times when I watched it. http://www.livejournal.com/community/leaky_inc/ The Leaky Cauldron Live Journal has links to the Warner website for the various resolutions of this trailer. Worth looking at. Steve/bboy_mn From HMaffioli at cox.net Fri Mar 26 01:55:03 2004 From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:55:03 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New POA trailer References: Message-ID: <001b01c412d5$5b206440$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Ok is it bad that I am addicted to the trailer? I think I have watched it 10 times today. I love Snape's entrance. Why does it look as though he is about to show a film? I know he says "open your books..." but if you look when he comes in there appears to be an odd sort of projector at the back of the room and a screen up front next to him. This is the DADA class right? Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:27 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New POA trailer --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joj" wrote: > http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html > > HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at 6:00 ET. Can't wait! > > http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/home.html > > Joj > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] bboy_mn: This is definitely the best trailer yet. No singing frogs... WOO-HOO! I sincerely hope the singing frogs are strickly for the trailer. As far as the trailer, I swear I laughed out loud three separate times when I watched it. http://www.livejournal.com/community/leaky_inc/ The Leaky Cauldron Live Journal has links to the Warner website for the various resolutions of this trailer. Worth looking at. Steve/bboy_mn ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From joj at rochester.rr.com Fri Mar 26 04:02:51 2004 From: joj at rochester.rr.com (coolbeans3131) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 04:02:51 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer -String ties, not pigtails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "lorien_eve" wrote: > > Is it me, or is Ron in pigtails when he's howling? Is it really > > Ron? I've watched the clip over and over and over, and it looks like > > him, but what's up with the pigtails? bboy_mn repied: Those aren't pigtails they are the string > ties for the knit cap he is wearing, knit/stocking cap with earflaps > and sting ties. Joj says: If you watch the first trailer, there's a scene of Ron and Hermione in front of the shrieking shack, and Ron is wearing a knit hat with strings hanging down the sides. I don't know why he's wearing it indoors or roaring in the second one though. Joj From anmsmom333 at cox.net Fri Mar 26 17:00:47 2004 From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:00:47 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <001b01c412d5$5b206440$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Heather Maffioli" wrote: > Ok is it bad that I am addicted to the trailer? I think I have watched it 10 times today. I love Snape's entrance. Why does it look as though he is about to show a film? I know he says "open your books..." but if you look when he comes in there appears to be an odd sort of projector at the back of the room and a screen up front next to him. This is the DADA class right? > > Heather You know I was the same way. I kept watching it over and over last night. I love that Hermione slugs Malfoy. I was so looking forward to her slapping him - one of my favorite Hermione moments in POA but this is so much better. And Harry and Ron are grinning just prior. I think I rewinded and watched that scene alone about 10 times. I heard Emma loved filming that scene and asked if she could do it again. My 12 yr old son said 'ooh it sounds like she broke his nose. Cool' Too funny. I was disappointed in the werewolf - he doesn't look like an extra large wolf and that is how I always pictured him in wolf form. Why else would Snape ask how you can tell a werewolf from a regular wolf? I just hope as my 9 year old son said - he is just transforming and hasn't gotten the hairy part yet. As for the entrance of Snape, it does look like a projector and he pulls down the screen just before tell the students to open their books. And I think it is the same set they used for Lockhart to teach DADA so it must be when Lupin is recovering and Snape teaches about werewolves. I also loved the hippogriff flying - IMO it is Sirius flying away so it is somewhat of a flying off into the sunset/sunrise sort of scene. Anyway, just wanted to say I am addicted as well. Theresa From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 01:00:41 2004 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:00:41 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer - Werewolf Quality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" wrote: > ...edited... I was disappointed in the werewolf - he doesn't look like > an extra large wolf and that is how I always pictured him in wolf > form. Why else would Snape ask how you can tell a werewolf from a > regular wolf? I just hope as my 9 year old son said - he is just > transforming and hasn't gotten the hairy part yet. > > ...edited... > > Theresa bboy_mn I agree, I didn't 'get' the werewolf scene that merges into a scene of Ron growling/howling. It looked like a small cartoon werewolf. >From what I heard, they hired some big rugby or football player to play the part of the transformed Lupin. That certainly was no football player in wolf's clothing. One thing, we must be careful of though, in most new movies there is no guarantee that what you see in the trailer is what you will see in the movie. Now days they frequently create scenes just for the trailers or they use scenes that are actualy cut from the final movie. If that really is their werewolf then I am completely disappointed. I'm reminded of what a horrible horrible job they did on Firenze the Centaur in the movies. Firenze is support to be a young handsome blond boy/teen/young_man. What are they going to do when they need to bring Firenze back in Order of the Pheonix? The part that bothers me most is that a centaur can't be that hard to do. If you've seen the syndicated TV show 'Xena - Warrior Princess', or 'Hercules' which is produced by the same people, they had centaurs that were perfection. They had REAL horse bodies and REAL human torsos. There were as real and lifelike as they could possibly be. So, if a small time syndicated TV show can create such realistic Centaurs, why can't a billion dollar franchise like 'Harry Potter'? My feeling is the same regarding the werewolf, if that ridiculous cartoon is their idea of a werewolf, then, without quesion, I feel cheated. Lupin is an important character, and there is a possibility we will see him in wolf form again. It's extremely shortsighted on the studios part to skimp on this special effect. Just a thought. bboy_mn From swaine.t at xtra.co.nz Sat Mar 27 02:39:42 2004 From: swaine.t at xtra.co.nz (Tanya Swaine) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:39:42 +1200 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New POA trailer - Werewolf Quality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040327143652.031e2d70@pop3.xtra.co.nz> At 13:00 27/03/2004, you wrote: >bboy_mn wrote > >I agree, I didn't 'get' the werewolf scene that merges into a scene of >Ron growling/howling. It looked like a small cartoon werewolf. > > From what I heard, they hired some big rugby or football player to >play the part of the transformed Lupin. That certainly was no football >player in wolf's clothing. > >One thing, we must be careful of though, in most new movies there is >no guarantee that what you see in the trailer is what you will see in >the movie. Now days they frequently create scenes just for the >trailers or they use scenes that are actualy cut from the final movie. > >bboy_mn I hope you are right, and it is either a diversion shot or in mid transformation. But I feel it is dangerously close to the werewolf toy. I first saw the image last night, and must of been in a silly mood when I called him a Chinese crested werewolf, ie, no or little hair. Tanya [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Mhochberg at aol.com Sat Mar 27 04:42:20 2004 From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:42:20 EST Subject: New POA trailer Message-ID: <1eb.1c5431e1.2d96602c@aol.com> Bliss. Pure bliss. I just watched the trailer 4 times then did a step by step viewing. Ahh! Questions, questions, questions. And at least one answer. Yes, Snape is about to show slides, I think, not a movie. The projector in the back of the room looks like a cannon with circles containing pictures rotating down to the projection lens. Who is McGonagle talking to when she tells about the Potter's death? And where is she? McGonagle, with no hat, seated on a couch, with a wineglass in her hand! At least her hat and cloak are on the couch next to her. The werewolf looks hairless! Maybe it's only during the transformation, though. And what was the big eyed little red creature behind Ron? ---Mary, wishing she could get her ticket NOW and wondering when the soundtrack CD will be released "Friendship is born at the moment when one person says to another, 'What?! You too! Thought I was the only one.'" (Clive Staples Lewis) From patientx3 at aol.com Sat Mar 27 09:02:16 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 04:02:16 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New POA trailer Message-ID: <154.3125d82d.2d969d18@aol.com> In a message dated 3/26/2004 8:46:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, Mhochberg at aol.com writes: >>Who is McGonagle talking to when she tells about the Potter's death? And where is she? McGonagle, with no hat, seated on a couch, with a wineglass in her hand! At least her hat and cloak are on the couch next to her.<< I think she's in the Three Broomsticks, that seems to make the most sense (at least, that's where she is when she's telling that story in the book). There's a picture in The Leaky Cauldron's [http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/SecondTrailer6.html] shot-by-shot of the trailer. The picture actually shows the heads of the people she's talking to, which makes it easier to tell what's going on (it goes by in a heartbeat in the trailer). -Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ekrbdg at msn.com Sat Mar 27 05:01:46 2004 From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:01:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New POA trailer References: <1eb.1c5431e1.2d96602c@aol.com> Message-ID: <017701c413b8$9bf5bd60$28e8f943@hppav> Isn't it just the best trailer ? I've watched it over and over and over again. As for the sound track, I believe June 1st here in the States is the release date. Kimberly Bliss. Pure bliss. I just watched the trailer 4 times then did a step by step viewing. Ahh! ---Mary, wishing she could get her ticket NOW and wondering when the soundtrack CD will be released --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/19/2004 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Sat Mar 27 19:24:22 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:24:22 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA trailer References: <000a01c411d8$96c68fe0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w> Message-ID: <001e01c41431$2fe5aa30$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY> I finally got to watch the trailer! Yeah! For some reason when I look at trailers on HarryPotter.com, it shows them more as a slide show than a video, but Godric's Hollow had a few of them that I could view perfectly. My son and I have watched the trailer a few times now. My favorite parts was the purple bus (love that shrunken head) and when Hermione punches Draco (that is better than a slap!; you go girl!).Question though: there is a scene where Harry is standing at the end of the hallway looking out at the snow when Hedwig comes flying behind him... isn't that a scene from CoS movie? I thought I have seen it before or maybe it is from the original trailer? I'm taking my twins to see Scooby Doo 2 next Sunday, so I can't wait to see the trailer on the big scene! :-) BTW, I do recommend the snap shot views from Leaky Cauldron's web site. It really helps to see the trailer in slow motion, so to speak. Kimberly ----- Original Message ----- From: joj To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA trailer http://www.hpana.com/news.17962.html HPANA is reporting that the new site look and trailer will debut tonight at 6:00 ET. Can't wait! http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/home.html Joj [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ WARNING! This group contains spoilers! Before posting to any HPFGU list, you MUST read the group's Admin Files! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Admin%20Files/ Remember to use accurate subject headings and to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions? Any problems? Contact your personal List Elf or the List Administration Team at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Unsubscribing? Email HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Movie/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-Movie-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com Sun Mar 28 07:48:35 2004 From: psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com (psychobirdgirl) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:48:35 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <1eb.1c5431e1.2d96602c@aol.com> Message-ID: > And what was the big eyed little red creature behind Ron? > > ---Mary psychobirdgirl here: I too was wondering what that is in the background, close up it looks like a little claymation bird with something in its beak and from further away it looks like a claymation witch. Actually I just went and looked again and I think it may be a house elf. psychobirdgirl, leaving in the beginning of my post because I was so sure at first, and then I was struck with a logical epiphany. From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 00:22:56 2004 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:22:56 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer In-Reply-To: <001e01c41431$2fe5aa30$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: "Kimberly Roth" wrote: there is a scene where Harry is standing at the end of the hallway looking out at the snow when Hedwig comes flying behind him... isn't that a scene from CoS movie? I thought I have seen it before or maybe it is from the > original trailer? If by "original trailer" you me?n those teasers we have seen previously, then you're right. That shot includes one of the new sets for PoS--the courtyard (or was it called something else?) There's a terrific set report featuring that particular set on Leaky. If you look closely at the backfround, you'll see Ron and Hermione leaving through an archway on the other side of the yard. (My guess is that this is just after McGonagall refuses to let Harry accompany the others to Hogsmeade. BTW I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE this trailer? Doesn't it just look like everything you could have hoped for and more? My favourite moment is when Harry shouts "expecto patronum"--it makes my hairs stand on end every time. Also, really dig those sideburns on James in the new photo on Harry's bedside table. Nice move of cuaron (or whoever, to give that photo a 70's flavour to give us a sense of it being an older photograph. Also, a definite decision on era for Harry (who in actuality is swimming around in an indeterminate present as far as that goes.) One more comment: A few of you mentioned the screen behind Snape in the opening shots. There will be a slideshow: one of the e-cards available on the official site show a slide-projector. And finally: jiiiiiiipiiiiiii!!!! Sophia From Resqgal911 at msn.com Sun Mar 28 22:04:28 2004 From: Resqgal911 at msn.com (Tammy Bianchi) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:04:28 -0500 Subject: New POA Trailer - end of trailer References: Message-ID: I have a question! At the end of the new trailer, when Harry yells Expecto Patronum, who do you think is standing in the woods behind him? There is someone standing in front of a tree, behind him, on the right side of the screen. Help? Speculation? ResQGal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From amani at charter.net Mon Mar 29 02:10:28 2004 From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:10:28 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer References: Message-ID: <001301c41533$028fa420$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> ResQGal: I have a question! At the end of the new trailer, when Harry yells Expecto Patronum, who do you think is standing in the woods behind him? There is someone standing in front of a tree, behind him, on the right side of the screen. Help? Speculation? Taryn: I believe it's Hermione. It's the right size and shape and the shirt looks to be (in the dark lighting, anyway) the pink she's been photographed as wearing in these scenes. ---------- Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Mon Mar 29 04:11:14 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 22:11:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer References: Message-ID: <001a01c41543$e0b27380$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tammy Bianchi To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer I have a question! At the end of the new trailer, when Harry yells Expecto Patronum, who do you think is standing in the woods behind him? There is someone standing in front of a tree, behind him, on the right side of the screen. Help? Speculation? ResQGal>> Yes, it is Hermione. The "Expecto Patronum" scene is either before the tree scene (where they are clutching each other by the big tree) or after... my guess is afterwards. It is just showing it out of order. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From patientx3 at aol.com Mon Mar 29 09:50:18 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 04:50:18 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer Message-ID: <4f.3c2145d4.2d994b5a@aol.com> In a message dated 3/28/2004 8:13:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, twinslove at mindspring.com writes: >>Yes, it is Hermione. The "Expecto Patronum" scene is either before the tree scene (where they are clutching each other by the big tree) or after... my guess is afterwards. It is just showing it out of order. << Obviously, as far as the plot goes, Hermione is the only person it *could* be, but the figure does not appear to be wearing a pink jacket....I cannot see even a trace of pink (or any light color for that matter, it looks brown to me) on the coat, though I suppose that could just be the lighting or something. On an unrelated note, does anyone have any ideas about the voice saying "Harry Potter" when Harry is standing with the Maurader's Map? I can't tell who is saying it or *why* anyone would be creepily saying 'Harry Potter' during that scene or any part of the movie. Thoughts? -Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 10:45:46 2004 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:45:46 -0000 Subject: New POA Trailer - end of trailer In-Reply-To: <4f.3c2145d4.2d994b5a@aol.com> Message-ID: > twinslove at m... writes: does anyone have any ideas about the voice saying > "Harry Potter" when Harry is standing with the Maurader's Map? I can't tell who is > saying it or *why* anyone would be creepily saying 'Harry Potter' during that > scene or any part of the movie. Thoughts? > > -Rebecca My guess would be that it's a case of trailer-itis. That creepy voice may not belong to that scene at all, Harry's reaction on screen could actually be to different sound. Unless that voice is there just to further imrpint on the audience that this is a HP-trailer and the new movie is going to be exciting and creepy, my guess would be it's taken from one of Harry's dementor experiences. Although this guess does not match what Harry hears in the book, Cuaron or Kloves could have made some alterations for effect. Also, it seems the most likely setting for a creepy voice. Thoughts? Comments? BTW completely agree with those of you who suggested the person in the background is Hermione. The strength and intensity of Harry's incantation makes me think this is the time-warp sequence where he's saving his own life from the other side of the lake. Sophia From patientx3 at aol.com Mon Mar 29 10:54:35 2004 From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 05:54:35 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New POA Trailer - end of trailer Message-ID: <19a.2260220d.2d995a6b@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:48:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, sophiamcl at hotmail.com writes: >>My guess would be that it's a case of trailer-itis. [snip] Unless that voice is there just to further imrpint on the audience that this is a HP-trailer and the new movie is going to be exciting and creepy, my guess would be it's taken from one of Harry's dementor experiences. Although this guess does not match what Harry hears in the book, Cuaron or Kloves could have made some alterations for effect. Also, it seems the most likely setting for a creepy voice. Thoughts? Comments?<< I figured it couldn't be from the scene its dubbed over (since there'd be no reason for creepy voice calling Harry's name at that point), but I don't know how it would fit in with the dementers either. Maybe it is *just* for the trailer, although that would still leave me to wonder who's voice it is. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 14:29:09 2004 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:29:09 -0000 Subject: Dan or stunt double? Message-ID: OK. I've got another question for you. In the trailer shot where Harry is thrown up against the window of the Knight bus, do think that's Dan or his stunt double? The shot passes by so quickly, and I could understand if they didn't want to risk Radcliffe's nose on it. It just looks to me as if the face smushed against the glass is a tad more angular than Dan's, and as his stunt double is a twenty-something (!) and I just thougth that might be him. Sophia From willsonkmom at msn.com Mon Mar 29 16:24:37 2004 From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:24:37 -0000 Subject: New POA Trailer - end of trailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" wrote: > > > twinslove at m... writes: > > does anyone have any ideas about the voice saying > > "Harry Potter" when Harry is standing with the Maurader's Map? I > can't tell who is > > saying it or *why* anyone would be creepily saying 'Harry Potter' > during that > > scene or any part of the movie. Thoughts? > > > > -Rebecca Sophia wrote: > My guess would be that it's a case of trailer-itis. That creepy voice > may not belong to that scene at all, Harry's reaction on screen could > actually be to different sound. Potioncat: One of the SS/PS trailers did that. Hagrid's voice says something like "Not all wizards are good" as you see Snape on the screen. Of course, that helps set up Snape and in the movie the line is in a different scene. Potioncat From ekrbdg at msn.com Mon Mar 29 02:19:02 2004 From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:19:02 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer References: <001301c41533$028fa420$0400a8c0@charterpa.com> Message-ID: <094901c41534$353895c0$75d6f943@hppav> Taryn: I believe it's Hermione. It's the right size and shape and the shirt looks to be (in the dark lighting, anyway) the pink she's been photographed as wearing in these scenes. No, I don't think it's Hermione. She was in Hagrid's hut and showed up a few minutes later dragging Buckbeak. I think it's Harry, he saw himself. Kimberly From ekrbdg at msn.com Mon Mar 29 02:01:17 2004 From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:01:17 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] New POA Trailer - end of trailer References: Message-ID: <091801c41531$baca08c0$75d6f943@hppav> ResQGal: >> I have a question! At the end of the new trailer, when Harry yells Expecto Patronum, who do you think is standing in the woods behind him? There is someone standing in front of a tree, behind him, on the right side of the screen. Help? Speculation? >> Is it himself that he sees ? Just above that it says "And then it hit him-he understood. He hadn't seen his father-he had seen himself- Harry flung himself out from behind the bush and pulled out his wand. EXPECTO PATRONUM !" he yelled. Kimberly From easytoread at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:41:48 2004 From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:41:48 -0000 Subject: New POA trailer -String ties, not pigtails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Joj says: > If you watch the first trailer, there's a scene of Ron and Hermione > in front of the shrieking shack, and Ron is wearing a knit hat with > strings hanging down the sides. I don't know why he's wearing it > indoors or roaring in the second one though. > > Joj Do you suppose he could be yawning? Cinderz From ruminalus_ficus at yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 19:59:30 2004 From: ruminalus_ficus at yahoo.com (Andrew) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:59:30 -0000 Subject: New POA Trailer - end of trailer In-Reply-To: <094901c41534$353895c0$75d6f943@hppav> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly" wrote: > > Taryn: > I believe it's Hermione. It's the right size and shape and the shirt looks to be (in the dark lighting, anyway) the pink she's been photographed as wearing in these scenes. > > > No, I don't think it's Hermione. She was in Hagrid's hut and showed up a few minutes later dragging Buckbeak. I think it's Harry, he saw himself. > > Kimberly The scene in the movie is probably different than it was in the book. When Harry saw himself he was on the other side of the lake, and the patronus was being cast towards him. So Harry in the trailer is casting the patronus towards himself across the lake. The person standing behind him at the edge of the woods must be Hermione. It makes sense for Hermione to see Harry cast the patronus because he needs to explain verbally (for the audience) when he realizes that he had seen himself. They can then go together to get Buckbeak from Hagrid's hut if he isn't already with them. -RF From bboy_mn at yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 21:16:28 2004 From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:16:28 -0000 Subject: Dan or stunt double? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" wrote: > OK. I've got another question for you. In the trailer shot where > Harry is thrown up against the window of the Knight bus, do think > that's Dan or his stunt double? ...edited... > > Sophia bboy_mn: Here is something you may not have noticed in that scene. Stan the conductor is standing right next to that window reading the newspaper, and although Dan/Harry is thrown the length of the bus and slams into the window, Stan doesn't move a muscle. That would indicate to me that the bus wasn't actually moving during the scene. They cut together images of a moving/stopping bus with a stationary bus, to give the illusion of a sudden stop. So, I don't think Dan was in any real danger. Conclusion, I think it is likely that it was Dan. However, I have seen photos of Dan's stunt double and he is amazingly close to Dan in appearance. At the same time, since the bus was stationary with only the illusion of a sudden stop, this seems like a reasonably safe stunt for Dan. Can't say for sure, but that's my opinion. bboy_mn From sophiamcl at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 21:46:24 2004 From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:46:24 -0000 Subject: Dan or stunt double? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Conclusion, I think it is likely that it was Dan. However, I have seen > photos of Dan's stunt double and he is amazingly close to Dan in > appearance. At the same time, since the bus was stationary with only > the illusion of a sudden stop, this seems like a reasonably safe stunt > for Dan. > > Can't say for sure, but that's my opinion. > > bboy_mn Good one. You're right, they wouldn't need to "stop the bus" of course. I just figured Dan throwing himself up against the window could poetentially smush his pretty face :-) ON the other hand, who says it was done in real time anyway, or in one shot even. Maybe he just placed his face there and then they edited it to fit on the end of stumbling up to the glass--ah the wonders of the modern world.. (Can't believe I'm actually spending time on trying to clear the matter up for myself) Sophia