From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May  1 15:26:16 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:26:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] malkovich as voldemort
In-Reply-To: <009101c42ea9$2fb2bc50$6f6de0d5@sn4097187063>
Message-ID: <BCB939D8.828%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Malkovitch is the absolute best! I'm so psyched! Who is playing him in POA?

bewitchedbyhp


from imdb...
Malkovich Signs for 'Potter IV'


Hollywood star John Malkovich has landed a starring role in the next Harry
Potter movie, playing evil Lord Voldemort. 



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May  1 15:41:57 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:41:57 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] malkovich as voldemort
In-Reply-To: <001d01c42ebd$7035fee0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <BCB93D85.82A%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Oh...too bad. I think he could play just about any role. Hope they get
someone with lots of character. But I respect it if the rule is "Brits"
only.

bewitchedbyhp


UPDATE: CBBC Newsround are now reporting that 'Warner Bros has killed off
the rumor that actor John Malkovich will play Lord Voldemort in the Goblet
Of Fire.'



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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sun May  2 05:31:24 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 00:31:24 -0500
Subject: SNL's Harry Potter Skit
Message-ID: <001a01c43006$b5b26180$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Curious to know if anyone saw Saturday Night Live's Harry Potter skit tonight?
I got to watch it, and I have to admit that it made me laugh.  I don't know if
I would want my five year olds to see it as it certainly had adult humor to it.
Luckily, my twins were tucked into their beds when SNL came on or my son
would have demanded to see it. 

Kimberly
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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mom to Jasper & Ashlynn (10/8/98)
http://twinslove.virtualave.net
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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sun May  2 06:52:13 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 06:52:13 -0000
Subject: SNL's Harry Potter Skit - Summary
In-Reply-To: <001a01c43006$b5b26180$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c725qt+coh1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...>
wrote:
> 
> 
> Curious to know if anyone saw Saturday Night Live's Harry Potter
skit tonight?
> I got to watch it, and I have to admit that it made me laugh.  I
don't know if
> I would want my five year olds to see it as it certainly had adult
humor to it.
> Luckily, my twins were tucked into their beds when SNL came on or my son
> would have demanded to see it. 
> 
> Kimberly


bboy_mn:

Yeah, I saw it, it was pretty funny. For those who didn't, it went
something like this.

Hermione comes back for summer holiday and has boobs (nice big boobs)
because of this Harry and Ron (the twins & Hagrid) are totally
distracted and can't do any magic. 

The Twins flirt with Hermione but all she can focus on is casting
spells against Voldemort. So, the Twin go off to 'beat their bludges'.
Harry asks if they are going to play Quidditch; they say 'no'...nudge,
nudge, wink wink. 

Then Hagrid appears he is also distracted by Hermione's boobs and
decides he needs to go 'tame his dragon'. Harry ask Hagrid if he has a
new pet; Hagrid say 'no'...nudge, nudge, wink wink. 

Then Hermione decides none of their magic is work, and decides to go
take a bath. After she leaves, Ron reminds Harry that he has an
invisibility cloak (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) and they run off to get
it. End of skit.

I may have left out a few minor incidences of sexual innuendo, but
that was the gist of it.

Very nice costumes and a great set for this skit.

bboy_mn






From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sun May  2 06:58:35 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 23:58:35 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SNL's Harry Potter Skit - Summary
References: <c725qt+coh1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <006801c43012$e78341a0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

bboy_mn wrote:

<I may have left out a few minor incidences
of sexual innuendo, but
that was the gist of it.

Very nice costumes and a great set for this
skit.>

You left out Snape which was hillarious but I
agree that they had nice costumes and a great
set.  I also liked both the writing (not only
for the whole skit but there were some nice
bits that indicates at least someone on the
staff has read the books) as well as the
pronunciations which again indicates a writer
has read the book.  I've heard others trip
over even the word "dementors" so it was nice
to have everything flow well.

Only thing they should have added was
probably Voldie himself..I doubt he'd be
after Harry for much longer.

Saitaina
****
Inside my mind that tiny little voice that
tells me when I'm being stupid is flipping
right out. You do not pin the princess of all
of Hyrule up against a wall and threaten her.

Unfortunately I have this awful habit of
ignoring that little voice . . .

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From SnapesSlytherin at aol.com  Sun May  2 05:35:41 2004
From: SnapesSlytherin at aol.com (SnapesSlytherin at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 01:35:41 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit
Message-ID: <11A08142.778E323B.4B073798@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/2/2004 1:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at mindspring.com> writes:
>Curious to know if anyone saw Saturday Night Live's Harry Potter skit tonight?
>I got to watch it, and I have to admit that it made me laugh. I don't know if
>I would want my five year olds to see it as it certainly had adult humor to it.
>Luckily, my twins were tucked into their beds when SNL came on or my son
>would have demanded to see it. 

I loved it!  I taped it!  Although I didn't know it was on until after the "Weasley twins" left.  The Snape part was fantastic!  I love when all the shows start parodying HP...it's hysterical!

To keep this on the movie topic, my sister told me that she was watching Channel One (a kind of kid's news in the US), and they had a preview for PoA!

Oryomai




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sun May  2 16:50:36 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:50:36 -0500
Subject: HP Previews
References: <11A08142.778E323B.4B073798@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c43065$9787b520$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 


  To keep this on the movie topic, my sister told me that she was watching 
  Channel One (a kind of kid's news in the US), and they had a preview for PoA!>>

  I saw it on Nickolean yesterday.  My kids were watching cartoons, and my daughter yelled "Harry Potter".  I
  wonder when they are going to start showing it on national channels like ABC and NBC.  I have yet to see
  it on any network channels, however, I have seen Spiderman several times and it comes out after PoA.  
  I wonder if they will start showing the previews after SS is aired next Sunday.  

  Kimberly







   



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From aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com  Sun May  2 17:32:04 2004
From: aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com (aaoconnor2002)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:32:04 -0000
Subject: HP Previews
In-Reply-To: <000c01c43065$9787b520$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c73bak+nuct@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...> 
wrote:
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> 
>   To keep this on the movie topic, my sister told me that she was 
watching 
>   Channel One (a kind of kid's news in the US), and they had a 
preview for PoA!>>
> 
>   I saw it on Nickolean yesterday.  My kids were watching cartoons, 
and my daughter yelled "Harry Potter".  I
>   wonder when they are going to start showing it on national 
channels like ABC and NBC.  I have yet to see
>   it on any network channels, however, I have seen Spiderman 
several times and it comes out after PoA.  
>   I wonder if they will start showing the previews after SS is 
aired next Sunday.  
> 
>   Kimberly
> 

Day before yesterday I saw a short commercial-like preview on ABC for 
a lot of the specials and other programs they will have on in the 
month of May.  It ended with a quick clip from SS of Ron 
saying "Wicked!" but they didn't say anything else.  Not surprising 
since this was just supposed to be quick flashes of a lot of 
different shows.

Audrey




From diana at slashcity.com  Sun May  2 18:22:45 2004
From: diana at slashcity.com (Diana Williams)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 14:22:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HP Previews
References: <c73bak+nuct@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <056b01c43072$7826cbf0$0a02a8c0@DianaPC>

We saw HP previews several times last night - I think it was Nickelodeon we
were watching - during the Batman animated movie last night (I think it was
called "Mystery of the Batwoman").  It looked like a mix of some of the
others we've seen on line.  It started with Snape stalking into the DADA
classroom, slamming shut the shutters (which I'd seen before), but it had a
part with the hippogriff flying, and with Ron & Hermione accidentally almost
holding hands, then giving each other embarrassed looks.

Diana Williams





From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun May  2 07:23:30 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 03:23:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit - Summary
In-Reply-To: <c725qt+coh1@eGroups.com>
References: <001a01c43006$b5b26180$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
    <c725qt+coh1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3653.4.47.27.225.1083482610.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Steve said:

> bboy_mn:
>
> Yeah, I saw it, it was pretty funny. For those who didn't, it went
> something like this.

Thanks for the recap!  I missed it.  Bad thunderstorm knocked out the
power.  Internet was down for a few hours as well... or whenever it rains.

Dina


-- 
Mirrormere @ http://avia.silverbloom.net/mirror/
^ LOTR FPS/RPS, HP, and Oz fanfic archive ^

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From ladypensieve at yahoo.com  Sun May  2 17:35:38 2004
From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Lady Pensieve)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 17:35:38 -0000
Subject: Download the POA trailer
Message-ID: <c73bha+s0m3@eGroups.com>

For anyone who's interested - and for those of us who couldn't 
figure out how to download the trailer before - Moviefone is 
starting to offer downloads to anyone who's interested.  Naturally 
Harry was the first and only one I downloaded, but now I can watch 
it without having to be online!  Woo Hoo!

Kathy





From amani at charter.net  Sun May  2 18:54:13 2004
From: amani at charter.net (Taryn Kimel)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 14:54:13 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit - Summary
References: <001a01c43006$b5b26180$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>    <c725qt+coh1@eGroups.com> <3653.4.47.27.225.1083482610.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>
Message-ID: <007801c43076$dd179180$0400a8c0@charterpa.com>

Steve said:
> bboy_mn:
>
> Yeah, I saw it, it was pretty funny. For those who didn't, it went
> something like this.

Dina:
Thanks for the recap!  I missed it.  Bad thunderstorm knocked out the
power.  Internet was down for a few hours as well... or whenever it rains.

Taryn:
Apparently there's a video up now! http://www.em-watson.net/wandless/

I'm in the midst of downloading it, so I can't give a review of quality.

----------
Taryn : http://taryn.shirataki.net

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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sun May  2 20:12:24 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 20:12:24 -0000
Subject: French trailer
Message-ID: <c73kn8+sha9@eGroups.com>

Leaky just posted a new trailer (yes NEW, with quite a few new 
scenes!!!) and it made each individual hair on my head stand on end 
(figuratively speaking.) Double- and triple-WOW! This movie is really 
going to be completely different from the first two--in a good way. 
We'll all ache for Harry's heartache--this trailer indicates that we 
will truly see Harry's pain and how he deals with it and it'll be gut-
wrenching. From this trailer I am convinced Daniel will give a blow-
to-the-solar-plexus performance, which I attribute in large part to 
Cuaron's direction. I also get the feeling Hogwarts will seem more 
like a real place this time around--the dialogue, the way the 
students interact, to name a couple of things. Like most of you: I 
can't wait! And I'd live to hear your reactions to this trailer. 
Also, if anyone has any hints on how to make it lighter, please speak 
up.

Sophia

Sophia




From celticangel at thebuffysite.com  Sun May  2 18:22:35 2004
From: celticangel at thebuffysite.com (CelticAngel)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:22:35 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit
References: <11A08142.778E323B.4B073798@aol.com>
Message-ID: <40953C6B.000004.03460@KELLY>

 What was the Snape part?  What'd he do?

CelticAngel

 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Date: 05/02/04 02:14:48
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit
 
In a message dated 5/2/2004 1:31:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Kimberly Roth
 <twinslove at mindspring.com> writes:
>Curious to know if anyone saw Saturday Night Live's Harry Potter skit
tonight?
>I got to watch it, and I have to admit that it made me laugh.  I don't know
if
>I would want my five year olds to see it as it certainly had adult humor to
it.
>Luckily, my twins were tucked into their beds when SNL came on or my son
>would have demanded to see it. 

I loved it!  I taped it!  Although I didn't know it was on until after the 
Weasley twins" left.  The Snape part was fantastic!  I love when all the
shows start parodying HP...it's hysterical!

To keep this on the movie topic, my sister told me that she was watching
Channel One (a kind of kid's news in the US), and they had a preview for
PoA!

Oryomai



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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sun May  2 21:15:13 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 14:15:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SNL's Harry Potter Skit
In-Reply-To: <001a01c43006$b5b26180$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <20040502211513.76041.qmail@web80314.mail.yahoo.com>

Wanted to see it but didn't -- I haven't been able to stay up that late for years.  Presumably Leaky Cauldron or Mugglenet will have a transcript or something (haven't looked yet).
 
We saw the TV trailer for POA for the first time yesterday.  My almost-three-year-old was very impressed!  He has never been to the movies before the POA is going to be his first movie seen in the theatre (I am going to take off work and bring him to a matinee).
 
Gretchen

Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:


Curious to know if anyone saw Saturday Night Live's Harry Potter skit tonight?
I got to watch it, and I have to admit that it made me laugh.  I don't know if
I would want my five year olds to see it as it certainly had adult humor to it.
Luckily, my twins were tucked into their beds when SNL came on or my son
would have demanded to see it. 

Kimberly

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From classicharrypotter at yahoo.com  Sun May  2 21:17:23 2004
From: classicharrypotter at yahoo.com (classicharrypotter)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 21:17:23 -0000
Subject: new hptcg site
Message-ID: <c73oh3+3k13@eGroups.com>

Hello. I am making a new HP trading card game site for those of you 
who still love the game. The site is up and running at 
www.geocities.com/classicharrypotter. I am updating it everyday. I am 
doing this website on my own free time and for the love of the tcg. 
All i ask is for you to stop by, sign the guestbook and take a look 
around. I use to visit pojos hp site all the time but they have since 
stopped updating it unless juicy news comes out and I just wanted to 
use some of my free time to hopefully get this tcg back on its feet 
since there arent many hp trading card game sites that are still 
updated. So stop by and email me what you think. I hope that soon 
will have good traffic but its still under construction and almost 
all the links are fuctional except a few. then after those links are 
completed I will start on many other ideas I have for the site. Hope 
to see you there!





From patientx3 at aol.com  Sun May  2 22:44:26 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:44:26 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] French trailer
Message-ID: <102.441ae790.2dc6d3ca@aol.com>

I just saw it too...it gave away *far* too much. Honestly, at this rate there 
won't be anything left when I see the movie! I only watched the low 
resolution one (since the high wouldn't load), and I stopped myself from watching it 
again or saving it. As exciting as it is to see Sirius speak (!), I really wish 
it would have been a less important line, I want there to be *something* to 
look forward to when the movie actually comes out....the trailer was awesome 
though!


-Rebecca 


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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon May  3 03:31:45 2004
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 03:31:45 -0000
Subject: trailer in theaters
Message-ID: <c74ef1+m0js@eGroups.com>

Who would have thought?  I cheered inside when my husband offered to 
be the one to take my youngest to see "Clifford's Big Movie." Of 
course they got to see the POA trailer on the big screen.  My 9 year 
old has seen in 3 times now!
Potioncat




From HMaffioli at cox.net  Mon May  3 04:12:54 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:12:54 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trailer in theaters
References: <c74ef1+m0js@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c430c4$e8ebb060$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

I was thrilled to see it also, when I took my son to see Clifford.  Unfortunately, he was not so thrilled.  He is 2 1/2 and was quite scarred by it.  In fact, I really think it was not an appropriate movie to pair it with.


Heather





----- Original Message ----- 
  From: potioncat 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:31 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trailer in theaters


  Who would have thought?  I cheered inside when my husband offered to 
  be the one to take my youngest to see "Clifford's Big Movie." Of 
  course they got to see the POA trailer on the big screen.  My 9 year 
  old has seen in 3 times now!
  Potioncat



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From ekrbdg at msn.com  Sun May  2 23:39:07 2004
From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly MARTIN)
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:39:07 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] French trailer
Message-ID: <BAY3-F4IKaGjcAbeYrv0000454c@hotmail.com>


Yikes !    I've downloaded it but haven't watched it yet.    Should I hold 
out
for the movie ?     Everyone else that's watched it, does it indeed give 
away
too much ?

Kimberly M.


>I just saw it too...it gave away *far* too much. Honestly, at this rate 
>there won't be anything left when I see the movie! I only watched the low 
>resolution one (since the high wouldn't load), and I stopped myself from 
>watching it again or saving it. As exciting as it is to see Sirius speak 
>(!), I really wish it would have been a less important line, I want there 
>to be *something* to look forward to when the movie actually comes 
>out....the trailer was awesome though!


>-Rebecca

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From easytoread at hotmail.com  Mon May  3 03:16:00 2004
From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 03:16:00 -0000
Subject: French trailer
In-Reply-To: <102.441ae790.2dc6d3ca@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c74dhg+984g@eGroups.com>

I thought the same thing about the Lord of the Rings movies, but when 
I watched the movies I found that the commercials were just a tiny 
tiny part of the whole thing. I'm hoping the same thing will apply 
here.

Cheers,
Cinderz :)

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> I just saw it too...it gave away *far* too much. Honestly, at this 
rate there 
> won't be anything left when I see the movie! I only watched the low 
> resolution one (since the high wouldn't load), and I stopped myself 
from watching it 
> again or saving it. As exciting as it is to see Sirius speak (!), I 
really wish 
> it would have been a less important line, I want there to be 
*something* to 
> look forward to when the movie actually comes out....the trailer 
was awesome 
> though!
> 
> 
> -Rebecca 
> 
> 
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From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May  3 08:02:44 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 04:02:44 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: French trailer
Message-ID: <68.3e670d32.2dc756a4@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/3/2004 12:05:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
easytoread at hotmail.com writes:

>>I thought the same thing about the Lord of the Rings movies, but when 
I watched the movies I found that the commercials were just a tiny 
tiny part of the whole thing. I'm hoping the same thing will apply 
here.<<

The other trailers haven't given away too much...and for the most part this 
one doesn't either (at least plot-wise), but there's some scenes I'd rather not 
see until I'm watching the movie (as much as I'd *like* to see them now, its 
much better seeing them in context), that includes pretty much all of the 
shrieking shack scenes, which the French trailer showed part of (the 'you'll have 
to kill all three of us' line). However, I guess its too dark to give it 
completely away, I could hardly see it at all.


-Rebecca


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May  3 12:41:01 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:41:01 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Previews
Message-ID: <53.adf4562.2dc797dd@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:27:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
My kids were watching cartoons, and my daughter yelled "Harry Potter".  I
We Tivo several shows and on Sunday night, two of them are on ABC ("Alias" 
and "The Practice").  We got inside to watch TV late last night, so we watched 
the recording rather than the "live" shows so we wouldn't miss anything, which 
means we're zipping past commercials at thirty frames per second or some such. 
 Middle aged me, like your daughter, yelled "HARRY POTTER!" every time there 
was an ad for the movie coming on ABC last week. My husband thinks I'm very 
silly, but at least I'm not making him watch Nick hoping to see HP previews 
(wish I could ask him to watch Nick for HP previews without feeling silly!!)  I 
wish there was some way to get the "powers that be" to realize there are lots of 
ADULT fans out here.  We go to the movies a lot, and I have yet to see the HP 
trailer (grrrrr) except for the gazillion times I've watched it online.  
*sigh*

Sign me "frustrated and can't wait till May 8 and June 4!"


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May  3 13:06:05 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:06:05 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] French trailer
Message-ID: <42.4ced52da.2dc79dbd@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:27:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Leaky just posted a new trailer (yes NEW, with quite a few new 
scenes!!!) and it made each individual hair on my head stand on end 
(figuratively speaking.) Double- and triple-WOW!
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I truly had goose bumps!  Oh my!  I have the feeling 
seeing this movie 5 times in the theater won't be nearly enough. . .sure wish this 
trailer could be seen better!!  Please post if you see it online in a brighter 
image!!

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon May  3 13:58:00 2004
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 13:58:00 -0000
Subject: trailer in theaters
In-Reply-To: <003b01c430c4$e8ebb060$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <c75j58+h7a2@eGroups.com>

Potioncat:
I agree! I was certain there was no chance of it being shown!  Even 
my 9 year old commented on that. In fact when we went to see Home on 
the Range with another mom and kids, I warned her about the PoA 
trailer.
Potioncat 

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Heather Maffioli" 
<HMaffioli at c...> wrote:
> I was thrilled to see it also, when I took my son to see 
Clifford.  Unfortunately, he was not so thrilled.  He is 2 1/2 and 
was quite scarred by it.  In fact, I really think it was not an 
appropriate movie to pair it with.
> 
> 
> Heather
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: potioncat 
>   To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:31 PM
>   Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trailer in theaters
> 
> 
>   Who would have thought?  I cheered inside when my husband 
offered to 
>   be the one to take my youngest to see "Clifford's Big Movie." Of 
>   course they got to see the POA trailer on the big screen.  My 9 
year 
>   old has seen in 3 times now!
>   Potioncat
> 
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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Mon May  3 15:39:55 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:39:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Previews
In-Reply-To: <53.adf4562.2dc797dd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040503153955.50334.qmail@web80305.mail.yahoo.com>


--- artsylynda at aol.com wrote:

---------------------------------
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:27:29 AM Eastern
Standard Time, 

 Middle aged me, like your daughter, yelled "HARRY
POTTER!" every time there 
was an ad for the movie coming on ABC last week.

Don't feel bad -- middle aged me was doing exactly the
same thing, and it was neck-and-neck who was more
excited to see the trailers, my almost-three-year-old
or me.  Thank God my son legitimately watches some
shows on Nick!

Gretchen

=====
Visit the Mr. Baby Blog:  http://gretchenb.tripod.com/mrbaby/



From Ladycat16 at aol.com  Mon May  3 14:07:17 2004
From: Ladycat16 at aol.com (Ladycat16 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 10:07:17 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: French trailer
Message-ID: <4D6B99E6.545B080F.02576AF9@aol.com>


Hello everyone. I just finished watching the new trailor this morning. Can I just oh my gosh, I am so excited for the movie, my heart is still pulsating from the impact of some of the scenes. Nothing was really let on plot wise, just some different edits of what we have seen with a few twists. I can honestly say I am so happy about what I have seen, now my patience for the movie is dwindling down so much. I just hope that these trailors can tie me over.

Tiffany




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Mon May  3 18:51:10 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 18:51:10 -0000
Subject: French trailer
In-Reply-To: <42.4ced52da.2dc79dbd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c764au+deod@eGroups.com>

Lynda wrote:
"sure wish this trailer could be seen better!!  Please post if you 
see it online in a brighter image!!"

Not to worry. This particular trailer was shown on tv, which is 
probably why the quality is so poor. I see no reason it shouldn't 
turn up in a more "official" venue on the net eventually (let's hope 
soon!) which would mean it'll be much higher quality!

Sophia




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Mon May  3 19:26:22 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 19:26:22 -0000
Subject: French trailer
In-Reply-To: <c764au+deod@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c766cu+8jg9@eGroups.com>

I just watched it during my lunch hour at work. It would be nice to 
have a better quality one to see but I was able to view it alright. I 
watched it in Windows Media player and if you have that you go up to 
view, now playing tools, video settings and a little sub window shows 
up with brightness etc bars. I just moved the brightness one to the 
right a tiny bit and you could easily see the scenes.

Daniel is becoming quite a brilliant actor. I loved the scene with 
him angry about Sirius betraying his parents. Great emotion shown 
there. 

Only one thing troubles me...this is the second movie where Hermione 
says Ron's lines from the book. In Chamber of Secrets she said all 
the stuff about what a mudblood was, it came off rather well but that 
was not her line and in this one it is her that says the line to 
Sirius about 'if you want to kill Harry you will have to kill us 
too.' Don't get me wrong I think she is also become quite a good 
young actress but these lines I think would show a non-goofy side to 
Ron. He seems like the comic relief in the films and I would love to 
see him like he was in the chess scene in PS/SS. I would just like to 
see his potential as an actor shown. 

Ok I guess that is enough on that. It is a great trailer and I can 
hardly wait to see it.

Theresa

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
wrote:
> Lynda wrote:
> "sure wish this trailer could be seen better!!  Please post if you 
> see it online in a brighter image!!"
> 
> Not to worry. This particular trailer was shown on tv, which is 
> probably why the quality is so poor. I see no reason it shouldn't 
> turn up in a more "official" venue on the net eventually (let's 
hope 
> soon!) which would mean it'll be much higher quality!
> 
> Sophia




From CMeehan1 at aol.com  Mon May  3 19:48:38 2004
From: CMeehan1 at aol.com (CMeehan1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:48:38 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: French trailer
Message-ID: <147.28870165.2dc7fc16@aol.com>

I loved the trailer but I agree with Theresa they need to stop giving all of 
Ron's lines to Hermione.  Ron should say "if you want to kill Harry you have 
to kill us too"

just my two knuts!

Caroline


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From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May  3 20:07:08 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:07:08 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: French trailer
Message-ID: <196.29080f51.2dc8006c@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/3/04 12:52:39 PM, CMeehan1 at aol.com writes:


> I loved the trailer but I agree with Theresa they need to stop giving all 
> of
> Ron's lines to Hermione.? Ron should say "if you want to kill Harry you have
> to kill us too"
> 

Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but until the whole discussion started up on 
The Leaky Cauldron site comment section, I didn't even remember whose line that 
was ;-) And I have read POA more than a few times.
Frankly, as long as one of them says it, it makes me happy - shows how much 
they care about Harry <g>.
Lines are always changed in movie adaptations - it's just the way it is. The 
book is the book, the movies are movies - different mediums, etc. But I don't 
want to get into that whole discussion again!
Anyway, I loved the French trailer. Loved Dan's angry Harry delivery and all 
the shots of things we haven't seen before. Just makes me want June 4th to get 
here sooner! <g>
Cindy 


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From swaine.t at xtra.co.nz  Mon May  3 20:07:17 2004
From: swaine.t at xtra.co.nz (Tanya Swaine)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:07:17 +1200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: French trailer
In-Reply-To: <c766cu+8jg9@eGroups.com>
References: <c764au+deod@eGroups.com>
 <c766cu+8jg9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040504080326.02904100@pop3.xtra.co.nz>

Is there a site where this can be downloaded?

Thanks, Tanya


At 07:26 4/05/2004, you wrote:

>I just watched it during my lunch hour at work. It would be nice to
>have a better quality one to see but I was able to view it alright. I
>watched it in Windows Media player and if you have that you go up to
>view, now playing tools, video settings and a little sub window shows
>up with brightness etc bars. I just moved the brightness one to the
>right a tiny bit and you could easily see the scenes.
>
>Daniel is becoming quite a brilliant actor. I loved the scene with
>him angry about Sirius betraying his parents. Great emotion shown
>there.
>
>Only one thing troubles me...this is the second movie where Hermione
>says Ron's lines from the book. In Chamber of Secrets she said all
>the stuff about what a mudblood was, it came off rather well but that
>was not her line and in this one it is her that says the line to
>Sirius about 'if you want to kill Harry you will have to kill us
>too.' Don't get me wrong I think she is also become quite a good
>young actress but these lines I think would show a non-goofy side to
>Ron. He seems like the comic relief in the films and I would love to
>see him like he was in the chess scene in PS/SS. I would just like to
>see his potential as an actor shown.
>
>Ok I guess that is enough on that. It is a great trailer and I can
>hardly wait to see it.
>
>Theresa



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From aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com  Mon May  3 20:36:43 2004
From: aaoconnor2002 at yahoo.com (aaoconnor2002)
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 20:36:43 -0000
Subject: HP Previews
In-Reply-To: <53.adf4562.2dc797dd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c76agr+ak8u@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
 
>  Middle aged me, like your daughter, yelled "HARRY POTTER!" every 
time there 
> was an ad for the movie coming on ABC last week. My husband thinks 
I'm very 
> silly, but at least I'm not making him watch Nick hoping to see HP 
previews 
> (wish I could ask him to watch Nick for HP previews without feeling 
silly!!)  I 
> wish there was some way to get the "powers that be" to realize 
there are lots of 
> ADULT fans out here.  We go to the movies a lot, and I have yet to 
see the HP 
> trailer (grrrrr) except for the gazillion times I've watched it 
online.  
> *sigh*
> 
My husband and I (both in our mid 40's) go out to the movies a couple 
of times a month.  Yesterday we went out to see Disney's "Home on the 
Range"  Yes, go ahead and laugh.  We don't mind.  Anyway just before 
the previews started my husband took the popcorn out of my hand and 
scooted one seat away from me.  Before I could ask him why there was 
Professor Snape, on screen, storming through the door.  When the 
trailer was over my husband moved back next to me, handed the popcorn 
back to me, and said, "It's taken me two weeks to get over the 
bruised ribs I got the last time we saw that."

I guess I'm one middle-aged woman who needs to control herself better 
in public.........nah, not going to happen!

Audrey




From arielock at aol.com  Tue May  4 15:59:28 2004
From: arielock at aol.com (arielock at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:59:28 EDT
Subject: Ron's lines
Message-ID: <9e.9963879.2dc917e0@aol.com>

Theresa wrote:
"Only one thing troubles me...this is the second movie where Hermione 

says Ron's lines from the book. In Chamber of Secrets she said all 

the stuff about what a mudblood was, it came off rather well but that 

was not her line and in this one it is her that says the line to 

Sirius about 'if you want to kill Harry you will have to kill us 

too.' Don't get me wrong I think she is also become quite a good 

young actress but these lines I think would show a non-goofy side to 

Ron. He seems like the comic relief in the films and I would love to 

see him like he was in the chess scene in PS/SS. I would just like to 

see his potential as an actor shown. "

Arianna writes:
    To be blunt, I think they are giving Emma Watson so much of the important 
dialogue simply because she is the strongest actor out of the three leads.   
Truly, the girl is gifted.   You can actually *see* her thinking, she's so in 
the moment.  The boy who plays Ron is as cute as a button, and was quite good 
in the first film, but his acting in the second movie was rather poor, 
consisting mainly of mugging to the camera.   It is not his fault, he is a child who 
had no previous acting experience and Chris Columbus should have been teaching 
him how to act: that was his job as the director.  Rupert Grint certainly has 
natural talent, but he does not seem to have worked much on character 
development, or he has not been shown how to convey an inner world.   Once again, 
it's Columbus' fault, not his.   Emma Watson, on the other hand, is just 
brilliant.  

Arianna



From CMeehan1 at aol.com  Tue May  4 18:33:28 2004
From: CMeehan1 at aol.com (CMeehan1 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:33:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ron's lines
Message-ID: <1ab.23b90e80.2dc93bf8@aol.com>

Actually, I have a different opinion.  I think Rupert is a better actor in 
the first two movies than Emma.  It does look like she does a good job in this 
movie.  

I've read where Steve Kloves said Hermione was his favorite character so 
maybe this is why he gives her some of Ron's lines.  My problem with this though 
is that I think the films may be diminishing Ron's character...  We'll just 
have to see on June 4!

Caroline


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May  4 18:56:45 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ron's lines
In-Reply-To: <1ab.23b90e80.2dc93bf8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040504185645.9361.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>

I *would* like to see Rupert given more to do.  The
problem I had with Ron Weasley in the second movie was
that all he ever did was wear this look on his face
like he was about to crap his pants in terror, and
most of what I've seen from POA looks like more of the
same.  I don't think it's so much a matter of him not
being able to act, as the director not calling on him
to do much more than look like he's about to crap his
pants.  I think he's capable of much more.

Gretchen

--- CMeehan1 at aol.com wrote:

---------------------------------
Actually, I have a different opinion.  I think Rupert
is a better actor in 
the first two movies than Emma.  It does look like she
does a good job in this 
movie.  

I've read where Steve Kloves said Hermione was his
favorite character so 
maybe this is why he gives her some of Ron's lines. 
My problem with this though 
is that I think the films may be diminishing Ron's
character...  We'll just 
have to see on June 4!

Caroline

=====
Visit the Mr. Baby Blog:  http://gretchenb.tripod.com/mrbaby/



From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue May  4 19:08:43 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 15:08:43 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 891
Message-ID: <a9.56b7d6e0.2dc9443b@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/4/2004 5:58:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Daniel is becoming quite a brilliant actor. I loved the scene with 
him angry about Sirius betraying his parents. Great emotion shown 
there. 
absolutely.  His rage was so heartfelt and real!  I remember reading that 
he'd talked to his dad about when his dad heard someone being murdered across the 
street (when his dad was 8 and they lived in Northern Ireland during the 
'troubles').  That and listening to what Rupert called 'scary music' made this kid 
from what seems to be a relatively happy home (he seems to be pretty normal, 
after all) capable of showing such rage?  Amazing.  I can't remember the last 
time a teenager (and a young one at that) had me in goosebumps in a movie or 
even a trailer.  What kills me is that I just read this is the shortest HP 
movie yet.  ARGH!!!!!!!!  With the quality we've seen in the trailers so far, I'd 
hoped it would be longer!!  And they're expecting kids to sit through a 4 hour 
show on Sunday night (granted, there will be commercials for potty breaks, 
but still, four hours is four hours), so why can't we have longer movies?  
grrrrrrrrrrrr

>>one thing troubles me...this is the second movie where Hermione 
says Ron's lines from the book. In Chamber of Secrets she said all 
the stuff about what a mudblood was, it came off rather well but that 
was not her line and in this one it is her that says the line to 
Sirius about 'if you want to kill Harry you will have to kill us 
too.' Don't get me wrong I think she is also become quite a good 
young actress but these lines I think would show a non-goofy side to 
Ron. He seems like the comic relief in the films and I would love to 
see him like he was in the chess scene in PS/SS. I would just like to 
see his potential as an actor shown. <<

I completely agree! I like Rupert as Ron, and I love his very funny website.  
I don't understand why all the interviews seem to be Dan and Emma, not Dan, 
Emma and Rupert -- RON's his best mate, honestly, Hermione is also a best 
friend, but the boys are like brothers.  Ron shows courage in the books, yet he's 
the "comic sidekick" in the films (which nearly always means he's going to die 
-- that seems to be pretty common in films).  I don't honestly think JKR is 
going to kill Ron off any time soon (hopefully never!), and I cannot figure out 
why they keep giving Hermione Ron's lines -- or why they won't let Rupert talk 
in interviews more (yes, he does tend to talk about the icky things like 
eating slugs and getting a mouth full of grass rather than speaking more maturely 
like Dan and Emma, but still, the kid's funny and I'd like to hear more from 
him).  Dan's my favorite, but please, more Rupert!  

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Tue May  4 21:35:30 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 21:35:30 -0000
Subject: Ron's lines
In-Reply-To: <20040504185645.9361.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c792b2+uiu7@eGroups.com>

 Gretchen Crumpacker wrote:
 I don't think it's so much a matter of him not
> being able to act, as the director not calling on him
> to do much more than look like he's about to crap his
> pants.  I think he's capable of much more.

Amen to that! I have always had the sneaking suspicion that Rupert is 
potentially the best actor of the trio, but has not been given the 
room or the direction to show it. He was by far the best of the three 
in PS--completely natural, every line he delivered came from his 
character and the situation, whereas the Dan's and Emma's clearly had 
a few glitches. 

Alas,  Rupert was not allowed to show or develop his potential in CS, 
but, check out "Emma returns" scene, where we get a hint that there 
us some potential chemistry there and Ron abstains from hugging her--
Rupert did that so well, the combined delight and embarrassment. That 
little scene made me think this boy has the makings of a really good 
actor. Let's hope he has the good fortune of receiving some really 
good direction down the line.

I don't think we should worry too much about PoA yet. From what we've 
seen in the trailers, it appears Cuaron has coaxed Dan and Emma into 
really good performances. Ron has not really featured in the clips 
yet, but there's no reason to believe he's been left out. I'm 
confident Cuaron has helped him develop tenfold too.

Sophia




From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue May  4 21:36:50 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:36:50 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ron's lines
Message-ID: <15c.33866660.2dc966f2@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/4/2004 11:35:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
CMeehan1 at aol.com writes:

>>I've read where Steve Kloves said Hermione was his favorite character so 
maybe this is why he gives her some of Ron's lines.  My problem with this 
though 
is that I think the films may be diminishing Ron's character...  <<

I think he might do that because a lot of the times Hermione has very little 
to say. Someone on the Leaky boards posted a link to the Chamber of Secrets 
script (which was rather horryfying to read because it had a lot more continuity 
than the movie, like  foreshadowing about Ginny's "problem", and it actually 
had the MoM issuing Harry a warning for the whole Dobby using magic thing), 
and its odd how if you follow the book Ron has A LOT more to say and do than 
Hermione does. I think the line swapping for the most part is just to balence her 
out. Most of the time it doesn't really matter, its just when they give her 
*Dumbledore's* lines or when they take away *important* lines from Ron. 
As far as the Shrieking Shack scenes goes, I'm hoping that they are just 
"splitting" the line (for those who haven't seen the French trailer, in it 
Hermione says Ron's "you'll have to kill all three of us" line). Because in the book 
Ron says it twice; it could be that he says it the first time, and then 
Hermione repeats it because he can barely talk because of his leg. That wouldn't 
bother me, as long as Ron says it *first*, that's one of his best moments in the 
books, I would hate to see it turned into a "Hermione moment".


-Rebecca


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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 03:51:28 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 03:51:28 -0000
Subject: Ron's lines
In-Reply-To: <20040504185645.9361.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7cco0+ebg3@eGroups.com>

I agree entirely, Gretchen. That is the director's job. Not only 
that, but most movies hire at least one acting coach for the kids. 
Someone should be calling him on this. He's perfect for a movie 
aimed at little kids who laugh at anything. I own an acting school 
myself and I use him as an example of what not to do.  "Making faces 
does not a great actor make." 

~Deborah

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Gretchen Crumpacker 
<gcrumpac at p...> wrote:
> I *would* like to see Rupert given more to do.  The
> problem I had with Ron Weasley in the second movie was
> that all he ever did was wear this look on his face
> like he was about to crap his pants in terror, and
> most of what I've seen from POA looks like more of the
> same.  I don't think it's so much a matter of him not
> being able to act, as the director not calling on him
> to do much more than look like he's about to crap his
> pants.  I think he's capable of much more.
> 
> Gretchen
> 
> --- CMeehan1 at a... wrote:
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Actually, I have a different opinion.  I think Rupert
> is a better actor in 
> the first two movies than Emma.  It does look like she
> does a good job in this 
> movie.  
> 
> I've read where Steve Kloves said Hermione was his
> favorite character so 
> maybe this is why he gives her some of Ron's lines. 
> My problem with this though 
> is that I think the films may be diminishing Ron's
> character...  We'll just 
> have to see on June 4!
> 
> Caroline
> 
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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 03:53:48 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 03:53:48 -0000
Subject: startup sounds, etc.
Message-ID: <c7ccsc+cro0@eGroups.com>

Hi, 

Has anyone found a site to download startup sounds? I've seen places 
with a few quote from the movies, but I'm looking more for snippets 
of 'Hedwig's Theme' and especially 'Something Wicked This Way 
Comes.' Any ideas? Thanks!

~Deborah




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 03:54:35 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 03:54:35 -0000
Subject: startup sounds, etc.
Message-ID: <c7cctr+t767@eGroups.com>

Hi, 

Has anyone found a site to download startup sounds? I've seen places 
with a few quote from the movies, but I'm looking more for snippets 
of 'Hedwig's Theme' and especially 'Something Wicked This Way 
Comes.' Any ideas? Thanks!

~Deborah




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Thu May  6 04:37:22 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 21:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Ron's lines
In-Reply-To: <c7cco0+ebg3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040506043722.4702.qmail@web80302.mail.yahoo.com>

Hee, and too right, Deborah!  If that were the case, Carrot Top and Yahoo Serious would be treated as Barrymores.  Tom Cruise could also benefit from the concept (as his expressions range between setting one and setting two, pained expression and sh** eating grin).
 
I should point out that I *adore* Daniel, Rupert and Emma.  I never warmed to the Harry Potter books although I tried to read one before seeing the movies.  (In general, I dislike dungeon, dragon, sword, sorceror stuff; hate Lord of the Rings, Dune, and that ilk.)  Honestly it was those young actors who warmed me to Harry Potter, and I have to say Rupert in particular.  He was so adorable in the first movie.  My 19-year-old daughter adores him, and her comment is that he's gone from "I'm sh**ing my pants" to [squaring her shoulders to suggest Rupert's newly manly physique] "I'm sh**ing my pants."  Such a waste of a very talented kid.  Hopefully we will see more dimension in GOF, when he's called upon to be extremely angry at Harry for a time.
 
Gretchen

Scully931 <scully931 at yahoo.com> wrote:
"Making faces 
does not a great actor make." 

~Deborah

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From patientx3 at aol.com  Thu May  6 05:04:36 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:04:36 EDT
Subject: PoA Trading Cards.
Message-ID: <19c.23bd3207.2dcb2164@aol.com>

Hot Topic is selling packs of trading cards featuring pictures and some 
snippits of dialogue from the movie. The Leaky Cauldron [ 
http://the-leaky-cauldron.org ] has screen caps of A LOT of them, including *several* from the 
Shrieking Shack, one of which is a picture of Snape and Siriuis (which gave me a HUGE 
sigh of relief, I was worried that for some reason that wouldn't end up in the 
movie--now I can't wait to see Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman in the same scene 
together (o; ).


-Rebecca (who had to go to *two* Hot Topic's today to buy the cards since 
heaven forbid the one by my house carry the cards)


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Thu May  6 06:41:01 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 06:41:01 -0000
Subject: PoA Trading Cards.
In-Reply-To: <19c.23bd3207.2dcb2164@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7cmlt+aca0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Hot Topic is selling packs of trading cards featuring pictures and 
some 
> snippits of dialogue from the movie. 

What Hot Topic would that be now? (Not the one with the T-shirts, 
right?) Is it available online?

Sophia




From patientx3 at aol.com  Thu May  6 06:48:43 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 02:48:43 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Trading Cards.
Message-ID: <12e.40d07f98.2dcb39cb@aol.com>

Its the same Hot Topic with the shirts and all that, I checked their website 
and the cards don't seem to be available there yet. Most of them are already 
online (the real cards are nicer of course, but you don't get ALL of them in 
one tin, only 32 of the total 90, at least the tins are only 9.95).


-Rebecca


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu May  6 12:34:37 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:34:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
Message-ID: <1d2.20459a28.2dcb8add@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/6/2004 5:57:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Its the same Hot Topic with the shirts and all that, I checked their website 
and the cards don't seem to be available there yet. Most of them are already 
online (the real cards are nicer of course, but you don't get ALL of them in 
one tin, only 32 of the total 90, at least the tins are only 9.95).


-Rebecca
Are these available in the US?  I followed a link on (I think it was) 
Mugglenet yesterday and saw them (the new scene of Harry protecting Hermione is 
great!  I can't WAIT to see this film!!).  They were available for 14.99 pounds 
(dunno how to make my email show the "pounds" sign).  I couldn't find them 
anywhere else.  So do I have to buy them across the pond or what?  Thanks!

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Thu May  6 15:17:58 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:17:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Trading Cards.
In-Reply-To: <c7cmlt+aca0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040506151758.75560.qmail@web80314.mail.yahoo.com>

I saw a collector's tin with trading cards at a local
Hot Topic (yes, the one with the T-shirts, at Laguna
Hills Mall in Southern California) over the weekend. I
refrained from buying it, because good God, I am 43
years old and you have to draw the line *somewhere*.

Gretchen

--- sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:

What Hot Topic would that be now? (Not the one with
the T-shirts, 
right?) Is it available online?

Sophia

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From cherlouize at aol.com  Wed May  5 19:08:13 2004
From: cherlouize at aol.com (cherlouize at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 15:08:13 EDT
Subject: Link to CoS movie script?
Message-ID: <b8.575da235.2dca959d@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/5/2004 5:40:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> Someone on the Leaky boards posted a link to the Chamber of 
> Secrets script


Greetings,
Delurking here to ask if perhaps someone could post the link to that script.  
I'd love to look it over!  Thanks a zillion.
Cher
**runs with scissors





From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Thu May  6 20:32:59 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 20:32:59 -0000
Subject: Link to CoS movie script?
In-Reply-To: <b8.575da235.2dca959d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7e7dr+9b93@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, cherlouize at a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 5/5/2004 5:40:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> > Someone on the Leaky boards posted a link to the Chamber of 
> > Secrets script
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Delurking here to ask if perhaps someone could post the link to 
that script.  
> I'd love to look it over!  Thanks a zillion.
> Cher
> **runs with scissors

Thanks for asking Cher. I just spent a good portion of my lunchtime 
hunting for that and I could not find it. So I too would love to have 
the link. PLEASE!!! Thank you.

Theresa




From jools31 at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May  7 00:14:31 2004
From: jools31 at yahoo.co.uk (Julian Smith)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 00:14:31 -0000
Subject: Link to CoS movie script?
In-Reply-To: <c7e7dr+9b93@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7ekd7+mo34@eGroups.com>

Here is the link to the draft script of CoS .  It's very different.


http://www.allmoviescripts.com/movie-scripts/493


Julian







From patientx3 at aol.com  Fri May  7 00:41:56 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:41:56 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Link to CoS movie script?
Message-ID: <13.2bb88345.2dcc3554@aol.com>

Sorry, I should have posted a link to the script when I mentioned it.
http://www.allmoviescripts.com/movie-scripts/493
(the link is on the page, its a .pdf file, so you need an acrobat reader to 
open it).


-Rebecca


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From illyana at mindspring.com  Fri May  7 00:31:57 2004
From: illyana at mindspring.com (illyana delorean)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 17:31:57 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <1d2.20459a28.2dcb8add@aol.com>
References: <1d2.20459a28.2dcb8add@aol.com>
Message-ID: <F2ACB381-9FBD-11D8-82F6-000A95CE326E@mindspring.com>


On May 6, 2004, at 5:34 AM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:
> Are these available in the US?  I followed a link on (I think it was)
> Mugglenet yesterday and saw them (the new scene of Harry protecting 
> Hermione is
> great!  I can't WAIT to see this film!!).  They were available for 
> 14.99 pounds
> (dunno how to make my email show the "pounds" sign).  I couldn't find 
> them
> anywhere else.  So do I have to buy them across the pond or what?  
> Thanks!

You can get them at the HP Wizard Store:  http://www.hpwizardstore.com/ 
- it says something about "pre-orders" right above the cards on their 
home page, but I don't know if that pertains to the cards or not. You 
might want to email them first.

I have ordered from them before, and they are very nice and quick to 
ship.

illyana

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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May  7 01:33:03 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:33:03 -0500
Subject: POA on NBC
Message-ID: <003301c433d3$3dbcdcc0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Just thought I'd share with the list that I just saw the first network trailer of PoA.  
They showed a small one during the series finale of Friends.  My son and I can't wait!

Kimberly
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From patientx3 at aol.com  Fri May  7 06:04:31 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 02:04:31 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA on NBC
Message-ID: <1d1.20448555.2dcc80ef@aol.com>

I saw that one too! Unfortunately I was watching it with four other people 
and the TV remained muted during it (I though diving across the room in a panic 
to unmute it would be a little consipicuous). Didn't look like any new 
footage, but it was awesome seeing it on a bigger screen than my computer (o;


-Rebecca


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri May  7 15:15:18 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:15:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
Message-ID: <1ac.23dfcaec.2dcd0206@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:26:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I saw a collector's tin with trading cards at a local
Hot Topic (yes, the one with the T-shirts, at Laguna
Hills Mall in Southern California) over the weekend. I
refrained from buying it, because good God, I am 43
years old and you have to draw the line *somewhere*.

Gretchen


Why??  LOL!  I'm 54 and already have the PoA poster book!  I called the Hot 
Topic that's here in our area and they don't have it.  They said for me to 
check back in a week.  All the fun stuff arrives on both coasts long before it 
hits the Midwest, daggone it!   I did FINALLY see a PoA trailer last night 
someplace other than my computer!  It was on TV, but it was slightly different than 
the ones I've seen online.  It started with Snape and the windows slamming 
shut, ended with the maid at the door, but there were a few things "different" in 
the middle.  Sure wish we'd been Tivo'ing whatever show that was -- it was on 
around 9:30, I think we were watching the "Friends" final show then.  I 
whooped and bopped my poor hubby on the arm and hollered, "HARRY POTTER"!  Yeah, 
I've got it baaaaaad.  heehee


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Fri May  7 15:25:55 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <1ac.23dfcaec.2dcd0206@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040507152555.31987.qmail@web80310.mail.yahoo.com>

Hee!  I already have a POA poster I bought off eBay,
and we are taking it to be professionally framed this
weekend, at probably great cost.  My husband, who is
very patient but has not caught the Harry bug like I
have, just rolls his eyes at this point.

We saw the POA preview during the "Friends" finale
last night -- they have also been showing it on
Nickelodeon.  Lucky for me I have small kids and an
excuse to watch that stuff.  Every time it comes on,
my almost 3-year-old says "We're going to see that
movie.  It has this guy (pointing to our Dementor
action figure).  He scares Harry."

Gretchen

--- artsylynda at aol.com wrote:

Why??  LOL!  I'm 54 and already have the PoA poster
book!  I called the Hot 
Topic that's here in our area and they don't have it. 
They said for me to 
check back in a week.  All the fun stuff arrives on
both coasts long before it 
hits the Midwest, daggone it!   I did FINALLY see a
PoA trailer last night 
someplace other than my computer!  It was on TV, but
it was slightly different than 
the ones I've seen online.  It started with Snape and
the windows slamming 
shut, ended with the maid at the door, but there were
a few things "different" in 
the middle.  Sure wish we'd been Tivo'ing whatever
show that was -- it was on 
around 9:30, I think we were watching the "Friends"
final show then.  I 
whooped and bopped my poor hubby on the arm and
hollered, "HARRY POTTER"!  Yeah, 
I've got it baaaaaad.  heehee


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Fri May  7 17:22:07 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:22:07 -0000
Subject: PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <20040507152555.31987.qmail@web80310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7ggjv+adjo@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Gretchen Crumpacker 
<gcrumpac at p...> wrote:
> Hee!  I already have a POA poster I bought off eBay,
> and we are taking it to be professionally framed this
> weekend, at probably great cost.  > 
> Gretchen
> Why??  LOL!  I'm 54 and already have the PoA poster
> book!  > 
> Lynda 


Gretchen--way to go on getting those cards! And Lynda, I'm with you: 
I've got it baaaaaaad, too. I'm 37 and just ordered the international 
poster online, which is going up on my wall!!! I already have a frame 
for it (which currently holds the CoS international poster). Although 
I assume most posters on here are adults like me, it's still as 
though it's not quite koscher (?) to be an adult Potter fan. Well,can 
I just say--I don't care: I LOVE Harry (all the rest), and there's 
nothing to be done about it, should I want to, which I don't.

Sophia




From clshannon at aol.com  Fri May  7 18:28:42 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:28:42 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
Message-ID: <d6.9dffc5e.2dcd2f5a@aol.com>

I spoke to someone at the WB store yesterday since I was having trouble 
ordering something online and they were kind enough to call me so that I could give 
the order that way. Anyway, I asked the guy about the trading cards and he 
said they would have them on the WB shop online by next week AND he said they 
were going to offer the tin with 'all' of the cards. I think I'll wait for that 
since Hot Topic is selling the tin with only 8 packs of cards in it <g>
And yes, I am old enough to...ahem...well, let's just say that I haven't 
bought trading cards of any kind for many years, lol!
But these cards look wonderful, so I guess I will give in ;-)
Cindy


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Fri May  7 20:08:49 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:08:49 -0700
Subject: trading cards and collectables
References: <c7ggjv+adjo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c4346f$1c98b2c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>


Sophia Said:
Gretchen--way to go on getting those cards! And Lynda, I'm with you: 
I've got it baaaaaaad, too. I'm 37 and just ordered the international 
poster online, which is going up on my wall!!! I already have a frame 
for it (which currently holds the CoS international poster). Although 
I assume most posters on here are adults like me, it's still as 
though it's not quite koscher (?) to be an adult Potter fan. Well,can 
I just say--I don't care: I LOVE Harry (all the rest), and there's 
nothing to be done about it, should I want to, which I don't.

Now me:
Where did you find the internationl poster to order?  I am always looking for good HP colectables but unfortunatly I have been dissapointed with much of the merchandising that has been done.  It seems to be all aimed at the juvinal market.  The figures are a perfect example.  The quality reminds me of original Star Wars toys.  They are very simple and look next to nothing like the actors.  There are so many companies making excellent figures now that look just like the actors (Mc Farlane, MooreAction, etc.) It is too bad they have not come out with a line for adults.

Heather


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Fri May  7 20:13:01 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <00a601c4346f$1c98b2c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20040507201301.47444.qmail@web80314.mail.yahoo.com>

Have you seen the new "deluxe" POA figures?  I think
they are much better quality and do look like the
actors.  Quiddich Harry, especially, I think really
looks like Dan Radcliffe and has such a nice happy
expression on his face.

Gretchen

--- Heather Maffioli <HMaffioli at cox.net> wrote:
The figures are a perfect example.  The quality
reminds me of original Star Wars toys.  They are very
simple and look next to nothing like the actors. 
There are so many companies making excellent figures
now that look just like the actors (Mc Farlane,
MooreAction, etc.) It is too bad they have not come
out with a line for adults.

Heather

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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Fri May  7 22:12:58 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 22:12:58 -0000
Subject: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <00a601c4346f$1c98b2c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <c7h1la+b3ve@eGroups.com>

 "Heather Maffioli"  wrote:
> Where did you find the internationl poster to order? 

Ever since they international poster showed up on the net, I 've been 
checking some poster sites on a regular basis, hoping it would turn 
up. Finally, today I found it on http://art.com  Do a search for 
Harry Potter. It's on the first page that shows up. Enjoy! (so which 
one of the int. posters are you getting? I ordered the one with the 
trio underneath the "staircase-as-archway." I love the clever little 
details and the striking composition.

Sophia
  





From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Fri May  7 22:19:50 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <c7h1la+b3ve@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040507221950.27590.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>

Oooh, that's a nice one!  I have the "Something Wicked
This Way Comes" POA poster, which art.com also has.

Gretchen

--- sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:

Ever since they international poster showed up on the
net, I 've been 
checking some poster sites on a regular basis, hoping
it would turn 
up. Finally, today I found it on http://art.com  Do a
search for 
Harry Potter.

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From betsymarie123 at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 12:31:26 2004
From: betsymarie123 at yahoo.com (Betsy Cortes)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 05:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA on NBC
In-Reply-To: <003301c433d3$3dbcdcc0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <20040507123126.85052.qmail@web60208.mail.yahoo.com>

I saw it too!!!! I just can't wait for PoA!!!! 
 
Off topic, I'm gonna miss Friends.
 
Betsy


Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:


Just thought I'd share with the list that I just saw the first network trailer of PoA.  
They showed a small one during the series finale of Friends.  My son and I can't wait!

Kimberly
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From kailincj at msn.com  Fri May  7 17:50:16 2004
From: kailincj at msn.com (Gwen)
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:50:16 -0000
Subject: PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <20040507152555.31987.qmail@web80310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7gi8o+pot7@eGroups.com>

Thank God, Lynda!  I'm 52 and thought I was the oldest fan in the 
world.  When my 14 year old son tried to take down the HRH poster in 
his room, I threatened to put it up in my own.  My husband just 
looked at me...

Kailin (cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Gretchen Crumpacker 
<gcrumpac at p...> wrote:
> Hee!  I already have a POA poster I bought off eBay,
> and we are taking it to be professionally framed this
> weekend, at probably great cost.  My husband, who is
> very patient but has not caught the Harry bug like I
> have, just rolls his eyes at this point.
> 
> We saw the POA preview during the "Friends" finale
> last night -- they have also been showing it on
> Nickelodeon.  Lucky for me I have small kids and an
> excuse to watch that stuff.  Every time it comes on,
> my almost 3-year-old says "We're going to see that
> movie.  It has this guy (pointing to our Dementor
> action figure).  He scares Harry."
> 
> Gretchen
> 
> --- artsylynda at a... wrote:
> 
> Why??  LOL!  I'm 54 and already have the PoA poster
> book!  I called the Hot 
> Topic that's here in our area and they don't have it. 
> They said for me to 
> check back in a week.  All the fun stuff arrives on
> both coasts long before it 
> hits the Midwest, daggone it!   I did FINALLY see a
> PoA trailer last night 
> someplace other than my computer!  It was on TV, but
> it was slightly different than 
> the ones I've seen online.  It started with Snape and
> the windows slamming 
> shut, ended with the maid at the door, but there were
> a few things "different" in 
> the middle.  Sure wish we'd been Tivo'ing whatever
> show that was -- it was on 
> around 9:30, I think we were watching the "Friends"
> final show then.  I 
> whooped and bopped my poor hubby on the arm and
> hollered, "HARRY POTTER"!  Yeah, 
> I've got it baaaaaad.  heehee
> 
> 
> Lynda 
> * * *
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> 
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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sat May  8 02:08:55 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <c7gi8o+pot7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040508020855.55664.qmail@web80313.mail.yahoo.com>

Hee!  You should hear my 19-year-old daughter (she's still in that stage where everything her mother does is nerdy, embarrassing and just plain stupid).  "My mother is such a freak, she's obsessed with Harry Potter!"  In my opinion, there are far worse obsessions.
 
Gretchen

Gwen <kailincj at msn.com> wrote:
Thank God, Lynda!  I'm 52 and thought I was the oldest fan in the 
world.

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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May  8 03:34:10 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 22:34:10 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trading cards and collectables
References: <20040507201301.47444.qmail@web80314.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006201c434ad$539e5b10$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



I've seen them at Target, and I think Harry looks much older.
He just looks more like a 17 year old than a 13 year old to me.
I did buy some of the mini action figures.  I'd like to get the whole
set.  I have them on my desk... I'm such a kid.  :-)

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gretchen Crumpacker 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] trading cards and collectables


  Have you seen the new "deluxe" POA figures?  I think
  they are much better quality and do look like the
  actors.  Quiddich Harry, especially, I think really
  looks like Dan Radcliffe and has such a nice happy
  expression on his face.

  Gretchen

  --- Heather Maffioli <HMaffioli at cox.net> wrote:
  The figures are a perfect example.  The quality
  reminds me of original Star Wars toys.  They are very
  simple and look next to nothing like the actors. 
  There are so many companies making excellent figures
  now that look just like the actors (Mc Farlane,
  MooreAction, etc.) It is too bad they have not come
  out with a line for adults.

  Heather

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From patientx3 at aol.com  Sat May  8 04:33:53 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 00:33:53 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trading cards and collectables
Message-ID: <75.28ed4ea8.2dcdbd31@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/7/2004 8:36:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
twinslove at mindspring.com writes:

>>I did buy some of the mini action figures.  I'd like to get the whole
set.  I have them on my desk... I'm such a kid.  :-)<<

I bought some of the mini action figures too (just the set with Sirius 
though), I would like to get one of the lego sets too. Of course I love action 
figures, I just wish more non-kiddy movies had them.

-Rebecca (who got a Go-Go figure from Kill Bill the other day too)


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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  8 07:01:03 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 07:01:03 -0000
Subject: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <75.28ed4ea8.2dcdbd31@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7i0jf+ufar@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:

> I bought some of the mini action figures too (just the set with Sirius 
> though), I would like to get one of the lego sets too. Of course I
love action 
> figures, I just wish more non-kiddy movies had them.
> 
> -Rebecca (who got a Go-Go figure from Kill Bill the other day too)
> 
> 
imamommy:

Hey, I bought one of the Zonko's joke wands, and I've been driving my
hubby nuts by following him around, jinxing him with silly sounds. 
Fun for me and the kids!




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  8 07:12:46 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 07:12:46 -0000
Subject: malkovich as voldemort
In-Reply-To: <BCB939D8.828%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c7i19e+6liu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at v...>
wrote:
> Malkovitch is the absolute best! I'm so psyched! Who is playing him
in POA?
> 
> bewitchedbyhp

imamommy:

Ummm, Voldemort doesn't appear in PoA.  He's wasting away in Albania,
I think.




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sat May  8 08:12:53 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 08:12:53 -0000
Subject: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <006201c434ad$539e5b10$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c7i4q5+9soj@eGroups.com>

Gretchen Crumpacker 
>   Have you seen the new "deluxe" POA figures?  I think
>   they are much better quality and do look like the
>   actors.  Quiddich Harry, especially, I think really
>   looks like Dan Radcliffe and has such a nice happy
>   expression on his face.
> 
>   Gretchen
> 
 ooh, really? Do you happen to know if it?s available to buy online? 
Who makes them? (I don't think there's a Target here in Sweden, and 
HP merchandise is hard come by here...)

Sophia




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May  8 16:32:09 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:32:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trading cards and collectables
References: <c7i0jf+ufar@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c4351a$026c72a0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  imamommy:

  Hey, I bought one of the Zonko's joke wands, and I've been driving my
  hubby nuts by following him around, jinxing him with silly sounds. 
  Fun for me and the kids!>>
  I bought my son one of those! He loves it!  Took it for show-n-tell.
  Every time he watches the movies, he brings out his wand, cloak, & broom
  to act out the scenes.  So cute!!!

  Kimberly



   



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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat May  8 20:23:18 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:23:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] trading cards and collectibles
Message-ID: <84.28d42f92.2dce9bb6@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/8/2004 5:46:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Have you seen the new "deluxe" POA figures?  I think
they are much better quality and do look like the
actors.  Quiddich Harry, especially, I think really
looks like Dan Radcliffe and has such a nice happy
expression on his face.

Gretchen

I'm a sculptor myself, and I waited eagerly to see how the figures were going 
to be done.  I was disappointed in them, but I did buy the "Expecto Patronum" 
Harry -- it has Dan Radcliffe's profile (very well done, actually), even if 
it does make him crosseyed (bad painting, and they made his eyes too small.  
*sigh*).  The front of his face doesn't look as much like Dan, but overall, it's 
close enough, and daggone it, I just wanted one, and it was the best one I 
could find.  I DO wish somebody would come out with EXCELLENT ones, but still in 
an affordable price range (where I wouldn't feel stupid for paying that much 
for a toy!).  I had to laugh at the "collectible limited edition figurines" on 
the HP Wizard store site (thanks to whoever provided the line!).  They're 
really not that interesting and certainly not well-done sculptures (although the 
troll one is interesting).  And why they do the clocks, etc., with the book 
illustration art instead of pictures of the actors is beyond me.  If they had a 
wall clock with Dan on it as Harry, I'd buy it for my studio!  But nope, it's 
the painting instead.  *sigh*  And I really do need a new clock in there. . . 
.  *snurf!*

Lynda 
* * *
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat May  8 20:27:12 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:27:12 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
Message-ID: <81.b4c9507.2dce9ca0@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/8/2004 5:46:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Thank God, Lynda!  I'm 52 and thought I was the oldest fan in the 
world.  When my 14 year old son tried to take down the HRH poster in 
his room, I threatened to put it up in my own.  My husband just 
looked at me...

Kailin (cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)

I'm officially the oldest 13 year old you ever saw. . .heehee.  I'm still 
horse crazy (just got home from showing my horse today -- and yes, we did very 
well!), still love the funny papers, and have every HP book in both hardcover 
(the kids edition because I like the covers better) and on CD or tape, as well 
as Harry's school books, and now the PoA poster book and soon the Hedwig tin of 
trading cards, I hope!  I check the Dan fan sites daily to see what's up with 
him and PoA both -- sometimes they have articles before Leaky does.  I enjoy 
Rupert's site too, but it doesn't get updated as frequently as the Dan sites 
do.  Anyway. . .becoming "mature" is HIGHLY overrated!!  heehee

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat May  8 20:30:11 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:30:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
Message-ID: <1a7.2359de49.2dce9d53@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/8/2004 5:46:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Hee!  You should hear my 19-year-old daughter (she's still in that stage 
where everything her mother does is nerdy, embarrassing and just plain stupid).  
"My mother is such a freak, she's obsessed with Harry Potter!"  In my opinion, 
there are far worse obsessions.

Gretchen

My kids thought I was weird with my Starman obsession (they were young 
teenagers when I started that craze), but they both got to talk to movie stars on 
the phone, and meet some TV actors in person as a result of my obsession, so 
they thought that was kinda cool.  I'm kind of glad they're in their mid and late 
20's now and not around to see how insane I am over Harry -- I've tried hard 
not to get obsessed by anything since Starman, and I resisted Harry for a long 
time after I heard about him, but oh well!  I have every intention of seeing 
PoA at least 5 times in the theaters, even if I have to go by myself (which I 
probably will for most of those).  Too bad kids will be out of school then so 
every show will be inundated by them.  But whatever -- June 4 will be here 
soon! YAY!

Lynda Sappington
Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast 
porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold 
and sterling silver.


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May  8 20:46:54 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:46:54 -0500
Subject: PoA Poster Book
References: <81.b4c9507.2dce9ca0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004801c4353d$990a6910$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Lynda, curious as to where you found the PoA poster book?  I have not seen that yet, but
have heard of it.

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  I'm officially the oldest 13 year old you ever saw. . .heehee.  I'm still 
  horse crazy (just got home from showing my horse today -- and yes, we did very 
  well!), still love the funny papers, and have every HP book in both hardcover 
  (the kids edition because I like the covers better) and on CD or tape, as well 
  as Harry's school books, and now the PoA poster book and soon the Hedwig tin of 
  trading cards, I hope!  I check the Dan fan sites daily to see what's up with 
  him and PoA both -- sometimes they have articles before Leaky does.  I enjoy 
  Rupert's site too, but it doesn't get updated as frequently as the Dan sites 
  do.  Anyway. . .becoming "mature" is HIGHLY overrated!!  heehee

  Lynda 


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From alexpie at aol.com  Sat May  8 21:42:27 2004
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:42:27 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 895
Message-ID: <74.3bf57d07.2dceae43@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/8/04 4:46:28 AM Central Daylight Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> Re: trading cards and collectibles

Must chime in on this one!  I'm forty-seven, and will be wearing my 62242, 
S.P.E.W., and 9 3/4 buttons (badges to you across the Atlantic) to the first 
showing of PoA in New York.  Also counting the minutes until tomorrow night, and 
the "new" material. (Does anyone know if it is, in fact, as yet unseen, or 
what all us fanatics already have on the DVD?)
  Also saw the PoA commercial during Friends (which, parenthetically, I will 
miss very much).  I was upset that the "Expecto Patronum!" scene was excised; 
it always gives me chills!
Ba




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From alexpie at aol.com  Sat May  8 21:42:54 2004
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:42:54 EDT
Subject: Oops
Message-ID: <1ea.1ffd6036.2dceae5e@aol.com>

Sorry about that subject line; I cut and paste incorrectly!
Ba


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From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Sat May  8 22:23:57 2004
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <1a7.2359de49.2dce9d53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040508222357.79821.qmail@web42102.mail.yahoo.com>



artsylynda at aol.com wrote:
I have every intention of seeing PoA at least 5 times in the theaters, even if I have to go by myself (which I 
probably will for most of those).  Too bad kids will be out of school then so every show will be inundated by them.  But whatever -- June 4 will be here soon! YAY!



Fortunately, I have a group of middle-aged friends who are nearly as nutty for the books and movies as I am, although I outrank them in obsession.  I think the youngest of our set is late 20's, and my friend Beth and I are 50, so we run the gamut.  In fact, we're getting together tomorrow night to watch "Sorcerer's Stone" at my house, complete with champagne, of course!

Last time, we primed ourselves for "Chamber of Secrets" by getting together to watch the DVD of "Sorcerer's Stone."  It remains to be seen if we have a marathon HP DVD party in preparation for "Prisoner of Azkaban."

akh


		
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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sat May  8 22:41:08 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Poster Book
In-Reply-To: <004801c4353d$990a6910$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <20040508224108.58527.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>

I stumbled on one today at Toys R Us and snapped it up.  They only had two left, so I suspect they are selling out quickly.
 
Gretchen

Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:


Lynda, curious as to where you found the PoA poster book?  I have not seen that yet, but
have heard of it.

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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sat May  8 22:43:57 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <c7i4q5+9soj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040508224357.28737.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>

If I'm not mistaken, Amazon has some of them.  I'm not sure if they ship worldwide, but there's Amazon UK too, which is closer to your neck of the woods.
 
Gretchen

sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:
ooh, really? Do you happen to know if it?s available to buy online? 
Who makes them? (I don't think there's a Target here in Sweden, and 
HP merchandise is hard come by here...)

Sophia



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From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 00:22:42 2004
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (s_ings at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 00:22:42 -0000
Subject: Convention Alley goes to the ballgame!
Message-ID: <c7jtki+8evt@eGroups.com>

Last year the Ottawa Lynx Triple A baseball team held a Harry Potter 
day before the release of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. 
Given the success of that event, they will be holding another Harry 
Potter day on May 30, 2004, just before the release of the Prisoner 
of Azkaban movie.

Here's where you come in. They've asked Convention Alley to help them 
find some people to take part in this event. HP fans, ideally fans 
willing to dress up and help them have fun. There will be games and 
prizes, though those will most likely be geared toward the children 
in the stands.

If you're interested in joining some of the Convention Alley 
volunteers at the Lynx Stadium in Ottawa for the afternoon, we'll 
happily welcome you on board. Those interested in donning robes or 
hats, waving wands or just coming to enjoy the ballgame are all 
welcome to participate. Your children and friends included!

Unfortunately, we haven't been able to conjure up free tickets. 
Should enough people be interested (20 or more), we will receive 
discounted tickets. Regular ticket prices range from $7.00 - $11.00. 
Discounted tickets range from $5.50 - $8.50.

Interested parties should contact Amanda at bluerain22 at yahoo.com . 
Tickets will be purchased 2 weeks prior to the event, so sign up now!

Sheryll Townsend
Convention Alley Planning Committee 




From joj at rochester.rr.com  Sun May  9 01:09:22 2004
From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 21:09:22 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 895
References: <74.3bf57d07.2dceae43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002301c43562$43b97030$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w>


From: <alexpie at aol.com>
 (Does anyone know if it is, in fact, as yet unseen, or
> what all us fanatics already have on the DVD?)


I believe it's the 10 minutes from the DVD and an additional 10 minutes
that's never been seen anywhere before.  I can't wait!

Joj





From easytoread at hotmail.com  Sat May  8 00:50:35 2004
From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 00:50:35 -0000
Subject: PoA trading cards
In-Reply-To: <c7gi8o+pot7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7hasr+kiao@eGroups.com>

I'm 41. When I found a Sorcerer's Stone poster abandoned under my 10-
year-old's bed, I absconded with it. It's on my wall now...for safe 
keeping. :D

Cinderz

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Gwen" <kailincj at m...> wrote:
> Thank God, Lynda!  I'm 52 and thought I was the oldest fan in the 
> world.  When my 14 year old son tried to take down the HRH poster 
in 
> his room, I threatened to put it up in my own.  My husband just 
> looked at me...
> 
> Kailin (cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)






From McGregorMax at ec.rr.com  Sat May  8 04:32:49 2004
From: McGregorMax at ec.rr.com (mcmaxslb)
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 04:32:49 -0000
Subject: A question about the cast.
Message-ID: <c7hnth+q1o5@eGroups.com>

Hello all. I just joined and would like to ask this question. ABC 
network showing SS and Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson & Rupert Grint 
are hosting. Also they will have clips of PoA. Now on the HP Lexicon 
I found a National Geographic for Kids article that states that the 
Trio, and I guess all the other child actors, are only signed for the 
first three films and TPTB are waiting to see if they are too old for 
#4.

  Now this is something that I have always thought about in the fact 
that the books happen one year the other(not the writing the 
timeline)  but the movies take more that a year to make that the 
current cast would out grow their roles, something that is going to 
be obvious this Sunday. The question is has anyone heard if the 
current crew will do GoF or have TPTB begun to recast? 





From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sun May  9 03:18:28 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 20:18:28 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question about the cast.
References: <c7hnth+q1o5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00f301c43574$4ce26380$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

mcmaxslb wrote:

<The question is has anyone heard if the
current crew will do GoF or have TPTB begun
to recast? >

As of yet they're doing GoF.  And considering
I've seen 20-30 year olds do teens I really
don't see any problem unless they visibly age
beyond their role.  Tom Felton is already 16
and playing thirteen year old Draco without
too much problem so I don't think it'll be a
big hassle to continue doing the characters
for the full length of the film run.  We're
almost past the age where physical changes
would matter much visibly, and since most
movie goers are used to suspending disbelief
I think that we can happily pretend for the
next four movies.

I really don't think they'll re-cast unless
one of the actors decides to move on or
something happens (such as having to re-cast
Dumbledore).  After all the work they went
through to cast these roles perfectly, I
really doubt they'd want to take back on that
hassle just for something such as age.

But then again I'm working from an American
entertainment industry point of view and they
could be handling things differently on the
other side.

Saitaina
****
Inside my mind that tiny little voice that
tells me when I'm being stupid is flipping
right out. You do not pin the princess of all
of Hyrule up against a wall and threaten her.

Unfortunately I have this awful habit of
ignoring that little voice . . .

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun May  9 03:44:20 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 21:44:20 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question about the cast.
In-Reply-To: <c7hnth+q1o5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c43577$eaad41e0$0400a8c0@pensive>

I thought the trio was signed on for Goblet of Fire.  Older actors have
often played younger characters.  Judy Garland was 14, when she started
filming Wizard of Oz, and the character of Dorothy was supposed to be about
ten.  The actress who starred in the movie GiGi was 27, playing a girl of 16
or 18, I think.  Of course, there's no guarantee, that this group of actors
will want to stay on for the duration of all seven films.  But I think they
can convincingly play their roles for a while yet.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: mcmaxslb [mailto:McGregorMax at ec.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 10:33 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question about the cast.


Hello all. I just joined and would like to ask this question. ABC 
network showing SS and Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson & Rupert Grint 
are hosting. Also they will have clips of PoA. Now on the HP Lexicon 
I found a National Geographic for Kids article that states that the 
Trio, and I guess all the other child actors, are only signed for the 
first three films and TPTB are waiting to see if they are too old for 
#4.

  Now this is something that I have always thought about in the fact 
that the books happen one year the other(not the writing the 
timeline)  but the movies take more that a year to make that the 
current cast would out grow their roles, something that is going to 
be obvious this Sunday. The question is has anyone heard if the 
current crew will do GoF or have TPTB begun to recast? 





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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sun May  9 04:10:58 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 21:10:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question about the cast.
In-Reply-To: <000c01c43577$eaad41e0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <20040509041058.99954.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm quite sure the trio is on for GOF, and I see no reason why they shouldn't see the series through.  Since each book represents a year, and the movies aren't *too* far behind that schedule, it will be okay -- it's true that actors often portray people much younger.  Also, I think the public would completely resist a change in actors.  It's one thing to swap Richard Harris for Michael Gambon, but casting a new Harry, Ron or Hermione?  Just wouldn't work.  It's not like we're talking about changing Darrens in Bewitched.  People are just way too attached to those kids.
 
Gretchen

Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:
I thought the trio was signed on for Goblet of Fire. 

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From clshannon at aol.com  Sun May  9 04:50:20 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 00:50:20 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A question about the cast.
Message-ID: <1c0.18c99022.2dcf128c@aol.com>

They are already filming GOF. There was an article in a Scottish newspaper 
about photography on location and Daniel was involved (and that was last month), 
so I don't think there's any question about the kids being in it ;-)
Cindy


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From manda at qx.net  Sun May  9 15:38:48 2004
From: manda at qx.net (Amanda Pressnell)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 08:38:48 -0700
Subject: Jason Isaacs's home videos
Message-ID: <409DEE18.25798.449189@localhost>

The AP has an article about Jason Isaacs's habit of taking a video camera to his movie shoots. Here's the HP-relevant part:

<< The only place he ran into problems was on the "Harry Potter" set. "That was the one place where you were not meant to have any cameras," he said. "That didn't stop 
me from shooting, but it did stop me from turning it over (for the DVD)." >>

Disappointing but not surprising, eh? Here's the link:

Actor's Videos Going on 'Peter Pan' DVD 
http://tinyurl.co.uk/sqcn


Manda
--
http://www.jenesaisoz.com



From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun May  9 14:01:54 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:01:54 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA poster book
Message-ID: <59.b5c1727.2dcf93d2@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 5:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

Lynda, curious as to where you found the PoA poster book?  I have not seen 
that yet, but
have heard of it.

Kimberly

I found it at a local bookstore (in Kettering OH) called "Books & Co." -- 
they have a huge HP section.  I imagine the big chain stores now have it in the 
kids' section (Barnes & Noble, Waldenbooks, etc.).  


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun May  9 14:04:04 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:04:04 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 896
Message-ID: <1eb.1fe982a7.2dcf9454@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 5:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I'm forty-seven, and will be wearing my 62242, 
S.P.E.W., and 9 3/4 buttons 
Okay, what's "62242"?  I'm lost.  The others I completely understand.

Yes, I was bothered they left out the "Expecto Patronum" scene in that ad 
during "Friends," but I am ESPECIALLY annoyed that we Americans get a 
"kid-friendly" ad while the French get a really cool, scary trailer!  WHY???  I LOVE the 
French trailer!!!  I'd love to see it on a bigger screen than the little 
RealPlayer one on my computer!

Lynda Sappington
Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast 
porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold 
and sterling silver.


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun May  9 14:10:39 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:10:39 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] a question about the cast
Message-ID: <127.4064a930.2dcf95df@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 5:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I'm quite sure the trio is on for GOF, and I see no reason why they shouldn't 
see the series through

I read somewhere recently that Dan has started scuba lessons for the third 
task in GoF, and that Dan and Rupert (at least) were already working on the 
film.  All three are signed.  Most of the other actors (the character parts, not 
the starring kids) have already said they'd go through the entire series.  I 
read yesterday (Leaky??) that they're talking about making the sets larger for 
GoF so the kids will look smaller, which I think is just silly.  I know 14 year 
old boys who went from being shrimps to over six feet tall in one summer (we 
bought a small horse from a boy who did this -- suddenly he was 6'2 -- he grew 
8 inches that summer, if I recall correctly! -- and too tall for the horse, 
who we bought for our then-8 year old son).  So it's beyond belief that they'd 
recast simply because of the kids' size.  If they lose the line Ron says about 
"a midget with glasses" there's no problem with Harry's size.  Fleur will 
still think him a "little boy" just because he's not shaving yet, probably (and 
if Dan IS shaving before GoF wraps, then they can always have him shave before 
each scene and put on more makeup to keep his "five o'clock shadow" from 
showing, LOL!)


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 17:16:10 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 17:16:10 -0000
Subject: So Who Will Be Watching ABC Tonight?
Message-ID: <c7lp0q+i8qb@eGroups.com>



  Isn't it amazing how ABC knows how to bring on a movie that so many 
people own on DVD yet will arrange their schedules to be sure and 
see?  I really look forward to the interviews with the kids and the 
first looks at POA.


  http://abc.go.com/movies/harrypotter.html
  

 

  Brian:-)




From clshannon at aol.com  Sun May  9 18:09:13 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:09:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA poster book
Message-ID: <fb.5648df3f.2dcfcdc9@aol.com>

I got the poster book on Amazon.com.
Amazon is pretty reliable and they usually have everything ;-)
Cindy


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From goalieracer at yahoo.com  Sun May  9 17:56:21 2004
From: goalieracer at yahoo.com (Barb)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] So Who Will Be Watching ABC Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <c7lp0q+i8qb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040509175621.72253.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com>

I don't how true it is...but I heard ABC has added
footage that is not available on the dvd....guess we
will find out tonight....at any rate I am anxiously
awaiting the clips from Azkaban!!!

--- Brian <flitwicksman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>   Isn't it amazing how ABC knows how to bring on a
> movie that so many 
> people own on DVD yet will arrange their schedules
> to be sure and 
> see?  I really look forward to the interviews with
> the kids and the 
> first looks at POA.
> 
> 
>   http://abc.go.com/movies/harrypotter.html
>   
> 
>  
> 
>   Brian:-)
> 
> 
> 
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From nostrebor at runbox.com  Sun May  9 18:47:46 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 14:47:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] So Who Will Be Watching ABC Tonight?
References: <c7lp0q+i8qb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003101c435f6$211fdde0$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>

Well, Since it's Mother's Day - and I'm a Mom - I want to watch ABC tonight
and aren't moms supposed to get what they want on Mother's Day LOL!
Jodi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian" <flitwicksman at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 1:16 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] So Who Will Be Watching ABC Tonight?


>
>
>   Isn't it amazing how ABC knows how to bring on a movie that so many
> people own on DVD yet will arrange their schedules to be sure and
> see?  I really look forward to the interviews with the kids and the
> first looks at POA.
>
>
>   http://abc.go.com/movies/harrypotter.html
>
>
>
>
>   Brian:-)
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From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Sun May  9 20:45:04 2004
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:45:04 +0100
Subject: PoA opening date in the UK
Message-ID: <v01540b00bcc4463120c1@[217.154.253.191]>

Our local cinemas have started selling tickets to PoA. The movie opens here
on May 31, which is a holiday, and that's the actual opening, not a
preview; I checked with two of our local chains and both will be running it
continuously from Monday 31st. Needless to state, we have our tickets
already.

And for whoever said that this will be shorter than the others; the cinema
confirmed it at 3 hours and 20 minutes.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From patientx3 at aol.com  Sun May  9 20:47:03 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:47:03 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 896 (PoA trailers)
Message-ID: <163.2f492b79.2dcff2c7@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 7:05:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
artsylynda at aol.com writes:

>>Yes, I was bothered they left out the "Expecto Patronum" scene in that ad 
during "Friends," but I am ESPECIALLY annoyed that we Americans get a 
"kid-friendly" ad while the French get a really cool, scary trailer!  WHY???  
I LOVE the French trailer!!!  I'd love to see it on a bigger screen than the 
little 
RealPlayer one on my computer!<<

I completely agree! Why is it that the American advertising isn't *nearly* as 
good as the British / International advertising. The other trailer (the one 
that started with Lupin on the train--with the 'he was right there, he was 
close enough to touch' line) wasn't American either. The second trailer we got 
here, while it showed a lot of good scenes, seemed almost thrown together and was 
obviously aimed more at children than adults. Its too bad too, because all 
the American ads end up online in high-resolution while the other ones are only 
whatever version ends up online.


-Rebecca


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From mkeller01 at alltel.net  Sun May  9 22:41:13 2004
From: mkeller01 at alltel.net (jksunflower2002)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 22:41:13 -0000
Subject: So Who Will Be Watching ABC Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <003101c435f6$211fdde0$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
Message-ID: <c7mc29+lklu@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jodi Robertson" 
<nostrebor at r...> wrote:
> Well, Since it's Mother's Day - and I'm a Mom - I want to watch 
ABC tonight
> and aren't moms supposed to get what they want on Mother's Day LOL!
> Jodi


Darn tootin'.  I'm tucking the kids (and hubbycakes) into bed, and 
then commandeering the tube.  Though the chocolates, flower, and  
poem composed by one of my sons comparing his love for me to a pear 
and a banana ("Because yellow's your favorite color!") were lovely, 
I must confess I am most looking forward to tonight's big event.  

Toad (who criticizes the movies freely, but still can't resist 
watching them repeatedly)





From dbrydon at pacific.net.au  Sun May  9 23:06:13 2004
From: dbrydon at pacific.net.au (hprocks70)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:06:13 -0000
Subject: POA Trading Cards
Message-ID: <c7mdh5+eckc@eGroups.com>

Hello all, just delurking to say what a cool bunch of people you 
are, Im also an 'older' fan, (34) and I love hp it is my obsession 
too... its so nice to know Im not alone!  Although I have to say 
that Im a little jealous, you have access to all the cool stuff, 
whereas down here in Australia we dont even have a WB store, and I 
havent even seen any of the toys in the stores, luckily and thank 
you again Diana, is recording the ABC special for me as I have no 
access to that either, thank god for ebay!...I'll stop grumbling 
now :)

Cant wait for POA, how many days now???  I know I will be dragging 
along every child I know (as mine are too young, but Im trying to 
educate them, they just love disney) just to see it at least 10 
times! yay! too much excitement, getting all giddy so its back to 
lurking.....

Cheers everyone
Deb




From nostrebor at runbox.com  Sun May  9 23:16:03 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:16:03 -0400
Subject: Holy Cricket - ABC
References: <c7mdh5+eckc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <030a01c4361b$9b1443f0$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>

Whaaa - I can't find a blank tape anywhere! Two scenes already that weren't
on the VHS or DVD.
Jodi




From nostrebor at runbox.com  Sun May  9 23:18:41 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:18:41 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC
References: <c7mdh5+eckc@eGroups.com> <030a01c4361b$9b1443f0$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
Message-ID: <032601c4361b$f926e830$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>

I should edit to say Marge with the eggs and the first one. And tell me if
I'm wrong - but isn't the music different also? Just hearing it when Hagrid
arrives at the island.
Jodi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jodi Robertson" <nostrebor at runbox.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC


> Whaaa - I can't find a blank tape anywhere! Two scenes already that
weren't
> on the VHS or DVD.
> Jodi




From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun May  9 23:09:58 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:09:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pump up the brightness filter! Re: [HPFGU-Movie] So Who Will Be 
     Watching ABC Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <c7mc29+lklu@eGroups.com>
References: <003101c435f6$211fdde0$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
    <c7mc29+lklu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <2967.4.12.232.24.1084144198.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

jksunflower2002 said:

> Toad (who criticizes the movies freely, but still can't resist
> watching them repeatedly)

I've seen HP:SS on both DVD and HBO/Cinemax and they both were clear. 
This time around ABC has lowered the brightness/contrast.

Dina


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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 00:43:03 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:43:03 -0000
Subject: Holy Cricket - ABC
In-Reply-To: <032601c4361b$f926e830$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
Message-ID: <c7mj6n+812p@eGroups.com>

Yes, what's with all the scenes we've never seen?! Did anyone know 
they were showing these? I heard a radio advirtisement today and all 
they said was, 'Scenes never seen on network television' so I 
figured they were the ones from the DVD. Argh! I agree, the music 
has caught my attention a few times. Not sure if it's different or 
just louder. 

Deborah

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jodi Robertson" 
<nostrebor at r...> wrote:
> I should edit to say Marge with the eggs and the first one. And 
tell me if
> I'm wrong - but isn't the music different also? Just hearing it 
when Hagrid
> arrives at the island.
> Jodi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jodi Robertson" <nostrebor at r...>
> To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:16 PM
> Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC
> 
> 
> > Whaaa - I can't find a blank tape anywhere! Two scenes already 
that
> weren't
> > on the VHS or DVD.
> > Jodi




From nostrebor at runbox.com  Mon May 10 01:16:01 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:16:01 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Holy Cricket - ABC
References: <c7mj6n+812p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <066d01c4362c$7c5e9210$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>

Here's my list of added scenes so far. I haven't kept track of the deleted
scenes.
1 - Dudley's school scene w/Aunt Marge cooking/dying Dudley's old school
uniform
2 - Marge and the eggs -- what was written on that note? I couldn't see it
3- Harry on subway with Hagrid
4 - Clearly Hermione knows
5 - Troll/Friends for life
Jodi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scully931" <scully931 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 8:43 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Holy Cricket - ABC


> Yes, what's with all the scenes we've never seen?! Did anyone know
> they were showing these? I heard a radio advirtisement today and all
> they said was, 'Scenes never seen on network television' so I
> figured they were the ones from the DVD. Argh! I agree, the music
> has caught my attention a few times. Not sure if it's different or
> just louder.
>
> Deborah
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jodi Robertson"
> <nostrebor at r...> wrote:
> > I should edit to say Marge with the eggs and the first one. And
> tell me if
> > I'm wrong - but isn't the music different also? Just hearing it
> when Hagrid
> > arrives at the island.
> > Jodi
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jodi Robertson" <nostrebor at r...>
> > To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:16 PM
> > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC
> >
> >
> > > Whaaa - I can't find a blank tape anywhere! Two scenes already
> that
> > weren't
> > > on the VHS or DVD.
> > > Jodi
>
>
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From afolcfkajl at aol.com  Mon May 10 01:19:11 2004
From: afolcfkajl at aol.com (afolcfkajl at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:19:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA opening date in the UK
Message-ID: <141.2912e828.2dd0328f@aol.com>


3 hrs and 20 mins. Do you mean 2 hrs and 20mins? 
Not that I would complain, more Potter the better. But I thought that it was 
about 2hrs and 15mins or so.



In a message dated 5/9/2004 4:26:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
nicholas at adelanta.co.uk writes:
Our local cinemas have started selling tickets to PoA. The movie opens here
on May 31, which is a holiday, and that's the actual opening, not a
preview; I checked with two of our local chains and both will be running it
continuously from Monday 31st. Needless to state, we have our tickets
already.

And for whoever said that this will be shorter than the others; the cinema
confirmed it at 3 hours and 20 minutes.

Cheers,
Nicholas


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 10 01:23:43 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 21:23:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC
In-Reply-To: <066d01c4362c$7c5e9210$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
References: <c7mj6n+812p@eGroups.com>
    <066d01c4362c$7c5e9210$eb5dc043@user7i1hr4si1m>
Message-ID: <3297.4.12.232.24.1084152223.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Jodi Robertson said:
> Here's my list of added scenes so far. I haven't kept track of the deleted
> scenes.
> 1 - Dudley's school scene w/Aunt Marge cooking/dying Dudley's old school
> uniform
> 2 - Marge and the eggs -- what was written on that note? I couldn't see it
> 3- Harry on subway with Hagrid
> 4 - Clearly Hermione knows
> 5 - Troll/Friends for life

All scenes on the DVD if you go through the 'adventure course'.  However,
I have this suspicion there's some added on seconds here and there.

The next 'deleted scene' should be Harry in the Great Hall, wearing a
Weasley sweater and thinking about his parents.  This should be set after
discovering the Mirror of Erised.

Off the top of my head, I can't remember all the deleted scenes on the
double DVD set.

Dina


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Mon May 10 02:25:15 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:25:15 -0000
Subject: ABC screencaps
Message-ID: <c7mp6b+vmm8@eGroups.com>

For all of you who, like me, do not live in the US and do not have 
ABC access, there are already a substantial amount of screencaps from 
the screencaps up at http://www.danradcliffe.com with the promise of 
more updates soon. There are afew shots form PoA that we haven't seen 
before (like Ron facing a boggart-spider), some behind-the-scenes 
shots as well as a number of adorable caps of the trio from the "chat-
seesion" we've seen a littl of in the online commercials for the 
special.

Sophia

To all of you who saw the special: Share! Share!




From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 10 02:35:37 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:35:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ABC screencaps
In-Reply-To: <c7mp6b+vmm8@eGroups.com>
References: <c7mp6b+vmm8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3348.4.12.232.24.1084156537.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

sophiamcl said:

> To all of you who saw the special: Share! Share!

It's currently showing the ~10 minute POA segment before the end of the
movie.  I'm sure others will probably have internet clips up.  I could do
it but others can do it faster.

Lots of good stuff.

Dina


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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 03:03:10 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:03:10 -0000
Subject: Anyone else miss it?
Message-ID: <c7mrde+jte4@eGroups.com>

Did anyone else think it was coming at the END of the movie? I 
turned it off for a while thinking it would come at the last ten 
minutes. Turned it back on during the hospital scene and the movie 
just ended! I feel so cheated!!!

Deborah




From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 10 03:05:59 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Repeats on TV again Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone else miss it?
In-Reply-To: <c7mrde+jte4@eGroups.com>
References: <c7mrde+jte4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3436.4.12.232.24.1084158359.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Scully931 said:
> Did anyone else think it was coming at the END of the movie? I

I thought so too.  However, I think ABC repeats this.  Check out
TVGuide.com for airtimes.

Dina


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From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 03:12:53 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:12:53 -0000
Subject: Repeats on TV again Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone else miss it?
In-Reply-To: <3436.4.12.232.24.1084158359.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>
Message-ID: <c7mrvl+bo8s@eGroups.com>


  The timing caught us by surprise too, but we were watching so we 
did not miss it.  

  Looks like POA is going to be the best HP movie yet!

  And I am so grateful that we live in the age of DVD.

  Brian:-)

  

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" <redina at s...> wrote:
> Scully931 said:
> > Did anyone else think it was coming at the END of the movie? I
> 
> I thought so too.  However, I think ABC repeats this.  Check out
> TVGuide.com for airtimes.
> 
> Dina
> 
> 
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> 
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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 03:25:45 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:25:45 -0000
Subject: Anyone who missed preview....
Message-ID: <c7msnp+6nki@eGroups.com>

According to ABC.com, it re-airs May 15. It also very clearly states 
that on both occassions, the 10 minute special of POA will air "at 
the conclusion of the broadcast." Hmph! 

Deb




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:25:47 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:25:47 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone else miss it?
References: <c7mrde+jte4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c4363e$7d05a250$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



I thought it would be the last 10 minutes too, but really, they were showing
clips throughout all the commercials so I would have never turned it off
just in case I missed something.  LOL!  I actually enjoyed watching it again.
I have the movie, of course, but I have seen CoS so much lately that I
think I have it memorized (thank you HBO for constantly airing the movie!).
It has been a while since I have seen the original, and I loved all the extra
scenes too.  They really should have left the potions class part in... when
kind of talks back to Snape.  

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scully931 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:03 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone else miss it?


  Did anyone else think it was coming at the END of the movie? I 
  turned it off for a while thinking it would come at the last ten 
  minutes. Turned it back on during the hospital scene and the movie 
  just ended! I feel so cheated!!!

  Deborah



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From thekrenz at msn.com  Mon May 10 03:14:51 2004
From: thekrenz at msn.com (thekrenz)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 03:14:51 -0000
Subject: Glad to see the extra footage.
Message-ID: <c7ms3b+iein@eGroups.com>

I had the VCR going for the entire time.  Since I don't own SS on 
DVD, the extra scenes were a real treat!
By the way, has anyone heard/read if the trio will be back for any 
movies after GoF?





From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:31:12 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:31:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Holy Cricket - ABC
References: <c7mj6n+812p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002201c4363f$3f029570$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



I didn't notice anything different with the music, however, it did have some trouble with the song...
like they didn't come in fully or something... at least that is how it was here at my home. They
have been talking about doing the additional scenes and advertising it that way, and they
all seem to be the "extras" from the DVD, however, was it me or did the Quidditch game last
longer and had more footage?  I don't member those being "extras" on the DVD.

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scully931 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:43 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Holy Cricket - ABC


  Yes, what's with all the scenes we've never seen?! Did anyone know 
  they were showing these? I heard a radio advirtisement today and all 
  they said was, 'Scenes never seen on network television' so I 
  figured they were the ones from the DVD. Argh! I agree, the music 
  has caught my attention a few times. Not sure if it's different or 
  just louder. 

  Deborah

  --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Jodi Robertson" 
  <nostrebor at r...> wrote:
  > I should edit to say Marge with the eggs and the first one. And 
  tell me if
  > I'm wrong - but isn't the music different also? Just hearing it 
  when Hagrid
  > arrives at the island.
  > Jodi
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Jodi Robertson" <nostrebor at r...>
  > To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
  > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:16 PM
  > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Holy Cricket - ABC
  > 
  > 
  > > Whaaa - I can't find a blank tape anywhere! Two scenes already 
  that
  > weren't
  > > on the VHS or DVD.
  > > Jodi



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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:37:27 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:37:27 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 896 (PoA trailers)
References: <163.2f492b79.2dcff2c7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c43640$1fbd19f0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 



  In a message dated 5/9/2004 7:05:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
  artsylynda at aol.com writes:

  >>Yes, I was bothered they left out the "Expecto Patronum" scene in that ad 
  during "Friends," but I am ESPECIALLY annoyed that we Americans get a 
  "kid-friendly" ad while the French get a really cool, scary trailer!  WHY???  
  I LOVE the French trailer!!!  I'd love to see it on a bigger screen than the 
  little 
  RealPlayer one on my computer!<<



  Well, the reason the trailer during "Friends" was so "kid-friendly" and short is because they only had
  30 seconds.  Anyone advertising during the last "Friends" episode had to pay like 2 million dollars for a
  30 second ad.  If they wanted it longer, they had to pay more money, of course.  I found it weak too... 
  like they pulled it off the Nick channel... and I am hoping that now that the big trailer is out from tonight,
  we will start to see a better trailer.

  Kimberly

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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:40:39 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:40:39 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA poster book
References: <fb.5648df3f.2dcfcdc9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003701c43640$90107120$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Thanks Cindy... that is what I just did... bought the poster book and two posters (one for my
son and one for me) at Amazon.com.  

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: clshannon at aol.com 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 1:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA poster book


  I got the poster book on Amazon.com.
  Amazon is pretty reliable and they usually have everything ;-)
  Cindy


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:43:58 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:43:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] "62242"
References: <1eb.1fe982a7.2dcf9454@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c43641$06d60540$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: artsylynda at aol.com 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Digest Number 896


  In a message dated 5/9/2004 5:35:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
  HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
  I'm forty-seven, and will be wearing my 62242, 
  S.P.E.W., and 9 3/4 buttons 
  Okay, what's "62242"?  I'm lost.  The others I completely understand.>>
  Just a guess on my part, but the Sirius' prison number?

  Kimberly




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From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 10 03:44:09 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:44:09 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA poster book
Message-ID: <167.2f33521a.2dd05489@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/9/04 8:41:53 PM, twinslove at mindspring.com writes:


> 
> Thanks Cindy... that is what I just did... bought the poster book and two 
> posters (one for my
> son and one for me) at Amazon.com.?
> 

You're quite welcome ;-) I am always chanting, 'Amazon, Amazon...' everytime 
stuff starts coming out. I think they should hire me or something, <g>
 It's so much easier than running around to different stores trying to find 
things.
Cindy


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From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 10 03:45:17 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:45:17 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone who missed preview....
Message-ID: <105.45fe995b.2dd054cd@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/9/04 8:41:57 PM, scully931 at yahoo.com writes:


> According to ABC.com, it re-airs May 15. It also very clearly states
> that on both occassions, the 10 minute special of POA will air "at
> the conclusion of the broadcast." Hmph!
> 

Oh, that's good news! Thanks for posting that for folks who miss it tonight. 
At least the POA preview will be seen ;-)
Cindy


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From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 10 03:42:45 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 23:42:45 EDT
Subject: Repeats on TV again Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Anyone else miss it?
Message-ID: <2d.3d5691eb.2dd05435@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/9/04 8:41:10 PM, redina at silverbloom.net writes:


> I thought so too.? However, I think ABC repeats this.? Check out
> TVGuide.com for airtimes.
> 

It's repeating on the 15th, but it is listed for only 3 hours, so we have no 
idea if all of the additional stuff will be included (the kids, the POA 
preview, etc.).
Cindy


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Mon May 10 03:50:12 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 22:50:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Glad to see the extra footage.
References: <c7ms3b+iein@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c43641$e5e63520$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Not really but I did just read an article with Rupert, and he said he would like to do
all the Harry Potter movies.

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: thekrenz 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:14 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Glad to see the extra footage.


  I had the VCR going for the entire time.  Since I don't own SS on 
  DVD, the extra scenes were a real treat!
  By the way, has anyone heard/read if the trio will be back for any 
  movies after GoF?




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From alexpie at aol.com  Mon May 10 04:06:13 2004
From: alexpie at aol.com (alexpie at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 00:06:13 EDT
Subject: 62442
Message-ID: <3e.3eb76b94.2dd059b5@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/04 10:46:51 PM Central Daylight Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> Okay, what's "62242"?  I'm lost.  The others I completely understand.
> 
> 
Not in the films yet; it's what Mr. Weasley dials (in OoP) to get into St. 
Mungo's--the numbers on a telephone spell 6(M)2(A)4(G)4(I)2(C).  Yes, I 
misnumerated!  Sorry; it is 62442. And can't wait to see how the hospital waiting room 
is handled in the film, to drag in relevance.
Ba


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From nepenthales at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 04:58:24 2004
From: nepenthales at yahoo.com (Andrew)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 04:58:24 -0000
Subject: "62242"
In-Reply-To: <003f01c43641$06d60540$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c7n25g+99lc@eGroups.com>

Kimberly Roth wrote:
>   Okay, what's "62242"?  I'm lost.  The others I completely 
understand.>>
>   Just a guess on my part, but the Sirius' prison number?
> 
>   Kimberly

It's actually 62442: those are the numbers that spell "magic" on a 
telephone.  It is the password to the visitor's entrance of the 
Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix.

-Nepenthales




From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 10 05:53:36 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 01:53:36 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ABC presentation
Message-ID: <4e.2b5b230c.2dd072e0@aol.com>

Well, I am the opposite of speechless ;-) There are a million things to say 
about this whole broadcast - the bits in between with the kid, the 10 min. POA 
preview which had lots of behind the scenes snippets....too much to comment 
on, too much to comment on! 
I have checked the comments on The Leaky Cauldron - 189 so far and growing. I 
thought for sure this list would be buzzing ;-)
I do want to say that if they don't include a lot of behind the scenes, 
making of stuff in the POA DVD, I will be massively angry <g> Those first two DVDs 
were pathetic - just from the small amount of stuff we saw tonight, I know 
they have tons of material. Someone was definitely filming the behind the scenes 
stuff. This is the kind of thing that folks want to see on the DVD, right? 
Grrr. I hope they realize this.

As for the new footage of POA that we haven't seen - there was a lot. Much 
more than in all the trailers. It looks amazing, incredible...can't wait for 
June 4th!

I thought the three kids were great - they really made some funny comments. I 
especially loved their reactions to the Snape in a dress clip. Dan said 
something like, 'any scene with Alan Rickman in a dress has to be good' or a 
variation of that ;-) Too cute. 
And when Emma asked Dan to relate his tale of the girl in the towel in New 
York at the taping of TRL, she followed it with talk of how, 'it's always like 
that for Dan' and about girls who yell things like, 'marry me Dan' ;-) He 
seemed surprised at this and even asked her if that was true. He looked a bit 
embarrassed by it as well <g>
They even mentioned the hormonal tension between Ron and Hermione ;-)
Well, I won't ramble any more, although there are so many things popping 
around in my head!
Cindy


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 10 06:10:54 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <4e.2b5b230c.2dd072e0@aol.com>
References: <4e.2b5b230c.2dd072e0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3835.4.47.27.208.1084169454.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

clshannon at aol.com said:

> I have checked the comments on The Leaky Cauldron - 189 so far and
> growing. I
> thought for sure this list would be buzzing ;-)

Might be the late hour.  I know I was excited while it aired.  HBO-West is
now showing Chamber of Secrets.

As to sorry extras on the DVDs, after being spoiled by LOTR (good Lord,
they *packed* the extended editions), yeah, the HP DVDs were disappointing
in comparison.

Dina


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From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May 10 09:38:11 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 05:38:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] ABC presentation
Message-ID: <b4.2bc803b1.2dd0a783@aol.com>

That was fantastic....
I hope that when CoS has its (US) network premiere that they add the scenes 
it again, the only thing missing is it being in widescreen. The interview clips 
were adorable, the three of them seem really comfortable with each other 
(although, was it just me, or was it sort of awkwardly edited?). I loved all the 
little clips from PoA (of course), its great to see there's stuff not from the 
book to look forward to (if it was *all* from the book there wouldn't be any 
surprises....especially as I've read PoA about four times). I loved the "Ronald 
has lost his rat" line, that was really funny. It was great that they had 
some brief interviews with the adult cast too (I'm especially happy about the 
Gary Oldman bit, although it was only about four seconds long).
All this just makes waiting till June harder though.

By the way Leaky (the-leaky-cauldron.org) has links to the clips (all you 
non-US citizens can see it there).

-Rebecca


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Mon May 10 07:13:20 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 07:13:20 -0000
Subject: ABC special online
Message-ID: <c7na2g+t45s@eGroups.com>

To all who missed the azkaban-bit  of the special--don't worry, 
http://www.hpana.com has a list of links you can download the 10-min. 
clip from. I just did and LOVED it!

Sophia




From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 10 12:57:53 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 08:57:53 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] repeats on TV & ABC presentation
Message-ID: <31.47a54d52.2dd0d651@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/10/2004 5:51:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
it is listed for only 3 hours, so we have no 
idea if all of the additional stuff will be included (the kids, the POA 
preview, etc.).
Maybe they'll cut out some of the COMMERCIALS!  ARGH!  There were SO 
MANY!!!!!  

It was GREAT to see the kids as themselves, interacting with each other and 
all.  Rupert is suddenly quite the hunk and didn't look nearly as goofy as he 
has in other interviews and so forth.  Has anyone done a transcription of the 
interview segments yet?  They spoke over each other at times, or muttered a 
bit, so it was hard to understand some things they said (when they were all 
talking at once).  And it was fun to see Dan acting more goofy, like a kid, rather 
than being the "mature" and serious one as he usually is in interviews (not 
that he wasn't mature, but it was fun to see him crack himself up when he said 
"Doesn't everyone?" about him picturing the book characters as cartoons rather 
than real, that kind of thing).

Emma seemed to startle Dan with her comment about his "infamous" fan from the 
MTV interview (I've read that story before -- seeing his reaction to her 
bringing it up was priceless!)  And his reaction to the "marry me, Dan" thing -- 
too cute!  

My favorite 'new" (not seen before) scene from PoA HAD to be Harry shouting 
with joy when flying on Buckbeak -- I think JKR missed it in the book -- the 
flight should have been longer, and Harry, who LOVES to fly, should have enjoyed 
it once he got the feel of it.  I'm glad they did it that way in the movie, 
can't WAIT to see it on a big screen and for longer than a second or two!

I have a business trip to go on the week after PoA opens.  Got to find out 
where movie theaters are in the town where I'm going, and what time their shows 
are. . . .  heehee!!


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 10 13:01:22 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:01:22 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA opening date in UK
Message-ID: <5b.4e133b77.2dd0d722@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 11:46:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
for whoever said that this will be shorter than the others; the cinema
confirmed it at 3 hours and 20 minutes.

Cheers,
Nicholas
First off, UNFAIR UNFAIR UNFAIR that you get to see PoA FIRST!  *sniff*  
Secondly -- I read somewhere (an interview with the director, I think, fairly 
recently) that it was 2 hours and something, and by far the shortest of the three 
HP moview.  Is the MOVIE ITSELF 3 hours 20 minutes, or does that include 
previews of coming attractions, advertising, etc. that they show before the film?  
(Keeping my fingers crossed that it's the movie itself!!)

Lynda Sappington
Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast 
porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold 
and sterling silver.


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 10 13:04:16 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 09:04:16 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] so who will be watching ABC tonight?
Message-ID: <1a6.23e34185.2dd0d7d0@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2004 11:46:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> Well, Since it's Mother's Day - and I'm a Mom - I want to watch 
ABC tonight
> and aren't moms supposed to get what they want on Mother's Day LOL!
> Jodi


Darn tootin'.  I'm tucking the kids (and hubbycakes) into bed, and 
then commandeering the tube.  Though the chocolates, flower, and  
poem composed by one of my sons comparing his love for me to a pear 
and a banana ("Because yellow's your favorite color!") were lovely, 
I must confess I am most looking forward to tonight's big event.  

I'm a mom of married kids in their 20's, so when I got phone messages from 
them, I returned their calls and mentioned I wasn't going to answer the phone 
after 7 PM due to the Harry Potter thing on TV, heehee.  Mother's Day was lovely 
-- I showed my horse and did quite well, my dear hubby offered to take me out 
to dinner and quite understood when I said "Dairy Queen" because we could eat 
there and be home in time for the HP show!  ;->  And he finished my evening 
chores so I could stay glued to the tube.  A lovely Mother's Day indeed!  Hope 
you all had great ones too!

Lynda Sappington
Equine Art by Lynda Sappington Elegant equine art in bronze, cold-cast 
porcelain, handcast paper and resin. Also jewelry with an equine theme in 14K gold 
and sterling silver.


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From sharon8880 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 15:03:34 2004
From: sharon8880 at yahoo.com (sharon)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:03:34 -0000
Subject: repeats on TV & ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <31.47a54d52.2dd0d651@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7o5k6+8d5j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/10/2004 5:51:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
SNIP SNIP SNIP
> it is listed for only 3 hours, so we have no 
> idea if all of the additional stuff will be included (the kids, the 
POA 
> preview, etc.).
> Maybe they'll cut out some of the COMMERCIALS!  ARGH!  There were 
SO 
> MANY!!!!!  

Sharon says:
I'll be looking forward to seeing it again on Saturday.  I hope to 
have less commercials also & a cleaner broadcast.  My TV screen was 
cluttered with banners on the bottom of the screen about the 11 pm 
local news coming up after the movie.  It also had in the upper right 
corner a T-storm watch reminder that the local ABC affiliate kept 
plastered on the screen during the whole watch, which lasted about 2 
1/2 hrs.  The watch covered about 8 counties in their viewing area, 
so the reminder showed all 8 counties which took up about 1/5 of my 
TV screen.  But despite these nuisances, I thought it was great & 
can't wait to see it again.
Sharon S.






From nepenthales at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 15:21:39 2004
From: nepenthales at yahoo.com (Andrew)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 15:21:39 -0000
Subject: PoA opening date in UK
In-Reply-To: <5b.4e133b77.2dd0d722@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7o6m3+lvo2@eGroups.com>

Lynda wrote:
> I read somewhere (an interview with the director, I 
> think, fairly recently) that it was 2 hours and something, and by 
> far the shortest of the three HP moview.  Is the MOVIE ITSELF 3 
> hours 20 minutes, or does that include previews of coming 
> attractions, advertising, etc. that they show before the film?  
> (Keeping my fingers crossed that it's the movie itself!!)


Cuaron has said that the movie is less than 150 minutes, which is 2.5 
hrs.  It is definitely not 3 hours long.

-Nepenthales





From lbiles at flash.net  Mon May 10 19:48:15 2004
From: lbiles at flash.net (leb2323)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:48:15 -0000
Subject: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <003c01c4351a$026c72a0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c7om9v+qqlj@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...> wrote:
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>   imamommy:
> 
>   Hey, I bought one of the Zonko's joke wands, and I've been driving my
>   hubby nuts by following him around, jinxing him with silly sounds. 
>   Fun for me and the kids!>>
>   I bought my son one of those! He loves it!  Took it for show-n-tell.
>   Every time he watches the movies, he brings out his wand, cloak, & broom
>   to act out the scenes.  So cute!!!
> 
>   Kimberly
> 

Where can you buy a Zonko's joke wand?  Sounds like a lot of fun!
leb2323




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Mon May 10 20:06:42 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 13:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trading cards and collectables
In-Reply-To: <c7om9v+qqlj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040510200642.6914.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>

We got ours at Target.  I've also seen them on eBay,
although they tend to be pricey (we paid $10 for
ours).

Gretchen

--- leb2323 <lbiles at flash.net> wrote:

Where can you buy a Zonko's joke wand?  Sounds like a
lot of fun!
leb2323

=====
Visit the Mr. Baby Blog:  http://gretchenb.tripod.com/mrbaby/



From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Mon May 10 21:46:27 2004
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:46:27 +0100
Subject: Length of PoA
Message-ID: <v01540b00bcc5a270d8a6@[217.154.252.212]>

Well, I don't know for sure, of course, but the woman who sold me the
tickets definitely said 3 hours and 20 minutes; yes, I'm sure that that
includes 10-15 minutes of commercials and trailers, but she actually said
that the 7 p.m. show finished at 10.20 p.m.
Hope she wasn't wrong!
Cheers.
Nicholas





From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May 10 21:04:39 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:04:39 EDT
Subject: PoA Preview Transcript
Message-ID: <141.2924b59c.2dd14867@aol.com>

Someone asked about a transcript for the show last night, danradcliffe.com, 
has one:
http://www.danradcliffe.com/transcripts/abc_hpss_050904_intv.html
They also have screencaps.


-Rebecca


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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 10 21:53:40 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:53:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HP spoof on MAD TV (5/10)
Message-ID: <1226.4.47.27.201.1084226020.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

For those with Comedy Central and are on a different timezone, at 5pm EST,
MAD TV aired the Chris Columbus directing spoof.  I hadn't seen it before
but it's a repeat since it's airing on CC.

I was amused with the joking concept of filming must be rushed before the
young actors get 'pubes'.

Dina


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 11 00:31:30 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:31:30 -0500
Subject: New Trailer on WB
Message-ID: <000b01c436ef$4f4e4630$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>



Just thought I'd let you know that I just saw a totally different trailer a few minutes ago.
It showed the werewolf, Harry taking off on the hippogriff, and Harry falling off the broom
in the rain... and a couple more different scenes.  I hope they will show it again, because my
son was mad he missed it. :-)  Anyway, it came on the WB channel here in the US.

Just thought I'd share...

Kimberly
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Twice Loved ~ Twice Blessed ~ Twins Love
mom to Jasper & Ashlynn (10/8/98)
http://twinslove.virtualave.net
AIM: Twinslove2
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 11 02:08:36 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 02:08:36 -0000
Subject: repeats on TV & ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <31.47a54d52.2dd0d651@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7pcj4+gi4n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:

> 
> It was GREAT to see the kids as themselves, interacting with each
other and 
> all.  Rupert is suddenly quite the hunk and didn't look nearly as
goofy as he 
> has in other interviews and so forth. 

imamommy:
Yes, Rupert seems much more cmfortable in his own skin, but I must
render my opinion that he looks like "a long-haired pillock".

 
> Emma seemed to startle Dan with her comment about his "infamous" fan
from the 
> MTV interview (I've read that story before -- seeing his reaction to
her 
> bringing it up was priceless!)  And his reaction to the "marry me,
Dan" thing -- 
> too cute!  


I liked how Dan was gracious by saying the girl seemed, er, nice. 
Poor guy!

imamommy




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 11 03:20:58 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:20:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trading cards and collectables
References: <c7om9v+qqlj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001601c43706$fac5b950$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  > 

  Where can you buy a Zonko's joke wand?  Sounds like a lot of fun!
  leb2323>>

  I got it at Target and I noticed it at Wal-Mart too.  My son loves it.  I find it annoying at times. :-)
  Kimberly




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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue May 11 04:33:43 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:33:43 -0400
Subject: HP ABC special
In-Reply-To: <c7pcj4+gi4n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCC5CFE7.93F%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Uhmm, what's a "pillock"?!?
I thought Rupert is quite coming into his own. Not so geeky-looking. I was
showing my husband the POA 10 minute preview, and when he saw Dan he said
"Woah! He's looking like quite the stud now!" I didn't want to agree too
loudly! But he is indeed a cutie!
I taped the whole special, but was putting the kids to bed during 1/2 of it,
and didn't realize there were snippets of conversations during commercial
breaks. I must go back and watch it now!!
And, like all of you, I am soooooo darned excited about the movie. I agree
with Chris Columbus that it looks as though the actors have really matured
professionally. AND it seems as though Ron will have some more "quality"
air-time; not just mugging to the camera like COS. POA is one of my favorite
HP books; the whole Sirius twist of plot is fascinating.
Hurray, hurray. only 3+ weeks away!  :-)
bewitchedbyhp

imamommy:
Yes, Rupert seems much more cmfortable in his own skin, but I must
render my opinion that he looks like "a long-haired pillock".


> Emma seemed to startle Dan with her comment about his "infamous" fan
from the 
> MTV interview (I've read that story before -- seeing his reaction to
her 
> bringing it up was priceless!)  And his reaction to the "marry me,
Dan" thing -- 
> too cute!  



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From syndicateblue at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 04:31:22 2004
From: syndicateblue at yahoo.com (syndicateblue)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 04:31:22 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <c7pkur+fo8r@eGroups.com>

The Object is to set the cast that you would want to play in Goblet 
of Fire/Order of the Phoenix.  Reasons for choosing an actor may be 
either personal preference or simply because he/she have already 
played the roles in previous films and it would be awkward to switch.

Rules:
Actor/Actress must be alive.
Actor/Actress must be of the same nationality that they are in the 
book.
The cast may include as many or as few characters as you wish (that 
are in the book, of course).

I'll start :)

My 'dream' Cast:

Harry Potter: Daniel Radcliffe
Hermione Granger: Emma Watson
Ronald Weasley: Rupert Grint
Rubeus Hagrid: Robbie Coltrane
Prof. Snape: Alan Rickman
Prof. McGonagall: Maggie Smith
Sirius Black: Alan Rickman
Prof. Lupin: David Thewlis
Peter Pettigrew: Timothy Spall
,etc.
(All the same so far, now for my new tweaks/additions:)

Albus Dumbledore: Sir Ian McKellan
Alastor Moody: Sean Connery
Cornelius Fudge: Rowan Atkinson
Lord Voldemort: Anthony Hopkins
Bellatrix Lestrange: Helena Bonham Carter






From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue May 11 04:56:46 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 00:56:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7pkur+fo8r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCC5D54E.946%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Sort of off-topic: Did you see Helena Bonham Carter in "Big Fish"? Just
rented that on DVD. Awesome flick. She was great. That was her playing the
witch as well as the "other woman", wasn't it?

From: "syndicateblue" <syndicateblue at yahoo.com>

Bellatrix Lestrange: Helena Bonham Carter



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From djs504 at lycos.com  Tue May 11 06:58:30 2004
From: djs504 at lycos.com (DEBRA JO SMITH)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:58:30 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP on TV
Message-ID: <HINNPGGMCDKHAMAA@mailcity.com>

Hi, everyone the movie will be rebroadcast on Saturday, May 15 at 8pm. At least that is the time for in Martinsburg, West Virginia for Channel 7, since channel 7 is a national channel - who knows!

Debby


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From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue May 11 07:54:37 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 03:54:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Casting Game
Message-ID: <20.290636c3.2dd1e0bd@aol.com>

I know its been mentioned before, but how about Judi Dench for Umbridge? I 
think she would be *perfect*. Also, if she were British, I would say Tracey 
Ullman as Rita Skeeter (although she may be too old for the part anyway, I'm not 
sure how old she is now). Jeremy Irons as Voldemort would be fantastic too.

Oh, and I completely agree with Helana Bonham Carter as Bellatrix. 


-Rebecca


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Tue May 11 13:08:15 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:08:15 -0000
Subject: repeats on TV & ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <c7pcj4+gi4n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7qj7v+p6ve@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> wrote:
 
> I liked how Dan was gracious by saying the girl seemed, er, nice. 
> Poor guy!
> 
Yes, and I also liked how he makes a point of defending Christopher 
Columbus and how he prepared them for Alfonso (conisdering that 
Columbus and Cuaron are most likely not on the same level as 
filmmakers.)

BTW did you read the new interview with Gary Olman on Leaky? I loved 
how he has apparently taken to Dan as much as Dan has taken to him. I 
just find it moving, somehow. Do you think it'll show in the movie?

Sophia






From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue May 11 13:45:02 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:45:02 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Cuaron vs. Columbus
In-Reply-To: <c7qj7v+p6ve@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCC6511E.955%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> wrote:

Yes, and I also liked how he makes a point of defending Christopher
Columbus and how he prepared them for Alfonso (conisdering that
Columbus and Cuaron are most likely not on the same level as
filmmakers.)


Yes, I've noticed in several interviews including this past Sunday, that Dan
seems to prefer Chris Columbus to Cuaron. Perhaps I'm reading between the
lines, but when they were talking about how different the directing was, Dan
said something like "Yes, it worked out great "in the end". Like maybe in
the beginning, it was a struggle for him to adapt? He has said stuff in the
past like "Alphonse is much more "intense". Does that mean,
demanding/temperamental? (although I must admit, from previews alone it
really seems to have paid off from both a visual and an acting standpoint.
I also found it touching when Chris Columbus mentioned how attached he had
become to the kids, and that he felt responsible for turning them over to
someone new.
And now a third director for GOF and OOP. Must be hard to continually have a
new "boss". But then again, most actors don't have the good fortune to work
with the same cast year after year. I hope they all continue to the 7th
movie!

bewitchedbyhp 



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From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 11 13:57:57 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:57:57 +0100
Subject: HP Movie Scripts
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A3BCBD@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

 
Hi All,

Has anyone seen copies of the movie scripts available? There are various
script sites that have electronic copies, but it would be good to find
an official version for sale officially somewhere.

I know one can buy them for other films (e.g. the Matrix
http://www.newmarketpress.com/title.asp?id=582).

Cheers,

Dumbledad



From grace701 at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 14:31:00 2004
From: grace701 at yahoo.com (grace701 at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:31:00 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <20.290636c3.2dd1e0bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7qo34+v3co@eGroups.com>

patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Oh, and I completely agree with Helana Bonham Carter as Bellatrix. 
> 
> 
> -Rebecca


I like Helena Bonham Carter, but I can't help but picture my 
Bellatrix as Catherine Zeta-Jones.

~Grace




From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 11 15:12:12 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:12:12 -0000
Subject: Casting Bellatrix (was Re: The Casting Game)
In-Reply-To: <c7qo34+v3co@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7qqgc+3q5g@eGroups.com>

Hi All,


<syndicateblue post 8601>
Bellatrix =  Helena Bonham Carter
</syndicateblue>
I love Helena Bonham Carter's acting (though I haven't seen "Big 
Fish"), but she seems too whispy for our Mrs Lestrange.

<grace post 8608>
Bellatrix = Catherine Zeta-Jones
</grace>
Maybe, she is fabulous. Though for me she'll always be partly 
Mariette Larkin, perfec'.

So I'm opting for 
Bellatrix = Helen Baxendale
Helen Blaxendale may be a bit young (she was born in 1969, how old 
is Bellatrix?). But I think she'd be very good at doing trapped-but-
powerful or dangerous-when-cornered. There are photos of her at 
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Helen%20Baxendale%22
http://tinyurl.com/ytpmx
but they don't seem to convey how powerful her acting can be (she 
was amazing in "Truth or Dare").




From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Tue May 11 15:44:45 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:44:45 -0000
Subject: Casting Bellatrix (was Re: The Casting Game)
In-Reply-To: <c7qqgc+3q5g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7qsdd+bdv9@eGroups.com>

Hi All,

Wow - I really really had not checked the archives. Here's a fuller 
list ...

Kirstini in post 6815
Kristin Scott Thomas
Catherine Zeta Jones

Susan in post 6911
Charlotte Coleman (though with the proviso that she's dead)

Sara in post 6871
Ann Rice

daughter in post 6897
Angelica Huston

Tasukibeth/Wufei in post 6949
Dame Helen Mirren

Dan in post 7082
peppy elf (!!!)

Anne U in post 7088
A.S. Byatt

Marci in post 7099
Miranda Richardson

Donna in post 7199
Susan Sarandon

imamommy in post 8178
Anna Chancellor

Maureen in 8216
Daniela Nardini

syndicateblue in post 8601
Helena Bonham Carter

Dumbledad in post
Helen Baxendale

Appologies to anyone I've missed or misattributed.

Cheers,

Dumbledad.




From syndicateblue at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 15:22:33 2004
From: syndicateblue at yahoo.com (syndicateblue)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:22:33 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <20.290636c3.2dd1e0bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7qr3p+qr6a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:

>Jeremy Irons as Voldemort would be fantastic too.
> 
> 
> -Rebecca

Yes!  I was debating between Anthony Hopkins and Jeremy Irons as 
Voldemort.  I think both would be excellent for the part.

Actually, in my mind whenever I read the books I envision Snape's 
voice as being nearly identical to Irons' voice of Scar in the Lion 
King.

-blue





From msshanley at lycos.com  Tue May 11 17:22:58 2004
From: msshanley at lycos.com (msshanley)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:22:58 -0000
Subject: Question on CoS line
Message-ID: <c7r25i+t7vb@eGroups.com>

I've looked at a couple of versions of the CoS scripts to try to 
figure out Molly Weasley's line after Ginny asks where her jumper is, 
but am having no luck.  It sounds like (& one script says this) "It's 
on the cat, dear."  The book doesn't help, there's no corresponding 
dialog there.  Is that really the line?  Why throw that bit of 
silliness in?  And doesn't Ron hate or at least dislike cats?  I 
never had the impression there were any cats in the household.  Can 
anyone help?

Maryanne                   





From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May 11 18:50:05 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Question on CoS line
In-Reply-To: <c7r25i+t7vb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040511185005.24210.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm quite sure that "It's on the cat, dear" is what
she says.  The reason why, I do not know, except that
to me, it seemed to convey the sense of the Weasley
household as rather upside-down due the large number
of children.

Gretchen

--- msshanley <msshanley at lycos.com> wrote:

---------------------------------
I've looked at a couple of versions of the CoS scripts
to try to 
figure out Molly Weasley's line after Ginny asks where
her jumper is, 
but am having no luck.  It sounds like (& one script
says this) "It's 
on the cat, dear."  The book doesn't help, there's no
corresponding 
dialog there.  Is that really the line?  Why throw
that bit of 
silliness in?  And doesn't Ron hate or at least
dislike cats?  I 
never had the impression there were any cats in the
household.  Can 
anyone help?

Maryanne

=====
Visit the Mr. Baby Blog:  http://gretchenb.tripod.com/mrbaby/



From cherlouize at aol.com  Tue May 11 19:05:37 2004
From: cherlouize at aol.com (cherlouize at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:05:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]Rita Skeeter
Message-ID: <78.56b0b913.2dd27e01@aol.com>

Hi,
I was just mentioning to my spouse the other day that Tracey Ullman would be 
PERFECT for Rita Skeeter!  She IS British, BTW.  <fingers crossed that she'll 
be cast>>
PAX,
Cher

In a message dated 5/11/2004 5:55:36 AM Central Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
if she were British, I would say Tracey 
Ullman as Rita Skeeter (although she may be too old for the part anyway, I'm 
not 
sure how old she is now). 



.~&@&~.~&@&~. Cherlouize .~&@&~.~&@&~.


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From lists at heidi8.com  Tue May 11 20:24:15 2004
From: lists at heidi8.com (heiditandy)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:24:15 -0000
Subject: POA IMAX NYC Tickets Back On Sale
Message-ID: <c7rcpf+abga@eGroups.com>

We have some great news! The LOEWS IMAX theater is still offering 
tickets at a discount - although the prices have gone up a little 
for those who are post-college-graduate-ages. 

If you're paying via PayPal - Tickets are still $10.00 for those who 
are college students or younger, but tickets for adults are now 
$13.00. The popcorn/soda combination is still $2.50. 

If you're paying via check or money order - Tickets are 9.50 for a 
kid/college student ticket, 12.50 for an adult ticket, 2.25 for 
popcorn+soda. If you want to pay for tickets this way, please send 
an email to help at fictionalley.org with your name and the number of 
tickets that you're reserving. Your email will hold your ticket 
reservation until your payment arrives, and sending an email 
obligates you to send a check or money order. We do not recommend 
sending cash. Address information for this type of payment is at 
http://www.fictionalley.org/POA_NYC.html

If you want to purchase tickets via PayPal, please click here: 
http://www.fictionalley.org/POA_NYC.html

As of today, we'd already sold over 250 tickets - the theater holds 
600 people, but we don't know how quickly we're going to sell out. 
So if you want to be sure that you'll have a seat, order sooner than 
later. 

Tickets will be distributed in the 90 minutes before showtime, and 
closer to the date, we'll post here to let everyone know exactly 
where we'll be. Seats are first-come, first served, based on 
arrivals at the theater that afternoon. 

We still don't know a definite start time, but we *think* the show 
will begin at 4:00 pm. 

See you there!


Heidi




From nepenthales at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 18:35:08 2004
From: nepenthales at yahoo.com (Andrew)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:35:08 -0000
Subject: Question on CoS line
In-Reply-To: <c7r25i+t7vb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7r6cs+chn8@eGroups.com>

msshanley wrote:
> I've looked at a couple of versions of the CoS scripts to try to 
> figure out Molly Weasley's line after Ginny asks where her jumper 
is, 
> but am having no luck.  It sounds like (& one script says 
this) "It's 
> on the cat, dear."  The book doesn't help, there's no corresponding 
> dialog there.  Is that really the line?  Why throw that bit of 
> silliness in?  And doesn't Ron hate or at least dislike cats?  I 
> never had the impression there were any cats in the household.  Can 
> anyone help?
> 
> Maryanne

I think the line was "Yes, dear.  It was on the cat."

-Nepenthales





From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Tue May 11 22:36:26 2004
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Question on CoS line
In-Reply-To: <20040511185005.24210.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040511223626.2555.qmail@web42102.mail.yahoo.com>


--- msshanley <msshanley at lycos.com> wrote:

---------------------------------
I've looked at a couple of versions of the CoS scripts
to try to 
figure out Molly Weasley's line after Ginny asks where
her jumper is, 
but am having no luck.  It sounds like (& one script
says this) "It's 
on the cat, dear."  

akh: If you have the DVD, you can watch it with the subtitles, and it will give you the line.  I'm not watching it right now, but IIRC, it is "It's on the cat."  

I don't know that Ron hates all cats; he's just not fond of Crookshanks or Mrs. Norris.  At any rate, Rowling established in the books that Ginny loves cats, so it's entirely reasonable she would have one as a pet.

 

akh

 


		
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From andie at knownet.net  Wed May 12 01:07:21 2004
From: andie at knownet.net (grindieloe)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:07:21 -0000
Subject: Question on CoS line
In-Reply-To: <20040511223626.2555.qmail@web42102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c7rtc9+ps76@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, AnitaKH <anita_hillin at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- msshanley <msshanley at l...> wrote:
> 
> ---------------------------------
> I've looked at a couple of versions of the CoS scripts
> to try to 
> figure out Molly Weasley's line after Ginny asks where
> her jumper is, 
> but am having no luck.  



I believe it is "Yes Dear... It's on the cat!"

:) Andrea




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 12 02:33:05 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:33:05 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7qr3p+qr6a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7s2d1+q0n8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "syndicateblue"
<syndicateblue at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> 
> >Jeremy Irons as Voldemort would be fantastic too.
> > 
> > 
> > -Rebecca
> 
> Yes!  I was debating between Anthony Hopkins and Jeremy Irons as 
> Voldemort.  I think both would be excellent for the part.
> 
> Actually, in my mind whenever I read the books I envision Snape's 
> voice as being nearly identical to Irons' voice of Scar in the Lion 
> King.
> 
> -blue

imamommy

What's funny is I kept mixing up Jason Isaacs with Jeremy Irons
because his voice as Lucius so forcefull reminded me of Scar.

I do think Jeremy Irons might make a good Voldemort.

imamommy




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 12 02:43:32 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:43:32 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7pkur+fo8r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c7s30k+i8gq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "syndicateblue" <
> 

> Sirius Black: Alan Rickman

imamommy:

Does anyone but me not think that, while an incredible actor, Gary
Oldman just doesn't have the, um, sex appeal for Sirius?  I know he
starts off scraggly-looking, but I sort of thought they'd find someone
who cleans up better.  I know, too late now!

I might've liked Colin Firth...

imamommy





From clshannon at aol.com  Wed May 12 05:27:39 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 01:27:39 EDT
Subject: Talk show appearance
Message-ID: <1e2.203ed851.2dd30fcb@aol.com>

Howdy folks,
According to a web site that lists upcoming guests for talk shows, Daniel 
Radcliffe is listed for Late Night with Conan O'Brien on Tuesday, May 25th. The 
show airs here in the US at 12:35 am after The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. It's 
on NBC and tapes in NY, which is probably why Dan is on it since the premier 
is the 23rd in NY. Hopefully, there will be more appearances by cast members 
during the week of the 25th. Once the page updates (the other shows only went 
up to the 21st), I will check again.

Anyway, thought folks might want to know ;-)
Cindy

P.S. Also:
 - The same day (May 25th), HBO is showing their Behind the Scenes special on 
POA. I am sure it will air more than once, but the first time is at 8:45 pm. 
on HBO East.


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Wed May 12 02:46:59 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:46:59 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The Casting Game
References: <c7pkur+fo8r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <014e01c437cb$65cc67c0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

Alastor Moody: Billy Connely (http://imdb.com/name/nm0175262/)
Lord Voldemort: Richard O'Brian(http://imdb.com/name/nm0639782/photogallery-ss-0)
Bellatrix Lestrange: Claudia Black {I know she is a Kiwi but she would be perfect and she is more of an unknown}  http://www.claudiablack.de/






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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 12 08:08:29 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 04:08:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7s2d1+q0n8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCC753BD.975%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


What's funny is I kept mixing up Jason Isaacs with Jeremy Irons
because his voice as Lucius so forcefull reminded me of Scar.

imamommy



Speaking of Lucius, is that Jason Isaacs that plays Captain Hook on the
latest non-animated version of Peter Pan? I want to see more of him. He's
such a great actor. Can anyone tell me other films he's been in? He was
great as the evil soldier in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot"!

bewitchedbyhp



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 12 08:17:22 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 04:17:22 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7s30k+i8gq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCC755D1.977%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


imamommy:

Does anyone but me not think that, while an incredible actor, Gary
Oldman just doesn't have the, um, sex appeal for Sirius?  I know he
starts off scraggly-looking, but I sort of thought they'd find someone
who cleans up better.  I know, too late now!

I might've liked Colin Firth...


I thought so at first, because I will admit I developed a fantasy crush on
Sirius after reading the last 3 books! Something about that dark, brooding,
bad boy thing...! Always makes a perfect mate in real life, right!?!   ;-)
But I so admire Gary Oldman's acting, that I have faith that he will
"become" Sirius. We'll have to wait 3 weeks to see!

bewitchedbyhp




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From patientx3 at aol.com  Wed May 12 08:30:41 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 04:30:41 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <1a2.241661c0.2dd33ab1@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/11/2004 8:09:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
imamommy at sbcglobal.net writes:

>>Does anyone but me not think that, while an incredible actor, Gary
Oldman just doesn't have the, um, sex appeal for Sirius?  I know he
starts off scraggly-looking, but I sort of thought they'd find someone
who cleans up better.  I know, too late now!

I might've liked Colin Firth...<<

Sirius may 'clean up' later, but he's NEVER described as being particularily 
'sexy' or goodlooking (actually, he only cleans up briefly before letting 
himself go again). After all those years of being worn down in prison, its not 
like he could just get a haircut and be the same again. Sirius is my favorite 
character and I *never* imagined him as good-looking and it didn't occur to me 
that he could be until I got into the fandom. In PoA, he's described as being 
'handsome' which I assumed meant in contrast to looking like a corpse. And in 
OoP his YOUNGER self is described as being very attractive, but that was 20 
years before PoA, plenty of people change from teenage years until adulthood, even 
without being in prison for 12 years.
 In case you can't tell, I think Gary Oldman is a *perfect* choice for Sirius 
(and I didn't know who he was until he was cast, since then I've watched a 
bunch of his movies and he's fantastic in every one). Sirius is a very intense 
character, he sort of carries his heart on his sleeve, not holding anything 
back, any actor, attractive or not would have to be able to bring that across on 
screen. (believe it or not, by the way, Gary Oldman can be not bad looking if 
he's fixed up the right way, its just so few of his roles call for someone 
good-looking, I suggest you rent 'Rosencranzt and Guildenstern Are Dead' or 'The 
Scarlet Letter').

As for Colin Firth, I like him, but he's far too "soft" (for lack of a better 
word) for Sirius. I can't really see him coming across as a grizzled 
half-insane murderer, nor can I see him holding his own against Snape. 


-Rebecca


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From patientx3 at aol.com  Wed May 12 08:44:53 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 04:44:53 EDT
Subject: Cuaron interview in Premiere Magazine
Message-ID: <3f.2b9368c2.2dd33e05@aol.com>

The June 2004 issue of premiere (with Keira Knightley on the cover) has an 
interview with Alfonso Cuaron, he talks about working with the kids, the 
dementers, and a few other things (the article is on page 86). I'm not sure if its on 
newstands yet, as I have a subscription, but it should be available by Friday 
(I usually get it *after* newstands, but since my work doesn't have it yet, I 
assume I actually got it early for once). Its got no new pictures from the 
film, but there is one of Alfonso (with the same odd haircut from the PoA 
special that aired Sunday).


-Rebecca


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From easytoread at hotmail.com  Wed May 12 17:29:57 2004
From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:29:57 -0000
Subject: Talk show appearance
In-Reply-To: <1e2.203ed851.2dd30fcb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7tmul+kruf@eGroups.com>


clshannon at a... wrote:
> Howdy folks,
> According to a web site that lists upcoming guests for talk shows, 
> Daniel Radcliffe is listed for Late Night with Conan O'Brien on 
> Tuesday, May 25th. The show airs here in the US at 12:35 am after 
> The Tonight Show with Jay Leno. It's on NBC and tapes in NY, which 
> is probably why Dan is on it since the premier is the 23rd in NY. 
<snip>

Thanks! After reading your message, I found a listing for various 
talk shows at: http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html
They did not show any other HP cast or crew that I noticed.

Cinderz :)






From clshannon at aol.com  Wed May 12 18:47:28 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:47:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Talk show appearance
Message-ID: <96.ac80c43.2dd3cb40@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/12/04 11:43:56 AM, easytoread at hotmail.com writes:


> Thanks! After reading your message, I found a listing for various
> talk shows at: http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html
> They did not show any other HP cast or crew that I noticed.
> 
> 

Yep, that's the page I checked. I did notice that some of them don't list all 
the way to the 25th, so perhaps once it's updated, there will be more. 
However, the NY premier is the 23rd and I don't think we've heard when the LA 
premier is. Last   time, the kids made appearances on NY and LA shows, so I guess 
we'll have to wait and see. I hope they do the Oprah show again ;-) As well as 
Ellen DeGeneres - that show is a lot of fun.
Cindy


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From McGregorMax at ec.rr.com  Wed May 12 19:57:56 2004
From: McGregorMax at ec.rr.com (mcmaxslb)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:57:56 -0000
Subject: ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <b4.2bc803b1.2dd0a783@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7tvk4+ahe3@eGroups.com>

I'm surprised that there is not anymore talk about the ABC showing of 
SS and the Trio's hosting of it. So I'll throw this out.

 First they are growing up aren't they! But the things that got me 
was how excited they seemed about PoA, that they still are very 
enthusiastic about the project and that makes it more likely that 
they will stay and do the whole series. Also they seem to like each 
other, that they get along, another sign that they will stick for the 
long run. 

  Loved Emma's story about Dan's "exposure" to fangirls. Poor kid, I 
hope they don't scar him for life! All in all I'm even more looking 
forward to PoA than before.

 Oh thanks to those who answered my question about whether the cast 
will do GoF or not and glad to hear that they are working on it now. 




From patientx3 at aol.com  Wed May 12 21:53:54 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:53:54 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <113.32a08600.2dd3f6f2@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/12/2004 6:36:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk writes:

>>Last: All GO fans in the thread: The Leaky Cauldron has a link to a 
recent interview with him, and there may be another forthcoming (from 
the Belgian magazine that featured Robbie Coltrane last week.)<<

I read that, it was a fantastic interview (of course I've been hoping for an 
interview since last November). Its so sweet that he is particularly fond of 
Dan Radcliffe, considering how much in awe Dan seemed of him in the special.


-Rebecca


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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 00:29:47 2004
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:29:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: "Secret Life of Sets" to feature a set from PoA - opens THIS Friday
Message-ID: <20040513002947.77477.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com>

In case you haven't heard yet, the Academy of 
Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (the folks who 
hand out those statues of little bald men of gold) 
will open an exhibition called "Secret Life of Sets" 
this Friday that will feature a set from PoA.

For more info, go to:

http://tinyurl.com/2k9vf

(aka http://www.oscars.org/events/set_decoration/index.html)

This exhibition is free and can be seen at the 
Academy (located in Beverly Hills) from May 14th to 
August 15th.  Be advised - it isn't open every day.

Just in time for southern California line parties...

Petra
a
n  :)


	
		
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From dk59us at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 02:57:30 2004
From: dk59us at yahoo.com (Eustace_Scrubb)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 02:57:30 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <20.290636c3.2dd1e0bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c7uo6q+jiuh@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Also, if she were British, I would say Tracey Ullman as Rita Skeeter
(although she may be too old for the part anyway, I'm not 
> sure how old she is now). 
> -Rebecca

As it happens, Tracey Ullman _is_ British; according to IMDB, she was
born on  30 December 1959 in Slough, Berkshire, England, UK.  So if
mid-40s isn't too old for Rita, you've got that role filled.  How old
is Rita?  I rather think some of her more outrageous outfits are an
attempt to look younger than she really is...

Cheers,

Eustace Scrubb




From patientx3 at aol.com  Thu May 13 03:27:17 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 23:27:17 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <b4.2bfa6ac3.2dd44515@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/12/2004 8:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dk59us at yahoo.com writes:
>>As it happens, Tracey Ullman _is_ British; according to IMDB, she was
born on  30 December 1959 in Slough, Berkshire, England, UK.<<

I guess that was just me being pessimistic. If she's British than she *could* 
be Rita Skeeter, 40s-ish isn't too old for Rita, they could dress her down if 
need be (Alan Rickman is at least ten years older than Snape, but it works). 
Of course, it probably won't end up being her, but she would be perfect, 
wouldn't she? (if Rita even ends up in the movie).


-Rebecca


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Thu May 13 03:44:51 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7uo6q+jiuh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040513034451.47202.qmail@web80302.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I could SO see Rita as the "mutton dressed as lamb" type!  (Speaking as a woman in my mid-40s myself, less than a year younger than Tracey.)  There's nothing else honest about Rita -- it totally fits!  Plus I adore Tracey and always have.  (OT:  if you want to see Tracey at her unsung best, watch "I Love You To Death" [1990] which costars Kevin Kline, Joan Plowright, River Phoenix, Keanu Reeves, William Hurt, Miriam Margolyes [yes, Professor Sprout!  The first thing I saw her in, quite a small role, and she was brilliant!], and Heather Graham in a very early, barely credited role.)
 
Well, now you've sold me.  I read somewhere, perhaps on Leaky or Mugglenet, that Rita had been cast (and I'm too lazy to look up who it was), but I would love to see Tracey in that role.  One of her gifts is her ability to just disappear into a role.
 
Gretchen

Eustace_Scrubb <dk59us at yahoo.com> wrote:
So if mid-40s isn't too old for Rita, you've got that role filled.  How old
is Rita?  I rather think some of her more outrageous outfits are an
attempt to look younger than she really is...

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu May 13 17:03:58 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:03:58 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] interview shows
Message-ID: <15d.350bc997.2dd5047e@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:22:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Thanks! After reading your message, I found a listing for various 
talk shows at: http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html
They did not show any other HP cast or crew that I noticed.
I read (on either Leaky or DanRadcliffe.com) that Dan will be on The Today 
Show May 24, as well as the Conan O'Brian show May 25.  I was hoping he'd be on 
Good Morning America, since ABC showed Sorceror's Stone this past Sunday -- 
then he'd go to "Regis & Kelly" and "The View" on the same day (they're all in 
the same building and shoot live one after the other, as I understand it, so 
you often see guests going from one to the other on the same day, then Letterman 
that night).  Keeping my fingers crossed he does GMA too. . .(I'll force 
myself to watch "Today" to catch his interview, though!)  And are all our VCRs and 
Tivo machines set to record E! News Live tonight at 7 PM EDT?  They're doing 
a "First Look" at PoA.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Thu May 13 17:33:10 2004
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c7uo6q+jiuh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040513173310.5522.qmail@web42101.mail.yahoo.com>




--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Also, if she were British, I would say Tracey Ullman as Rita Skeeter
(although she may be too old for the part anyway, I'm not 
> sure how old she is now). 
> -Rebecca
Eustace_Scrubb <dk59us at yahoo.com> wrote:
As it happens, Tracey Ullman _is_ British; according to IMDB, she was
born on  30 December 1959 in Slough, Berkshire, England, UK.  So if
mid-40s isn't too old for Rita, you've got that role filled.  How old
is Rita?  I rather think some of her more outrageous outfits are an
attempt to look younger than she really is...

akh: Having just read the wand-weighing scene in the last day or two, Rita Skeeter refers to herself as 43.  I think we could spot Tracey a year, this time...

 


		
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From cherlouize at aol.com  Thu May 13 18:48:39 2004
From: cherlouize at aol.com (cherlouize at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:48:39 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]Casting Game
Message-ID: <77.295978c4.2dd51d07@aol.com>

I agree, Claudia Black would be good.  She can be pretty cold & intimidating 
- e.g., her Peacekeeper character in Farscape.  Not someone you'd want to mess 
with.  Of course, that was more of a detached ferocity, whereas Bellatrix is 
anything but detached.  <shrug>  I still think she's a good choice.
PAX, 
Cher

In a message dated 5/13/2004 6:21:51 AM Central Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I saw the pictures of Claudia Black and I think she seems perfect 
physically for the part of Bellatrix.



.~&@&~.~&@&~. Cherlouize .~&@&~.~&@&~.


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Thu May 13 21:51:04 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:51:04 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: ABC presentation
In-Reply-To: <c7tvk4+ahe3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIECECJCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>


  -----Original Message-----



  First they are growing up aren't they! But the things that got me
  was how excited they seemed about PoA, that they still are very
  enthusiastic about the project and that makes it more likely that
  they will stay and do the whole series. Also they seem to like each
  other, that they get along, another sign that they will stick for the
  long run.  >>

  Yes, it is amazing how much they have grown.  They are were so cute on SS,
and now they are
  turning into some great looking kids.  It is great that they all get along
so well.

    Loved Emma's story about Dan's "exposure" to fangirls. Poor kid, I
  hope they don't scar him for life! All in all I'm even more looking
  forward to PoA than before. >>

  I have heard this story a couple of times, and every time I hear about it
I think the same thing...
  "poor kid", because he was such a young kid back then.  He probably wasn't
even quite into
  girls back then and here his this girl naked in front of him.  It amazes
me what fans do!


  Kimberly *who just got her PoA poster book today!  :-)


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From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 01:16:49 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 01:16:49 -0000
Subject: Katie Leung as Cho Chang
Message-ID: <c816m1+jsnb@eGroups.com>

Just wanted to hear folks thoughts on this bit of (old) casting 
news...I'm personally pleased to see an unknown, but considering the 
profile of Asian actors in Hollywood, how could she be anything 
but. :-)

I like that she has a girl next door cuteness about her and not the 
waaaay too old for her character, sexiness that folks around other 
messageboards seem to want (she's a kid people!). :-)

There's already a site devoted to her (and her two paparazzi photos).

http://www.geocities.com/katieleungonline/

daughter @)--/----





From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 02:05:14 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:05:14 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <BCC755D1.977%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c819gq+tupr@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> 
> imamommy:
> 
> Does anyone but me not think that, while an incredible actor, Gary
> Oldman just doesn't have the, um, sex appeal for Sirius?  I know he
> starts off scraggly-looking, but I sort of thought they'd find 
someone
> who cleans up better.  I know, too late now!
> 
> I might've liked Colin Firth...
> 
> 
> I thought so at first, because I will admit I developed a fantasy 
crush on
> Sirius after reading the last 3 books! Something about that dark, 
brooding,
> bad boy thing...! Always makes a perfect mate in real life, 
right!?!   ;-)
> But I so admire Gary Oldman's acting, that I have faith that he 
will
> "become" Sirius. We'll have to wait 3 weeks to see!
> 
> bewitchedbyhp


Arrrgh!! 

I thought that by 21 days and counting 'til the premiere, this issue 
would be dead by now, but alas...It isn't.

Okay, for once and for all...



Gary Oldman is VERY sexy.

He cleans up VERY WELL.

And he fits the role of Sirius both physically (remember Rowling 
saying he had a doggish look to him in POA? How frightening shaggy 
and scary Sirius is??...I rest my case) and talent-wise.

If you disagree with any of these assessments, then (knowing good 
and well that I sound like a film-snob, nope not ashamed) you simply 
DO NOT know his work outside of his (close to) mainstream 
performances. :-)

I am too tired of female fans (because I've yet to hear a male fan 
say this) wanting their innaccurate fantasies to come alive 
onscreen, just because they happen to picture someone different from 
the author's OWN descriptions.

*stepping from soapbox and... done kicking horse's rotting carcass*

daughter @)---/----

P.S. Colin Firth would have been allll wrong. 
Sirius is scary, intense, brooding, and considering how frightened 
all of the wizarding and muggle-world seemed of his mugshot, 
probably looked like Charles Manson...Hence, the perfection that is 
the REALITY of Gary Oldman's casting (thank you, casting 
directors!). 

Gary IS Sirius...He already became him. :-)




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 14 02:23:39 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:23:39 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c819gq+tupr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c81ajb+rpob@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "daughterofthedust"
<daughterofthedust at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > imamommy:
> > 
> > Does anyone but me not think that, while an incredible actor, Gary
> > Oldman just doesn't have the, um, sex appeal for Sirius?  I know he
> > starts off scraggly-looking, but I sort of thought they'd find 
> someone
> > who cleans up better.  I know, too late now!
> > 
> > I might've liked Colin Firth...
> > 
> 
> Arrrgh!! 
> 
> I thought that by 21 days and counting 'til the premiere, this issue 
> would be dead by now, but alas...It isn't.
> 
> Okay, for once and for all...
> 
> 
> 
> Gary Oldman is VERY sexy.
> 
> He cleans up VERY WELL.
> 
> And he fits the role of Sirius both physically (remember Rowling 
> saying he had a doggish look to him in POA? How frightening shaggy 
> and scary Sirius is??...I rest my case) and talent-wise.
> 
> If you disagree with any of these assessments, then (knowing good 
> and well that I sound like a film-snob, nope not ashamed) you simply 
> DO NOT know his work outside of his (close to) mainstream 
> performances. :-)
> 
> I am too tired of female fans (because I've yet to hear a male fan 
> say this) wanting their innaccurate fantasies to come alive 
> onscreen, just because they happen to picture someone different from 
> the author's OWN descriptions.
> 
> *stepping from soapbox and... done kicking horse's rotting carcass*
> 
> daughter @)---/----
> 
> P.S. Colin Firth would have been allll wrong. 
> Sirius is scary, intense, brooding, and considering how frightened 
> all of the wizarding and muggle-world seemed of his mugshot, 
> probably looked like Charles Manson...Hence, the perfection that is 
> the REALITY of Gary Oldman's casting (thank you, casting 
> directors!). 
> 
> Gary IS Sirius...He already became him. :-)
imamommy:

I know it's all said and done.  And actually, I've seen quite a few of
his movies.  I do think he is an incredible actor.  I just don't see
him as being the former babe Sirius must have been (according to his
description in canon).  Yes, I know that was before 12 years of
torment.  I have seen Mr. Oldman in roles where he has been seductive
and passionate (Dracula and Immortal Beloved come to mind), he has
proved he can played intense, half-crazed murdering types (Air Force
One), he's shown ruthlessness and comedic timing (in Fifth Element). 
He definitely has the emotional range for this.  I did not mean to
discredit his acting.  I simply think his frame is different, his face
is different, than I had originally envisioned.  I am sure I will fall
in love with his performance.  The casting directors probably made the
best choice posssible.  I do think Colin Firth would have been able to
pull it off, though, based on some of his work that I've seen.  It's
neither here nor there at this point, I just wondered if anybody else
had had the same misgivings.  

imamommy




From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 02:47:17 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:47:17 -0000
Subject: Casting Game
Message-ID: <c81bvl+8pg4@eGroups.com>

 Madame Maxime...

 I know she's supposed to be British but for some reason...I keep 
picturing Toni Collete.

 




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Fri May 14 05:22:39 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 05:22:39 -0000
Subject: Casting of Sirius (Was The Casting Game)
In-Reply-To: <c81ajb+rpob@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c81l2v+kn0l@eGroups.com>

Ok I have to chime in here as Sirius and Remus are my absolute 
favorites - partially because according to Lexicon, I would have gone 
to school with them and partly because I just love their 
personalities. Now on to the casting thing. At first when I heard 
Gary Oldman as Sirius I thought no way - he's Dracula! But then I 
thought about it and yes I always thought of him as good looking but 
having been through hell of 12 years in Azkaban he would not be as he 
was as a teenager. I read or saw a JK interview where she mentioned 
that James, Sirius and Remus were good looking while in school. 
Well...that doesn't mean they are now and they had to be equivalent 
agewise - think JK said Snape was 35 in POA and Alan Rickman is in 
his 50s. So I knew the young British men were out - the ones in their 
20s and early 30s. Anyway, I think Gary Oldman can come across as 
nice looking when you clean him up a bit. He has absolutely gorgeous 
eyes. As for Colin Firth...nope could never picture him as Sirius. He 
looks too much of a boy scout to me. He doesn't have the look of a 
prankster/marauder. I do like his acting but once again I just don't 
see him as the Sirius type. Can't picture him enchanting a motorbike 
to fly. As for Gary, yes I can see him as a prankster. I have seen 
just about everything he has been in and recently even saw Nobody's 
Baby - he was a dork in that movie but he was funny and he has pretty 
eyes. (or did I already say that). If you want assurance that he can 
be sexy, watch Dracula again and especially the dinner scene with 
Winona Ryder. That was sexy.

I was actually more concerned about David Thewlis as he was not at 
all how I pictured Remus but I am sure he will do a brilliant job. I 
picture someone a tiny bit shorter.

I have high hopes for the two of them though because the trio spoke 
so highly of being in awe during the Shrieking Shack. I loved Dan's 
comment about having Gary Oldman, David Thewlis, Alan Rickman 
andTimothy Spall in the room so he would just let them do their thing 
and go be quiet in a corner.

Anyway, that's my 2 knuts on the Sirius casting.

Theresa
PS: Just for the record I went to my 20 year HS reunion a few years 
ago and some of the sexy guys were still nice looking but looked a 
little rough around the edges - and one has had a rough time with 
life since then (no prison time that I know of just bad luck) and he 
was not nearly as good looking as he had been but cleaned up to where 
you could tell it was still him.




From patientx3 at aol.com  Fri May 14 07:44:04 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 03:44:04 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <a3.591c5c29.2dd5d2c4@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:05:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
daughterofthedust at yahoo.com writes:

>>Gary IS Sirius...He already became him. :-)<<

As he does with all his parts, I could not imagine a better actor for Sirius. 
And you're right, I don't think I've heard any men complain about the 
casting. Personally, I always imagined Lupin being attractive in my head, and was 
upset about the casting (at first at least, from the trailers his performance 
looks fine), but I noticed there's NOTHING in the books to support my little 
image of him, so I've never complained about that aspect of the casting. Its the 
same way with Sirius, you can't complain that he's not good-looking enough when 
he's NOT SUPPOSED to be good-looking. 


-Rebecca (who's baffled that all these people have a crush on Sirius)


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From clshannon at aol.com  Fri May 14 08:26:47 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 04:26:47 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <1ed.209ffd3f.2dd5dcc7@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/14/04 12:52:45 AM, patientx3 at aol.com writes:


> Its the
> same way with Sirius, you can't complain that he's not good-looking enough 
> when
> he's NOT SUPPOSED to be good-looking.
> 
> 

Actually, although I love the casting of Oldman as Sirius, I thought I'd 
point out that in OOTP, Harry does describe the15 yr. old Sirius as very good 
looking.
It's in the Snape's Worst Memory chapter and Harry sees them in class taking 
their OWLS and this is the passage:

"Sirius was lounging in his chair at his ease, tilting it back on two legs. 
He was     very good-looking; his dark hair fell into his eyes with a sort of 
casual elegance neither James's nor Harry's could ever have achieved, and a 
girl sitting behind him was eyeing him hopefully, though he didn't seem to have 
noticed."


Anyway, I guess it boils down to whether or not one finds Oldman good looking 
- it's all subjective really. 
I am merely pointing out the bit from the book to dissuade the argument that 
Sirius isn't supposed to or was ever supposed to be good-looking. Obviously, 
Rowling meant for him to have been quite the looker while in school <g>

I think he is an excellent choice to play the role and I do think he's 
certainly good looking enough. After all, he was 'very good-looking' at 15, that was 
before he spent 12 years in a hellhole and got older. Both things leave their 
marks ;-)
Cindy


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From patientx3 at aol.com  Fri May 14 09:01:51 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 05:01:51 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Casting of Sirius (Was The Casting Game)
Message-ID: <1d2.20ed174b.2dd5e4ff@aol.com>

Cindy wrote:
>>I am merely pointing out the bit from the book to dissuade the argument 
that 
Sirius isn't supposed to or was ever supposed to be good-looking. Obviously, 
Rowling meant for him to have been quite the looker while in school <g><<

But that's while he was in school, when he was fifteen. I didn't say he was 
never good looking (which he certainly was, which was part of his 'cool-guy' 
status I suppose), but the adult Sirius isn't ever described that way (see 
below).

In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:52:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
anmsmom333 at cox.net writes:

>>I read or saw a JK interview where she mentioned 
that James, Sirius and Remus were good looking while in school. 
Well...that doesn't mean they are now<<

And that's exactly what I've been trying to say. I respect that everyone has 
a different mental image of the characters, but its not fair to blame the 
director/casting director etc. for the actor not fitting your image, especially if 
its not based from Canon. Its not just here that I've heard this, but on 
several other boards, and, personally, it seems like people have a strange idea of 
what Sirius looks like. 

[PoA - Chpt 2]
"Compared to the man on the television, however, whose gaunt face was 
surrounded by a matted, elbow-length tangle, Harry felt very well groomed indeed."

[Chpt 3]
"Stan had unfurled a copy of the Daily Prophet and was now reading with
his tongue between his teeth. A large photograph of a sunken-faced man
with long, matted hair blinked slowly at Harry from the front page."
....
"Harry looked into the shadowed eyes of Sirius Black, the only part of
the sunken face that seemed alive. Harry had never met a vampire, but he
had seen pictures of them in his Defense Against the Dark Arts classes,
and Black, with his waxy white skin, looked just like one."

[Chpt 17]
"A mass of filthy, matted hair hung to his elbows. If eyes hadn't been
shining out of the deep, dark sockets, he might have been a corpse. The
waxy skin was stretched so tightly over the bones of his face, it looked
like a skull. His yellow teeth were bared in a grin. It was Sirius
Black."

[Chpt 20]
"Black's gaunt face broke into the first true smile Harry had seen upon
it. The difference it made was startling, as though a person ten years
younger were shining through the starved mask; for a moment, he was
recognizable as the man who had laughed at Harry's parents' wedding."

[GoF - Chpt 20]
"Sirius looked different from Harry's memory of him. When they had said 
goodbye,
Sirius's face had been gaunt and sunken, surrounded by a quantity of long,
black, matted hair - but the hair was short and clean now, Sirius's face was 
fuller,
and he looked younger, much more like the only photograph Harry had of him,
which had been taken at the Potters' wedding."

[Chpt 27]
"Sirius was wearing ragged gray robes; the same ones he had been wearing when
he had left Azkaban. His black hair was longer than it had been when he had
appeared in the fire, and it was untidy and matted once more. He looked very 
thin."

[Chpt 36]
"Sirius was standing there. His face was white and gaunt as it had been when 
he had escaped Azkaban."

[OoP Chpt 22]
"Sirius was hurrying towards them all, looking anxious. He was unshaven and 
still in his day clothes; there was also a slightly Mundungus-like whiff of 
stale drink about him."

(the only other descriptions of him in OoP just mentioned him having long 
black hair)

I don't see one mention of him being anything like his old attractive self. 
Then again, when I was looking through the books I noticed that he never does 
get a chance to get back into good health. In GoF he's stressed about Harry's 
scar and the other odd things going on, and in OoP he's depressed and bitter 
(except for Christmastime, which of course doesn't have a description). There's 
just a brief period in GoF before he get's stressed, and then he's just 
'younger' not exactly gorgeous or even 'handsome'. The point in PoA is he's supposed 
to look nearly unrecognizable, according to PoA, Harry would have never 
guessed he was the same person in the wedding photo unless he knew it was the same 
person. In most of his movies he's playing the 'bad guy' so he's purposefully 
made up to look sort of repulsive or ugly. Again, I really think you should 
watch Rosencranzt and Guildenstern Are Dead, he looks fantastic in that (and it 
has a very young Tim Roth in it too).

My only criticism with how Sirius looks is that his hair is *far* too short. 
Does that bother anyone else? Honestly, would it have been that hard to put 
him in long tangled wig? The ratty hair is a *big* part of the SCARY!Sirius. 


-Rebecca


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Fri May 14 06:01:19 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:01:19 -0700
Subject: Free HP advanced screening tickets...
Message-ID: <002601c43978$e0acdb60$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

If you live in (or near) one of these cities you could score tickets to see POA on June 2!!
a.. http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/craveworthy/moviescreenings/
a.. Los Angeles 
a.. Philadelphia 
a.. San Francisco 
a.. Atlanta 
a.. Dallas 
a.. Chicago 
a.. San Diego 
a.. Boston 
a.. Miami 
a.. Denver


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri May 14 13:33:25 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:33:25 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] casting of Sirius
Message-ID: <1cd.20d9f8c3.2dd624a5@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:41:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
My only criticism with how Sirius looks is that his hair is *far* too short. 
Does that bother anyone else? Honestly, would it have been that hard to put 
him in long tangled wig? The ratty hair is a *big* part of the SCARY!Sirius. 

Yup, the hair and beard NOT being "elbow length" really shocked me!  As did 
the tattoos, but then I realized people in jail often get tattoos, and maybe it 
was part of his punishment to be "branded" that way, who knows?  Maybe he did 
it to himself.  I doubt there will be any explanation given of them, but it 
is curious that he has them.  I know that was Cuaron's idea, but I'd like to 
know what was behind that -- and behind the short hair and beard as well.

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From aiphmmw at yahoo.com  Fri May 14 12:39:39 2004
From: aiphmmw at yahoo.com (Nicole)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 12:39:39 -0000
Subject: Robbie Coltrane on Frasier
Message-ID: <c82emb+jt62@eGroups.com>

Hey Gang,

Sorry I missed posting this yesterday. Did anyone catch Robboe 
Coltrane on Frasier last night? He plays one of Daphne's Brothers.

My apologies for not posting it sooner. 

Nicole





From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Fri May 14 15:24:15 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:24:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <a3.591c5c29.2dd5d2c4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040514152415.87367.qmail@web80306.mail.yahoo.com>

About Gary Oldman for Sirius Black, I agree that I
would not have liked him for the role, had I read POA
first . . . but I sort of came to the books through
the movies, and so by the time I had worked my way
through the first two books and read POA, I had
already seen the Sirius Black "wanted" poster, so I
ended up picturing Sirius, while reading the book, as
Gary Oldman played him.

Gary Oldman is a very good actor.  He has played very
bad people in some movies I am very fond of (The Fifth
Element and The Professional come to mind), and I
really hated those characters.  I think he' s going to
be great as Sirius.   He's got the right bad-boy edge,
and I think he will clean up quite nicely.  He also
appears to have lost a bunch of weight for the role!

Gretchen

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From hermione81 at free.fr  Fri May 14 12:30:21 2004
From: hermione81 at free.fr (Hermione81)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:30:21 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Madame Maxime (was re: Casting Game)
In-Reply-To: <1084533401.2690.98830.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCCA887D.121F%hermione81@free.fr>

 
> Message: 8
>  Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 02:47:17 -0000
>  From: "daughterofthedust" <daughterofthedust at yahoo.com>
> Subject: re: Casting Game
> 
> Madame Maxime...
> 
> I know she's supposed to be British but for some reason...I keep
> picturing Toni Collete.
> 
> 
>


Actually, no, she's supposed to be......French, for 'eaven's sake!  :)
If they don't cast a French actress (and please, please, no more of those
ri-di-cu-lous rumours we've heard lately, the most hilarious of all being
Audrey Tautou being considered for the part ?yeah, right!), I swear I'll go
to the casting agents and hex the hell out of them. And then I'll start a
petition.  ;)

Mathilde, back after four or five months of list desertion and now taking
advantage of her early summer holidays to go back to serious business, such
as preparing Hermione t-shirts to wear under her Gryffindor hoodie at the
first PoA showing in Paris on June the 2nd




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Fri May 14 16:46:53 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 16:46:53 -0000
Subject: Harry pic
Message-ID: <c82t5t+bqf3@eGroups.com>

I don't know if y'all usually visit HPANA, but in case you don't I 
just wanted to share with you this gorgeous Harry portrait. (just 
hope this link'll work)

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289870874.html

Sophia






From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 14 19:32:58 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:32:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Robbie Coltrane on Frasier
References: <c82emb+jt62@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002801c439ea$466bb1d0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>




I saw it!  Doesn't he look so much smaller than Hagrid.  I know they make him much bigger
on HP, but it was weird seeing him "normal".  I liked how you could quite understand him. :-)
It was nice to see him outside of HP.

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nicole 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 7:39 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Robbie Coltrane on Frasier


  Hey Gang,

  Sorry I missed posting this yesterday. Did anyone catch Robboe 
  Coltrane on Frasier last night? He plays one of Daphne's Brothers.

  My apologies for not posting it sooner. 

  Nicole




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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 14 19:35:17 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 14:35:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic
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You are right... he is gorgeous in that photo!  ~Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:46 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic


  I don't know if y'all usually visit HPANA, but in case you don't I 
  just wanted to share with you this gorgeous Harry portrait. (just 
  hope this link'll work)

  http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289870874.html

  Sophia





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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Fri May 14 20:11:33 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 20:11:33 -0000
Subject: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <a3.591c5c29.2dd5d2c4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8395l+ma3g@eGroups.com>

I'll not bother trying to collect individual comments to reply to on 
this thread if you don't mind. I agree with those of you who had 
hankerings for a "handsomer" Sirius--I know where you're coming from. 
However, having said that I have NO misgivings about Gary Oldman 
playing the part, nosiree, not a single one! I am absolutely 
convinced that I and all the doubters will have been converted once 
the movie premiers. So what if he doesn't exactly "look" like your 
personal idea of Sirius? He can embody him all the same. My reason 
for saying so? I give you: Kenneth Branagh!!!! He wasn't even close 
to how I had imagined Gilderoy, but on screen he really WAS Gilderoy, 
every swaggering, incompetent inch of him. When I read the books I 
still see my Gilderoy, but as far as the movie goes, the casting was 
a stroke of genious and I have every confidence that we will not be 
disappointed this time either. All the casting has been superb. I am 
also confident I will like Gambon as Dumbledore even though I would 
have absolutely loved Derek Jacobi take over the part. Oh well... I 
defer humbly to the Harry Potter casting apparatus , I think they 
have been proven right every time so far in the casting, and I can't 
see why this time should be any different.

Sophia (confident of being completely and utterly delighted with PoA)




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 15 06:24:28 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:24:28 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Katie Leung as Cho Chang
In-Reply-To: <c816m1+jsnb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCCB2FDC.9DC%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: "daughterofthedust" <daughterofthedust at yahoo.com>

Just wanted to hear folks thoughts on this bit of (old) casting
news...
I like that she has a girl next door cuteness about her and not the
waaaay too old for her character, sexiness that folks around other
messageboards seem to want (she's a kid people!). :-)

From: bewitchedbyhp

She is cute. I wonder if the director will magnify the relationship between
Harry and Cho in the films? Doesn't it seem from the previews that Cuaron
really increased the relationship between Ron and Hermione? I don't seem to
recall Hermione grabbing Ron's hand, then pulling away, or her in his arms?
Seems to me there was a lot of fighting in POA, then that explosion in GOF
when Hermione yells at Ron for getting mad at her for going to the dance
with Krum. 
Don't get me wrong..I love a good romance, even if they do seem ill-matched,
personality-wise. (i.e. when she gets disgusted at Ron for eating like a
pig. I see her more compatible with Harry).
PS. And I can't wait to see the scene when Harry is in the Prefect bath,
being watched by Moaning Myrtle!! She's a trip. (I just watched COA tonight)



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 15 06:50:09 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:50:09 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c8395l+ma3g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCCB35E1.9DD%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Prior to the Oldman casting I imagined Sirius as good looking because of the
illustrations in the books. He has long hair, and that sharp nose. Actually
his hair in the drawings usually looks quite tame, not wild and crazy. So
maybe the drawings don't really match JKR's text?
Athough I LOVE the casting of Alan Rickman even though he looks nothing like
the canon drawings of Snape. Rickman IS Snape. And I'm sure Oldman will
become Sirius. 
I just hope that Gambon hasn't changed the part of Dumbledore too much
(based on the previews and the comments that the trio made in the ABC
Special). He seems to come off a lot stronger, whereas what I liked about
Harris was the "gentleness and the twinkling eyes" that he demonstrated,
particularly in his scenes with Harry.
Still...it's ALL good, and will June 4th ever get here!!!? I'm done with
May; let's get on with the show! 


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 15 07:01:16 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:01:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Madame Maxime (was re: Casting Game)
In-Reply-To: <BCCA887D.121F%hermione81@free.fr>
Message-ID: <BCCB387B.9E0%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: Hermione81 <hermione81 at free.fr>

If they don't cast a French actress (and please, please, no more of those
ri-di-cu-lous rumours we've heard lately, the most hilarious of all being
Audrey Tautou being considered for the part ?yeah, right!), I swear I'll go
to the casting agents and hex the hell out of them. And then I'll start a
petition.  ;)

Madame Maxime will be a tough one to cast. But Audrey Tautou?! No way!
Maxime's supposed to be huge and imposing. 'Course they can do that with
camera tricks as they do with Hagrid, but I hope they don't cast some skinny
young thing.  :-)
Has Fleur definitively been cast? Hope she's French too. Most folks can't
fake a good French accent.
bewitchedbyhp





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From patientx3 at aol.com  Sat May 15 07:15:37 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:15:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <c6.2c0c86e3.2dd71d99@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/15/2004 12:06:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:

>>Athough I LOVE the casting of Alan Rickman even though he looks nothing 
like
the canon drawings of Snape. Rickman IS Snape.<<

I completely agree! However, I saw the first movie before reading any of the 
books, so I wonder what those who had an image of Snape beforehand thought of 
him (anyone care to share?). I wonder if the casting department looked at him 
in Dogma and thought that seemed Snapeish (although I suppose they didn't, 
he's got a lot of other work to his name), his performance in that is almost the 
same, only not as cold. Sometimes, though, I worry that he made Snape's 
sarcasm a little too funny. Of course, that could just be perspective, when reading 
you are sort of living through Harry, so what happens to him happens to you in 
a way (if that makes sense), but its less personal watching it. I can enjoy 
and hate Snape at the same time.
I agree with the comment made earlier today about Kenneth Braughn [sic?] 
playing Lockhard too. I couldn't stand him in the book, but in the movie Kenneth 
Braughn's acting made him really funny.


-Rebecca


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 15 07:26:40 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:26:40 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic
In-Reply-To: <c82t5t+bqf3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCCB3E70.9E4%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

I don't know if y'all usually visit HPANA, but in case you don't I
just wanted to share with you this gorgeous Harry portrait. (just
hope this link'll work)

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289870874.html

Sophia

O.K. at the risk of ticking off the male readership..yes, he's growing into
quite a handsome teen!  :-)

Couple of questions/comments about the above-mentioned article:

"Columbus, who stayed on as a co-producer for this one, along with David
Heyman and Mark Radcliffe".
Radcliffe? Any relation to Dan?

Cuaron continues..."It's the moment when you realise that the monster is not
under the bed or in the closet, but inside you - and the only weapon to
fight that monster also resides inside you."
Awesome quote!

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban opens on June 10.
WHAAAT?!!! I hope that' s incorrect. I thought it was June 4th?!

I wish the media would quite harping on the teen-hormone thing with this new
movie. That was such a small part of the book, really.

bewitchedbyhp



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From clshannon at aol.com  Sat May 15 07:27:15 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:27:15 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic
Message-ID: <114.32c315e7.2dd72053@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/15/04 12:23:53 AM, valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:


> "Columbus, who stayed on as a co-producer for this one, along with David
> Heyman and Mark Radcliffe".
> Radcliffe? Any relation to Dan?
> 

Nope, Mark Radcliffe is an American from Oklahoma who is Chris Columbus' 
business partner. They've worked together on other films. It's just a strange 
coincidence that he shares a last name with Dan ;-)
And I agree about that photo - he is sure growing up nicely ;-) 
Cindy


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From lisa_croke at yahoo.com.au  Sat May 15 08:27:14 2004
From: lisa_croke at yahoo.com.au (Lisa Croke)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:27:14 -0000
Subject: Harry pic
In-Reply-To: <BCCB3E70.9E4%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c84k92+lpc3@eGroups.com>

It comes out June 10 here in Australia.  Go to www.imdb.com and I 
think they have a list of release dates there for various countries.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> I don't know if y'all usually visit HPANA, but in case you don't I
> just wanted to share with you this gorgeous Harry portrait. (just
> hope this link'll work)
> 
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289870874.html
> 
> Sophia
> 
> O.K. at the risk of ticking off the male readership..yes, he's 
growing into
> quite a handsome teen!  :-)
> 
> Couple of questions/comments about the above-mentioned article:
> 
> "Columbus, who stayed on as a co-producer for this one, along with 
David
> Heyman and Mark Radcliffe".
> Radcliffe? Any relation to Dan?
> 
> Cuaron continues..."It's the moment when you realise that the 
monster is not
> under the bed or in the closet, but inside you - and the only 
weapon to
> fight that monster also resides inside you."
> Awesome quote!
> 
> Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban opens on June 10.
> WHAAAT?!!! I hope that' s incorrect. I thought it was June 4th?!
> 
> I wish the media would quite harping on the teen-hormone thing 
with this new
> movie. That was such a small part of the book, really.
> 
> bewitchedbyhp
> 
> 
> 
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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Sat May 15 09:06:20 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 02:06:20 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic
References: <BCCB3E70.9E4%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <00ea01c43a5b$e40e64c0$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

bewitchedbyhp wrote:

<I wish the media would quite harping on the
teen-hormone thing with this new
movie. That was such a small part of the
book, really.>

I think they're harping on it more because
PoA is the start of Harry growing up, and
being a teen means hormones come into play.
In book (as well as movies) one and two we
don't see it because it hasn't really
started, but in this one they do.  Plus they
need a new angle to harp on every year, last
year was it was "darker" and they can't use
it every year because even thought he books
and movies do get darker as each one comes,
it would get boring.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From patientx3 at aol.com  Sat May 15 10:59:03 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 06:59:03 EDT
Subject: TV Spots
Message-ID: <1d5.21593f20.2dd751f7@aol.com>

Everyone keep an eye out for PoA spots, there are about 3 or 4 different ones 
that I've seen so far. I haven't seen any during prime-time, but I've seen at 
least one a day during the 5-8 hours (I've been taping WB every day with 
hopes of catching one).

Last night there was one that showed Stan Shunpike saying the 'he's a 
murderer' line (the one overdubbed over Hermione grabbing Ron's wrist). Another one 
has Harry eating a pepper-imp, and there's one with Hermione/Harry being hit by 
the whomping willow (which, by the way, looks A LOT better than it did in 
CoS, the willow in CoS looked *nothing* like a willow to me).


-Rebecca 
PS. I bought the PoA poster book the other day, I've seen most of the 
pictures before, but the quality was ten times better. I just wish I wasn't too old 
to put the posters to use....


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From celticangel at thebuffysite.com  Sat May 15 14:20:28 2004
From: celticangel at thebuffysite.com (celticangel1976)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:20:28 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Challenge
Message-ID: <c858vc+pqtu@eGroups.com>

I've been a Snape fan since I read the first book, which was before 
the movie.  I generally go for those types of characters anyway.  
Much more interesting to me.  Rickman IS my Snape.  I never went 
with the drawings in the books (the US books) because JKR had 
nothing to do with those.  They were done by someone the publishing 
company found or something.  Can't remember where I read this, it's 
been ages ago.  And the drawing Snape doesn't really go with canon 
Snape much if you ask me.  But when I heard Rickman was going to be 
Snape in the movies I couldn't have been happier.  I think his 
snarkiness is funny in the books.  It's a dry humor that if you're 
on the receiving end of you wouldn't find funny at all, so I can see 
how/why Harry reacts like he does to it.

I'm not sure who I pictured as Sirius, but Oldman is perfect.  I 
find Oldman to be attractive so really whether or not he's "good 
looking" enough is all in the eye of the beholder.  Only one I 
wasn't sure about was Lupin, though David Thewlis is growing on me 
and I think he'll do a wonderful job.  Well then there's Gambon...I 
just don't know.  Harris WAS my Dumbledore to a T so this will be 
hard for me to get used to.  But I'm reserving judgement for the 
movie.  And I'm sure he'll do a wonderful job regardless of whether 
or not he meets my visual of the character.

CelticAngel
(newbie who's been lurking for a while)

 






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat May 15 14:53:04 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:53:04 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c6.2c0c86e3.2dd71d99@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c43a8c$54502ef0$0400a8c0@pensive>

When I first heard that Alan Rickman had been cast as Snape I was thrilled.
I had read the books first.  The thing that I thought was perfect about him
for the role is his voice.  If there was ever an actor who had a voice that
coincides with the descriptions of Snape's voice and manner of speaking, it
is Rickman.  

Sherry


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In a message dated 5/15/2004 12:06:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:

>>Athough I LOVE the casting of Alan Rickman even though he looks nothing 
like
the canon drawings of Snape. Rickman IS Snape.<<

I completely agree! However, I saw the first movie before reading any of the

books, so I wonder what those who had an image of Snape beforehand thought
of 
him (anyone care to share?). I wonder if the casting department looked at
him 
in Dogma and thought that seemed Snapeish (although I suppose they didn't, 
he's got a lot of other work to his name), his performance in that is almost
the 
same, only not as cold. Sometimes, though, I worry that he made Snape's 
sarcasm a little too funny. Of course, that could just be perspective, when
reading 
you are sort of living through Harry, so what happens to him happens to you
in 
a way (if that makes sense), but its less personal watching it. I can enjoy 
and hate Snape at the same time.
I agree with the comment made earlier today about Kenneth Braughn [sic?] 
playing Lockhard too. I couldn't stand him in the book, but in the movie
Kenneth 
Braughn's acting made him really funny.


-Rebecca


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From celticangel at thebuffysite.com  Sat May 15 16:13:04 2004
From: celticangel at thebuffysite.com (celticangel1976)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:13:04 -0000
Subject: SomethingWicked This Way Comes
Message-ID: <c85fig+rguj@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know if this song is available for download anywhere?  I 
could have sworn I saw a clip of it somewhere but can't find it now.

Thanks,
CelticAngel




From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Sat May 15 15:13:17 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:13:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
References: <000c01c43a8c$54502ef0$0400a8c0@pensive>
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-Rebecca

I completely agree! However, I saw the first movie before reading any of
thebooks, so I wonder what those who had an image of Snape beforehand
thought of
him (anyone care to share?).


Silverthorne

Well, to be honest, what I envisioned the book Snape as in looks is a lot
closer to how they made up Brad Dorif for his role as Grima Wormtongue in
LOTR...in fact, thats almost exactly how I pictured book Snape (although I
have to admit, I did give mine eyebrows...lol).

I *do* like Rickman as Snape (we won't go into drooling fangirl reasons
though...those can speak for themselves), but I know a lot of people think
Rickmans plays him too...um...'soft'....and that's where I disagree.

Although Rickman doesn't look like book Snape, he has the attitude and the
poise down perfectly IMHO....although he may not seem as 'over the top' as
book Snape, I think that's actaully a good thing---Lockhart *should* be over
the top, by comparison--that's a major part of the character in whole.
Everything about Lockhart is a glaring act, and he suppsoed to get
noticed...

But Snape is meant to be more...unknown and shadowy, cruel, hard to read,
yadda yadda yadda...

Point is, if Rickman took that act over the top in the movie, Snape would be
nothing more than a cariacture--and a goofy one at that (yes, an actor can
be *so* snarky and mean that he actaully come across as 'goofy'' and
something to laugh at instead of feeling trepadation when the character
makes an appearance. Take, the Sheriff of Nottingham for instance--also
played by Rickman. THAT character operates at about the same emotional level
as book Snape....and as I recall, I laughed more than cringed at
him...*g*...)...sometimes, in the movies, less is more...






From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sat May 15 17:29:33 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 11:29:33 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <000d01c43a8f$26cb2b80$05030f04@dslverizon.net>
Message-ID: <000301c43aa2$306588d0$0400a8c0@pensive>

Yes, I think Rickman has a coldness in the way he plays the role that really
comes off as I would picture Snape.  We'll see in the new movie, because in
the shrieking shack scene, there are moments in the book, when Snape shrieks
and yells and such thing.  Hard to picture Alan Rickman shrieking!

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Silverthorne [mailto:silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:13 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game


-Rebecca

I completely agree! However, I saw the first movie before reading any of
thebooks, so I wonder what those who had an image of Snape beforehand
thought of
him (anyone care to share?).


Silverthorne

Well, to be honest, what I envisioned the book Snape as in looks is a lot
closer to how they made up Brad Dorif for his role as Grima Wormtongue in
LOTR...in fact, thats almost exactly how I pictured book Snape (although I
have to admit, I did give mine eyebrows...lol).

I *do* like Rickman as Snape (we won't go into drooling fangirl reasons
though...those can speak for themselves), but I know a lot of people think
Rickmans plays him too...um...'soft'....and that's where I disagree.

Although Rickman doesn't look like book Snape, he has the attitude and the
poise down perfectly IMHO....although he may not seem as 'over the top' as
book Snape, I think that's actaully a good thing---Lockhart *should* be over
the top, by comparison--that's a major part of the character in whole.
Everything about Lockhart is a glaring act, and he suppsoed to get
noticed...

But Snape is meant to be more...unknown and shadowy, cruel, hard to read,
yadda yadda yadda...

Point is, if Rickman took that act over the top in the movie, Snape would be
nothing more than a cariacture--and a goofy one at that (yes, an actor can
be *so* snarky and mean that he actaully come across as 'goofy'' and
something to laugh at instead of feeling trepadation when the character
makes an appearance. Take, the Sheriff of Nottingham for instance--also
played by Rickman. THAT character operates at about the same emotional level
as book Snape....and as I recall, I laughed more than cringed at
him...*g*...)...sometimes, in the movies, less is more...






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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May 15 21:28:35 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:28:35 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Spots
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I've seen several different ones, Rebecca.  The best ones seem to be on the WB channel
itself, but I think my favorite so far is the one where they show Harry blow smoke out of his
ears when he is having what looks like a party with Ron and the Weasley twins.  They will
probably show a couple of clips for PoA tonight while they replay SS on ABC.

Kimberly
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  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Spots


  Everyone keep an eye out for PoA spots, there are about 3 or 4 different ones 
  that I've seen so far. I haven't seen any during prime-time, but I've seen at 
  least one a day during the 5-8 hours (I've been taping WB every day with 
  hopes of catching one).

  Last night there was one that showed Stan Shunpike saying the 'he's a 
  murderer' line (the one overdubbed over Hermione grabbing Ron's wrist). Another one 
  has Harry eating a pepper-imp, and there's one with Hermione/Harry being hit by 
  the whomping willow (which, by the way, looks A LOT better than it did in 
  CoS, the willow in CoS looked *nothing* like a willow to me).


  -Rebecca 
  PS. I bought the PoA poster book the other day, I've seen most of the 
  pictures before, but the quality was ten times better. I just wish I wasn't too old 
  to put the posters to use....


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May 15 21:35:19 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:35:19 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Challenge
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  ----- Original Message ----- 


  I'm not sure who I pictured as Sirius, but Oldman is perfect.  I 
  find Oldman to be attractive so really whether or not he's "good 
  looking" enough is all in the eye of the beholder.  Only one I 
  wasn't sure about was Lupin, though David Thewlis is growing on me 
  and I think he'll do a wonderful job.  Well then there's Gambon...I 
  just don't know.  Harris WAS my Dumbledore to a T so this will be 
  hard for me to get used to.  But I'm reserving judgement for the 
  movie.  And I'm sure he'll do a wonderful job regardless of whether 
  or not he meets my visual of the character.>>


  Gambon is going to be hard for me too.  Like you, Harris just fit the role perfectly
  right down to the twinkle in his eyes, but I'll wait to see the movie to see if I will like
  him as much.  I have good comments about him, so I am thinking he'll be fine. :-)
  Kimberly



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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May 15 21:55:50 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:55:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Katie Leung as Cho Chang
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  ----- Original Message ----- 


  From: bewitchedbyhp

  She is cute. I wonder if the director will magnify the relationship between
  Harry and Cho in the films? Doesn't it seem from the previews that Cuaron
  really increased the relationship between Ron and Hermione? I don't seem to
  recall Hermione grabbing Ron's hand, then pulling away, or her in his arms?
  Seems to me there was a lot of fighting in POA, then that explosion in GOF
  when Hermione yells at Ron for getting mad at her for going to the dance
  with Krum. >>

  Gosh, I hope the new director does not magnify the relationship between Harry and Cho, because personally,
  I could not stand Cho in the books!  It seems that Cuaron has increased the relationship between not
  only Ron and Hermione, but with Harry and Hermione too.  She just seems to be holding onto both of them
  a lot, but of course, that is all through trailers so maybe it is not like that in the movie.  I remember Hermione
  fighting a lot during both books, PoA and GoF, which I just got done reading again, but in GoF, it was more
  about Ron's jealousy.  
  Don't get me wrong..I love a good romance, even if they do seem ill-matched,
  personality-wise. (i.e. when she gets disgusted at Ron for eating like a
  pig. I see her more compatible with Harry).>>
  See, I think the same way! I just see Hermione and Harry together.  Now someone
  on the book list said that is just getting the chemistry of the two actors on
  the movies mixed up with the real characters in the book.  Maybe they are right,
  but when I read the books, Hermione reminds me of Lily, Harry's mother, and therefore
  I could see him falling in love with her in the end.  Kind of like how James fell in
  love with Lily... Like father, like son... James' friends are always saying how Harry
  is a lot like his dad.  I could maybe see Ron as Hermione's first boyfriend, but 
  not in the long run.  Of course, that is just my opinion and I know that is a big
  debate among some fans.  I just keep reminding myself that this is not a romance
  novel. LOL! 

  PS. And I can't wait to see the scene when Harry is in the Prefect bath,
  being watched by Moaning Myrtle!! She's a trip. (I just watched COA tonight)>>

  I can't wait unitl GoF, period!  It is by far my favorite book of the series!!!  I decided to re-read PoA, and of course,
  I had to go right into GoF too.  I forget how much I actually love that book.  I am re-reading the OotP again now, but
  my mind keeps thinking about GoF.  I can't wait for all the tasks and the Yule ball.  I am curious as to who they
  are going to cast for Cedric.  
  Kimberly




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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Sat May 15 22:06:19 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry pic
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Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net> wrote:
IMark Radcliffe".
Radcliffe? Any relation to Dan?
No, coincidence.
Cuaron continues..."It's the moment when you realise that the monster is not
under the bed or in the closet, but inside you - and the only weapon to
fight that monster also resides inside you."
Awesome quote!

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban opens on June 10.
WHAAAT?!!! I hope that' s incorrect. I thought it was June 4th?!

I believe that's in Australia.

 

Gretchen



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From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Sat May 15 19:47:27 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 19:47:27 -0000
Subject: SomethingWicked This Way Comes
In-Reply-To: <c85fig+rguj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c85s4f+bi97@eGroups.com>


  The whole CD is online at:

 http://mp.aol.com/dalaillama/speed.adp?url=%2fdalaillama%2faudio%
2eindex%2eadp%3fmxid%3d1134931%26%5fAOLFORM%3dw604%2eh305%2ep7%2eR37%
26speed%3dbb

  (If the above does not paste correctly, go to www.mugglenet.com and 
look under the heading of "PoA soundtrack online" about six articles 
down.)

  Brian:-)
  

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "celticangel1976" 
<celticangel at t...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if this song is available for download anywhere?  
I 
> could have sworn I saw a clip of it somewhere but can't find it now.
> 
> Thanks,
> CelticAngel




From clshannon at aol.com  Sun May 16 03:23:43 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 23:23:43 EDT
Subject: ABC's rebroadcast tonight
Message-ID: <46.4e549ed1.2dd838bf@aol.com>

Well, not only did they not include all the special features, as I figured 
given the 3 hour timeslot instead of 4 like last week...but they also trimmed 
the movie! Yikes. Even with 3 hours, they have to cut things out - shudder ;-(
It's still near the beginning here in California, but so far I have noticed 
trims at the Dursleys when all the letters are flying around and Vernon grabs 
Harry. They cut Harry's line and also Dudley's line about Vernon going insane.
It's a shame, but I knew they weren't going to repeat the same exact show as 
last week because of the shorter time slot, but still....even trimming the 
movie. Shame on them ;-)
Of course, I know it's because the movie is long and they have to have room 
for commercials, but it still stinks.
The only reason to watch tonight is to maybe catch a trailer or two during 
the commercial breaks - has anyone caught any in the time zones that are later?

I do feel bad for anyone who missed the 4 hour special last week though ;-(
Cindy


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From kailincj at msn.com  Sun May 16 04:33:57 2004
From: kailincj at msn.com (Gwen)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 04:33:57 -0000
Subject: ABC's rebroadcast tonight
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Message-ID: <c86qvl+aj7r@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote:
> Well, not only did they not include all the special features, as I 
> figured given the 3 hour timeslot instead of 4 like last week...but 
> they also trimmed the movie! Yikes. Even with 3 hours, they have to 
> cut things out - shudder ;-(
<snip>

I couldn't stand it.  By the time they got to the hut on the rock, 
I'd turned it off and tossed COS into the DVD player.  Thank 
goodness I'd taped the 4 hour thing last Sunday...

Kailin





From JessaDrow at aol.com  Sun May 16 10:20:44 2004
From: JessaDrow at aol.com (JessaDrow at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 06:20:44 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: ABC's rebroadcast tonight
Message-ID: <1aa.2406576d.2dd89a7c@aol.com>

I found the whole thing annoying, we had taped it last week, but hadn't had a 
chance to watch it yet. We've got like twelve hours in tapes to watch, 
(including A wrinkle in time). *groans* So when they reran COS, I thought it was a 
chance to get it over with. Took me till 10:30, and being half asleep, to 
realize that this wasn't anything near what I expected. What a rip off!

Faith

In a message dated 5/16/2004 12:52:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kailincj at msn.com writes:
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote:
> Well, not only did they not include all the special features, as I 
> figured given the 3 hour timeslot instead of 4 like last week...but 
> they also trimmed the movie! Yikes. Even with 3 hours, they have to 
> cut things out - shudder ;-(
<snip>

I couldn't stand it.  By the time they got to the hut on the rock, 
I'd turned it off and tossed COS into the DVD player.  Thank 
goodness I'd taped the 4 hour thing last Sunday...

Kailin


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From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 16 14:58:18 2004
From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:58:18 -0000
Subject: Translation of this week's 7 Extra HP Feature (longish)
Message-ID: <c87via+egkk@eGroups.com>

Since every HP website in existence seems busy with deciphering JKR's 
website, I made a rough translation (disclaimer: my mother tongue is 
neither English nor French, so I may have committed some grammar 
errors) of the interview with Gary Oldman in the Belgian magazine 7 
Extra. (as a fan of both Oldman and Sirius, I was rather pleased with 
his comparing Sirius to Shakespeare's heroes). The original scan is 
here:

http://users.skynet.be/jfh/7extra1.html

(TLC has the previous one with Robbie Coltrane, and the next issue 
will feature Rupert Grint.)



In 21 days, you'll finally see Gary Oldman, alias Sirius Black, in 
action!

Among the new persons to give life to Harry Potter and the Prisoner 
of Azkaban with their presence, there is one who has been especially 
awaited by the majority of the Potterfans. We are talking about the 
disquieting Sirius Black, interpreted by Gary Oldman, who has been 
seen in The Fifth Element or L?on (The Professional). Convinced of 
his future impact, 7 Extra invites him to speak.

Harry Potter according to Sirius Black

Q: Were you aware of the HP phenomenon before you became a part of 
the adventure?

A:  Well, I have three children who love Harry Potter. Difficult to 
pretend to be ignorant in that case. Moreover, Harry Potter is 
everywhere. Wherever you go, you'll see Harry Potter socks, Harry 
Potter toothpaste
 The logo is really everywhere in the stores. My 
oldest son, who is fifteen years, has read the books, the two others 
are a bit too young but they adored the first two films.

Q: Why did you accept the part?

A: I haven't been working for two years and I thought it would be 
nice to get back to the job. A project like this also carries a 
certain prestige. Making Harry Potter isn't like making just any 
film. It's like joining a large cinema family. The script was good, 
the director was interesting, and it is fun to act in a film that my 
children can discover, saying, "Look, there's Dad together with Harry 
Potter."

The Miracle Remedy
"The HP books are a great antidote against game consoles"

Q: Do you think the films enhance the books?

A: Certainly. It was like that for the two first ones, and that'll be 
the case for Prisoner of Azkaban. To get back to the books, I'm happy 
that someone, J K Rowling in this case, has successfully invented all 
of this and that young people re-read it again and again. I applaud 
everything that can keep a kid away from a Playstation or a Gameboy. 
Frankly, it's a miracle.

Q: Are you going to be a part of the next cast?

A: Yes.

"Harry, Ron, and Hermione have been redesigned to look more modern"
 
Q: How much did you immerse yourself in the creation of Sirius?

A: Alfonso Cuar?n, the director, had a heap of ideas. We tried on 
several varieties of the costume. I thought it shouldn't be anything 
too distracting, since Sirius Black has a lot of energy and spirit. I 
had to get back in costume and make a photo session for the film, and 
I had a moustache and this hairdo. The look Alfonso gave to Peter 
Pettigrew, Professor Lupin, Sirius Black and James Potters strongly 
reminds of the four Beatles of the hippie era. Like them, we all have 
long hair, for instance. In contrast to that, he made Harry, Ron, and 
Hermione much more contemporary in their looks and general attitude.

Q: Everyone who has devoured the books has to have a quite precise 
vision of Sirius. Knowing this, is it easy to incarnate such a 
character?

A: It is a little like playing a classical hero like the ones in 
Shakespeare. Everyone has a certain image of Romeo and Juliet or of 
Hamlet in their heads. As the actor, you'll then have to invest the 
character by giving him a level of humanity and realism. Of course 
you'll always find someone who'll say that you aren't this or that. I 
was made aware of the fact that the person you are in private is at 
times a hundred miles away from your public image. Recently, I met a 
child who said to me, "I never thought you were like that. I thought 
you were paler." All because I'm often rather pallid in my films. 


Next week: Rupert Grint, in other words the redhead Ron, delivers 
more secrets to you.

Translated by Alshain






From origamiwizard at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 15:52:55 2004
From: origamiwizard at yahoo.com (origamiwizard)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:52:55 -0000
Subject: ABC's rebroadcast tonight
In-Reply-To: <c86qvl+aj7r@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c882on+5glt@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Gwen" <kailincj at m...> wrote: 
> I couldn't stand it.  By the time they got to the hut on the rock, 
> I'd turned it off and tossed COS into the DVD player.  Thank 
> goodness I'd taped the 4 hour thing last Sunday...

Same here! My disgust did not even make it as far as the hut on the 
rock though. 

I was hoping that they would keep at least a few of the extras in, 
but after I noticed the first cut in the kitchen,  I thought, "Oh 
no . . ."  By the time of Harry's letters, I had given up and given 
the remote over to my husband. (Who--bless his heart--tried his best 
to hide his relief at not having the watch HPSS yet AGAIN.) 

What a total disappointment that was.  




From teilani2002 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 17:16:49 2004
From: teilani2002 at yahoo.com (Susan)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:16:49 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <BCCB35E1.9DD%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c887m1+39le@eGroups.com>

---  Valerie Flowe wrote:
> Prior to the Oldman casting I imagined Sirius as good looking 
because of the
> illustrations in the books. He has long hair, and that sharp nose. 
Actually
> his hair in the drawings usually looks quite tame, not wild and 
crazy. So
> maybe the drawings don't really match JKR's text?
> Athough I LOVE the casting of Alan Rickman even though he looks 
nothing like
> the canon drawings of Snape. Rickman IS Snape. And I'm sure Oldman 
will
> become Sirius.
 
Hey all, new to the movie group, but not so new in the book group.  
Anyways, re: Oldman as Sirius.  I understand that Oldman is a good 
actor, but according to JKR, Sirius is supposed to be drop dead 
gorgeous. 
>Alix wrote (in HPFGU books):
>I thought it
was now or never and just said 'Sirius Black is meant to be dead 
sexy, isn't
he?'. It was so funny - she looked at me as if she was pleasantly 
surprised
to see friendly faces in amongst all the press hounds - she obviously 
was
expecting questions about the money, the next books, yadda yadda 
yadda, not
a fan question - then she smiled and said 'Yes.' RESULT!!!!

 Gerard Butler, also from the UK, actually IS hot.  Anyways, I'm just 
really annoyed that Oldman is playing Sirius.  There are plenty of 
*hot* UK actors that they could have cast in that role, and I'm 
really worried that it's going to affect my appreciation of the next 
three movies.  
 http://www.gerardbutler.net/gallery.htm
I agree that Alan Rickman was/is a perfect choice for Snape, and I 
too will miss Harris, but why Oldman?  Does anyone know who else 
tried to get the role?





From hmkinney at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 18:59:45 2004
From: hmkinney at yahoo.com (Heather)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:59:45 -0000
Subject: What canon Snape should look like
Message-ID: <c88dn1+73bm@eGroups.com>

I've noticed people saying what they think Snape should look like in 
their mind versus Rickman's Snape and the drawings of Snape in the 
various books. Have you all seen this? It's a drawing done by JKR 
herself of how she envisions Snape. This was on that special from 
several years ago on the Biography channel, I believe. Harry Potter 
and Me, I think it was called. It's been repeated several times since 
the original airing. I guess it was on A&E in their Biography channel 
segment. Anyway, I am babbling. This should clear up what canon Snape 
should look like. We can still all have our own visions of him. This 
is just the author's vision of him.

http://www.designerpotions.com/ss/ssjkrsnapedrawing.html

-Heather





From patientx3 at aol.com  Sun May 16 19:41:28 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:41:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
Message-ID: <15c.34abb207.2dd91de8@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/16/2004 11:28:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
teilani2002 at yahoo.com writes:

>>Hey all, new to the movie group, but not so new in the book group.  
Anyways, re: Oldman as Sirius.  I understand that Oldman is a good 
actor, but according to JKR, Sirius is supposed to be drop dead 
gorgeous. <<

Firstly, you can't be sure if she's referring to Sirius of the past (in 
school and the few years between that and Azkaban) who is quite good looking, or 
the older Sirius who she herself describes as both looking like a vampire and 
looking like a corpse in PoA. Also, since I *only* read the books before OotP 
came out and I got involved in fandom, the Sirius I had in my head was *only* 
from those descriptions and that didn't involve anyone "gorgeous" (for a list of 
Sirius description references look upthread, there was a list posted about 
two days ago). 
Anyway, would you rather have someone "hot" playing the role, or someone 
who's a good actor? (not saying that the other actors you're thinking of are 
'bad', just that if you look at Gary Oldman's work, you'll see he's a fantastic 
actor). It worries me that so many people are worried about what Sirius *looks* 
like, when there is so much more to him than that. Personally, he's my favorite 
character, and after I heard who was cast to play him, I went and watched a 
bunch of Gary Oldman movies and became convinced that he was perfect for the 
role. He has the intensity that Sirius has (and he has dark hair and he's 
british and thin, so he fits the description good enough for me). As for other 
casting, I haven't heard of anyone else being considered for the role.
You're entitled to your opinion and all that (and if you're determined to 
hate the casting, then you will), but at least wait till the movie comes out and 
complain about something more than just what he looks like. 


-Some quotes about Gary Oldman as Sirius:
(this is from a set visit posted back in November, I can find the link if you 
want it)
"We were told, that Gary Oldmans scenes were so intense (simply because of 
the mans talent) that as many cast and crew, when they were able to, went to 
watch as many scenes as they could, he gave 200% for everything, I was told and 
blew them away everytime, so I think we should all congratulate the casting 
people for this choice."

(from the sidebar on the recent Cuaron interview in premiere magazine)
"We needed someone who would be iconic, [at first] you only see Sirius Black 
in posters, and Gary's face alone is so powerful; then once you reveal him, he 
cannot disappoint.Gary gives a whole dramatic twist to his character and goes 
into a very beautiful, pure, emotional place."


-Rebecca


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From teilani2002 at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 20:05:14 2004
From: teilani2002 at yahoo.com (Susan)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:05:14 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <15c.34abb207.2dd91de8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c88hhq+apbg@eGroups.com>

---  
> teilani2002 at y... writes:
> 
> >>Hey all, new to the movie group, but not so new in the book 
group.  
> Anyways, re: Oldman as Sirius.  I understand that Oldman is a good 
> actor, but according to JKR, Sirius is supposed to be drop dead 
> gorgeous. <<
> 
>Rebecca wrote:
 Firstly, you can't be sure if she's referring to Sirius of the past 
(in 
> school and the few years between that and Azkaban) who is quite 
good looking, or 
> the older Sirius who she herself describes as both looking like a 
vampire and 
> looking like a corpse in PoA. Also, since I *only* read the books 
before OotP 
> came out and I got involved in fandom, the Sirius I had in my head 
was *only* 
> from those descriptions and that didn't involve anyone "gorgeous" 
(for a list of 
> Sirius description references look upthread, there was a list 
posted about 
> two days ago). 
> Anyway, would you rather have someone "hot" playing the role, or 
someone 
> who's a good actor? (not saying that the other actors you're 
thinking of are 
> 'bad', just that if you look at Gary Oldman's work, you'll see he's 
a fantastic 
> actor). It worries me that so many people are worried about what 
Sirius *looks* 
> like, when there is so much more to him than that. Personally, he's 
my favorite 
> character, and after I heard who was cast to play him, I went and 
watched a 
> bunch of Gary Oldman movies and became convinced that he was 
perfect for the 
> role. He has the intensity that Sirius has (and he has dark hair 
and he's 
> british and thin, so he fits the description good enough for me). 
As for other 
> casting, I haven't heard of anyone else being considered for the 
role.
> You're entitled to your opinion and all that (and if you're 
determined to 
> hate the casting, then you will), but at least wait till the movie 
comes out and 
> complain about something more than just what he looks like. 
> 
> 
Hey, I'm actually a huge movie buff and do think Gary Oldman is an 
excellent actor.  And yeah, JKR was probably talking about the young 
Sirius Black rather than the older one.  I read a lot as well, and 
it's usually difficult for me to read the book and then watch the 
movie, b/c you know, other people's visions can rarely meet up to 
your own imagination, and besides which, movies always have to leave 
stuff out, reposition stuff, etc.  I read, then reread Shogun, which 
was really excellent, then watched the *unbelievably* bad mini-
series.  The only movie I can think of off hand that's better than 
the book (imho) is Gone With the Wind.

Sorry to get OT there.  Just wanted to say that I do know Oldman's a 
great actor. The unfortunate thing is that I don't find him very 
attractive.  Even when he was Dracula, who's supposed to be hot and 
charismatic, etc., while I did love the movie, and his performance, 
he still wasn't my cup of tea.  And the guy I mentioned before, 
Greard Butler, actually played Dracula in Dracula 2000.  Now, I know 
Dracula 2000 wasn't as good as the one based on the book, but the 
guy's just cuter, imho.

I knew I'd get some flack for writing that because Oldman is a great 
actor, but I know so many people that agree with me, and they're 
movie fans as well, that I thought I'd throw that out there.  And I'd 
still like to know who else tried for the part.

Sorry about not looking up stuff in the archives.  I haven't really 
gotten a handle on that yet :-0
Susan (teilani)





From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 17 01:34:14 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 21:34:14 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sirius:  The casting game
Message-ID: <88.b1e0386.2dd97096@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/16/2004 6:45:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
When I first heard that Alan Rickman had been cast as Snape I was thrilled.
I had read the books first.  The thing that I thought was perfect about him
for the role is his voice.  If there was ever an actor who had a voice that
coincides with the descriptions of Snape's voice and manner of speaking, it
is Rickman.  

Sherry

For me, it was Rickman's delicious sneer.  Have you ever seen anyone look SO 
disdainful with just a curl of the lip???  I've loved Rickman since "Robin 
Hood: Prince of Thieves" where I thought he was THE PERFECT Sheriff of 
Nottingham!  And the swordfight!  WAY cool!  I keep hoping Snape will do more dueling.  
His duel with Kenneth Branaugh was way too short for my taste.  The man has 
style!  ;->


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Mon May 17 03:49:40 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:49:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Katie Leung as Cho Chang
In-Reply-To: <004d01c43ac8$275b94c0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <20040517034940.94431.qmail@web80304.mail.yahoo.com>

Criminey, amen to that!  I expected so much more of Cho from having seen her in GOF -- when Harry actually spent time with her in OOP, she was SO tiresome.  I was really disappointed.  What a twit!  I hope she comes out better in the movie.
 
Gretchen

Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:
  Gosh, I hope the new director does not magnify the relationship between Harry and Cho, because personally,
  I could not stand Cho in the books! 

Visit the Mr. Baby Blog:  http://gretchenb.tripod.com/mrbaby/

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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 17 05:37:04 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:37:04 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c88hhq+apbg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c89j20+2eft@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <teilani2002 at y...> wrote:

> > 
> Hey, I'm actually a huge movie buff and do think Gary Oldman is an 
> excellent actor.  And yeah, JKR was probably talking about the young 
> Sirius Black rather than the older one. 
> I knew I'd get some flack for writing that because Oldman is a great 
> actor, but I know so many people that agree with me, and they're 
> movie fans as well, that I thought I'd throw that out there.  And I'd 
> still like to know who else tried for the part.
> (snip)
> Sorry about not looking up stuff in the archives.  I haven't really 
> gotten a handle on that yet :-0
> Susan (teilani)

imamommy:
Interesting that this is such a passionate topic.  I wrote a post
about not finding Gary Oldman very attractive the other day and got my
head bit off.  Notice none of us are complaining about Lupin or
Trelawney or Wormtail.  I think Sirius must be so important in all of
our minds to command such attention.  

I know I dredged all this up myself, but I propose we all call a truce
on the topic, at least until we've seen the movie.  

imamommy




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 17 05:56:29 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 05:56:29 -0000
Subject: SHIP evidence?(was:  Re: Katie Leung as Cho Chang)
In-Reply-To: <004d01c43ac8$275b94c0$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <c89k6d+7sei@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...>
wrote:
> It seems that Cuaron has increased the relationship between not
>   only Ron and Hermione, but with Harry and Hermione too.  She just
seems to be holding onto both of them
>   a lot, but of course, that is all through trailers so maybe it is
not like that in the movie.  I remember Hermione
>   fighting a lot during both books, PoA and GoF, which I just got
done reading again, but in GoF, it was more
>   about Ron's jealousy.  
>   Don't get me wrong..I love a good romance, even if they do seem
ill-matched,
>   personality-wise. (i.e. when she gets disgusted at Ron for eating
like a
>   pig. I see her more compatible with Harry).>>
>   See, I think the same way! I just see Hermione and Harry together.
 Now someone
>   on the book list said that is just getting the chemistry of the
two actors on
>   the movies mixed up with the real characters in the book.  Maybe
they are right,
>   but when I read the books, Hermione reminds me of Lily, Harry's
mother, and therefore
>   I could see him falling in love with her in the end.  Kind of like
how James fell in
>   love with Lily... Like father, like son... James' friends are
always saying how Harry
>   is a lot like his dad.  I could maybe see Ron as Hermione's first
boyfriend, but 
>   not in the long run.  Of course, that is just my opinion and I
know that is a big
>   debate among some fans.  I just keep reminding myself that this is
not a romance
>   novel. LOL! 
  Kimberly
> 
> 
> 
imamommy:

Boy, we all love this topic!  I am personally an H&H shipper, and was
delighted to see this still shot frome PoA
http://mugglethai.com/galleries/poa/poapic61.jpg
They sure do look googly-eyed!  I know, I know, it's not any kind of
real proof, but even in CoS (particularly the scene when Harry first
sees Hermione in Diagon Alley and she fixes his glasses) I got an
inkling that either the actors had more chemistry than they were
supposed to, or else they were playing some subtext.  I keep hoping
that one day Harry will wake up and figure out she's perfect for him!  

Maybe this belongs on the book list, but while I'm on the subject, my
husband (much to my chagrin) has formed the unromantic opinion that
romantic feelings will be inconsequential in the final outcome of the
story.  He thinks it's in there just as part of growing up, but that
it is not very important.  One way or another, I hope he's      wrong,
because I like a little true love thrown in to an adventure story.

imamommy




From teilani2002 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 14:39:22 2004
From: teilani2002 at yahoo.com (Susan)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:39:22 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c89j20+2eft@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8aiqq+m5m6@eGroups.com>



> 
> imamommy:
> Interesting that this is such a passionate topic.  I wrote a post
> about not finding Gary Oldman very attractive the other day and got 
my
> head bit off.  Notice none of us are complaining about Lupin or
> Trelawney or Wormtail.  I think Sirius must be so important in all 
of
> our minds to command such attention.  
> 
> I know I dredged all this up myself, but I propose we all call a 
truce
> on the topic, at least until we've seen the movie.  
> 
Hey, if it helps, I've been casually keeping my eyes open for the 
actor *I* think would make an excellent Remus Lupin, because in my 
opinion, he's supposed to be good looking as well.  And last night I 
was thinking about this craving for a really cute Sirius, and I now 
know why.  I'm not 15 years old and couldn't possibly find these kids 
actually hot in any way b/c they're so young.  So yeah, I want some 
eye candy for myself.  Lots of teen girls think Daniel is cute, and 
that's wonderful for them, and I'd just like to have someone who's an 
adult to spark *my* interest.  And as for Peter, his description in 
the book, and his actions as well, make him not attractive in the 
first place, and the guy who's playing him has lots of experience, so 
no objections there.  BTW, I'm going to *try* and find your post 
re:Sirius.
Susan :-)
 




From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May 17 15:35:52 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:35:52 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] TV Spots
Message-ID: <8a.b233c54.2dda35d8@aol.com>

I saw a new one on after Malcolm in the Middle last night. Most of it was old 
footage, but it did have a clip of Ron being dragged on the ground and 
screaming for Harry, and there was a half-second of a werewolf/dog fight at the very 
end. It was a more serious ad too, which is a nice change (all the other ones 
I've seen are trying to play up the humor in the film). Keep your eyes out 
for that one.


-Rebecca


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From doliesl at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 15:50:47 2004
From: doliesl at yahoo.com (doliesl)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:47 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c8aiqq+m5m6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8an0n+foki@eGroups.com>

The interview in Premiere magazine said they want Sirius to play by 
someone who is "iconic" of being scary, dangerous and rebellious, 
but can also be a caring person. And this speaks more about Sirius 
than "just being handsome in his glory teenage days". And so we have 
Gary Oldman. "HOT" and "CUTE (emphasis *in the past*)" is probably 
WAY at the bottom of the last of list of the priorities of Sirius 
casting (and I AGREE!). Just by going for "iconic", all the little 
known actors won't make it in first round. 

Whoever "cute" actor that someone mention here, sorry to me it is 
ineffective (and embarassing) to see some nobody on screen as 
this "infamous escaped prisoner" who is supposed to have a mythical 
frightening presence because majority of time Sirius is OFF screen, 
he is only a presence and name that scares people. Imagine when it's 
time for him to appear onscreen it'll be such a let down to see an 
actor you'd go "who? and feel "small" (and most importantly if he 
can't act well and pull some corny cheesy "ooo...I'm so scary~ I'm 
in pain" acts...btw I know nothing about that "cute" actor so of 
course I'm not saying that' he is), but you get my point: the status 
(better if he's iconic) of the actor is part of what the casting 
people concern. To all those who haven't read the book will go into 
the theatre knowing that they're supposed to fear Sirius, feeling 
his threatening presence even OFF screen. So any actor who is little 
known from acting in TV series or small budget film, won't pull off 
that GREAT presence.  Not to mention an unequal "presence" when up 
against famous "iconic to majority of audience" actors like Alan 
Rickman. The Snape/Sirius dynamic will be so one-sided as Alan 
Rickman's Snape will totally overpower a "nobody actor's Sirius" and 
makes Sirius feel small and unimportant.   

As fans I know "looks" is probably 1st MAJOR priority concern for 
most, but that won't work.

D.




From ppahuja1 at yahoo.com  Mon May 17 20:33:59 2004
From: ppahuja1 at yahoo.com (ppahuja1)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:33:59 -0000
Subject: Question about Imax showings
In-Reply-To: <c89k6d+7sei@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8b7jn+fei1@eGroups.com>

Hi all, 

A few days ago, there was a message about POA being shown in the 
IMAX theater in Manhattan. 

I have been bugging my friends to go :) when I found out some 
interesting info that might discourage many people from going to see 
the movie.  So I figured I would check with everyone here for 
clarification.

I have heard that IMAX reels can only accomodate a 2 hour movie.  If 
a movie is longer, they cut scenes.  My friend claims this is what 
happened during Star Wars (I think it was Episode I).  He says 
scenes were cut when he saw this movie in Imax.  Does anyone know if 
this is true?  I don't want to waste my money especially since I 
have heard that POA is 2 hrs and 20 minutes long.

Thanks.

Pam




From hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com  Tue May 18 00:02:48 2004
From: hpfgu_list_elves at yahoo.com (hpfgu_list_elves)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 00:02:48 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: Call for Elves
Message-ID: <c8bjr8+ijij@eGroups.com>

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From hermione81 at free.fr  Tue May 18 00:21:43 2004
From: hermione81 at free.fr (Hermione81)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 02:21:43 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SHIP evidence? +PoA soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <1084788178.1586.98023.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCCF23B7.12CD%hermione81@free.fr>

Kimberly:
>>   pig. I see her more compatible with Harry).>>
>>   See, I think the same way! I just see Hermione and Harry together.
> Now someone
>>   on the book list said that is just getting the chemistry of the
> two actors on
>>   the movies mixed up with the real characters in the book.  Maybe
> they are right,
>>   but when I read the books, Hermione reminds me of Lily, Harry's
> mother, and therefore
>>   I could see him falling in love with her in the end.  Kind of like
> how James fell in
>>   love with Lily... Like father, like son... James' friends are
> always saying how Harry
>>   is a lot like his dad.  I could maybe see Ron as Hermione's first
> boyfriend, but 
>>   not in the long run.  Of course, that is just my opinion and I
> know that is a big
>>   debate among some fans.  I just keep reminding myself that this is
> not a romance
>>   novel. LOL! 
> Kimberly
>> 
>> 
>> 
then imamommy:
> 
> Boy, we all love this topic!  I am personally an H&H shipper, and was
> delighted to see this still shot frome PoA
> http://mugglethai.com/galleries/poa/poapic61.jpg
> They sure do look googly-eyed!  I know, I know, it's not any kind of
> real proof, but even in CoS (particularly the scene when Harry first
> sees Hermione in Diagon Alley and she fixes his glasses) I got an
> inkling that either the actors had more chemistry than they were
> supposed to, or else they were playing some subtext.  I keep hoping
> that one day Harry will wake up and figure out she's perfect for him!
> 
> Maybe this belongs on the book list, but while I'm on the subject, my
> husband (much to my chagrin) has formed the unromantic opinion that
> romantic feelings will be inconsequential in the final outcome of the
> story.  He thinks it's in there just as part of growing up, but that
> it is not very important.  One way or another, I hope he's      wrong,
> because I like a little true love thrown in to an adventure story.
> 
> imamommy
>


Now me (Mathilde):

*takes 'Pumpkin Pie' flag out and waves frantically*
Hello to all H/H shippers out there and please welcome a dedicated french
mate aboard! :)
I also happen to think exactly the same way, Hermione and Harry are such a
perfect match! I am not too sure about the Hermione-Lily/Harry-James
connection, although I must say, Kimberly, that it certainly is a very
interesting way of looking at it, and you do have a point there. But there
is obviously more to the Harry-Hermione chemistry than just a repetition of
the James-Lily scheme (especially since they didn't start quite as badly as
Harry's parents did...)
As for me, I always get the feeling that Hermione understands Harry in a
much more profound way than anyone else... And the same goes about Harry,
who is so much more 'attuned' to Hermione than Ron ever will be. They both
care about each other's feelings, and are more steady in their loyalty.
Don't get me wrong, I love Ron, he's a great character and a very sweet boy
in many ways, but I always get extremely irritated when I see how quick he
is to get angry/jealous and influenced by the public opinion or by what he
thinks is evidence (examples? the your-nasty-furball-ate-my-poor-rat case in
PoA, the Harry-did-you-put-your-name-in-the-cup-without-telling-me and the
Hermione-are-you-pactizing-with-the-ennemy issues in GoF.) Although one
could argue that all this affected only their friendship so far and doesn't
have much to do with romance (except maybe the Krum case), it does show one
thing: that Ron has problems when it comes to trust. And isn't trust an
essential aspect in a romantic relationship?
I could also see Ron becoming Hermione's first boyfriend while they're still
at school (although it actually means I would spend a terrible time having
to read it in book 6 and/or 7!), but I don't think their relationship would
be viable in the long run... But back to movies-related discussion!

I was glad to read I'm not the only one getting that H/H vibe when watching
the Diagon Alley scene in COS! (by the way, imamommy, what do you think of
that scene when Harry and Ron visit petrified Hermione in the hospital wing
and Harry strokes Hermione's hand? I know it's just a way of making Harry
finding the piece of crumbled parchment that will give them all the answers,
but still........)
And what can I say about the (utterly adorable) pic you linked to,
imamommy... Just LOVE it! My mum and I both jumped to the ceiling and
squealed with pleasure when we first saw it some weeks ago, shouting 'this
is soooo Pumpkin Pie!'  ;)  (yes, I've been spending much too much time on
Fiction Alley)

I guess my view is very influenced by the movies, and by the great chemistry
between Dan and Emma onscreen ?and, also, apparently, off-screen; cf various
interviews, on The Leaky Cauldron or the recent PoA preview on abc... It was
so funny to watch, that preview, when Dan starts saying that stuff about the
fact that 'if textbooks did have teeth and were that vicious, you would
definitely pay more attention in class', Emma finishes his sentence together
with him. It was really cute, and a nice surprise, for I have always
pictured Harry and Hermione as being those kind of people (no matter if they
are romantically involved or just best friends) who would often finish each
other's sentences. :)  It's really funny to see how much the Trio kids seem
to grow more and more like their characters!

Ah, well, I guess I am now completely off-topic and should better stop,
although it's always so nice to discuss the never-ending topic of possible
relationships in HP. I also happen to like a little true love thrown in to
an adventure story, and although I don't think romantic feelings will be the
ultimate determining factor in the outcome of the story, I still think it
will have its importance. But more than everything, it is simply love in the
broader acception of the word (as in brotherly and friendly love as well as
romantic love) that will be the central theme. (*cue to Mathilde developping
her wild theories of a Ron sacrifice in the final confrontation, only to
realize that *that* would be *definitely* off topic.)

In the meanwhile, surely JK still has loads and loads of surprises/shockers
in store for us! Can't wait to see PoA, since it will apparently contain
more clues about the future...


Mathilde


PS: While I'm on the subject... Is it just an impression I got, or is there
a demographic distinction between H/H and R/H shippers? I often get the
feeling that R/H are a majority of teenagers, whereas young adults and
grown-ups tend to be more in favour of a H/H romance (I myself qualify as a
'young adult'). But maybe that's just me. What do you enlightened HP fans
think?

PS2: Are you all aware of the PoA soundtrack listening party on AOL? Here's
the link, it's well worth a check:

http://mp.aol.com/dalaillama/speed.adp?url=%2fdalaillama%2faudio%2eindex%2ea
dp%3fmxid%3d1134931%26%5fAOLFORM%3dw604%2eh305%2ep7%2eR37%26speed%3dbb

I really like this new Williams score. It is like a patchwork of various
styles and influences, and like the first two is at the same time magic,
poetic and humorous. Love Aunt Marge's Waltz (isn't it the first waltz ever
in a HP score?), love the Prokofiev influence that can be heard so often
throughout the scores of all three movies so far... But I think my favorite
bit at the moment in PoA is the 'bernsteinian' take on the Knight Bus
?sounds like a performance of a symphonic suite from West Side Story going
completely awry! it's so perfect for the Knight Bus... Merlin, this music
must be so much fun to perform! *big sigh*




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 18 03:03:35 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:03:35 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SHIP evidence? +PoA soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <BCCF23B7.12CD%hermione81@free.fr>
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEIECPCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>


  -----Original Message-----




  Now me (Mathilde):

  *takes 'Pumpkin Pie' flag out and waves frantically*
  Hello to all H/H shippers out there and please welcome a dedicated french
  mate aboard! :)
  I also happen to think exactly the same way, Hermione and Harry are such a
  perfect match! I am not too sure about the Hermione-Lily/Harry-James
  connection, although I must say, Kimberly, that it certainly is a very
  interesting way of looking at it, and you do have a point there. But there
  is obviously more to the Harry-Hermione chemistry than just a repetition
of
  the James-Lily scheme (especially since they didn't start quite as badly
as
  Harry's parents did...) >>

  You know what made me think of the Lily-Hermione connection was in book 5
when Harry witnessed
   the scene with James (and gang) tormenting Snape, and Lily jumped to his
cause. I could see Hermione
  doing the same thing. I always liked Harry and Hermione for most of the
reasons you mentioned in your
  email, but it was like that chapter or "scene" just sealed my love for
them as a couple.  I also like how
  Hermione tells Harry how it is, and doesn't try to skirt things.

  I could also see Ron becoming Hermione's first boyfriend while they're
still
  at school (although it actually means I would spend a terrible time having
  to read it in book 6 and/or 7!), but I don't think their relationship
would
  be viable in the long run... But back to movies-related discussion! >>

  I agree, I could see Ron as Hermione's first boyfriend, and you know, I
may be nuts but I think Ron and Luna
  seem more compatible.  At least through the books.  :-)

  I guess my view is very influenced by the movies, and by the great
chemistry
  between Dan and Emma onscreen ?and, also, apparently, off-screen; cf
various
  interviews, on The Leaky Cauldron or the recent PoA preview on abc... It
was
  so funny to watch, that preview, when Dan starts saying that stuff about
the
  fact that 'if textbooks did have teeth and were that vicious, you would
  definitely pay more attention in class', Emma finishes his sentence
together
  with him. It was really cute, and a nice surprise, for I have always
  pictured Harry and Hermione as being those kind of people (no matter if
they
  are romantically involved or just best friends) who would often finish
each
  other's sentences. :)  It's really funny to see how much the Trio kids
seem
  to grow more and more like their characters! >>

  It is hard to tell if the movie and actors is what influences our feelings
and image of the books.  I saw SS
  before reading the books, and saw the trio's chemistry but didn't think of
romance in SS. After all, they were
  only 11. It was the books that made me like Harry and Hermione, and I
think Dan and Emma's chemistry
  just makes it stronger.  Of course, Emma could be one of those actresses
that would have chemistry with
  a dish rag.  LOL!  She is so adorable and charming.

  (*cue to Mathilde developping
  her wild theories of a Ron sacrifice in the final confrontation, only to
  realize that *that* would be *definitely* off topic.) >>

  hehehe... I think Ron could be sacrificed too, but I'll leave this out of
the discussion also. :-)

  PS2: Are you all aware of the PoA soundtrack listening party on AOL?
Here's
  the link, it's well worth a check:


http://mp.aol.com/dalaillama/speed.adp?url=%2fdalaillama%2faudio%2eindex%2ea
  dp%3fmxid%3d1134931%26%5fAOLFORM%3dw604%2eh305%2ep7%2eR37%26speed%3dbb >>

  Someone posted this the other day, and I listened to it while the twins
and I watched SS on ABC.  It was
  driving my daughter nuts, because she was trying to watch the movie while
I was listening to PoA's soundtrack
  on the laptop.  I still like "Something Wicked" song.  I know some hate
it, but I find it entertaining. :-)
  Kimberly




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From McGregorMax at ec.rr.com  Tue May 18 01:19:15 2004
From: McGregorMax at ec.rr.com (mcmaxslb)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 01:19:15 -0000
Subject: What scenes do you think the movies did better than the books?
Message-ID: <c8boaj+m9an@eGroups.com>

When PoA comes out that is one of the things we'll be talking about 
is what scenes the movie did better that the book.  I thought that we 
can practice with the first two books/movies. I have two from CoS. 

 One, When Harry visits Hermione in hospital after she is petrified 
and he sees the piece of paper in her hand that tell them about the 
Basilisk. In the movie Harry is holding her hand, trying to comfort 
her (pumpkin-y) and he feels the paper.

 The other scene is when Harry kills the Basilisk but is poisoned by 
the fang that broke off in his arm. Fawkes cures Harry with his tears 
and then Harry destroys the diary thus destroying Riddle/Voldemort. 
But in the movie first Harry destroys the diary as his last act 
taking Riddle/Voldemort with him, then Fawkes heals him. much more 
affective.

 What are yours? 





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 04:58:02 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 04:58:02 -0000
Subject: SHIP evidence? +PoA soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <BCCF23B7.12CD%hermione81@free.fr>
Message-ID: <c8c54q+kh2s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Hermione81 <hermione81 at f...> wrote:

> I was glad to read I'm not the only one getting that H/H vibe when
watching
> the Diagon Alley scene in COS! (by the way, imamommy, what do you
think of
> that scene when Harry and Ron visit petrified Hermione in the
hospital wing
> and Harry strokes Hermione's hand? I know it's just a way of making
Harry
> finding the piece of crumbled parchment that will give them all the
answers,
> but still........)
> And what can I say about the (utterly adorable) pic you linked to,
> imamommy... Just LOVE it! My mum and I both jumped to the ceiling and
> squealed with pleasure when we first saw it some weeks ago, shouting
'this
> is soooo Pumpkin Pie!'  ;)  (yes, I've been spending much too much
time on
> Fiction Alley)
>
Someone I know watched the movie with their parents, who had no clue
about the books at all, and when Hermione gives Harry that giant hug
at the end, and then has the weird moment with Ron, their mom or dad
(can't remember which) said, what, she's supposed to like both of them?

As to demographic differences in shippers, I can only speak for
myself.  I'm mid-twenites, married with two kids.  

I think JKR's statement (on her website) has only done one thing:  to
make each of us, whatever our position, even more entrenched in our
favorite ship.  The H/R shippers say it proves their point, we H/H
argue it confirms our suspicions, and we aren't likely to hear any
more from her until at least book 6.  I don't know if she meant it to
be still ambiguous, but there it is.  

My support for H/H comes from reading the subtext and gauging the true
depth of feeling between these characters.  (Does this belong on the
book list?)  Yes, I think Ron has a crush on her, and I can see a
first boyfriend possibility, maybe, but not much more, unless he grows
up a whole bunch, and I don't know that two books is enough to do it
in (not doubting the storyweaving powers of Ms. Rowling).  I think
Harry and Hermione spend a lot of time fending off suspicion that they
are a couple, and a lot of times when this happens it's because other
people can see what those in the friendship can't.  Notice nobody goes
around accusing Ron and Hermione of dating?  It's certainly obvious to
Padma that Rom would rather have asked Hermione, but I don't think the
feelings are necessarily mutual.  

imamommy
who apologizes that a good chunk of this should be on a different list





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 05:11:39 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 05:11:39 -0000
Subject: What scenes do you think the movies did better than the books?
In-Reply-To: <c8boaj+m9an@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8c5ub+bhtp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "mcmaxslb" <McGregorMax at e...> wrote:
> When PoA comes out that is one of the things we'll be talking about 
> is what scenes the movie did better that the book.  I thought that we 
> can practice with the first two books/movies. I have two from CoS. 
> 
>  One, When Harry visits Hermione in hospital after she is petrified 
> and he sees the piece of paper in her hand that tell them about the 
> Basilisk. In the movie Harry is holding her hand, trying to comfort 
> her (pumpkin-y) and he feels the paper.
> 
>  The other scene is when Harry kills the Basilisk but is poisoned by 
> the fang that broke off in his arm. Fawkes cures Harry with his tears 
> and then Harry destroys the diary thus destroying Riddle/Voldemort. 
> But in the movie first Harry destroys the diary as his last act 
> taking Riddle/Voldemort with him, then Fawkes heals him. much more 
> affective.
> 
>  What are yours?

imamommy:

Firstly, let me preface this by saying that think it's very hard to
compare the two, because film and print are such different media. 
That said, some of my favorite embellishments were:

1.The violet pudding getting dropped on what's-her-name's head,
instead of the kitchen.

2.The way they reworked the car ride to Hogwarts; the way it was
written was fine for a novel, but would have been pretty boring on film.

3.Lucius Malfoy actually beginning to use Avada Kedavra on Harry.

That said, I have a few where the movie really disappointed, too:

1.The end of CoS.  I have no idea why the whole school would applaud
Hagrid.  Bugs me every time

2.Devil's Snare.  In the book, Hermione loses her head and Ron has to
remind her she knows how to conjure fire.  Both these characters lose
something in the movie version.

3.Firenze.  Enough said about that.

imamommy







From HMaffioli at cox.net  Tue May 18 05:59:28 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:59:28 -0700
Subject: Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!
Message-ID: <00b401c43c9d$48755e80$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

I just had to share.  My friend just called and told me she got tickets to a sneak preview this Sunday at 1pm!!!!!  I can't believe it.  I get to see it almost 2 weeks early.

Anyone else scored tickets to preview showings?

Heather

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From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue May 18 07:16:13 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:16:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] What scenes do you think the movies did better than the boo...
Message-ID: <113.32d7323c.2ddb123d@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/17/2004 8:54:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
McGregorMax at ec.rr.com writes:

>>When PoA comes out that is one of the things we'll be talking about 
is what scenes the movie did better that the book.  I thought that we 
can practice with the first two books/movies.<<

Of course most people will be focused on what's *worse* than the books, but I 
agree that some things are better changed for the screen (or in general).
Off the top of my head....
-In SS/PS, Hagrid telling Harry the story of his parents in the Leaky 
Cauldron as opposed to in front of the Dursely's, which felt sort of awkward. -- 
Also, later that Harry leaves directly from shopping for supplies to go to the 
train as opposed to going back to the Dursley's for another month first (of 
course, it doesn't work out with the dates correctly, but works better to just have 
him go directly to the train and not see the Durselys again until the next 
summer).

I'll second detesting the sickingly sweet Hagrid hug scene at the end of CoS. 
That and I don't quite understand why they changed the order of the sorting 
hat scene, in the book it makes sense, its alphabetical, but in the movie its 
completely random (I understand if they just want to show the main characters 
getting sorted, but why aren't *those* at least in alphabetical order?).
Arg, can't think of any more because I've been up faaar too many hours today.


-Rebecca (who will be going to bed now)


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue May 18 15:49:11 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:49:11 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA music and ships
Message-ID: <ea.4eadc39c.2ddb8a77@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/18/2004 7:14:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
http://mp.aol.com/dalaillama/speed.adp?url=%2fdalaillama%2faudio%2eindex%2ea
dp%3fmxid%3d1134931%26%5fAOLFORM%3dw604%2eh305%2ep7%2eR37%26speed%3dbb

THANKS for this link!  I'm listening to it now.  I love John Williams' music. 
 What I've heard so far is excellent!

As for your question about ships and age groups -- I'm all for happy endings 
(sorry about that, it's just my cheerful nature!).  I'd be happy to see Ron 
and Hermione together, and Harry and Ginny together, so they can all be happy 
and family together.  That said, I can see Harry and Hermione together at some 
point, but I think Harry will bow to Ron's crush on Hermione first.  I can't 
imagine how Harry and Ginny will break up, IF that happens, but Harry and 
Hermione could make a good pair too.  The pair I simply cannot see is Harry and 
Luna.  She's just too weird, and HE thinks she's weird.  I see her with Neville -- 
they can be wierd and nerdy together, heehee.  I see Harry and Luna being 
friends, but I also see him being cautious in his friendship with her for a 
variety of reasons (including the fact he's already been cautious in his friendship 
with her, being friendly but trying to keep his distance).  At least, that's 
how it read to me in book 5 and in my ponderings.  And as for my age group -- 
I'm 54, and I guess I'm a H/G, R/Hermione shipper.  


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue May 18 15:59:41 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:59:41 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
Message-ID: <a1.480a85d7.2ddb8ced@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/18/2004 7:14:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
That said, I have a few where the movie really disappointed, too:

1.The end of CoS.  I have no idea why the whole school would applaud
Hagrid.  Bugs me every time

2.Devil's Snare.  In the book, Hermione loses her head and Ron has to
remind her she knows how to conjure fire.  Both these characters lose
something in the movie version.

3.Firenze.  Enough said about that.

imamommy

Oh, don't get me started on Firenze!  I was SO looking forward to how they 
would do the centaurs, and Firenze was awful.  The unicorn was awful too.  Have 
any of you seen (rats what's the name??) "Legend," I think it is, with a VERY 
young Tom Cruise?  They had GORGEOUS unicorns in that (real horses with horns 
applied -- except when the horns flopped a bit when they galloped, they looked 
fabulous!)  Even CGI-created unicorns and centaurs could've looked better 
than these did.  Yucko!!  :-P~~~~  (Raspberries to the CGI crew for those scenes).

And Devil's Snare -- that line about "You ARE a witch, aren't you?" is SO 
perfect, and they completely messed up that scene IMO.  There was no reason to 
change it.  It would have been just as visually dramatic as it was written.  I 
missed seeing Hermione's "trademark" bluebell flames -- she just did "normal" 
fire when she set Snape's robes on fire.

I think the Quidditch game was well-done -- adding Harry "surfing" on the 
broom was a bit much, but pretty cool visually.  And the way he tumbled when he 
fell off, and how he "threw up" the snitch -- very nice (and I do know that was 
in the book -- it was just a great visual).

I do think the handling of the basilisk scene, with Harry being healed AFTER 
he destroyed the diary, was very well done.  And his meeting Hermione in 
Diagon Alley, where they have that little "Hi, we haven't seen each other in a 
while, should we hug or not?" kind of moment was interesting.  Since they're so 
young, I didn't think of it as "sexual tension" as someone else on here 
suggested, but as the normal awkwardness of kids who are friends but aren't sure if 
their friend will be offended if they do something they feel like doing 
(hugging, which would have come from Hermione, no doubt).

I can't WAIT to see PoA!!  YIKES we have to wait HOW many more days???  Argh!!

Wishing I could go to the premiere in NYC. . .


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 18 16:59:41 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:59:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!
References: <00b401c43c9d$48755e80$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
Message-ID: <004401c43cfb$e8bffa90$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>



No... but let us know how you like it!!!  We want a short review without giving too much away.  LOL!  ~Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Heather Maffioli 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:59 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!


  I just had to share.  My friend just called and told me she got tickets to a sneak preview this Sunday at 1pm!!!!!  I can't believe it.  I get to see it almost 2 weeks early.

  Anyone else scored tickets to preview showings?

  Heather

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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 18 16:53:22 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:53:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA ships & appearances
References: <ea.4eadc39c.2ddb8a77@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004301c43cfb$e89ce230$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 


  As for your question about ships and age groups -- I'm all for happy endings 
  (sorry about that, it's just my cheerful nature!).  I'd be happy to see Ron 
  and Hermione together, and Harry and Ginny together, so they can all be happy 
  and family together.  That said, I can see Harry and Hermione together at some 
  point, but I think Harry will bow to Ron's crush on Hermione first.  I can't 
  imagine how Harry and Ginny will break up, IF that happens, but Harry and 
  Hermione could make a good pair too.  The pair I simply cannot see is Harry and 
  Luna.  She's just too weird, and HE thinks she's weird.  I see her with Neville -- 
  they can be wierd and nerdy together, heehee.  I see Harry and Luna being 
  friends, but I also see him being cautious in his friendship with her for a 
  variety of reasons (including the fact he's already been cautious in his friendship 
  with her, being friendly but trying to keep his distance).  At least, that's 
  how it read to me in book 5 and in my ponderings.  And as for my age group -- 
  I'm 54, and I guess I'm a H/G, R/Hermione shipper.  >>

  See, I don't see Harry and Ginny together at all.  There is no chemistry, IMO of course, between these two
  characters.  And definately no Luna and Harry.  You are right... she is too weird and flighty.  I do like Neville
  and Ginny together though.  I don't see Neville as weird, but clumsy and not too sure of himself.  I think Ginny
  would help him to be more sure of himself and supportive of him.  I'll be 34 next week, so I guess I am a R/L, H/H,
  and N/G shipper.  hehehe...

  Speaking of PoA movie & personal appearances, I read last night that Dan Radcliffe will be on the Today Show 
  on Monday, the 24th. Also, does anyone know if they are going to show the NY premier on the E! channel?  They 
  use to show premieres on that channel, but I don't know if they still do or not.  I am sure the internet will have 
  loads of the premiere shots, but it is fun to see it live too.  Just curious.  I know my son would love to see it.

  Kimberly







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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 18 16:44:23 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:44:23 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SHIP evidence? +PoA soundtrack
References: <c8c54q+kh2s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004201c43cfb$e87fe450$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  >  I think
  Harry and Hermione spend a lot of time fending off suspicion that they
  are a couple, and a lot of times when this happens it's because other
  people can see what those in the friendship can't.  Notice nobody goes
  around accusing Ron and Hermione of dating?  It's certainly obvious to
  Padma that Rom would rather have asked Hermione, but I don't think the
  feelings are necessarily mutual.>>


  Wow... I was just thinking about this last night after I wrote my reply email.  However
  it turns out, R/H or H/H, I'm sure JKR will make us love it either way. :-)  Again, maybe
  the movie and the director giving us a feel for R/H will change my views on R/H, but
  from reading the books, I like H/H best.

  Kimberly

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From clshannon at aol.com  Tue May 18 18:14:54 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:14:54 EDT
Subject: POA TV coverage
Message-ID: <dc.ae1d2be.2ddbac9e@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/18/04 10:23:54 AM, twinslove at mindspring.com writes:


> ? Speaking of PoA movie & personal appearances, I read last night that Dan 
> Radcliffe will be on the Today Show
> ? on Monday, the 24th. Also, does anyone know if they are going to show the 
> NY premier on the E! channel?
> 
Here's what I and others have been able to glean about upcoming stories and 
appearances of interest to us (POA related, of course) ;-)

Today- May 18th. 
Extra, the entertainment show in syndication in the US will have a feature on 
POA. Check your local times and stations.

Monday, May 24th
Dan Radcliffe on the Today Show - morning show on NBC in the US. Airs from 7 
to 9 am.

Tuesday, May 25th
Dan Radcliffe on Late Night with Conan O'Brien. Late night talk show on NBC 
in the US. Airs usually at 12:30 am, after The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

Tuesday, May 25th
HBO - 8:45 pm - HBO's First Look at POA. HBO will probably air this more than 
once - check the HBO web site for additional times and days.

June 3rd
E! Entertainment Channel will air their Behind the Scenes show about POA. 
Half   hour show airing at 4:30 pm, the first time. They are showing it many 
times in days immediately following the 3rd: June 4th at 3:30 pm, June 5th at 8:30 
am, June 6th at 3:00 am and 7:30 am, June 7th at 3:30 am.


I am sure other syndicated entertainment shows like Access Hollywood and 
Entertainment Tonight will feature brief stories on the premiere. The world 
premiere is May 23rd in NY, so look on that day or the   day after for stories. The 
London premiere is May 30th - they may do stories again.

I don't think we've heard when the LA premiere is, so we don't know if the 
kids or anyone else will be there for that. We know the three kids are going to 
the NY premiere and I assume they will go to the London one. If they go to the 
LA one, there is the possibility of them appearing on some LA based talk 
shows.
There is a web page that lists guests of all talk shows here in the US.
http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html
It usually   has a few weeks in advance. It's not affiliated with the shows, 
but it is pretty reliable.

The next few weeks should be full of activity, so keep your eyes open!
Cindy


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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 21:35:55 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:35:55 -0000
Subject: what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
In-Reply-To: <a1.480a85d7.2ddb8ced@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8dvjr+gojb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/18/2004 7:14:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> That said, I have a few where the movie really disappointed, too:

> 2.Devil's Snare.  In the book, Hermione loses her head and Ron has to
> remind her she knows how to conjure fire.  Both these characters lose
> something in the movie version.

artsylynda:
>
> And Devil's Snare -- that line about "You ARE a witch, aren't you?"
is SO 
> perfect, and they completely messed up that scene IMO.  There was no
reason to 
> change it.  It would have been just as visually dramatic as it was
written. 

I think they changed it to give Hermione her "moment", since they cut
the potion!logic part out.  But the problem is this changes Hermione's
character.  The point is that she is logical, methodical, but not
necessarily good in a crisis.  IMHO, it robbed her of one of her flaws.


> I think the Quidditch game was well-done -- adding Harry "surfing"
on the 
> broom was a bit much, but pretty cool visually. 

imamommy:

Well, if Legolas can surf on his shield down the stairs at Helm's
Deep...Hehehe




From easytoread at hotmail.com  Tue May 18 14:02:54 2004
From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:02:54 -0000
Subject: On the Next Extra
Message-ID: <c8d52e+bonm@eGroups.com>

"...Plus, a "Harry Potter" exclusive and your first look at new 
scenes."

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/





From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 19 04:32:03 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:32:03 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <c887m1+39le@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCD05B83.A48%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: "Susan" <teilani2002 at yahoo.com>

Gerard Butler, also from the UK, actually IS hot.  Anyways, I'm just
really annoyed that Oldman is playing Sirius.  There are plenty of
*hot* UK actors that they could have cast in that role, and I'm
really worried that it's going to affect my appreciation of the next
three movies.  
http://www.gerardbutler.net/gallery.htm


Mmmm hmmmm, that Gerard Butler is quite the handsome one! Put some long hair
on him, and I can see him as Sirius.
Did he play in the movie "Big Fish"? I just saw that and can't recall
Butler. Was he the son of Ewen MacGregor?

bewitchedbyhp



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 19 04:47:51 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 00:47:51 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] H&H
In-Reply-To: <c89k6d+7sei@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCD05F37.A49%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>



From: "elady25" <imamommy at sbcglobal.net>

Boy, we all love this topic!  I am personally an H&H shipper, and was
delighted to see this still shot frome PoA
http://mugglethai.com/galleries/poa/poapic61.jpg
They sure do look googly-eyed!


Great photo! They do look like they are sharing "a moment".
I just want to add that I think it's great that they are finally making
Harry's hair look all "sproingly" (aka. messy, sticking up all over) as
described in canon. Dan is looking more like the book HP in POA than he did
in the previous 2 films.

bewitchedbyhp 


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From v-tregan at microsoft.com  Wed May 19 07:53:07 2004
From: v-tregan at microsoft.com (Tim Regan (Intl Vendor))
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:53:07 +0100
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Bellatrix as Richard III
Message-ID: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A80A61@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi All,

<Mandy>Bellatrix betraying Harry Potter would be a triumph equal only to
Richard III's seduction of Lady Anne in Shakespeare!  A challenge worthy
of our Ms. Lestrange.</Mandy>

 <Carol>This is totally off-topic but I had to respond: Lady Anne
Neville was  Richard III's first cousin once removed and they grew up in
the same  household. There is evidence that they loved each other deeply
and he  was devastated by her death. Shakespeare's "history" plays are
based   on the kinds of biased sources that Eustace-Scrubb recently
described,  further distorted by a dramatic license that has Richard
fighting in a   battle that occurred when he was eight years old.
</Carol> 
 
Did anyone else enjoy Fiona Shaw playing Richard II in the Deborah
Warner / John Wyver production of Shakespeare's play? If she wasn't
already Aunt Petunia, I'd have liked to see her play Bellatrix.
 
http://www.tonyawards.com/images/pics/large/bv_medea01.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/22o8p
 
Cheers,
 
Dumbledad.




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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed May 19 13:18:49 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:18:49 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
Message-ID: <59.c31bafb.2ddcb8b9@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/19/2004 7:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> I think the Quidditch game was well-done -- adding Harry "surfing"
on the 
> broom was a bit much, but pretty cool visually. 

imamommy:

Well, if Legolas can surf on his shield down the stairs at Helm's
Deep...Hehehe
Yeah, that was one of the cooler moments in that battle -- that and Aragorn 
"tossing" Gimli into the fight in front of the gate.  heehee  Not canonical at 
all, that I recall!  But visually very fun!


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed May 19 13:22:24 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:22:24 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] photos
Message-ID: <da.af83402.2ddcb990@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/19/2004 7:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
http://mugglethai.com/galleries/poa/poapic61.jpg

I am on AOL and I have NEVER gotten a Mugglethai page to open.  Why is that?  
I'm on Broadband and normally pics open quickly.  Could someone e me this 
pic, which has been mentioned many times but I've never seen?  Pretty please with 
sugar quills on top??  Thanks!

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Thu May 20 01:38:35 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:38:35 -0500
Subject: PoA Review
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEDJCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>

Cloudeight Stationery, Free email stationery, Quicknotes 46, "simply
elegant" selection name="watermark"

Hey everyone.  Since the list was so quiet, I thought I'd post a little
review that was on The Leaky Cauldron. It doesn't give
anything away, but it makes me want to see it NOW!  lol... Enjoy...

PoA Review!

Dennis, a Time Warner employee who was treated to a PoA screening, just sent
us a spoiler-free review of PoA that sings the film's praises to the level
we all hoped it would. The movie has so much atmosphere, "it almost seems as
if Tim Burton might have directed it," he says. Read below if you want to
know more!

Also, he says Ian Brown of the Stone Roses is spotted in the film, and is
sitting in the Leaky Cauldron reading Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of
Time. There have been debunked rumors about Brown's presence, but Dennis
says he could pick Brown out of a crowd. So, keep your eyes peeled when you
so the film to see if you agree.

First, let me just say that the movie is BRILLIANT. Finally - a Harry Potter
movie that captures the true spirit of the books without being so literal
that it might bore those unfamiliar with the books. The look, the feel and
the approach are
completely different from the two previous films. The sets and settings are
very
realistic. No more kiddie stuff. The movie is very GOTHIC. Loads of
atmosphere ...it almost seems as if Tim Burton might have directed it.

I liked the first two films - don't get me wrong ... but, I never felt that
they were as good as they should have been. A lot of that I believe came
from Chris
Columbus' slick "Hollywood" style directing. I always thought that a
director with more of an "Indie" film background would be better suited to
direct these movies. Alfonso Cuaron delivers ... BIG TIME! Everything is
better! The storytelling, the acting, the music and even the special
effects.

The three principals have grown as actors ... none of their lines are the
slightest
bit forced or overdone ... every line is delivered in very natural way.
Michael
Gambon does a great job as Dumbledore ... very different from Richard
Harris' soft spoken approach ... but, equally effective. Some people may be
bothered by Alfonso's re-imagining of Hogwarts, The Leaky Cauldron, the
Hogwarts Express, Hagrid's Hut, Professor Flitwick (new younger look), etc.
But not me ... I loved it. I think Alfonso got it all just right. The movie
moves and keeps moving ... there are no slow exposition scenes ....
everything that needs to be there is there ... no essential plot points are
sacrificed.

This is the work of a truly great filmmaker. I can hardly wait to see it
again.
********************************************
Twice Blessed ~ Twice Loved
mom to Jasper & Ashlynn (10/8/98)
http://twinslove.virtualave.net
AIM: Twinslove2
********************************************


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu May 20 03:57:42 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:57:42 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SHIP evidence?
In-Reply-To: <BCCF23B7.12CD%hermione81@free.fr>
Message-ID: <BCD1A4F5.A61%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: Hermione81 <hermione81 at free.fr>

what do you think of that scene when Harry and Ron visit petrified Hermione
in the hospital wing
and Harry strokes Hermione's hand? I know it's just a way of making Harry
finding the piece of crumbled parchment that will give them all the answers,
but still........)

[from bewitchedbyHP]
And I thought it was very very sweet how Harry would bring Hermione fresh
flowers every time he came to visit her petrified.

From: Hermione81 <hermione81 at free.fr>
It was so funny to watch, that preview, when Dan starts saying that stuff
about the
fact that 'if textbooks did have teeth and were that vicious, you would
definitely pay more attention in class', Emma finishes his sentence together
with him. It was really cute...

[from bewitchedbyHP]
Did anyone notice how much Dan was talking to Emma during the ABC Special?
He seemed on a closer level with her than with Rupert, IMO.




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From siskiou at vcem.com  Thu May 20 07:34:56 2004
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:34:56 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: SHIP evidence?
In-Reply-To: <BCD1A4F5.A61%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
References: <BCCF23B7.12CD%hermione81@free.fr>
 <BCD1A4F5.A61%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1464372022.20040520003456@vcem.com>



Hi,

Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 8:57:42 PM, valerie.flowe at verizon.net wrote:

> Did anyone notice how much Dan was talking to Emma during the ABC Special?
> He seemed on a closer level with her than with Rupert, IMO.

Well, I'd say both like to talk a lot ;)

And what if Dan and Emma are closer (not sure if you can use
interview situations to determine that)?

What does this have to do with ship evidence?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From tallcarabians at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 18 16:12:39 2004
From: tallcarabians at sbcglobal.net (Rae Callaway)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
In-Reply-To: <a1.480a85d7.2ddb8ced@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040518161239.6407.qmail@web81101.mail.yahoo.com>


imamommy writes:
> That said, I have a few where the movie really disappointed, 
> too:
>
> 3.Firenze. Enough said about that.


Lynda:
> Oh, don't get me started on Firenze! I was SO looking forward to 
> how they would do the centaurs, and Firenze was awful. <snip> Even 
> CGI-created unicorns and centaurs could've looked better than these 
> did. Yucko!! :-P~~~~ (Raspberries to the CGI crew for those scenes).


So what do you guys think of the centaurs in Hercules?  Would that have 
been better than the way Firenze was done?

Rae Callaway 




From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu May 20 13:29:42 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:29:42 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SHIP evidence
Message-ID: <12d.41a16d7a.2dde0cc6@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/20/2004 6:29:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
[from bewitchedbyHP]
Did anyone notice how much Dan was talking to Emma during the ABC Special?
He seemed on a closer level with her than with Rupert, IMO

Rupert doesn't seem to do interviews very well.  I read somewhere (can't 
think at the moment) an interview that was supposed to be with Rupert, and he 
asked for Emma to be part of it (they were on telephones with the interviewer) and 
she wound up doing most of the answers, and it was supposed to be an 
interview of RUPERT!  I'd like to know more about Rupert -- does he get gymnastics 
training like Dan does for stunts, is he taking scuba lessons like Dan is, what 
are his interests and hobbies -- do we ever see these?  No.  He has a very cute 
website but it hasn't been updated in quite a while, from what I could tell.  
Dan has said he's shy (I've heard this is a lot more common among actors than 
you'd think), but I think Rupert is even more shy.  I don't see Emma as shy 
at all.  She said in an interview after CoS that she was "in love with a 
colleague"  but it didn't seem to be Dan at the time (she was doing lots of 
interviews and appearances with Tom Felton then -- dunno if that is any "evidence" of 
"ships" or not).  It's fun to speculate, anyway.  And rather wise of all the 
cast to not give such things away (I noticed on Leaky, the interview with Jamie 
Waylett, he danced around the same question, refusing to say that anyone on 
set was romantically involved, and said Emma was "one of the lads" and they all 
thought of her as a sister.  Cute!)


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu May 20 13:31:00 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:00 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] SHIP evidence
Message-ID: <1d5.21c9bdf5.2dde0d14@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/20/2004 6:29:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
And what if Dan and Emma are closer (not sure if you can use
interview situations to determine that)?

What does this have to do with ship evidence?

Yeah, that has to do with Dan and Emma, not Harry and Hermione.  But it's fun 
to watch them being themselves -- and yes, I do think they both like to talk, 
and Rupert doesn't, not on camera anyway.


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From overgyou at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 20:24:40 2004
From: overgyou at yahoo.com (overgyou)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:24:40 -0000
Subject: what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
In-Reply-To: <c8dvjr+gojb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8j468+je12@eGroups.com>

The scene that really jumps to mind is the freeing of Dobby from 
CoS.  If I recall correctly, in the book, Harry puts Tom's diary in 
his sock, and hands it to Lucius, who then hands it to Dobby.  Thus, 
Malfoy ends up looking like an idiot for forgetting the clothes 
rule.  Compare that to the movie, where Harry tricks Malfoy into 
giving Dobby clothes by putting his sock inside the diary.  The 
latter method was just a lot more palatable, and doesn't require us 
to believe someone as clever and ruthless as Draco's dad would act in 
such a dumb fashion.

The other touch I liked better from the movies was when Harry first 
meets Quirrel in the Sorcerer's Stone.  In the book, they actually 
shake hands, whereas in the movie, the professor does a nervous hand 
wringing thing, and thus doesn't have any physical contact with Harry 
until the final scene.




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 22:27:13 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:27:13 -0000
Subject: what scenes ... movie .. better ,,, books? Firenze
In-Reply-To: <20040518161239.6407.qmail@web81101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c8jbc1+e069@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Rae Callaway <tallcarabians at s...>
wrote:
> 
> imamommy writes:
> > That said, I have a few where the movie really disappointed, 
> > too:
> >
> > 3.Firenze. Enough said about that.
> 
> 
> Lynda:
> > Oh, don't get me started on Firenze! I was SO looking forward to 
> > how they would do the centaurs, and Firenze was awful. <snip> Even 
> > CGI-created unicorns and centaurs could've looked better than
> > these  did. Yucko!! :-P~~~~ (Raspberries to the CGI crew for those
> > scenes).
> 
> 
> So what do you guys think of the centaurs in Hercules?  Would that
> have been better than the way Firenze was done?
> 
> Rae Callaway

If you are talking about Kevin Sorbo in the New Zealand-filmed
syndicated TV show Hercules, and it companion show 'Zena-Warrior
Prince', then yes.

Those centaurs were done to perfection, they were made up of living
humans combined with real living horses, which in the end created real
living (in the TV show) centaurs; sometimes whole herds of them. 

Zena & Hercules where not huge big budget operations, yet they were
able to do centaur exceptionally well. That's one more reason why I
was so thoroughly disappointed in the movie version of Firenze. They
didn't even come remotely close to matching his description in the
book. He is suppost to be a very young handsome blue-eyed blond man.
The movie centaur looked like it was a left over from some Saturday
morning cartoon.

What are they going to do when Firenze comes back in future books?
They certainly can't continue on with that 'cartoon' centaur. I
suspect when Firenze appears again, they will get it right, and just
hope that we forget about the first version. At least, I hope that's
what they do.

Sorry for the rant.

bboy_mn






From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 23:49:10 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:49:10 -0000
Subject: PoA Review
In-Reply-To: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEDJCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <c8jg5m+ja2n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...> 
wrote:
> Cloudeight Stationery, Free email stationery, Quicknotes 
46, "simply
> elegant" selection name="watermark"
> 
> Hey everyone.  Since the list was so quiet, I thought I'd post a 
little
> review that was on The Leaky Cauldron. It doesn't give
> anything away, but it makes me want to see it NOW!  lol... Enjoy...
> 
> PoA Review!
> ....


 And the best part of the review for me?? 

"No more kiddie stuff. The movie is very GOTHIC. Loads of
atmosphere ...it almost seems as if Tim Burton might have directed 
it."....

:-D 

As a fan of the books who hated the first two movies, for lack of 
the elements mentioned in the above quotes...

Hurry. Please. Release. DATE!!!




From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri May 21 00:43:51 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Review
In-Reply-To: <c8jg5m+ja2n@eGroups.com>
References: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEDJCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>
    <c8jg5m+ja2n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3132.4.12.232.27.1085100231.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

daughterofthedust said:

>  And the best part of the review for me??
>
> "No more kiddie stuff. The movie is very GOTHIC. Loads of
> atmosphere ...it almost seems as if Tim Burton might have directed
> it."....

> As a fan of the books who hated the first two movies, for lack of
> the elements mentioned in the above quotes...

I'm interested in seeing them too.  However, I also think the changes are
*somewhat* problematic.

I've heard comments about very young kids being 'spooked' or 'upset' about
seeing the trailers during the previews for some lighter kid movies.  This
may be for the percentage of very young kids, who haven't read the books
and are only familiar with the movies.

Hm, can't make everybody happy.

Dina




From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 00:58:16 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 00:58:16 -0000
Subject: Sirius: The Casting Game
In-Reply-To: <BCD05B83.A48%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c8jk78+348s@eGroups.com>

Has anyone mentioned Paul Blackthorne as Sirius? He's currently 
guest starring on the fox show 24 and NBCs ER. Rough him up a good, 
and give him Tom Hanks look in Cast Away and i think you'd have a 
right good Sirius. He'd have those vestiges of good looks and still 
look vampish.

Jason




From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri May 21 13:19:04 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:19:04 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] what scenes did the movies do better than the books?
Message-ID: <a1.48308089.2ddf5bc8@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/21/2004 6:27:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
So what do you guys think of the centaurs in Hercules?  Would that have 
been better than the way Firenze was done?

Rae Callaway 

Sorry, didn't see that one.  "Legend" was done AGES ago (when Tom Cruise was 
still a young hottie nobody much had heard of) and the unicorns were gorgeous. 
 There's no reason they couldn't have done similar work here.  Oh, and I 
recall some centaurs on "Zena Warrior Princess" that were hunky guys with horse 
bodies -- those were what I was expecting of the HP franchise, not a Shrek-like 
CGI centaur.


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri May 21 13:26:28 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 09:26:28 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review
Message-ID: <c.29b9aa76.2ddf5d84@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/21/2004 6:27:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> As a fan of the books who hated the first two movies, for lack of
> the elements mentioned in the above quotes...

I'm interested in seeing them too.  However, I also think the changes are
*somewhat* problematic.

I've heard comments about very young kids being 'spooked' or 'upset' about
seeing the trailers during the previews for some lighter kid movies.  This
may be for the percentage of very young kids, who haven't read the books
and are only familiar with the movies.

Hm, can't make everybody happy.

Dina

I have been VERY frustrated to not have seen the trailer in the theater EVEN 
ONCE and we go to the movies a LOT!  I truly expected to see it before "Van 
Helsing" (I read somewhere it was being showing with that film -- btw, "Van 
Helsing" is a VERY silly movie, only worthwhile because Hugh Jackman is good in 
most anything he does).  It was not shown then, it has not been shown with any 
of the films we've seen, and we've seen "young audience" films like "13 going 
on 30" and that kind of thing.  I think WB needs to get over their "HP is young 
kids' territory" idea (which is obviously their thought, since they're just 
showing the trailer with things like Looney Tunes, Scooby-Doo and "Home on the 
Range," none of which I could convince my hubby to see in a theater).  
Hopefully as the movies continue, they'll get over the requirement for PG rating and 
let the movie go where it needs to to tell the stories in the best possible 
fashion (I don't mean an R rating, necessarily, but I think they're being 
constrained by trying to appeal to little kids so much).  Then again, I don't have 
little kids -- but when my kids were little, I would've been hesitant to read 
them some of the later books -- I think the audience will grow up with the 
books, and that little kids won't be hearing OoP and books 6 and 7 until they're 
old enough to understand without getting too scared.  I don't see JKR keeping 
the next books on a "little kids' level" myself, and I hope WB understands that 
the movies need to "grow up" too.  What we've heard about PoA so far sounds 
like they MIGHT be getting it, but where they've shown the trailers so far 
makes  me wonder if they really do understand how wide the HP audience actually is.

I'll get off my soapbox now!  ;->


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Fri May 21 13:38:31 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:38:31 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review
In-Reply-To: <c.29b9aa76.2ddf5d84@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001101c43f38$e8942d40$0400a8c0@pensive>

I saw the trailer with Shrek 2 and with Return of the Kings.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: artsylynda at aol.com [mailto:artsylynda at aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:26 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review


In a message dated 5/21/2004 6:27:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
> As a fan of the books who hated the first two movies, for lack of
> the elements mentioned in the above quotes...

I'm interested in seeing them too.  However, I also think the changes are
*somewhat* problematic.

I've heard comments about very young kids being 'spooked' or 'upset' about
seeing the trailers during the previews for some lighter kid movies.  This
may be for the percentage of very young kids, who haven't read the books
and are only familiar with the movies.

Hm, can't make everybody happy.

Dina

I have been VERY frustrated to not have seen the trailer in the theater EVEN

ONCE and we go to the movies a LOT!  I truly expected to see it before "Van 
Helsing" (I read somewhere it was being showing with that film -- btw, "Van 
Helsing" is a VERY silly movie, only worthwhile because Hugh Jackman is good
in 
most anything he does).  It was not shown then, it has not been shown with
any 
of the films we've seen, and we've seen "young audience" films like "13
going 
on 30" and that kind of thing.  I think WB needs to get over their "HP is
young 
kids' territory" idea (which is obviously their thought, since they're just 
showing the trailer with things like Looney Tunes, Scooby-Doo and "Home on
the 
Range," none of which I could convince my hubby to see in a theater).  
Hopefully as the movies continue, they'll get over the requirement for PG
rating and 
let the movie go where it needs to to tell the stories in the best possible 
fashion (I don't mean an R rating, necessarily, but I think they're being 
constrained by trying to appeal to little kids so much).  Then again, I
don't have 
little kids -- but when my kids were little, I would've been hesitant to
read 
them some of the later books -- I think the audience will grow up with the 
books, and that little kids won't be hearing OoP and books 6 and 7 until
they're 
old enough to understand without getting too scared.  I don't see JKR
keeping 
the next books on a "little kids' level" myself, and I hope WB understands
that 
the movies need to "grow up" too.  What we've heard about PoA so far sounds 
like they MIGHT be getting it, but where they've shown the trailers so far 
makes  me wonder if they really do understand how wide the HP audience
actually is.

I'll get off my soapbox now!  ;->


Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 21 15:26:46 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:26:46 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review
References: <001101c43f38$e8942d40$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <000c01c43f48$0abefb20$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>



I saw the new Shrek 2 yesterday afternoon, and it showed a new trailer for HP too.
I also saw a trailer before LOTR 3 movie too, and of course before Scooby Doo.
I am worried my son maybe a little scared by PoA... he is 5 years old... but I don't
think I could keep him away from seeing it either.  He has seen the trailer so many
times and is so excited and thrilled.  He saw the poster for HP at the theater yesterday,
and thought it was already out and got mad at me because we weren't seeing that
movie instead of Shrek 2.  lol... 

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherry Gomes 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:38 AM
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review


  I saw the trailer with Shrek 2 and with Return of the Kings.

  Sherry


  -----Original Message-----
  From: artsylynda at aol.com [mailto:artsylynda at aol.com] 
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:26 AM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA review


  In a message dated 5/21/2004 6:27:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
  HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
  > As a fan of the books who hated the first two movies, for lack of
  > the elements mentioned in the above quotes...

  I'm interested in seeing them too.  However, I also think the changes are
  *somewhat* problematic.

  I've heard comments about very young kids being 'spooked' or 'upset' about
  seeing the trailers during the previews for some lighter kid movies.  This
  may be for the percentage of very young kids, who haven't read the books
  and are only familiar with the movies.

  Hm, can't make everybody happy.

  Dina

  I have been VERY frustrated to not have seen the trailer in the theater EVEN

  ONCE and we go to the movies a LOT!  I truly expected to see it before "Van 
  Helsing" (I read somewhere it was being showing with that film -- btw, "Van 
  Helsing" is a VERY silly movie, only worthwhile because Hugh Jackman is good
  in 
  most anything he does).  It was not shown then, it has not been shown with
  any 
  of the films we've seen, and we've seen "young audience" films like "13
  going 
  on 30" and that kind of thing.  I think WB needs to get over their "HP is
  young 
  kids' territory" idea (which is obviously their thought, since they're just 
  showing the trailer with things like Looney Tunes, Scooby-Doo and "Home on
  the 
  Range," none of which I could convince my hubby to see in a theater).  
  Hopefully as the movies continue, they'll get over the requirement for PG
  rating and 
  let the movie go where it needs to to tell the stories in the best possible 
  fashion (I don't mean an R rating, necessarily, but I think they're being 
  constrained by trying to appeal to little kids so much).  Then again, I
  don't have 
  little kids -- but when my kids were little, I would've been hesitant to
  read 
  them some of the later books -- I think the audience will grow up with the 
  books, and that little kids won't be hearing OoP and books 6 and 7 until
  they're 
  old enough to understand without getting too scared.  I don't see JKR
  keeping 
  the next books on a "little kids' level" myself, and I hope WB understands
  that 
  the movies need to "grow up" too.  What we've heard about PoA so far sounds 
  like they MIGHT be getting it, but where they've shown the trailers so far 
  makes  me wonder if they really do understand how wide the HP audience
  actually is.

  I'll get off my soapbox now!  ;->


  Lynda 
  * * *
  ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 21 15:29:53 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:29:53 -0500
Subject: The Today Show
Message-ID: <001701c43f48$79f91a20$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>




Just curious if anyone saw the Today's Show this morning.  Al Roker did a short sneak peak on
his Dateline "Behind PoA" segment that will run on Sunday.  It showed clips of the movie (Hermione
being thrown around by the Whomping Willow tree) and a short clip of his interview with Daniel
Radcliffe.  

Kimberly
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mom to Jasper & Ashlynn (10/8/98)
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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri May 21 17:51:59 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 13:51:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] POA trailers
In-Reply-To: <001101c43f38$e8942d40$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <BCD3B9FF.A94%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


I saw the trailer with Shrek 2 and with Return of the Kings.

Sherry


I'm seeing it a lot, but you are right; it is on the "kiddie" channels like
Playhouse Disney, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network. I saw the poster on a bus
the other day. Exciting!

bewitchedbyhp



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From djs504 at lycos.com  Sat May 22 10:35:10 2004
From: djs504 at lycos.com (DEBRA JO SMITH)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 03:35:10 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Photo Search
Message-ID: <IKCLKOLPIFGODMAA@mailcity.com>

Hi, I belong to about 30 or so sites and one of them posted a photo of Daniel Radcliff standing against a wall looking dark and mysterious, was it this one and could someone send me the link, Please! I accidentally deleted it before coping the link to my files. Please mark your email as Harry Potter Photo.

Thanks a bunch!
Debby
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From ekrbdg at msn.com  Sat May 22 11:20:18 2004
From: ekrbdg at msn.com (Kimberly)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:20:18 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Photo Search
References: <IKCLKOLPIFGODMAA@mailcity.com>
Message-ID: <006801c43fee$c6f492e0$5de0f943@hppav>



> Hi, I belong to about 30 or so sites and one of them posted a photo of
Daniel Radcliff standing against a wall looking dark and mysterious, was it
this one and could someone send me the link, Please! I accidentally deleted
it before coping the link to my files. Please mark your email as Harry
Potter Photo.
>
> Thanks a bunch!
> Debby
> djs504 at lycos.com
>
>

Here you go, I think this is the one you mean.      For some reason though I
just went there and his pic doesn't show up.      See if it works for you.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/14/1084289870874.html

Kimberly


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From mcdee1980 at yahoo.com  Sat May 22 17:01:33 2004
From: mcdee1980 at yahoo.com (mcdee1980)
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:01:33 -0000
Subject: POA trailers
Message-ID: <c8o11d+4a4q@eGroups.com>

I actually saw a trailer during an NBA semifinals game this week, but 
I'm not sure if I was watching ESPN or TNT.  I think it was during 
the last Kings/Timberwolves game, so the advertising seems to be 
spreading out as we get a little closer to the release date.  I'm 
actually very surprised that we're not seeing it every five minutes 
on every major channel.  Maybe WB thinks it doesn't need any 
advertising! (Maybe they're right)

Lady McBeth





From patientx3 at aol.com  Sun May 23 04:25:19 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:25:19 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] RE: POA trailers
Message-ID: <132.2ee04133.2de181af@aol.com>

Lady Macbeth wrote:
>>I'm actually very surprised that we're not seeing it every five minutes 
on every major channel.  Maybe WB thinks it doesn't need any 
advertising!<<

It might heat up in the next week or so. I've been seeing about one or two a 
day, just not during prime time (the ones I've seen have been on local 
channels, and on animal planet and TNT). I'm surprised at the *number* of different 
TV ads that have come out so far. (I realize there are some movies that have 
*many*, but usually there's one or two of those that they show *all the time* 
and the rest hardly show up at all and just end up on the DVD somehow).
Speaking of trailers, I saw Shrek 2 on Thursday and saw the second U.S. 
trailer in the theater for the first time (with a few additional scenes, the Knight 
Bus squishing between two other buses, and Harry falling during the quidditch 
match). I felt silly about it, but I got chills up my arms during the whole 
thing. (It'll probably be the only time I see the trailer in the theater, I 
only saw the other one once too, and I see movies all the time). Anyone who wants 
to see the trailer, I would suggest going to see Shrek 2, which is a lot 
easier (for an adult) to sit through than Scooby-Doo or Loony Tunes.


-Rebecca


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From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 04:41:29 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 04:41:29 -0000
Subject: PoA review
In-Reply-To: <c.29b9aa76.2ddf5d84@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8pa1p+1e5g@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/21/2004 6:27:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:

> I think WB needs to get over their "HP is young 
> kids' territory" idea (which is obviously their thought, since 
they're just 
> showing the trailer with things like Looney Tunes, Scooby-Doo 
and "Home on the 
> Range," none of which I could convince my hubby to see in a 
theater)....I don't see JKR keeping 
> the next books on a "little kids' level" myself, and I hope WB 
understands that 
> the movies need to "grow up" too.  What we've heard about PoA so 
far sounds 
> like they MIGHT be getting it, but where they've shown the 
trailers so far 
> makes  me wonder if they really do understand how wide the HP 
audience actually is.
> 
> I'll get off my soapbox now!  ;->
> 
> 
> Lynda 
> * * *
> ". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

My biggest issue with the first couple of films has not been that 
it's directed at children (as it should be) it's that the forces 
behind it are so obviously condescending to them. 

It's like they expect young minds not to be able deduce things for 
themselves...Or that that process would not be fun for them.

A couple of scenes spring to mind as examples...When Harry's broom 
is cursed during the quidditch match, the camera lingers on 
Professor Q. a bit too long. Sure, much of the audience knows he did 
it, but even an eight year-old would be more than suspicious after 
that shot. It ruined the fun it FIGURING things out. 

Another scene that really bugs me, is the Fluffy waking up scene... 
The dog lingering for soooo long over the kids' heads (when it could 
have bitten them about 20 times...) REALLY took me out of the movie 
and into bad cartoon spin-off mode.

The Pixar films are examples of how to tell a great story WITHOUT 
talking down to your audience. Finding Nemo was an excellent family 
film, period. Sure it was cute and funny but it handled the larger 
themes, deftly. 

I could detect no condescension, at all.

I can only hope, regardless of what ratings the future films will 
be, that they will carry the same respect for their audience as 
Pixar. :-)

@)---daughter

P.S. I saw Shrek 2 this weekend...and I actually thought it had the 
opposite problem...The adults in the audience loved all the "in" 
jokes...The kids got restless.

A happy medium is best. :-)







 




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 23 04:42:32 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 04:42:32 -0000
Subject: what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
In-Reply-To: <c8j468+je12@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8pa3o+90va@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "overgyou" <overgyou at y...> wrote:
> The scene that really jumps to mind is the freeing of Dobby from 
> CoS.  If I recall correctly, in the book, Harry puts Tom's diary in 
> his sock, and hands it to Lucius, who then hands it to Dobby.  Thus, 
> Malfoy ends up looking like an idiot for forgetting the clothes 
> rule.  Compare that to the movie, where Harry tricks Malfoy into 
> giving Dobby clothes by putting his sock inside the diary.  The 
> latter method was just a lot more palatable, and doesn't require us 
> to believe someone as clever and ruthless as Draco's dad would act in 
> such a dumb fashion.
> 
> The other touch I liked better from the movies was when Harry first 
> meets Quirrel in the Sorcerer's Stone.  In the book, they actually 
> shake hands, whereas in the movie, the professor does a nervous hand 
> wringing thing, and thus doesn't have any physical contact with Harry 
> until the final scene.

I thought of a couple of my favorite moments from CoS, I don't know
that they are better than the book, but I've always thought the acting
and pace are superb in:

1.  The scene at the Weasley's, when Arthur comes in and asks about
the rubber duck, and Molly tells him about the car.  The timing is
perfect, and I love that little smirk Harry gives Ron.  

2.  When Harry and Ron confront Lockheart, again the timing is great
and the emotions of the actors just pop.

imamommy




From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 04:51:59 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 04:51:59 -0000
Subject: Films You'd Like to See the Potter Films Borrow From...
Message-ID: <c8palf+dkm7@eGroups.com>

This came to mind after my last response...

I was wondering if anyone can think of films that you'd like see the 
future Potter films borrow from and/or have a similar air...Be that 
the intelligence, spirit, atmosphere, etc...

Which ones spring to mind and why?

For me...

Two, that immediately come to mind are:

Something Wicked This Way Comes - aside from the nifty song in the 
commercial, the film (based on the Ray Bradbury story) was a neat 
little gem. It had a wonderful gothic mystery feel and just enough 
creepiness to sustain interest without being too scary

and 

Young Sherlock Holmes - The special effects in this films REALLY 
hold up well (incidentally, this film marks the first modern 
integration of CGI in a film) and I also loved the speilburgian 
whimsy, again, the gothic feel, and the way the young actors handled 
themselves...

So what are your picks?

@)--/--- daughter




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sun May 23 05:31:47 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:31:47 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
References: <c8pa3o+90va@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c4408a$12883f40$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  I thought of a couple of my favorite moments from CoS, I don't know
  that they are better than the book, but I've always thought the acting
  and pace are superb in:

  1.  The scene at the Weasley's, when Arthur comes in and asks about
  the rubber duck, and Molly tells him about the car.  The timing is
  perfect, and I love that little smirk Harry gives Ron.>>

  I love this seen... "what exactly is the purpose to the rubber duck" or
  something to that affect.  I also love when Molly tells Arthur all 
  about their "road trip", and he asked them how it was flying the car.
  LOL!  It just cracks me up every time, and such a man thing to say to his
  "boys".  The only thing that did bug me about this scene is that all the 
  actors look up before the owl or mention of the owl comes and slams in 
  the window.  

  2.  When Harry and Ron confront Lockheart, again the timing is great
  and the emotions of the actors just pop.>>

  "Are you going somewhere?"  LOL!  Can you tell I just watched the last 30 minutes of CoS tonight on
  HBO.  :-)  I know people are going to think I am nuts, but I think my favorite scene in CoS is when
  Harry gives Dobby the sock and then Dobby protects Harry... "You must not hurt Harry Potter"  I loved/hated
  Lucius Malfory.  I don't like the character, but I love the actor.  If they do OotP movie, I can't wait to see
  him "fight" as a Death Eater.  :-)
  Kimberly




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From redina at silverbloom.net  Sun May 23 07:36:35 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 03:36:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA review
In-Reply-To: <c8pa1p+1e5g@eGroups.com>
References: <c.29b9aa76.2ddf5d84@aol.com> <c8pa1p+1e5g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1184.4.12.232.27.1085297795.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

daughterofthedust said:

> It's like they expect young minds not to be able deduce things for
> themselves...Or that that process would not be fun for them.

I think you're being a bit generous for some... and I'm not necessarily
talking about young minds.


> A happy medium is best. :-)

Which is probably why the HP books have a large following.  The next trick
is to translate this 'magic' onto the bigscreen.

Dina




From joj at rochester.rr.com  Sun May 23 11:39:05 2004
From: joj at rochester.rr.com (joj)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 07:39:05 -0400
Subject: Newsweek review
Message-ID: <000801c440ba$8e01e4c0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w>

Newsweek has a review of POA, which is positive, but it's more like an interview piece from a reporter who's seen the movie, rather than a straight review.  Regardless, I'll take it!  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5040564/

Some interesting quotes-

*In "Azkaban," Cuaron keeps the camera moving, using very few close-ups, which adds to the eerie sense that Harry is being stalked. The result is a film that's really moving-and really moves.*  

*Of course, all of Cuaron's efforts would have been for naught if the three stars-Daniel Radcliffe (Harry), Emma Watson (Hermione) and Rupert Grint (Ron)-weren't up to the task. But their performances, Radcliffe's in particular, are far more impressive this time around.*

*to inspire Radcliffe for a scene in which he had to appear awed, Cuaron told him, "Pretend you're seeing Cameron Diaz in a G-string."*

*"Azkaban" is likely to make Radcliffe not just more famous but totally crush-worthy. In addition to growing as actors, Radcliffe and Watson in particular have blossomed into physically beautiful teens. *


I can't wait to see this movie!

Joj
 

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From annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 23 13:50:37 2004
From: annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk (annelilucas)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 13:50:37 -0000
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Bellatrix as Richard III
In-Reply-To: <502C27106D99DB478C13DEDBFD185E15A80A61@EUR-MSG-12.europe.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <c8qa7d+j1kv@eGroups.com>

> Dumbledad:
> Did anyone else enjoy Fiona Shaw playing Richard II in the Deborah
> Warner / John Wyver production of Shakespeare's play? If she wasn't
> already Aunt Petunia, I'd have liked to see her play Bellatrix.

Anneli:
Her performance as Richard II totally blew me away - it would've been
great if she could've had a bigger part in the HP films, she's wasted
on Petunia!

Anneli





From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun May 23 14:00:37 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:00:37 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA trailers
Message-ID: <104.4724a49d.2de20885@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/23/2004 5:50:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I'm 
actually very surprised that we're not seeing it every five minutes 
on every major channel.  Maybe WB thinks it doesn't need any 
advertising! (Maybe they're right)

Lady McBeth

We went to see "Troy" last night and despite them advertising LOADS of WB 
movies, including such things as "Catwoman" which probably has a HP crossover 
audience (fantasy/adventure kind of stuff) and "Riddick" (same kind of thing, but 
more gritty), there was NO Harry Potter trailer.  When we went to see "Return 
of the King" there was no HP trailer.  I guess I'm doomed to only see them 
online -- BUT!!  I have our HP PoA tickets in my wallet now!  We're going to see 
it Friday at 4:20!  YAY!

And wasn't that a nice interview with Dan in "Parade" today?  There were 
actually "fresh" questions and answers!  I imagine most of the articles we've seen 
have been cobbled together from press packets, rather than actual interviews 
-- or else the cast and director have been asked the same questions so many 
times, their answers have become "pat."  I wish they'd picked a nicer pic of 
"now Dan" for the cover -- he looks like he's about to burst out laughing, not 
the best look.  The pics on Parade's website are wonderful, though, as is the 
one in the article.



Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Sun May 23 14:01:11 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 07:01:11 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Newsweek review
References: <000801c440ba$8e01e4c0$a8614242@bumbargefsmy9w>
Message-ID: <001c01c440ce$67a195a0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

Thank you so much for the link.  I found another quote that I thought was interesting...

*Although Warner Bros. initially signed the kids to just one movie at a time, fearing they might grow too tall or get tired of the job, the studio has now offered to lock them in for the remaining four pictures. The teens, though, are still taking it movie by movie.

Well I wish it was directly from Warner Bros. but maybe now people can relax a bit about the "will they or won't they?" question.  I know it is still up to the kids, but it is getting to be a bit like the cast of a TV show.  If one decides it is time to leave they will probably offer them a ton more money to stay for the last 1 or 2 films.  Warner Bros. knows they would have a horrible time trying to sell a new lead. 

Heather
(who will be seeing POA in 7 HOURS!!!)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: joj 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:39 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Newsweek review


  Newsweek has a review of POA, which is positive, but it's more like an interview piece from a reporter who's seen the movie, rather than a straight review.  Regardless, I'll take it!  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5040564/

  Some interesting quotes-

  *In "Azkaban," Cuaron keeps the camera moving, using very few close-ups, which adds to the eerie sense that Harry is being stalked. The result is a film that's really moving-and really moves.*  

  *Of course, all of Cuaron's efforts would have been for naught if the three stars-Daniel Radcliffe (Harry), Emma Watson (Hermione) and Rupert Grint (Ron)-weren't up to the task. But their performances, Radcliffe's in particular, are far more impressive this time around.*

  *to inspire Radcliffe for a scene in which he had to appear awed, Cuaron told him, "Pretend you're seeing Cameron Diaz in a G-string."*

  *"Azkaban" is likely to make Radcliffe not just more famous but totally crush-worthy. In addition to growing as actors, Radcliffe and Watson in particular have blossomed into physically beautiful teens. *


  I can't wait to see this movie!

  Joj


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun May 23 14:04:50 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:04:50 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]what scenes do you think the movies did better than the books
Message-ID: <1cc.21a0347b.2de20982@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/23/2004 5:50:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I thought of a couple of my favorite moments from CoS, I don't know
that they are better than the book, but I've always thought the acting
and pace are superb in:

1.  The scene at the Weasley's, when Arthur comes in and asks about
the rubber duck, and Molly tells him about the car.  The timing is
perfect, and I love that little smirk Harry gives Ron.  

2.  When Harry and Ron confront Lockheart, again the timing is great
and the emotions of the actors just pop.

imamommy

One of my favorite moments in the first two movies is just an instant in time 
-- Harry's reaction when Vernon says "And you?" and Harry says "I'll be in my 
room staying quite and pretending I don't exist" (or whatever the line is) -- 
Dan delivered that just perfectly.  I love the rubber duck scene too.  Oh 
another is when Harry laughs so naturally at Ron when the broom whacks Ron (when 
they're first saying "UP!" to the brooms).  I wonder how many takes that took, 
to get that perfectly natural giggle, and Ron's "Oh shut up!"  heehee.  Well 
done all around!



Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Sun May 23 14:12:33 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 07:12:33 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA review
References: <c8pa1p+1e5g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002701c440cf$fe34d620$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

>My biggest issue with the first couple of films has not been that 
>it's directed at children (as it should be) it's that the forces 
>behind it are so obviously condescending to them. 

>It's like they expect young minds not to be able deduce things for 
>themselves...Or that that process would not be fun for them.
@)---daughter


I comepletely agree.  Another blatant example was the stripping of much of the book's humor for more "home alone" slapstick moments.  They completely remove the jokes about Hagrid's coat and how he can pull anything from it in favor of having Nevil bounce around (with some particularly bad special effects) the castle for 5 minutes on his broom. 

 I think JK should have insisted on a Brittish director!

I guess we will see how GOF turns out.

Heather 



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From ppahuja1 at yahoo.com  Sun May 23 18:20:28 2004
From: ppahuja1 at yahoo.com (ppahuja1)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 18:20:28 -0000
Subject: POA trailers
In-Reply-To: <132.2ee04133.2de181af@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8qq1c+858l@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Speaking of trailers, I saw Shrek 2 on Thursday and saw the second 
U.S. 
> trailer in the theater for the first time (with a few additional 
scenes, the Knight 
> Bus squishing between two other buses, and Harry falling during the 
quidditch 
> match). I felt silly about it, but I got chills up my arms during 
the whole 
> thing. (It'll probably be the only time I see the trailer in the 
theater, I 
> only saw the other one once too, and I see movies all the time). 
Anyone who wants 
> to see the trailer, I would suggest going to see Shrek 2, which is 
a lot 
> easier (for an adult) to sit through than Scooby-Doo or Loony Tunes.
> 


OK--so now I am even more irritated.  I have been dying to see the 
HP3 trailer on the big screen.  I just could not make myself sit 
through Scooby or Looney Tunes.  

I nagged, cajoled and essentially forced my friends to go see Shrek 2 
(which they wanted to see but not on opening weekend b/c of the 
crowds).

So what happens??  HUGE CROWDS and no HP3 trailer.  I kept my fingers 
crosses while sitting through trailers for at least 5 different 
movies (one of which is coming out in NOVEMBER!!!!) 

It figures....

Pam--who has resigned herself to the fact that she will never see the 
trailer but at least the movie is almost here...




From patientx3 at aol.com  Sun May 23 20:21:01 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:21:01 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA trailers
Message-ID: <d1.d604572.2de261ad@aol.com>

Pam wrote:
>>I nagged, cajoled and essentially forced my friends to go see Shrek 2 
(which they wanted to see but not on opening weekend b/c of the 
crowds).

So what happens??  HUGE CROWDS and no HP3 trailer.  I kept my fingers 
crosses while sitting through trailers for at least 5 different 
movies (one of which is coming out in NOVEMBER!!!!) <<

That's unfortunate. Half the reason why I wanted to see Shrek 2 (I'll admit 
it was half) was to see the trailer in theaters. Of course I had high hopes 
when I saw Return of the King to see the first trailer, and it was only 
Chronicles of Riddick, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow and Spiderman 2 (which 
I've seen the trailer for about 1,000 times). You should try seeing it again at a 
different theater, when I saw Return of the King the second time (at a 
different theater), I saw the trailer then. Its annoying how select they're being 
about what movies they put the PoA trailer in front of, last October/November 
EVERY movie I saw had a preview for Love Actually (which isn't even a big-budget 
film).


-Rebecca


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Mon May 24 04:07:46 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:07:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <c8qa7d+j1kv@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCD6ED52.AB7%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

I just watched "The Secret Garden" with my children on video. Maggie Smith
(though I'll always know her as Professor McGonegal), played the mean old
Mrs. Medlock. This is the only other role I've seen her play (I'm not up on
my British films); it was weird to see her play someone mean! Even though
they changed the ending so that she turned nice.

bewitchedbyHP 



From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 24 04:07:58 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:07:58 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
Message-ID: <1ce.21cb59ee.2de2cf1e@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/23/04 9:01:27 PM, valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:


> I just watched "The Secret Garden" with my children on video. Maggie Smith
> (though I'll always know her as Professor McGonegal), played the mean old
> Mrs. Medlock. This is the only other role I've seen her play (I'm not up on
> my British films); it was weird to see her play someone mean! Even though
> they changed the ending so that she turned nice.
> 

You should see her as Aunt Betsy Trotwood in the BBC production of David 
Copperfield with a 10 yr. old Daniel Radcliffe ;-) She's brusque and seemingly 
mean at first, but her real nature is revealed later on and she certainly loves 
David ;-)
She's done tons of films though; a very long and distinguished career. The 
Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is perhaps her best known - she was nominated for an 
Oscar for it. She won an Oscar for California Suite in the 70's.
Not to mention her long career in the theater. She didn't get made a 'Dame' 
for nothing <g>
Cindy


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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 04:24:42 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:24:42 -0000
Subject: webcast for European premier?
Message-ID: <c8rtea+i6g6@eGroups.com>

Anyone know if they will be doing a webcast of the Eropean premier? 
Even though they have had interviewers in the past who have 
obviously never read one of the books, it's still so fun to watch!

Thanks for any info!

~Deborah




From jillily3g at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 04:28:50 2004
From: jillily3g at yahoo.com (Beth)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:28:50 -0000
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <1ce.21cb59ee.2de2cf1e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8rtm2+103mf@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 5/23/04 9:01:27 PM, valerie.flowe at v... writes:
> 
> 
> > I just watched "The Secret Garden" with my children on video. 
Maggie Smith (though I'll always know her as Professor McGonegal), 
played the mean old Mrs. Medlock. This is the only other role I've 
seen her play (I'm not up on my British films); it was weird to see 
her play someone mean! Even though they changed the ending so that 
she turned nice.
> > 
> 
> You should see her as Aunt Betsy Trotwood in the BBC production of 
David  Copperfield with a 10 yr. old Daniel Radcliffe ;-) She's 
brusque and seemingly  mean at first, but her real nature is 
revealed later on and she certainly loves  David ;-) She's done tons 
of films though; a very long and distinguished career. The  Prime of 
Miss Jean Brodie is perhaps her best known - she was nominated for 
an  Oscar for it. She won an Oscar for California Suite in the 70's. 
Not to mention her long career in the theater. She didn't get made 
a 'Dame'  for nothing <g>
> Cindy
> 
Beth: I enjoyed listening to her southern (U.S.) accent in "Divine 
Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood" (although the book was better) and 
I just rented "My House In Umbria", in which she plays a very non-
McGonagall character opposite Timothy Spall. 

For a list of her films (and a great picture!), try here: 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001749/

Beth, who'd remembered "Clash of the Titans" and "Sister Act", but 
had forgotten "Hook".





From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Mon May 24 04:31:46 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:31:46 -0000
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
Message-ID: <c8rtrj+5cpl@eGroups.com>

Hey all!
I went to visit the in-laws in Tucson this weekend and my sister-in-
law asked if I wanted to take her 8 year old so she and her hubby 
could pack for their camping trip and my two boys to see Harry 
Potter - they had won 4 free passes on the radio last Thursday. So, 
at 11:30 I headed to the theater with the three boys and their 
gameboys to keep them occupied since it was a 2 pm show. We already 
had like 30 people in front of us but it was worth the wait. It was 
awesome. Alfonso is most definitely different than Chris. I love the 
first two movies but I think I like Alfonso's style better so thank 
you, Mr. Heyman for hiring him - you are definitely now my favorite 
producer now. 
I will try not spoil it for any of you but I will give you all one 
piece of advice - go in thinking of seeing a great film about Harry 
Potter and try not to compare it to the book like I kept doing 
subconsciously - had to tell myself to stop it about half way 
through - as there are LOADS of differences. Some good some well just 
different. Seems to be a bit more than the first two films even but 
still it was awesome - way better than the first two.  The dementors 
were brilliant. Way scarier and more brilliantly done than the Ring 
Wraiths if you ask me. I loved the punch scene - Go Hermione Go! The 
Shrieking Shack scene and the time turner scenes were my favorites. 
David Thewlis and Gary Oldman were brilliant as Remus and Sirius. 
Remus seemed a little more like he is in book 5 - he was a very 
comforting person. I know there has been loads of discussion about 
Gary not being good looking enough for Sirius but he is Sirius and 
you could still see a handsome man underneath his scruffy dirty 
appearance. (Except his teeth - man needs a toothbrush big time 
before I would kiss him).Timothy Spall as Pettigrew was really creepy 
and rat like - perfect. The trio have definitely improved as actors. 
Seemed to really act naturally this time around - nothing seemed 
forced and they really seemed to BE Harry, Ron and Hermione. Still 
cannot decide who Hermione likes. Michael Gambon makes a great 
Dumbledore - funny, a strong presence and full of great wisdom and 
understanding but yes is different than Richard Harris who was 
Dumbledore as I had envisioned him when reading the books. I had one 
minor disappointment but if I say anything now it will spoil it for 
everyone so suffice it to say it is a small thing relating to the map 
and after everyone sees it we can decide if it really is an important 
thing or not. I am sure it will come up on this list anyway. And yes 
I will honestly say I do still plan to see it again on the 4th. (and 
maybe a few more times after that). Anyway, hope this didn't spoil 
anything for you all, I was just so excited about seeing it, I had to 
let everyone know it is absolutely brilliant.

Theresa
PS: Sorry one tiny spoiler - yes the choir is in there but it is ok 
where they placed it.




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Mon May 24 04:39:58 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:39:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <1ce.21cb59ee.2de2cf1e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BCD6F4DE.AC2%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


You should see her as Aunt Betsy Trotwood in the BBC production of David
Copperfield with a 10 yr. old Daniel Radcliffe ;-) She's brusque and
seemingly 
mean at first, but her real nature is revealed later on and she certainly
loves 
David ;-)
She's done tons of films though; a very long and distinguished career. The
Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is perhaps her best known - she was nominated for
an 
Oscar for it. She won an Oscar for California Suite in the 70's.
Not to mention her long career in the theater. She didn't get made a 'Dame'
for nothing <g>
Cindy

Thanks! I'll see if I can check some of those out.
bewitchedbyHP



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From bewitchedbyhp at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 04:13:17 2004
From: bewitchedbyhp at yahoo.com (bewitchedbyhp)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:13:17 -0000
Subject: pix of the New York Premiere
Message-ID: <c8rsot+cmb0@eGroups.com>

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/main/

Some nice pix of the premiere. 
Was there a "Behind the Scenes", "Making of POA" on Dateline 
NBC on Sunday 5/23? Anyone see it??
Don't forget to tune in to the Today Show Monday AM, and Conan 
O'Brien on Tuesday PM. 




From clshannon at aol.com  Mon May 24 05:17:41 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 01:17:41 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] pix of the New York Premiere
Message-ID: <143.29f467a3.2de2df75@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/23/04 10:08:26 PM, bewitchedbyhp at yahoo.com writes:


> Some nice pix of the premiere.
> Was there a "Behind the Scenes", "Making of POA" on Dateline
> NBC on Sunday 5/23? Anyone see it??
> 

Of course, with VCR revved up and ready!
It was really good - they showed some scenes being filmed, so we could see 
Dan and Emma hooked up to wire harnesses and being thrown around by the willow, 
which was not there of course (the magic of CGI). Dan was interviewed by Al 
Roker and was adorable, as always. He was particularly sweet when Al asked him 
about how things have changed with all the kids since they are older and Dan 
said something like, they talk about different things now. Al asked him what 
they talked about and Dan invented a new language - mumbling something about the 
question and shyly ducking the question ;-) It was cute.
They also talked to Emma about how Hermione was a bit more forceful in this 
one. 
Also had a short bit with Gary Oldman which was really nice to see. He talked 
about his reputation as always being the bad guy.
Danradcliffe.com has the video up, but it's a big one, so be warned if you 
want to download it. Plus it won't be up for long since the site will crash 
eventually with everyone trying to get it.
Thank goodness I have it on a regular old VHS tape. Downloading it would be 
almost impossible with my old dial-up ;-)
I can't remember any more details on the bit, I haven't watched it again yet, 
but plan to watch it again real soon. 

And yes, don't forget Dan on The Today Show tomorrow and on Conan on Tuesday 
(now, THAT should be interesting <g>)

And speaking of the pics from the NY premiere, danradcliffe.com has a gallery 
up and I am sure many other web pages do too. It was nice to see Alan Rickman 
in the group shots with the kids, Robbie Coltrane, Chris Columbus, Alfonso 
and David Heyman. I don't think he was in any pics for the COS premiere, that I 
can recall.
Definitely system overload right now with all the Potter stuff!
Cindy


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From Martina.Frost at azwebmail.midwestern.edu  Mon May 24 04:53:56 2004
From: Martina.Frost at azwebmail.midwestern.edu (Martina )
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 21:53:56 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
Message-ID: <200405232153.AA316866908@azwebmail.midwestern.edu>

We went to see Shrek 2 this afternoon at Park Mall Theaters in Tucson, AZ - and what did I see as we walked up the stairs ... HP3 was playing in one of the theaters!! I had no idea it was playing today in Tucson or I would have tried to move heaven and earth to get in!  And then tonight I didn't realize that Dateline on NBC was a 2-hour deal and only set my VCR for the second hour which definitely did not have the HP section in it ... I am just bummed all around! 

Martina in Tucson


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Theresa" <anmsmom333 at cox.net>
Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Date:  Mon, 24 May 2004 04:31:46 -0000

>Hey all!
>I went to visit the in-laws in Tucson this weekend and my sister-in-
>law asked if I wanted to take her 8 year old so she and her hubby 
>could pack for their camping trip and my two boys to see Harry 
>Potter - they had won 4 free passes on the radio last Thursday. So, 
>at 11:30 I headed to the theater with the three boys and their 
>gameboys to keep them occupied since it was a 2 pm show. We already 
>had like 30 people in front of us but it was worth the wait. It was 
>awesome. Alfonso is most definitely different than Chris. I love the 
>first two movies but I think I like Alfonso's style better so thank 
>you, Mr. Heyman for hiring him - you are definitely now my favorite 
>producer now. 
>I will try not spoil it for any of you but I will give you all one 
>piece of advice - go in thinking of seeing a great film about Harry 
>Potter and try not to compare it to the book like I kept doing 
>subconsciously - had to tell myself to stop it about half way 
>through - as there are LOADS of differences. Some good some well just 
>different. Seems to be a bit more than the first two films even but 
>still it was awesome - way better than the first two.  The dementors 
>were brilliant. Way scarier and more brilliantly done than the Ring 
>Wraiths if you ask me. I loved the punch scene - Go Hermione Go! The 
>Shrieking Shack scene and the time turner scenes were my favorites. 
>David Thewlis and Gary Oldman were brilliant as Remus and Sirius. 
>Remus seemed a little more like he is in book 5 - he was a very 
>comforting person. I know there has been loads of discussion about 
>Gary not being good looking enough for Sirius but he is Sirius and 
>you could still see a handsome man underneath his scruffy dirty 
>appearance. (Except his teeth - man needs a toothbrush big time 
>before I would kiss him).Timothy Spall as Pettigrew was really creepy 
>and rat like - perfect. The trio have definitely improved as actors. 
>Seemed to really act naturally this time around - nothing seemed 
>forced and they really seemed to BE Harry, Ron and Hermione. Still 
>cannot decide who Hermione likes. Michael Gambon makes a great 
>Dumbledore - funny, a strong presence and full of great wisdom and 
>understanding but yes is different than Richard Harris who was 
>Dumbledore as I had envisioned him when reading the books. I had one 
>minor disappointment but if I say anything now it will spoil it for 
>everyone so suffice it to say it is a small thing relating to the map 
>and after everyone sees it we can decide if it really is an important 
>thing or not. I am sure it will come up on this list anyway. And yes 
>I will honestly say I do still plan to see it again on the 4th. (and 
>maybe a few more times after that). Anyway, hope this didn't spoil 
>anything for you all, I was just so excited about seeing it, I had to 
>let everyone know it is absolutely brilliant.
>
>Theresa
>PS: Sorry one tiny spoiler - yes the choir is in there but it is ok 
>where they placed it.
>
>
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From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May 24 10:13:43 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 06:13:43 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
Message-ID: <ac.58b78060.2de324d7@aol.com>

Theresa wrote:

>> The trio have definitely improved as actors. 
Seemed to really act naturally this time around - nothing seemed 
forced and they really seemed to BE Harry, Ron and Hermione. <<

That alone makes PoA *much* better than the first two. In CoS, nearly all of 
the movie seemed forced and awkward. If more of the movie is changed from the 
book than the way Columbus might have done it I don't really care, at least I 
won't be constantly reminded that I'm watching a movie.

>>And yes I will honestly say I do still plan to see it again on the 4th. 
(and 
maybe a few more times after that). <<

I had early tickets to see Kill Bill 2 (only two days early) and I ended up 
seeing it on the day it came out as well. I felt like such a dork when people 
asked me later at work if I'd seen it yet, I couldn't bring myself to say 
"Twice." (oddly enough, though, I haven't seen it since).
Any chance you'll send a spoiler-ish review in (and label it as such)? 
Because I have given up on not being spoiled and would *love* to hear more specifics 
on the movie (I'm really curious about Snape at the end of the movie, do they 
have him yelling and screaming at the end, or is that cut out? I don't want 
to look forward to it and have it not be there).

-Rebecca


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From patientx3 at aol.com  Mon May 24 12:26:58 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:26:58 EDT
Subject: PoA Themed Candy
Message-ID: <9b.4846c06f.2de34412@aol.com>

I was in my local grocery store last night and they have a stand of various 
Harry Potterish candy. There were four different kinds (including "Bertie 
Botts" jellybeans of course, and one of them was 'ice mice', I can't remember the 
others unfortunately, but I glanced at them and they didn't look that 
appetizing). I might go back and buy at least one of them, just because its so 
interesting to see something from the books come to life like that.

-Rebecca
PS. The same store had a stand of PoA paperback books for sale, just in time 
for the movie.


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon May 24 13:18:56 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 07:18:56 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <BCD6ED52.AB7%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <001701c44191$ac177ba0$0400a8c0@pensive>

She also played the grown up Wendy in the movie Hook with Robin Williams as
Peter Pan grown up.  She was a nice character in that one.

sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Flowe [mailto:valerie.flowe at verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:08 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith


I just watched "The Secret Garden" with my children on video. Maggie Smith
(though I'll always know her as Professor McGonegal), played the mean old
Mrs. Medlock. This is the only other role I've seen her play (I'm not up on
my British films); it was weird to see her play someone mean! Even though
they changed the ending so that she turned nice.

bewitchedbyHP 



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From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 15:43:30 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:43:30 -0000
Subject: what scenes do you think the movie did better than the books?
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  Let's not forget "...follow the butterflies".

  Brian:-)




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Mon May 24 16:08:32 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:08:32 -0000
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <ac.58b78060.2de324d7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> Any chance you'll send a spoiler-ish review in (and label it as 
such)? 
> Because I have given up on not being spoiled and would *love* to 
hear more specifics 
> on the movie (I'm really curious about Snape at the end of the 
movie, do they 
> have him yelling and screaming at the end, or is that cut out? I 
don't want 
> to look forward to it and have it not be there).
> 
> -Rebecca

I would be happy to give a spoiler-ish review and mark it as such but 
if the majority of the group would rather I not I could just send it 
via email to you. What is the consensus from the group?

Theresa




From siskiou at vcem.com  Mon May 24 16:12:35 2004
From: siskiou at vcem.com (Susanne)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:12:35 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
References: <ac.58b78060.2de324d7@aol.com> <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <579288402.20040524091235@vcem.com>



Hi,

Monday, May 24, 2004, 9:08:32 AM, anmsmom333 at cox.net wrote:

> What is the consensus from the group?


My vote is for spoilers, but if you decide not to send them
to the group, could you send it via email to me, too,
please?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Mon May 24 16:24:40 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 09:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040524162440.36776.qmail@web80305.mail.yahoo.com>

I would love to read a spoiler-ish review!

Gretchen

--- Theresa <anmsmom333 at cox.net> wrote:

I would be happy to give a spoiler-ish review and mark
it as such but 
if the majority of the group would rather I not I
could just send it 
via email to you. What is the consensus from the
group?

Theresa

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From CMeehan1 at aol.com  Mon May 24 16:30:23 2004
From: CMeehan1 at aol.com (CMeehan1 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:30:23 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
Message-ID: <29.58669f9d.2de37d1f@aol.com>

I feel like I've seen so much of it already I might as well know more!

Thanks for sharing!


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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon May 24 19:25:55 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:25:55 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <579288402.20040524091235@vcem.com>
Message-ID: <000601c441c4$f0453780$0400a8c0@pensive>

I'd like spoilers, too, or if not, please send to me.  thanks.

sherry

sherriola at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Susanne [mailto:siskiou at vcem.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:13 AM
To: Theresa
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!




Hi,

Monday, May 24, 2004, 9:08:32 AM, anmsmom333 at cox.net wrote:

> What is the consensus from the group?


My vote is for spoilers, but if you decide not to send them
to the group, could you send it via email to me, too,
please?

-- 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at vcem.com





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From hgranger919 at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 10:49:55 2004
From: hgranger919 at yahoo.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 03:49:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Maggie Smith
Message-ID: <20040524104955.62290.qmail@web90009.mail.scd.yahoo.com>

Her recent performance in Gosford Park was delightful and I recommend it highly!
 
Suzanne

		






From sluther.nyc at verizon.net  Mon May 24 16:13:09 2004
From: sluther.nyc at verizon.net (splnyc)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:13:09 -0000
Subject: Saw P.O.A. - What happened to Hagrid's hut and the willow?
Message-ID: <c8t6ul+9l9a@eGroups.com>

The one thing I take issue with from the film is that he changes 
Hagrid's hut and the whomping willow. They were already prominently 
featured in the other movies and the hut and the willow were clearly 
surronded by lawn behind the castle. Now they are both on a very 
steep hillside. It looks like ther was an earthquake between movioes 
2 and 3 and the hut and willow slid down a cliff!

Overall, though, I think the move was fast paced, exciting, action-
packed and great performances from all the kids. It was really 
electifying to view it at the world premiere at Radio City with 5,000 
other screaming fans!

"splnyc" 




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 22:23:27 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:23:27 -0000
Subject: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <9b.4846c06f.2de34412@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8tskv+33vs@eGroups.com>

I tried that candy for Easter! Very funny. They have Fizzing 
Wizzbees, Ice Mice, Jelly Slugs, Acid Pops and Drooble's Best 
Blowing Bubble Gum. None of it tasted that great, but that's not the 
point, right?! 

~Deborah

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> I was in my local grocery store last night and they have a stand 
of various 
> Harry Potterish candy. There were four different kinds 
(including "Bertie 
> Botts" jellybeans of course, and one of them was 'ice mice', I 
can't remember the 
> others unfortunately, but I glanced at them and they didn't look 
that 
> appetizing). I might go back and buy at least one of them, just 
because its so 
> interesting to see something from the books come to life like that.
> 
> -Rebecca
> PS. The same store had a stand of PoA paperback books for sale, 
just in time 
> for the movie.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From rmshowley at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 21:54:23 2004
From: rmshowley at yahoo.com (Roger Showley)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:54:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: PofA preview warning
In-Reply-To: <1085392563.912.53674.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040524215423.58914.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>

I saw preview Sunday in San Diego and one thing
is worth warning HPites to look for. At one point
early in the movie, the scar on Radcliffe's face
switches from the right to the left side and a
moment later, back where it belongs. I'm
surprised somebody in continuity didn't catch
that. On the other hand, perhaps they flopped the
image for some reason and forgot to correct the
scar's location.

One pleasant bonus to enjoy is the much better
use of background music, going way beyond the HP
themes used previously.




From sherriola at earthlink.net  Mon May 24 22:32:34 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:32:34 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <c8tskv+33vs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001001c441df$02f79930$0400a8c0@pensive>

I had Every Flavour Beans once. they did have some awfully weird flavors!!!!
Most of it was good, as good as something like Jelly Bellies, if you like
that sort of thing.

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Scully931 [mailto:scully931 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:23 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy


I tried that candy for Easter! Very funny. They have Fizzing 
Wizzbees, Ice Mice, Jelly Slugs, Acid Pops and Drooble's Best 
Blowing Bubble Gum. None of it tasted that great, but that's not the 
point, right?! 

~Deborah

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
> I was in my local grocery store last night and they have a stand 
of various 
> Harry Potterish candy. There were four different kinds 
(including "Bertie 
> Botts" jellybeans of course, and one of them was 'ice mice', I 
can't remember the 
> others unfortunately, but I glanced at them and they didn't look 
that 
> appetizing). I might go back and buy at least one of them, just 
because its so 
> interesting to see something from the books come to life like that.
> 
> -Rebecca
> PS. The same store had a stand of PoA paperback books for sale, 
just in time 
> for the movie.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Mon May 24 22:49:32 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 15:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <c8tskv+33vs@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040524224932.11627.qmail@web80304.mail.yahoo.com>

Actually we thought the Ice Mice were pretty good. 
And those Acid Pops -- SOUR! at the very beginning at
least.  My son loves Fizzing Whizbees.

Gretchen

--- Scully931 <scully931 at yahoo.com> wrote:

---------------------------------
I tried that candy for Easter! Very funny. They have
Fizzing 
Wizzbees, Ice Mice, Jelly Slugs, Acid Pops and
Drooble's Best 
Blowing Bubble Gum. None of it tasted that great, but
that's not the 
point, right?! 

~Deborah

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From SnapesRaven at web.de  Mon May 24 23:20:51 2004
From: SnapesRaven at web.de (SnapesRaven)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 01:20:51 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
References: <001001c441df$02f79930$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <002d01c441e5$c1988150$0202a8c0@henrike>

*clutches her beak in agony*

G'morning!

I also had some HP sweets once in a while.... Honeyduke's Best Chocolate bars. And I still have some Sherbet Lemons (I didn't open them because I don't want them to vanish...*g*). The bars are really delicious! The greenish caramel and the white candy cream are really tasty, together with those multi-colored ....things! 

...just sweets should NEVER! EVER! be available for ravens!! 
; >

SnapesRaven
*fluttering off to get some de-sticking potion from her Master*



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  From: Sherry Gomes 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy


  I had Every Flavour Beans once. they did have some awfully weird flavors!!!!
  Most of it was good, as good as something like Jelly Bellies, if you like
  that sort of thing.

  Sherry


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scully931 [mailto:scully931 at yahoo.com] 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:23 PM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy


  I tried that candy for Easter! Very funny. They have Fizzing 
  Wizzbees, Ice Mice, Jelly Slugs, Acid Pops and Drooble's Best 
  Blowing Bubble Gum. None of it tasted that great, but that's not the 
  point, right?! 

  ~Deborah

  --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, patientx3 at a... wrote:
  > I was in my local grocery store last night and they have a stand 
  of various 
  > Harry Potterish candy. There were four different kinds 
  (including "Bertie 
  > Botts" jellybeans of course, and one of them was 'ice mice', I 
  can't remember the 
  > others unfortunately, but I glanced at them and they didn't look 
  that 
  > appetizing). I might go back and buy at least one of them, just 
  because its so 
  > interesting to see something from the books come to life like that.
  > 
  > -Rebecca
  > PS. The same store had a stand of PoA paperback books for sale, 
  just in time 
  > for the movie.
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com  Mon May 24 23:08:37 2004
From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:08:37 -0000
Subject: Brendan Gleeson  is Mad Eye Moody??
Message-ID: <c8tv9l+afei@eGroups.com>

I just read that in another journal and I haven't been able to 
confirm it just yet, but if it's true...

HE'S PERFECT!!!!

I can't imagine another actor as Mad Eye. :-)




From Resqgal911 at msn.com  Mon May 24 23:39:34 2004
From: Resqgal911 at msn.com (Tammy Bianchi)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 19:39:34 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PoA Themed Candy
References: <9b.4846c06f.2de34412@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV95AqlGZjvXi0000f539@hotmail.com>


Rebecca wrote:
> I was in my local grocery store last night and they have a stand of 
> various Harry Potterish candy. There were four different kinds 
> (including "Bertie Botts" jellybeans of course, and one of them was 
> 'ice mice', I can't remember the others unfortunately, but I glanced 
> at them and they didn't look that appetizing). I might go back and 
> buy at least one of them, just because its so interesting to see 
> something from the books come to life like that.


I bought everything.

Ice Mice - I love the berry flavor, and I think they're cute.

Acid pops - Um, they are sour.  Ick.

Drooble's best blowing gum - decent, but doesn't turn your mouth as blue as it could've.

Jelly Slugs - Great.  I think they're cute too.

Fizzing Whizbees - Um, pop rocks.

Still worth the money anyway.

"Tammy"




From wild_imagination at excite.com  Tue May 25 00:30:49 2004
From: wild_imagination at excite.com (wild_imagination at excite.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:30:49 -0000
Subject: Would one of the moderators please add HP3 to 6-4 in the Calendar?
Message-ID: <c8u43p+qa26@eGroups.com>

Don't want anyone forget when the movie is starting (not 
including special showings)


... like it is possible to forget that Harry Potter and the Prisoner of 
Azkaban is soon going to be here. *smirk*


-Wild




From clshannon at aol.com  Tue May 25 01:11:06 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 21:11:06 EDT
Subject: MTV's TRL
Message-ID: <39.483f2002.2de3f72a@aol.com>

Just watched Dan and Emma on TRL Live - very cute ;-)
Anyway, one of the hosts said at the end that TRL is showing a 'never before 
seen trailer' this Friday. He made a point of saying that the trailer has 
never been seen - hmm, maybe he means just in   the US. Anyway, it's worth a look 
to see if it is indeed a new trailer.
Cindy


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From moon_stag at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 00:58:12 2004
From: moon_stag at yahoo.com (moon_stag)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 17:58:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040525005812.50178.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com>



Theresa <anmsmom333 at cox.net> wrote:
> I would be happy to give a spoiler-ish review and mark it as such 
> but if the majority of the group would rather I not I could just 
> send it via email to you. What is the consensus from the group?


Please, please, spoil me !!!
 

Thanks
Moon





From clshannon at aol.com  Tue May 25 02:11:13 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 22:11:13 EDT
Subject: Red carpet coverage
Message-ID: <1f0.2174155e.2de40541@aol.com>

Well, as we figured, the various entertainment shows are doing short bits on 
the premiere   yesterday.
Just saw E! News Live's report and the correspondent even talked to Alan 
Rickman ;-)
Now Extra is going to do one after this commercial break.
I assume Access Hollywood will do theirs as well, along with Entertainment 
Tonight - whew.
Cindy


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue May 25 05:07:13 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 01:07:13 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos
In-Reply-To: <579288402.20040524091235@vcem.com>
Message-ID: <BCD84CC1.AE3%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

I am refusing to read any of the posted reviews, though I am holding on to
them for reading after the 4th. I saw the "Today Show" with Dan Radcliffe;
there was some new footage of the film. I almost don't want to see too much
in advance. I want to be able to wallow in the gloriousness of it all at the
theatre!
Did anyone else see the Today Show? Dan was too, too adorable in the
dressing room pigging out on cookies and donuts! It must've been hard for
him to focus on giving an interview outside with Katy Couric, surrounded by
screaming fans! I'm very impressed with how well spoken he is for a 14 year
old. You could tell he was nervous, but he did a great job.  :-)

I wonder how much of a run for it's money HP3 will give Shrek2? Although
Shrek is probably a little more mass appeal than HP.

bewitchedbyHP




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 03:00:53 2004
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 03:00:53 -0000
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8uct5+f075@eGroups.com>


Theresa:
> I would be happy to give a spoiler-ish review and mark it as such 
> but if the majority of the group would rather I not I could just 
> send it via email to you. What is the consensus from the group?
 

Yes, spoilers, please. :o)

thanks.

Alla





From bewitchedbyhp at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 05:41:06 2004
From: bewitchedbyhp at yahoo.com (bewitchedbyhp)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 05:41:06 -0000
Subject: Neville
Message-ID: <c8um9i+1rmu@eGroups.com>

Anyone else blown away by how much Neville has changed?! At 
first I thought it was a different actor. He's changed more than 
anyone IMO.

"bewitchedbyhp" 




From idcre at imap2.asu.edu  Tue May 25 06:13:56 2004
From: idcre at imap2.asu.edu (backstagemystic)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:13:56 -0000
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8t6m0+flum@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8uo74+tu68@eGroups.com>

Theresa wrote:
<<I would be happy to give a spoiler-ish review and mark it as such 
but if the majority of the group would rather I not I could just send 
it via email to you. What is the consensus from the group?<<

I'd love to hear about Snape as well.  I have no problems with 
spoilers as long as the post is marked with that warning.

BM









From bookworm at darwin.inka.de  Tue May 25 06:16:30 2004
From: bookworm at darwin.inka.de (agassizde)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:16:30 -0000
Subject: Guess what I saw today?!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c8rtrj+5cpl@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c8uobu+n1do@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" <anmsmom333 at c...> wrote:
 
> I know there has been loads of discussion about 
> Gary not being good looking enough for Sirius but he is Sirius and 
> you could still see a handsome man underneath his scruffy dirty 
> appearance. (Except his teeth - man needs a toothbrush big time 
> before I would kiss him)

<g> But that *exactly* fits his description in the book. ;-) There are
at least two moments where he is baring his "yellow teeth". Glad to
know he can pull the part off (which I hadn't any doubts about). I
haven't seen any of the previews, living in the wrong country, but the
stills from the movie look *very* promising.
 
Just had to add my 2 cents. ;)

Monika





From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 25 06:48:24 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:48:24 -0000
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <001701c44191$ac177ba0$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <c8uq7o+73dk@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at e...> wrote:
> She also played the grown up Wendy in the movie Hook with Robin
Williams as
> Peter Pan grown up.  She was a nice character in that one.
> 
> sherry
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valerie Flowe [mailto:valerie.flowe at v...] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:08 PM
> To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
> 
> 
> I just watched "The Secret Garden" with my children on video. Maggie
Smith
> (though I'll always know her as Professor McGonegal), played the
mean old
> Mrs. Medlock. This is the only other role I've seen her play (I'm
not up on
> my British films); it was weird to see her play someone mean! Even
though
> they changed the ending so that she turned nice.
> 
> bewitchedbyHP 
> 
> 
> imamommy:

May I mention Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood, both Sister Act
movies, Tea with Mussonlini, and First Wive's Club?  All excellent
films with Dame Smith.

imamommy  
> Yahoo! Groups Links




From HMaffioli at cox.net  Tue May 25 07:05:35 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:05:35 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PofA preview warning
References: <20040524215423.58914.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004801c44226$ad2cc780$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

Hey I was at that preview in SD as well.  When we have a ruling on whether or not any one wants spoilerish previews I wrote something for hpana maybe I could post here.  It is a "what's in and what's out" review of the film.

Heather
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Showley 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:54 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PofA preview warning


  I saw preview Sunday in San Diego and one thing
  is worth warning HPites to look for. At one point
  early in the movie, the scar on Radcliffe's face
  switches from the right to the left side and a
  moment later, back where it belongs. I'm
  surprised somebody in continuity didn't catch
  that. On the other hand, perhaps they flopped the
  image for some reason and forgot to correct the
  scar's location.

  One pleasant bonus to enjoy is the much better
  use of background music, going way beyond the HP
  themes used previously.



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From Ali at zymurgy.org  Tue May 25 08:11:11 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:11:11 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: POA SPOILERS
Message-ID: <c8uv2v+1svn@eGroups.com>


Spoilers relating to the POA movie are allowed on this list. We are
aware that people will see the film at different times, and would
therefore ask that all posts containing spoilers are marked with the
header POA MOVIE followed by the subject title (without spoilers).

We ask that the POA MOVIE spoiler header be used until June 20th, by 
which time most people will have seen the film.

Thank you and enjoy the film!

Merry Elf
For the Admin Team





From McGregorMax at ec.rr.com  Tue May 25 06:27:19 2004
From: McGregorMax at ec.rr.com (mcmaxslb)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 06:27:19 -0000
Subject: MTV's TRL
In-Reply-To: <39.483f2002.2de3f72a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8up07+c3ko@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote:
> Just watched Dan and Emma on TRL Live - very cute ;-)





I have to say that both Dan and Emma came over on this show as 
enthusiastic about the movie, genuinely loving what they do and truly 
liking each other. They're cute kids and give them a couple of years 
they are going to be beautiful!






From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue May 25 12:55:02 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:55:02 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] spoilers and promos
Message-ID: <75.2a82662b.2de49c26@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/25/2004 2:01:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
Did anyone else see the Today Show? Dan was too, too adorable in the
dressing room pigging out on cookies and donuts! It must've been hard for
him to focus on giving an interview outside with Katy Couric, surrounded by
screaming fans! I'm very impressed with how well spoken he is for a 14 year
old. You could tell he was nervous, but he did a great job.  :-)

I wonder how much of a run for it's money HP3 will give Shrek2? Although
Shrek is probably a little more mass appeal than HP.

bewitchedbyHP

I LOVED the green room scene on Today (the cookie and donut scene) -- too 
cute!  I thought Dan did very well, and he's good at meeting the public, shaking 
hands and writing on posters and all that.  I've been looking at the pics and 
video from the red carpet stuff (thank heaven for the Internet!!!) and Dan 
actually looked a bit frightened by the crowd, and in his interviews seemed a lot 
more nervous than usual.  Of course, he IS "Harry Potter" and most of those 
people were there to see him, much more than the other actors, I suppose, and 
fans have been known to mob their favorite stars and rip at their hair and 
clothes -- I sure hope they have good security for him for these things.  It was 
interesting to me that Tom Felton's comments (which I only saw in print, not on 
video) were cool, calm and collected, where Dan's seemed a bit unnerved (Tom 
was asked about the fangirl reaction being as big for him as for Dan or even 
bigger, and he said something about, "well, they like a bad boy" or something 
like that).  Tom's 16 now, right, and Dan won't be 15 until July.  I wonder how 
much of the difference is the difference in their age, or experience (Tom's 
been in more movies, hasn't he?) or personality.  Just curious.  The one time 
Dan looked like a "normal teenager" was on TRL when he ENTHUSED about Gary 
Oldman (he REALLY enthused -- didn't say much, but you could see in his face and 
body language he was bursting with excitement and had something "different" to 
say than "brilliant" or "amazing" -- I think his "different" word was 
"fantastic," LOL!), and then again about British bands he likes.  Emma was very good 
on TRL, and I thought it was sweet how Dan kept pitching the conversation to 
her.  But what was it he said when they were asked about the cast becoming a 
family?  He said he thought of Emma as a sister and was a bit overprotective of 
her and then he said something else fast while waving his mike around (it's 
obvious he and Emma don't often use hand mikes!)  Anyone catch that?  What fun to 
see all this stuff.  Oh, and they showed when Dan was on TRL when he was 12 
-- for CoS -- and they brought that woman who was wearing only a towel and 
carrying a sign that said "nothing comes between me and Harry Potter" -- I thought 
he'd seen her through the window, but they brought her into the studio and 
face to face with Dan!  She was cool and calm, he was blushing!  When they 
showed that clip, Dan said he looked like a frog back then.  Heehee.  



Lynda 
* * *
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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue May 25 13:07:05 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:07:05 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos
In-Reply-To: <BCD84CC1.AE3%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <002301c44259$2e3d2c20$0400a8c0@pensive>

I went with my friend and her kids to see Shrek 2 on the day it opened.
there were only about 20 people in the theater.  I think that HP will have a
broader appeal.  It is so incredibly popular with adults as well as kids.  I
expect many more than 20 people in the theater on the 4th!

sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Flowe [mailto:valerie.flowe at verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:07 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos


I am refusing to read any of the posted reviews, though I am holding on to
them for reading after the 4th. I saw the "Today Show" with Dan Radcliffe;
there was some new footage of the film. I almost don't want to see too much
in advance. I want to be able to wallow in the gloriousness of it all at the
theatre!
Did anyone else see the Today Show? Dan was too, too adorable in the
dressing room pigging out on cookies and donuts! It must've been hard for
him to focus on giving an interview outside with Katy Couric, surrounded by
screaming fans! I'm very impressed with how well spoken he is for a 14 year
old. You could tell he was nervous, but he did a great job.  :-)

I wonder how much of a run for it's money HP3 will give Shrek2? Although
Shrek is probably a little more mass appeal than HP.

bewitchedbyHP




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From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue May 25 14:09:31 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:09:31 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] spoilers and promos
Message-ID: <c0.d96944c.2de4ad9b@aol.com>

Lynda wrote:
>>Dan actually looked a bit frightened by the crowd, and in his interviews 
seemed a lot more nervous than usual<<

I noticed that too. I think it was just the pressure of being in public, 
surrounded by screaming fans, as opposed to sitting in a studio where the fans are 
just in the audience, not four feet away. He seems like he's a little 
uncomfortable (at least from what I've noticed in this recent interviews) with being 
adored by so many people. IMO, I would be a little frightened with having 
people scream my name and hold up signs with my picture on it, and then have to 
sit there and do an interview with them *continuing* to do that, but that's just 
me.


-Rebecca


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From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 14:14:08 2004
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:14:08 -0000
Subject: PoA Review
In-Reply-To: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEDJCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <c8vkbg+90jg@eGroups.com>

"Kimberly Roth" <twinslove at m...> wrote:
> Cloudeight Stationery, Free email stationery, Quicknotes 46, "simply
> elegant" selection name="watermark"
> 
> Hey everyone.  Since the list was so quiet, I thought I'd post a 
little
> review that was on The Leaky Cauldron. It doesn't give
> anything away, but it makes me want to see it NOW!  lol... Enjoy...
> 
> PoA Review!
> 
> Dennis, a Time Warner employee who was treated to a PoA screening, 
just sent
> us a spoiler-free review of PoA that sings the film's praises to 
the level
> we all hoped it would. The movie has so much atmosphere, "it almost 
seems as
> if Tim Burton might have directed it," he says. Read below if you 
want to
> know more!
 <snipped>

One of the reasons I have been dying to see this film is because it 
looks as if Tim Burton directed it!!!!!  Oh, I hope they woo him to 
do OOP!!!!  I can just see Number 12 now!

Marci




From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 14:29:11 2004
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:29:11 -0000
Subject: TV Spots
In-Reply-To: <8a.b233c54.2dda35d8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c8vl7n+fu1u@eGroups.com>

 patientx3 at a... wrote:
> I saw a new one on after Malcolm in the Middle last night. Most of 
it was old 
> footage, but it did have a clip of Ron being dragged on the ground 
and 
> screaming for Harry, and there was a half-second of a werewolf/dog 
fight at the very 
> end. It was a more serious ad too, which is a nice change (all the 
other ones 
> I've seen are trying to play up the humor in the film). Keep your 
eyes out 
> for that one.
> 
> 
> -Rebecca> 

I like the ones I'm seeing now!  The one with the dog/wolf fight 
is... wow!  It shows Harry getting knocked on his rear by the willow 
(that actuall looks like a willow this time!), Ron getting dragged, 
Hermione screaming her head off...

And the one that ends with Hermione smacking Harry on the hand when 
he reaches for the Time Turner...  LOL

Marci




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May 25 15:06:17 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:06:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Msggie Smith
In-Reply-To: <c8uq7o+73dk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040525150617.85414.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>

Actually, we've recently seen The Prime of Miss Jean
Brodie from the '60s, which is probably Maggie Smith's
most famous role.  It's very strange to see her so
young (probably in her 30s at the time).  I told my
almost 3-year-old that she was Professor McGonegall,
and he didn't believe me!

Gretchen

May I mention Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood,
both Sister Act
movies, Tea with Mussonlini, and First Wive's Club? 
All excellent
films with Dame Smith.

imamommy  


=====
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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Tue May 25 15:00:11 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:00:11 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos
References: <BCD84CC1.AE3%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <002001c4426a$32444cc0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Valerie Flowe 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos


  I am refusing to read any of the posted reviews, though I am holding on to
  them for reading after the 4th. I saw the "Today Show" with Dan Radcliffe;
  there was some new footage of the film. I almost don't want to see too much
  in advance. I want to be able to wallow in the gloriousness of it all at the
  theatre!>>
  I am like you, Valerie.  I finally just thought I have had enough of the trailers
  and spoilers of the movie, and I am just ready for the movie to hit theaters so
  I can see it in all it's glory. :-)  

  Did anyone else see the Today Show? Dan was too, too adorable in the
  dressing room pigging out on cookies and donuts! It must've been hard for
  him to focus on giving an interview outside with Katy Couric, surrounded by
  screaming fans! I'm very impressed with how well spoken he is for a 14 year
  old. You could tell he was nervous, but he did a great job.  :-)>>

  I didn't see the green room part with him pigging out, but I did see the actual interview.  He is adorable, that
  is for sure!!!  I am always impressed by his interviews too.  He is very well spoken and certainly taken on
  that leadership role for the cast and movie.  I have read quite a few interviews that the interviewer has said
  the same thing regarding Dan.

  I wonder how much of a run for it's money HP3 will give Shrek2? Although
  Shrek is probably a little more mass appeal than HP.>>

  I don't know... it is hard to tell right now.  I did read an article/review last night where the journalist who has
  seen both Shrek 2 and HP, said HP was by far the better movie and he highly recommended it.  I thought
  Shrek 2 was cute, a little cheeky though, and Puss N Boots stole the movie (he was great), but I thought
  the first Shrek was best.  My 5-year old son actually got restless during Shrek 2, and he LOVES the first one!
  He has it memorized!!!  I am real excited about HP and Spider-Man 2 last this summer. 


  Kimberly

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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May 25 15:12:08 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos
In-Reply-To: <002301c44259$2e3d2c20$0400a8c0@pensive>
Message-ID: <20040525151208.84277.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com>

Wow, that's strange!  I had a friend try to take her
kids to Shrek 2 over the weekend to find it sold out. 
I think HP3 and Shrek 2 will probably be neck-and-neck
in terms of box office.  I do think the appeal of
Shrek is just a bit broader, but HP3 will probably
have more people going back to see it three and four
and five times.

Gretchen

--- Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:

---------------------------------
I went with my friend and her kids to see Shrek 2 on
the day it opened.
there were only about 20 people in the theater.  

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From sherriola at earthlink.net  Tue May 25 15:17:18 2004
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:17:18 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos
In-Reply-To: <20040525151208.84277.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c4426b$5fe789c0$0400a8c0@pensive>

True.  I think that Shrek 2 isn't as fun as the first, and therefore won't
have as much return viewers, but the loyal HP following will return again
and again to see POA.  

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Gretchen Crumpacker [mailto:gcrumpac at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:12 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Spoilers and promos


Wow, that's strange!  I had a friend try to take her
kids to Shrek 2 over the weekend to find it sold out. 
I think HP3 and Shrek 2 will probably be neck-and-neck
in terms of box office.  I do think the appeal of
Shrek is just a bit broader, but HP3 will probably
have more people going back to see it three and four
and five times.

Gretchen

--- Sherry Gomes <sherriola at earthlink.net> wrote:

---------------------------------
I went with my friend and her kids to see Shrek 2 on
the day it opened.
there were only about 20 people in the theater.  

=====
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From tmarends at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 15:34:20 2004
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:34:20 -0000
Subject: PofA preview warning
In-Reply-To: <004801c44226$ad2cc780$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>
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Man, why couldn't I get into that SD preview!!  

Anyways, I agree with most here.  put "SPOILER" in the subject and 
let's hear the reviews.  Most, if not all, already know the basic 
storyline.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Heather Maffioli" 
<HMaffioli at c...> wrote:
> Hey I was at that preview in SD as well.  When we have a ruling on 
whether or not any one wants spoilerish previews I wrote something 
for hpana maybe I could post here.  It is a "what's in and what's 
out" review of the film.
> 
> Heather
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Roger Showley 
>   To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:54 PM
>   Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PofA preview warning
> 
> 
>   I saw preview Sunday in San Diego and one thing
>   is worth warning HPites to look for. At one point
>   early in the movie, the scar on Radcliffe's face
>   switches from the right to the left side and a
>   moment later, back where it belongs. I'm
>   surprised somebody in continuity didn't catch
>   that. On the other hand, perhaps they flopped the
>   image for some reason and forgot to correct the
>   scar's location.
> 
>   One pleasant bonus to enjoy is the much better
>   use of background music, going way beyond the HP
>   themes used previously.
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From hmtomcat at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 25 13:22:12 2004
From: hmtomcat at sbcglobal.net (hmtomcat)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:22:12 -0000
Subject: Moody and Maxime cast for GoF
Message-ID: <c8vha4+ge13@eGroups.com>

Just saw a report at Zap2it.com that Mad-Eye Moody and Madame Maxime 
have been cast for GoF.

Brendan Gleeson (Menelaus in Troy) is going to play Mad-Eye and 
Frances de la Tour (said in the article to be a British sitcom star) 
will play Madame Maxime.

The full article can be found at 
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---21610,00.html


Tracy





From easytoread at hotmail.com  Tue May 25 14:59:50 2004
From: easytoread at hotmail.com (cinderz81)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:59:50 -0000
Subject: PBS Special
Message-ID: <c8vn16+5bmh@eGroups.com>

I don't know if all PBS affiliates will carry this, but KERA has this 
scheduled 6/4:

2:00pm Discovering The Real World of Harry Potter CC (Repeats: 6/15 
2pm) 
Discovering the Real World of Harry Potter is a one-hour documentary 
special telling the story of the real-life sources for the best- 
selling Harry Potter books. The program will visit some locations of 
the upcoming feature film ... (snip)

http://www.kera.org/tv/schedule.lasso?date=06/4/2004





From redina at silverbloom.net  Tue May 25 18:04:48 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] PBS Special
In-Reply-To: <c8vn16+5bmh@eGroups.com>
References: <c8vn16+5bmh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1387.4.47.27.241.1085508288.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

cinderz81 said:
> I don't know if all PBS affiliates will carry this, but KERA has this
> scheduled 6/4:
>
> 2:00pm Discovering The Real World of Harry Potter CC (Repeats: 6/15
> 2pm)

Awkward timing if it is airing in multiple areas.  General premiere day at
2pm?  VCR setting.

Dina

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From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Tue May 25 20:42:17 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:42:17 -0000
Subject: PBS Special
In-Reply-To: <c8vn16+5bmh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c90b39+57dp@eGroups.com>

Doesn't seem to be on the PBS channel in Phoenix. I even did a Harry 
Potter search. Sounds interesting too.

Oh well.

Theresa

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "cinderz81" <easytoread at h...> 
wrote:
> I don't know if all PBS affiliates will carry this, but KERA has 
this 
> scheduled 6/4:
> 
> 2:00pm Discovering The Real World of Harry Potter CC (Repeats: 6/15 
> 2pm) 
> Discovering the Real World of Harry Potter is a one-hour 
documentary 
> special telling the story of the real-life sources for the best- 
> selling Harry Potter books. The program will visit some locations 
of 
> the upcoming feature film ... (snip)
> 
> http://www.kera.org/tv/schedule.lasso?date=06/4/2004




From psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 20:20:18 2004
From: psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com (psychobirdgirl)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:20:18 -0000
Subject: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <9b.4846c06f.2de34412@aol.com>
Message-ID: <c909q2+c7hu@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know what countries these candies will be available in, 
because so far stateside we have only been given a very limited 
amount of the candies, maybe only half of what the UK gets, and 
probably more than most other countries get.

psychobirdgirl





From patientx3 at aol.com  Tue May 25 21:22:26 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:22:26 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
Message-ID: <f5.3bf9fa08.2de51312@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/25/2004 1:51:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com writes:

>>Does anyone know what countries these candies will be available in, 
because so far stateside we have only been given a very limited 
amount of the candies, maybe only half of what the UK gets, and 
probably more than most other countries get.<<

I know the US has the "Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans" (although  I don't 
know why anyone would want to buy something with a 'vomit' flavor), and we have 
the Ice Mice (which is some sort berry flavored candy), Fizzing Whizbees (pop 
rocks), and Jelly Slugs (which are just basic gummi-candy). I'm sort of 
disappointed we don't have the Honeydukes chocolate and the droubles [sic?] gum 
though, it sounds good.


-Rebecca


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From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Tue May 25 21:47:52 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:47:52 -0000
Subject: Spoilers - my POA review
Message-ID: <c90eu8+fqj0@eGroups.com>

Okay some of you asked for a spoiler type review so if you are not 
one of the fans who wants to know spoilers please STOP reading now. 
This is rather long and I tried not to cover everything so I could 
leave you with something to be surprised by.

Here let me do this properly...
S
P
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S
P
A
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E
There. Sure you want to know? Well...

Ok - first of all the film may seem choppy to some - I know the 
little girl next to me told her mom she thought it jumped too much. 
It did seem fast paced and the 2 hrs 20 minutes were over in no time. 
The Whomping Willow is down the hill now but at least it really looks 
like a willow tree now. I was so busy watching I did not remember it 
was not down a hill in COS. There are several changes like that such 
as now there is that covered bridge and I don't remember it but it 
was a nice setting.

Secondly, the acting abilities are much improved for the trio - in my 
opinion, they could definitely continue after Harry Potter is  
complete. I loved Gary Oldman, and David Thewlis as Sirius and Remus. 
Fine acting by two wonderful actors. And both have such pretty eyes 
(sorry I have a thing for pretty eyes).

The arrival of Aunt Marge was well
 she is a wicked evil woman -
well done Pam Ferris. I hated her from the moment she steps in the 
door. Anyway, then they sit down to eat and Harry of course is not 
sitting but playing waiter/bus boy. Neither Dudley nor Petunia speak 
much, and of course Aunt Marge is blabbing away about what a nuisance 
Harry is. There is a line that shocked me, they put this line in the 
film. Marge states the breeding problem (referring to Harry) comes 
from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
something wrong with the pup" and that is when Harry shouts "shut up" 
and she begins to inflate like a helium balloon. That was well done 
and quite amusing. 

The knight bus is cool and Stan is a dork with pimples but exactly 
how I pictured him. He only says Sirius is a murderer but no details. 
The shrunken head is the coolest thing - it is quite a laugh. Such 
puns. They go to the Leaky Cauldron straight away so we don't see 
anyone else get off and I never saw Harry pay but he did get a ticket 
from Stan. Oh and he never tells them his name nor says he is 
Neville. 

When Harry is at the Leaky Cauldron Fudge has already purchased his 
books for him (maybe it is shortened for time but you never see Harry 
get his presents from everyone including the book from Hagrid). The 
scene in his room with the Monster book is really funny. 

The cat and rat issue seems to be downplayed a bit as I don't think 
it seems Ron and Hermione are ever not really speaking to one 
another. Oh and I think Crookshanks is cute. 

On the train, when the dementor comes in, it appears to be sucking 
out more than just happiness from Harry and that is how it seems 
later with Harry and Sirius by the lake. Like just its presence sucks 
out your soul. That might confuse those who have not read the books. 
They ARE really scary if you ask me. Oh and they fly too. Don't 
remember that but it makes them creepier.

The only classes I remember seeing are Divination, DADA and Care of 
Magical creatures. Trelawny is funny and eccentric. I think you see 
her class twice in the film. 

The boggart scene is well done. Harry does get a turn though and 
starts to do the spell but then Lupin leaps in front and you see a 
full moon coming out of the clouds and he turns it into a balloon 
deflating around the room which has been in a few trailers. So there 
is your first clue about him and the werewolf curse. The next DADA 
class is the one with Snape and yes that is a slide projector in the 
trailers. He teaches about werewolves so there is your next clue.

Hagrid's class is pretty much like the book - he shows Buckbeak, who 
is wonderful, I loved him, and Harry makes friends with him, rides 
him a bit and thoroughly enjoys it. It is cute how Hagrid is trying 
so hard to be a good teacher.

Malfoy is a pure git in this movie. He is the typical rich kid who is 
a bully. The one the audience loves to see get what is coming to him -
 first the beastie (Buckbeak) then the girlie. Our theatre audience 
cheered when Hermione punches him. Tom did a great job considering he 
always seems so sweet in interviews. 

The timeturner was handled well. Hermione keeps appearing in the 
classes just as Ron and Harry look away then back there she is and 
Ron keeps saying, "When did she get here?". It was cute.

The Fat Lady does get slashed but you never meet Sir Cadogen nor does 
Neville lose the passwords nor Sirius get in and slash Ron's 
bedcurtains. Kind of miss seeing those scenes.  

There are a few scenes with Harry walking with Lupin and talking to 
him about the dementors and his parents. Lupin seems to be more of a 
confidant for Harry than I remember but it is nice for him to talk 
about his parents with someone. There is only one Patronous lesson 
and Harry succeeds after a few tries. Might seem too quick for some 
but I did not mind it. 

The second Hogsmeade visit Harry tries to sneak out under his cloak 
but Fred and George figure it out and catch him. They then give him 
the map and explain it. I like how they still talk over one another. 
Then of course he sneaks into the village and catches up to Hermione 
and Ron at the shack being harassed by Draco, Crabbe and another 
Slytherin. Harry scares the Sylterins away and that was hilarious but 
Harry's head is never revealed, however, I think it worked better 
this way. The cute scene in the photos with Harry and Hermione is her 
trying to comfort him after he over hears McGonnagal speaking about 
Sirius, Peter and Harry's parents. Boy can young Daniel show emotions 
now. He is crying but then gets angry and I think he was excellent in 
this scene. He is definitely becoming a fine actor. (and he is a 
cutie too - I see why the young girls drool.)

The part with Snape and the map is a bit different from the book 
whereas, late one night Harry is watching the map (the map is done 
well with names and stuff), and Harry sees Peter Petigrew's name on 
the map so he sneaks off to I suppose catch him which is when Snape 
finds him with the map. It insults him once and Harry reads it to him 
so no it doesn't talk out loud - that made me happy - I was so afraid 
of that after the way they did the hat. I have a friend who had not 
read the books who said "Does everyone hear what the hat says to the 
person?".

The hug scene everyone is seeing online is when they think Buckbeak 
is executed is cute. Hermione hugs Ron and Harry is hugging her in 
sort of a three-way hug. I thought it was sweet and not really 
romantic just three really close friends. 

The Willow was awesome looks like a willow and is wicked fast. It 
really whacks H/HR pretty hard and even swings them in the air. The 
shack scene is well done - Sirius is really maniacal - quite insane 
at first. He doesn't seem sad like in the book just crazy to kill 
Peter (well you figure that out later). When Remus comes in and he 
hugs Sirius - you can tell they are good friends. Of course some 
quick explanation begins but I don't recall the explanation of the 
four marauders becoming illegal animagi to be with Remus. Nor who 
Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs ever being explained so that is 
the slight disappointment I mentioned before. I think those who have 
not read the book do not get the full understanding of Harry's dad 
and his friends' relationship or that they are illegal animagi. Also 
Harry is the only one who attacked Snape but it was cool to see him 
fly and crash the bed. 

The werewolf transformation was not at all how I dreamt it. He just 
looked gross to me, so I suppose it was my only other slight 
disappointment. I did love that Sirius was telling Remus to remember 
who he was and asking about his potion (hmm did they have that before 
Sirius was imprisoned?) while protecting the kids. Then Sirius as a 
CGI dog fights Remus the CGI werewolf and then Snape comes out of the 
tree and protects the kids as we have seen in the trailers. Slight 
error here is the Willow never moves and they are standing right 
under there. This is the last you see of Snape so he does not pitch 
his fit later on. Oh well I would have loved that.

The time turner scene is great. It explains how certain things happen 
during the first time through those scenes like where the howling 
comes from that distracts Remus. One part that is a little funny is 
Hermione2 critiquing Hermione1's hair. The actual Patronous is good 
but you only see the stag as standing there on the shore from 
Harry1's point of view. Looking from Harry2's point of view it just 
looks like a bright light that gets the dementors.

The most heartwarming scene is between Harry and Sirius on the tower 
when they are saying goodbye. I think Sirius says one of Dumbledore's 
lines from the book about those we love never truly leave us as they 
reside in our hearts or something like that. Personally I think it 
works better coming from Sirius.

Two last things, the Quidditch scene is awesome, super fast and you 
barely know it is Harry if it weren't for the new uniforms - goggles 
and their names and numbers on the back of their robes. Looks good 
like a real sport team. The icy rain actually cuts Harry's face and 
the Dementors are flying around everywhere. Harry falls what seems 
like a mile but they say 100 ft in the film. The Firebolt does not 
arrive until towards the end of the film and it shows up with one of 
Buckbeak's feathers so you know who sent it but there is no 
permission slip for the next year for Hogsmeade. Guess they will need 
to fix that for GOF if they even go to Hogsmeade in GOF film version. 
The credits are cool too the way they are presented - stay and watch 
them - it is the map sort of.

All in all I enjoyed the movie and will see it again and again. POA 
is still my favorite book and I think the filmmakers did it 
brilliantly. Hope I didn't spoil too much for all of you. I started 
writing not intending to be so long but couldn't stop.

Theresa




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May 25 21:51:38 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:51:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <f5.3bf9fa08.2de51312@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20040525215138.9566.qmail@web80307.mail.yahoo.com>

We've got the gum although I haven't tried it. 
Haven't seen the Honeydukes chocolate.  I think
selection varies a lot.  The best we've seen so far
was at Borders bookstore.

Gretchen

--- patientx3 at aol.com wrote:

I know the US has the "Bertie Botts Every Flavor
Beans" (although  I don't 
know why anyone would want to buy something with a
'vomit' flavor), and we have 
the Ice Mice (which is some sort berry flavored
candy), Fizzing Whizbees (pop 
rocks), and Jelly Slugs (which are just basic
gummi-candy). I'm sort of 
disappointed we don't have the Honeydukes chocolate
and the droubles [sic?] gum 
though, it sounds good.

=====
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From scully931 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 22:02:17 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:02:17 -0000
Subject: PoA Themed Candy
In-Reply-To: <c909q2+c7hu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c90fp9+kej1@eGroups.com>

I have seen everything here in the states except the Honeydukes 
Chocolate. That's not to say I have seen everything in the stores. I 
bought most of mine from hpwizardstore.com. (I swear they should 
give me a permanant discount for the amount of people I have sent to 
their store ;-) They have everything listed except the chocolate. I 
assume you've been able to find the Bertie Bott's. They seem to be 
the most popluar, for some strange reason. hehe.  I just used three 
bags myself. I teach voice lessons and have a contest every spring 
for this one difficult exercise. This year I decided to spice things 
up. If the student messed it up, they had to eat a bean. They 
pretended not to want to, but secretly loved it! (Although, a couple 
of them snuck in and stole all the vomit ones so they wouldn't have 
to eat them. Can't say I blame them on that.) 

Anyway, long story. So... um... yes. hpwizardstore.com for the 
candy. 

~Deborah


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "psychobirdgirl" 
<psychobirdgirl at y...> wrote:
> Does anyone know what countries these candies will be available 
in, 
> because so far stateside we have only been given a very limited 
> amount of the candies, maybe only half of what the UK gets, and 
> probably more than most other countries get.
> 
> psychobirdgirl




From scully931 at yahoo.com  Tue May 25 22:08:02 2004
From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:08:02 -0000
Subject: POA Soundtrack
Message-ID: <c90g42+d3rn@eGroups.com>

Love the new soundtrack! Very different from the first two. First of 
all, there are more um... how to put this... 'wacky' songs. Aunt 
Marge's Waltz - very funny. Sounds a bit like a circus theme. 
(Although, I do hate circuses, I like the song) Overall, much less 
of the wonderful themes we're used to, although they do crop up. As 
for disappointments... personally, the only thing I found was that 
the "Double Trouble" song was not nearly as big as in the trailer. 
Sounds mostly like just a couple kids singing instead of the full 
choir and is slower. Not nearly as ominous. But, besides that, I'm 
really enjoying it. Make sure to read Alfonso's statement on the 
inside cover. Medieval indeed! What does everyone else think so far?

~Deborah




From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Tue May 25 23:16:33 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (linda_gaunt)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:16:33 -0000
Subject: Dan's insight
Message-ID: <c90k4h+gmsi@eGroups.com>

Just signed up to this group, so apologies if I'm repeating any 
previous posts. Here's my question, what are your thoughts on the  
interpretation of the maze in GOF movie? According to the 
danradcliffe.co.uk interview, recently, Dan says that the maze is 
going to be more of a psychological quest, he says, and I quote: in 
the book you've got a Sphinx in the maze, and there are other things 
thatHarry's fighting off, in the film it's going to be a much more a 
psychological thing. Basically the only things that are in the 
maze are, the only things living that are in the maze are Harry, 
Fleur, Viktor, Cedric and also the maze itself is almost alive and 
so you've got, it's almost as if, the walls are kind of breathing. 

And if Harry goes down one corridor of the maze, one passage of the 
maze, and turns around, the bit where he came in there it's closed 
up again, so he has to keep thinking of new ways to go. It's a 
much more psychological thing than a physical thing. I think there's 
a line in the script that Dumbledore says, it's something like, be 
careful not to lose yourself in the maze, as you can possibly go 
insane, as I think many people have in the past. End of quote. 
Interesting interpretation, any thoughts folks? Oh, and I know 
drooling's supposed to be kept to the Quidditch pitch, but he did 
look gorgeous at NY premiere, didn't he girls?


"linda_gaunt"




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Tue May 25 23:36:39 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan's insight
In-Reply-To: <c90k4h+gmsi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040525233639.27785.qmail@web80307.mail.yahoo.com>

No thoughts on the maze just this moment, I'd have to
think on that one, but give me Rupert over Dan -- the
guy's just getting gorgeous.  God help me, I am old
enough to be his mother, but he is growing into quite
a hottie.

Gretchen

--- linda_gaunt <linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Oh, and I know 
drooling's supposed to be kept to the Quidditch pitch,
but he did 
look gorgeous at NY premiere, didn't he girls?

=====
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From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Tue May 25 23:26:15 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (linda_gaunt)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:26:15 -0000
Subject: Maggie Smith films
Message-ID: <c90kmn+l34t@eGroups.com>

Just scanning through some of the postings and thought I'd mention 
another of Maggie Smith's former roles. Apologies if I'm repeating 
something! Maggie has actually worked with Dan before on the BBC 
production of David Copperfield, she played his aunt, Betsy 
Trotwood. She was also in a little-known film called The Private 
Life of Judith Hearne, in about 1988, where the part of Young Priest 
was played by a certain actor called Alan Radcliffe! 

"linda_gaunt" 




From nostrebor at runbox.com  Wed May 26 02:50:12 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:50:12 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy
References: <c909q2+c7hu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <059401c442cc$2be7ce30$ca9fa504@user7i1hr4si1m>

Alivan's has candy available:
http://www.alivans.com/custom/edit.asp?p=91113. I found today a Meijer's the
chocolate frogs and at 7-11 the Ice Mice & Droobles. I'm not sure where all
Alivan's ships to.
Jodi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "psychobirdgirl" <psychobirdgirl at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:20 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA Themed Candy


> Does anyone know what countries these candies will be available in,
> because so far stateside we have only been given a very limited
> amount of the candies, maybe only half of what the UK gets, and
> probably more than most other countries get.
>
> psychobirdgirl




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Wed May 26 03:38:31 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:38:31 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan's insight
In-Reply-To: <c90k4h+gmsi@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEAEENCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>


  -----Original Message-----

  Interesting interpretation, any thoughts folks?  >>

  You know, I am still on PoA right now that I haven't even thought about
GoF except that it is
  my favorite book so I can't wait!  LOL!  But it is curious as to how they
are suggesting how
  the maze scene will be done.  So none of the creatures will be in the
maze?  Like the spider
  will not be there or it will be in Harry's head?  I guess I am confused.
LOL!

  Oh, and I know
  drooling's supposed to be kept to the Quidditch pitch, but he did
  look gorgeous at NY premiere, didn't he girls? >>

  He is definitely a cutie, that is for sure.   I actually liked him better
on the Today Show than
  the premiere.  I liked his suit, but I wanted to unbutton his blazer so
he'd look less stuffy.  I
  love Dan's blue eyes though, and his shirt brought those eyes out.  I did
not like Rupert's hair.
  He is a good looking guy too, at least I thought so in the movie trailers,
but I didn't like it covering
  his face.  I didn't mind the length.  I actually don't mind guys with long
hair, but I thought it looked
  a little girly kind of curled around his eyes.   They are all good looking
kids though, and I know their
  parents are very proud of them.

  Kimberly



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From barbienut75 at earthlink.net  Wed May 26 04:59:25 2004
From: barbienut75 at earthlink.net (barbienut75)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 04:59:25 -0000
Subject: Maggie Smith films
In-Reply-To: <c90kmn+l34t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9187d+c6gu@eGroups.com>

"linda_gaunt" <linda_gaunt at y...> wrote:
> Just scanning through some of the postings and thought I'd mention 
> another of Maggie Smith's former roles. Apologies if I'm repeating 
> something! Maggie has actually worked with Dan before on the BBC 
> production of David Copperfield, she played his aunt, Betsy 
> Trotwood. She was also in a little-known film called The Private 
> Life of Judith Hearne, in about 1988, where the part of Young 
> Priest was played by a certain actor called Alan Radcliffe! 


I don't know if anyone mentioned this one yet, but didn't Maggie Play 
one of the "sisters" in Sister Act 1 & 2?

"barbienut75"




From clshannon at aol.com  Wed May 26 05:32:10 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 01:32:10 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Maggie Smith films
Message-ID: <15a.35fff4e6.2de585da@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/25/04 7:06:33 PM, linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk writes:


> Just scanning through some of the postings and thought I'd mention
> another of Maggie Smith's former roles. Apologies if I'm repeating
> something! Maggie has actually worked with Dan before on the BBC
> production of David Copperfield, she played his aunt, Betsy
> Trotwood. She was also in a little-known film called The Private
> Life of Judith Hearne, in about 1988, where the part of Young Priest
> was played by a certain actor called Alan Radcliffe!
> 

Yep, I mentioned David Copperfield - a wonderful performance! I loved her in 
that and I've watched it more than once. Of course, it helps that Daniel is 
adorable in it too ;-) I especially love their scenes together, but I hope she 
never reminded him that she bathed him in that movie, lol!

Now, that bit about his dad being in a movie with Maggie Smith is really 
freaky ;-) I knew his dad and mom were actors a long time ago, but they never 
pursued it much and got into other careers.   I wonder if Dame Maggie even 
remembers Alan from that movie. <g>
Cindy


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From dianasdolls at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 05:57:39 2004
From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 05:57:39 -0000
Subject: HBO First Look on POA premiered tonight
Message-ID: <c91bkj+100r1@eGroups.com>

HBO showed their "First Look at Harry Potter and The Prisoner of 
Azkaban" tonight!  It was quite good - enough little details to be 
exciting, but not so much that it spoiled the movie!  

There were brief interviews with all the major characters, including 
David Thewlis, Michael Gambon and Gary Oldman.  And the interviews 
with Maggie Smith, Emma Thompson, the trio, and the director and 
producer had different some stuff in them than what's been played 
before.  

LOTS and LOTS of behind the scenes footage - quite a bit for only a 
15 minute program.  A good look at Buckbeak, the dementors, Harry 
overhearing some things [as Harry always does], his angry outburst 
at the Dursleys....and more.

I'm definitely pulling my son out of school on June 4th to go see 
the movie!  

Diana L.
dianasdolls  




From patientx3 at aol.com  Wed May 26 08:19:44 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 04:19:44 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Spoilers - my POA review
Message-ID: <199.2a40c48e.2de5ad20@aol.com>

Thank you so much for sending that in! Its nice to know what WON'T be in the 
movie ahead of time so I won't be waiting for it and get disappointed (and 
thus distracted).

S
P
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S
P
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Theresa wrote:
>> There is a line that shocked me, they put this line in the 
film. Marge states the breeding problem (referring to Harry) comes 
from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
something wrong with the pup" <<

I can't believe that made it to the movie either, I expected that to get 
written out (like Draco's harshest lines to Ron), IMO, its the *worst* of all the 
horrible things she says about Harry's family.

>>The Fat Lady does get slashed but you never meet Sir Cadogen nor does 
Neville lose the passwords nor Sirius get in and slash Ron's 
bedcurtains. Kind of miss seeing those scenes.  <<

No Sir Cadogen at all? I thought an actor had been cast for the part. Maybe 
it was cut out. (I'm very disappointed by the way, that they'll be no Sirius 
attacking Ron scene, but, again, its better to know now so I can get over it 
before I see the movie). 

>>The part with Snape and the map is a bit different from the book 
whereas, late one night Harry is watching the map (the map is done 
well with names and stuff), and Harry sees Peter Petigrew's name on 
the map so he sneaks off to I suppose catch him which is when Snape 
finds him with the map. It insults him once and Harry reads it to him<<

I can't wait to see that. Its fantastic that the map insulting Snape made it 
to the movie, even if its not explained that James/Sirius/Lupin/Peter wrote 
the map. Although I wonder if the films are *ever* going to bring up that Snape 
hates James Potter, or if its going to be a surprise in OotP (they certainly 
can't cut the pensieve scene out). I'm still surprised that it wasn't at least 
*mentioned* in SS/PS, without the quick Snape-hates-James-Potter/Prank 
explanation, a lot of Snape's actions don't really make sense in SS/PS.

>> The shack scene is well done - Sirius is really maniacal - quite insane 
at first. He doesn't seem sad like in the book just crazy to kill 
Peter (well you figure that out later). When Remus comes in and he 
hugs Sirius - you can tell they are good friends.<<

Very much looking forward to seeing Gary Oldman 'maniacal' (yes, I know he's 
that way in *every* movie he's in), and I'm REALLY pleased that the hug 
between him and Lupin is still there, that moment gave me a HUGE shock when I first 
read the book.

>>Also Harry is the only one who attacked Snape but it was cool to see him 
fly and crash the bed. <<

At least Snape makes it to the Shack, I was worrying for awhile that him and 
Sirius wouldn't be face to face until GoF.

>>This is the last you see of Snape so he does not pitch 
his fit later on. Oh well I would have loved that.<<

That being cut out is almost enough to make me cry. Alan Rickman does a 
screaming rage so perfectly its a shame to deprieve us of it. That, and its one of 
my favorite scenes in the book, especially the way he jumps to it being 
Harry's fault but can't prove it, the amount of rage becomes rather funny.

>>One part that is a little funny is 
Hermione2 critiquing Hermione1's hair. <<

Not *quite* in character for Hermione to do something like that, but it 
sounds pretty funny, so it doesn't matter (even bookish girls care about their 
looks sometimes I suppose).

>>but there is no permission slip for the next year for Hogsmeade. Guess they 
will need to fix that for GOF if they even go to Hogsmeade in GOF film 
version. <<

That'll be easy enough to fix, Sirius is supposed to write Harry at the 
beginning anyway (although it could easily end up cut out), they could slip that in 
then. Hopefully they go to Hogsmeade in GoF, or we will miss out on the trio 
talking to Sirius in the cave. 

Again, thanks for the review, and it wasn't too spoilish, at least not for 
all of us who've read the book many times.


-Rebecca


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From clshannon at aol.com  Wed May 26 08:31:20 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 04:31:20 EDT
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
Message-ID: <15d.361fb10f.2de5afd8@aol.com>

Okay, just watched this and I have to say - that talent he has for turning 
his hand 360 degrees around really freaked me out ;-) The elbow joint was facing 
the opposite way - ewwwww! Great talent though, he could have his arm broken 
in a movie and it would look real   without having to use special effects. <g>
He was really cute on the show. So much the 'teenager' now, compared to his 
previous appearances for the other movies. Sort of like the Extra coverage of 
the red carpet when the reporter asked him if he felt like a rock star because 
of all the screaming and he responded, 'yeah, let's go to a festival, hell 
yeah!' <g> 
Ah, he's growing up ;-)
Cindy


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From caroline.bulcke at telenet.be  Wed May 26 09:13:16 2004
From: caroline.bulcke at telenet.be (Caroline Bulcke)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:13:16 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Maggie Smith films
Message-ID: <00a801c44301$af4eecb0$632ee0d5@sn4097187063>


Yes, mother superiour in fact!

caroline


----- Original Message ----- 
From: barbienut75 
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:59 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Maggie Smith films



I don't know if anyone mentioned this one yet, but didn't Maggie Play 
one of the "sisters" in Sister Act 1 & 2?

"barbienut75"



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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 12:20:32 2004
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: free advance screening of PoA in Salt Lake City
Message-ID: <20040526122032.29335.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com>

In case you haven't heard yet...

PC Laptops will be holding a special 
advance screening of PoA at 8:15 p.m. on 
Thursday, June 3, 2004 at Megaplex 12 at 
the Gateway movie theater complex in 
Salt Lake City, Utah.

More than 250 tickets will be provided 
free to PC Laptops customers and "Harry 
Potter" fans who attend a special 
promotional activity at 12 p.m. on 
Saturday, May 29, at the Megaplex 12 at 
the Gateway.

For more details, see:

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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040525/255876_1.html

Petra
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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 26 13:49:57 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:49:57 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <15d.361fb10f.2de5afd8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BCDA18C5.B2C%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Wasn't he great?!! He does seem a bit nervous, but also fascinated by his
"fame" and the extreme reaction of his fans.
And as far as being a hottie, I feel ridiculous to be thinking that, as I am
probably older than his Mother!!! (I'm 40, had graduated college before he
was even born!). But hey, I ain't dead, right!? I can still appreciate a
"budding young hottie". (those blue eyes kill me!) He's definitely a teen
now. That was so cute what he said about having a crush on Brody Doyle, from
the punk band "Brody Doyle and the Distillers". I quote, "She's hot in that
'I haven't slept in days' way!" ;-)  I looked 'em up. I've attached a few
pix, and their website if you are interested. She looks and sounds a bit
"Courtney Love" to me. Except with black hair instead of the bleach-blond.
http://thedistillers.com/

That one reviewer's comment after the SS special about Dan and Emma turning
into attractive people, I thought was a little unfair. I think Rupert is
turning out quite cute as well!

bewitchedbyhp



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From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 14:29:16 2004
From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:29:16 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c90eu8+fqj0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c929js+lime@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" <anmsmom333 at c...> 
wrote:
> Okay some of you asked for a spoiler type review so if you are not 
> one of the fans who wants to know spoilers please STOP reading 
now. 
.
> 
> Here let me do this properly...
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> 
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
> There. Sure you want to know? Well...
> 
Aunt Marge is blabbing away about what a nuisance 
> Harry is. There is a line that shocked me, they put this line in 
the 
> film. Marge states the breeding problem (referring to Harry) comes 
> from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
> like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
> something wrong with the pup" and that is when Harry shouts "shut 
up" 
> and she begins to inflate like a helium balloon. That was well 
done 
> and quite amusing. 

> Theresa

Thank you, Theresa, for a fine review of the new HP movie.  I would 
like to talk about Aunt Marge's comment about dog breeding for a 
moment.  I am sad for you that you were shocked by the word "b---h", 
but there was no reason for it, since the word as used is perectly 
innocent.  If I understand it correctly, the word does not carry the 
same emotional impact in England as it does here, when used t 
describe a female dog, an even in the U.S., dog breeders use the 
word with no intent to curse.

Think of it this way:  We all don't get upset at the name for the 
big wall put up in a river to hold back the floodwater, and 
sometimes make hydroelectricity, do we?  Nobody insists we call it 
a "darn"!

Interestingly enough we ignore this when the strength of emotion in 
the word goes the other way.  We named the Austin Powers movie "The 
Spy Who S----d Me".  In England, "s----ed" is as srong a curse as 
the F-word is here.

I hope this helps you feel better about JKR's language, which is 
perfectly innocent-- except for Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, 
perhaps!  :)

Haggridd 




From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Wed May 26 15:13:49 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:13:49 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c929js+lime@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c92c7d+24t9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Haggridd" <jkusalavagemd at y...> 
wrote:
s
p
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> > from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
> > like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
> > something wrong with the pup" and that is when Harry shouts "shut 
> Thank you, Theresa, for a fine review of the new HP movie.  I would 
> like to talk about Aunt Marge's comment about dog breeding for a 
> moment.  I am sad for you that you were shocked by the word "b---> 
I hope this helps you feel better about JKR's language, which is 
> perfectly innocent-- except for Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, 
> perhaps!  :)
> 
> Haggridd

I don't know that it's entirely innocent. I agree of course that 
Marge is using "bitch" in the dog-breeding sense, but what makes it 
so particularly offensive nevertheless,(and I rather think she knows 
it) is that she's using it to make a direct parallel to Lily and 
Harry!

Sophia




From bigredpanda at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 15:33:27 2004
From: bigredpanda at yahoo.com (bigredpanda)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:33:27 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <BCDA18C5.B2C%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c92dc7+9m6t@eGroups.com>

I have to agree, Valerie!  He is turning into quite a hunk!  (And, 
yes, I'm waaaay too old at 39, but maybe I could set him up with my 
daughter?!)

Did you notice how muscular he's getting?  Must be all the martial 
arts and gymnastics training he's been doing.  I can't wait to see 
him continue to mature.

I also caught Dan and Emma on TRL, and it was so sweet the way Dan 
said he feels like Emma is a sister and that he's overly protective 
of her at times.  I think that'll play out nicely in the movies.

9 more days and counting!  I already purchased advanced tickets for 
the very first showing on June 4 - I'm as impatient as my daughter 
to see it.

Diane in Nebraska

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> Wasn't he great?!! He does seem a bit nervous, but also fascinated 
by his
> "fame" and the extreme reaction of his fans.
> And as far as being a hottie, I feel ridiculous to be thinking 
that, as I am
> probably older than his Mother!!! (I'm 40, had graduated college 
before he
> was even born!). But hey, I ain't dead, right!? I can still 
appreciate a
> "budding young hottie". (those blue eyes kill me!) He's definitely 
a teen
> now. That was so cute what he said about having a crush on Brody 
Doyle, from
> the punk band "Brody Doyle and the Distillers". I quote, "She's 
hot in that
> 'I haven't slept in days' way!" ;-)  I looked 'em up. I've 
attached a few
> pix, and their website if you are interested. She looks and sounds 
a bit
> "Courtney Love" to me. Except with black hair instead of the 
bleach-blond.
> http://thedistillers.com/
> 
> That one reviewer's comment after the SS special about Dan and 
Emma turning
> into attractive people, I thought was a little unfair. I think 
Rupert is
> turning out quite cute as well!
> 
> bewitchedbyhp
> 
> 
> 
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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Wed May 26 16:00:12 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:00:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan on Conan O'Brien
References: <15d.361fb10f.2de5afd8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003901c4433a$8b292470$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>



He was really cute on Conan.  I thought he looked really relaxed and comfortable, and very
down to earth.  

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: clshannon at aol.com 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:31 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan on Conan O'Brien


  Okay, just watched this and I have to say - that talent he has for turning 
  his hand 360 degrees around really freaked me out ;-) The elbow joint was facing 
  the opposite way - ewwwww! Great talent though, he could have his arm broken 
  in a movie and it would look real   without having to use special effects. <g>
  He was really cute on the show. So much the 'teenager' now, compared to his 
  previous appearances for the other movies. Sort of like the Extra coverage of 
  the red carpet when the reporter asked him if he felt like a rock star because 
  of all the screaming and he responded, 'yeah, let's go to a festival, hell 
  yeah!' <g> 
  Ah, he's growing up ;-)
  Cindy


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed May 26 16:06:44 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:06:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan on Conan O'Brien
Message-ID: <20040526160644.PSMQ1910.out010.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>

From: "bigredpanda" <bigredpanda at yahoo.com>
I have to agree, Valerie!? He is turning into quite a hunk!? (And, 
yes, I'm waaaay too old at 39, but maybe I could set him up with my 
daughter?!)

yes, my daughters are 6, but that's closer than 40!Ha!

Did you notice how muscular he's getting?? Must be all the martial 
arts and gymnastics training he's been doing.? I can't wait to see 
him continue to mature.

Um, yes, I did notice those nice arms! Has he been doing a lot of training 
then, for the films?

I also caught Dan and Emma on TRL, and it was so sweet the way Dan 
said he feels like Emma is a sister and that he's overly protective 
of her at times.? I think that'll play out nicely in the movies.

Waaaa! I don't have HBO! Wished I'd seen this. My husband's starting to worry 
about me, as I am in a taping frenzy these days with all these public 
appearances. BTW, what happened to the supposed HP/POA special on "E" last 
night a 7 pm? I taped it and it was just American Idol and some other "E" Extra 
stuff about everything except HP. Did I have the wrong day/time? Bummer!

bewitchedbyHP



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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Wed May 26 16:16:42 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:16:42 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HBO First Look on POA premiered tonight
References: <c91bkj+100r1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004501c4433c$d82998c0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY>



I loved it!  I watched it twice last night.  I never realized how good looking Trewlis (Lupin) is.
He doesn't look that great as Lupin, but I thought he was rather cute.

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Diana 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:57 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HBO First Look on POA premiered tonight


  HBO showed their "First Look at Harry Potter and The Prisoner of 
  Azkaban" tonight!  It was quite good - enough little details to be 
  exciting, but not so much that it spoiled the movie!  

  There were brief interviews with all the major characters, including 
  David Thewlis, Michael Gambon and Gary Oldman.  And the interviews 
  with Maggie Smith, Emma Thompson, the trio, and the director and 
  producer had different some stuff in them than what's been played 
  before.  

  LOTS and LOTS of behind the scenes footage - quite a bit for only a 
  15 minute program.  A good look at Buckbeak, the dementors, Harry 
  overhearing some things [as Harry always does], his angry outburst 
  at the Dursleys....and more.

  I'm definitely pulling my son out of school on June 4th to go see 
  the movie!  

  Diana L.
  dianasdolls  



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From nostrebor at runbox.com  Wed May 26 16:23:10 2004
From: nostrebor at runbox.com (Jodi Robertson)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:23:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan on Conan O'Brien
References: <c92dc7+9m6t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <00e101c4433d$bdf6a320$51498741@user7i1hr4si1m>

Ok - How many of you tried to turn your arm like that already? LOL! I was
hoping to get advanced tickets to see it at the IMAX on June 4 but three of
the show times were already sold out (and work would be quite mad if I
called in - they'd know where I was LOL!). So I got advanced for Saturday
and also tickets for the regular non-IMAX show on June 4. I'm hoping the
movie theatre I bought them from will have a midnight show where I can go
and trade the tickets for.
Jodi


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bigredpanda" <bigredpanda at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan on Conan O'Brien


> I have to agree, Valerie!  He is turning into quite a hunk!  (And,
> yes, I'm waaaay too old at 39, but maybe I could set him up with my
> daughter?!)
>
> Did you notice how muscular he's getting?  Must be all the martial
> arts and gymnastics training he's been doing.  I can't wait to see
> him continue to mature.
>
> I also caught Dan and Emma on TRL, and it was so sweet the way Dan
> said he feels like Emma is a sister and that he's overly protective
> of her at times.  I think that'll play out nicely in the movies.
>
> 9 more days and counting!  I already purchased advanced tickets for
> the very first showing on June 4 - I'm as impatient as my daughter
> to see it.
>
> Diane in Nebraska




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Wed May 26 16:27:17 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:27:17 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <BCDA18C5.B2C%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c92gh5+n4ec@eGroups.com>

Thanks for the link to the band. I watched it too (and I am so sleepy 
at work today but it was worth it - just need more caffine) and had 
no idea when he mentioned her who she was (guess my age is showing 
here - I am 41). I am surprised what a contrast she is from is first 
crush Cameron Diaz. Cameron looks like the sweet little innocent and 
Brody looks like such a bad girl. She is pretty though. I like her 
eyes and she reminds me a little of Joan Jett who I have had to 
endure years of the hubby saying what a hottie about.

I thought he was very well spoken on the show. Less nervous than the 
past and easier to follow then Tom Arnold who spoke before him. Tom 
totally lost me a couple of time. I also thought it was weird about 
the 360 degree thing with his arm. Wonder if he freaks the girls out 
on the set with that. It was cute too that he wanted to pull the 
lever. 

And yes he is a very nice looking young man - love his eyes but so 
are Rupert, Emma and Tom Felton (I liked him with short hair). In 
fact, I think I saw Marry me Rupert signs too at the premiere. I 
think Rupert's shyness keeps people from noticing him too much. Dan 
has looks and a wonderful presence so he is noticed right away and it 
does not help that he is the main character. As for Emma even Tom 
Felton (who also has quite a following) has mention he thinks she is 
attractive and my 12 year old son and his friends have referred to 
her as one hot girl. Good thing for us older folks there is Alan 
Rickman, Gary Oldman and David Thewlis. These men all have gorgeous 
eyes so at least I have something to look at too. ;oP

BTW - did you all watch the HBO special too? It was pretty good but 
too short. I wish it was a half hour instead of 15 minutes.

Theresa






From bigredpanda at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 19:15:53 2004
From: bigredpanda at yahoo.com (bigredpanda)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 19:15:53 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <20040526160644.PSMQ1910.out010.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c92qd9+cm0j@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> From: "bigredpanda" <bigredpanda at y...>
> I have to agree, Valerie!? He is turning into quite a hunk!? (And, 
> yes, I'm waaaay too old at 39, but maybe I could set him up with 
my 
> daughter?!)
> 
> yes, my daughters are 6, but that's closer than 40!Ha!

Well, my daughter is 11 1/2, so she's close, at least!
 
> Did you notice how muscular he's getting?? Must be all the martial 
> arts and gymnastics training he's been doing.? I can't wait to see 
> him continue to mature.
> 
> Um, yes, I did notice those nice arms! Has he been doing a lot of 
training 
> then, for the films?

Yes.  I saw an interview with him once where he said in order to do 
the stunts better and even just to hold Hedwig on his arm (owl's are 
fairly heavy) he'd been doing martial arts and gymnastics quite a 
bit.
 
> I also caught Dan and Emma on TRL, and it was so sweet the way Dan 
> said he feels like Emma is a sister and that he's overly 
protective 
> of her at times.? I think that'll play out nicely in the movies.
> 
> Waaaa! I don't have HBO! Wished I'd seen this. My husband's 
starting to worry 
> about me, as I am in a taping frenzy these days with all these 
public 
> appearances. BTW, what happened to the supposed HP/POA special 
on "E" last 
> night a 7 pm? I taped it and it was just American Idol and some 
other "E" Extra 
> stuff about everything except HP. Did I have the wrong day/time? 
Bummer!

Actually, we don't have cable, but I found the TRL interview 
online.  You can download it at 

http://www.emmawatson-fans.com/Home.htm

and scroll down to Mon May 24th.

> bewitchedbyHP

Diane in Nebraska





From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Wed May 26 21:15:29 2004
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:15:29 +0100
Subject: For the Brits on the list
Message-ID: <v01540b00bcdab7dbda4b@[217.154.248.237]>

To my fellow Brits;

Mark your calendars; Bank Holiday Monday, 11.00 a.m. ITV1
'The Making of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban'.

Cheers,
Nicholas

and 7.00 p.m. Nick goes to see Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban!!





From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Wed May 26 20:22:28 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:22:28 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <20040526160644.PSMQ1910.out010.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c92ua4+hsvk@eGroups.com>

 Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> From: "bigredpanda" <bigredpanda at y...>

 I have to agree, Valerie!? He is turning into quite a hunk!? (And, 
> yes, I'm waaaay too old at 39, but maybe I could set him up with my 
> daughter?!)
 
Yup. I'm old enough to be his mom too and though he still mostly 
comes across to me as the adorable kid-turning-teen, every once in a 
while I can most definitely see the budding hink in there, especially 
in some of the promo pics--I just have to do a double take, you 
know?  
> Did you notice how muscular he's getting?? Must be all the martial 
> arts and gymnastics training he's been doing.? 

He's got the wiry thing going. (muscles or no, he seems to be in a 
particularly skinny phase, don't you think?)
 
> Waaaa! I don't have HBO! Wished I'd seen this. 

 But you CAN see it! It's all available for downloading on 
www.mugglenet.com Just scroll down a little among the updates.Enjoy!

Sophia




From Ali at zymurgy.org  Wed May 26 20:26:24 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:26:24 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c929js+lime@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c92uhg+gkbk@eGroups.com>

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" <anmsmom333 at c...> 
> wrote:

> Marge states the breeding problem (referring to Harry) comes 
> > from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
> > like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
> > something wrong with the pup" 

Haggridd wrote:- 

> Thank you, Theresa, for a fine review of the new HP movie.  I 
would like to talk about Aunt Marge's comment about dog breeding for 
a moment. >

I agree. I'm now beginning to regret reading all the reviews, but 
I've throughly enjoyed reading them! 

Haggridd again:-

<<<I am sad for you that you were shocked by the word "b---h", 
 but there was no reason for it, since the word as used is perectly 
 innocent.  If I understand it correctly, the word does not carry 
the same emotional impact in England as it does here, when used t 
 describe a female dog, an even in the U.S., dog breeders use the 
 word with no intent to curse.>>>

It's hard for me to say whether "bitch" carries the same level of 
vehemence here in the UK as it does in the States. I certainly have 
no problem in writing it. But, it does carry exactly the same nasty 
connotations as you describe. It's a lot stronger than calling 
someone a "cow" for example. We do have the phrase "to bitch about" 
when people are talking unpleasantly about a third party behind 
their back.

And of course, Marge is a dog breeder. That is the only way IMO that 
she can get away with using that phrase. It is the name for a female 
dog, and Marge is using the phrase within context. By the way, I am 
not trying to justify what she said. It was despicable and 
outrageous. I don't suppose I was the only one who enjoyed her 
getting her comeuppance!!

Haggridd:

>>> Interestingly enough we ignore this when the strength of emotion 
in the word goes the other way.  We named the Austin Powers 
movie "The Spy Who S----d Me".  In England, "s----ed" is as srong a 
curse as the F-word is here.>>>

Err, not so. I had to look up the word you meant, as I had a total 
mental blank. That work is a colloquial term which you perhaps 
wouldn't hear in "polite" company. But then, what alternate term 
would you hear in polite company? I wouldn't class it as a swear 
word at all. In terms of "strength" of swear word, "bloody" is much 
stronger, and that's considered ok for a PG-rated film.

Ali





From patientx3 at aol.com  Wed May 26 20:48:08 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (patientx3 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:48:08 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan on Conan O'Brien
Message-ID: <87.ce00f32.2de65c88@aol.com>

Kimberly wrote:
>>He was really cute on Conan.  I thought he looked really relaxed and 
comfortable<<

Personally, he still seemed really nervous to me. I agree with who ever said 
he was well-spoken, because he was, but he looked like he was a little on edge 
(did anyone else notice him playing with his hands at the beginning of the 
interview?). The interview was great though, and Conan is a lot less obnoixious 
than I thought he was (the whole thing with the lever and the Walker, Texas 
Ranger clips was rather funny). 

-Rebecca
PS. There was a TV spot that I've never seen before that aired during on of 
the commercials, it had Ron saying "nice doggy to Werewolf Lupin, looks like a 
rather intense scene.


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From jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com  Wed May 26 21:23:48 2004
From: jkusalavagemd at yahoo.com (Haggridd)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:23:48 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c92c7d+24t9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c931t4+afdb@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Haggridd" 
<jkusalavagemd at y...> 
> wrote:
> s
> p
> o
> i
> l
> e
> r
> s
> p
> a
> c
> e
> > > from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
> > > like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
> > > something wrong with the pup" and that is when Harry 
shouts "shut 
> > Thank you, Theresa, for a fine review of the new HP movie.  I 
would 
> > like to talk about Aunt Marge's comment about dog breeding for a 
> > moment.  I am sad for you that you were shocked by the word "b---
> 
> I hope this helps you feel better about JKR's language, which is 
> > perfectly innocent-- except for Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, 
> > perhaps!  :)
> > 
> > Haggridd
> 
> I don't know that it's entirely innocent. I agree of course that 
> Marge is using "bitch" in the dog-breeding sense, but what makes 
it 
> so particularly offensive nevertheless,(and I rather think she 
knows 
> it) is that she's using it to make a direct parallel to Lily and 
> Harry!
> 
> Sophia

Sophia, you are entirely correct that Aunt Marge is being very 
insulting and is implying poor breeding to Lily and Harry.  My point 
is that the word "bitch" is not used as a curseword, but only to the 
extent that it means to cheapen the Potter-Evans bloodline.  She 
might just as easily said "dam" and "colt", but Aunt Marge is a dog 
breeder, not a horse breeder.


Haggridd




From marley2580 at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed May 26 21:18:44 2004
From: marley2580 at blueyonder.co.uk (marl2580)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:18:44 -0000
Subject: For the Brits on the list
In-Reply-To: <v01540b00bcdab7dbda4b@[217.154.248.237]>
Message-ID: <c931jk+kt30@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, nicholas at a... wrote:


> and 7.00 p.m. Nick goes to see Harry Potter and the Prisoner 
of Azkaban!!


Ooh, I'm going at 7:45, isn't it great that we get to see it before 
the rest of the world ;-)

"marl2580"




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Thu May 27 05:04:52 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 05:04:52 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c931t4+afdb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c93stk+56k8@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Haggridd" <jkusalavagemd at y...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Haggridd" 
> <jkusalavagemd at y...> 
> > wrote:
> > s
> > p
> > o
> > i
> > l
> > e
> > r
> > s
> > p
> > a
> > c
> > e
> > > > from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was 
something 
> > > > like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there 
is 
> > > > something wrong with the pup" and that is when Harry 
> shouts "shut 
> > > Thank you, Theresa, for a fine review of the new HP movie.  I 
> would 
> > > like to talk about Aunt Marge's comment about dog breeding for 
a 
> > > moment.  I am sad for you that you were shocked by the word "b--
-
> > 
> > I hope this helps you feel better about JKR's language, which is 
> > > perfectly innocent-- except for Dumbledore's brother Aberforth, 
> > > perhaps!  :)
> > > 
> > > Haggridd
> > 
> > I don't know that it's entirely innocent. I agree of course that 
> > Marge is using "bitch" in the dog-breeding sense, but what makes 
> it 
> > so particularly offensive nevertheless,(and I rather think she 
> knows 
> > it) is that she's using it to make a direct parallel to Lily and 
> > Harry!
> > 
> > Sophia
> 
> Sophia, you are entirely correct that Aunt Marge is being very 
> insulting and is implying poor breeding to Lily and Harry.  My 
point 
> is that the word "bitch" is not used as a curseword, but only to 
the 
> extent that it means to cheapen the Potter-Evans bloodline.  She 
> might just as easily said "dam" and "colt", but Aunt Marge is a dog 
> breeder, not a horse breeder.
> 
> 
> Haggridd

Oh my! I stand humbly before all of you. I picked up my copy of POA 
today and reread that section. I am so ashamed, I forgot when 
watching the film that JK had actually had that line in the book. I 
must have read POA at least a dozen times as it is my favorite but I 
guess I always ignored the word. Either that or seeing it written and 
reading it doesn't have the impact that hearing Pam Ferris say it out 
loud did. I wanted to blow her up myself hearing it. I think there 
are 2 reasons I was so surprised, first Petunia just sits there not 
saying a word and golly this is her bloodline too but of course she 
hated her "freak sister" and two I had just read somewhere that 
Alfonso's contract said not to curse in front of the cast so when I 
heard that word, it was like wait a minute. Of course as someone said 
bloody hell is not a word for proper conversation either. At least 
they aren't saying Hugh Grant's seemingly favorite b word, starts 
with bug. I have a British friend who cringes whenever she hears 
that. Apparently, she spent a few hours in detention when she was 14 
for saying that word and getting caught by her headmistress. Anyway, 
I do love the books and all three of the films so this was just a 
minor thing. And you are quite right Marge is a dog breeder so that 
is not a curse word to her but it is still quite an insult to Lily. 
Too bad the ministry deflats her and modifies her memory. It would be 
funny to leave her floating around the sky like a balloon.

Theresa




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Thu May 27 05:13:51 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 05:13:51 -0000
Subject: Tom Felton's take on the NY premiere
Message-ID: <c93tef+t31n@eGroups.com>

Hey, if you go on Mugglenet as well as The Leaky Cauldron like I do 
(love both sites) there is a link to Tom's official site where he has 
a little blog on the NY premiere. I laughed when he mentions how Emma 
looked gorgeous. Made me think of all the fanfics out there where 
Draco secretly likes Hermione. I don't see it but this was funny to 
see. Here is the link...

http://www.thomasfelton.com/blog.html (thanks to Mugglenet)

Theresa




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu May 27 12:59:42 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:59:42 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <87.ce00f32.2de65c88@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BCDB5E7E.B56%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: patientx3 at aol.com

Personally, he still seemed really nervous to me. I agree with who ever said
he was well-spoken, because he was, but he looked like he was a little on
edge 
(did anyone else notice him playing with his hands at the beginning of the
interview?). The interview was great though, and Conan is a lot less
obnoixious 
than I thought he was (the whole thing with the lever and the Walker, Texas
Ranger clips was rather funny).

Yeah, Conan is actually pretty darn funny. I prefer him to Leno. My friend
went to high school with him, and said he was very popular in an odd, quirky
way!

Yeah, I think Dan always seems as though he's holding his breath in
interviews, like he's nervous. I did notice him fiddling with his hands on
both Conan and the Today show. Maybe because he was in front of a ton of
people. Whereas when he did the SS Special with Emma and Rupert, he seemed
very relaxed. There were probably only 10 or so people there (camera crew,
director, etc), and he's used to being on camera that way.

Wasn't it funny on Conan when he had to take a sip of water and Conan said
"THAT'S NOT WATER! Oh, I thought that was Tom Arnold's drink" (like it was
straight vodka or something!) I think Conan got a kick out of Dan when he
was talking about his crush on Brody, the crazy arm twist, and the red
Cadillac!
Tom Arnold seemed like he was on major speed, didn't he? Is he always that
"all over the place"?

bewitchedbyhp

8 days and counting...!!! 


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu May 27 13:03:29 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:03:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: For the Brits on the list
In-Reply-To: <c931jk+kt30@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCDB5F61.B58%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


Ooh, I'm going at 7:45, isn't it great that we get to see it before
the rest of the world ;-)

"marl2580"


Ok, Ok, I guess that's fair, since Harry does originate in England. But the
rest of the world loves him too! Have a great time, and check back in with
your reviews!

bewitchedbyhp
in Washington, DC, U.S.A.



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu May 27 13:42:49 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:42:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Tom Felton's take on the NY premiere
In-Reply-To: <c93tef+t31n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCDB6899.B5B%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Hey, if you go on Mugglenet as well as The Leaky Cauldron like I do
(love both sites) there is a link to Tom's official site where he has
a little blog on the NY premiere. I laughed when he mentions how Emma
looked gorgeous. Made me think of all the fanfics out there where
Draco secretly likes Hermione. I don't see it but this was funny to
see. Here is the link...

http://www.thomasfelton.com/blog.html (thanks to Mugglenet)

Theresa

Thanks for the link Theresa! Draco, aka Tom, sounds like a really nice guy.
I love his "blogs", whatever those are. A Brit term, no doubt?!
Funny how he mentions that he likes the Jordan shoes and clothes, but was
wondering why everything is so big. American guys always wear shorts, pants
and shirts big and baggy.
Funny how he wasn't sure he liked it when 6,000 people cheered when Hermione
decked Draco! Ha!
I've always had in the back of my mind that by book 7 Hermione and Draco
will end up together. It seems as though his character needs to develop
somehow in 7 books, and I'm hoping he turns nice and becomes friends with
Harry, Ron and Hermione. But then again, I like Happy Endings!  :-)

bewitchedbyhp




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From redina at silverbloom.net  Thu May 27 14:17:19 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:17:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Tom Felton's take on the NY premiere
In-Reply-To: <BCDB6899.B5B%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
References: <c93tef+t31n@eGroups.com>
    <BCDB6899.B5B%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <2893.4.47.27.214.1085667439.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Valerie Flowe said:

> I love his "blogs", whatever those are. A Brit term, no doubt?!

No, not a British term.  Blog is short for weblog.


> I've always had in the back of my mind that by book 7 Hermione and Draco
> will end up together.

Not per JKR.  She explicitly stated Hermione and Draco don't get together.
 I believe she thought it odd fans paired them up.

Then again, I'm a slasher and can bet my preferred pairings don't have a
chance in hell. {g}

Dina

-- 
Mirrormere @ http://avia.silverbloom.net/mirror/
 ^-large archive for LOTR FPS or RPS, HP & Oz fanfic
LOTR RPS @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LOTR_RPS
My bunniqula blog @ http://archive.nu/bunniblog/




From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Thu May 27 15:03:06 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Tom Felton's take on the NY premiere
In-Reply-To: <BCDB6899.B5B%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20040527150306.45053.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net> wrote:

I love his "blogs", whatever those are. A Brit term,
no doubt?!

No, a blog is a weblog, a sort of online journal. 
Lots of people have them; my sig contains a link to
mine.

Gretchen

=====
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From lbiles at flash.net  Thu May 27 19:23:29 2004
From: lbiles at flash.net (leb2323)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:23:29 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
Message-ID: <c95f7h+go0s@eGroups.com>

I saw a little blurb in the Dallas Morning News today that ananova.com 
was reporting that the producer or someone like that has pretty much 
guaranteed that the trio will be played by different actors for the 
5th movie and later.  When I went to the site to see the whole 
story what I found instead was an interview where Dan Radcliffe is 
predicting that Harry will die by the end of the series.  I have to go 
pick up the kiddos at their last day of school and don't have time to 
dig any deeper right now.  Sure hope that both things are wrong wrong 
wrong!!!

leb




From clshannon at aol.com  Thu May 27 19:31:19 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:31:19 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
Message-ID: <145.2aaf63fd.2de79c07@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/27/04 12:26:55 PM, lbiles at flash.net writes:


> I saw a little blurb in the Dallas Morning News today that ananova.com
> was reporting that the producer or someone like that has pretty much
> guaranteed that the trio will be played by different actors for the
> 5th movie and later.? When I went to the site to see the whole
> story what I found instead was an interview where Dan Radcliffe is
> predicting that Harry will die by the end of the series.? I have to go
> pick up the kiddos at their last day of school and don't have time to
> dig any deeper right now.? Sure hope that both things are wrong wrong
> wrong!!!
> 

Actually, if you go the Leaky Cauldron site, you can find a link about the 
first thing you mentioned. David Heyman was talking about 'aging stars', etc. 
It's pretty much what others have speculated on because the kids chose to sign 
for each film individually instead of signing for all 4 at once when it all 
started. Alfonso Cuaron immediately countered this Heyman interview by saying 
that the kids could easily do all the movies and actors play younger all the time 
(besides, they wouldn't be that much older than the characters anyway).
It's all really nothing - same stuff we have always been hearing.
As or Dan's interview, I think there is a link on Leaky to that as well. He 
was speculating, pure and simple, and I guess he has as much right as anyone to 
do that about Harry ;-) 
Of course, no one knows Harry's fate other than Rowling, so maybe we should 
just let her tell us in her own good time <g>
Cindy


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From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Thu May 27 20:57:00 2004
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:57:00 -0000
Subject: POA spoiler: marauder's map
Message-ID: <c95kms+gnp6@eGroups.com>

Read no further if you'd rather wait to find out how a marauder's map-
problem was solved on sreen.
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Actually, I'm not going to tell you here, only where you can see it!
Do any of you remeber how a looong time ago we discussed what moments 
we were most looking forward to in the movie? The scene with the 
Maruder's map insulting Snape came up. Some of us were saying how 
difficult it might be to translate it to the screen. Well it's there 
folks, though cropped, but I thought they came up with such a 
brilliant solution all the same that I had to hyperventilate with 
delight for a few seconds after I watched it. If you'd like to see a 
clip, go to www.danradcliffe.com for the link and instructions!!! 
(It's a clip shown as part of a longer interview for Reuters.)

Sophia




From karen-gary at worldnet.att.net  Thu May 27 22:51:33 2004
From: karen-gary at worldnet.att.net (Gary Sapp & Karen J.S.)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:51:33 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan O'Brien
In-Reply-To: <BCDB5E7E.B56%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c95rdl+475m@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at v...>
wrote:
 Tom Arnold seemed like he was on major speed, didn't he? Is he always
that
> "all over the place"?
> 
> bewitchedbyhp
> 
> 8 days and counting...!!! 
> 
> 
I think Arnold was acting weird because he is trying to stop smoking.
 I kept flipping back and forth between the show and something else
while I was waiting for Dan to appear because Arnold isn't one of my
favorite celebrities.  I did hear him say he was taking a lot of
nicorette and did seem jazzed up.

Daniel was great!  It was nice to have him just talk about teenage
stuff, like what neat tricks I can do, rock groups I like, who I have
a crush on and I want a pimp mobile...I had to laugh at his assertion
that he wouldn't be noticed in one.  Oh yeah?  A bright red cadillac
with him behind the wheel?  There would be a phalanx of cars following
him for sure.

Getting psyched for the movie!!

Karen




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri May 28 02:56:44 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:56:44 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] re: Blogs
In-Reply-To: <20040527150306.45053.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BCDC22AC.B6D%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>


No, a blog is a weblog, a sort of online journal.
Lots of people have them; my sig contains a link to
mine.

Gretchen

Thanks ya'll for the "blog" explanation. Guess I'm just not too hip on my
web lingo!  :-)

bewitchedbyhp

PS. We're going to Ocean City, Maryland for Memorial week. I have to say
that all I can think about is the POA release! I told my husband we have to
go see it there on Friday 6/4, and he replied "Whaaat? I don't have any
desire to see that!" Looks like it'll be just me and the kids. Or just me if
they don't want to go! I'm not missing it and that's that! ;-)



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri May 28 03:00:40 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:00:40 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Movies 4 and 5
In-Reply-To: <145.2aaf63fd.2de79c07@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BCDC2398.B6E%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Didn't I hear somewhere that they were going to shoot GOF and OOP at the
same time "a la LOTR"?

bewitchedbyhp




From amani at atlanticbb.net  Fri May 28 02:56:25 2004
From: amani at atlanticbb.net (Taryn Kimel)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:56:25 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Movies 4 and 5
References: <BCDC2398.B6E%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c4445f$5dd77640$0400a8c0@charterpa.com>

bewtichedbyhp:
Didn't I hear somewhere that they were going to shoot GOF and OOP at the
same time "a la LOTR"?

Taryn:
I very much doubt it, because the Trio are only signed through GoF at this time. There was just a recent article talking about how the WB had offered to sign them through the rest of the movies, but that they were still taking them one at a time. So it'd be impossible to shoot two of the movies simultaneously.

--Taryn

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From clshannon at aol.com  Fri May 28 02:56:55 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:56:55 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Movies 4 and 5
Message-ID: <24.575845ed.2de80477@aol.com>


In a message dated 5/27/04 7:54:38 PM, valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:


> Didn't I hear somewhere that they were going to shoot GOF and OOP at the
> same time "a la LOTR"?
> 

Well, I haven't heard anything like that. They are already filming GOF and I 
think we would have heard if they were doing two at once :-) 
Cindy 


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From HMaffioli at cox.net  Fri May 28 02:58:28 2004
From: HMaffioli at cox.net (Heather Maffioli)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:58:28 -0700
Subject: A link to my SPOILER FILLED preview of POA
Message-ID: <002301c4445f$a713efa0$6401a8c0@sd.cox.net>

Hey all,
I am having weird computer problems so I can't actually send the post but if you go here...

http://www.hpana.com/forums/topic_view.cfm?tid=2607

you should be able to read it.

Don't look unless you want to know what has been cut and what has been added.

Heather

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From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May 28 08:28:52 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (linda_gaunt)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:28:52 -0000
Subject: Dan on Conan Show
Message-ID: <c96t84+qfkc@eGroups.com>

Nice to know I'm not the only one over a certain age who thinks 
Dan's quite a hunk! My daughter, jokingly, says she'll be in therapy 
when she's my age!! She's more into Elijah Wood, another one with 
gorgeous blue eyes. I'd happily let her marry either of them. I 
thought it was funny, when I read a recent quote about Elijah being 
on the POA set, saying people sometimes think he's Harry Potter, and 
Dan said people mistake him for Frodo! Which is why I thought Dan's 
comments on the red cadillac, and not being noticed, was just his 
dry sense of humour. Well, that's how I took it, anyway, having that 
same humour myself.




From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May 28 08:36:58 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Gaunt?=)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:36:58 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: For the Brits on the list
In-Reply-To: <c931jk+kt30@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20040528083658.57536.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

My daughter and I are going at mid-day. Must set the video for the prog on ITV1!

marl2580 <marley2580 at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, nicholas at a... wrote:


> and 7.00 p.m. Nick goes to see Harry Potter and the Prisoner 
of Azkaban!!


Ooh, I'm going at 7:45, isn't it great that we get to see it before 
the rest of the world ;-)

"marl2580"



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From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May 28 08:46:43 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Gaunt?=)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:46:43 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
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It seems to me that each time a new HP film comes out, there is this big speculation about the trio doing all of them. I remember them saying when COS was released that they were doing the third movie, and no decision had been made about GOF. Now the same thing is happening again! I can't see any reason why they can't do them all - loads of actors play parts younger than their real age. John Travolta and Olivia Newton John in Grease, Michael J Fox in Bak to the Future, even Christian Coulson was 26, playing teenage Tom Riddle. I think Dan's already thinking about OOP - I read his review on the book on his website's 100 FAQs and he talks about the SCENES between Prof Umbridge and Harry, rather than the chapters. Or maybe that's just the actor talking? 


clshannon at aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 5/27/04 12:26:55 PM, lbiles at flash.net writes:


> I saw a little blurb in the Dallas Morning News today that ananova.com
> was reporting that the producer or someone like that has pretty much
> guaranteed that the trio will be played by different actors for the
> 5th movie and later.  When I went to the site to see the whole
> story what I found instead was an interview where Dan Radcliffe is
> predicting that Harry will die by the end of the series.  I have to go
> pick up the kiddos at their last day of school and don't have time to
> dig any deeper right now.  Sure hope that both things are wrong wrong
> wrong!!!
> 

Actually, if you go the Leaky Cauldron site, you can find a link about the 
first thing you mentioned. David Heyman was talking about 'aging stars', etc. 
It's pretty much what others have speculated on because the kids chose to sign 
for each film individually instead of signing for all 4 at once when it all 
started. Alfonso Cuaron immediately countered this Heyman interview by saying 
that the kids could easily do all the movies and actors play younger all the time 
(besides, they wouldn't be that much older than the characters anyway).
It's all really nothing - same stuff we have always been hearing.
As or Dan's interview, I think there is a link on Leaky to that as well. He 
was speculating, pure and simple, and I guess he has as much right as anyone to 
do that about Harry ;-) 
Of course, no one knows Harry's fate other than Rowling, so maybe we should 
just let her tell us in her own good time <g>
Cindy


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From saitaina at frontiernet.net  Fri May 28 08:48:17 2004
From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:48:17 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
References: <20040528084643.61735.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <031001c44490$85ed0920$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>

Linda wrote:

<I can't see any reason why they can't do
them all>

They may not WANT to do them all, despite how
old they get.  Many actors step away from
projects after several years.  there are
various reasons as to why, and mostly it's up
to the actors for their reasons but it's a
common thing after so many years.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."




From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Fri May 28 09:03:14 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Gaunt?=)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:03:14 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <031001c44490$85ed0920$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <20040528090314.60516.qmail@web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

You're quite right of course, I think They've been told to carry on as long as they're enjoying it was it by Chris Columbus? I'm not sure. My colleague at work mentioned James Bond when we had this discussion a while ago. And of course it's up to Dan & co how long they carry on. It would be nice to see them do all seven though........wishful thinking!

Saitaina <saitaina at frontiernet.net> wrote:Linda wrote:

<I can't see any reason why they can't do
them all>

They may not WANT to do them all, despite how
old they get.  Many actors step away from
projects after several years.  there are
various reasons as to why, and mostly it's up
to the actors for their reasons but it's a
common thing after so many years.

Saitaina
****
"Potter, if a sixteen year old has perfect
skin, that's a pretty good indication that
he's dabbling in the Dark Arts."

http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina

"No, one day I'm going to look back on all
this and plow face-first into a tree because
I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll
still be having a better day than I am
today."



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From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri May 28 09:26:41 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 05:26:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <031001c44490$85ed0920$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
References: <20040528084643.61735.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
    <031001c44490$85ed0920$01fea8c0@domain.invalid>
Message-ID: <1361.4.47.27.214.1085736401.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Saitaina said:

> They may not WANT to do them all, despite how
> old they get.  Many actors step away from

Blasphemy.  They must be chained to the Harry Potter movies and franchise
FOREVER (or-at-least-until-TPTB-fires-them). BWAHAHAHAHA! *cough*wheeze* 
I haven't had as much practice on my evil laugh, so getting a bit rusty.

Dina

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From patientx3 at aol.com  Fri May 28 09:59:16 2004
From: patientx3 at aol.com (HunterGreen)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:59:16 -0000
Subject: Spoilers and promos
In-Reply-To: <20040525151208.84277.qmail@web80312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c972hk+sni2@eGroups.com>

Gretchen wrote:
>>I think HP3 and Shrek 2 will probably be neck-and-neck
in terms of box office. I do think the appeal of
Shrek is just a bit broader, but HP3 will probably
have more people going back to see it three and four
and five times.<<

I was thinking that too, but just now I was looking through old polls 
on IMDB (internet movie database), and there was a question 
asking "What summer release are you most looking forward to?" and PoA 
was at the top with 20%; Shrek 2 was number four with only 6%. 
Although the first Shrek was popular (and sequels tend to make more 
than their predecessors), don't forget how *very* sucessful the first 
two Harry Potter movies were. I think there's a fair chance it'll 
make more than Shrek 2.
Today's poll, actually, is almost the exact question, only asking 
what *June* release people are looking forward to. Harry Potter is 
ahead by 6% (over Spiderman 2 no less). 

-Rebecca




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 28 16:33:36 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:33:36 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <1361.4.47.27.214.1085736401.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIECEGGCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dina Lerret [mailto:redina at silverbloom.net]
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:27 AM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!


  Saitaina said:

  > They may not WANT to do them all, despite how
  > old they get.  Many actors step away from

  Blasphemy.  They must be chained to the Harry Potter movies and franchise
  FOREVER (or-at-least-until-TPTB-fires-them). BWAHAHAHAHA! *cough*wheeze*
  I haven't had as much practice on my evil laugh, so getting a bit rusty.

  Dina >>

  LOL!  That was a good evil laugh, at least in email land.  :-)  I don't
think we are looking at this from the
  trio's point of view regarding if they can or cannot do all the movies,
but the POV of tptb at Warner Bros.
  If the trio is willing to do all the movies, then most of us don't see why
they can't do it. Their age should not
  be a question.  Of course, again, it also depends on how fast JKR gets the
last two books out.  I guess time
  will tell.

  Kimberly



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From twinslove at mindspring.com  Fri May 28 16:34:25 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:34:25 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <20040528084643.61735.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEGGCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Linda Gaunt [mailto:linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk]
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:47 AM
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!


  It seems to me that each time a new HP film comes out, there is this big
speculation about the trio doing all of them. I remember them saying when
COS was released that they were doing the third movie, and no decision had
been made about GOF. Now the same thing is happening again! I can't see any
reason why they can't do them all - loads of actors play parts younger than
their real age. John Travolta and Olivia Newton John in Grease, Michael J
Fox in Bak to the Future, even Christian Coulson was 26, playing teenage Tom
Riddle. I think Dan's already thinking about OOP - I read his review on the
book on his website's 100 FAQs and he talks about the SCENES between Prof
Umbridge and Harry, rather than the chapters. Or maybe that's just the actor
talking?  >>


  I totally agree.  I read that article about them being too old for all the
movies and how they are trying to keep
  up with their aging.  In the article they kept saying "well, Dan is
already two years old than PoA's Harry".  I
  wanted to write back to them and correct them that Dan was technically
only a year old than PoA's Harry
  when filming.  Who cares about a year older!  The trio is about to start
filming GoF, and he will be barely a
  year older than GoF's Harry. A lot of the "kids" on those teenage soap
operas are way older than their
  characters' ages.  Heck Toby McGuire played a teenage Peter Parker in
Spider-Man, and he was in this
  late 20's, I believe.  The only thing I do agree with is that the fact
that if JKR can write the last two books and
  get the movies produced while their still young enough to play the parts.
That is the only thing that worries me.
  I'd like to see all them finish the series out, because to me Dan, Emma,
and Rupert are Harry, Hermione, Ron,
  to me at least.

  Kimberly





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From gcrumpac at pacbell.net  Fri May 28 16:38:45 2004
From: gcrumpac at pacbell.net (Gretchen Crumpacker)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIECEGGCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <20040528163845.96540.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:

  LOL!  That was a good evil laugh, at least in email
land.  :-)  I don't
think we are looking at this from the
  trio's point of view regarding if they can or cannot
do all the movies,
but the POV of tptb at Warner Bros.
  If the trio is willing to do all the movies, then
most of us don't see why
they can't do it. Their age should not
  be a question.  Of course, again, it also depends on
how fast JKR gets the
last two books out.  I guess time
  will tell.

I think the fans would absolutely resist having anyone
other than Dan, Rupert and Emma playing those roles! 
That factor should absolutely outweigh any age
discrepancy.  And from a business sense, the trio
would be nuts not to see the franchise through --
heck, the first two movies have already made Dan the
second richest teenager in the U.K.  Show business is
rife with stories of people who walked away from
successful projects because they felt too limited in
the role, only to never have another success (Shelley
Long and David Caruso spring to mind).

Gretchen

=====
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From kathryn-jones at comcast.net  Fri May 28 12:56:44 2004
From: kathryn-jones at comcast.net (jmjklj)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:56:44 -0000
Subject: Rowling's Quote of "foreshadowing" in movie!
Message-ID: <c97cuc+najc@eGroups.com>

After seeing the article where Ms. Rowling states: ''I really got 
goose bumps when I saw a couple of those things, and I thought, 
people are going to look back on the film and think that those were 
put in deliberately as clues,'' I couldn't help start to wonder 
about some of the clips I've already seen!

There is one newer clip with Lupin and Harry and he talks about 
Lily...the dialogue is definitely not in the book, but makes me 
wonder about books 6 and 7!

I am already beside myself waiting for next Friday, and now this 
bombshell!  I'll have to go to see the movie a couple of times now, 
just to guess at the foreshadowing!

-Kathryn





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Fri May 28 18:42:28 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:42:28 -0000
Subject: Guardian Review
Message-ID: <c9816k+qa96@eGroups.com>

I just found this review in the Guardian where PoA gets a 3* rating. 
Interestingly, the reviewer seems to prefer the first two movies 
saying that his minded wandered more in this one.

I do agree with him, that future films will have to change the set a 
little as otherwise the magic might begin to pall. But, WB do seem 
to have recognised this, which is why the Dursleys aren't even in 
GoF.

I find it really interesting how different critics are rating the 
film. Whatever the Guardian says though, I now believe that I will 
be seeing a better film.

Heres the link:


http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_review/0
,4267,1225935,00.html

Ali




From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Fri May 28 20:35:30 2004
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:35:30 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: [HPforGrownups] Maggie Smith
Message-ID: <v01540b01bcdc15685f5b@[217.154.251.210]>

She was also excellent in 'A Room with a View' as the fussy cousin.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From lauren at atypically.net  Fri May 28 18:52:02 2004
From: lauren at atypically.net (lauren kent)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:52:02 -0400
Subject: See PoA early in NYC!
Message-ID: <1085770321.40b78a52000eb@atypically.net>

RowM.com, in association with Warner Brothers and The Witching Hour, is proud to
present its...

Private Fan Line Party and Advance Screening of Prisoner of Azkaban
Thursday, June 3 at 8pm (party starting at 5pm) in New York City!

The party will be held at a venue near the theatre and will feature games,
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anticipation of what is easily the best HP movie to date!

For more information, or to order tickets (there's still some left!), visit
http://www.hplineparty.com .

See you there!
Lauren

--
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go through the world unexplained.
[stephen crane]




From sbchavez2000 at yahoo.com  Fri May 28 22:24:58 2004
From: sbchavez2000 at yahoo.com (Stephanie Brooke Chavez)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:24:58 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <20040528163845.96540.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c98e7q+lus9@eGroups.com>


Gretchen:
> I think the fans would absolutely resist having anyone
> other than Dan, Rupert and Emma playing those roles! 
> That factor should absolutely outweigh any age
> discrepancy.  And from a business sense, the trio
> would be nuts not to see the franchise through --
> heck, the first two movies have already made Dan the
> second richest teenager in the U.K.  


According to today's Denver Post, Producer David Heyman admitted to 
the "Sun" in London that Radcliff and the other two actors "probably 
will not be in a fifth film".  Bummer!

"Stephanie Brooke Chavez" 




From redina at silverbloom.net  Fri May 28 23:45:36 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 19:45:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <c98e7q+lus9@eGroups.com>
References: <20040528163845.96540.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>
    <c98e7q+lus9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <2401.4.47.27.214.1085787936.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Stephanie Brooke Chavez said:

> According to today's Denver Post, Producer David Heyman admitted to
> the "Sun" in London that Radcliff and the other two actors "probably
> will not be in a fifth film".  Bummer!

The "Sun"?  Isn't that a tabloid type magazine?  Similar to "Star" in the US.

Dina


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From celticangel at thebuffysite.com  Sat May 29 00:42:48 2004
From: celticangel at thebuffysite.com (celticangel1976)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:42:48 -0000
Subject: Early POA Screening
Message-ID: <c98ma8+phjd@eGroups.com>

Ok, this has nothing to do with the recent discussions but I just 
had to tell someone.  I just got passes to an early screening of POA 
here in Dallas!! I get to see it on June 2nd at 7pm.  I'm so 
excited!!!!!!

CelticAngel




From silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net  Sat May 29 00:51:37 2004
From: silverthorne.dragon at verizon.net (Silverthorne)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 19:51:37 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Early POA Screening
References: <c98ma8+phjd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c44517$18f9b980$05030f04@dslverizon.net>



Ok, this has nothing to do with the recent discussions but I just
had to tell someone.  I just got passes to an early screening of POA
here in Dallas!! I get to see it on June 2nd at 7pm.  I'm so
excited!!!!!!

CelticAngel



Oh, so that was YOU who got to be caller-number-whatever and stole them away
from me?? *Sniffs sulkily then smiles* (teasing)

Seriously, have fun, and I'm glad you get to go!!! (Me, I'll wait for the
DVD disk with all the extra 'stuff' and watch it on my big screen TV :D)

Silverthorne/Anne





From vmonte at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 00:51:59 2004
From: vmonte at yahoo.com (vmonte)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:51:59 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <HDEHIGDAOEAOONMOCNIEGEGGCHAA.twinslove@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <c98mrf+h7tk@eGroups.com>

This is from the Denver Post:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PEOPLE_DANIEL_RADCLIFFE?
SITE=CODEN&SECTION=ENTERTAINMENT&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

(http://tinyurl.com/2gyvy)

"Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," now in production, may be the 
last time fans see Radcliffe in the role of Harry, which has brought 
him a fortune estimated at about $18 million. He has yet to commit to 
a fifth film.

"I'm not going to lie and say it will be absolutely easy to see 
someone else play the part because it will be extremely strange after 
four films," Radcliffe said. "But if it happens it will be something 
I will have to get used to. I'm not saying it will happen but it's a 
possibility."


vmonte responds:

I wouldn't worry too much about Emma, Rupert, and Daniel not being in 
all three films.  Actor's always use this type of tactic to get more 
money from movie companies.  It just shows what a shrewd business man 
Daniel is.  I think that if they had to Warner Bros. will pay Daniel 
whatever he wants to make sure he is in the rest of the films.

vmonte 







From sbchavez2000 at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 01:14:14 2004
From: sbchavez2000 at yahoo.com (Stephanie Brooke Chavez)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:14:14 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <2401.4.47.27.214.1085787936.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>
Message-ID: <c98o56+8fvv@eGroups.com>

Stephanie Brooke Chavez said:
> > According to today's Denver Post, Producer David Heyman admitted 
> > to the "Sun" in London that Radcliff and the other two actors 
> > "probably will not be in a fifth film".  Bummer!

Dina:
> The "Sun"?  Isn't that a tabloid type magazine?  Similar to "Star" 
> in the US.


I certainly hope so!  Maybe it's more "hype" to get the fans fired 
up!  If so, it's working.  I can't imagine those 3 not continuing on 
throughout the series!

"Stephanie Brooke Chavez" 




From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May 29 03:04:37 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:04:37 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Early POA Screening
References: <c98ma8+phjd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c44529$ae151750$6501a8c0@KIMBERLY>

Hey, great news!  Can I drive up from Houston to go with you?  LOL!  Have a GREAT time!

Kimberly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: celticangel1976 
  To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:42 PM
  Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Early POA Screening


  Ok, this has nothing to do with the recent discussions but I just 
  had to tell someone.  I just got passes to an early screening of POA 
  here in Dallas!! I get to see it on June 2nd at 7pm.  I'm so 
  excited!!!!!!

  CelticAngel



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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 29 04:10:37 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:10:37 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the blue eyed hunks
In-Reply-To: <c96t84+qfkc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BCDD857D.B88%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: "linda_gaunt" <linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk>

Nice to know I'm not the only one over a certain age who thinks
Dan's quite a hunk! My daughter, jokingly, says she'll be in therapy
when she's my age!! She's more into Elijah Wood, another one with
gorgeous blue eyes. I'd happily let her marry either of them. I
thought it was funny, when I read a recent quote about Elijah being
on the POA set, saying people sometimes think he's Harry Potter, and
       Dan said people mistake him for Frodo!

Funny! I didn't know that there was any "connection" between Elijah and Dan.
In fact I was just watching my new copy of "Return of the King" today, and
"fell in love" with ole blue eyes all over again, LOL! Something about dark
hair and piercing blue eyes; gets me every time. :-)

bewitchedbyHP 


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat May 29 04:16:45 2004
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:16:45 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan to do OOP?
In-Reply-To: <20040528084643.61735.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BCDD86EC.B89%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

From: Linda Gaunt <linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk>

I think Dan's already thinking about OOP - I read his review on the book on
his website's 100 FAQs and he talks about the SCENES between Prof Umbridge
and Harry, rather than the chapters. Or maybe that's just the actor talking?

From: bewitchedbyHP

I'm not going to be able to watch them if they change any of the major
characters! I mean, I HAD to accept the Dumbledore switch; but Dan has
personified Harry; brought him to life. I don't think they should even try
to do any more films without the trio. Never flies when they do that.
Besides, I can't wait to see who they cast for the evil Umbridge, and if
Warner Bros. will "soften" her torture of Harry to keep it PG. I personally
wanted to reach in that book and wring her neck! She got off way too easy if
you ask me!



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From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Sat May 29 06:29:12 2004
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 06:29:12 -0000
Subject: Dan to do OOP?
In-Reply-To: <BCDD86EC.B89%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <c99ajo+fbgg@eGroups.com>

I cannot imagine what these films would be like without the trio. I 
know all three kids are enjoying being in the films and would gladly 
do all 7. In fact, Dan has said he wants to stay in the film industry 
even after the 7th film is in the can (so that was a hint to me that 
he wants to do all 7), Emma said she would only give it up to act 
opposite of Brad Pitt and Rupert said he guesses he will give up his 
childhood dream to be an ice cream man. So it seems they do WANT to 
but they are playing it by ear. WB and the producers would be mad to 
replace them as I think many fans would rebel. I know a few myself 
who just wouldn't go. I had qualms about seeing Michael Gambon as 
Dumbledore and that could not be helped since Richard passed away. I 
think he did a wonderful job but I missed that certain twinkle of 
mischief Richard had in his eye. I just wish we knew why David Heyman 
made the comment everyone is quoting and if he actual said it that 
way. I have heard he loves the three kids as if they were his own so 
it would seem odd to say that. I have had a funny feeling about Tom 
Felton continuing. He states on his website that he plans to go to 
college in 2005 and that he put it off to do GOF but he really wants 
to go to college. Maybe they could work around his school schedule or 
something but he might not WANT to do them after GOF. Would be a 
shame as he makes an excellent Draco. 

I hope it is just rumors and speculation. It would be sad to replace 
them because of age. As everyone has stated people are always playing 
characters younger than themselves and older too (look at Lea 
Thompson in the Back to the Future - she play a 17 year old and 40ish 
year old in the same movie!). And look at Moaning Myrtle - shes 35 
playing a 17 year old.

Anyway, I have rambled long enough. I will just hold on that it is 
just rumors and if it is not then the producers will get a nastygram 
from me. ;o)

Theresa




From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 07:54:11 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 07:54:11 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <c95f7h+go0s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c99fj3+n9ao@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "leb2323" <lbiles at f...> wrote:
> I saw a little blurb in the Dallas Morning News today that ananova.com 
> was reporting that the producer or someone like that has pretty much 
> guaranteed that the trio will be played by different actors for the 
> 5th movie and later.  When I went to the site to see the whole 
> story what I found instead was an interview where Dan Radcliffe is 
> predicting that Harry will die by the end of the series.  I have to go 
> pick up the kiddos at their last day of school and don't have time to 
> dig any deeper right now.  Sure hope that both things are wrong wrong 
> wrong!!!
> 
> leb

bboy_mn:

I think if you take the time to search the Internet and find the
entire interview, you will discover the the sensationalistic overblown
negative headlines don't match what was actually said. The problem
here is that no one ever bought a newspaper or magazine because the
headline said,...

"NO WORRIES. EVERYTHING'S OK". 

There is an old saying in the news business, 'If it bleeds, it leads'.
So they can't make much of a story out of Heyman's statements if they
report that everything is OK. So, they manufacture controversy in the
headlines.

What Heyman said is that at some point the kids will leave the series,
although, whether that is now, after book 5, book 6, or book 7 he
didn't know. But certainly each person, individually, will want to
move on to other things at some point.

Chris Columbus advised all the kids in the beginning to do two or
three then just walk away; no matter how good the money is, just walk
away. Walk away before the industry, the media hype, the transient
fame, and the money corrupt them. Having said that, he then did a
commendable job of making sure the kids were not corrupted by the
process. He, and a lot of other people appear to be doing an
outstanding job of taking care of these kids.

I also think Dan and the other actors are very very wise to take it
one movie at a time. Chris advised them all to leave as soon as it
stopped being fun. With 'one at a time' movie contracts the kids keep
the power, they can walk whenever they want without any legal
complications. 

They also have some negotiating power now. For the second movie, the
sceen actor's guild (union or whatever they call it in England)
stepped in and forced Warner Brothers to increase Dan's salary to
something consistent with a movie of this caliber. I think the Union
stepped in because Dan was under a pre-existing contract and therefore
couldn't negotiate for himself. The Union's action essentially
nullified that contract. Since then, it's been one movie at a time.

I think for the third and fourth movies Dan's agent probably realize
he has some power and negotiated substantial, but reasonable and fair,
salaries. According to  a couple different source, Dan in now one of
the richest teens in the UK (top 10). 

For reference, Frank Muniz (Malcom in the Middle) got about 2 million
for the Cody Banks movie and they each grossed about 400 million.
That's a far cry from the +800 million you can expect from a Harry
Potter movie.

According to a couple of Dan's interviews, he doesn't know or care how
much money he has. He's left that up to his parents who, by the way,
still provide him with his pocket money. He's having fun now, and
later when he is ready for his adult life, the money wil be their to
help him on his way.

I think Dan has set the precedent for the other kids, allowing them to
also negotiate new salary deals for each movie. I'm sure WB hates
that, they would love to lock them into a salary and a long term
contract so the Studio could keep making money. 

I know Tom Felton has already tried to get out of the movie franchise,
but I'm guessing they offered him so much money he simply couldn't
refuse. But he has wanted to go to college for a long time and study
fishery management, and his long term goal is to be a professional
fisherman. 

I hope this offer of 'too much money to refuse' continues, because I
agree with others, he makes a great Draco. 

I think all of the kids are playing the game very wisely, and I leave
the decision up to them. What every they think is best for themselves
will have my full suport.

I do suspect that if primary characters leave the franchise,
production will shut down for a couple of year while they regroup, and
at the same time, give the world time to forget about the current crop
of actors.

I also suspect that a year or two shutdown is inevitable, because the
books aren't coming fast enough. If that delay occurs, the studio may
decide on their own that it's a good time to get a new and cheaper
crop of actors. In addition, I suspect if this happens, the standard
of the movie will deteriorate. The result will be a high homogenous
Disney-fied, American-ized version of the books that will not achieve
the levels of acclaim or revenue that the current movies have.

Just one man's opinion.

bboy_mn





From twinslove at mindspring.com  Sat May 29 15:01:10 2004
From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 10:01:10 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the blue eyed hunks
References: <BCDD857D.B88%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000901c4458d$c74f8840$6401a8c0@KIMBERLY>


  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Funny! I didn't know that there was any "connection" between Elijah and Dan.
  In fact I was just watching my new copy of "Return of the King" today, and
  "fell in love" with ole blue eyes all over again, LOL! Something about dark
  hair and piercing blue eyes; gets me every time. :-)

  bewitchedbyHP>>


  Valerie, that is how my daughter is... she has dark hair and piercing blue eyes.  People are always commenting
  on her blue eyes and how gorgeous they are.  That is why I keep saying Dan reminds me so much of her as they
  share the same "beauty" features.  Of course my daughter is 5 years old and way too young for Dan. LOL!  I do
  have a 14 year old sister that would perfect for Dan and she loves HP.  You know, I just got my new copy of
  ROTK Friday, but haven't watched it yet.  I did see it in the movie theater though.  I can't compare Elijah and Dan
  though.  I just never thought of Elijah as "good looking".  I think he is a good actor though, but Frodo just didn't
  make me go "wow, he's cute" even out of costume.  

  BTW, I guess with the premiere already passed here in the US and the movie starting in theaters Friday, we have
  seen a increase in trailers.  In the past hour, I have seen three different trailers.  Also, thought I'd let everyone
  know that Dan will be on Regis and Kelly on Monday morning.

  Kimberly

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From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk  Sat May 29 20:18:18 2004
From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:18:18 +0100
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] For the Brits on the list
Message-ID: <v01540b00bcde9ffc54de@[217.154.252.208]>

Tomorrow's 'Sunday Times' has one of the PoA trailers on its preview DVD
'The Month'.

Cheers,
Nicholas





From saintbacchus at yahoo.com  Sat May 29 20:57:07 2004
From: saintbacchus at yahoo.com (saintbacchus)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 20:57:07 -0000
Subject: Female dogs in PoA and other innocent words WAS Re: Spoilers - my POA review
In-Reply-To: <c931t4+afdb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9atf3+10jgh@eGroups.com>

Hagridd writes:

<<
Sophia, you are entirely correct that Aunt Marge is being very  
insulting and is implying poor breeding to Lily and Harry.  My point 
is that the word "bitch" is not used as a curseword, but only to the 
extent that it means to cheapen the Potter-Evans bloodline.  She  
might just as easily said "dam" and "colt", but Aunt Marge is a dog  
breeder, not a horse breeder.
>>

Now see, I thought Aunt Marge intended the double entendre. She's a 
respectable, pillar-of-the-community type, and has to adhere to some 
degree of genteel behavior (like how Vernon always says "ruddy" 
instead of "bloody") to keep that reputation. Since she is a dog 
breeder, though, she can use the lingo as a cover for what she 
really means - an insult too crude for a suburbanite to utter.

--Anna




From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 29 21:37:15 2004
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:37:15 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <20040528163845.96540.qmail@web80303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c9avqb+qi2o@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Gretchen Crumpacker 
<gcrumpac at p...> wrote:
> 
> --- Kimberly Roth <twinslove at m...> wrote:
 I don't think we are looking at this from the
>   trio's point of view regarding if they can or cannot
> do all the movies,
> but the POV of tptb at Warner Bros.
>   If the trio is willing to do all the movies, then
> most of us don't see why
> they can't do it. Their age should not
>   be a question.  Of course, again, it also depends on
> how fast JKR gets the
> last two books out.  I guess time
>   will tell.

imamommy:
I think if members of the cast leave because of personal reasons, 
the majority of their fans would support them, but if WB drops them 
for less expensive options, they will rue the day that news breaks.  

I also don't see a problem with the books coming out on time, or the 
ages of the actors.  Dan Radcliffe is 14 now, and they are starting 
GoF.  Harry in that book is 14.  They already have Book 5.  They 
should be able to start principle photography when DR is about 15.  
By the time they wrap that movie, Book 6 had better be out or us 
book fans will go nuts.  The only one I see a potential holdup on is 
Book 7 (I think we may have a longer wait than for 6, because I 
think it will be hard for JKR to publish and have done with).  

I think most of us would have an easier time accepting 
Older!Dan/Rupert/Emma than new actors.

imamommy






From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 30 10:59:53 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (linda_gaunt)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:59:53 -0000
Subject: Dan - wishful thinking?
Message-ID: <c9cer9+oa51@eGroups.com>

Just a thought here for the pscho-analysts out there. Do you think 
that Dan may actually WANT Harry to die, deep down? I think I read, 
somewhere, maybe in one of the papers, which actually doubts it's 
accuracy, I guess, that Dan couldn't imagine anyone else as Harry. 
It could be said that he is contemplating the possibility of doing 
all seven movies. If JKR kills off our hero, then Dan will finish 
with Harry definitely, without that possibilty of any more HP books 
and subsequent films. Am I making any sense here? 




From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 30 11:14:31 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?Linda=20Gaunt?=)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 12:14:31 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the blue eyed hunks
In-Reply-To: <000901c4458d$c74f8840$6401a8c0@KIMBERLY>
Message-ID: <20040530111431.10530.qmail@web25102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

I have to disagree - Elijah is quite cute too. You should see some of the pictures my daughter has got of him. In fact her bedroom is covered with him, and a few of Dan, of course. Apart from the fact that they, apparently, get mistaken for each other, there is another connection - Jamie Lee Curtis. She has been quoted as saying that she has been mum to both Frodo and Harry Potter. She was Elijah's mum in Forever Young and Dan's in Tailor of Panama. Today's piece of useless info folks! I should be cleaning the house and getting lunch, but my daughter's still asleep and my son's at work, so I've got a good opportunity to use the computer.

Kimberly Roth <twinslove at mindspring.com> wrote:
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Funny! I didn't know that there was any "connection" between Elijah and Dan.
  In fact I was just watching my new copy of "Return of the King" today, and
  "fell in love" with ole blue eyes all over again, LOL! Something about dark
  hair and piercing blue eyes; gets me every time. :-)

  bewitchedbyHP>>


  Valerie, that is how my daughter is... she has dark hair and piercing blue eyes.  People are always commenting
  on her blue eyes and how gorgeous they are.  That is why I keep saying Dan reminds me so much of her as they
  share the same "beauty" features.  Of course my daughter is 5 years old and way too young for Dan. LOL!  I do
  have a 14 year old sister that would perfect for Dan and she loves HP.  You know, I just got my new copy of
  ROTK Friday, but haven't watched it yet.  I did see it in the movie theater though.  I can't compare Elijah and Dan
  though.  I just never thought of Elijah as "good looking".  I think he is a good actor though, but Frodo just didn't
  make me go "wow, he's cute" even out of costume.  

  BTW, I guess with the premiere already passed here in the US and the movie starting in theaters Friday, we have
  seen a increase in trailers.  In the past hour, I have seen three different trailers.  Also, thought I'd let everyone
  know that Dan will be on Regis and Kelly on Monday morning.

  Kimberly

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From flitwicksman at yahoo.com  Sun May 30 15:00:20 2004
From: flitwicksman at yahoo.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:00:20 -0000
Subject: See PoA early in NYC!
In-Reply-To: <1085770321.40b78a52000eb@atypically.net>
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  Must be nice.

  I'm in Tulsa, OK. and we're not even getting a midnight showing on 
Thursday night.  

  Bummer!

  Brian:-)


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From cristina_angelo at yahoo.com  Sun May 30 16:14:08 2004
From: cristina_angelo at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Cristina_Rebelo_=C2ngelo?=)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:14:08 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan - wishful thinking?
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Linda said: 
> 
> Just a thought here for the pscho-analysts out there. Do you think 
> that Dan may actually WANT Harry to die, deep down? I think I read, 
> somewhere, maybe in one of the papers, which actually doubts it's 
> accuracy, I guess, that Dan couldn't imagine anyone else as Harry. 
> It could be said that he is contemplating the possibility of doing 
> all seven movies. If JKR kills off our hero, then Dan will finish 
> with Harry definitely, without that possibilty of any more HP books 
> and subsequent films. Am I making any sense here? 
> 

Cristina:

Not psycho-analyst, but. Have been giving it some thought. He's still young
(one of the first things that crossed my mind is that he's still mourning
Santa Claus, but I was in shock at his boldness - and at how people are
giving this importance). The world is going crazy for him (and will get
crazier now with PoA). Apart from the fact this film is dark, and that he
knows the story will be getting darker, my two knuts are on him wishing
Harry dies, so that when, in the future, people go "OH! Harry!" he can say
"He's dead". And move on.

The end.

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From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Sun May 30 18:58:24 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:58:24 -0000
Subject: Dan - wishful thinking?
In-Reply-To: <c9cer9+oa51@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9dasg+rq1s@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "linda_gaunt" <linda_gaunt at y...>
wrote:
> Just a thought here for the pscho-analysts out there. Do you think 
> that Dan may actually WANT Harry to die, deep down? .... If JKR 
> kills off our hero, then Dan will finish with Harry definitely, 
> without that possibilty of any more HP books and subsequent films. 
> Am I making any sense here?


bboy_mn:

For Dan R. it would be pretty hard to say that there wasn't some
subliminal element of 'wishful thinking'. If Harry is alive in the end
there is always a chance that somebody will want to extend the
franchise with new stories not specifically written by Rowling but
simply based on her characters; sort of a Hollywood version of fan
fiction. That leaves things open ended for Dan; always a chance he'll
be called back to revisit his role.

But I think it is more likely that Dan reach a conclusion that many
many many other people have reached. In the main group, and in
virtually every HP discussion group many variations of 'Harry dies'
have been proposed. I've even speculated on several possible
situations myself. So this is not a new idea, many many fan besides
Dan have considered it.

I've also pointed out before that a 'tragedy' is a prefectly valid and
very common framework for stories, plays, and movies. It's not very
common or popular in the USA, but in other world cultures, it is
popular and common. There is the classic Greek Tragedy. Chinese and
Mexican audiences are know to love a good tragedy, or a sad or
ambiguous ending. 

As an example, "Y Tu Mam? Tambi?n", the recent movie by Alfanso
Cuaron, had a somewhat melancholy ending.

Just recently, many people speculated that we may have a very
bittersweet ending. Harry may live, but the price that he has to pay
to win will be horribly and tragically high. Not quite a tragedy, but
very close.

I've speculated that Harry will die, but only temporarily (long story).

So there is some precedence for heroes dying in the end, and Dan's
idea in not new, unique, or original. If you dare search through the
backlog of post in the main HP_for_Grownups group, you will find many
many discussion on it. 

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn





From linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk  Sun May 30 19:12:28 2004
From: linda_gaunt at yahoo.co.uk (linda_gaunt)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 19:12:28 -0000
Subject: new group
Message-ID: <c9dbms+94oj@eGroups.com>

following coments for blue eyed hunks my daughter has started a new 
group dedicated to dan and elijah in the actors and actresses 
category you can find it at 
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/blueeyedhunks





From clshannon at aol.com  Sun May 30 20:34:51 2004
From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 16:34:51 EDT
Subject: POA news stories,etc.
Message-ID: <8.4e6bed1c.2deb9f6b@aol.com>

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I am feeling a bit overloaded on 
the publicity for the premiere of POA! Goodness.
Anyway, the London premiere is today and already the pictures are 
circulating. Go to The Leaky Cauldron and danradcliffe.com for links.
But I found a few cute tidbits in new articles today as well.
At the London premiere, J.K. Rowling was there and someone told her what Dan 
said about Harry perhaps dying in Book 7. Her response was, 'Daniel said that? 
I'll be having a word with him.' <g>

Also, in an article in the Boston Herald, it mentions that Dan passed out 
while filming the scene with Gary (Sirius) at the lake with the dementors. Dan 
said, 'I have this thing where I forget to breathe properly'. Hmm ;-) 
A few weeks ago, in the new Premiere Mag, Alfonso had mentioned that Dan was 
concentrating to hard on one scene that he 'almost fainted'. I guess he really 
did faint ;-) As I mentioned on the Leaky comment boards, poor Gary, he must 
have thought he did something to the kid ;-)
Here's the link to the Boston Herald article if anyone wants to read it.
http://theedge.bostonherald.com/movieNews/view.bg?articleid=29869

The premiere pictures from London are really nice. Everyone looks good.
The staff at Leaky are there, so tune in to that page for reports in the next 
few days. ;-)

Also, as for TV appearances, danradcliffe.com added one that I don't think 
anyone has mentioned. 
Wednesday, June 2nd - US - On Air with Ryan Seacrest has listed 'cast of 
POA'. I don't know who is showing up, but it will probably be the three leads. The 
show is syndicated, so check local times and channels.

Cindy


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From shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 03:49:04 2004
From: shrtbusryder2002 at yahoo.com (Jason)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 03:49:04 -0000
Subject: bad news I hope is wrong!
In-Reply-To: <c9avqb+qi2o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9e9vg+v97o@eGroups.com>


> 
> imamommy:

> 
> I also don't see a problem with the books coming out on time, or 
the 
> ages of the actors.  Dan Radcliffe is 14 now, and they are 
starting 
> GoF.  Harry in that book is 14.  They already have Book 5.  They 
> should be able to start principle photography when DR is about 
15.  
> By the time they wrap that movie, Book 6 had better be out or us 
> book fans will go nuts.  The only one I see a potential holdup on 
is 
> Book 7 (I think we may have a longer wait than for 6, because I 
> think it will be hard for JKR to publish and have done with).  
> 
> I think most of us would have an easier time accepting 
> Older!Dan/Rupert/Emma than new actors.
> 
> imamommy


Jason:
   I really don't see a problem with the kids being older in book 6 
and 7. If they film 4 as they are doing, the kids are 14-15. If they 
go straight to 5 they'll be 15-16. Book 6 should be out by Next 
Summer hopefully, but lets say Summer '06. They should be about 17 
when they start filming, right? 17 playing 16. Now say we have to 
wait 3 years for book 7 after book 6. That puts us Somewhere in 2009 
(OMG!! THATS SOOO FAR!!!). They'll be 19 or 20 when they start. Not 
a huge stretch to play a 17 year old. Especially when you consider 
James Van Der Beek was practically drawing Social Security and 
playing a Teen in Dawsons Creek! lol. Actually i think he was early 
20's. I know I'm 23 and could pass for 18 with a close shave. :-) I 
say bring on Dan, Rupert and Emma until someone gets married, has a 
kid, or turns 30!

Jason, who apologizes if that math is wrong.. but its close enough 
to get the point across.... i think? I dont know their birthdays




From saintbacchus at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 04:58:54 2004
From: saintbacchus at yahoo.com (saintbacchus)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 04:58:54 -0000
Subject: Dan - wishful thinking?
In-Reply-To: <c9cer9+oa51@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9ee2e+ctl9@eGroups.com>

There's a slight flaw in your reasoning: just because Harry's dead 
doesn't mean there will never be any more filmed versions of Harry 
Potter. Although it is somewhat rare, movies have been remade. 
Stephen King, for instance, has an annoying habit of remaking his 
successful film adaptations as miniseries. Even Psycho was remade, 
and that's a bona fide classic. I figure, if Hitchcock can be 
remade, then Chris Columbus sure can.

I think Dan just likes the idea of Harry dying in the end. Actors do 
tend to have a flair for the dramatic, no? ^_^

--Anna




From SnapesRaven at web.de  Mon May 31 12:00:50 2004
From: SnapesRaven at web.de (SnapesRaven)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:00:50 +0200
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan - wishful thinking?
References: <c9ee2e+ctl9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <002301c44706$eacbb0d0$0202a8c0@henrike>


  saintbacchus wrote:

  >snip<
  just because Harry's dead 
  doesn't mean there will never be any more filmed versions of Harry 
  Potter. 
  <snip>
  I figure, if Hitchcock can be 
  remade, then Chris Columbus sure can.

  I think Dan just likes the idea of Harry dying in the end. Actors do 
  tend to have a flair for the dramatic, no? ^_^

  --Anna



  Now SnapesRaven *wanting to add a few knuts herself*:

  I think the remaking of Harry Potter might be quite difficult since the fans won't swallow everything thrown their way if they are mad about this version. But yes, I think it can really be remade.
  But referring the Mr Pot... ahem, Radcliffe *g*, I think there's another (although improbable) option: maybe he's got more knowledge about Harry's future fate and foretells the (wrong) outcome of the series? I don't think it is like that but it's still a possibility. 
  And regarding actors' faible for drama... I think this is not beyond daniel either. 
  ; )

  *last knut falls to the floor, clattering for a few seconds until ceasing movement*
  SnapesRaven



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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 31 12:21:03 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:21:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan - wishful thinking?
In-Reply-To: <c9dasg+rq1s@eGroups.com>
References: <c9cer9+oa51@eGroups.com> <c9dasg+rq1s@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <2456.4.47.27.224.1086006063.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

Steve said:

> I've also pointed out before that a 'tragedy' is a prefectly valid and
> very common framework for stories, plays, and movies. It's not very
> common or popular in the USA, but in other world cultures, it is
> popular and common. There is the classic Greek Tragedy. Chinese and
> Mexican audiences are know to love a good tragedy, or a sad or
> ambiguous ending.

And it wouldn't be the first time JKR has tapped into Greco-Roman
storytelling (i.e. mythology).

Dina

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From redina at silverbloom.net  Mon May 31 12:33:16 2004
From: redina at silverbloom.net (Dina Lerret)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:33:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: And Hot Tickets Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Dan - wishful thinking?
In-Reply-To: <c9ee2e+ctl9@eGroups.com>
References: <c9cer9+oa51@eGroups.com> <c9ee2e+ctl9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <2461.4.47.27.224.1086006796.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net>

saintbacchus said:

> successful film adaptations as miniseries. Even Psycho was remade,

Aye, and I have a copy of the remade Psycho... because of the buns of
Gondor.  More nekkid Viggo!  Other than that, I think the world could've
passed on this remake.  Similar to Hot Ticket ratings: I give this a NOT.

Going on to Hot Tickets, the show aired late Sunday/early Monday morning
here.  I caught it and the hosts both gave HP3 a 'HOT' and commented on
how this movie is, by far, better than the previous two movies. 
Personally, I enjoy the first two movies.  They're very 'light' on the
noggin' and I enjoy having them on as 'background movies' while I'm typing
on the computer.

Although, one host commented on being disappointed there wasn't more of a
definitive climax while the other host commented on how the books have
multiple high points.  Then there was a comment on Daniel Radcliffe's
acting improving but that he wouldn't be a great actor.  Hm, maybe a tad
bit too early to pass judgment on if DR can improve with experience.

Dina

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From Ali at zymurgy.org  Mon May 31 14:36:28 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:36:28 -0000
Subject: PoA *spoliers*
Message-ID: <c9fftc+rp8o@eGroups.com>

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Hermione Granger and the Prisoner of Azkaban

I'm not sure that there are really any spoilers in here, but just in 
case...

I went to see PoA this morning, and was so excited that I had to go 
to the loo about 3 times in the 15 minutes before it started. I'd 
booked for the 11 o'clock performance which was the earliest they 
had advertised on the internet. In fact, there were 2 earlier 
performances at 9 and 10am. It was slightly unpleasant to be warned 
that there might be night time cameras on us - so scared are they 
that people might make pirate recordings.

Anyway, the cinema was packed, and I had a good chat with another 
Mum while we were waiting for the film to start. We were talking 
about how exciting this was for the kids, how HP meant so much to 
them etc etc. I could agree with all of this, and sneak a peak at 
the PoA premiere pictures in her Daily Telegraph, without actually 
saying that I was probably far worse than most of the kids in the 
audience. At 11 in the morning, it was mostly kids and families.

I really do believe that PoA is the best film so far. The trio have 
all improved markedly in their acting. There are lots of very good, 
fun bits, it is funnier, and it is darker. But, I suppose I just 
expected too much. I didn't like the Quidditch scene. I disliked 
their new Quidditch robes, and the match itself was a dark spectacle 
rather than a game played in appalling weather. 

At one stage, I was just relaxing into the film, thinking that I 
could sit and watch it all day, but I came out feeling deeply 
dissatisfied. Some of the additional uncanon scenes are good - most 
notably between Harry and Lupin. Whether or not these really are the 
bits which gave JKR goose bumps, I suppose we'll find out in due 
course. I found I quite liked the bickering/ semi-romance of Ron and 
Hermione: it was funny, and it did fit. I'm not really a shipper, 
but I have a great need for Harry, the hero to pull through and live 
happily ever after. Selfishly, I've always thought that this should 
be with Hermione. But if JKR is going for the "obvious", the obvious 
is Hermione and Ron.

Gary Oldman reminded me of Captain Sparrow: I didn't expect that at 
all. I was even more surprised when my husband said the same thing. 
Oldman was really good though. I also really liked David Thewlis as 
Lupin, although why Lupin needed to appear slightly sloshed, I don't 
know.

But, my biggest problem with the film was (IMO) the enhanced role of 
Hermione. She seemed to take the lead in so many things. In the 
book, Hermione becomes a bit of a wreck, in the film, she takes the 
lead in a lot of the actions. 

I did wonder what was happening when Emma Watson said that PoA is 
rock and roll for Hermione - girl power. That is how I saw the film, 
but not how I wanted to see it. I decided that Cuaron must have 
fancied Emma Watson, and therefore gave her better scenes etc. My 
husband decided it was because she was the strongest actor. She was 
good, and perhaps she is the strongest actor. I don't know. I still 
want to think that Daniel Radcliffe is capable of growing into a 
really strong actor. He has the look of pathos in his eyes 
brilliantly; he can look cheeky and happy: brilliantly. I enjoy his 
defiance. But somehow, there are just too many scenes of him looking 
blank. I believe that this is because Harry witholds his emotions, 
but perhaps I'm making excuses to make me feel better!

I am going to see PoA again on Saturday, and I actually think I need 
to. In a way, this film was like OoP was for me the first time: I 
had too high expectations of it to enjoy it. Perfection it ain't, 
enjoyable it will be. Just as OoP has improved on each rereading, so 
I'm hoping to enjoy the PoA film more.

Ali






From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 31 16:04:00 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:04:00 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] spoilers and promos
Message-ID: <aa.2cb8e7ee.2decb170@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/26/2004 12:10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes:
I did read an article/review last night where the journalist who has
  seen both Shrek 2 and HP, said HP was by far the better movie and he highly 
recommended it.  I thought
  Shrek 2 was cute, a little cheeky though, and Puss N Boots stole the movie 
(he was great), but I thought
  the first Shrek was best. 

I've been away on a business trip, so I'm playing catch-up here with posts.  
I went to see Shrek 2 on purpose to see the HP trailer and they DID NOT SHOW 
IT!  I've been to three different films where other folks said they saw the HP 
trailer and not seen it.  I DO have my HP PoA tickets IN MY WALLET and will 
see it on June 4th!  Without ever having seen the trailer in the theater. . 
.*snurf!*  Shrek 2 was fun, though.  The theater was a small one and didn't have a 
lot of people in it for being Saturday night at 7:15 PM -- I thought it would 
be full of kids.  I can't imagine the theaters not being CRAMMED FULL of 
people for the HP movies!  Oh, and when I called the theater to find out the show 
times, the automated voice said "Be sure to order your Harry Potter tickets 
now!" and I thought, "I'll see that trailer THIS time for SURE!"  :-P~~~  I'm 
wondering if WB thinks they have enough coverage with the movie and intercut 
interviews on ABC and all the interviews Dan has done in the last week -- which 
were great! -- mean they don't have to pay for previews being in theaters as 
much as they might usually have to.  Ah well, we're in the single digits of 
waiting for the movie now!!

Lynda 
* * *
". . .the cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon May 31 16:22:26 2004
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:22:26 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Spoilers -- my PoA review
Message-ID: <a8.2cbd2715.2decb5c2@aol.com>

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>> There is a line that shocked me, they put this line in the 
film. Marge states the breeding problem (referring to Harry) comes 
from the mother comparing it to dogs. I think it was something 
like "if there is something wrong with the b*#%h then there is 
something wrong with the pup" <<

I've been away on a business trip and am playing catch-up here -- dunno if 
someone else has addressed this topic or not, but I thought I'd "have a go" at 
it, heehee.

In dog breeding, that word is not a "bad" word, it's a technical term.  It's 
the official, proper way to speak of a female dog -- a female is the b***h and 
the male is the "dog," just as in horses the female is the mare, the male the 
stallion, and the farm where the stallion lives and breeding occurs is the 
"stud farm" (My mother never let me say "stud" when I was a kid -- but it is the 
proper use of the word).  So somebody who understood that term would be 
appropriate to Marge's life left the line in because that's the "correct" use of 
the word.  We bred horses for years, and the terminology used would make a 
non-horseman's hair curl.  When I became friends with a dog breeder, her repeated 
use of "b***c" bothered me at first, then I realized how much horse-breeding 
terminolgy I'm comfortable with and I got over my discomfort around dog 
breeding's technical terms.


Lynda 
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From june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon May 31 17:25:20 2004
From: june.diamanti at blueyonder.co.uk (junediamanti)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 17:25:20 -0000
Subject: POA - Movie Review - Does Contain Spoilers
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What follows is a fairly extensive review that gives a good deal 
away.  Naturally the plot is already well known, but for those who 
want the film to be a complete surprise, avert thine tender eyes...

You have been warned.


Movie finished about 2 hours ago, now post lunch and after allowing
my impressions to have settled down somewhat, here they are.

In the spirit of fairness lets say what I like about the movie
first, then what I dislike.

Then after that, my spirit of total prejudice will kick in and I
will be more specific.

I went in with a carefully cultivated "positive mindset" I was
determined not to let merciless nitpicking critic take over.

Liked:

Generally this movie is a big improvement on the first two. It is
more atmospheric, seems closer in spirit to the books and is less
slavish to the scene by scene adaptation.

It is more richly textured. I loved both the indoor and outdoor
sets - I feel Cuaron has come close to a scenery depiction of JKR's
Potterverse. Obviously some of the settings are the same as the
previous two movies, yet by dint of good lighting, I feel more in
the world I imagine than before. Especially good were the
Hogwarts' extriors, the grounds, Hagrid's hut, the outbuildings,
the landscape around Hogwarts too.

He has managed to get a particular, almost "period" feel to the
whole thing, which not everyone might like, but I liked enormously -
there was an almost late 1940's - early 1950's feel that seemed to
work. A less bright colour to everything which gave it a timeless
look.

The Hogwarts' interiors were better too - possibly again, this was
down to more skilled lighting, but I got more a sense of the life of
the castle/school than before. He seems to to have created better
depth.

The film is much more pacey than its predecessors. Certainly the
first half hour was a beautiful precis of the early action of the
book - without me ever feeling I was losing anything. The scene
with Aunt Marge was an amusing comic set piece - slightly different
from the book, but not to its detriment.

Then we got the first thing, for me, that I think was excellent -
the Knight Bus. Again, not exactly as I imagined it inside, but
witty and a clever setting - the exterior of the Knight Bus was
exactly as in the book - imagine a very shabby over-tall London bus
from the 1950's painted bright (but rather dirty looking) purple,
and you have it. Stan Shunpike was spot on in my opinion. Exactly
as I did his voice when reading the book aloud - and identical to my
mind's eye vision of him. The "shrunken head" that folk were so
worried about is actually acting as comic relief/commentary (in a
wonderful West Indian accent) and I found it fun. The sfx of the
bus travelling round London and dodging the traffic were good and
the views of London excellent, and as far as I could tell,
geograpically sound (though this journey seemed to go direct from
Surrey to London- there were no visits to Wales, for instance).

The Leaky Cauldron was different from Movie 1 and better - more
atmospheric, busier.

Tom was odd - like Igor in Frankenstein movies, not how I imagined
him at all - and not sure I liked that.

The Hogwarts Express was much older looking - again I got a very
forties feel about it. Then we saw Lupin. On this see below.

The kids act better (high time too - though I still don't think they 
are as good as they could be - I should say that any faults in their 
performances are I suspect down to the way they are being 
directed).  Harry's hair looks right, finally. Ron is still being 
depicted as a berk and is mugging at the camera too much, but he is 
better than COS.  I agree that Hermione was way overemphasised.

The Dementors made their appearance on the train and this was very 
good. Not as scary as the Nazgul in LOTR - but that was always going 
to be a tough act to follow. They were even more terrifying as the 
movie progressed. They seemed to fly, though, and I never really got 
that from the book.

The whole movie was a lot pacier (as I already said) and there were
only two interior classroom scenes. These were both good - the
Boggart in the wardrobe is excellent - though not as funny as in the
book. Snape's locum DADA class is pretty good, though again, his
dialogue is castrated, as per bloody usual.

Buckbeak is good - though he is the only Hippogriff. There's a
fairly schmaltzy Harry flying on Buckbeak scene, presumably to keep
the CGI boys happy. Nice if you like schmaltzy flying across a lake
and hippogriff dipping its claws into the water scenes.

Emma Thompson does a fine comic turn as Trelawney.

Dawn French does ditto as the fat lady.

I liked Gary Oldman as Sirius. I thought he worked well, and acted
well, however see below...

The Quidditch match in the rain is very well done, and the arrival
of the Dementors is very scary.

The Marauders' Map was not bad. About as well as could be
expected. Though see below for my big WTF! about the Marauders' 
Map.  The connection between the map and Harry's father and his 
friends is never adequately explained - or the fact that Lupin 
recognises it, and Snape has justified suspicions about it.

The escape/back in time sequence is pacy, and a bit of a curates
egg - parts of it are excellent. Sadly....

Pettigrew - very well done. Looks very rat-like and acts that way
too. Spot on.

Moving moment when Harry said goodbye to Sirius. That was well done, 
but lacked the emotional punch of the book.

Dislikes:

The first half of the movie shows promise that is not borne out by
the second. I'll go into some detail further on.

Here's some minor points:

Hermione is ostentatiously wearing the time-turner in plain sight
of all as if it were her new gold necklace.

The toads were pointless. And my daughter thought they were
brilliant. And I did not comment (I'd been warned not to whinge 
about any canon rape) - I have disliked the toad chorus from first 
seeing the trailer - I still cannot see what the point of that was, 
to my mind it merely took up time that could have been used to 
depict more canon.

Thewlis is just not Lupin. Lovely bloke and all that, but just
wrong. In the first place, he is depicted as some refugee from
wartime - having that pencil moustache, and dressing like an extra
from Goodbye Mr Chips. He has a crystal radio set and listens to
what sounds like Tommy Dorsey. Well, maybe not Tommy Dorsey - but
you get the picture.

The backstory is still not properly explained. We discover that
Snape hates Sirius - but only at the point of their confrontation,
and never why. There has still been no mention of the fact that
they were all contemporaries at Hogwarts. The Prank is never
mentioned.

The fight in Hogsmeade with Malfoy is blown because Harry is not
caught by Snape on return. So no, "What was your head doing in
Hogsmeade" speech.

It is never adequately explained why Hermione has the sodding time
turner in the first place.

The full extent of Sirius's crimes are never properly explained -
"He told Voldemort where the Potters were" - no mention of the
Fidelius, and it implies he merely wrote down the house number and
street on a piece of paper and mailed it to Voldy. There is no 
mention of the Muggles killed or the fact that it was the day after.

The executioner of Buckbeak is some hokey looking weirdo in
skintight black, complete with head mask, looking like an extra
from a Monty Python mediaeval pastiche. He certainly isn't Walden
McNair, former Death Eater.

Sirius is covered in odd looking tatoos - were these some kind of
prison tagging, or what?

The Patronus. It is never fully explained what it is, what it
does. I was disappointed because it was just like a shield thing of
white light. Then at the last time, it is the stag. Why was it
different - the shield thing had worked. I suppose it was to keep
up the idea that it was James who had come back from the dead to
cast the Patronus right until the very end. The scene where the
stag Patronus repels the Dementors is powerful but I was
disappointed by its lack of explanation.

Pettigrew shows up on the Marauder's Map. Now we know he SHOULD
have done, but he didn't in the book.

The Shrieking Shack Scene and other Annoyances.

Oh, hell, lets just say Snape fans will not feel they have got their
moneys worth.

He's half Snape in this movie - not that scary, there's no edge. He
docks points off Hermione "for being an insufferable know-it-all" in
an almost offhand way. There's no malice. There's no real anger.  
POA (the book) is Snape at his nasty best.  Well, the book is, the 
movie is not. 

He does say it (the big big speech) - but only part. "Give me a 
reason" - that's all he says. Not the rest. He does not go ballistic 
at the end. The last we see of Snape in the movie is his being 
stupefied into the fourposter bed in the Shrieking Shack. What a 
bloody waste.

Clearly Kloves does not think Snape is important and that is why he
cuts most of his best lines and much of his scenes. I'm pretty
pissed off about it, as you can imagine.

And I'm sorry Rickmaniacs, he's just looking too old. All the older
generation looked too damn old, but Alan is just failing to suspend
my own personal disbelief.

Finally, what was new?  There have been hints that Cuaron has put 
stuff in that may be significant in later books.  I was on the 
watch, but only picked up one nugget:

We learn from Lupin that Lily was especially kind to him at a
particularly dark time in his life.

That was all I picked up, but there might have been more.

So overall, an entertaining movie experience - as a movie. True
fans will be disappointed in it as a flawed rendition of the book.

My final verdict?

Sack Kloves. Everything else is fixable for Movie 4.


June









From bboy_mn at yahoo.com  Mon May 31 17:55:44 2004
From: bboy_mn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 17:55:44 -0000
Subject: Dan - wishful thinking? - Nothing New
In-Reply-To: <c9ee2e+ctl9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <c9frj0+gomn@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "saintbacchus" <saintbacchus at y...>
wrote:
>
> ...edited...
> 
> I think Dan just likes the idea of Harry dying in the end. Actors do 
> tend to have a flair for the dramatic, no? ^_^
> 
> --Anna

bboy_mn:

In the other group I posted links that go back to Jan 2003 in which
people are discussing Harry dying at the end. As I was searching I
found links that went back as far as 2002, but they were relevant to
the context of that particular thread.

My only point is that this idea of Harry dying is far from new. I'm
gueesing that virtually every fan has considered it at one time or
another.

May 31, 2004- A Hero's Death - Basis in mythology??
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/99833

Just passing it along.

bboy_mn








From Berkana_01 at hotmail.com  Mon May 31 18:01:41 2004
From: Berkana_01 at hotmail.com (Joanna Barra)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:01:41 +0000
Subject: Harry potter premiere and film
Message-ID: <BAY7-F118SDbzLhnfp60004ba89@hotmail.com>

First off let me introdue myself Berkana is what i go by, I am 23 have 2 
kids and we are all huge fans of Harry Potter, especially the books, but we 
also love the films....we recently went to the world prem in london and then 
saw the film today.....it was a great 2days....I will tell you a bit about 
the prem    :-)

Oh my god, whst a fantastic 2days it has been first of all Sunday I went to
the london premiere, I received lots autographs, Tom Felton looked so cool
in his white suite, he was really stylish and once again Emma Watson looked
beautiful, she is really growing up....Daniel wore black or dark blue suit,
all the girls were screaming for him....It was so mad the best part for me
was Aunt marge above the crowd...Yes` they had an inflatable Aunt marge
above the crowd, it was so cool.....Oh and let me not forget Alan
Rickman....I love that man, I called to him and he looked and smiled....'I
wonder if he remembers me from the last premiere.....Hmmmmm wishful
thinking'...lol

i SAW the film today and OHMYGOD it was Bloody BRILLIANT!!!! as Ron would
say, the dementors put a chill down my spine I can tell you that. There are
some parts of the film, which I found really sad.This film diffinately beats
PS(ss) and CoS, they were great in their own right, but PoA just kills
them.....

Oh and another thing before i go....I was very close to Tom Felton and OH
gods he is so tall, I heard he is now 6ft1 or 2 and i can believe it and
after seeing the film looking at him next to harry he has really grown


ml

berkana
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From hp at plum.cream.org  Mon May 31 18:36:00 2004
From: hp at plum.cream.org (GulPlum)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 19:36:00 +0100
Subject: FILM: PoA Review - MINOR SPOILERS
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20040531193534.009ba290@plum.cream.org>

I've just got back from one of the first public shows (and most of the 
second) and wanted to share a few views. I've seen what's been said over 
the last couple of days in reply to Olivier's query regarding spoilers, so 
I'll try to keep details to a minimum.

Here's a bit of waffle in lieu of spoiler space. I've been away and/or 
extremely busy over the last few months and have been completely unable to 
follow. let alone participate in, the HP fandom. I hope to have a bit of 
time over the next few weeks at least so will attempt to catch up. A few 
people have tried contacting me and I apologise to them for my extended 
silence.

before I say anything further, I should say that I've not touched the book 
of PoA since before OotP came out, most deliberately, so that the contents 
(and chronology) would be fairly foggy in my mind and I could approach the 
movie with something approaching an open mind. I'm therefore more likely to 
be forgiving of changes made to the story's structure than those people 
who've got the text memorised. :-)

Anyway, on with my views on this film, starting with some less surprising 
(and thus unlikely to be spoilerish) notes.

As several "big time" reviewers have already pointed out, the most 
significant difference which is immediately noticeable between this film 
and its predecessors is the colour palette and shot selection. Gone are the 
brightly-lit bright reds, golds and greens, and in come shades of grey, 
with muted browns, greens and blues. We immediately have notice of this 
with the title frame, and indeed the Warner Brothers logo, both in greyscale.

Dumbledore is no longer bright and breezy, both in costume and aspect, but 
wears a muted grey cloak and hat, and has his grey (rather than white) 
beard tied in the middle. Nevertheless, I must admit that despite 
preferring Dumbledore's old costume, I much prefer Gambon's "absent-minded 
professor" to Richard Harris's "old sage". The look of pure innocence on 
his face when Harry and Hermione return from their adventure into the past 
is priceless! (as for his lackadaisical attitude towards Ron's broken 
leg...). :-)

As for the shot selection, some people will say that the film was replete 
with cliches and corny re-hashes, but I far prefer Cuaron's 
constantly-moving camera swooping over and through the action to Columbus's 
series of close-ups. This doesn't mean that Cuaron eschews close-ups 
completely - on a couple of occasions, he gets in so tight on Dan's face 
that one can notice the first stirrings of adolescent peach-fuzz on his 
cheeks and chin. :-) There's one Citizen Kane-inspired shot in particular, 
which I dearly want to know how it was done. The camera moves from the 
infirmary door, all along the corridor and then *through* the clock-face 
window, down through the grounds, to rest on the area around Hagrid's hut.

Talking of that clockface, the idea of "time" is omnipresent throughout 
this film. From clocks and watches, and people looking at them, to a 
persistent chiming of the hours, it's ladled on perhaps just a little *too* 
thickly, but it does have the effect of constantly taking up the tension, 
notch by notch.

Another persistent presence throughout the film is the Whomping Willow. 
Slightly re-imagined since CoS (and all CGI as far as I could tell apart 
from the roots), its appearance and behaviour better meet my expectations; 
it's at last more "whompy" rather than simply bashing away and looks more 
willowy, for starters! The shots of the willow aren't totally spurious, 
though, as the tree serves as our recurring indicator and barometer of the 
changing seasons (green then brown leaves which are shed, branches covered 
in snow, etc). The change to winter is also indicated by what was to my 
mind an entirely unnecessary and corny shot of Hedwig flying through a 
bright sky which becomes snow-laden. I couldn't understand the purpose of 
that shot's inclusion, as we then see the snow-laden Willow.

And finally on the subject of repeating motifs, we have the crows. They're 
*everywhere*! I can just imagine what a nightmare it must've been on set 
with them crapping all over the place...

A couple more notes on artistic flourishes and other details before I get 
down to the plot, which is where any real spoilers will be.

The music is very much "grown up" John Williams rather than the sweet tunes 
that he composed for the first movie. The original theme appears, but 
generally subtly disguised. The same goes for the Quidditch theme, which 
has had a complete make-over for the made-over approach to the sport. I 
know that some people have acquired (or at least listened to) the 
soundtrack album - I've deliberately kept myself away from that so the 
music isn't entirely at the top of my mind, but this is also a good thing 
inasmuch as it wasn't the constant overbearing presence which it was in the 
first two movies. If there is any one theme which occurs repeatedly, it's 
the toad chorus we've all come to wonder about. Whilst the full song is 
completely out of place and whose inclusion is (to me at least) 
incomprehensible during the start of year feast, it's an interesting motif 
and comes up again and again at appropriate moments, sometimes with 
variations.

I *like* the new uniforms. And the fact that the kids spent the majority of 
the screen time in street-clothes isn't really a problem, as a significant 
proportion of the plot happens at night (or, indeed, at Hogsmeade). One 
costume change I noticed immediately is that Malfoy now sports some kind of 
signet ring which I find a wonderful touch. On a compeltely different 
level, I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Percy has a SERIOUS acne 
problem! (or should that be Chris Rankin?). :-)

The acting, overall, was significantly superior to the first two films. 
Radcliffe's motor acting has improved immeasurably, but his line delivery 
and emotional "centre" still requires some work. The adults have been 
reduced to little more than cameos, if that. Snape-fans will be sorely 
disappointed, and I expect Gary Oldman's admirers will also feel a little 
short-changed. The only actor with more than a tiny handful of lines is, of 
course, David Thewlis, whom I'd never identified as Lupin, but now I'm 
sold. Nevertheless, he's been given a costume and a few mannerisms which I 
find just a little strange - I'd love to hear Cuaron's rationale for 
dressing him like a 1945 demobbed junior officer (complete with pencil 
moustache and brogues) and giving him a penchant for listing to 1940s (?) 
records on a wind-up gramophone - including during the Boggart class! Weird!

OK, on to the plot. During the transition from page to screen, some things 
worked and, regrettably, some didn't. Some things work better (IMO) on 
screen than they did on the page. I think the whole time-travel sub-plot 
was done very well, including just a couple of extra "incursions" of the 
pair into their past - I won't identify them, but in the first case, it 
took me (literally) a second to realise why something inexplicable had 
happened. I inwardly groaned as soon as it happened, not because of the way 
it was done, but because I had asked myself for that split second how it 
had come about. (I'm being deliberately vague.)

Other than that, though, there is a significant amount of join-the-dots to 
be done while watching this movie. Those who've read the book won't have 
any trouble, of course, but for those depending exclusively on the movie to 
explain what's going on (and why), there are just a few too many holes.

Top of the list for me are:

At no point is any connection made between the authors of the map (Messrs 
M,W,P&P) and Sirius, James, Lupin and Pettigrew. This would not have been 
difficult (personally, I'd have inserted it at the end when Harry gets the 
map back - this obviates the need for any lengthy explanations about what 
else the foursome may have got up to).

Sirius's and Snape's (past) relationship isn't mentioned *at all*. Seeing 
as one of my major gripes with the first movie (and the reason I read the 
book in the first place) is that no attempt is made to explain why Snape 
might hate Harry, I suppose I had no reason to expect anything here, but as 
this is a post-OotP movie, we *know* that this relationship comes to the 
fore and some kind of *mention* of it would have been helpful. The loss of 
the entire Infirmary confrontation with Snape, whilst understandable, is a 
major detriment to the pacing and plotting of this film.

It's never made clear that MWPP & Snape were class contemporaries. In fact, 
the film doesn't include a scene in which Lupin introduces the fact that he 
knew James and Lily at all. One of the presumably deliberate assumptions 
the film implies is that the conversation during which Lupin tells Harry 
about what his mother was like is not the first conversations they may have 
had on the subject.

Although Sirius mentions Lupin's having forgotten to take his "potion", 
it's not given a name, nor is it stated that Snape had any hand in 
preparing it (although perhaps the intention had been that by using that 
particular word, the viewer should jump to that conclusion). As a result, 
there is no explanation (or indeed reason) why Snape would have gone to the 
Whomping Willow when he does.

The screenplay created a problem for itself by (in some senses, adroitly) 
introducing the viewer to the concept of Animagi during the class on 
werewolves. Whilst this results in no need for a Transfiguration class in 
the movie, and makes a direct connection between the two methods of 
human-animal transformation, we get no background on there being a 
register, or of the three friends becoming Animagi in order to support 
Lupin. Once the stag appears, therefore, there is no reason to make a 
connection between it and James.

I thought the conversation in the Three Broomsticks and exposition on the 
background of *that* Halloween Night was particularly badly handled. First, 
Hagrid isn't there to give the recital some kind of human, emotional 
content, or to connect it *directly* to Harry. Second, there's no mention 
of the Fidelius (and therefore the extent of Sirius's presumed crime). In 
fact, the scene makes absolutely no dramatic sense as there is no reason 
whatsoever for Fudge and McGonagall to be telling all this stuff to 
Rosmerta (it's not quite as bad in the book), to be overheard by harry 
(alone, rather than with Ron and Hermione).

Whilst the Daily Prophet with the photo of the Weasleys in Egypt is shown, 
no connection is made to Sirius or his having seen it - there is therefore 
no explanation why he would choose this moment to escape from Azkaban and 
go after Scabbers, or indeed no explanation is made why he has become 
convinced that Peter's alive.

Those items are far from the only excisions from the book, but as far as 
I'm concerned, the film as it stands (and the characters' motivations) 
become completely incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't read the book. 
Unlike the previous two, I can only assume that the powers that be decided 
that there was no point in going after the audience that hadn't read them. 
I assume that their reasoning was that those parents (who'd NOT read the 
book) going to see it with their children (who HAD) can simply count on the 
kids to join the dots. Those kids who'd not read the books are probably too 
young to understand the nuances anyway.

Despite those shortcomings, I don't think that the fans have been *too* 
badly served. The film's pace is much, much better than the first two; 
there are no longueurs and I'm grateful for the loss of Columbus's 
trademark "stare at the camera and scream" shot, although there are a 
couple of variations - or are they homages? - e.g. Ron howling (as seen in 
the trailer) which actually *works*!

I'm also grateful that Jim Dale's invented pronunciation of 
"animagus/animagi" as heard in the U.S. audiobooks has been given the short 
shrift it deserved and the words are pronounced correctly (to my mind, at 
least).

The Harry we see in this film is more recognisably the one from the books. 
This isn't meek "insult me all you want" Harry, this is sharp-witted and 
barb-mouthed Harry (one of the reasons I like him the books and dislike him 
in the first two movies). His riposte to Snape in the hallway should have 
been joined by more (incidentally, having Harry read out the Map's 
insulting comment was a masterstroke - it's just a pity that they only 
included one of the four, and we didn't see the text on screen).

One little continuity gripe with which to finish this section: when Harry 
first makes his appearance in the snow, we can see the great footprints 
he's making. When he has his bit of fun with Malfoy & Co while they're all 
admiring the Shrieking Shack, does he suddenly stop making footprints? 'Cos 
nobody seems to know what's going on (including Ron & Hermione)... :-) (I'm 
sure there are other continuity errors but I couldn't be bothered to spot 
them.)

Final section of my comments: JKR has been quoted as stating that Cuaron 
has brought to the fore some things which aren't meant to be evident until 
the last two books. To my mind, two things spring out: there is absolutely 
no ambiguity about a Ron-Hermione romantic pairing; despite spending quite 
some time together, the only touch between Harry and Hermione is when he 
shields her from Werewolf!Lupin and she buries her head in his chest. 
However, Ron seems to want (and gets) a lot of TLC from her when they come 
out from under the Whomping Willow with his broken leg...

The other thing is something I've thought about since first seeing the 
first movie - Lily Potter is played by a "named" actress (i.e. Geraldine 
Somerville is far from a "nobody", at least on this side of the Atlantic), 
whereas James is played by someone I'd not even heard of previously (and I 
see a *lot* of movies, including small British ones, although to be fair, 
he was in "Soldier Soldier" on TV which was big although I didn't watch 
it).  Since then, however, Adrian Rawlins made "Wilbur Wants to Kill 
Himself" in which he had a major part (and at last I could get an idea of 
what James might sound like, though broad Scottish doesn't really fit the 
bill). Anyway, my point is that in the big scheme of things (i.e. the whole 
series and its finale), Lily is far more important a character than James. 
The way Lupin chooses to talk about the past in the PoA movie (and indeed 
the fact that Petunia Dursley seems to have a dark secret, hinted at in 
OotP) seem to indicate that Lily has more of a function in the past (and 
possibly present) of the Potterverse than James. Indeed, whilst a lot of 
people are interested in MWPP's schooldays, I for one am more interested in 
Lily's...

There are probably 100 more things I wanted to say about this movie, but 
seeing as I could've seen it twice (including getting to and from the 
cinema) in the time it's taken me to write the above, I think I'll shut up 
now and leave the floor to other people.

I am, of course, more than willing to share further views on this topic 
once I've seen the movie again - tomorrow. ;-)





From Ali at zymurgy.org  Mon May 31 20:27:01 2004
From: Ali at zymurgy.org (Ali)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 20:27:01 -0000
Subject: FILM: PoA Review - MINOR SPOILERS
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20040531193534.009ba290@plum.cream.org>
Message-ID: <c9g4el+fsv3@eGroups.com>

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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, GulPlum <hp at p...> wrote:

>>> I've just got back from one of the first public shows (and most 
of the second) and wanted to share a few views.>>


Wow, Richard! Welcome back. I'd begun to get seriously concerned 
about you.


>> Another persistent presence throughout the film is the Whomping 
Willow. Slightly re-imagined since CoS (and all CGI as far as I 
could tell apart from the roots), its appearance and behaviour 
better meet my expectations; it's at last more "whompy" rather than 
simply bashing away and looks more willowy, for starters! The shots 
of the willow aren't totally spurious>>>

No, they're not. But I couldn't stand the bit with Hermione being 
swirled around by the tree and then picking Harry up to chuck him 
down under the tree. Wonderwoman!Hermione got on my nerves - in the 
books, she doesn't become too perfect until OoP, and even there, she 
nearly fluffs it when she leads Harry and Umbridge into the 
Forbidden Forest.

>>> I *like* the new uniforms. And the fact that the kids spent the 
majority of the screen time in street-clothes isn't really a 
problem, as a significant proportion of the plot happens at night.<<<

I also liked the uniforms (with the exception of the Quidditch 
uniform which I really disliked), and I didn't find the use of 
street clothes jarring, which I had expected to. The issue of 
clothes is an interesting one though. In GoF, Harry is still wearing 
Dudley's cast offs, yet in the film, he has all well fitting modern 
clothing, and it is Ron who has the misfits. Arguably, Harry could 
have bought himself clothes to wear at Hogwarts with his cash, but 
it's an interesting change.

>>>The acting, overall, was significantly superior to the first two 
films. Radcliffe's motor acting has improved immeasurably, but his 
line delivery and emotional "centre" still requires some work.>> 

I tend to agree with this. I suppose the way I now see it (or hope 
it?), is that DR does have talent; it just needs to be fostered a 
bit more. But he did look like *my* Harry this time.

<<<The only actor with more than a tiny handful of lines is, of 
 course, David Thewlis, whom I'd never identified as Lupin, but now 
I'm sold.>>>

I agree, and I think this is perhaps the one area where I really 
disagree with June. Prior to the film, I could not imagine him as 
Lupin, but for me, he did "feel" like the Lupin I love.


>>> Sirius's and Snape's (past) relationship isn't mentioned *at 
all*. Seeing as one of my major gripes with the first movie (and the 
reason I read the book in the first place) is that no attempt is 
made to explain why Snape might hate Harry, I suppose I had no 
reason to expect anything here, but as this is a post-OotP movie, we 
*know* that this relationship comes to the fore and some kind of 
*mention* of it would have been helpful. The loss of 
 the entire Infirmary confrontation with Snape, whilst 
understandable, is a major detriment to the pacing and plotting of 
this film.>>>

I was also very disappointed by this. An extra couple of minutes 
doing the hospital scene would have made the plot hold together much 
better - plus, it's a delicious Snape scene!

 <<<e.g. Ron howling (as seen in the trailer) which actually *works*!
>>>

Contrast that with the ridiculousness of Hermione howling to tempt 
Lupin away from the others, even though we've already been told that 
Werewolves only recognise the howls of their own kind. I suppose 
this is back to my bugbear about Wonderwoman!Hermione. What on earth 
did she think she was doing trying to reason with a Werewolf? Grrrr.

 >>> I'm also grateful that Jim Dale's invented pronunciation of 
 "animagus/animagi" as heard in the U.S. audiobooks has been given 
the short shrift it deserved and the words are pronounced correctly 
(to my mind, at least).>>>

Yes, I'm intrigued as to how they're going to pronounce "Accio" - 
I'm still surprised at how many people have choosen "Ass eo" on the 
Accio.org.uk poll.
 
>>> The Harry we see in this film is more recognisably the one from 
the books. This isn't meek "insult me all you want" Harry, this is 
sharp-witted and barb-mouthed Harry (one of the reasons I like him 
the books and dislike him in the first two movies). His riposte to 
Snape in the hallway should have been joined by more (incidentally, 
having Harry read out the Map's insulting comment was a 
masterstroke.>>>

It was delicious, wasn't it? I think that particular change worked 
better than the original. I do wish that they'd kept in more of the 
Snape/ Harry dialogue. Why have HArry moaning that he'll have 
trouble doing an essay because of Quidditch when he could have kept 
demanding to know where Lupin was? 

>>> Final section of my comments: JKR has been quoted as stating 
that Cuaron has brought to the fore some things which aren't meant 
to be evident until the last two books. To my mind, two things 
spring out: there is absolutely no ambiguity about a Ron-Hermione 
romantic pairing; despite spending quite some time together, the 
only touch between Harry and Hermione is when he shields her from 
Werewolf!Lupin and she buries her head in his chest. However, Ron 
seems to want (and gets) a lot of TLC from her when they come out 
from under the Whomping Willow with his broken leg...<<<

I really do agree with this. I think that the only thing saving the 
Harry/ Hermione ship now is that JKR wasn't necessarily referring to 
that as the foreshadowing of events. Also, the Ron and Hermione 
relationship seen in this film is actually not that dissimilar to 
all the arguing and banter they share in OoP - so perhaps it doesn't 
foreshadow anything.

Ali





From jennifer at ftiwd.com  Mon May 31 20:36:22 2004
From: jennifer at ftiwd.com (Jennifer)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 15:36:22 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: FILM: PoA Review - MINOR SPOILERS
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Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: FILM: PoA Review - MINOR SPOILERS


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Gulplum wrote:

  >>> I *like* the new uniforms. And the fact that the kids spent the 
  majority of the screen time in street-clothes isn't really a 
  problem, as a significant proportion of the plot happens at night.<<<

Ali wrote:

  <<<I also liked the uniforms (with the exception of the Quidditch 
  uniform which I really disliked), and I didn't find the use of 
  street clothes jarring, which I had expected to. The issue of 
  clothes is an interesting one though. In GoF, Harry is still wearing 
  Dudley's cast offs, yet in the film, he has all well fitting modern 
  clothing, and it is Ron who has the misfits. Arguably, Harry could 
  have bought himself clothes to wear at Hogwarts with his cash, but 
  it's an interesting change.>>>

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  Was I the only person bothered by the appearence of the uniforms?  I went to private schools ... If I'd ever attended classes looking as sloppy as they do in this movie (shirts pulled out, ties not neat&tidy), I'd have been written up and sent to the disciplinarian.  The street clothes bothered me, too, because in GOF they make a big deal of making sure that everyone "looks muggle" clothing-wise before heading out of the house for the World Cup.  I can't see them spending that much time outside of robes, even at Hogsmeade (at least, the students from wizarding families wouldn't have a grasp on this like the muggle-borns would).

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From annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk  Mon May 31 23:00:12 2004
From: annelilucas at yahoo.co.uk (annelilucas)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 23:00:12 -0000
Subject: Chamber of Secrets
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I was rewatching CoS the other day and I think I noticed a change from
the version I saw in the cinema.  At the beginning there's a scene
where Dobby drops a cake on that woman's (don't know her name) head. 
This is followed by Uncle Vernon fitting bars to Harry's window.  I'm
sure I remember there being a scene between these where Vernon dragged
Harry up to his room.  I didn't notice any other differences, but I
hadn't seen it for ages.  Does anyone know whether the (UK) video
version is different from the cinema one?

Thanks,

Anneli 




From carolynwhite2 at aol.com  Mon May 31 22:12:12 2004
From: carolynwhite2 at aol.com (a_reader2003)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 22:12:12 -0000
Subject: POA - Movie Review - Does Contain Spoilers
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> I liked Gary Oldman as Sirius. I thought he worked well, and acted
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Carolyn:
But the moving poster of Sirius the murderer - what were they 
thinking of ? Really awful..didn't look remotely sinister, just 
silly - looked as though he was yapping on a talk show. And although 
he ended up with a suitably romantic Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves 
appearance, what happened to his skeletal thinness and long matted 
hair? I also thought he could have brought much more emotional 
intensity to all his scenes - I got no sense of 12 years pent-up 
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> Pettigrew - very well done. Looks very rat-like and acts that way
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Carolyn:
But surely far too old? He looked as though he was in his 50s..

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> The Shrieking Shack Scene and other Annoyances.
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I thought this was where the movie really fell down big time. Its one 
of Jo's best scenes IMO, both from emotional and plot POV, but no one 
watching it could have had a clue what was going on unless they knew 
the books. And as neither Lupin or Sirius had been given enough 
screen time up to this point to build up the depth of their 
characters, and Snape was only allowed a fleeting intervention, it 
just became a series of action shots rather than the very tense, and 
deeply involving psychological episode it is in the books.

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> Oh, hell, lets just say Snape fans will not feel they have got their
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Carolyn:
Too right, he was reduced to a walk on part throughout. Losing the 
row with Fudge at the end was very unfortunate. It could have been a 
dramatic closure, leading in to the next movie as it does in the 
books.

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> Sack Kloves. Everything else is fixable for Movie 4.

Carolyn:
Yes, on the whole, I was fairly disappointed. Although the special 
effects are as good as before, I thought it really creaked with the 
difficulty of beginning to handle deeper, darker stuff. WB are 
obviously under huge pressure to make something acceptable to a 
global kids market, and I think the conflict is really beginning to 
show.

Noticeably, in the cinema I was in, the majority kids audience did 
not watch in rapt attention as they did at the other two films. I got 
the impression they were a bit bored with a lot of the dialogue, and 
a bit blase about the special effects. Those that were paying 
attention kept up a steady chorus of 'that's wrong' !

I posted on OT earlier, and repeat the comment here, that I just hope 
that one day we get a series of films about the books aimed largely 
at an adult audience, replete with all the complexity, wit and nuance 
that we see so much of in the books. What slightly worries me is that 
Jo is apparently very pleased with the way this film stays close to 
the emotional truth of POA, when it seemed to me to skim very lightly 
over the top of it. Granted, Harry is a bit more lippy, but otherwise 
still very wooden in his 'big' scenes, and Lupin...what a wasted 
opportunity. Aargh.. and Hermione, especially being swung around by 
the Whomping willow...definitely surplus to requirements.

I'm due to see it again next weekend..hope it improves on second 
viewing (and in the company of the HPfGU London Group!).

Carolyn