Lupin and Sirus... gay?

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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "joxy" <joxy at i...> wrote:
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> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "susanmcgee48176" 
> <Schlobin1 at a...> wrote:
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> > If you think that it's ridiculous and impossible that two guys 
could be lovers, you're not living in the real world.same gender 
love has existed forever.If you think it's absolutely impossible 
that there could be same gender partners in the Harry Potter 
universe, You're saying that  JKR is a bigot has everyone noticed 
that Fiona Shaw who plays Aunt Petunia is probably a lesbian?)it is 
totally clear that Harry is heterosexual as are Cho, Hermione, Ron, 
Viktor, Percy, Molly, Arthur, Hagrid, Olympe, Ginny, Neville... some 
of you will squeal and object that they might be lovers The director 
of the PoA has clearly instituted a gay subtext...when Lupin says 
that "people like him" are used to moving....his use 
of the music in facing the Boggart, his tweeds, his 
gentleness....either the director is making an analogy to gay men
Snape makes the obviously homophobic comment "you're arguing 
like 
> an old married couple."
> >
> > Now, Snape is really a vile guy
> > 
> > don't get hysterical about the idea that Remus and Sirius might 
have been lovers Susan McGee
> 
> I don't want to upset anyone, and I'm a gay man, but:
> There isn't any deal!!
> No-one thinks it's impossible for two guys to be lovers.
> Of course same gender love has existed forever, everyone knows 
that.
> No-one is saying there couldn't be same-sex partners in HP.
> No-one is saying that JKR is a bigot.
> It's impossible to NOTICE that someone is a gay woman; there's 
> nothing in their physical appearance to indicate it.
> On the other hand there's no way of knowing that your list of 
> characters are heterosexual.
> No-one will do any sqealing and objecting.
> The director has NOT clearly, or in any other way, instituted a 
gay 
> sub-text.
> "People like him" means werewolves - pure and simple, no sub-text, 
> nothing more.
> Music, tweeds, gentleness - nothing to do with gayness at all.
> The director is NOT making ANY analogy.
> There's NOTHING homophobic about Snape's remark about couples.
> No-one is getting hysterical about that idea.
> It's very nice of you to defend gay people and gayness generally, 
> but first, we don't need defending, and second, there's nothing in 
> the books or the films to be defensive about.



To prevent any charges of Homophobia- I'm a lezzie: don't jump down 
my throught, but it is soooo possible to 'notice gay women'. A more 
perfect example of a dyke you could'nt find then my girlfriend. But 
back on topic...I think that in the BOOKS, no there isn't any gay 
subtext. However in the movie...look I'll be the first to admit that 
my gaydar is wonky, but to me there are clear signs of queerness.
1)The music. yes it's a cliche; but it's a movie, they MUST speak in 
short-hand- there's only a few hours to tell the tale and so they do 
it constantly, with speech patterns, walk, name (come on, 'Draco 
Malfoy?!) and clothes. Which brings me neatly to...
2)Tweed. That, I believe is more to do with him being a Brit than 
gayness really, but still it is worth taking a look at.
3)The gentleness. I have yet to meet a 100% straight man who is 
quite that sweet. I'll give you there probably are some out there, 
but I have yet to meet them.
Also- we can't marry, our youth is at the highst risk for suicide of 
all teens, we are still regularly attacked(not just verbaly, too) 
and in some countries there's still a fairly high risk for being 
thrown in jail, or killed...yes we do need defending.
a somewhat pissy-sfeilis