Lupin and Sirus... gay? and Hermione and Ron

susanmcgee48176 Schlobin1 at aol.com
Thu Nov 25 00:10:00 UTC 2004


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> From: "joxy" <joxy at i...>
> <big snip>
> There's NOTHING homophobic about Snape's remark about couples.
> 
Hmmm....okay, was Snape being nice to Sirius? No, he was insulting 
him...

The insult would not have been very powerful if it had been Minerva 
McGonagall and Albus Dumbledore who had been "fighting." If Snape had 
said that to Profs. M and D it wouldn't have been much on an insult.

It WAS an insult; Snape hates Sirius; he was trying to be nasty; so 
he dipped into the well of bigotry...so therefore I think his comment 
was homophobic.

I am not terribly convinced by folks who say "my best friend is gay 
and he doesn't think that was homophobic." As illustrated right here 
on this list, lesbians and gay men are not monolithic, do not agree 
about everything, and often don't think alike. 

Obviously, Lupin is a werewolf and obviously the parents are 
discriminating against him because he's a werewolf. That doesn't mean 
Cuaron isn't also doing a gay sub-text...meaning that he is also 
analogizing to the ostracism of gays and lesbians. In the 1950s, 
lesbians and gays in the U.S. were totally closeted, routinely lost 
their jobs..and CERTAINLY we still lose jobs as teachers or child 
care providers because of the myth that we molest children. It's one 
of the most pernicious and nasty myths about lesbians and gays. One 
of the cues here is "parents don't want..well, someone like 
me..teaching their children." Why didn't he say "parents don't want 
werewolves teaching their children?"

I watched the interviews on the dvd of the PoA yesterday (am I 
missing some deleted scenes? was very disappointed there weren't 
more, but it is WONderful to be able to pause and figure out who's 
who in the picture of the Weasley family in Egypt..it was said that 
JKR approved the changes in the PoA saying that they foreshadowed the 
last two books..that there are clues as to what will happen..

I think it's also obvious (remember just my opinion)that the movie 
clearly indicates that Ron and Hermione will have the 
relationship..THEY are bickering like an old married couple..she 
calls him Ronald..and there is the cutest interaction while Harry and 
Sirius are talking about Hogwarts and Sirius is suggesting that Harry 
come and live with him (whew I was sad when I realized that Sirius 
will never re-enter Hogwarts as a free man, and he and Harry will 
never live together in the country)...I picked it up on the dvd..
Ron is saying "my leg, it may be permanently damaged"...clearly the 
mirror image of Malfoy boasting to Pansy Parkinson (was it 
Pansy)..but of course Ron has no ulterior motive of getting rid of 
Buckbeak, he is just drinking in Hermione's concern. Very sweet.

Susan 
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