From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 1 15:36:42 2004 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:36:42 -0000 Subject: extra students In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Tim" wrote: > I rewatched film 1 today, and there is something I hadn't noticed > before. When Percy is leading the 1st years to the Gryffindor tower > there are definately more than 10 students... and when they reach the > Common Room there appears to be 12-15 students gathered around him as > he explains where the dormitories are. Had anyone else noticed this > before?? > > Tim This is very noticeable. Has anyone ever paid attention to the number of kids sitting at each House table? And remember the description in the book of about 200 Slytherins at a Quidditch match. There are definitely more than 70 kids per House. Right? Marci From garybec101 at comcast.net Wed Sep 1 11:55:33 2004 From: garybec101 at comcast.net (garybec) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 11:55:33 -0000 Subject: PoA movie vs. book In-Reply-To: <12b.4a64dafe.2e65dea2@aol.com> Message-ID: artsylynda at a... wrote: > I am rereading the series now, and I am once again bothered by a > discrepancy. In the book, Peter Pettigrew is discovered alive by > Lupin using the Maurader's Map after H/R/H had already met up with > Padfoot and Crookshanks. He then goes into the Shrieking Shack > after them. In the book, however, Harry tries to find Pettigrew in > the school one night after he (Scabbers) disappeared. Harry follows > the map by wandlight and appears to walk right past him. > > Unlike the other discrepancies in the plot details, I don't see any > cinematic reasons for changing this pretty significant (in my > opinion) detail in the story line. Is anybody else bothered by > this, or does anybody have any explaination as to how this change > had ANY positive effect to the story or why the director chose this means to an end? Becki joins the movie talks! Hello everyone. I will jump right in since I was very impressed by this part of the film. I actually liked the film explaination better than the book on this one. To me, it made more sense for Harry to see Peter on the map. And I thought Lupin in the "shack" was too cryptic. It seemed to take him forever to get to his point. He kept saying (paraphrasing), "there were two of you", (speaking of Ron and Peter/Scabbers). The trio had no idea what he was talking about. I was a bit disapointed that they didn't do the full scene with Snape getting insulted by the map. That had to be my favorite part in the book. Oh well. At least part of it got in. Becki: who only got to see the movie twice and can't wait for the DVD! From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Thu Sep 2 00:09:49 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:09:49 -0000 Subject: PoA movie vs. book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" wrote: In fact the > only things that really bug me are no backstory on the marauders (or > limited story) and the werewolf was naked and had no tail - what is > up with that? Peter even mentions in OotP OWL test he put the 'tufted > tail'. Sorry I found it gross looking not scary at all and all the > kids I have taken to see it have said the same thing. Why couldn't he > have looked scary like the one in Van Helsing or even like American > Werewolf in London. Those were some scary werewolves. > > Theresa Not to mention Lupin was also a naked "barbie-ized" version of a werewolf - sexless and anorexic - truly frightening, but in the wrong way! Sassy From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Thu Sep 2 20:33:57 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:33:57 -0000 Subject: PoA movie vs. book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" wrote: > In fact the > > only things that really bug me are no backstory on the marauders > (or > > limited story) and the werewolf was naked and had no tail - what is > > up with that? Peter even mentions in OotP OWL test he put > the 'tufted > > tail'. Sorry I found it gross looking not scary at all and all the > > kids I have taken to see it have said the same thing. Why couldn't > he > > have looked scary like the one in Van Helsing or even like American > > Werewolf in London. Those were some scary werewolves. > > > > Theresa > > Not to mention Lupin was also a naked "barbie-ized" version of a > werewolf - sexless and anorexic - truly frightening, but in the wrong > way! Sassy I thought it looked like it was made of plastic! Darby From artsylynda at aol.com Sat Sep 4 01:43:56 2004 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 21:43:56 EDT Subject: Harry's wand Message-ID: <155.3e18e265.2e6a77dc@aol.com> In the first two movies, Harry had a rather plain looking wand, and according to canon, it was 11 inches, holly, phoenix feather core (as we all know). The point here is the 11 inches, and the fact that the initial wand was quite plain, just a turned handle and a smooth shaft (I guess you'd call it). I noticed in PoA the wands were much more ornate (very pretty, where the ones in the first two films were plain and "workmanlike" not fancy), with vines carved down the length of the wands, and fancier handles. I just followed a link that was on Leaky (here's the URL to the wand I'm talking about: _http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN7005&catid=21_ (http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN7005&catid=21) ) and not only are the wands more ornate (they have copies of Hermione's and Ron's wands for sale too), but they say this wand is 14 inches long -- that's the length of Voldemort's wand (according to canon -- I've been re-reading Sorceror's Stone lately). I just found that interesting in all kinds of ways, for some reason. I'm tossing it out here in case anyone wants to speculate on why (in Harry's world) his wand might have "grown" with him. I think the filmmakers just wanted the wands to be bigger because the kids are bigger, most likely. I wondered if anyone had any other interesting ideas on the subject. Lynda "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Sat Sep 4 14:02:19 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:02:19 -0000 Subject: POA time passing Message-ID: Sassy here - I got the feeling with the last film that time/seasons were not really passing, despite the whomping willow shots. Like when Buckbeak is to be executed that is following there exams, which in the film it did not - it was closer to Easter when Hermione walks out of class, but then in the film Harry hears the prediction from Trelawney. But if it was a regular class day, where the heck were all the other students on the school grounds? It would make more sense around exam time there would be less students out and about. One thing I truly liked about the first 2 films was feeling the school year actually progressing - but through the kids more than anything. Also, with Harry just flying off on his Firebolt, where was the ending? How many of you sat in the theatre expecting a little bit more to the end...although the credits were awesome. I think Cuaron should have been with the first film but as a cinematographer. He would have captured a beautiful look that would have stayed with all the films and not have glaring inconsistencies that even a child commented on. From scully931 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 03:14:45 2004 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:14:45 -0000 Subject: POA time passing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think you make a couple really good points. Cuaron as cinematographer would have been superb. Also, I absolutely cringe when I see that ending. Everone around me was like, "What the heck?" when it ended. Not the feeling you want as a movie ends. I thought it was cheesy and cheap. I also agree with you that the credits were great! ~Deborah --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape" wrote: > Sassy here - I got the feeling with the last film that time/seasons > were not really passing, despite the whomping willow shots. Like when > Buckbeak is to be executed that is following there exams, which in > the film it did not - it was closer to Easter when Hermione walks out > of class, but then in the film Harry hears the prediction from > Trelawney. But if it was a regular class day, where the heck were all > the other students on the school grounds? > > It would make more sense around exam time there would be less > students out and about. One thing I truly liked about the first 2 > films was feeling the school year actually progressing - but through > the kids more than anything. > > Also, with Harry just flying off on his Firebolt, where was the > ending? How many of you sat in the theatre expecting a little bit > more to the end...although the credits were awesome. > > I think Cuaron should have been with the first film but as a > cinematographer. He would have captured a beautiful look that would > have stayed with all the films and not have glaring inconsistencies > that even a child commented on. From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 10:22:02 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:22:02 -0000 Subject: POA time passing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My kids never let me sit through the credits. I'm just wondering what was so special about them? I third the opinion on the ending. I had the feeling Cuaron thought, "oops, this movie is running too long, how can I end it quickly" Darby --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scully931" wrote: > I think you make a couple really good points. Cuaron as > cinematographer would have been superb. > > Also, I absolutely cringe when I see that ending. Everone around me > was like, "What the heck?" when it ended. Not the feeling you want > as a movie ends. I thought it was cheesy and cheap. > > I also agree with you that the credits were great! > > ~Deborah > From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Sun Sep 5 15:10:24 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 15:10:24 -0000 Subject: POA time passing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To Darby: Obviously Cuaron did not take into account the other 2 films were 10 minutes longer and nobody complained about that length - I am sure a lot of us would have sat there longer if need be. I know after seeing them with a couple children, these kids did not even twitch during the any of the films, and we all know the books are leading down a more adult subject matter. The credits were styled after the Maruader's map, there was no extra scene like in CoS. But it was interesting to see all the places on the map and the footprints (including canine and fowl) paths. But then the Marauder's map was beautifully delivered in the film. ~Sassy~ --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Darby" wrote: > My kids never let me sit through the credits. I'm just wondering what > was so special about them? > > I third the opinion on the ending. I had the feeling Cuaron thought, > "oops, this movie is running too long, how can I end it quickly" > > Darby > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scully931" wrote: > > I think you make a couple really good points. Cuaron as > > cinematographer would have been superb. > > > > Also, I absolutely cringe when I see that ending. Everone around me > > was like, "What the heck?" when it ended. Not the feeling you want > > as a movie ends. I thought it was cheesy and cheap. > > > > I also agree with you that the credits were great! > > > > ~Deborah > > From sgarfio at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 20:54:08 2004 From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA time passing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040905205408.53126.qmail@web53205.mail.yahoo.com> --- Darby wrote: > My kids never let me sit through the credits. I'm just wondering what > was so special about them? The credits are so cool! Somebody already explained that they are modeled after the Marauder's Map, and there are human, dog, and bird footprints (I think they're supposed to be owls, since they're near the owlery, and there's a cat chasing one of them). I wanted to add that there are many other recognizeable things going on in the footprints - two people slow dancing, kids jumping over the words as if they were fences, and somebody tapping their foot to the Knight Bus theme, to name a few. They also have dog prints turning into human prints, which was cute even if it was a mistake (during the film, Wormtail shows up as human prints - or maybe he was wearing little rat shoes? ;-P). You'll just have to watch them when the DVD comes out and you can let your kids wander off. My daughter loves the credits as much as I do, but my son was chomping at the bit to get going, so I can relate. Darby again: > I third the opinion on the ending. I had the feeling Cuaron thought, > "oops, this movie is running too long, how can I end it quickly" Yeah, someone should have told him that there's no such thing as "too long" when it comes to Harry Potter. I understand why they left out the whole Firebolt/Hermione subplot, but I would have been happier if they hadn't even bothered to show us the Firebolt until GoF. At least it shows that Sirius intends to keep in touch, but I think his last scene in the courtyard showed this well enough. Sherry Garfio ===== "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open." -- Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tmarends at yahoo.com Sun Sep 5 21:15:04 2004 From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 21:15:04 -0000 Subject: POA time passing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Darby" wrote: > > I third the opinion on the ending. I had the feeling Cuaron thought, > "oops, this movie is running too long, how can I end it quickly" > > Darby > I, personally, think that somebody (JKR maybe) told them that the Firebolt had to be delivered in this film... because it certainly did feel like it was just tacked on. Tim From lziner at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 00:55:47 2004 From: lziner at yahoo.com (lziner) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:55:47 -0000 Subject: Mummers' Dance (POA songvid) In-Reply-To: <1088.4.47.27.220.1093839165.squirrel@www.silverbloom.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Dina Lerret" wrote: > Song is a butchered copy of Mummers' Dance by Loreena McKennitt. This vid > turned out more as an exercise in editing since I hadn't done fades in > awhile. Don't apologize that was terrific! You are very creative and this song is perfect for what you have done :) Thanks for sharing - I'm keeping this to replay until DVD time :) Thanks again!!! LZ - who has never posted on the movie list before From tekayjaye at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 01:49:17 2004 From: tekayjaye at yahoo.com (Tekay Jaye) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Harry's wand In-Reply-To: <155.3e18e265.2e6a77dc@aol.com> Message-ID: <20040906014917.71120.qmail@web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com> artsylynda at aol.com wrote: I'm tossing it out here in case anyone wants to speculate on why (in Harry's world) his wand might have "grown" with him. I think the filmmakers just wanted the wands to be bigger because the kids are bigger, most likely. I wondered if anyone had any other interesting ideas on the subject. Lynda "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP tekay now: Hmm...I suspect the filmmakers made the wands bigger to make them more visible to the audience. 11 inches really isn't very long -- the length of a piece of printer paper. I realize that 14 inches isn't much bigger, but it may be enough for visual impact, especially on a movie screen. I don't think we're supposed to read anything into it, but I could be wrong. Interesting observation, though! tekay --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From AnyaSimbi at aol.com Mon Sep 6 02:33:07 2004 From: AnyaSimbi at aol.com (AnyaSimbi at aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:33:07 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: POA time passing Message-ID: <192.2e4d1036.2e6d2663@aol.com> Same here. I was expecting at *least* another 15minutes! :p ~*SimbiAni*~ http://fanfiction.net/~PrincessSimbiAniDreamzaLuv http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SimbiFanfic Look forward to: Music: DarrenHayes' 2nd solo CD: "the Tension & the Spark" ! (Sept2004) Music: HilaryDuff's 2nd solo CD: "HiLARY DUFF" ! (Sept2004) TV Shows: CHARMED Season7, SMALLViLLE Season4 ! (Sept2004) Movie: on DVD "HarryPotter3: Prisoner of Azkaban" ! (Nov2004) Movie: on DVD "LotR3: Return of the King: Extended"! (Dec2004) Movie: on DVD "SpiderMan2" ! (Dec2004) In a message dated 9/5/04 10:00:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > From: "Darby" > Subject: Re: POA time passing > I third the opinion on the ending. I had the feeling Cuaron thought, "oops, > this movie is running too long, how can I end it quickly" -Darby [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From swartell at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 03:31:55 2004 From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 20:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: PoA movie vs. book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040906033155.95975.qmail@web53208.mail.yahoo.com> Sassy said > > Not to mention Lupin was also a naked "barbie-ized" > version of a werewolf - > This one still bugs me. I know that there was a good deal of discussion that the "distinguishing features" of a werewolf that Snape told them to learn refered to the characteristics of the _human_ form of the werewolf, but I don't buy that, based on book-canon. In OOTP, in Snape's memory in the pensieve, Wormtail is fretting about the distinguishing characteristics of the werewolf P. 643 (American hard-cound edition) "I got the snout shape, the pupils of the eyes, and the tufted tail,"... One might argue that the human phase would have a change to the pupils (though that would make detecting them incredibly easy), but somehow, I don't see either snout or tail as something the non-transformed werewolf would have, and if I saw something that looked like the creature in the movie, I would not be worrying about needing to see the pupils of its eyes to know that it wasn't a normal wolf! I just loved Lupin's answer to Sirius, BTW - paraphrasing: He's sitting in my chair, he's wearing my clothes, his name is Remus Lupin ... Sue __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Schlobin1 at aol.com Wed Sep 8 01:30:12 2004 From: Schlobin1 at aol.com (susanmcgee48176) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:30:12 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: <97.49cb0b0a.2e10aa70@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, clshannon at a... wrote: > I found this interview snippet on a live journal. It's an interview of Cuaron > by someone named Elvis Mitchell, who is the host of a radio show somewhere in > the US (don't really know where). It's pretty funny ;-) > > ***************************************************************** > Interviewer: One thing it really shows is your rapport with the actors. I > feel like it's something you probably want to bring to the movies. It's more > about the actors and the piece. > Curaon: [...] We were always working for the honesty of the moment, even > though they are wizards, their emotions are very human. Fron the get-go, we > established that kind of relationship with the actors. For instance, Professor > Lupin, who's played by David Thewlis. We said he's your favorite gay uncle who does > smack. > Interviewer: [laughing] I gotta read this book again! > ********************************************************************** **** > > I guess Snape's comment about Lupin and Black bickering like an old married > couple has some validity > Cindy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************** And no one has picked up on the homophobia of the person who objected to Curaon's comment? When he said that Lupin was everyone's favorite gay uncle...when the poster said s/he objected to "letting the real world in", equating drugs and sloppiness and disrespect with being gay? Being gay does not mean the kids were engaging in constant sex, anymore than the assumption of heterosexuality of all the characters means that the kids are engaging in heterosexual sex. From scully931 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 02:08:52 2004 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 02:08:52 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, I was one of the people who commented on letting the real world in. And, yes, that quote from Cuaron was what started the conversation. (That along with the much discussed uniform, etc.) The gay part didn't bother me, I didn't care for the 'smack' comment. (Which is certainly my right.) Not sure why I feel the need to defend my opinion here, but, my best friend is gay and never would I think the things that were written below. I thought Lupin was cool. An uncle who does drugs isn't cool. That was and is my opinion. :-) Deborah > **************** > > And no one has picked up on the homophobia of the person who objected > to Curaon's comment? When he said that Lupin was everyone's favorite > gay uncle...when the poster said s/he objected to "letting the real > world in", equating drugs and sloppiness and disrespect with being > gay? > > Being gay does not mean the kids were engaging in constant sex, > anymore than the assumption of heterosexuality of all the characters > means that the kids are engaging in heterosexual sex. From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Thu Sep 9 01:17:25 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 01:17:25 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree with Deborah - drugs aren't cool and the comment was way out of line...equating homosexuals with drug use...Sassy --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Scully931" wrote: > Hello, > > I was one of the people who commented on letting the real world in. > And, yes, that quote from Cuaron was what started the conversation. > (That along with the much discussed uniform, etc.) The gay part > didn't bother me, I didn't care for the 'smack' comment. (Which is > certainly my right.) Not sure why I feel the need to defend my > opinion here, but, my best friend is gay and never would I think the > things that were written below. I thought Lupin was cool. An uncle > who does drugs isn't cool. That was and is my opinion. :-) > > Deborah > From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Thu Sep 9 01:19:30 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 01:19:30 -0000 Subject: Detroit-Windsor meetup group Message-ID: Hey all...I was wondering if anybody is from the Detroit-Windsor area, because I am organizing a meetup for HP fans...let me know if you are interested! Sassy From clshannon at aol.com Thu Sep 9 01:25:28 2004 From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:25:28 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Amusing comment from Cuaron Message-ID: <158.3ea4e622.2e710b08@aol.com> In a message dated 9/8/04 6:20:02 PM, onceupona_party at yahoo.ca writes: > I agree with Deborah - drugs aren't cool and the comment was way out > of line...equating homosexuals with drug use...Sassy > I think Cuaron was being symbolic here. I took it to mean he was equating Lupin's 'condition' with like someone who is dependent on drugs. I don't think he meant it as a literal drug addict, but rather as someone who has a physical need for a substance - in Lupin's case, it's the wolfsbane potion to counteract the transformation. He comes across as a sickly person, ie., a drug addict. Anyway, that's how I read it - just using our terminology to make a connection to a character. But that's just me ;-) Cindy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From scully931 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 02:08:35 2004 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:08:35 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: <158.3ea4e622.2e710b08@aol.com> Message-ID: That's a very interesting way to look at it, Cindy. I don't know if he meant it that way or not. But, I like your explanation! :-) ~Deborah > I think Cuaron was being symbolic here. I took it to mean he was equating > Lupin's 'condition' with like someone who is dependent on drugs. I don't > think he meant it as a literal drug addict, but rather as someone who has a > physical need for a substance - in Lupin's case, it's the wolfsbane potion to > counteract the transformation. He comes across as a sickly person, ie., a drug > addict. > Anyway, that's how I read it - just using our terminology to make a > connection to a character. > But that's just me ;-) > Cindy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dianasdolls at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 08:33:07 2004 From: dianasdolls at yahoo.com (Diana) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:33:07 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: <158.3ea4e622.2e710b08@aol.com> Message-ID: > In a message dated 9/8/04 6:20:02 PM, onceupona_party at y... writes: > > > > I agree with Deborah - drugs aren't cool and the comment was way out > > of line...equating homosexuals with drug use...Sassy > > Cindy replied: > I think Cuaron was being symbolic here. I took it to mean he was equating > Lupin's 'condition' with like someone who is dependent on drugs. I don't > think he meant it as a literal drug addict, but rather as someone who has a > physical need for a substance - in Lupin's case, it's the wolfsbane potion to > counteract the transformation. He comes across as a sickly person, ie., a drug > addict. Diana L. chimes in: The director's quote was also commenting about Lupin's attitude towards things. In addition to the symbolism Cindy cited, the "does smack" comment suggests a person who does not do things by the rules - a someone who does dangerous things without thinking about the consequences - a someone who is outside of everyday normality. This character trait directly relates to Lupin's running around Hogsmead as a werewolf when he was a student at Hogwarts. As for the "gay uncle" comment, I do think the director was directly relating Lupin's werewolf condition and his subsequent ostracism by mainstream society because of that condition to the plight of gay people and how they are treated by society in general. Drug addicts are also self-destructive, which Lupin certainly seems to be during his time as a wolf. He's always covered in scratches after each ordeal in the movie. As a sidenote, I also found David Thewlis's portrayal of Lupin to be a tad ambiguous on the "gay" front and I would imagine that Curaon would have picked up on that actor's take on the character while directing him. Diana L. From ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com Thu Sep 9 18:29:39 2004 From: ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com (ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com) Date: 9 Sep 2004 18:29:39 -0000 Subject: Noble Collection merchandise Message-ID: <1094754579.3818160979.14426.sendItem@bloglines.com> I just got the new Noble Collection catalog today, and they now have a Harry Potter section! Included are all kinds of nifty, high-quality merchandise such as wands, wizard coins, the chess set from SS/PS, the Mirror of Erised, and the Time-Turner! It's all rather pricey (particularly the chess set) but still cheaper than some of their other movie-related sets such as Lord of the Rings. Check it out: http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=21 Manda who really wants the Time-Turner and the Flying Hedwig Pendant :-) -- http://www.jenesaisoz.com From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Thu Sep 9 22:43:08 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 22:43:08 -0000 Subject: Noble Collection merchandise In-Reply-To: <1094754579.3818160979.14426.sendItem@bloglines.com> Message-ID: Today my timeturner arrived in the mail - it is truly awesome. Unfortunately you can't wind it or go back in time, but there is an inscription on the rings so to speak...Sassy --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, ozorbust.2426283 at b... wrote: > I just got the new Noble Collection catalog today, and they now have a Harry > Potter section! Included are all kinds of nifty, high-quality merchandise > such as wands, wizard coins, the chess set from SS/PS, the Mirror of Erised, > and the Time-Turner! > > http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=21 > > From sgarfio at yahoo.com Thu Sep 9 22:58:07 2004 From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Noble Collection merchandise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040909225807.81494.qmail@web53203.mail.yahoo.com> I bought a timeturner from Japan on E-bay and paid too much. Oh well, it is lovely! I also have the coins, which I also bought on E-bay from England, and were about the same price. I really must stay away from E-bay. Hermione's wand is awesome! I do wonder why its box is lined in green though :-) And Ron's is lined in blue. It will take a tremendous amount of willpower (which I clearly don't have) not to buy Hermione's wand! Pity the timeturners don't work! Sherry Garfio --- Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape wrote: > Today my timeturner arrived in the mail - it is truly awesome. > Unfortunately you can't wind it or go back in time, but there is an > inscription on the rings so to speak...Sassy > > --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, ozorbust.2426283 at b... wrote: > > I just got the new Noble Collection catalog today, and they now > have a Harry > > Potter section! Included are all kinds of nifty, high-quality > merchandise > > such as wands, wizard coins, the chess set from SS/PS, the Mirror > of Erised, > > and the Time-Turner! > > > http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=21 > > > > > > ===== "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open." -- Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From saitaina at frontiernet.net Thu Sep 9 23:10:52 2004 From: saitaina at frontiernet.net (Saitaina) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:10:52 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Noble Collection merchandise References: <20040909225807.81494.qmail@web53203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016801c496c2$416b7640$01fea8c0@domain.invalid> Sherry wrote: I've had my time turner for a while now and recently have been cursing the fact it doesn't work...like when 500$ of my belongings got lost in the mail (they were being shipped back to me from Philadelphia where I was staying with friends). Would kill to use the Time Turner to go back and save all that from disappearing...or just my Tom Felton collection of DVD's. Saitaina **** "...And you," Harry said to Draco. "Let me define the term rescue to you. It's not to come and then having to be saved yourself." http://www.livejournal.com/users/saitaina "No, one day I'm going to look back on all this and plow face-first into a tree because I was looking the wrong bloody way. And I'll still be having a better day than I am today." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From jmmears at comcast.net Thu Sep 9 23:40:23 2004 From: jmmears at comcast.net (serenadust) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:40:23 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "susanmcgee48176" wrote: > And no one has picked up on the homophobia of the person who objected > to Curaon's comment? When he said that Lupin was everyone's favorite > gay uncle...when the poster said s/he objected to "letting the real > world in", equating drugs and sloppiness and disrespect with being > gay? > > Being gay does not mean the kids were engaging in constant sex, > anymore than the assumption of heterosexuality of all the characters > means that the kids are engaging in heterosexual sex. As a long-time member, I'd like to respectfully ask that we not get into labeling and name-calling other posters. There's always bound to be a variety of opinions on all the HPfGU lists, and that's what makes the discussions interesting. If people begin to be fearful that they will be personally attacked for expressing an opinion it tends to have a rather chilling effect on the conversation and well... it just kind of sucks the fun out of things, IMO. Jo S. From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Thu Sep 9 23:45:22 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:45:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Amusing comment from Cuaron Message-ID: <20040909234522.HFIR14580.out011.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> > From: clshannon at aol.com I think Cuaron was being symbolic here. I took it to mean he was equating Lupin's 'condition' with like someone who is dependent on drugs.?? I don't? think he meant it as a literal drug addict, but rather as someone who has a physical need for a substance - in Lupin's case, it's the wolfsbane potion to counteract the transformation. He comes across as a sickly person, ie., a drug addict. Anyway, that's how I read it - just using our terminology to make a connection to a character. But that's just me ;-) Cindy That's an interesting view. Didn't think of it that way. I thought Cuaron was just implying that Lupin looked a bit effeminate (though I don't really see that), and was also a bit whacky. Who knows?! Valerie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Thu Sep 9 23:48:50 2004 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:48:50 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Amusing comment from Cuaron Message-ID: <20040909234850.INVX14383.out010.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> > From: "Diana" As a sidenote, I also found David Thewlis's portrayal of Lupin to be a tad ambiguous on the "gay" front and I would imagine that Curaon would have picked up on that actor's take on the character while directing him. Diana L. Is it possible that David Thewlis is gay in real life? Does anyone know? Or am I taking that comment WAAAY too literally? Valerie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anmsmom333 at cox.net Fri Sep 10 05:31:47 2004 From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:31:47 -0000 Subject: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: <20040909234850.INVX14383.out010.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe wrote: > Is it possible that David Thewlis is gay in real life? Does anyone know? Or am > I taking that comment WAAAY too literally? > Valerie > > Well, I would say that would be no he is not, as he lives with his partner the lovely Anna Friel. They were both in Timeline except he was a bad guy and she was Lady Claire. She also can be seen with him at the London POA premiere. She is quite pretty. As for Cuaron's comments I took it to mean "the uncle who is a little odd and has a secret no one really wants to speak about."(the don't ask don't tell motto) I think Cuaron just words things a tad differently sometimes. I mean he told Daniel to think of a scantily clad Cameron Diaz to get a desired expression on his face. Theresa From flyingmybroomstick at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 03:14:13 2004 From: flyingmybroomstick at yahoo.com (Samantha Thomas) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Two-legged dog Message-ID: <20040910031413.11759.qmail@web41601.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, While perusing my favorite website www.fark.com, I came across a link that said a two-legged dog that could walk on its hind legs had been contacted for a possible role in the upcoming Harry Potter film, "The Goblet of Fire." The story was from the BBCt, so one would have to give them the benefit of the doubt. The link is http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3641338.stm and the story is called "Potter Film Hope for Disabled Dog." The reason I'm writing is to ask what role this dog could possibly fill? You can read the article for the details, but I'm scanning my brain right now and can't think of anywhere the dog would fit. Thanks for your input, Siriusly Stumped Samantha --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ejblack at rogers.com Fri Sep 10 09:23:39 2004 From: ejblack at rogers.com (jcb54me) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:23:39 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Amusing comment from Cuaron In-Reply-To: <20040909234522.HFIR14580.out011.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe wrote: > > From: clshannon at a... > I think Cuaron was being symbolic here. I took it to mean he was equating > Lupin's 'condition' with like someone who is dependent on drugs.?? I don't? > think he meant it as a literal drug addict, but rather as someone who has a > physical need for a substance - in Lupin's case, it's the wolfsbane potion to > counteract the transformation. He comes across as a sickly person, ie., a drug > addict. > Anyway, that's how I read it - just using our terminology to make a > connection to a character. > But that's just me ;-) > Cindy That is very much how I took the comment. Also I saw the 'gay' word also used symbolicily for someone that is treated as an outsider because of something in their life, something that they had no choice about. Being an outsider often makes a person more perceptive, compassionate, wise, and a little bit sad, all of which describes Lupin. Jeanette From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 11:20:15 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:20:15 -0000 Subject: Interview with Jamie Waylett (Crabbe) about GoF.... Message-ID: Thought you might be interested, here is a link to the article. It says farret scene and Yule Ball are in (hurray!!!!!). http://www.hpana.com/news.18297.html I bet the farret scene will be so funny! Darby (Who agrees with Theresa about the Cuaron comment) From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 15:17:42 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:17:42 -0000 Subject: Noble Collection merchandise In-Reply-To: <1094754579.3818160979.14426.sendItem@bloglines.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, ozorbust.2426283 at b... wrote: > I just got the new Noble Collection catalog today, and they now have a Harry > Potter section! Included are all kinds of nifty, high-quality merchandise > such as wands, wizard coins, the chess set from SS/PS, the Mirror of Erised, > and the Time-Turner! It's all rather pricey (particularly the chess set) but > still cheaper than some of their other movie-related sets such as Lord of > the Rings. Check it out: > > http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=21 > > > > Manda > who really wants the Time-Turner and the Flying Hedwig Pendant > :-) > -- > http://www.jenesaisoz.com I agree, I would love to have the Time-Turner and Hedwig Pendant! I can't tell if the Hermione wand is made of wood or not. Darby (who is completely clueless as to what part to 2 legged dog would play in GoF) From sgarfio at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 20:21:51 2004 From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Two-legged dog In-Reply-To: <20040910031413.11759.qmail@web41601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040910202151.43726.qmail@web53207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Samantha Thomas wrote: > The reason I'm writing > is to ask what role this dog could possibly fill? You can read the article > for the details, but I'm scanning my brain right now and can't think of > anywhere the dog would fit. The article does say this: "Faith's owners in Oklahoma City in the US believe the part could involve her appearing as the result of a spell." That's just the owners' speculation, but I suppose a spell gone awry could fit in many places, probably Transfiguration class. I can also see lots of possibilities for animal rights activists getting upset if they don't realize that the dog was born like this (or even if they do realize it), which would be a shame because the owners must be really dedicated to try to give this dog a decent quality of life. I do hope it doesn't come off as exploitative. Sherry Garfio ===== "Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open." -- Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool From bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 23:46:09 2004 From: bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com (bruinfan1988) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:46:09 -0000 Subject: Cedric Diggory actor in Vanity Fair? Message-ID: I read, somewhere, that the actor who is playing Cedric Diggory was in the new production of Vanity Fair -- but when I look at imdb.com to compare the cast lists of the two movies, I can't find the actor's names. Anyone know anything about this? From goalieracer at yahoo.com Sat Sep 11 01:04:03 2004 From: goalieracer at yahoo.com (Barb) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cedric Diggory actor in Vanity Fair? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040911010403.32769.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> He was in it...but his role was cut during post production. Bummer-I was looking forward to seeing him in it. --- bruinfan1988 wrote: > I read, somewhere, that the actor who is playing > Cedric Diggory was > in the new production of Vanity Fair -- but when I > look at imdb.com > to compare the cast lists of the two movies, I can't > find the > actor's names. > > Anyone know anything about this? ===== Elen sila lumenn omentielvo. Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quen le. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool From bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 11 08:01:55 2004 From: bruinfan1988 at yahoo.com (bruinfan1988) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 08:01:55 -0000 Subject: Cedric Diggory actor in Vanity Fair? In-Reply-To: <20040911010403.32769.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, that makes sense -- I was looking during the movie for anyone who could have been about the right age, with no luck. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Barb wrote: > He was in it...but his role was cut during post > production. Bummer-I was looking forward to seeing > him in it. > > --- bruinfan1988 wrote: > > > I read, somewhere, that the actor who is playing > > Cedric Diggory was > > in the new production of Vanity Fair -- but when I > > look at imdb.com > > to compare the cast lists of the two movies, I can't > > find the > > actor's names. > > > > Anyone know anything about this? > > > > > ===== > Elen sila lumenn omentielvo. Aa' menle nauva calen ar' ta hwesta e' ale'quen le. > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool From artsylynda at aol.com Mon Sep 13 19:34:31 2004 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:34:31 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Patil twins casting Message-ID: <92.15005d58.2e775047@aol.com> I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? Lynda "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anmsmom333 at cox.net Mon Sep 13 19:48:40 2004 From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:48:40 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <92.15005d58.2e775047@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote: > > I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, > but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the > twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be > considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron > giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's > dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? > > Lynda > > "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP > > > > I have wondered the same thing since seeing the information on Leaky. I thought the young lady who played Parvati in POA was quite pretty and she did actually speak in the boggart scene (of course it was only to say the spell but she spoke). I thought it was neat they were using actual twins as with James and Oliver playing Fred and George. Maybe these girls were not available for GoF or there was some other conflict with the studio. It is a shame though as they really would look like the prettiest girls in their year. Of course Emma is gorgeous too so already filmwise that would seem to be an odd comment for the boys to make but I guess because she is a brainy girl who is not giggley like Parvati the boys pay her no mind. I am glad that the film makers kept the Yule Ball though. Cannot wait to see who they pick to be the Weird Sisters. Theresa From scully931 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 01:39:28 2004 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:39:28 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <92.15005d58.2e775047@aol.com> Message-ID: Oh, why start being consistant now? ;-) Shame, though. I thought that's why they were prominant too. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote: > > I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, > but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the > twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be > considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron > giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's > dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? > > Lynda > > "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From twinslove at mindspring.com Tue Sep 14 16:51:21 2004 From: twinslove at mindspring.com (Kimberly Roth) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:51:21 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Patil twins casting References: <92.15005d58.2e775047@aol.com> Message-ID: <001d01c49a7b$13be25a0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> ----- Original Message ----- From: artsylynda at aol.com To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Patil twins casting I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? Lynda>> See, I have disagree. Although I thought the girls were cute in POA, they seemed reserved and shy. From my take of the books, the Patil twins and Lavender are very outgoing, a little superficial, and very pretty. Kimberly [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 20:41:35 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:41:35 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <001d01c49a7b$13be25a0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: I can't recall from the books. Are they described as identical twins? Darby > > I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, > but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the > twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be > considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron > giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's > dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? > > Lynda>> > > From scully931 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 23:36:35 2004 From: scully931 at yahoo.com (Scully931) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:36:35 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I never took them to be identical at all. Not sure why, though. It's true that they do seem to always want to be the center of attention. At least, that's the way I took it. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Darby" wrote: > I can't recall from the books. Are they described as identical > twins? > Darby > > > > > I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and > Parvati Patil, > > but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they > using the > > twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could > easily be > > considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. > I thought Cuaron > > giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being > Harry's and Ron's > > dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? > > > > Lynda>> > > > > From clshannon at aol.com Tue Sep 14 23:54:34 2004 From: clshannon at aol.com (clshannon at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:54:34 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Patil twins casting Message-ID: In a message dated 9/14/04 1:47:30 PM, cincimaelder at yahoo.com writes: > I can't recall from the books.? Are they described as identical > twins??? > Well, Hermione does mention that they are identical. In GOF, here's the quote: ********************************************************** "Brothers and sisters usually go in the same Houses, don't they?" he said. He was judging by the Weasleys, all seven of whom had been put into Gryffindor. "Oh no, not necessarily," said Hermione. "Parvati Patil's twin's in Ravenclaw, and they're identical. You'd think they'd be together, wouldn't you?" ************************************************* Cindy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 19:25:29 2004 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 19:25:29 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <001d01c49a7b$13be25a0$a11ba8c0@KIMBERLY> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: artsylynda at a... > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Patil twins casting > > > > I read on Leaky that they've cast two girls to be Padma and Parvati Patil, > but they aren't twin sisters or even sisters! So why aren't they using the > twins who were in PoA? They were beautiful girls and could easily be > considered "the prettiest girls in school" as it says in canon. I thought Cuaron > giving them so much screen time was leading up to them being Harry's and Ron's > dates for the Yule Ball. Anyone know anything about this? > > Lynda>> > > > See, I have disagree. Although I thought the girls were cute in POA, they seemed reserved and shy. From > my take of the books, the Patil twins and Lavender are very outgoing, a little superficial, and very pretty. > > Kimberly I thought those girls looked a bit young/small too. Just my opinion. Has anyone seen pictures of the girls that were cast? Perhaps they actually look alike. There are enough celebrities out there who are not related but look enough alike to pull off siblings/relatives. (Justin Timberlake/Ryan Phillipe, Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron, Ed Harris/Viggo Mortenson, Christian Slater/Jack Nicholson - they can't play twins though LOL) Right?? Marci From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 23:15:58 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:15:58 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I thought those girls looked a bit young/small too. Just my opinion. > Has anyone seen pictures of the girls that were cast? Perhaps they > actually look alike. There are enough celebrities out there who are > not related but look enough alike to pull off siblings/relatives. > (Justin Timberlake/Ryan Phillipe, Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron, Ed > Harris/Viggo Mortenson, Christian Slater/Jack Nicholson - they can't > play twins though LOL) Right?? > > Marci Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron? You really think these 2 look like they could be related?????!!!!!!! Darby From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 00:04:24 2004 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:04:24 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I thought those girls looked a bit young/small too. Just my opinion. > > Has anyone seen pictures of the girls that were cast? Perhaps they > > actually look alike. There are enough celebrities out there who are > > not related but look enough alike to pull off siblings/relatives. > > (Justin Timberlake/Ryan Phillipe, Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron, Ed > > Harris/Viggo Mortenson, Christian Slater/Jack Nicholson - they can't > > play twins though LOL) Right?? > > > > Marci > > > Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron? > You really think these 2 look like they could be related?????!!!!!!! > > Darby With those two, it's just that sometimes, their looks are the same (in movies only though) but Jolie has definitely got the stronger looks. My mom thinks they do. LOL I can't remember what we were watching when she said that. From tallcarabians at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 17 01:43:05 2004 From: tallcarabians at sbcglobal.net (Rae Callaway) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:43:05 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Patil twins casting References: Message-ID: <008a01c49c57$adb6e970$210110ac@TALLC> The most sibling-like actors I've seen have been David Keith, Kurt Russell and Patrick Swayze - they all have similar shaped blue eyes. :o) Rae ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marci" To: Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:04 PM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Patil twins casting > > > I thought those girls looked a bit young/small too. Just my > opinion. > > > Has anyone seen pictures of the girls that were cast? Perhaps > they > > > actually look alike. There are enough celebrities out there who > are > > > not related but look enough alike to pull off siblings/relatives. > > > (Justin Timberlake/Ryan Phillipe, Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron, > Ed > > > Harris/Viggo Mortenson, Christian Slater/Jack Nicholson - they > can't > > > play twins though LOL) Right?? > > > > > > Marci > > > > > > Angelina Jolie/Charlize Theron? > > You really think these 2 look like they could be > related?????!!!!!!! > > > > Darby > > With those two, it's just that sometimes, their looks are the same > (in movies only though) but Jolie has definitely got the stronger > looks. My mom thinks they do. LOL I can't remember what we were > watching when she said that. > > > > > ________HPFGU______Hexquarters______Announcement_______________ > > WARNING! 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Groups Links > > > > > > From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 11:52:55 2004 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:52:55 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <008a01c49c57$adb6e970$210110ac@TALLC> Message-ID: "Rae Callaway" wrote: > The most sibling-like actors I've seen have been David Keith, Kurt Russell > and Patrick Swayze - they all have similar shaped blue eyes. :o) > > Rae Yes! Keith and Russell, too. Especially when they were younger. How about Lily Tomlin and Ellen Travolta?? Marci From blackgold101 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 13:21:30 2004 From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:21:30 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: <008a01c49c57$adb6e970$210110ac@TALLC> Message-ID: "Rae Callaway" wrote: > The most sibling-like actors I've seen have been David Keith, Kurt Russell > and Patrick Swayze - they all have similar shaped blue eyes. :o) > > Rae Okay. A few more names have come to me: Paul "Pee Wee" Reubens/Alan Cummings Ben Chaplin/Joaquin "Leaf" Phoenix Leelee Sobieski/Helen Hunt Maureen "Marsha Brady" McCormick/young Cybill Shephard and how could I forget Johnny Depp/Skeet Ulrich Sometimes Jewel looks like Renee Zellwiger Marci (who will probably think of more) From cincimaelder at yahoo.com Fri Sep 17 17:44:32 2004 From: cincimaelder at yahoo.com (Darby) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:44:32 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: e: > > Paul "Pee Wee" Reubens/Alan Cummings > Ben Chaplin/Joaquin "Leaf" Phoenix > Leelee Sobieski/Helen Hunt > Maureen "Marsha Brady" McCormick/young Cybill Shephard > and how could I forget > > Johnny Depp/Skeet Ulrich > > Sometimes Jewel looks like Renee Zellwiger > > Marci (who will probably think of more) Of all those you mentioned, I really think Leelee Sobieski/Helen Hunt look like sisters. It was hard convincing my self that they weren't related! Darby From onceupona_party at yahoo.ca Mon Sep 20 23:01:32 2004 From: onceupona_party at yahoo.ca (Severina Amadenna Salem-Snape) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:01:32 -0000 Subject: HP meetup Saturday Sept 25 Message-ID: Just wanted to extend the invite to the group - if you are in the neighbourhood stop by!!! Sassy Snape, sent the following message to the members of CanUsa Potterphiles. When: Saturday, September 25, 2004 at 7:00 PM Where: Holiday Inn Select - The Other Place restaurant PUB 1855 Huron Church Road Windsor, ON N9C 2L6 519-250-3663 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Simple directions for out-of-towners. Take the bridge into Canada, after customs, (you should not have to declare your wands as a weapon :)) follow the road south (away from the bridge) - the exit from Customs merges into Huron Church Road. You will have to go past the shopping plazas, Holiday Inn will be on your right. You will have to turn onto Malden to get into the parking lot. I believe it is at the third or fourth light. For those who may be taking the 401 into Windsor - continue on the 401, it will merge into Huron Church, when the road curves. You will have to go under another expressway (EC Row) and about three lights until you reach Malden Rd. Also, watch out for the trucks - you will have to get into the left-hand lane. The meeting will not be cancelled, so I hope everyone can attend. *********What would you like to experience at the first Windsor meetup??******** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you are interested in coming to Windsor earlier let me know and I am sure some of us could meet earlier. Also, if Prisoner of Azkaban is still playing in Windsor, is anybody interested in going to the showing? It is usually a noonish-1pm showing. Sassy From kpruk at yahoo.co.uk Thu Sep 23 14:11:09 2004 From: kpruk at yahoo.co.uk (Katharine Bradley) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:11:09 -0000 Subject: Bonnie Wright on T.V Message-ID: Did any one see that Bonnie Wright (Ginny) was in Agatha Christe: A Life in Pictures on BBC 2 last night? She played a young Agatha. Kate From artsylynda at aol.com Thu Sep 23 15:11:38 2004 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:11:38 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Bonnie Wright on TV Message-ID: <140.33ad2c8d.2e8441aa@aol.com> In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:39:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: Did any one see that Bonnie Wright (Ginny) was in Agatha Christe: A Life in Pictures on BBC 2 last night? She played a young Agatha. Kate We don't get BBC 2 here "across the pond" -- at least not on our cable system. Did she look very different? Are there pictures somewhere? Lynda "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 24 12:47:00 2004 From: carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk (hettiebe) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:47:00 -0000 Subject: GoF Cast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Didn't know that Brendon Gleeson had been given the Moody part. He's very good but to my mind there is only one actor who should have been given the part which is Nigel Davenport. For goodness sake he could have done it with hardly any makeup! --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "cincimaelder" wrote: > Hello, this is my first time posting to this board. I have read many > of the previous posts. > > I want to say first, I love the casting they've done so far for GoF, > both unknowns and established actors. They always do such a good job > of casting these films. I remember reading in one post that Katie > Leung (Cho Chang) was lovely. I can't find a picture of her, does > anyone know a site that has one? > > Also, I really love the pick of Brendan Gleeson for Moody. That's one > of my favorite characters and I think they will do a good job of > makeup for him and I just can't wait to see it. Also, Rita Skeeter is > another favorite character (absolutely hilarious) and I love the pick > for her as well. ALso love Ralph Fiennes as VM, he played a bad guy > in Red Dragon, I think he will be great. > > Every time I see a new cast memeber and look at the picture I say, > "yes, yes, that's the perfect ________!" > > MAE (praying they include the Yule Ball. Ron and Harry are such > typical 15 year-old boys in it. From carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 24 12:51:18 2004 From: carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk (hettiebe) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:51:18 -0000 Subject: Patil twins casting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not sisters. Clones! Loved a story a read the other day about a young Ian McShane (now starring in Deadwood). When a young man he played in a film as Richard Burton's gay lover. Apparently Burton said that he didn't mind kissing him as he looked like Elizabeth Taylor. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Darby" wrote: > e: > > > > Paul "Pee Wee" Reubens/Alan Cummings > > Ben Chaplin/Joaquin "Leaf" Phoenix > > Leelee Sobieski/Helen Hunt > > Maureen "Marsha Brady" McCormick/young Cybill Shephard > > and how could I forget > > > > Johnny Depp/Skeet Ulrich > > > > Sometimes Jewel looks like Renee Zellwiger > > > > Marci (who will probably think of more) > > Of all those you mentioned, I really think Leelee Sobieski/Helen Hunt > look like sisters. It was hard convincing my self that they weren't > related! > > Darby From carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 24 13:36:57 2004 From: carol_sutcliffe at yahoo.co.uk (hettiebe) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:36:57 -0000 Subject: The trio's acting abilities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've felt from the first film, and nothing has changed my mind, that, of the trio, Rupert Grint is far and away the best actor. Yes he can be a bit hammy, a bit too much gurning for my taste, but he does have genuine comic timing. I think that he will be the one to have a lasting career out of this. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Marci" wrote: > Valerie Flowe wrote: > > From: "Marci" > > > > > > > > Don't get me started on Emma Watson. At some points in POA, she was > > definitely > > good. But she is still not consistent. I can't stand her "ancient > > runes" speech on the way to COMC. I was happy she improved though. > > > > [from Valerie] > > I think all the kids improved this go 'round. > > Particularly good Ron lines that I recall: > > "You went all rigid; We thought you were having a fit or > something..... > > I felt like I'd never be cheerful again" > > and of course, the tap-dancing spider dream is too, too cute! > > > > Hermione > > I love how she slaps Harry's hand as he reaches for the time- > turner. And, in > > her defense for those who thought she was too Super Woman in POA; > she does > > show a lack of foresight when Harry asks how they will rescue > Sirius and she > > replies "No idea!"; then, as the werewolf is galloping towards > them, she > > says "Oops, didn't think of that!" > > And yes, I do think she needs to work on the timing of her delivery > > (example: "Ow, Ron, that was my foot"; ill-timed and why did they > put that > > in there? Yes, it was in the book; but rather irrelevant, IMO, in > regards to > > more important stuff they left out. > > When she jumps to Ron's defense in front of the Shrieking Shack, > before > > Malfoy calls her a filthy little mudblood > > And yeah, I think her laugh is a bit fakey during the ancient runes > speech. > > > > Harry > > The one line that bugged me due to ill-timing was when the train > stops, Ron > > asks why and Harry replies "Dunno, maybe blah blah blah" Can't > recall exact > > words, but it almost seemed like this was the first scene they shot > for POA, > > and he was a bit rusty? > > Love the whole Patronus practice scene w/Lupin. Harry and Lupin > talking so > > honestly about James and Lily. The way they are sitting and > interacting with > > one another, etc. I think it's a very vulnerable and pivotal scene > in the > > film for Harry. > > Even after 5 times I still get chills after his fantastic "EXPECTRO > > PATRONUM!!!!" Very dramatic scene. > > I am in total agreement about the slapping of Harry's hand by > Hermione. To me, that was her best moment, very natural. Super > Hermione is entirely Steve Kloves' fault, not Emma Watson's. > Yes, "Ouch, Ron, that was my foot," was ill timed, as was "Just > forget it" (a friend pointed out). > > For Ron's lines, he had some good ones and his delivery was great, > not strained, no pauses. The one you mentioned on the train is a > good example. I really can't think of a place where he faltered. > (Someone please help.) "You're gonna suffer but you're gonna be > happy...about it." LOL > > I was finally impressed by Dan in POA. But the Aunt Marge scene was > not strong for him. And you were looking for, "Dunno. Maybe we've > broken down." > > Marci From kpruk at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 28 14:31:09 2004 From: kpruk at yahoo.co.uk (Katharine Bradley) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:31:09 -0000 Subject: Bonnie Wright on TV In-Reply-To: <140.33ad2c8d.2e8441aa@aol.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at a... wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/23/2004 10:39:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: > > > Did any one see that Bonnie Wright (Ginny) was in Agatha Christe: A > Life in Pictures on BBC 2 last night? She played a young Agatha. > > Kate > > > > > We don't get BBC 2 here "across the pond" -- at least not on our cable > system. Did she look very different? Are there pictures somewhere? > > > Lynda > > "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There are no pictures that I know of, but she didn't look any different. Kate From libtax10375 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 15:45:15 2004 From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:45:15 -0400 Subject: GOF script References: <1096402567.1823.7504.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <004d01c4a63b$51829490$9d18ef04@CPQ16151965929> I just finished reading this and thought you all might find it interesting: http://www.pensieve.net/gofscript1.htm It is a first task excerpt from the GOF script. A few things flew (no pun intended) out at me. Let me know what you think! Leeann From nicholas at adelanta.co.uk Thu Sep 30 04:12:26 2004 From: nicholas at adelanta.co.uk (nicholas at adelanta.co.uk) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:12:26 +0100 Subject: Cinefex article Message-ID: Thought you might like to know that Cinefex, a technical journal for the movie special effects industry, has a feature on PoA in its current issue, number 99, dated October 2004. It's a fascinating article if you're interested in knowing how those effects were achieved. Cinefex can be found in the larger bookstores and newsstands and can also be ordered via their website; www.cinefex.com Some highlights; The model of Hogwarts is 25 feet (8 metres) high The full-sized Buckbeak was created using 30,000 feathers 'Blown-up' Aunt Marge was not a CG image; the actress Pam Ferris wore a pneumatic fat suit which could be inflated wholly or partially as required (remember the inflating finger?) and was hoisted around the set using cranes to achieve the right effect. Nick Dudman, the creature and makeup effects designer, took out an ad in the same issue of Cinefex, thanking his team, as well as Pam Ferris, Warwick Davis and David Thewlis. Sounds like he put them through hell! Cheers, Nicholas From libtax10375 at earthlink.net Thu Sep 30 16:19:36 2004 From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:19:36 -0400 Subject: Cinefex References: <1096558374.1588.63648.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <007a01c4a709$4922acd0$f618ef04@CPQ16151965929> Nick Dudman, the creature and makeup effects designer, took out an ad in the same issue of Cinefex, thanking his team, as well as Pam Ferris, Warwick Davis and David Thewlis. Sounds like he put them through hell! Cheers, Nicholas Now, I only saw the movie twice so please don't ridicule me. Why wasWarwick Davis especially thanked ? We hardly saw him at all. As a matter of fact, I didn't even recognize him. I thought they had replaced him. Please, I would like to know what I missed so when the DVD comes out I know what to look for. I tried the link, but I couldn't get the article. Thanks for any help you can offer, Leeann From artsylynda at aol.com Thu Sep 30 17:00:42 2004 From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:00:42 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cinefex article Message-ID: In a message dated 9/30/2004 11:35:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com writes: Nick Dudman, the creature and makeup effects designer, took out an ad in the same issue of Cinefex, thanking his team, as well as Pam Ferris, Warwick Davis and David Thewlis. Sounds like he put them through hell! Cheers, Nicholas I know Warwick Davis was Flitwick and the head teller in Gringott's in SS, but what did he play in PoA? Was he the little Hitler-looking guy who led the choir? Has there been any explanation at all of why they changed his appearance so much? Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this question, which has been plaguing me ever since I saw PoA the first time. I LOVED Flitwick the way he was in the first two movies, a perfect "tiny little wizard" as he's described in canon. This little Hitler-looking guy was just creepy. I hope I can find that magazine! Sounds really intersting. Lynda "The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg, OoP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kreneeb at hotmail.com Wed Sep 29 18:58:08 2004 From: kreneeb at hotmail.com (hermionekitten9) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:58:08 -0000 Subject: GOF script Message-ID: >From: "Leeann McCullough" >Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com >To: , >Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GOF script >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:45:15 -0400 > >I just finished reading this and thought you all might find it interesting: >http://www.pensieve.net/gofscript1.htm >It is a first task excerpt from the GOF script. A few things flew (no pun >intended) out at me. >Let me know what you think! >Leeann > > kitten: Yes... it looks like another fun-filled adventure- extravaganza entitled Hermione Granger and the Goblet of Fire... kitten... who can't help but roll her eyes at Steve Kloves