From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sat Jan  1 00:27:27 2005
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 00:27:27 -0000
Subject: Rita Skeeter
Message-ID: <cr4qpf+m06j@eGroups.com>


Happy New Year, all!

Just thought I'd alert you to the first pic of Rita--see it on Leaky.

Sophia






From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat Jan  1 03:10:06 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:10:06 EST
Subject: downloadable ring tones with HP movie music
Message-ID: <1a6.2e62289b.2f076e8e@aol.com>


Hi -- I think I remember someone posting a link to a site where you  can 
download ring tones for cell phones that are the music from the HP  movies.  I'd 
love to use "Hedwig's theme" as my ring tone!!!  And I  JUST got a new cell 
phone that allows such downloads -- so can someone please  steer me in the right 
direction?  Thanks a lot!  It's a Motorola  phone, with Verizon service, if 
that makes any difference.  

Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg,  OoP



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From ladypensieve at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  1 19:34:01 2005
From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Kathy)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:34:01 -0000
Subject: foreshadowing
In-Reply-To: <cprtqk+3eu8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cr6tv9+8gsv@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
wrote:that Harry's eyes were his weakness....

As far as the foreshadowing is concerned...JKR said there were two 
things/times.  The only thing I picked up on were:

1) When Harry is sitting on the rock under his invisibility cloak.  
Hermione starts to go to him and Ron tries to pull her back, to stop 
her.  We see a long shot of Ron alone and Hermione with Harry.

2) Later when Hagrid is tossing stones, the long shot is of Ron and 
Hermione on one side and Harry standing alone.

This could be foreshadowing - book 6 where Ron begins to believe 
that Hermione is meant for Harry, and book 7 where Harry decides he 
needs to stay away from his friends for fear of their getting hurt. 

I'll go back to lurking now....LOL.
Kathy






From PenapartElf at aol.com  Sat Jan  1 23:56:04 2005
From: PenapartElf at aol.com (penapart_elf)
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:56:04 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: New Year's Resolutions for HPfGU-Movie
Message-ID: <cr7dak+pq7b@eGroups.com>


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sun Jan  2 07:13:40 2005
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 02:13:40 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Rita Skeeter
In-Reply-To: <cr4qpf+m06j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <BDFD0954.697%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

She looks awesome!!! Prettier than I pictured ole Rita, though!
And what about the recent pic of Ron (and Harry) in their dress robes?!!
C'mon, now! Mrs. Weasley can't be that daft as to expect Ron to wear
something so preposterous to the ball!!! I found that a bit over the top.
Valerie

From: "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at hotmail.com>

Just thought I'd alert you to the first pic of Rita--see it on Leaky.



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From libtax10375 at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  2 15:10:41 2005
From: libtax10375 at earthlink.net (Leeann McCullough)
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:10:41 -0500
Subject: [HP Ring Tones)
References: <1104605510.301.96775.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <004801c4f0dd$41ae30f0$f55079a5@leeannlaptop>

Hi -- I think I remember someone posting a link to a site where you  can
download ring tones for cell phones that are the music from the HP  movies. 
I'd
love to use "Hedwig's theme" as my ring tone!!!  And I  JUST got a new cell
phone that allows such downloads -- so can someone please  steer me in the 
right
direction?  Thanks a lot!  It's a Motorola  phone, with Verizon service, if
that makes any difference.

Lynda

Leeann Responds:
I too would love to have HP ring tones on my cell phone. I"m not very high 
tech, but that would really be cool, and drive my husband crazy (an added 
bonus). 




From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Sun Jan  2 17:41:11 2005
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 17:41:11 -0000
Subject: Rita Skeeter
In-Reply-To: <BDFD0954.697%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <cr9bnn+3bu6@eGroups.com>


I actually like the way Miranda looks as Rita. I thought Rita was 
supposed to be a little attractive so people would spill their 
secrets and Miranda also looks rather snobby in the photograph. And 
if you look at Hermione in the photograph she looks like already she 
cannot stand her. Neat picture.

I also saw the photographs of Ron's robes and the one of Hermione and 
Harry in the tent. Boy he looks tense but who wouldn't and Hermione 
looks afraid for him. I wonder if they will show the fingernail marks 
on her face after the task or if she will have her little outburst at 
the boys when they are making up. I always liked that scene in the 
book. 
As for the photograph of Ron's robes...I thought they were funny. 
With the outfits Mr and Mrs Weasley wore in CoS and PoA I could 
picture her purchasing those robes for him. They were supposed to be 
really lacy and rather garish. Remember how Draco made fun of them on 
the train. I wonder if they will have Ron do the severing charm on 
them. It couldn't hurt them. As for Harry's robes in the photo...to 
me it looks like a tux and I wish they were emerald green - they look 
black. These are more what I pictured Draco wearing. However, he does 
look rather handsome in them. Still they don't look really wizardlike 
to me. I am really curious now about the girl's dresses - I say 
dresses because I presume they won't be really robes either just like 
the boys. Will Emma - Hermione wear pale blue and have her hair all 
done up? And what will Pavarti and Padma be wearing - didn't they 
match? To think we still have nearly 10 1/2 months to wait. Good 
thing the book comes out in July. But I still will be anxious for the 
film as well. I wish the Leaky Cauldron had a countdown for it too.

Theresa

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Valerie Flowe 
<valerie.flowe at v...> wrote:
> She looks awesome!!! Prettier than I pictured ole Rita, though!
> And what about the recent pic of Ron (and Harry) in their dress 
robes?!!
> C'mon, now! Mrs. Weasley can't be that daft as to expect Ron to wear
> something so preposterous to the ball!!! I found that a bit over 
the top.
> Valerie







From garybec101 at comcast.net  Mon Jan  3 02:02:38 2005
From: garybec101 at comcast.net (garybec)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:02:38 -0000
Subject: [HP Ring Tones)
In-Reply-To: <004801c4f0dd$41ae30f0$f55079a5@leeannlaptop>
Message-ID: <cra93u+q5na@eGroups.com>


Hey Linda'

Go to www.3gupload.com

They have Hedwigs theme, although it is only simple, (one note at a 
time).  I have it on my phone.  It is not free, but cheep. About 6 
bucks for a subscription for 6 months and you can upload unlimited 
ringtones, screensavers, games and wallpaper.

Hope this helps,
Becki


> Hi -- I think I remember someone posting a link to a site where 
you  can
> download ring tones for cell phones that are the music from the 
HP  movies. 
> I'd
> love to use "Hedwig's theme" as my ring tone!!! 
> Lynda







From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jan  3 19:35:06 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:35:06 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP Ring tones
Message-ID: <64.4bc95a83.2f0af86a@aol.com>

thanks to all who have sent info on this!  Keep it  coming!  I'm still 
looking for the "perfect" HP ring tones that will work  on my phone (Motorola) and 
provider (Verizon)!  Someone sent me a link to a  beautiful one but it worked 
on probably everything BUT Verizon, *sigh*  I  just learned Verizon has their 
own site, so I'll check that out (vzpix.com or  vzpics.com -- where you can put 
your own pics and music to put on your Verizon  phone).  Haven't had time to 
do that yet.  
 
.  

Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg,  OoP



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From ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  5 23:07:12 2005
From: ms_petra_pan at yahoo.com (Petra)
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:07:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: wanna be on the nominating committee?
Message-ID: <20050105230712.77639.qmail@web51901.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm pretty sure that y'all will be able to get access but if I'm wrong, 
I'm sorry...  :)

If you are in the mood to cast your votes and participate in determining 
the nominees for Moviefone's 10th Annual Moviegoer Awards this year, see 
if you can use the ballot at

http://movies.channel.aol.com/franchise/moviegoer_awards/nominations.adp

PoA is eligible to be a nominee in several categories, with Emma being 
eligible as best supporting actress.

(Rant alert - Emily Browning of Lemony Snicket is also in this category 
which begs the question: who is she supporting, Jim Carrey?  That may be 
true enough in terms of the business side of the movie, but in the 
storyline, Violet is *not* a supporting character. <oy>)

Petra
a
n  :)


		
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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan  6 03:17:05 2005
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 03:17:05 -0000
Subject: I take it all back!
Message-ID: <criajh+de79@eGroups.com>


Ok, so I was one of the folks who posted ages and ages ago and said I 
wasn't sure if Gary Oldman could be sexy enough to be *my* Sirius 
Black.  He was fantastic as Azkaban-unhinged Sirius, BTW.  But I was 
lookins something up on IMDB.com, and the picture they have as his 
main one, which is from the Scarlet Letter (which I have never seen), 
well, it changed my mind.  Now, when I want to think of what pre-
Azkaban Oldman!Sirius looked like, I will conjure up this picture in 
my head...
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0114345/Ss/0114345/1-7.jpg?
path=pgallery&path_key=Oldman,%20Gary

Thanks for letting me repent!
imamommy






From cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan  6 21:44:43 2005
From: cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com (cultivatepeace2000)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:44:43 -0000
Subject: foreshadowing
In-Reply-To: <cprtqk+3eu8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <crkbgb+pt1p@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at h...> 
wrote:
> 
> There is no way I shall be able to find the reference, but JK 
Rowling 
> once said that Harry's eyes were a weakness, that that's where he 
is 
> vulnerable. Well, he wears glasses and doesn't see very well 
without 
> them. In the whomping willow scene, Harry loses his glasses as he 
> gets pummelled by the tree and his vision i blurred. This does not 
> happen in the book. I could see this as a possible foreshadowing: 
> Harry losing his glasses, or being deprived of them at a crucial 
> moment, perhaps making a grave mistake or being in a life-
> threatenting situation due to blurred vision...
> 
> Sophia

So sorry for the lateness of this reply--I am new to the list (but 
not to HP fandom) and have just read your brilliant theory, Sophia.  
Bravo! I believe that you have caught the golden snitch with this 
theory! Thanks also to whomever (sorry, can't recall your name)  
posted the link to the actual interview in which JKR mentions her 
displeasure at the artwork in the foreign edition, and how they did 
not understand that Harry's glasses are a weakpoint.   

"Harry losing his glasses, or being deprived of them at a crucial 
moment, perhaps making a grave mistake or being in a life-threatening 
situation due to blurred vision"--the idea sends shivers down my 
spine. Perhaps this weakness will play into the likely downfall of 
Dumbledore (master making room for the student to play out his 
destiny), thus cementing Harry's commitment to overthrow Voldemort.

I also have an inkling that the end will be require a concerted team 
effort against Voldemort rather than just Harry alone, so maybe 
losing his glasses will force the others to "step up to the plate", 
and force Harry to accept their help. Everyone against Voldemort--
that would be some final battle.

Thanks for your patience with this newbie post.

CultivatePeace2000










From oneheartway_03 at mugglenet.com  Fri Jan  7 01:41:26 2005
From: oneheartway_03 at mugglenet.com (oneheartway_03 at mugglenet.com)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:41:26 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
Message-ID: <crkpc6+4bp0@eGroups.com>



I don't know if anyone else picked up on these lines, but I'm really 
wondering what type of foreshadowing they might have on future events 
in books/ movies.
The first one is the line stated by Dumbledore in Chamber of Secrets 
when he was in Hagrid's hut.  The line was directed at a (presumably) 
invisable Harry and Ron prior to his leaving the hut.  He said "HELP 
WILL ALWAYS BE GIVEN AT HOGWARTS TO THOSE WHO....ASK FOR IT"
We see some truth to this in the same movie when Harry needs help to 
defeat Riddle and the basalisk and Fawkes appears with the sorting 
hat for Harry to remove the sword of Gryffindor from.
*SPOILER WARNING BOOK 4*
We also see evidence of him receiving help when he needs it when 
Cedric and his parents' spirits come out of the wand during the 
dueling scene in Goblet of Fire and give him instructions on what to 
do and tell him that they will be there long enough for him to do it.

My second line that I question was again stated by Dumbledore, but in 
the Prisoner of Azkaban movie during the welcoming start of term 
speech in the great hall.  He stated that "EVEN IN THE DARKEST OF 
TIMES ONE CAN ALWAYS FIND HOPE, IF ONE SIMPLY REMEMBERS TO TURN ON 
THE LIGHT".  
I don't know yet what that might pertain to, but I'd love to hear 
some feedback on what anyone else thinks about these lines and 
possible foreshadowing!  









From kailincj at msn.com  Fri Jan  7 10:54:01 2005
From: kailincj at msn.com (Gwen)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:54:01 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
In-Reply-To: <crkpc6+4bp0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <crlpo9+ahru@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, oneheartway_03 at m... wrote:
> My second line that I question was again stated by Dumbledore, but 
in 
> the Prisoner of Azkaban movie during the welcoming start of term 
> speech in the great hall.  He stated that "EVEN IN THE DARKEST OF 
> TIMES ONE CAN ALWAYS FIND HOPE, IF ONE SIMPLY REMEMBERS TO TURN ON 
> THE LIGHT".  
> I don't know yet what that might pertain to, but I'd love to hear 
> some feedback on what anyone else thinks about these lines and 
> possible foreshadowing!

I agree.  I couldn't figure out what, exactly, that line had to do 
with dementors or Sirius Black.  It makes sense, now that I think 
about it, that it's one of the "foreshadowing clues" JKR mentioned.  
Come to think of it...

The beginning of movie PoA.  Harry with the wand under the 
covers.  "Lumos maxima" or maxiumus, I'll have to go back and 
recheck the correct spell.  Connection with 'turning on the light', 
do you think?









From cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  7 21:42:21 2005
From: cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com (cultivatepeace2000)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 21:42:21 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
In-Reply-To: <crkpc6+4bp0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <crmvnt+f995@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, oneheartway_03 at m... wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't know if anyone else picked up on these lines, but I'm 
really 
> wondering what type of foreshadowing they might have on future 
events 
> in books/ movies.
> The first one is the line stated by Dumbledore in Chamber of 
Secrets 
> when he was in Hagrid's hut.  The line was directed at a 
(presumably) 
> invisable Harry and Ron prior to his leaving the hut.  He 
said "HELP 
> WILL ALWAYS BE GIVEN AT HOGWARTS TO THOSE WHO....ASK FOR IT"
> We see some truth to this in the same movie when Harry needs help 
to 
> defeat Riddle and the basalisk and Fawkes appears with the sorting 
> hat for Harry to remove the sword of Gryffindor from.
> *SPOILER WARNING BOOK 4*
> We also see evidence of him receiving help when he needs it when 
> Cedric and his parents' spirits come out of the wand during the 
> dueling scene in Goblet of Fire and give him instructions on what 
to 
> do and tell him that they will be there long enough for him to do 
it. 

CultivatePeace2000: 
That line was in the book as well as the movie.  I had always thought 
that it foreshadowed the climactic chamber scene you mentioned above 
rather than anything that would happen in future books/movies.  In 
the book, Harry actually silently pleads for help. In answer, 
Gryffindor's sword appears for him.

oneheartway_03 at m... then wrote:
> My second line that I question was again stated by Dumbledore, but 
in 
> the Prisoner of Azkaban movie during the welcoming start of term 
> speech in the great hall.  He stated that "EVEN IN THE DARKEST OF 
> TIMES ONE CAN ALWAYS FIND HOPE, IF ONE SIMPLY REMEMBERS TO TURN ON 
> THE LIGHT".  
> I don't know yet what that might pertain to, but I'd love to hear 
> some feedback on what anyone else thinks about these lines and 
> possible foreshadowing!

CultivatePeace2000:
That line made me think too. Here again, I thought this quote 
probably was foreshadowing the climax of the film.  Maybe I am taking 
things too literally, but I saw "the darkest time" being the 
dementors' attacks, and "turn on the light" in reference to Harry 
having the resolve to conjure his patronus. 

The statement is such a general saying,though, that it could refer to 
the answer in many "dark" moments--so you may have a point thinking 
that it would foreshadow other future moments.  









From thekrenz at msn.com  Sat Jan  8 19:16:36 2005
From: thekrenz at msn.com (thekrenz)
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:16:36 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
In-Reply-To: <crmvnt+f995@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <crpbik+t2k7@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "cultivatepeace2000" 
<cultivatepeace2000 at y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, oneheartway_03 at m... wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know if anyone else picked up on these lines, but I'm 
> really 
> > wondering what type of foreshadowing they might have on future 
> events 
> > in books/ movies.
> > The first one is the line stated by Dumbledore in Chamber of 
> Secrets 
> > when he was in Hagrid's hut.  The line was directed at a 
> (presumably) 
> > invisable Harry and Ron prior to his leaving the hut.  He 
> said "HELP 
> > WILL ALWAYS BE GIVEN AT HOGWARTS TO THOSE WHO....ASK FOR IT"
> > We see some truth to this in the same movie when Harry needs 
help 
> to 
> > defeat Riddle and the basalisk and Fawkes appears with the 
sorting 
> > hat for Harry to remove the sword of Gryffindor from.
> > *SPOILER WARNING BOOK 4*
> > We also see evidence of him receiving help when he needs it when 
> > Cedric and his parents' spirits come out of the wand during the 
> > dueling scene in Goblet of Fire and give him instructions on 
what 
> to 
> > do and tell him that they will be there long enough for him to 
do 
> it. 
> 
> CultivatePeace2000: 
> That line was in the book as well as the movie.  I had always 
thought 
> that it foreshadowed the climactic chamber scene you mentioned 
above 
> rather than anything that would happen in future books/movies.  In 
> the book, Harry actually silently pleads for help. In answer, 
> Gryffindor's sword appears for him.
> 
> oneheartway_03 at m... then wrote:
> > My second line that I question was again stated by Dumbledore, 
but 
> in 
> > the Prisoner of Azkaban movie during the welcoming start of term 
> > speech in the great hall.  He stated that "EVEN IN THE DARKEST 
OF 
> > TIMES ONE CAN ALWAYS FIND HOPE, IF ONE SIMPLY REMEMBERS TO TURN 
ON 
> > THE LIGHT".  
> > I don't know yet what that might pertain to, but I'd love to 
hear 
> > some feedback on what anyone else thinks about these lines and 
> > possible foreshadowing!
> 
> CultivatePeace2000:
> That line made me think too. Here again, I thought this quote 
> probably was foreshadowing the climax of the film.  Maybe I am 
taking 
> things too literally, but I saw "the darkest time" being the 
> dementors' attacks, and "turn on the light" in reference to Harry 
> having the resolve to conjure his patronus. 
> 
> The statement is such a general saying,though, that it could refer 
to 
> the answer in many "dark" moments--so you may have a point 
thinking 
> that it would foreshadow other future moments.

I was struck by Molly at the train station.  I wonder if at some 
point during "Scabbers'" 12 year stay at the Burrow if Molly may 
have seen him transform into Peter Pettigrew.  She is so adamant 
that Ron not lose Scabbers as she runs along side the Hogwarts 
Express.  
Also, my family were watching SS recently and my hubby pointed out 
some foreshadowing I had never noticed.  When Harry and Ron are late 
for Transfiguration, Prof. McGonagall offers to turn them into a 
pocketwatch (time turner in POA) and the into a map (Maurader's Map 
in POA).  Was that foreshadowing, or just conincidence?
Cyndi






From emhutch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan  9 00:45:18 2005
From: emhutch at sbcglobal.net (Elizabeth Hutchins)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 16:45:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:Moll saw Peter?!?
In-Reply-To: <crpbik+t2k7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050109004518.28253.qmail@web81010.mail.yahoo.com>



thekrenz <thekrenz at msn.com> wrote:
I wonder if at some point during "Scabbers" 12 year stay at the Burrow if Molly may have seen him transform into Peter Pettigrew.
 
What!?! WHY?!?


I wish you well and so I take my leave,
I pray you know me when we meet again
-William Shakespeare



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From ladypensieve at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 04:27:14 2005
From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Kathy)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:27:14 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
In-Reply-To: <crpbik+t2k7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <crvkj2+f63g@eGroups.com>


What about at the end of COS when Harry asks Dobby to make a promise 
to never save his life again?  That's just plain scary.  What if 
Dobby is the only one who can.






From dk59us at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 20:44:31 2005
From: dk59us at yahoo.com (Eustace_Scrubb)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:44:31 -0000
Subject: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
Message-ID: <cs1drf+lgf6@eGroups.com>


I was looking at the IMDB listing for the Goblet of Fire cast and
noticed a couple of things I hadn't before.

Perhaps the most important thing was not there--Ludo Bagman.  That
ought to help us figure out what we _won't_ be seeing.  The
Gred-&-Forge-get-stung-with-Leprechaun-gold-and-try-to-get-even
subplot is probably gone...too bad, but not surprising.  Harry can
still give them his tournament winnings without that.

Also, no Ollivander--darn, I was hoping to see John Hurt again.

No Charlie Weasley--I suppose he's not crucial to the First Task,
cinematically at least.

No Death Eaters except Lucius and Wormtail.  No Frank Bryce.  Wonder
what they're doing with the Little Hangleton scenes.

Parvati's played by a different actress than in PoA.  No Lavendar.  No
Creeveys.

Ernie MacMillan's the same as in CoS (Louis Doyle--most of his part
was cut from the theatrical release of CoS but is in the DVD deleted
scenes.)  Ditto Hannah Abbot (played by Charlotte Skeoch).

Warwick Davis returns as Flitwick after being relegated to "Wizard" in
PoA. (Was he the wizard conducting the student-toad choir?)  No
Trelawney.

Jarvis Cocker, an actual musician, is cast as a member of the Weird
Sisters, so they're in.

Gabrielle Delacour has been cast, which only makes sense if the 2nd
task is covered.

A couple of characters I fail to recognize from the books:
"Nigel," played by William Melling (any relation to Harry Melling aka
Dudley?)
"Bozo," played by Robert Wilfort

Also, "Karkaroff's Aide," played by Tolga Safer...I think Igor did
have an "aide" mentioned in passing in the book, but don't remember
them having anything important to say/do.

Of course, IMDB is not always complete and the filmmakers may yet
announce/add other cast members.  And of course scenes may be cut. 
But some of these anyway give reasonable clues to what's going to be
in.

Anyone else have thoughts about this--or clues to the identity of
Nigel and Bozo?

Cheers,

Eustace_Scrubb






From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 22:09:44 2005
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:09:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <cs1drf+lgf6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050111220944.71438.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Eustace_Scrubb <dk59us at yahoo.com> wrote:

> No Frank Bryce.  Wonder
> what they're doing with the Little Hangleton scenes.

I thought I read somewhere that they're opening with the Quidditch World Cup
campground scene.  If so, they're just skipping the Little Hangleton scene. 
That may also answer your question about who Nigel and Bozo are.  Don't have my
books with me, but were they maybe characters mentioned in passing on the
campground?  A lot of names got thrown around in that scene...

And as you say, IMDB isn't always complete.

Sherry Garfio


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From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 11 22:31:19 2005
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:31:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <20050111220944.71438.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050111223119.93448.qmail@web53201.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Sherry Garfio <sgarfio at yahoo.com> wrote:

> That may also answer your question about who Nigel and Bozo are.  Don't have
> my books with me, but were they maybe characters mentioned in passing on the
> campground?  A lot of names got thrown around in that scene...

Oops, replying to myself while making a mental note to ALWAYS check the
Lexicon:

Bozo 
A paunchy man working as a photographer for the Daily Prophet, Bozo was Rita
Skeeter's co-conspirator during their coverage of the Triwizard Tournament
(GF18,19,24). c.f. photographer for The Daily Prophet (CS4)  

Don't have a clue who Nigel is, though.

Sherry Garfio


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From hickengruendler at yahoo.de  Wed Jan 12 18:47:16 2005
From: hickengruendler at yahoo.de (hickengruendler)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:47:16 -0000
Subject: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <cs1drf+lgf6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cs3rbk+s9qt@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Eustace_Scrubb" <dk59us at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> I was looking at the IMDB listing for the Goblet of Fire cast and
> noticed a couple of things I hadn't before.
> 
> Perhaps the most important thing was not there--Ludo Bagman.  That
> ought to help us figure out what we _won't_ be seeing.  The
> Gred-&-Forge-get-stung-with-Leprechaun-gold-and-try-to-get-even
> subplot is probably gone...too bad, but not surprising.  Harry can
> still give them his tournament winnings without that.
> 
> Also, no Ollivander--darn, I was hoping to see John Hurt again.
> 
> No Charlie Weasley--I suppose he's not crucial to the First Task,
> cinematically at least.
> 
> No Death Eaters except Lucius and Wormtail.  No Frank Bryce.  Wonder
> what they're doing with the Little Hangleton scenes.
> 
> Parvati's played by a different actress than in PoA.  No Lavendar.  
No
> Creeveys.
> 
> Ernie MacMillan's the same as in CoS (Louis Doyle--most of his part
> was cut from the theatrical release of CoS but is in the DVD deleted
> scenes.)  Ditto Hannah Abbot (played by Charlotte Skeoch).
> 
> Warwick Davis returns as Flitwick after being relegated to "Wizard" 
in
> PoA. (Was he the wizard conducting the student-toad choir?)  No
> Trelawney.
> 
> Jarvis Cocker, an actual musician, is cast as a member of the Weird
> Sisters, so they're in.
> 
> Gabrielle Delacour has been cast, which only makes sense if the 2nd
> task is covered.
> 
> A couple of characters I fail to recognize from the books:
> "Nigel," played by William Melling (any relation to Harry Melling 
aka
> Dudley?)
> "Bozo," played by Robert Wilfort
> 
> Also, "Karkaroff's Aide," played by Tolga Safer...I think Igor did
> have an "aide" mentioned in passing in the book, but don't remember
> them having anything important to say/do.
> 
> Of course, IMDB is not always complete and the filmmakers may yet
> announce/add other cast members.  And of course scenes may be cut. 
> But some of these anyway give reasonable clues to what's going to be
> in.
> 
> Anyone else have thoughts about this--or clues to the identity of
> Nigel and Bozo?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Eustace_Scrubb

Hickengruendler:

Bozo is Rita Skeeter's photographer.

The cast list on IMDB is not finale and not official. It is done by 
fans, who have not more informations, than we have. IMDB is a great 
source to look at, once the film is released, but it is unofficial 
and doubtful as long as the shooting is still in progression. 
Characters can be added and deleted from the list at any time. 

For example, there are two characters, who for sure will be in the 
movie, that aren't on the IMDB List: James and Lily Potter.

Hickengruendler






From ursamajr at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 12 19:29:43 2005
From: ursamajr at yahoo.com (Ursamajr)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:29:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <1105554318.327.47411.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050112192943.67700.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com>

unless I am mistaken, Tolga is/has been Daniel
Radcliffe's stunt/body double.

-Adrienne


"Eustace_Scrubb" <dk59us at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also, "Karkaroff's Aide," played by Tolga Safer...I
> think Igor did
> have an "aide" mentioned in passing in the book, but
> don't remember
> them having anything important to say/do.



	
		
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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jan 13 05:49:16 2005
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:49:16 -0000
Subject: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <20050112192943.67700.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cs524s+g76e@eGroups.com>


I think I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that they are
two different actors, the body double and Karkaroff's aid.

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Ursamajr <ursamajr at y...> wrote:
> unless I am mistaken, Tolga is/has been Daniel
> Radcliffe's stunt/body double.
> 
> -Adrienne
> 
> 
> "Eustace_Scrubb" <dk59us at y...> wrote:
> 
> > Also, "Karkaroff's Aide," played by Tolga Safer...I
> > think Igor did
> > have an "aide" mentioned in passing in the book, but
> > don't remember
> > them having anything important to say/do.
> 
> 
> 
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From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 13 14:30:02 2005
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:30:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <cs3rbk+s9qt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050113143002.22969.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>

--- hickengruendler <hickengruendler at yahoo.de> wrote:
> For example, there are two characters, who for sure will be in the 
> movie, that aren't on the IMDB List: James and Lily Potter.

I looked at IMDB's lists for the first 3 movies, and all of them list Adrian
Rawlins	for James and Geraldine Somerville for Lily (it also states that they
are uncredited).  Hopefully they will keep these two.  I looked up their names
as well, and it lists the first 3 films for each of them but not GoF.  We'll
just have to wait and see - a skill that JKR has taught us very well!

Sherry Garfio


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From cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 14 15:30:07 2005
From: cultivatepeace2000 at yahoo.com (cultivatepeace2000)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:30:07 -0000
Subject: GoF--Minor Casting Questions
In-Reply-To: <cs524s+g76e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cs8ohv+ak6b@eGroups.com>


Yes, I remember reading that Karkaroff's aide and Daniel Radcliffe's 
double were different people too.  If I remember correctly, Daniel 
Radcliffe's double is named Tolga Keenan (or something like that).

CultivatePeace2000

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> 
> I think I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that they are
> two different actors, the body double and Karkaroff's aid.
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Ursamajr <ursamajr at y...> wrote:
> > unless I am mistaken, Tolga is/has been Daniel
> > Radcliffe's stunt/body double.
> > 
> > -Adrienne
> > 
> > 
> > "Eustace_Scrubb" <dk59us at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, "Karkaroff's Aide," played by Tolga Safer...I
> > > think Igor did
> > > have an "aide" mentioned in passing in the book, but
> > > don't remember
> > > them having anything important to say/do.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 18 23:17:16 2005
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:17:16 -0000
Subject: Possible clues in movie lines?
In-Reply-To: <crkpc6+4bp0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <csk5ds+a4g0@eGroups.com>


oneheartway_03 at m... wrote:
> 
The first one is the line stated by Dumbledore in Chamber of Secrets
when he was in Hagrid's hut. The line was directed at a (presumably)
invisable Harry and Ron prior to his leaving the hut. He said "HELP
WILL ALWAYS BE GIVEN AT HOGWARTS TO THOSE WHO....ASK FOR IT"
We see some truth to this in the same movie when Harry needs help to
defeat Riddle and the basalisk and Fawkes appears with the sorting
hat for Harry to remove the sword of Gryffindor from.

This line made no sense to my friend (who hasn't read the books but 
has seen the films).  We don't even see the truth to it in the film.  
I told her that in the book, Harry actually puts the Sorting Hat on 
his head and literally asks someone to help him.  Then the sword hits 
him on the head.

Marci






From ladypensieve at yahoo.com  Fri Jan 21 18:39:54 2005
From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Kathy)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:39:54 -0000
Subject: Ron's Robes
Message-ID: <csri9q+gb7u@eGroups.com>


In case anyone hasn't seen the picture yet...omg...Ron's robes look 
even more dreadful than I'd imagined.  Go to Leaky Cauldron to see 
the awful truth!  Harry looks as if he's in a tux, and Ron... - poor 
Ron!  Where's magic when you need it!!!!!  Wonder if the house elves 
could have done something about that if they'd asked.

Kathy






From bree4378 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 22 03:50:31 2005
From: bree4378 at yahoo.com (Sabrina)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:50:31 -0000
Subject: GoF - Will Second Task Scene be Included?
Message-ID: <cssii7+2buu@eGroups.com>


Hi everyone.  I just wanted to say WOW!  I just read the second task 
chapter of GoF, and I must say, I was able to picture the whole scene 
in my head.  My own immagination often gets the better of me, so I 
can just imagine what the scene will be like on the big screen.  I 
was also wondering if anyone knows what actor will be playing Victor 
Krum in the movie?






From ladypensieve at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 22 06:26:55 2005
From: ladypensieve at yahoo.com (Kathy)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:26:55 -0000
Subject: GoF - Will Second Task Scene be Included?
In-Reply-To: <cssii7+2buu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <cssrnf+4o9o@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Sabrina" <bree4378 at y...> wrote:
> 
I was also wondering if anyone knows what actor will be playing 
Victor Krum in the movie?>>>

Stanislav Ianevski

You can go to IMDB to find out casting info on Goblet of Fire.

Kathy






From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat Jan 22 23:10:25 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:10:25 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] GoF - Will Second Task Scene be included?
Message-ID: <12d.545d31be.2f243761@aol.com>


Yes, the Second Task took over a month to film.  Dan Radcliffe  had a photo 
taken of him and the twenty or so crew members who helped him with  the 
filming, all underwater, and he added antlers and red "Rudolph" noses to  them, and 
sent that as his Christmas card.  You should probably  still be able to see it 
on _www.danradcliffe.com_ (http://www.danradcliffe.com) .  It was very  cute!  
I can't wait for this movie -- the Second Task was my  favorite!  I can't 
wait to see how they manage it all!  

Lynda

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From imamommy at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jan 23 06:07:36 2005
From: imamommy at sbcglobal.net (elady25)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:07:36 -0000
Subject: Calendar Pictures
Message-ID: <csvev8+pecr@eGroups.com>


Just wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to see, and comment 
on, the new pictures from the 2006 HP calendar.  Mugglenet and Leaky 
Cauldron both have them.  

imamommy






From alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jan 23 20:13:21 2005
From: alshainofthenorth at yahoo.co.uk (alshainofthenorth)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:13:21 -0000
Subject: Calendar Pictures
In-Reply-To: <csvev8+pecr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ct10h1+a8p4@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "elady25" <imamommy at s...> wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to see, and comment 
> on, the new pictures from the 2006 HP calendar.  Mugglenet and 
Leaky 
> Cauldron both have them.  
> 
> imamommy

I for my part am quite pleased with them. Though now I know what it's 
like to be caught in a time loop from a lot of the comments in the 
fandom.

"Eeww, Viktor Krum looks nothing like I pictured him! I thought he'd 
be much cuter, this guy's gonna suck!"

I thought the point with the HP series was that the fans could grow 
up with the books?

Alshain the frustrated


  






From caseylane at wideopenwest.com  Mon Jan 24 17:54:16 2005
From: caseylane at wideopenwest.com (Casey)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:54:16 -0000
Subject: Calendar Pictures
In-Reply-To: <ct10h1+a8p4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ct3co8+ordg@eGroups.com>


 
> "Eeww, Viktor Krum looks nothing like I pictured him! I thought 
he'd 
> be much cuter, this guy's gonna suck!"
> 
> I thought the point with the HP series was that the fans could 
grow 
> up with the books?
> 
> Alshain the frustrated

Hey, I think the guy playing Viktor Krum is much better looking than 
I pictured. I'm excited to see him hit on Hermione. And Ron's robes? 
Poor baby.

Casey, the shallow.






From anmsmom333 at cox.net  Mon Jan 24 19:52:13 2005
From: anmsmom333 at cox.net (Theresa)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:52:13 -0000
Subject: Krum (was: Calendar Pictures)
In-Reply-To: <ct10h1+a8p4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ct3jld+ur4o@eGroups.com>


> "Eeww, Viktor Krum looks nothing like I pictured him! I thought 
he'd 
> be much cuter, this guy's gonna suck!"
> 
> I thought the point with the HP series was that the fans could grow 
> up with the books?
> 
> Alshain the frustrated

Oh, I don't know. I never thought Krum was supposed to be some 
gorgeous hunk. From the books I always picture a rather athletic boy 
with a prominent nose and forehead. Don't remember exactly what it 
says in the GOF but I didn't think he was a pretty boy like Cedric 
but an athlete and that was why the girls followed him around. I 
guess this young man is pretty similar to what a pictured. Not really 
a hunk but not really unattractive either. The actor appears to be 
physically fit, has an honest face and IMHO is not unattractive so I 
think he will be fine. He has that viking look about him which is 
really how I pictured the Durmstrang students.

Theresa






From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Jan 24 20:59:42 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:59:42 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Calendar pictures
Message-ID: <27.6a66a371.2f26bbbe@aol.com>

I thought, from reading canon, that Krum was a hooked-nose,  duck-footed guy 
who glowered and wasn't very attractive.  This actor is  rather cute!  Ah 
well.  You have to wonder what goes through the  casting agent's mind at times, 
right?  
 
Poor Ron -- those robes are hideous!  WHAT was Molly  thinking?!  The look on 
his face is priceless!  Harry looks great in  his, but he looks nearly as ill 
as Ron at the prospect of going to the dance  with -- gasp! -- *girls*!  
heehee

I really enjoyed all the pictures and can't wait for more!  

Lynda

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From bree4378 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 26 02:08:18 2005
From: bree4378 at yahoo.com (Sabrina)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 02:08:18 -0000
Subject: Victor Krum Pic
Message-ID: <ct6u2i+opis@eGroups.com>



I think Victor looks pretty good considering the way he has been 
described in the book.  He is supposed to be "surly" with a big nose 
and not that good looking (according to Hermione).  I think he will 
do fine in the role.  I also found on another website, a blurb about 
Stanislav and Emma are to kiss in the movie.  This wasn't in the book 
though. 









From jsummerill at summerillj.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Jan 26 23:02:55 2005
From: jsummerill at summerillj.freeserve.co.uk (jotwo2003)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:02:55 -0000
Subject: The birds and bats
Message-ID: <ct97iv+fkqp@eGroups.com>



IIRC in the POA film we see crows and bats.

I think the crows were in the pumpkin patch by Hagrid's hut and they 
fly into the air when we hear the fall of the axe and think Buckbeak 
has been executed. 

I think we see a flock of bats fly past Hr and H when they have 
travelled back in time and are watching themselves from the forest.

Are there any other occasions where we see bats or crows?  Also do we 
really see the bats flying and then see Snape going into the willow? 
I read somewhere that we do.

I'd be really grateful for help with this.

Jo









From blackgold101 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 27 16:17:02 2005
From: blackgold101 at yahoo.com (Marci)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:17:02 -0000
Subject: The birds and bats
In-Reply-To: <ct97iv+fkqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ctb45u+t9t3@eGroups.com>


"jotwo2003" <jsummerill at s...> wrote:
> 
> 
> IIRC in the POA film we see crows and bats.
> 
> I think the crows were in the pumpkin patch by Hagrid's hut and 
they 
> fly into the air when we hear the fall of the axe and think 
Buckbeak 
> has been executed. 
> 
> I think we see a flock of bats fly past Hr and H when they have 
> travelled back in time and are watching themselves from the forest.
> 
> Are there any other occasions where we see bats or crows?  Also do 
we 
> really see the bats flying and then see Snape going into the 
willow? 
> I read somewhere that we do.
> 
> I'd be really grateful for help with this.
> 
> Jo

Bats can be seen in the first movie in Quirrell's classroom.  I only 
really noticed that on my millionth viewing of it this past weekend.  
LOL

Marci






From sgarfio at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 27 17:57:27 2005
From: sgarfio at yahoo.com (Sherry Garfio)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:57:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The birds and bats
In-Reply-To: <ct97iv+fkqp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <20050127175727.46281.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com>

--- jotwo2003 <jsummerill at summerillj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> IIRC in the POA film we see crows and bats.
> 
> I think the crows were in the pumpkin patch by Hagrid's hut and they 
> fly into the air when we hear the fall of the axe and think Buckbeak 
> has been executed. 

I think they're actually ravens, which are a symbol of death.  We also see them
congregating around McNair sitting in the courtyard sharpening his axe.

> I think we see a flock of bats fly past Hr and H when they have 
> travelled back in time and are watching themselves from the forest.

Yes, and we also see them the first time through the time loop when they first
come out of the hole, when Sirius is talking to Harry and recalling the first
time he saw Hogwarts castle.  This actually helps tie the two timelines
together, because they fly past time-turned H & Hr on their way toward the
castle.  I remember reading an interview where Dan mentioned that the bats were
really cool, except that they pee while they fly.  Ewww.  At least we know they
used real bats!

Sherry Garfio


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Jan 27 22:11:18 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:11:18 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] the birds and the bats
Message-ID: <62.4d5dd826.2f2ac106@aol.com>

If you have the DVD, go to the "Care of Magical Creatures" spot on  the 
Marauder's Map (second disk) and watch the features there on how they  trained the 
animals.  Yes, they're ravens.  The bats are real bats and  were easier to 
work with than the owls, one trainer said.  The owls only  want to hunt -- 
they're killing machines.  The bats were easier to do  things with, and Cuaron liked 
them so well, he added them to many scenes  (they're inside Hagrid's hut when 
the kids are there before the execution, for  instance -- that's one place 
they were added).

What I'd like to know is, what kind of creature was that  supposed to be in 
the basket (the one Hagrid covered up)!  It was too cute  to be a Blast-Ended 
Skrewt!
 
Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg,  OoP


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Jan 28 15:57:30 2005
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:57:30 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The birds and bats
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From: Sherry Garfio <sgarfio at yahoo.com>
I remember reading an interview where Dan mentioned that the bats were
really cool, except that they pee while they fly.  Ewww.  At least we know
they
used real bats!

Sherry Garfio

Maybe that's why time-turned H & HR duck when they are at the edge of the
forest and all those bats fly out. They were ducking for real in case they
got "squirted"!!!
That must have been distracting for the actors, though, to have bats flying
around your head; especially in close confines like Hagrid's hut!

Val



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From krussell98 at comcast.net  Fri Jan 28 22:51:11 2005
From: krussell98 at comcast.net (Kathi Russell)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:51:11 -0500
Subject: commentary?
References: <1106938700.2080.53795.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <02fd01c5058b$dce538d0$3f8f3f44@Dude>



Okay - I know I"m WAY behind, but I've just sat down to watch POA, and I 
can't find the commentaries. Am I blind???  Where are they? There HAS to be 
commentary -  no respectable DVD is produced nowadays without  at least 
ONE.......  HELP!!  I  Love the commentaries..
ladyKat








From sophiamcl at hotmail.com  Sat Jan 29 08:56:04 2005
From: sophiamcl at hotmail.com (sophiamcl)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:04 -0000
Subject: commentary?
In-Reply-To: <02fd01c5058b$dce538d0$3f8f3f44@Dude>
Message-ID: <ctfj34+4eci@eGroups.com>


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kathi Russell" <krussell98 at c...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Okay - I know I"m WAY behind, but I've just sat down to watch POA, 
and I 
> can't find the commentaries. Am I blind???  Where are they? There 
HAS to be 
> commentary -  no respectable DVD is produced nowadays without  at 
least 
> ONE.......  HELP!!  I  Love the commentaries..

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no commentary, 
to the great chagrin of adult HP-fans the world over... I agree with 
you, any respectable DVD should have one... I believe one of the 
reasons there isn't one is Cuaron's unwillingness to create one, and 
the block-headedness of WB. Maybe next time around, if we're lucky.

Sophia






From krussell98 at comcast.net  Sun Jan 30 02:26:46 2005
From: krussell98 at comcast.net (Kathi Russell)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:26:46 -0500
Subject: commentary
References: <1107022282.1579.25732.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <043201c50673$255636e0$3f8f3f44@Dude>


      
>   Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:04 -0000
>   From: "sophiamcl" <sophiamcl at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: commentary?
> 
> 
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kathi Russell" <krussell98 at c...> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Okay - I know I"m WAY behind, but I've just sat down to watch POA, 
> and I 
>> can't find the commentaries. Am I blind???  Where are they? There 
> HAS to be 
>> commentary -  no respectable DVD is produced nowadays without  at 
> least 
>> ONE.......  HELP!!  I  Love the commentaries..
> 
> I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no commentary, 
> to the great chagrin of adult HP-fans the world over... I agree with 
> you, any respectable DVD should have one... I believe one of the 
> reasons there isn't one is Cuaron's unwillingness to create one, and 
> the block-headedness of WB. Maybe next time around, if we're lucky.
> 
> Sophia
> 
> 


Okay - thanks Sophia - at least I know I'm not going crazy now......  







From jabels at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 04:25:47 2005
From: jabels at gmail.com (Jason M Abels)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:25:47 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?
In-Reply-To: <ctfj34+4eci@eGroups.com>
References: <02fd01c5058b$dce538d0$3f8f3f44@Dude> <ctfj34+4eci@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <de069f720501292025746012a@mail.gmail.com>


On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:04 -0000, sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no commentary,
> to the great chagrin of adult HP-fans the world over... I agree with
> you, any respectable DVD should have one... I believe one of the
> reasons there isn't one is Cuaron's unwillingness to create one, and
> the block-headedness of WB. Maybe next time around, if we're lucky.

Also, remember that the actors don't really have the time for a
commentary, as they've been working fairly steadily on the films (and
of course going to school as well).

Better no commentary than an unwilling commentary. Those are torture.

-- 
Jason M. Abels






From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sun Jan 30 10:08:23 2005
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 05:08:23 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?
In-Reply-To: <de069f720501292025746012a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE221C47.A62%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>

Pardon my ignorance, but by commentary, do you mean when the actors and
director are talking over the movie while it's playing? I hate that! I find
it distracting. Even though I know there is also the movie on the DVD
without the commentary, it's kinda disturbing.
But then again...I watched LOTR with commentary, and thought it was pretty
interesting when "Frodo-Elijah" pointed out his sister in one of the scenes.
She's gorgeous...how can a family have such beautiful kids? But I
digress...so basically I just negated my first comment. I guess commentaries
have their place and I have to be in the mood for it...carry on!  :-)
Val

From: Jason M Abels <jabels at gmail.com>
Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:25:47 -0500
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?



On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:04 -0000, sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no commentary,
> to the great chagrin of adult HP-fans the world over... I agree with
> you, any respectable DVD should have one... I believe one of the
> reasons there isn't one is Cuaron's unwillingness to create one, and
> the block-headedness of WB. Maybe next time around, if we're lucky.

Also, remember that the actors don't really have the time for a
commentary, as they've been working fairly steadily on the films (and
of course going to school as well).

Better no commentary than an unwilling commentary. Those are torture.

-- 
Jason M. Abels





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From ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com  Sun Jan 30 10:37:29 2005
From: ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com (ozorbust.2426283 at bloglines.com)
Date: 30 Jan 2005 10:37:29 -0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?
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--- Jason M Abels <jabels at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, remember that the
actors don't really have the time for a
> commentary, as they've been working
fairly steadily on the films (and
> of course going to school as well).

Surely it doesn't take much longer to record a commentary than it does to
watch the film itself. It shouldn't be too difficult to find a spare 3-4 hours
in their schedule. Other busy A-list actors do it all the time. It's more
likely that Warner Brothers just hadn't considered it.

Manda
--
http://www.jenesaisoz.com



From sherriola at earthlink.net  Sun Jan 30 14:34:23 2005
From: sherriola at earthlink.net (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:34:23 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?
In-Reply-To: <BE221C47.A62%valerie.flowe@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <004401c506d8$cb957740$0400a8c0@pensive>

I really like commentaries.  If I've already seen the movie, I just consider
the commentaries as an informational thing.  Well, I am blind, so with
people talking over he movie, obviously, I'm getting nothing out of it!  But
I love to hear what the actors and directors say.  I love the actors'
commentaries for LOTR.  I first discovered commentaries with the movie
Apollo 13, when I managed to bring it up by accident, playing the DVD on my
computer.  You know, DVD menus are usually completely inaccessible for blind
people.  But I was so impressed with the amount of work Ron Howard and his
staff did to ensure accuracy in telling the story of Apollo 13, that I
became quite a fan of commentaries.  That is, when I can grab a sighted
person to get them started for me!

Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Flowe [mailto:valerie.flowe at verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:08 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?



Pardon my ignorance, but by commentary, do you mean when the actors and
director are talking over the movie while it's playing? I hate that! I find
it distracting. Even though I know there is also the movie on the DVD
without the commentary, it's kinda disturbing.
But then again...I watched LOTR with commentary, and thought it was pretty
interesting when "Frodo-Elijah" pointed out his sister in one of the scenes.
She's gorgeous...how can a family have such beautiful kids? But I
digress...so basically I just negated my first comment. I guess commentaries
have their place and I have to be in the mood for it...carry on!  :-)
Val

From: Jason M Abels <jabels at gmail.com>
Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:25:47 -0500
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: commentary?



On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:04 -0000, sophiamcl <sophiamcl at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no commentary,
> to the great chagrin of adult HP-fans the world over... I agree with
> you, any respectable DVD should have one... I believe one of the
> reasons there isn't one is Cuaron's unwillingness to create one, and
> the block-headedness of WB. Maybe next time around, if we're lucky.

Also, remember that the actors don't really have the time for a
commentary, as they've been working fairly steadily on the films (and
of course going to school as well).

Better no commentary than an unwilling commentary. Those are torture.

-- 
Jason M. Abels





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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Jan 30 23:22:05 2005
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:22:05 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] commentaries
Message-ID: <36.6b54dd47.2f2ec61d@aol.com>

I just LOVE commentaries, especially by the actors.  I love to  hear the 
actor's behind the scenes stories, the jokes they pull on each other,  and the 
interaction between them on some commentaries are such fun!  I  loved the LoTR 
commentary when "Merry" and "Pippin" were teasing each other --  they sounded 
just like their characters, and it was great fun!  I'd love to  hear the same 
kind of commentary from the trio and the director on the HP  films.  That would 
be fabulous!  Does anyone have the right contact  info for who to write at WB 
to ask for that?  If enough of us ask for it,  maybe they'll do it.  It would 
only take the time it takes to watch the  movie for the actors, then more 
editing time for somebody, I suppose --  maybe.  And yes, Elijah Wood's sister is 
beautiful, isn't she?  Yikes,  what great genes in THAT pool!
 
 
Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now." Mrs. Figg,  OoP


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