[HPFGU-Movie] Re: What I would have done...REVISITED!

[Karen]

On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 07:15 PM, susanbones2003 wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "kchuplis" <kchuplis at a...> wrote:
>
>  On the other list, there is a hot debate going on
> (well, maybe not hot but very interesting!) that Harry doesn't show
> enough emotion in the books over the deaths he has to face, but that
> would be easily argued in the films. Death is messy, not easy to
> talk about but we needed more evidence that Harry had gone through a
> nightmarish experience. Would you have Harry in the hospital but no
> dialog? Just DD explaining to the whole school? Sort of a tableau?

I can picture the eulogy scene with Ron and Hermione there and paralell 
editing in of Harry in the hospital ward with DD's eulogy being heard 
over it all. Picture the hall, DD's words, cut to Harry staring, 
thinking, Molly sitting there by his bedside, but she thinks he is 
sleeping, his back to her, but we see him thinking, cut back to the 
hall, panning in on Ron and Hermione, cut back to Harry, finally 
succumbing  to sleep as eulogy finishes (If there is one thing Dan 
Radcliffe does *really* well it's let you know what is going on in his 
head without saying a word), fade to Harry in the tower dorm with DD.

> Jen again,
> I thought at turns that Harry's almost chipper reply to Hermy was
> either just the right touch or horribly out of context. I think he,
> yes, he should have been a bit more on the thoughtful side.

I think I'd be just fine with that, if (IMO this was the "out of 
context" thing) they had snipped that darned dialogue about writing 
each other. They could have then gotten (again,IMO) more mileage out of 
Harry saying Hagrid's bit about "we just have to face what comes". Just 
a bit more solemnity would have been nice. I personally think the suits 
probably didn't want the ending too "down" and that accounts for the 
tone of that bit.

>  But not
> hopeless. Someone who used to write here but has left our number
> said once that he (hint about who it was!) was just thankful that
> Hagrid didn't utter the "We'll meet it when it comes..." line. I'm
> not so sure. That line could have been uttered by an adult with
> faith in DD and done with believability. Harry doesn't have the
> history to utter that sort of thing. He has no idea how bad it was
> before. I would have liked to have that line remain.

I think it could have worked with Harry. After all, the line he has is 
the rework of Hagrid's dialogue. I think it especially could have 
worked if, as I described above, we had seen Harry spending that time 
in the Hospital ward. I mean, we are talking barely adding seconds (and 
actually not adding if you are clipping some of the other dialogue I 
talked about) to the running time. Ah well. What might have been :D
>
>
> For all Chris's faults, he gave us an ending on both his films and I
> will admit unashamedly that I liked most of his choices. Don't flame
> me but I could have done without the little Jason Issacs/Dan
> repartee but that's just me.
> Jen


Oo. I really liked that. In CoS you mean? Well, actually, Jason Issacs 
is so delightfully slimy in an elegant way, I don't like the idea of 
cutting anything he has done. I also think that you need the bit in the 
beginning of GoF, because, I don't know how really well it will stick 
with people that he was in the graveyard otherwise (Feinnes is 
SOOOOOOOO overwhelmingly evil in that scene that it's really indelibly 
left in your head and the DE's are a little occluded). I really like 
the punch in the gut you get when Harry first sees him again in OoTP. 
We need that background for the movies too.

kchuplis