SB/RL ship in OOtP- was: Oldman and Thewlis

Lindsay!! DANCERWH86 at aol.com
Tue Feb 14 20:57:22 UTC 2006


Theresa wrote:

<<<<Well said Lindsay! I would have to agree whole heartedly with you. I 
> have never understood what others say is this romantic undertone 
> between these two characters. I have had many friends who and men 
> that have wonderful relationships with other men. My husband and his 
> best friends are rather close and none of them would even think of 
> being intimate with a man. They just act like brothers but not by 
> blood. That is how I pictured James/Sirius/Remus and yes Peter while 
> they were at school and shortly after. I think that is why Peter's 
> betrayal was both shocking and extremely painful. These four boys 
> were as close as could be - not romantically but true powerful 
> friendship that is beyond measure. It is like two of my male friends 
> (who are such good friends with one another) always say when they 
> greet one another - "Hey my brother of a different mother!" That is 
> my 2 knuts on this subject.>>>>

Well, firstly, thanks! lol...I'm glad you agree. I think it's partly a
social stigma that that kind of a relationship with the platonic
intimacy is more readily accepted between girls. I mean girls hold
hands, hug, kiss etc...and it's just girls being girls. So I think we
see Remus and Sirius being that kind of close and assume it has to be
something more. But yeah I have male friends too who remind them of me
and even my brother and his friends who have that My brother from a
different mother kind of view of their relationship. I don't see a
relationship there though beyond that. It even goes with that whole
idea of "Bros before Hoes" (and no I'm not suggesting that all women
are hoes...Don't want to set anyone off...It's just a saying). A lot
of guys put male/male FRIENDSHIPS ahead of everything else. And I
think that's can kind of sum up Sirius and Remus too. There friendship
is more important than a lot of things. Plus in POA lets not forget
they haven't seen each other in years and Remus is just coming to know
Sirius is innocent. There are a lot of feelings/emotions that are
going to go with that that don't prove romantic feelings between them
or unrequited love.

Theresa wrote:
<<<> Also, I hope Gary is back because I thought he was wonderful as 
> Sirius and have always loved his work so I cannot wait to see him in 
> freak out mode at Grimmauld Place. I can picture him doing a "One Who 
> Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" expression with his eyes. Hope he doesn't 
> get too greedy asking for money so they have to choose someone else. 
> That would be a shame. But on the same token I hope WB doesn't get 
> all cheap on us. I long to hear Gary say the lines "I see you've met 
> my mother" and "and it's getting blacker every day.">>> 

I, too, can just picture him. He plays unstable/crazy so well that I
wold love to see him in this film. At this point I don't think it's
necessarily greed so much as business (but I don't know what he's
asking for either). I recently attended a lecture about kind of the
legal/business aspects of film (I'm studying film at school) and the
speaker reiterated some things I've heard actors and filmmakers talk
about. It seems like actors are being greedy when they ask for more
money on some projects and sometimes they are, but other times they
are just trying to get competitive money so that they can continue to
work in the industry and get the money they deserve. That's why actors
will make the occasional art picture, but then keep going after big
money at other times. If Gary does Harry Potter for a sum under his
usual fee (especially when it's a movie that's sure to turn a profit)
then Warner Brothers might think well he can take the smaller fee on
Batman or the next big budget movie we want him in. So I'll give him
the benefit of the doubt there for now. I will be disappointed if it
doesn't work out though. I do think he is perfect.

Lindsay







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