dark films/other bits

[susanbones2003]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Karen <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 04:58 PM, susanbones2003 wrote:

> kchuplis:
> 
> I agree *Harry* is not getting darker but the story is no longer 
about 
> scary Halloween moments. Perhaps, rather than "darker" I should 
say 
> that maybe the studio is wising up that it is OK to portray the 
gravity 
> of the situation. The books increase in gravity as Harry 1) 
experiences 
> worse things and 2) realizes the wider implications of these 
events. 
> They lost their nerve in the last scene to keep the gravity Harry 
> deserved.
> 
> I have also noticed something else I wanted to point out that has 
been 
> interesting me in all the films. There appears to have been some 
hints 
> dropped to the film makers about characters future paths. I 
remember 
> being taken aback by Hermiones discomfort at the end of CoS in 
hugging 
> Ron (or rather, mutual discomfort) which seemed to speak of a big 
> difference in how Hermione and Ron relate to each other. I checked 
the 
> book the next time I read it an there just was not really anything 
to 
> suggest this. Then in PoA, there is a moment when Buckbeak is 
> introduced to Harry that Hermione grabs Rons hand and he is 
startled, 
> again that odd foreshadowing of a "different" relationship than 
with 
> her other friends. I check PoA the next time I read it and really 
found 
> no hint of that. Of course, we all know that by GoF and the big 
Yule 
> storyline that it was obvious where things were heading but 
definitely, 
> IMO, the filmakers had a big heads up there or we wouldn't have 
seen 
> those little moments in the previous three movies. Or did I just 
miss 
> that in those books the first several times reading them? I'm 
curious 
> as to what others think.

Jen interjects here:
You know, we all were pretty sure where H/R were headed. But as per 
usual JKR was much more subtle. She'd have the two bickering in a 
remarkably similar way to Ron's parents. She'd have Hermione fuss 
over Ron in a gently suggestive manner. Nothing as overt as the 
films. The film makers couldn't be as subtle as JKR I am supposing. 
But don't doubt that most people were very convinced that there was 
something between the two. It wasn't a surprise. But something 
happened in POA-film, JKR remarked, something that foreshadowed what 
is to come, my suspicion is relationship-wise, that was not even 
hinted at in the books. I wish I knew what that was. She's awfully 
hard to follow with her clues. I am hoping the Diary being a horcrux 
was the only big clue in COS because she's always said COS almost 
gave the whole thing away...
> 
> It makes me wonder what else we have actually been seeing in the 
movies 
> in a slightly different light, maybe more subtle that are 
preplants of 
> info on where characters are headed. George and Fred are certainly 
> given a much larger share of the limelight in GoF which makes me 
> hopeful that the great escape will be included in OoTP, but also, 
I've 
> always felt they will be important in the denouement of book 
seven. The 
> more screen time they get, the more I think this is going to pan 
out. 
> It always has seemed that their level of magic has been slowly 
coming 
> to be admired as better than average and their ability to scheme 
is 
> certainly a possible useful tool for Harry. Any thoughts?

Jen again,
I personally go back and forth about the twins. I was thrilled, just 
over the moon about their screen time in GOF. I give props to Mike 
Newell for letting them have so many opportunities to display their 
talents. I just know that MN will include their escape. It's too 
brilliant. As for their involvement in Book 7, I am seriously 
afeared they'll be the object of LV's side-plotting. Where's 
Olivander? Their magic is seriously good and could easily be used 
for evil. I worry that the next film has so much ground to make up 
for, in the lack of foreshadowing in GOF. Sirius has some serious 
character development to get on top of. We hardly know him via film. 
And now he's got to be sullen and withdrawn. Not fair. Your piece 
about character development should include how to make up for all 
the deficits.
Jen D