[HPFGU-Movie]Shorthand in Film

[susanbones2003]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
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>      Sandy responds:
> First off, I am new to the HPFGU lists and am trying very hard to 
get used to 
> the protocol. I love the lists but the rules can be overwhelming, 
and I just 
> sent a post off without the proper heading. I'm hoping, too, that 
this is only 
> my third post and not fourth. Bear with me elves, I'm trying. At 
any rate, a 
> few responses to Lauren'e post. I have already said that GOF is my 
least 
> favorite movie. I really missed John Williams score. I felt the 
least they could 
> have done was stick with the opening theme music. I have the 
soundtrack from SS 
> and listen to it constantly. I just love it. I will agree with you 
about the 
> Beauxbaton entrance but I loved the Durmstrang entrance. I really 
liked the 
> music, loved it when the sparks flew when they hit the floor with 
their sticks, 
> and thought the ring of fire was awesome. I agree with you too, 
THANK GAWD we 
> didn't have to listen to the Hogwarts song OR the entire version 
of "Do the 
> Hippogriff". As for Fleur: Clemence Posey was all wrong. I stated 
on another list 
> that the girl who will be playing Luna would have made a much 
better Fleur. 
> On the other hand, I thought Stan was perfect as Krum. There are 
many things 
> about the movie that I like, but as a whole I was very 
disappointed with it. 
> 
> Out of curiosity, what did you all think of the way they showed 
Sirius? What 
> was up with his face being embedded in the coals? If he hadn't 
been in the 
> credits I would never have known that was Gary Oldman. Why didn't 
they show his 
> face in the fireplace surrounded by green flames? I have said 
jokingly that it 
> is no wonder Gary Oldman hasn't signed to do Phoenix yet 
considering the 
> pathetic, dismal way they used him in GOF.
> 
> Sandy (who hopefully did it right this time and has had her three 
posts for 
> today)
> 
>Hi Sandy,
Welcome to the list. Don't worry too much about following all the 
rules. The elves are pretty cool and really just want to make the 
list a welcoming place. You'll be fine!

First, I think I had my real disillusionment with the films after 
seeing POA. All over this list people were saying how wonderful, how 
imaginative it was. I was left feeling like I hadn't seen the same 
movie. I have made effort to get my head into it and I am not 
thrilled with the film but I do see the artistry and creativity in 
it. My main problem was and remains that the director didn't use the 
source very much at all it seems. He took the idea of the story and 
seemed to build his own idea of Harry to the point that it had very 
little to do with the Harry I knew. I bring this up because I think 
coming to terms with how the movies are made is an important step in 
enjoying MovieHarry. 

First, Sandy, say to yourself, there are two Harrys. The Harry from 
the book and the Harry up there on the screen. There are two worlds 
too. The WW in the book is a lot more fun than the one on the screen 
because we get to see so much of it. And it makes more sense. You 
get to read about the effect of the velas on Harry and Ron! You get 
to read about Harry meeting Sirius, Sirius' hands on Harry's 
shoulders as he tells them about seeing LV rise again. Molly's hug. 
Many many wonderful moments you will never get to see on screen 
because time is the enemy of film. So, I am serious, once this fact 
becomes settled to you, then I know you can enjoy GOF for what it 
is. In any adaptation, compromises must be made. Why not John 
Williams, I don't know either. But story choices were made and I 
think they are not accidental. Calculated might be too stong a word, 
but this is Warner Bro. we are talking about so I am not going to 
rule it out. Those of us who are excited about GOF know it didn't 
come close to the book, but as an HP movie, it came closer to the 
spirit of Harry. Rant, make lists, ask rhetorical questions 
like "why did they do that goofy coal-face?" and all. We can take 
it. But at the end of the day, try to put the book out of your mind 
and probably the first 3 movies and see what there is to enjoy about 
the product they actually gave us. That's the best advice I can give 
you! Again, welcome to the list!
Jen D.