Standing corrected..shout, Shout!, SHOUT! and more.

[Steve]

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "susanbones2003" <rkdas at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
> I mentioned earlier that Richard didn't think Dan could pull off 
> a "CAPSLOCK Harry" and then I went hunting for what I remembered
> him writing and OOOPS! He had the same reason as me! 
> Read below:
> 
> Richard wrote in message# 11748
> "The main reason I'd like a limit on Capslock!Harry is similar:
> I  simply don't think Dan can pull off Harry being seriously 
> unlikeable without undermining the viewers' sympathy. Much as 
> readers are encouraged to dislike Harry's excesses during the 
> book, we understand part of what he's going through and empathise
> with his predicament. If his energy and rage is less petulant, 
> he can still be a believable teenager without alienating the 
> audience."
> 
> ...
> 
> Jen Das promising not to bring up or quote anyone no longer 
> writing on this list for a long while!
>


bboyminn:

It depends on when in the story, and how Harry/Dan is in CAPSLOCK mode.

First let's make a distinction between screaming with rage, and
shouting in anger and frustration, and raising one's voice. In the
movie, a voiced raised in anger, raise to an appropraite degree should
serve the story just fine. 

In the beginning of the book, Harry is sufferring from prolonged
frustration at the isolation that is clearly forced on him. So he
shouts a bit, who wouldn't? If the movie can express Harry's angry
frustration, then his raised voice at the appropraite time can be
handled nicely, and followed by appropraite embarassment at his having
shouted at his friends.

Near the end of the book, in Dumbledore's office, after Sirius is
dead, if the closeness of their (Sirius/Harry) relationship, even if
it is only the illussion of their impression of the closeness of their
relationship, has been established then I think people will respond
appropriately to Harry shouting in grief. Especially since that
shouting is followed by Dumbledore's calm explanation. At the very
end, Harry has gone from shouting grief to a quite isolated grief. It
is an appropraite series of reactions, and if the movie establishes
the relationships and the mood, shouting Harry/Dan should play very well.

Keep in mind, that in the books, the author has a limited ability to
related speech. In condensed form, we have -

Shout.

Shout!

SHOUT!

Not much of an available range even when you factor in explanatory
narative. 

In the movies, the characters have much more subtle ranges of emoting.
Dan can portray a frustrated Harry in the beginning without shouting
at the top of his lungs all the time. He has body language and facial
expressions, as well as his voice he can work with.

The same is true of the end of book 'grief shouting', Dan as an actor
has a much wider range of tools to express his emotions.

Overal, it depends more on the construction of the story in the movie,
and how well relationship and circumstances are developed. If the mood
is set properly, then I don't see Dan having a problem.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn