What will be deleted from OotP???

Saundra saundradj at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 30 19:13:59 UTC 2006



--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "jeffschick16" <jeffschick16 at ...>
wrote:
>
> Robin:
> > They might cut all the house cleaning out. I noticed they cut
> Dobby and Winky out of GoF. Suppose they'll have Kreacher in there?
>
> I agree, I don't think they need the house cleaning in there either.
> If they did put it in, they may just show Molly crying over the bogget
> (sp?) turning into the Weaselys and Harry being dead, just to set up
> the intensity of Arthur getting hurt. As for Kreacher, I think they
> might keep him. Not in as many scenes as in the book, but to get the
> point across about 12 GP.
>
> Valerie:
> >Grawp wasn't a favorite of mine either. Kind of irrelevant. I'll bet
> they don't film or even talk about when Hagrid and Mme. Maxime go
> visit the giants. They didn't bring that up at the end of the movie,
> as they did in the book. As previously mentioned the director opted
> for a happy, uplifting ending to the GOF movie, as opposed to the
> foreshadowing of the Order of the Phoenix. I'm looking forward to
> seeing Lupin again. David Thewlis is booked, yes? And Tonks will be a
> fun character, as well as Luna. I thought they might leave Luna out
> altogether as she really is not an integral part of the plot. They
> could have left her out of the whole ministry thing. But she is a
> very colorful character and I'm glad she's in the movie.
>
> I wonder how they are going to account for Grawp if they don't
> discuss Hagrid's journey? I didn't really want to see Grawp but I
> guess they have to have some reason for Hermoine and Harry missing
> Ron's big game. Plus I think he saved them from the centuners, but
> they could cut all that off and have Umbridge just carried off at
> random as far as I'm concern because I hated her just the same as you!
> lol She's worse then Bellatrix to me!LOL
> It disturbed me that Harry was even smiling at the end of Goblet in
> the film. Order, in my opinion, is a very angry book. If he's not
> angry, the things that are happening to him can make you angry. He
> has to be pissed and distraught and full of angst in this film, and I
> hope they represent that well in the film. Dan, I think, will do
> really well. Just the screenwriter and the editors I'm worried about.
> I'm so thrill that Lupin will return. He's awesome and is the only
> way I can get my fiancée to watch an HP movie with me, Prisoner of
> course, over and over again
which I love. The hype for them
finding
> the perfect Luna was kind of like the hype for finding the perfect
> Cho. But she's a cool character, and does have a pretty important
> role in Order having Harry's interview in her father's magazine.
>
> Jen D.:
> >Let's just suppose that as expensive as these films are to make, if
> Grawp is in OOTP, he must have some role to play down the line that
> would be very difficult to explain if he just "popped" at the proper
> time in the plot.
>
> That's the thing about Grawp that I was confused on. What is his
> present in Order going too forshadow? In HBP he only really shows up
> to the funeral. And it's not like JKR has told them, "make sure to
> put a lot of Grawp in Order because in the 7th book he will stomp LV
> to death" or something crazy like that!LOL But as for CG characters
> for the special effects people to play with, they would probably swap
> Grawp for Kreacher. Which, personally, I'd rather see Kreacher
> because it's all Sirius related and I want all the Sirius I can get
> in the films, since this will be his last.
>
> >OOTP is my least favorite of the books so far and I have been
> dreading (is that possible...) this film, of all the films.
>
> That's how I feel about HBP. That's the one I'm not looking forward
> to. It's a big flash back like in a sitcom, but we haven't seen the
> scenes before. That could be a short film for me. It's important
> but not a whole movie worth to me.
> Rae:
> Thanks for posting Richard's breakdown of the film. I will save it
> too.
>
> Akh:
> >Given that they left him on his own, more or less, for the graveyard
> scene in GOF, this says to me that they're expecting believable signs
> of post-traumatic stress disorder (which I think is largely what JKR
> is depicting in his behavior) in his performance.
>
> Do you really think its like PTSD from the graveyard incident? When
> I look back I kind see a variety of issues, not just a like a single
> incident. He was angry because he was still at the Dursley's, he was
> angry that there was a dementor attack near his "home", he was angry
> because Hermoine and Ron weren't writing him the info he wanted to
> know, nor was Sirius really. Then of course, Dumbledore not looking
> at him and not telling him anything, the whole trial thing, and no
> one believing him. For me, Cedric's death made him sad, LV's return
> was frightening, but what made him angry was all the other stuff. So
> it doesn't seem like one incident that set him off, it seems like
> multiple issues.
>

I remember thinking at the start of OotP, that it was about time Harry
got really really angry. I wondered when he would breakdown (remember,
he did sort of swallow his feeling in GoF).

I felt his behavior throughout OotP was not only appropriate but age
appropriate. (Maybe I felt this way because at the same time I was
reading OotP in July 2003, my then 15 year old niece was visiting and
displaying Harry like emotional states-frustration, anger and I later
found out - fear).

All this to say that I think that it will ok for non-die hard HP fans to
be discomfitted by Harry's behaviour. I think they will still stick with
the film. If the filmmakers change Harry too much, it will not ring true
and every one will suffer. The books don't get any easier from here on
and neither should the movies.

Saundra (still around lurking)




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