Harry and LOTR
susanbones2003
rkdas at charter.net
Thu May 11 00:35:01 UTC 2006
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "susanbones2003" <rkdas at ...>
wrote:
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> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Theresa" <anmsmom333@> wrote:
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> > Two - I like LOTR. Yes it is highly detailed but I fell in love
> with
> > them back in High School (which was some time ago as I am 43
now).
> > Anyway, I think LOTR is one of the reasons I began to love HP so
> > much in the beginning - though I will admit I like HP better
now.
> > One thing though for those who love Jacksons version of LOTR the
> > films, he changed quite a few things from the books too - so
Steve
> > Kloves isn't the only one. I think the one major change that got
> me
> > was someone who died in the movies at one of the battles didn't
in
> > the books. I sat next to a really die hard Tolkien fan who
nearly
> > threw her popcorn at the screen. I won't say any more since some
> of
> > you haven't read and/or seen the films. But I really think the
> books
> > and the films are worth reading/seeing.
> SNIPPED AGAIN!
>
> > Theresa
> >
>
> Hi Theresa
> (Treading carefully now to keep this post on topic...)
> The art of adaptation is very tricky, as we have seen in HP films
> and yes, I am one of those HP fans who didn't much care for some
of
> the things Alphonso Cuaron did with my most favorite HP book.
> Adaptation says so much about what a scriptwriter/director thinks
of
> the original work. We HP fans have learnt to roll with the
punches,
> I believe. We know very well how little input we have into how the
> films are made. I think the thing you can say about HP is that
while
> there is always some room for playfulness, many times they are
> approached from an expedient point of view. How do we trim this
baby
> down? No, Chris Columbus wasn't expedient but he wasn't creative
> enough from what I read on this list. He went "tumptetump" from
one
> set piece to the next. Big action, predictable reactions,
> predictable is the worst criticism I guess you can lodge against a
> director. I do think he cared to bring the WW to life. If he'd
been
> coupled with a very creative guy with a vision, then perhaps we'd
> have gotten a stellar HP movie. GOF was very nice, no question,
but
> the love of HP, I just don't think we've seen a director who's
> actually invested in HP. Please don't tell me AC was. I think he's
> primarily invested in himself. And how cute/goth he could make HP
> look and feel. Great for all of you who think HP is really a goth
> story but I never saw it that way. Washed out colors and poor
little
> innocent birdies getting creamed by the Whomping willow were AC's
> ideas, not Jo's. And so back to the point, adaptation reflects how
> invested in a story a director can be. From that vantage point, to
> even begin to take on LOTR, one must either be a raving lunatic or
> totally in love with the books (or both). Changes, yes, big
changes.
> Arwen, anyone? Major reworking. Trumping up "cinematic tension"
yes,
> but the heart is still there. I just hope before it's all over, we
> see a director/script team who love HP as much as Peter, Fran and
> Philippa loved LOTR. That, that would be something!
> Jen D.
> (Kept it on topic for the most part! Hah!)
>
> > Theresa
> >
>
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