From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  1 07:06:41 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:06:41 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <f8pbe1+6m21@eGroups.com>

In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the part
of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, can
he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older actor? I
think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very conservative
slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him a little
padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the middle,
and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this off he
will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other actor has
portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37 year old
man?  I can't think of one.

Eggplant 






From tmarends at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 12:20:16 2007
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 12:20:16 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <f8pbe1+6m21@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8ptq0+3k2m@eGroups.com>

What makes you think they'll film the epilog?  They could easily 
finish the film at V's defeat.

Tim

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the 
part
> of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, 
can
> he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older 
actor? I
> think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very conservative
> slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him a little
> padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the 
middle,
> and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this off 
he
> will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other actor 
has
> portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37 year old
> man?  I can't think of one.
> 
> Eggplant
>





From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Aug  1 13:02:49 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:02:49 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <d0c.16696282.33e1de79@aol.com>

 
>>In the last part of the last movie somebody will  need to play the part
of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at  the time, can
he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older  actor? I
think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very  conservative
slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him a  little
padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the  middle,
and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this off  he
will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other actor  has
portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37 year  old
man? I can't think of one.

Eggplant <<

I  haven't seen "Brokeback Mountain" but Dan said Heath Ledger played his 
character  both much younger and much older than Heath's own age.  And there's 
some  French film series that shows a character going from a boy to a man, but 
not for  as many years or in as much detail as has been done with the Potter 
books (Dan  saw one of those film as preparation for PoA, I think it was - 
Cuaron suggested  he watch it, and Dan mentioned it in an interview).
 
I believe Dan can pull it off - he can certainly  portray the "gravitas" of 
an older person.  Makeup can do wonders, and as  you said, they can pad his 
costume (and  his cheeks!) to make him look  heavier - although some people don't 
gain that much weight or "sag" as they age  until much later.  As an Auror, 
he might very well work at staying in  shape, and he's head of the Auror Office 
by that time.  They could add  prosthetics to give him a saggier jowl line 
and fuller cheeks.  I'd love to  see him play Harry at that age.
 
Then again - they may not show the epilogue in  the film.  It may end with 
him winning the climactic battle, and Ginny  running into his arms or something 
like that, to show they'll get back together  eventually.
 
I had to laugh when I read the section with  Harry in Kings Cross with 
Dumbledore when he was naked.  I read or heard  Dan say that JKR told him (when they 
had dinner together after she saw him in  "Equus") that she'd written Harry 
naked through all of book 7, LOL!  And  there he was, actually naked in the 
book in that scene!  heehee.  JKR  was playing with Dan when she wrote that, I 
think, although the scene was quite  logical too.  And she knows he'll play it 
straight (and naked), if the  producers/director will let him.  We may be in 
for full side or back nudity  in the last film, anyway, but certainly not full 
front.  (How do you do a  blushing smiley?  Imagine one here!  LOL!)  

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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 16:16:03 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
In-Reply-To: <f8pbe1+6m21@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <290131.7653.qm@web55403.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

In an earlier post, I had mentioned about seeing a quick scene in a trailer that I thought I did not see in the film. The part where Harry appears to break something against a wall. After seeing the film again, you do see that quick scene in the end when Voldemort is trying to take Harry over, and it wasn't Harry smashing something against a wall, he was breaking a mirror. It coincides with another scene when Harry is looking into a giant mirror, twitches, and he changes to Voldemort's face. 
   
  So unfortunately this is not the scene where I thought it occurs in Dumbledore's office. However, I do believe it's a deleted scene somewhere in the film where Harry's anger and fear is raging. I found it interesting though.
   
  Jade

       
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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 16:17:16 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:17:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <f8ptq0+3k2m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <849690.7974.qm@web55403.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

If they were smart, they would add the epilogue in hopes that Rowlings would continue another series of the magical world and bank on it.
   
  Jade

Tim <tmarends at yahoo.com> wrote:
  What makes you think they'll film the epilog? They could easily 
finish the film at V's defeat.

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From fedwaysusan at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 15:48:56 2007
From: fedwaysusan at yahoo.com (susan ONeil)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <95094.43596.qm@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well I guess you could say the same for Rupert Grint
and Emma Watson as well since they too will have
played the same characters as 11 year olds to 37 year
olds. It will be interesting to see.

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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Aug  1 17:12:01 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:12:01 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
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References: <290131.7653.qm@web55403.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <05368E1D-CD60-4B02-B0A5-45475470EF87@alltel.net>

I really thought you were seeing him hit the wall in frustration  
after being "expelled" at the beginning. He knocks the picture of his  
parents down.


On Aug 1, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Jade B wrote:

> In an earlier post, I had mentioned about seeing a quick scene in a  
> trailer that I thought I did not see in the film. The part where  
> Harry appears to break something against a wall. After seeing the  
> film again, you do see that quick scene in the end when Voldemort  
> is trying to take Harry over, and it wasn't Harry smashing  
> something against a wall, he was breaking a mirror. It coincides  
> with another scene when Harry is looking into a giant mirror,  
> twitches, and he changes to Voldemort's face.
>
>   So unfortunately this is not the scene where I thought it occurs  
> in Dumbledore's office. However, I do believe it's a deleted scene  
> somewhere in the film where Harry's anger and fear is raging. I  
> found it interesting though.
>
>   Jade
>
>
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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 17:45:36 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The last part of the last movie
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Message-ID: <957409.53444.qm@web55412.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Now I'm imagining Draco Malfoy with thinning hair. Ha ha.
   
  Jade

susan ONeil <fedwaysusan at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Well I guess you could say the same for Rupert Grint
and Emma Watson as well since they too will have
played the same characters as 11 year olds to 37 year
olds. It will be interesting to see.

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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 21:10:19 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:10:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
In-Reply-To: <05368E1D-CD60-4B02-B0A5-45475470EF87@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <3672.53845.qm@web55407.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



Karen <kchuplis at alltel.net> wrote:    I really thought you were seeing him hit the wall in frustration 
after being "expelled" at the beginning. He knocks the picture of his 
parents down.



  I thought so too until seeing the film again. There is definitely a scene where he hits what appears to be a mirror or glass wall and it breaks. Being a mirroroincide with another quick scene of him staring at himself in a large mirror and then he shifts to Voldemort's face. I'm pretty sure it's a scene that was cut from the film but I'm not sure where. This scene and the scene where Harry hits the wall in his room are totally different.
   
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Aug  1 21:27:17 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:27:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
In-Reply-To: <3672.53845.qm@web55407.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7d482$bc2ed010$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

Ohhh. I know what scene you are talking about now! 

>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jade B
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:10 PM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
>
>
>
>Karen <kchuplis at alltel.net> wrote:    I really thought you 
>were seeing him hit the wall in frustration 
>after being "expelled" at the beginning. He knocks the picture 
>of his parents down.
>
>
>
>  I thought so too until seeing the film again. There is 
>definitely a scene where he hits what appears to be a mirror 
>or glass wall and it breaks. Being a mirroroincide with 
>another quick scene of him staring at himself in a large 
>mirror and then he shifts to Voldemort's face. I'm pretty sure 
>it's a scene that was cut from the film but I'm not sure 
>where. This scene and the scene where Harry hits the wall in 
>his room are totally different.
>   
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From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 04:05:02 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:05:02 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <f8pbe1+6m21@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <f8rl5e+pri1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the part
> of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, can
> he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older actor? I
> think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very conservative
> slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him a little
> padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the middle,
> and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this off he
> will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other actor has
> portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37 year old
> man?  I can't think of one.
> 
> Eggplant
>

Old fashioned suit?  The epilogue takes place in 2017!!

These days amazing things can be done with makeup, including paunches, 
jowls, and wrinkles if needed.  There have been actors who have 
portrayed a wide age range in a movie, unfortunately at this point I 
can't think of one!  But portraying that large of an age range over a 
number of movies?  No, I can't think of anyone.

Snape's Witch
Always







From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 02:34:35 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:34:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <f8pbe1+6m21@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <323010.90548.qm@web57314.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Eggplant:
In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the 
part of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the 
time, can he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another 
older actor? 


With Hollywood makeup nowadays I'm sure they can make Dan look 37 
no problem. 

Love,
Nitara



From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 13:16:42 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:16:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <f8rl5e+pri1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <317786.92137.qm@web55104.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



                                  --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...> 
 wondered:
 >
 > In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the part
 > of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, can
 > he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older actor? [snipped the part where Eggplant suggests Dan is up to the challenge, and I agree!]
 
LizzyMae then replied:

These days amazing things can be done with makeup, including paunches, 
 jowls, and wrinkles if needed.  There have been actors who have 
 portrayed a wide age range in a movie, unfortunately at this point I 
 can't think of one! 


akh comes out of her fog and remembers:

Javier Bardem, in The Sea Inside, plays a quadriplegic in his 50s as well as the sailor he was in his 20s when he suffered the accident.  Bardem was 24-25 at the time, yet he very convincingly plays the older man, with many closeups.  That's a tribute to the makeup artist and Bardem.

I believe the seventh movie will reach a milestone in film, having the same actors play their roles from movie 1 to 7, even if they replace them with older actors for the epilogue.  We've seen it on television, but I think it's unprecedented in movie sequels.  At any rate, Chris Columbus believed so when he was interviewed for Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone DVD.



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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Aug  2 17:31:04 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:31:04 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <cec.156454e9.33e36ed8@aol.com>

Since we've been talking about how they might make Dan look 37 in  the 
epilogue of the last film (if they film it), I thought you might like to see  this.  
 I just saw pics of him in "My Boy Jack" which he's filming  now.  The 
character he's playing is only 17, but my goodness, look what a  difference it makes 
in his appearance to have a moustache (fake facial hair -  Dan doesn't have 
this much beard yet from other recent pics of him) and a  totally different 
haircut. 
 
 _http://tinyurl.com/26uvt4_ (http://tinyurl.com/26uvt4) 
 
That young man has "character actor" written all over him.  If  it weren't 
for his eyes, you'd never know it was him (until he smiles - if he  smiles in 
this role - since he has a rather distinctive smile).
 

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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug  2 18:00:07 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:00:07 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <cec.156454e9.33e36ed8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001201c7d52e$f672a970$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

He looks quite a bit older. We'll never get to see this film and it sounds
very interesting. I'm a sucker for WWI flicks. 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of artsylynda at aol.com
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:31 PM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
>
>Since we've been talking about how they might make Dan look 37 
>in  the epilogue of the last film (if they film it), I thought 
>you might like to see  this.  
> I just saw pics of him in "My Boy Jack" which he's filming  
>now.  The character he's playing is only 17, but my goodness, 
>look what a  difference it makes in his appearance to have a 
>moustache (fake facial hair -  Dan doesn't have this much 
>beard yet from other recent pics of him) and a  totally 
>different haircut. 
> 
> _http://tinyurl.com/26uvt4_ (http://tinyurl.com/26uvt4) 
> 
>That young man has "character actor" written all over him.  If 
> it weren't for his eyes, you'd never know it was him (until 
>he smiles - if he  smiles in this role - since he has a rather 
>distinctive smile).
> 
>
>Lynda AKA "Abraxan"
>
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>(http://www.abraxan.blogspot.com/)   
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From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 20:34:07 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:34:07 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <957409.53444.qm@web55412.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f8tf3v+nkql@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Jade B <jade76_2000 at ...> wrote:
>
> Now I'm imagining Draco Malfoy with thinning hair. Ha ha.
>    
>   Jade
> 

Not too hard to do!  He wears a wig now, both because he didn't want to 
bleach his hair anymore and his hairline is receding.  I strongly 
suspect the comment about Draco's thinning hair had something to do 
with that!! 

Snape's Witch
Always 




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 22:30:16 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:30:16 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
In-Reply-To: <001201c7d52e$f672a970$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <f8tlto+qoqb@eGroups.com>

---  "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> He looks quite a bit older. We'll never get to see 
> this film and it sounds very interesting. I'm a sucker
> for WWI flicks. 

bboyminn:

Never get to see this film? Don't be too sure. The made-
for-TV Movie "David Copperfield" starring 9-year-old Dan
is available at your local video store, or at least, my 
local video store. Many here in the group have see it.
He does a great job in it. 

Also, PBS might pick up the rights to it. It is the kind
of historical movie they specialize in. It may take a
while, but I suspect "My Boy Jack" will make it's way
to American audiences.

One can hope.

Steve/bboyminn





From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Aug  3 04:17:49 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:17:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
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Message-ID: <493b6fc59ae8b07a58de85a9a7261e21@verizon.net>

WOW! He doesn't look like Dan Radcliffe (OR Harry Potter) at all! I 
wouldn't have recognized him if I glanced at the pic. I have no doubt 
that Dan, Rupert and Emma, etc. can be made to look mid-thirties. In 
fact, I don't think the audiences would accept any other characters 
playing them. That would just ring false to me. (though of course they 
did do that for the way too abreviated Marauders/Snape scene).
Anyone know if they filmed the Lily character for sure, and just cut it 
out?
I heard they filmed quite a bit more of Bellatrix, then cut it. It's 
not slated to be on the DVD extras though. :-(
Valerie

On Aug 2, 2007, at 1:31 PM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:

> Since we've been talking about how they might make Dan look 37 in the
>  epilogue of the last film (if they film it), I thought you might like 
> to see this.
>  I just saw pics of him in "My Boy Jack" which he's filming now. The
>  character he's playing is only 17, but my goodness, look what a 
> difference it makes
>  in his appearance to have a moustache (fake facial hair - Dan doesn't 
> have
>  this much beard yet from other recent pics of him) and a totally 
> different
>  haircut.
>  Lynda AKA "Abraxan"




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Aug  3 04:21:43 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:21:43 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Emma has braces?
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Anyone else notice that Emma has braces in some scenes in OotP?
I particularly noticed in the Room of Requirement when she stuns Ron. 
Now I can't recall but I know I've seen video of her, Rupert and Dan, 
and she has braces. Was that in the GOF interviews?? Anyway, I wonder 
why they didn't just have her wearing braces the whole time, instead of 
trying to hide them? Hermione's parents are, after all, dentists, and 
in the book anyway, she is supposed to have big teeth. So it would be 
right in character!
Valerie




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Aug  3 04:24:04 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:24:04 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Ron's jab
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Can anyone tell me what Ron called that skeptical guy in the Hogshead 
Inn? Was it a 'toss puff'? Toss pot? Is that british slang?
Valerie




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Aug  3 04:34:12 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:34:12 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The last part of the last movie
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Ha! You're right! I do think JK was messing with Dan there! I laughed 
when I heard that she'd said that to him after Equus. Now I don't feel 
so lecherous admiring his svelt physique (being her same age and a 
mom!)
Did you see him in Details magazine this month? Goodness; but those 
blue eyes are startling!
I also love the other little references to the actors that JK has put 
in her books.
In HBP one of the Quidditch players is named Demelza; Demelza House is 
the childrens hospice that Dan is involved with.
And when Ron accidentally eats the chocolates with the love potion in 
them and Harry takes him to Slughorn's office, Slugg calls Ron 
"Rupert"!!! (in the book, if you recall, Ron, being poor and of little 
influence, is of no interest to Slughorn, the power-hungry slug! So he 
can't remember his 'real' name.
Valerie

On Aug 1, 2007, at 9:02 AM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:
>  I had to laugh when I read the section with Harry in Kings Cross with
>  Dumbledore when he was naked. I read or heard Dan say that JKR told 
> him (when they
>  had dinner together after she saw him in "Equus") that she'd written 
> Harry
>  naked through all of book 7, LOL! And there he was, actually naked in 
> the
>  book in that scene! heehee. JKR was playing with Dan when she wrote 
> that, I
>  think, although the scene was quite logical too. And she knows he'll 
> play it
>  straight (and naked), if the producers/director will let him. We may 
> be in
>  for full side or back nudity in the last film, anyway, but certainly 
> not full
>  front. (How do you do a blushing smiley? Imagine one here! LOL!)




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Aug  3 05:02:20 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:02:20 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
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As this takes  place during the 'possession' perhaps the crashing of 
the mirror is symbolic of Harry breaking away from the invasive spirit 
of Voldemort? It certainly is creepy when we see Voldemort's head on 
Harry's body!
Valerie

On Aug 1, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Jade B wrote:

>  I thought so too until seeing the film again. There is definitely a 
> scene where he hits what appears to be a mirror or glass wall and it 
> breaks. Being a mirroroincide with another quick scene of him staring 
> at himself in a large mirror and then he shifts to Voldemort's face. 
> I'm pretty sure it's a scene that was cut from the film but I'm not 
> sure where. This scene and the scene where Harry hits the wall in his 
> room are totally different.




From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 15:01:07 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:01:07 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
Message-ID: <cf1.1648f52f.33e49d33@aol.com>

"My Boy Jack" is due to appear on US PBS stations as part of  "Masterpiece 
Theater" in early 2008 - just as "David Copperfield" with 9 year  old Dan 
appeared on Masterpiece Theater years ago (before I'd heard of Dan,  alas, so I 
never saw it on TV - got to get the video!)  

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 15:03:45 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:03:45 EDT
Subject: Emma has braces?
Message-ID: <cf5.11e81878.33e49dd1@aol.com>

I didn't notice Emma having braces on in OotP and I've seen it in  IMAX 
twice!!  Yikes, I'll have to look again.  She had braces after  GoF - that's why 
all her promotion photos showed her with her mouth  closed.  They make "clear" 
braces that they surely could've used if she  needed them during filming - I'll 
sure have to look again to see if I can spot  them!  

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 15:05:29 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:05:29 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <d4b.d44464b.33e49e39@aol.com>

>>Ha! You're right! I do think JK was messing with Dan there! I  laughed 
when I heard that she'd said that to him after Equus. Now I don't  feel 
so lecherous admiring his svelt physique (being her same age and a  
mom!)
Did you see him in Details magazine this month? Goodness; but those  
blue eyes are startling!
I also love the other little references to the  actors that JK has put 
in her books.
In HBP one of the Quidditch players  is named Demelza; Demelza House is 
the childrens hospice that Dan is  involved with.
And when Ron accidentally eats the chocolates with the love  potion in 
them and Harry takes him to Slughorn's office, Slugg calls Ron  
"Rupert"!!! (in the book, if you recall, Ron, being poor and of little  
influence, is of no interest to Slughorn, the power-hungry slug! So he  
can't remember his 'real' name.
Valerie<<

Yeah, I noticed all of those.  How sweet for the kids to know  that forever 
and ever, they're linked to the HP books by those little teases she  tossed in 
there.  And how cute of JKR to do it!
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 15:08:37 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:08:37 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <cef.1685d340.33e49ef5@aol.com>

>>Ha! You're right! I do think JK was messing with Dan there!  I laughed 
when I heard that she'd said that to him after Equus. Now I don't  feel 
so lecherous admiring his svelt physique (being her same age and a  
mom!)
Did you see him in Details magazine this month? Goodness; but those  
blue eyes are startling!<<

Sorry for the extra post - yeah, I not only saw that  magazine, I bought it!  
It's quite a "different" interview in some ways,  and some of those photos 
are just weird - the hood over his head while he's  playing with that phone at 
the desk?  Very strange.  But yeah, the  pics are amazing.  Even more amazing 
are some others that surfaced on  DanRadcliffe.com or DanRadcliffe.co.uk (can't 
remember which right now) where  he's wearing a nice dark windbreaker (I 
think that's what it is - a short  jacket) with no shirt on.  Some of those pics 
are rather startling.   They're from the same "bearded Dan" period.

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug  3 15:15:29 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:15:29 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <ce3.17080f5c.33e4a091@aol.com>

>>Anyone know if they filmed the Lily character for sure, and just  cut it 
out?
I heard they filmed quite a bit more of Bellatrix, then cut  it. It's 
not slated to be on the DVD extras though.  :-(
Valerie<<

Lily was part of that "young Marauders" scene, but was cut.   THere's a still 
I saw somewhere with a very shocked-looking Harry in the middle  of the 
picture, young James and young Lily nose to nose in front of him.   And Dan said in 
an interview that there was a lot more to that scene where he  goes after 
Bella, but it got cut.  Hopefully those scenes will be on the  DVD's "extras" 
disk!  Why do you say it "isn't slated for the DVD's  extras," Valerie??  I've 
tried to keep up with the news stories about the  film, actors, etc., and 
haven't read that anywhere (of course, there are so  many, I've probably missed it.)
 
Rather than posting another reply, I wondered how you know, Lizzie  May, that 
Draco's wearing a wig?  I thought his hair looked a lot better  than usual in 
this film, but I thought maybe the had a different hair stylist or  
something.  Where was there a comment about Draco's thinning hair?  I  must've missed 
something somewhere.
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 15:24:38 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Emma has braces?
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artsylynda at aol.com wrote:                                  I didn't notice Emma having braces on in OotP and I've seen it in  IMAX 
 twice!! [akh snipped]



akh offers up:

I'm going this evening, so I'll have my eyes peeled for braces.  She definitely had the "viewable" braces in the DVD interview, and I sympathized, having had braces for 5 years in my (now long-distant) youth.  


akh, who had every conceivable contraption during her braces years...





 
  






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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 18:56:13 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Wasn't what I thought it was...but still...
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It might just be, but I noticed most of the other scenes during the flashbacks were reflections of past scenes that were in the film. It could possibly be a quick scene that didn't really reflect from a deleted scene. I'm just hoping it is. Always hoping....
   
  Jade

Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net> wrote:
  As this takes place during the 'possession' perhaps the crashing of 
the mirror is symbolic of Harry breaking away from the invasive spirit 
of Voldemort? It certainly is creepy when we see Voldemort's head on 
Harry's body!
Valerie

       
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From mugg1eb0rn at aol.com  Sat Aug  4 01:31:18 2007
From: mugg1eb0rn at aol.com (mugg1eb0rn at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 21:31:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
Message-ID: <bd4.1389ab55.33e530e6@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 8/3/2007 11:16:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
artsylynda at aol.com writes:

>>Anyone know if they filmed the Lily character for sure, and  just cut it 
out?
I heard they filmed quite a bit more of Bellatrix,  then cut it. It's 
not slated to be on the DVD extras though.  :-(
Valerie<<

Lily was part of that "young Marauders" scene,  but was cut. THere's a still 
I saw somewhere with a very shocked-looking  Harry in the middle of the 
picture, young James and young Lily nose to  nose in front of him. And Dan 
said in 
an interview that there was a lot  more to that scene where he goes after 
Bella, but it got cut. Hopefully  those scenes will be on the DVD's "extras" 
disk! Why do you say it "isn't  slated for the DVD's extras," Valerie?? I've 
tried to keep up with the  news stories about the film, actors, etc., and 
haven't read that anywhere  (of course, there are so many, I've probably 
missed  it.)





Hi. 
 
I'm usually a lurker, but I have to respond to  this.
 
Just as material filmed from previous movies were used in OOP  (a flash of 
Lockhart; the picture of Cedric), it's possible they will use more  from those 
scenes in a succeeding film when it makes sense to do so. (I won't be  more 
specific, since it might be seen as a book spoiler if I do.)
 
Peter Jackson moved film around in the various LotR movies;  it's possible 
they will do the same thing here. As long as the actors receive  payment for the 
use of the footage, it would be legal to do it.
 
jamelia
 
 



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From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  4 03:07:42 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:07:42 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Never get to see this film? Don't be too sure. The made-
> for-TV Movie "David Copperfield" starring 9-year-old Dan
> is available at your local video store, or at least, my 
> local video store. Many here in the group have see it.
> He does a great job in it. 
> 
> Also, PBS might pick up the rights to it. It is the kind
> of historical movie they specialize in. It may take a
> while, but I suspect "My Boy Jack" will make it's way
> to American audiences.
> 
> One can hope.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>

There's already been an annoucement that 'My Boy Jack' will be on 
PBS's Masterpiece Theatre this fall.

Snape's Witch





From kchuplis at alltel.net  Sat Aug  4 04:06:44 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 23:06:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
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On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Lizzie Mae Lilly wrote:

>>
>
> There's already been an annoucement that 'My Boy Jack' will be on
> PBS's Masterpiece Theatre this fall.
>
> Snape's Witch

Oo thanks!



From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  4 17:37:05 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:37:05 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: My OotP Review
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>From: Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: My OotP Review
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:15:38 -0400
>
>None of my family recognized Dudley either. He's lost a lot of weight.
>How cruel what he said about Harry's mum!!! Sheesh! I blame the
>parents! Look at how poor Draco has turned out!


Of course Valerie!  :)  Aunt Marge would be very proud of you!  After all, 
as she said, "If there's something wrong with the bitch, then there's 
something wrong with the pup!"  ;)
Charlotte, who finished reading DH on Monday July 30 (and has already seen 
OOtP twice)





From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  4 18:40:45 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:40:45 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HBP "Funny"?????
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Message-ID: <BAY110-F15CF4B054776227F06E4ECB3EB0@phx.gbl>

>From: "rdhdwldflwr" <willow58 at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: HBP "Funny"?????
>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:28:06 -0000
>
>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at ... wrote:
> >
> >  HBP is referred to as "the funniest book in the series so far" or
>else they say  the script is going to be very funny.  In Entertainment
>Weekly, Yates says  HBP will give Dan a chance to stretch his comedic
>wings which is good because  Dan's very funny (paraphrasing here).  I
>agree, Dan's very funny, and I'd  LOVE to see him in a comedy, but
>HBP "funny"???  This is the only book in  my LIFE that I've ever thrown
>across a room in anger when I finished reading  it!
>
>...
>
>I couldn't believe it when I read that either.  Movie 6 is doomed with
>this joker doing it.

I remember some funny parts about it... There have been funny parts in EVERY 
book, even though the conflict makes it dark.  The books wouldn't be good at 
all if nothing funny happened.  As for specifics in HBP, I guess I'm 
thinking about Hermione getting jealous of Ron "making out" with Lavender 
Brown too much.  I know HBP is not meant to be a comedy, but I see great 
comedic promises in Dan, Rupert and Emma, as has been evident from all the 
previous movies.  There were certain moments where people laughed at OOTP.

Charlotte





From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  4 18:37:10 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:37:10 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
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Message-ID: <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>


>From: "rdhdwldflwr" <willow58 at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
>Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:04:35 -0000
>
> >
>More grips - WHY do we have to have Hermione call Ron, Ronald in every
>movie?  She has never done this?   WHY did they call them Owls and not
>O.W.Ls?  WHY did everyone pronounce Bellitrix's last name wrong?  It's
>not La STRANGE.
>

Hermione only calls him Ronald once in a while, not EVERY single time she 
addresses him, otherwise it would be cumbersome and superfluous.

As for the OWLs, they probably just say that in the movie because it happens 
to spell out the word.  Remember the SPEW incident in GOF?  In the book, Ron 
calls it by the word "spew" that it spells out, but Hermione insists on 
calling it by "initials" only.  (I don't care what anyone else says, I 
always mentally called it "spew," and I always will, lol.)  Whereas when it 
comes to OWLs, no narrative pronounciation is given in the books.  Not to 
mention it's easier to say verbally instead of articulating every letter, 
especially the "W," which takes more time than it should to say!  LOL.

I always mentally pronounced Bellatrix's last name Le STRANGE, I guess 
because it's spelled that way.  I had no clue how to pronounce Hermione's 
name until I read that part at the Yule Ball in GOF when she's telling it to 
Viktor.  No correct pronounciation is explicitly explained by any character 
when it comes to Bellatrix.  She is a "strange" woman herself, so I think it 
has a minor validity, lol.

Speaking of names, I couldn't help but notice something: at Harry's hearing 
in OOTP, Fudge announced that the hearing is for "Harry James Potter."  But 
"Harry" is actually a short form of the name Harold.... shouldn't that have 
been the form of address if he was stating his full name there?  Just a 
little observation to consider.  ;)

Charlotte, who just revised her emails and couldn't believe some of the 
things people said about Harry's scene at King's Cross, among the other 
stuff people said!  *blush*  (Not to mention that I dread my mom will make a 
comment about that after she's read the book.)





From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  4 18:49:27 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:49:27 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
In-Reply-To: <cf1.1648f52f.33e49d33@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-F2680371E82A872C6B321E1B3EB0@phx.gbl>

>From: artsylynda at aol.com
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too 
>Sure.
>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:01:07 EDT
>
>"My Boy Jack" is due to appear on US PBS stations as part of  "Masterpiece
>Theater" in early 2008 - just as "David Copperfield" with 9 year  old Dan
>appeared on Masterpiece Theater years ago (before I'd heard of Dan,  alas, 
>so I
>never saw it on TV - got to get the video!)
>
>Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

Don't forget he starred in this movie "The Tailor of Panama."  My mom told 
me she saw it when she read that Dan starred in it.  Now I am dying to see 
it!  Not to mention December Boys when it comes out.  Oh, and Driving 
Lessons too!

Charlotte





From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  4 18:48:04 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:48:04 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <77589a3f4f89281f995d37b8dacffabf@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY110-F15E2F36C5A65495CC4CAD7B3EB0@phx.gbl>

>From: Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The last part of the last movie
>Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:34:12 -0400
>
>Ha! You're right! I do think JK was messing with Dan there! I laughed
>when I heard that she'd said that to him after Equus. Now I don't feel
>so lecherous admiring his svelt physique (being her same age and a
>mom!)
>Did you see him in Details magazine this month? Goodness; but those
>blue eyes are startling!
>I also love the other little references to the actors that JK has put
>in her books.
>In HBP one of the Quidditch players is named Demelza; Demelza House is
>the childrens hospice that Dan is involved with.
>And when Ron accidentally eats the chocolates with the love potion in
>them and Harry takes him to Slughorn's office, Slugg calls Ron
>"Rupert"!!! (in the book, if you recall, Ron, being poor and of little
>influence, is of no interest to Slughorn, the power-hungry slug! So he
>can't remember his 'real' name.
>Valerie

I bought Details immediately when I saw it... Someone could have told me 
it's a men's magazine before I picked it up!  Let's just say I felt myself 
blushing when I read it and didn't need anyone to tell me!  LOL.  Oh, and 
the same is applicable with all the squeamish girly garbage people were 
writing about Harry's "nude" scene at King's Cross and JKR testing Dan about 
it!  LOL!!!! I hope my blush is mostly gone, since I'm in the library 
reading and writing these emails!

Charlotte, age 25, who has been working at coming to terms that she's 
developed a mild crush on Dan after seeing his sexy Equus pictures





From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug  4 21:08:16 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:08:16 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OotP DVD
In-Reply-To: <ce3.17080f5c.33e4a091@aol.com>
References: <ce3.17080f5c.33e4a091@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8c4c164ab34e19fe17936e81ea70418e@verizon.net>

I don't recall on what website I read that interview with Helena Bonham 
Carter where the interviewer said that her cut scenes weren't going to 
make it in. I wonder if the DVD is already 'in the can', or if there is 
someone we can appeal to for the Bellatrix and Marauders scenes to get 
into the DVD?? Does anyone know? Is it Warner Brothers? It annoys me 
that this was the longest book, and yet the shortest movie. I can 
understand if they decided never to shoot certain parts of the book, 
but if they did, then cut it, for goodness sakes, give us HP fans those 
deleted scenes! Heck, I'd pay extra if they do a premium DVD like they 
did with GOF, with more extras.
Valerie

On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:15 AM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:

> >>Anyone know if they filmed the Lily character for sure, and just cut 
> it
>  out?
>  I heard they filmed quite a bit more of Bellatrix, then cut it. It's
>  not slated to be on the DVD extras though. :-(
>  Valerie<<
>
>  Lily was part of that "young Marauders" scene, but was cut. THere's a 
> still
>  I saw somewhere with a very shocked-looking Harry in the middle of the
>  picture, young James and young Lily nose to nose in front of him. And 
> Dan said in
>  an interview that there was a lot more to that scene where he goes 
> after
>  Bella, but it got cut. Hopefully those scenes will be on the DVD's 
> "extras"
>  disk! Why do you say it "isn't slated for the DVD's extras," 
> Valerie?? I've
>  tried to keep up with the news stories about the film, actors, etc., 
> and
>  haven't read that anywhere (of course, there are so many, I've 
> probably missed it.)




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug  4 21:20:10 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:20:10 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan in Details mag
In-Reply-To: <cef.1685d340.33e49ef5@aol.com>
References: <cef.1685d340.33e49ef5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <990d5fbc702b7a25cff1195b20e1400c@verizon.net>

I'm not sure what that funky hood was; it looked like the set was of an 
old boxing locker room. Like from the 40's or something. It was 
bizarre.
Now, not to gossip about dear Daniel, but I found it very interesting 
in that article that he says that his best friend, Will, is 41(!!!) 
He's been Dan's HP dresser since the beginning. His parents must be 
around that age! I've heard him mention Will quite a bit; going to 
concerts with him; Will making disparaging remarks on Dan's scraggly 
beard in Equus, etc. I've also heard a lot of people describe Dan as 
very mature; I guess that comes from being an only child, and growing 
up on set around so many adults. He said his parents and Will are the 
most important people in his life. He's decided not to go to college, 
and I wonder if he's not somewhat afraid of being away from their 
protection. I'm sure the paparazzi would have a field day with him at 
school; going on dates, etc. Kind of sad...not that everyone needs to 
go to college, but he sounds like a well-read, intelligent young man. 
Says he can learn just as well on his own.
I do hope he stays true to himself and doesn't become wild now that 
he's of age. The trio sure make american teens/young adults look bad, 
don't they?! Paris, Lindsey, Brittany, MacCauley, etc.
Valerie

>  Sorry for the extra post - yeah, I not only saw that magazine, I 
> bought it!
>  It's quite a "different" interview in some ways, and some of those 
> photos
>  are just weird - the hood over his head while he's playing with that 
> phone at
>  the desk? Very strange. But yeah, the pics are amazing. Even more 
> amazing
>  are some others that surfaced on DanRadcliffe.com or 
> DanRadcliffe.co.uk (can't
>  remember which right now) where he's wearing a nice dark windbreaker 
> (I
>  think that's what it is - a short jacket) with no shirt on. Some of 
> those pics
>  are rather startling. They're from the same "bearded Dan" period.
>
>  Lynda AKA "Abraxan"




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug  4 21:22:59 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:22:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Emma has braces?
In-Reply-To: <791116.25289.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <791116.25289.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bdc8e77bdb982452fffa0d285b6df5e@verizon.net>

> Yeah, I was surprised in the DVD that she didn't have the 'Invisaline' 
> braces. I don't think you can necessarily see her braces in the Room 
> of Requirement, I could just tell by the way she was holding her mouth 
> that she had braces. I imagine one has to wear braces for at least 
> several years, so they probably had to film some of her scenes while 
> she still had them on.

>  akh offers up:
>
>  I'm going this evening, so I'll have my eyes peeled for braces. She 
> definitely had the "viewable" braces in the DVD interview, and I 
> sympathized, having had braces for 5 years in my (now long-distant) 
> youth.
>
>  akh, who had every conceivable contraption during her braces years...




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug  4 21:28:15 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:28:15 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: deleted scenes
In-Reply-To: <bd4.1389ab55.33e530e6@aol.com>
References: <bd4.1389ab55.33e530e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <68b3b4c935ecb767758cee0018431347@verizon.net>

possible DH spoiler? even tho I'm sure you've ALL read it by now! :-)
""
""
""
""
""
""
""
""
""
""
I don't know. I remember hoping in POA that more of the marauder 
storyline would crop up in GOF or OotP, but it really didn't. Just as I 
kept hoping that Sirius would come back from beyond the veil, or at 
least have more than one freakin' line in DH!!
Ah well. Will just have to enjoy the books for all the details.
Val~

> <snip>  Just as material filmed from previous movies were used in OOP 
> (a flash of
>  Lockhart; the picture of Cedric), it's possible they will use more 
> from those
>  scenes in a succeeding film when it makes sense to do so. (I won't be 
> more
>  specific, since it might be seen as a book spoiler if I do.)
>  jamelia




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  4 21:56:06 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:56:06 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie
In-Reply-To: <ce3.17080f5c.33e4a091@aol.com>
Message-ID: <f92slm+r8e5@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at ... wrote:
>
>  
> Rather than posting another reply, I wondered how you know, Lizzie  
May, that 
> Draco's wearing a wig?  I thought his hair looked a lot better  
than usual in 
> this film, but I thought maybe the had a different hair stylist or  
> something.  Where was there a comment about Draco's thinning hair?  
I  must've missed 
> something somewhere.
>  
> Lynda AKA "Abraxan"
> 
>

Sorry, I no longer have the source (might have been Tom's website), 
but it was around the time of the filming of GoF.  You'll remember 
that Draco's hairdo actually changed in PoA. Tom's hair is naturally 
brown and was bleached for the first three movies (maybe that was a 
wig in PoA).  He apparently decided on his own that he didn't want it 
bleached anymore.  And it's not like there's no precedence for a 
Malfoy wearing a wig -- Jason Isaacs comes to mind!  

Snape's Witch
Always




From kchuplis at alltel.net  Sat Aug  4 22:08:33 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:08:33 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D1057044-EB97-4CEE-AAA7-AF922F6E02C1@alltel.net>


On Aug 4, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Charlotte Roberts wrote:

>
> Speaking of names, I couldn't help but notice something: at Harry's  
> hearing
> in OOTP, Fudge announced that the hearing is for "Harry James  
> Potter."  But
> "Harry" is actually a short form of the name Harold.... shouldn't  
> that have
> been the form of address if he was stating his full name there?   
> Just a
> little observation to consider.  ;)

I really think it *is* just Harry because Dursley, in SS, is  
reasoning out that the Potter he hears muttered about on the street  
could be someone else and he thinks something like he wasn't even  
sure the boys name was Harry. 'It might  have been Harvey. Or  
Harold.' So that leads me to believe Harry's name is just Harry.
___________________

http://pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com/





From siskiou at peak.org  Sun Aug  5 01:34:49 2007
From: siskiou at peak.org (Susanne)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:34:49 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>
References: <f809o3+h3ou@eGroups.com> <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <181520109.20070804183449@peak.org>



Hi,

Saturday, August 4, 2007, 11:37:10 AM, charober at sympatico.ca wrote:

>   But 
> "Harry" is actually a short form of the name
> Harold.... shouldn't that have 
> been the form of address if he was stating his
> full name there?  Just a 
> little observation to consider.  ;)

IIRC, JKR said in an interview that it was "just
Harry", not short for anything.

-- 
 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at peak.org




From siskiou at peak.org  Sun Aug  5 01:38:13 2007
From: siskiou at peak.org (Susanne)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:38:13 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F2680371E82A872C6B321E1B3EB0@phx.gbl>
References: <cf1.1648f52f.33e49d33@aol.com> <BAY110-F2680371E82A872C6B321E1B3EB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <749758654.20070804183813@peak.org>



Hi,

Saturday, August 4, 2007, 11:49:27 AM, charober at sympatico.ca wrote:

> Don't forget he starred in this movie "The
> Tailor of Panama."  My mom told 
> me she saw it when she read that Dan starred in
> it.  Now I am dying to see 
> it! 

I think he is only in it very minimally, from what
I've heard.


-- 
 
Best regards,
 Susanne                           mailto:siskiou at peak.org




From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  5 03:23:16 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Emma has braces?
In-Reply-To: <3bdc8e77bdb982452fffa0d285b6df5e@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <847445.5913.qm@web55114.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net> wrote:          > Yeah, I was surprised in the DVD that she didn't have the 'Invisaline' 
> braces. I don't think you can necessarily see her braces in the Room 
> of Requirement, I could just tell by the way she was holding her mouth 
> that she had braces. I imagine one has to wear braces for at least 
> several years, so they probably had to film some of her scenes while 
> she still had them on.

> akh follows up:
>
  I paid special attention to the Room of Requirement scene, and there are a couple of shots that she definitely appears to have her braces.  In others, especially those with a bunch of other kids, she clearly has them off, so I suspect she still had them on at the beginning of the shoot and had them removed before the shoot was over, or she had them off by the time they did pickups.  In one instance, there is a slight "gleam" of metal, and in the other,  she appeared to be working to keep her teeth covered.
   
  It's subtle enough that I would probably not have noticed if I hadn't been alerted by this illustrious group!
   
  akh, who loved the detail at IMAX but has issues with goofy green glasses being flashed at the bottom of the screen for the 3D stuff (hated it in Superman, too)


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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 04:59:13 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 00:59:13 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
Message-ID: <c65.16dac607.33e6b321@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 8/3/2007 11:02:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
artsylynda at aol.com writes:

"My  Boy Jack" is due to appear on US PBS stations as part of "Masterpiece  
Theater" in early 2008 - just as "David Copperfield" with 9 year old Dan  
appeared on Masterpiece Theater years ago (before I'd heard of Dan, alas,  so 
I 
never saw it on TV - got to get the video!)  




Sandy:
 
I have David Copperfield on DVD. Dan is great in it. Several other actors  
from HP are in it as well, most notably, Maggie Smith. I also bought the movie  
"Tailor of Panama" because Dan is in it. Don't bother: It's a crappy movie and 
 Dan;s scenes are fleeting. But you really should get DC. I also have "Sense 
and  Sensibility" with Alan Rickman and love it too.
 
Sandy



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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  5 06:57:19 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:57:19 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
In-Reply-To: <749758654.20070804183813@peak.org>
Message-ID: <f93scf+92rp@eGroups.com>

---  Susanne <siskiou at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Saturday, August 4, 2007, 11:49:27 AM, charober at ... wrote:
> 
> > Don't forget he starred in this movie "The
> > Tailor of Panama."  My mom told 
> > me she saw it when she read that Dan starred in
> > it.  Now I am dying to see 
> > it! 
> 
> I think he is only in it very minimally, from what
> I've heard.
> 
> -- 
>  
> Best regards,
>  Susanne                           

bboyminn:

Yes, Dan has a very minor part in the movie. It is actually
a spy movie and Dan plays the son of one of the characters,
so, again since it is a spy movie, the kids don't get much
screen time. I believe we see him briefly a couple of times
and his biggest scene is a breakfast scene where he asks
if they can have pancakes. But that is about it.

Steve/bboyminn




From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 14:01:21 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 10:01:21 EDT
Subject: More OOTP comments
Message-ID: <d33.136a8010.33e73231@aol.com>

Speaking of names, I couldn't help but notice something: at Harry's hearing  
in OOTP, Fudge announced that the hearing is for "Harry James Potter." But  
"Harry" is actually a short form of the name Harold.... shouldn't that have  
been the form of address if he was stating his full name there? Just a  
little observation to consider. ;)

Some people name their kids the shortened version of names (Harry  rather 
than Harold, Jamie rather than James, Jack rather than John, Kim rather  than 
Kimberly, etc.)  Harry has always said it's "Harry - just Harry" and  when 
McGonagall called him up to be Sorted, it was "Harry James Potter" not  "Harold" - 
you must have gotten that idea from fanfic.  I know there was a  fanfic one 
time that claimed his name was "Heron" (like the bird!) rather than  "Harold" or 
"Harry" - yikes!
 
I knew a guy named Terry who I called "Terrance" once and he gave me  this 
LOOK, then said his name was Terry, not Terrance, and that's how it was on  his 
birth certificate.  So Harry's situation is a common one on both sides  of the 
Atlantic, I suspect.  

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 18:49:27 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:49:27 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie - Don't be too Sure.
Message-ID: <ca1.17ec95a2.33e775b7@aol.com>

I've seen "The Tailor of Panama" - rented it after I got hooked on  Harry 
Potter.  Dan plays the son of the stars - he isn't the star.  He  has a few 
scenes.  I remember him eating cereal next to a girl who plays  his sister (IIRC) 
and that's pretty much all.  I've seen stills from "David  Copperfield" but 
haven't seen the film yet.  In one still, Minerva  McGonagall (Dame Maggie Smith) 
is giving Harry Potter (Dan) a bath.  At  least he knew some of the cast when 
he started filming Harry Potter!  LOL!  

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 19:05:19 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:05:19 EDT
Subject: deleted scenes
Message-ID: <cd7.16a0a6ad.33e7796f@aol.com>

DH Spoiler Space
 
""
 
""

""

""

""
 
>>I don't know. I remember hoping in POA that more of the marauder  
storyline would crop up in GOF or OotP, but it really didn't. Just as I  
kept hoping that Sirius would come back from beyond the veil, or at  
least have more than one freakin' line in DH!!
Ah well. Will just have to  enjoy the books for all the details.
Val~<<

I've nearly finished reading it for the second time in hard copy  (listening 
to it for the first time on audio in my car).  Just finished the  Battle of 
Hogwarts stuff and the "after-Snape" stuff - yes the YOUNG Marauders  DO have 
several scenes (think about the "after-Snape" stuff - I won't say more  here 
since this is the movie list, after all) and Sirius has lines there -  we just 
don't see the adult Sirius.  I'm wondering if the young folks hired  to play the 
young Marauders will have matured too much to look like the "young  
Marauders" by film 7 - and they'll have to hire 11 year olds for those scenes  too, if 
they include them (and to explain Snape's backstory, they SHOULD include  them 
- but then again, it may all get cut, who knows??)
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 19:00:23 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:00:23 EDT
Subject: Dan in Details mag
Message-ID: <d3e.100305ff.33e77847@aol.com>

>> I found it very interesting 
in that article that he says  that his best friend, Will, is 41(!!!) <<


Will is the one who introduced Dan to the indie punk music he likes  so well 
(I think that's the right "designation" for that style of music - if I'm  
wrong, don't blame me, I'm old!  The Beatles were the rage when I was a  kid!).  
They've been good friends since the first film.  Dan was  picked on a lot at 
school - that's why his mum took him for his first audition,  to let him be able 
to say he'd done something none of the others had done - she  had no idea 
he'd get the part.  (Dan said this on some interview last month  - can't remember 
which one - maybe Conan O'Brian??  Or Jonathan  Ross???  Dunno.)  So he 
didn't have a lot of school chums, and I  suspect that, when he found someone with 
whom he discovered a common interest,  they just hit it off.  And as Dan 
quoted Will as saying, Dan's "a young  person in an old person's husk" (heehee - I 
like the sound of Will).  I've  had friends much younger or much older than 
me, if we have a shared, very strong  interest.  Heck, I'm the oldest person on 
FanFicAuthors authors' forum -  some of them are many decades younger than me 
- doesn't mean we don't enjoy each  other's company and conversation.  If a 
young person is mature enough, and  open to actually LISTENING to the older 
person, and the older person is young at  heart, such friendships aren't all that 
odd.  
 
And as for the set for that "Details" photo shoot - it looked like  a boy's 
bedroom to me, complete with a cowboy with a lariat, riding a horse,  sitting 
on the desk.  And Dan appeared to be texting something, or reading  from a 
Blackberry.  But the hood was just odd, as was the shot that was  sepia-toned, 
with Dan's hands blurry.  JMO.
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From smr330 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  5 19:29:02 2007
From: smr330 at comcast.net (musicman.1986)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:29:02 -0000
Subject: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F40209DC7FC7711F5A4617DB3EB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <f958du+uns6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Charlotte Roberts" <charober at ...>
wrote:

> Speaking of names, I couldn't help but notice something: at Harry's
hearing
> in OOTP, Fudge announced that the hearing is for "Harry James
Potter."  But
> "Harry" is actually a short form of the name Harold.... shouldn't
that have
> been the form of address if he was stating his full name there?  Just a
> little observation to consider.  ;)


Actually my father's legal name was Harry.  You're correct that it
often is a nickname for Harold, but not always!

musicman.1986



From ckc at rochester.rr.com  Mon Aug  6 02:47:01 2007
From: ckc at rochester.rr.com (CK Campbell)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:47:01 -0400
Subject: Question about OOTP
In-Reply-To: <d3e.100305ff.33e77847@aol.com>
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New to this list, so I don't know if you've covered this or if I could
possibly locate it on yahoo, but...

In the climactic battle scene, Sirius calls Harry "James" -- it's not in the
book that way.  Does anyone know if Gary Oldman (or anyone) has discussed
the decision to do this?  Was it Oldmans?  Or perhaps a directorial or
writer's decision?  It adds a whole new meaning to their relationship that
he does this.

Thanks, Carolyn




From bloggertracy at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 03:01:29 2007
From: bloggertracy at gmail.com (Tracy Woods)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 23:01:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Question about OOTP
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Carolyn:
" In the climactic battle scene, Sirius calls Harry "James" -- it's not in
the
book that way.  Does anyone know if Gary Oldman (or anyone) has discussed
the decision to do this?  Was it Oldmans?  Or perhaps a directorial or
writer's decision?  It adds a whole new meaning to their relationship that
he does this."


I can only figure that this was the movie way of hinting at the relationship
you're talking about, and that IS hinted at in the book...remember when Mrs.
Weasley argues with Sirius and says that Harry is not James...I think,
though I am not certain, that there is SOME point in the book where Sirius
does call Harry James.

Tracy
-Hopeless Harry Potter Fan


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From ivaldoo at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 06:14:01 2007
From: ivaldoo at yahoo.com (ivaldoo)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:14:01 -0000
Subject: movie 3 and book 7
Message-ID: <f96e79+10qu@eGroups.com>

Hi!

I quote this from wikipedia
"J. K. Rowling said she "got goosebumps" from seeing this film
because it contained things that inadvertently foreshadowed 
information to be revealed in coming books. This comment had created 
speculation among fans as to what these things were, but the mystery 
was solved with the release of the 7th book.DH Ch.30 & Ch.33"

Can anybody please help me to identify which scene in the PoA movie 
have the "inadvertently foreshadowed information" as mentioned by JKR
in DH, ch 30 (The Sacking of Severus Snape) and ch 33 (The Prince's
Tale).

TQ

-hal-







From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 18:27:04 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie
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          --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at ... wrote:
>
> 
> Rather than posting another reply, I wondered how you know, Lizzie 
May, that Draco's wearing a wig? I thought his hair looked a lot better 
than usual in  this film, but I thought maybe the had a different hair stylist or 
 something. Where was there a comment about Draco's thinning hair? 
I must've missed something somewhere.

  Lizzie Mae responded:
  Sorry, I no longer have the source (might have been Tom's website), 
but it was around the time of the filming of GoF. 
  akh offers:
  In the interview on GOF, not only does Tom Felton talk about not having to dye his hair anymore, he clearly shows a receding hairline.  I admit I haven't listened to it in a bit, but I'm sure he does, and I DEFINITELY know that you can observe his disappearing hair!  
   
  Lizzie Mae added:
  And it's not like there's no precedence for a Malfoy wearing a wig -- Jason Isaacs comes to mind! 

akh gushes:
   
  And it's a lovely one, too!
   
  akh, who has to admit Lucius (who's a lot closer in age to her than Dan) does have his visual charms...


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From graynavarre at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 18:55:25 2007
From: graynavarre at yahoo.com (Barbara Key)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:55:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
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--- "musicman.1986" <smr330 at comcast.net> wrote:
<SNIP>
> Actually my father's legal name was Harry.  You're
> correct that it
> often is a nickname for Harold, but not always!
> 
> 

It is also a nickname for Henry. 

"For Harry, England and St George!!"

Henry V.

Barbara



From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  6 20:36:15 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:36:15 -0000
Subject: Radcliffe  interview
Message-ID: <f980nv+4fdt@eGroups.com>

There is an interview of Dan Radcliffe in Q magazine, there is a
picture of him too but I almost didn't recognize him, he's growing a
beard. I think it will take less makeup than I originally thought for
him to play the last part of the last move. You can read a bit of the
interview at: 

http://news.q4music.com/2007/07/did_i_get_an_erection_during_e.html 

Eggplant





From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 21:11:56 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:11:56 -0000
Subject: movie 3 and book 7
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "ivaldoo" <ivaldoo at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> 
> I quote this from wikipedia
> "J. K. Rowling said she "got goosebumps" from seeing this film
> because it contained things that inadvertently foreshadowed 
> information to be revealed in coming books. This comment had 
created 
> speculation among fans as to what these things were, but the 
mystery 
> was solved with the release of the 7th book.DH Ch.30 & Ch.33"
> 
> Can anybody please help me to identify which scene in the PoA movie 
> have the "inadvertently foreshadowed information" as mentioned by 
JKR
> in DH, ch 30 (The Sacking of Severus Snape) and ch 33 (The Prince's
> Tale).
> 
> TQ
> 
> -hal-
>

It could be the scene on the bridge when Remus tells Harry about Lily 
being able to see things about people.  Sorry don't have the exact 
words.  Might have been foreshadowing the Lily/Sev relationship.

Snape's Witch





From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 22:05:10 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:05:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie oop! More explanation
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AnitaKH <anita_hillin at yahoo.com> wrote (apparently in a chemo fog):          

In the interview on GOF, not only does Tom Felton talk about not having to dye his hair anymore, he clearly shows a receding hairline. 
   
  No, you haven't gone dotty.  There were no interviews in GOF; however, there were interviews on the GOF DVD extras.  You probably figured that out on your own, but I HATE to leave out important information!
  akh, who should know better than to sit down and write after chemo, which is going fabulously well but still causes stupidity!


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From anita_hillin at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 22:14:12 2007
From: anita_hillin at yahoo.com (AnitaKH)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:14:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] movie 3 and book 7
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ivaldoo <ivaldoo at yahoo.com> wrote:          Hi!
  [cavalier snip of Wikipedia reference]

Can anybody please help me to identify which scene in the PoA movie 
have the "inadvertently foreshadowed information" as mentioned by JKR
in DH, ch 30 (The Sacking of Severus Snape) and ch 33 (The Prince's
Tale).

akh responds:
   
  In message 13934, I started a very short-lived thread on that, suggesting that the Buckbeak attack on Lupin foreshadows the Buckbeak attack on Snape in HBP, and the dialogue between Lupin and Harry, where Lupin calls Lily "unusually kind" and says she could see the beauty in others, especially when they could not see it in themselves foreshadows her relationship with Snape.  At one point, there was speculation that Harry losing his glasses at the whomping willow was foreshadowing, but I'm not sure what scene in 7 that would be.
   
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From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 22:13:00 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Radcliffe  interview
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eggplant107 <eggplant107 at hotmail.com> wrote: There is an interview of Dan Radcliffe in Q magazine, there is a
picture of him too but I almost didn't recognize him, he's growing a
beard. I think it will take less makeup than I originally thought for
him to play the last part of the last move. You can read a bit of the
interview at: 

http://news.q4music.com/2007/07/did_i_get_an_erection_during_e.html 


Nitara:
its just amazing how well he's grown up I think.

Love,
Nitara

       



From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue Aug  7 04:35:29 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:35:29 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan in Details mag
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Yes, you're right. I had just heard him mention his friend on several 
occasions and had it in my head that it was some young school chum. 
Have you ever seen any pix of Will?
I was also looking for pix of Dan's parents to see which one he 
resembles.
Was the woman playing his mum in the 'Extras' skit his actual mom?
I think Dan, having grown up with adults, and no siblings, would be 
very adept at adult conversation. When you hear Gary Oldman or David 
Thewlis talk about Dan they seem to admire him almost as a 
'contemporary'. That's why I love the scenes between him and Sirius, in 
the movies.
Val~
BTW, yes it is indie/punk music. I've been exposed to some great new 
Brit bands through Dan's interviews/websites. :-)

On Aug 5, 2007, at 3:00 PM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:
>  Will is the one who introduced Dan to the indie punk music he likes 
> so well
>  (I think that's the right "designation" for that style of music - if 
> I'm
>  wrong, don't blame me, I'm old! The Beatles were the rage when I was 
> a kid!).
>  They've been good friends since the first film. Dan was picked on a 
> lot at
>  school - that's why his mum took him for his first audition, to let 
> him be able
>  to say he'd done something none of the others had done - she had no 
> idea
>  he'd get the part. (Dan said this on some interview last month - 
> can't remember
>  which one - maybe Conan O'Brian?? Or Jonathan Ross??? Dunno.) So he
>  didn't have a lot of school chums, and I suspect that, when he found 
> someone with
>  whom he discovered a common interest, they just hit it off. And as Dan
>  quoted Will as saying, Dan's "a young person in an old person's husk" 
> (heehee - I
>  like the sound of Will). I've had friends much younger or much older 
> than
>  me, if we have a shared, very strong interest. Heck, I'm the oldest 
> person on
>  FanFicAuthors authors' forum - some of them are many decades younger 
> than me
>  - doesn't mean we don't enjoy each other's company and conversation. 
> If a
>  young person is mature enough, and open to actually LISTENING to the 
> older
>  person, and the older person is young at heart, such friendships 
> aren't all that
>  odd.




From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue Aug  7 14:24:57 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:24:57 EDT
Subject: Radcliffe  interview
Message-ID: <cfc.16887e54.33e9dab9@aol.com>

There is an interview of Dan Radcliffe in Q magazine, there is a
picture  of him too but I almost didn't recognize him, he's growing a
beard. I think  it will take less makeup than I originally thought for
him to play the last  part of the last move. You can read a bit of the
interview at: 

_http://news.http://news.http://news.http://nehttp://nehttp://nehttp_ 
(http://news.q4music.com/2007/07/did_i_get_an_erection_during_e.html)   

Eggplant


Those pics were posted in June because the issue came out in July  (IIRC) - 
there are a lot more pics like this on DanRadcliffe.com from that  interview.  
In one, he's looking straight at the camera, and with those big  eyes and the 
scruffy beard (and the headphones) he looks more like Elijah Wood  than ever!  
Elijah even wore his hair "spiky" like that after (or during?)  the filming 
of "Lord of the Rings."  Those pics were taken while Dan was  doing Equus, 
hence the beard.  Look at the pics of him as Jack Kipling with  a moustache ("My 
Boy Jack" - new pics are on DanRadcliffe.com - the ones with  the moustache are 
in the older set of two pics - the new set of six or seven  pics show him 
without the moustache and he just looks like Dan with slicked down  hair and an 
old-fashioned suit).  He looks a LOT older and a lot  different with his hair 
like that and the "fluffy" moustache of an older man  (although some boys can 
grow thick moustaches like that, it isn't something Dan  can do yet, from the 
looks of his beard).  I'm sure he'll do a fine job of  performing Harry at age 
36.
 
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue Aug  7 14:36:25 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:36:25 EDT
Subject: Dan in Details mag
Message-ID: <d4b.d96a670.33e9dd69@aol.com>

Yes, you're right. I had just heard him mention his friend on several  
occasions and had it in my head that it was some young school chum. 
Have  you ever seen any pix of Will?
I was also looking for pix of Dan's parents to  see which one he 
resembles.
Was the woman playing his mum in the 'Extras'  skit his actual mom?
I think Dan, having grown up with adults, and no  siblings, would be 
very adept at adult conversation. When you hear Gary  Oldman or David 
Thewlis talk about Dan they seem to admire him almost as a  
'contemporary''contemporary'<WBR>. That's why I love the scenes between h 
the movies.
Val~
BTW, yes it is indie/punk music. I've been exposed to  some great new 
Brit bands through Dan's interviews/websitesBrit ba<<
 
Thanks for confirming the terminology for that kind of music!   I've read 
"real" music critics who've said Dan has a good career ahead of him as  a scout 
for new bands, he's so good at picking bands that will become  hits.  I'd like 
to read an interview where he explains what he sees in  these bands and their 
music (other than "they're brilliant!") - a real analysis,  since he seems to 
be such a good judge of their music.
 
I haven't seen pics of Will, but from pics I've seen, Dan looks  like his dad 
- same smile.  I don't know what color hair his dad had to  start with, but 
his mum has dark hair like Dan's.  You can find these pics  on DanRadcliffe.com 
- look for a gray-haired man with glasses who's usually near  Dan but not 
RIGHT next to him (the ones next to him are bodyguards/minders),  particularly in 
the pics where he's signing autographs after Equus.  His  dad's the one near 
the stage door with a cup of coffee in his hand in some  pics.  In pics where 
Dan's much younger, his dad's the one by the car as  Dan's getting out.  There 
are pics of Dan walking down the street with his  mum (again, when he was 
much younger, maybe 13) where you can see her fairly  well.  She's very short, 
just 5 feet tall, which is why Dan feels "doomed"  about his height.  He used to 
say he'd like to be as tall as his dad.   But from the pics of his footprints 
at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood, his  feet are bigger than Rupert's, and 
while not always true, foot size is often an  indicator of height - kids' feet 
get fully grown long before their bodies finish  growing (hence the "puppy 
feet" stage of boys in middle school, whose feet are  huge while they're still 
small).  I think he'll grow a few more  inches!  Sure hope I'm right!  :)  It 
would make him very happy  to be taller, and we all want Dan to be happy, 
right?  :)
 
As for Oldman's and Thewlis's feelings for Dan - Oldman said he  "loves Dan 
like one of [his] own" kids.  Can't get any better than  that!  Conan O'Brian 
said Dan is one of his favorite interviews because  he's so nice (and he laughs 
a lot at Conan's jokes).  Other interviewers  have gone out of their way to 
say how nice, polite, and kind he is.  Other  actors say  he's very generous, 
kind and considerate.  Yikes, why  didn't the Radcliffes have more kids?  We 
could use more kind, considerate,  polite, nice people in the world!  LOL!  They 
really should write a  book on raising a child star to be a sane, 
responsible, nice, well-behaved  person.  Parents of Hollywood child stars should have 
that as  required reading.
 
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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  7 16:25:43 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:25:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Dan in Details mag
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artsylynda at aol.com wrote:    Yes, you're right. I had just heard him mention his friend on several 
occasions and had it in my head that it was some young school chum. 
Have you ever seen any pix of Will?
I was also looking for pix of Dan's parents to see which one he 
resembles.
Was the woman playing his mum in the 'Extras' skit his actual mom?
I think Dan, having grown up with adults, and no siblings, would be 
very adept at adult conversation. 
   
   
  He has no siblings? I thought he did for some reason. Huh...learn something new all the time.
   
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Wed Aug  8 12:19:17 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:19:17 EDT
Subject: Dan in Details mag
Message-ID: <ccf.13d68631.33eb0ec5@aol.com>

>>I was also looking for pix of Dan's parents to see which one he  
resembles.
Was the woman playing his mum in the 'Extras' skit his actual  mom?
I think Dan, having grown up with adults, and no siblings, would be  
very adept at adult conversation. <<


>>He has no  siblings? I thought he did for some reason. Huh...learn 
something new all the  time.

Jade<<
 
Dan is an only child.  Emma has a brother, Rupert is one of 4  or 5 kids (and 
he's the oldest, IIRC).  Tom Felton and Matt Lewis both have  brothers, both 
older (well, at least one older brother each, IIRC - that's all  I've read or 
heard them talk about).  Dunno about the rest of the  kids.
 
And no, that woman in Extras was an actress.  Dan's mum isn't  nearly so tall 
- but that actress sure did a good job - I loved when she said,  "Well, of 
course she is!" (hitting on Dan) " You're GORGEOUS!"  heehee  

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  8 18:39:38 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:39:38 -0000
Subject: More OOTP comments
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Message-ID: <f9d2la+74vb@eGroups.com>

---  Barbara Key <graynavarre at ...> wrote:
>
> --- "musicman.1986" <smr330 at ...> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > Actually my father's legal name was Harry.  You're
> > correct that it often is a nickname for Harold, 
> > but not always!
> > 
> > 

 
> It is also a nickname for Henry. 
> 
> "For Harry, England and St George!!"
> 
> Henry V.
> 
> Barbara
>

bboyminn:

Prince Harry = Henry Charles Albert David Windsor

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn




From que_44601 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  8 23:59:02 2007
From: que_44601 at yahoo.com (que_44601)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:59:02 -0000
Subject: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
Message-ID: <f9dlc6+318s@eGroups.com>

After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I
noticed a few things.

*When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his
friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-
haired boy.

*This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after
Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.

That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron
and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them
are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool
if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.

que_44601



From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 02:05:35 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
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Message-ID: <791559.53414.qm@web57307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

That is an interesting notion and I've noticed those scenes before myself. Not sure if that was what it was meant for because Cedric was dating Cho. of course that doesn't mean anything either sometimes.

Love,
Nitara

que_44601 <que_44601 at yahoo.com> wrote: After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I 
noticed a few things.

*When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his 
friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-
haired boy.

*This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after 
Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.

That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron 
and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them 
are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool 
if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.

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From arcturusfelire at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 02:55:18 2007
From: arcturusfelire at yahoo.com (arcturusfelire)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
Message-ID: <51181.91926.qm@web60713.mail.yahoo.com>

I don't know if its true or not, but I wish it was. I think it would be an incredible thing. But, alas, any sexuality beyond the 'norm' in Harry Potter is forbidden. Still, it would be incredibly cool if it existed. 
 
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----- Original Message ----
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To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 10:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?









  


    
            That is an interesting notion and I've noticed those scenes before myself. Not sure if that was what it was meant for because Cedric was dating Cho. of course that doesn't mean anything either sometimes.



Love,

Nitara



que_44601 <que_44601 at yahoo. com> wrote: After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I 

noticed a few things.



*When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his 

friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-

haired boy.



*This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after 

Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.



That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron 

and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them 

are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool 

if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.



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From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 03:10:42 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 20:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <51181.91926.qm@web60713.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <473558.32418.qm@web57308.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

That is why there is Fan fiction :)

Love,
Nitara

arcturusfelire <arcturusfelire at yahoo.com> wrote: I don't know if its true or not, but I wish it was. I think it would be an incredible thing. But, alas, any sexuality beyond the 'norm' in Harry Potter is forbidden. Still, it would be incredibly cool if it existed. 
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: "Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master" 
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 10:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?









  


    
            That is an interesting notion and I've noticed those scenes before myself. Not sure if that was what it was meant for because Cedric was dating Cho. of course that doesn't mean anything either sometimes.



Love,

Nitara



que_44601  wrote: After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I 

noticed a few things.



*When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his 

friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-

haired boy.



*This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after 

Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.



That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron 

and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them 

are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool 

if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.



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From stacygalore at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 04:37:36 2007
From: stacygalore at yahoo.com (stacygalore)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:37:36 -0000
Subject: Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
Message-ID: <f9e5mg+15oo@eGroups.com>

I'm so glad they were not, but imagine that the films were made in the United States.

The lead role would have to be played by a big name actor.   I think that kid from the Sixth
Sense would have been considered for the first two, then maybe Elijah Wood for the others.

The female roles in OP would have to be played by sexy actresses.  Imagine Lindsay Lohan as
Hermione (oh, wait, you don't have to imagine it - just find the SNL skit on youtube).
Imagine Lucy Lu as Cho Chang.  Ginny Weasley - one of the Olsen twins.

If the HP films were an American product, I believe they would have been a very different
affair.  I would have absolutely hated them, even more so than every scifi/fantasy book-
turned-movie made in this country .  But it is funny to imagine the glamorous mockery of it
all.

So now it is your turn.  Who would the american casting director choose for the big-budget
Hollywood blockbuster action film version of OP?

Stacy



From missygallant2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 12:50:25 2007
From: missygallant2000 at yahoo.com (Missy Gallant)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <f9e5mg+15oo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <270731.59974.qm@web33009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't know about director.  

But when I first read the book, I thought of Bebe
Neuwirth as McGonagall.  I think it's because of
Lilith Crane- it's just easy to imagine her with the
tight black haired bun.

I agree though, Hollywood would have butchered it.

Bruce Willis as Albus Dumbledore!

(Still hoping for Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore, but
I'm never going to get that, am I?)


--- stacygalore <stacygalore at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm so glad they were not, but imagine that the
> films were made in the United States.
> 
> The lead role would have to be played by a big name
> actor.   I think that kid from the Sixth
> Sense would have been considered for the first two,
> then maybe Elijah Wood for the others.
> 
> The female roles in OP would have to be played by
> sexy actresses.  Imagine Lindsay Lohan as
> Hermione (oh, wait, you don't have to imagine it -
> just find the SNL skit on youtube).
> Imagine Lucy Lu as Cho Chang.  Ginny Weasley - one
> of the Olsen twins.
> 
> If the HP films were an American product, I believe
> they would have been a very different
> affair.  I would have absolutely hated them, even
> more so than every scifi/fantasy book-
> turned-movie made in this country .  But it is funny
> to imagine the glamorous mockery of it
> all.
> 
> So now it is your turn.  Who would the american
> casting director choose for the big-budget
> Hollywood blockbuster action film version of OP?
> 
> Stacy
> 



       
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Aug  9 13:01:37 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:01:37 EDT
Subject: Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
Message-ID: <c29.1bf45277.33ec6a31@aol.com>

Actually, Haley Joel Osmont (the kid from the Sixth Sense) WAS  considered 
for Harry.  Steven Spielburg (sp?) was supposed to direct the  first film, but 
when he insisted on Osmont, he lost the gig, or left in a huff,  one or the 
other.  Thank goodness both JKR insisted on a British cast and  the Radcliffes 
insisted it be filmed in England!!  (WB wanted the cast to  move to Hollywood to 
shoot the first two films.  YIKES!)  And just  think of the lovely settings 
we would've lost if it had been shot in the US  - they've used Oxford, 
cathedrals, castles, that long bridge in Scotland for the  Hogwarts Express, etc., and 
the US doesn't have anyplace that can REALLY pass  for Scotland, IMO.  And 
the work ethic and sensibility of British child  stars and adult actors both is 
remarkable - no shenannigans on or off set other  than a few pranks, no 
demands for outrageous salaries (the British version of  the Screen Actors' Guild 
had to jump on WB for underpaying Dan for a role that  CARRIES all the films!).  
I don't want to think how it would be if the  series had been done in the US. 
 Staunch patriot that I am, the Brits have  outdone us this time!!
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From taguem at jmsearch.com  Thu Aug  9 13:50:52 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <f9e5mg+15oo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE010ZlxiMaOy0000304e@compdevsys.com>

Haley Osment was originally picked by Steven Spielberg for HP? and JKR said
no way? 

 

I can?t even grasp having a well known for the kids? I love the fact that I
didn?t have a mental of any of them before.  I adore Alan Rickman and could
totally separate him in this role from previous? and Ohhh how I love Maggie
Smith? I wish that Richard Harris lived long enough to bless us with him as
Dumbledore ?.

 

I love the movies? in a separate way of loving the books? 

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

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From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of stacygalore
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:38 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US

 

I'm so glad they were not, but imagine that the films were made in the
United States. 

The lead role would have to be played by a big name actor. I think that kid
from the Sixth 
Sense would have been considered for the first two, then maybe Elijah Wood
for the others.

The female roles in OP would have to be played by sexy actresses. Imagine
Lindsay Lohan as 
Hermione (oh, wait, you don't have to imagine it - just find the SNL skit on
youtube). 
Imagine Lucy Lu as Cho Chang. Ginny Weasley - one of the Olsen twins.

If the HP films were an American product, I believe they would have been a
very different 
affair. I would have absolutely hated them, even more so than every
scifi/fantasy book-
turned-movie made in this country . But it is funny to imagine the glamorous
mockery of it 
all.

So now it is your turn. Who would the american casting director choose for
the big-budget 
Hollywood blockbuster action film version of OP?

Stacy

 


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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug  9 14:17:37 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:17:37 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <f9e5mg+15oo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <001201c7da90$099cdf50$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stacygalore

>
>So now it is your turn.  Who would the american casting 
>director choose for the big-budget Hollywood blockbuster 
>action film version of OP?
>
>Stacy
>

Don't EVEN want to go there. Ugh. 





From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 18:38:06 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <EXCHANGE010ZlxiMaOy0000304e@compdevsys.com>
Message-ID: <894713.26315.qm@web57306.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

He wouldn't have fit the part at all I agree with her. He's a good actor but not for hp.

Love,
Nitara

Michelle Tague <taguem at jmsearch.com> wrote: Haley Osment was originally picked by Steven Spielberg for HP
 and JKR said
no way
 

 

I can?t even grasp having a well known for the kids
 I love the fact that I
didn?t have a mental of any of them before.  I adore Alan Rickman and could
totally separate him in this role from previous
 and Ohhh how I love Maggie
Smith
 I wish that Richard Harris lived long enough to bless us with him as
Dumbledore 
.

 

I love the movies
 in a separate way of loving the books
 

 

Have a great day!

 

Michelle Tague

   _____  

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of stacygalore
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:38 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US

 

I'm so glad they were not, but imagine that the films were made in the
United States. 

The lead role would have to be played by a big name actor. I think that kid
from the Sixth 
Sense would have been considered for the first two, then maybe Elijah Wood
for the others.

The female roles in OP would have to be played by sexy actresses. Imagine
Lindsay Lohan as 
Hermione (oh, wait, you don't have to imagine it - just find the SNL skit on
youtube). 
Imagine Lucy Lu as Cho Chang. Ginny Weasley - one of the Olsen twins.

If the HP films were an American product, I believe they would have been a
very different 
affair. I would have absolutely hated them, even more so than every
scifi/fantasy book-
turned-movie made in this country . But it is funny to imagine the glamorous
mockery of it 
all.

So now it is your turn. Who would the american casting director choose for
the big-budget 
Hollywood blockbuster action film version of OP?

Stacy

 


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From que_44601 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  9 19:04:25 2007
From: que_44601 at yahoo.com (que_44601)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:04:25 -0000
Subject: Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <001201c7da90$099cdf50$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <f9fofp+j34o@eGroups.com>

That's impossible to answer, at least for me. Daniel has starred in
them from the beginning and it's too hard to imagine anyone else
playing Harry, but DANIEL.

que_44601



From missygallant2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 10 14:11:20 2007
From: missygallant2000 at yahoo.com (Missy Gallant)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:11:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <f958du+uns6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <571001.5002.qm@web33015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

And remember, Prince Harry is Harry- not Harold.

Harry is a very British name.

--- "musicman.1986" <smr330 at comcast.net> wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Charlotte
> Roberts" <charober at ...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of names, I couldn't help but notice
> something: at Harry's
> hearing
> > in OOTP, Fudge announced that the hearing is for
> "Harry James
> Potter."  But
> > "Harry" is actually a short form of the name
> Harold.... shouldn't
> that have
> > been the form of address if he was stating his
> full name there?  Just a
> > little observation to consider.  ;)
> 
> 
> Actually my father's legal name was Harry.  You're
> correct that it
> often is a nickname for Harold, but not always!
> 
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 10 17:50:15 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:50:15 -0000
Subject: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <571001.5002.qm@web33015.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f9i8gn+pltt@eGroups.com>

---  Missy Gallant <missygallant2000 at ...> wrote:
>
> And remember, Prince Harry is Harry- not Harold.
> 
> Harry is a very British name.
> 


bboyminn:

You are only half right. As I've already pointed out
Prince Harry's full name is -

HENRY Charles Albert David Windsor

Harry = Henry.

Steve/bboyminn




From jazmyn at pacificpuma.com  Sat Aug 11 01:20:49 2007
From: jazmyn at pacificpuma.com (Jazmyn Concolor)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:20:49 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
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No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series of books published by a 
company who would not even entertain the idea of a gay character. 
Theres no canon in the books for it at all.  The actor who played the 
character might be gay.. but not the character.  Warner Bros would not 
knowingly show a gay character in the movie either.

note: Resting your head against someone of the same gender or hugging 
them DOES NOT make you gay....Where did you get the idea it did?

Jazmyn

que_44601 wrote:
> 
> 
> After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I
> noticed a few things.
> 
> *When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his
> friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-
> haired boy.
> 
> *This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after
> Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.
> 
> That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron
> and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them
> are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool
> if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.
> 
> que_44601
> 
> 




From ladymela99 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 11 01:41:52 2007
From: ladymela99 at yahoo.com (Melanie)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
In-Reply-To: <001201c7da90$099cdf50$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <72676.27977.qm@web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>So now it is your turn. Who would the american casting 
>director choose for the big-budget Hollywood blockbuster 
>action film version of OP?
>
>Stacy

  The only one I would have enjoyed to see is Johnny Depp as Sirius.  Although, I did like Gary Oldman.
   
  ~Melanie

 



From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug 11 05:13:32 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:13:32 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
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YIKES; I'm so glad it is an all-British series. It makes it so much 
more believable.
I love Lord of the Rings, but the guy that plays Samwise had a lame 
british accent (sorry! I know he's Patty Duke Astin's son!) Elijah did 
a decent job of it with Frodo. And Viggo Mortenson played a great 
Aragorn.  But it's so iffy when you 'fake it' like that. I forget in 
what interview, but someone asked Dan Rad if his accent was real. LOL! 
Thank goodness it is; I love all those actors. And thank goodness Dan's 
parents insisted on staying in London and not moving to Hollywood. I 
cringe to think what would've happened to those kids here, in the 'wild 
west'. :-)
Valerie




From artsylynda at aol.com  Sat Aug 11 14:14:37 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:14:37 EDT
Subject: Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
Message-ID: <d0b.158b48ac.33ef1e4d@aol.com>

>>I love Lord of the Rings, but the guy that plays Samwise had  a lame 
british accent (sorry! I know he's Patty Duke Astin's son!) Elijah  did 
a decent job of it with Frodo. And Viggo Mortenson played a great  
Aragorn. But it's so iffy when you 'fake it' like that. I forget in 
what  interview, but someone asked Dan Rad if his accent was real. LOL! 
Thank  goodness it is; I love all those actors. And thank goodness Dan's 
parents  insisted on staying in London and not moving to Hollywood. I 
cringe to think  what would've happened to those kids here, in the 'wild 
west'.  :-)
Valerie<<

Actors do other accents all the time, with  more or less success.  When you 
saw Alfred Molina as "Doc Ock" in  "Spiderman 2" did you realize he's actually 
English?  He does a great  American accent.  Hugh Laurie, who plays "House" is 
English.  Anthony  LaPaglia who plays "Jack" on that FBI series where they 
find missing people (my  brain just hiccupped, can't think of the name - oh, 
"Without a Trace"!   Yeah, that's it) is Australian, as is Poppy Montgomery, the 
pretty blond on that  show.  Dan Radcliffe does a credible Aussie accent 
(Adelaide version,  according to him and an interviewer from Adelaide who said his 
accent was "spot  on") in "December Boys." Some are better at accents than 
others.  Sean  Astin's accent wasn't as well-done as Elijah Wood's in LOTR, but 
not everyone  has an ear for accents.  But for someone to ask Dan if his real 
accent was  real - LOL!  I haven't seen that interview!  What a dumb 
interviewer  (who didn't do their homework!).
 
It's interesting in the HP films to hear all the different  accents of the 
actors - the kids are from all over England, Scotland and  Ireland.  I wonder 
why Devon Murray's Irish accent is so much stronger than  Evanna Lynch's, when 
she's from Ireland too?  Brits and Irish people would  know, I suppose, or 
perhaps her mother, like mine, refused to let Evanna sound  like a "country" girl 
and trained her to have a more posh or "lighter" accent  (I'm Southern, and my 
mother refused to allow me to use Southern expressions  like "right sorry" - 
as a consequence, I have mostly a "mid-American" accent  with Southern 
"touches" here and there).  Is Maggie Smith really Scottish  (I don't know, 
honestly)?  Her Scot accent is lovely, whether fake or  real.  
 
I'm glad we have REAL accents to listen to in the films,  rather than actors 
trying to have the proper accent, no matter how good they  are.  The small 
variations in their accents from region to region are  fascinating to hear.
 

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 12 19:36:13 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:36:13 -0000
Subject: DH - Time and Space -[Spoiler-ish]
Message-ID: <f9nnfd+9v3o@eGroups.com>

I'm curious how many people have read 'The Bartimaeus
Trilogy' by Jonathan Stroud? In the climactic scene near
the end of the first book -

*** Spoilers(ish) to Follow ***

'The Amulet of Samarkand'

- there is a scene that takes place in a large room in
which a giant demon has been called up. The Demon is
blundering around the room killing people, and turns
toward the Hero, as he has the Amulet, and begins to
advance. 

This was the only part of the book that I found 
somewhat unbelievable, though I still certainly 
enjoyed the scene over all. The giant could likely
cross the room in 4, or 5 steps. Yet, that is much too
fast as the Hero needs to do lots of things as the 
giant is walking toward him. Don't want to give away 
too much, but the Hero in the moment has a few other 
evil distractions.

So, my point is we have a distortion of time and
space. That is, the many things the Hero must do, 
doesn't fit in the available time and space.

Now, let's switch back to 'Harry Potter and the Deathly
Hallows' -

*** Again Spoiler(ish) to Follow ***

Once again we have a climatic battle scene contained
in a small space (actually a couple of small spaces, OK,
big spaces, but the point is, the scene is contained),
and once again we have an unlikely distortion of
available time, space, and the presence of other
people.

I can picture the HP Movie Producer throwing his 
head down on his desk after reading 'Deathly Hallows'
and groaning 'Oh my God, what is she trying to do
to us!'. 

This type of climatic scene is extremely difficult 
to film because you can have a 'time and space'
distortion in a book that you simply can't have in
a real-time film. 

Without giving too much away to those who haven't 
read the final book, how do you imagine the movie
makers will be able to effectively film this 
climactic scene? 

Also, how can they make what was 'climatic' in the 
books, seem equally climatic and exciting in a 
movie? For example, this scene includes a long 
monologue by one of the key characters. Monologue
/dialogs may work in books, but they usually don't
do so well in movies when they represent the most
critical point in that movie.

Overall, I would say that JKR has set out an 
extremely difficult task for the movie makers. 

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Mon Aug 13 11:38:59 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:38:59 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Imagine the HP films were cast in the US
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On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:14 AM, artsylynda at aol.com wrote:
> But for someone to ask Dan if his real
>  accent was real - LOL! I haven't seen that interview! What a dumb
>  interviewer (who didn't do their homework!).

Valerie:
Actually it was a live-feed of a kid being interviewed waiting in line 
for the opening night of Order of the Phoenix. Obviously not as 
well-versed in Potter-trivia as we are. Hee! :-)




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Mon Aug 13 11:57:53 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:57:53 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] OotP MOM scene
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I was rereading the dramatic Voldemort/Dumbledore/Order climactic 
chapter in OotP last night. I wanted to see how different it was from 
the movie. I was happy to see that some of the dialogue was directly 
lifted from the book.
Ex: when Sirius says "Good one!" to Harry. Of course he didn't add the 
"James" in the book, though, IMO, that was a somewhat weak afterthought 
attempt to show how Sirius is relating Harry too much to James. I wish 
they had left the fire-talk scene in there for clarification. Ah well.
Also when Dumbledore says "You shouldn't have come here Tom. The aurors 
will be here any minute now."
We know they left an awful lot out like the spinning room, the brains, 
those glass bell jars. (I was kind of looking forward to seeing that 
guy's head turn into a baby head. Ewww, creepy!)
I hadn't remembered that when Harry was chasing after Bellatrix he 
opening a door and fell into a void. I guess that is what that scene in 
the movie was loosely supposed to be. When all the kids fell through 
the void and stopped a foot above the ground.
I think the narrative worked better in that the flow from room-to-room 
in the ministry was more easy to follow. It was very simplified in the 
movie, in that it all took place in the prophecy room or the Veil Arch 
room.
The kids and the Order got beat up quite a bit more in the book. 
Hermione knocked out; Jenny too; Neville's broken nose, Tonks falling 
down the stairs, etc.
I do however think that the scene between Voldemort and Dumbledore was 
waaaayy more spectacular in the movie, as well as Harry's possession. 
Though I wish they had left the part in where Voldemort-in-Harry says 
"If Death means nothing, than kill the boy, Dumbledore." That was very 
disturbing in the book, and would've shown the supreme angst that 
Dumbledore faced in having to make a choice between wanting to rid the 
wizarding world of Voldemort, or protecting Harry. This as we know, 
plays heavily in DH.
Valerie




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Tue Aug 14 03:44:40 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:44:40 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] DH - Time and Space -[Spoiler-ish]
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References: <f9nnfd+9v3o@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <9a8d571fa2be4a5f8a33d10b676209ab@verizon.net>

Steve,
I haven't read The Bartimaeus Trilogy, but I see the dilemma in what 
you are talking about.
I assume, in DH, that you are speaking of the scene where anyone and 
everyone converges on the Hogwarts grounds and then inside the castle 
for the big battle?
This scene reminded me very much of one of the Lord of the Rings mega 
battle scenes or Narnia. They were able to do it well, and I'm sure the 
HP director will too, with a lot of CG creatures.
Maybe for simplicity they'll keep it all happening on the grounds? 
Although IF they film it in the same location as the last 3 movies, it 
will be difficult to find a huge expanse of ground. They changed the 
landscape after COS from flat, green lawns, to rocky hillsides.
And as for the grand monologues, we know from experience that they get 
chopped way down (as in all of Dumbledore's end-of-book wrap-up 
speeches.)
I was wondering today what the 'remains' of Voldemort will look like. I 
imagine less than the creepy small creature he was in GOF? I guess he 
finally realized what Dumbledore meant when he said that there are 
worse things than death!
Valerie

On Aug 12, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Steve wrote:

> I'm curious how many people have read 'The Bartimaeus
>  Trilogy' by Jonathan Stroud? In the climactic scene near
>  the end of the first book -
>
>  *** Spoilers(ish) to Follow ***
>  *** Again Spoiler(ish) to Follow ***
>
>  Once again we have a climatic battle scene contained
>  in a small space (actually a couple of small spaces, OK,
>  big spaces, but the point is, the scene is contained),
>  and once again we have an unlikely distortion of
>  available time, space, and the presence of other
>  people.
>
>  I can picture the HP Movie Producer throwing his
>  head down on his desk after reading 'Deathly Hallows'
>  and groaning 'Oh my God, what is she trying to do
>  to us!'.
>
>  This type of climatic scene is extremely difficult
>  to film because you can have a 'time and space'
>  distortion in a book that you simply can't have in
>  a real-time film.
>
>  Without giving too much away to those who haven't
>  read the final book, how do you imagine the movie
>  makers will be able to effectively film this
>  climactic scene?
>
>  Also, how can they make what was 'climatic' in the
>  books, seem equally climatic and exciting in a
>  movie? For example, this scene includes a long
>  monologue by one of the key characters. Monologue
>  /dialogs may work in books, but they usually don't
>  do so well in movies when they represent the most
>  critical point in that movie.
>
>  Overall, I would say that JKR has set out an
>  extremely difficult task for the movie makers.




From kchuplis at alltel.net  Tue Aug 14 19:11:49 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:11:49 -0500
Subject: You have to wonder
Message-ID: <000001c7dea6$f746faf0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

What this is all about?

http://www.hpana.com/news.20081.html

At the U.S. premiere of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Sunday,
producer David Heyman confirmed to HPANA the casting of two 11-year-old
red-haired children for the next film, Half-Blood Prince,[who] will play
minor twin characters who are not culled from JK Rowling's sixth novel. 





From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 14 19:37:27 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:37:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <000001c7dea6$f746faf0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <341982.67286.qm@web57306.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

That is confusing not sure what that means either


Love,
Nitara

Karen <kchuplis at alltel.net> wrote: What this is all about?

http://www.hpana.com/news.20081.html

At the U.S. premiere of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Sunday,
producer David Heyman confirmed to HPANA the casting of two 11-year-old
red-haired children for the next film, Half-Blood Prince,[who] will play
minor twin characters who are not culled from JK Rowling's sixth novel. 





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From missygallant2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 14 20:15:22 2007
From: missygallant2000 at yahoo.com (Missy Gallant)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <341982.67286.qm@web57306.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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To me it means that he's adding stuff to the book like
the guy with the shrunken head did.  Oh wait, and like
he did with this movie and that little boy that I
can't remember his name.

It also means that something else is about to get cut.


--- "Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master"
<nitarazendel at yahoo.com> wrote:

> That is confusing not sure what that means either
> 
> 
> Love,
> Nitara
> 
> Karen <kchuplis at alltel.net> wrote: What this is all
> about?
> 
> http://www.hpana.com/news.20081.html
> 
> At the U.S. premiere of Harry Potter and the Order
> of the Phoenix Sunday,
> producer David Heyman confirmed to HPANA the casting
> of two 11-year-old
> red-haired children for the next film, Half-Blood
> Prince,[who] will play
> minor twin characters who are not culled from JK
> Rowling's sixth novel. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Tue Aug 14 20:59:45 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:59:45 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <632647.11022.qm@web33005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c7deb6$0b01ccf0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

I liked that little Michael scene in OoTP.  

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Gallant
>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:15 PM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] You have to wonder
>
>To me it means that he's adding stuff to the book like the guy 
>with the shrunken head did.  Oh wait, and like he did with 
>this movie and that little boy that I can't remember his name.
>
>It also means that something else is about to get cut.
>
>
>--- "Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master"
><nitarazendel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> That is confusing not sure what that means either
>> 
>> 
>> Love,
>> Nitara
>> 
>> Karen <kchuplis at alltel.net> wrote: What this is all about?
>> 
>> http://www.hpana.com/news.20081.html
>> 
>> At the U.S. premiere of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 
>> Sunday, producer David Heyman confirmed to HPANA the casting of two 
>> 11-year-old red-haired children for the next film, Half-Blood 
>> Prince,[who] will play minor twin characters who are not culled from 
>> JK Rowling's sixth novel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 15 06:17:41 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:17:41 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder - Michael or Nigel?
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> I liked that little Michael scene in OoTP.  
> 


erm...Michael? ...Michael?

Are you sure you don't mean Nigel, the kid who seems
to have replaced Colin and Dennis Creevey?

Could never figure out why they didn't just call
him Dennis and leave the rest to our imaginations.

Just curious.

Steve/bboyminn





From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Aug 15 13:37:12 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:37:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder - Michael or Nigel?
In-Reply-To: <f9u5q5+b19g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c7df41$62f944c0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

LOL! No, in OoTP (The Movie), Fred and George are comforting that little
blond kid and they ask his name which is "Michael". It's a made up scene
with a made up kid, but I really liked it. Yeah, I think "Nigel" is Dennis
and Colin smooshed together. Poor little blighter :D 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:18 AM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder - Michael or Nigel?
>
>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>>
>> I liked that little Michael scene in OoTP.  
>> 
>
>
>erm...Michael? ...Michael?
>
>Are you sure you don't mean Nigel, the kid who seems to have 
>replaced Colin and Dennis Creevey?
>
>Could never figure out why they didn't just call him Dennis 
>and leave the rest to our imaginations.
>
>Just curious.
>
>Steve/bboyminn
>
>





From tobyfoot23 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 15 20:52:27 2007
From: tobyfoot23 at yahoo.com (tobyfoot23)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:52:27 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <632647.11022.qm@web33005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f9vp2b+ilce@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Missy Gallant 
<missygallant2000 at ...> wrote:
>
> To me it means that he's adding stuff to the book like
> the guy with the shrunken head did.  Oh wait, and like
> he did with this movie and that little boy that I
> can't remember his name.
> 


Could they be the kids that Crabbe and Goyle turn into using Polyjuice 
potion?  I think the girl with the scales outside the room of 
requirement was described as having red hair.

Tobyfoot23




From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Aug 15 21:17:34 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:17:34 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
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Ohhh. I bet you are right! 

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>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Missy Gallant 
><missygallant2000 at ...> wrote:
>>
>> To me it means that he's adding stuff to the book like the guy with 
>> the shrunken head did.  Oh wait, and like he did with this movie and 
>> that little boy that I can't remember his name.
>> 
>
>
>Could they be the kids that Crabbe and Goyle turn into using 
>Polyjuice potion?  I think the girl with the scales outside 
>the room of requirement was described as having red hair.
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 15 22:12:09 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:12:09 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <f9vp2b+ilce@eGroups.com>
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--- "tobyfoot23" <tobyfoot23 at ...> wrote:
>
> --- , Missy Gallant <missygallant2000@> wrote:
> >
> > To me it means that he's adding stuff to the book
> > like the guy with the shrunken head did.  Oh wait,
> > and like he did with this movie and that little 
> > boy that I can't remember his name.
> > 
> 
> 
> Could they be the kids that Crabbe and Goyle turn 
> into using Polyjuice potion?  I think the girl with
> the scales outside the room of requirement was 
> described as having red hair.
> 
> Tobyfoot23
>

bboyminn:

Or...it could be they want to introduce a few new
Weasley cousins early on, so when we see them in the
final book, we already know who they are. They could
be searching for the boy who will have to play 
Harry transformed into a Weasley.

Which brings up another thought. At the Wedding, at 
Godrics Hollow, and at the Ministry, it is not 
actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; meaning Dan,
Rupert, and Emma. It will have to be older people 
pretending to be the Trio pretending to be the older
people. That should be interesting to see.

There is also the problem that occurred in CoS, that
was glossed over in GoF. In CoS, Harry and Ron look
different but they sound the same, meaning they
sound like normal Harry and Ron but look like Grabbe
and Goyle. I guess they are hoping we will have 
forgotten that little incident by now. 

I don't see an easy task ahead for the movie makers.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn




From SnapesSlytherin at aol.com  Thu Aug 16 01:58:12 2007
From: SnapesSlytherin at aol.com (SnapesSlytherin at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:58:12 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
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 Um...I don't think that just because it's a children's book doesn't mean people can't be gay.? The evidence for such was a bit weak, but I'm rather offended by your assertion that homosexuality is banned from all children's literature.? Actually, I'm a lot offended.? How can you say that Warner Brothers wouldn't knowingly show a gay character?? I'm not sure whether you're saying that these outlets of media do not support homosexuality or you yourself are saying that children should be kept away from it.

Oryomai


 


 

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From: Jazmyn Concolor <jazmyn at pacificpuma.com>
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?


















  



    

            
No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series of books published by a 

company who would not even entertain the idea of a gay character. 

Theres no canon in the books for it at all.  The actor who played the 

character might be gay.. but not the character.  Warner Bros would not 

knowingly show a gay character in the movie either.



note: Resting your head against someone of the same gender or hugging 

them DOES NOT make you gay....Where did you get the idea it did?



Jazmyn



que_44601 wrote:

> 

> 

> After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I

> noticed a few things.

> 

> *When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his

> friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-

> haired boy.

> 

> *This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after

> Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.

> 

> That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron

> and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them

> are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool

> if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.

> 

> que_44601

> 

> 





    
  

    
    




 


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From arcturusfelire at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 02:12:12 2007
From: arcturusfelire at yahoo.com (arcturusfelire)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:12:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
Message-ID: <135483.66211.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>

I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended by Jazmyn's assertions as well. Of course I choose to completely ignore her entire post, but your response was better than mine. A child's book can and do have homosexual themes inside them and I see nothing wrong with teaching children that their are those that are different. 

I find myself quite quite offended. 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:58:12 PM
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 Um...I don't think that just because it's a children's book doesn't mean people can't be gay.? The evidence for such was a bit weak, but I'm rather offended by your assertion that homosexuality is banned from all children's literature.? Actually, I'm a lot offended.? How can you say that Warner Brothers wouldn't knowingly show a gay character?? I'm not sure whether you're saying that these outlets of media do not support homosexuality or you yourself are saying that children should be kept away from it.



Oryomai



-----Original Message-----

From: Jazmyn Concolor <jazmyn at pacificpuma. com>

To: HPFGU-Movie@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 9:20 pm

Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?



No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series of books published by a 



company who would not even entertain the idea of a gay character. 



Theres no canon in the books for it at all.  The actor who played the 



character might be gay.. but not the character.  Warner Bros would not 



knowingly show a gay character in the movie either.



note: Resting your head against someone of the same gender or hugging 



them DOES NOT make you gay....Where did you get the idea it did?



Jazmyn



que_44601 wrote:



> 



> 



> After watching "Goblet of Fire" for the past couple of weeks, I



> noticed a few things.



> 



> *When Harry came out to talk to Cedric, who was relaxing with his



> friends, Cedric was laying on the bench with his head on this brown-



> haired boy.



> 



> *This same brown-haired boy was the first one to hug Cedric after



> Cedric put his name in the goblet and also after he was named champion.



> 



> That made me wonder if perhaps he was gay. Also, at the ball where Ron



> and Hermione are arguing, on the steps are three girls and two of them



> are holding hands and sitting really close. I think it would be cool



> if a couple of the students were gay, but I was just wondering.



> 



> que_44601



> 



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From liviatasia at comcast.net  Thu Aug 16 02:21:22 2007
From: liviatasia at comcast.net (Rohirrim)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:21:22 -0700
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Was Cedric Diggory gay?
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Message-ID: <003101c7dfac$23d02140$ae10734c@yourat5qgaac3z>



Arcturus wrote:

>I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended by Jazmyn's assertions 
>as well. Of course I choose to completely ignore her entire post, but your 
>response was better than mine. A child's book can and do have homosexual 
>themes inside them and I see nothing wrong with teaching children that 
>their are those that are different.
>
> I find myself quite quite offended.



Jazmyn wrote:

> No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series of books published by a 
> company who would not even entertain the idea of a gay character.
>

Tasia here:

I'm new here forgive me if I've got the reply format down incorrectly. I was 
kind of shocked to read the reply about a company not entertaining the idea 
of a gay character. I had to reread it because I was certain I did not read 
it correctly!

I noticed that in the movie too about Cedric and it crossed my mind about 
him possibly being gay and I thought, well cool! Arcturus is correct - 
there's nothing wrong with teaching children that there are those that are 
different and if anything I bet it is something that could be helpful for 
kids that might be going through the stage of finding out who they are.

Excellent list by the way - glad I finally found it!




From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 04:03:04 2007
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:03:04 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <f9vtnp+igus@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa0i9o+kti1@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

> At the Wedding, at Godrics Hollow, and at the Ministry, it is not 
> actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; meaning Dan,
> Rupert, and Emma. It will have to be older people 
> pretending to be the Trio pretending to be the older
> people. That should be interesting to see.


How about "The Seven Potters" chapter? It will be a real challenge for 
the actor to play seven different "Harrys" and make them all 
recognizable, IMO :-).

zanooda 




From stacygalore at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 04:15:30 2007
From: stacygalore at yahoo.com (stacygalore)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:15:30 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <fa0i9o+kti1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa0j12+f2oh@eGroups.com>

 "zanooda2"  wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> 
> > At the Wedding, at Godrics Hollow, and at the Ministry, it is not 
> > actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; meaning Dan,
> > Rupert, and Emma. It will have to be older people 
> > pretending to be the Trio pretending to be the older
> > people. That should be interesting to see.
> 
> 
> How about "The Seven Potters" chapter? It will be a real challenge for 
> the actor to play seven different "Harrys" and make them all 
> recognizable, IMO :-).

Stacy here:
I think it will be very interesting indeed, but for another reason.  When the decoys take the 
polyjuice potion and become Harry, they strip their clothing and put on different robes.  
Harry is shocked at how easily the others are ready to bare their bodies while taking on his 
form.  Watching seven Daniel Radcliffes strip will be a real treat for fans like me ; )
 tee-hee-hee





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 07:06:04 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:06:04 -0000
Subject: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <003101c7dfac$23d02140$ae10734c@yourat5qgaac3z>
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---  "Rohirrim" <liviatasia at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Arcturus wrote:
> 
> > I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended
> > by Jazmyn's assertions as well. ... A child's book
> > can and do have homosexual themes inside them and
> > I see nothing wrong with teaching children that 
> > their are those that are different.
> >
> > ...
> 
> 
> 
> Jazmyn wrote:
> 
> > No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series
> > of books published by a company who would not even
> > entertain the idea of a gay character.
> >
> 
> Tasia here:
> 
> ... I was kind of shocked to read the reply about a
> company not entertaining the idea of a gay character.
> I had to reread it because I was certain I did not read 
> it correctly!
> 
> ...

bboyminn:

Let's not be too hard on Jazmyn. It is easy to come
off sounding harsh in print when you are trying to
emphasize a point. It happens to all of us. 

Whether Cedric is gay or not I don't know. I think
to some extent, Movie!Cedric's actions simply 
represent a comfortableness and ease with his close
friends. I think that is what was intended to be 
portrayed. 

However, I think there is one person in the books
who seems clearly gay in the subtext. Professor
Grubblyplank. Short severe haircut, course with
the boys, gentle with the girls. She's got
Butch written all over her.

But still, I think it is better that JKR NOT overtly 
show gay characters, not because it is a children's
book, but because it opens it up to the imagination
of the individual, as millions of Slash Fan Fictions
will attest. 

If you are a gay person, you can find comfort in the
characters that you most identify with and find whatever
subtext you like, and imagine them as a role model for
yourself. 

Seems much more flexible that way. 

Steve/bboyminn




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Aug 16 12:06:58 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:06:58 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Umbridge torture
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I didn't. I felt it was a waste of precious air time. They had already 
established 3x, (through Harry and then through the group detention, 
and then again, walking out of detention when Cho approached Harry and 
he blew her off), that Umbridge was torturing kids. This scene came 
RIGHT after the Snape's worst memory scene, when it would've been so 
much more advantageous to the understanding of the plot to have A) 
Harry in the common room telling Hermione and Ron what he had just seen 
and how upset he was at his dad's bullying behavior. Then B) he 
could've called up Sirius in the fire, as in the book, and had that 
important conversation with him. That would've taken all of 5 minutes, 
and they wouldn't have had to throw in that somewhat jarring "Good One 
James!" from Sirius in the M.O.M. battle.
My 2 knuts! :-)
Valerie

On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Karen wrote:

> I liked that little Michael scene in OoTP.
>




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Aug 16 12:15:09 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:15:09 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
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> LOL :-)
Dan's done Equus; he should have no problem 'getting his kit off' for 
HP, as well as in the 'Kings Cross' scene when he wakes up naked. Ha!
I imagine they will 'CG' the 7 Harrys scene though. Look at all the 
amazing things they've done already!
Valerie

>  Stacy here:
>  I think it will be very interesting indeed, but for another reason. 
> When the decoys take the
>  polyjuice potion and become Harry, they strip their clothing and put 
> on different robes.
>  Harry is shocked at how easily the others are ready to bare their 
> bodies while taking on his
>  form. Watching seven Daniel Radcliffes strip will be a real treat for 
> fans like me ; )
>  tee-hee-hee




From missygallant2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 12:52:30 2007
From: missygallant2000 at yahoo.com (Missy Gallant)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <f9vtnp+igus@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <699299.27449.qm@web33012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Which brings up another thought. At the Wedding, at 
> Godrics Hollow, and at the Ministry, it is not 
> actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; meaning Dan,
> Rupert, and Emma. It will have to be older people 
> pretending to be the Trio pretending to be the older
> people. That should be interesting to see.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
> 
I don't think we'll see the Wedding.  Bill has yet to
be in a movie.  So I think they'll simply skip the
wedding.  There will probably be a small party
gathered for Harry's birthday when Kingsley's patronus
appears.  

Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see the wedding, I
just have my doubts.  And if Fleur and Bill aren't in
the next movie, I'm certain we won't see the wedding. 
All of the Shell Cottage footage could just as easily
happen at the Weasley's house. 



       
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug 16 13:20:00 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:20:00 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <fa0i9o+kti1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000901c7e008$25ffcdb0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

 
I imagine that will be a technical computer generated thing. 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of zanooda2
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:03 PM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
>
>--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
>> At the Wedding, at Godrics Hollow, and at the Ministry, it is not 
>> actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; meaning Dan, Rupert, and Emma. 
>> It will have to be older people pretending to be the Trio pretending 
>> to be the older people. That should be interesting to see.
>
>
>How about "The Seven Potters" chapter? It will be a real challenge for 
>the actor to play seven different "Harrys" and make them all 
>recognizable, IMO :-).
>
>zanooda 
>





From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug 16 13:25:26 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:25:26 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <fa0t0s+l2q1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c7e008$e839c9d0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

 
>bboyminn:
>
>Let's not be too hard on Jazmyn. It is easy to come off 
>sounding harsh in print when you are trying to emphasize a 
>point. It happens to all of us. 
>
>Whether Cedric is gay or not I don't know. I think to some 
>extent, Movie!Cedric's actions simply represent a 
>comfortableness and ease with his close friends. I think that 
>is what was intended to be portrayed. 

To me it just seems like a very British old school atmosphere thing. How
many books or movies have you seen where the British academia types are
portrayed as a bunch of very close knit group of boys within their class. I
mean, isn't that where the whole fraternity thing comes from?





From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug 16 13:32:28 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:32:28 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Umbridge torture
In-Reply-To: <3aca6d0fc8a9634e441b248fc175e08e@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c7e009$e41d9560$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

I thought it managed to really solidify Fred and George's raucous exit, give
it heft and reason. To me the scene was much more about Fred and George than
Umbridge or Harry. Since it would have taken a whole 'nother montage of all
the stuff they were pulling in place of one tiny short scene. Plus, I really
loved seeing that caring side of Fred and George. 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Flowe
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:07 AM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Umbridge torture
>
>I didn't. I felt it was a waste of precious air time. They had 
>already established 3x, (through Harry and then through the 
>group detention, and then again, walking out of detention when 
>Cho approached Harry and he blew her off), that Umbridge was 
>torturing kids. This scene came RIGHT after the Snape's worst 
>memory scene, when it would've been so much more advantageous 
>to the understanding of the plot to have A) Harry in the 
>common room telling Hermione and Ron what he had just seen and 
>how upset he was at his dad's bullying behavior. Then B) he 
>could've called up Sirius in the fire, as in the book, and had 
>that important conversation with him. That would've taken all 
>of 5 minutes, and they wouldn't have had to throw in that 
>somewhat jarring "Good One James!" from Sirius in the M.O.M. battle.
>My 2 knuts! :-)
>Valerie
>
>On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Karen wrote:
>
>> I liked that little Michael scene in OoTP.
>>
>
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug 16 13:40:09 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:40:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <699299.27449.qm@web33012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c7e00a$f673afa0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Gallant
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:53 AM
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
>
>> Which brings up another thought. At the Wedding, at Godrics Hollow, 
>> and at the Ministry, it is not actually Harry, Ron, and/or Hermione; 
>> meaning Dan, Rupert, and Emma. It will have to be older people 
>> pretending to be the Trio pretending to be the older people. That 
>> should be interesting to see.
>> 
>> Steve/bboyminn
>> 
>I don't think we'll see the Wedding.  Bill has yet to be in a 
>movie.  So I think they'll simply skip the wedding.  There 
>will probably be a small party gathered for Harry's birthday 
>when Kingsley's patronus appears.  
>
>Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see the wedding, I just 
>have my doubts.  And if Fleur and Bill aren't in the next 
>movie, I'm certain we won't see the wedding. 
>All of the Shell Cottage footage could just as easily happen 
>at the Weasley's house. 
>

It just depends, I think, on how much info we need from Auntie Muriel. They
could indeed replace it with Harry's birthday. On the other hand, they go to
Bill and Fleur's place later. We haven't seen Bill, but we HAVE met Fleur.
Be interesting. 

Personally, I feel the biggest corner they have written themselves into is
the missing mirror.





From G3_Princess at MailCity.com  Thu Aug 16 17:14:32 2007
From: G3_Princess at MailCity.com (rowena_grunnionffitch)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:14:32 -0000
Subject: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <46BD0EF1.2090207@pacificpuma.com>
Message-ID: <fa20lo+cqr7@eGroups.com>

  In the books definitely not - he and Cho are an item you may 
remember. And I rather doubt any such implication was intended in
the movie either. Oddly enough not all shows of physical affection
are sexual.

  Rowena




From fooleryt1 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 17:29:16 2007
From: fooleryt1 at yahoo.com (fooleryt1)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:29:16 -0000
Subject: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <fa0t0s+l2q1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa21hc+7dca@eGroups.com>

> >
> > .> ..

> bboyminn:
> <snip>
> Whether Cedric is gay or not I don't know. I think
> to some extent, Movie!Cedric's actions simply
> represent a comfortableness and ease with his close
> friends. I think that is what was intended to be
> portrayed.
>
> However, I think there is one person in the books
> who seems clearly gay in the subtext. Professor
> Grubblyplank. Short severe haircut, course with
> the boys, gentle with the girls. She's got
> Butch written all over her.


fooleryt1:
  If someone was gay in the movies let's look at
Madam Hooch. She is your typical gay stereotype.






From marion11111 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 14:08:46 2007
From: marion11111 at yahoo.com (marion11111)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:08:46 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <000c01c7e00a$f673afa0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <fa1lpe+vvri@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
> 
> It just depends, I think, on how much info we need from Auntie Muriel. They
> could indeed replace it with Harry's birthday. On the other hand, they go to
> Bill and Fleur's place later. We haven't seen Bill, but we HAVE met Fleur.
> Be interesting. 
> 
> Personally, I feel the biggest corner they have written themselves into is
> the missing mirror.
>

marion11111:

And that locket!  They will need to suddenly remember seeing a locket that for some 
reason Kreacher would have wanted and Mundungus (who we have yet to meet) would 
have stolen.  I suppose they could change it entirely and skip the whole Dung and 
Umbridge aspect - thereby also skipping the entire Ministry scene - and just have 
Kreacher show them the locket and tell his and Regulus' story.  

Or maybe the housecleaning will be written into the HBP screenplay.

But you're right.  Now that Sirius is dead, there is no way to have that mirror be Sirius' gift 
to Harry.  I guess someone else will have to give Harry a mirror to break.






From kchuplis at alltel.net  Thu Aug 16 17:56:45 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:56:45 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <fa1lpe+vvri@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7e02e$cf5fada0$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

 

>marion11111:
>
>And that locket!  They will need to suddenly remember seeing a 
>locket that for some reason Kreacher would have wanted and 
>Mundungus (who we have yet to meet) would have stolen.  I 
>suppose they could change it entirely and skip the whole Dung 
>and Umbridge aspect - thereby also skipping the entire 
>Ministry scene - and just have Kreacher show them the locket 
>and tell his and Regulus' story.  
>
>Or maybe the housecleaning will be written into the HBP screenplay.
>
>But you're right.  Now that Sirius is dead, there is no way to 
>have that mirror be Sirius' gift to Harry.  I guess someone 
>else will have to give Harry a mirror to break.
>

Hmm, yes, the locket is a problem but it *was* just a footnote in the book.
I think it can be got around. I *was* thinking at lunch, Dobby has always
come when Harry wanted him. It might just be that Harry calls for him. It
would work. 





From taguem at jmsearch.com  Thu Aug 16 18:53:23 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:53:23 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Was Cedric Diggory gay?
In-Reply-To: <fa0t0s+l2q1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <EXCHANGE01WZKXJOncb00002e83@compdevsys.com>

Agreed.  And if she was going so far as to make Cedric gay?why go to the
trouble then of having him take Cho to the ball?

 

 

Michelle 

   _____  

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:06 AM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Was Cedric Diggory gay?

 

--- "Rohirrim" <liviatasia at -...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Arcturus wrote:
> 
> > I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended
> > by Jazmyn's assertions as well. ... A child's book
> > can and do have homosexual themes inside them and
> > I see nothing wrong with teaching children that 
> > their are those that are different.
> >
> > ...
> 
> 
> 
> Jazmyn wrote:
> 
> > No, he isn't.. Its based on a children's series
> > of books published by a company who would not even
> > entertain the idea of a gay character.
> >
> 
> Tasia here:
> 
> ... I was kind of shocked to read the reply about a
> company not entertaining the idea of a gay character.
> I had to reread it because I was certain I did not read 
> it correctly!
> 
> ...

bboyminn:

Let's not be too hard on Jazmyn. It is easy to come
off sounding harsh in print when you are trying to
emphasize a point. It happens to all of us. 

Whether Cedric is gay or not I don't know. I think
to some extent, Movie!Cedric'-s actions simply 
represent a comfortableness and ease with his close
friends. I think that is what was intended to be 
portrayed. 

However, I think there is one person in the books
who seems clearly gay in the subtext. Professor
Grubblyplank. Short severe haircut, course with
the boys, gentle with the girls. She's got
Butch written all over her.

But still, I think it is better that JKR NOT overtly 
show gay characters, not because it is a children's
book, but because it opens it up to the imagination
of the individual, as millions of Slash Fan Fictions
will attest. 

If you are a gay person, you can find comfort in the
characters that you most identify with and find whatever
subtext you like, and imagine them as a role model for
yourself. 

Seems much more flexible that way. 

Steve/bboyminn

 


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From joxy at inet.karoo.co.uk  Thu Aug 16 19:10:27 2007
From: joxy at inet.karoo.co.uk (joxy)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:10:27 -0000
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <135483.66211.qm@web60723.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fa27f3+kcos@eGroups.com>

Which of these quotations from jazmyn offended you?

1> Cedric isn't gay.
2> The publisher would not "entertain" the idea of a gay character.
3> There's no canon in the books for a gay character.
4> The actor might be gay but not the character.
5> Warner Bros would not knowingly show a gay character.
6> Resting your head against someone of the same gender or hugging 
   them DOES NOT make you gay.

I'm gay and none of them offended me.
2 and 5 are unfortunate facts; the rest are simple facts.

The only offence was from the beginning of this topic, the idea that
because Cedric got on well with other boys he must be gay!

A couple of questions for you:
If you ignored the entire post how could you be offended?
Who said anything about teaching children anything?
Oh, and "those that are different" - that's a bit offensive isn't it?!

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, arcturusfelire
<arcturusfelire at ...> wrote:
>
> I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended by Jazmyn's
assertions as well. Of course I choose to completely ignore her entire
post....I see nothing wrong with teaching children that their are
those that are different. 
> 
> I find myself quite quite offended. 
> 
> Arcturus
>  





From SnapesSlytherin at aol.com  Thu Aug 16 20:26:46 2007
From: SnapesSlytherin at aol.com (SnapesSlytherin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:26:46 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] (unknown)
In-Reply-To: <fa27f3+kcos@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <8C9AE5AE6A78481-8E0-22E0@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com>

I don't think that 2 and 5 facts at all.? I think it's sad that people will think of them as such.

I don't think the character of Cedric is gay.? I don't even think the actor is gay.? I didn't respond to the idea of Cedric being gay, I responded to the idea that it's not possible.

I also don't think the end sarcasm was called for.

Oryomai
Founding and Current Vice President of Duquesne University's Lambda (Gay-Straight Alliance)


-----Original Message-----
From: joxy <joxy at inet.karoo.co.uk>
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 3:10 pm
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] (unknown)






Which of these quotations from jazmyn offended you?

1> Cedric isn't gay.
2> The publisher would not "entertain" the idea of a gay character.
3> There's no canon in the books for a gay character.
4> The actor might be gay but not the character.
5> Warner Bros would not knowingly show a gay character.
6> Resting your head against someone of the same gender or hugging 
them DOES NOT make you gay.

I'm gay and none of them offended me.
2 and 5 are unfortunate facts; the rest are simple facts.

The only offence was from the beginning of this topic, the idea that
because Cedric got on well with other boys he must be gay!

A couple of questions for you:
If you ignored the entire post how could you be offended?
Who said anything about teaching children anything?
Oh, and "those that are different" - that's a bit offensive isn't it?!

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, arcturusfelire
<arcturusfelire at ...> wrote:
>
> I completely agree with you Oryomai, I was offended by Jazmyn's
assertions as well. Of course I choose to completely ignore her entire
post....I see nothing wrong with teaching children that their are
those that are different. 
> 
> I find myself quite quite offended. 
> 
> Arcturus
> 



 

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 23:02:17 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:02:17 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <fa0j12+f2oh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa2l1p+p7rp@eGroups.com>

---  "stacygalore" <stacygalore at ...> wrote:
>
>  "zanooda2"  wrote:
> >
> > ---  "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> > 
> > > At the Wedding, at Godrics Hollow, and at the 
> > > Ministry, it is not actually Harry, Ron, and/or
> > > Hermione; meaning Dan, Rupert, and Emma. It will
> > > have to be older people pretending to be the 
> > > Trio pretending to be the older people. That 
> > > should be interesting to see.
> > 
> > 
> > How about "The Seven Potters" chapter? It will be
> > a real challenge for the actor to play seven 
> > different "Harrys" and make them all  recognizable,
> > IMO :-).
> 
> Stacy here:
> I think it will be very interesting indeed, but for
> another reason.  When the decoys take the polyjuice 
> potion and become Harry, they strip their clothing 
> and put on different robes. Harry is shocked at how
> easily the others are ready to bare their bodies 
> while taking on his form.  Watching seven Daniel 
> Radcliffes strip will be a real treat for fans like
>  me ;)  tee-hee-hee
>

bboyminn:

Well, the 'Seven Potters' is a perfect example. 
Naturally Dan will be playing them all, but he will
have to play not Harry but Fred looking like Harry.
So that even though we physically see Harry, Fred
is still going to have to shine through.

This becomes even more difficult in the other 
Polyjuice scenes because other actors will have to
play their characters, but they will also have to
allow a subtle elements of Dan, Rupert, and Emma
to show through; a look, a gesture, the turn of
a phrase. If the underlying character doesn't show
through in some small way, it's going to be hard to
be convinced, it is Dan/Harry, or Rupert/Ron. 

And finally, imagine Harry's surprise in the 'Seven
Potters' scene when he looks over at Hermione and
sees himself wearing a bra. I wonder if the movie
makers will think of that little detail? 

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn




From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 01:47:41 2007
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:47:41 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
In-Reply-To: <fa2l1p+p7rp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa2unt+7tos@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

> And finally, imagine Harry's surprise in the 'Seven Potters' scene 
> when he looks over at Hermione and sees himself wearing a bra. I 
> wonder if the movie makers will think of that little detail?


Hmm, I don't think there will be any stripping in this scene in the 
movie :-). More than that, Hermione (and Fleur, if they will 
reintroduce her) will be probably wearing very baggy clothes, so that 
no bras could be seen under them :-).

BTW, we don't have enough characters for this scene, because 
Mundungus, Bill and Fleur are all missing from the movie. Will they 
bring back Fleur? Will they introduce Dung and Bill? Honestly, I'm 
not sure they will. It may be a very different scene in the movie ;-(.


zanooda 







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 03:29:30 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:29:30 -0000
Subject: OOTP Movie
In-Reply-To: <f73ltm+jon2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa34mq+e6nc@eGroups.com>

SPOILER SPACE
W
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Y
H
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N
'
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Y
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U
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E
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E
M
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?

Carol:

To respond to the spoiler-space question, I had to wait until August
13 when a certain person was back from North Carolina!

Veronica wrote:
<snip> 
> BUT yes, I was FURIOUS that Bellatrix AK'd Sirius.  WAY too off-canon.

Carol:

It was uncanonical, true, but I think the writer and director wanted
Sirius Black to be unambiguously dead, not leaving the audience
wondering (as many readers did) whether he would come back from behind
the Veil. Having Bellatrix AK him certainly took away from his
reckless daring in dueling on the dais of the Veil (as well as his
surprise as he's flung backward alive through the Veil), but as I
said, they wanted the audience to know definitively that Bellatrix had
murdered him. I also think that his part was rewritten to make him a
more sympathetic character than he is in the books (not so brooding
and self-absorbed) and to make Harry's loss seem greater.

Just my opinion after having seen the film belatedly and only once.

Carol, wishing she had a transcript of Snape's lines, which are also
rather different from the book 





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 03:37:32 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:37:32 -0000
Subject: OOTP Movie
In-Reply-To: <f73s70+h0pr@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa355s+902q@eGroups.com>

bridgetteakabiit wrote:
> <snip>
> I like how they had to contradict themselves, since in Goblet of
Fire the movie stated that Barty Jr torchered the Longbottoms, and
Neville  had to set the story strait. <snip>

Carol responds:

Well, yes and no. The Longbottoms were canonically tortured by a team
of four DEs: Bellatrix Lestrange; her husband, Rodolphus; his brother,
Rabastan, and Barty Crouch Jr. (who was a boy of nineteen and not a
man in his thirties as in the GoF film, but oh, well). So it wasn't so
much setting the story straight as confusing viewers who haven't read
the books, IMO.

Carol, wondering why Rabastan is even in the books since JKR keeps
forgetting that she's created him but understanding why both Lestrange
brothers were left out of the films





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 03:45:17 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:45:17 -0000
Subject: OOTP SPOILER - Spells used
In-Reply-To: <cac.152c56ef.33c6d541@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fa35kd+eerg@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CMeehan1 at ... wrote:
>
> Yes, Levicorpus was used in "Snape's Worst Memory" in the OotP book,
 HOWEVER, Harry doesn't learn how to use it until HBP.  Remember - he
uses  it on Ron...  

 
Carol responds:

Not to mention that it's "<nvbl>," so Harry didn't even know the
incantation (though he'd seen the spell used on Teen!Severus and
evidently by one of the DEs in GoF, who flipped a Levitated Muggle
upside down) until he read it in the HBP's book. I really hope the HBP
screenwriter just forgets that it was included in the OoP film and
goes by the (Potions) book. It will be really funny to see Ron
suspended by his ankle.

Carol, who thought that OoP (the film) was too short and choppy and
hopes that HBP will be at least half an hour longer






From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 03:56:10 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:56:10 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
In-Reply-To: <f73vi7+3nnk@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa368q+ej11@eGroups.com>

SSS wrote:



> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> 
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
> 
> I really thought that Yates & Goldenberg by and large did an amazing
job of cutting out things which made *sense* to cut out.  Taking what
was the longest book and turning it into the shortest movie seemed
impossible, but they did a nice job, I thought, of figuring out what
was logical to remove or tweak.
<snip>
> 
> Also, why have Harry hear the prophecy *at* the DoM, rather than 
later, in DD's office?  Why cut the 'Big Talk in DD's Office' which 
is supposed to be Harry *really* angry and then DD *really* 
> emotional as well?  As it came out, it was woefully brief and fairly 
> emotionally flat.  <snip>

Carol respponds:

I had the same reaction to the talk. I can see why it was shortened,
but why rob it of all emotional impact? And what about Harry's
resentment of Snape? And having Harry hear the Prophecy at the MoM (as
much as they left in) means that the DEs heard it, too, so LV's rage
at Lucius Malfoy in the next two films will be stripped of its motive.

Also, didn't having Cho confess to Umbridge mean that Umbridge used
Veritaserum on her, which would mean that Snape must have supplied her
with real rather than fake Veritaserum? If so, there goes his subtle
undermining of Umbridge. And he didn't even get his Babbling Beverage
line or his order to crabbe to release his chokehold on Neville. Sigh!

Carol, who thought that Snape seemed more sinister and scary in this
film than the earlier ones, possibly to prepare for the "murder" in HBP





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 04:26:32 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:26:32 -0000
Subject: OOTP Movie  and one question answered
In-Reply-To: <534515.90973.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fa381o+g6rr@eGroups.com>

MJ wrote:
>   But, at least one question was answered.  With Michael Gambon also
playing the bartender at the Hogs Head, we can probably rest assured
that "the bartender" and "Aberforth" are one and the same.


Carol responds:
I don't think the actor who plays the bartender is Michael Gambon. The
IMDb lists him as Jim McManus. As for whether the bartender is
Aberforth, you can find the answer to that question, yea or nay, by
reading "Deathly Hallows."

Carol, who didn't like the bartender's funny little beard and thought
it should be fuller and longer (though not tied in a rubber band like
Gambon's. When are they going to give him some new, Dumbledoresque robes?)

P.S. On a wholly unrelated note, one thing I did like was the
photograph of Cedric Diggory in the RoR. Nice touch!




From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Aug 17 17:17:54 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:17:54 EDT
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
Message-ID: <cbe.126c30da.33f73242@aol.com>

>>having Harry hear the Prophecy at the MoM  (as
much as they left in) means that the DEs heard it, too, so LV's  rage
at Lucius Malfoy in the next two films will be stripped of its  motive.<<
 
I don't believe anyone heard it but Harry.  He touched  it and he saw the 
face inside the sphere (which neither looked nor sounded like  Trelawney, IMO), 
but nobody else reacted to it.  Imagine the horror his  friends would have 
expressed at SOME point if they'd heard that prophecy and  figured out that it 
meant Harry might have to die to kill Voldemort!  So  some magical thing happened 
there, so only Harry heard it.  And now it's  gone, which will make Voldie 
VERY unhappy indeed!  :)
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

My blog: _www.abraxan.blogspot.com_ (http://www.abraxan.blogspot.com/)   
Read my Harry Potter fics here: 
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire/)   




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 17 19:50:30 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:50:30 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
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---  "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> 
> Carol respponds:
> 
> I had the same reaction to the talk. I can see why
> it was shortened, but why rob it of all emotional 
> impact? And what about Harry's resentment of Snape?
> And having Harry hear the Prophecy at the MoM ... 
> means that the DEs heard it, too, so LV's rage at 
> Lucius Malfoy in the next two films will be stripped
> of its motive.
> 
> Also, didn't having Cho confess to Umbridge mean that
> Umbridge used Veritaserum on her, which would mean 
> that Snape must have supplied her with real rather 
> than fake Veritaserum? If so, there goes his subtle
> undermining of Umbridge. And he didn't even get his
> Babbling Beverage line or his order to Crabbe to 
> release his choke hold on Neville. Sigh!
> 

bboyminn:

Do you get the feeling that the Movie Makers are
painting themselves into a corner? Leaving out so
many critical aspects that they won't be able to
effectively pull it together in the end? 

I do agree that the movie makers are so intent on
keeping the movie short that they skimp on any 
character or plot development. How can I become
emotionally invested in a story or a character, 
when it is little more than 'stand here, say your
line; move over there say you line -- next scene'. 

In another discussion, people were speculating on
ideal directors for the final film; someone
suggested Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings). I
don't know whether he would be ideal or not, but
I know he is not afraid to linger; to linger in
a moment or to linger on a face to allow some
emotion to develop. 

I think the current director showed the best 
potential at capturing the mood of Hogwarts and the
wizard world. I saw great potential in his film. But
at the same time, why should I care about Sirius? Why
should I be sad that he died? A wink and a hug from
Sirius for Harry certainly aren't enough to make 
us care. 

And who couldn't have known that the Locket was 
important? Now, they have many many things that
are important to the last movie that they never
bother to develop in the earlier movies. They
are going to be play a lot of 'catch up' in the
next two. 

Roger Ebert (I believe) said something to the 
effect that no good movie is ever long enough, and
not bad movie is every short enough. Make a good
movie and the audience won't care how long it is. 

I've said this before, but the relevant deleted scenes
on the DVD usually run 10 to 15 minutes of extra movie,
and the certainly make the movies make more sense. 
Would any of us really get up and walk out if the 
movies were 10 to 15 minutes longer; I don't think
so. 

Perhaps the next movie will improve and clear up some
of the discrepancies that have crept in. Now that
they can see the end, they know what they have to do,
and perhaps can now spend a little time doing it.


> Carol, who thought that Snape seemed more sinister
> and scary in this film than the earlier ones, 
> possibly to prepare for the "murder" in HBP
>

bboyminn:

It's all camera angles and attitude. The best Snape
portrayals are in the first and the current (OotP)
movies because they shoot Snape from a low angle
and that enhances how sinister and intimidating he
looks. 

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 03:54:57 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:54:57 -0000
Subject: OOTP SPOILER - Spells used
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, CMeehan1@ wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Levicorpus was used in "Snape's Worst Memory" in the OotP 
book,
>  HOWEVER, Harry doesn't learn how to use it until HBP.  Remember - 
he
> uses  it on Ron...  
> 
>  
> Carol responds:
> 
> Not to mention that it's "<nvbl>," so Harry didn't even know the
> incantation (though he'd seen the spell used on Teen!Severus and
> evidently by one of the DEs in GoF, who flipped a Levitated Muggle
> upside down) until he read it in the HBP's book. I really hope the 
HBP
> screenwriter just forgets that it was included in the OoP film and
> goes by the (Potions) book. It will be really funny to see Ron
> suspended by his ankle.
> 
> Carol, who thought that OoP (the film) was too short and choppy and
> hopes that HBP will be at least half an hour longer
>


I don't believe the spell is meant to be Levicorpus.  The victim is 
*not* held up by his ankle, he's prone whilst being levitated very 
much like the Muggle magician's trick.  Yates and Goldenberg *do* 
know what Levicorpus looks like, they filmed SWM after all. ;-)

Lizzie
aka
Snape's Witch





From marion11111 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 04:03:55 2007
From: marion11111 at yahoo.com (marion11111)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:03:55 -0000
Subject: OOTP SPOILER - Spells used
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> Lizzie said:
> 
> I don't believe the spell is meant to be Levicorpus.  The victim is 
> *not* held up by his ankle, he's prone whilst being levitated very 
> much like the Muggle magician's trick.  Yates and Goldenberg *do* 
> know what Levicorpus looks like, they filmed SWM after all. ;-)
> 


marion11111:
This wasn't one of the things I was watching for so I can't say for sure, but I think I remember 
someone (maybe Luna) saying Levicorpus either in the Room of Requirement or at the 
Ministry.  I remember having a brief "Hunh?" and then just forgot it.  Anyone else remember 
this?




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 04:06:13 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:06:13 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Also, didn't having Cho confess to Umbridge mean that Umbridge used
> Veritaserum on her, which would mean that Snape must have supplied her
> with real rather than fake Veritaserum? If so, there goes his subtle
> undermining of Umbridge. And he didn't even get his Babbling Beverage
> line or his order to crabbe to release his chokehold on Neville. Sigh!
> 
> Carol, who thought that Snape seemed more sinister and scary in this
> film than the earlier ones, possibly to prepare for the "murder" in 
HBP
>

If Severus gave Umbridge real veritaserum for the students why was Cho 
the only one who spilled the beans?  That's what didn't make sense to 
me.  Umbridge offered tea to the first student so I assume it was 
doped.  Perhaps Cho was the last one interrogated and she might have 
panicked from anxiety and betrayed the DA. See what happens when you 
vear away from the story! 

Taken as a whole I enjoyed the movie very much (two viewings -- so 
far), but there are inconsistencies aplenty!! 

Lizzie 







From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 04:08:51 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:08:51 -0000
Subject: OOTP Movie  and one question answered
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--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> MJ wrote:
> >   But, at least one question was answered.  With Michael Gambon also
> playing the bartender at the Hogs Head, we can probably rest assured
> that "the bartender" and "Aberforth" are one and the same.
> 
> 
> Carol responds:
> I don't think the actor who plays the bartender is Michael Gambon. The
> IMDb lists him as Jim McManus. As for whether the bartender is
> Aberforth, you can find the answer to that question, yea or nay, by
> reading "Deathly Hallows."
> 

You're right, Carol.  The second time I saw the movie I made a point of 
checking out Aberforth (oops, I mean the bartender) and he doesn't look 
a bit like Gambon.  Loved the goat though!

Lizzie




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Sat Aug 18 11:50:49 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:50:49 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: OotP deleted scenes
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> Does anyone know how we can, at this point, petition to have as much 
> of the deleted scenes as possible put on the DVD? I've heard they will 
> not have Bella's deleted scenes and I'm dying to see all of that. Do 
> you think  the DVDs have already been cut? Who can we contact? Would 
> it be Warner Bros? It's clear that there are parts that were filmed, 
> but cut (based on interviews, and some photos). Since they chose to 
> trim the film down so tight (why? WHY?!) they could at least appease 
> the avid HP fans with the DVD. They will no doubt do a "Special 
> Edition" DVD, as they did with GOF, to make a few extra bucks. There 
> will be plenty of room on that one to show the deletes. As it is, the 
> HP deleted scenes are always so brief. :-(  I seriously want to write 
> a letter and see what can be done before it's too late.

Valerie, who would LOVE for Peter Jackson to shoot DH. I've said before 
that last battle scene at Hogwarts was quite reminiscent of LOTR. And 
we know we'd have LOTS of extras for the DVD. Yah!

>  bboyminn:
>
>    I've said this before, but the relevant deleted scenes
>  on the DVD usually run 10 to 15 minutes of extra movie,
>  and the certainly make the movies make more sense.
>  Would any of us really get up and walk out if the
>  movies were 10 to 15 minutes longer; I don't think
>  so.
>




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 15:52:59 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:52:59 -0000
Subject: where was Harry's big scene?
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Karen (I thin--unsigned post) wrote: 
> You know, I didn't miss the screaming etc. I liked his demeanor in 
the scene they had, because in the movie it was not immediately after
like in the book. I did wish that scene had been about twice as long 
and explored the prophecy a bit more. But I felt that Harry had the 
right kind of emotion there since they had showed him packing. We got
the raw grief when it happened (which I personally felt was extremely
 effective.)
>
Carol responds:

Unfortunately, we didn't see Trelawney rising from the Pensieve,
didn't hear the whole Prophecy (and the DEs heard it the same part
that LV had already heard, so LV has no reason to be angry with
Lucius), and there was nothing about the eavesdropper, which
eliminates the big reveal of the eavesdropper being Snape, as Harry
learns in HBP. Could lead to problems with both the HBP and DH movies.
Same with eliminating Lily's bit part. She was cast; it must have been
filmed. Why let the editors cut it? And we also lose Harry's moment of
empathy with young Snape and his (temporary) disillusionment with his
arrogant, bullying father. Some things should not be cut.

As for why they left out Harry's tantrum, I guess that's not the side
of Harry they're trying to promote (not to mention Harry as role model
for child viewers). What adult Muggle could say calmly, "by all means,
continue destroying my possessions. I daresay I have too many." It's a
great Dumbledorean line, one of my favorites, but, unfortunately, I
can't magically restore any possessions that an enraged child or
teenager demolishes.

Nothing about Snape in that scene, either. Did moviegoers who haven't
read the books understand that *he* sent the Order to save the kids?

Carol, who liked the film but felt that it left too much out,
especially regarding Snape




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 16:35:07 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:35:07 -0000
Subject: Aberforth Dumbledore???
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Someone wrote:
> Concerning the discussion about the barman in the Hog's Head, . . .

> . . . Prof. Wootshanks may be right because here is what IMDB 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/fullcredits  says . . .
> 
>       Jim McManus ...  Barman
> 
Troy Bogdan replied:
> 
> IMDB (like Wikipedia) has been known to be wrong on occasion, but it
is  usually pretty good.

Carol responds:

I think that the IMDb is correct in this instance. Here's a still shot
from Leaky Cauldron:

http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/picture/109731#

Definitely Aberforth but not played by Michael Gambon. Must be Jim
McManus, as the IMDb states. (Did anyone catch the credits? I didn't
stay for them.)

Carol, who can't quite follow the attributions in this post and
apologizes to the "someone" who is unattributed




From swartell at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 16:52:56 2007
From: swartell at yahoo.com (Sue Wartell)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: where was Harry's big scene?
Message-ID: <299142.60440.qm@web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


I've interspersed my comments to save having to repeat Carol's comments.


Carol responds:



Unfortunately, we didn't see Trelawney rising from the Pensieve,

didn't hear the whole Prophecy (and the DEs heard it the same part

that LV had already heard, so LV has no reason to be angry with

Lucius), 



>>Sue now:

But that is actually a reason for him to be angry - he wanted to hear the REST of the prophecy, and now he can't.  He was sure there was more.



Carol again:

and there was nothing about the eavesdropper, which

eliminates the big reveal of the eavesdropper being Snape, as Harry

learns in HBP. Could lead to problems with both the HBP and DH movies.


>>Sue now:
I don't see it that way - I think finding out that Snape told Voldemort about the prophecy will have a tremendous impact on Harry, irrespective of whether he knew ahead of time that someone was eavesdropping on the prophecy. 


Carol again:

Same with eliminating Lily's bit part. She was cast; it must have been

filmed. Why let the editors cut it? And we also lose Harry's moment of

empathy with young Snape and his (temporary) disillusionment with his

arrogant, bullying father. Some things should not be cut.


>>Sue now:
I agree entirely!  Actually I'm very disappointed with the  loss of many of the details, and I would like to have seen all of these scenes, too.  What I am disagreeing with is the idea that it will cause heartburn in the film makers of the coming films.  They've had no trouble reconfiguring the grounds between movies, or substituting one Dumbledore for another (though they didn't have a choice there, of course.)  They changed Flitwick.  They've added and deleted bits of the buildings without any comment (shrunken heads in the Three Broomsticks???, and that long covered walkway/bridge at the school, for examples off the top of my head.)  Also worth noting is that things that are critical in the next picture will have to be shown in context in that picture.  So for the locket, for example, even if they had showed them trying to open it and failing in this film, they would have had to flash back to that scene, or have someone recount the story in the last
 film, if they even care about the fact that the trio saw it before.  Film makers seem to have a different set of conventions about sequels than novelists.  They seem much less interested in planting clues in one episode to be reaped in another episode.  (Just my observation, and I'm not a big film buff, so I may be basing my opinion on a sample size that is too small to be representative.)

I enjoy the movies, but they are not the same as the books - different media, different story-telling conventions, different timeframes for the action to unfold.  In general, I prefer books to movies.  And I think each of the Harry Potter movies should have been at least 30 min. longer than it was.  But that's not the way the filmmakers have chosen to tell the story.  I wish it were different, but so it goes.



 











       
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From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug 18 17:57:00 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:57:00 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
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>From: "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:03:04 -0000
>
>How about "The Seven Potters" chapter? It will be a real challenge for
>the actor to play seven different "Harrys" and make them all
>recognizable, IMO :-).
>
>zanooda

I kinda figured Dan would have to do a myriad of shots to play all seven 
Polyjuice Harrys.  ;)  They can probably use the voices of the different 
characters that are originally disguised as Harry, like in COS where they 
let Dan and Rupert talk in their original voices temporarily, unlike in the 
book where Crabbe and Goyle's voices come out naturally when they're 
Polyjuiced.

Charlotte





From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug 18 18:00:42 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:00:42 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
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>From: "stacygalore" <stacygalore at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:15:30 -0000
>
>Stacy here:
>I think it will be very interesting indeed, but for another reason.  When 
>the decoys take the
>polyjuice potion and become Harry, they strip their clothing and put on 
>different robes.
>Harry is shocked at how easily the others are ready to bare their bodies 
>while taking on his
>form.  Watching seven Daniel Radcliffes strip will be a real treat for fans 
>like me ; )
>  tee-hee-hee

OMG, I can't believe I failed to think about that!  LOL.  Thanks for opening 
up my eyes Stacy, though I wonder how far they'd actually go with that in 
the movie!  I'm sure they at least keep their underwear on!  ;)  But 
remember in COS how they have to put Slytherin robes on first?  Maybe they'd 
cut to that in the movie before they drink the Polyjuice Potion like in COS.

Charlotte





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 18:02:49 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:02:49 -0000
Subject: OotP-my review/ spoilers for Potioncat, so if you do not want them, skip til
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Alla wrote:
<snip> 
 
> I could not be happier that Snape running his mouth at Harry was
brought to bare minimum. YAYAY - poor Harry has enough on his plate,
nice to see that in the movie he does not have to deal with Snape 
that often.
> 
> Rickman did a good job, no question about it and even I laughed 
about his contempt to Umbridge, but I would be so happy if this  would
be the extent Snape appears in book 7. <snip>

Carol responds:

First, my apologies for responding to old posts but I only recently
saw the movie and am still catching up.

I had the opposite reaction (naturally). In the book, Snape made quite
clear exactly what Legilimency and Occlumency are and why Harry needed
to learn Occlumency (the scriptwriter made up some dramatic lines for
him but they have no bearing on either the film or the book), told
Harry to use any spell that occurred to him to defend himself and that
the best way to do it was with his mind, and got angriest when Harry's
memories related to Voldemort ("what are that man and that room doing
in your mind, Potter?") and especially the MoM vision, which Snape
himself breaks off. Also, Snape faintly praises Harry on one or two
occasions and hints that *he* can lie to the Dark Lord with detection,
a very important point that does not come through in the film.

Snape's opposition to Umbridge and his role in sending the Order to
the MoM are also underplayed and his skill in Legilimency is not even
hinted at. I would have loved to see the scene between the colly
snarky Snape ("Speaking of dogs, you were seen...") vs. defensive,
hot-headed, name-calling, defensive Black with his sneering (and
unmerited) "Snivellus." Instead, we see godfather Sirius presented as
a much more endearing figure than he is in the book and no clear
reason for the intensified animosity between Snape and Harry that
we'll need in HBP (and DH).

Like it or not, Snape is central to the HP story and his relationship
with Harry is also central. In fact, there would have been no Chosen
One if it weren't for Snape (and Wormtail). He's much more central
than, say McGonagall or even Sirius Black (who nevertheless played a
role in the creation of the Chosen One). I'd say more, but some
posters may not have read DH.

BTW, I don't recall clearly whether the film makes it clear that love
for his godfather saves Harry from LV's possession. I thought it was
more like love of his friends and family in general. Then, again, I've
only seen it once and that scene went by quickly.

BTW, I hope that if the movies are remade ten or twenty years from
now, the moviemakers will get more things right (and possibly the cast
can be digitally prevented from aging too rapidly, including the
adults). Much as I enjoy watching Rickman!Snape, who has the voice and
gestures and facial expressions down pat, he was always too old for
the part, as are Oldman and David Thewlis and whoever plays James as
an adult. And Robert Hardy is some thirty years too old to play Fudge,
IMO. He looks his age (eighty something?) in this film, as he didn't
so much in PoA.

Carol, futilely wishing that someone would invent a reverse-aging
process for ordinary Muggles, including but not restricted to actors





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 18:07:31 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:07:31 -0000
Subject: High-definition DVD question
Message-ID: <fa7ch3+4j4n@eGroups.com>

Does anyone know whether OoP will come out in standard DVD format
before it comes out as a high-definition DVD? Also, can you play a
high-definition DVD on a standard DVD player, or are the technocrats
forcing us to follow along with the new technology as they did by
replacing VHS tapes with DVDs?

Carol, who hates being forced to buy new equipment every time
technology is "improved"




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 18:25:23 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:25:23 -0000
Subject: Levicorpus
In-Reply-To: <f7b1li+pufh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa7dij+lnlu@eGroups.com>

Dondee wrote:
> 
> Levicorpus is a **non-verbal** spell that Harry learns in reading
the HBP's potions textbook. This was the spell that he first
accidentally used on Ron hoisting him out of bed by his ankle and then
later deliberately used on Ron when he was under the influence of
Ramilda's drugged chocolates. 
> 
> Harry realises later that this was the spell he saw his father use
on Snape in SWM (in OotP) and that it was the spell the DEs used on
the muggles at the QWC (in GoF).
> 
> None of the DA6 (in canon) know the spell when they face the DEs at
 the end of OotP. Hogwarts doesn't start teaching students nonverbals
 until sixth year. And remember Harry had a hard time, at first, 
learning nonverbals in Charms and Transfiguration.
> 
> In movie!OotP levicorpus is used as a verbal spell that floats
people on their tummys and doesn't hang them unsidedown by the ankle.
The movie people have just been taking liberties again with
time-specific canon information. What a surprise ;)

Carol responds:
I agree with your response in general, but don't think that the DEs in
general were using Levicorpus as the Muggles wern't suspended upside
down by their ankles. It was more like wingardium Leviosa, as
sustained hove charm. One of them spins a child around with an unknown
spell and another flips Mrs. Roberts upside down, exposing her drawers
(underwear, GoF Am. ed. 120). I think that's the only instance of
Levicorpus as used by the DEs. But the, JKR isn't always consistent in
her depiction of spells and she may have misremembered when she has
Hermione state in HBP that they saw the spell at the QWC.

I agree that the movie people took liberties that they shouldn't have
taken, both in using that spell prematurely and in their depiction of
it (making it like Wingardium Leviosa rather than suspending people by
the ankle), and I hope it doesn't cause consistency problems for the
HBP film. (It's clear that they read that book before writing the
screenplay for OoP, so you'd think they'd know to keep the HBP's secrets.)

Carol, hoping that having Steve Kloves back as screenwriter for HBP
will prevent continuity problems of that sort




From charober at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug 18 18:30:10 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:30:10 +0000
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
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>From: Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: You have to wonder
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:15:09 -0400
>
> > LOL :-)
>Dan's done Equus; he should have no problem 'getting his kit off' for
>HP, as well as in the 'Kings Cross' scene when he wakes up naked. Ha!
>I imagine they will 'CG' the 7 Harrys scene though. Look at all the
>amazing things they've done already!
>Valerie

Uh, *cough* don't have your heart set on ALL those scenes in the final movie 
Valerie!  LOL.  I hope my blush wasn't TOO obvious when I read that message!
Speaking of which, my mom indicated to me that she just read the "King's 
Cross" chapter (she may be further, who knows) and she didn't make any 
comments about the nude scene, lol!  I was surprised... maybe I should ask 
her when she's officially finished reading it!  I'm kinda longing for the 
silly grin she had when she told me she first read about Dan appearing in 
Equus!  LOL.
Charlotte





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 18:49:44 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:49:44 -0000
Subject: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <26310.21971.qm@web55404.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fa7f08+9flf@eGroups.com>

Jade B wrote:
<snip>
>   As for Neville's scene, I'm thinking it was a fix it. I never
understood what they were doing in the 4th film when Karkarov said
that Barty Crouch Jr. took part in the torture of the Longbottoms. I
thought it was just Bellatrix or was there more than just one?
Arrgghh
I'm rereading book 6 and I'm forgetting about book 5 already.
<snip>

Carol:
Barty Jr. *did* take part in the torture of the Longbottoms (though
the GoF film combined that scene with Karkaroff's snitching on his
fellow DEs and confused the picture somewhat). Barty's treatment of
Neville when he's posing as Mad-eye Moody, Crucioing the spider in
front of him and prolonging both the spider's agony and the boy's, is
just plain sick and sadistic, but it's explained by his having been
one of the torturers of Neville's parents thirteen or so years before. 

The then-nineteen-year-old Barty wasn't alone, of course, in this
cruel action. Bellatrix was the ringleader and her husband, Rololphus
and his brother Rabastan, also took part in the torture. You might
want to reread GoF as the GoF film condensed and simplified the Barty
Jr. backstory and his connection to the Longbottoms and left out the
Lestranges altogether. (They aren't named until OoP and it's never
clear which of the two men in the Pensieve scene is Rodolphus and
which is Rabastan since the focus is on young Barty and mad, arrogant
Bellatrix, Voldie's most loyal follower.)

Jade B:
>   I cannot stress how much I like Alan Rickman. I'm on pins and
needles with this next film when he has the guts to kill Dumbledore.
Gives me chills thinking about it. <snip>

Carol:
If only he were twenty years younger and not so saggy in the jowls!
But, yes, I can't wait for the Spinner's End segment (Narcissa
shedding tears on his chest, chains of fire binding his wand hand to
hers) and the overheard conversation with Draco and Sectumsempra and
snippets of the argument in the forest, but I'm terrified of the tower
scene. "The Flight of the Prince" ought to be excellent, though! With
luck, the Prince's book ought to feature more Snape than we've seen
since the first film. And, please, let's film Rickman's scenes before
he gets a day older. (Sorry, Alan. I'm getting older, too, but I'm not
out there playing a witch in her mid-to-late thirties.)

Please, Kloves and Yates, get it right!

Carol, trusting Rickman to leave the depiction of Snape deliciously
ambiguous, AK or no AK, but still, like you, on pins and needles




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 18:55:48 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:55:48 -0000
Subject: More OOTP comments
In-Reply-To: <f7cb6s+lsfj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa7fbk+on10@eGroups.com>

Julie wrote:
> I didn't get this though. Snape tells Umbridge he's out of 
Veritaserum because she used it all interrogating the students,
including Cho who ultimately "snitched." So if Umbridge was using
Veritaserum on *all* of them, how come only Cho gave up the DA? Are we
supposed to think she's particularly weak-willed and the other kids
somehow managed to fight the Veritaserum?
> Or are we to assume Umbridge didn't ask the right questions until
she got to Cho? And why didn't she just start with Harry, who she
assumed was the ring-leader, and Veritaserum the truth out of him?
> 
> Okay, I know I'm being waaay too logical ;-) I'm sure the point was
to show that Cho unwillingly betrayed the DA, though I agree that the
lack of follow up between her and Harry rather dampened the effect. 
> 
> Julie
>
Carol:
What bugs me is that in the film version, Snape evidently provides
Umbridge with real Veritaserum, not fake Veritaserum as he does in the
book. There goes his subtle undermining of Umbridge. It's like having
Neville steal the gillyweed in GoF, completely out of character, but
they're just simplifying the plot without thinking about the larger
implications.

Carol, who supposes that it's best not to worry about petty details
that the average movie-goer won't even grasp but can't help being
mildly annoyed, regardless




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sat Aug 18 21:22:44 2007
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:22:44 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
In-Reply-To: <fa368q+ej11@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa7nv4+1s5f@eGroups.com>

Carol: 
> Also, didn't having Cho confess to Umbridge mean that Umbridge used
> Veritaserum on her, which would mean that Snape must have supplied her
> with real rather than fake Veritaserum? If so, there goes his subtle
> undermining of Umbridge. And he didn't even get his Babbling Beverage
> line or his order to crabbe to release his chokehold on Neville. Sigh!


Potioncat:
I was so disappointd with that scene. At first I thought, oh, there's 
Snape letting them know that Cho couldn't help telling Umbridge. Then I 
realized it messed up the whole dynamics that was going on in canon. 
Also, Snape isn't dismissed, doesn't leave, just very suddenly isn't 
there.

Of course, in GoF, Snape pours a bottle of Veritaserum down Barty's 
throat. So much for the "...I told you that it only took 3 drops." line.




From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 18 23:39:05 2007
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:39:05 -0000
Subject: Aberforth Dumbledore???
In-Reply-To: <fa773r+5q2e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fa7vup+fq94@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
 
> Definitely Aberforth but not played by Michael Gambon. Must be Jim
> McManus, as the IMDb states. (Did anyone catch the credits? I didn't
> stay for them.)


It was McManus in the credits, or at least some very similar name. It 
was not Gambon for sure :-). I read on the list that the barman was 
played by Gambon, but when I finally went to see the movie, I thought 
that the actor didn't look like him at all, so I stayed for the credits 
to check :-).

zanooda




From artsylynda at aol.com  Sun Aug 19 13:54:42 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:54:42 EDT
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
Message-ID: <c51.18684dad.33f9a5a2@aol.com>

I was browsing in Borders the other day and saw a new SF magazine called  
"Death Ray" with Harry on the cover.  The article inside had some  new quotes and 
insights, so I bought it.  It's the August 2007 issue,  only the third issue 
of the magazine, and they have a very fun style of  writing (It's British, so 
they have that lovely cheeky attitude in the  writing style that I enjoy so 
much).
 
The reason I'm telling you about this is a quote from David Heyman I've  
never seen before.  When the article talks about JKR's input to the movies,  
Heyman tells the writer that they send every idea for a cut to JKR for her to  
approve or disapprove.  The one thing she told them they couldn't cut from  OOtP 
was - are you ready? - not Grawp, nor Kreacher (which is what I'd read  
before).  This is a quote from Heyman:  "It was a Snape thing."   Now what do you 
suppose that meant???  Hmmm.  
 
The floor is open for speculation!
 
 
Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now!" Mrs. Figg,  OotP

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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 19 17:57:27 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:57:27 -0000
Subject: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?
Message-ID: <faa0a7+n0dn@eGroups.com>

I don't know their names, but I do know their work very 
well. I think the ideal people to produce the final 
Harry Potter episode are the same people who wrote and
directed "Malcolm in the Middle'.

In every 22 minute episode of 'Malcolm' there are always
THREE subplots running in parallel, and each subplot
is full developed and fully realized. The writer are
able to full develop, expand, and conclude a subplot
that in reality last, on average, 7 minute 20 seconds.
I would say that is a pretty amazing feat. 

OK, maybe you personally find Malcolm himself to be
whiny jerk, and the house full of irresponsible parents
and monstrous kids. You don't have to like the show
to admire how amazingly they are able to pull off 
three comprehendable and comprehensive stories in
such an amazingly short time.

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn




From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 20 20:49:29 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0000
Subject: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?,
In-Reply-To: <faa0a7+n0dn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <facuop+hm68@eGroups.com>

Unfortunately the man who directed "Dirty Harry" is dead as is Stanley
Kubrick, so obviously the ideal man to direct movie 7 is Quinton
Tarentino.

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From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 20 21:30:31 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?,
In-Reply-To: <facuop+hm68@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <183697.90123.qm@web57314.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Oh no though I like some of Quinton's works he would ruin harry potter; the man for that job is Peter Jackson I think he should have directed all of the movies or have Chris Columbas come back the one who directed the first two hp movies.

Love,
Nitara

eggplant107 <eggplant107 at hotmail.com> wrote: Unfortunately the man who directed "Dirty Harry" is dead as is Stanley
Kubrick, so obviously the ideal man to direct movie 7 is Quinton
Tarentino.

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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Mon Aug 20 22:21:38 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:21:38 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?,
In-Reply-To: <facuop+hm68@eGroups.com>
References: <facuop+hm68@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <F3F83A4B-A236-4748-9510-410F2CDF5D4A@alltel.net>

Ack no!

On Aug 20, 2007, at 3:49 PM, eggplant107 wrote:

> Unfortunately the man who directed "Dirty Harry" is dead as is Stanley
> Kubrick, so obviously the ideal man to direct movie 7 is Quinton
> Tarentino.
>
> Eggplant Gellert Grindelwald
>
>
>
>
>
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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 01:31:52 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:31:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?,
In-Reply-To: <F3F83A4B-A236-4748-9510-410F2CDF5D4A@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <213772.26881.qm@web55409.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

If the company will allow a 3 + hour film....Peter Jackson.
   
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From nitarazendel at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 02:42:57 2007
From: nitarazendel at yahoo.com (Nitara Zendel, Jedi Master)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Who Should Direct and Write the Final Movie?,
In-Reply-To: <213772.26881.qm@web55409.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78811.38970.qm@web57305.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

With Perter he wouldn't leave all the main points in the book out and skip around and such... but thats just me cause I love Peter.

Love,
Nitara

Jade B <jade76_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote: If the company will allow a 3 + hour film....Peter Jackson.
   
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From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 03:25:07 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:25:07 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
In-Reply-To: <c51.18684dad.33f9a5a2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fadluj+lg19@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, artsylynda at ... wrote:
>
> I was browsing in Borders the other day and saw a new SF magazine 
called  
> "Death Ray" with Harry on the cover.  The article inside had some  
new quotes and 
> insights, so I bought it.  It's the August 2007 issue,  only the 
third issue 
> of the magazine, and they have a very fun style of  writing (It's 
British, so 
> they have that lovely cheeky attitude in the  writing style that I 
enjoy so 
> much).
>  
> The reason I'm telling you about this is a quote from David Heyman 
I've  
> never seen before.  When the article talks about JKR's input to the 
movies,  
> Heyman tells the writer that they send every idea for a cut to JKR 
for her to  
> approve or disapprove.  The one thing she told them they couldn't 
cut from  OOtP 
> was - are you ready? - not Grawp, nor Kreacher (which is what I'd 
read  
> before).  This is a quote from Heyman:  "It was a Snape thing."   
Now what do you 
> suppose that meant???  Hmmm.  
>  
> The floor is open for speculation!
>  
>  
> Lynda
> 

Of course the obvious 'Snape thing' IMO is SWM, which *was* filmed 
but cut drastically.  Sev calling Lily 'mudblood' turned out to be 
very important to the entire HP story.

Lizzie




From marion11111 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 01:53:15 2007
From: marion11111 at yahoo.com (marion11111)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:53:15 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
In-Reply-To: <fadluj+lg19@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fag4ub+vp62@eGroups.com>


> >Lynda said:
> > The reason I'm telling you about this is a quote from David Heyman 
> I've  
> > never seen before.  When the article talks about JKR's input to the 
> movies,  
> > Heyman tells the writer that they send every idea for a cut to JKR 
> for her to  
> > approve or disapprove.  The one thing she told them they couldn't 
> cut from  OOtP 
> > was - are you ready? - not Grawp, nor Kreacher (which is what I'd 
> read  
> > before).  This is a quote from Heyman:  "It was a Snape thing."   
> Now what do you 
> > suppose that meant???  Hmmm.  
> >  

> Lizzie said:
> Of course the obvious 'Snape thing' IMO is SWM, which *was* filmed 
> but cut drastically.  Sev calling Lily 'mudblood' turned out to be 
> very important to the entire HP story.
> 

marion11111:
I think you're right since they did cut so much of this.  I was trying to think of any other 
"Snape things" that were in the movie that a director might have wanted to cut and I can't 
actually remember any other "Snape things!"  Were Occlumency and SWM his only scenes?

And how depressing for the actors cast in those scenes.  A big break! A part in a Harry 
Potter movie! And then it ends up as a DVD extra.




From turn2pg394 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 13:37:07 2007
From: turn2pg394 at yahoo.com (can can)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:37:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
Message-ID: <91723.78542.qm@web57107.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

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  Ok, I don't know if this was covered yet, but I have to ask.  Is anyone else eitehr going to be (even as Adults) slightly giddy at the potential scene in the DH movie of Harry and Hermione kissing in front of Ron?  Either I'm going to be nauseau(sp?) or I'm going to bust up in nervous laughter, or just because it was funny (although it wasn't funny in book because I thought Ron would snap and stab the real Harry).  Anyhow, I think Emma, Rupert, and Dan are going to have several words for that kissing scene because they all have to be there for it, or the final Hermione/Ron kissing scene because they all have to be there for that!  Emma and Rupert were nervous about the possiblity of kissing each in the final film, imagine her having to kiss both her costars?  I may fall out on the movie theatre floor!LOL


peace...real love...

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From marion11111 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 16:33:15 2007
From: marion11111 at yahoo.com (marion11111)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:33:15 -0000
Subject: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
In-Reply-To: <91723.78542.qm@web57107.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fahogb+flt2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, can can <turn2pg394 at ...> wrote:
>
> `
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>   Ok, I don't know if this was covered yet, but I have to ask.  Is anyone else eitehr going 
to be (even as Adults) slightly giddy at the potential scene in the DH movie of Harry and 
Hermione kissing in front of Ron?  Either I'm going to be nauseau(sp?) or I'm going to bust 
up in nervous laughter, or just because it was funny (although it wasn't funny in book 
because I thought Ron would snap and stab the real Harry).  Anyhow, I think Emma, 
Rupert, and Dan are going to have several words for that kissing scene because they all 
have to be there for it, or the final Hermione/Ron kissing scene because they all have to be 
there for that!  Emma and Rupert were nervous about the possiblity of kissing each in the 
final film, imagine her having to kiss both her costars?  I may fall out on the movie theatre 
floor!LOL
> 
> 
> peace...real love...
> 
> Candace
> 

Judy:
Those poor kids. I always wonder about this when actors who are good friends in real life 
end up in romantic movies together.  I can't even imagine having to kiss or look 
romantically at any of my male friends - especially if they're married and I'm also friends 
with their wife!  I guess that's why they're actors and I'm not.

But, this is another storyline that I think might be dropped.  The whole "Ron's jealousy - 
love triangle thing."  They've downplayed most of the romance so far and I can see a 
director saying it isn't necessary to the main story.

Has anyone else noticed that the movies - this last one in particular - have tended to 
make many of the characters less complicated?  I suppose they have to since not everyone 
in the theater has read the books and they need to remove anything that might be 
confusing.  I'm thinking of Sirius, Snape, and Ginny

Examples:  

Sirius: I can't stand Sirius (sorry, sorry, sorry) mostly because of how immature and nasty 
he was in OotP shaming Hary for not being his father.  Well, in the movie, I just loved 
Sirius - what a great supportive and loving guy!  They didn't have time to delve into his 
complex emotional state and all his motivations since he's not the main character so they 
gave us a Sirius that supports the ending of the movie and the series.

Snape: Snape is a horrible jerk in the books.  He's still a jerk in the movies, yet kind of a 
lovable jerk.  Except for Neville, the students don't seem all that disturbed by his smacking 
people in the head and making sarcastic remarks.  It's kind of like "Yeah, he's a jerk, but 
he's *our* jerk."  This, I suppose, will play into his being DDM, although I don't know how 
the filmmakers could know that.

Ginny:  Where is "popular love'em and leave'em" Ginny?  We got "Strong-willed, yet still 
mooning over Harry" Ginny.  Again, I suppose her being kind of a Runaround Sue doesn't 
advance the main story.  This will make it simpler when they end up together in the next 
movie. I'll be disappointed though if they don't show her dating ANYONE before Harry.  I 
thought that was the whole point - she got over her celebrity-crush on Harry and that put 
them on equal footing in the relationship.

I'm curious to see what they do with Lupin in the last film since that one even threw off the 
avid series readers.   Actually, I think that whole thing will be written out also - just a brief 
mention - Hey, we got married.  Hey, we're preganat.  Hey, here's a picture of the baby.

I would have a terrible time adapting a book to the screen - I'd be worse than Peter 
Jackson.  All my movies would be seven hours long!






From tmarends at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 18:48:05 2007
From: tmarends at yahoo.com (Tim)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:48:05 -0000
Subject: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
In-Reply-To: <fahogb+flt2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fai0d5+51rd@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "marion11111" <marion11111 at ...> 
wrote:
>
>> 
> Ginny:  Where is "popular love'em and leave'em" Ginny?  We 
got "Strong-willed, yet still 
> mooning over Harry" Ginny.  Again, I suppose her being kind of a 
Runaround Sue doesn't 
> advance the main story.  This will make it simpler when they end 
up together in the next 
> movie. I'll be disappointed though if they don't show her dating 
ANYONE before Harry.  I 
> thought that was the whole point - she got over her celebrity-
crush on Harry and that put 
> them on equal footing in the relationship.
> 
>

I noticed, several times, Ginny had a look at Harry that was, I 
don't know... there's something still there.  Especially right 
before he kissed Cho.  It was a "I know what you're about to do, and 
I don't really want you to do it, but I'm not going to say anything" 
look.

Tim




From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Aug 23 02:23:27 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:23:27 EDT
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
Message-ID: <c68.1b0fbbb1.33fe499f@aol.com>

marion11111:
And how depressing for the actors cast in those scenes. A  big break! A part 
in a Harry 
Potter movie! And then it ends up as a DVD  extra.
 
Mary:
What about Boromir in the Lord of the Rings movies? There were several  
wonderful scenes for Sean Bean that were in the extras. Well worth the extra  money 
and the wait for the extended version DVDs.

---Mary
"The truth of the matter is that you always know the  right thing to do. The 
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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Aug 23 03:26:05 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:26:05 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
In-Reply-To: <fahogb+flt2@eGroups.com>
References: <fahogb+flt2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <7a7f4d2f2ad4a85c46cfac5a9fbc133d@verizon.net>

>  But, this is another storyline that I think might be dropped. The 
> whole "Ron's jealousy -
>  love triangle thing." They've downplayed most of the romance so far 
> and I can see a
>  director saying it isn't necessary to the main story.

Valerie: That was a weird scene in the book, wasn't it? Poor Ron, 
tortured with jealousy, being sucked into Voldemort's sick mental 
games. And poor Harry, who I think truly never had anything other than 
sisterly feelings for Hermione.
Though I wonder if they will show that 'slight grazing of her fingers 
through his hair' when they are camping. I was really wondering where 
JKR was going with that!
>
>  Has anyone else noticed that the movies - this last one in particular 
> - have tended to
>  make many of the characters less complicated? I suppose they have to 
> since not everyone
>  in the theater has read the books and they need to remove anything 
> that might be
>  confusing. I'm thinking of Sirius, Snape, and Ginny
>
>  Examples:
>
>  Sirius: I can't stand Sirius (sorry, sorry, sorry) mostly because of 
> how immature and nasty
>  he was in OotP shaming Hary for not being his father. Well, in the 
> movie, I just loved
>  Sirius - what a great supportive and loving guy! They didn't have 
> time to delve into his
>  complex emotional state and all his motivations since he's not the 
> main character so they
>  gave us a Sirius that supports the ending of the movie and the series.

Valerie: Ack! You hate my Sirius!?! He's my fav after Harry! What 
intrigues me is the complexity of his 'book' character. He's one of 
those twisted tortured souls that wants to be close to people, yet 
doesn't know how because he's internalized his feelings for so long. I 
was just telling a friend today that if HP were the real world (ha! you 
mean it isn't?!) then I 'should' fall for dear sweet Lupin, but in 
actuality would probably fall for the dark, moody, complicated Sirius!
I am ever so bummed that they whittled his whole persona down to a 
'kindly godfather'. I know why, but I still feel that as one of the 
more developed characters in JKR's books, his movie character really 
got cheated.

>  Snape: Snape is a horrible jerk in the books. He's still a jerk in 
> the movies, yet kind of a
>  lovable jerk. Except for Neville, the students don't seem all that 
> disturbed by his smacking
>  people in the head and making sarcastic remarks. It's kind of like 
> "Yeah, he's a jerk, but
>  he's *our* jerk." This, I suppose, will play into his being DDM, 
> although I don't know how
>  the filmmakers could know that.

Valerie: Movie Snape has many female fans! Again another dark, 
internal, tortured soul. I don't see many redeeming qualities to him in 
the book though. 'Course now when I read the books I envision Alan 
Rickman anyway!
>
>  Ginny: Where is "popular love'em and leave'em" Ginny? We got 
> "Strong-willed, yet still
>  mooning over Harry" Ginny. Again, I suppose her being kind of a 
> Runaround Sue doesn't
>  advance the main story. This will make it simpler when they end up 
> together in the next
>  movie. I'll be disappointed though if they don't show her dating 
> ANYONE before Harry. I
>  thought that was the whole point - she got over her celebrity-crush 
> on Harry and that put
>  them on equal footing in the relationship.

Valerie: Yeah, I wonder if they will have her snogging Dean behind the 
tapestry and Harry seething with jealousy? I think it is a pretty big 
deal that Harry falls in love with his best friend's sister. And they 
had better put Quidditch back in movie 6, so at least we can have the 
big kiss after the Quidditch win! Though they will probably completely 
change that. :-(




From mugg1eb0rn at aol.com  Thu Aug 23 07:15:43 2007
From: mugg1eb0rn at aol.com (mugg1eb0rn at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:15:43 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
Message-ID: <cd7.184f7583.33fe8e1f@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 8/22/2007 11:30:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes:

<<Valerie: Yeah, I wonder if they will have her snogging Dean  behind the 
tapestry and Harry seething with jealousy? I think it is a  pretty big 
deal that Harry falls in love with his best friend's sister.  And they 
had better put Quidditch back in movie 6, so at least we can have  the 
big kiss after the Quidditch win! Though they will probably completely  
change that. :-(
>>





It's already been announced that Quidditch is back in Movie 6. I think I  saw 
something about it in an Entertainment Weekly article. Don't know about  the 
kiss, of course.
 
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From geebsy at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 23 16:59:40 2007
From: geebsy at yahoo.com (geebsy)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:59:40 -0000
Subject: The only wizard he feared
Message-ID: <fakeds+ntip@eGroups.com>

I read with interest the immense dislike so many posters have with 
Gambon's portrayal of DD.   I just watched the 4 movies over  the past 
2 weeks & when I finally got to see OoTP, (only just this Tuesday) I 
found I really prefered Gambon over Harris.  Not to disparage Harris. 
His DD was just what was needed as we are introduced to the movie WW; a 
gentle, whimzical, absent minded portrayal that never had me believing 
that this man was anything other than a slightly excentric old wizard. 
With GoF, Gambon injected a real fire into DD who  seemed to have a bit 
more backbone. Posters object to the shaking he gives Harry after the 
Goblet spits out Harry's name, yet those of us who have dealth with 
people we love endangering their lives with foolishness know that is 
just what we may do when over-come with fear and concern.  We would 
immediately hug them of course, but DD cannot let anyone know the real 
feelings he has for Harry.
In OoTP, in the battle at the MoM, you can see the the mental and 
physical strengh needed as he and LV do battle. It is there that Gambon 
shines with his steely gaze and ferocious fighting stlye. The only 
problem I have with his portrayal is that the reveal scene is too 
short.  It feels all wrong, but that is the script writer/director who 
did not want Harry to get into a rage (wrong decision), and therefore, 
DD words do not carry the weight they do in the book. 




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 24 00:44:11 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:44:11 -0000
Subject: HBP "Funny"?????
In-Reply-To: <001501c7c879$6d8e7880$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <fal9kr+misf@eGroups.com>

Karen wrote:
>
> Well, I would not call it funny. I do hope they include the
Christmas party as that is maybe one of the funniest things I've ever
read, but that is about it. HBP is, I was just thinking as I reread it
this a.m. maybe going to be more of a challenge to turn in to a movie
than OotP, despite the latter's length. HBP is VERY episodic and that
just rarely well translated to film. <snip>
> 
> I must say, I really do hope they keep that party scene, but
unfortunately, I'm not sure how it fits in to the main story enough.
<snip>

Carol responds:
Granted, Luna's remark about the Rotfang Conspiracy may not be central
to the plot (though I hope they keep it in as it's hilarious), but
they *have* to have the party scene, not only because it shows Snape's
suspicions about Harry, the supposed Potions genius (whom Snape surely
suspects is using his book), it also contains the whole Snape/Draco
dynamic and leads into the scene in which Harry eavesdrops on Snape
and Draco, with the partial reference to the UV, snape's suspicion (or
certainty) that Draco is behind the cursed necklace, and all that.
It's central to the HBP subplot and the Draco/Snape main plot.

I just hope that the filmmakers realize that HBP is really "Harry
Potter and Severus Snape" on two levels.

I do hope, though, that the makeup people do something to make Rickman
look younger because if they do it right, he should have more
on-screen time than he's had in previous films. I hope they don't cut
*any* of his scenes. (I recall dark humor in some of *his* lines, but
I don't remember Harry being funny at all, just obsessed with Draco.)

Carol, especially looking forward to "Spinner's End" and "Sectumsempra"




From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 24 18:47:15 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
In-Reply-To: <7a7f4d2f2ad4a85c46cfac5a9fbc133d@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <73807.61230.qm@web55415.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Valerie: Yeah, I wonder if they will have her snogging Dean behind the 
tapestry and Harry seething with jealousy? I think it is a pretty big 
deal that Harry falls in love with his best friend's sister. And they 
had better put Quidditch back in movie 6, so at least we can have the 
big kiss after the Quidditch win! Though they will probably completely 
change that. :-(

   
   
   
  I agree. Since hearing of the funny scenes that are supposed to reflect in movie 6, I remember a good amount coming from Quidditch or surrounding it. I think it's appropriate to have it back in considering you won't see it in movie 7. Oh well we'll see how it goes.
   
  Jade
   
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From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 24 18:58:10 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] The only wizard he feared
In-Reply-To: <fakeds+ntip@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <704370.97376.qm@web55402.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I totally agree! I'm probably one of the few who like Gambon. Past Goblet of Fire, it definitely shows Dumbledore's emotional stability and calm waiver here and there. I loved Harris and always will but I also rather much like Gambon's portrayal of emotional Dumbledore. I was disappointed with the no Harry rage in office scene. I still liked the movie though.
   
  Time will tell...
   
   
  Jade
   
  

geebsy <geebsy at yahoo.com> wrote:
  I read with interest the immense dislike so many posters have with 
Gambon's portrayal of DD. I just watched the 4 movies over the past 
2 weeks & when I finally got to see OoTP, (only just this Tuesday) I 
found I really prefered Gambon over Harris. Not to disparage Harris. 
His DD was just what was needed as we are introduced to the movie WW; a 
gentle, whimzical, absent minded portrayal that never had me believing 
that this man was anything other than a slightly excentric old wizard. 
With GoF, Gambon injected a real fire into DD who seemed to have a bit 
more backbone. Posters object to the shaking he gives Harry after the 
Goblet spits out Harry's name, yet those of us who have dealth with 
people we love endangering their lives with foolishness know that is 
just what we may do when over-come with fear and concern. We would 
immediately hug them of course, but DD cannot let anyone know the real 
feelings he has for Harry.
In OoTP, in the battle at the MoM, you can see the the mental and 
physical strengh needed as he and LV do battle. It is there that Gambon 
shines with his steely gaze and ferocious fighting stlye. The only 
problem I have with his portrayal is that the reveal scene is too 
short. It feels all wrong, but that is the script writer/director who 
did not want Harry to get into a rage (wrong decision), and therefore, 
DD words do not carry the weight they do in the book. 




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From turn2pg394 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 24 19:40:58 2007
From: turn2pg394 at yahoo.com (can can)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DH spoiler so don't read!LOL
Message-ID: <11741.10984.qm@web57105.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

>Valerie: That was a weird scene in the book, wasn't it? Poor Ron, 
tortured with jealousy, being sucked into Voldemort's sick mental 
games. And poor Harry, who I think truly never had anything other than 
sisterly feelings for Hermione.
Though I wonder if they will show that 'slight grazing of her fingers 
through his hair' when they are camping. I was really wondering where 
>JKR was going with that!
   
  Candace:  May I just comment on that?LOL  Now I know some of you may think i'm way off, on point, or out my mind (eithers good!LOL) but I think that little scene and the kiss COULD have been a nod to all the shippers out there.  She was well aware of the shippers out there (well I think the basic ships) so that could have been her little one for the Harry/Hermione people.  I have to say though that wasn't the only one, there were many nods, I think....then again I could be way off...but she gave a nod (knowingly or unknowingly) to the Harry/Cho (my personal fav), although my girl Cho got her face cracked but its good to know that she was still pining for Harry.  Even a bit slashy, Harry/Draco, the riding on the broomstick scene out of the RoR, granted Draco turned out to be very punk-ish and therefore he would cling to anyone to save his life, but I thought that was a nod.  Then, and this one is really pushing it, but Harry/Ron.  There was a hug, I can't remember where in
 DH, but I know I stopped and reread the line because I don't remember them EVER doing that in any of the books.  I mean they have saved each other, or maybe(?) hugged after a quidditch match, but never in that context.  Granted there was the big discussion about what it means to be affectionate with a friend concerning Cedric (btw, he wasn't lying on that guys lap, I went through this argument with my boyfriend ages ago because I thought he was too).  But anyway I've only read the books twice (except for DH), so maybe I missed it about Harry/Ron.  I'm sure there was a Harry/Luna, but I really can't think of it.  And there's no point in mentioning Ginny, because Ginny was all though it, and the victor.  
  Oh well, it's out there I know, but I thought I'd mention it. I wonder if many Harry/Hermione people were on the edge of their seats after Ron left.LOL
   
  >Ginny: Where is "popular love'em and leave'em" Ginny? We got "Strong-willed, yet still 
mooning over Harry" Ginny. Again, I suppose her being kind of a Runaround Sue doesn't 
advance the main story. This will make it simpler when they end up together in the next 
movie. I'll be disappointed though if they don't show her dating ANYONE before Harry. I 
thought that was the whole point - she got over her celebrity-crush on Harry and that put 
>them on equal footing in the relationship.
   
  Candace now:  I was SO hoping they would let Ginny step up her character in Order, and date other people.  OR at least let her and Harry have a conversation together (Like I don't know, how does it feel to be possess by Voldemort perhaps? Something crucial.) UGH!  Irritates me that they didn't let them interact outside of her gawking stares at Harry, hateful stares at Cho and pushing her with her shoulder, and Harry's moment to smile at her Bat-Bogey-turn-Reducto-hex...which of course that's what Slughorn will praise her on in HBP.  I was going to have a hard time liking her with Harry unless I could see her get over the "celebrity crush" as Judy said.  Anyhow, I hope they let her at least have a boyfriend in the next one.  Got a feeling it will be Seamus as oppose to Dean, maybe it's because they had her and Seamus walking kind close and talking at the end of Order when Harry had to say that corny line (sorry, very rare do the movies end right or not corny at least in my
 opinion.)




peace...real love...

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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 25 02:52:20 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (Carol)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:52:20 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <f8rl5e+pri1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fao5h4+vegt@eGroups.com>

Eggplant wrote:
> >
> > In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the
part of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time,
can he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older
actor? I think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very
conservative slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him
a little padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the
middle, and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this
off he will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other
actor has portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37
year old man?  I can't think of one.

Carol responds:

How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old Snape? I'm afraid
they'll have to use Alec Baldwin for that one.

BTW, regarding Harry's suit: Do you think it should be old-fashioned
because the film WW is about fifty years behind the times in terms of
Muggle dress (and technology)? (Gramophones and nonelectric toy trains
in PoA, as well? I'll bet Slughorn's gramophone in HBP is a reference
to Movie!Lupin's gramophone in PoA and the Victrola with the out-sized
speaker horn or whatever the thing is called.)

Carol, wishing they could even get Rickman to look 37 or 38




From jeanico2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 25 03:10:37 2007
From: jeanico2000 at yahoo.com (jeanico2000)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:10:37 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fao5h4+vegt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fao6jd+8ir0@eGroups.com>

You know, they really don't need to film the epilogue part of the 
book and I strongly doubt that they will. There's too much other 
stuff to squeeze into movie 7!
Best,
Nicole  


--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Eggplant wrote:
> > >
> > > In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play 
the
> part of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the 
time,
> can he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older
> actor? I think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very
> conservative slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give 
him
> a little padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around 
the
> middle, and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull 
this
> off he will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other
> actor has portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 
37
> year old man?  I can't think of one.
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old Snape? I'm afraid
> they'll have to use Alec Baldwin for that one.
> 
> BTW, regarding Harry's suit: Do you think it should be old-
fashioned
> because the film WW is about fifty years behind the times in terms 
of
> Muggle dress (and technology)? (Gramophones and nonelectric toy 
trains
> in PoA, as well? I'll bet Slughorn's gramophone in HBP is a 
reference
> to Movie!Lupin's gramophone in PoA and the Victrola with the out-
sized
> speaker horn or whatever the thing is called.)
> 
> Carol, wishing they could even get Rickman to look 37 or 38
>





From mike4521daron at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 25 03:16:20 2007
From: mike4521daron at yahoo.com (Mike Daron)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:16:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fao5h4+vegt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <328314.25332.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

no they will used heavy make-up, to make him look older than he is.
   It's a mazing how make-up can make you old,and make you as young.
  I know this as a stage-hand you pick up on things,about the theater,back-stage.
                           mike .

Carol <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
          Eggplant wrote:
> >
> > In the last part of the last movie somebody will need to play the
part of a 37 year old Harry Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time,
can he convincingly do it or will they need to hire another older
actor? I think Dan can do it provided they dress him in a very
conservative slightly old fashioned three piece suite, maybe give him
a little padding so it looks like he's gained a few pounds around the
middle, and get some world class makeup artists. If Dan can pull this
off he will have done something unprecedented in cinema; what other
actor has portrayed the same character as a 10 year old boy and a 37
year old man? I can't think of one.

Carol responds:

How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old Snape? I'm afraid
they'll have to use Alec Baldwin for that one.

BTW, regarding Harry's suit: Do you think it should be old-fashioned
because the film WW is about fifty years behind the times in terms of
Muggle dress (and technology)? (Gramophones and nonelectric toy trains
in PoA, as well? I'll bet Slughorn's gramophone in HBP is a reference
to Movie!Lupin's gramophone in PoA and the Victrola with the out-sized
speaker horn or whatever the thing is called.)

Carol, wishing they could even get Rickman to look 37 or 38



                         

       
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 25 17:59:09 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:59:09 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <328314.25332.qm@web52905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <fapqld+vphp@eGroups.com>

> >> Eggplant wrote:
> >>
> >> In the last part of the last movie somebody will
> >> need to play the part of a 37 year old Harry 
> >> Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, can he 
> >> convincingly do it ...
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old 
> Snape? I'm afraid they'll have to use Alec Baldwin 
> for that one.
> 
> 
---  Mike Daron <mike4521daron at ...> wrote:
>
> no they will used heavy make-up, to make him look 
> older than he is. It's a mazing how make-up can make
> you old,and make you as young. I know this as a 
> stage-hand you pick up on things,about the theater,
> back-stage.
> 
> mike .
> 

bboyminn:

Well, first of all, Dan will have to play 37 NOT 97.

It's not that hard to make a young person in their 20's
look old. You simply give them shadows under their
eyes, highlight the creases alongside their mouth,
and highlight the wrinkles on their forehead and 
alongside their eyes. Add a touch of gray hair and
you are done.

A 37 year old is still a moderately young person.

Now, making an older person look young is more
difficult but it too can be done. One technique,
in addition to heavy make-up, is to use Tape to
pull back the skin on their face, similar to a 
face lift, then cover the tape with a wig. 

I don't see a problem with Dan playing age 37,
but Alan Rickman playing age 20 is going to be
very difficult. Though another technique is to
shoot through gauze, that is frequently used for
glamor shots to soften wrinkles. Keep in mind
the scene of Rickman/Snape at age 20 are in 
memories and they can dream-like and can easily 
be shot as softly lite, gauze filtered scenes.

My problem isn't /can/ they do this, but /will/
they do it? 

Steve/bboyminn 




From geebsy at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 02:34:30 2007
From: geebsy at yahoo.com (geebsy)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:34:30 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fapqld+vphp@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <faqorm+2rb9@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't see a problem with Dan playing age 37,
> but Alan Rickman playing age 20 is going to be
> very difficult. Though another technique is to
> shoot through gauze, that is frequently used for
> glamor shots to soften wrinkles. Keep in mind
> the scene of Rickman/Snape at age 20 are in 
> memories and they can dream-like and can easily 
> be shot as softly lite, gauze filtered scenes.
> 
> My problem isn't /can/ they do this, but /will/
> they do it? 
> 
>With the kind of scene Jo has invisioned with steam coming from the 
engine and a sort of 1930's noir feeling about it, any actor could be 
picked to play the characters....however it will depend on wether the 
screen-writer/director want to have that sort of wrap-up to the movie 
series.  Jo thought that people wanted this happily ever after, but 
by the posts over at HPFGU, not many of those readers did.
What makes a better movie ending...Harry victorious, captured forever 
with a triumphant face, as the wizarding world yells and screams 
their collective relief, a fierce hug from Hermione and Ron, then the 
ever so important hero's reward from his true love.  
Gosh aint it just like a movie.

or cut to

a slightly portly dark-haired man and a harried red-haired woman make 
their way to an over-crowded, smokey, noisey station loaded with 
screaming kids, pets, and carts.  A few hi-yas,,,nudge, nudge, look 
whose here and get a load of the kid's name...

Fade out...

Geebsy





From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 03:10:04 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:10:04 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fao5h4+vegt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <faqquc+kh4n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
> 
> How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old Snape? I'm afraid
> they'll have to use Alec Baldwin for that one.
> <snip>
> Carol, wishing they could even get Rickman to look 37 or 38
>

Ah, Alec Baldwin?  I assume you meant Alec Hopkins?  LOL

Lizzie Mae





From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 26 18:18:32 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fao6jd+8ir0@eGroups.com>
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My goodness I hope they do! Rowlings left open a completely new series at the end. I would hope that WB would be smart enough to bank on that.
   
   
  Jade
   
  Gryffindor House
  

jeanico2000 <jeanico2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  You know, they really don't need to film the epilogue part of the 
book and I strongly doubt that they will. There's too much other 
stuff to squeeze into movie 7!
Best,
Nicole 


       
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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sun Aug 26 23:06:12 2007
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:06:12 EDT
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH
Message-ID: <c30.1a695b38.34036164@aol.com>

Nicole: You know, they really don't need to film the epilogue part of the  
book and I strongly doubt that they will. There's too much other stuff to  
squeeze into movie 7!

~~~
Mary: The last scene would be an interesting thing to run under the end  
credits, even without dialogue. They could do just enough of it to show "happily  
ever after" and hid a lot of the details under the smoke and steam from the  
train engine.  
 
Picture this: 
After the excitement of the battles and congratulations, a cloudy, steaming  
background with the words "Nineteen years later..." 
Still with clouds, pan down a bit to a clear sign that says "Platform 9  3/4"
Pan down a bit further to see quick clear glimpse of Harry, Ginny, and the  
kids. 
Perhaps some child voices saying lines from the epilogue. More steam,  people 
moving but no clear views, end music starting and credits begin to roll  as 
people move about, greeting each other. 
No discernable voices as music and credits continue.
After the final credit, a clear view of Harry looking at his watch, rubbing  
his forehead and smiling, and then putting his arm around Ginny, walking  off 
screen. 

---Mary
"The truth of the matter is that you always know  the right thing to do. The 
hard part is doing it." 
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From geebsy at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 03:48:28 2007
From: geebsy at yahoo.com (geebsy)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:48:28 -0000
Subject: HD-DVD and HP
Message-ID: <fathic+4f2p@eGroups.com>

I think it was this site that someone had mentioned that the HP DVD's 
were only going to be available as long as current stock was in stores, 
then those movies and the other 3 would be in Blueray or HD-DVD.  I do 
own a HD-Tv, but not a HD DVD player.  But....I watched PoA on CBC 
(Canada's national netework) tonight IN High Definition and "bleedin' 
hell" ' it was Great! With so many outside shots it almost turned into 
a 3-D affair.  Those of you who do have HD-TV's know that 'true" HD 
shows are spectacular, and sometimes those that are rendered? 
transposed? into HD do not always succeed. I watched PoA only a few 
weeks ago on my DVD and so the change up was noticable.  I hope that it 
is decided soon if the world is going HD or Blueray.  I don't want to 
choose wrong and end up with a Betamax instead of VHS.

Roxane




From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 27 15:08:25 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:08:25 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <fao5h4+vegt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <faupd9+a0ch@eGroups.com>

"Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> regarding Harry's suit: Do you think
> it should be old-fashioned because the
> film WW is about fifty years behind 
> the times in terms of Muggle dress
> (and technology)? 

Harry is not as bad at dressing like a Muggle as most Wizards but by
the time of the Epilogue Harry will have been out of the Muggle world
for 20 years and he is just not up to date on modern Muggle fashions,
so his cloths are well made but very conservative; with his glasses he
looks like a successful accountant, but that is after all not a bad
disguise.

 Eggplant Gellert Grindelwald       






From jade76_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 15:59:58 2007
From: jade76_2000 at yahoo.com (Jade B)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:59:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HD-DVD and HP
In-Reply-To: <fathic+4f2p@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <804535.79614.qm@web55415.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



geebsy <geebsy at yahoo.com> wrote:    I think it was this site that someone had mentioned that the HP DVD's 
were only going to be available as long as current stock was in stores, 
then those movies and the other 3 would be in Blueray or HD-DVD. I do 
own a HD-Tv, but not a HD DVD player. But....I watched PoA on CBC 
(Canada's national netework) tonight IN High Definition and "bleedin' 
hell" ' it was Great! With so many outside shots it almost turned into 
a 3-D affair. Those of you who do have HD-TV's know that 'true" HD 
shows are spectacular, and sometimes those that are rendered? 
transposed? into HD do not always succeed. I watched PoA only a few 
weeks ago on my DVD and so the change up was noticable. I hope that it 
is decided soon if the world is going HD or Blueray. I don't want to 
choose wrong and end up with a Betamax instead of VHS.

Roxane



  I agree. I'm pretty sick of the DVD wars myself. I have an HD-TV but have not decided on a new player/recorder yet just for the simple reason of this war. My friend told me about a converter cable which I'll look into but I really don't want to pay for two players to watch one film on. I do love the Blue Ray though.
   
   


Jade
  Gryffindor House

       
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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 27 22:55:39 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:55:39 -0000
Subject: HD-DVD and HP
In-Reply-To: <804535.79614.qm@web55415.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <favkpb+c8q2@eGroups.com>

---  Jade B <jade76_2000 at ...> wrote:
> 
> geebsy <geebsy at ...> wrote:    
> I think it was this site that someone had mentioned
> that the HP DVD's were only going to be available as
> long as current stock was in stores, then those movies
> and the other 3 would be in Blueray or HD-DVD. ...
> I don't want to choose wrong and end up with a Betamax
> instead of VHS.
> 
> Roxane
> 
> 
> Jade:
>  I agree. I'm pretty sick of the DVD wars myself. 
> I have an HD-TV but have not decided on a new 
> player/recorder yet just for the simple reason of 
> this war. My friend told me about a converter cable
> which I'll look into 
> 
> 
> Jade
> Gryffindor House


bboyminnn:

Correct me if I am wrong, but won't the HD-DVD's 
still play on a normal DVD player? 

I heard that somewhere but don't know where and
don't know how reliable the source is. But
I was under the impression that the data density
on an HD-DVD was high enough that both the HD
version of the movie and the standard version
was on the disk.

Anybody know if this is right?

Steve/bboyminn




From geebsy at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 28 02:42:42 2007
From: geebsy at yahoo.com (geebsy)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:42:42 -0000
Subject: HD-DVD and HP
In-Reply-To: <favkpb+c8q2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <fb0232+6s48@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  Jade B <jade76_2000@> wrote:
> > 
> > geebsy <geebsy@> wrote:    
> > I think it was this site that someone had mentioned
> > that the HP DVD's were only going to be available as
> > long as current stock was in stores, then those movies
> > and the other 3 would be in Blueray or HD-DVD. ...
> > I don't want to choose wrong and end up with a Betamax
> > instead of VHS.
> > 
> > Roxane
> > 
> > 
> > Jade:
> >  I agree. I'm pretty sick of the DVD wars myself. 
> > I have an HD-TV but have not decided on a new 
> > player/recorder yet just for the simple reason of 
> > this war. My friend told me about a converter cable
> > which I'll look into 
> > 
> > 
> > Jade
> > Gryffindor House
> 
> 
> bboyminnn:
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong, but won't the HD-DVD's 
> still play on a normal DVD player? 
> 
> I heard that somewhere but don't know where and
> don't know how reliable the source is. But
> I was under the impression that the data density
> on an HD-DVD was high enough that both the HD
> version of the movie and the standard version
> was on the disk.
> 
> Anybody know if this is right?
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>

Geebsy writes;

Yes and no Steve  
There are a few different formats even in HD-DVD available. There 
are  
hybrids that offer regular DVD and HD on one dual sided disk, (HD on 
one side, Regular on the other) but nothing has been definately 
settled yet in regards to what format (Blue-ray or HD) wins the "WAR" 
and that leaves consumers like us up in the air.  Wikipedia offers 
more than enough info on the subject. 
I just wanted to say that I think that watching movies in High Def is 
great and movies like HP really benefit from this enhancement.  I did 
see GoF at the IMAX and couldn't believe the experience.  PoA in HD 
at home on the 50" TV with home theatre sound was an excellent 
experience in its own right.  When the time comes I will spring for a 
new format...but I wonder which one will win?

Roxane...wishing I could have seen OoTP at the IMAX




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed Aug 29 15:36:07 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:36:07 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you
 haven't read DH)
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References: <fapqld+vphp@eGroups.com>
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Yes, why in the world wouldn't they use 'young Snape' for the 20-yr. 
old Snape? I thought the casting for him was great, and only wish 
they'd fleshed that scene out to include all that was in the book.
Valerie

On Aug 25, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Steve wrote:

> > >> Eggplant wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >> In the last part of the last movie somebody will
>  > >> need to play the part of a 37 year old Harry
>  > >> Potter; Dan will be about 20 at the time, can he
>  > >> convincingly do it ...
>  >
>  > Carol responds:
>  >
>  > How about Alan Rickman playing a twenty-year-old
>  > Snape? I'm afraid they'll have to use Alec Baldwin
>  > for that one.
>
>  Steve/bboyminn :

>  I don't see a problem with Dan playing age 37,
>  but Alan Rickman playing age 20 is going to be
>  very difficult. Though another technique is to
>  shoot through gauze, that is frequently used for
>  glamor shots to soften wrinkles. Keep in mind
>  the scene of Rickman/Snape at age 20 are in
>  memories and they can dream-like and can easily
>  be shot as softly lite, gauze filtered scenes.




From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Wed Aug 29 15:42:33 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:42:33 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you
 haven't read DH)
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References: <546385.19678.qm@web55413.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <029f7d3ba34525b19c301cdcac735e1b@verizon.net>

I certainly hope they film the Epilogue too. I, for one, very much 
needed the 'happily ever after' ending after the final bloodbath at 
Hogwarts!
I even hope they extend it further than the book by putting in the 
'extra details' that JKR talked about in her post-DH interviews:
Harry and Ron as Aurors; Hermione as M.O.M. lawyer; Ginny as Quidditch 
sports editor; Luna as naturalist;
and I want to see Teddy with turquoise hair!
and humbled, yet still grouchy Draco with his l'il Draco!
Valerie

On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Jade B wrote:

> My goodness I hope they do! Rowlings left open a completely new series 
> at the end. I would hope that WB would be smart enough to bank on 
> that.
>
>
>  Jade
>
>  Gryffindor House
>
>
>  jeanico2000 <jeanico2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  You know, they really don't need to film the epilogue part of the
>  book and I strongly doubt that they will. There's too much other
>  stuff to squeeze into movie 7!
>  Best,
>  Nicole
>
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 22:38:04 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (Carol)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:38:04 -0000
Subject: You have to wonder
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Message-ID: <fba58c+lq24@eGroups.com>

Charlotte Roberts wrote:
 
> I kinda figured Dan would have to do a myriad of shots to play all
seven Polyjuice Harrys.  ;)  They can probably use the voices of the
different characters that are originally disguised as Harry, like in
COS where they let Dan and Rupert talk in their original voices
temporarily, unlike in the book where Crabbe and Goyle's voices come
out naturally when they're Polyjuiced.
> 
> Charlotte
>

Carol responds:

I don't think they can use the voices of the actors and actresses. The
moment Hermione!Harry or Fleur!Harry casts a defensive spell, the DEs
will know she's a fake Harry. All of them have to seem real. After
all, the filmmakers have GoF as a precedent for a character who speaks
in the voice of the polyjuiced person, Crouch!Moody in GoF, as well as
the way polyjuice potion is presented in the books themselves. I do
hope they get in some humor, in that scene--Fleur!Harry looking
soppily at Bill, Mundungus!'arry speaking with 'arry's voice but a
Cockney accent, Fred and George saying "We're identical!" one last
time. Sigh. That one will be bittersweet for those who know what's coming.

Carol, hoping that we don't need to use DH-spoiler space on this list
for those who haven't read the books!




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 23:06:44 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (Carol)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:06:44 -0000
Subject: A couple of OotP puzzles for me
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Message-ID: <fba6u4+g3u7@eGroups.com>

marion11111:
> I think you're right since they did cut so much of this.  I was
trying to think of any other "Snape things" that were in the movie
that a director might have wanted to cut and I can't actually remember
any other "Snape things!"  Were Occlumency and SWM his only scenes?
> 
> And how depressing for the actors cast in those scenes.  A big
break! A part in a Harry Potter movie! And then it ends up as a DVD extra.
>
Carol responds:
If the list of deleted scenes at Leaky is any indication, it's not
even that. However, we could see some archive footage in DG.

In the book, Snape also has some teaching scenes (Potions class),
notably his inspection by Umbridge (which is touched on in the film).
We see him Evanescoing some of Harry's unsatisfactory potions, for
example. And there was the confrontation with Sirius Black at 12 GP,
which was cut completely. The Occlumency scenes were much more
developed, including the three childhood memories that flash by when
Harry casts a Protego. We also see his reaction to Trelawney's screams
and to Draco's report that Montague is stuck in a toilet (which leads
me to wonder how they'll deal with the Vanishing Cabinets in the HBP
film). Snape has quite a few choice scenes in OoP, all of them either
condensed or cut altogether in the film.

Carol, who would have appreciated another ten minutes or so of
Rickman!Snape in the film as there was plenty of material to draw from




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 23:46:00 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (Carol)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:46:00 -0000
Subject: The last part of the last movie (spoilers if you haven't read DH)
In-Reply-To: <c30.1a695b38.34036164@aol.com>
Message-ID: <fba97o+midv@eGroups.com>

Mary wrote: 
> The last scene would be an interesting thing to run under the end 
credits, even without dialogue. They could do just enough of it to
show "happily ever after" and hid a lot of the details under the smoke
and steam from the train engine.  <snip>

Carol responds:

IMO, the whole point of the epilogue is summed up in the name of
Harry's second son, which a silent credits-backdrop epilogue could not
convey.

Carol, for whom the scene with Albus Severus said all there was to say
about forgiveness and heroism and Snape and Slytherin




From liviatasia at comcast.net  Fri Aug 31 23:50:08 2007
From: liviatasia at comcast.net (Rohirrim)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:50:08 -0700
Subject: Ginny and Lily's resemblance
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Does anyone think that Ginny is starting to resemble Lily somewhat? I was 
watching the Goblet of Fire today and when his parents showed up, I couldn't 
help but to think how much those two really look alike.

Tasia