From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Mar  1 05:22:16 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:22:16 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] It's good to be right!!!
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I am SO happy for Dan's successful official opening night of Equus! His 
performance appears to have been highly praised across the board. I 
think this experience is really going to improve his movie acting. I'll 
bet his performance in HBP will be stellar!
Valerie, who can't wait for 'It's-All-About-Harry-Potter July'!!

On Feb 28, 2007, at 10:58 AM, abraxan wrote:

> I've said for years now that Dan Radcliffe was a great actor, and the
>  reviews for Equus are certainly bearing that out. Kudos to Dan for
>  doing such good work and getting fabulous reviews! You can see the
>  whole list at http://www.danradcliffe.com, including some video
>  interviews with Dan and Richard Griffiths.


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Mar  1 07:05:12 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:05:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] filming of HBP and 'Jack'??
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In reading through the many, many Equus reviews (I never get tired of 
folks praising Dan & Richard Griffiths performances!), I'm curious 
about something. Equus runs through June 9th. Then one source stated 
that Dan is filming 'My Boy Jack' till September. Another source said 
he's starting to film HBP this summer. How can  he film 2 productions 
at once? And when does the poor boy get a vacation!?
Plus you know he'll be swamped with interviews in July when the final 
book and OotP comes out! Hope he doesn't burn himself out!
Anyone know for sure when HBP starts filming?
Valerie




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  1 22:34:24 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:34:24 -0000
Subject: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
In-Reply-To: <erfisc+s78q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <es7kdg+dnq5@eGroups.com>

---  "Fiona" <fionap19 at ...> wrote:
>
> > bboyminn:
> > 
> > A lot of people complain that Dan and the other actors
> > are a bit 'wooden' in the HP preformances. I am quick
> > to point out to them that the actors can never be
> > better than what they are given to work with. 

> Fiona Potter:
> 
> Steve:  I agree that this comment is made about Dan's
> portrayal of Harry all too often.  It's my opinion that
> Dan deliberately has chosen to make Harry a very 
> circumspect and closed-off individual.  ...

bboyminn:

Actually I agree with that evaluation completely. Harry
and Dan's portrayal are of a very circumspect closed-off
individual and rightly so, but I still blame the lack of
depth of any single character and of the movies as a 
whole on the director and the producer. 

For the audience to feel any emotion or sympathy for the
characters, the characters have to be deleloped, we have
to get to know them. To do that we have to spend time
with them, and in a movie, time is the enemy. As I said,
in nearly all the movies, the extra 15 minutes of scenes
that give the characters and stories depth, meaning, and
continuity are left out. 

Consequently, we simply have a movie that jumps from 
scene to sence from line to line with no continuity segue,
no character or plot development. These movies get by
because the story is so well known, but the movies 
themselves are very shallow, and that shallowness is
reflected in the actors. 

Yet, that superfical shallowness and wooden performance 
is not a true indicator of any individual actors talent.
Tom Felton must be a very talented actor to have had a 
major role in a big budget hollywood production of 'Anna
and the Kind/The King and I'. Last night I was watching 
YouTube clips of Dan as David Cooperfield, and he was 
actually quite good, especially for someone so very young.
He is most convincing in the scenes with his step-father.
The other actors who work with Rupert Grint say he is a
naturally gifted comedian with perfect timing, yet where
does that ever shine through in the movies? It is 
certainly there in the books, but not in the movies where
Ron's part has been gutted, his best lines either given
away or left out. The potential is there, without a doubt,
but the movie producers seem in too much of a hurry to 
allow that talent to shine.

Let me give you an example, I think this might be in
'Chamber of Secrets'. There is a scene near the middle 
of the movie where there is a sudden cut to horse drawn
slieghs riding across the lake while HP-Jingle Bells 
music plays in the background. It is a pretty scene
but seems to simply appear out of nowhere. It seems
to simply be a transition scene between two segements of
the story and nothing more. But if the deleted scenes
that should have occurred just before that were in the
movie, you would know that the horse drawn sleighs are
taking the students across the lake so they can catch
the train for Christmas Holiday break. Why keep the 
scene in if you are not going to set it up properly?

By failing to add depth and continuity to the movie, 
they have made the actors come off as lacking depth. 
Every actor including Dan has been underutilized 
because Warner is dead set on an absolute time deadline. 

Setting up a scene not only give a movie continuity, but
helps set the mood. Once the mood is set, both the actors
and the scene have far more emotional impact even if the
lines are exactly the same. If the continuity and the 
mood are not set, then the lines have no context and
therefore little or no emotional impact.

Again, a perfect example. In GoF, when Dan returns to
the Quidditch pitch with Cedric's body and is saying,
'He's back, He's back', in the context of what happened
I found that very emotionally moving. But when I saw 
the clip as a stand alone without the setup and context,
I found it not so believable. My point is the exact
same performance can have complete different emotional
impact depending on whether the context has been allowed
to develope. 

I'm some what worried about the next two movie because 
they are movie with definite emotional impact. If the
relationship between Sirius and Harry is not allowed
to develope, then why should I care about Sirius dying,
and more importantly, why should Harry care to the 
degree which the actor will likely be compelled to 
portray the scene back in Dumbledore's office. Without
the setup, there is no payoff, and the apparent blame
for that lack of emotions is going to fall on the
actor when in reality it should fall on the director 
and the producer. 

My central points is that Warner should get over it's
obssession with an absolute 2.5 hour time limit for
the movies. Let the movie take as long as it needs to 
get the job done properly. Better a long good movie
than a short mediocre one.

Pardon my rant.

Steve/bboyminn




From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Mar  2 16:16:24 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:16:24 EST
Subject: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
Message-ID: <c60.cdd9f2e.3319a7d8@aol.com>

Steve, you said a mouthful!  I hope WB will give the movies  more time, but I 
won't hold my breath.  
 
There's good news today for HP movie fans - Dan has signed to do  both of the 
last films!  It's official!  So YAAAY and congrats and  thanks to Dan!  
Rupert's always said he'd do all of the films, and Dan's  said he wanted to, but he 
was always smart enough to say it would depend on the  script.  But now, I 
suppose he feels he's done so many of them, he may as  well finish the series.  
It's a historic thing, the same actors playing the  same roles in seven major 
films, isn't it?  And his experience in "Equus"  can only make him a better 
actor.  Now if the screenwriter, director and  producer will just make USE of 
that experience and talent, there might be Oscars  in Harry's future, surely by 
the end of the series at least!!  We can only  hope. . .
 
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From charober at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar  2 22:40:50 2007
From: charober at sympatico.ca (Charlotte Roberts)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:40:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
References: <c60.cdd9f2e.3319a7d8@aol.com>
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Thank you for sharing that with me Linda!  :)  It absolutely made my day, finding out that Dan and Rupert are committed to the last two movies. I hope Emma Watson is too, and then I can say that I watched three of my favourite actors grow up in the HP movies, lol.  I never got to see Driving Lessons, and I truly hope I can see December Boys and Jack when they come out.  So far, no word as to whether Emma Watson is going to do any other works of media as an actress.  I would love to though.  I'm craving seeing their acting talents from different angles!

Charlotte

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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Tue Mar  6 07:58:56 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:58:56 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
Message-ID: <c69.d1ce4e0.331e7940@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/1/07 5:37:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
bboyminn at yahoo.com writes:


> Consequently, we simply have a movie that jumps from 
> scene to sence from line to line with no continuity segue,
> no character or plot development. 

Sandy responds:

This was never more true than with GOF. By the time the movie was released I 
had seen every clip that had been made available. I was totally shocked to 
find out that, in essence, I had already seen the entire movie, with the 
exception of the graveyard scenes. All of these scenes I had seen on the Internet had 
just been strung together to form the movie in it's entirety. Very 
disappointing. GOF is my least favorite. 

I have to say that SS and COS, to my way of thinking, are pretty true to the 
books, with minor exceptions. POA is where they really started changing 
things, yet it remains one of my favorites.

As to the acting: Sometimes I feel like I must be so much more simple-minded 
or easier to please than everyone else on the HP groups because I think Dan is 
a good actor in the movies, and I think Rupert has moments of brilliance too, 
although I feel his talent is much under used. I am not, however, impressed 
with Emma.

As to Warner needing to rethink their policy on the length of the movies, I 
couldn't agree more. I am really concerned about OOP. It was the longest book 
to date, yet they still insist upon maintaining the 2 1/2 hour movie length. 

I have the movie David Copperfield on DVD and I love the job young Daniel 
does in it. I think he is very good, and his talent shines through even at that 
young age. The only HP movie I see him as being somewhat wooden in is SS, which 
sticks pretty closely to the book. I chalk it off to his young age and the 
pressure of being Harry Potter. I have just liked him from the word get-go. 

Sandy 


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From Ronin_47 at comcast.net  Tue Mar  6 11:58:44 2007
From: Ronin_47 at comcast.net (Ronin_47)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 06:58:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
In-Reply-To: <c69.d1ce4e0.331e7940@aol.com>
References: <c69.d1ce4e0.331e7940@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c75fe6$cba95ee0$7bd02444@TheRonin>

--Sandy Wrote--
>>>This was never more true than with GOF. By the time the movie was
released I 
>had seen every clip that had been made available. I was totally shocked to 
>find out that, in essence, I had already seen the entire movie, with the 
>exception of the graveyard scenes. All of these scenes I had seen on the
Internet had 
>just been strung together to form the movie in it's entirety. Very 
>disappointing. GOF is my least favorite. 

>I have to say that SS and COS, to my way of thinking, are pretty true to
the 
>books, with minor exceptions. POA is where they really started changing 
>things, yet it remains one of my favorites.

>As to the acting: Sometimes I feel like I must be so much more
simple-minded 
>or easier to please than everyone else on the HP groups because I think Dan
is 
>a good actor in the movies, and I think Rupert has moments of brilliance
too, 
>although I feel his talent is much under used. I am not, however, impressed

>with Emma.

>As to Warner needing to rethink their policy on the length of the movies, I

>couldn't agree more. I am really concerned about OOP. It was the longest
book 
>to date, yet they still insist upon maintaining the 2 1/2 hour movie
length. 
<<<
 
 
 
--Ronin's Comments--
I have to agree with most of what you've said. Although to me, Michael
Gambon's Dumbledore is horrible. Nothing against him personally or as an
actor in general, but he is the furthest thing from the Dumbledore I see
when I'm reading the books, which is especially evident in GOF. I suppose it
was more the result of bad directing than anything, but I've never really
liked Gambon's portrayal of DD. There are so many other actors who could
play that part; Michael Caine, Peter O'Toole, Sean Connery, Ian McKellen,
Jeremy Irons, etc.
I also think Emma is not bad, but there are moments where I can see her
struggling with simple lines or expressions. In spite of this, I couldn't
see anyone else playing Hermione and it's so minor that I can shrug it off.
She's getting better.
But, I have no idea why the studios are such sticklers to the 2.5 hour
format. It was tragic for GOF, which ended up leaving a massive portion of
story and congruency on the cutting room floor. It made no sense the way it
hopped awkwardly from one scene to the next and spent WAY too much time
dealing with the Yule Ball. Dumbledore came off more as a confused thug than
anything else and the movies greatest redeeming quality was probably the FX
and sound.
This disaster is fresh in my mind and has me very worried about OotP, which
is my favorite book so far. Luckily, not only a new director, but a new
screenplay writer worked on this film and the reviews of recent screeners
have been pretty good so far. One of them seems to have been written by a
actual HP fan.
Anyway, I can't wait. The 7 minute behind the scenes clip on Google Videos
has my mouth watering and if nothing else, I know that Bellatrix, Sirius and
Luna will be worth seeing the movie for.
 
Cheers,
Ronin
 


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue Mar  6 17:17:57 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:17:57 EST
Subject: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
Message-ID: <d35.3bf28ec.331efc45@aol.com>


There was a screening of OoP recently in Chicago, and someone posted a  
review of it and answered quite a few questions about it as well.  He gave  it a 
very favorable review and said the director took the feeling of things back  
toward the first movies, including how Dumbledore was portrayed.  (I've  never 
liked Gambon's Dumbledore either).  
 
I'm hoping OoP will turn out to be marvelous - although it is 2 1/2 hours,  
which is a disappointment, but not unexpected.  

Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now!" Mrs. Figg,  OotP

My HP stories: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire) 
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From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar  6 23:41:33 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:41:33 -0000
Subject: First OotP Movie review
Message-ID: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com>

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31770

Eggplant

 




From kchuplis at alltel.net  Wed Mar  7 02:16:33 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:16:33 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review
In-Reply-To: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com>
References: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>

That was very interesting.  The fact that someone who isn't even an  
avid Potter fan found it enjoyable and good is extremely promising.   
I had to laugh at how annoyed he was by Umbridge. I thought to  
myself, that is how she was written. The character has you at a  
heightened frustration pitch halfway (if not sooner) through the  
book, why not the movie. So, they have probably done extremely well.

On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:41 PM, eggplant107 wrote:

> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31770
>
> Eggplant
>
>
>




From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  7 07:31:56 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:31:56 -0000
Subject: More movie reviews
Message-ID: <eslppc+7hnq@eGroups.com>

I found some more OotP movie reviews:

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/?articleID=9592


http://www.mugglenet.com/movies/movie5/reviews/enyafreak.shtml 


http://www.mugglenet.com/movies/movie5/reviews/triwizard.shtml 


http://www.mugglenet.com/movies/movie5/reviews/zeenat.shtml

Eggplant






From Ronin_47 at comcast.net  Wed Mar  7 14:52:09 2007
From: Ronin_47 at comcast.net (Ronin_47)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:52:09 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review
In-Reply-To: <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
References: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com> <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <004201c760c8$2f27c650$7bd02444@TheRonin>

--Karen Wrote--
>>>That was very interesting. The fact that someone who isn't even an 
>avid Potter fan found it enjoyable and good is extremely promising. 
>I had to laugh at how annoyed he was by Umbridge. I thought to 
>myself, that is how she was written. The character has you at a 
>heightened frustration pitch halfway (if not sooner) through the 
>book, why not the movie. So, they have probably done extremely well.<<<
 
 
 
--Ronin'sComments--
This review was discomforting to me.  It was a good review, but from a
person who thinks that JKR's writing is bad or average and who thought that
GOF was the best HP movie.
The other review that appeared was much better IMO, because it was from
someone who had actually read the books and was aware of all of the cuts
that were made in GOF, etc. He says that the film was obviously cut, but
that the important details are included and it is taken from the book,
rather than being re-written. Also, the movie was incomplete as editing and
effects still need to be completed. This was very comforting to me.
 
Cheers,
Ronin


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From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  7 05:41:13 2007
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:41:13 -0000
Subject: First OotP Movie review
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Message-ID: <eslj9p+bp7d@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31770
> 
> Eggplant


There are also three reviews on MuggleNet. Unlike this one, MuggleNet 
reviewers have read the HP books, so they could compare OotP the movie 
and OotP the book. 

Don't read these reviews if you like to be surprised and don't want to 
know the content of the movie. Well, we all know the content, of 
course :-), I mean if you don't want to know what are the changes, what 
scenes are missing and other stuff like that.

zanooda






From taguem at jmsearch.com  Wed Mar  7 18:37:15 2007
From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle A. Tague)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:37:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review
In-Reply-To: <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
References: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com> <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <028301c760e7$a5d1f220$4246dfdf@MichelleT>

Oh I'm excited to see OOTP, but so NOT excited to "see" that WOMAN!!!
Ohhhhhh I JUST DESPISED HER!!!!!!!!!!
 
Michelle, 
Pennsylvania
 

  _____  

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Karen
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:18 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review



That was very interesting. The fact that someone who isn't even an 
avid Potter fan found it enjoyable and good is extremely promising. 
I had to laugh at how annoyed he was by Umbridge. I thought to 
myself, that is how she was written. The character has you at a 
heightened frustration pitch halfway (if not sooner) through the 
book, why not the movie. So, they have probably done extremely well.

On Mar 6, 2007, at 5:41 PM, eggplant107 wrote:

> http://www.aintitco <http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31770>
ol.com/node/31770
>
> Eggplant
>
>
>



 


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From penhaligon at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 19:18:11 2007
From: penhaligon at gmail.com (Suzanne Chiles aka Panhandle)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:18:11 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review
In-Reply-To: <028301c760e7$a5d1f220$4246dfdf@MichelleT>
References: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com> <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net> <028301c760e7$a5d1f220$4246dfdf@MichelleT>
Message-ID: <45EF0FF3.1080108@gmail.com>

Michelle A. Tague wrote:
> Oh I'm excited to see OOTP, but so NOT excited to "see" that WOMAN!!!
> Ohhhhhh I JUST DESPISED HER!!!!!!!!!!
>  
> Michelle, 
> Pennsylvania
>   
I look at Umbridge as "that woman" you love to hate! I saw Imelda 
Staunton in an old British mystery show the other day, and her 
performance got me really excited to see her in this movie.

Panhandle

-- 
Jane Penhaligon    penhaligon at gmail.com



From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Mar  8 05:04:44 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:04:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] First OotP Movie review
In-Reply-To: <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
References: <esku7d+fsi0@eGroups.com>
 <CCAEFC0F-CF09-44B2-8699-1CFB0CF399B7@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <f14234f3c1b73497e9d7df357eaeeb3e@verizon.net>

Yes, I also found it interesting that a self-professed non-Potter fan 
enjoyed it. Especially if he hasn't followed the full storyline via the 
books. Found it interesting when he said "nothing happened" in the 
movie. I think some will feel that way, as GOF was wall-to-wall action. 
OotP is more about the backstory of the Marauders/Snape, and the 
strengthening of Harry's character/leadership. I laughed when he said 
he didn't like the Grawp scenes and thought they could be cut out. 
Someone in earlier posts here had said the same thing! I thought Grawp 
was a pretty irrelevant tangent to the HP saga, myself. I would rather 
have seen them follow the S.P.E.W storyline just for laughs. I liked 
Dobby! Though Winky was way too annoying! The reviewer said he thought 
JKR was a very mediocre writer...I have to disagree with that. She 
ain't Shakespeare, or even Tolkein, but I think her writing is fluid 
and perfectly appropriate for the content. Though OotP wasn't my 
favorite book (I felt it meandered too much, was too long, and somewhat 
hard to follow) I still think it has lots of interesting plot points.
This reviewer said the movie was 2.5 hours long and that he felt it 
could be edited down to 'tighten it up'. Hmmm....don't know if a true 
Potter fan would agree with that. Hope they don't chop anymore! More is 
more, as far as I'm concerned! :-)
Valerie

On Mar 6, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Karen wrote:

> That was very interesting. The fact that someone who isn't even an
>  avid Potter fan found it enjoyable and good is extremely promising.
>  I had to laugh at how annoyed he was by Umbridge. I thought to
>  myself, that is how she was written. The character has you at a
>  heightened frustration pitch halfway (if not sooner) through the
>  book, why not the movie. So, they have probably done extremely well.


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From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar  8 16:30:19 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:30:19 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?The_picture_of_Dan_that_isn=92t_cropped_?=
Message-ID: <espdmr+nhhd@eGroups.com>

If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of Daniel Radcliffe
from the play Equus, the one that doesn't stop at his waist it's at: 
     
http://tinyurl.com/2lo9uz 





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  8 18:47:02 2007
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:47:02 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:_The_picture_of_Dan_that_isn=92t_cropped?=
In-Reply-To: <espdmr+nhhd@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <espln6+aark@eGroups.com>

---  "eggplant107" <eggplant107 at ...> wrote:
>
> If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of 
> Daniel Radcliffe from the play Equus, the one that 
> doesn't stop at his waist it's at: 
>      
> http://tinyurl.com/2lo9uz
>

bboyminn:

we discussed this recently and came to the conclusion
that it is probably a PhotoShopped image, but none
the less, it is a nice photo. Revealing, appealing,
and makes Dan look generously proportioned. 

We check with DanRadcliffe.com to make sure Dan's
management people were aware of it, and apparently
they are, but have chosen to do nothing about it. 

Maybe Dan is flattered by it.

Steve/bboyminn




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Fri Mar  9 06:56:59 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:56:59 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
Message-ID: <d6b.11457f9.33225f3b@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/6/07 8:50:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Ronin_47 at comcast.net writes:


> I have to agree with most of what you've said. Although to me, Michael
> Gambon's Dumbledore is horrible. Nothing against him personally or as an
> actor in general, but he is the furthest thing from the Dumbledore I see
> when I'm reading the books, which is especially evident in GOF. I suppose it
> was more the result of bad directing than anything, but I've never really
> liked Gambon's portrayal of DD. There are so many other actors who could
> play that part; Michael Caine, Peter O'Toole, Sean Connery, Ian McKellen,
> Jeremy Irons, etc.
> 

Sandy:

Michael Gambon as Dumbledore; one of my soapbox issues with the movies.
I absolutely HATE his portrayal of DD, but I don't know who to blame. Richard 
Harris was so perfect as DD, but there are definitely others who could have 
stepped in and done just as well. Michael Gambon is not one of them. I know 
what's his name(?) -- sorry, having a senior moment -- oh, I've got it(!), 
Alphonse Cauron is responsible for the way Gambon played DD in POA. but since he was 
not the director foe GOF, why wasn't his (Gambon's) performance better? 
Perhaps Gambon just doesn't have it in him to play DD properly. And what's with the 
costume change? They dressed HGarris the way DD is written in the books, but 
they have Gambon in that ugly mauve robe that looks like a dressing gown, and 
that stupid flat hat. Harris changed costumes several times, each one as 
beautiful as the last, but Gambon has only worn that same ugly costume through both 
movies he has been in. That can't be his fault, though.

Jeremy Irons -- yum! How do you think he would have done as Snape? But Alan 
Rickman is perfect as Snape anyway. What do you think of Patrick Stewart as 
Dumbledore? Almost anyone would have been better than Gambon.

Sandy


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From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Mar  9 07:37:50 2007
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:37:50 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:_The_picture_of_Dan_that_isn=92t_cropped?=
In-Reply-To: <espln6+aark@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <esr2se+doqq@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "eggplant107" <eggplant107@> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of 
> > Daniel Radcliffe from the play Equus, the one that 
> > doesn't stop at his waist it's at: 
> >      
> > http://tinyurl.com/2lo9uz
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> we discussed this recently and came to the conclusion
> that it is probably a PhotoShopped image, but none
> the less, it is a nice photo. Revealing, appealing,
> and makes Dan look generously proportioned. 
> 
> We check with DanRadcliffe.com to make sure Dan's
> management people were aware of it, and apparently
> they are, but have chosen to do nothing about it. 
> 
> Maybe Dan is flattered by it.

Geoff:
I did comment on one of the other groups, I think, that 
I followed a link several weeks ago and landed up with 
this picture which seemed to have originated from a 
German site which was devoted to manipulated photos.....

I'm going to see "Equus" in May. Perhaps I might be able 
to comment after that. :-)




From Ronin_47 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  9 12:08:25 2007
From: Ronin_47 at comcast.net (Ronin_47)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:08:25 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
In-Reply-To: <d6b.11457f9.33225f3b@aol.com>
References: <d6b.11457f9.33225f3b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004001c76243$a464d170$829efd45@TheRonin>

--Sandy Wrote--
<SNIP>
>>>Jeremy Irons -- yum! How do you think he would have done as Snape? But
Alan 
Rickman is perfect as Snape anyway. What do you think of Patrick Stewart as 
Dumbledore? Almost anyone would have been better than Gambon.
<<<
 
 
--Ronin's Comments--
I think Jeremy Irons is such a good actor that with some make-up he could
play any part.
Alan Rickman is perfect as Snape though. I couldn't see anyone else playing
Snape.
Patrick Stewart is another great actor who could play just about any part.
He might've been a decent Mad Eye Moddy as well. But with some make-up and
costuming, I could see him doing a very good Dumbledore. (Better than
Gambone)
Ian McKellen would've been the best choice IMO, but at the time of Richard
Harris's death, he was busy with LOTR and X-Men as well as a few other
projects and was just not available. It was probably not interesting to him
at the time anyway because the role would've been too similar to Gandalf.
 
Cheers,
Ronin

  _____  



From kchuplis at alltel.net  Fri Mar  9 14:21:39 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:21:39 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
References: <d6b.11457f9.33225f3b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000701c76256$409ba480$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>


> Jeremy Irons -- yum! How do you think he would have done as Snape? But
Alan
> Rickman is perfect as Snape anyway. What do you think of Patrick Stewart
as
> Dumbledore? Almost anyone would have been better than Gambon.
>
> Sandy
>
>

I had always wished they had been able to cast Patrick STewart as DD. He has
the "steel" behind the velvet glove needed. But who knows if that was even
possible. But still, I agree. Michael Gambon just has never been a
comfortable fit. So far.





From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Mar  9 18:35:01 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:35:01 EST
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=20Re:The=20picture=20of=20Dan=20that=20isn=E2=80=99t=20?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?cropped=20?=
Message-ID: <be5.12171f4f.332302d5@aol.com>

>>If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of Daniel  Radcliffe
from the play Equus, the one that doesn't stop at his waist it's  at: <<
 
The lower part of that photo is quite clearly not Dan - it's been  
Photoshopped.  Those legs are much heavier than Dan's for one thing (Dan is  muscular 
but "slight" in build as the reviews keep saying, which emphasizes his  youth in 
the part).  And the other parts don't bear mentioning, LOL!   

Lynda

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(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire) 
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Fri Mar  9 19:28:35 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:28:35 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie]  Re:The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
References: <be5.12171f4f.332302d5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001301c76281$213c9470$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

I honestly can't see that one follows the other here. I remember my mom
accidentally walking in on my nephew in the bath at Dan's age (and he was
taller, but about that body build) and later commenting "whoa, he is
"well-developed". :D  But we will never know will we! LOL!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artsylynda at aol.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The picture of Dan that isn't cropped


> >>If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of Daniel  Radcliffe
> from the play Equus, the one that doesn't stop at his waist it's  at: <<
>
> The lower part of that photo is quite clearly not Dan - it's been
> Photoshopped.  Those legs are much heavier than Dan's for one thing (Dan
is  muscular
> but "slight" in build as the reviews keep saying, which emphasizes his
youth in
> the part).  And the other parts don't bear mentioning, LOL!
>
> Lynda
>
> "The cat's among the pixies now!" Mrs. Figg,  OotP
>





From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  9 22:07:40 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:07:40 -0000
Subject: The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
In-Reply-To: <001301c76281$213c9470$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <esslrc+vi4n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> I honestly can't see that one follows the other here. I remember my 
mom
> accidentally walking in on my nephew in the bath at Dan's age (and he 
was
> taller, but about that body build) and later commenting "whoa, he is
> "well-developed". :D  But we will never know will we! LOL!
> 

I gather from this that you actually believe that Dan would pose in the 
nude?

Frankly, I don't.  A discreet nude scene in a play is a whole lot 
different from a photo which will live forever on the internet. 

Lizzie




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  9 22:19:10 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:19:10 -0000
Subject: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
In-Reply-To: <d6b.11457f9.33225f3b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <essmgu+s878@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
> 
> Michael Gambon as Dumbledore; one of my soapbox issues with the 
movies.
> I absolutely HATE his portrayal of DD, but I don't know who to 
blame. Richard 
> Harris was so perfect as DD, but there are definitely others who 
could have 
> stepped in and done just as well. Michael Gambon is not one of 
them. I know 
> what's his name(?) -- sorry, having a senior moment -- oh, I've got 
it(!), 
> Alphonse Cauron is responsible for the way Gambon played DD in POA. 
but since he was 
> not the director foe GOF, why wasn't his (Gambon's) performance 
better? 
> Perhaps Gambon just doesn't have it in him to play DD properly. And 
what's with the 
> costume change? They dressed HGarris the way DD is written in the 
books, but 
> they have Gambon in that ugly mauve robe that looks like a dressing 
gown, and 
> that stupid flat hat. Harris changed costumes several times, each 
one as 
> beautiful as the last, but Gambon has only worn that same ugly 
costume through both 
> movies he has been in. That can't be his fault, though.
> 

Cuaron has a lot to answer for besides Gambon's Dumbledore!  Poor 
Flitwick!  Even though the half-goblin wasn't what JKR had in mind 
(she said Flitwick was merely short with distant goblin blood); I 
thought he was adorable.  The current Flitwick is rather frightening 
IMO!!  And those sloppy uniforms . . . detentions all around for 
loose ties and shirttails hanging out!!  At least he didn't mess with 
Snape!

Lizzie Mae






From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Mar  9 22:58:50 2007
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:58:50 -0000
Subject: The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
In-Reply-To: <esslrc+vi4n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <essora+1sla@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Lizzie Mae Lilly" <lizzy1933 at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis@> wrote:
> >
> > I honestly can't see that one follows the other here. I remember my 
> mom
> > accidentally walking in on my nephew in the bath at Dan's age (and he 
> was
> > taller, but about that body build) and later commenting "whoa, he is
> > "well-developed". :D  But we will never know will we! LOL!
> > 
> 
> I gather from this that you actually believe that Dan would pose in the 
> nude?
> 
> Frankly, I don't.  A discreet nude scene in a play is a whole lot 
> different from a photo which will live forever on the internet. 
> 
> Lizzie

Geoff:
He was in the nude for those promotional views. It quite clear 
because you can see his hips and hence the fact that he is not 
wearing trousers.





From kchuplis at alltel.net  Fri Mar  9 23:02:17 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:02:17 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
References: <esslrc+vi4n@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <003501c7629e$fc250d70$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>

Well, yeah, I do think he would for theater.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lizzie Mae Lilly" <lizzy1933 at yahoo.com>
To: <HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The picture of Dan that isn't cropped


> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
> >
> > I honestly can't see that one follows the other here. I remember my
> mom
> > accidentally walking in on my nephew in the bath at Dan's age (and he
> was
> > taller, but about that body build) and later commenting "whoa, he is
> > "well-developed". :D  But we will never know will we! LOL!
> >
>
> I gather from this that you actually believe that Dan would pose in the
> nude?
>
> Frankly, I don't.  A discreet nude scene in a play is a whole lot
> different from a photo which will live forever on the internet.
>
> Lizzie
>
>
>
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From kchuplis at alltel.net  Sat Mar 10 00:16:53 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:16:53 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
In-Reply-To: <essora+1sla@eGroups.com>
References: <essora+1sla@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <F0341D22-1BDF-4D3E-A1E8-0C411C92B545@alltel.net>


On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Geoff Bannister wrote:

> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Lizzie Mae Lilly"  
> <lizzy1933 at ...> wrote:
>>
>> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis@> wrote:
>>>
>>> I honestly can't see that one follows the other here. I remember my
>> mom
>>> accidentally walking in on my nephew in the bath at Dan's age  
>>> (and he
>> was
>>> taller, but about that body build) and later commenting "whoa, he is
>>> "well-developed". :D  But we will never know will we! LOL!
>>>
>>
>> I gather from this that you actually believe that Dan would pose  
>> in the
>> nude?
>>
>> Frankly, I don't.  A discreet nude scene in a play is a whole lot
>> different from a photo which will live forever on the internet.
>>
>> Lizzie
>
> Geoff:
> He was in the nude for those promotional views. It quite clear
> because you can see his hips and hence the fact that he is not
> wearing trousers.
>
>

Here's another bit of proof. (not frontal)

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html? 
in_article_id=37669&in_page_id=7

I remember seeing a long time ago a very nude (but cropped) pic of  
Dan (and it was a real production type shot) when he was probably 12  
or so. I don't think he (or his parents ) have trouble with  
purposeful, tasteful nudity.



From kchuplis at alltel.net  Sat Mar 10 03:45:15 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:45:15 -0600
Subject: A different Harry
Message-ID: <E7198366-0165-4D6F-AFF3-61BA17D8462B@alltel.net>

I just thought I'd mention here that I've been REALLY enjoying a  
series of books , about....a wizard named Harry. I find it just weird  
that two people were at the same time, developing a wizard named  
Harry for a series of books; one a child, one an adult.  These are  
about Harry Dresden and are by the author Jim Butcher. They are  
great. To be honest, it's like IMO, what Harry should grow up to be  
like at least a bit if he were American. It's like a gift if you ask  
me. Someone who writes with humor, and compelling characters. They  
are very noir, but  there is humor. There is beauty and pain and  
someone who just wants to do the right thing, despite everyone  
feeling he is basically destined to fall to the dark eventually.  
Anyhow, if you read Storm Front, I think you will either get hooked  
or not. They are definitely entertaining. If you do, remember that he  
wrote the first three books of the series by 1996 but didn't find a  
publisher until 2000. Pretty weird, but really nice to look forward to.

Check out his wiki entry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butcher

What's really nice is I dropped the author an email on his site, just  
to let him know how much I was enjoying his series and he wrote a  
nice chatty email back *the same day*.  Anywho, check them out if you  
are interested.

I know return us to our regular programming.



From rarpsl at optonline.net  Sat Mar 10 04:52:25 2007
From: rarpsl at optonline.net (Robert A. Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:52:25 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A different Harry
In-Reply-To: <E7198366-0165-4D6F-AFF3-61BA17D8462B@alltel.net>
References: <E7198366-0165-4D6F-AFF3-61BA17D8462B@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <p06240801c217e92e522d@[192.168.1.11]>

At 21:45 -0600 on 03/09/2007, Karen wrote about [HPFGU-Movie] A 
different Harry:

>I just thought I'd mention here that I've been REALLY enjoying a
>series of books , about....a wizard named Harry. I find it just weird
>that two people were at the same time, developing a wizard named
>Harry for a series of books; one a child, one an adult. These are
>about Harry Dresden and are by the author Jim Butcher. They are
>great. To be honest, it's like IMO, what Harry should grow up to be
>like at least a bit if he were American. It's like a gift if you ask
>me. Someone who writes with humor, and compelling characters. They
>are very noir, but there is humor. There is beauty and pain and
>someone who just wants to do the right thing, despite everyone
>feeling he is basically destined to fall to the dark eventually.
>Anyhow, if you read Storm Front, I think you will either get hooked
>or not. They are definitely entertaining. If you do, remember that he
>wrote the first three books of the series by 1996 but didn't find a
>publisher until 2000. Pretty weird, but really nice to look forward to.

SciFi Channel (in the US) is running an adaption of the Series at 
10PM ET Sunday Evenings. As with many adaptions (unlike HP) there are 
major differences between the Screen Harry Dresden and the Book one.



From kchuplis at alltel.net  Sat Mar 10 05:15:20 2007
From: kchuplis at alltel.net (Karen)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:15:20 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A different Harry
In-Reply-To: <p06240801c217e92e522d@[192.168.1.11]>
References: <E7198366-0165-4D6F-AFF3-61BA17D8462B@alltel.net> <p06240801c217e92e522d@[192.168.1.11]>
Message-ID: <D77AC8C7-CA9E-494D-8566-317A9ECBC939@alltel.net>


On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:

>
> SciFi Channel (in the US) is running an adaption of the Series at
> 10PM ET Sunday Evenings. As with many adaptions (unlike HP) there are
> major differences between the Screen Harry Dresden and the Book one.
>

That's what led me to the books. I enjoy the series, but when I heard  
it was based on a set of novels, I thought I should read them. Yes,  
major differences, and the books are hugely better, but they really  
do capture the flavor well and I think Blackthorne is VERY good. I  
saw an interview with him and it freaked me out a bit to hear his  
natural British accent. Man, does he have midwestern US dialect down  
pat. 



From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Mar 10 11:29:13 2007
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff Bannister)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:29:13 -0000
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re:_The_picture_of_Dan_that_isn=92t_cropped?=
In-Reply-To: <esr2se+doqq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <esu4q9+fc0p@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" <gbannister10 at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> >
> > ---  "eggplant107" <eggplant107@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of 
> > > Daniel Radcliffe from the play Equus, the one that 
> > > doesn't stop at his waist it's at: 
> > >      
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2lo9uz
> > >
> > 
> > bboyminn:
> > 
> > we discussed this recently and came to the conclusion
> > that it is probably a PhotoShopped image, but none
> > the less, it is a nice photo. Revealing, appealing,
> > and makes Dan look generously proportioned. 
> > 
> > We check with DanRadcliffe.com to make sure Dan's
> > management people were aware of it, and apparently
> > they are, but have chosen to do nothing about it. 
> > 
> > Maybe Dan is flattered by it.
> 
> Geoff:
> I did comment on one of the other groups, I think, that 
> I followed a link several weeks ago and landed up with 
> this picture which seemed to have originated from a 
> German site which was devoted to manipulated photos.....

Geoff:
Adding a bit to my own post, it wasn't a German site, it 
was a guy with a German name in the US - Herbert von Koln.

I tracked this down on the web today and he admits it is 
a manip....

<quote>
and compare that with my manip : 
http://pics.livejournal.com/herbertvonkoln/pic/0000138k

They used my manip as a real image!!! 
I'm shocked!!
</quote>

The link leads to "that" picture,




From kfreimu at gmail.com  Sat Mar 10 13:31:04 2007
From: kfreimu at gmail.com (kristaf0726)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:31:04 -0000
Subject: A different Harry
In-Reply-To: <D77AC8C7-CA9E-494D-8566-317A9ECBC939@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <esubuo+p1ke@eGroups.com>

I also started watching the show on SciFi & picked up the first book 
Thursday! I'm really enjoying both also.
Krista

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Karen <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> 
> >
> > SciFi Channel (in the US) is running an adaption of the Series at
> > 10PM ET Sunday Evenings. As with many adaptions (unlike HP) there 
are
> > major differences between the Screen Harry Dresden and the Book 
one.
> >
> 
> That's what led me to the books. I enjoy the series, but when I 
heard  
> it was based on a set of novels, I thought I should read them. 
Yes,  
> major differences, and the books are hugely better, but they 
really  
> do capture the flavor well and I think Blackthorne is VERY good. I  
> saw an interview with him and it freaked me out a bit to hear his  
> natural British accent. Man, does he have midwestern US dialect 
down  
> pat.
>





From rarpsl at optonline.net  Sat Mar 10 21:36:45 2007
From: rarpsl at optonline.net (Robert A. Rosenberg)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:36:45 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A different Harry
In-Reply-To: <D77AC8C7-CA9E-494D-8566-317A9ECBC939@alltel.net>
References: <E7198366-0165-4D6F-AFF3-61BA17D8462B@alltel.net>
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At 23:15 -0600 on 03/09/2007, Karen wrote about Re: [HPFGU-Movie] A 
different Harry:

>I saw an interview with him and it freaked me out a bit to hear his
>natural British accent. Man, does he have midwestern US dialect down
>pat.

He is not the only one. The actor who plays House is another with a 
British accent who does a US accent for the role. The (First? 
Second?) New Doctor Who actor has a Welsh accent but uses a British 
one for the his role (the Doctor Who Confidential Interviews make his 
true accent apparent). It is usual for an actor to use one accent for 
a role when their usual accent is different.



From minnie_mouse0229 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 12 03:45:41 2007
From: minnie_mouse0229 at yahoo.com (minnie_mouse0229)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:45:41 -0000
Subject: The picture of Dan that isnt cropped
In-Reply-To: <espln6+aark@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <et2id5+oo3n@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "eggplant107" <eggplant107@> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to see the uncensored nude picture of
> > Daniel Radcliffe from the play Equus, the one that
> > doesn't stop at his waist it's at:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2lo9uz
> >
>
> bboyminn:
>
> we discussed this recently and came to the conclusion
> that it is probably a PhotoShopped image, but none
> the less, it is a nice photo. Revealing, appealing,
> and makes Dan look generously proportioned.
>
> We check with DanRadcliffe.com to make sure Dan's
> management people were aware of it, and apparently
> they are, but have chosen to do nothing about it.
>
> Maybe Dan is flattered by it.
>
> Steve/bboyminn
>
It's also being sold on eBay, supposedly for around $400. Hopefully
eBay has gotten wise to this, or someone is really going to get
taken. (As this is my first post to the group, I hope I did it right.
I tried it once but nothing happened. Hopefully this time it will)

minnie_mouse




From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Mon Mar 12 06:34:18 2007
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:34:18 EDT
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: First Equus review!!!!!!! - Casting Dan
Message-ID: <c00.1126f2b2.33264e6a@aol.com>

In a message dated 3/9/07 5:20:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
lizzy1933 at yahoo.com writes:


> Cuaron has a lot to answer for besides Gambon's Dumbledore! Poor 
> Flitwick! Even though the half-goblin wasn't what JKR had in mind 
> (she said Flitwick was merely short with distant goblin blood); I 
> thought he was adorable. The current Flitwick is rather frightening 
> IMO!! And those sloppy uniforms . . . detentions all around for 
> loose ties and shirttails hanging out!! At least he didn't mess with 
> Snape!
> 
> 

Sandy:

I think on this list I can get away with saying I agree, totally.



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From artsylynda at aol.com  Mon Mar 12 18:46:39 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:46:39 EDT
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=20Re:=20The=20picture=20of=20Dan=20that=20isn?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99t=20cropped?=
Message-ID: <d2f.146bbd0.3326fa0f@aol.com>

>>It's also being sold on eBay, supposedly for around $400. Hopefully  
eBay has gotten wise to this, or someone is really going to get 
taken.  (As this is my first post to the group, I hope I did it right. 
I tried it  once but nothing happened. Hopefully this time it  will)

minnie_mouse<<
 
You did fine, and welcome to the group!  Ebay should have taken that  down at 
the first report!  They're in enough trouble with JK Rowling as it  is - if 
she takes them to court (and from something I read, it's possible),  she'll 
clean their clocks.  Who knows, Dan may take them to court over this  too.  He's 
pretty protective of the fans.  (If you don't know - eBay  has allowed tons of 
sales of "autographed" HP books, and JKR swears they're all  fakes, so she is 
NOT happy, because she's sent them repeated requests to stop  such listings 
on their site).  I read this stuff on Leaky - you can look it  up if you want.  
(look for articles on JK Rowling)

Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now!" Mrs. Figg,  OotP

My HP stories: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire_ 
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPRefinersFire) 
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From elanor.isolda at googlemail.com  Mon Mar 12 20:29:56 2007
From: elanor.isolda at googlemail.com (Elanor Isolda)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:29:56 +0000
Subject: Book Release Party at Sectus!
Message-ID: <6493bc80703121329l35978d53r84309c62c81ed501@mail.gmail.com>

Sectus 2007 is pleased to announce the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Reading Party, in association with Fiction Alley, the web's largest archive
of Harry Potter-specific fanfiction and art.

To celebrate the release of the final Harry Potter book during the
conference, the venue will be open from 10pm on Friday July 20th. In the
run-up to midnight, there will be themed entertainments, including a
last-minute theory competition.

When the clock strikes midnight, the wait will finally be over and
pre-ordered books, which are being delivered direct to the venue, will be
handed out.

The building will then remain open throughout the night, with various areas
available for reading and discussing the book for those who want to dive
straight in.

Anyone attending Sectus can now order their copy of Harry Potter and the
Deathly Hallows through the conference website, but hurry, because there is
only a limited number available.

We look forward to welcoming you to the ultimate book release party!

Please feel free to contact me if you have any queries, or check out the
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Regards

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From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 12 21:16:20 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:16:20 -0000
Subject: The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
In-Reply-To: <003501c7629e$fc250d70$b301010a@ConsolidatedTelephone.local>
Message-ID: <et4fv4+c91q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Karen" <kchuplis at ...> wrote:
>
> Well, yeah, I do think he would for theater.
> 

Hmmm, isn't that what I said? (see below) Anyway, he's already done 
it!!

Lizzie

> > From: "Lizzie Mae Lilly" <lizzy1933 at ...>
 
> > I gather from this that you actually believe that Dan would pose 
in the
> > nude?
> >
> > Frankly, I don't.  A discreet nude scene in a play is a whole lot
> > different from a photo which will live forever on the internet.
> >
> > Lizzie
> >





From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 12 21:21:29 2007
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (Lizzie Mae Lilly)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:21:29 -0000
Subject: The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
In-Reply-To: <essora+1sla@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <et4g8p+inhp@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at ...> wrote:
> 
> Geoff:
> He was in the nude for those promotional views. It quite clear 
> because you can see his hips and hence the fact that he is not 
> wearing trousers.
>

Nah, he could have been wearing low-rider trousers or even bikini 
briefs!

Lizzie





From artsylynda at aol.com  Tue Mar 13 19:39:08 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:39:08 EDT
Subject: The picture of Dan that isn't cropped
Message-ID: <d10.5968dd6.332857dc@aol.com>

>>he could have been wearing low-rider trousers or even bikini  
briefs!

Lizzie<<

According to an interview with the director, and another with the producer,  
Dan had no problem stripping off for the pictures.  And at least one of  them 
goes far below where any "low riders" or bikinis would go.  He said  himself 
that if the part called for it, he'd have no problem "getting [his] kit  off" 
(taking off his clothes).  His hero is Gary Oldman, and Dan conferred  with 
Gary about doing nude scenes on stage.  The photo shoot was done in a  private 
place (a closed airplane hanger) so they had privacy.  If you read  the 
interviews available on Leaky, DanRadcliffe.com, DanRadcliffe.co.uk, you'll  see 
numerous references to this photo shoot and a lot of indications that he was  nude 
for those scenes where he looked like he was nude.  Not that it  matters, of 
course.  :)
 
 
Lynda

"The cat's among the pixies now!" Mrs. Figg,  OotP

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From eggplant107 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 14 05:46:32 2007
From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (eggplant107)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:46:32 -0000
Subject: 2 new movie reviews
Message-ID: <et827o+dce6@eGroups.com>

These are even more positive than the last ones. One said it made Lord
of the Rings look like a cartoon, and the movie isn't even finished.

http://www.aintitcool.com:80/node/31863 

Eggplant






From Ronin_47 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 14 13:01:37 2007
From: Ronin_47 at comcast.net (Ronin_47)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:01:37 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] 2 new movie reviews
In-Reply-To: <et827o+dce6@eGroups.com>
References: <et827o+dce6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c76638$ea15afc0$829efd45@TheRonin>

--Eggplant Wrote--
>>>These are even more positive than the last ones. One said it made Lord
of the Rings look like a cartoon, and the movie isn't even finished.

 <http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31863>
http://www.aintitcool.com:80/node/31863 
<<<
 
 
 
--Ronin's Comments--
Thanks for posting these reviews. 
 
This is great!
 
It kind of worries me that most of the reviewers seemed to thing GOF was so
great, but their spoilers seem to confirm that all of the information that I
would consider critical is included in this film.
 
I really can't wait to see this finished movie.
 
Cheers,
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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Mar 15 21:00:53 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:00:53 EDT
Subject: New interview with David Yates
Message-ID: <bf1.fd8b013.332b0e05@aol.com>

There's an interesting new interview with OotP director David Yates  online 
now, and BOY is he complimentary of Dan as an actor!  
 
 
Part 1:  _http://tinyurl.com/2fhutr_ (http://tinyurl.com/2fhutr) 
Part 2:  _http://tinyurl.com/33mtkb_ (http://tinyurl.com/33mtkb) 
 
And did I post about the great interview with Richard  Griffiths' understudy 
in "Equus"?  His comments about Dan fit right in with  the image I had of Dan 
- he said Dan was "gleeful" about having to work with a  new actor with only 
one rehearsal!  And when this understudy got lost in  his lines (he's onstage 
for the entire play), he just said "Go on" and Dan  filled in.  That's pretty 
darned sophisticated acting for someone doing his  first real part on stage.  
Way to go, Dan!  Here's the link to that  understudy article - the bits about 
the Equus understudy are a few paragraphs  in:  _http://tinyurl.com/3bwfqy_ 
(http://tinyurl.com/3bwfqy) 
 
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

My blog: _www.abraxan.blogspot.com_ (http://www.abraxan.blogspot.com/)   
Read my Harry Potter fics here: 
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 27 18:23:52 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:23:52 -0000
Subject: OoP omitted scenes (spoilers)
Message-ID: <eubnfo+te4q@eGroups.com>

Spoiler space. Don't read this post if you haven't read the reviews
and don't want to know what will and won't be in the OoP film.
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Does anyone else get the idea from the reviews posted so far that
certain favorite (or important) scenes are going to be omitted? With
no Mundungus, we're not going to see Figgy battering him with catfood
cans. The touching scene in which Alice Longbottom gives Neville the
gum wrapper is also being left out. So, apparently, is the delicious
confrontation between Sirius Black and Snape at 12 GP, in which Snape
gets Sirius's goat yet manages to inform him (snidely) that he's been
seen in dog form by Lucius Malfoy on Platform 9 3/4.

I don't mind the omission of Dobby (one house-elf is enough, and they
do need Kreacher), but the Longbottoms are important in relation to
the Neville/Bellatrix conflict (will she Crucio him in the film?) and
the Snape/Sirius confrontation is important because it provides Harry
with his excuse for blaming Black's death on Snape. Figgy battering
Mundungus isn't important, true, but it's a great bit of physical
comedy (and Mundungus deserved it).

More important, they've omitted Harry's excursion into the Pensieve
and made it into a memory revealed by Harry's Protego, apparently--a
bad decision, IMO, because it isn't really a plausible mechanism since
Snape would certainly have stopped that memory immediately had he not
put it in the Pensieve and writing it this way removes Harry's
responsibility for invading Snape's memories. At least they're keeping
"Snape's worst memory." And, IIRC, the scene where Harry informs Snape
that Padfoot is being held where it's hidden (bad paraphrase, sorry)
is also being kept--very important since it's Snape who sends the
Order to the MoM.

I can't remember whether Molly's Boggart is shown. I think that's cut,
too. I can understand why since it takes time and might be confusing
to people unfamiliar with the story, but it's a great scene as it
reads in the book.

Carol, who can happily live without extendable ears and dung bombs and
wishes it were possible to eliminate Grawp




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 27 19:34:15 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:34:15 -0000
Subject: Photo of Neville from OoP film
Message-ID: <eubrjn+2qra@eGroups.com>

I just ran across the photo of Neville from the OoP film. Looks like
they've kept the Mimbulus Mimbletonia, in which case we may get to see
Harry and friends covered in stink sap on the Hogwarts Express (though
I don't recall any references to that scene in the reviews):

http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=184&pos=11

Carol, noting that the site has lots of other stills from the film,
most of which you've probably seen, and of the actors and actresses
playing the new characters




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From juli17 at aol.com  Wed Mar 28 00:53:46 2007
From: juli17 at aol.com (julie)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:53:46 -0000
Subject: OoP omitted scenes (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <eubnfo+te4q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <euceaq+le2a@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Spoiler space. Don't read this post if you haven't read the reviews
> and don't want to know what will and won't be in the OoP film.
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> Does anyone else get the idea from the reviews posted so far that
> certain favorite (or important) scenes are going to be omitted? With
> no Mundungus, we're not going to see Figgy battering him with 
catfood
> cans. The touching scene in which Alice Longbottom gives Neville the
> gum wrapper is also being left out. So, apparently, is the delicious
> confrontation between Sirius Black and Snape at 12 GP, in which 
Snape
> gets Sirius's goat yet manages to inform him (snidely) that he's 
been
> seen in dog form by Lucius Malfoy on Platform 9 3/4.
> 
> I don't mind the omission of Dobby (one house-elf is enough, and 
they
> do need Kreacher), but the Longbottoms are important in relation to
> the Neville/Bellatrix conflict (will she Crucio him in the film?) 
and
> the Snape/Sirius confrontation is important because it provides 
Harry
> with his excuse for blaming Black's death on Snape. Figgy battering
> Mundungus isn't important, true, but it's a great bit of physical
> comedy (and Mundungus deserved it).

Julie:
I will miss these scenes too. I agree that the Sirius/Snape
confrontation is important in the books, though in the movies
there has been much less personal antagonism between Snape
and Harry than in the books. It makes me wonder how--or if--
Harry's hatred of Snape will come across in the HBP movie--
or will his hatred suddenly erupt at the moment Snape "kills"
Dumbledore? 

Carol:
> 
> More important, they've omitted Harry's excursion into the Pensieve
> and made it into a memory revealed by Harry's Protego, apparently--a
> bad decision, IMO, because it isn't really a plausible mechanism 
since
> Snape would certainly have stopped that memory immediately had he 
not
> put it in the Pensieve and writing it this way removes Harry's
> responsibility for invading Snape's memories. At least they're 
keeping
> "Snape's worst memory." And, IIRC, the scene where Harry informs 
Snape
> that Padfoot is being held where it's hidden (bad paraphrase, sorry)
> is also being kept--very important since it's Snape who sends the
> Order to the MoM.

Julie:
I don't like this change either. In the books Harry is at
least partially responsible for the Occlumency lessons
ending, while in the movie Snape apparently ends the lessons
in a snit after Harry sees this "worst memory." Unfortunately
the movies simply aren't able to portray the same character 
complexity as the books, and it shows strongly in movie!Snape,
who has been pretty much defanged through GOF, and in OotP
it sounds like he may just come off as petulant. (Even though
I love Alan Rickman in the role, I still think movie!Snape
and book!Snape bear almost no resemblance--except I do
imagine them both having that same beautifully silky voice!)

Additionally, in this worst memory, while Lily is present,
she does not defend Snape, nor does he call her a mudblood.
Which makes me wonder how much input JKR had. I know
she has asked in the past for scenes to be altered to 
reflect canon (or canon in upcoming books). If she had
oversight here and found Lily's noninvolvement unproblematic,
then one must assume this memory being Snape's worst (or
one of his worst) has no relation to Lily defending him
while he's in such a humiliating position, nor him calling
her a mudblood. At least in the movie, this worst memory
appears to be all about James and Sirius, and not Lily.

Carol:
> I can't remember whether Molly's Boggart is shown. I think that's 
cut,
> too. I can understand why since it takes time and might be confusing
> to people unfamiliar with the story, but it's a great scene as it
> reads in the book.
> 
> Carol, who can happily live without extendable ears and dung bombs 
and
> wishes it were possible to eliminate Grawp
>

Julie:
I could have done without Grawp too, though perhaps he has 
a role to play in DH, necessitating his presence in the OotP
movie. Or it could just be the director's choice for a visual
medium, figuring the special effects laden monster would
play better for the general audience than small moments like
Neville visiting his parents or Snape and Sirius spitting at
each other, or even Molly seeing her children all dead. I 
suspect the latter is actually the case.

Julie, still deterimined to enjoy the movies for what they are
and as a completely separate entity from the books.




From zgirnius at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 28 01:23:50 2007
From: zgirnius at yahoo.com (Zara)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:23:50 -0000
Subject: OoP omitted scenes (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <euceaq+le2a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eucg36+qll7@eGroups.com>


> > Spoiler space. Don't read this post if you haven't read the 
reviews
> > and don't want to know what will and won't be in the OoP film.
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> Julie:
> I will miss these scenes too. I agree that the Sirius/Snape
> confrontation is important in the books, though in the movies
> there has been much less personal antagonism between Snape
> and Harry than in the books. It makes me wonder how--or if--
> Harry's hatred of Snape will come across in the HBP movie--
> or will his hatred suddenly erupt at the moment Snape "kills"
> Dumbledore? 

zgirnius:
I think that they might start to build it in OotP. There is 
Occlumency, and then there is Harry's blaming of Snape for the death 
of Sirius, both of which could be played this way in the movie. I 
would guess that even if they do not, the HBP movie will have Harry 
blaming Snape for the death of Sirius and suspecting him of 
complicity in Draco's plot.

> Julie:
> At least in the movie, this worst memory
> appears to be all about James and Sirius, and not Lily.

zgirnius:
Of course, since it is not labelled with a chapter title, in the 
movie it is simply a bad memory of Snape's. If a relationhip of Snape 
with Lily is important in DH, I think it will be introduced in the DH 
movie.

But I was soo hoping for the Snape/Sirius scene. That would have been 
great!








From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 28 02:54:34 2007
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:54:34 -0000
Subject: OoP omitted scenes (spoilers)
In-Reply-To: <euceaq+le2a@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <eucldb+dciu@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> > Spoiler space. Don't read this post if you haven't read the
reviews and don't want to know what will and won't be in the OoP film.
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> > 
> > <snip>
> Julie:
> I will miss these scenes too. I agree that the Sirius/Snape
> confrontation is important in the books, though in the movies
> there has been much less personal antagonism between Snape
> and Harry than in the books. It makes me wonder how--or if--
> Harry's hatred of Snape will come across in the HBP movie--
> or will his hatred suddenly erupt at the moment Snape "kills"
> Dumbledore? 

Carol again:
Looks like it will have to come from the Occlumency scenes. That and
the Padfoot communication in Umbridge's office appears to be all the
onscreen time they'll have together. (I do hope the fake Veritaserum
gets mentioned, not that it will help the problem you're pointing out,
but it's a good indicator of Snape's opposition to Umbridge and
therefore his support of dumbledore, even though it's only indirectly
related to Voldemort.)


> Julie:
> I don't like this change [omitting the Pensieve excursion] either.
In the books Harry is at least partially responsible for the
Occlumency lessons ending, while in the movie Snape apparently ends
the lessons in a snit after Harry sees this "worst memory."
Unfortunately the movies simply aren't able to portray the same
character complexity as the books, and it shows strongly in
movie!Snape, who has been pretty much defanged through GOF, and in
OotP it sounds like he may just come off as petulant. (Even though I
love Alan Rickman in the role, I still think movie!Snape and
book!Snape bear almost no resemblance--except I do imagine them both
having that same beautifully silky voice!)

Carol:
Well, at least GoF did show him helping to deal with Barty Crouch Jr.
and holding a wand on him--a pretty good indication that Steve Kloves
still views him as DDm. I don't know about this new script writer,
Michael Goldenberg, though. He's an unknown quantity. I can only hope
that David Heyman and JKR (to the extent that she can) are making sure
that the characterization is consistent. Rickman has not just the
voice but the mannerisms and facial expressions down. I love the way
he curls his lip in a sardonic half-smile and sweeps out of a room.
That's Snape to me. Too bad he's twenty years too old for the part and
showing it more in each subsequent film. The voiceover about "easy
prey for the Dark Lord" and the half-hissed, half-spat "Then prove
it!" sound pretty Snapelike to me. I'm just afraid of the influence of
HBP on the film. Far from being defanged, he may end up being depicted
as a traitor in the making. (But did you see the photos of the young
Wormtail? 
http://www.harrymedia.com/img/details.php?image_id=23013&sessionid=fbbb9a7a072c7f3de63c4f886968d23b&sessionid=fbbb9a7a072c7f3de63c4f886968d23b
(link may not work)
He does look like a perfect junior version of Spall!Wormtail, but
would MPP have trusted him if they had seen that expression on his
face? But then, he's appreciating the tormenting of Severus Snape.
Maybe they'd think it was only shared hatred of a common enemy.) 
> 
Julie:
> Additionally, in this worst memory, while Lily is present,
> she does not defend Snape, nor does he call her a mudblood.
> Which makes me wonder how much input JKR had. I know
> she has asked in the past for scenes to be altered to 
> reflect canon (or canon in upcoming books). If she had
> oversight here and found Lily's noninvolvement unproblematic,
> then one must assume this memory being Snape's worst (or
> one of his worst) has no relation to Lily defending him
> while he's in such a humiliating position, nor him calling
> her a mudblood. At least in the movie, this worst memory
> appears to be all about James and Sirius, and not Lily.

Carol:
I may be wrong, but I've always thought Snape/James was more important
than Snape/Lily. But I'm not at all sure that the "worst memory" is
really Snape's worst, any more than I'm sure that Snape is really
"victorious" in HBP's "Snape Victorious." So much of it is Harry's
perspective. And even "Snape's Grudge" (against James) is overplayed,
masking what is IMO his real concern that Black and his werewolf
accomplice are trying to murder Harry. IMO, the PoA movie got that
right. Note that JKR didn't complain about Snape protecting HRH from
the werewolf. I guess it stood in for the less dramatic and memorable
conjuring of stretchers.
>> 
> Julie:
> I could have done without Grawp too, though perhaps he has 
> a role to play in DH, necessitating his presence in the OotP
> movie. Or it could just be the director's choice for a visual
> medium, figuring the special effects laden monster would
> play better for the general audience than small moments like
> Neville visiting his parents or Snape and Sirius spitting at
> each other, or even Molly seeing her children all dead. I 
> suspect the latter is actually the case.

Carol:
Or they needed a deus ex machina to rescue H/H from the centaurs just
as in the book. But, yes, without dragons or hippogriffs and with only
a new house-elf for CGI effects, I suspect they wanted to keep Grawp
in. Maybe someday, after the books have become classics, we'll get a
more faithful remake. Can't imagine anyone else as Snape, though.

> 
> Julie, still deterimined to enjoy the movies for what they are
> and as a completely separate entity from the books.
>
Carol:
Yes. That's a lesson I've had to learn the hard way, with everything
from "Pride and Prejudice" to LOTR and the HP films. They're too
different media, and not only will your favorite scenes be cut and
uncanonical ones added, lines will be given to the wrong people and
even the retained scenes will be altered. Different audience,
different expectations, different techniques. None of which keeps me
from hoping that the scenes and lines that are retained will be at
least recognizable.

But, based on the trailer, it's going to be a great ride. Too bad
Umbridge looks insufficiently toadlike. I think I'll like Natalia
Tenya as Tonks, though, and Helena-Bonham Carter should make a
wonderfully sadistic, melodramatic, over-the-top Bellatrix.

Carol, hoping that someone will force Michael Gambon to read at least
one HP book so he can understand Dumbledore better (even if he's stuck
with that stupid grey robe)




From Aixoise at snet.net  Wed Mar 28 14:22:03 2007
From: Aixoise at snet.net (Stacey Nunes-Ranchy)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:22:03 -0400
Subject: Order of the Phoenix Rating?
Message-ID: <015701c77144$751da3a0$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>

Anyone know if it's received a rating or when they might rate it?  I'm going
to be in WDW Florida during the release (yes, I know it's hot and we're
crazy but it was a scheduling thing) and I'm trying to decide whether my
obsessed 7 yo should come along.  She's seen all the others with nary a
nightmare/problem but I'm thinking if the rating is stricter than PG, she'll
have to wait until we own it (and own it we will!).

 

Going back to contemplating the book covers,

Stacey



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From Aixoise at snet.net  Wed Mar 28 15:10:51 2007
From: Aixoise at snet.net (Stacey Nunes-Ranchy)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:10:51 -0400
Subject: Emma Watson nominated as "child star worth watching"
Message-ID: <018c01c7714b$465a08e0$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>

The MSN Front page had a story about child stars worth watching and since
there was a pic of Emma I had to check it out.  Here's what they say about
her:

 

<snip> Although  <http://movies.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=164788> Daniel
Radcliffe is enjoying the spotlight these days for his stage work in the
racy play "Equus," the real emerging star of the "
<http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=547474> Harry Potter" franchise
is the lovely Emma Watson, whose performance as Hermione Granger is head and
shoulders above Radcliffe's. And even though
<http://movies.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=170012> Rupert Grint is adorable
as Ron Weasley, it's clear both he and Radcliffe are still mugging a bit for
the cameras. You can get away with this as a child actor, but it doesn't
translate much beyond puberty. Watson has been more than booked with the
Harry Potter roles, but she'll surely have other offers once the series
wraps (and she'd better stick with the Potter movies, or they will be
forever marred by her absence). <snip>

 

Link to the whole article:
http://movies.msn.com/movies/PMG/childstars?GT1=7701

 

Stacey (who's reserving her thoughts about Emma's acting since getting
barked at before by others on the forum, hee hee)



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From artsylynda at aol.com  Thu Mar 29 14:01:24 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:01:24 EDT
Subject: Emma Watson nominated as "child star worth watching"
Message-ID: <c12.13be5727.333d20b4@aol.com>

Yeah, but Dan's being nominated as a "National Treasure" in The  Telegraph 
newspaper, LOL!   _http://tinyurl.com/287gcn_ (http://tinyurl.com/287gcn) 

Here's the quote about him:
 
>>Daniel Radcliffe - He could have stayed Harry Potter but  his brave leap 
into theatre has gained him great reviews and his deference to  his senior 
co-stars, shows him to be a well-brought up little  treasure.<<
 
David Tennant, the current "Dr. Who" and "Barty Crouch Jr." in GoF,  was also 
nominated.
 
Completely off-topic - Isn't it fun (NOT!) how Yahoo is making  multiple 
posts of single postings these days?  Argh. . .
 
Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Mar 29 16:32:41 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:32:41 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Photo of Neville from OoP film
In-Reply-To: <eubrjn+2qra@eGroups.com>
References: <eubrjn+2qra@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b9f522a0260492cad52c45a6a85e8713@verizon.net>

Neville looks a bit like Dudley now, doesn't he?
I've just started reading OotP again. Didn't want to read it too, too  
close to film release date so I won't be totally disappointed by the  
omissions. I'm not reading any spoiler/reviews! :-)
Can't wait for this film!!! And to see the Marauders and young Snape!!!  
That's going to be awesome.
Where did Harry get the blood/cut on his head in these pix? Can't  
remember him getting injured, though he always does in all the HP  
films, poor kid!
Valerie

On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:34 PM, justcarol67 wrote:

> I just ran across the photo of Neville from the OoP film. Looks like
>  they've kept the Mimbulus Mimbletonia, in which case we may get to see
>  Harry and friends covered in stink sap on the Hogwarts Express (though
>  I don't recall any references to that scene in the reviews):
>
> http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/gallery/displayimage.php? 
> album=184&pos=11
>
>  Carol, noting that the site has lots of other stills from the film,
>  most of which you've probably seen, and of the actors and actresses
>  playing the new characters


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From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Thu Mar 29 16:40:49 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:40:49 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Order of the Phoenix Rating?
In-Reply-To: <015701c77144$751da3a0$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>
References: <015701c77144$751da3a0$66fea8c0@outlooksoft.com>
Message-ID: <23b1a8917760f7f2becb83e659344c81@verizon.net>

Don' know if this has been responded to yet, (as I am avoiding the 
'Omitted OotP e-mails!), but earlier on someone had seen the advanced 
preview of the film and said it was PG. This surprised me, as I assumed 
all the films would be PG-13 from now on, as they continue to get 
darker.
Valerie

On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Stacey Nunes-Ranchy wrote:

> Anyone know if it's received a rating or when they might rate it? I'm 
> going
>  to be in WDW Florida during the release (yes, I know it's hot and 
> we're
>  crazy but it was a scheduling thing) and I'm trying to decide whether 
> my
>  obsessed 7 yo should come along. She's seen all the others with nary a
>  nightmare/problem but I'm thinking if the rating is stricter than PG, 
> she'll
>  have to wait until we own it (and own it we will!).
>
>  Going back to contemplating the book covers,
>
>  Stacey


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From heidi at heidi8.com  Thu Mar 29 21:35:09 2007
From: heidi at heidi8.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:35:09 -0400
Subject: Images from tomorrow's Entertainment Weekly
References: <1175203964.32F8D502@fc9.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <1175204111.31923824@fc6.dngr.org>

Our inbox at fictionalley.org was just flooded with images from 
tomorrow's entertainment weekly thanks to our friends at WB - the url 
for one is below - it[ Dan as Harry -  and the rest will be up soon, so 
more urls to come!">

  It's at http://famedia.dreamhosters.com/ootp/images/HP5-SP-2623r.jpg

Heidi

Http://www.fictionalley.org
Creativity is Magic!



From valerie.flowe at verizon.net  Fri Mar 30 05:03:31 2007
From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:03:31 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Images from tomorrow's Entertainment Weekly
In-Reply-To: <1175204111.31923824@fc6.dngr.org>
References: <1175203964.32F8D502@fc9.dngr.org>
 <1175204111.31923824@fc6.dngr.org>
Message-ID: <25b3853f97bc8165bc28a61832f6f355@verizon.net>

So exciting!!!
But why oh why do they have to make Harry look like such a geek in this 
movie!?! I mean, really! His short hair looks fab in the Equus promo 
shots; why is it all plastered down in this movie? Grrrrrr....
Isn't the pic of Lucius fantastic?! How do they make his hair look so 
real, when Draco's looks like a wig, I wonder?
Love Sirius's prison tatts!
And ya gotta love Luna's outfit! Boy they look like they've been 
through the wringer at the MOM, don't they?!
C'mon July!!!
Valerie

On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Heidi Tandy wrote:

> Our inbox at fictionalley.org was just flooded with images from
>  tomorrow's entertainment weekly thanks to our friends at WB - the url
>  for one is below - it[ Dan as Harry - and the rest will be up soon, so
>  more urls to come!">
>
>  It's at http://famedia.dreamhosters.com/ootp/images/HP5-SP-2623r.jpg
>
>  Heidi


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From artsylynda at aol.com  Fri Mar 30 22:47:29 2007
From: artsylynda at aol.com (artsylynda at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:47:29 EDT
Subject: Images from tomorrow's Entertainment Weekly
Message-ID: <c53.12e1ab1d.333eed81@aol.com>

I went to Borders today looking for Entertainment Weekly (I forgot  it would 
come out on Saturday) and found two other magazines with Potter  articles.  
SciFi magazine shows the cast of "Heroes" on the cover and a  small pic of Harry 
in the top margin.  They have a one page article and a  full page of photos 
(all of which we've already seen) starting on page 28.   Movie Magic Life Story 
is a HUGE (and expensive) magazine that has the cover  FILLED with Potter 
images and a bunch of articles as well.  I bought both  of those since I couldn't 
get EW, LOL!  I've just started reading the SciFi  article and it's really 
good so far.  

Lynda AKA "Abraxan"

My blog: _www.abraxan.blogspot.com_ (http://www.abraxan.blogspot.com/)   
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