[HPFGU-Movie] Mr. Crouch's death (Was: Getting it right in the films)

Missy Gallant missygallant2000 at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 23 22:46:56 UTC 2007


See I came at it completely differently.  I just
thought the director was basically clueless.  He
thought it was "cool" for Harry's scar to hurt when
there was danger around.  Any danger- not just Voldy
danger.  So, he had Daniel grab his head.

I think he also has a "thing" for dragons.  Perhaps a
large collection of Pewter ones sitting on shelves in
his bedroom. Which is why were we subjected to such a
ridiculously long dragon scene.  He didn't read the
book, or he'd know that since there was a penalty for
damaging the eggs, killing the mama would be an even
larger penalty and there's just no way Harry would
score well in that competition.  He also removed ALL
of the cool background magic- like the moving
pictures, or even in POA the stuff in the Leaky
Cauldron was super cool.  But this movie had NONE of
that.  Just a stupid long Dragon scene.

And the tongue thing- I never caught that Moody did it
too.  I just thought that the stupid director was
trying to get us to see the snake connection- you know
because us publics are stupid and need stuff pointed
out to us. 
--- Carol <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Valerie wrote:
> > OK, if Fake!Moody killed his dad, then why does
> Harry grab his
> forehead right before he sees dead Crouch Sr? I
> thought that meant
> that Voldemort had just killed Crouch moments before
> and was still in
> the> vicinity. Hence the forehead clutching???
> > 
> Carol:
> 
> I don't know. I guess I just assumed that Barty Jr.
> (who had a motive)
> killed his father as he did in the book. But also,
> Voldemort is still
> in fetal form at this moment (in both film and
> book), so he couldn't
> have just come by and killed Crouch Sr., even if he
> had a motive. I
> guess the forehead clutching indicates Harry's
> subconscious
> realization (or some sort of sixth sense in his
> scar) that
> Crouch!Moody is a Death Eater (or just that
> something wicked this way
> comes)? 
> 
> In the book, Voldemort had a motive for wanting
> Crouch Sr. dead--he
> was about to reveal the kidnap/murder plot to DD
> (fighting the
> Imperius Curse to do it). But in the film, Crouch
> Sr. knows nothing
> about the plot or the disguise, so Voldie has no
> reason to want him
> dead, and no way to do it himself even if he did. So
> I still think it
> was his wicked son (scaring him first with the
> tongue-twitching), but
> exactly what's going on is anything but clear.
> 
> Just one more problem of many with the film.
> 
> Carol, thinking that if it puzzles people who've
> read the books, it
> must *really* puzzle those who haven't
> 
> 



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