[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Regulus in HBP????
Missy Gallant
missygallant2000 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 17 21:15:02 UTC 2008
They really have a LOT of story to make up. They need
to explain WHY Harry has to go to the Dursleys. They
need to explain why Kreacher. They need to explain
the locket, the horcruxes. So, they're going to HAVE
to add stuff into the movies at some point.
--- Valerie Flowe <valerie.flowe at verizon.net> wrote:
> Carol,
> Thanks for clarifying and rectifying some of my
> earlier points.
> - I guess I never liked Slughorn because he was such
> a brown-noser and
> a name-dropper (IMO). So I assumed he was hiding
> some clandestine past.
> - I know I saw a photo or illustration of the full
> Black tapestry (was
> it on a DVD extra???) I'll search for it.
> - I hope they do start HBP with the Dursleys and the
> wine. That was
> funny and I liked that the movies (except Goblet)
> always started
> end-of-summer at the Dursleys.
> - The HP Lexicon...hmmm...we'll have to see what the
> results are on
> that case! I, for one, don't quite get the
> controversy. There have been
> plenty of HP companion books that others have
> profited from. How is the
> Lexicon different? I think JKR is just bummed out
> that someone is
> trying to beat her to her HP Encyclopedia. Though
> certainly HP fans
> would be much more likely to buy one of HER books on
> her stories,
> rather than a third party.
> Valerie
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:17 PM, Carol wrote:
>
> > Carol earlier:
> > > >Someone else asked about Regulus's appearance
> in the books. He's
> > described as having the same dark hair and
> slightly expression as the
> > teenage Sirius but smaller and slighter and not
> quite as handsome. (He
> > played Seeker, a fact that Harry notices but no
> one else pays any
> > attention to.)
> > > >Carol, who prefers Regulus to Sirius, handsome
> or not, and thinks
> > that his death is one of the saddest and most
> horrifying parts of DH
> >
> > Carol again:
> >
> > Oops. "Slightly expression" should be "slightly
> haughty expression."
> > The Black arrogance, also seen in Bellatrix and
> Narcissa, you know.
> >
> > Valerie responded:
> > > Awww...that's the nicest thing anyone's ever
> said about Regulus!
> >
> > Carol:
> > You're welcome. I like Regulus a lot and was glad
> to find another
> > "good Slytherin" besides Snape and Slughorn. I
> hope they keep
> > Kreacher's rallying cry and that his reference to
> "my master, champion
> > of House-elves" clearly refers to Regulus and not
> Harry. (Too bad
> > Phineas Nigellus probably didn't know that his
> great-great-great
> > grandson "played his part.")
> >
> > Valerie:
> > <snip>
> > > Yeah, Slughorn never mentioned Regulus at all
> in the books, right?
> >
> > Carol:
> > I was sure I said in an earlier post that
> Slughorn *did* mention
> > Regulus (he would have liked to collect the
> brothers as "a set," as if
> > they were salt and pepper shakers or a pair of
> matched pillowcases).
> >
> > Here's the exact quote (from the "Horace
> Slughorn" chapter of HBP):
> >
> > "The whole Black family had been in my House, but
> Sirius ended up in
> > gryffindor! Shame--he was a talented boy. I got
> his brother, Regulus,
> > when he came along, but I'd have liked the set"
> (HBP Am. ed. 70).
> >
> > That's the passage I expect the filmmkers will
> use, possibly expanding
> > on it a bit to point out Regulus's picture.
> Slughorn certainly doesn't
> > know that Regulus became a DE or he wouldn't have
> mentioned him.
> >
> > Valerie:
> >
> > > But was Slughorn a Deatheater? Or did he just
> consort with those
> > sordid types?
> >
> > Carol:
> > the only indication that Slughorn was a DE is his
> seeming ability to
> > cast a Dark Mark (DD mentions that detail as
> giving away the fact that
> > Slughorn hadn't really been attacked by DEs).
> However, since he's been
> > running from the DEs for a whole year (they want
> to recruit him, and
> > probably kill him if he doesn't join up), and
> since he rejects Theo
> > Nott as a member of the Slug Club after finding
> out that his father is
> > one of the DEs arrested for breaking into the
> MoM, I don't think that
> > Horace either is or was a DE. Nor does he
> "consort with those sordid
> > types." He's charmed by the young Tom Riddle just
> like everyone else
> > except Dumbledore, and he's shocked that Snape,
> whom he sees,
> > apparently, as one of his brilliant protegees,
> has (apparently)
> > murdered Dumbledore in HBP: ("I taught him! I
> thought I knew him!")
> > Slughorn consorts with students that he thinks
> will be successful,
> > including the Muggle-born Dirk Cresswell, who
> becomes head of the
> > Goblin Liaison Department, and who will be
> grateful for his backing
> > and do him favors in return, but there's no
> indication that he likes
> > "sordid" types. (See the collection of photos on
> his piano in "Horace
> > Slughorn" and the people he recruits for the Slug
> Club, most of whom
> > have famous or influential relatives, such as the
> Ravenclaw Marcus
> > Belby, whose uncle Damocles invented Wolfsbane
> Potion. When he finds
> > out that Marcus's father isn't on good terms with
> Damocles, Slughorn
> > drops Marcus like a hot potato.)
> >
> > Valerie:
> > > I'm wondering if Regulus WAS on the tapestry
> and just ended up on
> > the cutting room floor?
> >
> > Carol:
> > In the film, you mean? I have no idea; I'll need
> to watch that scene
> > again. Personally, I think that if Steve Kloves
> rather than Michael
> > Goldenberg had written the script for OoP, he'd
> have figured out that
> > RAB was Regulus and kept both him and the locket
> in, with more of
> > Kreacher than just him muttering to the curtained
> portrait of Mrs.
> > Black (moviegoers who hadn't read the book must
> have wondered what
> > *that* was about).
> >
> > Valerie:
> > I'm guessing yes, considering that they had
> Tonk's family and
> > > other obscure people on there. That was an
> amazing prop! <snip>
> >
> > Carol:
> > Probably they used the Lexicon (do I dare mention
> that site now?) as a
> > source for the names to put on it. Does anyone
> have a still of the
> > tapestry scene that actually shows the names and
> dates, so we could
> > compare them?
> >
> > Valerie:
> > > How in the world are they going to backtrack
> the locket in there?
> > Maybe Dumbledore will be with Harry at Grimmauld
> Place, telling Harry
> > Sirius has left it all to him, including grumpy
> ole Kreacher, (who, of
> > course, the film neglected to mention was
> responsible for the lie that
> > almost gets Harry killed by V and ultimately gets
> Sirius killed). Can
> > you imagine how much Harry would despise him!?!
> >
> > Carol:
>
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