Tolerance and the Last Movie

[Steve]

---  "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Pardon me while I vent a bit. In the previous HP movie, I
> > was > tolerant.
> 
> 
> Not just tolerant, Steve, you were very forgiving :-). I 
> wish I could!
> 
> > bboyminn/steve 
> > From what I am hearing, though I will reserve judgment, 
> > there are aspects of the story that are being lost that 
> > are vital to telling the story as it needs to be told.
> 
> zanooda:
> 
> I'm not sure I know what you mean. How do you know that 
> parts of the story will be lost? And what parts? The 
> Gaunts? Hepzibah Smith? I'm just curious, because we know
> very little at the moment about HBP and almost nothing 
> about DH movies. Did you hear something that I didn't? 
> The last thing I heard about HBP was that they hired some 
> girl to play Pansy, and this is it :-).
> 
> 
> zanooda
>

bboyminn:

It not so much that I know they are messing up one thing
or another, but certain casting decisions are implying
certain aspects of the story are being lost. Again, I
have to reserve judgement because vague casting 
implications aren't enough to tell me anything.

But on general principle I stand by what I said, they can
no longer treat these as independent movie with no 
connection to each other, which is exactly how they
treated the first 4 films. In a sense, they had to do that
because they didn't know where the story was going, but
since the publication of the final book, what is important
and what is not, has become clear. 

Yes, many enjoyable secondary elements and plot lines 
have to and will be lost, I accept that. But there are
also Key Critical elements and plotlines that must be
there for the story to make sense as a whole. What
happens in this next movie has meaning relative to the
final movie. If the haven't sufficiently established
key plot elements, then I don't see how they can make
those up in the final movie. I mean they can't spend
the first hour of the last movie undoing mistakes and
misjudgements they made in the previous moive, there 
simply isn't going to be enough time. 

One of the things that makes the Lord of the Rings trilogy
of movie great is that they were created with a single
overriding vision of the whole story. They had to make
compromises, but they still told the story that was there.

They need to do that for the 6th and 7th Potter movies.
It's time to have a single overriding vision of what the
story is and where it is going, and how it needs to get 
there.

Like I said, to some extent, there is no risk to the studios.
There are enough Harry Potter fans that the movies will 
certainly make their money back plus a nice profit. But
that is no excuse to be lazy. That is no excuse to just
drift through it, then take the money and run. 

They have an opportunity to make HP an all time classic, but
only if they stay true to the story. There were certain 
compromises in the previous movies that I could and do
critisize, but I forgave them (to a degree) because without
and ending they didn't know what was important and what
was not. But that excuse isn't there anymore. We know the
story, we know what is important, we know the factors that
give meaning and depth to the story. I only hope that the
movie makers are equally aware, other wise the movies are
nothing but and excuse for the actors to run around play 
their characters. Playing characters is not enough. To be
satisfying and to truly be successful on a grand scale,
the movies need to tell the core story as it exists in
the books, otherwise, what's the point?

Just ranting.

Steve/bboyminn