[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Characters acting OOC/Was:Rupert Grint

[Nightbreed]

Umbrige wasn't just interviewing the people in DA, she was interviewing
anyone she thought connected. It's possible that Cho was just the first
member of the DA. 

 

I also assumed Snape to by lying when she wanted the veritaserum for Harry
and he said she'd used it all. 

 

As for Ginny, first of all, the trio fights too much by the last book. In
HBP it annoys me that they never believe Harry about Draco because they have
all been on the same page before, especially in the first book regarding
Snape. In the Last I find it irritating that Ron leaves and "the trio" as
you put it is gone anyway for large chunk. Ginny being one year younger
hardly makes her underage (especially if you buy into the girls mature
faster than boys theory.)

 

My issue is just this, by the end of the books as a reader I didn't feel,
grasp, understand Ginny and Harry having a bond of love to last a lifetime,
or even much of a friendship beyond the casual. What I hope for the film is
that Ginny is given more than she had in the book so that you actually see
them together and buy the relationship. Rowling mostly glossed over it (they
spent long afternoons together., blah, blah, blah) she was all tell and no
show. So an expanded part for Ginny in the book would simply mean some
genuine moments that cement love between her and Harry.

 

md

From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Carol
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:14 PM
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Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Characters acting OOC/Was:Rupert Grint

 

Nightbreed wrote:
>
> At least with Cho, she was given the Viratiserum, so she wasn't a
traitor in the film she could not have possibly of not told the truth.
<snip> 

Carol:
Unfortunately, that small plot alteration requires Snape to provide
Umbridge with real Veritaserum for use on the whole DA, which
eliminates his subversive move in providing her with fake Veritaserum
and leaves viewers to wonder why no one else told the truth under the
influence of the Veritaserum (and why Cho was stupid enough to drink
anything that Umbridge served). I didn't like that plot twist at all.
The only good thing that it accomplished was removing Hermione's hex
and the SNEAK pustules (another of Hermione's less than stellar
moments that might dilute the viewers' sympathy for her. (I mean, of
course, viewers who haven't read the books.)

nightbreed wrote: 
<snip> To not ever really make Ginny come alive on the page was the
single, great flaw I think in the series, for her to be so important
to Harry yet never really be a character we can see and know is a huge
misstep.

Carol responds:
For me, Book!Ginny's best moment comes early in CoS when she stands up
to Draco in Flourish and Blotts. (At least that moment gets into the
film.) And I suppose that the pickled toad poem, dreadful as it is,
does show her personality (and her crush on Harry in case we didn't
already know about it). I didn't like her at all in OoP (lying to her
mother about Crookshanks playing with the dungbombs) although she did
have one good moment when she confronted Harry, telling him that *she*
knew what it was like to be possessed and that he should ask her. I
didn't like her hexing Zacharias Smith; she reminded me of James
Potter. (Oh, great. James Jr. has that obnoxious, "mischievous" streak
coming from both sides.) I didn't like her in HBP, either. I saw no
reason whatever for her supposed popularity. Luna said that Ginny was
nice, but the reader never saw it. She was still hexing Zacharias
Smith, and she also referred to Sectumsempra as "something good" to
use on Draco. (Where is your mind, Ginny? That spell nearly made Harry
an accidental killer and it could have gotten him expelled, or worse,
sent to Azkaban. And then Harry gets, in effect, rewarded or at least
recompensed for a much-deserved detention with Snape by a Gryffindor
victory, courtesy of Seeker!Ginny, and a prologned kiss. Blecch!) IMO,
she's a character, all right, just not the ideal mate for Harry that
JKR thinks she is. (If her older daughter turns out to be "spunky"
like Ginny, JKR will find out that those traits aren't quite so
wonderful as she thinks they are.)

nightbreed wrote:
I really wanted her to tell Mrs. Weasley in no uncertain terms that
she loved Harry and was leaving with he, Ron and Hermione in the last
book.

Carol responds:
And I couldn't be happier that she was underage and had to stay home.
Her presence would distract Harry, she and Ron (or she and Hermione)
would always be bickering, and the dynamics of the Trio would be
wholly spoiled. (One of Ron's concerns when the locket is tormenting
him is the safety of his family. Having Ginny with him would ruin
that; instead of not knowing what was going on and fearing the worst,
he'd constantly feel the responsibility of protecting her and she'd be
constantly arguing that she was old enough to do whatever they were
doing. Three's company; four's a crowd.

Getting back to the movies (I almost forgot which list I was posting
to!), it looks as if Ginny will have a larger part in this film and
will be established as Harry's love interest early on. One good thing:
the moviemakers left out Quidditch from OoP, so she'll have no motive
for hexing Zacharias Smith in HBP. (I suppose that she'll get into the
Slug Club by hexing a Slytherin.)

Carol, glad that Ginny had her own friends at Hogwarts, leaving the
Trio largely to themselves when they weren't at the Burrow or 12 GP

 



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