Ginny - Not

Miles d2dmiles at yahoo.de
Tue Aug 4 17:56:05 UTC 2009


>> Kemper now:
>> That scene bothered me because of the implied eroticism of it.
>> Okay, 'eroticism' may be too strong a word.  There's some
>> flirtation/sensuality with Ginny feeding Harry, and that's cool.
>> But the scene with the shoestring is awkward/icky/weird to watch.
>> The image of a girl, vulnerable in a bathrobe, going down to(on)
>> Harry's string, looking up at Harry when she's done... it's just
>> odd.
> marion:
> I'm glad someone else said something about this.  I don't think it's
> *implied* eroticism.  I think it's blatant!  I had completely
> forgotten that scene since I can't stand Book!Ginny and tend to just
> ignore all Harry Ginny shipping, but my jaw dropped when she did that
> in the movie.  And I wasn't the only one - there were snorts and
> giggles and even "ewwwww" sounds from all sides.

Miles
I felt the same sexual tension - and I think it's well done and perfectly 
right to do it in the film.

I think it was much more difficult for Rowling to imply sexuality in writing 
HBP without being explicit. My first read of lines like 'they spent many 
happy hours alone at the lake' implied offpage "sexual activities" of what 
kind ever, and I still read it that way - without anything being certain. 
And I can understand Rowling that she didn't describe much of Harry's and 
Ginny's time together, avoiding being too clear what they did and what not. 
The chest monster didn't roar after they were together, right?

I think that it wouldn't be very realistic to show a 16yo pair that is not 
very aware of sexual possibilities. Whether they "did it" (Ron's words) or 
not - I'm happy we do not know. But in the film we see Ginny taking action 
to win Harry over, and what works better on 16yo boys than sex, or better: 
the promise of sex?

Some days ago someone wrote about Ginny as being "innocent". I didn't answer 
then, but I think that's wrong. Ginny might be "innocent" in the technical 
meaning of "virginal" (we don't know), but neither in the books nor in the 
film we have any reasons to believe that she is not very aware of her own 
sexuality and her effect on boys.

> marion:
> I think maybe it was also supposed to
> be funny, but the giggles in the theater were giggles of discomfort
> and embarrassment.

Miles
But that does not make it a bad scene. 






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