Ginny - Not

[Richard Shepard]

> >> Kemper now:
> >> That scene bothered me because of the implied eroticism of it.
> >> Okay, 'eroticism' may be too strong a word.  There's some
> >> flirtation/sensuality with Ginny feeding Harry, and that's cool.
> >> But the scene with the shoestring is awkward/icky/weird to watch.
> >> The image of a girl, vulnerable in a bathrobe, going down to(on)
> >> Harry's string, looking up at Harry when she's done... it's just
> >> odd.
> >
> > marion:
> > I'm glad someone else said something about this.  I don't think it's
> > *implied* eroticism.  I think it's blatant!  I had completely
> > forgotten that scene since I can't stand Book!Ginny and tend to just
> > ignore all Harry Ginny shipping, but my jaw dropped when she did that
> > in the movie.  And I wasn't the only one - there were snorts and
> > giggles and even "ewwwww" sounds from all sides.
> 
> Miles
> I felt the same sexual tension - and I think it's well done and perfectly 
> right to do it in the film.
> 

Richard:

I liked the way they handled the Harry/Ginny relationship and the Ron/Hermione relationship in the HBP movie.  The shoelace scene might have been done better a different way, but overall I think the movie plays out better than the book.


> I think it was much more difficult for Rowling to imply sexuality in writing 
> HBP without being explicit. My first read of lines like 'they spent many 
> happy hours alone at the lake' implied offpage "sexual activities" of what 
> kind ever, and I still read it that way - without anything being certain. 
> And I can understand Rowling that she didn't describe much of Harry's and 
> Ginny's time together, avoiding being too clear what they did and what not. 
> The chest monster didn't roar after they were together, right?
> 


Richard:

I think Ginny and Harry were just hanging out and snogging during those weeks at school.  Considering Harry's own innocence in the romance department, I suspect he was very happy just to be able to hold her hand :)  

I think the beginning of DH confirms my take on the level of intensity their relationship was at before Dumbeldore's funeral.  Ginny is going to give Harry something special for his birthday, something to remember her by even if he runs into velas on his journeys.  And what she gives him is an amazing, hold-on-tight-and-hope-you-don't-pass-out kiss.  Now it is possible she intended to go farther and her gift was going to be even more intimate, but Ron burst into the room.  Considering that it was morning and the house was full of people, I do not really believe Ginny planned to do anything more than to give Harry an earth shattering kiss.  Which implies that they had never done anything more than that before, and she was probably holding back in their previous makeout session as well.  


> But in the film we see Ginny taking action to win Harry over, and what works better on 16yo boys than sex, or better: the promise of sex?
> 
> Some days ago someone wrote about Ginny as being "innocent". I didn't answer then, but I think that's wrong. Ginny might be "innocent" in the technical meaning of "virginal" (we don't know), but neither in the books nor in the film we have any reasons to believe that she is not very aware of her own sexuality and her effect on boys.
> 


Richard:

Very good points.  I defintely think both Ginny and Harry are still pretty inexperienced throughout the books/movies.  But Ginny has been out there playing the field a little and knows that she is attractive and knows how to flirt.