Finally saw it! - Now Just the Ring.
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk
Thu Aug 13 21:25:08 UTC 2009
>From previous posts:
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md:
Here's what I don't recall from DH, if it was explained or not, are
Voldy and Harry cousins if each are decedents of the three brothers
in the Hallows story?
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Steve/bboyminn
Yes, technically they are related, but the geneological distance
between them is go great and the common genetics so very thin,
that beyond it being a novelty, I don't think it carries any
weight.
md:
I was speaking to the magical connection in this *fantasy* world.
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Dave:
Plus we have NO evidence that Tom is directly descended from
any of the Three Brothers, the way Harry is from Ignotus. The
Gaunts may be descended from another member of the Peverell
family, which would make Harry and Tom'skinship even more distant.
md:
Applying the logic that the author went through all the effort to put
these connections into the book, since we are not studying real
history we can presume things that might seem far-fetched in
reality, but make perfect sense in an imagined world to say the
author says A then B so it equals C.
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Geoff:
Yes, but that's ducking the issue of why you suggest that familial
relationships in a magical situation should be different to those in
a non-magical one.
Being a witch or wizard doesn't alter genealogical links.
md:
I'm not ducking anything, I've absolutely explained my comments,
what'scurious is why you seem so determined to argue it further
when there's nothing new being added. You've answered your own
question "a magical situation should be different to those in a non-
magical one" I think I've made it clear that I believe adding the
"magic" into the mix could allow a writer to make those distant
connections that might not be possible in a non-magical world.
Yes, I would say it's a perfectly logical leap to say that even the most
distant of relatives in a magical world could feel the effects of magic
from a common ancestral object.
Now that I've explained that for the umpteenth time, could we let it
go now?
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Geoff:
I've listed what I think are all your responses where the question of
genealogy has arisen referring to the possibility of a link between
Harry and Voldemort.
To begin with, I think that "umpteen" is a bit of an exaggeration for
four. In the non-magical world, connections over long periods of
time and distance exist anyway. Look at some of the royal families.
For example, the British Royal Family has connections leading back
over a thousand years and the spread of descendants from Queen
Victoria is quite mind-boggling.
Your "absolute explanation" of your comments is very vague, which is
why I, and some other contributors, have asked for more details, which
is hardly "being determined to argue it further", and your rather brusque
responses in some cases hardly help to clarify your thinking.
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