Finally saw it! - Now Just the Ring.

Geoff Bannister gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk
Thu Aug 13 21:25:08 UTC 2009


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md:
Here's what I don't recall from DH, if it was explained or not, are 
Voldy and Harry cousins if each are decedents of the three brothers 
in the Hallows story?
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Steve/bboyminn
Yes, technically they are related, but the geneological distance
between them is go great and the common genetics so very thin,
that beyond it being a novelty, I don't think it carries any
weight.

md:
I was speaking to the magical connection in this *fantasy* world.
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Dave:
Plus we have NO evidence that Tom is directly descended from 
any of the Three Brothers, the way Harry is from Ignotus. The 
Gaunts may be descended from another member of the Peverell 
family, which would make Harry and Tom'skinship even more distant.

md:
Applying the logic that the author went through all the effort to put 
these connections into the book, since we are not studying real 
history we can presume things that might seem far-fetched in 
reality, but make perfect sense in an imagined world to say the  
author says A then B so it equals C.
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Geoff:
Yes, but that's ducking the issue of why you suggest that familial
relationships in a magical situation should be different to those in
a non-magical one.

Being a witch or wizard doesn't alter genealogical links.

md:
I'm not ducking anything, I've absolutely explained my comments, 
what'scurious is why you seem so determined to argue it further 
when there's nothing new being added. You've answered your own 
question "a magical situation should be different to those in a non-
magical one" I think I've  made it clear that I believe adding the 
"magic" into the mix could allow a  writer to make those distant  
connections that might not be possible in a non-magical world. 
Yes, I would say it's a perfectly logical leap to say that even the most 
distant of relatives in a magical world could feel the effects of magic 
from a common ancestral object.

Now that I've explained that for the umpteenth time, could we let it 
go now?
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Geoff:
I've listed what I think are all your responses where the question of 
genealogy has arisen referring to the possibility of a link between 
Harry and Voldemort.

To begin with, I think that "umpteen" is a bit of an exaggeration for 
four. In the non-magical world, connections over long periods of 
time and distance exist anyway. Look at some of the royal families. 
For example, the British Royal Family has connections leading back 
over a thousand years and the spread of descendants from Queen 
Victoria is quite mind-boggling.

Your "absolute explanation" of your comments is very vague, which is 
why I, and some other contributors, have asked for more details, which 
is hardly "being determined to argue it further", and your rather brusque 
responses in some cases hardly help to clarify your thinking.






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