Fictional plot holes.
Carol
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Wed Jul 29 18:49:15 UTC 2009
Eggplant wrote:
Percy hasn't even been mentioned much less seen in the last 2 films.
Carol responds:
They did leave him out of GoF, IIRC, because they wanted to simplify the Barty Crouch plot. They didn't have Mr. Crouch Imperio'd or (supposedly) prowling around Snape's office, for example, so there was no need to bring in Percy to take his place at the Yule Ball and the Second Task. I don't remember whether he was present as court scribe at Harry's hearing in OoP, but he was definitely present with Fudge, Umbridge, Kingsley Shacklebolt, and the Auror who keeps getting Confunded in DH (his name escapes me) in the scene where Dumbledore tells them he's not planning to "go quietly" and escapes by summoning Fawkes. (He wouldn't be in the HBP film since they've also left out Scrimgeour, but I see no reason not to bring him back for DH. I know you disagree, but I think the scene with Fred and Percy just before and after Fred dies will leave half the audience in tears.
> Me (you = Eggplant):
> >>By the way, the cliffhanger of Harry and friends being lead away in >>chains to torture and certain death at the Malfoy Manor is the >>break point between part 1 and part 2 of the DH movie.
>
Carol earlier:
> >Are you sure? (Chains?) I read that the filmmakers had decided to >end DH1 with a cliffhanger but no specifics. Do you happen to have
> >a link?
> It was in a magazine interview with David Yates, I read it in a bookshop and didn't buy the magazine. He mentioned it casually as an aside and I think he might have slipped up because I later heard the move company was trying to keep the break point secret.
Carol again:
Thanks. I can't imagine chains--conjured ropes as in the book would be better. But I think they're still keeping the breaking point secret.
Can anyone think of any other cliffhangers? How about Bellatrix hurling that silver knife at Dobby? Or Harry and Ron discovering Luna and Ollivander in the Malfoy's basement? I really can't see breaking it at that early point, though, if they want to keep the focus of the "epic" final film on the battle of Hogwarts.
Another possibility would be leaving them facing the Goblins and the still-chained dragon in Gringotts or having Harry or having them Apparate to Hogsmeade under the Invisibility Cloak only to set off an alarm that alerts the DEs. I like that last possibility. An earlier break, especially when they're captured by Snatchers, leaves too little action for DH1 and too much for DH2. Just my opinion.
Carol, hoping that the article was wrong
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