PoA MOVIE DISCUSSION

[potioncat]

In ---002 Carol wrote:
> Carol responds:

> What's going on with the other guy (a student?) in pajamas and other,
> unrecognizable adults (faculty members who never appear anywhere in the
> books or the film???) after Snape and Dumbledore leave? Why isn't that
> patient still in the hospital wing, which is deserted except for Ron and
> their departing selves when Hermione and Harry return? 

Potioncat:
Were you able to slow that down to get that detail? I tried a couple of times, but haven't really had time to do it justice. I thought I saw Snape in the background. I wondered if they had filmed his hissy-fit or his conversation with Fudge then cut it. But I could never tell. 
 

 
> Cabal (md):
> >  Since Columbus did not address the Dudley clothes early-on it couldn't suddenly be an issue in the third film.

Potioncat:
Harry's clothing is too big and in bad shape when we see him in SS/PS. I don't recall noticing in CoS.
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> Carol responds:
 Where did it come from? Cuaron's imagination, apparently. It has nothing to do with the WW as JKR depicts it--and yet some of those details, including professors in Muggle clothes (Umbridge, anyone?) and Victrolas (McGonagall teaching the Gryffindors how to dance) are continued into later films.

Potioncat:
It's always bothered me that Cuaron changed so much--even the look of Hogwarts and the grounds, as well as the appearance of characters. Yet the next director said that he had to follow in step with the previous movie. I didn't see why he had to follow anyone but JKR. (Not sure where I got that quote...from a web site interview, I'm sure.) 

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> Carol:
 Apparently, Columbus et al. didn't want to follow JKR in having the kids wear only underwear under the robes, or they didn't know what they wore. (Columbus also had the robes indicate the different Houses through insignias. How the first years knew to buy the right robes is not addressed.) 

Potioncat:
In SS/PS the first years are wearing generic Hogwarts uniforms until after they are sorted. At that point the uniforms reflect their house. I thought that was pretty cool. But, I remember having a bad case of movie contamination when I read CoS. I couldn't understand why certain characters couldn't tell which house another one was in. I think it was a scene between Percy and Draco--or someone else when Harry and Ron were Polyjuiced.

 
> Carol earlier:
> <snip>(Can you link me to an article stating JKR's approval of that uncanonical and unnecessary addition to the story? Why not leave Stan and Ernie as they're written? BTW, the shrunken heads seem to me like an intrusion by the director into the scriptwriter's territory.

Potioncat:
I also seem to recall seeing a JKR interview in which she says something positive about the shrunken heads and I think about the toad chorus. I just love the toad chorus and song! So maybe the interview is on the DVD extras.
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> Cabal/md: 
 Either way, I'm certainly not lying, thanks for respecting that if I say I read something I'm not full of BS. <snip>

Potioncat:
Let me just add that it's a long standing tradition here to ask for the source of a quote. Not as a challenge, but to have the chance to read it as well.

Another long standing tradition is to discuss the quote and quibble over what JKR might have really intended to say, whether it was serious or off the cuff or dead wrong or being a team player. So I've made reference to a quote as well---hopiing I don't have to figure out where I saw or read it.



 
> Carol responds:
 (I didn'tn't care for the girly-girl comment about her hair, either--out of character for Hermione and the last thing she should have been thinking about. Again, it's just a matter of taste. You like it. I don't. 
 
Potioncat:
Someone at this site suggested that Hermione was really thinking "Is that what my butt looks like?, but just said 'hair' to hide her real concern. I couldn't tell you who suggested it, but I've never been able to watch that scene without thinking she really means butt. I guess it would be bum, though, wouldn't it?

 
> Cabal/md: 
> > The only thing I took issue with CGI is the werewolf looks nothing like man or beast, but some third bastard offshoot. Don't understand why? In the book they "ran" with him, but in the movie he's not very animal at all.

Potioncat:
Yeah, I kept wondering why Sirius couldn't control the werewolf, and why he doesn't turn into a werewolf at the next moon since he's clearly shown with injuries caused by the werewolf.

Potioncat who hopes she hasn't made too many errors at this late posting, and thanks Carol for quietly replacing a missing "s" because I thought about it hours after posting.