From bgrugin at yahoo.com Tue Feb 2 04:38:34 2010 From: bgrugin at yahoo.com (bgrugin) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:38:34 -0000 Subject: Ginny in HBP movie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Brian wrote: > > Brian: > > I quite liked the way Ginny was treated in the first half of this movie, > > although we didn't see their relationship develop from the start - at > > the start of HBP movie she was already much more affectionate with him > > than she was in OOP. > > I really missed the after match kiss, a real highlight in the book, > > although I can understand that it would have been too similar to Won-Won > > and Lavender. > > But the thing I really didn't like about the way Ginny was treated was - > > after the kiss - nothing. She doesn't appear at all. What gives? > > Harry never seems to think about her again. > > Geoff: > You are still referring to the HBP film? > > What about the Room of Requirement scene which I, (like many other > members), think really messed up the story line? Or that she cam to > Harry's side while he was by Dumbledore's body? > MusicalBetsy here: At the end of the movie, Hermione comments on how Ron doesn't have a problem with Harry and Ginny being together. In fact, it's implied that they are STILL together, which in the book, he would have already broken up with Ginny. Obviously, Ginny is going to be more important in the 7th and 8th movies than she was in the book - she has to be, because she hid the book! There must already have been a plan in place to have more of Ginny in the last few movies, so they had her do something that only SHE could help with in the last movie...meaning Harry couldn't break up with her. But I agree with many others...it's just wrong. I too enjoyed Ginny in this movie, but I also missed the climatic kiss from the book, and I HATE it when they mess with the storyline!! MusicalBetsy, who really would prefer to keep the movie and book lists separate. Right now, it's so easy to see if there's any new posts about movies on the movie list. That would be much harder if the two lists merged. From coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 2 12:34:10 2010 From: coolbeans3131 at yahoo.com (JoannB) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:34:10 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Discussion about possible changes to the HPfGU groups In-Reply-To: <4B5DA30B.5070703@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: I agree. I'd like to keep the movie list separate. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, Brian wrote: > > I don't really mind if movies are merged with main OR kept separate, but > what harm does it do having a group with few posts right now? > We are between movies, so of course the group will be slow until the > next one comes out, that's only natural. > > Brian > From no.limberger at gmail.com Wed Feb 10 15:37:57 2010 From: no.limberger at gmail.com (No Limberger) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:37:57 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: ADMIN: Discussion about possible changes to the HPfGU groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7ef72f91002100737m21ad891eg9c8732f1a07bc636@mail.gmail.com> >Carol wrote: >I've already responded on the Admin list, but I want to point out to members of the >Movie group that the group in most danger of being closed down and merged with ' >the Main group is this one. If you want to keep this group alive and/or you agree >with me that film and book discussions should remain separate, please do two things. >Go to admin (link in the preceding post) and express your views and continue posting >here (about the films themselves). No.Limberger responds: I agree with Carol that the Movie Group should remain separate. As the release dates for DH Parts 1 & 2 draw nearer, there will likely be a lot more activity in this group. -- "Why don't you dance with me, I'm not no limberger!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 15 22:06:07 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:06:07 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Discussion about possible changes to the HPfGU groups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think all the Potter groups should be consolidated into one group and it should have happened years ago, as soon as book 7 was published. The reason is that the main topic before the last book came out was "What will happen next?", obviously that topic is now dead. The second most popular topic was "What did that actually mean?" well now we know, or as much as we're ever going to know, that topic is dead too. So as anyone could have predicted we now suffer from a huge drop-off in posts. We should do everything we can think of to counteract that trend, like encouraging cross fertilization from the movie group, they are after all part of the same Potter phenomena. I mean what is the downside? Do you seriously think we are in danger of being engulfed by a enormous number of Potter related posts? From no.limberger at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 16:22:07 2010 From: no.limberger at gmail.com (No Limberger) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:22:07 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: ADMIN: Discussion about possible changes to the HPfGU groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7ef72f91002230822x2c2c1532g76464413dc9fa94e@mail.gmail.com> >johnclark wrote: >I think all the Potter groups should be consolidated into one group and it should have >happened years ago, as soon as book 7 was published. no.limberger responds: I like being able to find posts more easily. Keeping topics grouped under different Yahoo groups is the only way to do that on Yahoo. Unless the moderators really believe that it's time to consolidate, I'd prefer to see the individual groups maintained. There's no way to predict whether interest may or may not resume, but there will undoubtedly be more interest in the Movie group as DH Part 1 & Part 2 approach. -- "Why don't you dance with me, I'm not no limberger!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 24 00:11:05 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:11:05 -0000 Subject: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) Message-ID: Has anyone read the article on Snitchseeker.com about the new DH movie? Actually, it's an interview with the set designer for the HP films, Stuart Craig, who says that he cried (silently) when ***spoiler alert*** ***Stop reading now if you're the one person on earth who doesn't know what happens in Deathly Hallows*** Carol resumes: the scene with Snape's death was shot. The URL is http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/stuart-craig-cried-watching-snapes-death-filming-deathly-hallows-71172/ Talk about a spoiler--it's not just in the headline, it's in the URL itself! That also gives us an idea of where they are in the simultaneous filming of the two parts of DH. I hope they keep all of Snape's scenes, even the photo in the Prophet of him giving his acceptance speech when he's appointed headmaster. Carol, realizing that the spoiler alert is probably unnecessary, but you never know! From brian at rescueddoggies.com Wed Feb 24 13:25:38 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:25:38 -0300 Subject: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) Message-ID: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com> replying to Carol, realizing that the spoiler alert is probably unnecessary, but you never know! I had to laugh at that. If there's someone on here who DOESN'T know what happens in Deathly Hallows by now I thinks there's something severely wrong! (spoiler alert - Voldemort gets access to a nuclear bomb and accidently blows up London and Harry and himself) Brian From charober at sympatico.ca Wed Feb 24 23:15:16 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:15:16 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com> References: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: LOL! Too funny Brian! Since when would Voldemort know anything about that nuclear stuff that Muggles use? I suppose he could try and sneak the information out of Arthur Weasley! I'm also eagerly anticipating seeing Alan Rickman's performance in that scene...Though I also know I'll be curled up in the fetal position crying when the last movie's out, just like I was a few weeks before the last book came out! Charlotte, who is now trying to get through a pile of unread books, including many I got for Christmas To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: brian at rescueddoggies.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:25:38 -0300 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) replying to Carol, realizing that the spoiler alert is probably unnecessary, but you never know! I had to laugh at that. If there's someone on here who DOESN'T know what happens in Deathly Hallows by now I thinks there's something severely wrong! (spoiler alert - Voldemort gets access to a nuclear bomb and accidently blows up London and Harry and himself) Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From no.limberger at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 14:18:21 2010 From: no.limberger at gmail.com (No Limberger) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:18:21 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: References: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: <7ef72f91002250618p481ff86dq7d852c6902dba7f3@mail.gmail.com> There were several sad death scenes in the DH book. I imagine that there will be tears from audience members when watching each part of DH in theaters. -- "Why don't you dance with me, I'm not no limberger!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From brian at rescueddoggies.com Thu Feb 25 14:11:48 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:11:48 -0300 Subject: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) Message-ID: <4B868524.9060203@rescueddoggies.com> replying to LOL! Too funny Brian! Since when would Voldemort know anything about that nuclear stuff that Muggles use? I suppose he could try and sneak the information out of Arthur Weasley! He got Arthur under the Imperious to find a super-weapon and Arthur tried to take it apart as he couldn't see what was clear about it, even if it did look new. That's why he ACCIDENTALLY blows up London and Harry and himself Although I didn't think much of the sixth film (but then the book wasn't my favourite either), like you, I'm really looking forward to the Deathly Hallows films. There's lot of real emotional stuff in there. I hope they don't strip it out like they did that wonderful scene in Half Blood Prince where Fleur declared her love for Bill after he was attacked. Brian From charober at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 25 22:58:54 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:58:54 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: <7ef72f91002250618p481ff86dq7d852c6902dba7f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com>,,<7ef72f91002250618p481ff86dq7d852c6902dba7f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: no.limberger at gmail.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:18:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) Replying to: There were several sad death scenes in the DH book. I imagine that there will be tears from audience members when watching each part of DH in theaters. And yet I didn't cry at all when I read the book, though I actually gasped (the first time I read it) when Lupin and Tonks were found dead. That's why I only read it at home! Well, almost. Speaking of which, I went to see Percy Jackson and The Olympians' The Lightning Thief a couple weeks ago, and it's an awesome movie! Way better than the reviewers made it out to be, since they overcompared it in terms of the next Harry Potter. Now I really want to read the books. Charlotte [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From charober at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 25 23:05:34 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:05:34 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: <4B868524.9060203@rescueddoggies.com> References: <4B868524.9060203@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: Replying to: replying to LOL! Too funny Brian! Since when would Voldemort know anything about that nuclear stuff that Muggles use? I suppose he could try and sneak the information out of Arthur Weasley! He got Arthur under the Imperious to find a super-weapon and Arthur tried to take it apart as he couldn't see what was clear about it, even if it did look new. That's why he ACCIDENTALLY blows up London and Harry and himself Oh of course! Now I remember it! LOL. Brian wrote: Although I didn't think much of the sixth film (but then the book wasn't my favourite either), like you, I'm really looking forward to the Deathly Hallows films. Me too, though HBP was my favourite book, along with GOF. It's hard for me to pick one out of the two! Brian wrote: There's lot of real emotional stuff in there. I hope they don't strip it out like they did that wonderful scene in Half Blood Prince where Fleur declared her love for Bill after he was attacked. One part of HBP that I was disappointed that I didin't get to see was the advertisement for U-No-Poo at Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes. I remember when I was re-reading the series in '07 I didn't remember that part, and I had a laughing episode for a couple minutes! Charlotte [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From rmieure at yahoo.com Fri Feb 26 05:28:30 2010 From: rmieure at yahoo.com (Robin Mieure) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:28:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Percy Jackson (was Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!)) In-Reply-To: References: <4B8528D2.5080902@rescueddoggies.com>,,<7ef72f91002250618p481ff86dq7d852c6902dba7f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452034.65861.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Charlotte: "Speaking of which, I went to see Percy Jackson and The Olympians' The Lightning Thief a couple weeks ago, and it's an awesome movie! Way better than the reviewers made it out to be, since they overcompared it in terms of the next Harry Potter. Now I really want to read the books." Robin: It was a great action movie, but if like me, you'd read the books first you'd be highly disappointed. TLT had at least 3 characters (that I can recall) that were cut from the film which could, like the HP series, cause loads of problem if they continue to film the rest of the series. Also, Hades is altered from the book as well. I work at a theater part-time and I've listened to many students complain that the movie was not the book they read. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Feb 26 15:32:12 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:32:12 -0000 Subject: Percy Jackson (was Re:New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!)) In-Reply-To: <452034.65861.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Robin: > It was a great action movie, but if like me, you'd read > the books first you'd be highly disappointed. TLT had > at least 3 characters (that I can recall) that were cut > from the film which could, like the HP series, cause > loads of problem if they continue to film the rest of > the series. Also, Hades is altered from the book as > well. I work at a theater part-time and I've listened > to many students complain that the movie was not the > book they read. Kemper now: I read the books and, yeah, the screenplay sucked. But I enjoyed this first movie way more than HP's first one. Percy doesn't have a huge or crossover to adult fanbase that HP enjoys, so hopes for a better sequel seems lost. It's too bad because the series overall is fun, each book is better than the last, and the world just on the outside of our mortal vision is thought out. Kemper From brian at rescueddoggies.com Sat Feb 27 02:07:02 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:07:02 -0300 Subject: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) Message-ID: <4B887E46.4090402@rescueddoggies.com> replying to One part of HBP that I was disappointed that I didin't get to see was the advertisement for U-No-Poo at Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes. I remember when I was re-reading the series in '07 I didn't remember that part, and I had a laughing episode for a couple minutes! Charlotte I wonder why they didn't put that in there? In wouldn't have taken any extra filming time. I guess SOMEONE thought it might be offensive or something. Torture's okay, but poo, no. lol Brian From CatMcNulty at comcast.net Sat Feb 27 16:00:00 2010 From: CatMcNulty at comcast.net (catmcnulty) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:00:00 -0000 Subject: Percy Jackson (To Kemper) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "kemper" wrote: > Kemper now: > I read the books and, yeah, the screenplay sucked. But I enjoyed this first movie way more than HP's first one. > snip> > Kemper > I am so sorry Kemper, that is quite unfortunate. I was absolutely enthralled and delighted by the first HP!It was my imagination appearing on the screen. I saw it six times in the theatre and the release of the DVD was the reason I bought my first DVD player. I did become more jaded and disgruntled when The-Director-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, sacrificed many of the precious moments and nuances created by JKR and sets established in the first two HP films, to indulge his own ham-handed ego. It is a pity that my favorite book was made into my least favorite HP film. Cat From Schlobin1 at aol.com Sun Feb 28 06:51:10 2010 From: Schlobin1 at aol.com (Susan M) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:51:10 -0000 Subject: Kudos to Daniel Radcliffe! Message-ID: http://www.examiner.com/x-27339-Cincinnati-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m2d27-Harry-Potters-Daniel-Radcliffe-speaks-out-on-supporting-homosexual-charities I became aware of the Raven Project (a 24/7 hotline for youth re LGBTQ? issues)...when I was teaching a course about Queer Issues in the Schools for our local university. Daniel talks eloquently in his interview about his passion for justice for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and questioning youth, and how we wants to support the human rights and suicide prevention mission of the Raven Project. http://www.rcaa.org/ysb/stroutrch.html Susan P.S. Let Dumbledore Marry (should he choose to!) From kempermentor at yahoo.com Sun Feb 28 19:48:02 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:48:02 -0000 Subject: Percy Jackson (To Kemper) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cat: > I am so sorry Kemper, that is quite unfortunate. I was absolutely enthralled and delighted by the first HP!It was my imagination appearing on the screen. Kemper: I can see where the movie captured the look of the book, but it missed the feel, the tone and rang hollow for me. > Cat: > I did become more jaded and disgruntled when The-Director-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, sacrificed many of the precious moments and nuances created by JKR and sets established in the first two HP films, to indulge his own ham-handed ego. It is a pity that my favorite book was made into my least favorite HP film. Kemper: My viewing experience differs. :D So far, HBP is my preferred HP movie. I'm hopeful the last movies will make for a more satisfying and healthier meal than the book with its tasty but empty calories. Kemper From charober at sympatico.ca Sun Feb 28 21:03:33 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:03:33 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: <4B887E46.4090402@rescueddoggies.com> References: <4B887E46.4090402@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: Replying to: replying to One part of HBP that I was disappointed that I didin't get to see was the advertisement for U-No-Poo at Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes. I remember when I was re-reading the series in '07 I didn't remember that part, and I had a laughing episode for a couple minutes! Charlotte Brian wrote: I wonder why they didn't put that in there? In wouldn't have taken any extra filming time. I guess SOMEONE thought it might be offensive or something. Torture's okay, but poo, no. lol A delicious pun (not quite, but I don't know what else to call it) JKR came up with though. Another thing-I can't believe I forgot to mention when I originally wrote that email-I was kinda looking forward to Snape's DADA class. Since Snape always longed to teach that, I'm sure he would have been delicious in the niche he's always felt for, and Alan Rickman would have nailed it. Not to mention the posters Snape points out to the class: victims of the Dementor's kiss, torture, etc. Charlotte [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From charober at sympatico.ca Sun Feb 28 21:11:50 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:11:50 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Kudos to Daniel Radcliffe! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Replying to: http://www.examiner.com/x-27339-Cincinnati-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m2d27-Harry-Potters-Daniel-Radcliffe-speaks-out-on-supporting-homosexual-charities I became aware of the Raven Project (a 24/7 hotline for youth re LGBTQ? issues)...when I was teaching a course about Queer Issues in the Schools for our local university. Daniel talks eloquently in his interview about his passion for justice for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and questioning youth, and how we wants to support the human rights and suicide prevention mission of the Raven Project. http://www.rcaa.org/ysb/stroutrch.html Susan P.S. Let Dumbledore Marry (should he choose to!) Well, more like should he still have been alive today! ;) I'm glad Dan is getting involved in this. I am all in favour of gay rights and same sex marriage, and don't understand why some religious people say gays are evil (mainly because I wasn't raised in that domain). Charlotte, whose mother thought Dumbledore was gay even before JKR outed him publicly (believe it or not!) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 28 21:17:58 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:17:58 -0000 Subject: New DH article (major spoiler if you haven't read the book!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Charlotte wrote: Another thing-I can't believe I forgot to mention when I originally wrote that email-I was kinda looking forward to Snape's DADA class. Since Snape always longed to teach that, I'm sure he would have been delicious in the niche he's always felt for, and Alan Rickman would have nailed it. Not to mention the posters Snape points out to the class: victims of the Dementor's kiss, torture, etc. Carol responds: I agree. I love Snape (book and movie) and wish that most of the earlier films hadn't cut his Potions classes, among other potentially great scenes. I would have loved to hear and see him sweeping through the class, making his first-day-of NEWT DADA speech with all eyes fastened on him. I suppose that the filmmakers cut it because they didn't think it was essential to the plot. Alternatively, they may have thought that his horribly realistic posters would push the limits of the PG rating. Carol, hoping for as much Snape as possible in the two DH films and hoping that they do justice to his final scene From brian at rescueddoggies.com Sun Feb 28 13:39:08 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:39:08 -0300 Subject: Kudos to Daniel Radcliffe! Message-ID: <4B8A71FC.2080102@rescueddoggies.com> Firstly, on a serious note, I agree with what you say about Daniel and the charities. I can't help remembering Daniel's interview about having Ron as a James Bond girl if he was a "short-arse" James Bond (his words not mine) Brian