From no.limberger at gmail.com Mon Nov 8 18:14:49 2010 From: no.limberger at gmail.com (No Limberger) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:14:49 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] 3 & 4 Ultimate Edition Blu-Rays In-Reply-To: <000901cb706e$c0c599c0$4250cd40$@com> References: <000901cb706e$c0c599c0$4250cd40$@com> Message-ID: >md wrote: >Unlike 1 & 2 there's no extended versions. When WB first posted info on >these disk they listed extended cuts for all four films, I just got POA from >Amazon yesterday, not only does it not have an extended version, but it only >has DTS-HD sound, the regular blu-ray has superior, uncompressed LPCM sound. >So they want all that money just for the one disk of documentary footage, a >complete waste. No.Limberger responds: I, too, was very disappointed that neither of the ultimate editions of PoA and GoF actually had playable extended versions on the blu-ray disks. That made no sense given that they had done that for SS and CoS, both of which I always watch in the extended versions. -- "Why don't you dance with me, I'm not no limberger!" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 13 15:04:05 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:04:05 -0000 Subject: Coming soon! Message-ID: Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds From s_ings at yahoo.com Sat Nov 13 16:35:20 2010 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:35:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <537156.89613.qm@web63407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Carol: > Less than a week till DH1 hits > theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer > in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first > screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? > > Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to > avoid the crowds > > Sheryll: My enthusiasm is still alive and kicking. We have a group of a dozen or so HP fans who will be seeing it on the Friday evening. My daughter is going to a Thursday midnight screening. I'll be seeing it again on the following Tuesday with her and another friend who can't make the Friday showing. I just had to turn down a chance to see a preview screening on Monday! I had already rearranged my work schedule to see a screening of the restored 1946 documentary on the Nuremburg trial. I can't back out on the evening with friends and the documentary is only having one showing, while Deathly Hallows is going to be around for a while. Sheryll From charober at sympatico.ca Sat Nov 13 19:12:19 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:12:19 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep, I saw the trailer in the theatre when I went to see "You Again" a few weeks ago. There were these teenagers in front of me that got really excited and screamed when it played!! I've seen the commercial for it on TV, and there was an article about it in yesterday's newspaper. I also read recently that Dan and all the other cast and crew burst into tears after they shot the last scene. Of course they would; it's the end of an era! Charlotte, who is super excited about seeing DH To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:04:05 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From ekrdg at verizon.net Sat Nov 13 20:04:58 2010 From: ekrdg at verizon.net (Kimberly) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:04:58 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've seen the trailers and have been keeping up with the media coverage. We have our tickets for the midnight release and I can't wait! I know some wait until the crowds go away but I have to see it right away. I've waited SO long! I have had two people tell me that they aren't going at all until the second part comes out. Kimberly "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them." - Mark Twain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4It5L8JkTo Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From minne1957 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 13 15:52:59 2010 From: minne1957 at yahoo.com (Andrea Degner) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:52:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43368.53413.qm@web36601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Carol, I have had my tickets for two weeks now. I couldn't get into the midnight showing despite the fact that my local theater has three different showing and also a repeat at 1:30A. So, in my area (Milwaukee, WI) we seem to have a lot of interest. But, I have my Friday 10P seats reserved. I simply cannot wait. My most anticipated scene(s) are the ones with Severus as headmaster. Hopefully, they will show his interview with the Daily Prophet, too. The scene with Voldie at the Malfoy's table has been on U-tube for a while, but I'm trying not to watch it too many times before the actual cinema viewing. Will they show Charity Babbage pleading with Snape to save her? What will his expressions (or lack of them) be like? I'm also interested in how they'll do the wedding scene. What will the burrow be like after the fire? And what crazy changes will WB add or leave out? Normally I don't mind if they change things - as long as the plot stays basically true. I consider it sort of a giant WB fanfiction interpretation. If you look at it like that, you can enjoy it more. It can never match the books exactly, but they must keep in the major cliffhangers. Anyone else have some guesses as to what WB will have up their sleeves? Andrea ________________________________ From: justcarol67 To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 9:04:05 AM Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From sandie.hans at gmail.com Sun Nov 14 12:52:24 2010 From: sandie.hans at gmail.com (Sandie) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:52:24 -0000 Subject: Tickets to Tuesday Night's Screening of DH1 in Baltimore Message-ID: Hello fellow Harry Potter fans. I hope it's ok for me to announce this, but I've received 25 tickets (plus guest) to the Baltimore-area's Tuesday night screening (it's early: 6:30PM) of Deathly Hallows to give away. If you by chance live in mid-Atlantic, or would be willing to drive up/down for an early screening, feel free to enter my giveaway: http://spa.typepad.com/mamas/2010/11/are-you-worthy-win-tickets-to-baltimore-harry-potter-screening.html#comments Your chances right now are basically 100%, since there are only four comments, and my giveaway ends at midnight. From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Sun Nov 14 13:08:25 2010 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:08:25 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Coming soon! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EE50697-A311-4DEA-806E-B0A172B80ABF@verizon.net> I'm going to see it on IMAX at midnight with another HP FANatic...can't wait!!! Then I'm taking my kids and husband to see it at 7 pm Friday night. I'm forcing my husband to see these last 2 on the big screen; he usually waits for DVD, and 'claims' he doesn't care for HP (due to my extreme obsession over the last 6 years, haha!) but I catch him watching it when I come home sometimes! I bought the Entertainment Weekly magazine as well as the Movie Magic...however MM had some spoilers so I don't want to read it till I've seen the movie. Likewise, I've watched the teaser trailer and the full trailer a hundred times, but I refuse to watch any more trailers or stills that are showing up daily on Leaky Cauldron. Don't want any more spoilers!! I did watch the live stream of the London premier. I didn't recognize Evanna Lynch w/her red hair! There were some new folks at the premier who I didn't recognize so guess they are new folks in HP7. I'm so happy that they kept Luna's house in the plot and SO hope that they have the fantastic trio mural that was mentioned in the book. That brought tears to my eyes! Enjoy the movie, all!!!!!!!! On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Kimberly wrote: > I've seen the trailers and have been keeping up with the media > coverage. We have our tickets for the midnight release and I can't > wait! I know some wait until the crowds go away but I have to see it > right away. I've waited SO long! I have had two people tell me that > they aren't going at all until the second part comes out. > > Kimberly > > "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man > who can't read them." > - Mark Twain > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4It5L8JkTo > > Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has > anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend > the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? > > Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the > crowds > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Sun Nov 14 13:11:40 2010 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:11:40 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Tickets to Tuesday Night's Screening of DH1 in Baltimore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6CC190EF-00B5-4071-AF41-57B1EA908C17@verizon.net> Oh man, that is SO awesome!!! I live in VA, but am not able to go on Tuesday...darn! Thanks so much for extending the offer tho! Valerie On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Sandie wrote: > Hello fellow Harry Potter fans. I hope it's ok for me to announce > this, but I've received 25 tickets (plus guest) to the Baltimore- > area's Tuesday night screening (it's early: 6:30PM) of Deathly > Hallows to give away. If you by chance live in mid-Atlantic, or > would be willing to drive up/down for an early screening, feel free > to enter my giveaway: http://spa.typepad.com/mamas/2010/11/are-you-worthy-win-tickets-to-baltimore-harry-potter-screening.html#comments > > Your chances right now are basically 100%, since there are only four > comments, and my giveaway ends at midnight. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From karategal1210 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 15 16:42:51 2010 From: karategal1210 at yahoo.com (karategal1210) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:42:51 -0000 Subject: Coming soon! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I haven't seen the trailer in the movie theater, but I have seen the trailers and the TV spots online. I have tickets to the midnight showing on Thursday. I have tried staying away from the clips, but I'm really pumped to see the film. It looks good. danielle --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > > Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? > > Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds > From carylcb at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 16:10:05 2010 From: carylcb at hotmail.com (Augusta) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:10:05 -0000 Subject: Coming soon! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: justcarol67: > > > > Less than a week till DH1 hits theaters and no one is posting! Has anyone seen the trailer in movie theaters? Anyone planning to attend the first screening? Or has all our enthusiasm drained away? > > > > Carol, who usually waits a week to see a new HP film to avoid the crowds > > > Caryl: I've had my tickets for weeks. Can't go to the midnight showing, but we're going straight to the theater when we get back into town on Friday. Also, I'm listening to the soundtrack now. Saw Emma on Letterman last night and Dan on Fallon -- hilarious! Can't wait to see them on the big screen! From ekrdg at verizon.net Wed Nov 17 03:21:41 2010 From: ekrdg at verizon.net (Kimberly) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:21:41 -0500 Subject: Just saw Deathly Hallows!!! (No spoilers!) Message-ID: <65F067760C2B4C9D83747CF9F9CAB865@KimberlyPC> My daughter and I just returned from seeing an advanced screening of the movie (BIG THANKS TO SANDIE FOR THE PASSES!!!!!!!!!!!). Of course I can't really digest it all yet but I will say that I am VERY pleased with Warner Bros. and what they did with the film. For the most part they stayed true to the book and didn't add much to it. I will wait for any "official" commentating until it's been released. If you want to e-mail me private you can. I don't know what protocol is for spoilers before it's been released or do we assume everyone knows what happens because it's the movie? Kimberly ekrdg at verizon.net "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them." - Mark Twain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4It5L8JkTo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From md at exit-reality.com Wed Nov 17 04:53:24 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:53:24 -0500 Subject: How extended? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000c01cb8613$5df614e0$19e23ea0$@com> My blu-ray of HP1 is 159min, according to Fios, their extended version is 199min. Has anyone seen this? Is there really a version nearly an hour longer than the theatrical??? md [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From CatMcNulty at comcast.net Wed Nov 17 16:39:39 2010 From: CatMcNulty at comcast.net (catmcnulty) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:39:39 -0000 Subject: Just saw Deathly Hallows!!! (No spoilers!) In-Reply-To: <65F067760C2B4C9D83747CF9F9CAB865@KimberlyPC> Message-ID: I AM SO JEALOUS!!!!! 37 hours and counting! --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly" wrote: > > My daughter and I just returned from seeing an advanced screening of the movie (BIG THANKS TO SANDIE FOR THE PASSES!!!!!!!!!!!). > > Of course I can't really digest it all yet but I will say that I am VERY pleased with Warner Bros. and what they did with the film. For the most part they stayed true to the book and didn't add much to it. > > I will wait for any "official" commentating until it's been released. If you want to e-mail me private you can. I don't know what protocol is for spoilers before it's been released or do we assume everyone knows what happens because it's the movie? > > Kimberly > ekrdg at ... > > "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them." > - Mark Twain > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4It5L8JkTo > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 17 22:10:40 2010 From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (lizzie_mae_lilly) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:10:40 -0000 Subject: How extended? In-Reply-To: <000c01cb8613$5df614e0$19e23ea0$@com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Child Of Midian" wrote: > > My blu-ray of HP1 is 159min, according to Fios, their extended version is > 199min. Has anyone seen this? Is there really a version nearly an hour > longer than the theatrical??? > > md > The extended version contains all the deleted scenes, but I don't know whether they add up to 50 mins. Lizzie Mae From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sun Nov 21 01:07:55 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:07:55 -0000 Subject: Just Saw the MOVIE - HP 7.1 Message-ID: I was very impressed. Yes, unquestioningly they did cut some things and they did fudge some things, but overall, I think this is David Yates best movie. The pace was fast, they hit the key built points, and pick as good a place as any to stop. I was actually amazed at how quickly they were able to move the story through the equivalent of the book. They covered a lot of ground, and, in my opinion, covered it well ... with some extremely minor reservations here and there. In the theater I was in, there were several laugh out loud moment, though at different places for different people. One group in particular, on the opposite side of the theater (thankfully), laughed hysterically several times; though not annoyingly so. Yet, even with the laughs, the story managed to maintain the tension right up to the end. Of course, like any movie, there were some choice I would quibble with, and some extreme short cuts to keep the story moving, but, once again, and overall, I was very pleased, and think that David Yates has done the best job yet, and look forward to more. There was one place in particular that was left somewhat vague, and could have been easily cleared up if Ron had just spoken the line he was given in the book. Don't want to get too specific; don't want to put anyone off before they see it. Of course, the full cast has upped their game tremendously. They are now showing real acting talent. I'm seriously thinking of seeing it again tomorrow. Steve/bboyminn From bboyminn at yahoo.com Sun Nov 21 01:11:26 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:11:26 -0000 Subject: Opening Weekend Record??? Message-ID: I've read several predictions that the new Harry Potter movie is set to break the Opening Weekend Box Office record. I guess we will know in a couple of days. Steve/bboyminn From klewellen at shellworld.net Sun Nov 21 01:38:54 2010 From: klewellen at shellworld.net (Karen Lewellen) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:38:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: speaking of seeing the movie... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hope this is not off topic, but wondering if there is anyone on the list in Toronto who might want to see it with another fan? I have seen them all on my own, and thought it would be fun to share the experience. where does it stop, if that can be told with spoiling anything, doing a re-read to prepare. thanks, Karen From captainjackswomen at yahoo.com Sun Nov 21 01:16:24 2010 From: captainjackswomen at yahoo.com (Sparrows Lady) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:16:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Opening Weekend Record??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <725526.883.qm@web59813.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Steve/bboyminn: > I've read several predictions that the new Harry Potter movie > is set to break the Opening Weekend Box Office record. > > I guess we will know in a couple of days. I went and saw it I wouldn't mind seeing it again. It's well worth it. Red From brian at rescueddoggies.com Sun Nov 21 15:16:38 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (brian at rescueddoggies.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:16:38 -0300 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com> References: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> It's difficult to say much without risking spoiling it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet... Overall I enjoyed the film, MUCH more than the previous one. I still won't see it more than once in a cinema as I still haven't forgiven Warner Brothers for the lesson they gave us and all the children out there - lying and breaking promises is fine if you can make a buck at it. In the films they do seem to have a way of missing out some of the most emotional moments in the books. In film 6 - Fleur's exchange with Molly after Bill was attacked In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her parents wouldn't miss her. In fact the obliviate scene makes no sense to anyone who hadn't read the books. Before seeing the film, I felt that dividing it into two was right. But it didn't feel like the end of a film, it felt like the end of part one of a two-part TV drama, where you expect to watch part two the next day or week on your TV. I think I'd have preferred a four hour film to an eight month wait. Either that or a longer wait for part 1 so we could see the two close together. If I was asked to revew it properly, I'd have to wait and see all of it before giving a final thumbs up or thumbs down. So half a thumb up for part 1 Brian From brian at rescueddoggies.com Sun Nov 21 15:40:55 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (brian at rescueddoggies.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:40:55 -0300 Subject: A new warning? In-Reply-To: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com> References: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: We're used to seeing warnings for films with words like "strong language, violence" etc... but the NY Times has invented new warnings Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Dark arts, rough magic. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/19/movies/19harry.html?_r=2&emc=tnt&tntemail1=y Brian From md at exit-reality.com Sun Nov 21 22:27:35 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:27:35 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A new warning? In-Reply-To: References: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000f01cb89cb$4c196450$e44c2cf0$@com> I knew they wrote those papers for a sixth grade reading level, I didn't realize they wrote it for sixth graders. md From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brian at rescueddoggies.com Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 10:41 AM To: hpfgu-movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A new warning? We're used to seeing warnings for films with words like "strong language, violence" etc... but the NY Times has invented new warnings "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1" is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Dark arts, rough magic. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/19/movies/19harry.html?_r=2 &emc=tnt&tntemail1=y Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From agdisney at msn.com Mon Nov 22 00:14:04 2010 From: agdisney at msn.com (Andrea Grevera) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:14:04 -0500 Subject: Movie 7pt1 Message-ID: I just returned from seeing DH . It was better then the last 4 but... Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. Wormtail still alive? Why? Mudblood branded on her arm? Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru the same forest the the trio apparates into? There was nothing about the portrait that they took from Sirius' home so how did someone know to send the "Doe" and the sword to the Forrest of Dean? Just a good guess? Also they way it was filmed was giving me a headache. When they are standing still or sitting and they are vibrating up and down because the camera was not steady was annoying. I felt I was watching an amateur film maker with a video camera on his shoulder. I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. Andie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From md at exit-reality.com Mon Nov 22 01:22:16 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:22:16 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000701cb89e3$b3c254f0$1b46fed0$@com> I liked all but #2, I agree that a lot of cuts leave logical holes, but when a rabid film-hater like Pete Travers of Rolling Stone who does not read the books gets into a film I think that says something. As for the Dursley's -- they filmed it I know because of interviews where they talked about being on the set so let's hope that unlike 3 and 4 they release an extended blu-ray. We're trying to figure out how to go see it and how to afford it but I've seen all six twice each, so to not go now would just suck - on the other hand there's the electric bill, food and xmas to consider... md From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrea Grevera Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:14 PM To: HPFGU-Movie Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 I just returned from seeing DH . It was better then the last 4 but... Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. Wormtail still alive? Why? Mudblood branded on her arm? Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru the same forest the the trio apparates into? There was nothing about the portrait that they took from Sirius' home so how did someone know to send the "Doe" and the sword to the Forrest of Dean? Just a good guess? Also they way it was filmed was giving me a headache. When they are standing still or sitting and they are vibrating up and down because the camera was not steady was annoying. I felt I was watching an amateur film maker with a video camera on his shoulder. I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. Andie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Nov 22 05:11:16 2010 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:11:16 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: Using spoiler warnings Message-ID: *a frazzled List Elf tries to keep order in the lobby* Please, please, keep moving in an orderly fashion. Those exiting the theatre keep to the right and move quietly and quickly towards the exit. Those with tickets in hand, stop pushing. We'll let you in as soon as the next screening room is clear. Rest assured there are plenty of seats available. The List Elves politely request that those who've already seen the film not spoil it for those waiting patiently in line. Please use a SPOILER warning in your subject header for messages that include specific details of the movie and do NOT include any specific movie moments in the subject header itself. For whatever reasons, not all our list members are able to see the film immediately on release. The use of Spoiler warnings and more generic subject headers will allow them to more easily filter messages here and let them experience the full wonder of the film when they see it themselves. We appreciate your co-operation in making sure all our list members have the best movie experience possible. *grabs popcorn and a drink from the concession stand and hurries to the nearest screening room, trailed by a long line of Muggles in Harry Potter costumes* Rylly Elf for HPFGU Hexquarters From bonsaikathy at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 15:27:37 2010 From: bonsaikathy at gmail.com (ac4lb) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:27:37 -0000 Subject: HP 7 part 1-spoiler warning Message-ID: Although I liked this movie far better than the last fiasco there were cuts that shouldn't have been made and parts put in that I just didn't understand. I'd have preferred the scene between the Dursleys and Harry at the beginning to be more like in the book. The way it was done they might as well have left it out as it didn't really make much sense if you hadn't read the books. Especially when they left them out of the last movie altogether. They could have cut the Harry/Hermoine dancing scene, again it made no sense to me why they put it in there. It would have been better to use that several minutes of time to add something in like the Dursley scene. What happened to the invisibility cloak? Why leave that out? I think the part where Harry walked up to Luna's room would have been really nice. The way they did it doesn't really show the friendship that grew between them. I don't know, it was a lot more satisfying and easy for me to watch than the last movie. I have yet to sit through the dvd from beginning to end. So the only time I've seen the whole 6 the movie was in the theater. I just dislike the way it was done. No continuity and most of it made no sense at all to me. This one wasn't perfect but at least I wasn't left totally disappointed and so there is promise for the last one coming in July. Unless they go and change the date on us again. :) Kat From captainjackswomen at yahoo.com Mon Nov 22 02:50:20 2010 From: captainjackswomen at yahoo.com (Sparrows Lady) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:50:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: <234864.48238.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Brian: > Overall I enjoyed the film, MUCH more than the previous > one.? > In the films they do seem to have a way of missing out some > of the most emotional moments in the books. > In film 6 - Fleur's exchange with Molly after Bill was > attacked In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her > parents wouldn't miss her.? In fact the obliviate scene makes > no sense to anyone who hadn't read the books. Red: I had to admit I jumped several times in the movie. I knew the snake was coming but wow I nearly fell out of my seat. I thought it was good and I enjoyed despite the major cuts. I loved the tent scene where Hermione and Harry dance I mean come on despite all the hell that is going on they need some kind of release (at least they didn't kiss). Which allot of people would have done in the fan fiction world of HP. I've come across that allot. I am very much going to see it again I can't wait for two. Love,Red From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Nov 22 19:59:13 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:59:13 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Opening Weekend Record??? In-Reply-To: <725526.883.qm@web59813.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <725526.883.qm@web59813.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <037001cb8a7f$bc951e40$35bf5ac0$@com> We saw it on Friday evening. (my boys are 12 and 7) and we all enjoyed it very much. well, except for the sad stuff. which I warned my sons that most likely the last movie will have me in major tears. I thought the cast did really well and I am so completely looking forward to the last one. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sparrows Lady Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:16 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Opening Weekend Record??? Steve/bboyminn: > I've read several predictions that the new Harry Potter movie > is set to break the Opening Weekend Box Office record. > > I guess we will know in a couple of days. I went and saw it I wouldn't mind seeing it again. It's well worth it. Red [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Nov 22 20:07:34 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:07:34 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <037801cb8a80$e9807cf0$bc8176d0$@com> Oh I totally agree about the shaky camera scenes!!! I think it was the worst in Sirius' bedroom. horrible choice! And in the movie they didn't really go in to why "things needed to be set right" between the Malfoy's and Voldie. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrea Grevera Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:14 PM To: HPFGU-Movie Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 I just returned from seeing DH . It was better then the last 4 but... Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. Wormtail still alive? Why? Mudblood branded on her arm? Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru the same forest the the trio apparates into? There was nothing about the portrait that they took from Sirius' home so how did someone know to send the "Doe" and the sword to the Forrest of Dean? Just a good guess? Also they way it was filmed was giving me a headache. When they are standing still or sitting and they are vibrating up and down because the camera was not steady was annoying. I felt I was watching an amateur film maker with a video camera on his shoulder. I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. Andie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Nov 22 20:10:22 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:10:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP 7 part 1-spoiler warning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <037d01cb8a81$4e692900$eb3b7b00$@com> I was looking forward to seeing Luna's room as well, and I totally agree about the Dursleys in the beginning should have been like the book. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ac4lb Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:28 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP 7 part 1-spoiler warning Although I liked this movie far better than the last fiasco there were cuts that shouldn't have been made and parts put in that I just didn't understand. I'd have preferred the scene between the Dursleys and Harry at the beginning to be more like in the book. The way it was done they might as well have left it out as it didn't really make much sense if you hadn't read the books. Especially when they left them out of the last movie altogether. They could have cut the Harry/Hermoine dancing scene, again it made no sense to me why they put it in there. It would have been better to use that several minutes of time to add something in like the Dursley scene. What happened to the invisibility cloak? Why leave that out? I think the part where Harry walked up to Luna's room would have been really nice. The way they did it doesn't really show the friendship that grew between them. I don't know, it was a lot more satisfying and easy for me to watch than the last movie. I have yet to sit through the dvd from beginning to end. So the only time I've seen the whole 6 the movie was in the theater. I just dislike the way it was done. No continuity and most of it made no sense at all to me. This one wasn't perfect but at least I wasn't left totally disappointed and so there is promise for the last one coming in July. Unless they go and change the date on us again. :) Kat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Nov 22 20:12:40 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:12:40 -0500 Subject: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <234864.48238.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> <234864.48238.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <038801cb8a81$a1ddc0f0$e59942d0$@com> I liked their dancing scene. it showed their attempts at lightening the mood. However them naked in the swirl in the horcrux cloud was a scene that for the much younger crowd could have had them in clothes. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sparrows Lady Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:50 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 Brian: > Overall I enjoyed the film, MUCH more than the previous > one. > In the films they do seem to have a way of missing out some > of the most emotional moments in the books. > In film 6 - Fleur's exchange with Molly after Bill was > attacked In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her > parents wouldn't miss her. In fact the obliviate scene makes > no sense to anyone who hadn't read the books. Red: I had to admit I jumped several times in the movie. I knew the snake was coming but wow I nearly fell out of my seat. I thought it was good and I enjoyed despite the major cuts. I loved the tent scene where Hermione and Harry dance I mean come on despite all the hell that is going on they need some kind of release (at least they didn't kiss). Which allot of people would have done in the fan fiction world of HP. I've come across that allot. I am very much going to see it again I can't wait for two. Love,Red [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Nov 22 21:23:51 2010 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:23:51 -0000 Subject: ADMIN: In addition to Spoiler warnings Message-ID: *taps feet and takes away all the popcorn until everyone is paying attention* I've been reminded that a simple SPOILER warning in message subject header isn't quite adequate to hide the spoilers from your fellow list members. Since the first few lines of each message is visible, we ask that any spoilers be placed further into the message. You can simply just type the word "Spoiler" a few times, followed by the enter key to make sure that each word is on a separate line. This should suffice to keep things hidden from those who've yet to see the films. I will also note that replies to messages should have your response BELOW the bits that you're quoting. Assuming that the quote doesn't contain spoilers, the quoted material would probably be enough that you can dive right in with your impressions. We really appreciate you making the effort to make sure that all our list members can enjoy the movie without reading anything that might detract from their experience. Rylly Elf for HPFGU Hexquarters *hands out popcorn, drinks and napkins and resumes the previously scheduled programming* From charober at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 23:44:05 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:44:05 +0000 Subject: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <038801cb8a81$a1ddc0f0$e59942d0$@com> References: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> <234864.48238.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>,<038801cb8a81$a1ddc0f0$e59942d0$@com> Message-ID: Weeell, Dan and Emma were wearing jeans when they filmed it, so technically they were clothed; that part was just CGI-ed. The audience in my theatre oohed and giggled at that part!! *blush* Besides, the purpose of that is for the Horcrux to haunt Ron with his worst nightmare right when he opens it, so it does warrant it. Charlotte, who's already looking forward to seeing the movie a second time this upcoming weekend To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: taguem at jmsearch.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:12:40 -0500 Subject: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 I liked their dancing scene. it showed their attempts at lightening the mood. However them naked in the swirl in the horcrux cloud was a scene that for the much younger crowd could have had them in clothes. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sparrows Lady Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:50 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 Brian: > Overall I enjoyed the film, MUCH more than the previous > one. > In the films they do seem to have a way of missing out some > of the most emotional moments in the books. > In film 6 - Fleur's exchange with Molly after Bill was > attacked In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her > parents wouldn't miss her. In fact the obliviate scene makes > no sense to anyone who hadn't read the books. Red: I had to admit I jumped several times in the movie. I knew the snake was coming but wow I nearly fell out of my seat. I thought it was good and I enjoyed despite the major cuts. I loved the tent scene where Hermione and Harry dance I mean come on despite all the hell that is going on they need some kind of release (at least they didn't kiss). Which allot of people would have done in the fan fiction world of HP. I've come across that allot. I am very much going to see it again I can't wait for two. Love,Red [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From charober at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 22 23:47:14 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:47:14 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A new warning? In-Reply-To: References: <1290349509.424.84542.m3@yahoogroups.com>, Message-ID: "Dark Arts" seems too vague for a warning. And I don't know the difference between "rough magic" and other warnings they always used to give in the past movies: "Scenes of fantasy violence and frightening images," which they didn't even give warnings for in this movie. Could anyone give an example of the "rough magic" that was in the movie? Charlotte To: hpfgu-movie at yahoogroups.com From: brian at rescueddoggies.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:40:55 -0300 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] A new warning? We're used to seeing warnings for films with words like "strong language, violence" etc... but the NY Times has invented new warnings ?Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1? is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Dark arts, rough magic. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/19/movies/19harry.html?_r=2&emc=tnt&tntemail1=y Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From charober at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 23 00:02:47 2010 From: charober at sympatico.ca (charober at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:02:47 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where was I that I never noticed the camera vibrating? To think I would have; I was surprised when I read it here. And I agree completely about how Harry should have found his mother's letter to Sirius, and I wondered Isn't this where Wormtail dies? when nothing happens to him. As for the Dursleys, well I would have looked forward to Dudley's line "Why isn't he coming with us?" and points at Harry. Maybe it's because I'm biased at how I love JKR's narration when Vernon and Petunia look at Dudley "as though he had just expressed a desire to become a ballerina." (DH, p. 38) After seeing the movie I think now I appreciate the book more. When I first read it, I was rather disappointed that it didn't take place at Hogwarts (for the school year), but now I love it. I'll be really sad when the last movie is over. I felt the sentiments when Dan admitted that he and the cast and crew cried after they shot the last scene of the last movie- Which I read, if you're wondering, was at the Ministry of Magic when the three jump into the fireplace. Charlotte To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: agdisney at msn.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:14:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 I just returned from seeing DH . It was better then the last 4 but... Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. Wormtail still alive? Why? Mudblood branded on her arm? Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru the same forest the the trio apparates into? There was nothing about the portrait that they took from Sirius' home so how did someone know to send the "Doe" and the sword to the Forrest of Dean? Just a good guess? Also they way it was filmed was giving me a headache. When they are standing still or sitting and they are vibrating up and down because the camera was not steady was annoying. I felt I was watching an amateur film maker with a video camera on his shoulder. I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. Andie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From valerie.flowe at verizon.net Tue Nov 23 04:42:28 2010 From: valerie.flowe at verizon.net (Valerie Flowe) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:42:28 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: * S P O I L E R S * S P O I L E R S * I was thrilled with DH Part 1!! I thought the acting and directing was excellent. I saw it at midnight on IMAX which was a blast because most people there were obsessive Potter fans; dressed up, excited, chanting, carrying on. Saw it again the next night w/my family. Having learned from prior disappointments, I try to go into HP films knowing that they will surely change some things from the book, but I have to say I felt that they stayed quite close to the text and I am grateful for the 5 hours that they are allotting to tell this final tale. Here are some of my favorite parts: - The tale of the 3 brothers; BRILLIANT the way they animated that...wow! - When Ginny asks Harry to zip her up. It's quite innocently sensual, the way he slowly zips her then puts his hand on her shoulder. It's their only scene together and yet it shows how intimate they've become since the last film. And then George walking in and smirking with the toothbrush in his ear, is a riotl! - Love the 7 Harry's scene and Fred (or George's) smart aleck remark to Mad Eye about the Goblin Piss! And Harry's lack of fashion sense, lol! - I like the part when Ron & Harry are sitting on the cot talking about Hermione. Ron says "How long you reckon she'll be mad at me?" and Harry replies "Just keep telling that story about the ball of light to your heart!" heehee! They've come a long way from their girl cluelessness in GOF! And when the new wand creates a ball of flame out of the jar...so funny! There are just so many subtleties that I love in this film: - When Ron touches Hermione's face in the cafe. - The way Lucius cringes when V snaps his wand, like he's going to curse him or something. V mocking his "My Lord". The look on Snape's face when the teacher is pleading with him. It says so much even tho he's trying so hard to remain completely impassive. - The torture scene between Bella & Hermione really makes me squirm...so evil!!! I liked the addition of "mudblood" dug into Hermione's arm. Apparently that was Helena's idea, ha! - Love how it shows all 3 of the trio taking turns at setting the protective charms around their campsite. They are all getting quite good at their 'craft'. - Love when Dobby keeps pushing Kreacher back while walking on the table, and then Kreacher is poking Mundungus, haha! They did an outstanding CG job on Kreacher...his mouth/teeth, loose skin...he looked so real! More real than Dobby, actually. - Love the way they ended Part 1. The final scene is so powerful. The ruthless way that V smashes D's tomb, then grins evilly as he takes the wand from him and raises it to the sky...shiver!! From OctobersChild48 at aol.com Tue Nov 23 05:22:00 2010 From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:22:00 EST Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] Message-ID: <1a605.5d154f72.3a1ca978@aol.com> I agree with every word of your review. I saw the movie at the 11 a.m. matinee last Friday. We were shocked at how packed the theater was! This is, by far, the best one yet with the exception of Sorcerer's Stone, which will always be my favorite. Sandy I can't wait for the DVD to be released. Does anyone know if the two parts are going to be released separately on DVD or if they are going to wait and release them together in a boxed set? In a message dated 11/22/2010 11:42:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, valerie.flowe at verizon.net writes: * S P O I L E R S * S P O I L E R S * I was thrilled with DH Part 1!! I thought the acting and directing was excellent. I saw it at midnight on IMAX which was a blast because most people there were obsessive Potter fans; dressed up, excited, chanting, carrying on. Saw it again the next night w/my family. Having learned from prior disappointments, I try to go into HP films knowing that they will surely change some things from the book, but I have to say I felt that they stayed quite close to the text and I am grateful for the 5 hours that they are allotting to tell this final tale. Here are some of my favorite parts: - The tale of the 3 brothers; BRILLIANT the way they animated that...wow! - When Ginny asks Harry to zip her up. It's quite innocently sensual, the way he slowly zips her then puts his hand on her shoulder. It's their only scene together and yet it shows how intimate they've become since the last film. And then George walking in and smirking with the toothbrush in his ear, is a riotl! - Love the 7 Harry's scene and Fred (or George's) smart aleck remark to Mad Eye about the Goblin Piss! And Harry's lack of fashion sense, lol! - I like the part when Ron & Harry are sitting on the cot talking about Hermione. Ron says "How long you reckon she'll be mad at me?" and Harry replies "Just keep telling that story about the ball of light to your heart!" heehee! They've come a long way from their girl cluelessness in GOF! And when the new wand creates a ball of flame out of the jar...so funny! There are just so many subtleties that I love in this film: - When Ron touches Hermione's face in the cafe. - The way Lucius cringes when V snaps his wand, like he's going to curse him or something. V mocking his "My Lord". The look on Snape's face when the teacher is pleading with him. It says so much even tho he's trying so hard to remain completely impassive. - The torture scene between Bella & Hermione really makes me squirm...so evil!!! I liked the addition of "mudblood" dug into Hermione's arm. Apparently that was Helena's idea, ha! - Love how it shows all 3 of the trio taking turns at setting the protective charms around their campsite. They are all getting quite good at their 'craft'. - Love when Dobby keeps pushing Kreacher back while walking on the table, and then Kreacher is poking Mundungus, haha! They did an outstanding CG job on Kreacher...his mouth/teeth, loose skin...he looked so real! More real than Dobby, actually. - Love the way they ended Part 1. The final scene is so powerful. The ruthless way that V smashes D's tomb, then grins evilly as he takes the wand from him and raises it to the sky...shiver!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 23 13:59:46 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:59:46 -0500 Subject: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> <234864.48238.qm@web59808.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>,<038801cb8a81$a1ddc0f0$e59942d0$@com> Message-ID: <00d401cb8b16$b04cb6b0$10e62410$@com> Oh I totally get that perspective... wasn't trying to sound argumentative... there were just a ton of little ones in my theater that were shocked... one little boy was like THEY ARE NAKED... which made people giggle... Michelle, who absolutely can't wait to see it again! -----Original Message----- From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charober at sympatico.ca Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:44 PM To: hpfgu-movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 Weeell, Dan and Emma were wearing jeans when they filmed it, so technically they were clothed; that part was just CGI-ed. The audience in my theatre oohed and giggled at that part!! *blush* Besides, the purpose of that is for the Horcrux to haunt Ron with his worst nightmare right when he opens it, so it does warrant it. Charlotte, who's already looking forward to seeing the movie a second time this upcoming weekend To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: taguem at jmsearch.com Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:12:40 -0500 Subject: spoiler details! RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 I liked their dancing scene. it showed their attempts at lightening the mood. However them naked in the swirl in the horcrux cloud was a scene that for the much younger crowd could have had them in clothes. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sparrows Lady Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:50 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] Movie 7pt1 Brian: > Overall I enjoyed the film, MUCH more than the previous > one. > In the films they do seem to have a way of missing out some > of the most emotional moments in the books. > In film 6 - Fleur's exchange with Molly after Bill was > attacked In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her > parents wouldn't miss her. In fact the obliviate scene makes > no sense to anyone who hadn't read the books. Red: I had to admit I jumped several times in the movie. I knew the snake was coming but wow I nearly fell out of my seat. I thought it was good and I enjoyed despite the major cuts. I loved the tent scene where Hermione and Harry dance I mean come on despite all the hell that is going on they need some kind of release (at least they didn't kiss). Which allot of people would have done in the fan fiction world of HP. I've come across that allot. I am very much going to see it again I can't wait for two. Love,Red [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Remember to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions or problems - contact the List Elves at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 23 14:01:39 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:01:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00d501cb8b16$f336fe40$d9a4fac0$@com> I feel the same! I will be sad it's come to an end! Has anyone been watching the Potter specials that are showing on TV now? They have Potter creatures and the world of HP... I've seen them all a bunch of times...but certainly am enjoying watching them again now. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charober at sympatico.ca Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:03 PM To: hpfgu-movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 Where was I that I never noticed the camera vibrating? To think I would have; I was surprised when I read it here. And I agree completely about how Harry should have found his mother's letter to Sirius, and I wondered Isn't this where Wormtail dies? when nothing happens to him. As for the Dursleys, well I would have looked forward to Dudley's line "Why isn't he coming with us?" and points at Harry. Maybe it's because I'm biased at how I love JKR's narration when Vernon and Petunia look at Dudley "as though he had just expressed a desire to become a ballerina." (DH, p. 38) After seeing the movie I think now I appreciate the book more. When I first read it, I was rather disappointed that it didn't take place at Hogwarts (for the school year), but now I love it. I'll be really sad when the last movie is over. I felt the sentiments when Dan admitted that he and the cast and crew cried after they shot the last scene of the last movie- Which I read, if you're wondering, was at the Ministry of Magic when the three jump into the fireplace. Charlotte To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com From: agdisney at msn.com Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:14:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 I just returned from seeing DH . It was better then the last 4 but... Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. Wormtail still alive? Why? Mudblood branded on her arm? Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru the same forest the the trio apparates into? There was nothing about the portrait that they took from Sirius' home so how did someone know to send the "Doe" and the sword to the Forrest of Dean? Just a good guess? Also they way it was filmed was giving me a headache. When they are standing still or sitting and they are vibrating up and down because the camera was not steady was annoying. I felt I was watching an amateur film maker with a video camera on his shoulder. I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. Andie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Remember to snip unnecessary material from posts to which you're replying! Any questions or problems - contact the List Elves at HPforGrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 23 14:03:53 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:03:53 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00dc01cb8b17$455b9690$d012c3b0$@com> Thanks so much for sharing this!! I agree with you . I enjoyed all of that as well!!! Michelle From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Flowe Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:42 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-Movie] HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] * S P O I L E R S * S P O I L E R S * I was thrilled with DH Part 1!! I thought the acting and directing was excellent. I saw it at midnight on IMAX which was a blast because most people there were obsessive Potter fans; dressed up, excited, chanting, carrying on. Saw it again the next night w/my family. Having learned from prior disappointments, I try to go into HP films knowing that they will surely change some things from the book, but I have to say I felt that they stayed quite close to the text and I am grateful for the 5 hours that they are allotting to tell this final tale. Here are some of my favorite parts: - The tale of the 3 brothers; BRILLIANT the way they animated that...wow! - When Ginny asks Harry to zip her up. It's quite innocently sensual, the way he slowly zips her then puts his hand on her shoulder. It's their only scene together and yet it shows how intimate they've become since the last film. And then George walking in and smirking with the toothbrush in his ear, is a riotl! - Love the 7 Harry's scene and Fred (or George's) smart aleck remark to Mad Eye about the Goblin Piss! And Harry's lack of fashion sense, lol! - I like the part when Ron & Harry are sitting on the cot talking about Hermione. Ron says "How long you reckon she'll be mad at me?" and Harry replies "Just keep telling that story about the ball of light to your heart!" heehee! They've come a long way from their girl cluelessness in GOF! And when the new wand creates a ball of flame out of the jar...so funny! There are just so many subtleties that I love in this film: - When Ron touches Hermione's face in the cafe. - The way Lucius cringes when V snaps his wand, like he's going to curse him or something. V mocking his "My Lord". The look on Snape's face when the teacher is pleading with him. It says so much even tho he's trying so hard to remain completely impassive. - The torture scene between Bella & Hermione really makes me squirm...so evil!!! I liked the addition of "mudblood" dug into Hermione's arm. Apparently that was Helena's idea, ha! - Love how it shows all 3 of the trio taking turns at setting the protective charms around their campsite. They are all getting quite good at their 'craft'. - Love when Dobby keeps pushing Kreacher back while walking on the table, and then Kreacher is poking Mundungus, haha! They did an outstanding CG job on Kreacher...his mouth/teeth, loose skin...he looked so real! More real than Dobby, actually. - Love the way they ended Part 1. The final scene is so powerful. The ruthless way that V smashes D's tomb, then grins evilly as he takes the wand from him and raises it to the sky...shiver!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 23 16:40:37 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:40:37 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <948962b57aa345cb565279891c527012.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: Brian wrote: > In this one - Hermione explaining to Harry why her parents wouldn't miss > her. In fact the obliviate scene makes no sense to anyone who hadn't read > the books. I disagree, that scene was in the book and it would have made sense even if you hadn't read the book; I liked that part very much. However, even if you'd watched all 6 previous movies the day before, the bit about the broken mirror made absolutely no sense unless you read the book. Why on earth was Harry carrying around a sharp piece of glass, in his sock of all places? Wasn't that a bit unsafe given all the running around he was doing? And a nonreader would have no idea who Harry even thought he was talking to when he yelled "help us" into the shard much less know who he was really talking too. Then again maybe the movie makers were right, nearly everybody had read Harry Potter. > I think I'd have preferred a four hour film to an eight month wait. Given that Potter movies cost about 3 million dollars a minute to make you would expect a double admission charge for such a movie. Come to think of it, why is it customary for a low budget flop and a high budget hit to charge the same admission? John K Clark From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 23 17:22:53 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:22:53 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Andrea Grevera" wrote: > Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. I liked that part. >Mudblood branded on her arm? Nothing wrong with that, it was entirely true to the spirit of the book, in fact if its not actually in the book it certainly could have been. I don't remember, was it in the book? >If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show >Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. The thing I don't understand is if every second counts why do they waste 7 or 8 minutes on a seemingly endless closing credit roll that virtually nobody sits through? Without that there would have been more than enough time for both those two important scenes and probably a third. Classic movies of the past didn't have such ridiculously long credits, and there is less need for them now then there was then. If you absolutely must know who the third assistant caterer was for the second unit you can find it in seconds on the web. > Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru >the same forest the the trio apparates into? It may be blasphemous to say but actually I think that part was BETTER than the book; in the book it was all caused by Harry's slip of the tongue and that never felt quite right to me. It would have been even better if the snatchers were a result of a betrayal by Percy, but I guess that was too much to hope for. As Percy serves no purpose in the book I think we have seen the last of that character on the big screen. > I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass > on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. I hope WB makes a HUGE profit, they should be rewarded for making something that has given so many people so much pleasure, and I want to encourage others to make similar wonderful (and enormously expensive) entertainments. John K Clark From Meliss9900 at aol.com Tue Nov 23 18:10:21 2010 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Melissa) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:10:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD5950D39C9D85-10C0-116B@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> John K Clark tool pen...err... keyboard in hand and wrote: The thing I don't understand is if every second counts why do they waste 7 or 8 minutes on a seemingly endless closing credit roll that virtually nobody sits through? Without that there would have been more than enough time for both those two important scenes and probably a third. Classic movies of the past didn't have such ridiculously long credits, and there is less need for them now then there was then. If you absolutely must know who the third assistant caterer was for the second unit you can find it in seconds on the web. Because everyone who worked on this deserves to be acknowledged. Its hard to believe nowadays but many people do not have home computers or access to the internet (and my job would be so much easier if they did) AND many don't want home access. Classic movies may not have had long credits but they also didn't have all of the technical/computer advances of modern films. Melissa...who, with any luck, will see the film this weekend. -----Original Message----- From: johnkclark To: HPFGU-Movie Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 11:22 am Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 "Andrea Grevera" wrote: > Harry & Hermonie dancing in a test was a little too much for me. I liked that part. >Mudblood branded on her arm? Nothing wrong with that, it was entirely true to the spirit of the book, in fact if its not actually in the book it certainly could have been. I don't remember, was it in the book? >If they had so much time to waste they should have left the Dursley's in, or show >Harry finding the letter his mother wrote to Sirius. The thing I don't understand is if every second counts why do they waste 7 or 8 minutes on a seemingly endless closing credit roll that virtually nobody sits through? Without that there would have been more than enough time for both those two important scenes and probably a third. Classic movies of the past didn't have such ridiculously long credits, and there is less need for them now then there was then. If you absolutely must know who the third assistant caterer was for the second unit you can find it in seconds on the web. > Where did the snatchers come from anyway? They just happened to be walking thru >the same forest the the trio apparates into? It may be blasphemous to say but actually I think that part was BETTER than the book; in the book it was all caused by Harry's slip of the tongue and that never felt quite right to me. It would have been even better if the snatchers were a result of a betrayal by Percy, but I guess that was too much to hope for. As Percy serves no purpose in the book I think we have seen the last of that character on the big screen. > I'm too much of the book fan to really enjoy the movies. I think I'll pass > on part 2. No use in giving WB any more profit. I hope WB makes a HUGE profit, they should be rewarded for making something that has given so many people so much pleasure, and I want to encourage others to make similar wonderful (and enormously expensive) entertainments. John K Clark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 23 21:16:26 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:16:26 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <8CD5950D39C9D85-10C0-116B@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Melissa wrote: > "Because everyone who worked on this deserves to be acknowledged." So Melissa let me see if I have this right, you would prefer to have a super long credit roll rather than add a additional 2 possibly 3 otherwise missing subplots to a Potter movie?? Should they have done the same thing for the books and listed every technician who operated the printing presses and every waitress that served him when they went for lunch and every warehouse worker who shifted boxes of books? If the book got too big with all those credits they could have asked JKR to trim some subplots from her novel to make room for them. Does that sound like a good idea to you? >"Its hard to believe nowadays but many people do not have home computers or access to the internet" You're right, that is hard to believe. > "AND many don't want home access". And they don't want to go to the library AND they are still desperate to know who was the third assistant caterer for the second unit? I do not believe there are "many people" like that. Face it, its a ego thing, people just want to say their name was in a Harry Potter movie, so how about a compromise; just increase the rate the credits roll so they only take 15 seconds instead of 8 minutes. Nobody could read them but nobody reads them anyway and you could still say your name was in the movie and could even prove it if you carefully freeze framed the DVD. >"Classic movies may not have had long credits but they also didn't have all of the technical/computer advances of modern films". Even modern non special effects movies that consist of nothing but talking heads have endless credits, and this madness must end. John K Clark From Meliss9900 at aol.com Tue Nov 23 21:41:48 2010 From: Meliss9900 at aol.com (Meliss9900 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:41:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 Message-ID: <2572d.67234719.3a1d8f1c@aol.com> In a message dated 11/23/2010 3:16:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, eggplant107 at hotmail.com writes: >"Its hard to believe nowadays but many people do not have home computers or access to the internet" You're right, that is hard to believe. Well that's life in the real world. > "AND many don't want home access". And they don't want to go to the library AND they are still desperate to know who was the third assistant caterer for the second unit? I do not believe there are "many people" like that. ************ Exactly but there are, Lord knows I speak to a large number of them every week and life (and my job) would be easier if they DID have internet. Melissa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From shaun.hately at bigpond.com Tue Nov 23 22:41:13 2010 From: shaun.hately at bigpond.com (Shaun Hately) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:41:13 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CEC4309.1020503@bigpond.com> On 24/11/2010 4:22 AM, johnkclark wrote: > The thing I don't understand is if every second counts why do they waste > 7 or 8 minutes on a seemingly endless closing credit roll that virtually > nobody sits through? Without that there would have been more than enough > time for both those two important scenes and probably a third. Classic > movies of the past didn't have such ridiculously long credits, and there > is less need for them now then there was then. If you absolutely must > know who the third assistant caterer was for the second unit you can > find it in seconds on the web. For a start, the length of the credit roll really doesn't have much influence on anything else in the movie. A movie like Deathly Hallows costs somewhere on the order of $10,000 a second to make. That's why every second counts more than anything else. The credit section is much cheaper. Eight more minutes of film comes close to $5,000,000. Classic movies of the past generally didn't have long credits for two reasons - the first is that there were a lot less people working on them in most cases. The second is that a lot of the people working on them weren't given the respect their skills and/or hard work deserved. In modern film making when you are often contracted for single films at a time, rather than working full time for a studio and assigned to its films (as used to be much more standard) your list of credits is the way you get future jobs. If the studios didn't have to release a list of credits with the movie, many would never bother to release that information at all - requiring it to be on the end of the film guarantees they must release this information. These people work very hard to provide you with pleasure and enjoyment - they deserve to have that acknowledged, especially when it means a better chance of continued employment. It also comes down as being a matter of respect - by the stars and the producers, directors, etc, acknowledging that the thing that makes them a lot of money and makes them famous is a lot of work by a lot of people. And here they are. It's a matter of not pretending you did it all by yourself. From md at exit-reality.com Wed Nov 24 00:04:17 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:04:17 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <4CEC4309.1020503@bigpond.com> References: <4CEC4309.1020503@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <005e01cb8b6b$23d82340$6b8869c0$@com> Unions = Credits. Everyone in the film is in a Union which is why they are in credits. md From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaun Hately Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:41 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com For a start, the length of the credit roll really doesn't have much influence on anything else in the movie. A movie like Deathly Hallows costs somewhere on the order of $10,000 a second to make. That's why every second counts more than anything else. The credit section is much cheaper. Eight more minutes of film comes close to $5,000,000. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From wildirishrose at fiber.net Wed Nov 24 03:28:44 2010 From: wildirishrose at fiber.net (wildirishrose) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:28:44 -0700 Subject: HP 7 Spoilers Message-ID: Lupin putting Harry against the wall, insisting on him answering the right question. Lupin and Kingsley pointing wands at each other. I liked it. Loved the Ginny zipper part. I was thinking, oh dear, will this lead further than a kiss. Then George walks in. Cracked me up. I like Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent. I thought it was sweet. When Ron came back. Hermione was furious and I was expecting more then her just pushing him around. It didn't seem right. I would have liked to see her really be in a fury. I was waiting for Harry to do the Protego spell. That would have added to the scene. As for Mudblood carved/branded on Hermione's arm? Why not? After all, it was Bellatrix doing the torturing. In Bellatrix's opinion Hermione is a Mudblood. It's Bella's way of doing things. Causing as much pain and permenant damage as she can. Helena makes a very good Bellatrix. She can do the evil, slightly crazed, look about her very well. Bella torturing Hermione gave me the shivers. It sounded horrible. Howver, I was very disappointed at Ron's reaction in the basement/cellar. I was expecting far more emotion from him. After all, the lady he loves is being tortured and in the book he's desperate to get to her. I didn't get the impression in the movie. Charity Burbage hanging in the air. Dinner Nagini. There are no words that really describe my reaction to that scene. I know my eyes opened wide, and my jaw dropped a bit. Maybe the word is horrible? I don't mean horrible the way they filmed it. I mean horrible looking at it from an audience point of view. Love Kreacher and Dobby. They are just fun. I cried when Dobby died. I knew it was coming, but I cried anyway. I did like the Harry/Hermione taunting Ron scene. I thought it was so cruel. The Harry/Hermione kiss scene. So overated. I've read on the internet about how steamy this scene was. There was nothing to it. A few seconds and that's it. I was expecting so much more. And I thought Harry took Draco's wand by force. Not the expelliarmus spell. I'll be back to see it this weekend. If it gets warmer. If the blizzard conditions go away. If the wind stops blowing. If I feel the need to walk out of the house and freeze my nunny off in the teen tempatures. Marianne [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 04:50:27 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:50:27 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: <4CEC4309.1020503@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Shaun Hately wrote: > "For a start, the length of the credit roll really doesn't have much > influence on anything else in the movie. A movie like Deathly Hallows > costs somewhere on the order of $10,000 a second to make. That's why > every second counts more than anything else. The credit section is much > cheaper". It's cheaper but I don't know about much cheaper, some credits have elaborate special effects, effects nobody sees because the audience is already half way home by the time they hit the screen. Also the total length of the film, which includes credits, determines how many times it can be shown each day; and if its a long movie and you want to fit it on one DVD or Blue Ray disk the more video compression you'll have to use and the less clear it will be; that seems a very high price to pay for information that almost nobody wants and could be found on the web for the very very few that are interested. >"In modern film making when you are often contracted for single films at a time, rather than working full time for a studio and assigned to its films (as used to be much more standard) your list of credits is the way you get future jobs. If the studios didn't have to release a list of credits with the movie, many would never bother to release that information at all" Then lets compromise, keep the credits but speed them up so they run in 15 seconds rather than 8 minutes; they are already unread so a change to making them unreadable is virtually no change at all, and all concerned could still say their name was in the movie. > "These people work very hard to provide you with pleasure and enjoyment" And I'm sure the guy who ran the press that printed JKR's book worked very hard, but I really don't need to know his name. John K Clark From captainjackswomen at yahoo.com Wed Nov 24 02:53:15 2010 From: captainjackswomen at yahoo.com (Sparrows Lady) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: HP 7 part 1-spoiler warning In-Reply-To: <037d01cb8a81$4e692900$eb3b7b00$@com> Message-ID: <513789.72443.qm@web59805.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> *S *P *O *I *L *E *R Michelle: > I was looking forward to seeing Luna's room as well, and I > totally agree about the Dursleys in the beginning should have > been like the book. Red: I did miss Luna and wished she had more scenes. She's an adorable character; I fell in love with her in the books. I was disappointed at her lack of scenes. Love,Red From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Nov 24 06:59:35 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:59:35 -0000 Subject: Cynical Review of Harry Potter in General Message-ID: Every now and then someone comes up with a very cynical review of both the Harry Potter Book and Movie franchise. This is one of the most cynical I've read - http://www.theawl.com/2010/11/harry-potter-and-the-incredibly-conservative-aristocratic-childrens-club In all honesty, it seem clear that this person just don't get it. He/She is certainly free to hold that view, but I think very few fans would agree. Steve/bboyminn From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Nov 24 08:34:13 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:34:13 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 - End Credits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not all end credits go unread. There are a lot of people, though a minority, who wait until the credits end. I frequently stay to the end because the song and music credits are usually last in the sequence. Also, as a amateur (very very amateur) author, I'm always on the look out for cool character names, and movie credits are a good place for that. And some people just feel that those people work long and hard, and deserve some recognition, so they stay through the end credits out of respect for all the genius that goes into making a movie. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn From s_ings at yahoo.com Wed Nov 24 12:18:33 2010 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:18:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 - End Credits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <872733.12858.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> -- On Wed, 11/24/10, bboyminn wrote: > Not all end credits go unread. There > are a lot of people, though a minority, who wait until the > credits end. I frequently stay to the end because the song > and music credits are usually last in the sequence. > > Also, as a amateur (very very amateur) author, I'm always > on the look out for cool character names, and movie credits > are a good place for that. > > And some people just feel that those people work long and > hard, and deserve some recognition, so they stay through the > end credits out of respect for all the genius that goes into > making a movie. > Sheryll: I'm another who usually stays through the credits right to the end. Aside from being interested in the song/music credits, I am generally interested in finding out where the movie is filmed. Sometimes there are clues for that earlier in the end credits, like being able to recognise the nationality of local crew members from the last names on the screen. And, as perfectly stated above, there's the need to give that respect to those who worked hard to make the film possible. I almost always run a DVD through to the end and read the credits as well. Sheryll From ckc at rochester.rr.com Wed Nov 24 12:42:30 2010 From: ckc at rochester.rr.com (CK Campbell) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:42:30 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: <4CEC4309.1020503@bigpond.com> Message-ID: > Then lets compromise, keep the credits but speed them up so > they run in 15 seconds rather than 8 minutes; they are > already unread so a change to making them unreadable is > virtually no change at all, and all concerned could still say > their name was in the movie. I know lots of people who stay for the credits, and I know this because I'm one of them and I'm never the only one in the theater. There are some great things to be found in the credits -- no only names of songs or who sang them -- sometimes you get dedications, sometimes you see evidence of nepotism (when a Jr. appears with his father, for instance). These credits tell a story of their own. I find them fascinating. Also, it's my way of saying thank you to the people who worked on the movie. CK From taguem at jmsearch.com Wed Nov 24 14:38:30 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:38:30 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 - End Credits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019b01cb8be5$44068240$cc1386c0$@com> I agree with you Steve. As a person who works in a support staff role here in my office. I truly appreciate when I get the pats on the back for helping things run smoothly. Michelle From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bboyminn Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:34 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 - End Credits Not all end credits go unread. There are a lot of people, though a minority, who wait until the credits end. I frequently stay to the end because the song and music credits are usually last in the sequence. Also, as a amateur (very very amateur) author, I'm always on the look out for cool character names, and movie credits are a good place for that. And some people just feel that those people work long and hard, and deserve some recognition, so they stay through the end credits out of respect for all the genius that goes into making a movie. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Wed Nov 24 14:59:53 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:59:53 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cynical Review of Harry Potter in General In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01bd01cb8be8$4082d260$c1887720$@com> Wow. wow. talk about a really crazy perspective of how these books were written! From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bboyminn Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:00 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Cynical Review of Harry Potter in General Every now and then someone comes up with a very cynical review of both the Harry Potter Book and Movie franchise. This is one of the most cynical I've read - http://www.theawl.com/2010/11/harry-potter-and-the-incredibly-conservative-a ristocratic-childrens-club In all honesty, it seem clear that this person just don't get it. He/She is certainly free to hold that view, but I think very few fans would agree. Steve/bboyminn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 21:13:48 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:13:48 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "CK Campbell" wrote: > "I know lots of people who stay for the credits" Do you also know lots of people who would rather have the credits than 2 or maybe even 3 subplots that were in the book but not in the movie? > "I know this because I'm one of them and I'm never the only one in the theater". I only sat through the credits once and that was for Chamber Of Secrets because I heard there was one extra brief scene at the end of it. The theater was packed when the credits started and people looked at me funny when I stayed in my seat and they had to climb over me to get out; the ushers started to sweep up to get ready for the next show and even they looked at me funny. By the time the credits were over and the scene came up I was the only person in that huge theater. >"These credits tell a story of their own. I find them fascinating". Then look them up on IMDB.com, it will only take 2 seconds and will even give you the names of uncredited extras, assuming you think that's important and really want to know. From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 22:04:53 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:04:53 -0000 Subject: Cynical Review of Harry Potter in General In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "bboyminn" wrote: > Every now and then someone comes up with a very cynical review of both the Harry Potter Book and Movie franchise. According to this reviewer Rowling's books are "ferociously dull" and "long-winded" and "there is no suspense", how odd that despite these handicaps she became the first person in human history to become a billionaire from writing books. But its not really surprising when you think about it; put yourself in the reviewers place, you've written 2 books and gotten a few good reviews but neither has sold well so you can't quit your day job and your books are starting to go to the remainder pile in bookstores, just one step from the recycling pulp mill; meanwhile Rowling buys a castle in Scotland. And now you are asked to review Rowling's latest book. John K Clark From ckc at rochester.rr.com Wed Nov 24 22:48:19 2010 From: ckc at rochester.rr.com (CK Campbell) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:48:19 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You know, you could take away all those credits, and the people who make the movie will not make the movie 2-3 scenes longer no matter what. I don't know why you think they would. As for looking them up in imdb, not everyone has access to or desire to use a computer. It reminds me of newspaper articles that say "for more information visit [name of website]." The newspaper exists to give me that information; if wanted to visit the site, I wouldn't get the newspaper in the first place. I happen to enjoy those credits. In the theater. With the ushers sweeping up around me or not. CK From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 25 06:16:20 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:16:20 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "CK Campbell" wrote: > "You know, you could take away all those credits, and the people who make the > movie will not make the movie 2-3 scenes longer no matter what. I don't > know why you think they would." In most movies and in all the Potter movies except for the third there are scenes that were filmed but not put in the movie, not because the director thought they were bad but because he thought it would make the movie too long. All I can say is that you must really REALLY like the credits, I think they are about as interesting as reading the phone book and about as long. > "As for looking them up in imdb, not everyone has access to or desire to use > a computer." So the only purpose of those endless credits is to cater to those who don't want a internet connection AND don't want to visit a public library but DO have an overpowering urge to know what the name of the best boy on the second unit was. How many people on planet earth do you imagine fit that category, ten, twelve? And I don't even know what a "best boy" does, but I could find out in seconds on the internet if I was interested. I'm not. From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 26 04:35:08 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 04:35:08 -0000 Subject: A astounding new Daniel Radcliffe interview Message-ID: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a1c04ce68e/i-am-harry-potter From bboyminn at yahoo.com Fri Nov 26 17:33:38 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:33:38 -0000 Subject: Two Movies or One? You be the judge. Message-ID: Well, they have already decided to release the 7th book as two movies, so no need to discuss that particular aspect, but after seeing Part 1, and seeing how massively fast they ran through the book, I can't imagine what a disaster one book=one movie would have been. They are already cutting the story extremely thin, to cut it even further, down to one movie, would have been incomprehensible. Overall I was satisfied with the movie, and am considering going and seeing it for a third time this weekend. But I still have the standard gripes I have with every HP movie - - in most of the movie, the inclusion of a few of the deleted scenes would have made the movie make more sense, and would have only added about 10 minutes to the movie. The movies rarely end precisely on an even half hour, so extending the movie from 2hrs 20 minutes to 2 hours 30 minute would have made no difference at all to the external logistical consideration, but would have fleshed out the movie nicely. - carrying on with that thought, I lot of potentially emotional scenes and characters I would like to care about, are lost because they simply don't take the time to develop the scene or the character. I understand they are under time constraints, but in not developing these scenes and character, they are cutting the emotional heart out of the movies. - last, though not least, is the decision to alter the text to accomplish something, like the transfer of a piece of information, when the original text would have done just as well or better than the producer/directors alternate choice. In short, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Still, gripes aside, I'm not sure how well I would react if all these decisions were placed in my hands. It can't be easy, and I think at some point they are simply forced to make a decision and move forward. They are on a tight production schedule and can't afford to agonize over every little detail for weeks at a time. At some point, you simply have to move forward to stay on schedule. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn From CatMcNulty at comcast.net Fri Nov 26 20:11:40 2010 From: CatMcNulty at comcast.net (catmcnulty) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:11:40 -0000 Subject: A astounding new Daniel Radcliffe interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "johnkclark" wrote: > > > > http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a1c04ce68e/i-am-harry-potter > Cat says: THAT is soooo funny! ROFLMAO! Audience members often can't see past the character to the real actor within (THAT's the measure of a good actor!).... Dan is just making sport of the whole thing! It's great! From beatrice23 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 27 14:01:55 2010 From: beatrice23 at yahoo.com (Beatrice23) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:01:55 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: While I agree that credits are "as long as a phone book and as interesting." I do think that those involved deserve to be acknowledged, even if most viewers don't view/enjoy the credits. In my view, it isn't the credits that are really an issue to the "run time" of the film. The run time of the film actually includes the 20-30 minutes of previews at the beginning of the film. So if we are looking to make more room for more HP screen time, why not delete three to four of the tedious previews for films that nobody really wants to see. Seriously, there were about 10 previews before HP7.1 (no I didn't count, so if you did feel free to correct me) and not one of those films were anything that I would consider spending an $11 admission on. Or here's an idea if you have to have previews, why not run them in the half an hour before the film begins to give people who arrive early something to do other than find spelling errors on the "slide" adverts and trivia. My husband and I found at least 6. --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "CK Campbell" wrote: > > > You know, you could take away all those credits, and the people who make the > movie will not make the movie 2-3 scenes longer no matter what. I don't > know why you think they would. > > As for looking them up in imdb, not everyone has access to or desire to use > a computer. It reminds me of newspaper articles that say "for more > information visit [name of website]." The newspaper exists to give me that > information; if wanted to visit the site, I wouldn't get the newspaper in > the first place. > > I happen to enjoy those credits. In the theater. With the ushers sweeping > up around me or not. > > CK > From thedossetts at gmail.com Sat Nov 27 16:37:54 2010 From: thedossetts at gmail.com (rtbthw_mom) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:37:54 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Beatrice23" wrote: > > > While I agree that credits are "as long as a phone book and as interesting." I do think that those involved deserve to be acknowledged, even if most viewers don't view/enjoy the credits. > > In my view, it isn't the credits that are really an issue to the "run time" of the film. The run time of the film actually includes the 20-30 minutes of previews at the beginning of the film. So if we are looking to make more room for more HP screen time, why not delete three to four of the tedious previews for films that nobody really wants to see. Seriously, there were about 10 previews before HP7.1 (no I didn't count, so if you did feel free to correct me) and not one of those films were anything that I would consider spending an $11 admission on. Or here's an idea if you have to have previews, why not run them in the half an hour before the film begins to give people who arrive early something to do other than find spelling errors on the "slide" adverts and trivia. My husband and I found at least 6. > > > My husband and I also enjoy the credits - not for the credits, although it is interesting when I find out that some star I'm aware of has played a minor role and I didn't catch it while watching the movie - but for the music! However, I am extremely annoyed when the movie makers feel they will add just one last scene to the VERY end - coming after all those boring credits. If they're going to put that in, just put it in at the end of the stinkin' movie: I don't want to watch all those credits every time I watch the movie at home!! Of course, I'm also annoyed by all the previews in home videos. Can't they just put those in another category - "trailers" or "previews" or some such - and let me get right to the movie? But then, they don't ask me. I guess life's not supposed to be annoyance-free. Just my two cents worth. ~Pat From CatMcNulty at comcast.net Sat Nov 27 19:29:33 2010 From: CatMcNulty at comcast.net (catmcnulty) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:29:33 -0000 Subject: HP7-Spoilers- Continued from HPFGU Message-ID: To All: First of all, Sorry for not noticing and continuing the discussion on the wrong list! Cat > Cat: > > There is a moment that just haunts me, and I wonder why > > they left Mad-Eye's eye in Umbrage's door? I liked the book's > > solution and the honor with which Harry treated the moment. It > > was like what he did with Dobby. > > Patricia: > Mad-eye's eye was not left in the door after Harry visited > Umbridge's door, Harry took it with him in the book and in > the movie and left it in the woods were he buried it. That > is my take on this issue. Cat Says: I went to the show three times opening weekend and never saw him remove the eye from the door nor did I see any action that would have implyed that he got it. (I wish I had because that action reinforces the type of compassionate individual that Harry is) If I blinked and missed the moment, one would think that the film makers would have supported the VERY subtle movement of removing the eye by taking 5 seconds to show Harry looking at the eye and then burying it. (Even adding a "I'm Sorry, Good-bye and Thank You, Mad-Eye". There were plenty of moments when he was sitting alone guarding the tent ... even right before the Doe Patronus appears. OR Harry could be sitting contemplating the eye and he "hears" Mad-Eye saying "Constant Vigilance!" (Even a ghostly appearance thrown in). The the Doe Patronus appears. Harry hurriedly buries the eye where he had been sitting and the rushes after the Doe. I DO believe that it was an important moment that was ignored. That is MY take on it. Cat From sartoris22 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 27 19:49:32 2010 From: sartoris22 at yahoo.com (sartoris) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:49:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" Message-ID: <411070.34130.qm@web32907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Whenever I hear the trio talk about the end of the filming experience, they invariably mention missing the crew, which they always describe as a "family." Unfortunately, the average filmgoer has no idea about the environment and procedures of a film set. But I suspect that every person on set makes an important contribution and deserves to be included in the film credits ? sartoris22 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca Sat Nov 27 21:20:36 2010 From: doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca (June Ewing) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:20:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <473869.1341.qm@web113913.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Beatrice wrote: > While I agree that credits are "as long as a phone book and as interesting." I do think that those involved deserve to be acknowledged, even if most viewers don't view/enjoy the credits. > > In my view, it isn't the credits that are really an issue to the "run time" of the film. The run time of the film actually includes the 20-30 minutes of previews at the beginning of the film. So if we are looking to make more room for more HP screen time, why not delete three to four of the tedious previews for films that nobody really wants to see. > Pat: My husband and I also enjoy the credits - not for the credits, although it is interesting when I find out that some star I'm aware of has played a minor role and I didn't catch it while watching the movie - but for the music! However, I am extremely annoyed when the movie makers feel they will add just one last scene to the VERY end - coming after all those boring credits. If they're going to put that in, just put it in at the end of the stinkin' movie: I don't want to watch all those credits every time I watch the movie at home!! Of course, I'm also annoyed by all the previews in home videos. Can't they just put those in another category - "trailers" or "previews" or some such - and let me get right to the movie? But then, they don't ask me. I guess life's not supposed to be annoyance-free. < ? June: Actually Pat, you should be happy that they put all those trailers on your home videos because if they didn't it would cost a minimum of $100.00 to purchase a movie. They sell the spots on the videos so the moives can be sold at a cheaper price.? ? The reason they some times stick more movie after the credits is so people will sit and watch the credits. There are a lot of people involved in making a movie (not just the people we see on the screen) and it is all hard work so they want to make sure we know the people behind the scenes as well. It has always been that way, the only difference is that it is easier to read them now. In the 70's especially you had to study speed reading to read them LOL. ? From md at exit-reality.com Sat Nov 27 22:40:19 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:40:19 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: <473869.1341.qm@web113913.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <473869.1341.qm@web113913.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401cb8e84$11d1f1f0$3575d5d0$@com> Don't know where you heard that, but it's 100% incorrect. The trailers on dvd's are for films the company putting out the dvd will be releasing. When you watch the trailers on a harry potter disk, for example, they are all WB or an offshoot of trailers. I have plenty of dvd's without trailers as well. Something that cost, on average $1 / disk including packaging is not kept low in price because of trailers. 80% of the cost is in royalties and distribution, 10% is profit and the other 10% is the stores profit. md From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of June Ewing June: Actually Pat, you should be happy that they put all those trailers on your home videos because if they didn't it would cost a minimum of $100.00 to purchase a movie. They sell the spots on the videos so the moives can be sold at a cheaper price. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From anime_yaoi_lover_2007 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 28 01:36:41 2010 From: anime_yaoi_lover_2007 at yahoo.com (Strider S) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:36:41 -0000 Subject: HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] In-Reply-To: <00dc01cb8b17$455b9690$d012c3b0$@com> Message-ID: > * > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > S > * > Valerie: > > Here are some of my favorite parts: > - The tale of the 3 brothers; BRILLIANT the way they animated > that...wow! > > - When Ginny asks Harry to zip her up. It's quite innocently sensual, the way he slowly zips her then puts his hand on her shoulder. It's their only scene together and yet it shows how intimate they've become since the last film. And then George walking in and smirking with the toothbrush in his ear, is a riot! > > - Love the 7 Harry's scene and Fred (or George's) smart aleck remark to Mad Eye about the Goblin Piss! And Harry's lack of fashion sense, lol! > > - I like the part when Ron & Harry are sitting on the cot talking about Hermione. Ron says "How long you reckon she'll be mad at me?" and Harry replies "Just keep telling that story about the ball of light to your heart!" heehee! They've come a long way from their girl cluelessness in GOF! And when the new wand creates a ball of flame out of the jar...so funny! > > There are just so many subtleties that I love in this film: > - When Ron touches Hermione's face in the cafe. > > - The way Lucius cringes when V snaps his wand, like he's going to curse him or something. V mocking his "My Lord". The look on Snape's face when the teacher is pleading with him. It says so much even tho he's trying so hard to remain completely impassive. > > - The torture scene between Bella & Hermione really makes me > squirm...so evil!!! I liked the addition of "mudblood" dug into > Hermione's arm. Apparently that was Helena's idea, ha! > > - Love how it shows all 3 of the trio taking turns at setting the protective charms around their campsite. They are all getting quite good at their 'craft'. > > - Love when Dobby keeps pushing Kreacher back while walking on the table, and then Kreacher is poking Mundungus, haha! They did an outstanding CG job on Kreacher...his mouth/teeth, loose skin... he looked so real! More real than Dobby, actually. > > - Love the way they ended Part 1. The final scene is so powerful. The ruthless way that V smashes D's tomb, then grins evilly as he > takes the wand from him and raises it to the sky...shiver!! Strider S: Oh yeah you totally nailed I love that when Ron was being tortured by Voldemort's horcrux, the locket, how they showed his worst nightmare of Harry and Hermione making out that was a very good scene. Another one of my favorite scenes was when they showed Severus walking towards in the manor (I love how we got to see what's in the Malfoy Manor) but it seemed that he was "late" when in the book he was there. From rarpsl at optonline.net Sat Nov 27 22:47:03 2010 From: rarpsl at optonline.net (Robert A. Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:47:03 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 16:37 +0000 on 11/27/2010, rtbthw_mom wrote about [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits": >Of course, I'm also annoyed by all the previews in home videos. >Can't they just put those in another category - "trailers" or >"previews" Many DVDs DO. There are 2 or 3 trailers that play when you insert the DVD and a large number that are viewable via a link on the menu page. As to skipping to the movie, most DVDs will allow you to hit the menu button while viewing the initial previews (or at least allow you to fast forward or Next Chapter through them). From rarpsl at optonline.net Sat Nov 27 22:40:15 2010 From: rarpsl at optonline.net (Robert A. Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:40:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "CK Campbell" wrote: > I happen to enjoy those credits. I have seen a number of movies where the audience is "rewarded" for watching/sitting-through the credits by the inclusion of an extra scene. I have even seen these extra scenes embedded into the credits (ie: Part way through the credits, there is the extra scene). And then there are movies that run split-screen credits where the other half of the screen are out-takes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 28 17:16:11 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:16:11 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Beatrice23" wrote: > "While I agree that credits are "as long as a phone book and as interesting." I do think that those involved deserve to be acknowledged, even if most viewers don't view/enjoy the credits". Just the other day I was reading something about the 1978 movie "Superman", at the time it was one of the most expensive movies ever made, the credit sequence alone cost almost as much as it took to make an average big screen movie in 1978. That was nuts then and its even crazier now when anyone can get the full credits in seconds on their cell phone if they were interested; almost nobody is. > "In my view, it isn't the credits that are really an issue to the "run time" of the film. The run time of the film actually includes the 20-30 minutes of previews at the beginning of the film. So if we are looking to make more room for more HP screen time, why not delete three to four of the tedious previews for films that nobody really wants to see." Although not as dull as credits I admit there are far too many movie trailers, but at least I can see an economic justification for them, but there are only 2 reason inflated credit sequences exist, ego and inertia. As the name implies at one time movie trailers came after the END of the feature, the closing credits just took a few seconds so most people would stick around to watch the movie trailers. The practice ended when credits grew cancerously to gargantuous proportions and the movie makers knew the trailers would be playing to empty houses, so they moved the "trailers" to run BEFORE the start of the movie. From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 28 17:36:59 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:36:59 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: rtbthw_mom" wrote: >"it is interesting when I find out that some star I'm aware of has played a minor role and I didn't catch it while watching the movie" I enjoy that game too but it can be done much better on the web than reading the credits in a theater, for example I recently found an actor who played a pretty important part in the classic movie "A Christmas Story" also had a more minor part in the first Iron Man movie. From md at exit-reality.com Sun Nov 28 18:18:40 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:18:40 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801cb8f28$af7475a0$0e5d60e0$@com> The "credit sequence" you are referring to are the opening credits in Superman, not the scroll at the end. The opening credits are 7 minutes long and one long visual effect, iirc it's mostly footage originally shot for the baby's journey to earth. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnkclark Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:16 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" Just the other day I was reading something about the 1978 movie "Superman", at the time it was one of the most expensive movies ever made, the credit sequence alone cost almost as much as it took to make an average big screen movie in 1978. That was nuts then and its even crazier now when anyone can get the full credits in seconds on their cell phone if they were interested; almost nobody is. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thedossetts at gmail.com Sun Nov 28 19:10:52 2010 From: thedossetts at gmail.com (rtbthw_mom) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:10:52 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: <473869.1341.qm@web113913.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > > > Pat: > > > Of course, I'm also annoyed by all the previews in home videos. > Can't they just put those in another category - "trailers" or > "previews" or some such - and let me get right to the movie? But > then, they don't ask me. I guess life's not supposed to be > annoyance-free. < > > ? > June: > Actually Pat, you should be happy that they put all those trailers > on your home videos because if they didn't it would cost a minimum > of $100.00 to purchase a movie. They sell the spots on the videos > so the moives can be sold at a cheaper price.? > ? >Pat again: I really don't mind the trailers being there - I just object to being *forced* to watch them before the movie begins. I actually enjoy seeing them - would just prefer that they have their own tab on the menu page. But they don't make DVDs to please me! :o) > > > ? > From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 28 19:35:19 2010 From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (lizzie_mae_lilly) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:35:19 -0000 Subject: HP7 Pt1-The Pros [Caution: SPOILERS!] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Strider S" wrote: > > Oh yeah you totally nailed I love that when Ron was being tortured > by Voldemort's horcrux, the locket, how they showed his worst > nightmare of Harry and Hermione making out that was a very good > scene. Another one of my favorite scenes was when they showed > Severus walking towards in the manor (I love how we got to see > what's in the Malfoy Manor) but it seemed that he was "late" when > in the book he was there. > Well, no. Remember Yaxley and Snape meet at the beginning of "The Dark Lord Ascending" and walk together toward Malfoy Manor -- the white peacocks, etc. I hope you don't mind, but I won't bother quoting the 2 1/2 pages of their approach to the Dark Lord except for his comment: "Yaxley, Snape. You are very nearly late." So, IMO the movie's opening scene is pretty nearly accurate with the exception of Snape being alone. Lizzie From brian at rescueddoggies.com Sun Nov 28 15:17:12 2010 From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (brian at rescueddoggies.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:17:12 -0300 Subject: trailers on HP DVDs In-Reply-To: <1290955656.719.89040.m3@yahoogroups.com> References: <1290955656.719.89040.m3@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <72dd5ca2680abc20e879076afb7a0057.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> Being forced to watch trailers before the movie? Don't buy it, download it instead! I have to confess, I never downloaded a single movie before Warner Brother's contemptuous treatment of us fans with Half Blood Prince. I watched them in the cinemas then bought the DVDs (even though the companies nowadays are ripping us off by producing new versions with more features after we've bought the DVDs, so we have to buy them again and again). For me the Half Blood Prince broken promise was the last straw. I've never bought a DVD since and will only do so if I'm desperate and can't get something for free online. Brian From verosomm at yahoo.com Mon Nov 29 15:45:06 2010 From: verosomm at yahoo.com (VeronicaS) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:45:06 -0000 Subject: trailers on HP DVDs In-Reply-To: <72dd5ca2680abc20e879076afb7a0057.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, brian at ... wrote: > > Being forced to watch trailers before the movie? > > Don't buy it, download it instead! > > I have to confess, I never downloaded a single movie before Warner > Brother's contemptuous treatment of us fans with Half Blood Prince. > I watched them in the cinemas then bought the DVDs (even though the > companies nowadays are ripping us off by producing new versions with more > features after we've bought the DVDs, so we have to buy them again and > again). > > For me the Half Blood Prince broken promise was the last straw. > I've never bought a DVD since and will only do so if I'm desperate and > can't get something for free online. > > Brian Hey, Brian - I was not thrilled with the HP 6 movie either and will probably only buy it eventually to complete my collection. Just wondering what the "broken promise" was if it was something more specific than just making a sucky movie? I did a web search to no avail. Thanks! verosomm (always lurking, rarely posting) From taguem at jmsearch.com Mon Nov 29 18:05:04 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:05:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Two Movies or One? You be the judge. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003601cb8fef$f453a7f0$dcfaf7d0$@com> I totally agree with you Steve. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bboyminn Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:34 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Two Movies or One? You be the judge. Well, they have already decided to release the 7th book as two movies, so no need to discuss that particular aspect, but after seeing Part 1, and seeing how massively fast they ran through the book, I can't imagine what a disaster one book=one movie would have been. They are already cutting the story extremely thin, to cut it even further, down to one movie, would have been incomprehensible. Overall I was satisfied with the movie, and am considering going and seeing it for a third time this weekend. But I still have the standard gripes I have with every HP movie - - in most of the movie, the inclusion of a few of the deleted scenes would have made the movie make more sense, and would have only added about 10 minutes to the movie. The movies rarely end precisely on an even half hour, so extending the movie from 2hrs 20 minutes to 2 hours 30 minute would have made no difference at all to the external logistical consideration, but would have fleshed out the movie nicely. - carrying on with that thought, I lot of potentially emotional scenes and characters I would like to care about, are lost because they simply don't take the time to develop the scene or the character. I understand they are under time constraints, but in not developing these scenes and character, they are cutting the emotional heart out of the movies. - last, though not least, is the decision to alter the text to accomplish something, like the transfer of a piece of information, when the original text would have done just as well or better than the producer/directors alternate choice. In short, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Still, gripes aside, I'm not sure how well I would react if all these decisions were placed in my hands. It can't be easy, and I think at some point they are simply forced to make a decision and move forward. They are on a tight production schedule and can't afford to agonize over every little detail for weeks at a time. At some point, you simply have to move forward to stay on schedule. Just a few thoughts. Steve/bboyminn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca Mon Nov 29 18:44:15 2010 From: doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca (June Ewing) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:44:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <130916.50458.qm@web113906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >Pat again: > I really don't mind the trailers being there - I just object > to being *forced* to watch them before the movie begins. I > actually enjoy seeing them - would just prefer that they have > their own tab on the menu page. > > But they don't make DVDs to please me! :o) June: I have a button my my DVD remote that allows me to go straight to the menu and bypass the adverts. My DVD though (which also is a recorder) is very high-end so I guess it is possible that some don't have this feature. From doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca Mon Nov 29 18:27:12 2010 From: doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca (June Ewing) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:27:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: trailers on HP DVDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <719447.83284.qm@web113910.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Brian: > Being forced to watch trailers before the movie? > > Don't buy it, download it instead! > > I have to confess, I never downloaded a single movie before > Warner Brother's contemptuous treatment of us fans with Half > Blood Prince. I watched them in the cinemas then bought the > DVDs (even though the companies nowadays are ripping us off > by producing new versions with more features after we've > bought the DVDs, so we have to buy them again and again). > > For me the Half Blood Prince broken promise was the last > straw. I've never bought a DVD since and will only do so if > I'm desperate and can't get something for free online. June: Not only is downloading the movie illegal but it is also immoral. People who illegally download a movie (which these free downloads are illegal) are not only in danger of a fine and possible imprisonment but they make the prices for the movies go up for honest people who buy the movies. I do not respect you I am afraid for what you are doing Brian. From doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca Mon Nov 29 18:47:48 2010 From: doctorwhofan02 at yahoo.ca (June Ewing) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:47:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: <001801cb8f28$af7475a0$0e5d60e0$@com> Message-ID: <97003.9526.qm@web113911.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Eggplant107: > Just the other day I was reading something about the 1978 movie "Superman", at the time it was one of the most expensive movies ever made, the credit sequence alone cost almost as much as it took to make an average big screen movie in 1978. That was nuts then and its even crazier now when anyone can get the full credits in seconds on their cell phone if they were interested; almost nobody is. < June: Let's look at it this way. If you, yourself was involved in the production of a movie and worked hard on your craft to put the movie out (and believe me it is hard work) would you not like the recognition, or would you rather they ignored your work and act as if it didn't matter? From md at exit-reality.com Mon Nov 29 23:37:43 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:37:43 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Two Movies or One? You be the judge. In-Reply-To: <003601cb8fef$f453a7f0$dcfaf7d0$@com> References: <003601cb8fef$f453a7f0$dcfaf7d0$@com> Message-ID: <006901cb901e$6b7a0ad0$426e2070$@com> The question of film length comes down to two things, pre-screen audience reactions and the total amount of times each screen can run the film per day. Cutting ten minutes off the film may leave an extra 50 min per screen and allow the theater to run the film six times instead of five. The real issue most fans have in the end, is why the **** the complete films can't see a dvd/blu-ray release like lotr. md From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Tague Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 1:05 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Two Movies or One? You be the judge. I totally agree with you Steve. From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bboyminn Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:34 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com - in most of the movie, the inclusion of a few of the deleted scenes would have made the movie make more sense, and would have only added about 10 minutes to the movie. The movies rarely end precisely on an even half hour, so extending the movie from 2hrs 20 minutes to 2 hours 30 minute would have made no difference at all to the external logistical consideration, but would have fleshed out the movie nicely. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From omnidragon123 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 30 04:12:18 2010 From: omnidragon123 at yahoo.com (daniel whitman) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:12:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: trailers on HP DVDs In-Reply-To: <72dd5ca2680abc20e879076afb7a0057.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> References: <1290955656.719.89040.m3@yahoogroups.com> <72dd5ca2680abc20e879076afb7a0057.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> Message-ID: <722054.71880.qm@web44808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ? Brian: > Being forced to watch trailers before the movie? > > Don't buy it, download it instead! ? Daniel: The thing with download vs the dvd is with the download you don't get any of the bonus features. I always wonder why people are always saying don't get the DVD, download.? Well some of us like to see how they made the movie/cast interviews/deleted bits/ commentaries etc......................... From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 30 15:22:33 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:22:33 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014c01cb90a2$6cce9250$466bb6f0$@com> Kung Fu Panda is one of our favorite "added" scenes after the credits are done . From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:40 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com , "CK Campbell" wrote: > I happen to enjoy those credits. I have seen a number of movies where the audience is "rewarded" for watching/sitting-through the credits by the inclusion of an extra scene. I have even seen these extra scenes embedded into the credits (ie: Part way through the credits, there is the extra scene). And then there are movies that run split-screen credits where the other half of the screen are out-takes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 30 15:41:32 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:41:32 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trailers on HP DVDs In-Reply-To: <722054.71880.qm@web44808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1290955656.719.89040.m3@yahoogroups.com> <72dd5ca2680abc20e879076afb7a0057.squirrel@rescueddoggies.com> <722054.71880.qm@web44808.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016601cb90a5$10b23870$3216a950$@com> I know I do! I love the extra stuff! From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of daniel whitman Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:12 PM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: trailers on HP DVDs Brian: > Being forced to watch trailers before the movie? > > Don't buy it, download it instead! Daniel: The thing with download vs the dvd is with the download you don't get any of the bonus features. I always wonder why people are always saying don't get the DVD, download. Well some of us like to see how they made the movie/cast interviews/deleted bits/ commentaries etc......................... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From thedossetts at gmail.com Tue Nov 30 15:52:34 2010 From: thedossetts at gmail.com (rtbthw_mom) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:52:34 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: <014c01cb90a2$6cce9250$466bb6f0$@com> Message-ID: We just re-watched School of Rock. The most creative credits I think I've seen in a movie - and I don't mind watching those credits! ~Pat --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Michelle Tague" wrote: > > Kung Fu Panda is one of our favorite "added" scenes after the credits are > done . > > > > From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:40 PM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" > > > > > > --- In > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > , > "CK Campbell" wrote: > > > I happen to enjoy those credits. > > I have seen a number of movies where the audience is "rewarded" for > watching/sitting-through the credits by the inclusion of an extra > scene. I have even seen these extra scenes embedded into the credits > (ie: Part way through the credits, there is the extra scene). And > then there are movies that run split-screen credits where the other > half of the screen are out-takes. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > From eggplant107 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 30 17:43:57 2010 From: eggplant107 at hotmail.com (johnkclark) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:43:57 -0000 Subject: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: <97003.9526.qm@web113911.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: June Ewing wrote: > If you, yourself was involved in the >production of a movie and worked hard on your craft to put the > movie out [..] would you not like the recognition Well sure, but I haven't worked on the movie, nearly everybody who watches the movie hasn't, that's why most people find them dull and indulgent and walk out. From taguem at jmsearch.com Tue Nov 30 17:44:18 2010 From: taguem at jmsearch.com (Michelle Tague) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:44:18 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" In-Reply-To: References: <014c01cb90a2$6cce9250$466bb6f0$@com> Message-ID: <022701cb90b6$37f21250$a7d636f0$@com> I haven't seen that one yet. it's on my Netflix list. and now I will make a point to watch those credits ;-) Michelle From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rtbthw_mom Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:53 AM To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" We just re-watched School of Rock. The most creative credits I think I've seen in a movie - and I don't mind watching those credits! ~Pat --- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com , "Michelle Tague" wrote: > > Kung Fu Panda is one of our favorite "added" scenes after the credits are > done . > > > > From: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com ] On > Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:40 PM > To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Movie 7pt1: a new take on "credits" > > > > > > --- In > HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com > , > "CK Campbell" wrote: > > > I happen to enjoy those credits. > > I have seen a number of movies where the audience is "rewarded" for > watching/sitting-through the credits by the inclusion of an extra > scene. I have even seen these extra scenes embedded into the credits > (ie: Part way through the credits, there is the extra scene). And > then there are movies that run split-screen credits where the other > half of the screen are out-takes. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]