[HPFGU-Movie] Re: Part 2 on DVD this November

Tue Sep 27 17:27:07 UTC 2011

I agree with Michelle you are really good at saying it like it is and not offending others in the process! Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4GLTE

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From: Michelle Tague
Sent: 9/27/2011 2:11:15 PM
To: HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Part 2 on DVD this November
I always enjoy reading your posts Steve.

*Michelle *

*From:* HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Steve
*Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2011 3:39 PM
*To:* HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [HPFGU-Movie] Re: Part 2 on DVD this November

--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "lkotur" <lkotur at ...> wrote:
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> The final chapter was an Oreck, Hoover, and Bissel Big time!
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> lkotur
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Steve:

There is no denying that the movie, especially the ending was flawed. But
let's look at how and why it was flawed.

1.) First there are billions of dollars at stake here, even a delay of a
single day can have a monumental cost. That means that every decision
carries a heavy weight of responsibility. You simply can not agonize over
every little decision, at some point a given decision has to be made, and
then you have to move on. All I can say is, I'm glad I wasn't the person in
charge of making those decisions. It is easy for us to second guess the
producers and director after the fact, but when the weight of those
decisions is bearing down on you, they can't be easy to make.

2.) The second aspect is the producers & director's vision of the movie.
That is, in the broad and general sense of genre, how did they see the
movie? It seems clear they saw it as an Action/Adventure film. But I think
most viewers, especially those dissatisfied, would have preferred they saw
it as a Suspense/Thriller movie.

How they envisioned the movie colored their choices.

3.) I'm fond of saying - Time is the enemy that no one ever defeats. The
producer/director are in a constant race against time. They need to tell the
story, but they need to tell it within a certain acceptable time frame. That
means scenes that could have built suspense, viewer involvement, and
emotional investment, instead just fly by. They don't want to break the pace
of the film, but on the other hand, there are certain bits of information
that need to be included, so their hands are somewhat tied. The trick is to
get those bit of information in without breaking the pace, and that is not
an easy task.

While I accept the films for what they are, and I enjoyed them, I too can
see many flaws and baffling decisions.

SPOILER ALERT -

For example, Harry not repairing his original wand at the end I think was a
big mistake. On one hand, for the visual and story telling perspective of
the movie, it doesn't matter that much. But as an emotionally invested
reader and viewer, it matters to me.

I still am not sure exactly what killed Voldemort and feel that just a
second or two longer would have made it clear.

I was disappointed in the Molly/Bellatrix battle. In the books that was an
extremely powerful scene. Yet I suspect in the movies such a powerful scene
would have only distracted from Harry's story and the final show down.

Again, the list is long, but in the end, complain as we might, they are not
going to remake the movie. What we have is what we get. And to say that is
Sucked as a whole is a bit of an overstatement. Certainly it is flawed,
certainly I would not have made some of the decisions they made, but then
they aren't paying me millions of dollars to make those decisions. That
terrible weight and the expectations of countless millions do not fall on
me. Again, they are not in a position to agonize over every decision, they
need a starting vision, and from then on need to make decisions that support
that vision. Their vision was Action/Adventure, and they did their best to
support that vision.

The movies are what they are, and within the limits of what they are, I
enjoyed them. But within the limits of what they are not, I didn't enjoy
them quite as much. But I accept them.

There are some aspects that I was sure the simply couldn't do. I couldn't
see how they were going to resolve the problem of the Room of Requirements,
Snape's book, and the Diadem. I was sure they had painted themselves into a
corner and couldn't get out, but they managed to do it.

I thought the Tale of the Three Brothers was brilliant.

Again, I can find flaws that are nothing other than poor Director choice in
dependent of the story.

But, again, and finally, this is the movie was have, feel free to complain
and vent yourself, but in the end, this is still the movie we have.

I make a point of NOT reading the books before a movie comes out. If I do,
I'm too emotionally invested in the story as it plays out in the books, and
enjoy the movie that much less. I find it better if my memory of the books
is as lean as possible before watching a movie, that way the two conflict
much less in my brain, and I'm more satisifed with the movie. So for me,
first see the movie, then read the book. Though of course, by the time the
movie comes out I've read the book several times. But I try to NOT read it
near the time of the movie as it just creates too much emotional conflict.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn

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