Desparate Measures, Names, HP fonts...

Pam Hugonnet pbarhug at earthlink.net
Mon Aug 20 17:57:05 UTC 2001



Tabouli wrote:

> I'm starting to get a bit edgy having this suggestion of mine quoted:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Tabouli" <tabouli at u...> wrote:
> > Couldn't we have a more exclusive list where entry is by private
> email invitation only?
>
>

    Sorry : )  It was just that that suggestion reminded me of my sad
tale of Monkee-woe.


> Besides, the last three digests from the main list I've had today have
> been great: lots of interesting new ground covered, intriguing
> speculations, and so on.  Contrary to popular bale, I don't think
> we've even remotely exhausted the possibilities of dissecting hapless
> Harry yet... hey, given a bit more imagination and analycentricism (?)
> I'm sure we could spin him out until OoP.  People are still analysing
> *heaps* of books decades after the author has died.
>

You're fight.  I had virtually stopped reading the main list due to the
high volume of mail, mostly.  I would scan the threads and mostly read
replies from poster that I knew and felt might say something that would
be of interest to me.  I had also put a number of people in my kill
file, simply because, by history, I had found their comments not to my
taste (I was trying to find a nice way to say that: I don't think I
succeeded)   So I popped over after reading your post and there is some
good stuff going on over there.  I'll have to go back to reading again.


On the subject of names:

> What seems to happen in Australia is either immediate first name basis
> (which can be quite alarming for people from more formal societies,
> implying a non-existant intimacy, or disrespect, etc.), or
> title+surname for both sexes until one party invites the other to use
> his/her first name.  Where there is a large status difference (e.g.
> professor and undergraduate), the higher status person typically
> negotiates the names which will be used.
>

    This sounds pretty much like the American way, too.  I used to not
have a problem with being addressed by my first name, but as I have
grown older, I have begun to insist on a more formal mode of address
from strangers.  I also insist that my children call adults by
title+surname (which can be difficult because nobody around here seems
to have a consistent family name) and expect their friends to address me
as Mrs. Hugonnet.   I frequently find the reactions to varies along
ethnic lines:  African American children are much more likely to address
me either as Aunt Pam or Miss Pam; some of the white children are
mystified as to why I'm making a "big deal" over this.   A few of my
daughter's friends even call their parents by their first names
(*shudder*).  When I was teaching (graduate students in psychology),
they all called me Dr.; I found it a bit weird because as a undergrad
and grad student, we always called our professors by their first names.
So every time my students said "Dr. Barrigher" I wanted to look over my
shoulder for somebody else.   Interestingly though, in role plays were
the imagined patient was of a different ethnic status (ex. white
therapist, black, asian, latino client)  the therapists invariably
addressed the patient informally, but the therapist used a more formal
address with a client of same ethnic status.  This used to make for
rousing discussion as most were unaware of their behavior.



    Anybody know of a good source for HP fonts?  I tried once site to
get Lumos, but I can't get the font to work reliably in Word or at all
in WordPerfect.  Gotta make House Badges for the party guests.

drpam


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