Fanfiction and sex... slash vs. het
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Dec 15 17:45:34 UTC 2001
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> When het writers include steam, it's trashy romance. When
slash writers do it, it's erotica.
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>
> 1) Why do you think this double standard exists? Is it reflective
> of the quality of the writing or the maturity level/personal
squicks of the audience?
As far as I know there is very little commercial slash.
Commercial fiction with gay protagonists is generally aimed at
gay males, whereas I believe male/male slash fanfiction is read
largely by straight females (my information comes from Textual
Poachers, is it correct?)
I think the trashiness label carries over from the commercial
product. With slash the work isn't tainted by mass-marketing and
commerce, so it can more easily claim to be art. Hence the
erotica label.
The squick factor has to do with how much the reader identifies
with the characters. IMO, erotic situations can be rougher or
seedier or more casual in slash because the female reader is
distanced from the male characters and feels less vulnerable.
The level of explicitness can be raised because only male
bodies are described, so the female reader doesn't have the
feeling that her own body is exposed.
OTOH, slash can be even more gushingly romantic than het
stories. Let's face it, real guys, straight or not, are generally
eager to score. Since romantic fiction is more about longing than
it is about fulfillment, slash in which the characters are uncertain
about their orientation or afraid to reveal it gives the author
another excuse to keep the characters out of physical contact
and exchanging longing glances.
>
> 2) Is there a way to write het fanfiction, R or higher, that
escapes this stigma?
Find a publisher with the courage to print commercial slash and
at least everyone will be in the same boat? <g> But then, most
slash deals with characters who aren't gay in the original works,
and it's hard to see how the effect of that (oh, I'm not gay, I just
like to delete on Draco's expletive) could be carried over into
original fiction. In fan fiction the characters can carry on in this
unresolved way, whereas in real life or an independent fictional
universe they would either have to break up or start picking out
china.
> 3) In your opinion, should there even *be* NC-17 Harry Potter
> fanfiction, slash *or* het?
People are going to write it. And people are going to read it,
because it validates their feelings. (ooh, I'm not the only one
who's hot for Pigwidgeon, phew!) As an artist and critic, my
feeling is that a story should be set in a particular universe
because it could only happen in that universe. The reactions of
each character should be unique to that character. Since the
mechanics of arousal are pretty much the same for everybody,
(otherwise there couldn't be mass-market erotica/porn/romance
in the first place) the more explicit the writing becomes, the less
the characters and the setting matter. So why set the story in the
Potterverse at all? As a form of entertainment , of course it can
work, but the artistic level is dubious.
Pippin
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