From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 1 00:14:37 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:14:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Twinkies & also the REAL biscuit question In-Reply-To: <97jqmn+fhv7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Amy Z wrote: > > OK, I'm taking Twinkies, Bisquick, Reeses Cups to Neil. > Arggghhh...no, Neil, don't eat the Twinkies! Twinkies, I am > convinced, are the Stage One Invasion Force in the US plot to take > over the world. Intelligent people begin to eat them and the next > thing you know, the preservatives have pickled their brains and they > start to listen to muzak voluntarily. Soon they come to think that > Three's Company is funny. After that, we roll in the tanks and > formerly independent European populations just smile vacantly and say, > "Dja bring any more of them Twinkies?" *snerk* Ah, Twinkies... the food of the gods *g* Well, they have just about an eternal shelf life, at any rate. :) The icky thing about Twinkies, so rumor has it, is that they're not actually baked at all, but are produced in some sort of chemical reaction. (The skeptic in me doubts, but really... they are exceedingly unnatural.) And then there's the odd fascination people seem to have with trying to destroy them... there seems to be an entire subgenre of webpages devoted to the destruction of Twinkies in microwaves, open flames, water, dropping them off buildings... Some people have too much free time, I think. *g* A small Hostess snack-cake related anecdote: My first year of college, my Greek 101 class was meeting in the cafe in the student center. The teacher, like many of us, had purchased food beforehand. Now, what possessed her to do this, I'm not quite sure, but she'd bought a package of Hostess Snowballs -- the round chocolate cakes with cream filling, a marshmallow coating, and coconut shavings. Well, she didn't want them -- so she offered them to us. No one was really keen on eating the things (they're bright pink, did I mention?), and it wasn't long before someone got the bright idea of denuding one of its marshmallow coating. Indeed, it is removable and can basically be peeled off -- it's about half an inch thick and soon it lay there, helpless, a huge slab o' marshmallow, covered with pink coconut. There sat the chocolate cake part, mostly spherical and entirely without covering, and the whole effect was just, well, obscene... (Too old to play with food? Nah... *g*) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 00:21:00 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:21:00 -0000 Subject: Twinkies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97k4lc+gh2m@eGroups.com> > *snerk* Ah, Twinkies... the food of the gods *g* Well, they have just > about an eternal shelf life, at any rate. :) The icky thing about > Twinkies, so rumor has it, is that they're not actually baked at all, > but are produced in some sort of chemical reaction. (The skeptic in me > doubts, but really... they are exceedingly unnatural.) And then > there's the odd fascination people seem to have with trying to destroy > them... there seems to be an entire subgenre of webpages devoted to the > destruction of Twinkies in microwaves, open flames, water, dropping them > off buildings... Some people have too much free time, I think. *g* I love Twinkies, but in the interest of science, I am posting this URL for everyone to see what Jen is talking about in that last line... http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ I laugh, I cry, I swear it's funnier than the peeps page. Heather M. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 1 00:24:35 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:24:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Twinkies In-Reply-To: <97k4lc+gh2m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > I love Twinkies, but in the interest of science, I am posting this > URL for everyone to see what Jen is talking about in that last line... > > http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ Oh, yes, I should have included that -- thanks! :) > I laugh, I cry, I swear it's funnier than the peeps page. Ah, the Peeps page!! Maybe you should take Neil some Peeps too -- whatever would the Easter season be without marshmallow chickens?? *g* --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 1 00:59:41 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:59:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Choc Chip manufacturers In-Reply-To: <97jenr+cv1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Amy Z wrote: > Oh, you poor thing--you live in New Jersey and you still can't get > Hershey's chocolate chips?* They are far superior to Nestle's, IMO. > (I go for the milk chocolate, not the semisweet.) Hmm, now I do think I may have seen the Hershey's milk chocolate chips, but I would've sworn the only semi-sweet ones are the Toll House. I'll have to check when I go to the store tonight. (Yes, I give in. I'm baking cookies (peanut butter chocolate chip, mmm). *g*) Not that I would buy any other kind -- Toll House is for me *the* chocolate chip brand (I don't like milk chocolate, particularly, too sweet). > *Hershey's is headquartered in Pennsylvania, not far from where Jen > lives And yet I've never been there... I have however been to the Crayola factory, which is also in Pennsylvania -- quite fun to visit. And it smells like crayons, mmm... When I was a small child, I always wanted to go to Sesame Place (the Sesame Street theme park), also in Pennsylvania (there is a theme here!)... and no one ever took me. We'd *pass* the exit on the Penna Turnpike for it, whenever we'd drive to my grandparents'... such torture. Poor, poor me. So deprived. :) --jen, thinking it's a good thing this is the OT list :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 1 01:07:24 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:07:24 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Twinkies In-Reply-To: <97k4lc+gh2m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ This site made me sick from laughing. Civilization and scientific progress at its peak! SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: aichambaye at yahoo.com [mailto:aichambaye at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:21 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Twinkies I love Twinkies, but in the interest of science, I am posting this URL for everyone to see what Jen is talking about in that last line... http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ I laugh, I cry, I swear it's funnier than the peeps page. Heather M. From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Thu Mar 1 01:40:55 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:40:55 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Choc Chip manufacturers Message-ID: <29.1121a18d.27cf02a7@aol.com> :::hangs head in shame::: I know I am a bad girl ... I like Ghiradelli chocolate chips (preferably milk chocolate) but I like Hershey's and Nestle's too. And I know the URL for the chocolate faq: http://www.choco.com/faq.html (token sort of on-topic reference, even though I think maybe I don't have to have one here): I'm so glad chocolate is a cure for depression in the HP books! Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 01:42:54 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 01:42:54 -0000 Subject: Twinkies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97k9eu+ulfl@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > > http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ > > This site made me sick from laughing. Civilization and scientific progress > at its peak! > > SML > > ============================================== > "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth > gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. > "Harry, Harry, Harry." > > Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. > ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets > ============================================== I _know_! I love that page. My hubs is a physicist and he laughed like anything because they'd set it up as a real experiement. I have it saved, because every few months I can read it again and laugh til I cry. Heather M. From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 01:45:23 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:45:23 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Chocolate bath References: <97jenr+cv1@eGroups.com> <019101c0a1d3$05db3f80$b7e2fea9@computer> <006c01c0a1d0$70ac8d80$8614a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3A9DA9B3.627FC98D@texas.net> An Oreo cookie can cover a surprising square footage, too. --Amanda (been there, worn that) Doreen wrote: > If you can not afford the chocolate bath, give a two year > old a candy bar and let him eat it, while he is sitting on > your lap. A chocolate sponge bath? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shades_of_black at mail.com Thu Mar 1 01:48:31 2001 From: shades_of_black at mail.com (Morsus Crustum) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:48:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <385160605.983411311127.JavaMail.root@web149-mc> *big eyes* Riiight. I'm totally lost. Chocolate? It's wonderful. Why are we discussing food, of all things? Just curious. Oh, and Heidi - that last e-mail was really weird...the lawyer thing at the bottom....strange.... ======== Morsus "Can't Touch This" Crustum *dry laugh* [get it? MC?] "I'll cabel Hitler and tell him to shoot around you." ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 01:48:57 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:48:57 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees References: <97jtg2+7srq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3A9DAA89.F823B026@texas.net> Trina wrote: > Buttermilk is what's leftover after churning the cream to make > butter. It can also be "made" with additives/bacteria to sweet milk. White vinegar added to whole milk is a good working substitute for buttermilk, and saves you having to actually buy the stuff for one recipe. If anyone's interested, I'll find the proportion (I always use milk soured with vinegar in my mom's old pound cake recipe). > Personally, I find buttermilk disgusting, although my dad has been > known to drink it. My dad liked it too, but I place being forced to drink buttermilk in my childhood right up there with being raised in a cabinet. > As for "buttermilk pop" I have *no* idea! I don't even want to go there. Conjecture is truly awful. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 01:53:35 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:53:35 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Enough already with the food.... okay then, just a wafer thin mint References: <97jqmn+fhv7@eGroups.com> <00a201c0a1ce$985c61e0$443770c2@c5s910j> <028a01c0a1d9$daa07d60$565c063e@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <3A9DAB9E.231711EC@texas.net> Michelle Apostolides wrote: > British chololate isn't that great > > (compared to Belgian or Swiss), > > tried Green and Black's Organic Milk ? York chocolate oranges are the pinnacle of the chocolatier's art. So there. --Amanda From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 02:01:30 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:30 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food! References: Message-ID: <3A9DAD7A.84603B9B@texas.net> Simon wrote: > em to have volunteered to cook pizzas for about 15 people next > Wednesday. How do I manage it? Well, my father wrote a very chatty-style cooking guide for Tex-Mex, when a good friend moved to Michigan...I can send you a copy of that, but no help with the pizza. Sorry. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 02:11:30 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:11:30 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Biscuits... close to the truth? References: <97jqmn+fhv7@eGroups.com> <00a201c0a1ce$985c61e0$443770c2@c5s910j> <000501c0a1d6$34e6fb40$8614a3d1@doreen> <00de01c0a1d5$46ff0d00$443770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <3A9DAFD1.B2CC1238@texas.net> Neil Ward wrote: > Okay, we're getting close here. If Bisquick can be used to make > pancakes or biscuits, that means it's a batter base, and that biscuits > are much like a firm batter pudding, cut into chunks. In other words, > we may be talking about something like a cross between short pastry, > scones and Yorkshire Pudding. Are biscuits crunchy, chewy, flaky or > crumbly? All of the above, depending on your recipe. Biscuit dough is usually rolled out and cut out with a round cookie cutter, what, 2 inches or so in diameter. They are considered a bread--some restaurants I know give you a choice of a biscuit or a roll with your entree--but they aren't a yeast bread, you don't have to wait for them to rise (which is probably why they became associated with breakfast, since you could make them fresh quickly). The baking powder (powder, right? or soda? whatever) is what makes them rise, in the baking. They come out about an inch or so thick, and tend to flake horizontally (depending on how well you kneaded your dough and how many times you folded it over). The outside is golden-brown, and should be crispy; the inside can be on the chewy side, but crumbly biscuits have too much flour in the mix. My dad always made his from scratch (upon reflection as an adult and a parent, I'm amazed at how many times he conceded to make teeny little 3/4-inch diameter biscuits, and pancakes shaped like letters, for me), but I've no idea if he ever wrote his recipe down. For a native Texan, it tended to be one of those things you just know how to do. Oh, and Bisquick is pretty close to scratch. But does it bother no one that the shelf life of Bisquick is up there with Twinkies? Did I help any? --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 1 02:43:04 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:43:04 -0700 Subject: Strawberry Pop Tart Blowtorch Project Message-ID: Let's not forget the real milestone in Internet Culinary History, the Strawberry Pop Tart Blowtorch Project: http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/toast/ Be sure to read the follow-up letters at the bottom, they're just as priceless. Oh, think where the human race could be if we only devoted all this energy to noble causes.... SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== From ReinaKata02 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 02:46:08 2001 From: ReinaKata02 at yahoo.com (Kaitlin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 02:46:08 -0000 Subject: new members.... Message-ID: <97kd5g+7c7b@eGroups.com> For those who just joined recently...please help me out and read message 84!!! Kaitlin From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 1 02:47:20 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:47:20 -0700 Subject: Elephant Stew Recipe Message-ID: Elephant Stew Ingredients: 4 bushels carrots 25 stalks celery 5 bushels potatoes 2 bushels onions 1 ripe elephant (medium-sized) Instructions: Cut elephant into bite-size pieces (takes about 2 months). Fry in fat until brown. Put in large kettle with other ingredients. Add enough brown gravy to cover. Cook over open fire in pot for approx 4 weeks at 465 degrees F. Serves 3,800 people. If more are expected, 2 rabbits may be added, but do this only if needed. Most people do not like to find hare in their stew. ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 02:56:17 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:56:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees In-Reply-To: <97jtg2+7srq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010301025617.28889.qmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> --- Trina wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... > wrote: > > No, I'm not referring to mixing the two! > > What excactly is buttermilk? Is it a close > relation of sourmilk? > > The only thing I ever heard of buttermilk was in > radio on a Sunday > in Kentucky - some bloke talking about "buttermilk > pop", apparently > one of his most traumatizing childhood-memories. > > Buttermilk is what's leftover after churning the > cream to make > butter. It can also be "made" with > additives/bacteria to sweet > milk. Personally, I find buttermilk disgusting, > although my dad has > been known to drink it. Mostly, though, people use > it to cook with-- > buttermilk pancakes, cornbread, etc. > You forgot the most important - buttermilk fudge! Andy (my husband - chief cook here) makes the most amazingly delicious and addictive buttermilk fudge you've ever tasted. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 05:08:54 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:08:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:biscuits... References: <97ju7k+aih5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <01d501c0a20d$b76b21e0$b7e2fea9@computer> Send me the recipe too, or else post it here? I run an "eats" club, and collect recipes to post there, with proper credit to the creator, when know, of course! ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Enough already with the food.... okay then, just a wafer thin mint > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > > > I seem to be posting loads about food and stuff and not much > about Harry > > Potter. I guess it takes less brain power! Maybe I need a > Twinkie. Maybe > > I need a Twink.. ;-) > (Snip) > > > Not that you've > > mentioned them, but I tried Hershy bars when I was in Washington > and thought > > they tasted horrible - really sweet. British chololate isn't that > great > > (compared to Belgian or Swiss), but the American stuff is worse... > unless I > > picked the wrong things. Now is Bisquick like Nesquick, I wonder? > A sort > > of powder you make into a milky drink? Twinkies - I'm not sure, I > may have > > eaten one (that explains my behaviour). I'm curious... > > Hershey's makes a Dark, bittersweet chocolate bar (hard as the devil > to find) that I much prefer to American milk chocolate. It's more > like European chocolate (OK, I *know* I'm a snob about chocolate ) > Bisquick is a mix which contains all the ingredients (except liquid) > to make biscuits, pancakes, that sort of thing. I don't use it--I > make my biscuits from scratch (as we say here in the South). > > > > < Brits call > > the things we call biscuits? Don't say scones--they're yummy, but > they're > > not the same thing. Maybe you just don't eat them?>> > > > > > > I'm still not sure what they are, so it's safe to say we don't have > them. > > The only thing I can think of that might be similar is dumplings, > but I > > seriously doubt they are the same. Dumplings are great though - > really > > fluffy suet balls that are crunchy on top and served with stew (and > gravy). > > Tell me exactly what biscuits are in the minutest detail and I may > be able > > to solve the mystery . > > I will be more than delighted to send you my biscuit recipe off-list, > Neil. I make them from scratch & they are delicious. Parker > > > > > Neil > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > flying_ford_anglia > > > > "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, > > was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint > > of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] > > > > Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything > > to do with this club: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 05:43:10 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:43:10 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Enough already with the food.... okay then, just a wafer thin mint References: <97jqmn+fhv7@eGroups.com> <00a201c0a1ce$985c61e0$443770c2@c5s910j> <028a01c0a1d9$daa07d60$565c063e@tmeltcds> <3A9DAB9E.231711EC@texas.net> Message-ID: <020f01c0a212$80cfffc0$b7e2fea9@computer> WOW! Nuts on food, eh? I buy both a chocolate orange (the sectioned one, for the life of me cannot recall the maker, Toblett or something?) and a chocolate raspberry when I see them. Yummmmmmm. I'm seen the orange in both bitter-sweet and milk. Neil, sweetie, those <> are called Reeses' Pieces. ET loved them! (I am a candy-a-holic, lol) Hmm. As for the person who claims fluffy golden brown biscuits, well, I think I'm in trouble. Mine are a nice shade of dark brown-black on the outside, but the center is flaky? I also use Grands! :) I adore Crescent rolls, though--they make the best biscuits for my son and I. Of course, we make weenie-winks with them, too! (Hotdogs, cheese and crescent rolls for those who are like, Huh?) My mother used to tease me horridly for my Easter Peep addiction, and for years (like 30, lol) I lamented the fact that they didn't come in purple. Heehee! They must have been listening! :) (Buttermilk, shudders... Grandma drank it for her ulcer) More seriously, on biscuits, Mom used to cut hers (Bisquick, ,lol!) out with an upside down drinking glass to get that perfect round shape, until she finally gave up, and just created mountains. Gravy? White gravy to me is used on Country-fried steak (while I use a beef gravy on the instant potatoes!). Flour, water, butter, and flavoring, if IRC. No, not a cook. Just a founder of a cooking club, but not a cook. I nuke though? The best way to eat Girl Scout cookies--frozen for 24 hours, then dip them quickly in a glass of milk so that the milk freezes on the frozen wafer. Other of my favorites: Jordan Almonds. (Yes, allergic to nuts, but still, yummmm) Toffay (Carmel, hazelnut and a drop of chocolate on top).BROWNIES! Of course, we lived only blocks from Hostess, lol... A thug-friend of mine one night, while I was sleeping, prego, decided that rather than watch the superbowl, he'd pedal by the Hostess shipping bay, where he found someone had forgotten the garage door was up. He decided to take a case (only about 3 meters high (one yardstick), and at least two feet wide. He placed it on the bike's handle bars, and biked back home through the snow. He then proceeded to hand out these lil Debbie style brownies (Hostess must make them too?) to all his friends. I had been craving them all throughout my pregnancy, and I worked with him at Wendy's, so he brought me two packs. I didn't know the orgins until too late though. Should you approach Tedd today, 4 years later, and offer him a brownie, he turns green. He ate too many. lol. Other favorites. Puppy ice cream (Eddys Dalmation). Godiva. (Grins ... ah, now that's chocolate!).... There's alot more, but you're rather bored after reading all this, really, aren't you? Final grin! Dee From nlpnt at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 06:03:03 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:03:03 -0000 Subject: Car trunks, was Re: Bonnets & boots In-Reply-To: <00c101c0a1d3$144aed40$443770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97komn+c9g5@eGroups.com> > Amanda Lewanski commented: > > << bonnets and car boots. Seems like the British "dress" their cars, and our > terms put them more as utilitarian conveyances--hood and trunk. Anyone know > how this particular difference originated? The term "trunk" came about because, originally, it was just that- a steamer trunk strapped to a rack on the back of the car (not supplied with the car). As the car caught on, many companies started making accessories for it, including special car trunks which bypassed the rack and were bolted directly to the car. By the late '20s, auto manufacturers everywhere discovered the profits in selling "genuine" accessories through their dealers' parts departments; with the Art Deco movement came stylized bolt-on trunks that were designed for a specific model of car. The next step, cars with designed-in trunks, came in the mid-30s; they were first offered alongside traditional, trunkless sedans and immediately outsold them; by the start of WWII most auto mfrs. worldwide had dropped trunkless models. The next step, hatchbacks, were pioneered in the late '40s, caught on big in the '70s/early '80s, and are now the most popular bodystyle in Europe and poised for a comeback in America. ---Noel, resident gearhead From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 06:08:32 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:08:32 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Enough already with the food.... okay then, just a wafer thin mint References: Message-ID: <001401c0a216$0ca39040$5814a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tandy, Heidi To: 'HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com' Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Enough already with the food.... okay then, just a wafer thin mint I am at the local gourmet grocery - about to buy a cadbury fudge, and my true sweet faves-a curly whirly, crunchie and flake The first candy bar I ver had in the uk was a flake, at 14,while jetlagged-it made me feel ALL better. -------------------------- Sent from heidi tandy' s BlackBerry Wireless Handheld ok, I will ask .. what the heck are a curly whirly, a crunchie and a flake? Doreen who was married to a flake ... is that the same thing? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Thu Mar 1 06:01:22 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:01:22 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Breakfast and foot and mouth... References: Message-ID: <003a01c0a215$271d04c0$683770c2@c5s910j> Simon wrote: <> I could have written that. The difference would be that I consume a flagon of very strong cafetiere coffee as soon as I get in the door of my office and you probably infuse a strong cup of leaf tea at the earliest opportunity. A fry up is a rare luxury these days - always great in a local caff after a night on the pi.... er, at a party, with some mates. If I eat anything, it's cereal or toast or something Continental. <> You are destined to become a celebrity chef, Simon. <> It's horrible and it's having an impact everywhere. Earlier this week I had to take two Americans and a Dutchman for lunch (for some reason that sounds like it was a challenge someone had set me). One of them asked about foot and mouth and the risks and we discussed it for a while. I didn't twig at the time, but all three then ordered vegetarian meals and said how nice they were. These are people who, I imagine, would normally go for something more carnivorous than linguine with roasted vegenetables and pine nuts. My other story sounds quite comical, but it's not. The bloke who does my accounts also does the accounts for a man who set up a business distributing sausage skins (as Bill put it - "He's a sausage skin broker"). The earlier BSE scare had really affected business for this man, as demand dropped off dramatically. The foot and mouth scare has finished him off. Bill rang him while he was at my office and he was, apparently, in tears: his business, that once had a turnover of 625,000, is finished. Apologies for being so morose... Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm > Also I may have to become a vegetarian for a while. I am not sure I will > cope! Or at least I will have to expand my limited vegetarian recipes > collection. > > > Simon > -- > "We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to > discuss it with the employees." - Switching Supervisor, AT&T Long Lines > Division > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 07:02:52 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:02:52 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Car trunks, was Re: Bonnets & boots References: <97komn+c9g5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00d601c0a21d$a3523940$5814a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: nlpnt at yahoo.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Car trunks, was Re: Bonnets & boots > Amanda Lewanski commented: > > << bonnets and car boots. Seems like the British "dress" their cars, and our > terms put them more as utilitarian conveyances--hood and trunk. Oh, but don't forget about the new car "bras". *snicker* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also the potential for flaming is low, unless we're talking about Dee's biscuits. I enjoy hearing about other countries too: Christian's Norwegian angle on things, for example, is always interesting (even when covering train fittings!). Both topics usually arise from confusion about something in one of the HP books, but in this group, we are taking it to another level. I'm reminded that we need to put up a list of borderline HP-related topics that should be discussed here (there is one, actually - it includes things like "my HP merchandise collection"). I imagine we will move on to other things. However, we are for now, officially, "The Stepford Wives on Acid". Neil I will also note, in Moderator tone, that we should only skip the OT section of the netiquette file.. ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 07:48:04 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:48:04 -0000 Subject: Catching up on past messages...Neil and the Lemonheads In-Reply-To: <00a601c0a063$d7d46000$5f3670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97kurk+lsqh@eGroups.com> Just got around to joining the ot list, and boy, I haven't laughed this hard in ages. My husband is looking at me funny (funnily?), but it doesn't matter. I swear, this group is a cure for the common chronic depression (okay, a temporary one, but I'll just have to come here more often). I didn't see any responses to this, so I'm going to have to revert back to my good ol' non-lurking yahooclubs personae (sp?) and point this out... Neil said: > Y' got me! I *am* a serial killer, but I'd be happy to take the > evening off for the chance to taste a Lemonhead. > What made this rotflmao funny is the fact that just a couple of messages prior to this one, Neil, you were talking about the band, so all I could picture was you (snapeified) licking a guy on stage in front of a microphone. ;) Jen (who prefers lemon drops to lemonheads, as they tend not to give me instant toothaches) From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 08:11:56 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:11:56 -0600 Subject: OT and OTW Message-ID: <012101c0a227$496a4760$5814a3d1@doreen> This is not only off the wall, but driving me UP the wall! I was Windows shopping at the Hallmark website, looking at the HP Golden Snitch reading lamp, and got thinking, "Snitch .. hmmm Snitch... sneetch ... what the heck is a sneetch and where have I heard it, read it, before?" That was much earlier today and I still have come up blank. Can anyone help me here? Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 09:12:40 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:12:40 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Breakfast and foot and mouth... In-Reply-To: <003a01c0a215$271d04c0$683770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: Simon wrote: <> Neil replied: <<>> Have got my mug of tea (Assam tips) with me as I type this. It is quite rare for me to have a cup of tea so early in the day. I normally wait until mid morning, preferring to drink water instead. Amanda: "Well, my father wrote a very chatty-style cooking guide for Tex-Mex, when a good friend moved to Michigan...I can send you a copy of that, but no help with the pizza." Yes please. Me: <> Neil: <<>> Starting slightly flippantly - how were the Americans and Dutchman? So you are happy to eat people but not meat? ;)'s at Neil. Having been worried about how long the outbreak lasted in '67 I looked into some more details of the outbreak and was even more concerned. In '67 F&M was confined to 4 counties (Cheshire, Stafford, Shropshire and a bit of North Wales that borders onto those already mentioned). This time we have already had cases from Northumberland, Devon, Essex and Anglesey (For those unsure of where these places are in the UK we are talking about the northern most part of England and nearly the furthest south west & south east you can go in England). It is also believed to have spread to Ireland (both bits), but at this moment this is unconfirmed. Simon -- "When you don't know what to do, get moving. Make a mistake if you must; just move! If you make a mistake you can correct it, but you'll never get anywhere if you don't start." Arikan - Emerald House Rising by Peg Kerr --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 10:10:37 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Elephant Stew Recipe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010301101037.42066.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> i found this recipes in a south african cookbook that a friend lent my mum the other day. where the hell did you find it? --- Sister Mary Lunatic wrote:
Elephant Stew

Ingredients:
4 bushels carrots
25 stalks celery
5 bushels potatoes
2 bushels onions
1 ripe elephant (medium-sized)

Instructions:
Cut elephant into bite-size pieces
(takes about 2 months).
Fry in fat until brown.
Put in large kettle with other ingredients.
Add enough brown gravy to cover.
Cook over open fire in pot for approx 4 weeks at 465 degrees F.

Serves 3,800 people. If more are expected, 2 rabbits may be added, but do
this only if needed. Most people do not like to find hare in their stew.



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Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 10:34:21 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97jvld+2jo6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010301103421.31878.qmail@web12815.mail.yahoo.com> well for what its worth i always pictured the hogwarts express as one of the old fashionned first class carriages that you don't tend to see too often on the british rail networks anymore. you still get the occasional carriage like that on a train on the less busy lines. i remember them better from when i was young - small corridor that runs down one side with sliding glass doors and windows into little booths. they had racks over top of the seating, plush bench seats on each side. a tiny little table at the end by the windows. good for privacy and for containing screaming children. bad if some dirty old pervert came and sat in there with you. and someone had always slashed the seats up. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From yael_pou at hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:52:21 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:52:21 +0200 Subject: why all the food talk References: <385160605.983411311127.JavaMail.root@web149-mc> Message-ID: Well, I for one am very glad about all the food talk. It is very interesting for me as a non-Brit non-US citizen. It also saves me *a lot* of research time for my writing. So... thanks and do go on... I do hope we'll reach school schedule, housing, travelling (beside railroads), entertainment, jewellery and other issues that will save me the research... :) yael ----- Original Message ----- From: Morsus Crustum To: 'HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com' Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:48 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] (unknown) *big eyes* Riiight. I'm totally lost. Chocolate? It's wonderful. Why are we discussing food, of all things? Just curious. Oh, and Heidi - that last e-mail was really weird...the lawyer thing at the bottom....strange.... ======== Morsus "Can't Touch This" Crustum *dry laugh* [get it? MC?] "I'll cabel Hitler and tell him to shoot around you." ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 12:04:40 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:04:40 -0000 Subject: foot and mouth... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97ldso+ho2h@eGroups.com> This time we have > already had cases from Northumberland, Devon, Essex and Anglesey (For those > unsure of where these places are in the UK we are talking about the > northern most part of England and nearly the furthest south west & south > east you can go in England). It is also believed to have spread to Ireland > (both bits), but at this moment this is unconfirmed. > Ireland: Counties S. Armagh, Wexford, Roscommon, Kerry (which if you look at a map are scattered all over the place) all have reports of 'investigations' and the first two are slaughtering and burning stock. -Ben - busily trying to rearrange our inter-varsity shooting match, which was to be held "in the middle of a rural area" (next to a pub) this weekend but we've just (about two hours ago) been told can't be due to the foot and mouth scare. btw. (to take the morbidness out) I think those biscuits are chocolate-covered digestives, or possibly chocolate-covered rich- teas, which are grim and shouldn't be tried. From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 12:13:06 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:13:06 -0000 Subject: shooting and discussions In-Reply-To: <97ldso+ho2h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Ben: "Ben - busily trying to rearrange our inter-varsity shooting match, which was to be held "in the middle of a rural area" (next to a pub) this weekend but we've just (about two hours ago) been told can't be due to the foot and mouth scare." Next to a pub. I wonder what logic was behind that decision! Guess the shooting will have to be given a miss and instead you should just relocate to the pub and have a darts match instead (without stabbing your hand with the dart). Yael: "So... thanks and do go on... I do hope we'll reach school schedule, housing, travelling (beside railroads), entertainment, jewellery and other issues that will save me the research... :)" Start asking questions and you will probably get answers. Of course the food debate always gets more messages. Simon -- "I was a workaholic. I was up to three bottles of workahol a day." - Paul Merton --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 1 12:14:49 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:14:49 -0000 Subject: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <20010301103421.31878.qmail@web12815.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <97lefp+3al8@eGroups.com> Oh, there's no question about that (even if the seats on the Hogwarts Express ar not slashed). The one I'm trying to figure out is how they enter and exit the carriage - through doors at each end, or through doors directly to each compartment. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., emily greenstreet wrote: > well for what its worth i always pictured the hogwarts > express as one of the old fashionned first class > carriages that you don't tend to see too often on the > british rail networks anymore. you still get the > occasional carriage like that on a train on the less > busy lines. i remember them better from when i was > young - small corridor that runs down one side with > sliding glass doors and windows into little booths. > they had racks over top of the seating, plush bench > seats on each side. a tiny little table at the end by > the windows. > good for privacy and for containing screaming > children. bad if some dirty old pervert came and sat > in there with you. and someone had always slashed the > seats up. > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 13:19:20 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 13:19:20 -0000 Subject: shooting and discussions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97li8o+uohf@eGroups.com> Simon wrote: > Ben: "Ben - busily trying to rearrange our inter-varsity shooting match... due to the foot and mouth scare." > > Next to a pub. I wonder what logic was behind that decision! > It just so happens that the pub landlord also owns the shooting range, which is next to the pub... Sorry, that's not right: it so happens that the guy in charge of the shooting range, also owns a pub, which is next to the range. > Guess the shooting will have to be given a miss and instead you should just > relocate to the pub and have a darts match instead (without stabbing your > hand with the dart). > The point being that we can't go there en-mass at all, whether just to the pub, or to the range; for fears that we might move foot and mouth around the country. I expect we'll find another pub. [for other people debating this try: www.rte.ie/news/2001/0301/disease.html] Trying to work out how I managed to stab my hand with a dart (whilst putting a new flight on) and I worked out that it was impossible (the dart is too long). The only logical explanation is that there was a temporary distortion of the space-time continuum; or that the matrix was rebooting, depending on from where you take your view of the world. > > Yael: "So... thanks and do go on... I do hope we'll reach school schedule, > housing, travelling (beside railroads), entertainment, jewellery and other > issues that will save me the research... :)" > At my secondary (11-16) school, they decided we didn't need a lunch- break, at so we could get through everything quicker and get out of there at twenty-past-two. Slightly different to this university where they have lectures scheduled from 5-6pm (evil) or the odd 8.30am tutorial. -Ben ...we meet and dole unequal laws unto a savage race, who hoard, and sleep and feed, and know not me. URL - Unknown random location? Best quote this week: "A Smith and Wesson beats four aces" From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 13:24:20 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 13:24:20 -0000 Subject: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97lefp+3al8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97lii4+islg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > Oh, there's no question about that (even if the seats on the Hogwarts > Express ar not slashed). The one I'm trying to figure out is how > they enter and exit the carriage - through doors at each end, or > through doors directly to each compartment. > How about a compromise? Some of the trains I occasionally travel on (when in the UK. SWT, through Soton) are semi-compartmentalised (cool word) i.e. a corridor, but with dividing walls. I think there are doors almost every other compartment, OSS. Best of both worlds. Unfortunately these trains are fairly old and are only used on the very slow routes - I only go one stop :) -Ben. From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 1 13:27:17 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:27:17 -0600 Subject: Sneetches Message-ID: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> Doreen, this is in response to you, but your messages always come up on a blue background with tiny little type, they drive me nuts to read, and when I try to respond I'm stuck in the format. So here's a new message. Sneetches are Dr. Seuss creatures, from "The Sneetches and Other Stories" which includes my personal favorite, "Too Many Daves." "The Sneetches" begins... Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches Had bellies with stars. The Plain-Belly Sneetches Had none upon thars. Etc. By the way, Sneetches are yellow, but there any resemblance to snitches ends. --Amanda, raised on Seuss, knows just about all of them by heart Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave? From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 1 14:28:00 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:28:00 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT and OTW References: <012101c0a227$496a4760$5814a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <001501c0a25b$d3635540$b7e2fea9@computer> Hint, try Dr. Seuss! Sneetches with stars, if IRC? ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Doreen To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT and OTW This is not only off the wall, but driving me UP the wall! I was Windows shopping at the Hallmark website, looking at the HP Golden Snitch reading lamp, and got thinking, "Snitch .. hmmm Snitch... sneetch ... what the heck is a sneetch and where have I heard it, read it, before?" That was much earlier today and I still have come up blank. Can anyone help me here? Doreen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 14:23:12 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:23:12 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sneetches (star-bellied, of course!) References: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> Message-ID: <000f01c0a25b$4dc8c1e0$3014a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sneetches Doreen, this is in response to you, but your messages always come up on a blue background with tiny little type, they drive me nuts to read, and when I try to respond I'm stuck in the format. So here's a new message. Sneetches are Dr. Seuss creatures, from "The Sneetches and Other Stories" which includes my personal favorite, "Too Many Daves." "The Sneetches" begins... Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches Had bellies with stars. The Plain-Belly Sneetches Had none upon thars. Etc. By the way, Sneetches are yellow, but there any resemblance to snitches ends. --Amanda, raised on Seuss, knows just about all of them by heart Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave? Oh wow! I should have known it was something from Seuss! Thank you. If I had thought, "sneetches instead of sneetch, I may have been able to work it out myself!" Thanks for the tip about the background and type ... as you can see, I have changed the background. Is the type large enough? If not, what size do you use? font and size? "I will not eat them, Sam-I-Am, I will not eat green eggs & ham" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 15:22:38 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:22:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97lii4+islg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010301152238.31579.qmail@web12805.mail.yahoo.com> Benjamin - the trains i was refering to are also on the soton line - from portsmouth to soton. i used to live in bursledon. they also have these sort of trains from london to ramsgate, any line that isn't designed to go too fast. --- Benjamin wrote:
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote:
> Oh, there's no question about that (even if the seats on the
Hogwarts
> Express ar not slashed). The one I'm trying to figure out is how
> they enter and exit the carriage - through doors at each end, or
> through doors directly to each compartment.
>

How about a compromise? Some of the trains I occasionally travel on
(when in the UK. SWT, through Soton) are semi-compartmentalised (cool
word) i.e. a corridor, but with dividing walls. I think there are
doors almost every other compartment, OSS. Best of both worlds.

Unfortunately these trains are fairly old and are only used on the
very slow routes - I only go one stop :)

-Ben.
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____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 1 15:33:14 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:33:14 -0000 Subject: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97lii4+islg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97lq3q+7aa2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > How about a compromise? Some of the trains I occasionally travel on > (when in the UK. SWT, through Soton) are semi-compartmentalised (cool > word) i.e. a corridor, but with dividing walls. I think there are > doors almost every other compartment, OSS. Best of both worlds. > > Unfortunately these trains are fairly old and are only used on the > very slow routes - I only go one stop :) > > -Ben. Which is basically what I had in mind. Something akin to this: http://www.hornby.co.uk/images/r4119a_b.gif Which clearly has connections between the coaches, with WC at each end of the coach. The coach pictured is a 3rd-class clerestory coach from GWR. From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Thu Mar 1 16:02:38 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:02:38 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > No, I'm not referring to mixing the two! > What excactly is buttermilk? Is it a close relation of sourmilk? > The only thing I ever heard of buttermilk was in radio on a Sunday in Kentucky - some bloke talking about "buttermilk pop", apparently one of his most traumatizing childhood-memories. Buttermilk is what's leftover after churning the cream to make butter. It can also be "made" with additives/bacteria to sweet milk. Personally, I find buttermilk disgusting, although my dad has been known to drink it. Mostly, though, people use it to cook with-- buttermilk pancakes, cornbread, etc. As for "buttermilk pop" I have *no* idea! Trina > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. Truth be told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that I can't even imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink it, too, but bleh! As for buttermilk pop... I have no idea either and I was born and raised in KY as was my dad and my mom grew up there. It's probably one of those stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons of 'em. I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) Meredith From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 1 16:16:36 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:16:36 -0000 Subject: Buttermilk and Twinkees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97lsl4+mt3q@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: > > > > > > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. Truth be > told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that I can't even > imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink it, too, but bleh! > > As for buttermilk pop... I have no idea either and I was born and raised in > KY as was my dad and my mom grew up there. It's probably one of those > stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons of 'em. I live in Seattle > now, and I don't have an accent and people always are amazed that I come > from Kentucky. It's right after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith As another someone originally from Kentucky ::waves hello to Meredith:: I cannot *stand* buttermilk. Luckily for those of us who do cook with it but not enough to buy a quart and have it go to waste, they now make powdered buttermilk. I don't have a Kentucky accent either (in fact, I've been told by Brits I sound British(!)) and folks are amazed. I used to get the reaction 'oh, you're wearing shoes' but haven't since moving to South Carolina. Were you affected at all by the earthquake, Meredith? And where in Kentucky do you come from? (I'm from Murray--far western KY) Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just another service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 1 16:23:02 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:23:02 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Elephant Stew Recipe In-Reply-To: <20010301101037.42066.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The recipe was in a spiral-bound book full of genuine recipes that my Mom bought many many years ago. She was just browsing thru the recipes and had to do a double-take when she got to the elephant. It was definitely not a South African book -- looks like it was self-published by some group making money for a charity perhaps, with everyone contributing their favorite recipes ("receipts" to the Brits, I believe). SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: emily greenstreet [mailto:treehavn at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 3:11 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Elephant Stew Recipe i found this recipes in a south african cookbook that a friend lent my mum the other day. where the hell did you find it? From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 1 16:27:53 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:27:53 -0000 Subject: Buttermilk and absurd questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97lta9+4sae@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: > [snip] > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. > Truth be told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that > I can't even imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink > it, too, but bleh! We have foods like that in Norway too: lutefisk, smalahove, codfish- tongue... And of course the codliver-oil, which is very healthy, and tastes accordinlgy. And the Swedes of course have their surstr?mming (which is some sort of freshwaterfish, which has been allowed to ferment in a brine, I think). > As for buttermilk pop... I have no idea either and I was born and > raised in KY as was my dad and my mom grew up there. It's probably > one of those stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons > of 'em. I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and > people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right > after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith As a Norwegian in Kentucky, the first question was 'do you have VCRs in Norway?' (There are more VCRs compared to the population in Norway than in USA), followed by 'do you have cars'. No questions about polar-bears, oddly enough, and nobody even knew what whaling was (I wrote my English III research-paper on whaling). From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Thu Mar 1 16:31:41 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:31:41 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: shooting and discussions References: <97li8o+uohf@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002501c0a26d$2f980200$bb3b7bd5@tmeltcds> > The point being that we can't go there en-mass at all, whether just > to the pub, or to the range; for fears that we might move foot and > mouth around the country. I expect we'll find another pub. > I happen to live right in one of the eyes of the storm. The abbatoir where F and M was first spotted is only about 2 or 3 miles up the road. On Moncday you could smell the smoke everywhere. Slightly different to this university > where they have lectures scheduled from 5-6pm (evil) or the odd > 8.30am tutorial. Ok. get this. At my Uni there was something even more evil - lectures between seven and nine in the evening. In my first year I lived in a Hall of Residence down a dark narrow lane called Pullens Lane. It was so dangerous that the hall had a phone system whereby you could call from campus to get a guy to walk you back. And a special bus for women only run by the SU. In France and Germany I had it even worse - 8 am lectures. In France this wasn't too bad because it was only a 15 minute ( for me ) walk to the campus from our hall. In Germany it was a half hour bus ride from our cockroach infested hall to town and then a ten minute walk to class. So 8.30 is not so bad. Michelle From voicelady at mymailstation.com Thu Mar 1 17:41:47 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 1 Mar 2001 09:41:47 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Breakfast Message-ID: <20010301174147.20730.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 18:16:09 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:16:09 -0000 Subject: shooting and discussions In-Reply-To: <002501c0a26d$2f980200$bb3b7bd5@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <97m3l9+hu2q@eGroups.com> Okay, so I won't complain about anything, as I'm sure you can beat it. [toys with the idea of eating that interesting fly on the surface... maybe... no. Won't] :) - Ben. "Any well developed techology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Michelle Apostolides" wrote: > > > I happen to live right in one of the eyes of the storm. The abbatoir > where F and M was first spotted is only about 2 or 3 miles up the road. > On Moncday you could smell the smoke everywhere. > Ok. get this. At my Uni there was something even more evil - lectures > between seven and nine in the evening. In my first year I lived in a > Hall of Residence down a dark narrow lane called Pullens Lane. It was so > dangerous that the hall had a phone system whereby you could call from > campus to get a guy to walk you back. And a special bus for women only > run by the SU. In France and Germany I had it even worse - 8 am > lectures. In France this wasn't too bad because it was only a 15 minute > ( for me ) walk to the campus from our hall. In Germany it was a half > hour bus ride from our cockroach infested hall to town and then a ten > minute walk to class. So 8.30 is not so bad. > > Michelle From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Thu Mar 1 18:56:40 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:56:40 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: shooting and discussions References: <97m3l9+hu2q@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <003501c0a281$7581dde0$dc2b7bd5@tmeltcds> > > Okay, so I won't complain about anything, as I'm sure you can beat > it. [toys with the idea of eating that interesting fly on the > surface... maybe... no. Won't] :) > Hey. Wasn't trying one upwomanship. Just telling it how it was. I was at Oxford Brookes by the way. Michelle From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 20:30:11 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:30:11 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions References: <97lta9+4sae@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00ca01c0a28e$6a99e460$1814a3d1@doreen> . It's probably > one of those stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons > of 'em. I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and > people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right > after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith As a Norwegian in Kentucky, the first question was 'do you have VCRs in Norway?' (There are more VCRs compared to the population in Norway than in USA), followed by 'do you have cars'. No questions about polar-bears, oddly enough, and nobody even knew what whaling was (I wrote my English III research-paper on whaling). Have you seen the "I AM CANADIAN" Molsen beer commercial? This deals with stereotypical ideas about Canadians in a hysterically humorous way. My Canadian friend had to explain to me that people think they should "know" anyone that the non-Canadians happen to know. Also, that they go there in the summer expecting to ski. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Thu Mar 1 20:35:31 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:35:31 -0000 Subject: Buttermilk and Twinkees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97mbqj+d7ug@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. Truth be > told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that I can't even imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink it, too, but bleh! > > I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith Haha! This cracked me up; several weeks back, I was phoning varios tech support numbers in a vain search for help from MSN, and one of the people I ended up speaking to was a young man in Kentucky. I'm in Texas, and even with all the accents I hear, I could barely understand him. I thought it was so funny, I kept repeating what I thought he said, then he'd correct me. He probably thought I had an IQ of 3. He was extremely sweet, and gave me the most helpful advice I got that day. BTW, my folks like a glass of buttermilk now and then, too, (raised in TX) usually crumbling up cornbread in it as well, to make that delightful mush... Kelley From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Thu Mar 1 20:42:53 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:42:53 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" Message-ID: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Does anybody remember "Tom Swifties?" These little one-liners were popular, along with elephant jokes and Spoonerisms, back when I was in junior high school. It shouldn't be necessary to explain how they work -- just take a look at these examples from Harry Potter's universe: "I'm over here, Hermione, under the invisibility cloak," whispered Harry, transparently. "Meow!" said Cruikshanks, catagorically. "Do you like my new dress robes?" asked Fleur, figuratively. "You must put the lacewings in *before* the axolotl, Longbottom!" Snape said explosively. "Avada, uh... how does that go again?" said Goyle, cursorily. "I've lost my finger!" cried Pettigrew, pointlessly. (with apologies to Elizabeth Shaffer) "Allow me to introduce myself; I am Madam Maxime," she said, broadly. "Want to play a game of chess?" asked Ron, ponderously ("pawnderously"). "Welcome to the Knight Bus," said Stan, conductively. "Oh, no! I've forgotten my colour-coded revisions!" said Hermione, listlessly. "That @#$%! poltergeist!" Filch swore, peevishly. "Mine was sixteen inches, solid oak," stated Hagrid, erectly. "Someone's stolen all the games from the Common Room," cried Fred and George, Cluelessly. "You must breathe in the medicated vapours as deeply as possible," said Madam Pomfrey, inspirationally. "Please concentrate all your attention on this pocket watch..." Professor Trelawney intoned, hypnotically. "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. Can you think of others? -Jim Flanagan From shades_of_black at mail.com Thu Mar 1 20:50:31 2001 From: shades_of_black at mail.com (Morsus Crustum) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:50:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Why are we discussing food, asks Morsel Crusty Message-ID: <387255461.983479832107.JavaMail.root@web569-mc> *wipes tears of mirth out of eyes* Oy! That is the best spoof I have heard yet! No, it's not a real name. At all. It's latin for "Painful Bread". Which, actually, has to do with food in the first place. *looks weirded out* Okaaaay. Do I even want to ask? By the way...on the topic of food (and I'm sure this has long since been covered) could anyone tell me what treacle is? I never got that... ================ Morsus Crustum (good ol' Crusty) Merry Misadventures From your local *cough* world traveler: El Sol De Mexico: In Mexico, when you climb into a cab, (if the driver doesn?t rob and kill you straightaway), you?ll have the pleasure of stopping to pick up, in rapid succession: a seventy-year-old woman holding a leaky basket of dead fish, two guys with machetes, and for an encore, a shirtless guy carrying a five-gallon jug of gasoline. This would be one time when I would advise you to extinguish all smoking materials. Halfway up a steep hill, on a blind curve, the car will stall. The driver, who is after all a professional, will get out, pop the hood, and begin banging on the engine with a rock. Maintenance completed, he will stuff himself back into the driver?s seat, turn the salsa music up to ten, and fly on up the hill at eighty miles an hour. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 1 21:13:00 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:13:00 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] "Tom Swifties" References: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <010501c0a294$6aac2520$1814a3d1@doreen> Oh ... I think I see a list in the making ... what do YOU think, Steve? These are adorably funny and witty! Darn! I wish that I was not on my way to getting ready for work! By the time I get home tonite, all the good ones will have been taken! Doreen said rushingly (is that a word) or how about retiringly, cuz I cant wait til I am retired and on a pension and can sit 24/7 in front of my pc... I plan to pack it up and take it to the Home with me too, when my time comes. My kids will know that it will be the easiest way to keep me happy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Flanagan To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] "Tom Swifties" Does anybody remember "Tom Swifties?" These little one-liners were popular, along with elephant jokes and Spoonerisms, back when I was in junior high school. It shouldn't be necessary to explain how they work -- just take a look at these examples from Harry Potter's universe: "I'm over here, Hermione, under the invisibility cloak," whispered Harry, transparently. "Meow!" said Cruikshanks, catagorically. "Do you like my new dress robes?" asked Fleur, figuratively. "You must put the lacewings in *before* the axolotl, Longbottom!" Snape said explosively. "Avada, uh... how does that go again?" said Goyle, cursorily. "I've lost my finger!" cried Pettigrew, pointlessly. (with apologies to Elizabeth Shaffer) "Allow me to introduce myself; I am Madam Maxime," she said, broadly. "Want to play a game of chess?" asked Ron, ponderously ("pawnderously"). "Welcome to the Knight Bus," said Stan, conductively. "Oh, no! I've forgotten my colour-coded revisions!" said Hermione, listlessly. "That @#$%! poltergeist!" Filch swore, peevishly. "Mine was sixteen inches, solid oak," stated Hagrid, erectly. "Someone's stolen all the games from the Common Room," cried Fred and George, Cluelessly. "You must breathe in the medicated vapours as deeply as possible," said Madam Pomfrey, inspirationally. "Please concentrate all your attention on this pocket watch..." Professor Trelawney intoned, hypnotically. "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. Can you think of others? -Jim Flanagan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 1 22:02:03 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:02:03 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: These are great! Here's mine.... "I've just fallen through the screen door," said Harry in a strained voice. SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: Jim Flanagan [mailto:jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 1:43 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] "Tom Swifties" Does anybody remember "Tom Swifties?" These little one-liners were popular, along with elephant jokes and Spoonerisms, back when I was in junior high school. From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 1 22:28:04 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:28:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: hello and other apologies Message-ID: <20010301222804.31148.qmail@web12809.mail.yahoo.com> hello been reading all your messages for the past few days - feeling less scared now so thought i'd introduce myself. my name's emily, i'm 20, a student at university in canterbury. read the harry potter books an age ago but recently got into the fanfic and found myself an addict. ummmm...this sounds like an intro for Blind Date so i think i'd better be off now. hoping to get to know who the hell you all are and why you seem so obsessed with crappy chocolate biscuits (not cookies). yeah, that's it. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 1 22:37:28 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:37:28 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97miv8+d519@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: [snip] > "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. [snip] I will not add any - just here to say that I am proud I actually understood that one. To most Norwegians the term commode would bring up the image of a chest of drawers, which is termed "kommode" in Norwegian. The term confused me quite a bit the first time I was in USA (as did the term "fruity", which I had no idea had any other emaning than the most obvious one - I accidentally used the term to describe myself at one time). From shades_of_black at mail.com Thu Mar 1 23:27:48 2001 From: shades_of_black at mail.com (Morsus Crustum) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:27:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] "Tom Swifties" Message-ID: <380041953.983489268060.JavaMail.root@web572-mc> Hum, I don't think this one has been said - "The damned candle blew out", muttered Draco, darkly. It seems like there would be so many out there. . . ======== Morsus "Can't Touch This" Crustum *dry laugh* [get it? MC?] "I'll cabel Hitler and tell him to shoot around you." ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 1 23:45:01 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:45:01 -0600 Subject: Aaggh! QuickTime -- I need Technical Help Message-ID: <3A9EDEFD.5BAE097E@swbell.net> Hi -- I've now got my DSL back up & running (was using my 56K internal earlier today). Have downloaded the Quicktime High Resolution version to my hard drive. I can now view it using QuickTime Movie Viewer at double size (i.e., my entire computer screen -- *way* cool). But, I *still* have no audio at all with this version, and I can't find anything about how to fix this. I can hear the audio with RealPlayer, but the video version is choppy & frankly terrible with that. Any techies out there? I downloaded QuickTime (didn't pay for a version) -- could this be why I have no audio? Thanks! Penny From lj2d30 at gateway.net Fri Mar 2 00:51:49 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 00:51:49 -0000 Subject: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97mqr5+euq9@eGroups.com> "Simon" wrote: > > > Some of my university food is ok. It is actually a shock to find someone who actually can cook decent food in such an institution. > My freshman year at the University of Illinois I actually lost about 18 pounds instead of gaining the dreaded "freshman 10" because I *loathed* the food served in the dining hall. Plus, my dorm was a mile from the south end of the quad, so my activity went up drastically. But the one thing that my cafeteria did well was a creation called Tollhouse pie. Essentially, if you made a huge chocolate chip cookie about an inch thick and put it in a pie crust, you'd have the tollhouse pie. Warm in in the microwave for a minute and get some ice cream from the soft serve machine and Presto! Heaven on a plate! They always had the desserts on a table to get them after you came through the main line, but on Tollhouse Pie night, you made darn sure you grabbed pie before going into the main line. And, if you were smart, you grabbed two! I was always amazed that they could make a divine dessert like this, but managed to screw up good ol' macaroni and cheese! Trina (who buys frozen biscuits and mixes her fried eggs up with her grits) From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 2 01:02:39 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:02:39 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97miv8+d519@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97mrff+siiq@eGroups.com> I actually made up a "Swiftie" involving Lockhart, Harry, and a banana, which ended, "Lockhart intoned, fruitily." But I decided that it might go beyond my self-imposed PG-13 rating. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > [snip] > > "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. > [snip] > I will not add any - just here to say that I am proud I actually > understood that one. To most Norwegians the term commode would bring > up the image of a chest of drawers, which is termed "kommode" in > Norwegian. The term confused me quite a bit the first time I was in > USA (as did the term "fruity", which I had no idea had any other > emaning than the most obvious one - I accidentally used the term to > describe myself at one time). From lj2d30 at gateway.net Fri Mar 2 01:04:51 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:04:51 -0000 Subject: Twinkies In-Reply-To: <97k4lc+gh2m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97mrjj+mtg1@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > I laugh, I cry, I swear it's funnier than the peeps page. > > Heather M. I laughed hysterically at the twinkies page. What on God's green earth do they do to peeps at the peeps page? And where can I find it? Trina, who has a sudden need for creme-filled sponge cake From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 01:12:39 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 01:12:39 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <97mqr5+euq9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Trina: "My freshman year at the University of Illinois I actually lost about 18 pounds instead of gaining the dreaded "freshman 10" because I *loathed* the food served in the dining hall. Plus, my dorm was a mile from the south end of the quad, so my activity went up drastically. But the one thing that my cafeteria did well was a creation called Tollhouse pie. Essentially, if you made a huge chocolate chip cookie about an inch thick and put it in a pie crust, you'd have the tollhouse pie. Warm in in the microwave for a minute and get some ice cream from the soft serve machine and Presto! Heaven on a plate! They always had the desserts on a table to get them after you came through the main line, but on Tollhouse Pie night, you made darn sure you grabbed pie before going into the main line. And, if you were smart, you grabbed two! I was always amazed that they could make a divine dessert like this, but managed to screw up good ol' macaroni and cheese!" I was one of the people who put on weight. Nearly two stones in my first year. This is not as bad as it may seem as I started from underweight and finally got my weight up to something normal and then shot nearly shot out the other side. I had to make an effort after that to eat more sensibly and exercise more (I am managing the first and failing terribly on the second) so that I would not need a complete new set of clothes to wear! Michelle: "Ok. get this. At my Uni there was something even more evil - lectures between seven and nine in the evening. In my first year I lived in a Hall of Residence down a dark narrow lane called Pullens Lane. It was so dangerous that the hall had a phone system whereby you could call from campus to get a guy to walk you back. And a special bus for women only run by the SU." One of my tutors kept offering to give 8 m tutorials and each time we turned the offer down. I know of several people who have had 8:30 am classes on Saturday here and one who had tutorials at 7 pm on a Sunday. None of these people were pleased with the arrangements! Jeralyn: "Don't know how you do it, guys. If I don't eat breakfast, I pass out. It helps that I *adore* breakfast foods. It's my favorite meal of the day!" I have been skipping breakfast for a long time and it is now something I am used to. I do not recommend it to anyone, but have found it works for me. Lots of people comment on it and ask me how I cope without eating. I think one of the worst examples is getting up at 7 am, after 6 hours sleep, being on my feet all day cooking food and getting to 3 pm and suddenly realising that I had had nothing to eat all day and only water and a cup of tea to drink. I then found time to sit down and eat lunch, which was needed by then, and generally relax. Not a schedule I want to repeat. Emily: "been reading all your messages for the past few days - feeling less scared now so thought i'd introduce myself. my name's emily, i'm 20, a student at university in canterbury. read the harry potter books an age ago but recently got into the fanfic and found myself an addict. ummmm...this sounds like an intro for Blind Date so i think i'd better be off now. hoping to get to know who the hell you all are and why you seem so obsessed with crappy chocolate biscuits (not cookies)." Fanfic, the way to spend your life in front of a computer screen. I seem to have been on here all night! Last time I said hi to someone who went to a university one of my school friends had been at it turned out they had shared a house. Food is such an easy topic to discuss, but chocolate niscuits would be better replaced by Ben's Cookies. Looks around and hears Ben agree with me and probably everyone else say what. Oh well, I am sure they are not only based here, but apart form Bath I do not know where else they have premises. By the way I am talking about freshly made cookies, straight from the makers. Plains choccie chip for preference, but not beaten by after eight mint ice cream. Simon (and the obligatory fanfic plug for his character) -- "... operatives of the Magical Law Enforcement Service continue their hunt for missing fashion designer Simon Branford, who disappeared from his Oxford home several weeks ago. Rumours of Branford's possible involvement in the so called Dracaena Affair have yet to be confirmed or denied. Meanwhile, crowds of fans and well wishers continue to besiege his home, and teenage witches up and down the land are said to be distraught." - The Time of Trial Chapter 2: Don't Look Back In Anger by Al (http://www.fanfiction.net/index.fic?action=story-read&storyid=207267) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 01:27:08 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:27:08 -0000 Subject: PEEPS! In-Reply-To: <97mrjj+mtg1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97mstc+4omm@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Trina" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > > > I laugh, I cry, I swear it's funnier than the peeps page. > > > > Heather M. > > I laughed hysterically at the twinkies page. What on God's green > earth do they do to peeps at the peeps page? And where can I find it? > > Trina, who has a sudden need for creme-filled sponge cake http://www.learnlink.emory.edu/peep/ Happy peeping! Heather M. From lj2d30 at gateway.net Fri Mar 2 01:26:19 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:26:19 -0000 Subject: OT and OTW In-Reply-To: <012101c0a227$496a4760$5814a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <97msrr+4oo3@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > This is not only off the wall, but driving me UP the wall! I was Windows shopping at the Hallmark website, looking at the HP Golden Snitch reading lamp, and got thinking, "Snitch .. hmmm Snitch... sneetch ... what the heck is a sneetch and where have I heard it, read it, before?" That was much earlier today and I still have come up blank. Can anyone help me here? > > Doreen Dr. Seuss book "The Sneetches" Some had stars on their tummies and some did not. A great battle of who was better -- those with stars or those without. Since tomorrow is Read Across America Day in honor of Dr. Seuss's birthday, check it out! Trina From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 03:22:18 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 03:22:18 -0000 Subject: More strange food related research by people with too much free time Message-ID: <97n3la+rpr0@eGroups.com> http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~irving/bunnies/ That one is about Marshmallow Bunnies. http://marks.networktel.net/index2.html In this second one, the Bunnies Strike Back! Be sure to click on the quicktime footage of the hard peep under the page labeled "BOOM!". Heh heh heh From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 11:05:06 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:05:06 -0000 Subject: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97nup2+lgvd@eGroups.com> "Simon" Wrote: > Food is such an easy topic to discuss, but chocolate niscuits would be > better replaced by Ben's Cookies. Looks around and hears Ben agree with me > and probably everyone else say what. Oh well, I am sure they are not only > based here, but apart form Bath I do not know where else they have > premises. By the way I am talking about freshly made cookies, straight from > the makers. Plains choccie chip for preference, but not beaten by after > eight mint ice cream. > (Nice to know I'm so predictable) Ben's cookies are a fabulous creation, but are sold by the kilo (I mean catchweight) and are incredibly expensive. About 90p (sterling) each. The ginger and chocolate ones are best (only Simon is allergic to them) I had two for breakfast when I was in Oxford the other week (he said deliciously). The after-eight mint ice-cream is served at G&Ds; another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves homemade icecream and great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the Haagen Dazs round here that shuts at nine) Now look what you've made me do, I'll have to queue for coffee. -Ben. Who isn't getting homesick and can't go anywhere 'cos of all these FMD restrictions. From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 11:08:12 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:08:12 -0000 Subject: Festivals Message-ID: <97nuus+2eqc@eGroups.com> I can't believe they've just cancelled St. Patrick's Day. And we were going to blow up the docks (lots of fireworks) too. -Ben. (This ain't about food) From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 13:45:05 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 05:45:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Absurd questions/I AM CANADIAN In-Reply-To: <00ca01c0a28e$6a99e460$1814a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <20010302134505.34554.qmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> --- Doreen wrote: > Have you seen the "I AM CANADIAN" Molsen beer > commercial? This deals with stereotypical ideas > about Canadians in a hysterically humorous way. My > Canadian friend had to explain to me that people > think they should "know" anyone that the > non-Canadians happen to know. Also, that they go > there in the summer expecting to ski. > Doreen > Those are hilarious (an I *am* Canadian). Most of them are true, anyone visitor to the country seems to think we all know each other. I do genealogy research and frequently get requests from people like 'my grandmother was born in Canada, can you find her?', with no clues as to dates or provinces. Like we have a single drawer of records that cover everything. On the Molson commercial, we have it on T-shirts now, as well, I keep seeing them at the store down the street. My husband is considering getting one. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 14:05:13 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:05:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <97mqr5+euq9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010302140513.3460.qmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> > "Simon" wrote: > > > Some of my university food is ok. It is actually a > shock to find > someone who actually can cook decent food in such an > institution. Don't let my husband hear you say that. He cooks at a boarding school and the students rave about his food. He also cooks at a kid's summer camp in his months off, and the some of the counsellors only sign on for another year after waiting to see if he's coming back as cook. Now, if I could only convince his boss at the school that he should have supper hours off so he can cook for me! Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 14:20:38 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:20:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <97nup2+lgvd@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010302142038.25243.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Benjamin wrote: The after-eight mint ice-cream is > served at G&Ds; > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves > homemade icecream and > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the > Haagen Dazs round > here that shuts at nine) > Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee and my hours are very flexible, especially in the summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, but only when she makes it herself ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 14:24:37 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:24:37 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees Message-ID: Parker! Always glad to see another Kentuckian! > As another someone originally from Kentucky ::waves hello to > Meredith:: I cannot *stand* buttermilk. Luckily for those of us who > do cook with it but not enough to buy a quart and have it go to > waste, they now make powdered buttermilk. And it's a good thing, too! I'm not much of a cook in general but I hate to buy things like that just to throw them out. > I don't have a Kentucky accent either (in fact, I've been told by > Brits I sound British(!)) and folks are amazed. I used to get the > reaction 'oh, you're wearing shoes' but haven't since moving to South > Carolina. People used ask if I was from New England, but since living here my accent has become pretty neutral. I always had to laugh about that comment, which I used to get most when visiting relatives in Michigan, because I'd have to say 'Does it look like I wear shoes to you? I thought that was what these things on my feet were...' > Were you affected at all by the earthquake, Meredith? And where in > Kentucky do you come from? (I'm from Murray--far western KY) Actually, yes I was. It was pretty terrifying! I've never been through an earthquake before and 6.8 was big for my first one! I work in an air and space museum and our big gallery is made of glass with many airplanes hanging fromthe ceiling, so I just pictured a mess when it started. I was in the basement, but free-standing tables were falling over, our library and archives had an entire room of bookshelves dominoe and are now sitting precariously against each other. They're afraid if they start to move one the stack will crash through the wall its resting on. But for the most part, no damage at work or home. There is a lot of damage through town though, and it took me 2 hours to go what would normally take 5 - 10 minutes yesterday because of road closures and traffic. That's no fun, but nobody was killed or even seriously injured, so I count us all lucky. :) Thanks for asking. That's been one of the most interesting thing. People I haven't talked to in years have been coming out of the woodwork to make sure I'm ok, and that's really a nice feeling. Meredith From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 14:25:51 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:25:51 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees Message-ID: Were you affected at all by the earthquake, Meredith? And where in Kentucky do you come from? (I'm from Murray--far western KY) Peace & Plenty, Parker I forgot to mention... I'm from Lexington. My Dad went to Murray, though. My grandmother lives in Hickman, county seat of Fulton county, so I've spent a fair amount of time in western KY. I think it's beautiful there. Mer From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 14:32:15 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:32:15 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: > [snip] > > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. > > Truth be told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that > > I can't even imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink > > it, too, but bleh! > We have foods like that in Norway too: lutefisk, smalahove, codfish- > tongue... And of course the codliver-oil, which is very healthy, and > tastes accordinlgy. And the Swedes of course have their surstr?mming > (which is some sort of freshwaterfish, which has been allowed to > ferment in a brine, I think). Yes, there's a large scandinavian population here, actually, and I've heard about some of those things, but I haven't been brave enough to try any of them! > > As for buttermilk pop... I have no idea either and I was born and >> raised in KY as was my dad and my mom grew up there. It's probably > > one of those stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons > > of 'em. I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and > > people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right > > after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > > > Meredith > As a Norwegian in Kentucky, the first question was 'do you have VCRs > in Norway?' (There are more VCRs compared to the population in Norway > than in USA), followed by 'do you have cars'. No questions about > polar-bears, oddly enough, and nobody even knew what whaling was (I > wrote my English III research-paper on whaling). First, what are you doing in Kentucky?! That's hilarious about the VCRs, too, since there's nothing to do in Lexington but watch TV, go to the movies or out to eat. I just have to marvel at questions like 'do you have cars.' And I know there aren't any huge bodies of water in Kentucky, but they hadn't even heard of whaling? I guess I can count myself lucky to have lived in an educated household growing up! Where are you in Kentucky? Mer From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 14:34:10 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:34:10 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions Message-ID: . It's probably > one of those stereotypical Kentucky things. There are tons > of 'em. I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and > people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right > after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith As a Norwegian in Kentucky, the first question was 'do you have VCRs in Norway?' (There are more VCRs compared to the population in Norway than in USA), followed by 'do you have cars'. No questions about polar-bears, oddly enough, and nobody even knew what whaling was (I wrote my English III research-paper on whaling). Have you seen the "I AM CANADIAN" Molsen beer commercial? This deals with stereotypical ideas about Canadians in a hysterically humorous way. My Canadian friend had to explain to me that people think they should "know" anyone that the non-Canadians happen to know. Also, that they go there in the summer expecting to ski. Doreen I'll have to keep an eye open. We have a resident Canadian here in our office, who is proud to be so, but we give him all kinds of grief for it. Mer From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 14:39:34 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:39:34 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and Twinkees Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson > As someone from Kentucky, I think buttermilk is utterly vile. Truth be > told, I've never tasted any, but it looks so horrible that I can't even imagine putting it in my system! My dad used to drink it, too, but bleh! > > I live in Seattle now, and I don't have an accent and people always are amazed that I come from Kentucky. It's right after the 'do you wear shoes' question. :) > > Meredith Haha! This cracked me up; several weeks back, I was phoning varios tech support numbers in a vain search for help from MSN, and one of the people I ended up speaking to was a young man in Kentucky. I'm in Texas, and even with all the accents I hear, I could barely understand him. I thought it was so funny, I kept repeating what I thought he said, then he'd correct me. He probably thought I had an IQ of 3. He was extremely sweet, and gave me the most helpful advice I got that day. BTW, my folks like a glass of buttermilk now and then, too, (raised in TX) usually crumbling up cornbread in it as well, to make that delightful mush... Kelley That cracks me up. And it makes me think back to when I was in New York working with the news and they did a report from Kentucky and they had to subtitle the poor guy! It is true that there are people, especially in the Eastern part of the state, that have some serious accents. I'm from there and I couldn't understand the guy, so I can understand where you're coming from! Mer From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 2 14:56:17 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:56:17 -0000 Subject: More "Swifties" Message-ID: <97ocah+dvo8@eGroups.com> "Lupin showed me how to take care of Dementors," Harry said, patronizingly. "My parents wanted to use muggle dentistry to fix my teeth," Hermione said, bracingly. "I'm not speaking to you!" Ron said, silently. "All Griffindors line up over here for your Ritalin!" Madam Pomfrey ADDed, attentively. "Drop your wands!" Moody ordered, disarmingly. "Hi! We're Fred and George Weasley," the twins said, duplicitously. From voicelady at mymailstation.com Fri Mar 2 15:03:10 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 2 Mar 2001 07:03:10 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food!,especially University stuff Message-ID: <20010302150310.22972.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Fri Mar 2 15:04:51 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:04:51 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Festivals References: <97nuus+2eqc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <024a01c0a32a$33e9fb20$b4207bd5@tmeltcds> > I can't believe they've just cancelled St. Patrick's Day. And we > were going to blow up the docks (lots of fireworks) too. > Ben, where are you studying ? Michelle From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Fri Mar 2 15:03:20 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:03:20 -0000 Subject: Half On-Topic Message-ID: <024901c0a32a$338e6da0$b4207bd5@tmeltcds> Thinking about our recent chocolate discussions, do you think the amount of cocoa solids in the chocolate administered after an encounter with Dementors would have a bearing on the speed of the recovery ? Nit picky, I know. But they say that the higher the percentage of cocoa solids, the better the chocolate. Michelle From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 15:50:14 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 15:50:14 -0000 Subject: Half On-Topic In-Reply-To: <024901c0a32a$338e6da0$b4207bd5@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <97offm+io5k@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Michelle Apostolides" wrote: > Thinking about our recent chocolate discussions, do you think the amount > of cocoa solids in the chocolate administered after an encounter with > Dementors would have a bearing on the speed of the recovery ? > > Nit picky, I know. But they say that the higher the percentage of cocoa > solids, the better the chocolate. > > Michelle "They say." The more cocoa solids the more bitter - and the more allergic I am to the stuff. Give me good old milk chocolate any day! As for the dementors, I think that UK chocolate works quite nicely, and the Belgians say that their chocolate isn't even chocolate, because it's got too much vegetable protein. That's really funny to me because I don't like Belgian chocolate (it's bitter IMHO and i get hives from it). Heather M., who has a very complex relationship to chocolate, including a very plebian taste for the stuff. Give me Hershey's or give me Hives! From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 16:11:58 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:11:58 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Festivals In-Reply-To: <024a01c0a32a$33e9fb20$b4207bd5@tmeltcds> Message-ID: Ben: "I can't believe they've just cancelled St. Patrick's Day. And we were going to blow up the docks (lots of fireworks) too." Michelle: "Ben, where are you studying ?" He is an alumnus of here and now over in Ireland. Hence why St. Patrick's Day is important to him. He wanted to go out and drink Guinness. Ben: "(Nice to know I'm so predictable) Ben's cookies are a fabulous creation, but are sold by the kilo (I mean catchweight) and are incredibly expensive. About 90p (sterling) each. The ginger and chocolate ones are best (only Simon is allergic to them) I had two for breakfast when I was in Oxford the other week (he said deliciously). The after-eight mint ice-cream is served at G&Ds; another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves homemade icecream and great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the Haagen Dazs round here that shuts at nine)" Ginger is horrible! Simon -- Faith? "... walk straight at it ... Don't stop and don't be scared ... that's very important. Best do it at a bit of a run if you're nervous." Molly Weasley - Harry Potter and the Philopsher's Stone by J.K. Rowling --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 16:27:50 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: shooting and discussions In-Reply-To: <002501c0a26d$2f980200$bb3b7bd5@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <20010302162750.9878.qmail@web12814.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michelle Apostolides wrote: > > I happen to live right in one of the eyes of the > storm. The abbatoir > where F and M was first spotted is only about 2 or 3 > miles up the road. > On Moncday you could smell the smoke everywhere. > okay this might appear to be a bit of a gross question but i've been wondering about it ever since they started the burning. does the smoke smell like a big sunday roast being cooked? ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 2 16:45:23 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:45:23 -0000 Subject: shooting and discussions In-Reply-To: <20010302162750.9878.qmail@web12814.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <97oin3+kpcg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., emily greenstreet wrote: > > --- Michelle Apostolides > wrote: > > > I happen to live right in one of the eyes of the > > storm. The abbatoir > > where F and M was first spotted is only about 2 or 3 > > miles up the road. > > On Moncday you could smell the smoke everywhere. > > > > okay this might appear to be a bit of a gross question > but i've been wondering about it ever since they > started the burning. does the smoke smell like a big > sunday roast being cooked? > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie No, I wouldn't imagine it would (I'm in the US, but I worry about what's going on in my 'spiritual homeland of the UK'). I think it smells like burning hair combined with the smell of burning flesh & bone. Pretty unappetising, I would think. Parker who was raised on a farm, but never had to experience F & M disease or mad cow disease, or for that matter, anthrax ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ebonyink at hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 16:47:31 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:47:31 -0000 Subject: Going to England this summer... Message-ID: <97oir3+nu9h@eGroups.com> Hello all-- What fun discussions! Glad to see others who love Twinkies. :) I've posted this to the HP Paradise list, but I know many of us are on Web View over there. It looks like I'll be studying at Oxford this summer--Corpus Christi, to be exact. (Jumping up and down.) The dates are Jul 1-Aug 11 (my 24th birthday!). I'll be studying comparative education and modern British fiction. There are five plays we'll be seeing, and three sight-seeing tours to London, Bath, and Stratford-upon-Avon. Our weekends are largely free, though... and the Program Directors are also suggesting that we visit several cities, including Edinburgh and Dublin, on our own... they've put together optional packages. Needless to say, I'm really looking forward to this. This will be my first study abroad opportunity--I've had to work every summer since I was 13--my parents didn't have the luxury of sending me off to research and study, and thought the idea preposterous considering our socioeconomic background. (Shudders, remembering Mom's lectures about the Value of Hard Work and Utility.) So now I'm sending myself. ;-) I'd love to meet as many of you in person as I can... just make sure when you meet my classmates, you tell them that we are part of an "online literary discussion group". I refuse to come out of the closet with my Harry Potter obsession... although my involvement in HP fandom tipped the balance in England's favor. (I had to decide between England and Spain.) I'll bring some Michigan/Ontario memorabilia for those who I meet if I can get it past customs... I'm thinking postcards, souvenir posters or magnets, buttons, etc. And please, if you've never met an Internet person before, don't let that scare you. The tip is to always bring someone else and meet in public places. I'm not a weirdo... in case you have any doubts, I've met listmom Penny and her husband this fall. She says I'm pretty much like she'd imagined from my posts. So Ebony's not just a figment of your imagination. :0) So far, Michelle (waves!) and perhaps Simon have said we might be able to meet. Keith says he'll be in New Zealand during that time, but I'd love to meet Neil, Heather Edmonds, and other English listies. We can work out the logistics once I get my schedule--it just may be easier for me to come to you one weekend, or perhaps we can all meet in London if everyone's within a stone's throw. *That* would be fun. (Can't you tell I have no conception of distances within the UK? I've also recently heard of the rail accident... not only I'm very sad about it, AOL's posting of "Recent UK Train Disasters" has made me more than a little nervous.) Also, I'm trying hard to still swing my NY trip next month. Because this has come up, I may have to spend the day/night in New York *twice*. If that's the case, then I'll have to switch my NY visit to June 30th and August 12th, etc. That's it for me! Please... carry on with the chatter! --Ebony AKA AngieJ From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 17:08:52 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:08:52 -0000 Subject: Festivals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97ok34+kjaj@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: Ben: "I can't believe they've just cancelled St. Patrick's Day. And we were going to blow up the docks (lots of fireworks) too." Michelle: "Ben, where are you studying ?" Simon: "He is an alumnus of here and now over in Ireland. Hence why St. Patrick's Day is important to him. He wanted to go out and drink Guinness." Thanks for answering that, Simon. If I ever forget where I am... :) Actually I can drink Guinness any time, except it would be difficult on St. Patrick's Day as the place gets filled up by about half-a- million Yanks [ducks]..... And English Guinness is occasionally so disgusting I can't finish it, so only drink bitter in England (which you can't get in Ireland...) St. Patrick's Day festival would've been cool though, as they have 18 tonnes of fireworks which they set off to music along the banks of the river (which runs through the city centre). Only they're not doing it now. Well not yet. Apparently they have already bought the fireworks (which are otherwise illegal over here) so they'll be exploding stuff somewhen... > Simon: "Ginger is horrible!" It's a fantastic spice. And adds pizzaz to curry. And livens up bacon and tomatoes a treat. Generalisations are always wrong. Including that one. -Ben. From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Fri Mar 2 17:17:27 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:17:27 -0000 Subject: Buttermilk and absurd questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97okj7+grsk@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: [snip] > > We have foods like that in Norway too: lutefisk, smalahove, codfish- > > tongue... And of course the codliver-oil, which is very healthy, and > > tastes accordinlgy. And the Swedes of course have their surstr?mming > > (which is some sort of freshwaterfish, which has been allowed to > > ferment in a brine, I think). > > Yes, there's a large scandinavian population here, actually, and I've heard > about some of those things, but I haven't been brave enough to try any of > them! > [snip] > First, what are you doing in Kentucky?! That's hilarious about > the VCRs, too, since there's nothing to do in Lexington but watch > TV, go to the movies or out to eat. I just have to marvel at > questions like 'do you have cars.' And I know there aren't any huge > bodies of water in Kentucky, but they hadn't even heard of > whaling? I guess I can count myself lucky to have lived in an > educated household growing up! Where are you in Kentucky? > > Mer I was in Kentucky as an echange-student, being a hig-school junior 1993-93. I was in Garrard County (pronounced Gear-ard by locals), which was an interesting experience. When I first arrived, temperature was in the mid 90s, with heat-index in excess of 120 - and the school did not have air-condition... At high-school, I found that it is indeed possible for a Norwegian and a Japanese exchange- student to be the two best students in the US-History-class (I got the diploma), my algebra-teacher gave tests with 11 questions, each counting 10%. I got a sinus-infection, a lympho-knob-infection, an ear-infection and another sinus-infection (though Dr. Click thought it was jsut the same infection, doing the guided tour of my immuno-system), and I experienced the health-service trying to bully me into going on the six-month cure to cure a tuberculosis I dod not have in the first place (it was my BCG-vaccine - "but we had an Ethiopean here some years ago, who said he had the BCG-shot - and he got TB, so you have to take the cure"). I even got to watch a real, authentic girl-fight, with claw, cuing, screaming, tearing of hair - the works! - until the assistant principal came running into the room, jumping across desks like he was trying out for the '96 Olympics. I was a member of the band - the first live performance the band did after I joined it, was a festival - the tobacco festival! I got to see how Kentucky handled winter and snow - we had fifteen snowdays (days when there was no school because of snow), and had to make up for ten by the school lasting longer into the spring/summer. Quite amusing for a Norwegian, that is! At prom, I experienced being used by a girl in an attempt to extort some jealousy from her four year older boyfriend... (and I am not even good-looking, so that was a bit of a surprise, to say the least). I got to see a shuttle-launch, and got to go to the Epcot-centre, I visited Kentucky Kingdom (as part of my physics-class) and another park (King's Island, I think), I went to Washington DC (doing most of the regular tourist-stops). I did many things, as can be understood - Kentucky is an interesting place, but I must concede that being Norwegian, I am not likely to choose the bluegrass-state for my future abode. From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 2 17:21:10 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:21:10 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff References: <20010302142038.25243.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3A9FD681.F4B9699E@texas.net> Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've GOT to try. You start with cranberries, not canned things, and cranberries are only available down here for about the week preceding November, so I buy bags of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream in the summer. It is WONDERFUL--do you want it? --Amanda P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy and haven't written, sorry Sheryll Townsend wrote: > > --- Benjamin wrote: > The after-eight mint ice-cream is > > served at G&Ds; > > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves > > homemade icecream and > > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the > > Haagen Dazs round > > here that shuts at nine) > > > Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee > and my hours are very flexible, especially in the > summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned > that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must > crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! > > Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, > but only when she makes it herself > > ===== > "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and > taste good with ketchup." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail8C.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail23.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 2 17:21:44 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:21:44 -0000 Subject: Food again (was Re: Festivals) In-Reply-To: <97ok34+kjaj@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97okr8+qku0@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > (Snip) > Actually I can drink Guinness any time, except it would be difficult > on St. Patrick's Day as the place gets filled up by about half-a- > million Yanks [ducks]..... And English Guinness is occasionally so > disgusting I can't finish it, so only drink bitter in England (which > you can't get in Ireland...) Don't duck, Benjamin. Yanks abroad can be horrible. Sometimes I feel like I should *personally* apologise for my countrypeople if I ever do get over there. > > St. Patrick's Day festival would've been cool though, as they have 18 > tonnes of fireworks which they set off to music along the banks of > the river (which runs through the city centre). Only they're not > doing it now. Well not yet. Apparently they have already bought the > fireworks (which are otherwise illegal over here) so they'll be > exploding stuff somewhen... That sounds like fun. I tend to stay away from the St. Patrick's Day things over here. Don't do crowds very well. > > > > Simon: "Ginger is horrible!" > > It's a fantastic spice. And adds pizzaz to curry. And livens up > bacon and tomatoes a treat. Ginger is also good for upset tummies due to too much curry as well as for motion sickness (morning sickness too). > > Generalisations are always wrong. Including that one. > > -Ben. Parker From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 2 17:24:54 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:24:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions References: Message-ID: <3A9FD766.1AC4BA75@texas.net> Meredith Wilson wrote: > First, what are you doing in Kentucky?! That's hilarious about the > VCRs, too, since there's nothing to do in Lexington but watch TV, go > to the movies or out to eat. I just have to marvel at questions like > 'do you have cars.' > And I know there aren't any huge bodies of water in Kentucky, but they > hadn't even heard of whaling? You have no idea. I remember some real doozy questions from up-Northers, when my brother and I were driving my other brother's truck back to Texas from Syracuse. Granted, this was twenty-five years ago or something, but honestly, not all Texans own cows, not all of us ride horses, some of us don't have accents, and we don't all chew tobacco. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 17:31:28 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:31:28 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food again (was Re: Festivals) In-Reply-To: <97okr8+qku0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Simon: "Ginger is horrible!" Ben: "It's a fantastic spice. And adds pizzaz to curry. And livens up bacon and tomatoes a treat." Parker: "Ginger is also good for upset tummies due to too much curry as well as for motion sickness (morning sickness too)." Ah that would be where the problem is. If I eat anything with too much ginger in then I get a migraine at best and at worst a very upset stomach. This is annoying as I do agree that it makes food taste better, but with the problem that it makes me worse. Hence I just try to avoid it whenever possible, but can cope with small amounts. I retook the obsession thing and have made it up to 65%. This is beginning to worry me. Though I can see few areas where it can go up now, whereas last time I saw a few areas where it could go up. Simon -- 65% Obsessed with Harry Potter. How obsessed are you? Take The Harry Potter Obsession quiz at: http://www.fuuko.com/hpquiz.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 18:00:27 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <3A9FD681.F4B9699E@texas.net> Message-ID: <20010302180027.1411.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've > GOT to try. You > start with cranberries, not canned things, and > cranberries are only > available down here for about the week preceding > November, so I buy bags > of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream > in the summer. It > is WONDERFUL--do you want it? > > --Amanda > > P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy > and haven't > written, sorry > Oh my, yes, please. Cranberry ice cream, that's a new one for me. Since I can get fresh cranberries here, it should work out nicely. Glad to hear the tapes got there in one piece, Canada Post seems to have lost Neil's book, though I have an enquiry in to them to try an locate it. Now you just have to find 10 uninterrupted hours to watch the tapes - Hah, like that's going to happen! Hope you enjoy them. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From heiditandy at bigfoot.com Fri Mar 2 18:30:20 2001 From: heiditandy at bigfoot.com (heiditandy at bigfoot.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:30:20 -0000 Subject: I want... Message-ID: <97oors+ffns@eGroups.com> to be able to walk into the movie theater on November 16 with a bag of british candies & some real chocolate frogs... Of course, I really want to walk into a british movie theater, but that's almost a pipe dream... From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 18:33:26 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:33:26 -0000 Subject: Urgent question about, uh...food Message-ID: <97op1m+i63n@eGroups.com> What else? What's a knickerbocker glory (PS/SS ch 2)? In the US, that's a championship win by the NYC basketball team (heaven forbid). I don't know why they didn't translate it...maybe the editor had heard of one, but I haven't. Amy Z --------------------------------------------------------------- "Do you mean to tell me," he growled at the Dursleys, "that this boy--this boy!--knows nothin' abou'--about ANYTHING?" Harry thought this was going a bit far. -HP and the Philosopher's Stone --------------------------------------------------------------- From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 18:42:15 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:42:15 -0000 Subject: Urgent question about, uh...food In-Reply-To: <97op1m+i63n@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97opi7+5gmb@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > What else? > > What's a knickerbocker glory (PS/SS ch 2)? In the US, that's a > championship win by the NYC basketball team (heaven forbid). I don't > know why they didn't translate it...maybe the editor had heard of one, > but I haven't. > It's an ice-cream type thing, generally with random mixed fruit (peaches and things I think), and cream as well, served in a very tall glass - which looks even-more-huge if you are only eleven... knickerbockers were also something worn by small boys in victorian times... I think... So I'm not sure why the ice-cream is named so. -Ben. Dimmly aware of history. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 18:47:36 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:47:36 -0000 Subject: Knickerbockers In-Reply-To: <97opi7+5gmb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97ops8+pb44@eGroups.com> > It's an ice-cream type thing, generally with random mixed fruit > (peaches and things I think), and cream as well, served in a very > tall glass - which looks even-more-huge if you are only eleven... > > knickerbockers were also something worn by small boys in victorian > times... I think... So I'm not sure why the ice-cream is named so. Yeah, I think the NY Knicks got that name because of the clothes New Yorkers used to wear...when it was New Holland, I think? Vague associations swirling around, none of which have to do with ice cream or fruit. Thanks--now I can continue PS/SS in peace of mind, Amy Z From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 18:55:03 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:55:03 -0000 Subject: People abroad (was: Food again (was Re: Festivals)) In-Reply-To: <97okr8+qku0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97oqa7+82aj@eGroups.com> Parker wrote: > Don't duck, Benjamin. Yanks abroad can be horrible. Sometimes I > feel like I should *personally* apologise for my countrypeople if I > ever do get over there. > ['you' should be taken as general third person - I tried changing it, and it was even more unintelligible] I don't think you should ever personally apologise for other people* just 'cos they are/were from your country. You are not them, you do not necessarily support them, you probably don't act like them, you may even dislike them and/or think they are wrong. You can be sorry for what they have done, but that is not the same thing. It would be as well for some people here to remember that. *This is, of course, not applicable to presidents, monarchs, ambassadors etc. who _are_ apologising on behalf of the nation. just my two euros. -Ben. All generalisations are dangerous, including that one. From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Fri Mar 2 18:55:32 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:55:32 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: shooting and discussions References: <97oin3+kpcg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <003401c0a34a$5e14c220$5c59063e@tmeltcds> > > okay this might appear to be a bit of a gross question > > but i've been wondering about it ever since they > > started the burning. does the smoke smell like a big > > sunday roast being cooked? No. Smelt a bit like a barbecue. But obviously it made me sad to think of the reasons why I could smell that. Michelle From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 2 19:12:02 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:12:02 -0000 Subject: Knickerbockers (pants and desserts) In-Reply-To: <97ops8+pb44@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97ora2+idqb@eGroups.com> Re Knickerbocker Glory, Amy said: > Yeah, I think the NY Knicks got that name because of the clothes > New Yorkers used to wear...when it was New Holland, I think? Vague > associations swirling around, none of which have to do with ice cream > or fruit. I think I've answered that Knickerbocker Glory question four times now on the main list! It almost qualifies for the VFAQ. You're right - early New Yorkers (the men, I guess) were nicknamed Knickerbockers because of the trousers they wore. My assumption is that the Knickerbocker Glory is so called because the tall glass it comes in resembles the leg of a pair of knickerbockers. It's definitely time to get that 'Strictly British' stuff done for the Lexicon (Doreen is probably wondering why I haven't started it already..) Neil From xine48 at ync.net Fri Mar 2 19:19:51 2001 From: xine48 at ync.net (xine48 at ync.net) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:19:51 -0000 Subject: Knickerbockers In-Reply-To: <97ops8+pb44@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97oron+m2oo@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Yeah, I think the NY Knicks got that name because of the clothes > New Yorkers used to wear...when it was New Holland, I think? Vague > associations swirling around, none of which have to do with ice cream > or fruit. > > Thanks--now I can continue PS/SS in peace of mind, > Amy Z The Knickerbockers were a founding Dutch family of New York. Loosely the term Knickerbocker can be used to describe any New Yorker. That is where the NY Knicks name came from. Knickerbockers also the anme for short pants gathered under the knee, such as the type Golfer Payne Stewart wore as well as crosscountry skiers. From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 2 19:49:24 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:49:24 -0000 Subject: Accents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97otg4+437n@eGroups.com> > Haha! This cracked me up; several weeks back, I was phoning varios > tech support numbers in a vain search for help from MSN, and one of > the people I ended up speaking to was a young man in Kentucky. I'm > in Texas, and even with all the accents I hear, I could barely > understand him. I thought it was so funny, I kept repeating what I > thought he said, then he'd correct me. He probably thought I had an IQ of 3. He was extremely sweet, and gave me the most helpful advice I got that day. > Kelley > > > That cracks me up. And it makes me think back to when I was in New York working with the news and they did a report from Kentucky and they had to subtitle the poor guy! It is true that there are people, especially in the Eastern part of the state, that have some serious accents. I'm from there and I couldn't understand the guy, so I can understand where you're coming from! > > Mer Hahaha, that's too funny. There are some of those TX accents like that floating around, too. Happily, I don't have one, but I do use 'y'all' pretty regularly. Not in an Ellie May way, though. An invlaluable word... Kelley From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Fri Mar 2 20:25:01 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:25:01 -0000 Subject: Food, Food, Food, and Food Message-ID: <97ovit+21qd@eGroups.com> Wow, are we a little bit pre-occupied with food around here? Anyhoo, here a few of my favorite food sites, recipes included. http://cheerslove.org.uk This site is dedicated to breakfast, specifically the UK breakfast. http:/www.topsecretrecipes.com This site has copycat recipes for things like Girl Scout Cookies, KFC, etc. http://www.americastestkitchen.com This site has a few recipes. I haven't tried any of them yet, but the stir fry looks pretty good. http://recipes.alastra.com/ This is a huge recipe archive site http://soar.Berkeley.EDU/recipes/ Another recipe archives site. http://www.webtender.com A rather nice drinks site. :-)Milz who's been obssessed with finding a Guiness Punch recipe ever since watching a certain episode of "Chef!" From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 2 21:16:08 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:16:08 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tapes References: <20010302180027.1411.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d101c0a35e$0099b2e0$4d3770c2@c5s910j> Sheryll said to Amanda: > Glad to hear the tapes got there in one piece, Canada > Post seems to have lost Neil's book, though I have an > enquiry in to them to try an locate it. Now you just > have to find 10 uninterrupted hours to watch the tapes > - Hah, like that's going to happen! Hope you enjoy > them. Don't worry too much about the book, Sheryll - I guess it's lost. Theoretically, Amazon are still looking for the copy of Emerald House Rising I ordered from them, umpteen months ago... so, perhaps that one will show up! Which reminds me... I decided to order *your* tapes with a load of other stuff from WHSmiths Online, and for some reason they sent PoA on tape and CoS as a hardback book (the tape's details were correct and the price was obviously higher). They are sending the tape now and I should have it on Monday. I should have just walked into a shop and bought them, but I wanted to check out WHSmiths' internet service (silly me). Anyway, that's why I haven't sent them yet. Your money order arrived safely a couple of days ago, so the postal system does work... sometimes! Will be in touch off-list to let you know when I've sent the parcel. Neil Neil From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 22:05:32 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:05:32 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff Message-ID: I would love a cranberry ice cream recipe!! I have cranberries in my freezer as we speak... Mer **-----Original Message----- **From: Amanda Lewanski [mailto:editor at texas.net] **Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:21 AM **To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com **Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff ** ** **Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've GOT to try. You **start with cranberries, not canned things, and cranberries are only **available down here for about the week preceding November, so **I buy bags **of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream in the summer. It **is WONDERFUL--do you want it? ** **--Amanda ** **P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy and haven't **written, sorry ** **Sheryll Townsend wrote: ** **> **> --- Benjamin wrote: **> The after-eight mint ice-cream is **> > served at G&Ds; **> > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves **> > homemade icecream and **> > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the **> > Haagen Dazs round **> > here that shuts at nine) **> > **> Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee **> and my hours are very flexible, especially in the **> summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned **> that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must **> crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! **> **> Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, **> but only when she makes it herself **> **> ===== **> "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and **> taste good with ketchup." **> **> __________________________________________________ **> Do You Yahoo!? **> Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. **> http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ **> **> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ** [] ** **> **> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: **> HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com **> **> **> **> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ** From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 22:07:21 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:07:21 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions Message-ID: Meredith Wilson wrote: First, what are you doing in Kentucky?! That's hilarious about the VCRs, too, since there's nothing to do in Lexington but watch TV, go to the movies or out to eat. I just have to marvel at questions like 'do you have cars.' And I know there aren't any huge bodies of water in Kentucky, but they hadn't even heard of whaling? You have no idea. I remember some real doozy questions from up-Northers, when my brother and I were driving my other brother's truck back to Texas from Syracuse. Granted, this was twenty-five years ago or something, but honestly, not all Texans own cows, not all of us ride horses, some of us don't have accents, and we don't all chew tobacco. --Amanda LOL! I 'll have to show that to my very proud Texas friend who doesn't do any of those things. She doesn't even drive a truck... Mer From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 22:10:25 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:10:25 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tapes In-Reply-To: <00d101c0a35e$0099b2e0$4d3770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: Missed who said it, but can I have the Cranberry recipe? Please? Neil: "Don't worry too much about the book, Sheryll - I guess it's lost. Theoretically, Amazon are still looking for the copy of Emerald House Rising I ordered from them, umpteen months ago... so, perhaps that one will show up! Which reminds me... I decided to order *your* tapes with a load of other stuff from WHSmiths Online, and for some reason they sent PoA on tape and CoS as a hardback book (the tape's details were correct and the price was obviously higher). They are sending the tape now and I should have it on Monday. I should have just walked into a shop and bought them, but I wanted to check out WHSmiths' internet service (silly me). Anyway, that's why I haven't sent them yet." The joys of ordering online. I have ordered stuff through various companies and have only had a couple of problems, all concerning getting books from overseas. I am still waiting for BOL to get part of an order to me, only over 1 month after I ordered it. I think they may be getting e-mail from me soon, asking what is going on! When WHSmiths were taking ages getting Wild Swans to me they started e-mailing every other day to apologise that they were having trouble finding out what the hold up was in them getting the book (their supplier was not talking to them!). Amusingly the book arrived before these e-mails stopped. Goes to show how good communication is in these firms. Also they have answered my queries quickly, when I have had problems in the past (always within one working day). Most importantly though they got GoF to me on the release day (even if I had had problems with the pricing - which is when I tested their customer support to the full). Amazon always seems to be the quickest to get stuff to me. I have ordered at after 8 pm one evening and had the stuff the next day. Which is amazingly good service, and I was only using the normal posting service. They are, however, rarely the cheapest. Also their postage rates are higher than both BOL and WHSmiths. I have had to exercise my full self-control not to buy the audio books while they are at half price. I cannot justify such extravagance when I am a student. Guess I will wait until I am earning some of that money stuff when I grow up a bit. Simon -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain." Arthur Weasley - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 22:21:43 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:21:43 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Accents Message-ID: Hahaha, that's too funny. There are some of those TX accents like that floating around, too. Happily, I don't have one, but I do use 'y'all' pretty regularly. Not in an Ellie May way, though. An invlaluable word... Kelley Too true! Mer From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 22:23:27 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:23:27 -0000 Subject: Tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97p6gv+92cd@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > I have had to exercise my full self-control not to buy the audio books > while they are at half price. I cannot justify such extravagance when I am > a student. Guess I will wait until I am earning some of that money stuff > when I grow up a bit. > > > > Simon WHERE are they half-price? How much is that? Do they have CDs, too? Heather M. From simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 22:34:32 2001 From: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk (Simon) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:34:32 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tapes In-Reply-To: <97p6gv+92cd@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Simon: "I have had to exercise my full self-control not to buy the audio books while they are at half price. I cannot justify such extravagance when I am a student. Guess I will wait until I am earning some of that money stuff when I grow up a bit." Heather M.: "WHERE are they half-price? How much is that? Do they have CDs, too?" This would be WHSmiths Online: http://www.whsmith.co.uk/whs/Go.asp?Menu=Books&pagedef=/harrypotter/show.ht m&data=harrypotteraudio (link may need to be reconstructed, but they are there). I thought I had posted this a while back, but maybe it was in one of the chats that I mentioned it. They have all the already released Stephen Fry audio versions on offer (GoF does not come out for another month). With the CD and normal tapes being at half price. How much longer this offer will be on for I do not know, but it started nearly a fortnight ago. So possibly it is close to finishing. PS, CoS and PoA are all around ?20 in price after the reduction. This is about 30 of those US dollar things. The set of three CD versions, including US/Canadian postage, is ?76 (about US$110). How they can manage to sell them at half price I cannot answer. Guess buy in bulk and having little overheads is the answer. Note that all prices quoted are taken from the site in question in good faith, but may have changed by the time you view it. I accept no responsibility for incorrect exchange rate or for price changes between now and whenever you go and take a look. Simon -- HPforGrownUps is the place for the best weekly chat about all things related to the Harry Potter series by J.K. Rowling. That chats are on Sunday, starting at around 8 pm GMT. For more information please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts or feel free to e-mail me at mailto:simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Fri Mar 2 22:41:37 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:41:37 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions Message-ID: >I was in Kentucky as an echange-student, being a hig-school junior >1993-93. I was in Garrard County (pronounced Gear-ard by locals), >which was an interesting experience. When I first arrived, >temperature was in the mid 90s, with heat-index in excess of 120 - >and the school did not have air-condition... At high-school, I found >that it is indeed possible for a Norwegian and a Japanese exchange- >student to be the two best students in the US-History-class (I got >the diploma), my algebra-teacher gave tests with 11 questions, each >counting 10%. We always said 'GEH-rud' but I'm from Fayette county, so I guess they're more correct... And I have to add 'I'm sorry.' That's near Lancaster, right? Quite rural. I lived in Boyle county a while (Danville) and I have to say I like it better here. Heck, I even like it better in Lexington! >I got a sinus-infection, a lympho-knob-infection, an ear-infection >and another sinus-infection (though Dr. Click thought it was jsut the >same infection, doing the guided tour of my immuno-system), and I >experienced the health-service trying to bully me into going on the >six-month cure to cure a tuberculosis I dod not have in the first >place (it was my BCG-vaccine - "but we had an Ethiopean here some >years ago, who said he had the BCG-shot - and he got TB, so you have >to take the cure"). Yeah, I finally got a diagnosis of something they'd been working on in KY to figure out for close to 10 years. I'm sorry about that... >I was a member of the band - the first live performance the band did >after I joined it, was a festival - the tobacco festival! Again, it's a bit better around Lexington or Louisville... a bit... >At prom, I experienced being used by a girl in an attempt to extort >some jealousy from her four year older boyfriend... (and I am not >even good-looking, so that was a bit of a surprise, to say the least). Ah, Kentucky high school girls... well, it was an experience I guess. >I got to see a shuttle-launch, and got to go to the Epcot-centre, I >visited Kentucky Kingdom (as part of my physics-class) and another >park (King's Island, I think), I went to Washington DC (doing most of >the regular tourist-stops). Although Kentucky Kingdom was pretty lame, then especially, they've been purchased by Six Flags, so I have hope for it. King's Island on the other hand, I adore. I tried to plan my last trip home so I could go, but it ended up being 29 degrees the day I wanted to go, which isn't great roller coaster weather. Sad. That's one thing Seattle is missing! We have earthquakes instead! >I did many things, as can be understood - Kentucky is an interesting >place, but I must concede that being Norwegian, I am not likely to >choose the bluegrass-state for my future abode. I hear ya! That's why I live here now, not there. It's not that I think it's a horrible place, quite the contrary. It's beautiful mostly, and I enjoy visiting, but I'm glad I'm here instead. Thanks for the story... I got to reminisce and shake my head sadly about my homeland. :) Mer From klaatu at primenet.com Fri Mar 2 23:56:26 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:56:26 -0700 Subject: What kind of dog are you" Message-ID: Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: http://www.emode.com/ and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out what breed he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== From pbnesbit at msn.com Sat Mar 3 00:19:42 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:19:42 -0000 Subject: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97pdau+3pfc@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: > > http://www.emode.com/ > > and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out what breed > he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? > > SML > > ============================================== > "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth > gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. > "Harry, Harry, Harry." > Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. > ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets > ============================================== SML-- I took the test for Sirius. Turns out he's an Irish Setter!! A lot of the questions were hard, since we know so little about him. I'd like to take the test for him when we know more! Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 00:47:44 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:47:44 -0000 Subject: Rambling over Kentucky (was Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97pevg+4epr@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: [snip] > We always said 'GEH-rud' but I'm from Fayette county, so I guess > they're more correct... And I have to add 'I'm sorry.' That's > near Lancaster, right? Quite rural. I lived in Boyle county a > while (Danville) and I have to say I like it better here. Heck, I > even like it better in Lexington! I lived *in* Lancaster, in fact - and yes, it was rural, more so even than Lofoten, Norway (whence I hail). My hostmother's parents lived in danville, so I was there quite often. Many Sundays I listened to the Rev. Otis Clark in the local congregation of Disciples of Christ. ::sigh:: I prefer Church of Norway, truth be told.The ceremonial of the Church of Norway seemed less theatrical to me thaan the lack of same in Disciples of Christ. I'll add that i am not a particularly religious person. In London, they aparently say G?rrard (they have a jeweller's firm that's called Garrard's - thieves stole an emerald-diadem belonging to Queen Sonja, inherited from Queen Maud (daughter of Edward VII) when it was at Garrard's for maintenance and repairs). > Yeah, I finally got a diagnosis of something they'd been working on > in KY to figure out for close to 10 years. I'm sorry about that... Well, I never did have to take that cure - taking the TB-cure when it is not needed is not a smart thing to do, and can in fact work to promote resistant TB. Dr Click wrote the healthdepartment a letter that in all likelihood was just as stern as the letter I got threatening to throw me out of USA if I did not get that TB-test ASAP. I'll add that all the sinus-infections got me acquainted with a significant number of antibiotics, one of which was to be flushed down with cranberry-juice. I trust you will forgive that I look upon cranberry-juice with less than benevolent eyes. [snip] > Ah, Kentucky high school girls... well, it was an experience I > guess. Both he and her were in the band, her being 14 and pregnant, me being 18 and him being 20. I think they had a row beforehand, and he did not seem to care at all (which, truth be told, was lucky for me and my good health) I noticed that most teachers did not react to girls putting on make- up in class... Not all girls did it of course, but those who did made up for those who didn't. Comparing US highschool and Norwegian upper secondary school, the teacher-student realtionship is very different - in Norway we are on first-name basis with all teachers - it even extends to university in some cases. It is not unheard of that if an upper-sec teacher and a student are both out on the town a Friday or Saturday night, they might have a drink together (you can buy alcohol from age 18 in Norway). In general, the teacher's authority is relying less on rules and more on what respect s/he actually has earned in the class- room. [snip] > Although Kentucky Kingdom was pretty lame, then especially, they've > been purchased by Six Flags, so I have hope for it. King's Island > on the other hand, I adore. I tried to plan my last trip home so I > could go, but it ended up being 29 degrees the day I wanted to go, > which isn't great roller coaster weather. Sad. That's one thing > Seattle is missing! We have earthquakes instead! Well, Kentucky Kingdom nearly destroyed my back - I had to crawl out of bed of my stomach for several months afterwards. Come to think about it, I should have sued them - could have landed myself some millions there. There was this lawyer with real tacky commercials on the Kentucky networks... What happened was that I was assigned a rollercoaster called the star-chaser, which is in a building without lighting. It only had oldfashioned aircraft-style seatbelts, and I was supposed to measure acceleration there (it was a physics-project, after all...) When I got out, my back really was hurting. I agree on King's Island - it was great. I chose to stay away from the rollercoasters, though... The physics-teacher who took us to Kentucky Kingdom was really great. In her classes, we built kites of balsa and garbage-bags, we built model rockets, we built rubberband-powered cars, racing them in the school corridors - I liked her. Like all good teachers I've had, her authority was based on her being fair and knowing her subject well, while also being able to transfer that knowledge to us. [snip] Have you, btw, any recollection of Ale-8-One? Just had to ask! One thing I noted in USA was the size of supermarkets - they were large. Wal-Mart and K-Mart particularly are a phenomenon not seen in Norway. The biggest store I saw, however, was a Meyer-store. It dwarfed even the largest K-/Walmart-stores - 36 cashregisters, I believe, all of them busy. The food-section dwarfed the large grocery-stores in Danville, for certain. Regards Christian Stub?, who shakes his head sadly over his homeland on a daily basis. From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 3 01:22:52 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:22:52 -0000 Subject: Accents Message-ID: <97ph1c+pid5@eGroups.com> I'm originally from Illinois, but have family in Tennessee, so the southern accent thing was never a big deal or problem with me--until I moved to very rural North Carolina. I had an awful time getting used the way they talked, but I was nowhere near as bad as my friend Traci, who originated from NYC. Soon after she and her boyfriend Eric moved to town they went to Shoney's for dinner. Hostess--"Bacon, or no bacon?" Traci--"Excuse me?" Hostess--"Bacon,or no bacon?" Traci aside to Eric--"Why does she want to know if we want bacon?" Eric to Traci--"She wants to know if we want "smoking or no smoking." When she told the rest of transplanted Yankees this story, we laughed hysterically and from then on, whenever we went out to eat, we had to ask Traci if we wanted the "Bacon or no bacon" section. Trina From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 01:33:02 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:33:02 -0000 Subject: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97phke+uqf3@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: > > http://www.emode.com/ > > and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out what breed > he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? I tried it a couple of different ways and couldn't get him to come out a shaggy black dog (I picture him as a Newfie--are they ever black?). He was a Golden one time and a Great Dane another. I DON'T think so. Maybe I made him too sociable? Are we talking pre- or post-trauma? Here's a new career area: Veterinary Psychologist to Fictional Animals. Amy Z From ebonyink at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 01:44:15 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:44:15 -0000 Subject: People abroad (was: Food again (was Re: Festivals)) In-Reply-To: <97oqa7+82aj@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Hi, everyone! Parker wrote: > > Don't duck, Benjamin. Yanks abroad can be horrible. Sometimes I > > feel like I should *personally* apologise for my countrypeople if I ever do get over there. :::snorts::: Isn't the idea of "dumb American" a useless stereotype? When I was in high school, we had exchange students from Britain, Finland, and Argentina... in inner-city Detroit. They were just as clueless as I'm sure I'll be this summer. I don't plan to venture into London alone... we've been told to venture out in groups at all times. Neither would I advise anyone from a foreign country (or for that matter, anyone not from around here) to walk the streets of my old neighborhood after dark by themselves. Parker's sentiment is understandable... there are plenty of idiot Americans. But idiots aren't exclusive to our country. If I had based my views of England on the exchange student we had senior year from Liverpool (who looked down her nose at *everything* even when we bent over backwards to be nice to her--don't believe half of what you hear about city kids, please), I never would have gone within a thousand miles of the British Isles. She's the only English person I've ever met, and she was also one of the meanest and pettiest. My best friend, whose family hosted her, was regularly in tears during the semester she was there. (I'm just relating this story to illustrate the fact that boorishness comes in all shapes, sizes, colors, and nationalities... and it speaks all languages, too.) I'll be happy to experience England, and I'll be properly respectful of local custom as I learn it, but I don't see the need to apologize for being American. Or beingan exchange student. There are much worse sins. :) I'm more worried about practical things: what shall I eat? Where can I get my hair done? (Only women with hair like mine can appreciate that... for us, the salon's not a luxury, it is a bitter necessity.) How much will it cost to call home? What's the nightlife like? Are there church services? Most importantly, how much will it cost to subsist from day to day as a student? You see, I'm spoiled when it comes to exchange rates. I'm used to going over to Ontario every weekend and getting a hugely favorable exchange rate... the American dollar is worth a bit more than the Canadian... and in most Ontario touristy spots (everywhere in our sister city of Windsor) American money is accepted and you get American change back. OTOH, just try giving someone in SE Michigan Canadian funds... we'd laugh at you. I doubt that our Benjamins are similarly panted after on the other side of the pond. I've already been warned that I will wince when my dollars are magically transformed into pounds. And to think that you guys don't have many monolith discount stores... :::cringes::: --Ebony AKA AngieJ (a little disappointed that no one's jumping up and down with her about her trip, but will get over it) From pbnesbit at msn.com Sat Mar 3 01:51:53 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:51:53 -0000 Subject: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: <97phke+uqf3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pinp+8vci@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" > wrote: > > Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: > > > > http://www.emode.com/ > > > > and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out > what breed > > he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? > > I tried it a couple of different ways and couldn't get him to come out > a shaggy black dog (I picture him as a Newfie--are they ever black?). > He was a Golden one time and a Great Dane another. I DON'T think so. > Maybe I made him too sociable? Are we talking pre- or post-trauma? > > Here's a new career area: Veterinary Psychologist to Fictional > Animals. > > Amy Z I always picture Sirius as a big black Newfie. The character fits-- sweet as heck to most people (especially children) but woe be to *anyone* who messes with their people. They are known as the gentlest breed (if you've seen or read "Peter Pan", Nana was a Newfie). Males, especially are huge--32 inches at the shoulder is breed standard for males, 150 pounds is normal. Oh, they have a *thundering* bark. It literally will shake the floor! Peace & Plenty, Parker Applying for the Veterinary Psychologist to Fictional Animals (Animagi?)position From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 01:24:16 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:24:16 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What kind of dog are you" References: Message-ID: <006001c0a380$aab369c0$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Great Danemead (aka Sister Mary Loony) said: > Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: > > http://www.emode.com/ > > and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out what breed > he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? Dunno about Sirius, but I came out as a Basset Hound. It said I was really laid back and easy going and love "down time". Who, me? Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 01:56:28 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:56:28 -0000 Subject: Obsession rating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97pj0c+atrp@eGroups.com> Miraculously, this post is not about food. (Now if there were a sweets obsession quiz, I'd get 190%). I retook the obsession quiz and have risen to 63% from 40-something. Having reread the books a couple more times and had some HP dreams (nothing I can remember clearly, or I'd report them here in detail) notched it up a bit. Also, I bought a Hogwarts t-shirt recently. I don't think I'm ever going to stock up merchandise, 'cause I just hate the drawings of most of the characters. They even mangled the eagle on the t-shirt, but at least it doesn't have a picture of Harry On Quaaludes. I'm tempted by the sorting hat bookends, but I can't see ever owning 5 pieces of merchandise, so that question will remain as is. Amy Z ------------------------------------------------ "I admit it is more fun to punt than to be punted, and that a desire to have all the fun is nine-tenths of the law of chivalry." --Peter Wimsey, in Gaudy Night by Dorothy L. Sayers ------------------------------------------------ From nlpnt at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 01:56:29 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:56:29 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <380041953.983489268060.JavaMail.root@web572-mc> Message-ID: <97pj0d+35b6@eGroups.com> "The car's falling 'cause the transmission's blown", said Ron automatically. "The test's TODAY!? I thought it was tomorrow! Where's that Time- Turner!?", said Hermione lackadaisically. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 02:00:43 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:00:43 -0000 Subject: Ebony abroad In-Reply-To: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pj8b+g78n@eGroups.com> > --Ebony AKA AngieJ (a little disappointed that no one's jumping up > and down with her about her trip, but will get over it) It's because we're insanely jealous, love. All those weekends to visit Hogsmeade! Amy Z rapidly losing my grip on reality does that mean I can up my obsession rating? From pbnesbit at msn.com Sat Mar 3 02:01:30 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:01:30 -0000 Subject: People abroad (was: Food again (was Re: Festivals)) In-Reply-To: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pj9q+6lrf@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > Hi, everyone! > (Snip) > I'm more worried about practical things: what shall I eat? Where > can I get my hair done? (Only women with hair like mine can > appreciate that... for us, the salon's not a luxury, it is a bitter > necessity.) How much will it cost to call home? What's the > nightlife like? Are there church services? Is it time to do braids, Ebony? Seriously, I think in London there will be hairdressers who do hair like yours--London has quite a large Caribbean population, I believe. Good luck (I think you can call the BTA--British Tourist Authority & find stuff like that out--e-mail me off list & I'll give you their telephone number, I believe it's toll- free) > > Most importantly, how much will it cost to subsist from day to day as > a student? > > You see, I'm spoiled when it comes to exchange rates. I'm used to > going over to Ontario every weekend and getting a hugely favorable > exchange rate... the American dollar is worth a bit more than the > Canadian... and in most Ontario touristy spots (everywhere in our > sister city of Windsor) American money is accepted and you get > American change back. OTOH, just try giving someone in SE Michigan > Canadian funds... we'd laugh at you. > > I doubt that our Benjamins are similarly panted after on the other > side of the pond. I've already been warned that I will wince when my > dollars are magically transformed into pounds. And to think that you > guys don't have many monolith discount stores... :::cringes::: > > --Ebony AKA AngieJ (a little disappointed that no one's jumping up > and down with her about her trip, but will get over it) I'm excited for you, Eb. I've wanted to go to England since I was 4-- I've always thought I was born in the wrong country! Parker (who's damn jealous Ebony gets to go to England & she doesn't From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 02:10:41 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:10:41 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pjr1+ildr@eGroups.com> > Can you think of others? > > -Jim Flanagan "We do seem to run through them, don't we?" pondered Dumbledore dadaistically. Of course, if it were really dadaist it would be incomprehensible. Amy Z From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 3 02:10:29 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:10:29 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] People abroad (was: Food again (was Re: Festivals)) References: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA05295.9F31804E@texas.net> Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > --Ebony AKA AngieJ (a little disappointed that no one's jumping up and > down with her about her trip, but will get over it) Oh, I'm sorry, Ebony! When I got offline I went and told my husband all about it, and we were all excited for you and wishing we could go and he was telling me about earlier, pre-Mandy England trips and all sorts of things. Forgot you couldn't hear us. A J I N -- M N A, U P N O A D M G W (hope that worked; took a while to get it right) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 02:25:11 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:25:11 -0000 Subject: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97lefp+3al8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pkm7+9s7s@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > Oh, there's no question about that (even if the seats on the Hogwarts > Express ar not slashed). The one I'm trying to figure out is how > they enter and exit the carriage - through doors at each end, or > through doors directly to each compartment. > Whoa, I thought I was following the whole description but you lost me there. Let's say the train is headed due north and the platform is on the west side of the train. Okay, the way I followed your theory is that the corridor runs along the east side, the compartments along the west side of the train, and that there is a door on the west side (onto the platform) and on the east side (into the corridor). This permits Harry to load his trunk directly off the platform (with some help from Gred and Forge ) and also permits people to come in and out via the corridor. Now you seem to be introducing the possibility of a north and/or south entrance to the compartment? a la Amtrak (which has ONLY a north and south entrance, with no way directly out of a compartment onto the platform)? BTW, I like the east- and west-door possibility but I don't think it's strictly necessary. Maybe Harry loaded his trunk onto the train and then took it along the corridor and into the only (the east) door. I don't have a PoA with me, but IIRC, it seems to imply a single door...they keep looking out the window to the outside--wouldn't it say out the door if it were a door to the outside? Amy Z dangerously close to on-topic but sufficiently long-winded to keep this post on this list From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 02:27:56 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:27:56 -0000 Subject: Sneetches In-Reply-To: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> Message-ID: <97pkrc+9s8t@eGroups.com> Amanda wrote: > > Sneetches are Dr. Seuss creatures, from "The Sneetches and Other > Stories" which includes my personal favorite, "Too Many Daves." > Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave > Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave? Are you aware that you posted this on St. David's Day? Amy Z fan of the Zax From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 3 02:30:58 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:30:58 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Sneetches References: <97pkrc+9s8t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA05762.64CA0AEF@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > > Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave > > Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave? > > Are you aware that you posted this on St. David's Day? Wow, no. *ahem* Of COURSE I was aware, how observant of you to pick that up.....have a daffodil. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 02:11:46 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:11:46 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] People abroad /Ebony's survival in London References: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <007f01c0a387$618cbe20$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Ebony said: <<<:::snorts::: Isn't the idea of "dumb American" a useless stereotype? When I was in high school, we had exchange students from Britain, Finland, and Argentina... in inner-city Detroit. They were just as clueless as I'm sure I'll be this summer. >>> I can imagine . Although people from particular countries can exhibit similar traits, it doesn't make sense to throw a huge blanket over an entire nation; some things just *don't* work at the population level. Just for the record, "being dumb" is certainly not the first thing that springs to my mind as a defining characteristic of Americans. <<>> Hmmm. It sounds like you'll need a survival pack for your visit, Ebony! I'd be happy to check out anything for you ahead of time if you send me a list of questions. Apart from the fact that it's really expensive, London is very cosmopolitan (for example, I doubt you'll have trouble finding somewhere to get your hair done, or a suitably active church), but it helps to get an insider's view. I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling in the US this year and the things I've picked up from this list will help me enormously. For example, I'll be able order biscuits and not look surprised when they bring me some sort of mutant scone smothered in sausage gravy (does it have chunks of sausage in it... okay... leave it). I may try dropping a twinkie out of a hotel window. I'll remember to turn on the Universal Translator when talking about vests, pants, suspenders and jumpers. I won't roll over any bonnets... You can expect me to be posting the daftest questions about US life in future months. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From klaatu at primenet.com Sat Mar 3 02:43:32 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:43:32 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: <97phke+uqf3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: I was upset that the test did not include Newfoundland breed as one of the possible results. They need to expand their dog selection. Why include Bernese Mountain Dogs, which I've never hear of, and not include Newfies? ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: Amy Z [mailto:aiz24 at hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:33 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What kind of dog are you" --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Want to find out what kind of doggie personality you have? Go to: > > http://www.emode.com/ > > and take the test. Somebody do it for Sirius and let's find out what breed > he REALLY is... Carole, are you there? I tried it a couple of different ways and couldn't get him to come out a shaggy black dog (I picture him as a Newfie--are they ever black?). He was a Golden one time and a Great Dane another. I DON'T think so. Maybe I made him too sociable? Are we talking pre- or post-trauma? Here's a new career area: Veterinary Psychologist to Fictional Animals. Amy Z To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 02:52:24 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:52:24 -0000 Subject: Railroad carriage question (woefully long) In-Reply-To: <97pkm7+9s7s@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pm98+erlf@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > > Oh, there's no question about that (even if the seats on the > Hogwarts > > Express ar not slashed). The one I'm trying to figure out is how > > they enter and exit the carriage - through doors at each end, or > > through doors directly to each compartment. > > > > Whoa, I thought I was following the whole description but you lost > me there. > > Let's say the train is headed due north and the platform is on the > west side of the train. Okay, the way I followed your theory is > that the corridor runs along the east side, the compartments along > the west side of the train, and that there is a door on the west > side (onto the platform) and on the east side (into the corridor). > This permits Harry to load his trunk directly off the platform > (with some help from Gred and Forge ) and also permits people to > come in and out via the corridor. And there are also doors on the east-side of the carriage, in case that happens to be the side facing the platform. > Now you seem to be introducing the possibility of a north and/or > south entrance to the compartment? a la Amtrak (which has ONLY a > north and south entrance, with no way directly out of a > compartment onto the platform)? Well, that *is* how post-1910 compartment-carriages have been organised, with entrance- and exit-doors at each end of the carriage, leaging into the corridor. Oh, I'll just draw a picture and slap it up - much easier to explain that way. The East- *and West-doors would be a strictly British approach to things. > BTW, I like the east- and west-door possibility but I don't think > it's strictly necessary. Maybe Harry loaded his trunk onto the > train and then took it along the corridor and into the only (the > east) door. > > I don't have a PoA with me, but IIRC, it seems to imply a single > door...they keep looking out the window to the outside--wouldn't it > say out the door if it were a door to the outside? There would be a window in the door, and one on each side of the door. > Amy Z > dangerously close to on-topic but sufficiently long-winded to keep > this post on this list From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 02:53:31 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:53:31 -0000 Subject: People abroad /Ebony's survival in London In-Reply-To: <007f01c0a387$618cbe20$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97pmbb+hulh@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Ebony said: > get my hair done? (Only women with hair like mine can appreciate that... > for us, the salon's not a luxury, it is a bitter necessity.) How much will > it cost to call home? What's the > nightlife like? Are there church services? Most importantly, how much > will it cost to subsist from day to day as > a student?>>> > Neil said : > I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling in the US this year and the things > I've picked up from this list will help me enormously. For example, I'll be > able order biscuits and not look surprised when they bring me some sort of > mutant scone smothered in sausage gravy (does it have chunks of sausage in > it... okay... leave it). I may try dropping a twinkie out of a hotel > window. I'll remember to turn on the Universal Translator when talking > about vests, pants, suspenders and jumpers. I won't roll over any > bonnets... Ebony!! That's FANTASTIC! How exciting! You're going to LOVE it and you will not have many problems, really. It's a great place to be a student. Don't worry about venturing out alone in London. It's not dangerous like American cities are. I've been everywhere alone in London. There are bad neighborhoods, don't get me wrong, but you don't have to travel in a pack of Americans. In fact, I rec. that you don't. Find a local pub on a side street. One tourists don't see because it's not next to some tourist attraction or other. Meet locals. they are GREAT people - don't let the idea we have they are stuck up or boring fool you (I don't think you would, 'knowing' the folks on this list). Talk to them. Buy them a pint or two. G to Camden and get your hair braided. Then you won't have to worry about getting it done. Where do you live? I have friends all over here who can braid it before you leave. Neil: I laughed my tail off at your "mutant scone" comment. I was at the Teeter today and bought a small travel-sized pack of bisquick for you. I'll show you a mutant scone! (the Teeter is a local grocery store.) Wednesday the 14th, right? Heather M. From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 02:30:14 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:30:14 -0000 Subject: Correction: Ebony's survival in ....England References: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> <007f01c0a387$618cbe20$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <00a401c0a389$e1ae08a0$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Okay.... *now* I've read Ebony's original post, I can see that she won't be staying in London, only visiting! Just call me a dumb Brit. I've had one of those days.... Ebony, of course we should meet up, and after my NY trip you'll be able to find out from John, Jeralyn, Jim and the gang whether I'm the safe kind of serial killer or the kind to avoid . The only thing that worries me a bit is that I might be in the US when you decide to come to London for a trip. I laughed when you said you didn't want to reveal your HP obsession! Won't it be difficult to meet up with any of us without HP being mentioned at all? Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 02:47:45 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:47:45 -0000 Subject: McCauley Culkin Message-ID: <015e01c0a38c$540f1f40$2b3570c2@c5s910j> On the main list Ebony asked what the Home Alone star was up to these days. He's been appearing in Madame Melville (a stage play) in London. It's about a 15 year old boy who is seduced by his French teacher. Culkin had rave reviews - apparently he was brilliant in it. Not sure if he screamed.... Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebonyink at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 03:28:32 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:28:32 -0000 Subject: Yay! Now everyone else is excited too! Message-ID: <97pod0+i5o5@eGroups.com> Thanks so much for the travel tips, guys! Neil, rest assured I'll be e-mailing you re: London and Simon again re: Oxford. I'll also arrange it so I *won't* miss you... we have to meet so I can bring you a Detroit Red Wings keychain or cap or something. Heather, I'd love to meet up... in fact, can't wait! Will take you up on the offer for braids. The way you make it sound, if it's that idyllic, I may end up moving there. :) Only problem: don't have a magic wand, so I can't visit Diagon Alley. :( The solution is to get my hair braided right before I leave home, and then get it re-braided somewhere in England. You wash braids on the same schedule as regular hair, so they start to unravel and frizz. One of my personal pet peeves is bad hair--I like to be well-groomed even on a trip. Amanda, Parker, I'm not trying to rub it in, really! I'll have online access during the whole trip... what else are notebook computers for? I'll take pictures and post them to the Files section of one of the groups. Only problem: it's going to be really hard explaining why I have to meet all these British friends. And when I insist on seeing King's Cross Station, they'll really start suspecting things. And... if there is any major Harry Potter event while I'm there, the cat's out of the bag. I'm there. So now I'm praying there will be secret Harry Potter fans there along with me... we can sit around and giggle about being in England together. I'm sure it'll be a blast. Looking back at the England vs. Spain dilemma, I wonder what the debate actually was. :) I'll keep you guys updated! --Ebony AKA AngieJ From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 3 03:34:45 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:34:45 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97pjr1+ildr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pool+da6f@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Can you think of others? > > "I'll fix your injuries, Harry," said Lockhart disarmingly. "I think I left my watch on Tom Riddle's tombstone," said Harry cryptically. "Did you hear the one about the 4000-lb German wizard?" asked Karkaroff Teutonically - CMC From ebonyink at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 03:35:48 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:35:48 -0000 Subject: McCauley Culkin In-Reply-To: <015e01c0a38c$540f1f40$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97poqk+oeam@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > On the main list Ebony asked what the Home Alone star was up to these days. He's been appearing in Madame Melville (a stage play) in London. It's about a 15 year old boy who is seduced by his French teacher. Culkin had rave reviews - apparently he was brilliant in it. Not sure if he screamed.... Wow! Thanks for the tip, Neil. "Yes, Virginia, too-adorable kid actors *can* grow up and find success." For every Gary Coleman, there's a Jodie Foster. For every Beaver Cleaver (what was the actor's name? I'm showing my age...), there's a Drew Barrymore. And for every Elizabeth Taylor... wait a sec. Never mind. --Ebony AKA AngieJ From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 3 03:42:35 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:42:35 -0000 Subject: Shakespeare's Tempest (filk) Message-ID: <97pp7b+art9@eGroups.com> William Shakespeare's The Tempest Now, sit right back and you'll hear a tale Of a Rennaisance power trip That starts off with the Milan Court Aboard some leaky ship. They banished Prospero years before And sullied themselves with crime; But the Duke of M's learned a magic act, And now it's payback time, And now it's payback time! The weather then starts getting rough (That's the "Tempest," don't you know); With special effects by the potent art Of the protean Prospero. Their ship sets ground on the shore of his Exotic isle exile With Caliban.... Gonzalo, too... Alonso and his son...... Trinculo..... Miranda and Ariel - here on Prospero's Island! Now, Ariel the airy sprite Will do his very best To confound the co-conspirators, While Miranda and Fred play chess. No death! No gore! No severed heads! Not a single fatality! Like Cymbeline or Winter's Tale, It's redemptive as can be. And then at the end a staff gets broke, And it's back to Milan they go; And here's the message of our play: "Live Long and Prospero!" - CMC From pbnesbit at msn.com Sat Mar 3 03:48:19 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:48:19 -0000 Subject: McCauley Culkin In-Reply-To: <015e01c0a38c$540f1f40$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97ppi3+kaun@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > On the main list Ebony asked what the Home Alone star was up to these days. He's been appearing in Madame Melville (a stage play) in London. It's about a 15 year old boy who is seduced by his French teacher. Culkin had rave reviews - apparently he was brilliant in it. Not sure if he screamed.... > > Neil > > ________________________________________ > > flying_ford_anglia > > "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, > was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint > of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] > Culkin's also been quite busy getting separated from Rachel Miner, whom he married about 2 years ago, when they were both 17. Parker From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 03:52:25 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:52:25 -0000 Subject: Trains again Message-ID: <97pppp+ph5i@eGroups.com> I posted some floorplans of the different types of compartment- carriages I've been talking about. They are not to any scale, apart from having tried to retain a wee bit of proportions - they are really only the barest of sketches. Sometimes, I've shown a standard door when it should infact have been a sliding-door, but it was faster, and is probably easier to read, that way. Here is the oldest form of compartment-carriage - not much to it, really: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt1.jpg Here is the modern style of compartment-carriage, as used on European railroads: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt3.jpg Here is what I envision for the Hogwarts Express: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt2.jpg From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 04:08:09 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:08:09 -0000 Subject: Yay! Now everyone else is excited too! In-Reply-To: <97pod0+i5o5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pqn9+71g9@eGroups.com> Ebony wrote: > The solution is to get my hair braided right before I leave home, and > then get it re-braided somewhere in England. You wash braids on the > same schedule as regular hair, so they start to unravel and frizz. > One of my personal pet peeves is bad hair--I like to be well- groomed > even on a trip. How long will you be there? I was imagining African braids. (IE, extensions) (My hubs is from Senegal - my last name is Mbaye.) Not really like cornrows or braiding your own hair. that's harder to manage, I guess. My friend D. lives on long Island, some other friends in Arkanasas who braid... Now this is a weird topic! New friends: here's my webpage: http://www.unc.edu/~hadm/ Heather M. From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 3 04:09:42 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:09:42 -0000 Subject: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: <006001c0a380$aab369c0$2b3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97pqq6+9qr9@eGroups.com> > Dunno about Sirius, but I came out as a Basset Hound. It said I was really laid back and easy going and love "down time". Who, me? > > Neil I came out as a Golden Retriever the 1st time (loved parties,etc) and thought "that is *so* not me" that I took it again and came out as a Bernese Mountain Dog, practical and dependable...I don't know...I think I'm more of a cat myself... Trina From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 3 04:17:54 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:17:54 -0000 Subject: People abroad /Ebony's survival in London In-Reply-To: <97pmbb+hulh@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97pr9i+lnc9@eGroups.com> Heather wrote: I was at the Teeter today and bought a small travel-sized pack of bisquick for you. I'll show you a mutant scone! (the Teeter is a local grocery store.) Would that be the Harris Teeter, Heather? Maybe you need to introduce our favorite Flying Ford Anglia to grits as well. LOL Trina, relieved that our school's SACS review is over and we impressed the heck out of our visitors and is feeling a bit silly. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 04:25:33 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:25:33 -0000 Subject: People abroad /Ebony's survival in London In-Reply-To: <97pr9i+lnc9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97prnt+h8i2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Trina" wrote: > Heather wrote: > > I was at the Teeter today and bought a small travel-sized pack of > bisquick for you. I'll show you a mutant scone! (the Teeter is a > local grocery store.) > > > Would that be the Harris Teeter, Heather? Maybe you need to introduce > our favorite Flying Ford Anglia to grits as well. LOL > > Trina, relieved that our school's SACS review is over and we > impressed the heck out of our visitors and is feeling a bit silly. Yep, that's the Harris Teeter! :-) LOL! We call it the Teeter. Heather M. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 04:26:42 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:26:42 -0000 Subject: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <97prnt+h8i2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97prq2+duh4@eGroups.com> I am REALLY embarrassed to admit this. I'm a poodle. Heather M. From shades_of_black at mail.com Sat Mar 3 04:35:39 2001 From: shades_of_black at mail.com (Morsus Crustum) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:35:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tom Swifites Message-ID: <384517886.983594139212.JavaMail.root@web572-mc> Hmm. Does this count? "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected. Morsus Crustum ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From klaatu at primenet.com Sat Mar 3 04:50:57 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:50:57 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Shakespeare's Tempest (filk) In-Reply-To: <97pp7b+art9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Gilligan!!!! Oh, what warped lives we lead... Another Grammy for Caius, please. SM Loony -----Original Message----- From: Caius Marcius [mailto:coriolan at worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:43 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Shakespeare's Tempest (filk) William Shakespeare's The Tempest Now, sit right back and you'll hear a tale Of a Rennaisance power trip That starts off with the Milan Court Aboard some leaky ship. They banished Prospero years before And sullied themselves with crime; But the Duke of M's learned a magic act, And now it's payback time, And now it's payback time! The weather then starts getting rough (That's the "Tempest," don't you know); With special effects by the potent art Of the protean Prospero. Their ship sets ground on the shore of his Exotic isle exile With Caliban.... Gonzalo, too... Alonso and his son...... Trinculo..... Miranda and Ariel - here on Prospero's Island! Now, Ariel the airy sprite Will do his very best To confound the co-conspirators, While Miranda and Fred play chess. No death! No gore! No severed heads! Not a single fatality! Like Cymbeline or Winter's Tale, It's redemptive as can be. And then at the end a staff gets broke, And it's back to Milan they go; And here's the message of our play: "Live Long and Prospero!" - CMC To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From klaatu at primenet.com Sat Mar 3 05:00:49 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:00:49 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Trains again In-Reply-To: <97pppp+ph5i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: This is actually HP-related, but since the trains discussion is here, here is where I'll comment. I picture the compartments each holding about 6 people. This based on the scene in Prisoner of Azkaban when the Dementors are on the train. In one compartment are Lupin, Harry, Ron, and Hermione -- and Ginny and Neville join them. They all seem to be seated in the car after the Dementor leaves, except for Harry who has fainted and is on the floor. SML ============================================== "Harry," said Lockhart, his large white teeth gleaming in the sunlight as he shook his head. "Harry, Harry, Harry." Completely nonplussed, Harry said nothing. ---Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no [mailto:pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:52 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Trains again I posted some floorplans of the different types of compartment- carriages I've been talking about. They are not to any scale, apart from having tried to retain a wee bit of proportions - they are really only the barest of sketches. Sometimes, I've shown a standard door when it should infact have been a sliding-door, but it was faster, and is probably easier to read, that way. Here is the oldest form of compartment-carriage - not much to it, really: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt1.jpg Here is the modern style of compartment-carriage, as used on European railroads: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt3.jpg Here is what I envision for the Hogwarts Express: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Trains/cmpt2.jpg To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 3 06:53:54 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:53:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions References: Message-ID: <003301c0a3ae$bc51fa60$0814a3d1@doreen> Have you seen the "I AM CANADIAN" Molsen beer commercial? This deals with stereotypical ideas about Canadians in a hysterically humorous way. My Canadian friend had to explain to me that people think they should "know" anyone that the non-Canadians happen to know. Also, that they go there in the summer expecting to ski. Doreen I'll have to keep an eye open. We have a resident Canadian here in our office, who is proud to be so, but we give him all kinds of grief for it. Mer Here is the url for that and other like it Canadian commercials for your friend. http://www.adcritic.com/content/molson-canadian-i-am.html Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 3 07:45:55 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:45:55 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Knickerbockers and Strictly British.. References: <97ora2+idqb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002101c0a3b5$fbeb8c20$2714a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Ward To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Knickerbockers (pants and desserts) It's definitely time to get that 'Strictly British' stuff done for the Lexicon (Doreen is probably wondering why I haven't started it already..) Neil Nah... Doreen is too busy watching the trailer and reading all the trailer posts and trying to keep up with it all while getting to know the people on the list better from all of their "food posts" etc. "We have until the next book comes out to finish the Strictly British bit and other odd pieces in the Lexicon ... right, Steve?" Doreen asks listlessly. (hee hee one for the Tom Swiftees) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 3 10:51:20 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:51:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: What kind of dog are you" In-Reply-To: <97pqq6+9qr9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010303105120.23765.qmail@web12807.mail.yahoo.com> --- Trina wrote: I came out as a Golden Retriever the 1st time (loved parties,etc) and
thought "that is *so* not me" that I took it again and came out as a
Bernese Mountain Dog, practical and dependable...I don't know...I
think I'm more of a cat myself...

Trina

me too. this thing is giving me an identity crisis - first it said i was a golden retriever, then a scotty dog and lastly a poodle. hmmmm... ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 3 10:57:47 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:57:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Yay! Now everyone else is excited too! In-Reply-To: <97pod0+i5o5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010303105747.27761.qmail@web12803.mail.yahoo.com> hey, i know i'm quite new to this group/forum thingie but i used to live in london (took my A levels there) so if you need answers to any specific questions i'd more than happy to attempt to answer them. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From s_ings at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 11:25:17 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 03:25:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] People abroad In-Reply-To: <97pi9f+285v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010303112517.16000.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > You see, I'm spoiled when it comes to exchange > rates. I'm used to > going over to Ontario every weekend and getting a > hugely favorable > exchange rate... the American dollar is worth a bit > more than the > Canadian... and in most Ontario touristy spots > (everywhere in our > sister city of Windsor) American money is accepted > and you get > American change back. OTOH, just try giving someone > in SE Michigan > Canadian funds... we'd laugh at you. You're being nicely conservative there, aren't you? Shall I rephrase a bit? 'The American dollar is worth'... a LOT more than the Canadian. I speak from experience here, having just spent a weekend in Rhode Island and having to mentally add 50% to everything before I spent any money. And I AM jumping up and down about your trip, you just can't see me from there, or else you would notice the slightly envious green tinge to my complexion! BTW, you said to let you know when I would be in Toronto next, on the chance we might get togther. It looks like I will be there the last weekend in March and another weekend in late June (March for a conference and June for Toronto Pride). Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 15:28:03 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:28:03 -0600 Subject: Alan References: <97pod0+i5o5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <016c01c0a3f6$8af3f520$b7e2fea9@computer> I had the pleasure (?) of seeing Galaxy Quest yesterday. Why didn't anyone mention that Alan was in this? Is it because he doesn't have hair the whole way through the movie? I think I enjoyed his role the best, but it was very interesting to see Sig in a role where SHE's the babe! Grins. I can see though why I got the movie for only 2.99! ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 14:41:16 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:41:16 -0000 Subject: Macauley Culkin In-Reply-To: <97ppi3+kaun@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97qvqc+r9ar@eGroups.com> Parker wrote: > Culkin's also been quite busy getting separated from Rachel Miner, > whom he married about 2 years ago, when they were both 17. > Yeah, I was kind of wondering more about his mental health. I hope he's grown up to be a fine and successful actor and all, but is he at all together and happy? I will feel awful (and probably personally responsible, considering my boundless capacity for guilt) if Dan Radcliffe ends up a horrible, miserable person because of Harry Potter. I'll hold onto that thought of Jodie Foster. By all accounts, she seems like a very stable woman, despite having become famous at 12 and someone having shot the president to impress her at 20. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 14:49:33 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:49:33 -0000 Subject: Cereal for (the nice kind of) serial killers In-Reply-To: <97pr9i+lnc9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97r09t+5e44@eGroups.com> Trina wrote: > Would that be the Harris Teeter, Heather? Maybe you need to introduce > our favorite Flying Ford Anglia to grits as well. LOL Now that's a cultural exchange we could use right here within the U.S. Grits aren't exactly on the breakfast menu up here (I'm a New Englander). You can get them in big supermarkets, and I do love hot cereal, but I've never tried them. I think it's the name that puts me off--I expect them to be gritty! Amy Z From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 15:43:15 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:43:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Green eggs and ham References: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> <000f01c0a25b$4dc8c1e0$3014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <01b601c0a3f9$9ec3f340$b7e2fea9@computer> Ok, more on the Seuss front. My son lately at home has been going GE&H nuts. This started the week of the 22nd (or whatever that Monday is, my calendar's turned). He wants me to read it to him alot. On Thursday I went to school with him, and we took the bright orange book down the steps to read on them while waiting for the bus to arrive. Upon getting to school, I discover they are going to read said book today (the 1st), in honor of Dr. S's birthday being this week. The teacher was upset that her copy was battered, so I reached in my bag (which, mind you, I had NO clue she was on the Seuss kick!) and pulled out Ian's fresh, new copy! She was happy to borrow it! The next moment the lunch was wheeled in (jumping ahead in time ten/fifteen here), and it was green scrambled eggs and ham. (And beets and biscuits, lol Neil! and applesauce. I do not understand why they try to make 3 year olds eat beets when it's a known fact adults do not always like them either! I eat them, but I'm weird--brussel spouts, broccoli, spinach, etc....) It was a Seuss day, then I come home, and Doreen asked her question. Now, it's come full circle. (And I have the book almost memorized, btw, it's "sleeping" beside Ian currently as I'm checking email....) ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Doreen To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sneetches (star-bellied, of course!) ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sneetches Doreen, this is in response to you, but your messages always come up on a blue background with tiny little type, they drive me nuts to read, and when I try to respond I'm stuck in the format. So here's a new message. Sneetches are Dr. Seuss creatures, from "The Sneetches and Other Stories" which includes my personal favorite, "Too Many Daves." "The Sneetches" begins... Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches Had bellies with stars. The Plain-Belly Sneetches Had none upon thars. Etc. By the way, Sneetches are yellow, but there any resemblance to snitches ends. --Amanda, raised on Seuss, knows just about all of them by heart Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave? Oh wow! I should have known it was something from Seuss! Thank you. If I had thought, "sneetches instead of sneetch, I may have been able to work it out myself!" Thanks for the tip about the background and type ... as you can see, I have changed the background. Is the type large enough? If not, what size do you use? font and size? "I will not eat them, Sam-I-Am, I will not eat green eggs & ham" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 14:55:04 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:55:04 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifites In-Reply-To: <384517886.983594139212.JavaMail.root@web572-mc> Message-ID: <97r0k8+tapg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Morsus Crustum wrote: > Hmm. Does this count? > > "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected. > I think it's a great one, but it's depressing. Do you really think Harry is always sad? :-( Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 15:02:56 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:02:56 -0000 Subject: Alan/Galaxy Quest In-Reply-To: <016c01c0a3f6$8af3f520$b7e2fea9@computer> Message-ID: <97r130+g8hv@eGroups.com> Dee wrote: > I had the pleasure (?) of seeing Galaxy Quest yesterday. Why didn't anyone > mention that Alan was in this? Is it because he doesn't have hair the whole > way through the movie? I think I enjoyed his role the best, but it was very > interesting to see Sig in a role where SHE's the babe! Grins. > > I can see though why I got the movie for only 2.99! I think no one mentions it because it's supposed to have been such an embarrassing flop, and Snapefans that we are, we don't want to embarrass AR. I rented that movie because I love, love, love Star Trek and even if it stunk (which I was inclined to think it would because I hate, hate, hate Tim Allen), I figured it would be a giggle. I thought it needed about 10 times more jokes to keep the thing afloat--too bad, the basic idea was a good one--but I actually thought Tim Allen was fine, and more importantly it introduced me to Alan Rickman, who was very funny (I especially liked his nervous breakdown in the dressing room at the beginning). I liked little touches like Sigourney's gradually dropping neckline--I guess I'm not the only one who thought Troi's blue dress was out of control! Amy Z From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 14:35:03 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:35:03 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Green eggs (and other unsavoury-sounding dishes) References: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> <000f01c0a25b$4dc8c1e0$3014a3d1@doreen> <01b601c0a3f9$9ec3f340$b7e2fea9@computer> Message-ID: <002401c0a3ef$2361d820$b03570c2@c5s910j> Dee said, when talking about Dr Seuss (a *very, very* American thing, although I remember "The Cat In The Hat" being in my primary school library): <> Okay, I'm going to regret this: Green eggs? Please tell me they have parsley in them and not mould. Also "beets and biscuits" sounds like something I'd scrape right off the plate into the bin; I'm retching at the very thought of it. Does it have any redeeming features as a dish? Neil From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 16:06:41 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:06:41 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff References: <20010302142038.25243.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> <3A9FD681.F4B9699E@texas.net> Message-ID: <022e01c0a3fb$f4e45f60$b7e2fea9@computer> SEND ME ALL RECIPES! Thank you! (I collect them for Cakes and Ale :) Just ask Simon!) ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've GOT to try. You start with cranberries, not canned things, and cranberries are only available down here for about the week preceding November, so I buy bags of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream in the summer. It is WONDERFUL--do you want it? --Amanda P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy and haven't written, sorry Sheryll Townsend wrote: --- Benjamin wrote: The after-eight mint ice-cream is > served at G&Ds; > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves > homemade icecream and > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the > Haagen Dazs round > here that shuts at nine) > Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee and my hours are very flexible, especially in the summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, but only when she makes it herself ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From voicelady at mymailstation.com Sat Mar 3 15:19:56 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 3 Mar 2001 07:19:56 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] What kind of dog are you" Message-ID: <20010303151956.24066.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Sat Mar 3 15:33:00 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:33:00 -0000 Subject: Green Eggs: a traumatic childhood memory In-Reply-To: <002401c0a3ef$2361d820$b03570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97r2rc+8hlj@eGroups.com> "Neil Ward" wrote: > Okay, I'm going to regret this: Green eggs? Please tell me they have > parsley in them and not mould. This just brought back something I thought was forever buried in my mind. In the first grade, my teacher went on a Dr. Seuss craze. We read "Green Eggs and Ham", "Horton hears a Who", etc. for a week or so. At the end of the craze, she threw a little Seuss meal for the class, which featured "green" eggs and ham. The ham part wasn't bad. But the eggs! She added blue food coloring to SCRAMBLED eggs. They were "green"... a disgusting greeny-yellow "green". I remember one kid had enough nerve to taste the stuff, but it completely put me off scrambled eggs for sometime. I think it would have been better if she added finely minced parsley to those eggs rather than the food coloring. :-(Milz From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 15:47:18 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:47:18 -0000 Subject: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <022e01c0a3fb$f4e45f60$b7e2fea9@computer> Message-ID: <97r3m6+adu8@eGroups.com> I take it then that if I got hold of the cocoa-cola-cake recipe I saw once over on another group, you'd want it? --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > SEND ME ALL RECIPES! > > Thank you! > > (I collect them for Cakes and Ale :) Just ask Simon!) > ~~Dee~~ > :) [snip] From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 16:32:06 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 16:32:06 -0000 Subject: Trains again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97r6a6+sv20@eGroups.com> Yes, that's been established beyond any measure of doubt - the big enigma is the arrangement of doors. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > This is actually HP-related, but since the trains discussion is > here, here is where I'll comment. I picture the compartments each > holding about 6 people. This based on the scene in Prisoner of > Azkaban when the Dementors are on the train. In one compartment > are Lupin, Harry, Ron, and Hermione -- and Ginny and Neville join > them. They all seem to be seated in the car after the Dementor > leaves, except for Harry who has fainted and is on the floor. > > SML From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 16:53:02 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 16:53:02 -0000 Subject: Going to England this summer... In-Reply-To: <97oir3+nu9h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97r7he+u0b0@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > I'll bring some Michigan/Ontario > memorabilia for those who I meet if I can get it past customs...I'm > thinking postcards, souvenir posters or magnets, buttons, etc. Just remember, when customs ask you if you've got any illegal substances, tell them that you prefer to buy them once you get into the country. Don't let the dour-faced sourpuss official looks fool you, these chaps have a fine sense of humour ;) > listies. We can work out the logistics once I get my schedule--it > just may be easier for me to come to you one weekend, or perhaps we > can all meet in London if everyone's within a stone's throw. When I'm in America I always tell Americans I'm from London ... saves explaining there are (a few) other cities in the UK. JK :)) London's such a pig to get into though ... Wotan From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 17:10:05 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:10:05 -0000 Subject: Green eggs / Dr. Seuss In-Reply-To: <002401c0a3ef$2361d820$b03570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97r8hd+pkdg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Dee said, when talking about Dr Seuss (a *very, very* American thing, > although I remember "The Cat In The Hat" being in my primary school > library) Now this is an interesting question. Why is Dr. Seuss so American? There are few cultural references that come to mind. Do you think the humor doesn't translate well to the British? Or would British kids enjoy his books just as much as US if they read them? > Okay, I'm going to regret this: Green eggs? Please tell me they have > parsley in them and not mould. Food coloring, as Milz said (patting Milz on the back in sympathy for childhood trauma). I never ate them, but I recall my sister having them at camp for a joke meal. I don't know if they managed to dye the ham also. > Also "beets and biscuits" sounds like > something I'd scrape right off the plate into the bin; I'm retching > at the very thought of it. Does it have any redeeming features as a > dish? LOL! I assumed they were separate items on the plate. And the beets probably did get scraped into the bin. What percentage of kindergarten children do you suppose like beets? 2? Maybe they wanted to test the efficacy of Dr. Seuss's moral tale: does reading Green Eggs and Ham actually make picky eaters more adventurous? (It didn't work on me.) Amy Z the vegetarian who doesn't like vegetables...well, I like a few From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 18:10:09 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:10:09 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff SUGGESTIONS ADMIN? References: <20010302180027.1411.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008e01c0a40d$306c2de0$b7e2fea9@computer> Neil, other Mods, how about an OT list dedicated to Just Food? That would be KEWL! GRINS WIDELY ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheryll Townsend" To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff > > --- Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've > > GOT to try. You > > start with cranberries, not canned things, and > > cranberries are only > > available down here for about the week preceding > > November, so I buy bags > > of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream > > in the summer. It > > is WONDERFUL--do you want it? > > > > --Amanda > > > > P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy > > and haven't > > written, sorry > > > Oh my, yes, please. Cranberry ice cream, that's a new > one for me. Since I can get fresh cranberries here, it > should work out nicely. > > Glad to hear the tapes got there in one piece, Canada > Post seems to have lost Neil's book, though I have an > enquiry in to them to try an locate it. Now you just > have to find 10 uninterrupted hours to watch the tapes > - Hah, like that's going to happen! Hope you enjoy > them. > > Sheryll > > ===== > "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 18:19:06 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:19:06 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff References: <20010302142038.25243.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> <3A9FD681.F4B9699E@texas.net> Message-ID: <00b501c0a40e$703e4380$b7e2fea9@computer> Ok, I did it! Here's a group for pure food talk! http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GUFoodGroup ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've GOT to try. You start with cranberries, not canned things, and cranberries are only available down here for about the week preceding November, so I buy bags of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream in the summer. It is WONDERFUL--do you want it? --Amanda P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy and haven't written, sorry Sheryll Townsend wrote: --- Benjamin wrote: The after-eight mint ice-cream is > served at G&Ds; > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves > homemade icecream and > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the > Haagen Dazs round > here that shuts at nine) > Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee and my hours are very flexible, especially in the summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, but only when she makes it herself ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 3 17:29:25 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:29:25 -0000 Subject: Cereal for (the nice kind of) serial killers In-Reply-To: <97r09t+5e44@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97r9ll+k9c0@eGroups.com> Amy Z wrote: > Now that's a cultural exchange we could use right here within the U.S. Grits aren't exactly on the breakfast menu up here (I'm a New > Englander). You can get them in big supermarkets, and I do love hot cereal, but I've never tried them. I think it's the name that puts me off--I expect them to be gritty! I don't eat my grits as a hot cereal AT ALL! In fact I tease a friend of mine of eating her grits like a "Yankee" even though I am a transplant myself (but my mom's from Tennessee and has just moved back so I'm only a one-generation Yankee). I fry my eggs sunny side up and then mix my grits and eggs together with salt and pepper. Some bacon and tomato slices on the side and you have a delicious breakfast! Trina From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 3 17:27:12 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:27:12 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Dog Test References: <97prq2+duh4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA1296F.798A81D0@texas.net> aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > I am REALLY embarrassed to admit this. > > I'm a poodle. Heck, don't feel bad. I came out a ch.. ch.. little Taco Bell dog. I consider those a large form of bait. Ugh. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 18:29:03 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:29:03 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Green eggs / Dr. Seuss References: <97r8hd+pkdg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <012301c0a40f$d4448960$b7e2fea9@computer> The eggs WERE scrambled, and a lovely mint-green tone, with food coloring of course, and they didn't read the book until AFTER lunch, which of course was too late, the more (need I saw ethnic) students in the class took one look at the eggs, and said, "I'm not eating those--yuck!". Of course, my son dug right in! (I even made said eggs for breakfast this morning....) If I remember correctly, I tried doing eggs and ham earlier in my life, and the ham refused to turn green. The school ham was pink. They didn't even try it. The beets hit the trash. The biscuit, though was perfect, soft yet flaky. Grins. I saw the biscuits in the bowl (everything gets served to the teachers in bowls, and they dish them out to the students), and immediately thought of Neil! I wish I could have packaged and shipped one, but I doubt it would have survived the journey, it was flaking into pieces on my tray! :) Once we get more folks over at the other group, I'll transfer talk of food there, promise! Grins. ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Z" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Green eggs / Dr. Seuss > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > > Dee said, when talking about Dr Seuss (a *very, very* American > thing, > > although I remember "The Cat In The Hat" being in my primary school > > library) > > Now this is an interesting question. Why is Dr. Seuss so American? > There are few cultural references that come to mind. Do you think the > humor doesn't translate well to the British? Or would British kids > enjoy his books just as much as US if they read them? > > > Okay, I'm going to regret this: Green eggs? Please tell me they > have > > parsley in them and not mould. > > Food coloring, as Milz said (patting Milz on the back in sympathy for > childhood trauma). I never ate them, but I recall my sister having > them at camp for a joke meal. I don't know if they managed to dye the > ham also. > > > Also "beets and biscuits" sounds like > > something I'd scrape right off the plate into the bin; I'm retching > > at the very thought of it. Does it have any redeeming features as a > > dish? > > LOL! I assumed they were separate items on the plate. And the beets > probably did get scraped into the bin. What percentage of > kindergarten children do you suppose like beets? 2? > > Maybe they wanted to test the efficacy of Dr. Seuss's moral tale: > does reading Green Eggs and Ham actually make picky eaters more > adventurous? (It didn't work on me.) > > Amy Z > the vegetarian who doesn't like vegetables...well, I like a few > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 3 17:33:49 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:33:49 -0000 Subject: Food!,especially University stuff In-Reply-To: <00b501c0a40e$703e4380$b7e2fea9@computer> Message-ID: <97r9tt+s0og@eGroups.com> Works somewhat faster if you skip beta (i.e. use http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GUFoodGroup/ ), but is there any need really to declare food off-topic on a group very anything off- topic is on-topic (and does making a off-topic topic off-topic make it on-topic off-topic or off-topic on-topic (say that fast twenty times over!)?)? --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > Ok, I did it! > > Here's a group for pure food talk! > > > http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GUFoodGroup > > > > ~~Dee~~ > :) From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 3 17:04:48 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:04:48 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Eeeek. More clubs!!?? References: <20010302142038.25243.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> <3A9FD681.F4B9699E@texas.net> <00b501c0a40e$703e4380$b7e2fea9@computer> Message-ID: <004a01c0a404$0e8697a0$863670c2@c5s910j> [- startled look - ] Dee, I thought you were joking!!! Well, perhaps, not from the woman who is a member of a zillion lists () Blimey - if we created a new group every time we had an enduring discussion thread, we'd end up with about a hundred HPfGU clubs and we'd all be scoring 603% on the obsessiveness scale! Oh well.... Seriously (well, almost), we're going to be launching OTChatter properly and I antcipate (perhaps in vain) that we'll end discuss other things as well... Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise R To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff Ok, I did it! Here's a group for pure food talk! http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/HP4GUFoodGroup ~~Dee~~ :) ______________________________________________ ICQ me @ 21282374 For those who love Dark Shadows: http://beta.groups.yahoo.com/group/DarkShadows ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Food!,especially University stuff Sheryll, I have a cranberry ice cream recipe you've GOT to try. You start with cranberries, not canned things, and cranberries are only available down here for about the week preceding November, so I buy bags of them and freeze them, so I can make the ice cream in the summer. It is WONDERFUL--do you want it? --Amanda P.S. the tapes got here a couple days ago, been busy and haven't written, sorry Sheryll Townsend wrote: --- Benjamin wrote: The after-eight mint ice-cream is > served at G&Ds; > another fabulous Oxford eating hole that serves > homemade icecream and > great coffee and is open 'til midnight. (Unlike the > Haagen Dazs round > here that shuts at nine) > Ah yes, but I make homemade ice cream and great coffee and my hours are very flexible, especially in the summer. Anyone coming for ice cream? Be forewarned that I use an antique ice cream freezer, you must crank the handle if you want to eat ice cream! Sheryll, who's favourite is almond peach ice cream, but only when she makes it herself ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 3 17:48:26 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:48:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Green eggs (and other unsavoury-sounding dishes) References: <3A9E4E35.3C37BC3F@texas.net> <000f01c0a25b$4dc8c1e0$3014a3d1@doreen> <01b601c0a3f9$9ec3f340$b7e2fea9@computer> <002401c0a3ef$2361d820$b03570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <3AA12E6A.845008D2@texas.net> Neil Ward wrote: > Okay, I'm going to regret this: Green eggs? Please tell me they have > parsley in them and not mould. Calm yourself, Neil. My father made us green eggs and ham once, and did a creditable job of it--of course, they made cakes as a serious hobby, and had reams of the paste colors, so our eggs were a lovely Kelly green. We all had green tongues for days, seems like. We didn't eat the ham, but we never ate ham anyway, so that doesn't count. I think I come from a weird family--my mom made a Valentine's feast one time that was entirely pink--she made pimiento cheese sandwiches and then cut out the middles with a heart cookie cutter so they'd be heart-shaped, and she'd colored the pimiento cheese to be pink; she made deviled eggs and colored the deviled part; we had pink lemonade; pink rollout cookies (ahem--Brit version--pink biscuits shaped like hearts), etc. It was great. And I still pull my mom's trick of coloring her pound cake batter vivid purple, then baking it in a bundt pan. When it comes out, it's nicely browned and the color doesn't show. She loved (as I do) to take this to people as a housewarming present, congratulations on the baby, etc., and not mention the color..... Oh, and early exposure to Dr. Seuss can color you forever, no pun intended--all my poetry tends toward a Seussian meter, and I consider words a big Lego set. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 3 17:54:35 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:54:35 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Alan/Galaxy Quest References: <97r130+g8hv@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA12FDA.A4719739@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > I think no one mentions it because it's supposed to have been such an > embarrassing flop, and Snapefans that we are, we don't want to > embarrass AR. Are you nuts? I thought it was great. I am a Star Trek *and* a science fiction fan, although not to the "no life" extent, and the accuracy with which fandom was portrayed was devastating. The acting was pretty good too--better from Tim Allen than I expected, like him though I do--and I still think one of the best "Snape" keys for what to expect from Alan Rickman is the scene where his character, Alexander Dane, is holding his alien assistant who is dying, and makes that "by Graptar's hammer,...you will be avenged" speech. He speaks so softly and gently, but with such purpose and emotion. I think a lot of Snape's lines will be delivered that way. All in all, GalaxyQuest had the "feel" of a movie where the actors were having fun, and I didn't go in expecting great literature, just some fun, so I liked it. Nor was I particularly an Alan fan at that time. I actually just happened to rent GalaxyQuest and Dogma at the same time, not knowing he was in either one, and promptly got hooked. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 3 18:00:07 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:00:07 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cereal for (the nice kind of) serial killers Grits, they're not just for breakfast References: <97r9ll+k9c0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001201c0a40b$c9836180$8714a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: Trina To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:29 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cereal for (the nice kind of) serial killers Amy Z wrote: > Now that's a cultural exchange we could use right here within the U.S. Grits aren't exactly on the breakfast menu up here (I'm a New > Englander). You can get them in big supermarkets, and I do love hot cereal, but I've never tried them. I think it's the name that puts me off--I expect them to be gritty! Oh, no, no, no, no! The Southern faction is going to set you straight on the proper way to eat grits now! LOL They would no more add milk & sugar to their grits than they would to their eggs and bacon. Doreen sits back and watches the posts come rushing in BTW ... we must not have too many Aussies in the group, as I have not seen one post about vegemite in all this food discussion. Talk about your obsessions! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hermitchick at crosswinds.net Sat Mar 3 18:02:56 2001 From: hermitchick at crosswinds.net (Persephone) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 13:02:56 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Green Eggs: a traumatic childhood memory References: <97r2rc+8hlj@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA131CD.F349F71B@crosswinds.net> Oh hello everyone! I'm new here! And for once in my life I won't lurk for 6 months before saying hello. I'm 17 and my name is Kathryn or Kate, on the net I'm Persphone, I'm in the HPforgrownups chat every Sunday for those who know me. absinthe at mad.scientist.com wrote: > This just brought back something I thought was forever buried in my > mind. In the first grade, my teacher went on a Dr. Seuss craze. We > read "Green Eggs and Ham", "Horton hears a Who", etc. for a week or > so. At the end of the craze, she threw a little Seuss meal for the > class, which featured "green" eggs and ham. The ham part wasn't bad. > But the eggs! She added blue food coloring to SCRAMBLED eggs. They > were "green"... a disgusting greeny-yellow "green". I remember one > kid had enough nerve to taste the stuff, but it completely put me off > scrambled eggs for sometime. The evils of Dr. Suess week! Altough I can't symphitize with you there with the elementary thing, yesterday in school, high school, we had "green eggs and ham" for lunch. And the eggs were green, needless to say I did not eat lunch that day. Food-coloured eggs are rather unapitizing no? > I think it would have been better if she added finely minced parsley > to those eggs rather than the food coloring. > > :-(Milz I think that would have been better as well, they were just... gross! I think I will skip on eggs for awhile now. -Kate -- "So we reach into the raging chaos, and we pluck some small glittering thing, and we cling to it, and tell ourselves it has meaning, and that the world is good, and we are not evil and we will all go home in the end." - Lestat, "Tale of the Body Thief" by Anne Rice Persephone's Lair: http://geocities.com/hermitchick Harry and Draco Archive: http://geocities.com/harry_and_draco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 3 19:43:34 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:43:34 -0000 Subject: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <3AA1296F.798A81D0@texas.net> Message-ID: <97rhh6+hvcq@eGroups.com> I am laughing out loud over here! Heather M. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > aichambaye at y... wrote: > > > I am REALLY embarrassed to admit this. > > > > I'm a poodle. > > Heck, don't feel bad. I came out a ch.. > ch.. > > little Taco Bell dog. > > I consider those a large form of bait. Ugh. > > --Amanda From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sat Mar 3 20:43:50 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:43:50 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifites In-Reply-To: <009201c0a3c3$6826d720$2714a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <97rl26+dpb5@eGroups.com> Ministry of Magic Bureau for the Defence of Magical Humour 3 March, 2001 Dear Ms. Crustum: Thank you for you submission of 3 March. However, The Department must inform you that your "Tom Swiftie" was not written in proper form. Please note that canonical "Swifties" *must* adhere to the following formal structure: "," , . In your initial submission, '"The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected.' lacked the obligatory adverb, and should, accordingly, be rewritten thusly: "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry said, reflectively. Failure to mend your ways in the very near future will result in removal of the "W" key from your keyboard, and we all know how traumatic *that* can be. Yours Retentively, etc. Anal P. Lardbhottom Department of Canonical Swifties --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Morsus Crustum > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at y... > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:35 PM > Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tom Swifites > > > Hmm. Does this count? > > "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected. > > > Morsus Crustum > It works for me. I am collecting all of the Tom Swifties onto one big list. When I get them all done, what do I do with it? Or where do I go to upload it or whatever? > Doreen > > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Click here for Classmates.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 3 20:48:08 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:48:08 -0000 Subject: Hello ... Message-ID: <97rla8+2314@eGroups.com> I seem to be subscribing to more lists than I can count right now. So I guess some of you will know me from the other Harry lists round here, I write at FFN under the penname Al ... and, yeah, that's about all I can think of. I'll probably lurk for a bit so I can get a feel for the place, but it looks like I already know some people. I'll go away now and stop bothering you all. From simon at branford.inbox.as Sat Mar 3 21:13:29 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:13:29 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifites In-Reply-To: <97rl26+dpb5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97rmpp+pbud@eGroups.com> If it wasn't for me trying to clean my teeth while writing this I would have been ROFLMBO. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Ministry of Magic > Bureau for the Defence of Magical Humour > 3 March, 2001 > > > Dear Ms. Crustum: > > Thank you for you submission of 3 March. However, The Department > must inform you that your "Tom Swiftie" was not written in proper > form. Please note that canonical "Swifties" *must* adhere to the > following formal structure: > > "," , > . > > In your initial submission, '"The mirror in the Boy's dorm always > seems sad," Harry reflected.' lacked the obligatory adverb, and > should, accordingly, be rewritten thusly: > > "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry said, > reflectively. > > Failure to mend your ways in the very near future will result in > removal of the "W" key from your keyboard, and we all know how > traumatic *that* can be. > > Yours Retentively, etc. > > Anal P. Lardbhottom > Department of Canonical Swifties > > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Morsus Crustum > > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at y... > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:35 PM > > Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Tom Swifites > > > > > > Hmm. Does this count? > > > > "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected. > > > > > > Morsus Crustum > > It works for me. I am collecting all of the Tom Swifties onto one > big list. When I get them all done, what do I do with it? Or where do > I go to upload it or whatever? > > Doreen > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Click here for Classmates.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at y... > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 3 21:14:56 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:14:56 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Tom Swifites Defense of Magical Humor References: <97rl26+dpb5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <000a01c0a427$00b64940$2e14a3d1@doreen> Ministry of Magic Bureau for the Defence of Magical Humour 3 March, 2001 Dear Ms. Crustum: Thank you for you submission of 3 March. However, The Department must inform you that your "Tom Swiftie" was not written in proper form. Please note that canonical "Swifties" *must* adhere to the following formal structure: "," , . In your initial submission, '"The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected.' lacked the obligatory adverb, and should, accordingly, be rewritten thusly: "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry said, reflectively. Failure to mend your ways in the very near future will result in removal of the "W" key from your keyboard, and we all know how traumatic *that* can be. Yours Retentively, etc. Anal P. Lardbhottom Department of Canonical Swifties To Morsus Crustum I say we stinkbomb the office of DMH ... what do you think? Doreen, who makes note of the corrected version of the Tom Swiftie, and keeps both versions, just in case the original version, with its errors, may be worth some big bucks some day. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbnesbit at msn.com Sun Mar 4 00:14:58 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:14:58 -0000 Subject: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <97rhh6+hvcq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97s1e2+eqd8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I am laughing out loud over here! > Heather M. > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > aichambaye at y... wrote: > > > > > I am REALLY embarrassed to admit this. > > > > > > I'm a poodle. > > > > Heck, don't feel bad. I came out a ch.. > > ch.. > > > > little Taco Bell dog. > > > > I consider those a large form of bait. Ugh. > > > > --Amanda Well, poodles (well-bred ones at least)are not at all yappy, hyper or any of the other things we associate with them. They will retrieve (they *were* retrievers at one point in their development). Chihuahuas, on the other hand...I'd call them breakfast myself. I came out as a basset hound! Anyone who knows me knows I'm *not* a basset hound!! I'm with Neil--laid back I'm not. I am, on the other hand, housebroken. Parker (applying for the doggy psychologist position for everyone taking this test) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sun Mar 4 00:25:26 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:25:26 -0000 Subject: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <97s1e2+eqd8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97s21m+vq2v@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pbnesbit at m... wrote: [snip] > I came out as a basset hound! Anyone who knows me knows I'm *not* > a basset hound!! I'm with Neil--laid back I'm not. I am, on the > other hand, housebroken. > > Parker (applying for the doggy psychologist position for everyone > taking this test) You became a basset-hound too? Is there an over-representation of bassets among HP-fans? Christian the basset (who, having thought it over for a while, finds that the result was fairly accurate) From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 00:50:53 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:50:53 -0000 Subject: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <97s21m+vq2v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97s3hd+8loj@eGroups.com> > You became a basset-hound too? Is there an over-representation of > bassets among HP-fans? If only ... I'm one of those damn squeaky dogs ... the one that advertised those god-awful taco things on TV last time I was Stateside. I'm also 48% obsessed with Harry Potter, but I'm not sure if that counts towards much. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 01:26:11 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:26:11 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits Message-ID: <97s5jj+s6mr@eGroups.com> My MOM just called and tried to convince me to stay home so I don't get hoof and mouth disease. I know it's bad but should she be really worried? I'm not, as I am not going to travel around the country. I've heard that they may restrict people going in and out of the country... ? Help? Any info would be most appreciated. Heather M. From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sun Mar 4 02:48:00 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:48:00 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <97s5jj+s6mr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97sad0+d2e2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > My MOM just called and tried to convince me to stay home so I don't > get hoof and mouth disease. I know it's bad but should she be really > worried? I'm not, as I am not going to travel around the country. > I've heard that they may restrict people going in and out of the > country... ? Help? Any info would be most appreciated. Humans don't get foot and mouth. Travel is restricted so that people don't drag the bug about the country with them and spread the outbreak. I was supposed to be going to Cardiff today to watch the 6 nations rugby match between Wales and Ireland at the Millenium Stadium but it's been called off for precisely the same reason. So I'm just waiting for the Grand Prix to start to console myself. Dai From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 02:56:29 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:56:29 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <97sad0+d2e2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97sast+gqvo@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Dai Evans" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > My MOM just called and tried to convince me to stay home so I don't > > get hoof and mouth disease. I know it's bad but should she be > really > > worried? I'm not, as I am not going to travel around the country. > > I've heard that they may restrict people going in and out of the > > country... ? Help? Any info would be most appreciated. > > Humans don't get foot and mouth. Travel is restricted so that people > don't drag the bug about the country with them and spread the > outbreak. > > I was supposed to be going to Cardiff today to watch the 6 nations > rugby match between Wales and Ireland at the Millenium Stadium but > it's been called off for precisely the same reason. So I'm just > waiting for the Grand Prix to start to console myself. OCH! That's terrible!! Tragic, even!!! I'm going to the Times website now to see whether I can get any further info. Heather M. From s_ings at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 05:45:19 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:45:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dog Test In-Reply-To: <97s1e2+eqd8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010304054519.69871.qmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> --- pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > I am laughing out loud over here! > > Heather M. > > > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski > wrote: > > > aichambaye at y... wrote: > > > > > > > I am REALLY embarrassed to admit this. > > > > > > > > I'm a poodle. > > > > > > Heck, don't feel bad. I came out a ch.. > > > ch.. > > > > > > little Taco Bell dog. > > > > > > I consider those a large form of bait. Ugh. > > > > > > --Amanda > > Well, poodles (well-bred ones at least)are not at > all yappy, hyper or > any of the other things we associate with them. > They will retrieve > (they *were* retrievers at one point in their > development). > Chihuahuas, on the other hand...I'd call them > breakfast myself. > I came out as a basset hound! Anyone who knows me > knows I'm *not* a > basset hound!! I'm with Neil--laid back I'm not. I > am, on the other > hand, housebroken. > > Parker (applying for the doggy psychologist position > for everyone > taking this test) > It sounds like we will be in need of your services as doggy psychologist, Parker. Most of us don't appear to be very pleased with our results, and are perhaps suffering from some sort of doggy trauma. Sheryll, who turns out to be a German Shepherd, not bad, but it just doesn't feel like that's me ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 4 06:38:20 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:38:20 -0600 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <002c01c0a475$b60fedc0$1814a3d1@doreen> OOPS! Sorry... I did post them to the wrong list. Guess I was naughty, naughty and got caughty, caughty. I will try my best not to let it happen again. Do I get dessert now? hmmm That's right.. we now have a list for that too. Never mind. ok .. here is my Tom Swiftie: "Naughty, naughty, you'll get caughty, Peeves teased hauntingly." Doreen, hoping this one gets past the DMH "Shan't say nothing if you don't say, please," said Peeves in his annoying singsong voice. "All right --- please." "NOTHING! Ha ha! Haaaaaa!" Peeves the Poltergeist, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 06:48:01 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:48:01 -0000 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats In-Reply-To: <001201c0a40b$c9836180$8714a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <97sof1+8mef@eGroups.com> Okay, my Southern compatriots: never let it be said that a Yankee refuses to learn. Tell me how to eat grits! That thing with the fried eggs--can you do it with instant grits? I am clueless! (BTW, the eggs in Green Eggs and Ham are fried, not scrambled. That must be a challenge to food-colorers.) And BTW to non-USans: to you, "Yankee" means American. To us, "Yankee" means Northerner and/or Union side of the Civil War. (And to Boston Red Sox fans [that's baseball], "Yankee" means anathema.) Red Sox forever, Amy P.S. If I may venture back onto HP, though not enough to be on HPfGU: Simon described a beater's bat as a "rounder's bat." Is that a cricket thing? Are there more than one kind of bat in cricket? SS translates it as "a kind of short baseball bat" (that's a paraphrase), which I took to mean round (not flat on one side the way I picture a cricket bat) and about 2 feet long. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 06:52:59 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:52:59 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifites In-Reply-To: <97rl26+dpb5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97soob+171f@eGroups.com> Jim wrote: > Yours Retentively, etc. > > Anal P. Lardbhottom > Department of Canonical Swifties ROFL! I'm of the Broad Church view, in which both verb and adverb are acceptable in the Lord's sight as canonical Swifties. Carry on, MC, and don't let the Lardbottoms get you down! Everyone knows Bagman's the only Ministry wizard with a Knut's worth of humor. Amy Z From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 06:57:16 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:57:16 -0000 Subject: Food, Hoof and Mouth, England and my musings on the last 400 messages... Message-ID: <97sp0c+kfse@eGroups.com> Hi you guys...I have spent the better part of the day catching up on the last 350+ messages on this list-WOW! I also don't think that it's fair you've been having such a wonderful food discussion without me! WAHHHH!! Firstly I must say-Ebony! Ebony! Ebony! Ebony! Ebony! I am not at all excited about your trip. I'm estatic! Namely because I am also going to be in Oxford in July, and, I'm hoping, staying at Corpus Christi! Do you believe that!?! I'm now undecided about whether I'm more excited about going to England or the possibility of meeting you! (and maybe the Brit members, but I'm not sure yet). Gosh, but this is exciting. We'll have to be careful of Neil however and see to it that he doesn't eat us both with lemonheads, and wash us down with digestive biscuits and a glass of milk. As for Hoof and Mouth Disease Heather the big fear seems to be spreading it, not contracting it. As for Mad Cow Disease I'm a Vegetarian anyway so I'm not terribly worried. However the whole thing does seem rather frightening. Then there was the whole never-ending biscuit thread, which wasn't so bad considering I made Chocolate Chip Cookies this afternoon. I don't know how the Brits can find something called a "digestive bisquit" very appealing but then again I'm still wondering over Spotted Dick. Bisquits are a good ol' custom (being from North Carolina. Hi Heather!!) people just know how to make them. They are wonderfully soft and flaky and moist and great with butter and blackberry or wineberry Jam (I personally love Scones more, but you don't see them around here.) Who ever posted the Cranberry recipe can I have it too? Lets see...It's almost two in the morning but I just had to respond to the England thing...I'll admit though I'm kinda tired. We had a Great Show tonight, and sold out...the place only sits about three hundred though Scott Who really wants to go to Liverpool (I'm a Beatles fan) but I don't think I'm gonna get there this year. ______________________________________________________________________ "I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now? Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." - John Lennon From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 07:18:19 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:18:19 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Scott in England (was Food, Hoof and Mouth etc...) References: <97sp0c+kfse@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <01a101c0a47b$5f37d0c0$9c3670c2@c5s910j> Scott said, to Ebony: <> Not sure whether you'll get to meet us, or not sure whether you'll want to meet us? [strokes evil villain moustache, stuck on for the occasion]. <> Hmmmm. It depends how hungry I am... but, throw in a twinkie and it sounds like the perfect meal. <> I was raised on the 'old' musicals. My parents are serious Am Dram players and they've been in them all; particularly my Dad, who has played most of the leads in his day (including Curly). So, Scott... tell all: did you have a part, in Oklahoma? Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Sun Mar 4 09:02:54 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:02:54 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dog Test Message-ID: <43.11792a0f.27d35ebe@aol.com> I like my result on this one: I'm a pug. "A lot of dog in a little package." I only wish the package really was little in my case! Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ From simon at branford.inbox.as Sun Mar 4 10:06:22 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:06:22 -0000 Subject: Health and Beauty ; Cricket and Rounders Message-ID: Tesco (a UK supermarket) gives its view on the essential Heath and Beauty products for the year: http://users.comlab.ox.ac.uk/ian.collier/Misc/tesco.jpg Someone seems to have killed Yahoo and ff.net - I am unable to connect to either! Not to mention that ff.net is not sending out e-mails and I am in the process of trying to change e-mail address for my account. Amy: "If I may venture back onto HP, though not enough to be on HPfGU: Simon described a beater's bat as a "rounder's bat." Is that a cricket thing? Are there more than one kind of bat in cricket? SS translates it as "a kind of short baseball bat" (that's a paraphrase), which I took to mean round (not flat on one side the way I picture a cricket bat) and about 2 feet long." Rounder is nothing to do with cricket. Rounders is a sport that is fairly similar to baseball. Rounders is played with a shorter version of a baseball bat, same shape but about 1.5 to 2 feet (I am unsure of exact length). If you can freeze frame the trailer then Harry is holding one of the bats in the bottom corner, when the bludger is released. It is not too clear, but you can see the rough shape. Picture at: http://209.132.204.212/harry/236.jpg. Cricket has a flat bat, with millions of rules about its size. It is of a length to a baseball bat, but flat on one side and v shaped on the other (this is to add a reasonable mass to the centre of the bat, without going over the weight limit). Unlike rounders, and I believe baseball, there is no standard size or weight for a cricket bat. The top players get them made to their own specifications. Pictures: http://www-uk.cricket.org/perl/picture.cgi/012364/ENG and http://www-uk.cricket.org/perl/picture.cgi/017639/ENG give a good indication of size and shape. Simon PS: the fire alarm went off, so while waiting for it to shut up (i.e. when I was thinking of going outside as I am meant to) I was unable to get dressed and hence cannot get to the church in time for the 10 am service. Guess I am going to be going to the 11:30 am service and can now have some food before I go! PPS: Yahoo seems to be back up now. -- " Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups - alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon at branford.inbox.as Sun Mar 4 10:17:41 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:17:41 -0000 Subject: Foot and Mouth (or Hoof and Mouth) In-Reply-To: <983697600.1142.90294.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Cricket explained for Americans: http://www-uk.cricket.org/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/EXPLANATION/CRICKE T_EXPLAINED_AMERICAN.html I cannot find the really good description of cricket involving ins and outs. Heather M.: "My MOM just called and tried to convince me to stay home so I don't get hoof and mouth disease. I know it's bad but should she be really worried? I'm not, as I am not going to travel around the country. I've heard that they may restrict people going in and out of the country... ? Help? Any info would be most appreciated." Dai: "Humans don't get foot and mouth. Travel is restricted so that people don't drag the bug about the country with them and spread the outbreak." F&M is not something to affect humans. All the restrictions that are being put in place are designed to stop the disease spreading any further in the animal population. Travel is restricted in the sense that you are not allowed easy access around the countryside, but I have not heard on any restrictions on actually travelling. If you are staying in London then it is unlikely to be any problems. I heard yesterday that the American are planning on making some sort of checks on people coming from the UK, but if you have not been in the countryside there should be no problems. Visiting the London parks may be out, they may have been closed (I am unsure about this). They may just have put out some disinfectant matting/straw, as they have for people to walk over who are going into Christ Church Meadow (large area of open land, which occasionally has animals grazing on it, situated close to where I live). Simon -- "Welcome to my temporary abode, Slayer." the leader said with a sweeping bow. "Allow me to introduce myself - I am Simon Branford." - Ginny The Vampire Slayer - Season 1, Episode 3: The Curse Of Simon Branford by Keith Fraser (http://www.fanfiction.net/index.fic?action=story-read&storyid=132489) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon at branford.inbox.as Sun Mar 4 10:23:05 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:23:05 -0000 Subject: dog test Message-ID: PPPS to earlier e-mail: I am either a golden retriever or a pug. Think I will pick the former. Nothing else to go in this message as it was meant to be a PPPS to one of the others I sent (i.e. the one with a PS and a PPS). Simon -- HPforGrownUps is the place for the best weekly chat about all things related to the Harry Potter series by J.K. Rowling. That chats are on Sunday, starting at around 8 pm GMT. For more information please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts or feel free to e-mail me at mailto:simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 11:07:47 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:07:47 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <97s5jj+s6mr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97t7m3+bhdo@eGroups.com> Foot and mouth barely affects animals. *There is no crisis whatsoever* ... it is just MAFF getting uppitty. Foot and mouth is no worse for animals than a bad cold for humans. They recover after about two weeks. If we just sit tight and let it blow over, it'll be fine. The problem is that having had f&m, milk and meat yields from affected herds decline dramatically. The reason we are slaughtering all our livestock is therefore primarily economic. It would not be profitable to sell recovered meat after the disease has died down because there would be a bit less of it - ergo this means Arch Commissar Grand Fuhrer Blair (ldr. Puppet Govt. of GW Bush & Country) seems to think we need to destroy everything. It is ridiculous, it has gotten completely out of hand. There is nothing to worry about. Just my two things. Al From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 11:14:57 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:14:57 -0000 Subject: Food, Hoof and Mouth, England and my musings on the last 400 messages... In-Reply-To: <97sp0c+kfse@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97t83h+f8qe@eGroups.com> Scott said ... "As for Hoof and Mouth Disease Heather the big fear seems to be spreading it, not contracting it. As for Mad Cow Disease I'm a Vegetarian anyway so I'm not terribly worried. However the whole thing does seem rather frightening." I refer you to my previous post. "Then there was the whole never-ending biscuit thread, which wasn't so bad considering I made Chocolate Chip Cookies this afternoon. I don't know how the Brits can find something called a "digestive bisquit" very appealing but then again I'm still wondering over Spotted Dick. Bisquits are a good ol' custom (being from North Carolina." You misspelled biscuit. Um, what do you have against diggys? If we're in the habit of insulting each other's old and dignified snack food heritage, then can I take the opportunity to say I don't know how the Yanks can find something called an 'oreo' very appealing, but then again I'm still wondering over Walmart, and that leaves the list- Americans with a chance to come back at me and make bad jokes about Ribena. *Al grins* "Who really wants to go to Liverpool (I'm a Beatles fan) but I don't think I'm gonna get there this year." Liverpool is ... well, undescribable really. The Beatles are one of few good things about it. Hee hee! From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 11:39:24 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:39:24 -0000 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats In-Reply-To: <97sof1+8mef@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97t9hc+7rsn@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: >And BTW to non-USans: to you, "Yankee" means American. To us,"Yankee" means Northerner and/or Union side of the Civil War. Actually (imagine the accent), we use Yank, not Yankee, since most of us have enough nous to know that if he turns out to be a Southerner, he'll punch us on the nose (and we'd never be so uncouth as to refer to a lady as a Yank). :)) >Simon described a beater's bat as a "rounder's bat." Is that a cricket thing? Are there more than one kind of bat in cricket? SS translates it as "a kind of short baseball bat" (that's a paraphrase), which I took to mean round (not flat on one side the way I picture a cricket bat) and about 2 feet long. Rounders is a baseball-like game played by school-children with a soft ball and a short bat (and coats piled up to make the bases). This allows us to (a) claim we invented baseball and (b) loftily dismiss it as a "children's game", thereby annoying any passing Yank. We can then return to the "beautiful" game of cricket, safe in the knowledge that we were once undisputed world masters at it ... up until other nations started playing cricket, that is! There is only one kind of cricket bat. And it is indeed flat on one side - that's the side you use for clipping cheeky fielders around the head ... Wotan From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 11:42:05 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:42:05 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits References: <97t7m3+bhdo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002701c0a4a0$23caf4c0$013570c2@c5s910j> Al said: <> Hmmm. Foot and mouth disease is a severe viral disease of livestock and it's also highly communicable (humans aren't at risk, but they can spread the virus, hence the blocks on travelling), so it's wrong to say it "barely affects" animals. Yes, some animals recover after a few weeks, but some don't. Of course, there's an economic impact, but that isn't the only thing people are concerned about. <> Al, please note that political discussions are not permitted in this group and that would include personal views on the British government. As you're new here, you might want to take a look at the VFAQ for the HPfGU club (which covers this club as well) and follow the link to the netiquette tips. See my sig, below. Thanks. Oh, and in your reponse to Scott, you corrected his spelling of biscuit, so I'll return the favour by correcting your spelling of 'undescribable' (in reference to Liverpool) to 'indescribable'. Not that I agree with you, you understand... Welcome to the club!! ;-) Neil _____________________________________ Flying-Ford-Anglia Mechanimagus Moderator (revving up) "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sun Mar 4 12:16:06 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:16:06 -0000 Subject: Cricket (was Re: Foot and Mouth (or Hoof and Mouth)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97tbm6+fjd7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > I cannot find the really good description of cricket involving ins > and outs. [snip] You are presumably talking about this one? CRICKET (As explained to a foreign visitor) You have two sides one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out. When both sides have been in and out including the not out, THAT'S THE END OF THE GAME. From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sun Mar 4 12:21:03 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:21:03 -0000 Subject: UFF DA Message-ID: <97tbvf+snno@eGroups.com> To survive in Norway, should you ever go there, or among a group of Norwegians, there are some things that must be learned and understood in order to survive. Among the most important things to know, is the meaning of the expression UFF DA. UFF DA IS: * trying to dance the polka to rock and roll music * losing your wad of gum in the chicken yard * having Swedish meat balls at a lutefisk supper * spending two hours cleaning up my room and my mom says 'Uff Da' * walking downtown and then wondering what you wanted * arriving late at a lutefisk supper and getting served minced ham instead * looking in the mirror and discovering you're not getting better, just older * trying to pour two buckets of manure into one bucket * having a mouse crawl up your leg when you're on a hayload * eating hot soup when you've got a runny nose * getting out of bed in the morning with a backache * getting swished in the face with a cow's wet tail * waking yourself up in church with your own snoring * forgetting your mother-in-law's first name * when two steady boy/girl friends find out about each other * noticing non-Norwegians at a church dinner using lefse for a napkin * eating a delicious sandwich and then discovering the spread is cat food * sneezing so hard your false teeth end up in the bread plate AND * UFF DA is NOT being Norwegian From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:07:00 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <002701c0a4a0$23caf4c0$013570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97telk+s353@eGroups.com> Al, please note that political discussions are not permitted in this group and that would include personal views on the British government. As you're new here, you might want to take a look at the VFAQ for the HPfGU club (which covers this club as well) and follow the link to the netiquette tips. Oh, and in your reponse to Scott, you corrected his spelling of biscuit, so I'll return the favour by correcting your spelling of 'undescribable' (in reference to Liverpool) to 'indescribable'. Not that I agree with you, you understand... I stand corrected *Al hides* ... sorry everyone. Indescribably silly of me. I *haven't* got foot and mouth, if that makes any difference at all, but then I don't live in the countryside either :-) From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sun Mar 4 13:22:22 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:22:22 -0000 Subject: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <97t7m3+bhdo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97tfie+p3if@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > Foot and mouth is no worse for animals than a bad cold for humans. > They recover after about two weeks. If we just sit tight and let it > blow over, it'll be fine. The problem is that having had f&m, milk > and meat yields from affected herds decline dramatically. The reason > we are slaughtering all our livestock is therefore primarily > economic. I cannot believe that they are burning thousands of cattle, pigs and sheep just because it reduces yeilds. Choice A: Let the animal ride out the desease and have less yeild afterwards. or Choice B: Kill and Burn the animal and have no yeild from it whatsoever. While severely depleating UK animal stocks, causing widespread panic, huge financial costs on the state in form of compensation etc, have mainland Europe and the rest of the world ban british meat exports, cause britain to buy in meat from overseas at greater cost etc. There is no way in hell that it can be more economical to devastate an industry rather than tend to a few ill cattle with cough mixture. Dai From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 13:10:59 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:10:59 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits References: <97tfie+p3if@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002101c0a4ac$8f394840$073570c2@c5s910j> Dai said: << Choice B: Kill and Burn the animal and have no yeild from it whatsoever. There is no way in hell that it can be more economical to devastate an industry rather than tend to a few ill cattle with cough mixture.>>> I think the intention is stop the spread of the disease. In choice A, you risk the disease spreading further, as it is caused by a highly communicable virus. In choice B, you may protect the animals in unaffected areas from getting it in the first place. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From simon at branford.inbox.as Sun Mar 4 14:00:51 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:00:51 -0000 Subject: Liverpool In-Reply-To: <97t83h+f8qe@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97thqj+8r5t@eGroups.com> Al: "Liverpool is ... well, undescribable really. The Beatles are one of few good things about it." Everton being another. Me: "I cannot find the really good description of cricket involving ins and outs." Christian: "You are presumably talking about this one? " Yes, but there is a much longer version of it. Wotan: "Rounders is a baseball-like game played by school-children with a soft ball and a short bat (and coats piled up to make the bases). This allows us to (a) claim we invented baseball and (b) loftily dismiss it as a "children's game", thereby annoying any passing Yank. We can then return to the "beautiful" game of cricket, safe in the knowledge that we were once undisputed world masters at it ... up until other nations started playing cricket, that is!" A rounders ball is not soft (at least none of the ones I have played with are). The game can be played with proper bases and many adults play it regularly. It is just not that popular or well known. And as with a lot of sports. The English taught the world the game and then the world taught England how to play. Pig From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sun Mar 4 15:01:12 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:01:12 -0000 Subject: This evenings chat Message-ID: <97tlbo+tetn@eGroups.com> I probably won't be able to make it to chat tonight as I have to work. I may make it in later, but not 'till 11pm or later. I'll be thinking of you all. Dai From pennylin at swbell.net Sun Mar 4 15:09:09 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:09:09 -0600 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats References: <97sof1+8mef@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA25A95.1BD56F8C@swbell.net> Hi -- Amy Z wrote: > Okay, my Southern compatriots: never let it be said that a Yankee > refuses to learn. Tell me how to eat grits! That thing with the > fried eggs--can you do it with instant grits? I am clueless! I love grits! Instant or the real McCoy will work fine for basic breakfast menu items. Once they are prepared, add butter, salt, pepper and/or cheese. You need to add butter or cheese for sure though -- plain grits are not all that great IMO. As a main dish, you can eat shrimp & grits. For shrimp & grits, you want real (not instant) grits. Prepare on the stovetop (sort of like Cream of Wheat or similar products). Cook the shrimp in a sauce with butter, tomatoes, bell peppers, cream & spices and serve over the grits. Heaven! Baked cheese grits is a staple side dish at my house. Prepare the grits on the stovetop. When ready, mix in one beaten egg, 1 cup grated sharp cheddar cheese, 1/2 tsp mace, 2 T butter, dash red pepper & dash of garlic salt. When melted, pour into baking dish & bake at 350 for 30-40 minutes (until top is set). > And BTW to non-USans: to you, "Yankee" means American. To us, > "Yankee" means Northerner and/or Union side of the Civil War. (And to > > Boston Red Sox fans [that's baseball], "Yankee" means anathema.) And to a southerner, Yankee means anyone born north of the Mason-Dixon line. Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Sun Mar 4 16:21:54 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:21:54 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits In-Reply-To: <97t7m3+bhdo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: I thought Hoof and Mouth was fatal. My major exposure to it was in the great Paul Newman movie "Hud" -- where his family's entire herd was slaughtered by the government health Nazis, allowing no-good son Paul to sell the ranch out from under his Daddy for the oil rights. SML ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: hamster8 at hotmail.com [mailto:hamster8 at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:08 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hoof and Mouth - attn Brits Foot and mouth barely affects animals. *There is no crisis whatsoever* ... it is just MAFF getting uppitty. Foot and mouth is no worse for animals than a bad cold for humans. They recover after about two weeks. If we just sit tight and let it blow over, it'll be fine. The problem is that having had f&m, milk and meat yields from affected herds decline dramatically. The reason we are slaughtering all our livestock is therefore primarily economic. It would not be profitable to sell recovered meat after the disease has died down because there would be a bit less of it - ergo this means Arch Commissar Grand Fuhrer Blair (ldr. Puppet Govt. of GW Bush & Country) seems to think we need to destroy everything. It is ridiculous, it has gotten completely out of hand. There is nothing to worry about. Just my two things. Al To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From simon at branford.inbox.as Sun Mar 4 16:42:33 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:42:33 -0000 Subject: This evenings chat In-Reply-To: <97tlbo+tetn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97tr9p+8dbl@eGroups.com> Dai: "I probably won't be able to make it to chat tonight as I have to work. I may make it in later, but not 'till 11pm or later." I will probably be quite late in. I am reading in chapel (7:30pm end) this evening and then will need to find some food to eat for dinner. Also need to catch up with some people to arrange stuff for next week. Hence I doubt I will make it much earlier than 9pm (4pm Eastern, 1pm Pacific). Then I also have lots of work and FAQ stuff to do. So will probably be not very active in the discussions. Pigwidgeon (your friendly overactive owl, who is possibly a little familiar to you all) -- HPforGrownUps is the place for the best weekly chat about all things related to the Harry Potter series by J.K. Rowling. That chats are on Sunday, starting at around 8 pm GMT. For more information please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts or feel free to e-mail me at mailto:simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 18:10:01 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:10:01 -0000 Subject: This evenings chat In-Reply-To: <97tr9p+8dbl@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97u0dp+h754@eGroups.com> Re - chat, as this is my first one *grins* do you need to subscribe to some sorta thingy, or does one just turn up? *Al, looking ignorant in his sudden newbie-ness* From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 18:14:35 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:14:35 -0000 Subject: Scott in England/ Oklahoma! In-Reply-To: <01a101c0a47b$5f37d0c0$9c3670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97u0mb+noql@eGroups.com> Neil asked me: Not sure whether you'll get to meet us, or not sure whether you'll want to meet us? [strokes evil villain moustache, stuck on for the occasion]." --Hmmm...Actually I'm not sure whether I'll be able to get to meet you. My summer studies programme includes classes six days a week, and I have the feeling I'm going to be busy. But I do WANT to meet you. Neil also asked: "I was raised on the 'old' musicals. My parents are serious Am Dram players and they've been in them all; particularly my Dad, who has played most of the leads in his day (including Curly). So, Scott... tell all: did you have a part, in Oklahoma?" --A part? Little ol' me? I'm labeled Chorus and the playbill has me as "Slim". I get to sing and dance and I have about five lines so I'm happy. It's fun though, and I'm really enjoying it. Theatre is great and musicals are so much fun to do. I was in "The Sound of Music" this past summer, and played Friedrich. Sure it was a bigger part but I've enjoyed both productions... Scott From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 4 18:29:39 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:29:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: This evenings chat References: <97u0dp+h754@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <008701c0a4d9$14499900$8e14a3d1@doreen> You are supposed to be able to go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat and chat, but I had to download Cheetah chat to be able to chat. Can anyone give better help than this? I must have deleted my detailed help letter from Neil or Steve... in the meantime, I will try to locate it in the archives ... or Al, you might try a search there ... Doreen ... will get back to you on this when I find the letter. ----- Original Message ----- From: hamster8 at hotmail.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: This evenings chat Re - chat, as this is my first one *grins* do you need to subscribe to some sorta thingy, or does one just turn up? *Al, looking ignorant in his sudden newbie-ness* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 18:28:46 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:28:46 -0000 Subject: corrections... In-Reply-To: <97t83h+f8qe@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97u1gu+260h@eGroups.com> Al wrote: "You misspelled biscuit. Um, what do you have against diggys? If we're in the habit of insulting each other's old and dignified snack food heritage, then can I take the opportunity to say I don't know how the Yanks can find something called an 'oreo' very appealing, but then again I'm still wondering over Walmart, and that leaves the list- Americans with a chance to come back at me and make bad jokes about Ribena. *Al grins*" --I'm not suprised that I misspelled biscuit. Please forgive me, I was REALLY tired...And I wasn't making fun of digestive biscuits, but I can't seem to get "cookies that work as laxatives" out of my head. No offence though! Scott From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sun Mar 4 18:30:32 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:30:32 -0000 Subject: This evenings chat In-Reply-To: <97u0dp+h754@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97u1k8+rnrk@eGroups.com> You go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/chat You have to be signed into the Yahoo!Groups-site to go there, but I believe you are already a member, so as long as you remmebr your login and password, you should be OK. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > Re - chat, as this is my first one *grins* do you need to > subscribe to some sorta thingy, or does one just turn up? > > *Al, looking ignorant in his sudden newbie-ness* From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 4 18:35:29 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:29 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: This evenings chat HELP for AL References: <97u0dp+h754@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <009101c0a4d9$e7cffd00$8e14a3d1@doreen> To take part in the chat you must be a member of the Yahoo Group HpforGrownUps. The simplest way to chat is to click on the chat option on the homepage of the Yahoo Group HPforGrownUps. It is also possible to use CheetaChat to take part in the chat. We have provided instructions on how to set up CheetaChat (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/message/62). We, the moderators, save the transcripts of the chats via CheetaChat's capabilities, which is the main reason for its use (apart from for Dee, who just adores blending the text colours). It also has many extra features not available using the plain Yahoo chat. The chat room is: *g.2176166:1 When in a chat you may notice that you do not recognize everyone's name. Many of us choose to go under aliases. The file: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/files/+Chatter%27s+List provides an indication of who many of the regular chatters are. We look forward to meeting you in the chats and if you need any more information then feel free to e-mail: HPforGrownupsChatScripts-owner at yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: hamster8 at hotmail.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: This evenings chat Re - chat, as this is my first one *grins* do you need to subscribe to some sorta thingy, or does one just turn up? *Al, looking ignorant in his sudden newbie-ness* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 18:57:20 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:57:20 -0000 Subject: Grits, Grits, Grits, (and Yanks) In-Reply-To: <3AA25A95.1BD56F8C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <97u36g+sm1k@eGroups.com> Amy Z wrote: "Okay, my Southern compatriots: never let it be said that a Yankee refuses to learn. Tell me how to eat grits! That thing with the fried eggs--can you do it with instant grits? I am clueless!" Penny wrote: I love grits! Instant or the real McCoy will work fine for basic pepper and/or cheese. You need to add butter or cheese for sure though -- plain grits are not all that great IMO." --As a southerner my family LOVES grits, but I've never cared for them much. If you've never had them it's kinda hard to explain. They are not exactly like Polenta, and I can't think of much else. Have you ever had Hominy? Grits are ground Hominy. Does that help? Instant Grits have been pre-cooked and dehydrated, whereas regular Grits are medium ground and quick Grits are fine ground. I was in California and they served us Grits thinking that a southerner can only go so long without them. Yuck! They were some of the worst things I've ever eaten. Penny wrote: "As a main dish, you can eat shrimp & grits. For shrimp & grits, you want real (not instant) grits. Prepare on the stovetop (sort of like Cream of Wheat or similar products). Cook the shrimp in a sauce with butter, tomatoes, bell peppers, cream & spices and serve over the grits. Heaven!" --Are kidding Penny you eat Grits with Shrimp? I'll hav3e to tell my Mom about that she likes both Shrimp and Grits... Who wrote this (Amy?): "And BTW to non-USans: to you, "Yankee" means American. To us, "Yankee" means Northerner and/or Union side of the Civil War. (And to Boston Red Sox fans [that's baseball], "Yankee" means anathema.)" Penny wrote: And to a southerner, Yankee means anyone born north of the Mason-Dixon line. --I don't mind if someone calls me a Yank, but a Yankee IS a different matter. In fact I have a feeling the Yankees would be more bothered by that than I would... Scott From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 19:15:10 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:15:10 -0000 Subject: Big reply ... was - re. Corrections ... In-Reply-To: <97u1gu+260h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97u47u+49nb@eGroups.com> Scott said --I'm not suprised that I misspelled biscuit. Please forgive me, I was REALLY tired...And I wasn't making fun of digestive biscuits, but I can't seem to get "cookies that work as laxatives" out of my head. No offence though! None whatsoever taken. I'd never thought of them as laxative biscuits before - I just happen to have a digestive biscuit addiction problem (but at least it keeps me off crack and heroin) ... that and jelly babies. And Ben & Jerry's. And Cadbury's Creme Eggs. Are grits like rice cakes? The only part of the States I've ever been to is Massachusetts and Cape Cod (lovely, but not south enough for grits) - and of course they don't have them in Canada, where I've also been. All Americans are Yanks in the UK. I never even considered you guys might use the term differently. It would be like us going around calling ourselves 'limeys' and 'poms.' That is to say, too weird :-) Thanks to everyone who helped me out re. the chats. I'll drop in later :-). From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 19:02:36 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:02:36 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: This evenings chat References: <97u0dp+h754@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <005d01c0a4dd$adea1220$923570c2@c5s910j> Al said: > Re - chat, as this is my first one *grins* do you need to subscribe > to some sorta thingy, or does one just turn up? > > *Al, looking ignorant in his sudden newbie-ness* Well, it looks like you've had the advice you need to get into the chat, but I'll mention for the record that the club's VFAQ (see below) includes all the info on how to get into the chat sessions, including a link to Chatscripts and to the following message, with the details:- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/12557 Neil ... wondering if hamsters bounce as well as ferrets. ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 19:17:40 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:17:40 -0000 Subject: Oxford meeting? (was Scott in England/ Oklahoma!) References: <97u0mb+noql@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001001c0a4df$c87d6fe0$ba3570c2@c5s910j> Scott said: > Neil asked me: > Not sure whether you'll get to meet us, or not sure whether you'll > want to meet us? [strokes evil villain moustache, stuck on for the > occasion]." --Hmmm...Actually I'm not sure whether I'll be able to get to meet you. My summer studies programme includes classes six days a week, and I have the feeling I'm going to be busy. But I do WANT to meet you. *** Well, if you and Ebony are both going to be in Oxford in July, it might be good for some of us to meet up there (and check out the HP film locations). I love Oxford and it's ages since I was last there... Just a thought. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 18:23:20 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:23:20 +0200 Subject: time for news - Brit question Message-ID: Hi, I've got a question for you Brits: What time are the evening news? Do you even have a major evening edition, like the Americans have the 6 o'clock and the 11 o'clock news? Thanks, Yael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being very well-dressed nails." - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 20:31:28 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:31:28 -0000 Subject: time for news - Brit question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97u8n0+pnak@eGroups.com> Yael said ... I've got a question for you Brits: What time are the evening news? Do you even have a major evening edition, like the Americans have the 6 o'clock and the 11 o'clock news? We have 5 terrestrial channels. BBC1 BBC2 ITV Channel 4 Channel 5 ITV and BBC1 are the biggest and most watched. Both BBC's are state channels and do not carry commercials. Evening news runs at the following times now. BBC1 - 6 pm, 10 pm BBC2 - no news ITV - 6.30 pm, 10 pm some nights, 11 pm Fridays Channel 4 - 7 pm Channel 5 - 6 pm, then hourly updates all night Before October 2000, BBC1 ran news at 9pm. ITV moved from 10 to 11 in 2000, but have now moved back to 10 for some reason. There has been quite a controversy about that here. Hope that helps. From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Sun Mar 4 21:00:39 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:00:39 -0000 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats In-Reply-To: <97sof1+8mef@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97uadn+ck06@eGroups.com> "Amy Z" wrote: > Okay, my Southern compatriots: never let it be said that a Yankee > refuses to learn. Tell me how to eat grits! That thing with the > fried eggs--can you do it with instant grits? I am clueless! Instant grits is a substitute (though the purists may kill me for that). Basically, you cook grits according to the package directions. You can eat grits such as you would cream of wheat. You can it in the place of rice. Mind you, grits is soft and creamy, so there isn't much in the way of texture. But you can certainly mix cheese into it. > (BTW, the eggs in Green Eggs and Ham are fried, not scrambled. That > must be a challenge to food-colorers.) > Most definitely, but I would have hated to see how my teacher would have gone about coloring the yolks of fried eggs....thankfully that trauma was avoided. > And BTW to non-USans: to you, "Yankee" means American. To us, > "Yankee" means Northerner and/or Union side of the Civil War. (And to > Boston Red Sox fans [that's baseball], "Yankee" means anathema.) > "Civil War"...there was nothing "civil" about the War Between the States (AKA War of Northern Aggression) :-)Milz From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 21:35:34 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:35:34 -0000 Subject: Liverpool In-Reply-To: <97thqj+8r5t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97ucf6+9993@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > A rounders ball is not soft (at least none of the ones I have played > with are). The game can be played with proper bases and many adults > play it regularly. It is just not that popular or well known. > Didn't realise adults played it! The only time I ever played it was at school ... do Americans ever play cricket? I once played a rounders-like thing in the States with a big soft ball - I *think* it was called snicker-ball???? > And as with a lot of sports. The English taught the world the game > and then the world taught England how to play. > Sigh. If only we could turn the clock back a hundred years or so. Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 21:43:24 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:43:24 -0000 Subject: time for news - Brit question In-Reply-To: <97u8n0+pnak@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97ucts+52mu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > Yael said ... > > I've got a question for you Brits: What time are the evening news? Do > you even have a major evening edition, like the Americans have the 6 > o'clock and the 11 o'clock news? I can't remember what your news programs are like, but over here, much of the News is speculation (and most of the weather "forecasts" are news). It's getting worse, even on the BBC ... there is much (chattering class) talk of "dumbing down" to stories about fluffy animals and the like. Sigh. Wotan From OH2BAFISH at aol.com Sun Mar 4 22:17:18 2001 From: OH2BAFISH at aol.com (OH2BAFISH at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:17:18 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP-OT Message-ID: Hey all, i know this is OT, but i went to www.Harrypotter.com yesterday, and the site has a teaser from the movie that's really good. so check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 4 22:02:07 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:02:07 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP-OT References: Message-ID: <004d01c0a4f6$c2283960$a83770c2@c5s910j> OH2BAFISH said: <> Um, where have you been? That clip was classed as on-topic, which is why it's not been mentioned much here. Neil (stares at the gazillion movie trailer posts over on HPfGU) ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 4 23:11:18 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:11:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: time for news - Brit question In-Reply-To: <97ucts+52mu@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010304231118.87415.qmail@web12809.mail.yahoo.com> ummm.okay this might have been mentionned already. even so, here i go: the main BBC news is at 6pm, the next update used to be at nine but has changed to 10pm. the ITV news used to be at 10pm but then changed to 11pm. recently it has changed back to 10pm and now competes with the BBC. Channel 4 news is at 7pm weekly, I'm not even gonna get into Channel 5 news. hope this helps somewhat/. --- tanwo at hotmail.com wrote:
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote:

> Yael said ...
>
> I've got a question for you Brits: What time are the evening news?
Do
> you even have a major evening edition, like the Americans have the
6
> o'clock and the 11 o'clock news?

I can't remember what your news programs are like, but over here,
much of the News is speculation (and most of the weather "forecasts"
are news). It's getting worse, even on the BBC ... there is much
(chattering class) talk of "dumbing down" to stories about fluffy
animals and the like. Sigh.


Wotan
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____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 01:26:55 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:26:55 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Grits, Yanks, bats References: <97sof1+8mef@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA2EB5F.4F5C39F5@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > (BTW, the eggs in Green Eggs and Ham are fried, not scrambled. That > must be a challenge to food-colorers.) And damned if I know exactly how he did it, but my dad managed fried green eggs. Alas, he has passed Beyond the Veil and cannot be asked. Someone phone Trelawney... By the way, I am a pureblood Southerner--sixth-generation Texan, qualifying for Daughters of the Republic, on one side, old Southern plantation on the other--and I HATE grits with a passion. They are not food. They taste like nothing. 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I am not at > all excited about your trip. I'm estatic! Namely because I am also > going to be in Oxford in July, and, I'm hoping, staying at Corpus > Christi! Do you believe that!?! I'm now undecided about whether I'm > more excited about going to England or the possibility of meeting > you! (and maybe the Brit members, but I'm not sure yet). Gosh, but > this is exciting. Yes, it is! So much for my "keep it in the closet" idea. :) There's no way Scott and I collectively could keep a lid on our HP obsession. What a coincidence... I can't wait to meet as many of you as I possibly can. :) --Ebony From ebonyink at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 02:44:00 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:44:00 -0000 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats In-Reply-To: <97uadn+ck06@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97uuhg+4snh@eGroups.com> Ooh, grits! What a cool topic! Milz wrote: > Instant grits is a substitute (though the purists may kill me for > that). Basically, you cook grits according to the package directions. You can eat grits such as you would cream of wheat. You can it in the place of rice. Mind you, grits is soft and creamy, so there isn't much in the way of texture. But you can certainly mix cheese into it. I've had grits of all sorts of textures actually--the soft and creamy kind is best, but as a child I preferred them slightly gritty. A big thing in Florida is fish and grits. My favorites are grits with scrambled eggs and cheese, and grits with butter-sugar-and-milk. Grits are definitely a Southern food... but growing up, I never thought of them that way. I think that black Americans eat them on a frighteningly regular basis all over the country--one of my aunt's biggest complaints about her neighborhood in Palo Alto is that there were no grits to be found. The difference between me and my Southern friend is that I ate them and never knew what sort of food I was eating. My freshman roommate got the biggest kick out of the fact that I actually thought there was a hominy plant. "City kids. Grits are made from corn." ;-) Can't comment on the Yank vs. Yankee debate, and won't comment about the Civil War. Wotan's comment made me grin, though. Suffice it to say that while the world has become a much more dangerous place overall, you couldn't pay me to want things to be the way they were 100 years ago. The thought of what my life would have most likely been like in the year 1901 doesn't make me nostalgic in the slightest. --Ebony From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 03:07:40 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:07:40 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Grits, Yanks, bats References: <97uuhg+4snh@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA302FC.130B7759@texas.net> Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > Suffice it to say that while the world has become a much more > dangerous place overall, you couldn't pay me to want things to be the > way they were 100 years ago. The thought of what my life would have > most likely been like in the year 1901 doesn't make me nostalgic in > the slightest. Especially not the giving birth part. Give me epidurals or give me death. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 03:11:54 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:11:54 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: Alan Rickman Newsletter, 5 March 2001] Message-ID: <3AA303FA.B52CD53@texas.net> I post this mostly for the first item, for you Sherlock Holmes types. But I forwarded the whole thing so I'd be sure to get all the credits and disclaimers and such in. --Amanda -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Alan Rickman Newsletter, 5 March 2001 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:45:34 -0800 From: Rickman Fans Reply-To: RickmanFans at yahoo.com To: AR_Newsletter at topica.com If you have any gossip, suggestions, queries or tips, please send them RickmanFans at cybamuse.com. REMEMBER: if you wish to be acknowledged (first name only), you will need to let me know. In this newsletter... 1. Elementary, my Dear Watson 2. Debut of the Harry Potter movie trailer 3. Its enough to get your hair all tied up in knots! 4. Possibly change of agents on the horizon 5. Name in vain 1. ELEMENTARY MY DEAR WATSON It takes Catherine Zeta-Jones to get this project noticed, but as she deliberates on taking part in a role in a Sherlock Holmes movie, an article at Ananova reports that ALAN RICKMAN IS ALREADY lined up to play Sherlock: Catherine Zeta Jones is considering a part in a film based on the life of Sherlock Holmes . Baker Street is loosely based Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's story The Sign of Four. Alan Rickman is tipped to star as Holmes, with Gabriel Byrne playing his sidekick Dr Watson. The Sign of Four also focuses on a secret love affair between Holmes and a married member of the aristocracy. Zeta Jones is reported to like the idea of making the movie with her own production company, which is jointly run by her younger brother Lyndon. A source told Ananova: "Catherine is fully occupied in America at the moment but she would love to come back to the UK to do some work and this is an ideal opportunity. "She doesn't feel she has anything to prove but her career has shifted up at least two gears since she left for Los Angeles about five years ago." The script for Baker Street is currently being developed, with a view to start filming in Spring next year. (Source: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_225584.html) ---------------------------- DEBUT OF THE HARRY POTTER MOVIE TRAILER ****** On the 2nd March, 2001, the highly anticipated Harry Potter movie trailer was unveiled. Fans flocked to see the 100 second-long trailer. You too can see it at the Official Harry Potter website (requires the free Real Player plugin): http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/web/dailyprophet/article.jsp?id=movie_trailer1 ALAN RICKMAN as Snape appears early on in the trailer and indeed, is practically the first big name star to appear in the trailer! As for the potential of the movie (as based on 100 seconds of footage.) looking good, and likely to retain the feel of the book! Many newspapers flocked to detail their opinion of the trailer, here is but one example (although most had similar positive opinions): Western Daily Press March 2, 2001 Wizard! Fans of Harry get first taste of Potter film BYLINE: Anthony Barnes FANS had their first taste of the magical world of Harry Potter yesterday as the trailer for theeagerly awaited movie was given its premiere. With a further eight and a half months before the film hits screens, film company Warner Brothers gave a sneak preview to devotees who logged on to the teenage wizard's web site, www.harrypotter.co.uk. Top British stars such as Dame Maggie Smith, Robbie Coltrane and Alan Rickman featured in the 100second clip which will be shown in cinemas in coming months. Screen veteran Richard Harris narrates the trailer in his role as Dumbledore, the headmaster of Hogwarts School for witchcraft and wizardry. Coltrane is transformed into the hirsute groundkeeper Rubeus Hagrid, while Dame Maggie becomes deputy head Professor Minerva McGonagall. Fans also had their first glimpse of the mysterious game of Quidditch as Harry, played by Daniel Radcliffe, and his school pals stare up into the air, holding on to their broomsticks, as the match begins. Harry is seen travelling to the school on the Hogwarts Express after being summoned by Dumbledore from his life in the cupboard under the stairs. In the shots his school pal Hermione Granger, played by Emma Watson, levitates a feather with her magic wand, although the footage is largely free of any lavish special effects. The movie, Harry Potter And The Philospher's Stone, is released on November 16. Much of the movie was shot in the West, with Gloucester Cathedral magically turned into Hogwart's School, where young wizard Harry and his friends learn their craft. Lacock in Wiltshire also saw action in the historic Abbey and nearby church. Local schoolchildren joined the cast as extras. A cat also features in the story and the word is that while members of the cast were freezing in the Abbey cloisters during filming, a special heater was used to warm up the stones so the cat would sit on them. (Source: Georgiana, AR GB*, March 2, 2001) The UK newspaper, The Guradian, had a more generic article summing up current activites surrounding the film and the trailer: Cinemagoers are well accustomed to being told a film is "the most eagerly awaited movie of the year" - but the tired claim seemed as if it might actually be justified yesterday as thousands of internet users rushed to catch a first glimpse of Harry Potter on celluloid in a trailer posted on the internet. But the movie will not be coming to a cinema near you soon. Audiences will have to wait until November to see it - making the trailer the most premature that Warner Brothers has ever released. The studio plans to schedule the 110-second snippet for exhibition in cinemas, where it will serve less as an advertisement than as a temporary sedative for already hyperventilating fans. A Warner spokeswoman said there had been "overwhelming interest" in the trailer, posted yesterday afternoon on the official website www.harrypotter.co.uk. It follows the trainee wizard from his enrolment in Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry to his discovery of the full extent of his magical powers, via special effects-laden scenes depicting the broomstick-piloting game of Quidditch. Numerous enthusiasts, sounding suspiciously like adults, flocked to the site's discussion forums yesterday to analyse the brief clip in detail. It is hard to draw many conclusions about the quality of the acting - 11-year-old Daniel Radcliffe, playing Harry, does not speak once. However, the scenes drip with evidence of the 80m that has been poured into shooting of the film at the Leavesden studios in Hertfordshire. Directed by Christopher Columbus, whose credits include Mrs Doubtfire and Stepmom, the film stars Alan Rickman, Maggie Smith, Robbie Coltrane and Ian Hart - plus a flock of computer-animated owls. These figure heavily in the online trailer. The sneak preview should provide Warner with some respite from a spate of bad publicity surrounding the movie. It has left the studio risking looking as much of a representative of the forces of evil as Potter's diabolical nemesis Voldemort himself. Within days of signing a $103m merchandising deal with Coca-Cola, Warner announced a partial cessation of hostilities in its bid to force several young fans operating websites to surrender internet domains which include the name Harry Potter. (Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,445241,00.html) ***** Even royalty awaits the release of the Harry Potter movie. When author of the Harry Potter books, J.K. Rowling, received an O.B.E. (Order of the British Empire) the other day, Prince Charles felt compelled to enquire after the film: And even the Prince of Wales showed his curiosity yesterday, when he revealed he was a Harry Potter fan and asked the schoolboy wizards creator JK Rowling: "Is the film as good as the book?" (Source: http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/scotland.cfm?id=51656&keyword=the NB: The Scotsman do not usually keep articles posted more than 24 hours) ------------------------- 3. ITS ENOUGH TO GET YOUR HAIR TIED UP IN KNOTS! ***** The action surrounding the film, Blow Dry, heats up With its debut in North America this week, and the UK a few weeks later, the gala events are popping up! ALAN RICKMAN will be attending the UK premiere of the movie according to the UK Newsquest Regional Press (2 March 2001) HEADLINE: Blow Dry: All star line-up for premier By Richard Brugger Movie mega-stars Alan Rickman and Natasha Richardson are now on the guest list for the glittering European premiere of Blow Dry. The movie from the pen of Full Monty writer and local man Simon Beaufoy is being premiered at The Picture House, in Keighley, on March 15. It has been confirmed that tickets for the event will go on sale from 1pm next Wednesday at The Picture House not next Tuesday as originally planned. It is also understood that there is a "good chance" that at least one of the film's top stars will attend the unique evening. They will join several other big-name cast members who are expected to be at the spectacular charity night, which will raise money for the Lord Mayor's appeal. Among those confirmed as attending is award-winning comedian Bill Nighy, who plays unscrupulous hairdresser Ray Roberts in the film. Stars of Coronation Street, Emmerdale and Heartbeat have also been invited, and Keighley's own BBC weatherman Paul Hudson will join the line up. Blow Dry( Certificate 15) which is set in Keighley as the town hosts the glamorous national hairdressing championships is on general release from March 30. A special Keighley News souvenir supplement, being produced to mark the occasion, will be included free in next week's issue. (Source: Georgiana, AR GB*, March 02, 2001) ***** Another trailer of the movie Blow Dry has also been released with many more scenes containing Alan Rickman. You can see it (with the assistance of the free Real Player plugin) at: http://www.moviefone.com (just do a quick search for blow dry) (Source: Originally brought to everyones attention in the AR GB*) ***** Extensive monitoring of Australian movie websites reveals the extremely disappointing news that Australian fans of Alan Rickman will have to wait until DECEMBER 26, 2001 to see Blow Dry! We will all be seeing it on DVD before then at this rate They will be seeing Alan Rickman in the much anticipated Harry Potter movie before then as it is scheduled for an Australian release on November 29, 2001 (Source: www.village.com.au) ------------------------ 4. POSSIBLY CHANGE OF AGENTS ON THE HORIZON In a very confusing article published at Variety.com, (27 February, 2001), it would appear that ALAN RICKMANs agent, Patrick Whitesell, has defected to another agency in America. According to Variety, ALAN RICKMAN and other stars are expected to keep move change agencies as well to remain with Whitesell: With chilled champagne growing warm and hot pizzas cooling, Endeavor's nine partners waited until well past 10 p.m. on Sunday night to welcome Patrick Whitesell. They would wait in vain. Whitesell, having taken in a premiere on Sunday afternoon, spent some five hours that evening notifying and negotiating his exit with CAA topper Richard Lovett in talks that lasted until midnight. When it was over, Whitesell, CAA's co-head of motion picture talent department, had defected to become Endeavor's 10th partner. He reps a slew of high-profile thesps including Drew Barrymore, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. Insiders at CAA say that all three thesps would likely follow him, along with longtime clients Jada Pinkett Smith and new signings like Jerry O'Connell ("Dracula 2000") and Hugh Jackman ("The X Men"). "I think in the end, what attracted me was the idea of contributing to the vision of where this company is going," Whitesell said, adding that "I'm going to be a part of something that is very exciting." Whitesell also reps thesps Jessica Alba, Jennifer Aniston, Christian Bale, Natasha McElhone, ALAN RICKMAN, Gary Sinise, Kimberly Williams and Sam Worthington -- all seen as potentially accompanying Whitesell to Endeavor. (Whitesell's CAA clients Jon Bon Jovi, Jordana Brewster, Kate Hudson and Craig Kilborn are thought likely to stay with CAA.) (Full article at: http://www.variety.com/body.asp?HbkId=3052572&subcat=-1&ArticleId=1117794355) --------------- 5. NAME IN VAIN When you are as well known as Alan Rickman, people will always try to make comparisons using Da Man as a reference: ***** DailyNews, Yahoo (26 February, 2001) ran an article with the British crowing about their prowess in the acting realm. Of course, ALAN RICKMAN, being a famous alunmi of RADA popped up (Full article at: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/bpibs/20010226/en/_b_h1_the_british_alternative_u_k_acting_schools_are_ok_h1_b__1.html) ***** According to the Scotsman Newsaper (28 February, 2001), a rash of musicals with British origins opening on Broadway brought in a comparison with Alan Rickman It would appear that one of the stars of Jane Eyre, The Musical has a star who reminded the article writer of Alan Rickman: Pray, gentle reader, pray that when Jane Eyre comes to Britain she brings with her James Barbour. He is Alan Rickman with a singing voice and a hint of Bryan Ferry. Such personal magnetism, I could feel my fillings loosen as I watched. No, I have no idea if the writer was of the male of feminine persuasion (Source: http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/index.cfm?id=50738&keyword=the NB: The Scotsman do not usually keep articles posted more than 24 hours) ***** On a more creative note, Tom Horton of the Scotsman (28 February, 2001) compared returning to the UK town of Wick to Alan Rickman in Dogma in his opening paragraph: ANY doubts over the existence of God and the Divine nature disappeared on Saturday, when it became clear that I was going to have to spend the night in Wick. As the angel played by ALAN RICKMAN in Kevin Smiths film Dogma says about the Creator, a wicked sense of humour is central to the nature of the Deity: spend years making fun of Wick in print and on the radio, and youll have to go there. (Source: http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/searchresults.cfm?id=50878&keyword=the NB: The Scotsman do not usually keep articles posted more than 24 hours) ***** More praise for Alan Rickmans presence on stage: THE DAILY TELEGRAPH(LONDON) March 03, 2001, Saturday "Top five moments of theatrical Viagra" 3 Les Liaisons Dangereuses, RSC (1985/86) Christopher Hampton struck box-office gold with his adaptation of Laclos's epistolary novel, in which two amoral French aristocrats corrupt the innocence of a 15-year-old girl and a virtuous married woman. Howard Davies's production was sexy, funny and chilling and there were hypnotic performances from Alan Rickman as the seducer, and Lindsay Duncan as his evil former mistress. I will never forget the sight of Rickman using a whore's naked back as a desk on which to write a love letter to the woman he will betray. 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The thought of what > my life would have > > most likely been like in the year 1901 doesn't > make me nostalgic in > > the slightest. > > Especially not the giving birth part. Give me > epidurals or give me > death. > > --Amanda > You said, Amanda - natural childbirth, who ever thought that was a good thing? Probably a man who cannot grasp the idea of the pain and agony that accompanies 36 hours of labour. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 08:02:07 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:02:07 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Life in 1901/giving birth References: <20010305031826.8595.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sheryll wrote: "You said, Amanda - natural childbirth, who ever thought that was a good thing? Probably a man who cannot grasp the idea of the pain and agony that accompanies 36 hours of labour." I've had most of my second delivery without epidural (had one installed when they thought i wan going into surgery, but it wore off after a while). While I agree that giving birth with it is a much nicer experience, I'd deliver a dozen babies without it and not another one under full anaesthesia like my first baby. just my two knuts. yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon -- -tonight's dinner: No idea -reading: Jeremy Paxman - The English -last film panned: Gladiator -last film enjoyed: American Beauty -CD player: Pulp - Different Class --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 11:33:31 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:33:31 -0000 Subject: Grits, Yanks, bats In-Reply-To: <97t9hc+7rsn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97vtib+sa5e@eGroups.com> Wotan wrote: > Actually (imagine the accent), we use Yank, not Yankee, since most of > us have enough nous to know that if he turns out to be a Southerner, > he'll punch us on the nose (and we'd never be so uncouth as to refer > to a lady as a Yank). I'm no lady. Go right ahead. > Rounders is a baseball-like game played by school-children with a > soft ball and a short bat (and coats piled up to make the bases). > This allows us to (a) claim we invented baseball and (b) loftily > dismiss it as a "children's game", thereby annoying any passing >Yank. Ah, thank you! Now, I've heard of rounders, but I thought it was extinct, mere nebulous proto-baseball form that it is. Actually, proper baseball historians know that whoever "invented" rounders (generations of British children, no doubt) deserves the title Parent of Baseball much more than Abner Doubleday. Milz wrote: > "Civil War"...there was nothing "civil" about the War Between the > States (AKA War of Northern Aggression) And here I was thinking I had so carefully chosen a generic term. Goes to show I learned about the Civil War in a Connecticut high school (where we actually mention slavery as one of the causes of the war . . . horrors!). The non-USans on this list are rapidly learning what every US American already knows: one hundred and thirty years later, the Civil War/War Between the States/War of Northern Aggression/War to Free the Slaves still isn't over. Amy Z oxymorons: civil war guest host Microsoft Works From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 11:38:21 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:38:21 -0000 Subject: Yanks In-Reply-To: <97u36g+sm1k@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <97vtrd+2ns6@eGroups.com> Scott wrote: > --I don't mind if someone calls me a Yank, but a Yankee IS a > different matter. In fact I have a feeling the Yankees would be more > bothered by that than I would... Nope, not this one. I'd mind if a Southerner called me that (unless it was definitely with a friendly smile), but not if a Brit did. I suppose if I were abroad in some country that has good reason to hate us (uh, let's see, that would be most of them) and someone called me a Yankee, I might be nervous, especially if he/she had an Uncle Sam doll in one hand and a can of gasoline in the other at the time. ;-) Amy Z From pbnesbit at msn.com Mon Mar 5 11:51:11 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:51:11 -0000 Subject: Future Obsessive Person Message-ID: <97vujf+lol4@eGroups.com> Hi-- That subject line probably makes no sense to you (it really didn't to me either). I just *had* to share this. My husband, Doug, has been teasing me for months about my HP obsession. I finally got him to read Philosopher's Stone. He just finished the 'Sorting Hat' chapter last night. He told me this morning that he had an HP related dream. I think we may have a live one! He loves the book, by the way. Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 12:37:23 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:37:23 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Future Obsessive Person References: <97vujf+lol4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Parker wrote: "He just finished the 'Sorting Hat' chapter last night. He told me this morning that he had an HP related dream." and then, Parker added: "I think we may have a live one!" Honestly! - Can you really consider someone who went to sleep in the middle of the book 'obsessed'? It took me three days and nights to finish GoF. I took a day off work, stayed up for 72 straight hours (all right, with two short breaks) and read it cover-to-cover. So sue me for being a slow reader. But i didn't stop to sl... sl... sleep. Honestly! Wonder why i missed the wand-order mistake... yael On second thought - Can your husband proofread as well as you? :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aichambaye at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 05:04:53 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:04:53 -0000 Subject: Color change? Message-ID: <97v6pl+e4bf@eGroups.com> Why the color change? Heather M. From pbnesbit at msn.com Mon Mar 5 12:52:47 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:52:47 -0000 Subject: Future Obsessive Person In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98026v+2p1i@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "yael oren" wrote: > Parker wrote: "He just finished the 'Sorting Hat' chapter last night. He told me this > morning that he had an HP related dream." > > and then, Parker added: "I think we may have a live one!" > > > Honestly! - > Can you really consider someone who went to sleep in the middle of the book 'obsessed'? > It took me three days and nights to finish GoF. I took a day off work, stayed up for 72 straight hours (all right, with two short breaks) and read it cover-to-cover. > So sue me for being a slow reader. But i didn't stop to sl... sl... sleep. Honestly! > Wonder why i missed the wand-order mistake... > > yael He didn't go to sleep in the middle of the book. He *reluctantly* put the book down to go to bed. *That's* when he had the dream. I think if he didn't have to work (he's the carpenter & cooper at Middleton Place, the same place I work as spinner/weaver) he'd be up until he finished the books. He likes them *that* much! > > On second thought - Can your husband proofread as well as you? :) We were both English majors (me--English & Library Science, him-- Theatre Arts & English) so probably. But he's not allowed to read fanfic until he finishes GoF. Can't have him getting canon Draco mixed up with that sexy, infuriating fanon Draco. Peace & Plenty, Parker From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 5 12:59:44 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:59:44 -0000 Subject: Going to England this summer... In-Reply-To: <97r7he+u0b0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9802k0+4fj7@eGroups.com> > > Just remember, when customs ask you if you've got any illegal > substances, tell them that you prefer to buy them once you get into > the country. Don't let the dour-faced sourpuss official looks fool > you, these chaps have a fine sense of humour ;) > However, don't say (when asked what you have in that case) that it's a gun or a bomb or anything, as this might result in armed police arriving and you being arrested and possibly deported. ...And this was the case even before someone tried to blow up the BBC at the weekend. At the risk of jumping on the bandwagon, I may bump into some of you in Oxford in July as am there graduating (only two-and-a-bit years after finishing my degree - not bad for university organisation) -Ben. From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 13:03:14 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:03:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Waw of Nawthun Aggray-u-shun References: <97vtib+sa5e@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA38E91.5862E2FD@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > /War to Free the Slaves Well, at the outset it was only about slavery inasmuch as the southern states resented the authority at D.C. trying to dictate their internal policies. Hence the "war of northern aggression." The South seceded because they believed the federal government had exceeded the rights granted to it by the Constitution. Other Constitutionalists of the time disagreed, however. Hard to say how history would read had the South held its own; as far as I've read, both opinions held weight. Be that as it may, the slaves were freed during the war by the Emancipation Proclamation, but that was a tactical move to erode the South's position--the slaves were a major part of the work force, and the North was trying to get them to turn, or to run away, or both. The Proclamation freed *only* the slaves in the rebel lands, too--slaves in the Union and territories, etc., were not freed until after the war, I believe. My husband's the real Civil War buff, I'd have to ask him when that was. So slavery was an integral issue to the Civil War, but not in the way most people think. The North went to war to preserve the Union, after the issue of states' rights caused the South to secede. It was just that the pivotal states' rights issue was slavery. --Amanda, who thinks the claims of the guy who says Texas isn't legally part of the Union have some merit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 13:22:56 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:22:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Future Obsessive Person In-Reply-To: <97vujf+lol4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010305132256.29558.qmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> --- pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > Hi-- > > That subject line probably makes no sense to you (it > really didn't to > me either). I just *had* to share this. > My husband, Doug, has been teasing me for months > about my HP > obsession. I finally got him to read Philosopher's > Stone. He just > finished the 'Sorting Hat' chapter last night. He > told me this > morning that he had an HP related dream. > > I think we may have a live one! > Reel hiim quick, before he gets away! What I want to know is how you got him to read it in the first place. I can't get mine to pick the books up unless he's passing them to me. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:32:37 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:32:37 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Future Obsessive Person References: <98026v+2p1i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Parker wrote: "He didn't go to sleep in the middle of the book. He *reluctantly* put the book down to go to bed. *That's* when he had the dream. I think if he didn't have to work (he's the carpenter & cooper at Middleton Place, the same place I work as spinner/weaver) he'd be up until he finished the books. He likes them *that* much!" All right, i can understand how a sleepy carpenter could become *nasty*. Just don't let it happen again! :) yael wrote: "On second thought - Can your husband proofread as well as you? :)" Parker wrote: "We were both English majors (me--English & Library Science, him-- Theatre Arts & English) so probably. But he's not allowed to read fanfic until he finishes GoF. Can't have him getting canon Draco mixed up with that sexy, infuriating fanon Draco. " Woo Hoo! Get him to read all the books (twice, preferably). Then, get him well-educated on all the fics over at the PoU list. Then, feed him a few of the others, and then, when he's completely ours to do as we please, get him to help you beta. Hopefully, the whole process will not take more than two weeks - just in time for my new chapter. yael (hoping she's not being taken seriously) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:34:30 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:34:30 -0000 Subject: Waw of Nawthun Aggray-u-shun In-Reply-To: <3AA38E91.5862E2FD@texas.net> Message-ID: <9804l6+noql@eGroups.com> I think we're drifting into politics here...we'd better cool it before we get run over by a Flying Ford Anglia. Amy Z hailing from Vermont, where if you really want to start a brawl, you suggest that Ethan Allen was a mercenary slimebucket From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 13:35:34 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:35:34 -0600 Subject: Cranberry Ice Cream! Message-ID: <3AA39626.4B049655@texas.net> Sorry this took so long. Among other things, when I went to get the cookbook there was a recluse spider on the book next to it, so I spent my online time for that day checking the rest of the kitchen. Silly, really--they don't run in packs, after all--but I can't help it. They give me the willies. At least the black widows stay *outside.* So far. ANYway....this is from the Star of Texas Cookbook, put out by the Junior League of Houston, with my observations interspersed. Cranberry Ice Cream 1 pint fresh cranberries (I have found that using one Northland-brand bag is about right, which fills a 2-cup measure slightly to overflowing). Water 1 cup sugar Juice of 1 lemon 1 1/2 cups whipping cream, whipped Cover cranberries with water and cook until skins pop open. [This is a neat trick, because cranberries are hollow and they float. I have that Visions cookware stuff, so I can see through the side of the pan, and I use enough water so that the cranberries aren't touching the bottom of the pan. If that helps.] I tend to cook the cranberries past the "pop" stage, until they lose most of their structural integrity entirely and the skins are floating around. Strain immediately... [I do so twice, just to get all the seeds out; if you cook them to the point I do, you'll have to use a spoon to "help" the juice through, because it starts to thicken pretty quickly].....and add sugar to the hot juice. Set the mixture aside to cool, and while you're waiting, whip the cream. When the juice/sugar mixture is cool, add the lemon juice. Fold in the whipped cream. The recipe now says, "Freeze in small portions in individual glasses or in ice cream freezer." I have tried the "freeze in small portions" thing and it's not as good as in a freezer (I suppose it would work well for popsicles). This recipe fills a 5-quart ice cream freezer about halfway; a double recipe's *just* a tad much. I imagine the amount of water you actually use would affect the volume you get. It's a beautiful pink, and tastes like a sherbet (the frozen kind, you Brits), but with a lovely creamy aftertaste. I have made this a number of times and haven't messed it up yet. Let me know if you try it. --Amanda From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 13:38:19 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:38:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Waw of Nawthun Aggray-u-shun References: <9804l6+noql@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA396CB.AB48819B@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > I think we're drifting into politics here...we'd better cool it before > we get run over by a Flying Ford Anglia. Wow, sorry. I thought it was clarification. None of it was just my opinion; that's what my history books say. > hailing from Vermont, where if you really want to start a brawl, you > suggest that Ethan Allen was a mercenary slimebucket Down here, Ethan Allen is a furniture store.... --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe I should start telling him I have a crush on someone in book 3 and jealousy will force him to get going. If none of this works, I might be reduced to asking him straight out to read them as a favor to me (hmm, the direct approach--never thought of that before! ). Amy Z From saitaina at wizzards.net Mon Mar 5 12:52:21 2001 From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:52:21 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fanfic Question-HELP! References: <980589+so25@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002c01c0a573$1f6f8c00$1f4e28d1@oemcomputer> Okay if you have three people and one motorcycle how do you fit them all? Saitaina http://www.angelfire.com/al/Diarys/index.html The New and Improved Watcher's Diarys-Come, Enjoy the Musty Smell! Home of BTVS, Angel, Anita Blake and one Harry Potter Fanfiction -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:49:43 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:49:43 -0000 Subject: Waw of Nawthun Aggray-u-shun In-Reply-To: <3AA396CB.AB48819B@texas.net> Message-ID: <9805hn+upnn@eGroups.com> > Amy Z wrote: > > > I think we're drifting into politics here...we'd better cool it before > > we get run over by a Flying Ford Anglia. Amanda wrote: > Wow, sorry. I thought it was clarification. None of it was just my > opinion; that's what my history books say. Just being cautious; I know it's a very loaded topic, and I don't want to inflame anyone. (Even "what the history books say" is far from neutral--put a Massachusetts and an Alabama textbook side by side sometime . . .) > Down here, Ethan Allen is a furniture store.... Up here too! But he's also a Revolutionary War hero (now I'm going to tick off the Brits ) and the only really famous Vermonter. Um, except Calvin Coolidge--whoop de do. Amy Z From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 13:49:48 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:49:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Crossing borders In-Reply-To: <9802k0+4fj7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010305134948.20135.qmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> --- Benjamin wrote: > > > > > Just remember, when customs ask you if you've got > any illegal > > substances, tell them that you prefer to buy them > once you get into > > the country. Don't let the dour-faced sourpuss > official looks fool > > you, these chaps have a fine sense of humour ;) > > > > However, don't say (when asked what you have in that > case) that it's > a gun or a bomb or anything, as this might result in > armed police > arriving and you being arrested and possibly > deported. > ...And this was the case even before someone tried > to blow up the BBC > at the weekend. > I've been chuckling at this thread, having had an interesting experience crossing the US/Canada border a week ago. Of course the first question they ask is where you're going. On hearing our driver reply, they immediately (because of her accent) asked where she was born (the Czech Republic). She travels to the US quite frequently, having lived there for a number of years, and often gets asked the most bizarre questions when they find out her country of birth. She's been asked everything from 'Why do you wear green nail polish?', to 'Do you have anyone in the trunk?'. This time around, no problem, perhaps because of the responses when he asked where the rest of were born. After all, who in would ever say they were born in Winnipeg, Manitoba (aka Winterpeg, Manisnowba)or Canadian Forces Base Petawawa (the notoriously worst military posting in Canada) unless they actually were. If we were making it up, we'd have picked better places! Okay, I've deteriorated down to rambling here, I'd better go to work. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 13:55:35 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:55:35 -0000 Subject: Crossing borders In-Reply-To: <20010305134948.20135.qmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9805sn+p9pg@eGroups.com> Sheryll wrote: > > > I've been chuckling at this thread, having had an > interesting experience crossing the US/Canada border a > week ago. Of course the first question they ask is > where you're going. The closest I've ever come to being given a hard time at the US/Canada border was when I told the Canadian customs guy that the reason I was going to Canada was to attend a Star Trek convention. He seemed both amused and suspicious, as if no one would actually drive all the way from Syracuse to Ottawa for such a trivial reason. (So much for Canadian pride. William Shatner and James Doohan are two of Canada's best exports!) Amy Z From voicelady at mymailstation.com Mon Mar 5 14:16:47 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 5 Mar 2001 06:16:47 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fanfic Question-HELP! Message-ID: <20010305141647.9058.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From saitaina at wizzards.net Mon Mar 5 13:21:07 2001 From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:21:07 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fanfic Question-HELP! References: <20010305141647.9058.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <004601c0a577$23c6db60$1f4e28d1@oemcomputer> AHHH *hugs*!!! I think I love you Hun! I was going to have the third roller-blade behind! 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Name: not available URL: From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Mon Mar 5 14:53:31 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:53:31 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Rambling over Kentucky (was Re: Buttermilk and absurd questions) Message-ID: This whole conversation just keeps making me smile. :) It's fun to find people with a similar background, or at least those who know about Ale-8-one! >I lived *in* Lancaster, in fact - and yes, it was rural, more so even >than Lofoten, Norway (whence I hail). My hostmother's parents lived >in danville, so I was there quite often. Many Sundays I listened to >the Rev. Otis Clark in the local congregation of Disciples of >Christ. ::sigh:: I prefer Church of Norway, truth be told.The >ceremonial of the Church of Norway seemed less theatrical to me thaan >the lack of same in Disciples of Christ. I'll add that i am not a >particularly religious person. I keep trying to explain the church phenomenon in Kentucky. A street next to my mom's house has 15 churches in a less than 3-mile stretch. I feel that's excessive. Not that I think church is a bad thing, I'm episcopalian and I go to church fairly often (every Sunday right now because my husband is being paid to be their resident tenor, but I probably wouldn't if that wasn't the case), but it's crazy in Kentucky. And I don't think I went to church once in Danville. I would occasionally drive to my church from when I lived in Lexington (It was right near Halls on the River and we would go through Lancaster to get there from Danville) but my heart goes out to you for sitting through a rural Kentucky Disciples of Christ service - no offense meant to those of you who might attend a rural Kentucky Disciples of Christ service, just not my cup of tea. [snip] >> Ah, Kentucky high school girls... well, it was an experience I >> guess. >Both he and her were in the band, her being 14 and pregnant, me being >18 and him being 20. I think they had a row beforehand, and he did >not seem to care at all (which, truth be told, was lucky for me and >my good health) >I noticed that most teachers did not react to girls putting on make- >up in class... Not all girls did it of course, but those who did >made up for those who didn't. *is forced to shudder thinking of such girls in her high school* >Comparing US highschool and Norwegian upper secondary school, the >teacher-student realtionship is very different - in Norway we are on >first-name basis with all teachers - it even extends to university in >some cases. It is not unheard of that if an upper-sec teacher and a >student are both out on the town a Friday or Saturday night, they >might have a drink together (you can buy alcohol from age 18 in >Norway). In general, the teacher's authority is relying less on >rules and more on what respect s/he actually has earned in the class- >room. I definitely had teachers who were more like that than your typical US teacher. I had a few that I hung out with on occasion, but it certainly isn't the norm. [snip] >> Although Kentucky Kingdom was pretty lame, then especially, they've >> been purchased by Six Flags, so I have hope for it. King's Island >> on the other hand, I adore. I tried to plan my last trip home so I >> could go, but it ended up being 29 degrees the day I wanted to go, >> which isn't great roller coaster weather. Sad. That's one thing >> Seattle is missing! We have earthquakes instead! >Well, Kentucky Kingdom nearly destroyed my back - I had to crawl out >of bed of my stomach for several months afterwards. Come to think >about it, I should have sued them - could have landed myself some >millions there. Too bad you missed out on a settlement! Actually, the one time I went there, I had a similar complaint from a different coaster. The starchaser either wasn't there or was closed when I was there, though I remember hearing about it. >There was this lawyer with real tacky commercials on >the Kentucky networks... Melbourne Mills Jr? *laughs* [snip] >I agree on King's Island - it was great. I chose to stay away from >the rollercoasters, though... That's too bad because the coasters are what makes King's Island great. Boy I miss the Beast and the Vortex! I adore roller coasters, but I can understand why you might not! [snip] >Have you, btw, any recollection of Ale-8-One? Just had to ask! What good Kentucky girl wouldn't know about Ale-8-One?! Personally I'm not wild about it... we used to call it Winchester Swamp Water, but now that I don't live there I get it sometimes when I'm home. My friend's dad writes the advertising jingles for them. >One thing I noted in USA was the size of supermarkets - they were >large. Wal-Mart and K-Mart particularly are a phenomenon not seen in >Norway. The biggest store I saw, however, was a Meyer-store. It >dwarfed even the largest K-/Walmart-stores - 36 cashregisters, I >believe, all of them busy. The food-section dwarfed the large >grocery-stores in Danville, for certain. Yeah, and this isn't nearly as much the case here. There are a few places like that, but I miss the Wal-Mart or Meyer stores that are open all night. You could get anything you wanted anytime you wanted. And get your exercise too! Of course that was about all there was to do, besides going to Mr. Gatti's for pizza and video games. And the video store. Actually, the Lexington area is a mecca for shopping, and I've heard a major US test market for stores and products. Here in Seattle you just order your groceries online and have them delivered to you! Meredith From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Mon Mar 5 14:54:34 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:54:34 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Accents Message-ID: That is maybe the funniest story I've ever heard! I'll have to use that... bacon, or no bacon? No bacon, please. Mer -----Original Message----- From: Trina [mailto:lj2d30 at gateway.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:23 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Accents I'm originally from Illinois, but have family in Tennessee, so the southern accent thing was never a big deal or problem with me--until I moved to very rural North Carolina. I had an awful time getting used the way they talked, but I was nowhere near as bad as my friend Traci, who originated from NYC. Soon after she and her boyfriend Eric moved to town they went to Shoney's for dinner. Hostess--"Bacon, or no bacon?" Traci--"Excuse me?" Hostess--"Bacon,or no bacon?" Traci aside to Eric--"Why does she want to know if we want bacon?" Eric to Traci--"She wants to know if we want "smoking or no smoking." When she told the rest of transplanted Yankees this story, we laughed hysterically and from then on, whenever we went out to eat, we had to ask Traci if we wanted the "Bacon or no bacon" section. Trina Yahoo! Groups Sponsor 3 DVDs for ONLY 49 cents each! Click for Details To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From nera at rconnect.com Mon Mar 5 15:13:29 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:13:29 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Future Obsessive Person References: <97vujf+lol4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002c01c0a586$d68decc0$2614a3d1@doreen> Hi-- That subject line probably makes no sense to you (it really didn't to me either). I just *had* to share this. My husband, Doug, has been teasing me for months about my HP obsession. I finally got him to read Philosopher's Stone. He just finished the 'Sorting Hat' chapter last night. He told me this morning that he had an HP related dream. I think we may have a live one! He loves the book, by the way. Peace & Plenty, Parker Isn't it just great fun getting another person hooked on our obsessions? I have a friend to whom I loaned my paperback copy of SS. Then, I needed it to look up some stuff ... it drove me crazy not to have it on hand. (this was before I had all 4 in hardcover) She kept asking me if she could have it back to finish reading. I finally bought another copy, loaned it to her, and she has since loaned it to two other people. Nan and I keep trying to convince other people in our chat room to read HP, but we have competition from Dune readers ... but we keep at it. 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Among the most important things to know, is the meaning of the expression UFF DA. UFF DA IS: * trying to dance the polka to rock and roll music * losing your wad of gum in the chicken yard * having Swedish meat balls at a lutefisk supper * spending two hours cleaning up my room and my mom says 'Uff Da' * walking downtown and then wondering what you wanted * arriving late at a lutefisk supper and getting served minced ham instead * looking in the mirror and discovering you're not getting better, just older * trying to pour two buckets of manure into one bucket * having a mouse crawl up your leg when you're on a hayload * eating hot soup when you've got a runny nose * getting out of bed in the morning with a backache * getting swished in the face with a cow's wet tail * waking yourself up in church with your own snoring * forgetting your mother-in-law's first name * when two steady boy/girl friends find out about each other * noticing non-Norwegians at a church dinner using lefse for a napkin * eating a delicious sandwich and then discovering the spread is cat food * sneezing so hard your false teeth end up in the bread plate AND * UFF DA is NOT being Norwegian Yahoo! 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Much to my surprize and to the surprize of my friend from Georgia, polenta was simply good old cornmeal mush! The texture was a little coarser, but mush it was. I guess polenta sounds more exotic and appetising than cornmeal mush. :-)Milz From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 18:19:57 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:19:57 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Grits, Yanks, bats and Polenta References: <980l1c+r4tn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA3D8CC.87BC9F2B@texas.net> absinthe at mad.scientist.com wrote: > I guess polenta sounds more exotic and appetising than cornmeal mush. You can charge more for it, too. Witness the price difference between restaurants that serve "food" and those that serve "cuisine." --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Mon Mar 5 18:22:09 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:22:09 -0700 Subject: Middleton Place? (WAAS: Future Obsessive Person) In-Reply-To: <98026v+2p1i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>Parker wrote: (he's the carpenter & cooper at Middleton Place, the same place I work as spinner/weaver)<<<<<<<<< TELL, TELL!!!!! Is this one of those exhibits where you act the part of a historical craftsman? Is this a full-time job? Whatever it is, it sounds fascinating! SML ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Mon Mar 5 18:41:15 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:41:15 -0000 Subject: Testing Message-ID: <980mkb+4ccq@eGroups.com> Just checking to see if i can post at all - I have sent several lengthy posts to this group, and they do not seem to have made it, even several hours later. I hate it when I lose posts like that. From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 5 18:42:26 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Testing References: <980mkb+4ccq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA3DE12.3B850519@texas.net> pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no wrote: > Just checking to see if i can post at all - I have sent several > lengthy posts to this group, and they do not seem to have made it, > even several hours later. I hate it when I lose posts like that. Huh? Sorry, did you say something? --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Mon Mar 5 18:53:03 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:53:03 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UFF DA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>>>Yael wrote: So, finding out that the place where you have most of your lunch breaks was blown up in an attempted terrorist attack two hours after you've been there would be considered UFF DA? yael *still grumpy* <<<<< Still grumpy? I would be bathed in cold sweat. Very glad to hear that you weren't an on-the-spot witness. What do people accomplish with these terrorist bombings? They certainly aren't going to win anyone over to their side this way. All they do is reinforce the notion in some people's minds that the terrorists should be squashed without mercy. SML, Shivering and sick at violence From simon at branford.inbox.as Mon Mar 5 19:42:39 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:42:39 -0000 Subject: FW: SB's sanity Message-ID: There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact where talking about Sirius. I can go and rest in peace knowing that I am in fact insane (not in Seine). Simon -- "I was a workaholic. I was up to three bottles of workahol a day." - Paul Merton --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 00:43:41 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:43:41 -0000 Subject: Oxford meeting? (was Scott in England/ Oklahoma!) In-Reply-To: <001001c0a4df$c87d6fe0$ba3570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <97unft+hnp5@eGroups.com> Neil wrote: "Well, if you and Ebony are both going to be in Oxford in July, it might be good for some of us to meet up there (and check out the HP film locations). I love Oxford and it's ages since I was last there... --Possibly. I'll e-mail Ebony off-list and see what she thinks about it. Scott From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Mon Mar 5 16:51:46 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:51:46 -0000 Subject: Rambling over Kentucky In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <980g72+4baj@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: > This whole conversation just keeps making me smile. :) It's fun to > find people with a similar background, or at least those who know > about Ale-8-one! > [snip] > I keep trying to explain the church phenomenon in Kentucky. A > street next to my mom's house has 15 churches in a less than 3-mile > stretch. I feel that's excessive. Not that I think church is a > bad thing, I'm episcopalian and I go to church fairly often (every > Sunday right now because my husband is being paid to be their > resident tenor, but I probably wouldn't if that wasn't the case), > but it's crazy in Kentucky. And I don't think I went to church > once in Danville. I would occasionally drive to my church from > when I lived in Lexington (It was right near Halls on the River and > we would go through Lancaster to get there from Danville) but my > heart goes out to you for sitting through a rural Kentucky > Disciples of Christ service - no offense meant to those of you who > might attend a rural Kentucky Disciples of Christ service, just not > my cup of tea. My teacher in English III also noted the church-phenomenon, and she said that Garrard County was more excessive in that respect than most of Kentucky. Is the Episcopal church the same as the Anglican Church? It would be rather more similar to the Church of Norway then. In general I noted that USA seems to have a tradition towards rather small churches with small differences in beliefs and anmes - you'd have Church of God, First Church of God, United Church of God, First United Church of God, etc. - quite strange to someone coming from a country where 85% belong to Church of Norway. [snip] > > I definitely had teachers who were more like that than your typical > US teacher. I had a few that I hung out with on occasion, but it > certainly isn't the norm. Well, in Garrard County it would not work. The principal there was probably a typical 'Good Ole Boy'. He was also rumoured to (a) have an affair with his secretary; (b) being brutal to his wife; and (c) being brutal towards some students. The then acting assistant principal was much nicer, and much more popular. The fact that he also brought the girls' basketball team to the state playoffs (first team ever from that school to do so in any sport) certainly did not hurt. The Norwegian school is in general more liberal in what it teaches, as well, even if church and state are not separate in Norway (we have religion-classes in school up to 10th form, and then again in 13th form). Also, we do not have rules for how many buttons may be unbuttoned in your shirt, or how long your shorts must be. I was on the academic team of my school, and one school we visited, had such rules (the distance between the knee and the lower edge of the shorts should not exceed three inches). Norwegian school is also rather more fond of forcing students to write on tests and exams rather than choose option (a), (b), (c) or (d) for each question. In Norwegian (the subject) and English, we must write essays on our exams from 7th form on, at least five pages long (A4 or letter format). Multiple Choice is almost unheard of - we just write and write and write... [snip] > >> We have earthquakes instead! Well, we have earthquakes in Norway too, but they rarely go beyond 3.5 - I don't know if any have ever reached 4. It is with some interest I noted that people in the central Mississippi Valley and on the North Carolina coast should probably be much more nervous about earth-quakes than they are. I recall seeing figures for 90% probablitiy for a 6.5+ there within the next 50 years. [snip] > Too bad you missed out on a settlement! Actually, the one time I > went there, I had a similar complaint from a different coaster. > The starchaser either wasn't there or was closed when I was there, > though I remember hearing about it. > > >There was this lawyer with real tacky commercials on > >the Kentucky networks... > > Melbourne Mills Jr? *laughs* I think that's the one - he had one where he exits a court-house, and a T-Rex come thundering down the street, until he uses a remote (I think) to shrink the T-Rex into something that would have trouble taking on a chihuahua. [snip] > That's too bad because the coasters are what makes King's Island > great. Boy I miss the Beast and the Vortex! I adore roller > coasters, but I can understand why you might not! Well, after my experience with the Starchaser, I have not been particularly keen on rollercoasters. The Starchaser was my first experience with a rollercoaster, and looks destined to be my last as well. Is the vortext the one were you hang from the rails rather than sit in cars on teh rails? > [snip] > > >Have you, btw, any recollection of Ale-8-One? Just had to ask! > > What good Kentucky girl wouldn't know about Ale-8-One?! Personally > I'm not wild about it... we used to call it Winchester Swamp Water, > but now that I don't live there I get it sometimes when I'm home. > My friend's dad writes the advertising jingles for them. > > >One thing I noted in USA was the size of supermarkets - they were > >large. Wal-Mart and K-Mart particularly are a phenomenon not seen in > >Norway. The biggest store I saw, however, was a Meyer-store. It > >dwarfed even the largest K-/Walmart-stores - 36 cashregisters, I > >believe, all of them busy. The food-section dwarfed the large > >grocery-stores in Danville, for certain. > > Yeah, and this isn't nearly as much the case here. There are a few > places like that, but I miss the Wal-Mart or Meyer stores that are > open all night. You could get anything you wanted anytime you > wanted. And get your exercise too! Of course that was about all > there was to do, besides going to Mr. Gatti's for pizza and video > games. And the video store. Actually, the Lexington area is a > mecca for shopping, and I've heard a major US test market for > stores and products. Here in Seattle you just order your groceries > online and have them delivered to you! I recall S'Barro's - they had this closed pizza that I was really fond of. I did not shop particularly much in Lexington, and when I was there, I was mostly at Fayette Mall. Lancaster had a socalled antique-store (where I bought a used copy of "Airport" by Arthur Hailey, and a US Army Aricraft Recognition Handbook I was probably not allowed to own), a dime-store, a post-office, a clothing-store, two independent burger-places, a Dairy-Queen, a Lee's, a country diner, two grocery-stores (one with bizarre trolleys) and two gas- stations. If we wanted to do something, we had to go to Danville, Richmond or Lexington. Do not get me wrong - I had a very nice time in Kentucky (apart from the infections), but there were so many oddities to note. I also noted that many exchange-students in the region apparently like to use the "i'm foreign - I don't understand"-line to worm their way out of trouble - that annoyed me so incredibly much! From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Mon Mar 5 17:24:49 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:24:49 -0000 Subject: Testing Message-ID: <980i51+eof5@eGroups.com> I made two rather lengthy posts to this site, and none have shown up. I am just testing if this is still the case. I truly hate loosing posts! From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Mon Mar 5 16:48:32 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:48:32 -0000 Subject: Cocoa-Cola Cake Message-ID: <980g10+ilf1@eGroups.com> This recipe was passed on to me by an Internet acquaintance. I have not had the opportunity to try it myself, due to a number of problems with converting the recipe into Norwegian standard. Among other things I am in doubt as to whter I can replace buttermilk with regular sour-milk, as I understood the descriptions of buttermilk to be a bit different from sourmilk. Also, I have not the foggiest idea how much a stick of butter is (I know *what* it is - I have seen the advertisments: "Cooks who know trust Crisco, etc.). I know, of course, that 1 stick equals 1/2 cup, but I am *not* going to stuff butter into a measurement- cup. ::Adopts air of insufferable superiority:: Honestly; why can't you just adopt the metric system like *sivilized* countries do?! Also, how much is in a "box" of powdered sugar? Is it common in USA to use recipes with measurments in boxes and sticks rather than ounzes and cups? Below is a cut&paste from the original email I got from my acquaintance: ------------------------------------- Sorry, no M&Ms.. it was meant as mmmm good.. nummy.. ;) This is a recipe that has been in my family for YEARS (like 30 or something) and it has been made at tons of birthdays (mine mainly) It makes a great cake for the chocolate lover. One important thing to mention is that you will need a few extra ingredients. A TON OF MILK (the cake is REALLY rich and you need something to wash it down with ;) and a LOT of SLIM FAST. I think we calculated the total calories to be something in the few HUNDRED calorie per slice range ;) ALSO, if you bake this cake, I am entitled to a slice because I didnt get a cake for my birthday last week! Cocoa Cola Cake (the cake itsself): 2 cups unsifted flour 2 cups sugar 2 sticks of butter (1cup) 4 Tbs cocoa 1 cup coca cola 1 tsp baking soda 1/2 cup Buttermilk 2 eggs (beaten) 1 tsp vanilla 1 1/2 cups of small marshmellows Directions: Preheat oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Grease and flour a 9x12x2" pan. Combine flour and sugar in mixing bowl. Heat "deo" (I am guessing it is butter because it doesn't show up in the directions), cocoa, and coca cola to boiling and pour over sugar and flour mixture. Mix well. Add Buttermilk, eggs, soda, vanilla, and marshmellows. Mix well. This will be a thin batter with marshmellows floating on top. Pour batter into pan and bake for 30-35 minutes. Cocoa Cola Cake (frosting): 1 stick butter (1/2 cup) 3 Tbsp cocoa 6 Tbsp coca cola 1 box powdered sugar Directions: Heat butter, cocoa, and coca cola to boiling point, pour over powdered sugar, beat well. SPREAD OVER HOT CAKE Yes.. HOT cake, not cooled cake. ------------------------------------- From voicelady at mymailstation.com Mon Mar 5 21:13:39 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 5 Mar 2001 13:13:39 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UFF DA Message-ID: <20010305211339.27018.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Mon Mar 5 21:50:59 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:50:59 -0000 Subject: Yahoo! seems a bit out of whack today Message-ID: <9811o3+3i1s@eGroups.com> And bloody slow too - well worth an UFF DA, as far as I am concerned. I post to this group via the site rather than via mail, and still, three of my messages needed five hours just to appear on the main site. Just disregard my second message titled "Testing" (It was in fact the first, by a diference of several hours). From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 5 21:55:03 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:55:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Cocoa-Cola Cake In-Reply-To: <980g10+ilf1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no wrote: > This recipe was passed on to me by an Internet acquaintance. I have > not had the opportunity to try it myself, due to a number of problems > with converting the recipe into Norwegian standard. Among other > things I am in doubt as to whter I can replace buttermilk with > regular sour-milk, as I understood the descriptions of buttermilk to > be a bit different from sourmilk. Buttermilk is different from sour milk, and it is called for in recipes that would've formerly used sour milk, because pasteurized milk won't sour naturally (it just spoils). You can substitute buttermilk for sour milk -- I'm pretty sure you can substitute the other way also. > ::Adopts air of insufferable superiority:: Honestly; why can't > you just adopt the metric system like *sivilized* countries do?! 'Cause then they'd have to abandon one of the basics of elementary school math? *g* How many cups in a pint? How many pints in a quart? How many quarts in a gallon? *shudders at the recollection* I was really hopeless at it too. (My grades in math *vastly* improved when we began to learn real math rather than arithmetic. I was also much better at algebra and calculus than geometry and trigonometry.) I still haven't the faintest idea how some of the conversions work -- how many teaspoons in a tablespoon, for instance. So they teach the nice, easy metric system just to remind you of what might've been... but I *still* wouldn't want to switch (call my attitude parochial, if you must *g*), because while I understand them abstractly, I have no real world sense of metric measures. I could pour, say, a half cup of milk without a measuring cup, because I *know* how much it is, but 125 mL has no 'meaning' to me... I suspect most of us Americans feel that way, and therefore don't want to change, and it doesn't seem that anyone's going to make us... > Also, how much is in a "box" of powdered sugar? Is it common in USA > to use recipes with measurments in boxes and sticks rather than > ounzes and cups? I've never actually seen a call for a box of powdered sugar before; I wasn't even aware that they were always the same size. The box in my cabinet has 3 3/4 cups. It is common, however, to use measurements like that, particularly in recipes that aren't in cookbooks intended for a wide audience. Butter and margarine are often measured in sticks, since that's the way most of us would get them from the store. But you'll also see them measured in cups. I can't recall that I've *ever* seen a recipe that called for something in ounces, without giving an alternative of how to measure it (ie. '12 oz (1 package) of chips')... I'd not know how to measure that, since it's a weight measure... But it's definitely not uncommon for recipes to call for a certain size package (box) of something... The cake sounds quite interesting.... --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From neilward at dircon.co.uk Mon Mar 5 21:50:55 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:50:55 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Color change? References: <97v6pl+e4bf@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <030201c0a5be$5b8fe4a0$cc3670c2@c5s910j> Heather asked: <> I just redecorated. It's the colour of beets - don't you like it? Neil From tanwo at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 00:10:37 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:10:37 -0000 Subject: Crossing borders In-Reply-To: <9805sn+p9pg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9819tt+ltmo@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > The closest I've ever come to being given a hard time at the US/Canada > border was when I told the Canadian customs guy that the reason I was > going to Canada was to attend a Star Trek convention. He seemed both > amused and suspicious, as if no one would actually drive all the > way from Syracuse to Ottawa for such a trivial reason. (So much for > Canadian pride. William Shatner and James Doohan are two of Canada's > best exports!) > The most fun I had (I'm English) was when crossing from Mexico into the US. The Customs guy took a look at my passport and said "English? >From London?" To which I replied in a moment of light- heartedness, "Si Senor". He gave me a hard five minutes, explaining the problems that workaday Customs Officers face without smart-arsed Limeys making light of it ... then he let me in. Woetan. From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 6 00:20:51 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:20:51 -0000 Subject: Cocoa-Cola Cake In-Reply-To: <980g10+ilf1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <981ah3+gett@eGroups.com> In addition to what Jen Faulkner wrote, here are some conversions. 5 ml = 1 tsp (teaspoon) 15 ml= 1 T (or TBLS) (tablespoon) 1 cup= 8 oz = 240 ml 1 lb = 16 oz = 2.2 kg Generally, a box of powdered sugar is what Jen said terms of cup measurement and it is also 1 lb or 2.2 kg in weight. The US is legally metrified, since 1975 I think. But we've successfully resisted metrification. All goods sold in cans, bottles and other containers and packages are marked with metrically and marked the "normal" way. But no one really pays attention to the metric. Gasoline is sold by the gallon. Potatoes are sold by the pound. Distance is measured in inches, feet, yards and miles. The only time I use metric is at work because medications are measured metrically. :-)Milz From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 6 00:28:54 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:28:54 -0000 Subject: Cocoa-Cola Cake And sticks of butter In-Reply-To: <981ah3+gett@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <981b06+hevn@eGroups.com> Forgot to include the bit about the butter. Butter and magarine are sold by the pound for the most part. The shape is a rectangular block. The block is divided into length wise quarters to form the "sticks". So a stick of butter is a quarter of a pound or 4 oz or 120 ml. I should look through one of my older cookbooks and post the conversions in the HPFood group. :-)Milz From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 6 00:35:39 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:35:39 -0000 Subject: Middleton Place? (WAAS: Future Obsessive Person) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981bcs+f4sv@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > >>>>>>Parker wrote: > (he's the carpenter & cooper at Middleton Place, > the same place I work as spinner/weaver)<<<<<<<<< > > TELL, TELL!!!!! Is this one of those exhibits where you act the part of a > historical craftsman? Is this a full-time job? Whatever it is, it sounds > fascinating! > > SML > > > ============================================== > "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing > slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid > zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt > whiskey?" > --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire > ============================================== SML (& anyone else who's interested) Middleton Place is a historic rice Plantation in Charleston, SC. We've got the oldest landscaped gardens in the US, a house museum (only so-so, IMNSHO), & the Stableyards, where we have animals & craftspeople. Us crafter folks dress in 18th century (totally historically accurate) clothing, just as enslaved Africans would have worn. We talk to people & demonstrate the crafts. It *is* fascinating. I work part time, slated to go to full time just as soon as I show them I can weave ( which is what I've been doing for 13 years). Doug works full time. Make an excuse to come to Charleston (not that you really need one--it's beautiful here) & come & see us. We can get you in free, by the way. Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 6 00:41:10 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:41:10 -0000 Subject: How to get someone addicted In-Reply-To: <980589+so25@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <981bn6+dv9p@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Parker wrote: > > >I just *had* to share this. > > My husband, Doug, has been teasing me for months about my HP > > obsession. I finally got him to read Philosopher's Stone. > > Ooh, Parker, what's your secret? I want to get my dh hooked but I > haven't found a way. Maybe on a long drive he'll consent to listen to > the tape...he's not much of a books-on-tape person, though. > > I think he's getting a little tired of my being so wrapped up in > something he knows nothing about. I keep having to fill him in (no > spoilers, of course) in order to tell him something funny that came up > on the list. But so far he has only once said, "maybe I'll read them > eventually," and hasn't made a move toward picking them up. > > Maybe I should start telling him I have a crush on someone in book 3 > and jealousy will force him to get going. > > If none of this works, I might be reduced to asking him straight out > to read them as a favor to me (hmm, the direct approach--never thought > of that before! ). > > Amy Z Well, Amy, I just let things in the book slip into everyday conversation. One of my favourites is when I forget something--or Doug does--I'll say, 'oh, I'm (or you're) having a Neville moment.' He asked me the obvious--'who's Neville & what in the h**l has that got to do with anything?' I grinned & said 'Read the books.' Did that enough times & boy, he was hooked. Parker From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 6 00:44:53 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:44:53 -0000 Subject: Future Obsessive Person In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981bu5+q4po@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "yael oren" wrote: > > Parker wrote: "We were both English majors (me--English & Library Science, him-- > Theatre Arts & English) so probably. But he's not allowed to read > fanfic until he finishes GoF. Can't have him getting canon Draco > mixed up with that sexy, infuriating fanon Draco. " > > Woo Hoo! Get him to read all the books (twice, preferably). Then, get him well-educated on all the fics over at the PoU list. Then, feed him a few of the others, and then, when he's completely ours to do as we please, get him to help you beta. > Hopefully, the whole process will not take more than two weeks - just in time for my new chapter. > > yael (hoping she's not being taken seriously) Actually, Yael, that's just what I was planning to do with (to?) him! Parker From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 6 01:46:26 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:46:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Cocoa-Cola Cake References: Message-ID: <3AA44171.F85ABEF7@texas.net> I have a good buttermilk substitute, involving whole milk soured with white vinegar, and if anyone wants it I'll go look at my mom's pound cake recipe and get you the proportions. --Amanda Jen Faulkner wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no wrote: > > > This recipe was passed on to me by an Internet acquaintance. I have > > > not had the opportunity to try it myself, due to a number of > problems > > with converting the recipe into Norwegian standard. Among other > > things I am in doubt as to whter I can replace buttermilk with > > regular sour-milk, as I understood the descriptions of buttermilk to > > > be a bit different from sourmilk. > > Buttermilk is different from sour milk, and it is called for in > recipes > that would've formerly used sour milk, because pasteurized milk won't > sour naturally (it just spoils). You can substitute buttermilk for > sour > milk -- I'm pretty sure you can substitute the other way also. > > > ::Adopts air of insufferable superiority:: Honestly; why can't > > you just adopt the metric system like *sivilized* countries do?! > > 'Cause then they'd have to abandon one of the basics of elementary > school math? *g* How many cups in a pint? How many pints in a quart? > How many quarts in a gallon? *shudders at the recollection* I was > really hopeless at it too. (My grades in math *vastly* improved when > we > began to learn real math rather than arithmetic. I was also much > better > at algebra and calculus than geometry and trigonometry.) I still > haven't the faintest idea how some of the conversions work -- how many > > teaspoons in a tablespoon, for instance. So they teach the nice, easy > > metric system just to remind you of what might've been... but I > *still* > wouldn't want to switch (call my attitude parochial, if you must *g*), > > because while I understand them abstractly, I have no real world sense > > of metric measures. I could pour, say, a half cup of milk without a > measuring cup, because I *know* how much it is, but 125 mL has no > 'meaning' to me... I suspect most of us Americans feel that way, and > therefore don't want to change, and it doesn't seem that anyone's > going > to make us... > > > Also, how much is in a "box" of powdered sugar? Is it common in USA > > > to use recipes with measurments in boxes and sticks rather than > > ounzes and cups? > > I've never actually seen a call for a box of powdered sugar before; I > wasn't even aware that they were always the same size. The box in my > cabinet has 3 3/4 cups. It is common, however, to use measurements > like > that, particularly in recipes that aren't in cookbooks intended for a > wide audience. Butter and margarine are often measured in sticks, > since > that's the way most of us would get them from the store. But you'll > also see them measured in cups. I can't recall that I've *ever* seen > a > recipe that called for something in ounces, without giving an > alternative of how to measure it (ie. '12 oz (1 package) of chips')... > > I'd not know how to measure that, since it's a weight measure... But > it's definitely not uncommon for recipes to call for a certain size > package (box) of something... > > The cake sounds quite interesting.... > > --jen :) > > * * * * * * > Jen's HP fics: > http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html > Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash > Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Classmates.com] Click here for Classmates.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail9R.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailVU.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 02:48:33 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:48:33 -0000 Subject: Color change? In-Reply-To: <030201c0a5be$5b8fe4a0$cc3670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <981j61+ccc1@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Heather asked: > > <> > > I just redecorated. It's the colour of beets - don't you like it? > > Neil Maybe it's just my screen - but it's, um... I don't like beets much. I was just surprised! Heather (evil grin) From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 02:53:26 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:53:26 -0000 Subject: Cocoa-Cola Cake In-Reply-To: <981ah3+gett@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <981jf6+us2q@eGroups.com> Um, that doesn't sound right! > 1 lb = 16 oz = 2.2 kg > > Generally, a box of powdered sugar is what Jen said terms of cup > measurement and it is also 1 lb or 2.2 kg in weight. I way many fewer KG than LBs, so I think you've got it backwards. The following is confirmed with reference to the box of borwn sugar in the kitchen. 2.2 lbs = 1 kg l lb = 453 g Heather From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 6 02:56:40 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 20:56:40 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Color change? References: <981j61+ccc1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA451E8.84D2EDB@texas.net> aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > Maybe it's just my screen - but it's, um... I don't like beets much. I > was just surprised! Okay, I give. What *are* you guys talking about? --Amanda, evidently colorblind -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lj2d30 at gateway.net Tue Mar 6 02:57:33 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:57:33 -0000 Subject: FW: SB's sanity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981jmt+51bg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact were talking about Sirius. > > I can go and rest in peace knowing that I am in fact insane (not in Seine). > > Simon Oh, Simon, we were just trying to gaslight you and you caught us. There goes the fun. Trina From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 02:59:19 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:59:19 -0000 Subject: Color change? In-Reply-To: <3AA451E8.84D2EDB@texas.net> Message-ID: <981jq7+9iv1@eGroups.com> Up until a few days ago, the purple bars were light blue and white, rather than dark purple and pinkish. Heather *g* who likes purple but is pulling the admin's leg. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > aichambaye at y... wrote: > > > Maybe it's just my screen - but it's, um... I don't like beets much. I > > was just surprised! > > Okay, I give. What *are* you guys talking about? > > --Amanda, evidently colorblind From purdymango1 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 03:14:45 2001 From: purdymango1 at yahoo.com (Teek) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:14:45 -0000 Subject: FW: "SB"'s sanity, obsessives. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981kn5+fdik@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in > the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call > me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact where > talking about Sirius. > > I can go and rest in peace knowing that I am in fact insane (not in Seine). > > Simon Aah, today I saw a minature Simon while at work. (Children's library... can I say dream job?) He looked just like you, with Harry's glasses... round and black. Cute, but kind of creepy that I noticed. In other Potter news, my friend came by and asked me to suggest reading and I sent him home with CoS... the boy somehow managed to read SS without immediately wanting to read the entire rest of the series. I think he's defective. ...so do the potter references make this OT? ;) -Teek, whom the color scheme keeps making me want bubblegum From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 6 03:29:50 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:29:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: FW: "SB"'s sanity, obsessives. In-Reply-To: <981kn5+fdik@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Teek wrote: > In other Potter news, my friend came by and asked me to suggest > reading and I sent him home with CoS... the boy somehow managed to > read SS without immediately wanting to read the entire rest of the > series. I think he's defective. Uh-oh! He's defective? You'd better send him back then... demand a refund. Or at least ask that they replace the HP circuit... (Apologies. Translating panegyric about Cicero (into Latin!) makes me silly.) More seriously though, I wasn't much into the books until after GoF; I had read them all, but my reaction was more a kind of, "Ehn, that was nice," than any real enthusiasm for them. Should I admit something awful? The first few books made so little impression on me (I think I read each of them in about an hour) that when I finally did feel enthused after GoF I remembered almost nothing about the characters and plots from the first three -- I do remember saying, back in August, to someone, "Lupin? Who was that?" *hangs head in shame before bursting into mostly unrepentant laughter* I also managed to forget who Quirrell and Lockhart were... maybe I just had a block against DADA teachers? :) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 03:41:49 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:41:49 -0000 Subject: Snape Addiction. Ship?? Me and ... Sirius or Snape? Message-ID: <981m9t+mb9c@eGroups.com> All: This may be sort of funny, but I never thought Snape was terribly sexy. I got **shivers** over Sirius and Lupin. Good guys with a bit of bad... ooooh! So sexy! Both good to kids, but not goodie-goodie to the point of irrationality. Both capable of friendship, both with some trust issues and personal problems. And let me preface what I am about to say with a comment about Rickman. I've seen him in LOTS of stuff and he's quite good, but he never struck me as particularly sexy. But the trailer has made clear to me the error of my ways. Alan Rickman has Snape down, no doubt about that creepy look in the trailer. But he's also dead sexy as Snape. Now, maybe I just like bad guys-who-aren't- really- that- bad. But seriusly, (no pun intended) Snape is a hottie. I can't wait to re-read the books with new eyes. Snape fans unite and tell me why I have the hots for a man who is twice my age (It's not rickman, again, it's the Snape charachter!)! HELP! Heather M. From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 03:45:38 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:45:38 -0000 Subject: Measuring (was Re: Cocoa-Cola Cake) In-Reply-To: <981jf6+us2q@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <981mh2+k9v2@eGroups.com> I must confess that I just don't understand Metric measurments. I know how to do them as Science requirs using SI, but as far as using it in baking and such I don't think I could. This is one of the worst parts about using cookbooks that I've gotten in England, they don't have the handy conversions like the Two Fat Ladies, or Naked Chef recipes on the internet... You'll find out however that over here (in America) and most especially in the South no one ever seems to measure anything. A family recipe might call for flour to thicken, a pinch of this and a sprinkle of that. I find that there are some things I rarely measure. Of course when one is baking be sure to measure everything exact or you're apt to mess up. (and always use dry measuring cups for dry and wet for wet. They don't work the other way around). Scott From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Tue Mar 6 03:58:41 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:58:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Measuring (was Re: Cocoa-Cola Cake) In-Reply-To: <981mh2+k9v2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Scott wrote: > This is one of the worst parts about using cookbooks that I've > gotten in England, they don't have the handy conversions like the > Two Fat Ladies, or Naked Chef recipes on the internet... One of the most confusing things, I've found, is how the measurements for temperature to cook things at are completely different (something about gas settings?)... on PBS, they usually subtitle those sorts of things, and measurements in general... and of course, PBS is my means of exposure to most things British, other than literature... :) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From love2write_11098 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 05:50:45 2001 From: love2write_11098 at yahoo.com (love2write_11098 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 05:50:45 -0000 Subject: Hello everyone Message-ID: <981trl+628o@eGroups.com> Hello everyone. Some of you probably know me. I'm pretty active on the PoU list; less active on the HP Fanfiction and HP4GU list. I'm Stacy and I'm a senior in high school (almost out of high school -- thank goodness!) Has anyone else here found that the HP audio tapes are their key to being a patient driver? I swear, I pop one of those tapes in and suddenly getting stuck behind a guy doing 20 miles an hour in a 35 mile an hour zone doesn't seem like the worst fate in the world. Even music doesn't do that to me (though I do find Jim Dale's Hermione voice VERY annoying -- does he HAVE to draw out his vowels?) Also, is Dale the same guy who did the voice over in "The Adventures of Milo and Otis" about . . . oh, probably 10 years ago? So is this supposed to go here? Since it isn't analysis of the HP books, I figured this was the right place for it. Stacy From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 6 06:04:40 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:04:40 -0700 Subject: Schafer's E-mail Message-ID: According to the author blurb in the back of the book "Beacham's Sourcebooks for Teaching Young Adult Fiction: Exploring Harry Potter" by Elizabeth D. Schafer, Dr. Schafer may be contacted by e-mail at novelprof at yahoo.com. (In case that address gets blanked by Yahoo mail, it's novelprof ('at' sign) yahoo.com without the spaces and with the @ sign. Perhaps some of our Potter Prefects (Moderators) could send a nice literate well-thought-out message to her about that book she wrote... Failing that, perhaps going to www.beachampublishing.com and leaving a message would work? SML ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 08:37:07 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:37:07 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Testing References: <980mkb+4ccq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Just checking to see if i can post at all - I have sent several lengthy posts to this group, and they do not seem to have made it, even several hours later. I hate it when I lose posts like that. well, i've had worse - my rant attack made it to the list with a two-days delay, after i completely cooled down. This is embarrassing. yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From john at walton.to Tue Mar 6 12:17:12 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:17:12 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Measuring (was Re: Cocoa-Cola Cake) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jen Faulkner wrote: > One of the most confusing things, I've found, is how the measurements > for temperature to cook things at are completely different (something > about gas settings?)... on PBS, they usually subtitle those sorts of > things, and measurements in general... and of course, PBS is my > means of exposure to most things British, other than literature... :) Ah, that would be the Gas Mark settings. Most (if not all) British ovens/stoves/ranges/whatevers which run off gas (no, not gasoline/petrol) measure heat by "Gas Marks". I have no idea how many Gas Marks there are -- 6-10 IIRC -- having never owned a gas oven/range/yadda/yadda. I'm sure that, somewhere, there is an internet site which will give measurement translations. Unfortunately, my web browser is as dead as Nancy Stouffer's literary career, so I can't go hunt :( --John == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 6 12:49:10 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 06:49:10 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Color change? References: <981jq7+9iv1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA4DCC6.A70B399E@texas.net> aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > Up until a few days ago, the purple bars were light blue and white, > rather than dark purple and pinkish. I repeat, what ARE you talking about? Do you get colors on your posts? Other than the little Yahoo groups sponsor thing at the bottom? 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In-Reply-To: <3AA4DCC6.A70B399E@texas.net> Message-ID: <982mtn+5e40@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > aichambaye at y... wrote: [snip] > I repeat, what ARE you talking about? Do you get colors on your > posts? Other than the little Yahoo groups sponsor thing at the > bottom? Must be hard to read. > > --Amanda, plain white wrapper You're subscribed to this list with individual emails or digests, I presume. Some of us chise the option "no email/web only" when subscribing, and therefore go to the site (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/ ) to read messages - and at the site there are colours. Not as many as on the food-group, though. From hamster8 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 13:12:02 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:12:02 -0000 Subject: Color change and mobile phones In-Reply-To: <982mtn+5e40@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <982nn2+jh92@eGroups.com> Amanda said ... I repeat, what ARE you talking about? Do you get colors on your posts? Other than the little Yahoo groups sponsor thing at the bottom? Must be hard to read. I *like* the colours. All pink and homely. Nice. Something really weird just happened to me, some guy walked past my computer with a mobile phone (I'm on a university cluster) and my screen went all fuzzy. I knew mobile phones affect stuff like that, but it's never actually happened to me before now ... which is cool. Sorry, window on my bizarre life there. *Al saunters vaguely westwards* From simon at branford.inbox.as Tue Mar 6 13:12:29 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:12:29 -0000 Subject: SB sanity and Gas Marks In-Reply-To: <983869483.397.40500.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Simon: "There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact were talking about Sirius. I can go and rest in peace knowing that I am in fact insane (not in Seine)." Trina: "Oh, Simon, we were just trying to gaslight you and you caught us. There goes the fun." Teek: "Aah, today I saw a minature Simon while at work. (Children's library... can I say dream job?) He looked just like you, with Harry's glasses... round and black. Cute, but kind of creepy that I noticed." Gaslight me? You where trying to set me on fire? A miniature version of me. That does sound scary. Everyone will be running for cover! Many say that one of me is quite enough (and often too much!). I was thinking of getting new glasses soon, but decided that glasses like Harry's would be taking things a bit far. Children's library a dream job? It depends on what aged kids you get. If it is the little ones and you get to read all the cute children's books to and with them then yes. The older ones are usually too much trouble to get them to read (that is spoken from experience of people trying to get me to read when I was a teenager, I still have not managed to complete my GCSE set texts). John: "Most (if not all) British ovens/stoves/ranges/whatevers which run off gas (no, not gasoline/petrol) measure heat by "Gas Marks". I have no idea how many Gas Marks there are -- 6-10 IIRC -- having never owned a gas oven/range/yadda/yadda." There are 9 gas marks, but some modern ovens include things ling 1/2 and 1/4 as well. Not to mention a plate warming temperature and a light on at the back of an oven one! Gas hobs are much nicer to cook on than electric, as they are much more responsive to changing the heat level. Go here for conversion from one to another: http://www.globalgourmet.com/cgi-bin/hts?convcalc.hts and also conversion of weights and measures. I have never been one for being too accurate with measurements when cooking. Most of my recipes are a bit of this and a bit of that, until it tastes right. Even when cooking cakes I do not make a great effort to be overly accurate. For most things it is simply not needed. Pigwidgeon -- "... a minute owl, small enough to fit into the palm of his hand, whizzing excitedly around the room like a loose firework." "Oh, look at the weeny owl! Isn't he cute?" Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by Jo Rowling --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 13:47:01 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:47:01 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] mobile phones References: <982nn2+jh92@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Something really weird just happened to me, some guy walked past my computer with a mobile phone (I'm on a university cluster) and my screen went all fuzzy. I knew mobile phones affect stuff like that, but it's never actually happened to me before now ... which is cool. You realise that that could be because of the *guy* and not because of the phone. yael *grinning evilly* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 6 16:05:36 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:05:36 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Measuring UK/US conversions References: Message-ID: <002901c0a657$49ab42e0$4914a3d1@doreen> I'm sure that, somewhere, there is an internet site which will give measurement translations. Unfortunately, my web browser is as dead as Nancy Stouffer's literary career, so I can't go hunt :( --John Here is a url for all your conversion needs ... neatly done in tables, which I tried to copy here but am not talented enough to align them correctly. http://marycontrary.tripod.com/food/charts.html It includes just about any information about the differences in UK/US cooking that I can think of asking. Doreen From hamster8 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:10:25 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:10:25 -0000 Subject: mobile phones In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98325h+12ke@eGroups.com> Yael said ... You realise that that could be because of the *guy* and not because of the phone. I do *not* know what this woman is on about :-) *Al grins stupidly* From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 6 16:22:33 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:22:33 -0000 Subject: Food, again... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9832s9+7lo6@eGroups.com> Simon wrote: "A miniature version of me. That does sound scary. Everyone will be running for cover! Many say that one of me is quite enough (and often too much!)" and continued: "Even when cooking cakes I do not make a great effort to be overly accurate. For most things it is simply not needed." One of Simon is definitely not enough, as he can't be in Oxford to finish his degree and be here to cook for / with me. The chocolate cake, is, incidentally, to die for (or of, as you may be skewered by a splinter of solid flying chocolate, if you use too much force when cutting through the half-inch thick topping). The point of this post though, is to find out what to do with some leftover coconut milk (having made a curry, and some chocolate sauce for dipping fruit in) and also what to do with two baby avocados (which really ought to be worded better...) Anyway, as you're all capable of chatting for days about food, I guessed someone might have an idea... > Children's library a dream job? It depends on what aged kids you get ...that is spoken from experience of people trying to get me to read when I was a teenager, I still have not managed to complete my GCSE set texts. Strange boy, personally I liked GCSE English, got to read all I liked and listen to stuff too. Hmmm reading aloud "that scottish play" wasn't exactly the highlight though - I was cast as Lady Macbeth... "whizzing excitedly around the room like a loose firework." Somebody has been feeding him too much again. Be careful of overdoing the sugar. -Ben. "... Even though I know that it's true, I don't want it to be true, I hate that it's true. I just can't imagine, what God was thinking" HHH From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 6 16:28:14 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:28:14 -0000 Subject: mobile phones In-Reply-To: <98325h+12ke@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98336u+l279@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > Yael said ... > > You realise that that could be because of the *guy* and not because > of the phone. > > I do *not* know what this woman is on about :-) > *Al grins stupidly* ...Sadly, it's 'cos of the phone, I use my monitor as an early warning system, which causes me to leap up and search my pockets and lab for where I've secreted my mobile. Which results in a lot of strange looks if it doesn't ring and the distortion was actually caused by some eejit turning up a magnetic field too high. -Ben. "Any well developed technology is indistinguishable from magic" ACC From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:32:01 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:32:01 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Measuring UK/US conversions References: <002901c0a657$49ab42e0$4914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: John wrote: "I'm sure that, somewhere, there is an internet site which will give measurement translations. Unfortunately, my web browser is as dead as Nancy Stouffer's literary career, so I can't go hunt :(" Doreen wrote: "Here is a url for all your conversion needs ... neatly done in tables, which I tried to copy here but am not talented enough to align them correctly. http://marycontrary.tripod.com/food/charts.html It includes just about any information about the differences in UK/US cooking that I can think of asking." You could also download the babylon translator from http://www.babylon.com. The download requires a browser, but after you have it, you can translate any possible measurement to anything else without even being on-line. If you're still having problems and need it desperately, let me know, and i'll try to mail it to you (it is ~5M compressed) yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karob_7 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 16:36:10 2001 From: karob_7 at yahoo.com (karob_7 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:36:10 -0000 Subject: Hello everyone In-Reply-To: <981trl+628o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9833lq+7ful@eGroups.com> Stacy wrote: > Has anyone else here found that the HP audio tapes are their key to > being a patient driver? I swear, I pop one of those tapes in and > suddenly getting stuck behind a guy doing 20 miles an hour in a 35 > mile an hour zone doesn't seem like the worst fate in the world. > Even music doesn't do that to me> I know just what you mean, and it's the strangest thing. Road rage is a thing of the past . The downside is that I have this tendency to get a late start going to work, and getting behind these 20 mph drivers and not noticing doesn't do much for my punctuality. Karin From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 6 16:41:26 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:41:26 -0700 Subject: Another Swiftie Message-ID: I thought of another "Tom Swifty" last night -- I hope no one has used this word yet... "That Potter boy is really starting to get on my nerves!" said Voldemort in a harried voice. SML ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:48:04 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:48:04 -0000 Subject: FW: SB's sanity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9834c4+hb20@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Simon" wrote: > There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in > the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call > me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact where > talking about Sirius. You're on to us--we may as well confess. The whole thing is a code, and SB does stand for Simon Branford. In fact, there is no Sirius Black. JKR is in on the whole thing, and wrote PoA as an exposition on you, cleverly concealed as a barely-sane but insanely sexy character with the same initials. Play along for the sake of the series, OK? AZ who seldom meets anyone with her initials From tacrader at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 16:50:42 2001 From: tacrader at yahoo.com (tacrader at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:50:42 -0000 Subject: Sorting Hat results Message-ID: <9834h2+9gt4@eGroups.com> Now I know that I am not the only one who has been sorted by multiple sorting hats. My favorite so far is on selectsmart.com which uses a personality test to sort you...unlike some that are just random clicks. Does anyone else have a favorite? I'd love to try them. Secondly, why can't WB have the best....well, anything on the "official site"? So many way better fan sites out there! Thanks! In case you were wondering I keep popping up a Gryffindor, was actually a little disappointed that I wasn't a Ravenclaw, then realized how silly, I am now in the same house as the Weasley's and Dumbledore himself (not to mention Harry's mom, Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc, etc, etc...) From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:55:15 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:55:15 -0000 Subject: How to get someone addicted In-Reply-To: <981bn6+dv9p@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9834pj+v3oo@eGroups.com> Parker wrote: > He asked me the obvious--'who's Neville & what in the h**l has that > got to do with anything?' I grinned & said 'Read the books.' Did > that enough times & boy, he was hooked. My dh is a gentle soul, but he just might slug me if I did that too often. j/k! If only it were something you could just slip into someone's pumpkin juice..."Essence of Hogwarts." (Oblivious spouse downs juice, gives odd shudder) "Honey, what's wrong?" "I...I don't know. All of a sudden I have a burning desire to leap onto something called a Firebolt. I don't even know what that means, but I know I won't rest until I've read everything by J.K. Rowling." ;-) Amy Z From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 6 17:29:17 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:29:17 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? References: Message-ID: <007801c0a662$fa542c00$4914a3d1@doreen> I thought of another "Tom Swifty" last night -- I hope no one has used this word yet... "That Potter boy is really starting to get on my nerves!" said Voldemort in a harried voice. SML Nope. That one has not been done. I now have a list of 34 Tom Swifties. I really think they deserve a place of honor... but where? I don't quite think they fit in the Lexicon scheme of things ... or do they? Also, I really do need to go back through them and add who created them. Originally, I just wanted the list for myself... so I didn't bother with names. Now, though, I want to give credit where credit is due. They are so cleverly creative. Doreen From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Tue Mar 6 19:01:30 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:01:30 -0000 Subject: Cocoa-Cola Cake In-Reply-To: <981jf6+us2q@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <983c6a+u73v@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > Um, that doesn't sound right! > > > 1 lb = 16 oz = 2.2 kg > > > > Generally, a box of powdered sugar is what Jen said terms of cup > > measurement and it is also 1 lb or 2.2 kg in weight. > > I way many fewer KG than LBs, so I think you've got it backwards. The > following is confirmed with reference to the box of borwn sugar in > the kitchen. > > 2.2 lbs = 1 kg > > l lb = 453 g > > Heather You're correct! that's the problem when you resist metrification....you can get things mixed up! Anyhoo, I looked through some of my cookbooks. It seems the old copy of Julia Child's "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" is the only book with a really good chapter about conversions and even the gas mark problem. Newer cookbooks seem to skip over these sections. :-)Milz From simon at branford.inbox.as Tue Mar 6 19:09:51 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:09:51 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" In-Reply-To: <97mc8d+c9f2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <983clv+fjiu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Can you think of others? I am not sure if I have got this right, but anyway... "Ron has beaten me at chess," complained Hermione, (k)nightly The crazy little owl, who can't do his work. Pig From neilward at dircon.co.uk Tue Mar 6 19:51:34 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:51:34 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" (a few more) In-Reply-To: <983clv+fjiu@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <983f46+skl8@eGroups.com> More Swifties I'm not sure I've read all the others, so I may be repeating some ideas. In fact, I'm sure I am . *** "I'm going to tell on you!" said Peeves, transparently. "Hold that thought!" said Dumbledore, pensively. "Ooops. My head is hanging off again," said Nearly Headless Nick, severely. "That's right, my parents are both dentists," said Hermione, incisively. "I work for Grunnings, the drill manufacturer," said Vernon, boringly. "That broom's not up to much," said Draco, sweepingly. This next one isn't really canonical, but still . "Please remember the rules of netiquette!" said Flying Ford Anglia, exhaustively. Neil (still at work, and off soon for a restaurant birthday 'do'... may check in later, if I'm sober enough) From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Tue Mar 6 20:02:16 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:02:16 -0000 Subject: Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? In-Reply-To: <007801c0a662$fa542c00$4914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <983fo8+vsth@eGroups.com> Doreen - you should be able to upload your list into the Files area of this Yahoo-Group easily. It's a simple process. Just click on "Files" on the left menu, then open the folder called "Club_Humor" then click on "add file." Browse for the file on your system, add a caption, and upload the file. Try to give your file a reasonably short name, and don't include spaces in the name if you can help it. You can edit both the file name and the caption after you upload. Oh, and here are some more Swifties: "Sirius's letter says that a she-dog has moved in with him," Harry said, animatedly. "First years, please come this way," said McGonagall, unidirectionally. "Who's the weirdo in the turban sitting up front?" asked Ron, querulously. "I got to visit Viktor in Bulgaria for three weeks last summer... It was wonderful!" said Hermione, expectantly. ________________________________________________________________ Here's a fanfic Swiftie, for those of you who have read Draco Dormens/Sinister by Cassandra: "He'll never break out of *that* cell," said Salizar Slitherin, adamantly. ________________________________________________________________ --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > I thought of another "Tom Swifty" last night -- > I hope no one has used this word yet... > > "That Potter boy is really starting to get > on my nerves!" said Voldemort in a harried voice. > > SML > > Nope. That one has not been done. I now have a list of 34 Tom Swifties. I > really think they deserve a place of honor... but where? I don't quite think > they fit in the Lexicon scheme of things ... or do they? Also, I really do > need to go back through them and add who created them. Originally, I just > wanted the list for myself... so I didn't bother with names. Now, though, I > want to give credit where credit is due. They are so cleverly creative. > Doreen From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 6 20:18:03 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:18:03 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? In-Reply-To: <007801c0a662$fa542c00$4914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: Post the list to the OTChatter File Section, at least.... :) We'll all have "temporary immortality" -- kinda like Voldemort. SML ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: Doreen [mailto:nera at rconnect.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:29 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? I thought of another "Tom Swifty" last night -- I hope no one has used this word yet... "That Potter boy is really starting to get on my nerves!" said Voldemort in a harried voice. SML Nope. That one has not been done. I now have a list of 34 Tom Swifties. I really think they deserve a place of honor... but where? I don't quite think they fit in the Lexicon scheme of things ... or do they? Also, I really do need to go back through them and add who created them. Originally, I just wanted the list for myself... so I didn't bother with names. Now, though, I want to give credit where credit is due. They are so cleverly creative. Doreen To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 6 20:20:03 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:20:03 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? In-Reply-To: <983fo8+vsth@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>>Jim wrote: "I got to visit Viktor in Bulgaria for three weeks last summer... It was wonderful!" said Hermione, expectantly.<<<<<<< Ooooh, Jim, that's a mean blow! Whatever happened to those contraceptive charms we all discussed? LOL!! SML ________________________________________________________________ From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Tue Mar 6 20:47:59 2001 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 6 Mar 2001 20:47:59 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter Message-ID: <983911679.3050.45441.jd@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HPFGU-OTChatter group. File : /Tom Swifties.doc Uploaded by : nera at rconnect.com Description : a fun play on HP quotes You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Tom%20Swifties.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nera at rconnect.com From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Tue Mar 6 20:49:51 2001 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 6 Mar 2001 20:49:51 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter Message-ID: <983911791.3344.45420.jd@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HPFGU-OTChatter group. File : /Club_Humor/Tom Swifties.doc Uploaded by : nera at rconnect.com Description : a fun play on HP quotes You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/Tom%20Swifties.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nera at rconnect.com From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Tue Mar 6 20:58:51 2001 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 6 Mar 2001 20:58:51 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter Message-ID: <983912331.1058.41354.f5@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HPFGU-OTChatter group. File : /Club_Humor/Tom Swifties.txt Uploaded by : nera at rconnect.com Description : a fun play on HP quotes You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/Tom%20Swifties.txt To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nera at rconnect.com From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 6 21:20:46 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:20:46 -0700 Subject: Not Loony, But Invisible! Message-ID: Remember that "What kind of dog are you" test? Well, today I took one to find out "how loony I am" ... I mean, I AM SISTER MARY LUNATIC, after all, but according to the test I'm very well controlled and no one can really tell that I'm loony. Hmmm On the other hand, I took the "What's Your Superpower" and discovered that mine is INVISIBILITY! YAY!! I don't even need a Cloak... I can disappear from other people's notice with no effort at all. Of course, this makes it difficult to get served in restaurants. http://www.emode.com/ - find out your True Color, Your Superpower, Are You Evil, and what kind of Party Animal you are.... SML (As if we needed more things to do) ============================================== "Very well," said Madame Maxime, bowing slightly. "Will you please inform zis 'Agrid zat ze 'orses drink only single-malt whiskey?" --Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ============================================== From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 6 21:36:40 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:36:40 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter and finally fixed .. sorry References: <983912331.1058.41354.f5@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <002001c0a685$88dcb240$2914a3d1@doreen> This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HPFGU-OTChatter group. GEESH!! I finally got it figured out ... I had to delete it and rework it a few times ... sorry if anyone tried to read the gobbledy-gook during my editing trials. I think it is readable now. I had a few Tom Swifties that I do not have the names of the creators added to them. Claim them if they are yours or if you know whose they are. Just email me with the TS and the author at nera at rconnect.com Doreen_can ya tell I'm from_Iowa From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 6 21:48:35 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:48:35 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Another Swiftie Do these TS belong to you? References: <983fo8+vsth@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <003601c0a687$32f3ad00$2914a3d1@doreen> Doreen - you should be able to upload your list into the Files area of this Yahoo-Group easily. Jim Flanagan Jim-- I don't know about the "easy" part. Here are the TS with no names attached. Anyone claim them? Doreen 18) "Lupin showed me how to take care of Dementors," Harry said, patronizingly. 19) "My parents wanted to use muggle dentistry to fix my teeth," Hermione said, bracingly. 20) "I'm not speaking to you!" Ron said, silently. 21) "All Griffindors line up over here for your Ritalin!" Madam Pomfrey ADDed, attentively. 22) "Drop your wands!" Moody ordered, disarmingly. 23) "Hi! We're Fred and George Weasley," the twins said, duplicitously. From simon at branford.inbox.as Tue Mar 6 22:08:55 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:08:55 -0000 Subject: food and books In-Reply-To: <983911689.2538.66463.l6@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Simon wrote: "A miniature version of me. That does sound scary. Everyone will be running for cover! Many say that one of me is quite enough (and often too much!)" and continued: "Even when cooking cakes I do not make a great effort to be overly accurate. For most things it is simply not needed." Ben: "One of Simon is definitely not enough, as he can't be in Oxford to finish his degree and be here to cook for / with me. The chocolate cake, is, incidentally, to die for (or of, as you may be skewered by a splinter of solid flying chocolate, if you use too much force when cutting through the half-inch thick topping). The point of this post though, is to find out what to do with some leftover coconut milk (having made a curry, and some chocolate sauce for dipping fruit in) and also what to do with two baby avocados (which really ought to be worded better...) Anyway, as you're all capable of chatting for days about food, I guessed someone might have an idea... Had chocolate cake last week. It is amazing how many people visit when I have some to be eaten. I am not sure I would cope if I were two people. I would never know what the other one of me was up to. Having said that I am not sure I know what this me is up to! Guess you may have solved the food problem by now. Mix the avocados and some garlic and some other ingredients I have forgotten about. Serve with salad and bread. With coconut milk as salad dressing. Simon: "Children's library a dream job? It depends on what aged kids you get...that is spoken from experience of people trying to get me to read when I was a teenager, I still have not managed to complete my GCSE set texts." Ben: "Strange boy, personally I liked GCSE English, got to read all I liked and listen to stuff too. Hmmm reading aloud "that scottish play" wasn't exactly the highlight though - I was cast as Lady Macbeth..." Type cast? I never saw the point of reading when I was younger. Now it is obvious. It is for work avoidance! Simon, quoting GoF: "whizzing excitedly around the room like a loose firework." Ben: "Somebody has been feeding him too much again. Be careful of overdoing the sugar." Had chocolate gateaux for pudding this evening. Can't say that Clive's roast was up to much though. Think he has got bored with this cooking lark (reference that only Ben will understand and I cannot be bothered to explain - take it as dinner weren't too good but pudding was)! Pigwidgeon -- "... a minute owl, small enough to fit into the palm of his hand, whizzing excitedly around the room like a loose firework." "Oh, look at the weeny owl! Isn't he cute?" Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by Jo Rowling -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 6 22:30:21 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:30:21 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Another Swiftie ... what to do with list of Swifites? References: <983fo8+vsth@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA564FD.80FBE6F5@texas.net> Jim Flanagan wrote: > "I got to visit Viktor in Bulgaria for three weeks last summer... It > was wonderful!" said Hermione, expectantly. For SHAME! It is to blush. Not to mention the incredible achievement of uniting the Harry/Hermione and Ron/Hermione groups, if only to hunt you down... --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at walton.to Tue Mar 6 22:50:51 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:50:51 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: "Tom Swifties" (a few more) In-Reply-To: <983f46+skl8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Hope these aren't repeats... "I've read ALL the Harry Potter books," said John literally. "I really do like Celine Dion," said John, dragging out a dress. "I'm so happy! Harry and Draco are getting married!" Ron gaily cried. "What's this piece of wood up my nose?" the Troll asked snottily. "A Pensieve, Harry, analyses one particular point in time," said Dumbledore, momentously. "I think I tried one too many Cheering Charms," Hermione said ODiously. ::racks brains:: --John == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 22:57:48 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:57:48 -0000 Subject: Hermione Swifty In-Reply-To: <3AA564FD.80FBE6F5@texas.net> Message-ID: <983q1c+ka62@eGroups.com> Jim wrote: > > "I got to visit Viktor in Bulgaria for three weeks last summer... It > > was wonderful!" said Hermione, expectantly. Amanda wrote: >For SHAME! It is to blush. Not to mention the incredible achievement of > uniting the Harry/Hermione and Ron/Hermione groups, if only to hunt you > down... AND the Hermione Is Way Too Good At Magic To Make An Inefficient Contraceptive Charm group. Amy Z From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 23:04:08 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:04:08 -0000 Subject: the Evil Test Message-ID: <983qd8+r8kv@eGroups.com> You guys who are meeting me in London should be TERRIFIED! Look at my results from the Evil Test (www.emode.com) Yup, you're definitely very evil. Hell is holding a little room with your name on it. (Not that there's anything wrong with that. Lots of successful people have been evil: Donald Trump, Montgomery Burns, Martha Stewart.) You find others' pain funny. So what? You're a sneaky backstabber, luring your prey close, then striking like a vulture. But a cute, cuddly, appearances-can-be-deceiving vulture. Often, the snake lurking inside you will put your evilness to work in the bedroom solely for your own amusement. But we all have our faults, right? So if you want to change your ways, try to think about how you would feel if someone did to you what you do to the rest of the world. Or don't. Whatever. Evil is great ??" just don't kill anyone with your mind. Keep reading for more evil details! Skipping the sexual evilness - that's Too Much Information. I'm also Passively evil, if that makes you feel better. Ooo hoo ??" you're one evil muther. Your heart is blacker than Darth Vader's helmet. For goodness' sake, next time think about that old lady's feelings before you push her down the escalator. And, really ??" you know as well as anyone that dropping kitties out the window to see if they can land on their feet is just an excuse to act evil. Yes, it's all part of being a free spirit who doesn't answer to anyone. Right or wrong, it's a fun way to live. But be careful ??" it all comes full-circle in the end. Heather M., Lord Voldemort's New Master From john at walton.to Tue Mar 6 23:22:11 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:22:11 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: "Tom Swifties" (a few more) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh dear...see John's brain leak out through the ears... "It's not red, it's auburn," Ron said gingerly to his younger sister. "Now, open your books," said Professor Flitwick shortly. "What have you done to me?!" Aunt Marge screamed inflatedly. "You're not my father!" Harry yelled illegitimately to James. "It's not MY fault I'm clever," Hermione said smartly to Ron. "These Chocolate Frogs are great," Harry said candidly. "Advanced Vampirical Protection devices are often Christian in origin," Hermione said crossly. "Oh, no, somebody's killing all the thespians around here!" Lavender said didactically. "Whew, this Stilton is a bit smelly," Ron said maturely. "They don't do decapitations like they used to," Nearly-Headless Nick said sharply to MacNair. "Modern witchcraft is a *form* of Paganism," Harry said wiccedly. "Er, wee, juh par luh frogsay tray bean," Hagrid said fluently. "Guess I forgot that Time-Turner again," Hermione said belatedly. NAUGHTINESS WARNING...LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU'RE SQUEAMISH "You're such a shit, Draco," Harry said effluently, "but what's that smell?" "You're such a cunning linguist, Hagrid," Madame Maxime said happily. (okay, not quite a TS...) "Hey, does that girl with the flat chest have a lisp or what?" Harry asked breathlessly. "Hey, guess, what? I'm an animagus, and I'm a dog when I transform," said Cho bitchily. "No, Ron, you can't go out with a first-year," Harry said immaturely. "Mmmph-mmmmm," Hermione inflatedly (in-fellated-ly...) said from under Harry's desk. And one I can't BELIEVE nobody got... "Wow, I've got a great godfather," said Harry seriously. Oh dear. I can tell I'm going to be thinking of these aaaaaallllllll night. --John From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 6 23:30:42 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:30:42 -0000 Subject: Smalahove Message-ID: <983rv2+c7e4@eGroups.com> I posted this over at the HP4GUFoodGroup, but it got little response (possibly as a result of the low numebr of members: 13). I just had to share one of the delicacies my country has to offer (per suggestion of Doreen's, I have introduced a small change): SMALAHOVE The name stems from the elderly Norwegian noun "smal" or "smale", which mean sheep, and the noun "hove", which is a local variation of the word head. The principal ingredient of the dish should thus be apparent to all. The dish is prepared as follows: Pick a healthy-looking Scrapie-free sheep. Cut off all the wool (carefully; professional help can be hired in most circumstances) - save for later, and learn how to knit. Cut the head off said sheep. Scorch the remaining wool off the head, while at the same time grilling the skin to a nice, golden crisp. Take care not to scorch the skin, however. Automated machines are available that perform this task. Wash the head in a washingmachine. Chop the head (longitudinally) in two peaces. Remove brain and brainstem, and clean the nose. Wash the head-halves in a washingmachine. Boil the headhalves for six hours. Serv with 'taters, stewed Swedes (Danes if Swedes are out of season ;-) ) and Akevitt. Lots of Akevitt. Connoiseurs know not to eat the cartilage of the ear and the black part of the eye. All of the above (sans the part about stewed Danes) is true. From lj2d30 at gateway.net Wed Mar 7 00:12:04 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 00:12:04 -0000 Subject: Gaslight (was SB Sanity & Gas Marks) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <983uck+m83r@eGroups.com> > Simon: "There I am reading the messages and I notice that a lot have SB's sanity in the subject line. I started to get worried that people where trying to call me sane, but relaxed when I opened one and realised that they in fact were talking about Sirius. I can go and rest in peace knowing that I am in fact insane (not in Seine)." Trina: "Oh, Simon, we were just trying to gaslight you and you caught us. There goes the fun." Simon: Gaslight me? You where trying to set me on fire? _Gaslight_ is an old movie with Cary Grant (I think) & Ingrid Bergman (I'm sure of her) in which Hubby Grant is trying to make Wifey Bergman think she is losing her mind for some diabolical reason or another. I haven't actually seen the whole thing, so details will have to come from another, more reliable, source. So to "gaslight" someone means to make him/her think that sanity is slowly slipping away. I would never want to set you on fire, Simon. Too many fanfics would be deeply affected if they lost such an integral character. Trina (hoping this goes thru this time!) From klaatu at primenet.com Wed Mar 7 00:53:42 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:53:42 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Smalahove In-Reply-To: <983rv2+c7e4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: My response is awed silence, mouth hanging open while flies buzz in and out. Gawd! SML -----Original Message----- From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no [mailto:pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:31 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Smalahove I posted this over at the HP4GUFoodGroup, but it got little response (possibly as a result of the low numebr of members: 13). I just had to share one of the delicacies my country has to offer (per suggestion of Doreen's, I have introduced a small change): SMALAHOVE The name stems from the elderly Norwegian noun "smal" or "smale", which mean sheep, and the noun "hove", which is a local variation of the word head. The principal ingredient of the dish should thus be apparent to all. The dish is prepared as follows: Pick a healthy-looking Scrapie-free sheep. Cut off all the wool (carefully; professional help can be hired in most circumstances) - save for later, and learn how to knit. Cut the head off said sheep. Scorch the remaining wool off the head, while at the same time grilling the skin to a nice, golden crisp. Take care not to scorch the skin, however. Automated machines are available that perform this task. Wash the head in a washingmachine. Chop the head (longitudinally) in two peaces. Remove brain and brainstem, and clean the nose. Wash the head-halves in a washingmachine. Boil the headhalves for six hours. Serv with 'taters, stewed Swedes (Danes if Swedes are out of season ;-) ) and Akevitt. Lots of Akevitt. Connoiseurs know not to eat the cartilage of the ear and the black part of the eye. All of the above (sans the part about stewed Danes) is true. From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 01:21:22 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:21:22 +0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] ADMIN: HPforGU Logo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Simon wrote: > The time is upon us we all can vote to make an important decision. Every > man, woman and child (not forgetting the goat, owl or car) has the chance > to vote and decide on the logo that will be used to declare the Harry > Potter for Grown Ups Internet presence. ::Moderating Rock #47 rolls threateningly towards the cute little owl:: The Rock population of HPFGU also wants voting rights. STONE (STOp Neolithic-rock Exclusion), the pro-Rock action committee, is lobbying the Ministry of Magic as we speak for equal rights for Rocks. The public arm of STONE, PEBBLE (PEople for a Bigger and Better Life for Everyrock), is launching a campaign from their new website, www.pebble.org. Please join today and help stop anti-Rock discrimination. Ensure a better future for everyone, both the geologically-enhanced and the geologically-challenged. (This message brought to you by Friends of BOULDER [Building OUr Lives and Developing Every Rock]). From purdymango1 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 02:50:33 2001 From: purdymango1 at yahoo.com (Teek) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 02:50:33 -0000 Subject: Libraries, teen reading, future obsessives, rambling-goodness. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9847lp+drit@eGroups.com> Simon the nutty owl says: > Children's library a dream job? It depends on what aged kids you get. If it > is the little ones and you get to read all the cute children's books to and > with them then yes. The older ones are usually too much trouble to get them > to read (that is spoken from experience of people trying to get me to read > when I was a teenager, I still have not managed to complete my GCSE > set texts). Ahh, fortunately, my job consists of checking out materials, straightening up, and putting books away, between sneaking off for illicit readings of picture books. If the children get too dastardly, I just smile and point them off to the real librarians. I could care less if the kids actually read anything, I just like being around books. I'm a sucker for children's books, but don't deal well with the actual item. The teenagers are in a different, and much less enjoyable section. We have this collection of 7th graders (They're about 13) who come in stoned and make rude comments, insult the elderly, ride scooters and skateboards through the building, attempt to hit on me and fail miserably, etc. =grumble= Though I sympathize. during that age, all I could find to read were Anne McCaffery books, LOTR, and some biography on Harry Houdini, which I must have read several dozen times. Middle school, a time I am not anxious to re-live. no repeat Simon-Sightings, though my plot to hook my friend is going splendedly. He reported back at opening today to check out PoA and GoF, after reading Chamber straight through. Another conquest! Bwa ha ha - Teek From voicelady at mymailstation.com Wed Mar 7 03:01:58 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 6 Mar 2001 19:01:58 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Not Loony, But Invisible! Message-ID: <20010307030158.14601.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From voicelady at mymailstation.com Wed Mar 7 03:02:15 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 6 Mar 2001 19:02:15 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Animal lover here! Message-ID: <20010307030215.14608.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 7 03:01:32 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:01:32 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: [HPforGrownups] ADMIN: HPforGU Logo References: Message-ID: <3AA5A48C.7A77BC58@texas.net> John Walton wrote: > ::Moderating Rock #47 rolls threateningly towards the cute little > owl:: John, what do you do? Do you do anything all day but think of this stuff? --Amanda, casting the first stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From voicelady at mymailstation.com Wed Mar 7 03:13:39 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:13:39 -0000 Subject: Not Loony, But Invisible! In-Reply-To: <20010307030158.14601.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <984913+69qt@eGroups.com> Oh, and I was considered a nutball, too, on the loony quiz! I was the character who would try anything once, just for the heck of it - which is also true! From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 7 03:21:51 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:21:51 -0600 Subject: Want to blow lots of money? Message-ID: <3AA5A94F.BEF4E275@texas.net> Check this out. Anyone feeling rich and frivolous? You have 22 hours.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1412884842 --Amanda, poorer by the minute From pbnesbit at msn.com Wed Mar 7 03:32:37 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:32:37 -0000 Subject: Animal lover here! In-Reply-To: <20010307030215.14608.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <984a4l+quq6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., voicelady at m... wrote: > > Mine was Animal Communication. Which is actually very true. All animals come to me. All of them. Sometimes it's creepy, but I know it's just because it says "I'm a pushover for a pet" written all over my face. Animals know that I like them. And I *did* say that Hagrid was the character that I would want for a friend! > > Jeralyn, the Voicelady > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Oh, obvious," said Granny. "I'll grant you it's > obvious. Trouble is, just because things are obvious > doesn't mean they're true." > Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _____________________________________________________________ > This email message was sent via MailStation(tm) - a trademark > of CIDCO Incorporated. LOL, Jeralyn, so was mine!! It's true for me as well, I'm an animal magnet (dogs, cats, horses, wolves...seriously). Example: we'd been away from Middleton Place for *7 months* & the animals here *still* remembered me. Parker (who wants an owl, so she won't have to depend on the US mail) From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 03:53:22 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:53:22 -0000 Subject: Want to blow lots of money? In-Reply-To: <3AA5A94F.BEF4E275@texas.net> Message-ID: <984bbi+j0mq@eGroups.com> Amanda wrote: "Check this out. Anyone feeling rich and frivolous? You have 22 hours.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1412884842" I want it!!! But seriously folks someone should buy it. So affordable too. It's only (loud choking sound) $6,100 USD!?!?! (only?) Anyway may I ask for that kind of money what the heck is an uncorrected proof copy? Does that mean it is exactly like the orginal manuscript without editor's corrections? And what artwork is it refering to? Scott (who enjoys eBay but rarely bids...) From neilward at dircon.co.uk Wed Mar 7 04:31:43 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 04:31:43 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gaslight (was SB Sanity & Gas Marks) References: <983uck+m83r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <021501c0a6bf$83c89960$e83770c2@c5s910j> Trina said: _Gaslight_ is an old movie with Cary Grant (I think) & Ingrid Bergman (I'm sure of her) in which Hubby Grant is trying to make Wifey Bergman think she is losing her mind for some diabolical reason or another. I haven't actually seen the whole thing, so details will have to come from another, more reliable, source. So to "gaslight" someone means to make him/her think that sanity is slowly slipping away. I actually got that reference first time round and thought it was cool that Americans used 'gaslight' in that context, but perhaps it was just Trina being very cryptic .... There have been several cinematic versions of Gaslight, the one above being the best known, but, arguably, not the best. It was Charles Boyer who played opposite Bergman. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Wed Mar 7 04:36:03 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 04:36:03 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Smalahove References: Message-ID: <021c01c0a6c0$530bfc80$e83770c2@c5s910j> Sister Mary Lunatic said, re Smalahove: <> My mouth is closed as I suppress the urge to vomit. Can I become an ueber-vegetarian?? Neil In case you missed this ... culinary horror: > SMALAHOVE > > The name stems from the elderly Norwegian noun "smal" or "smale", > which mean sheep, and the noun "hove", which is a local variation of > the word head. The principal ingredient of the dish should thus be > apparent to all. > > The dish is prepared as follows: > > Pick a healthy-looking Scrapie-free sheep. > > Cut off all the wool (carefully; professional help can be hired in > most circumstances) - save for later, and learn how to knit. > > Cut the head off said sheep. > > Scorch the remaining wool off the head, while at the same time > grilling the skin to a nice, golden crisp. Take care not to scorch > the skin, however. Automated machines are available that perform > this task. > > Wash the head in a washingmachine. > > Chop the head (longitudinally) in two peaces. > > Remove brain and brainstem, and clean the nose. > > Wash the head-halves in a washingmachine. > > Boil the headhalves for six hours. > > Serv with 'taters, stewed Swedes (Danes if Swedes are out of > season ;-) ) and Akevitt. Lots of Akevitt. Connoiseurs know not to > eat the cartilage of the ear and the black part of the eye. > > All of the above (sans the part about stewed Danes) is true. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 7 09:31:06 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen Rich) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:31:06 -0000 Subject: "Tom Swifties" (a few more) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <984v4q+in6i@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > Oh dear...see John's brain leak out through the ears... And a few from the Iowa faction: "This is the girls bathroom!" shouted Moaning Myrtle loo sely. "Vernon, dear, it's teatime," Petunia said cozily. "Oh, dear! However will I keep an eye on the neighbors from this tiny island?" Petunia asked defenselessly. "You're a parselmouth!" yelled Ron hysterically. "I set a boa constrictor free," explained Harry, zoologically. Forgive me for this one... "He is the headmaster at Hogwarts," Hagrid explained dumbly, but adorably. "It's not as though I really wanted to join the hunt," said Nearly Headless Nick, sinuously. "Gryffindor!" shouted the Sorting Hat, decidedly. "New students," said the Fat Friar, reverently. "No, Mr. Olivander, I don't use the pieces," Hagrid replied wantonly. Doreen_Iowa From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 10:00:42 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:00:42 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: [HPforGrownups] ADMIN: HPforGU Logo In-Reply-To: <3AA5A48C.7A77BC58@texas.net> Message-ID: Amanda Lewanski wrote: > John Walton wrote: > >> ::Moderating Rock #47 rolls threateningly towards the cute little >> owl:: > > > > John, what do you do? Do you do anything all day but think of this stuff? > > --Amanda, casting the first stone ::looks pointedly at Amanda's glass house:: I find that email is the best and least damaging form of procrastination when writing (or rather, trying not to write) essays. Last night was "The Influence Of Cato The Elder On The Romans Of His Day", and let me tell you, eating sand is more enjoyable than writing about Cato. Mental activity -- such as thinking up acronyms and Tom Swifties -- is even more preferable. Hey, I'm a student. We're not *supposed* to work... --John, hoping very much that none of his lecturers are lurking on this list == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From joannec at lisp.com.au Wed Mar 7 09:55:11 2001 From: joannec at lisp.com.au (Joanne Collins) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:55:11 +1100 Subject: Hello... In-Reply-To: <983782666.520.74808.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010307205511.007e2d60@mail.lisp.com.au> Well, I thought I'd join you over here as such interesting topics seem to come up on the parent list, which I love and adore and bow down to the moderators for creating, that don't quite stay on topic. I know it can be difficult to stop an onlist conversation diverting (running a few lists, you discover these things) and it's wonderful to have somewhere to talk about those things. So let the conversations continue (we've already begun). Joanne. From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 7 16:33:06 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:33:06 -0000 Subject: food and books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <985ns2+i4r7@eGroups.com> Simon> Had chocolate cake last week. It is amazing how many people visit when I have some to be eaten. You made a chocolate cake and didn't send me any? How could you? Cruel boy. > Guess you may have solved the food problem by now. Yes, well, sort of. Had tough and soggy onion rings from Burger King... > Simon: With coconut milk as salad dressing. Coconut milk as a salad dressing? I'll just make a vat of chocolate sauce I think... Me: I was cast as Lady Macbeth..." Simon: Type cast? That's not very friendly now is it? :) > Pigwidgeon: Had chocolate gateaux for pudding this evening. Can't say that Clive's roast was up to much though. Think he has got bored with this cooking lark Not that you liked roasts anyway... the brocolli is best avoided, he always had a nasty tendancy to cook it 'til it reached that melt-in- the-mouth consistency... -Ben. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 7 17:45:44 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:45:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Cato (was Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: [HPforGrownups] ADMIN: HPforGU Logo) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, John Walton wrote: > Last night was "The Influence Of Cato The Elder On The Romans Of His > Day", and let me tell you, eating sand is more enjoyable than > writing about Cato. Hey! Cato was not only a wonderful Roman statesman, but his writing is terribly *fun*!! *looks at that last statement and decides she'd better qualify it* Well... *I* think Cato's fun... The de agri cultura is really rather charming, especially the bits about cabbages. I always make my Latin students read that part (modified in difficulty of language to their abilities). Why, the humble cabbage is good for any number of things you might not have realized! F'rinstance, if you boil the cabbage and get cabbage juice, it's very good for ailments of the belly. And the best thing is if you've left the cabbage juice out overnight, outside... but only when it's not raining, of course. Need to reconsecrate your grove? Cato's your man. Plant at the proper times? Ask Cato. (Bees? Well, you'd be better off with Virgil there...) And how can you dislike a guy who advises young men to go to brothels, hmm? :) (Rather that commit adultery, for those who are baffled at that bit o' wisdom.) Cato's also responsible for a number of pithy sententiae, such as "good man, good farmer." Good ol' fashioned family values. *g* And he was opposed to learning Greek... just think, if he'd succeeded, *I* wouldn't have to read Hesiod tonight. (The speech fragments, OTOH, are definitely on the list of works from antiquity that I wish had been lost. And the Origines are not too high on the fun scale, either.) --jen, completely HP content free :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 18:06:16 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:06:16 +0000 Subject: Cato In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jen Faulkner wrote: > Cato's also responsible for a number of pithy sententiae, such as "good > man, good farmer." Good ol' fashioned family values. *g* "Family Values" a la Genghis Khan, sure. The man makes Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Reagan look like Lucy and Desi, fer chrissakes. Maggie may have sunk the Belgrano -- Cato annihilated an entire city-state (Carthage), plowed up all their fields and sowed the ground with salt so they couldn't grow anything! > And he was opposed to learning Greek... just think, if he'd succeeded, > *I* wouldn't have to read Hesiod tonight. "Opposed to learning Greek"? IIRC he wanted to exterminate every Greek on the planet. I'm sure Adolf Hitler had a picture of Cato on his bedside. --John, who's now finished the essay and trying not to forget it all before tomorrow's tutorial... == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 7 18:08:45 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:08:45 -0600 Subject: Cato (was Re: Latin class References: Message-ID: <012601c0a731$cfd43180$5614a3d1@doreen> I always make my Latin students read that part (modified in difficulty of language to their abilities). --jen, completely HP content free :) ahhh Latin class ... I slept through it on occasion. I think the only things I retained from it are "Alia Gallia est divisa in partes tres"... (I would love to have the rest of that) and amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatus, amant. (I would crack up if I did that correctly & completely) Seriously, I retained enough Latin to have helped me immensely in figuring out vocabulary words over the years. I liked the Roman mythology and the people more than I liked learning the language. Doreen, hoping my Latin teacher never reads this. From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 18:13:05 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:13:05 +0000 Subject: Latest batch of John's Tom Smutties...er...Swifties. Message-ID: "What do ethnicity and religion have to do with it?" Draco asked waspishly. "Oh, look, it's the Parachuting Mediwizards," Harry said paradoxically. "I have conquered Rome and all its territory!" You-Know-Who yelled empirically. "This train takes AGES," Ron said inexpressively. "No, there's nobody in this room tonight," said Tom the Leaky Cauldron owner vacantly. "Uh...right," said Goyle unintelligibly. "Eet ees not my fault I am a giant," Madame Maxime said ambiguously. T O M WARNING -- SUPREME SMUTTINESS BELOW -- WARNING S M U T T I E S "Oh no, my right testicle has gone to lightspeed!" shrieked Ron hyperbolically. "Zees 'Agrid, ee eez so *small* down below," Madam Maxime said coquettishly. "Victor's not coming after all," Hermione said anticlimactically. "Hermione, that new Explosive Buttock spell is great," said Ron bombastically. "No, Hermione, it can't be mine," Viktor said inconceivably. "Sorry, Seamus, I'm saving myself," Lavender said impenetrably. From ebonyink at hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 18:19:03 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:19:03 -0000 Subject: Recreation Message-ID: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> I asked about this on the Paradise list, but no one answered... so I thought I'd bring this to the experts. What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a date, or hanging out with friends? Popular pasttimes here include: -dinner and a movie -going to sports bars -nightclubs/dancehalls -casinos/gambling -skating and bowling (I always think of those two together, for some reason) -laser tag (I'll admit, this is really more for families and kids) I'm not talking highbrow events (gallery openings or the opera) or even ticketed events (concerts, major sporting events). I'm talking "this is something I do by default every weekend" types of things. If I was a student at Oxford (or in your home country/hometown) and wanted a break from studying on a Saturday night, what would I do for fun? --Ebony From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 7 18:24:39 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:24:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation References: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA67CE7.69C01B4E@texas.net> Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > If I was a student at Oxford (or in your home country/hometown)and > wanted a break from studying on a Saturday night, what would I do for > fun? Babysit for me so *I* could get out. If I remember the name of that guy who lives here, I'll take him with me, too.... --Amanda, not in England, but very, very too much at home in Texas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 7 18:27:47 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:27:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation In-Reply-To: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010307182747.40890.qmail@web12805.mail.yahoo.com> in a word - drink. possibly have a drink and go to see a movie. maybe skip the movie and just go straight to the pub. then maybe on to a club after time has been called or go and get a curry or a kebab. i'm sure there are people who do much more social things but i'm thinking students on a saturday night. possibly some 'amusing' student venue theme night involving platform shoes, snakebite and the time warp. --- Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote:
I asked about this on the Paradise list, but no one answered...
so I thought I'd bring this to the experts.

What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and
elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a
date, or hanging out with friends?

Popular pasttimes here include:
-dinner and a movie
-going to sports bars
-nightclubs/dancehalls
-casinos/gambling
-skating and bowling (I always think of those two together, for
some reason)
-laser tag (I'll admit, this is really more for families and kids)

I'm not talking highbrow events (gallery openings or the opera) or
even ticketed events (concerts, major sporting events). I'm
talking "this is something I do by default every weekend" types of
things.

If I was a student at Oxford (or in your home country/hometown)
and wanted a break from studying on a Saturday night, what
would I do for fun?

--Ebony
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____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 18:29:17 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:29:17 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation In-Reply-To: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and > elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a > date, or hanging out with friends? Pubs. That's the British past-time. All four of my British flatmates nigh-on live in the pub. Perhaps it's because the drinking age over here (18) ensures that almost everyone at university is of age. Perhaps it's because the nights draw in so quickly. Or because there are only four terrestrial television channels. I dunno :) > Popular pasttimes here include: > -dinner and a movie > -going to sports bars > -nightclubs/dancehalls > -casinos/gambling > -skating and bowling (I always think of those two together, for > some reason) > -laser tag (I'll admit, this is really more for families and kids) Hmm. I can't really talk from my experience, because as a singer, we have really bizarre social lives, tending to have rehearsals, concerts and all that jazz in the evenings instead of doing "normal" studenty things like going out and getting roaring drunk, coming back and being violently ill. Gee, shucks on me for not being a "normal" student... To be honest, I far prefer curling up with a good book or a few Buffy episodes or having a few friends around for dinner and a few bottles of wine to going out to a crowded, smelly, noisy, smoky pub with overpriced drinks and people spilling alcohol everywhere, and being unable to hold a decent conversation. So I tend to be high on the list of dinner party guests/hosts, especially when one of my friends still in a Hall of Residence wants to throw a dinner party -- they come around and use our nice big eat-in kitchen. --John == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Wed Mar 7 18:53:49 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:53:49 -0000 Subject: Cato (was Re: Latin class In-Reply-To: <012601c0a731$cfd43180$5614a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98603t+4b8d@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > ahhh Latin class ... I slept through it on occasion. I think the > only things I retained from it are "Alia Gallia est divisa in > partes tres"... (I would love to have the rest of that) and amo, > amas, amat, amamus, amatus, amant. (I would crack up if I did that > correctly & completely) [snip] Have you read Ludvig Holberg's famous comedy "Erasmus Montanus"? It concerns the simple farmer-son Rasmus Berg, who goes to the university in Copenhagen, and returns home with an attitude and a new name. It is in a way apropos to the above. From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Wed Mar 7 19:38:11 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:38:11 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation References: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <009201c0a73e$31a239a0$d964063e@tmeltcds> > What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and > elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a > date, or hanging out with friends? > > Popular pasttimes here include: > -dinner and a movie > -going to sports bars ??? > -nightclubs/dancehalls > -casinos/gambling Not so much > -skating and bowling (I always think of those two together, for > some reason) Bowling possibly > -laser tag (I'll admit, this is really more for families and kids) Some male stiudents might do it for a laugh > > If I was a student at Oxford (or in your home country/hometown) > and wanted a break from studying on a Saturday night, what > would I do for fun? Mostly movies, going to pubs/clubs anything that involves being in some form of vegetative state on a Saturday night. Me, I always prefer(red) a quiet night in with Casualty ! Michelle From yael_pou at hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 19:59:30 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:59:30 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation References: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> <3AA67CE7.69C01B4E@texas.net> Message-ID: Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: If I was a student at Oxford (or in your home country/hometown)and wanted a break from studying on a Saturday night, what would I do for fun? Amanda wrote: Babysit for me so *I* could get out. If I remember the name of that guy who lives here, I'll take him with me, too.... --Amanda, not in England, but very, very too much at home in Texas Apparently, parenting is the same all over the world. *grimace* On the rare occasions we have a granny-sitter, we do very regular things - Go to movie/theatre/ballet and a restaurant/cafe'. How dull. When we have guests from abroad, we take them to an authentic restaurant. Then we go for a walk in the old streets of Jaffa, closing the evening on the Tel-Aviv beach with some spiced Pita-Bread, small eastern cakes or the local version of bagels. Did i make your eyes pop out? Sorry... yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 19:55:51 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:55:51 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yael said: > When we have guests from abroad, we take them to an authentic restaurant. ::swoons in memory:: D'you know that WONDERFUL little seafood place on the harbor in Jaffa? Talk about the world's best seafood...mmmm... > Then we go for a walk in the old streets of Jaffa, And, I hope, buying some of the fantastic artsy-craftsy things made in Old Jaffa -- my mum has a jewelry boxful of silver-amber necklaces, rings and earrings. > closing the evening on the Tel-Aviv beach with some spiced Pita-Bread, small > eastern cakes or the local version of bagels. Felafel! Felafel! Felafel! Mmmmm... --John, currently in orgiastic memories of the felafel stands on T-A beach...although the ones at Herzliya were better... --John == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == John Walton john at walton.to "Con-ser-va-tive, n. A statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary", 1842-c.1914 == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == | == From yael_pou at hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 20:29:51 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:29:51 +0200 Subject: back to food (was: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation) References: Message-ID: Johm Walton wrote: "::swoons in memory:: D'you know that WONDERFUL little seafood place on the harbor in Jaffa? Talk about the world's best seafood...mmmm..." Which one of the 2000 little seafood places do you mean? Actually, the best seafood i've had was in Rome. Can't remember the name of the place, though... It was in Via Veneto. Johm Walton wrote: "Felafel! Felafel! Felafel! Mmmmm..." --John, currently in orgiastic memories of the felafel stands on T-A beach...although the ones at Herzliya were better..." Yes, that would be part of the authentic dinner. The recriation on the beach would be with something stickier . If you think the best Felafel was in Herzliya, there's only one possible conclusion - you've never had good Felafel. Give me a call next time you're around, i'll make sure you go to the right place that time. :) yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Wed Mar 7 20:38:01 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:38:01 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation References: <985u2n+61gb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <007c01c0a746$95d83de0$353470c2@c5s910j> Ebony said: "What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a date, or hanging out with friends? Popular pasttimes here include: -dinner and a movie -going to sports bars -nightclubs/dancehalls -casinos/gambling -skating and bowling (I always think of those two together, for some reason) -laser tag (I'll admit, this is really more for families and kids)" Here's what I'd do/have done. Leaving aside the more carnal pleasures, these group activities are all a bit obvious (and I often spend the weekend on domestic things, watching TV and sitting in front of the computer): - watch TV or a video - the trashier the better (e.g. Eurovision Song Contest) - listen to records - go clubbing (well, I used to run one - so that wasn't really recreation) - go to a gig - meet up in a pub or bar (perhaps one with a pop quiz) - have meals at each others' houses or in restaurants/cafes - go to the cinema - wander round markets/shops - play board or parlour games (yeah, we do that) - visit the seaside (usually Brighton) - have a picnic/barbecue - have a house party - just 'hang out' and chat Cripes, it sounds dull. Neil From lj2d30 at gateway.net Wed Mar 7 21:36:51 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:36:51 -0000 Subject: SuperPower (was:Not Loony, But Invisible!) In-Reply-To: <20010307030158.14601.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <9869lj+rkdt@eGroups.com> Mine was Time Travel. Do I now feel even more deeply connected to Hermione than ever before? You betcha! Trina of the Sapphire aura (another test I took) From lj2d30 at gateway.net Wed Mar 7 21:43:25 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:43:25 -0000 Subject: Gaslight (was SB Sanity & Gas Marks) In-Reply-To: <021501c0a6bf$83c89960$e83770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <986a1t+2u1l@eGroups.com> > > There have been several cinematic versions of Gaslight, the one above being the best known, but, arguably, not the best. It was Charles Boyer who played opposite Bergman. > > Neil I *thought* maybe Charles Boyer but wasn't sure and Grant stuck out as a possibility, so I took a chance. Obviously another sign one should never second guess gut feelings. Trina From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 21:42:34 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:42:34 +0000 Subject: Interesting Yahoo news Message-ID: Hey yall, Something's going on with Yahoo the company -- perhaps we could all keep eyes peeled for it? The news will be coming out tonight at 10 UK time/5 Eastern US time. ::starts peeling eyes:: --John http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1207000/1207561.stm Shares in Yahoo, the internet giant, have been suspended and the market is bracing itself for a major announcement from the firm. The announcement is expected at 2200 GMT. Ahead of the suspension on Wednesday, Yahoo's share price fell 6.3% to just less than $21. A year ago, one Yahoo share was worth $205. Yahoo cancelled its appearance at the big brokerage house Merrill Lynch's internet conference on Thursday. Merrill analyst Henry Blodget, who used to be very optimistic about internet investments, was critical about the cancellation. In a report, he suggested that the company may be about to offer an early insight into its earnings. Alternatively, Yahoo may be about to announce a restructuring, an intention to buy another company or a decision to enter into a strategic investment, Mr Blodget predicted. Vivendi talk And if none of these announcements is made, perhaps Yahoo will announce a major management change, Mr Blodget wrote in the report. One dealer who had read an Italian newspaper report that French media giant VivendiUniversal was searching for an internet partner seemed convinced that Yahoo was about to be taken over or that the two firms would agree a strategic alliance. In short, it seems nobody quite knows what to expect, but everyone is on the edge of their seats awaiting an announcement. The managing director of Yahoo Europe, Fabiola Arredondo, and the head of its Asian operations, Savio Chow, both resigned recently. The departures were seen as a double blow for Yahoo which is facing a slowdown in the online advertising market, the source of most of its revenues. From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 7 21:49:43 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:49:43 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Interesting Yahoo news References: Message-ID: <00d701c0a750$9127c9a0$6a14a3d1@doreen> I will follow your advice, Doreen said, apealingly. I will keep an eye out, she said cycloptically. (so its not a real adverb..it's not for the list) Doreen, one-eyed in Iowa (hmmmm Eye-oh-wah) Hey yall, Something's going on with Yahoo the company -- perhaps we could all keep eyes peeled for it? The news will be coming out tonight at 10 UK time/5 Eastern US time. ::starts peeling eyes:: --John http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1207000/1207561.stm Shares in Yahoo, the internet giant, have been suspended and the market is bracing itself for a major announcement from the firm. The announcement is expected at 2200 GMT. Ahead of the suspension on Wednesday, Yahoo's share price fell 6.3% to just less than $21. A year ago, one Yahoo share was worth $205. Yahoo cancelled its appearance at the big brokerage house Merrill Lynch's internet conference on Thursday. Merrill analyst Henry Blodget, who used to be very optimistic about internet investments, was critical about the cancellation. In a report, he suggested that the company may be about to offer an early insight into its earnings. Alternatively, Yahoo may be about to announce a restructuring, an intention to buy another company or a decision to enter into a strategic investment, Mr Blodget predicted. Vivendi talk And if none of these announcements is made, perhaps Yahoo will announce a major management change, Mr Blodget wrote in the report. One dealer who had read an Italian newspaper report that French media giant VivendiUniversal was searching for an internet partner seemed convinced that Yahoo was about to be taken over or that the two firms would agree a strategic alliance. In short, it seems nobody quite knows what to expect, but everyone is on the edge of their seats awaiting an announcement. The managing director of Yahoo Europe, Fabiola Arredondo, and the head of its Asian operations, Savio Chow, both resigned recently. The departures were seen as a double blow for Yahoo which is facing a slowdown in the online advertising market, the source of most of its revenues. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From john at walton.to Wed Mar 7 22:26:10 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:26:10 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Interesting Yahoo news In-Reply-To: <00d701c0a750$9127c9a0$6a14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: Here's what happened to Yahoo -- fortunately, it's not as bad for us here at YahGroops as a takeover bid would have been. Phew! At worst we can probably expect to see a few more ads... --John http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1207000/1207934.stm Yahoo earnings hurt by fewer ads Yahoo, the internet giant, has issued earnings predictions for the first quarter of 2001 sharply below what analysts had predicted. "Yahoo now expects first quarter 2001 revenues will be in the range of $170-180m," the company said in a statement. Analysts had forecast revenues of around $232m. The downgrade of its earnings predictions was due to weaker advertising earnings, caused by reduced marketing spend by firms worried about an economic slowdown in the US and elsewhere in the world. Advertising revenue accounts for about 90% of the company's earnings. New chief executive Yahoo also announced that its founder Timothy Koogle will step down from the post as chief executive, though he will remain chairman of the board. This means he will take a step back from the day-to-day control of the business. His replacement has not yet been found and the company will start searching for one right away. Shares suspended Preceding the announcement, Yahoo shares were suspended in early trading on Wednesday. Ahead of the suspension, the company's share price fell 6.3% to just less than $21. A year earlier, one Yahoo share was worth $205. The managing director of Yahoo Europe, Fabiola Arredondo, and the head of its Asian operations, Savio Chow, both resigned recently. The departures were seen as a double blow for Yahoo. From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Wed Mar 7 23:40:33 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:40:33 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation Message-ID: Neil said: Here's what I'd do/have done. Leaving aside the more carnal pleasures, these group activities are all a bit obvious (and I often spend the weekend on domestic things, watching TV and sitting in front of the computer): - watch TV or a video - the trashier the better (e.g. Eurovision Song Contest) - listen to records - go clubbing (well, I used to run one - so that wasn't really recreation) - go to a gig - meet up in a pub or bar (perhaps one with a pop quiz) - have meals at each others' houses or in restaurants/cafes - go to the cinema - wander round markets/shops - play board or parlour games (yeah, we do that) - visit the seaside (usually Brighton) - have a picnic/barbecue - have a house party - just 'hang out' and chat Cripes, it sounds dull. Neil Don't feel bad, Neil. These are exactly the same things we do. And we also play games all the time. We (some friends of mine) have a game night every Saturday, and I think I've played Trivial Pursuit with my husband twice already this week. Mer From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 23:51:51 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:51:51 -0000 Subject: Music Message-ID: <986hin+iv0n@eGroups.com> Taking this off the main group 'cause I'm drifting OT (pats on the back accepted): Hedwig wrote: > Williams doing the soundtrack will be excellent. He's one of the >best theatrical composers, if not THE best, out there. Yikes, and I thought shipping was controversial. I strongly disagree on two counts. One: I usually dislike Williams' compositions. Two: I'm uncomfortable at the term "best" for artists of any kind. You can rank 'em good, bad, and indifferent, and we can all happily argue about who belongs in which category, but to call anyone THE best at anything . . . art is a matter of taste, and the things that make for good art are too varied and complex to allow for a top-ten ranking system. Who's the "best" classical composer ever? Who's the "best" artist of the 20th century? How does one begin to defend a ranking like this? Amy Z From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 00:01:43 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:01:43 -0000 Subject: Recreation / London meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <986i57+2833@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Meredith Wilson wrote: > Neil said: > > Here's what I'd do/have done. Leaving aside the more carnal pleasures, these > group activities are all a bit obvious (and I often spend the weekend on > domestic things, watching TV and sitting in front of the computer): > > - watch TV or a video - the trashier the better (e.g. Eurovision Song > Contest) > - listen to records > - go clubbing (well, I used to run one - so that wasn't really recreation) > - go to a gig > - meet up in a pub or bar (perhaps one with a pop quiz) > - have meals at each others' houses or in restaurants/cafes > - go to the cinema > - wander round markets/shops > - play board or parlour games (yeah, we do that) > - visit the seaside (usually Brighton) > - have a picnic/barbecue > - have a house party > - just 'hang out' and chat > > Cripes, it sounds dull. > > Neil > > > Don't feel bad, Neil. These are exactly the same things we do. And we also > play games all the time. We (some friends of mine) have a game night every > Saturday, and I think I've played Trivial Pursuit with my husband twice > already this week. > > Mer It sounds great! I: read go to bars / pubs with friends go out to eat with hubbie go to hang out downstaits on the porch with my neighbors (this is fun, but it's been too cold) play on the puter. A LOT. Neil: when mer said "trivial pursuit" it put me in mind of the HP board game... wish we were going to be in a place where we could PLAY mine, since I haven't ever gotten to play it (no one to play against!) Heather From purdymango1 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 00:37:23 2001 From: purdymango1 at yahoo.com (Teek) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:37:23 -0000 Subject: Latest batch of John's Tom Smutties...er...Swifties. (avec les autres) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <986k83+79ql@eGroups.com> And a few more. "Just leave me alone, Helga," badgered Salazar Slitherin. "Oh, the ghoul lives up on the very top floor," explained Ron loftily. "Your fireplace is too dusty, Arthur." said Amos Diggory's head, grate-ingly. - wah wah wah waaah. Teek From simon at branford.inbox.as Thu Mar 8 00:41:24 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:41:24 -0000 Subject: Rocks and food In-Reply-To: <983941747.1456.76649.l8@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Simon wrote: "The time is upon us we all can vote to make an important decision. Every man, woman and child (not forgetting the goat, owl or car) has the chance to vote and decide on the logo that will be used to declare the Harry Potter for Grown Ups Internet presence." John: "::Moderating Rock #47 rolls threateningly towards the cute little owl:: The Rock population of HPFGU also wants voting rights. STONE (STOp Neolithic-rock Exclusion), the pro-Rock action committee, is lobbying the Ministry of Magic as we speak for equal rights for Rocks. The public arm of STONE, PEBBLE (PEople for a Bigger and Better Life for Everyrock), is launching a campaign from their new website, www.pebble.org. Please join today and help stop anti-Rock discrimination. Ensure a better future for everyone, both the geologically-enhanced and the geologically-challenged. (This message brought to you by Friends of BOULDER [Building OUr Lives and Developing Every Rock])." Under sections 86 of the Wizarding Code for Discussion Group Voting Practises it clearly states, as you are doubtless aware, that rocks are only eligible to vote if they are in possession of certificate TRKF894c and are accompanied by an appropriately authorized person. Due to this limited voting availability it was, and the need for an officially approved person to be present, it is obviously unwise, due to making the list stretch to 658539 pages if one does so, to list all those eligible to vote. Hence your type, and some others, was not mentioned in the non-exhaustive list of those eligible to vote. This is in keeping with sub section iii of section 65 of the above mentioned code. If you wish to take this matter further then I suggest you get in contact with the Society for Mutually Agreed Selectorial Habits And LiberaL Rules Obviously Conceived by Kaleidoscopic Souls. They will be happy to discuss the WCDGVP's. Amanda: "John, what do you do? Do you do anything all day but think of this stuff?" John: "::looks pointedly at Amanda's glass house:: I find that email is the best and least damaging form of procrastination when writing (or rather, trying not to write) essays. Mental activity -- such as thinking up acronyms and Tom Swifties -- is even more preferable. Hey, I'm a student. We're not *supposed* to work..." Students don't work. It is just not a possible option. Simon: "Had chocolate cake last week. It is amazing how many people visit when I have some to be eaten." Ben: "You made a chocolate cake and didn't send me any? How could you? Cruel boy." Parents made it, and gave it to me when they visited. Pigwidgeon: "Had chocolate gateaux for pudding this evening. Can't say that Clive's roast was up to much though. Think he has got bored with this cooking lark" Ben: "Not that you liked roasts anyway... the brocolli is best avoided, he always had a nasty tendancy to cook it 'til it reached that melt-in-the-mouth consistency..." Cauliflower was undercooked, meat was a little tough and the potatoes were as bad as they always are when I go for roast. And you are right in saying that I do not really like roast, but was hungry and had no food to cook. Did pizzas tonight. Made to perfection, even if I do say so myself. Sainsbury's was being annoying. Apparently they had no mozzarella because of the foot and mouth crisis. Decent explanations for that excuse would be appreciated. I could not find any. Had to then go back to where I had just come from to get the cheese. Annoying - it meant I was wandering around Oxford for 30 minutes when I wanted to sit down and eat lunch. Simon -- "Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body" Ecclesiastes 12:12 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon at branford.inbox.as Thu Mar 8 00:52:47 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:52:47 -0000 Subject: Evenings Message-ID: Eb: "What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a date, or hanging out with friends?" Tonight did pizzas and then talked. This was a group of about 12. Last night was supposedly meant to be spent finishing off my work, but ended up with me replying to large quantities of e-mails that needed answering. The night before was also meant to be spent working, but ended up in the pub talking. Most nights I spend some time chatting to friends. Either in a quiet pub or in one another's rooms, drinking large quantities of tea. Occasionally I watch television, but that is usually only on weekends or early evening. Tonight also was good cos I convinced someone else that they should read HP. It was not too difficult as another if her friends said that she had no choice and had to read them over this holiday. Simon -- "Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain." Arthur Weasley - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by Jo Rowling --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 01:06:58 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:06:58 -0600 Subject: Jewelry from Israel question References: Message-ID: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Yael, you might be able to help me with something; John's comment on jewelry on the recreation post reminded me. I have two pieces of jewelry which say "Made in Israel." One's a ring, one's a pendant. They're silver, but they have the coolest inset. I don't know if it's a stone or what. The top layer is clear, and thick, and the layer beneath it is black, and between the two, so it is set against the black background, is an image in what looks like stamped gold leaf (or very well-tooled thin gold). The ring has a rampant lion, the pendant has a flower. The detail on the gold images is incredible and tiny. ANYway, my question to you is, since you're there and all that, have you seen jewelry like this? Can you tell me anything about it? Because the only material I'm sure of is the silver, I don't know what the black background is or whether the clear layer is a clear stone or a real hard polymer or something. Any help would be great; they're really beautiful. --Amanda' From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 8 01:46:39 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:46:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cato (was Re: Latin class In-Reply-To: <012601c0a731$cfd43180$5614a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Doreen wrote: > ahhh Latin class ... I slept through it on occasion. So have I. :) > amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatus, amant. (I would crack up if I did > that correctly & completely) Pretty close! The next to the last should be amatis. Latin really does stick with you... lifelong treasure, and all that. :) > Seriously, I retained enough Latin to have helped me immensely in > figuring out vocabulary words over the years. I liked the Roman > mythology and the people more than I liked learning the language. Vocabulary is a good reason for high school students to study Latin, as is the mental discipline and logic it can inculcate. Students who've studied Latin generally do better on standardized tests (SATs and so on) than students who've studied other foreign languages; the benefits of understanding the Western tradition *ab origine* (from its origin) are immense. Oops, there I go again... *g* --jen, urging everyone to learn a little Latin :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From rebrown12 at earthlink.net Thu Mar 8 02:34:49 2001 From: rebrown12 at earthlink.net (Ruth Brown) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:34:49 -0500 Subject: Recreation Message-ID: <41200134823449190@earthlink.net> Meredith said: Neil - Don't feel bad, Neil. These are exactly the same things we do. And we also play games all the time. We (some friends of mine) have a game night every Saturday, and I think I've played Trivial Pursuit with my husband twice already this week. Mer I can only say one thing to you, Mer - "TRAWBERRY HORTCAKE?" *grin* *wave* Yeah, Neil - I'm getting married this fall and we are looking forward to quiet evenings playing pool, Playstation, cooking, watching videos and reading books - yeah, and some of that carnal stuff, too. *special smile* We even registered for the Trivial Pursuit Millenium Edition and I play Star Wars Edition Monopoly with Cory and Lisa every time I see them. I love getting the Millenium Falcon! Ruth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 8 02:34:36 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:34:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cato In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, John Walton wrote: > "Family Values" a la Genghis Khan, sure. The man makes Maggie > Thatcher and Ronnie Reagan look like Lucy and Desi, fer chrissakes. > Maggie may have sunk the Belgrano -- Cato annihilated an entire > city-state (Carthage), plowed up all their fields and sowed the > ground with salt so they couldn't grow anything! Now, now, John, be fair. *g* Cato was by all accounts very good to his own family (though his treatment of slaves was callous, to say the least) -- and the destruction of Carthage wasn't *entirely* his fault. Yes, he advocated said destruction (at every possible opportunity, delenda est Carthago *g*), but he was dead at the actual end of the war (146; Cato died, I believe, in 149). The burning to the ground and sowing with salt were on Scipio's initiative, despite his tears; it's not completely fair to blame that on Cato. Cato had what could be considered good reasons for his opposition to Carthage... it would've continued to be a threat to Rome, had it been allowed to continue rebuilding, and it was close (as Cato's display with the fig illustrated). Cato wasn't acting out of an unreasoning desire for war, or a hatred of Carthaginians per se; his hawkish calls for war didn't begin until after he was part of a delegation to Carthage and observed that the city was not as put down as a defeated enemy should be -- they were gathering weapons (for war against another state in North Africa) and resuming (quite profitable) trade. He was acting in accordance with the precept of dejectis parcere, debellare superbos (spare the subdued, but fight completely the proud). (I must say, if Cato were alive now, I wouldn't be able to stand him. Somehow, it's much easier to like a Great Dead White Male of the terribly conservative, almost reactionary, persuasion, when they are 2000 years dead. He probably is quite similar to any number of political figures who(se viewpoints) I abhor. But the cabbages! How could anyone who wrote something so cute be bad, hmm?) > "Opposed to learning Greek"? IIRC he wanted to exterminate every Greek on > the planet. I'm sure Adolf Hitler had a picture of Cato on his bedside. Oh dear, no, I don't think Cato ever went that far. Definitely didn't advocate genocide. (In fact, it was on his (grudging) recommendation that the Achaean hostages were allowed to return home -- this would be the anecdote that he, when asked to speak to the Senate on whether the Achaean hostages should be repatriated, said, "Why should it concern us whether a bunch of old Greeks are buried here or in Greece?" Of course, it mattered a great deal where they were buried, and they weren't *all* on the brink of death or anything.) Supposedly he even went on himself to learn Greek pretty well in his old age, despite his stated distaste for Greek learning, particularly philosophy (Plutarch has any number of nasty things he said about Greek philosophers, particulalry Socrates). I'm sure he believed that the Romans were superior to the Greeks, but that's a far cry from advocating genocide... or having an overarching racial theory. (This will be my last Classics post for the nonce, I promise. Apologies for the *massive* non HP-relatedness.) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 8 04:19:39 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:19:39 -0000 Subject: Gryffins... Message-ID: <98718r+cfr7@eGroups.com> Amanda was writing about Heraldry on the main list and mentioned Gryffins which brought this question to mind and I can't for the life of me remember all of it. I know that there are pictures of Gryffins on the back of some 1 GBP coins. I also remember that there are statues of Gryffins around London when one is entering and exiting The City, especially when entering into Westminster. I can remember that the Gryffin has some connection to London but I can't put my finger on what. Also can you clarify whether the Gryffin statues are surrounding The City or Westminster as I can't remember that either. Scott Who is once again questioning the wonderfully intelligent Brits on the list and is quite afraid for them that some of us Yanks find it easier to ask you guys than to look it up... From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 04:54:12 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:54:12 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffins... References: <98718r+cfr7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA71074.5EFA6C46@texas.net> Scott wrote: > I know that there are pictures of Gryffins on the back of some 1 GBP > coins. I also remember that there are statues of Gryffins around > London when one is entering and exiting The City, especially when > entering into Westminster. I can remember that the Gryffin has some > connection to London but I can't put my finger on what. Also can you > clarify whether the Gryffin statues are surrounding The City or > Westminster as I can't remember that either. Well, are you quite sure they're griffins? Not dragons? Because I looked up some of London's civic heraldry in the book I grabbed from the baby's room, and it says that London once used lions as supporters, but never registered them, and that the dragons they currently use are rank new things, only dating back to the seventeenth century. Imagine! Check out this URL for some of the heraldry of the city livery companies of London. http://www.kwtelecom.com/hmedia/info/livery/index.html Back to my book--no griffins mentioned, but it was just a quick scan. The arms of the city of Westminster are borne as a quartering by the Duke thereof, but it didn't give a blazon or supporters, just a discussion of the quarters. I can probably find you more stuff later. Unless somebody Over There knows. --Amanda Binns (husband working late, should go to sleep, will be very droopy tomorrow) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Thu Mar 8 05:15:20 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:15:20 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Gryffins... References: <98718r+cfr7@eGroups.com> <3AA71074.5EFA6C46@texas.net> Message-ID: <015501c0a78e$c62238a0$d33670c2@c5s910j> Scott wrote: <> I really ought to know the details of the Duke of Wesminster's arms, as my office is slap bang in the middle of Westminster, but I don't. I don't recall the reason for any Gryffins (or Gryphons), but that sounds interesting... As for the coins, there are lions on the back of several British coins; the lion being a national symbol for Britain (the rose being for England). There's are some with Britannia herself and some with the coat of arms of Britain, featuring the lion and the unicorn. Other coins feature a dragon (a really nice one) or a leek or Prince of Wales feathers (for Wales), a thistle (for Scotland), various weird things (for the EU). Just rummaging though my change, I can also see an oak tree on one - and the phrase "British Oak" springs into my head... Neil (not really displaying great intelligence - just staring at loose change) ________________________________________ Flying_Ford_Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From yael_pou at hotmail.com Thu Mar 8 08:44:53 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:44:53 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Message-ID: Amanda, Those jewels sound magnificent. I don't recall ever seeing anything like it, but it might have something to do with the fact i don't usually look at jewellery. Do you have any idea where they were bought? Geographic location could mean a lot, and i could make some further inquiries. Do you happen to have a clear photograph of either? Besides the ordinary jewellers, there are a few centres for jewellery, which differ dramatically in styles. Not being an expert, and without looking at these jewels, they sound of Christian origins, the kind that is sold to pilgrims, but i really can't be sure. Sorry i couldn't be of more help, yael ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 3:06 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question Yael, you might be able to help me with something; John's comment on jewelry on the recreation post reminded me. I have two pieces of jewelry which say "Made in Israel." One's a ring, one's a pendant. They're silver, but they have the coolest inset. I don't know if it's a stone or what. The top layer is clear, and thick, and the layer beneath it is black, and between the two, so it is set against the black background, is an image in what looks like stamped gold leaf (or very well-tooled thin gold). The ring has a rampant lion, the pendant has a flower. The detail on the gold images is incredible and tiny. ANYway, my question to you is, since you're there and all that, have you seen jewelry like this? Can you tell me anything about it? Because the only material I'm sure of is the silver, I don't know what the black background is or whether the clear layer is a clear stone or a real hard polymer or something. Any help would be great; they're really beautiful. --Amanda' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 8 08:46:04 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:46:04 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cato (was Re: Latin class References: Message-ID: <008001c0a7ac$367dc700$1714a3d1@doreen> > ahhh Latin class ... I slept through it on occasion. So have I. :) Now, that is funny!! Oops, there I go again... *g* --jen, urging everyone to learn a little Latin :) Darn! I was so hoping that you had included the All Gaul is divided paragraph. I had to memorize that sucker! How about emailing it to me, so as not to bore the others, she begged, conjugately. Doreen From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 8 11:54:56 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:54:56 -0000 Subject: Food and Foot and Mouth (was Re: Rocks and food) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <987rug+112vd@eGroups.com> > > > Simon: "Had chocolate cake last week. It is amazing how many people visit > when I have some to be eaten." > Ben: "You made a chocolate cake and didn't send me any? How could you? > Cruel boy." > > Parents made it, and gave it to me when they visited. > Ah well, I couldn't have had any anyhow... > > Did pizzas tonight. Made to perfection, even if I do say so myself. The scone base ones are the best, though Meg's potato pizzas were good too. > Sainsbury's was being annoying. Apparently they had no mozzarella because of the foot and mouth crisis. Decent explanations for that excuse would be appreciated. I could not find any. Had to then go back to where I had just come from to get the cheese. Annoying - it meant I was wandering around Oxford for 30 minutes when I wanted to sit down and eat lunch. > A friend of mine was complaining that due to this foot and mouth (FMD) the shops had stopped selling all food, even vegetarian stuff. It's more due to regulation than sense really, you cannot import or move around the country meat or meat products, milk or milk products (subject to article 32 of a hurridly scanned fax and other documents that took me over my mail quota). I think if you have a permit you can move a limited amount of animals/products around. Anyway, all of this means that getting cheese may've been difficult, and if you had sent some chocolate cake it should've got stopped at customs :( -Ben. From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 8 11:59:01 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:59:01 -0000 Subject: Evenings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <987s65+jlnc@eGroups.com> > Eb: "What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a date, or hanging out > with friends?" > Simon: Most nights I spend some time chatting to friends. Either in a quiet pub or in one another's rooms, drinking large quantities of tea. > We used to play penny poker as well, which was a good excuse to drink, listen to music and chat, and only cost about a pound for the whole night (empty rooms below and beside me, and a new stereo, yay) Alternatively you can go to chapel, but come out for a cup of tea when the sermon starts... ;) -Ben. From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 13:10:26 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:10:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Message-ID: <3AA784C2.9D0CFED1@texas.net> yael oren wrote: > Those jewels sound magnificent. I don't recall ever seeing anything > like it, but it might have something to do with the fact i don't > usually look at jewellery. Do you have any idea where they were > bought? > > THis is me, I'm caught in your format. The ring was from a friend of > mine, given as a "remember me" from high school; he went on vacation > to Israel and got it there. The pendant I found at one of those little > craft fair things they have at colleges, at Texas A&M, at a vendor > selling all sorts of odds & ends; I bought it because it looked like > the ring. > > Geographic location could mean a lot, and i could make some further > inquiries. Do you happen to have a clear photograph of either? > > Me again; no, but I'll try to at least scan them so you can see. > That'll give you an idea. Probably today or tomorrow; this is a speech > therapy day for my son, so I'm running around. > > --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 13:14:01 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:14:01 -0600 Subject: Another food question for the ignorant Texan Message-ID: <3AA78599.DF034AE8@texas.net> What is the difference between a scone and a crumpet? Do crumpets edge into being Brit biscuits, US cookies? --Amanda, confusedly From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 8 15:00:18 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:00:18 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> <3AA784C2.9D0CFED1@texas.net> Message-ID: <002e01c0a7e0$7e3cca80$5414a3d1@doreen> THis is me, I'm caught in your format. What does this mean? Someone else complained that they were caught in my format in a previous letter. Iguess I just dont get it. Can someone explain just what that means... to be caught in someone else's format? I would really appreciate the information. Hugs Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 8 15:14:51 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:14:51 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Another food question for the ignorant Texan References: <3AA78599.DF034AE8@texas.net> Message-ID: <004701c0a7e2$87d1e060$5414a3d1@doreen> What is the difference between a scone and a crumpet? Do crumpets edge into being Brit biscuits, US cookies? --Amanda, confusedly This page, short & sweet, just lists some common English to British words. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/2284/ This page, however, is more what you are looking for. http://www.effingpot.com/ It contains some VERY humorous explanations... and even has some funny cartoons to illustrate its points. "Crumpet - One of the oldest traditions in English foody fads is the crumpet. A cratered flat cake. Toasted and covered in butter, so that it drips into the holes, the crumpet is enjoyed at tea on a Sunday, during the winter. It is about the size and shape of an English muffin (itself recently introduced to the UK and unheard of by most Brits!). Crumpet also has another meaning. Men might refer to women as a bit of crumpet, or they might fancy some crumpet tonight. You probably get the drift!" "Scones - These look like your biscuits but must ONLY be eaten with clotted cream and strawberry jam. If you are ever lucky enough to encounter real scones (with or without currants), in England or on a British Airways flight, cut the scone in half and spread the jam on each half, top it off with the cream and enjoy it WITH a cup of tea. No other method is permitted or forgivable. Most arrests of American tourists are for eating Scones the wrong way!" "Biscuit - Cookie in America. Though the large home-made chocolate chip type things would also be referred to as cookies in England. 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URL: From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 8 16:01:18 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:01:18 -0600 Subject: some Brit expressions found in HP Message-ID: <008a01c0a7e9$0476ffa0$5414a3d1@doreen> These and many more, would have been quite useful while reading HP ... and I will have it handy when I get my British editions. All right? - This is used a lot around London and the south to mean, "Hello, how are you"? You would say it to a complete stranger or someone you knew. The normal response would be for them to say "All right"? back to you. It is said as a question. Sometimes it might get expanded to "all right mate"? Mostly used by blue collar workers but also common among younger people. Hagrid is always saying, "All right, Harry?" Bung - To bung something means to throw it. For example a street trader might bung something in for free if you pay cash right now! Or you could say "bung my car keys over, mate". Filch - To filch is to steal or pilfer. The origin is apparently unknown (wow.. right there, obvious as heck and I never gave it any thought... I guess I enjoyed his character too much to attach any meaning to his name) Gobsmacked - Amazed. Your gob is your mouth and if you smack your gob, it would be out of amazement. There are just way too many of these at: http://www.effingpot.com/index.html I do have to include this one, though.. (When I read it, I thought of, "Be quiet so as not to knock up the cat." ... in USA they frown on that) Knock up - This means to wake someone up. Although it seems to have an altogether different meaning in the USA! At one time, in England, a chap was employed to go round the streets to wake the workers up in time to get to work. He knew where everyone lived and tapped on the bedroom windows with a long stick, and was known as a "knocker up". He also turned off the gas street lights on his rounds. Another meaning of this phrase, that is more common these days, is to make something out of odds and ends. For example my Dad knocked up a tree house for us from some planks of wood he had in the garage, or you might knock up a meal from whatever you have hanging around in the fridge. Doreen, who loves British expressions ... does that make me an Anglophile? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naama_gat at hotmail.com Thu Mar 8 16:41:45 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:41:45 -0000 Subject: Recreation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <988co9+b615@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > > > closing the evening on the Tel-Aviv beach with some spiced Pita-Bread, small > > eastern cakes or the local version of bagels. > > Felafel! Felafel! Felafel! Mmmmm... > > --John, currently in orgiastic memories of the felafel stands on T-A > beach...although the ones at Herzliya were better... > *Anybody* who lives in Jerusalem can tell you that the *best* Felafel is found here and only here!! The old city is not a nice place to visit now but that's where you find the best Felafel, Humus (is that how you spell it?), Kenafe (cake with goat cheese!), etc. It's a very Jerusalem thing to be fervently loyal to one favorite Felafe stand and people will argue endlessly on the subject. Naama From john at walton.to Thu Mar 8 17:35:58 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:35:58 +0000 Subject: Holy Land Felafel & other food (was: Re: Recreation) In-Reply-To: <988co9+b615@eGroups.com> Message-ID: naama_gat at hotmail.com wrote: > *Anybody* who lives in Jerusalem can tell you that the *best* Felafel > is found here and only here!! The old city is not a nice place to > visit now but that's where you find the best Felafel, Humus (is that > how you spell it?), Kenafe (cake with goat cheese!), etc. > It's a very Jerusalem thing to be fervently loyal to one favorite > Felafe stand and people will argue endlessly on the subject. I hate to disagree with you there, Naama, but the best place to get it is in the Seven Trees restaurant in Jericho (it's painted fluorescent pink and orange, with vivid green tables), where they make it fresh and fry it right before your eyes. Of course, if getting to Jericho is a problem, there're some great places opposite the Damascus Gate and leading up Salah-e-din Street, although one should always avoid the shawarma unless having taken Kaopectate beforehand. The best thing about the Old City IM ever so HO is those little honey ball sweets. Serious "mmmmmmmm". Oh, and did I mention that saffron is about $10 a POUND? When we came back to the states we shipped about five pounds of saffron back with us. That *alone* paid for the new house! (kidding, kidding...) Medicinal-Hazedly, --John ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 8 17:39:56 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:39:56 -0000 Subject: some Brit expressions found in HP In-Reply-To: <008a01c0a7e9$0476ffa0$5414a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <988g5c+tg2l@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > These and many more, would have been quite useful while reading HP ... and I will have it handy when I get my British editions. > > All right? - This is used a lot around London and the south to mean, "Hello, how are you"? You would say it to a complete stranger or someone you knew. The normal response would be for them to say "All right"? back to you. It is said as a question. Sometimes it might get expanded to "all right mate"? Mostly used by blue collar workers but also common among younger people. > > Hagrid is always saying, "All right, Harry?" So's Colin Creevy. (Snip) > > Filch - To filch is to steal or pilfer. The origin is apparently unknown (wow.. right there, obvious as heck and I never gave it any thought... I guess I enjoyed his character too much to attach any meaning to his name) What a *perfect* name for the character!! Jo rivals Dickens in creating descriptive names for many of her characters. I love it! > > > There are just way too many of these at: http://www.effingpot.com/index.html > > I do have to include this one, though.. (When I read it, I thought of, "Be quiet so as not to knock up the cat." ... in USA they frown on that) > > Knock up - This means to wake someone up. Although it seems to have an altogether different meaning in the USA! At one time, in England, a chap was employed to go round the streets to wake the workers up in time to get to work. He knew where everyone lived and tapped on the bedroom windows with a long stick, and was known as a "knocker up". He also turned off the gas street lights on his rounds. Another meaning of this phrase, that is more common these days, is to make something out of odds and ends. For example my Dad knocked up a tree house for us from some planks of wood he had in the garage, or you might knock up a meal from whatever you have hanging around in the fridge. And if you're from the US & you speak British English as your first language, you *really, really* have to be careful about this one. Gets either one of two reactions: total incomprehension or (at least among us older folks who know what US knocked up means) a swift kick in the...portion of the anatomy left to your imagination > > Doreen, who loves British expressions ... does that make me an Anglophile? It's a good start! Just throw some in a conversation, drool over pictures/descriptions, subscribe to every British magazine you can afford, and tell yourself I *will* get to Britain before I get too old to enjoy it & you're an Anglophile Parker (who is *damn sure* she was born in the wrong country) From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 8 19:57:30 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:57:30 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: some Brit expressions found in HP References: <988g5c+tg2l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c0a80a$0354c3c0$5414a3d1@doreen> Hagrid is always saying, "All right, Harry?" So's Colin Creevy. Yes, I forgot about him .... I really need to get off this merry-go-round of list letters and get back to my re-re-reads. (or my listies for Neil & Steve before I get canned) (Snip) > > Filch - To filch is to steal or pilfer. The origin is apparently unknown (wow.. right there, obvious as heck and I never gave it any thought... I guess I enjoyed his character too much to attach any meaning to his name) What a *perfect* name for the character!! Jo rivals Dickens in creating descriptive names for many of her characters. I love it! Just one more reason why her books are so entertaining. I am an avid fan of plays on words, satire, etc. Hence my great interest in the Tom Swifties. They are the best ... and we have almost 100 now. I am starting a new list file, influenced totally by John Walton... Tom Smutties. That way, people can choose whether or not to view them. I hate censorship in any form. > I do have to include this one, though.. (When I read it, I thought of, "Be quiet so as not to knock up the cat." ... in USA they frown on that) > > Doreen, who loves British expressions ... does that make me an Anglophile? It's a good start! Just throw some in a conversation, drool over pictures/descriptions, subscribe to every British magazine you can afford, and tell yourself I *will* get to Britain before I get too old to enjoy it & you're an Anglophile Parker (who is *damn sure* she was born in the wrong country) How about the fact that I had Spotted Dick for dessert the other night? Doreen From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Thu Mar 8 20:12:50 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:12:50 -0000 Subject: Jewelry from Israel question In-Reply-To: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Message-ID: <988p42+co3g@eGroups.com> Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Yael, you might be able to help me with something; John's comment on > jewelry on the recreation post reminded me. I have two pieces of jewelry > which say "Made in Israel." One's a ring, one's a pendant. They're > silver, but they have the coolest inset. I don't know if it's a stone or > what. The top layer is clear, and thick, and the layer beneath it is > black, and between the two, so it is set against the black background, > is an image in what looks like stamped gold leaf (or very well-tooled > thin gold). The ring has a rampant lion, the pendant has a flower. The > detail on the gold images is incredible and tiny. > > ANYway, my question to you is, since you're there and all that, have you > seen jewelry like this? Can you tell me anything about it? Because the > only material I'm sure of is the silver, I don't know what the black > background is or whether the clear layer is a clear stone or a real hard > polymer or something. Any help would be great; they're really beautiful. > I know what you're talking about because I've seen some jewelry like that. I can't remember what the technique is called...My mind is stuck on "damascene" right now and I know that's not it... :-(Milz (taking a chocolate break to clear my mind) From simon at branford.inbox.as Thu Mar 8 20:46:51 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:46:51 -0000 Subject: FW: [HPforGrownups] Re: A book-banning giggle, this time with site included... Message-ID: I thought moving group was probably a good idea. >From http://www.exposingsatanism.org/harrypotter.htm: "The scramble to get the books is not just for children. Just as many adults are amused and are absorbing the content of these books. And what is sickening, Christians, or so-called Christians, are part of the fan club. I knew nothing of Harry Potter until mail started coming in asking if it was ok for teachers in Christian schools to be reading children books about mythology and witchcraft!!!! Did you read that correctly? In Christian schools!!!!!" I think a Terry Pratchett quote, from Maskerade, is very appropriate here (this is roughly correct, but may be slightly wrong). "5 exclamation marks. A sure sign of someone who wears their underpants on their head." Simon -- Dominus Illuminatio Mea ... "The Lord is my light, and my salvation; whom shall I fear?" Psalm 27 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Thu Mar 8 21:06:01 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:06:01 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Recreation / London meeting Message-ID: Neil: when mer said "trivial pursuit" it put me in mind of the HP board game... wish we were going to be in a place where we could PLAY mine, since I haven't ever gotten to play it (no one to play against!) Heather Ooh, wish I'd be there to play! Mer From aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org Thu Mar 8 21:18:38 2001 From: aviationoutreachcoord at museumofflight.org (Meredith Wilson) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:18:38 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] RE: Recreation Message-ID: Ruth Said: I can only say one thing to you, Mer - "TRAWBERRY HORTCAKE?" *grin* *wave* Yeah, Neil - I'm getting married this fall and we are looking forward to quiet evenings playing pool, Playstation, cooking, watching videos and reading books - yeah, and some of that carnal stuff, too. *special smile* We even registered for the Trivial Pursuit Millenium Edition and I play Star Wars Edition Monopoly with Cory and Lisa every time I see them. I love getting the Millenium Falcon! Ruth ROTFLMAO! Oh boy... board game memories coming back to haunt me years later... *waves back to Ruth* The Trivial Pursuit Millenium Edition is what we've been playing. I prefer the original, truth be told, but this one's pretty good, too. I had a record fast game the other night. We play to win you have to answer 4 of the 6 questions on the card drawn. I made it around, got all my pie-pieces and back to the center within 45 minutes. I actually won on my second try in the center because I stupidly answered my 4th question. The question was something like "what part of Larry King's fashion look is he famous for?" Well, I yell out his hair before I realize I'm thinking of DON King... *shakes her head* we laughed at that one. If anyone doesn't know who Don King is, or Larry King for that matter, this won't be so funny, but mixing the two could be scary. Mer From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 8 22:43:42 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:43:42 -0700 Subject: OT: Cat haikus Message-ID: These were posted to another list. Cat lovers (and cat haters) will get a chuckle: Cat Haikus You never feed me. Perhaps I'll sleep on your face. That will sure show you. You must scratch me there! Yes, above my tail! Behold, elevator butt. The rule for today Touch my tail, I shred your hand. New rule tomorrow. In deep sleep hear sound Cat vomit, hairball somewhere Will find in morning. Grace personified. I leap into the window. I meant to do that. Blur of motion, then Silence, me, a paper bag. What is so funny? The mighty hunter Returns with gifts of plump birds Your foot just squashed one. You're always typing. Well, let's see you ignore me Sitting on your hands. My small cardboard box. You cannot see me it I Can just hide my head. Terrible battle, I fought for hours. Come and See! What's a 'term paper'? Kitty likes plastic Confuses for litter box Don't leave tarp around. Small brave carnivores Kill pine cones and mosquitoes Fear vacuum cleaner. I want to be close to you. Can I fit my head Inside your armpit? Want to go outside. Uh oh! Help! I am outside! Let me back inside! Oh no! My human Has been trapped by newspaper! Cat to the rescue! Humans are so strange. Mine lies in bed and then screams My claws are not that sharp. Cats meow out of angst "Thumbs! If we only had thumbs! We could break so much!" Litter box not here You must have moved it again I'll go in the sink. My humans are snoring now Every room is dark and cold Time for "Cup Hockey". We're almost equals I purr to show I love you Scratch me there again, again. From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 8 22:52:50 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:52:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT: Cat haikus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010308225250.6384.qmail@web12813.mail.yahoo.com> --- Sister Mary Lunatic wrote: In deep sleep hear sound
Cat vomit, hairball somewhere
Will find in morning.
LOL i love this! i'm going home tomorrow to see family. whenever i do the old cat (14 years) remembers loves me and sleeps on my pillow. and then hawks stuff up all night, bless him. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 8 23:02:02 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:02:02 -0000 Subject: OT: Cat haikus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98931a+cs8m@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > These were posted to another list. > Cat lovers (and cat haters) will get a chuckle: > LOL!! One of my favourite T-shirt reads: 'In Egypt, cats were worshipped as deities. Cats *have not* forgotten this' I think you've just given Middleton Place's farm cat (Cato, named btw, for a slave) a new nickname. Elevator Butt. Parker From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 23:23:19 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:23:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: some Brit expressions found in HP References: <988g5c+tg2l@eGroups.com> <00cc01c0a80a$0354c3c0$5414a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3AA81466.B995809C@texas.net> Doreen wrote: > > > Filch - To filch is to steal or pilfer. The origin is apparently > unknown (wow.. right there, obvious as heck and I never gave it any > thought... I guess I enjoyed his character too much to attach any > meaning to his name) > > What a *perfect* name for the character!! Jo rivals Dickens in > creating descriptive names for many of her characters. I love it! But "filch" is not a particularly British usage. It's a very familiar word to most of the Americans I know. I even made reference to it in a different post, when I said that I'd thought the term "filk" was a play on both "folk" and "filch," a witty play since the tunes are, in fact, filched, and they often were originally folk songs treated so. Why did you put this on your Britspeak list? > How about the fact that I had Spotted Dick for dessert the other > night? In some states, it's only illegal if you pay for it, so you're probably clear. But you might want to see your doctor. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 23:26:59 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:26:59 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Jewelry from Israel question References: <988p42+co3g@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA81543.2A95BD44@texas.net> absinthe at mad.scientist.com wrote: > I know what you're talking about because I've seen some jewelry like > that. I can't remember what the technique is called...My mind is stuck > on "damascene" right now and I know that's not it... I think damascening is the multi-layering of steel--high carbon layer (strong but brittle) varied with low-carbon (supple but soft) [I may have those backwards], for the ultimate combination of a flexible, strong blade that will hold an edge. Damascus steel and all that. It could be a jewelry term, too, but I've hung around armorers too much. I have a picture I scanned of the ring, if you want to see it, but I have to send it privately because the list doesn't like attachments. Let me know if I've piqued your interest to that extent. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at branford.inbox.as Thu Mar 8 23:33:53 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:33:53 -0000 Subject: book-banning and artwork Message-ID: Continuing my earlier message. This is also fairly OT, and hence posted here. Rebecca: "Well, this particular evangelical fundamentalist Christian is tearing her hair out in despair over the stupidity of it all... Harry's lightning-bolt scar a "Satanic S"? How much more idiotic does it get? I think if Satan is laughing about anything to do with the HP books, it's the incredible amount of time and energy some Christians are wasting on attacking JKR and her work when so many *real* spiritual battles are being ignored." I was most amused. According to the silly site mentioned by John I am a satan worshipper. I have been writing my s as what they refer to as a satanic s for ages. Was surfing the information superhighway and found a couple of cool HP pictures: http://www.hpgalleries.com/art15.htm Pictures of Harry, Hedwig, Ron and Hermione. From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 23:43:03 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:43:03 -0600 Subject: OT even for here [Fwd: The "Number" of the Beast...] Message-ID: <3AA81907.D375FE0D@texas.net> Totally off-topic, to lighten things up a bit....hope you Brits know who Barney is (well, actually I hope you don't, because I hate him, but it would help you get the joke). --Amanda -------- Original Message -------- ---------- PROOF THAT BARNEY IS SATAN... Given: Barney is a cute purple dinosaur Prove: Barney is Satan 1) Start with the given: CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR 2) Change all U's to V's: CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR (...which is proper latin anyway...) 3) Extract all Roman Numerals: C V V L D I V 4) Convert into Arabic values: 100 5 5 50 500 1 5 5) Add all the numbers: 666 Thus, Barney is the AntiChrist. (!) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Thu Mar 8 23:45:52 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:45:52 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <007b01c0a7e5$b40d6520$5414a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9895jg+67tg@eGroups.com> "Vigilance is the key," said Moody constantly "You will die an early tragic death, young Harry," said Trelawney, predictably. I'll do whatever it takes to restore Voldemort to power," said Wormtail handily "Prof. Snape, I'm having a problem with my cauldron again," said Neville meltingly. "Can you guess what kind of animal I can turn into?" asked Sirius fetchingly "What kind of animal did my father become?" asked Harry endearingly "Just what kind of effect does this basilisk have upon people?" asked Pomfrey stonily. "Your dark **WHAT** has come back again?" cried Snape remarkably "I now know how to win the first Triwizard task," said Harry sweepingly. (How can these be considered off-topic? The several series of Swifties recently posted comprise the very essence of the HP series!) - said CMC rowlingly From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 8 23:52:52 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:52:52 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: [HPforGrownups] Re: OT--Christians for Harry Potter] Message-ID: <3AA81B54.949AF9B3@texas.net> I had asked Caius for an acronym last month; here's what he suggested. I want a T-shirt, myself. --Amanda -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: OT--Christians for Harry Potter Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:36:59 -0000 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net Reply-To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Kimberly wrote: > > > I wonder if there's a Christians Against Censorship group or > > something? Not quite as catchy as SPEW, but I'd wear that badge! > > Lessee. Howzabout Christians Against Censorship, Klans, Lunatics, & > Extremism (CACKLE)? Best I could do off the top of my head. Caius? > Christians Repudiating Unreasonable Censorship of Imaginary Other- worlds (CRUCIO) - CMC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Brought to you by Harry Potter for Grownups. For more information, see our website at groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups -- also, you can check out our eGroups/YahooGroups merger pointers file at groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/+merger.txt To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPforGrownups-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailGE.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail8M.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail0G.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 00:11:16 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:11:16 +0000 Subject: That Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: <3AA81B54.949AF9B3@texas.net> Message-ID: Seeing as I *really* couldn't find any way that this should go on the main list, I decided to send it here for your amusement. Usual don't-take-it-too-seriously caveats apply, Mr Emptor, so don't go there :) Oh, and this can be found at About.com under the Gay/Lesbian area's "Burn Ms Laura" (no, the campaign's not called that, but it sounds good, huh?) section. (FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO JUST WENT "WHO'S DR LAURA?": She's a rightwing "family values" D-List celebrity who has her own TV show [which, thank the deity of your choice, looks like it's being pulled due to lack of advertisers wanting to be associated with her hate drivel] and used to (still does?) have a radio show in LA. It's the usual American Moralist Christian stuff -- gay people are evil, so are non-Christians, (especially Wiccans), premarital sex sends you to hell ::John realises he's counting these things off on his fingers so decides to close this:: There's no real UK equivalent I can point you to. The woman is just I-N-S-A-N-E.) Dear Dr. Laura, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify? I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or is calling the police sufficient? A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear prescription glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. From simon at branford.inbox.as Fri Mar 9 00:18:27 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:18:27 -0000 Subject: evenings In-Reply-To: <984095033.2508.53389.l8@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Ben: "We used to play penny poker as well, which was a good excuse to drink, listen to music and chat, and only cost about a pound for the whole night (empty rooms below and beside me, and a new stereo, yay)" But that is forgetting the whiskey, which was an important part of the evening. Ben: "Alternatively you can go to chapel, but come out for a cup of tea when the sermon starts... ;)" I have no idea what you are trying to suggest. Who would do such a thing? I nearly froze to death in Chapel on Sunday, first time I had been in ages. Guess it was the lack of a cuppa part way through the service that caused this! I could explain some of, if not all of the above. That would spoil all the fun! Simon -- Mrs. Elizabeth Branford of Devon. She and her young baby son, Simon, were on a shopping trip to London ... "I was pushing Simon in his pram ... I hurled myself over Simon's pram to protect him ... I heard the man I'd just passed cursing loudly. I covered up Simon's ears ..." - A Sirius Affair Chapter 13: Trials and Tribulations by Penny and Carole (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParadigmOfUncertainty) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lj2d30 at gateway.net Fri Mar 9 00:36:03 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:36:03 -0000 Subject: That Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9898hj+dnmt@eGroups.com> And a couple of these were used in a West Wing episode in which President Bartlett decimated a Dr. Laura-esqe type at a reception at the White House, notably the following: >I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? > I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself,or is calling the police sufficient?<< I loved the letter, BTW. Throwing the source back at them usually shuts these types up, or at the very least, send them into a tizzy trying to find counter arguements! Trina From simon at branford.inbox.as Fri Mar 9 00:52:40 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:52:40 -0000 Subject: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9899go+91n7@eGroups.com> John: "Seeing as I *really* couldn't find any way that this should go on the main list, I decided to send it here for your amusement. Usual don't-take-it-too-seriously caveats apply, Mr Emptor, so don't go there :)" What is it with this message? This is the third time I have got it in the last month! >From the letter: "I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?" Passage mentioned: "If a man sells his daughter as a servant" That is hardly suggesting that one should, it is dealing with the case of what to do if one does. >From the letter: "A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?" Passage mentioned: "You must distinguish between the holy and the common, between the unclean and the clean" Hardly relevant to the question asked. Especially as teh rest of the passage is on rituals. >From the letter: "Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear prescription glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?" Passage mentioned: "If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless." Yes a very interesting passage, but not entirely relevant to the matter in hand. Simon From find_sam at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 00:59:58 2001 From: find_sam at hotmail.com (find_sam at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:59:58 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <9895jg+67tg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9899ue+a544@eGroups.com> 'Time to take my Polyjuice Potion again!' said Crouch Jr. moodily. 'We have to make Polyjuice Potion!' sayd Hermione, most potently. 'You'll never guess what sort of Animagus I am,' said McGonagall cattily. From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 01:06:32 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:06:32 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: <9899go+91n7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Me: > Seeing as I *really* couldn't find any way that this should go > on the main list, I decided to send it here for your amusement. Usual > don't-take-it-too-seriously caveats apply, Mr Emptor, so don't go > there :) Pigwidgeon: See, it's a Joke, as in the title "That Great Dr Laura JOKE". Funny-ha-ha. A rib-tickler, if you so please, except not in public, because that will get you arrested. Tickling ribs, bad plan. Anyway, yes, it's a joke. Hence its inclusion on the OT-CHATTER list where we're currently discussing...religion, specifically with regard to certain sects of a certain religion attempting to ban a certain book. An amusing parody of a certain celebrity who certainly belongs to a certain sect of said certain religion trying to ban said certain book is arguably on-topic on this off-topic list. (Oh, and when it says "Leviticus 20:20" with regard to eyesight...it's not talking about passage numbers.) "Hey, Harry, why don't you let some light into the room," Ron said certainly. (Yes, that's it, make the soft "c" into a hard "c"...) --John, certainly certain (or curtain...) about that. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From simon at branford.inbox.as Fri Mar 9 01:21:19 2001 From: simon at branford.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:21:19 -0000 Subject: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <989b6f+hblh@eGroups.com> John: "Seeing as I *really* couldn't find any way that this should go on the main list, I decided to send it here for your amusement. Usual don't-take-it-too-seriously caveats apply, Mr Emptor, so don't go there :)" Apparently I wrote: "" John: "See, it's a Joke, as in the title "That Great Dr Laura JOKE". Funny-ha-ha. A rib-tickler, if you so please, except not in public, because that will get you arrested. Tickling ribs, bad plan." And: "Anyway, yes, it's a joke. Hence its inclusion on the OT-CHATTER list where we're currently discussing...religion, specifically with regard to certain sects of a certain religion attempting to ban a certain book. An amusing parody of a certain celebrity who certainly belongs to a certain sect of said certain religion trying to ban said certain book is arguably on-topic on this off-topic list." Yes it may be a joke, but not one that I found very amusing. I can see why it could be funny to some and appreciate that it is meant as nothing more than a response to one person's comments on religion (i.e. Dr Laura who I know nothing about). If I had seen the television programme in question then maybe I would find it amusing. I also agree that this is the place for such comments. This does not, however, mean that I cannot, or should not, respond in the way I chose to do so. I merely pointed out a couple of inaccuracies in the message. If such a message is posted then I see no reason that people should not be able to reply as they see fit, as long as they do so in a way that respects the views of others and does not personally attack anyone. And also: "(Oh, and when it says "Leviticus 20:20" with regard to eyesight...it's not talking about passage numbers.)" You don't say. I never would have guessed! Here was me thinking they had just managed to quote the wrong passage. Simon From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 01:38:03 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:38:03 -0000 Subject: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: <989b6f+hblh@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <989c5r+jqei@eGroups.com> Well, I did think it was funny, but that's because I know Dr. Laura. Simon, you are perfectly right to respond in any way you please! Since you didn't know her, and you wanted to look up the references... well, Dr. Laura is rather, er, hard to swallow, for most of us, even the Christians - but I think we ought to refute her with correct passages. There are so many that we could quote at her, if you know what I mean. Cheers all! Heather M., happily eating chocolate chip cookies. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 9 01:44:51 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:44:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, John Walton wrote: > An amusing parody of a certain celebrity who certainly belongs to a > certain sect of said certain religion trying to ban said certain > book is arguably on-topic on this off-topic list. Assuming said religion is Christianity... Dr. Laura (and really, isn't there something suspicious just to begin with about Dr. 'First Name'... "Hi Everybody!" "Hi Dr. Nick!"...) is an orthodox Jew, I believe, and not Christian a' 'tall. Which makes it just all the more odd that she's so cosy with the Christian right, since they believe she's destined for the Great Warm Place... They agree on everything but that. Scary. And do ignore the fresh-picked nit there *g*. --jen, who did find the joke quite amusing... :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From starling823 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 01:46:28 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:46:28 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke References: <989b6f+hblh@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00a401c0a83a$c983c700$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> **delurking, again** regarding this whole dr. laura bit: first of all, i recall hearing from somewhere that dr. laura is an orthodox jew. so actually, we're browbeating the wrong group entirely (note: i am not encouraging the browbeating of any religious group, i prefer simply laughing at stupidity. it's better for the blood pressure.) anywho...those jokes did indeed fall flat, so how bout we take them with a collective grain of salt and find something new to chortle over Abbie (who is giving up on lurking as people here talk about so many interesting things...) starling823 at yahoo.com "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" ----- Original Message ----- From: Pigwidgeon To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 08 March, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke John: "Seeing as I *really* couldn't find any way that this should go on the main list, I decided to send it here for your amusement. Usual don't-take-it-too-seriously caveats apply, Mr Emptor, so don't go there :)" Apparently I wrote: "" John: "See, it's a Joke, as in the title "That Great Dr Laura JOKE". Funny-ha-ha. A rib-tickler, if you so please, except not in public, because that will get you arrested. Tickling ribs, bad plan." And: "Anyway, yes, it's a joke. Hence its inclusion on the OT-CHATTER list where we're currently discussing...religion, specifically with regard to certain sects of a certain religion attempting to ban a certain book. An amusing parody of a certain celebrity who certainly belongs to a certain sect of said certain religion trying to ban said certain book is arguably on-topic on this off-topic list." Yes it may be a joke, but not one that I found very amusing. I can see why it could be funny to some and appreciate that it is meant as nothing more than a response to one person's comments on religion (i.e. Dr Laura who I know nothing about). If I had seen the television programme in question then maybe I would find it amusing. I also agree that this is the place for such comments. This does not, however, mean that I cannot, or should not, respond in the way I chose to do so. I merely pointed out a couple of inaccuracies in the message. If such a message is posted then I see no reason that people should not be able to reply as they see fit, as long as they do so in a way that respects the views of others and does not personally attack anyone. And also: "(Oh, and when it says "Leviticus 20:20" with regard to eyesight...it's not talking about passage numbers.)" You don't say. I never would have guessed! Here was me thinking they had just managed to quote the wrong passage. Simon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 9 02:03:14 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:03:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] That Great Dr Laura joke References: Message-ID: <3AA839E2.5231E13F@texas.net> John Walton wrote: > (FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO JUST WENT "WHO'S DR LAURA?": > It's the usual American Moralist Christian stuff -- gay > people are evil, so are non-Christians, (especially Wiccans), > premarital sex sends you to hell You should be aware that Dr. Laura is an observant Jew. She's promulgating American Moralist *Judeo*-Christian stuff. And she does have the occasional good point (there's an area between the kids' school and our house where our car radio gets only the station that carries her), but I don't like her much because she seems a bit lacking in compassion and often doesn't let her callers finish their sentences. But just wanted to clarify that Christian thing. 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In-Reply-To: <015501c0a78e$c62238a0$d33670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <989ffv+h25l@eGroups.com> Neil wrote: "As for the coins, there are lions on the back of several British coins; the lion being a national symbol for Britain (the rose being for England). There's are some with Britannia herself and some with the coat of arms of Britain, featuring the lion and the unicorn. "Other coins feature a dragon (a really nice one) or a leek or Prince of Wales feathers (for Wales), a thistle (for Scotland), various weird things (for the EU). Just rummaging though my change, I can also see an oak tree on one - and the phrase "British Oak" springs into my head..." --Hmmm On closer inspection I see that it IS a dragon on the 1 GBP coin that I am minutely examining...Also is that Welsh around the side of the coin? It's not latin. Can anyone tell me what it means. "Pleidiol Wyf I'm Gwlad" Scott Who gets rather too excited over British money considering he can't spend it... From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 02:50:25 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 02:50:25 -0000 Subject: This one's over the top In-Reply-To: <3AA840C0.5BE7D11@texas.net> Message-ID: <989gdh+47i4@eGroups.com> Amanda wrote: "Ooooh, guys, you ain't seen nothin' yet. I saw a reference to this article and just *had* to chase it down. Unbelievable. And frightening. I wish I could think the author was doing a parody of anti-HP stuff, but I think he's serious." --Is this REALLY for real? Huh?!? I don't know. We can read endlessly into relationships, and I guess that's just because we want to, so perhaps if you open up to page one of PS/SS with the mindset "These books ARE evil" then it almost forces one to see things that mightn't otherwise be there. I dunno, but I would say THIS is over analysing far more than our discussions are... Scott From starling823 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 02:52:46 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:52:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] This one's over the top References: <3AA840C0.5BE7D11@texas.net> Message-ID: <001101c0a844$09660fa0$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> well, perhaps, as a physician, this gentleman is a little overcautious -- my dad's in law enforcement, and he was always "overprotective" of us kids from what he's seen in his years on the force. but i would like to know what's up with his kids are that they might possibly know any of that information about wormwood? when i was 12 and was encountering references to plants like wormwood in fantasy books, i just assumed it was some creation in an author's mind -- i was pretty durn surprised to discover in bio class that it really exists! Too bad overprotective dad feels that the solution is making other parent's decisions for them. He should try talking to his own kids about drugs. They're gonna hear it somewhere -- better from Harry Potter than the dealer in the high school bathroom. Abbie starling823 at yahoo.com "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 08 March, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] This one's over the top Ooooh, guys, you ain't seen nothin' yet. I saw a reference to this article and just *had* to chase it down. Unbelievable. And frightening. I wish I could think the author was doing a parody of anti-HP stuff, but I think he's serious. Too bad he's a weenie that didn't sign his name. http://lancasteryouth.homestead.com/harrytakesdrugs.html --Amanda Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 04:16:00 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 04:16:00 -0000 Subject: Magic...(includes religion and various ramblings...) Message-ID: <989le0+56j2@eGroups.com> I chopped this off of my post to the main list as it really didn't have anything to do with Harry Potter. I still think it is worth posting though. Ebony wrote: "..I took an instant poll--do you believe in magic and superstition in real life? In this particular class, all of the students said "no" save one. As we moved on, his tablemates asked him why."Because... magic *is* science," he said, as if this was the most obvious thing in the world." --All but one said no? I would have thought that more would have said yes. When I was there age I thought that I "knew better" than to believe in magic, but still desperately wanted too. I remember a line from a poem I wrote at that age it's title was "I've learned" "...I've learned there's no such thing as magic, and ruby slippers wont take you to Oz." That, if nothing else, was the hardest thing for me to accept. Maybe it's because I have a very vivid imagination (according to that article yet another evil thing about me), or maybe it's that I'm an only child and have always had to look inside myself to an extent for entertainment. Now that I've had few years to think about this I disagree with my earliar self. I do think there is magic. Harry Potter-type magic I don't know but magic most definetely. There's magic in rain beating on the windowsill, in the wind pushing one's hair back on a windy afternoon, in sitting by the fire and falling asleep in the arms of someone you love. Magic is in a warm embrace, and even in a having a good cry. Magic is in losing yourself in a fictional world, or in another person (some people call it falling in love.) There's magic in being on stage on opening night, in hitting that perfect chord at the end of a song and getting a standing ovation. Honestly- no magic! Some people are looking for magic so hard that they don't see it. You see life is magic, and like magic it can be both a blessing and a curse. Make it a blessing. The best way to do that is to fill one's life with peace and love (Some call this God). Thats why I think religion is such a great thing. I don't care how one comes to it, you can call God- Yahweh, Jehovah, Krishna, Allah, anything at all really. That doesn't matter much to me. I just hope everbody can find that magic inside themselves, because it's already there, we spend our whole lives searching and, IMO it's already there. I have a feeling that those Religious Right people would call the above blasphemous heresy but it's my opinion only and thats ok. Today we were discussing the Aenied (sp?) in Latin, and about how many famous Romans tried to trace their lineage to the gods. Someone asked "But they couldn't could they. I mean the gods didn't really exist." I came back with "How do we know?" which might have made some people uncomfortable. "Because we're Christians obviously." But then who's to say that Christianity has any validity except those who believe it. The truth is we DON'T know, and we can't know, nor should we try to. Maybe believing is enough. If those people truly believed maybe that was all it took. That doesn't mean the gods of antiquity are real, but who has the authority to say ANYTHING isn't real to those that believe it is? I've probably rambled WAY to much but then this IS OT-chatter. I hope that I didn't offend anyone with my views. Just remember that they are MY views and that's all. Scott ______________________________________________________________________ "I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now? Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." - John Lennon From starling823 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 04:27:28 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:27:28 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magic...(includes religion and various ramblings...) References: <989le0+56j2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <006f01c0a851$40a8de40$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> scott wrote: >Now that I've had few years to think about this I disagree with my >earliar self. I do think there is magic. Harry Potter-type magic I >don't know but magic most definetely. There's magic in rain beating >on the windowsill, in the wind pushing one's hair back on a windy >afternoon, in sitting by the fire and falling asleep in the arms of >someone you love. Magic is in a warm embrace, and even in a having a >good cry. Magic is in losing yourself in a fictional world, or in >another person (some people call it falling in love.) There's magic >in being on stage on opening night, in hitting that perfect chord at >the end of a song and getting a standing ovation. that is beautiful, and true as anything i have ever heard. and let's not forget the magic in words that bring a smile to your face and a tear to your eye. starling823 at yahoo.com "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 08 March, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Magic...(includes religion and various ramblings...) I chopped this off of my post to the main list as it really didn't have anything to do with Harry Potter. I still think it is worth posting though. Ebony wrote: "..I took an instant poll--do you believe in magic and superstition in real life? In this particular class, all of the students said "no" save one. As we moved on, his tablemates asked him why."Because... magic *is* science," he said, as if this was the most obvious thing in the world." --All but one said no? I would have thought that more would have said yes. When I was there age I thought that I "knew better" than to believe in magic, but still desperately wanted too. I remember a line from a poem I wrote at that age it's title was "I've learned" "...I've learned there's no such thing as magic, and ruby slippers wont take you to Oz." That, if nothing else, was the hardest thing for me to accept. Maybe it's because I have a very vivid imagination (according to that article yet another evil thing about me), or maybe it's that I'm an only child and have always had to look inside myself to an extent for entertainment. Now that I've had few years to think about this I disagree with my earliar self. I do think there is magic. Harry Potter-type magic I don't know but magic most definetely. There's magic in rain beating on the windowsill, in the wind pushing one's hair back on a windy afternoon, in sitting by the fire and falling asleep in the arms of someone you love. Magic is in a warm embrace, and even in a having a good cry. Magic is in losing yourself in a fictional world, or in another person (some people call it falling in love.) There's magic in being on stage on opening night, in hitting that perfect chord at the end of a song and getting a standing ovation. Honestly- no magic! Some people are looking for magic so hard that they don't see it. You see life is magic, and like magic it can be both a blessing and a curse. Make it a blessing. The best way to do that is to fill one's life with peace and love (Some call this God). Thats why I think religion is such a great thing. I don't care how one comes to it, you can call God- Yahweh, Jehovah, Krishna, Allah, anything at all really. That doesn't matter much to me. I just hope everbody can find that magic inside themselves, because it's already there, we spend our whole lives searching and, IMO it's already there. I have a feeling that those Religious Right people would call the above blasphemous heresy but it's my opinion only and thats ok. Today we were discussing the Aenied (sp?) in Latin, and about how many famous Romans tried to trace their lineage to the gods. Someone asked "But they couldn't could they. I mean the gods didn't really exist." I came back with "How do we know?" which might have made some people uncomfortable. "Because we're Christians obviously." But then who's to say that Christianity has any validity except those who believe it. The truth is we DON'T know, and we can't know, nor should we try to. Maybe believing is enough. If those people truly believed maybe that was all it took. That doesn't mean the gods of antiquity are real, but who has the authority to say ANYTHING isn't real to those that believe it is? I've probably rambled WAY to much but then this IS OT-chatter. I hope that I didn't offend anyone with my views. Just remember that they are MY views and that's all. Scott ______________________________________________________________________ "I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now? Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." - John Lennon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 04:42:00 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 04:42:00 -0000 Subject: Giving Christians a bad name... Message-ID: <989muo+karu@eGroups.com> Stacey wrote: "Ugh. That site, while amusing, is also embarassing. That type of site drives me nuts -- it's so ridiculous." --As a Christian I AM embarrassed. For God's sake the books teach good values, to people of all religions, whether Christian or Pagan. They (the HP books) do a better job of it than some (but by no means all) Christians do. I have a very close friend who is Hindu and she heard some so-called Christians say something the affect of "We should kill all the gay people in the world!" That makes me sick to my stomach, not because I'm gay (I'm not) but because my friend thought that it was a typical Christian attitude. ("Isn't that judging? People aren't supposed to do that are they?") "Stacy (who had no idea that using her mind's eye to picture something and then write about it was against Christianity . . .)" --Neither did I. And if it's such a bad thing I'd like to know how they think the bible was written. Scott ______________________________________________________________________ ""I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now? Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." - John Lennon From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 9 06:25:56 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:25:56 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: some Brit expressions found in HP References: <988g5c+tg2l@eGroups.com> <00cc01c0a80a$0354c3c0$5414a3d1@doreen> <3AA81466.B995809C@texas.net> Message-ID: <009001c0a861$cf1dbaa0$0714a3d1@doreen> Doreen wrote: > Filch - To filch is to steal or pilfer. The origin is apparently unknown (wow.. right there, obvious as heck and I never gave it any thought... I guess I enjoyed his character too much to attach any meaning to his name) What a *perfect* name for the character!! Jo rivals Dickens in creating descriptive names for many of her characters. I love it! But "filch" is not a particularly British usage. It's a very familiar word to most of the Americans I know. I even made reference to it in a different post, when I said that I'd thought the term "filk" was a play on both "folk" and "filch," a witty play since the tunes are, in fact, filched, and they often were originally folk songs treated so. Why did you put this on your Britspeak list? It is not "my Britspeak list" ... it was a quote from the webpage that I gave the url for... The lines that I included in my letter were those which particularly amused me. I found this webpage when I was looking up the difference between crumpets and biscuits... The authors of the webpage state, "This site started as a simple list to amuse our friends when we moved to the USA for 2 years - believe it or not, to a house in Tossa Lane!!! If you have comments, suggestions or corrections please drop us a line. (Though please don't write to tell us that some of the words have the same usage in your part of America. It's a big place - we know some words are the same in some areas). How about the fact that I had Spotted Dick for dessert the other night? In some states, it's only illegal if you pay for it, so you're probably clear. But you might want to see your doctor. --Amanda ROTFLMAO ... That was certainly a case of, "That sounded much better in my head than it looks in print." Doreen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 9 07:21:58 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 07:21:58 -0000 Subject: This one's over the top In-Reply-To: <3AA840C0.5BE7D11@texas.net> Message-ID: <98a0am+ri38@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Ooooh, guys, you ain't seen nothin' yet. I saw a reference to this > article and just *had* to chase it down. Unbelievable. And frightening. > I wish I could think the author was doing a parody of anti-HP stuff, but > I think he's serious. Too bad he's a weenie that didn't sign his name. > > http://lancasteryouth.homestead.com/harrytakesdrugs.html > > --Amanda Yeah, I remember this. I seem to recall that this was a much longer essay, with several examples of 'drug use' in SS; wonder why they didn't post the full version? When I first saw it, it was on that Family Friendly Libraries site, but when I went there just now, none of the HP-related articles come up. Too bad; you wouldn't believe how bizarre some of it got. These articles just leave me totally dumbfounded, sad, and more than a little frightened.... Kelley From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 9 07:25:59 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:25:59 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT: Cat haikus References: Message-ID: <010d01c0a86a$3342f600$0714a3d1@doreen> Those are hysterically funny! They didn't happen to have any about dogs and dog drool... that sort of thing, did they? Doreen, whose cat types the most interesting words when she jumps from her sleeping spot on the monitor onto the keyboard. These were posted to another list. Cat lovers (and cat haters) will get a chuckle: Cat Haikus You never feed me. Perhaps I'll sleep on your face. That will sure show you. You must scratch me there! Yes, above my tail! Behold, elevator butt. The rule for today Touch my tail, I shred your hand. New rule tomorrow. In deep sleep hear sound Cat vomit, hairball somewhere Will find in morning. Grace personified. I leap into the window. I meant to do that. Blur of motion, then Silence, me, a paper bag. What is so funny? The mighty hunter Returns with gifts of plump birds Your foot just squashed one. You're always typing. Well, let's see you ignore me Sitting on your hands. My small cardboard box. You cannot see me it I Can just hide my head. Terrible battle, I fought for hours. Come and See! What's a 'term paper'? Kitty likes plastic Confuses for litter box Don't leave tarp around. Small brave carnivores Kill pine cones and mosquitoes Fear vacuum cleaner. I want to be close to you. Can I fit my head Inside your armpit? Want to go outside. Uh oh! Help! I am outside! Let me back inside! Oh no! My human Has been trapped by newspaper! Cat to the rescue! Humans are so strange. Mine lies in bed and then screams My claws are not that sharp. Cats meow out of angst "Thumbs! If we only had thumbs! We could break so much!" Litter box not here You must have moved it again I'll go in the sink. My humans are snoring now Every room is dark and cold Time for "Cup Hockey". We're almost equals I purr to show I love you Scratch me there again, again. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 9 07:21:33 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:21:33 -0000 Subject: Quite a week - rambling about computer problems - WHSminths - heated debates Message-ID: <00b301c0a869$a68d89a0$a53670c2@c5s910j> I've had a quite a week of it at work, but some joy was injected by a few minor Harry Potter moments. When our entire computer network was down (due to the fifth hardware failure in three weeks, including two different problems on two different servers), I could only access my business e-mail via Demon's website, so I had to enter a password. This turned out to be 'harRy'. I also took delivery of a whizzy new notebook computer this week, and once I'd got past a shouting match with the imbecile who sent us the wrong (and very expensive) operating system and received and installed the correct software, it was time to give the computer a name. All our computers are named after trees (everbody say "aaaaah!"). My desktop is called Maple, for example, and our troublesome servers are Poplar, Palm and Chestnut (my female IT manager has decided Chestnut is male, because "he" decided to go wrong...). I chose Willow for the notebook, in honour of my dear friend and sparring partner The Whomping Willow. I trust that the machine is now blessed with the protection of Harry Potter and will never let me down. I was also pleased when Sheryll's tape of CoS *finally* showed up after WHSmiths Online sent me the book instead (so, Sheryll, you will be getting them very soon!). I returned the book to a nearby WHSmiths' store as instructed, but it soon became clear that WHSmiths have no system in place to confirm that incorrect items have been returned. They simply send out the correct item and trust the purchaser to return the wrong one! So, if anyone else gets sent the wrong thing by WHSmiths Online, keep it. The stupid article who served me in the shop also tried to recredit my card for the book I was returning ! I'm annoyingly honest, so I pointed out her stupidity. However, if I had a criminal bent, I could have profited to the tune of one harback copy of CoS and ?10.99 added to my debit card. Noting another shipping debate forging its way through the main list (plus the obligatory side order of 'the debate about the debate about the shipping debate'), I was hoping for something more original and lighthearted on this list, but discovered, instead, bad feelings surfacing over this Dr Laura 'joke' thing. I decided to steer well clear of saying anything at all on this, especially as I will be seeing Simon next week and John the week after and don't want that overshadowed by some crass remark I might have made. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebonyink at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:38:33 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:38:33 -0000 Subject: Magic, Kids, and Detroit--long anecdote In-Reply-To: <989le0+56j2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98a4q9+kj7h@eGroups.com> I wrote: > "..I took an instant poll--do you believe in magic and superstition > in real life? In this particular class, all of the students said > "no" save one. As we moved on, his tablemates asked him > why."Because... magic *is* science," he said, as if this was the most obvious thing in the world." Scott wrote: > --All but one said no? I would have thought that more would have said yes. When I was there age I thought that I "knew better" than to believe in magic, but still desperately wanted to... My kids are the opposite, Scott. They believe it, but they don't want to. :-) Consider the source. My students have been identified by our district as TAG, but they are growing up in Detroit, Michigan. If you know Detroit well, you need not read further. ;-) If you don't, I'll try to explain where the sentiment was coming from. Not too many good things have been said about Detroit in my lifetime. When I went to college, I had fun hearing all my buddies' perceptions of my hometown. After all, we've been called the first Third World American City. Hundreds of houses are burned down every October 30 in a pyromaniacal event known as Devil's Night. In the eighties when I was growing up, the crime rate was astronomical, and while greatly improved, it's still not Candyland now. My students are a lot like me, Scott. I had good, hard-working blue collar parents. I was a bright kid, and they sheltered me from a lot. I always told college friends that Detroit wasn't so bad... and it isn't. I loved it enough here to come back. But I grew up in the eye of the storm just a few years before my students' time, and for some strange reason, I want you to show what my students' worldview is, so you can understand where they're coming from. Here's my personal crime report, and it's one of the better ones. My dad was carjacked twice--first time in 1995 wasn't successful, the second time in 1998 was. Dad stumbled home confused, carless, and injured, and died ten days later of a massive heart attack. Gunshots were as much a part of the city's music as vehicles, helicopters, and sirens--growing up I heard gunfire all the time, and random bullets hit our house and car on two different occasions. (This is why I have a great deal of trouble with the sudden outcry in recent years about how our violent, trigger-happy culture is influencing children for ill... why wasn't their a bipartisan demand for gun control when school violence first erupted in the mid to late eighties in our urban centers? I'll save you my usual rant. :-)) No, we didn't sell drugs. No, there were no gangsters prowling the streets. My dad was a mailman and my mom stayed at home so that my sisters and I wouldn't become statistics. We lived in a neighborhood consisting of elderly people who planted flowers and fussed at my sisters and I from their porches. Yet gun violence claimed the lives of a half dozen of my childhood friends... again, I'll spare you the rant. My mother, sisters, and I have all been assaulted with a weapon. Three of my uncles are walking around Detroit and Brooklyn with bullets inside of them. So is an aunt. I'm a godmother twice over--my best friend is raising her children alone, as their father was shot to death seven years ago at the ripe old age of 18. My cousin was shot in the stomach the year I went to college... after a long battle and much prayer, she lived. Our house was burglarized until we were forced to get an alarm system and security bars, and every school I've ever attended or taught in here gets broken into at least once a year... all right, I'll stop at the tip of the iceberg. The local economy isn't very diversified, either. It consists of fast-foot joints, liquor stores, gas stations, Chaldean-run mom and pop groceries, drugstores scattered here and there that all close at 8 or 9 p.m., one SuperKmart on the edge of the city, beauty supply stores, hair salons, and churches. That's it. If you want anything else--a sit-down dinner or a new suit or a Borders book--you have to drive to the suburbs. There is almost no downtown commerce. I thought was the way all cities were until I began to travel and realized with shock, "Nope, it's just us." I've never seen anything like this. Transplants are horrified by how "dead" this city is. They stammer, "But don't over a million people live in the city? Cities half this size have --fill in the blank--." Oh, well. We don't. The no-brainer solution for most Americans with the means would have been to move into the suburbs, as a few family friends did, but no one in my extended family even considered it an option. My mother's position in a nutshell was "Like nothing bad ever happens out there. And I'm not about to chase after *them*... whenever we move in, they move out, and then we'll be dealing with the same old element." You see, living in the concrete jungle was far preferable to the open hostility (and sometimes more) that family friends faced when moving... we were not, and are not, wanted in all but a handful of the many local suburbs. The unique racial and ethnic polarity of the metro Detroit area is so profound that sociologists have dissected it, and all of my college friends who've come up to visit have picked up on it. (That's an entirely different post, though.) Suffice it to say that some of us were lumped into the "urban underclass" not by default, but by choice... including most of my students' college-educated, gainfully employed parents. Summary of the above: my students, bright as they are, are growing up in a real-life dystopia. They enjoy books like Harry Potter with gusto, they identify with the characters, they love the fantastic and the improbable. Yet even as much as they love the series, at the deepest part of them, they don't buy it. Not really. They are drawn to the idea of magic and fantasy as all children are, but they reject it as being Too Good To Be True. In order to grow up in Detroit without becoming a statistic, you must turn cynicism into an art form. You learn to detach early in life... if you think about the blight, and the crime, and the institutionalized racism, and the utter hopelessness of the situation all at once, it will destroy you. That's one script I've seen play over and over again in lives all around me ever since I can remember. My students' parents, and their teachers, are for the most part realists. I haven't shared with the list much of the *other* side of my classroom Harry Potter conversations. Ask them who their favorite character is and they're very vocal. Ask them about what will happen or who should be with who or why the books should or should not be banned... they'll talk your ear off. Ask them which character they identify with or admire... a sizeable number of them draw a blank. Then ask them if they believe in magic and the supernatural... they will look at you as if you're insane. So, to break it down into terms that they can understand, I tell them stories. I tell them stories from my own life and childhood. I tell them about walking home from the DOT stop on Dexter Avenue sometime around May 1994. Glad that spring had finally arrived after a long, harsh winter. Taking care that you didn't get broken glass or discarded Coney Island carton in your sandals. Staying completely alert but strangely tuned into your surroundings, with the nonchalant withitness that characterizes inner-city residents. Making sure your jewelry was hidden or removed--I was assaulted during my freshman year of high school when, lost in a daydream, I'd forgotten to do this before leaving school. They nod... they can relate to this. Every Detroiter I've ever met has their own urban nightmare to share. Then... I tell them about noticing flowers half-hidden in litter- strewn, knee-high weeds. I tell them about the green clover that thrives in the cracks of sidewalks and gutters in my own neighborhood, and how it was always good--if I stumbled upon it before I saw it, the first I'd notice was the faint scent of fresh greenery that crushing it between my heel and the sidewalk had released. Or if I was taking my time on my own block, I'd search for the all important four-leaf one... and no, I never found it. ("But I did!" one or more of the kids invariably exclaims.) Once they're warmed to me, I tell them about being ten again, laying in the grass of my grandmother's tiny garden plot, pretending that it was a field, looking up at the space in the sky between the houses-- and playing cloud games. Or standing on tiptoe next to my mother at my window in the middle of a winter's night, utterly amazed at the amber sky and the white-blanketed world--and I still haven't found the words to describe the way that a new snowstorm hushes the city sounds, cloaking them in silence. And then I stop. All the kids I've ever encountered can relate to this... and then they tell me what they've noticed. And when I take the poll on magic at the end of the hour, quite a few students have changed their minds. Detroit is a paradox. So are my students, and when I think about it, so are most of the kids in this city. So am I. If we accept those three statements as givens, then a belief in magic and the supernatural is automatically assumed. This is why the kids, once they thought about it, reversed their votes. For even children born in the eye of a storm are children. And our stories are so rarely told... I can't identify with the protagonist of *A Hero Ain't Nuthin' But A Sandwich*, for instance, and neither can most city kids. I do identify with Lauryn Hill's *Every Ghetto, Every City* (explores the universality of urban childhood, sweet yet shadowed) and R. Kelly's *I Wish* (laments his gunned-down childhood playmates and family members)... both grew up in situations like my upbringing, and the first time I heard each song, I had to pull the car over and cry. I am not joking. Even six months after I first heard it, two points of Kelly's song (which stayed at #1 on the urban charts for weeks and weeks on end this fall--and it deserved to) still make my eyes sting. When he tells his dead loved one "it's all right now--we're out the 'hood now," in that instant, I think of my best friend's dreams, ended by teen pregnancy and single motherhood... and I see my father's eyes. He wanted so much for me because he'd wanted so much for himself. I'm "out the 'hood now"... but my best friend isn't yet, and my father didn't quite make it. Then he addresses society at the very end: "instead of the world throwing stones at me... somebody pray for me". That one lyric expresses the feelings of my students, and they say it to me all the time. Deep down, my black and Hispanic children are fighting against all the negative messages that mainstream society and their own cultures constantly feed them. I know that fight... the script is subtler now than it used to me, and that makes it even more dangerous. I think of my mission as this. I have to prepare these children--and that means any child--to run a race. They're starting a little bit behind the other runners... several generations behind, in fact. Many of them have the equivalent of sprained ankles, broken legs, even mild dehydration. Even the healthy ones are "When I say go, you've got to run," is the unspoken message I'm trying to convey when I teach. The kid-racers look at the other runners, many yards ahead. Then they look at me as if I'm an alien. "You expect us to run? But look at them!" "Sure, look at them. They're farther ahead of you. Many of them have better running shoes. And a few of them don't much like the thought of you running. But you've got to run." The kids still look at me as if I have two heads. "Well, can't we stop the race for a minute so we can catch up? That's only fair." "Well... we tried stopping the race before. Some of the runners in the first heat caught up. A few even passed 'em up. But the judges are leaning towards not letting that happen again. The feeling is that it's your own fault that you got here late... they were right on time, so they by rights get the head start. After all, *they* didn't make you late, did they?" This is nearly the last straw for them. They don't mention the fact that they didn't qualify for the race until a few moments before. We all overlook it politely. "And you expect us to run?" they say. "Not only that, you must run. There is no other option. And not only must you run, you've got to win. Injuries, late start, and all. You have *got* to win, win fair, and win every time. You'll have to run twice as fast, grin and bear the pain too. They may even change the rules in the middle of the race. But you must win." "You're crazy!" "I know. I also know you can do it." "How can you be so sure?" My reply is not in words. I unzip my coach's jacket. They see a red- white-and-blue ribbon... and the glint of a gold medallion. You see, I love my students so much because just a short time ago, I was one of them. I'm not sure what saved me from death and injury and teen pregnancy and STDs and (the most common disease of all here) despair and hopelessness and counterproductivity--whether it was Mama or Daddy or the care of a loving Creator or teachers who didn't assume all urban kids were stupid or something innate or a combination of all those things, I don't know. But magic just about sums it up, don't you think? :-) This is why I fight tooth and nail to teach my curriculum undiluted. These kids need to be able to think on their feet, they must be creative, and they must be able to dream. They're good children--and I want them to grow up to become good people. On top of that, I want them to *earn* good standardized test scores and report card grades--the icing on the cake. When the script tells you constantly that you and people like you are stupid, that your school system is failing and can't produce any decent graduates, and all sorts of other negative things, it's always nice to have your refutation of the propaganda in black and white. When the book *The Bell Curve* was published and publicized, I didn't get mad... I just thought of my SAT scores and grinned. I want my students to be able to do the same thing. Re-reading this post, I am sure that it was pointless. I've both said too much and said not nearly enough. There are just some things that can't be explained... like magic. Take heart, Scott. There's hope for my students after all. And thanks so much for your post... think of us fondly, and send a prayer our way. We need as many as we can get. --Ebony AKA AngieJ From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 11:28:49 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:28:49 +0000 Subject: This one's over the top/Ms Laura's Religion In-Reply-To: <98a0am+ri38@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Kelley wrote: > Yeah, I remember this. I seem to recall that this was a much longer > essay, with several examples of 'drug use' in SS; wonder why they > didn't post the full version? When I first saw it, it was on that > Family Friendly Libraries site, but when I went there just now, none > of the HP-related articles come up. Too bad; you wouldn't believe > how bizarre some of it got. These articles just leave me totally > dumbfounded, sad, and more than a little frightened.... Oh, right. It's from Family Friendly Libraries. ::people all over the list roll their eyes:: I'm sure we've discussed these delightful people at length in the past and decided that they haven't even *read* the books, but are going on what their televangelistesque (now ain't that a fine wurd?) Purveyors of Faith tell them. Yawn. MS LAURA and her religion Erg. Somehow I always forget to put "Judeo-" in front of "Christian" where Ms Laura's concerned. ::embarrassed look:: Guess I'm just so used to having to defend myself to Christians that it's second nature. Sorry about the oversight. --John ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 11:48:22 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:48:22 +0000 Subject: Pictures of Neil in hairnet & bunny slippers In-Reply-To: <98afhs+thco@eGroups.com> Message-ID: pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: >> BTW ... the first 200 to join get an autographed picture of Neil in his >> hairnet and bunny slippers. Doreen >> > I'm on both lists--among the first to join, btw. When can I expect my > picture? Just as soon as you send off your GBP 99.99 administration fee to: HPFGU Promotions Rock and Roll Enterprises 4 Magnolia Crescent Great Whinging Slurry BS4 2CU ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// Rock and Roll Enterprises: for all your geological and automotive needs. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From hamster8 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 11:56:46 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:56:46 -0000 Subject: Pictures of Neil in hairnet & bunny slippers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98agdu+ub67@eGroups.com> John said ... > Just as soon as you send off your GBP 99.99 administration fee to: > > HPFGU Promotions > Rock and Roll Enterprises > 4 Magnolia Crescent > Great Whinging > Slurry > BS4 2CU I'll thank you not to insult the fine upstanding county that is my home ... though sometimes even I get sick of Surrey ... hey, it's easily done! *Al saunters vaguely westwards* From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 9 12:42:18 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:42:18 -0000 Subject: Ebony's Post Message-ID: <98aj3a+2qm2@eGroups.com> Ebony, Your post made me cry--it also made me angry (again!) that some kids, who are probably just as smart as other kids, have to play catch-up all their lives, simply because of where they were born or the colour of their skin. It also made me proud that you (and other teachers) are trying their darndest to make up the difference. I see similar things in Charleston. Yes, we're a tourist town. But there are also *extremely* poor folk here, a lot of them living on America Street, which is in the run-down part of town. There *has* been some work done on the dilapitated houses *without* making them unaffordable to the very people they were meant to house. (another Charleston problem. Refurbish the houses, then price them out of reach for the 'masses') I The tourists never see that part of Charleston, of course. I see kids who come to Middleton Place on field trips very skeptical about the whole experience. Then I start talking about the enslaved Africans and African-Americans who *made* this place--I speak about their strength, their belief in magic, their very real belief that 'you can enslave my body, but you can't enslave my mind.' I've had kids go from utter mistrust and total skepticism that I, as a white person, can teach them anything. By the end of their time with me, we're talking together like old friends. I hope I can give them hope, I hope I can give them magic. I'm not in class with them day after day, so I don't know if I do. But I do see the kids when they come in, some of them hunched into themselves. I see them when they leave, walking just a little taller. I like to think I've helped them in some small way to do that. Parker From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 9 13:12:16 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:12:16 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pictures of Neil in hairnet & bunny slippers References: Message-ID: <007101c0a89a$a5288520$b53670c2@c5s910j> Paparazza Doreen wrote, advertorially: <> Parker said, expectantly: <>> John then said enterprisingly: > Just as soon as you send off your GBP 99.99 administration fee to: > > HPFGU Promotions > Rock and Roll Enterprises > 4 Magnolia Crescent > Great Whinging > Slurry > BS4 2CU *** Hey, GUYS, I just downloaded these photos from The Bunny Slipper Galleries and uploaded them illegally to the new HPfGU-ModeratorsInCompromisingPositions club!! Who cares about breaches of copyright!! Check them out!!! Kewl!!!! "In this, first, admittedly grainy, zoom shot, Naked Ford Anglia relaxes at the poolside with an unidentified male companion. In the corner of the picture, you can just make out a House-Elf holding a tray of drinks and wearing a leather cushion cover:" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 0Poses/Neilinthenude.jpg "This is a shot of FFA leaving Thingfellers nightclub in the company of Jude Law, Liz Taylor, that bloke who's on "Eastenders" and a staggering giantess in black velvet robes. Note the hopeful look on his turquoise face and the decorative, beaded hairnet:" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 0Poses/Neilcaughtredhanded.jpg "This final shot shows the Mechanimagus sitting by the fireside of his Hogsmeade cottage, with faithful companion Rex resting his head on the infamous bunny slippers. The couple's dog, Celine, is also visible, gnawing on a copy of "Magical Me" and you can see what appears to be the head of Severus Snape in the fireplace, possibly in the throes of inviting them all over for one of his legendary Candlelight Suppers:" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 0Poses/Neilbythefire.jpg Misty Moongoddess, 103% HP obsessed!!! Why does no one check out my new website?: http://www.harrypotterforcheerleaders.promqueen.com ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Fri Mar 9 15:15:42 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:15:42 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Magic, Kids, and Detroit--long anecdote References: <98a4q9+kj7h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <006d01c0a8ac$f20db600$d040063e@tmeltcds> Oh, wow , Ebony. I am not crying but I am just amazed by your post. I can't pretend to understand what it's like to live in Detroit. I live in a middle class commuter belt area 45 minutes away from London. But your post is a real eye opener. You are truly gifted at giving a Limey like me an idea of what life is like for you. Someday you will be very famous for writing like that. Michelle From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 9 15:39:24 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:39:24 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Pictures of Neil in hairnet & bunny slippers References: <007101c0a89a$a5288520$b53670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <3AA8F92B.FF45AF40@texas.net> Naughty, naughty, to tease us so! Promising us house-elves in leather and then not delivering! ...oh, were YOU in the shot? sorry.... --Amanda Neil Ward wrote: > Paparazza Doreen wrote, advertorially: > > < his > hairnet and bunny slippers.>> > > Parker said, expectantly: > > < my > picture? >> > > John then said enterprisingly: > > > Just as soon as you send off your GBP 99.99 administration fee to: > > > > HPFGU Promotions > > Rock and Roll Enterprises > > 4 Magnolia Crescent > > Great Whinging > > Slurry > > BS4 2CU > > *** > > Hey, GUYS, I just downloaded these photos from The Bunny Slipper > Galleries > and uploaded them illegally to the new > HPfGU-ModeratorsInCompromisingPositions club!! Who cares about > breaches of > copyright!! Check them out!!! Kewl!!!! > > "In this, first, admittedly grainy, zoom shot, Naked Ford Anglia > relaxes at > the poolside with an unidentified male companion. In the corner of > the > picture, you can just make out a House-Elf holding a tray of drinks > and > wearing a leather cushion cover:" > > > ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 > > 0Poses/Neilinthenude.jpg > > "This is a shot of FFA leaving Thingfellers nightclub in the company > of Jude > Law, Liz Taylor, that bloke who's on "Eastenders" and a staggering > giantess > in black velvet robes. Note the hopeful look on his turquoise face > and the > decorative, beaded hairnet:" > > > ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 > > 0Poses/Neilcaughtredhanded.jpg > > "This final shot shows the Mechanimagus sitting by the fireside of his > > Hogsmeade cottage, with faithful companion Rex resting his head on the > > infamous bunny slippers. The couple's dog, Celine, is also visible, > gnawing > on a copy of "Magical Me" and you can see what appears to be the head > of > Severus Snape in the fireplace, possibly in the throes of inviting > them all > over for one of his legendary Candlelight Suppers:" > > > ttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGUModeratorsInCompromisingPositions/Saucy%2 > > 0Poses/Neilbythefire.jpg > > Misty Moongoddess, 103% HP obsessed!!! > > Why does no one check out my new website?: > http://www.harrypotterforcheerleaders.promqueen.com > > ________________________________________ > > flying_ford_anglia > > "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, > was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint > of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] > > Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything > to do with this club: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Click Here!] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailVI.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailO5.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From ajpresto at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 16:03:43 2001 From: ajpresto at yahoo.com (Andrew Preston) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:03:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Comic Relief books - already available in South Wales! In-Reply-To: <98983n+hici@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010309160343.8854.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Figured I should post this here-no real bearing on HP. Steve: > Well, here in Grand Rapids, Michigan, none of the bookstores will be > selling the books until Monday. They are not allowed to, although > they do have them in the back. I told them I would be happy to buy > them early if they cared to slit open one of the boxes, but no dice. > The clerks were all just about as eager as I was to read them, but > they said they were required to wait until Monday. I worked in a department store during the time that _Toy Story_ came out on video tape. I saw a copy of the contract that our store signed with Disney. For each store, for each copy of the video sold early, the company would be fined $5000. Imagine selling it early and them finding out! It'd be outrageous fines for something (in this case) that costs $10. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From joy0823 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 9 16:22:18 2001 From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:22:18 -0500 Subject: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke References: <984125819.592.43608.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <004701c0a8b5$1d730cc0$0100000a@joywelan> John wrote: It's the usual American Moralist Christian stuff -- gay people are evil, so are non-Christians, (especially Wiccans), premarital sex sends you to hell. Believe it or not, Dr. Laura is Jewish. I wholeheartedly regret having to claim her as one of the tribe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "Austin Powers" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "HP and the Sorcerer's Stone" by JK Rowling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From joy0823 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 9 16:25:32 2001 From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:25:32 -0500 Subject: That Great Dr Laura joke Message-ID: <004d01c0a8b5$911519c0$0100000a@joywelan> Oops, sorry. I really need to finish reading my digests before replying. Back to lurking for me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "Austin Powers" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "HP and the Sorcerer's Stone" by JK Rowling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 16:33:31 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:33:31 -0000 Subject: Magic, Kids, and Detroit--long anecdote In-Reply-To: <98a4q9+kj7h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98b0kr+r27i@eGroups.com> Ebony wrote: *Insert wonderful, touching, and inspiring post* Take heart, Scott. There's hope for my students after all. And thanks so much for your post... think of us fondly, and send a prayer our way. We need as many as we can get." --Oh Ebony that was wonderful. I was sad, and happy and everything at the same time when I read that. I feel now that I have a view, if only a tiny one into how these kids are living. Thank you for sharing. I love your writing it truly coveys a sense of power and emotion that I could only hope to one day acheive.. But I can't really understand your post, I can't relate to it. I'm growing up in a small town, upper-middle class. My life has never really been in the positions of those kids, and I wont pretend to be able to relate to them. We'd argue that they should never have to face what they do everyday, but if they listen to you and others who understand them they'll come out better for trying. Yes, you have my prayers. Scott From joy0823 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 9 17:10:38 2001 From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:10:38 -0500 Subject: Obsessed Quiz? Message-ID: <006b01c0a8bb$ddab0fa0$0100000a@joywelan> Could someone re-post the link to the obsessed quiz everyone's been taking? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "Austin Powers" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "HP and the Sorcerer's Stone" by JK Rowling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:50:49 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:50:49 -0000 Subject: Railroad doors again In-Reply-To: <97atal+s889@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98b55p+3h7i@eGroups.com> pengolodh_sc: Reading the last train scene in GoF, it seems almost certain that there is no door between the compartment and the platform. The Weasleys et al. drag Crabbe, Goyle, and Malfoy out into the corridor; then, at the end of the journey, they step out over them with their trunks. The pleasure of another opportunity to step on C, G, & M notwithstanding, it seems unlikely that they would struggle out through the jammed corridor if they could just go out from the compartment to the platform directly. What do you think? Amy Z From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Fri Mar 9 17:54:16 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:54:16 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT even for here [Fwd: The "Number" of the Beast...] Message-ID: <9f.12480281.27da72c8@aol.com> The Barney arguments are quite compelling, but I'm remaining open minded on this controversy! AFAIK there are three candidates for the AntiChrist position: Barney, Bill Gates and David Hasselhoff. Here's a link to the Gates evidence: http://egomania.nu/gates.html And a link to the Hasselhoff evidence: http://www.esquilax.com/baywatch/index.shtml With tongue very firmly planted in cheek, Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:56:18 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:56:18 -0000 Subject: This one's over the top In-Reply-To: <3AA840C0.5BE7D11@texas.net> Message-ID: <98b5g2+m5st@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Ooooh, guys, you ain't seen nothin' yet. I saw a reference to this > article and just *had* to chase it down. Unbelievable. And frightening. > I wish I could think the author was doing a parody of anti-HP stuff, but > I think he's serious. Oh man. Taking bets: how many people think this man's kids are going to be addicted to drugs by age 15? He is obsessed. Though Snape does look a little strung-out, now that I think about it... Amy Z From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 18:35:15 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:35:15 -0000 Subject: Bad Train Memories (was Re: Railroad doors again) In-Reply-To: <98b55p+3h7i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98b7p3+dnng@eGroups.com> Amy Z wrote: "Reading the last train scene in GoF, it seems almost certain that there is no door between the compartment and the platform. The Weasleys et al. drag Crabbe, Goyle, and Malfoy out into the corridor; then, at the end of the journey, they step out over them with their trunks. The pleasure of another opportunity to step on C, G, & M notwithstanding, it seems unlikely that they would struggle out through the jammed corridor if they could just go out from the compartment to the platform directly." --I think that the Hogwarts Express is in the following lay out __door___________________________door___ win win win W W W W ____door_____door____door__ <-Hallway-> __door___________________________door___ With the W standing for wall win standing for window and door standing for erm, door. That is the best drawing I could do with the keyboard so I hope that you can figure it out. The compartments would have seats on either side with luggage racks overhead. Not like the train that I modeled it after which was one I rode in France. (Not a good experience. In fact I've never had a good experience on a train.) We were in Paris and I was scared to death the train would leave me. It was also an over night journey in which the bunks stacked up three on either side. Wonderfully cramped sleeping quarters :-) (I'd even take the Knight Bus over it!) It was an interesting experience though. Picture this- a queue of people waiting to use the loo to brush their teeth, (using bottled water, of course!) and the loo door swinging back an forth and everyone sliding around on a slick wet (and dirty) train floor, and bracing themselves as not to fall... Scott It's a hilarious memory actually, and probably the nicest of my train experiences. That's right you DON'T want to know. From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 9 19:19:16 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:19:16 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Obsessed Quiz? References: <006b01c0a8bb$ddab0fa0$0100000a@joywelan> Message-ID: <000901c0a8cd$d7304200$6d14a3d1@doreen> Could someone re-post the link to the obsessed quiz everyone's been taking? Thanks! ~Joy~ You can take the Harry Potter obsession quiz at: http://www.fuuko.com/hpquiz.html Doreen, who is 65% obsessed w/HP (and 100% obsessed w/Robbie Coltrane) From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 21:48:41 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:48:41 +0000 Subject: [HPforGrownups] Pagans read Potter! In-Reply-To: <20010309150443.8556.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Andrew Preston wrote: > I've been lurking for a bit, but had to make this comment... > Aha! Proof that Pagans read Potter. It's obviously geared to Pagans! Ahh! > And I'm an Atheist. Oh no! Now it's crossing religious beliefs. Well, us in the "going straight to Hay-ull" community are just a-rubbing our little sweaty paws over all that new blood we're going to have available to drink in our Evil Sacrificial Rites. Just think, no more going to the supermarket for pig's blood! John, off to go sharpen his Sacrificial Sword of Satire ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 23:15:16 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:15:16 -0600 Subject: Michael Knight as Antichrist... References: <9f.12480281.27da72c8@aol.com> Message-ID: <010c01c0a8ee$cdbd6c40$10ccfea9@computer> I fully agree with you! :) Of course, my ex is named Michael Knight, so I'm biased???? Grins... Thanks for these smile-invoking few posts! Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] OT even for here [Fwd: The "Number" of the Beast...] The Barney arguments are quite compelling, but I'm remaining open minded on this controversy! AFAIK there are three candidates for the AntiChrist position: Barney, Bill Gates and David Hasselhoff. Here's a link to the Gates evidence: http://egomania.nu/gates.html And a link to the Hasselhoff evidence: http://www.esquilax.com/baywatch/index.shtml With tongue very firmly planted in cheek, Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 9 23:18:19 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:18:19 -0000 Subject: Was ist das? Message-ID: <98bobr+8hs2@eGroups.com> I just got my Outlook Express working again, and this turned up in my mailbox today. It was from eulenpost, to weasleyginny (who is not me), and the subject was Ubersetzung PoU (with an umlaut over the the 'u' in uber...etc.) Anyone else get this in their mail? Can anyone tell me what it's about? Here it is: Liebe ?bersetzerin, lieber ?bersetzer! Du hattest Dich f?r die ?bersetzung der amerikanischen HP-Fan-Stories eingetragen und auch einen Kapitelteil von Paradigm of Uncertainty zugeteilt bekommen. Leider ist bei uns noch keine ?bersetzung von Dir eingetroffen! Wir sind gerade dabei, die ?bersetzten Kapitel von PoU zusammenzusetzen und w?rden von daher gerne wissen, ob wir demn?chst mit Deiner ?bersetzung rechnen k?nnen oder ob Du es nicht mehr schaffst. Bitte gib uns schnell Bescheid, damit wir notfalls Deinen Teil weiter vergeben k?nnen! Mit magischen Gr??en Sophie vom HaD-Team Me again: All I get from this are the most obvious words, otherwise I'm lost. Can anyone help? Thanks... Kelley -- nicht Frau, ich bin madchen.... :oP (I know that's wrong, but you get the gist...) From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 9 23:28:26 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:28:26 -0000 Subject: This one's over the top/Ms Laura's Religion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98bouq+riqe@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > John: > Oh, right. It's from Family Friendly Libraries. ::people all over the list roll their eyes:: I'm sure we've discussed these delightful people at length in the past and decided that they haven't even *read* the books, but are going on what their televangelistesque (now ain't that a fine wurd?) Purveyors of Faith tell them. Yawn. <<<<<<< You are correct, sir. (That should sound like Phil Hartman's Ed McMahon impression, for anyone who might get that...) > John: > MS LAURA and her religion > > Erg. Somehow I always forget to put "Judeo-" in front of "Christian" where Ms Laura's concerned. ::embarrassed look:: Guess I'm just so used to having to defend myself to Christians that it's second nature. Sorry about the oversight. <<<<<<<<<<<< Heehee, there are so many other adjectives (and a few nouns) that I put in front of her name. Isn't it nice not to have to defend yourself here?... Kelley From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 9 23:37:27 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:37:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Was ist das? In-Reply-To: <98bobr+8hs2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Kelley wrote: > I just got my Outlook Express working again, and this turned up in my > mailbox today. It was from eulenpost, to weasleyginny (who is not > me), and the subject was Ubersetzung PoU (with an umlaut over the > the 'u' in uber...etc.) Anyone else get this in their mail? Can > anyone tell me what it's about? Here it is: Kelley, I can't tell you why you got this, but I can translate it for you. > Liebe ?bersetzerin, lieber ?bersetzer! Dear translater, > Du hattest Dich f?r die ?bersetzung der amerikanischen > HP-Fan-Stories eingetragen und auch einen Kapitelteil von Paradigm > of Uncertainty zugeteilt bekommen. You registered yourself for the translation of the American HPfanfic and have also received a part of a chapter of PoU. > Leider ist bei uns noch keine ?bersetzung von Dir eingetroffen! Unfortunately we haven't received a translation from you. > Wir sind gerade dabei, die ?bersetzten Kapitel von PoU > zusammenzusetzen und w?rden von daher gerne wissen, ob wir demn?chst > mit Deiner ?bersetzung rechnen k?nnen oder ob Du es nicht mehr > schaffst. We're almost ready to put together the translated chapter of PoU and would like to know whether we can soon count on your translation or whether you aren't going to finish it. > Bitte gib uns schnell Bescheid, damit wir notfalls Deinen Teil weiter > vergeben k?nnen! Please notify us quickly, so that we can give your part to someone else if need be. > Mit magischen Gr??en > Sophie vom HaD-Team With magical greetings [aw, that's cute] Sophie from the HaD [?] Team > > Me again: All I get from this are the most obvious words, otherwise > I'm lost. Can anyone help? Thanks... --jen :) From john at walton.to Fri Mar 9 23:43:45 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:43:45 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Was ist das? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jen Faulkner wrote: Gee, Jen, as the little droid in Star Wars said, "How many languages do you speak?" Latin, German...Baluchistani as a hobby? Esperanto? Klingon? --John, who knows bits of quite a few languages but can't translate anything but French. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 9 23:46:23 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:46:23 -0000 Subject: Was ist das? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98bq0f+iacq@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Jen Faulkner wrote: > Kelley, I can't tell you why you got this, but I can translate it for you. > > Dear translater, > > > You registered yourself for the translation of the American HPfanfic and have also received a part of a chapter of PoU. > Unfortunately we haven't received a translation from you. > We're almost ready to put together the translated chapter of PoU and > would like to know whether we can soon count on your translation or > whether you aren't going to finish it. > Please notify us quickly, so that we can give your part to someone else if need be. > > With magical greetings [aw, that's cute] > Sophie from the HaD [?] Team > > > --jen :) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Wow! Is that what that said?! Thanks, Jen. I appreciate it. I have no idea how this happened, but suppose I better try to contact them... Thanks again, Kelley From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Fri Mar 9 23:54:02 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:54:02 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sorta movie stuff Message-ID: I'm being forced to work late on a Friday night. :( So to amuse myself I'm playing with email and my hsx account ... and it occurred to me to ask if any of y'all play the hsx (hollywood stock exchange - www.hsx.com) and if you do, do you own stock in the HP movies and when did you buy it? I forgot to buy my stock in HP1 until fairly recently, when it was already over $100/share. Boy I hope someone other than me knows what I'm talking about! Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 10 00:28:22 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:28:22 -0000 Subject: Was ist das? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98bsf6+q0h3@eGroups.com> John wrote: > > Gee, Jen, as the little droid in Star Wars said, "How many languages do you > speak?" Latin, German...Baluchistani as a hobby? Esperanto? Klingon? > I have Klingon among my fonts, but I'm afraid to use it in case I inadvertently inform a Klingon that his mother is a prostitute on a Ferengi cruiser. Amy Z likewise impressed by Jen From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 10 00:29:48 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:29:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jen's amazing, incredible, stupendous language abilities *g* (was Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Was ist das?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, John Walton wrote: > Gee, Jen, as the little droid in Star Wars said, "How many languages > do you speak?" I an fluent in over six million forms of communication... *g* I kid, of course. The only language I actually speak well ('sides 'Merican) is German. I read Latin and Greek well (and could probably, if the time vortex sucked me in, get along okay in Rome speaking). I read French passably, but any attempt to have a conversation that doesn't involve my name, how old I am, or where I'm from (baby French *g*) would be, well, sad. I speak Spanish well enough to get by; I can read it just fine. I can understand some Italian, but I can't really speak it; I can read it with some difficulty. I can read modern Greek well enough, but I can't understand it really at all (the great vowel collapse into [i] and so on). But, on the plus side, I know how to swear in all of the above, except modern Greek. I have an active command of about eight words in Italian, and half of them are obscene. *shakes head sadly* For shame, I know. *g* (Latin, Greek, German, and French are all requirements for a PhD in Classics... no choice about learning those... don't be so impressed!) --jen, the polyglot :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 10 02:22:08 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:22:08 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <98c34h+egf4@eGroups.com> Here are my contributions to the Swiftie list. I should have been doing my Medicaid billing at the time, but this was much more fun. "My new bunny slippers feel wonderful," said Neville sensationally. "I'll be there in a second," said Harry briefly. "That was fast," said Ron fleetingly. "Potter catches the Snitch!" shouted Lee Jordan winningly. "Only 39 presents?" whined Dudley piggishly. "Why, they're Cornish pixies," said Lockhart sprightly. "How do you like my new robes, Minerva?" asked Severus silkily. Trina From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 10 03:00:48 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 03:00:48 -0000 Subject: Ebony's post Message-ID: <98c5d0+iet5@eGroups.com> First of all, Ebony, let me join the others who have told you how beautiful and touching your post is. I was reminded of *my* kids down here in the Carolinas (both North and South--I've lived and worked in both places) who are starting the race after the bell already rang. At the first place I worked I had a Kindergartner (waif-like, big blue eyes, terrible haircut) who always got out of line in the hallway to hug me. Getting out of line is a big no-no, but her teacher never fussed at her-I think she knew she didn't get many hugs at home. The Friday before Mother's Day she came up and hugged me in the lunchroom and said "My daddy kicked my mama out of the house and we made Mother's Days cards this morning and I cried." I didn't know what to say, I mean, who *would*, but I gave her an extra hug. I did home health too, and some of those houses were not to be believed. I could always tell when one family wasn't home because the door was padlocked shut. One child was 4 years old and she'd been chewing tobacco since she was 2. Ask me if this was a choice the child made! The kids I saw loved to see me coming--I was the lady with the big blue bag of toys and games. I read a lot to my kids; I think in many cases mama and daddy couldn't. I was one-on- one attention from a grown-up who played with them, something they didn't see much of. Here I have one 1st grader who wants to come to speech every day. Last Friday she asked if I was going to see her. I said, " I see the girls (in her class) on Monday and Wednesday and the boys on Tuesday and Thursdays, and on Fridays..." "You see me!" she finished for me. Again, one-on-one attention from an adult who pays attention to her. I worry about them and love them and try to show them how special I think they are, even when I am giving my Super-mean chair lecture #25 (Rock that chair back on two legs one more time and you'll stand for the rest of speech time!) Trina, who can't imagine doing anything else for a paycheck. From rboswell at mediaone.net Sat Mar 10 03:07:19 2001 From: rboswell at mediaone.net (Rebecca Boswell) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:07:19 -0500 Subject: Ebony... References: <984181589.1126.29156.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <000d01c0a90f$41c97820$d32c2241@se.mediaone.net> Ebony-- You are amazing. That was a wonderful post, and it made me cry! Magic or not, you are brilliant. I'm sitting here sobbing...and I'd better shut up before I wake up my parents...;-) You have this awesome ability to put feelings into words, and I can *feel* your frustration and hope and sorrow and faith. I may not be an urban teen, but I have so many friends that are going through all that you described. You're changing the world, Ebony. By helping all of those kids you're changing their lives, and it's so much for the better. I'm sure you can remember that one teacher that said something that stuck with you for your life, even now. You are that special person to so many, and I really hope you're proud of yourself. You just taught me something I'll never forget, ever. Some day some famous publisher is going to read that and you're going to go down in history. ::runs over to hug Ebony, and then pops back into her room to get another tissue:: Becca, who is printing out Ebony's post to put in her scrapbook. From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 10 03:25:24 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 03:25:24 -0000 Subject: Ebony's and Trina's posts Message-ID: <98c6r4+kbff@eGroups.com> You both manage to make me feel very priviliged to hvae grown up in such a place as I did, and most complaints from my childhood really trivial by comparison. We don't really have big cities in my country, only some towns that are very, very large, and so I cannot truly relate to what you are talking about. Yet, in a way I also can, through you're writing, which puts images in my head. Best regards Christian Stub? Incidentally, HaD means "Harry auf Deutsch", or "Harry in German" - it is the name of the translator-team, which probably operates in a realm of very different copyright-rules. From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 10 03:50:39 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:50:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: [HPforGrownups] Pagans read Potter! References: Message-ID: <3AA9A48F.9524B73A@texas.net> John Walton wrote: > > Aha! Proof that Pagans read Potter. It's obviously geared to Pagans! > Ahh! > > And I'm an Atheist. Oh no! Now it's crossing religious beliefs. > > Well, us in the "going straight to Hay-ull" community are just > a-rubbing our little sweaty paws over all that new blood we're going > to have available to drink in our Evil Sacrificial Rites. Just think, > no more going to the supermarket for pig's blood! You amateurs. We drink blood every week, but *we* make ours by *magic* (and it also tastes loads better, lots less salty). I think that's one of the reasons we Catholics are going straight to Hay-ull, too. That and the Pope. --Amanda, Catholic (remembering that wonderful top-of-the-train exchange from Gandhi: "Ah! You are Christian. My cousin is Christian. He drinks blood." ::shocked look on Christian man's face:: then "Every Sunday, blood of Christ." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sat Mar 10 03:52:30 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 03:52:30 -0000 Subject: Gryffins... In-Reply-To: <989ffv+h25l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98c8du+3qtn@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > Also is that Welsh around the > side of the coin? It's not latin. Can anyone tell me what it means. > > "Pleidiol Wyf I'm Gwlad" It is Welsh, it means (roughly, my welsh is not 100%, or even 20%) "We all give blood for our country (wales)" It's from the chorus of the Welsh national anthem. Dai From pbnesbit at msn.com Sat Mar 10 04:02:20 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:02:20 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifty Message-ID: <98c90c+f5d7@eGroups.com> In a valiant effort to cheer me up after Trina's post, here's my humble contribution: 'Let me out of here!' Hedwig hooted cagily Peace & Plenty, Parker PS: I think--no, I am *absolutely convinced* that teachers, no matter where they teach, should be getting MD's wages. From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 04:30:30 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:30:30 -0000 Subject: Ebony's and Trina's posts In-Reply-To: <98c6r4+kbff@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98cal6+pjpi@eGroups.com> Well at least we're all getting a little bit of that everyday magic I was talking about. Everyone's having a good cry! But take heart you guys because I'm not sure whether this is a cry of joy, or sorrow. Sorrow because as humans we've allowed such situations to happen, or joy because there are people who are truly making a difference (like Ebony and Trina and countless others!) Seriouly I can only hope that when I'm grown I can find a way to share myself with others in a way that will touch them and hopefully improve their lives. After all isn't that why we're here? Thanks to Ebony and Trina for sharing. A big collective thank you to ALL teachers, they are the true heros of the world. In a way we're all teachers... Scott ______________________________________________________________________ "So basically it's all good. Whatever happened is good as long as we've learnt something. It's only bad if we didn't learn: "Who am I? Where am I going? Where have I come from?" -George Harrison From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sat Mar 10 04:32:01 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:32:01 -0000 Subject: Ebony's and Trina's posts In-Reply-To: <98c6r4+kbff@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98cao1+pc1f@eGroups.com> Well, I haven't worked in an urban setting, the houses/trailers I always visited were in rural settings, surrounded by cotton and tobacco fields and swamps. "Go down the dirt road just past the tobacco barn and we're the only doublewide on the road." Yeah, these are directions that can get me where I need to be. My best set of directions included the phrase "You know that store where that girl got shot? I'm in the third grey trailer on the left." I never realized how privileged I was till home health... Trina From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 10 04:40:31 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 22:40:31 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ebony's and Trina's posts References: <98cal6+pjpi@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AA9B03E.B17CC71E@texas.net> Scott wrote: > Seriouly I can only hope that when I'm grown I can find a way to share > myself with others in a way that will touch them and hopefully improve > their lives. After all isn't that why we're here? Thanks to Ebony and > Trina for sharing. A big collective thank you to ALL teachers, they > are the true heros of the world. In a way we're all teachers... "Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succor of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." --Gandalf, speaking in vol. 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Mine has been acting up for the last 2 weeks. Now I can only get a few moments at a time on my email before it freezes. Hopefully I get this one sent . > > I was also pleased when Sheryll's tape of CoS > *finally* showed up after WHSmiths Online sent me > the book instead (so, Sheryll, you will be getting > them very soon!). I returned the book to a nearby > WHSmiths' store as instructed, but it soon became > clear that WHSmiths have no system in place to > confirm that incorrect items have been returned. > They simply send out the correct item and trust the > purchaser to return the wrong one! So, if anyone > else gets sent the wrong thing by WHSmiths Online, > keep it. The stupid article who served me in the > shop also tried to recredit my card for the book I > was returning ! I'm annoyingly honest, so I pointed > out her stupidity. However, if I had a criminal > bent, I could have profited to the tune of one > harback copy of CoS and 10.99 added to my debit > card. > > Neil Thanks again, I really appreciate the favour. I'm looking forward to these tapes, and so is my boss. She wants to lend them to a blind friend who can't seem to find them at the lending library of the CNIB (Canadian National Insitute for the Blind). Of course, I'll have to have a couple dozend listens before I part with them ! Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From simon at hp.inbox.as Sat Mar 10 09:13:28 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:13:28 -0000 Subject: Comic Relief Books and Hedwig Message-ID: Hello, I went out shopping yesterday and found that some shops (WHSmiths) were already selling the two comic relief books (Quidditch Through The Ages and Fantastic Beasts). Annoyingly I haven't had time to read them both yet (fell asleep with FB last night). Also while shopping I got a Hedwig ornament thing. The one with her, wings spread, on a stack of textbooks. It now sits on the edge of my computer and I may decide to get some more if I find any others that I like. I do have a bit of a complaint thought. That lump of plastic that comes with it, the one that includes a little bit about Hedwig is annoyingly difficult to read. I spent ages trying to work out how to make it easy to view what was written. Eventually I found that holding it up to the light worked best. Simon -- "I was a workaholic. I was up to three bottles of workahol a day." - Paul Merton --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon at hp.inbox.as Sat Mar 10 14:55:03 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:55:03 -0000 Subject: JKR Chat - correction Message-ID: Taken off HPforGU - it is not really on topic. Heidi: "There will be an online chat with J K Rowling on Monday, March 12th at 5:35 GMT (12:35 ET). You can send in questions now - the e-mail address is - rnd at bbc.co.uk" Doreen: <<>>> The email address should be: rndchat at bbc.co.uk Remember to put 'Question for JK Rowling' as the subject line. A small amount of information is available at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rednoseday/jkrowling.shtml Simon -- " Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups - alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From john at walton.to Sat Mar 10 15:43:06 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:43:06 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: JKR Chat - correction In-Reply-To: <026c01c0a977$e773c420$0314a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: Doreen wrote: > The announcement of the address was on HPFGU > The fact that that address is wrong got put on OT > The corrected address is announced in OT > > Why was the first letter not put on OT ... or if it was ON topic, why are > the other two letters not? Hi from the Mods again :) The confusion here stems from the fact that all HPFGU-Announcements posts are being cross-posted to the main HPforGrownups list until the Announcements list is completely up and running -- and everybody's joined. Normally, the procedure would be as follows: 1) Announcement posted to HPFGU-Announcements 2) Problem with emails posted to HPFGU-OTChatter 3) Solution to problem posted to HPFGU-OTChatter. The only difference in this case is that HPforGrownups was used instead of HPFGU-Announcements. Hope this helps, --John ________________________________________________ John "Diet Coke Addict" Walton john at walton.to =| HPforGrownups Moderator With Rock #47 =| The Moderators say: "Do you want a better career? Sure, we all do. So read the Very FAQ and Make More Money!" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm ________________________________________________ From pennylin at swbell.net Sat Mar 10 15:52:25 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:52:25 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR Chat - correction References: <026c01c0a977$e773c420$0314a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3AAA4DB9.2689169D@swbell.net> Hi -- Doreen wrote: > See? here we go again .. > > The announcement of the address was on HPFGU > The fact that that address is wrong got put on OT > The corrected address is announced in OT > > Why was the first letter not put on OT ... or if it was ON topic, why > are > the other two letters not? I think it should all have been put in Announcements. :--) Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joannec at lisp.com.au Sat Mar 10 12:22:34 2001 From: joannec at lisp.com.au (Joanne Collins) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:22:34 +1100 Subject: Um...what's a Tom Swiftie? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010310232234.007eb550@mail.lisp.com.au> Subject line says it all...what are they, please? A confuzzled Joanne. From joannec at lisp.com.au Sat Mar 10 16:56:43 2001 From: joannec at lisp.com.au (Joanne Collins) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:56:43 +1100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Recreation In-Reply-To: <984009119.2891.15327.l6@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010311035643.007ca150@mail.lisp.com.au> >What are the most common forms of recreation in England, and >elsewhere in the world? In other words, what would you do on a >date, or hanging out with friends? Gosh, not very much. It's Saturday night as I answer this, and I'm just home from a typically exciting Saturday in small town Australia. Tonight I had a meal with some friends, and we went back to their place to watch a video (Chasing Amy, I'd already seen it but loved it so much I was happy enough to watch it again). We had a couple of glasses of wine, and did microwave popcorn to munch while we watched the movie. Sometimes we go out to the pub and drink, listen to music when there's a band. Sometimes we play board games. I'm rather good at Trivial Pursuit, if I say so myself. Joanne. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 10 17:26:22 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:26:22 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Um...what's a Tom Swiftie? References: <3.0.6.32.20010310232234.007eb550@mail.lisp.com.au> Message-ID: <030401c0a987$3b6185e0$0314a3d1@doreen> Subject line says it all...what are they, please? A confuzzled Joanne. A Tom Swiftie is a sentence created to be a play on words. Jim Flanagan got all of us hooked on them with his letter: Does anybody remember "Tom Swifties?" These little one-liners were popular, along with elephant jokes and Spoonerisms, back when I was in junior high school. It shouldn't be necessary to explain how they work -- just take a look at these examples from Harry Potter's universe: "I'm over here, Hermione, under the invisibility cloak," whispered Harry, transparently. "Meow!" said Cruikshanks, catagorically. "Do you like my new dress robes?" asked Fleur, figuratively. "You must put the lacewings in *before* the axolotl, Longbottom!" Snape said explosively. "Avada, uh... how does that go again?" said Goyle, cursorily. "I've lost my finger!" cried Pettigrew, pointlessly. (with apologies to Elizabeth Shaffer) "Allow me to introduce myself; I am Madam Maxime," she said, broadly. "Want to play a game of chess?" asked Ron, ponderously ("pawnderously"). "Welcome to the Knight Bus," said Stan, conductively. "Oh, no! I've forgotten my colour-coded revisions!" said Hermione, listlessly. "That @#$%! poltergeist!" Filch swore, peevishly. "Mine was sixteen inches, solid oak," stated Hagrid, erectly. "Someone's stolen all the games from the Common Room," cried Fred and George, Cluelessly. "You must breathe in the medicated vapours as deeply as possible," said Madam Pomfrey, inspirationally. "Please concentrate all your attention on this pocket watch..." Professor Trelawney intoned, hypnotically. "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. Can you think of others? -Jim Flanagan And then, Morsus Crustum did a TS incorrectly, and the following precise directive was sent in: Ministry of Magic Bureau for the Defence of Magical Humour 3 March, 2001 Dear Ms. Crustum: Thank you for you submission of 3 March. However, The Department must inform you that your "Tom Swiftie" was not written in proper form. Please note that canonical "Swifties" *must* adhere to the following formal structure: "," , . In your initial submission, '"The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry reflected.' lacked the obligatory adverb, and should, accordingly, be rewritten thusly: "The mirror in the Boy's dorm always seems sad," Harry said, reflectively. Failure to mend your ways in the very near future will result in removal of the "W" key from your keyboard, and we all know how traumatic *that* can be. Yours Retentively, etc. Anal P. Lardbhottom Department of Canonical Swifties There are lists of the Tom Swifties in the file section of OTChatter, under Humor. I have compiled a text file of all contributions. Jim Flanagan has been converting them into html. Now that you know more than you ever wanted to know about TS... how about a contribution? :) Doreen From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 18:38:25 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:38:25 -0600 Subject: AOL Poll for HP in five years References: <02c001c0a980$760f5c00$0314a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <003601c0a991$4ba48880$10ccfea9@computer> Here's the results as they stand now: You seem to have already voted. Thanks. Where will Harry Potter be in five years? -- Starring in 'Welcome Back Potter' 7017 10.7% -- Headlining a Las Vegas magic show where he turns Wayne Netwon into a Fig Newton 2699 4.1% -- Star of his own Saturday morning cartoon 42330 64.8% -- Signing a contract with NBC to start new sports league: XQuidditch 9354 14.3% -- Starring opposite Britney Spears in 'When Harry Met Sally II' 3938 6.0% Total votes: 65338 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 10 17:32:42 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:32:42 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR Chat - correction my apologies References: <02ea01c0a981$7246ece0$0314a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <008901c0a988$38c73680$5d3670c2@c5s910j> My understanding is that Heidi (who is a Moderator in Announcements) cross-posted the information to the main list because Announcements is barely off the ground (as John indicated). Michelle (flaearthgoddess) posted the information to Announcements list on 9th March, so it was posted there first. Heidi crossposted it on 10th March and labelled it clearly as a cross-post from Announcements. The only confusion seems to be that people weren't clear where the follow up should go. You replied on the main list; Simon moved the 'correction' thread to OT Chatter; but original post was actually sitting on its lonesome in Announcements. We're bound to run up against some confusion of this sort and we need to clarify it, obviously. Watch this space!!! Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doreen" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] JKR Chat - correction my apologies > > Did I misunderstand the whole thing? DUH! Was Heidi's letter the one that > was taken off HPforGU? I feel SO STUPID now. I am so sorry. > Doreen, moving keyboard out of reach until third cup of coffee is consumed. > Taken off HPforGU - it is not really on topic. > > Heidi: "There will be an online chat with J K Rowling on Monday, March 12th > at 5:35 GMT (12:35 ET). You can send in questions now - the e-mail address > is - rnd at bbc.co.uk" > > Doreen: << ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > rnd at bbc.co.uk>>>> > > > The email address should be: rndchat at bbc.co.uk > Remember to put 'Question for JK Rowling' as the subject line. > > A small amount of information is available at: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/rednoseday/jkrowling.shtml > > > > Simon > -- > " Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food > groups - alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat" > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 10 18:44:45 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:44:45 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <98dsmt+gh2i@eGroups.com> Heidi wrote: >If you want to guess an answer, put it on the HP_OT Chatter list >here >on yahoogroups: >Where will Harry Potter be in five years? > -- Starring in 'Welcome Back Potter' > -- Headlining a Las Vegas magic show where he turns Wayne Netwon >into >a Fig Newton > -- Star of his own Saturday morning cartoon > -- Signing a contract with NBC to start new sports league: >XQuidditch > -- Starring opposite Britney Spears in 'When Harry Met Sally II' This is depressing. I guess if I can get this depressed about a joke about a fictional character, I might need professional help. But I'm feeling a little vulnerable because I just looked through Vanity Fair ONE PAGE AT A TIME, an experience I find profoundly depressing (all those people trying to sell me stuff...all those mean-looking models...Versace ads eroticizing domestic violence...people who actually think Jeff Koons is a good artist...stupid, shallow articles about stupid, shallow people...), in a vain search for the HP photo. It must be in the April issue. I'll try to cheer myself up with the thought of Wayne becoming Fig. Now that's a constructive use of magic... ;-) Amy Z From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 10 18:49:38 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:49:38 -0000 Subject: Question about the JKR chat on Monday... Message-ID: <98dt02+ongi@eGroups.com> Hi group-- I plan to take part in the chat and enter as many questions as I can type. I'd like to ask: to attend, do I need to just go to the bbc main site and click on 'live chat'? Or, is there a specific address and/or procedure to chat there? Can anyone tell me? Thanks. Kelley From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 10 20:13:31 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:13:31 -0600 Subject: Tom Swifties ,,, question for Jim Flanagan about adverb useage Message-ID: <002401c0a99e$9638b6c0$8d14a3d1@doreen> Some of us write fanfic, some write filks ... since I am not talented in either of those areas, I am glad there are Tom Swifties to keep me amused until November. Oh, right! There IS Monday... As Daniel Radcliff and Richard Harris were walking to the cinema cafeteria, "There might still be some of that pudding left, Dick," said Dan, spottedly. "Fawkes donated two feathers for two special wands," said Mr. Olivander moultingly. "We always watch Malfoy's back!" Crabbe and Goyle chimed guardedly. "You've forgotten the magic word, Dudley," Harry said pleasingly. "What's the password today?" asked the Fat Lady, passively. "Ah, 'Gadding with Ghouls!' said Gilderoy gayly. "What do you mean, a bit of whoever we're changing into?" Ron asked, choppily. (point of order... does it HAVE to be a legit adverb? I wanted to use "clippingly" here but it is not a REAL adverb, even though it would have been more appropriate) Just as I would LOVE to use, "Regrowing bones is a nasty business," sighed Madam Pomfrey, DioxiNucleicAcidly. (BTW DAN is an anagram of DNA, but that is crawling way too far out on the limb here... no pun intended) "Someone's tampered with this Bludger!" bawled Fred, antagonistically. "Dobby can only be freed if his masters present him with clothes, sir," explained Dobby, materialistically. "But I'm a Gryffindor. The Sorting Hat wouldn't have put me here if I had Slytherin blood", Harry thought, sanguinarily. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harry Potter books!!"; "Daddy - *that's* the one I want - LOOK!!!"; "Nan - why is that funny man looking at the pencil cases?" Okay, I made that last one up. That was the little boy in my head. Neil ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heiditandy at yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 21:32:04 2001 From: heiditandy at yahoo.com (heidi tandy) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] (unknown) In-Reply-To: <98dsmt+gh2i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010310213204.2884.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amy Z wrote about that strange AOL poll I posted about earlier: > This is depressing. I guess if I can get this > depressed about a joke > about a fictional character, I might need > professional help. No, you don't. You just should add one percentage point to your own personal HP Obsession Score (evenone, of course, can get their own score by following the link from the HP4GU VFAQ page. > But I'm > feeling a little vulnerable because I just looked > through Vanity Fair > ONE PAGE AT A TIME, > in a vain search > for the HP photo. > It must be in the April issue. Imagine how depressed one one get in the Tallahassee, Florida airport, where they do sell the March Vanity Fair, which I purchased after seeing all thse posts about the pic on my wireless email device, on which, of course, it was impossible to see said pic, and where I was stuck for almost 5 hours yesterday afternoon - I actually went thru the mag TWICE in hopes that I had just accidentally missed it. If hte next issue hits local newsstands on monday, the same day as teh Schoolbooks, I will cheerfully put off reading said books for 90 seconds as I find the VF pic. And if I hang it on the inside of one of my cuboards at work, along with 2 of starling's Draco Sinister drawings, would I be acting too high school? ===== heidi tandy What Maureen Dowd thinks David Souter was thinking on Monday, December 11, 2000: I know the Bushes are furious at me. That'll teach 'em to assume that a guy living like a monk in an isolated New Hampshire farmhouse is some kind of Live Free or Die nut. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sun Mar 11 00:05:08 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:05:08 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties ,,, question for Jim Flanagan about adverb useage In-Reply-To: <002401c0a99e$9638b6c0$8d14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98effk+bqme@eGroups.com> > (point of order... does it HAVE to be a legit adverb? I wanted > to use "clippingly" here but it is not a REAL adverb, even though > it would have been more appropriate) Ministry of Magic Department of Magical Humour Dear Ms. "Doreen": Thank you for your inquiry of 10 March regarding the requirement for veracity in the adverbial component of canonical "Swifties." Ahem. Tom Swifties are to be judged primarily by their humourosity quotient, which is calculated as follows: - the intrinsic humourosity of the initial statement vis-?-vis the purported speaker (0 to 50 points) - plus - - the prima facie appropriateness of the adverb to the statement (0 to 50 points) - minus - 20 points if the adverb cannot be found in the OED, or - minus - 10 points if the adverb exists, but is inappropriate in the context of the quoted portion of the "Swiftie" - plus - - humourousity of the adverb to the statement to the extent to which it is a "play on words" (100 points) - all of the above divided by - - the number of seconds that the reader must think before grasping the intrinsic humourosity of the "Swiftie" in toto. [Note: For formal "Swiftie" evaluations, such as contests, a "canonical ensemble" judges is assembled, and the average response time is determined.] A very highly rated "Swiftie" is the following (with all due humility on the part of the author): "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. In this case, the adverb "commodiously" is, in fact, a real word, and is highly appropriate in the context of the initial statement, since "commodiously" implies welcoming. The humourosity of the "play on words" component is high. Finally, my 4-year old niece grasped the wordplay in less than 0.71 seconds, a very small divisor, resulting in an extremely high overall humourosity quotent. I trust this explanation has met your needs. Please do not hesitate to owl us in the event you have future questions. Yours pseudonomynously, Victor Appleton II (for A.P.Lardbhottom, deceased) Office of Canonical Swifties Post Scriptum: The following "Swifties" included in your submission obtained particularly high humourosity quotients: > "You've forgotten the magic word, Dudley," Harry said pleasingly. > > "Ah, 'Gadding with Ghouls!' said Gilderoy gayly. > > "What do you mean, a bit of whoever we're changing into?" Ron asked, choppily. ["Crabbily" might have scored higher] > "But I'm a Gryffindor. The Sorting Hat wouldn't have put me here if I had Slytherin blood", Harry thought, sanguinarily. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 00:17:21 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:17:21 -0000 Subject: No books In-Reply-To: <001d01c0a99e$2452b1a0$703770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <98eg6h+m0f4@eGroups.com> Neil wrote: > It felt funny: me, a grown man, picking up themed pencil cases and trinkets while the voices of 7-9 year old children piped excitedly around me: You can always use the excuse I trot out: "It's for my niece." ("And what size t-shirt does your niece wear? A women's large? Hmmm...") So sorry you couldn't find the books. I had a package slip in my mail today (I have a post office box so packages don't fit), but didn't get there in time to pick up whatever it was, darn it. Now I have to wait 'til Monday... Amy Z From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 11 00:27:01 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:27:01 -0000 Subject: No books/chat In-Reply-To: <98eg6h+m0f4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98egol+kjc9@eGroups.com> Amy Z.: "So sorry you couldn't find the books. I had a package slip in my mail today (I have a post office box so packages don't fit), but didn't get there in time to pick up whatever it was, darn it. Now I have to wait 'til Monday..." I think I may be missing from the chat tomorrow or a little late. I am going to London for part of the day and am unsure about how early I will be back. No I have not got the day wrong for the London meet up (Wednesday 14th if anyone is interested, e-mail me for more details), I have agreed to go to Church there tomorrow (I omit the explanation for this - laziness on my part). What this has to do with the new books I am unsure. Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 00:55:58 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:55:58 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <98eieu+96th@eGroups.com> A few more for the pot. Some are a little weak, and one or two may not use proper adverbs, but I couldn't resist ... this is addictive! "Tom who?" asked Hermione, swiftly. "I'll sit on him" said Hagrid, crushingly. "Hagrid sat on me" said Draco, flatly. "Lumos" said Hermione, lightly. "What's a labyrinth?" asked Ron, amazingly. "Of course there are fish in the lake" said Hermione, carpingly. "It's the best house" puffed Hannah Abbott, huffily. "Harry's not stupid" said Hermione, brightly. "Oh, I can tell" trilled Professor Trelawney, divinely. "I'll tell you what to say" said Hermione, promptly. "Is that you Peeves?" asked Ginny, faintly. "It's a broom handle" said Ron, woodenly. "Watch out for Norbert's breath" exclaimed Hagrid, hotly. "Harry come and help me untangle this" said Ginny, teasingly. "Professor Sprout will know about herbs" declared Neville, sagely. "Crabbe and Goyle just follow him around" whispered Hermione, sheepishly. "I love Chocolate Frogs" sighed Ginny, sweetly. "Stab it Harry!" shrieked Hermione, piercingly. Wotan. From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 11 01:39:48 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:39:48 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] No books on the shelves - the car leaves with nothing... HP gotta haves merchandise References: <001d01c0a99e$2452b1a0$703770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <005d01c0a9cc$2c740f40$8d14a3d1@doreen> Hmmmph! There were no Harry's Schoolbooks in WH Smiths in Lewisham, so I spent a few minutes examining their HP merchandise. I was very tempted by the Sorting Hat bookends at ?28.00 (really heavy and well made and just 'right') and I saw the figurines, including the Hedwig thing that Simon bought. I left empty-handed, but now I've seen these things, I know I'll end up buying something at some point. Poor baby! I drove 45 miles to see what one of our bigger towns had to offer. Not a lot more than a closer town. I did put the two books on reserve. They, of course, could not sell them early. They are having a "Hogwarts University Springbreak Party there at Waldenbooks. Treats, games, prizes. I think I will pass. I know some of you have been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, but I've been trying to avoid buying spinoff merchandise, knowing full well that if I saw it, I'd want it all. Self control, Neil ... self control... keep going back and looking at it all .. you will finally decide what things really mean the most to you. I can't see just buying it all to own it. I did buy the pieces which I just could NOT do without... yes, I got my Hagrid doll!!! He is just THE most precious thing in the whole of Hogwarts and beyond! He has keys, and Norbert, a string of sausages in one pocket, an owl in another, a hanky in another which reads, Believe the magic with all your heart." I love his boots ... I love his scarf and his jacket.. and his belt.. and his hair... wow did I mention his hair? He sits in the middle of my two sets of bookends ... all that is missing is my British editions... It felt funny: me, a grown man, picking up themed pencil cases and trinkets while the voices of 7-9 year old children piped excitedly around me: "Look Mummy! Harry Potter books!!"; "Daddy - *that's* the one I want - LOOK!!!"; "Nan - why is that funny man looking at the pencil cases?" The saleslady asked me, "And where is this going?" AS IF .... I told her, "Right on my computer desk, in the middle of my two sets of bookends and Harry Potter books. Well!!! I wish I had a camera to catch the look on her face! I guess adults are supposed to have some child in mind when they purchase the HP stuff. My inner child is an avid Harry Potter fan. As such, I feel compelled to listen to her when I am dragged into a Hallmark Store by the purse strings. I think I hear voices saying, "If you sell it, she will come." Hallmark has really done an outstanding job with their merchandise. None of it looks cheap and all of it looks adorable. The only other piece that I lust after is the invisibility cloak figurine.... and maybe the Kings Crossing bookends.... and the Quidditch lamp ..... *sigh* ... see what you started? Okay, I made that last one up. That was the little boy in my head. Neil Awww... listen to your inner child.... before he stops speaking to you and you grow old and fussy. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebonyink at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 03:10:54 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:10:54 -0000 Subject: Everyday magic continued... Message-ID: <98eqbu+6i6m@eGroups.com> Hey, chatters: Thanks for all the love and understanding that poured in re: my post and Trina's. I wrote mine in the middle of the night. I was very depressed after a long day at school. For once HP fandom seemed very distant. Lately I've been thinking about quitting teaching, as my health--physical and emotional--has been poor all winter. The suffering children all over the world have my heart... the ones here have brothers and sisters all over the world, in Asia and Africa, Latin America and Oceania, Australia and in the heart of Europe. All colors of the rainbow, they pray in a thousand different tongues and in scores of different ways... and the One Who watches over them all surely hears them, and touches the hearts of men and women so that we can answer their cries of distress. I don't think it's fair to blame heaven for the problems of children if we're unwilling to do all that we can for them ourselves. Lately even the world's most privileged kids have been showing signs of extreme distress. What is happening to us? Don't we realize what's at stake here? I'm so pleased that on Monday, millions of us all over the world will be helping them via JKR's Comic Relief drive. The 21st century needs to be the Century of the Child if we are to have any future as a species at all. Parker wrote: "I hope I can give them hope, I hope I can give them magic. I'm not in class with them day after day, so I don't know if I do. But I do see the kids when they come in, some of them hunched into themselves. I see them when they leave, walking just a little taller. I like to think I've helped them in some small way to do that." You have helped, more than you know. I have to remind myself of that. Your phrase "some of them hunched into themselves" was SO accurate! They believe in nothing, not even themselves. Michelle wrote: "Oh, wow , Ebony. I am not crying but I am just amazed by your post. I can't pretend to understand what it's like to live in Detroit. I live in a middle class commuter belt area 45 minutes away from London. But your post is a real eye opener. You are truly gifted at giving a Limey like me an idea of what life is like for you." I'm so glad... when I was a kid, I used to pray that one day I'd have the words to tell our stories. So much is oversensationalized about American inner cities--but in the end, most of the kids are just regular kids. The thugs are really a minority in any urban ghetto I've ever heard of. Movies like "Boyz in da Hood", "Menace II Society", and all those 'hood flicks DO NOT represent reality... just a distorted version of it. Why are there no stories about everyday city families like mine? For instance, my mom has two brothers--one is a street hustler, but the other is a Stanford graduate and a e-commerce specialist making a six figure salary. The difference is that my hustler uncle couldn't detach himself from the ghetto, while the techie uncle left Detroit in 1984 for college and swore he'd never live here again. So does my seventeen year old sister, a kid who has my brain and our other sister's good looks. She came from school crying yesterday. Apparently a kid she'd grown up with was jumped by a pack of young boys... his crime was studying with and (allegedly) flirting with someone else's girlfriend. Muideen is a bright kid--his parents immigrated from Nigeria a decade ago, in search of a better life in America. One can only hope that the cycle of violence and retribution (according to baby sis, his friends are swearing to avenge the beating) doesn't transform their American dream into a nightmare. Christian wrote: "You both manage to make me feel very priviliged to hvae grown up in such a place as I did, and most complaints from my childhood really trivial by comparison." Scott wrote: "But I can't really understand your post, I can't relate to it. I'm growing up in a small town, upper-middle class. My life has never really been in the positions of those kids, and I wont pretend to be able to relate to them. We'd argue that they should never have to face what they do everyday, but if they listen to you and others who understand them they'll come out better for trying." Be glad you can't relate, Christian and Scott! :-) I used to dream about living elsewhere as a kid. Not in the suburbs, mind you, but in the country. Fields--trees--streams--mountains--beaches. When I went to college in Florida, at night I'd walk back to the dorm with my friends or a date with my head flung back... I'd never seen so many stars. That's why I was always attracted to reading about kids who were nothing like me... contemporary YA books set in cities held little appeal because they didn't ring true. The slang was usually forced and outdated, the characters were uninteresting, and all the bad guys were drug dealers.... which made me, and now makes my kids, suspicious of the authors. I should pause here and explain that while drug dealers are a problem, and a lot of violence is drug-related, a huge source of inner-city violence is the black market in general. Drugs are just one commodity among many. I have six uncles (my father has 15 siblings!) who are "hustlers"--they sell illegal or stolen goods on the black markets. In my old neighborhood, you can buy anything from music to liquor to appliances to cars if you know the right people. Because of the lack of authentic commerce, almost everyone in the ghetto patronizes the hustlers for *something*. The watch and sunglass stands on the street... the bootleg music seller in the shadow of the dirty local grocery store... the person who my father knew through a co-worker who ran a videotape racket. And many of them could have told the cast members of *Gone in 60 Seconds* a thing or two about car stealing. There is a complete lack of remorse here about the black market. Even I know it's wrong on a fundamental level, but what am I supposed to do about it? Just like I have the hustler uncles and a slew of cousins who do it as well, I have five cousins on the Detroit police force, which my sister will be joining next year as well. The cops know about the hustlers and vice versa. The rules are just different here, I guess. At family gatherings, the hustlers and the cops remove their coats and their guns, put them above the reach of toddlers, and we all eat and laugh and talk and play cards. I used to think this was normal. And in a way, for me it still is. I live in two worlds: one by birthright, the other by education. One is grad classes, writer's workshops, professional conventions, and online book clubs like HP4GU. The other is home, family, church, childhood friends, and the old neighborhood. The two worlds are in constant conflict within me. I know it will be the same for my students. It's that way for them to some degree now. Trina wrote: "First of all, Ebony, let me join the others who have told you how beautiful and touching your post is. I was reminded of *my* kids down here in the Carolinas (both North and South--I've lived and worked in both places) who are starting the race after the bell already rang." I loved your posts, Trina... especially the one about the "dirt roads". It wasn't until I visited certain areas of rural Georgia when I was in college that I realized that poverty and despair wasn't just confined to kids who looked like me. Be encouraged... what we lack in financial compensation, we gain in eternal reward and internal peace. ;-) Rebecca wrote: "I may not be an urban teen, but I have so many friends that are going through all that you described. You're changing the world, Ebony. By helping all of those kids you're changing their lives, and it's so much for the better. I'm sure you can remember that one teacher that said something that stuck with you for your life, even now." There were two principal ones, and then three others. My kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Earle, told my parents to have my IQ tested. My eighth grade English teacher, Mrs. Gibson, said I was a writer. Actually, I had phenomenal English instruction from grades six through twelve. Mrs. Wiley (grades 6-7), Mr. Payne (grades 9 and 11) and Ms. Tobin (grades 10 and 12), along with Mrs. Gibson, had to be four of the best secondary English teachers in the nation. Mr. Payne was also my "directing teacher"--meaning that I student- taught under his supervision in the spring and summer of 1999. I'll end this with one last anecdote. I've been afk for two days... the Stanford uncle is visiting from California this weekend, and the family is gathering in the old neighborhood. I spent the night at my mother's house... Mama had plans, and my baby sister didn't want to be alone. At 2 a.m. last night I woke up to the rat-a-tat-tat of gunfire. I sat up in bed, listening. Semi-automatic rifle... between three to five blocks away. It would start, then it'd stop, then it would begin again. I checked on baby sis, who'd slept through it just like I used to do. Then I sank back into the bed of my childhood and let the volley lull me into a peaceful, dreamless sleep. Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home. --Ebony AKA AngieJ (P.S. This fall I completed a YA novel manuscript in the same spirit as these posts. As I said, someone needed to tell our stories without sensationalism, without apology, and without stereotypes. I'm going to be submitting it soon... but before it goes out, I'd love for one or two of you to beta-read it. I've had offline people read it over, and it's been workshopped twice, but I'd love a fresh perspective on what I've written. E-mail me off list if you're interested.) From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sun Mar 11 03:18:51 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:18:51 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <98eieu+96th@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98eqqr+7fqk@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > A few more for the pot. Some are a little weak, and one or two may > "Wait'll you hear what happened between Draco and Moody," said Ron, bouncily. "How did that Dementor get on our train?" asked Harry, faintly. -CMC From junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 03:48:18 2001 From: junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com (junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:48:18 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner? Message-ID: <98esi2+l84r@eGroups.com> What *IS* the H/H Cruiseliner? ~*Vicki Granger*~ From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 04:02:27 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:02:27 -0000 Subject: ... HP gotta haves merchandise In-Reply-To: <005d01c0a9cc$2c740f40$8d14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98etcj+f420@eGroups.com> Doreen admonished Neil: "Self control, Neil ... self control... keep going back and looking at it all .. you will finally decide what things really mean the most to you. --There is such a thing as self control? I looked in the little mirror of Erised at the WB store, and I saw myself surrounded by Harry Potter merchandise. It must really work :-) (Though it was missing a large FREE sign. Ok I'll shut up.) Neil said: "It felt funny: me, a grown man, picking up themed pencil cases and trinkets while the voices of 7-9 year old children piped excitedly around me: "Look Mummy! Harry Potter books!!"; "Daddy - *that's* the one I want - LOOK!!!"; "Nan - why is that funny man looking at the pencil cases?"" --Oh but they WERE making fun of you Neil. "He thinks he's a CAR Mummy! imagine that!" Well at least you don't try to start longwinded conversations with them on the inherent flaws of mass merchandising of fictional characters that may or may not be part of a fantasy series... I was at the mall today, and actually bought a Quidditch t-shirt, something I've never planned to do. It was nice though. My mother was with me and she asked the man who worked there to get it from a high shelf. "It's for my son". The man anwsered- "Oh but these are adult sizes." Well what are you trying to say? Some people just don't understand... I was also at a specialty grocery store today and found jar of Double Devon Cream imported from across the pond. This was perhaps as exciting as finding the long sought after Roseflower Water. Double Devon Cream, is that the same as clotted cream? I assumed it was the closest thing I'd find. (With only 13 grams of fat an ounce. Well I don't eat it often!) Scott Who wandered into the bookstore but didn't, nor did he expect to find the Harry Potter Schoolbooks... From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 04:15:45 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:15:45 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner? In-Reply-To: <98esi2+l84r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98eu5h+kgka@eGroups.com> Vicki wrote: "What *IS* the H/H Cruiseliner?" --What is the SS H/H? Off with her head! No, no wait it may not be too late. Come into the light, that's it...follow the one true ship. All the others are bound to hit an iceberg. Actually the SS H/H is the fictional "ship" on which those who support a relationSHIP (hence the terms ship and shipper) between Harry and Hermione. Likewise that nasty, run down, I'm-suprised-it- can-float-thing over there is the Good Ship R/H. (That was a joke!) It is for those who support a relationship between Ron and Hermione. The SS Hermione is a fun-loving ship, though I will forewarn you we are a passionate group of people. You're welcome to join us. There is a fantastic oceanview stateroom on the starboard side that is just waiting for you. BTW, Penny's our good Cap'n and Ebony is the first mate... Scott The humble Chef and Entertainment Director (I don't think those positions are taken...) on the SS H/H. From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 05:00:10 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:00:10 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <98eieu+96th@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98f0oq+egik@eGroups.com> Here are a few I came up with, none of which are very good... "His name's Crookshanks," said Hermione gingerly. The shades came out of Voldemort's wand one by one. "We'll stay just long enough to let you get away," said his father hazily. "I didn't kill your parents Harry," said Sirius seriouly. "Oh, but these socks are all wrong, they match!" Said Dobby mismatchedly. "The Ghost up rising of 1467 was the worst..." drolled Prof. Binns deadly. So they aren't very good, but they are fun....I'll keep thinking. Scott From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 11 04:32:24 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:32:24 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Tom Swifties ,,, question for Jim Flanagan about adverb useage References: <98effk+bqme@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00a301c0a9e4$4616a260$ba3670c2@c5s910j> >From the desk of.... Theobald R Pedant Office of the Mother Tongue Department of Interwizarding Communications Ministry of Magic Internal Memo to: Victor Appleton II Office of Canonical Swifties Dear Vic In your recent owling to Mistress Doreen you stated the following: <> In my capacity as Deputy Chief Neckpain, and notwithstanding the excellent play on the word commode, I feel I should point out the reduction in hilarity afforded by the use of the noun "stall," as this is generally understood by the British Wizarding community to be a temporary construction from which traders sell their wares in a market. Moaning Myrtle (deceased), being of British extraction would most likely describe her sectioned abode as a "cubicle". My own reaction time being rather greater than than of your small niece, I felt it encumbent upon me to inform you of this detail. Yours invidiously Theo PS - How are Mavis and the kids? ________________________________________ flying_ford_anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 11 05:09:08 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:09:08 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Tom Swifties References: <98f0oq+egik@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <014d01c0a9e9$683a4fe0$8d14a3d1@doreen> Here are a few I came up with, none of which are very good... So they aren't very good, but they are fun....I'll keep thinking. Scott It is not for you to judge, sir. We have committees for that. Tom Swifties are for the fun of the writers and the fun of the readers. They are good mental exercizes for both. (they also help fill in the lull between books, trailers, books, movies, books, etc) Alas, Tom Swifties will be forgotten on Monday, as everyone storms the closest book stores in search of their copies of the newest booklets. Doreen From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sun Mar 11 05:19:33 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:19:33 -0000 Subject: Merchandise & self-control, etc. Message-ID: <98f1t5+a8dh@eGroups.com> I wandered about the bookstore today also in hopes of seeing the schoolbooks out early, to no avail. I did see heaps of the Schafer book in amongst the HP books, so, once again, out of boredom and curiosity, I took a look at it. Within 10 seconds of cracking the spine, I clapped a hand to my mouth to stifle the inappropriate burst of loud laughter that escaped my lips. I flipped through, wheezing with giggles, made all the more uncomfortable by the fact that Worker bee was hanging round talking HP to an adult customer who wanted to buy them in paperback... Anyway, I finally put the book of codswallop down and wandered into the back where all the HP stuff was, where I drooled over the sorting hat bookends and the Snitch lamp. Self control, indeed! Trina From purdymango1 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 06:50:18 2001 From: purdymango1 at yahoo.com (Teek) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:50:18 -0000 Subject: ... HP gotta haves merchandise, Obsession, bonus TS. In-Reply-To: <98etcj+f420@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98f77a+phf7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > Doreen admonished Neil: > "Self control, Neil ... self control... keep going back and looking > at it all .. you will finally decide what things really mean the most > to you. > Haha, oh dear. I don't even LIKE the merchandise, and I own, what? two t-shirts that I wear at least one every week... (the pink long sleeved one that says Harry Potter in pink and silver sparkles... gotta love girls size clothing, and the purple one with the sparkly hogwart's crest - the joys of being rather scrawny). Plus a journal and the Harry being Drunk in POtions poster (both gifts) and the light up pens. THOSE are pretty cool. I quite enjoy walking up to potter-knowledgeable people, pointing the pen at them, and casting my very own lumos spell. And even more frightening, my sister did the exact same thing without any prompting when she found it. Going in search of the books tomorrow, I am. Failing that, must reserve my copies... In other news, my HP obsession rating has jumped from a measly 68% to an impressive 104% over the last two+ months. You should all be most proud for helping nurture my slightly unhealthy obsession, and really, I think the score is low. Bonus points for dreaming in potter characters almost every night, and waking up trying to place them as members of your daily life, before realizing that they are, indeed, fictional. I realized the other day that if this was star trek, I'd be walking around with pointy ears and laughing at myself. Gotta love unreality. -Teek Tom Swiftie of the night: "Actually, I couldn't fit my quidditch boxers under these leather pants," said Draco, briefly. From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 11 06:52:11 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:52:11 -0600 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <002001c0a9f7$cd22cc80$4e14a3d1@doreen> "Right, then, Harry ----- ready to try your incantation on a Dementor?" Lupin asked, patronizingly. "I wonder what flavor this Bertie Botts is?" asked Ron, tastefully. "I think that new prefect is Snape's pet," Malfoy complained perseveringly. "You'd better take that cat out of here," said Ron, scabrously. "I have been crystal gazing, Headmaster," said Professor Trelawney, clearly. "Let me draw you up a chair," Dumbledore said airily. "If you must know, Minerva, I have seen that poor Professor Lupin will not be with us for very long," she said wearily. "Merry --- hic ---Christmas! Password?" the Fat Lady asked tipsily. "What's under a dementor's hood," Harry asked covertly. "I don't think anyone should ride on that broom just yet," cried Hermione, splinteringly. "Have you ever been tempted to post to the wrong list, just to see if you can get away with it?" Doreen asked immoderately. Doreen, who enjoys these entirely too much -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 11 07:28:20 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:28:20 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner? In-Reply-To: <98eu5h+kgka@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98f9ek+m92e@eGroups.com> Vicki wrote: "What *IS* the H/H Cruiseliner?" Scott: "The SS Hermione is a fun-loving ship, though I will forewarn you we are a passionate group of people. You're welcome to join us. There is a fantastic oceanview stateroom on the starboard side that is just waiting for you." That sounds like bribery. Trying to get someone to join your ship by offering 'a fantastic oceanview stateroom' is just not cricket. Scott: "The humble Chef and Entertainment Director (I don't think those positions are taken...) on the SS H/H." It better be good entertainment and food. I have sneaked on board for the party and do not want to be disappointed. And where is my room on this ship? I may not support it, but I am still doing my best to get maximum use out of its facilities. Simon From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 08:32:12 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:32:12 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: No books/chat References: <98egol+kjc9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Simon wrote: "I think I may be missing from the chat tomorrow or a little late. I am going to London for part of the day and am unsure about how early I will be back. No I have not got the day wrong for the London meet up (Wednesday 14th if anyone is interested, e-mail me for more details), I have agreed to go to Church there tomorrow (I omit the explanation for this - laziness on my part)." Oh, Simon, please bump into the barrier in Kings Crossing for me a couple of times. Please! We will welcome you to the chat even if you're late. :) yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Rena In other news, my HP obsession rating has jumped from a measly 68% to an impressive 104% over the last two+ months. You should all be most -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at walton.to Sun Mar 11 10:56:04 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:56:04 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: Questions, questions, questions In-Reply-To: <00e001c0aa14$74dbbec0$70e01b3f@rena> Message-ID: Hi again from the friendly Moderator Team. We seem to be having a spate of folks asking questions that we all asked back when we were newbies -- who is Nancy Stouffer (not Schafer)? -- What's this Obsessiveness Test? Well, the Moderators have taken the time to put together a whole heap of information to answer your questions. It can all be found in the Files Section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files Read all the files there, but especially the VFAQ, Netiquette, Shorthand and Welcome Message files. And then, if you still have questions, fire them away to the list or to the Moderators at hpforgrownups-owner at yahoogroups.com Cheers, --John ________________________________________________ John "Diet Coke Addict" Walton john at walton.to =| HPforGrownups Moderator With Rock #47 =| The Moderators say: "Do you want a better career? Sure, we all do. So read the Very FAQ and Make More Money!" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm ________________________________________________ From john at walton.to Sun Mar 11 11:00:53 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:00:53 +0000 Subject: Snape eGroup In-Reply-To: <3AAB2F32.B78FBAF7@wicca.net> Message-ID: Catlady wrote: > Jenny from Ravenclaw wrote: >> Anyway, does anyone else think Snape is as complicated as I do? > > There are a ton of people who love Snape, enough that they have at least > one egroup dedicated only to discussing Snape, which I am not in and do > not know the URL off-hand, even tho' I enjoy Snape's complicated > messed-up mind enough to write fic about him. Pippin wrote a song in > post #6914 of this group: IIRC, the group Rita's referring to is the SnapeFans YahooGroup, which can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SnapeFans and of which our lovely Amanda (and others, I think) is a member. --John ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From pbnesbit at msn.com Sun Mar 11 12:06:00 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: ... HP gotta haves merchandise In-Reply-To: <98etcj+f420@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98fpn8+pidk@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > Doreen admonished Neil: > "Self control, Neil ... self control... keep going back and looking > at it all .. you will finally decide what things really mean the most > to you. > > --There is such a thing as self control? I looked in the little > mirror of Erised at the WB store, and I saw myself surrounded by > Harry Potter merchandise. It must really work :-) (Though it was > missing a large FREE sign. Ok I'll shut up.) Self control? I'm with you, Scott, what's self-control? Actually, I'm pretty picky about what I get. It has to look right. No 'Harry on drugs' stuff for me (although I do have the desk calendar & I *really hate* the pictures of Harry). > > > I was at the mall today, and actually bought a Quidditch t-shirt, > something I've never planned to do. It was nice though. My mother was > with me and she asked the man who worked there to get it from a high > shelf. "It's for my son". The man anwsered- "Oh but these are adult > sizes." Well what are you trying to say? Some people just don't > understand... Oh, I'm *dying* for a couple of T-shirts!! (I collect them) So far, I've only found one mail-order catalogue that has them. Do you (or anyone)know of any place I can buy them? (Besides a WB store--none of those here) > > I was also at a specialty grocery store today and found jar of Double > Devon Cream imported from across the pond. This was perhaps as > exciting as finding the long sought after Roseflower Water. Double > Devon Cream, is that the same as clotted cream? I assumed it was the > closest thing I'd find. (With only 13 grams of fat an ounce. Well I > don't eat it often!) Yum!! Have some for me, Scott! > > Scott > Who wandered into the bookstore but didn't, nor did he expect to find > the Harry Potter Schoolbooks... Parker (Who's not-so-patiently awaiting her schoolbooks, which she pre-ordered) From s_ings at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 13:17:25 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:17:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Ebony's and Trina's posts In-Reply-To: <3AA9B03E.B17CC71E@texas.net> Message-ID: <20010311131725.3819.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Scott wrote: > > > Seriouly I can only hope that when I'm grown I can > find a way to share > > myself with others in a way that will touch them > and hopefully improve > > their lives. After all isn't that why we're here? > Thanks to Ebony and > > Trina for sharing. A big collective thank you to > ALL teachers, they > > are the true heros of the world. In a way we're > all teachers... > > "Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of > the world, but to do > what is in us for the succor of those years wherein > we are set, > uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so > that those who live > after may have clean earth to till." > > --Gandalf, speaking in vol. III, Lord of the Rings > > I salute you, Ebony, Trina, and you others who know > who you are, out > uprooting the evil in the fields that you know. My > children may know a > better world because of people like you. > > --Amanda > I am incredibly touched by both of your posts. The world (both the children's and ours) is blessed by your presence. I can only hope that my daughter (who wants to teach special education and is currently doing a co-op program as a TA) can contribute as much to the lives of children as the two of you (and all other dedicated teachers). Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 13:32:14 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:14 -0000 Subject: Yet more Tom Swifties Message-ID: <98fuou+q7f5@eGroups.com> "Go!" cried Ron, gamely. "What sort of dog?" asked Harry, grimly. "I know how to get a phoenix feather," Ginny said pluckily. "It's a ship" said Hermione lovingly. "Where is Scabbers?" asked Ron, rattily. "Try this wand," Mr Ollivander said sparkily. "And what's wrong with my hair?" intoned Snape, greasily. "Don't be scared Gin, it's just a maggot," Harry said gently. "What do you think of the suit?" asked Hagrid loudly. "Harry, it's just a quiz" said Hermione testily. Okay, so it's addictive. But I can give it up anytime I want, said Wotan NOingly. Wotan :o) From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 13:36:22 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:36:22 -0000 Subject: Double-Tom Swifties Message-ID: <98fv0m+oomr@eGroups.com> Anybody fancy doing double-Tom Swifties? I define these as two sentences, back-to-back, each a Swiftie in itself, and each sentence somehow linked to the other. Here are my initial feeble efforts. Your thoughts and comments appreciated ... "I'd like to work at Azkaban," Goyle said dementedly. "Me too - and I'm smarter than Goyle" said Crabbe thickly. "He will always be poor" drawled Draco richly. "But I love him" croaked Hermione, wheezingly. (hmm ...) Wotan :o) From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 11 13:37:40 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:37:40 -0000 Subject: Fanfic Question-HELP! In-Reply-To: <002c01c0a573$1f6f8c00$1f4e28d1@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <98fv34+hraq@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Saitaina" wrote: > Okay if you have three people and one motorcycle how do you fit > them all? Yeah, I know that was asked on Monday and this is replying on Sunday (and even that Voicelady already replied). It is not 5:07 am and I stayed up all night reading the OT Chatter list from the begining -- I have not yet made it to the end, but am about to fall asleep, dunno if I will awake in time for chat this noontide... > Okay if you have three people and one motorcycle how do you fit > them all? In my story, I had Sirius driving, Remus riding pillion, and Peter (as rat) in Sirius's pocket. (Shirt pocket, inside the biker jacket.) If anyone read my Lilyfic (which is now in a folder in the Files section of HPff as well as of HPfGU) and thinks it is worth the effort of discussing (which I am not capable of judging), one thing that I was much struck by finding there, even tho' I hadn't (intentionally anyway) put it in, is, at least in the chapter where the three Marauders go on their Full Moon outing, a distinct homoerotic subtext NOT concerning Sirius and Remus, but rather Sirius and Peter.... What led me to mention it just now was the three on a bike, with Peter as rat, who transformed into a rat and then had to climb/scamper up Sirius's boot, jeans, jacket and then crawl inside his jacket... Surely it would have been both kinder and more chaste for Sirius to have picked up the rat from the ground and put him in the pocket? From s_ings at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 13:54:42 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:54:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010311135442.78099.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Just when I finally get this old computer working enough to last through the chat - I can't be there. Aaaaaarrrgh. Actually, much as I enjoy the chats, I believe I will have to miss the next four. The hazards of a busy life. Festival planning meeting today, festival web site launch next week, provincial festival conference the following weekend (must attend, am on the planning committee) and Pan-Canadian InterPride conference in Toronto at the end of the month. Hear that Ebony, Toronto - from Mar. 30 to Apr 1. Are you free any time that weekend (you did say to let you know if I'd ever make it to TO). Email me. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sun Mar 11 13:59:31 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:59:31 -0000 Subject: Merchandise & self-control, etc. In-Reply-To: <00e001c0aa14$74dbbec0$70e01b3f@rena> Message-ID: <98g0c3+9dtg@eGroups.com> Elizabeth Schafer wrote a curriculum guide for the HP books published by Beacham. Unfortunately, the thing is absolutely riddled with errors. Search on the name (and alternate spellings thereof) in this group and the main group (you have to do this from a browser, in Web View)and you will find plenty of messages about it. Some of the examples are agonizingly funny (if it weren't so sad that people are paying good money for this thing). Note that Elizabeth Schafer is not Nancy Stouffer. -Jim Flanagan --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rena" wrote: > Please enlighten me, what is "the Schafer book?" From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 11 15:20:56 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:20:56 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: ... HP gotta haves merchandise, Obsession, bonus TS. References: <98f77a+phf7@eGroups.com> <00f901c0aa15$e4f6f980$70e01b3f@rena> Message-ID: <001501c0aa3e$e40b1640$9414a3d1@doreen> Would you please point me to the website? Thanks Rena Here is one site http://www.sylvanlaneshoppe.com/order_harrypotter_hm.htm here is another http://www.gohallmark.com/hpotter.htm Or you can just do a search on Hallmark Harry Potter Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 11 15:32:46 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:32:46 -0000 Subject: Magic and Science Message-ID: <98g5qu+u0m4@eGroups.com> --- Some time ago, In HPforGrownups at y..., whimzical at y... wrote: >>It seems like people nowadays call *everything* a science. What could be less scientific (read mundane) than magic? How could there be scientific evidence to support why some people have certain powers and others don't? Where does it come from? To me, magic is an art. It is unique to each person and can be expressed in a large variety of creative ways."<< We can see the explosion of stars, and understand an eclipse of the Sun, our world is governed by manipulation of particles each less than one billionth billionth billionth of a gram. The Sun rises, trees grow, muscles move. People can see, hear, smell, think and feel. All this is science. We can grow diamond on the edge of a blade, and cut through metal with light. Got to be some magic there... I can't think of any other reason for teaching mathematics. -Ben. The main reason for being a teacher, is not to teach a subject, but to make the student want to learn. If they want to learn then teaching is child's play. And the thing about child's play is that it is natural and fun. For everyone. Ps. I know this is a fairly old post, but it was bugging me. [And I didn't even touch on chemistry or geology (chalk can become limestone, and slate... Fancy building a house from calcium carbonate?)] Try this for art and science too: www.chris-smiths-gallery.com From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 15:48:22 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:48:22 -0000 Subject: Snape list??? Message-ID: <98g6o6+lrpc@eGroups.com> I've just read over on the main list that some of you have a Snape- Addiction list! I tried to search Yahoo! Groups, but I can't figure which one is "ours" if you catch my drift! Can anyone help? Heather M., siriously addicted to Snape. From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 11 17:24:55 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:24:55 -0000 Subject: No books/chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98gcd7+86p0@eGroups.com> yael: "Oh, Simon, please bump into the barrier in Kings Crossing for me a couple of times. Please!" Sorry I went no where near King's Cross. It would have been one long detour across London to get their and it started to rain so we came back early. yael: "We will welcome you to the chat even if you're late. :)" Possibly will be on time, as the above mentioned rain meant we came back early. Simon From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 18:27:44 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:27:44 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner? In-Reply-To: <98f9ek+m92e@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98gg30+s9f3@eGroups.com> Simon wrote: "That sounds like bribery. Trying to get someone to join your ship by offering 'a fantastic oceanview stateroom' is just not cricket." --Oh but lets not call it that. It IS bribery but lets not CALL it that...*bats eyelashes innocently at list* Simon also wrote: "It better be good entertainment and food. I have sneaked on board for the party and do not want to be disappointed. And where is my room on this ship? I may not support it, but I am still doing my best to get maximum use out of its facilities." --Well *smells air around him* it does indeed smell good. Actually we are having Bouluibasse (sp?) for luncheon, and there's no Ron around to refuse it! As far as entertainment goes we have our own classic stage adaption of the wonderful show- "When Harry meet Hermione" :-) Among other things of course. Scott ______________________________________________________________________ DISCOVER MAGIC AND ROMANCE ON WATER! Join the SS Harry Hermione today. With tropical ports of call discover the exotic world of the warm greenish blue post-canonical waters! Just call 1-800-TRUE-SHP today (not really of course) Or swim on over to HP_Paradise From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 11 18:44:45 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:44:45 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner? In-Reply-To: <98gg30+s9f3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98gh2t+ma7m@eGroups.com> Simon wrote:"It better be good entertainment and food. I have sneaked on board for the party and do not want to be disappointed. And where is my room on this ship? I may not support it, but I am still doing my best to get maximum use out of its facilities." Scott: "Well *smells air around him* it does indeed smell good. Actually we are having Bouluibasse (sp?) for luncheon, and there's no Ron around to refuse it! As far as entertainment goes we have our own classic stage adaption of the wonderful show- "When Harry meet Hermione" :-) Among other things of course." I finally found the menu and the bouillabaisse (should I get worried if the chef cannot even spell the name of the food he is cooking?) was good. Lunch has happened in the UK so I got mine early. I have to point out that the sign advertising tonights show actually says 'When Harry met Hedwig'. Which I have to say sounds much more enjoyable. Looking forward tan interesting evening. Simon (who seems incapable of spelling his own name at the moment - misspelt it three times) From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Sat Mar 10 05:56:30 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 06:56:30 +0100 Subject: Pictures of Neil in hairnet & bunny slippers References: <98bk67+jv0m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002d01c0aa60$617abd30$6700a8c0@Shasta> John proposed, > >> BTW ... the first 200 to join get an autographed picture of Neil > >> in his hairnet and bunny slippers. Doreen > >> > > I'm on both lists--among the first to join, btw. When can I expect > >> my picture? > > Just as soon as you send off your GBP 99.99 administration fee to: > > HPFGU Promotions > Rock and Roll Enterprises > 4 Magnolia Crescent > Great Whinging > Slurry > BS4 2CU Wow! I drift away from the forum for a while, only to come back a find that people have snapped up a ll the good business opportunities while I was away. Which reminds me: are *you* the person who's been sending me all those *fascinating* emails from GirlsThatLuvHagridParts at HotHotHot.com? (Must say: I find it curious that my Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com account seems to get about five times as much porno-spam as my MikeSusanGray at Yahoo.com does. The spammers seem to figure that girls who luv would probably be a good fit with guys who like goats ... ) Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From msmacgoo at one.net.au Sun Mar 11 22:04:25 2001 From: msmacgoo at one.net.au (Snuffles MacGoo) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:04:25 -0000 Subject: Hedwig Message-ID: <98gsp9+969n@eGroups.com> Hey everyone I walked the dogs in a local cemetary last night and one of the headstones recorded the life is one 'Johanna Hedwig Jones' died 1939. I was excited Off to pick up QTA and FB (more excitment!) storm From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sun Mar 11 22:18:03 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:18:03 -0000 Subject: Double-Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <98fv0m+oomr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98gtir+rlpp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > Anybody fancy doing double-Tom Swifties? I define these as two > sentences, back-to-back, each a Swiftie in itself, and each sentence > somehow linked to the other. "What happening to Fawkes?" cried Harry ashenly. "That's just natural with a Phoenix," replied Dumbledore fierily. "Did you hear about Lupin's decision?" asked Ron resignedly. "And just when he was going to teach us how to stop Boggarts from changing their shape," sighed Harry shiftlessly. - CMC From editor at texas.net Sun Mar 11 22:17:46 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:17:46 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Hedwig References: <98gsp9+969n@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AABF98A.1DA3DC95@texas.net> Snuffles MacGoo wrote: > I walked the dogs in a local cemetary last night and one of the > headstones recorded the life is one 'Johanna Hedwig Jones' died 1939. > I was excited Hey, we got to church in St. Hedwig, Texas. Hedwig is the Germanic form of the Polish name Jadwiga, a queen of which name had the coolest of all marble effigy tomb-tops in the whole of Wawel Cathedral in Krakow. Needless to say, I liked that Harry named his owl Hedwig. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Sun Mar 11 22:26:50 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 16:26:50 -0600 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... Message-ID: <3AABFBAA.3C5C4034@texas.net> My mother told me of Tom Swifties, many moons ago, so long ago that I didn't remember the details. But I have found this, for those who want to know. The URL for the site where I lifted the info follows it, in case anyone wishes to follow up. --Amanda Not many dictionaries define "Tom Swifty". One that does is _The Random House Dictionary of the English Language_ (1966): Tom Swiftie, a play on words that follows an unvarying pattern and relies for its humor on a punning relationship between the way an adverb describes a speaker and at the same time refers significantly to the import of the speaker's statement, as in _"I know who turned off the lights," Tom hinted darkly._ [named after a narrative mannerism characteristic of the _Tom Swift_ American series of adventure novels for boys] In actual use, "Tom Swifty" seems to have a somewhat broader meaning, and includes the form christened "croakers" by Roy Bongartz, wherein a verb rather than an adverb supplies the pun (e.g. "I'm dying", he croaked). "Who is this Tom Swifty character anyway?" asked Tom unselfconsciously. Tom Swift was the brainchild of Edward L. Stratemeyer (1862-1930). Stratemeyer first used the name "Tom Swift" for the title character in "Shorthand Tom; or, the exploits of a young reporter", serialized in 1894. Sixteen years later he re-used the name for a new character, an ingenious youth whose amazing scientific inventions and discoveries would carry him to weird and wonderful places. The Tom Swift adventure series, which was published under the pseudonym Victor Appleton, began with _Tom Swift and his motor-cycle; or Fun and Adventure on the road_ in 1910, and continued until 1935 (5 years after Stratemeyer's death!). Stratemeyer was also the creator of the Bobbsey Twins, Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, and other lesser-known series. Stratemeyer only supplied the characters and the (repetitive) plots for his books; he had a syndicate of some 20 hack writers to do the actual writing. After his death the syndicate was taken over by his daughter, Harriet S. Adams, who in 1954 started the "Tom Swift, Jr." series under the pseudonym Victor Appleton II. The "narrative mannerism" that the Random House Dictionary mentions was not the Tom Swifty as such, but merely the laboured avoidance of the unadorned use of the word "said". Tom never merely "said" anything; he asserted, asseverated, averred, chuckled, declared, ejaculated, expostulated, grinned (plainly or mischievously), groaned, quipped, or smiled. In particular, sentences of the form: "---", Tom said ---ly. were used ad nauseam. Then one day day someone decided to satirize the mannerism by using puns, and the Tom Swifty was born. I am ignorant of who first used the humorous form of Tom Swifty, or of whether the form is older than the name. I seem to recall once reading that "'One or two lumps?' she asked sweetly" dates from the early part of this century, but I have lost the reference. Perhaps it was Dorothy Parker or one of her fellow Algonquin wits, who were fond of a game called "Give me a sentence", where the challenged party had to supply a sentence punning on a given word. I would be most grateful to anyone who could help me fill in the gaps here. URL of origin: http://www.floaty.com/~jonathan/library/jonathan/swifties From pbnesbit at msn.com Sun Mar 11 23:22:31 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:22:31 -0000 Subject: Snape list??? In-Reply-To: <98g6o6+lrpc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98h1bn+as5p@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I've just read over on the main list that some of you have a Snape- > Addiction list! I tried to search Yahoo! Groups, but I can't figure > which one is "ours" if you catch my drift! Can anyone help? > > Heather M., siriously addicted to Snape. Hi, Heather! Glad to help--it's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Snapefans We're a warm & welcoming bunch (IMNSHO) & love to have newbies join. See you there! Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sun Mar 11 23:33:14 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:33:14 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... In-Reply-To: <3AABFBAA.3C5C4034@texas.net> Message-ID: <98h1vq+ua8h@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: [snip] > Tom Swift was the brainchild of Edward L. Stratemeyer (1862-1930). [snip] > Stratemeyer was also the creator of the Bobbsey Twins, Nancy Drew, > the Hardy Boys, and other lesser-known series. [snip] So he's the culprit! He must be punished - bring forward the smalahove! Prepare the lutefisk! Dig up the surstr?mming (from wherever we dug down those barrels six months ago)! That's Bobsey, not Bobbsey, btw. Nancy Drew is commonly referred to as "Fr?ken Detektiv" (="Ms. Detective") in Norway - there is even a popular song written about her. Best regards Christian Stub? From nlpnt at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 23:34:25 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:34:25 -0000 Subject: How I almost won the merch prize... Message-ID: <98h221+6cdu@eGroups.com> Last summer, I was driving through Barre, Vermont when I saw a Ford Anglia...with a "For Sale" sign! It was (awful, peeling) black with ALL windows black-tinted, including the windshield (highly illegal), but from what I could see, it was solid enough. Unfortunately, it was locked up tighter than a drum, as was the shop it was parked outside ("Wild Auto Electric Shop"), and there was no contact number in sight. Oh, well. From nlpnt at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 23:42:38 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:42:38 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... In-Reply-To: <98h1vq+ua8h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98h2he+mf34@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > [snip] > > Tom Swift was the brainchild of Edward L. Stratemeyer (1862-1930). > > [snip] > > > Stratemeyer was also the creator of the Bobbsey Twins, Nancy Drew, > > the Hardy Boys, and other lesser-known series. > [snip] > > So he's the culprit! He must be punished - bring forward the > smalahove! Prepare the lutefisk! Dig up the surstr?mming (from > wherever we dug down those barrels six months ago)! > And don't forget the "Chicken" McNuggets! And Spam! (sings)Wonderful Spam, Fabulous Sp-a-am!... > That's Bobsey, not Bobbsey, btw. I distinctly remember two "b"'s. Maybe the Norwegian translations dropped a b? From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 12 02:28:54 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:28:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Snape eGroup References: Message-ID: <3AAC3465.C446E31C@texas.net> John Walton wrote: > IIRC, the group Rita's referring to is the SnapeFans YahooGroup, which > can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SnapeFans and of which > our lovely Amanda (and others, I think) is a member. How many lovely Amandas do you need? Yes, I'm there, just as vocal. Consider yourself warned. Also, as I said in a different post, I'm far from the best searcher of the message archive, but I've done loads of detailed Snape analysis, as have others, and a tiptoe through the archives might be fun for anyone into the complexity and/or motivations of Snape. --it's de-lovely, it's de-lite-ful, it's Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From catlady at wicca.net Mon Mar 12 02:49:02 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:49:02 -0800 Subject: Multiple Replies Message-ID: <3AAC391D.748BA896@wicca.net> Ebony and Trina wrote those great touching posts and other people wrote great touching responses. I feel a little guilty that I am replying only in the silliest possible terms. Partly serious and partly on-topic, Ebony, as you describe people living their normal lives in the midst of so much death, lulled to sleep by the sound of gunfire (!), do you think that is what living in the Bad Years (the first Voldemort Reign of Terror) was like for the wizarding folk? Amy Z wrote: > in a vain search for the HP photo. It must be in the April issue. http://www.hpgalleries.com/mgallery23.htm Wotan wrote: > "Don't be scared Gin, it's just a maggot," Harry said gently. Please explain that to the stupid Kitten. Aberforth's Goat wrote: > (Must say: I find it curious that my Aberforths_Goat at Y... > account seems to get about five times as much porno-spam > as my MikeSusanGray at Y... > does. The spammers seem to figure that girls who luv > would probably be a good fit with guys who like goats ... ) Maybe the porn spammers used alphabetical order. Amanda wrote: > Hey, we got to church in St. Hedwig, Texas. Hedwig is the > Germanic form of the Polish name Jadwiga, a queen of which > name had the coolest of all marble effigy tomb-tops in the whole > of Wawel Cathedral in Krakow. Needless to say, I liked that > Harry named his owl Hedwig. I keep assuming that Hedwig in English would be Ediva, via Edigfu, like Godiva was formerly Godigfu, with presumed German form something like Gottwig? -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From nera at rconnect.com Mon Mar 12 03:17:01 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:17:01 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH References: <3AABFBAA.3C5C4034@texas.net> Message-ID: <001f01c0aaa2$ea716de0$6714a3d1@doreen> Stratemeyer was also the creator of the Bobbsey Twins, Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, and other lesser-known series. Amanda The Bobsey Twins was the first hardcover books that I ever owned. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Wotan wrote: > "Don't be scared Gin, it's just a maggot," Harry said gently. Please explain that to the stupid Kitten. Catlady Don't feel lonely, Catlady, I didn't get it either, but by the time I read it, was too tired to ask. I am surprised that the Ministry of Magical Humour didn't catch that one. Doreen From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Mon Mar 12 05:28:23 2001 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 12 Mar 2001 05:28:23 -0000 Subject: New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter Message-ID: <984374903.5651.18034.qe@yahoogroups.com> Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the HPFGU-OTChatter group. File : /Club_Humor/Neil in bunny slippers & hairnet.jpg Uploaded by : nera at rconnect.com Description : Neil in bunny slippers & hairnet, as promised You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/Neil%20in%20bunny%20slippers%20%26%20hairnet.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nera at rconnect.com From nera at rconnect.com Mon Mar 12 05:34:22 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:34:22 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] New file uploaded to HPFGU-OTChatter References: <984374903.5651.18034.qe@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <013a01c0aab6$18bd41c0$6714a3d1@doreen> Please do not share this with anyone not on the OT list ... it is supposed to be an incentive to join the OT list :) Doreen File : /Club_Humor/Neil in bunny slippers & hairnet.jpg Uploaded by : nera at rconnect.com Description : Neil in bunny slippers & hairnet, as promised You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/Neil%20in%20b unny%20slippers%20%26%20hairnet.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nera at rconnect.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From Schlobin at aol.com Mon Mar 12 06:19:12 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:19:12 -0000 Subject: unhappy -- where's Neil's picture Message-ID: <98hpp0+46mb@eGroups.com> i can't find it.... Susan From Schlobin at aol.com Mon Mar 12 06:21:37 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:21:37 -0000 Subject: never mind Re: unhappy -- where's Neil's picture In-Reply-To: <98hpp0+46mb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98hpth+1nds@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > i can't find it.... > > Susan I found it..but it's quite disappointing..... I thought it would be equivalent to me in my black motorcyle jacket......but it's quite vanilla Susan From nera at rconnect.com Mon Mar 12 06:34:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:34:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] where's Neil's picture References: <98hpth+1nds@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <019801c0aabe$766f7ce0$6714a3d1@doreen> > i can't find it.... > > Susan I found it..but it's quite disappointing..... I thought it would be equivalent to me in my black motorcyle jacket......but it's quite vanilla Susan Sorry that you didn't like it ... I have never seen your pic in your black motorcycle jacket. Doreen From junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 10:22:52 2001 From: junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com (~*Vicki Granger*~) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:22:52 +1100 Subject: SHIP- H/H Cruiseliner Message-ID: Not bribery at all! I've always been H/H! Although that stateroom doesn't hurt... as long as the view isn't spoiled by that Good Ship (they call *that* a ship?) R/H... j/k ======== Scott: "The SS Hermione is a fun-loving ship, though I will forewarn you we are a passionate group of people. You're welcome to join us. There is a fantastic oceanview stateroom on the starboard side that is just waiting for you." That sounds like bribery. Trying to get someone to join your ship by offering 'a fantastic oceanview stateroom' is just not cricket. ======== ~*Vicki Granger*~ FanFiction.Net Author Hermione Granger in Harry_Potter_RPG2 113% Obsessed with Harry Potter ~*~MeMbEr Of EvIl ClUb~*~ :>(*)<: Reserve Seeker :>(*)<: Proud Ravenclaw "Oh, think nothing of it. I love getting free snogs from women on the verge of a nervous breakdown who are using me to piss off their fiancees." --Napolean Jones ("Harry Potter and the Show That Never Ends" by Lori) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From msmacgoo at one.net.au Mon Mar 12 10:28:58 2001 From: msmacgoo at one.net.au (Snuffles MacGoo) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:28:58 -0000 Subject: never mind Re: unhappy -- where's Neil's picture In-Reply-To: <98hpth+1nds@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98i8da+n140@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > > i can't find it.... > > > > Susan > > > I found it..but it's quite disappointing..... > I thought it would be equivalent to me in my > black motorcyle jacket......but it's quite vanilla > > Susan I don't think you can get much more vanilla than a hairnet and bunny slippers .... storm From s_ings at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 14:08:43 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 06:08:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Uploaded pic is all well and good, but... In-Reply-To: <98i8da+n140@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010312140843.42478.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> but... I'm still holding out for the promised autographed copy of said photo. Neil, I think we're all waiting . Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 14:51:39 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:51:39 -0000 Subject: Bunny slippers etc. In-Reply-To: <98hpth+1nds@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98inpr+i3e3@eGroups.com> Susan wrote: > I found it..but it's quite disappointing..... > I thought it would be equivalent to me in my > black motorcyle jacket......but it's quite vanilla Neil, what I want to know is, is that a duster you're holding (dust bunny slippers?) or a Baby Firebolt? And Susan, I believe the above constitutes a binding agreement to post the pic of yourself in your black motorcycle jacket. ;-) Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 15:01:15 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:01:15 -0000 Subject: Liebowitz pic In-Reply-To: <3AAC391D.748BA896@wicca.net> Message-ID: <98iobr+acaa@eGroups.com> I wrote: > > in a vain search for the HP photo. It must be in the April issue. > > http://www.hpgalleries.com/mgallery23.htm > Thanks, Catlady. I have gazed often upon that site, indeed have downloaded it as wallpaper so that I may contemplate Harry with the click of a mouse whenever my heart desires--the expression on his face is just perfect, isn't it?... ...but I had the thought that maybe the magazine version, being a little clearer, would show the scar. Yes, this has reached fetish proportions. Amy Z From heiditandy at yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 16:21:35 2001 From: heiditandy at yahoo.com (heiditandy at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:21:35 -0000 Subject: Stupid Question of the Week Message-ID: <98it2f+5kjr@eGroups.com> The Think Like A Wizard question of the weekend from the Harry POtter Day by Day Calendar is.... Which of your teachers is most like Professor Quirrell? You know, even when I was in school, none of my teachers had given their body over to a parasitic serial killer evil overlord. Well, other than Mr Miller, that is.... From john at walton.to Mon Mar 12 16:50:32 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:50:32 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Stupid Question of the Week In-Reply-To: <98it2f+5kjr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: heiditandy at yahoo.com wrote: > The Think Like A Wizard question of the weekend from the Harry POtter > Day by Day Calendar is.... > Which of your teachers is most like Professor Quirrell? > > You know, even when I was in school, none of my teachers had given > their body over to a parasitic serial killer evil overlord. > Well, other than Mr Miller, that is.... Actually, we were convinced that one of our French teachers was possessed by an evil spirit. I used to carry round protective talismans (talismen?) on my French folder to keep him at bay. And besides, don't you watch Buffy? ALL teachers (except the European ones) are preying manti/maniacal geneticists/demons! --John ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 17:33:29 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:33:29 -0000 Subject: Stupid Question of the Week In-Reply-To: <98it2f+5kjr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98j199+h2gt@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., heiditandy at y... wrote: > The Think Like A Wizard question of the weekend from the Harry POtter > Day by Day Calendar is.... > Which of your teachers is most like Professor Quirrell? > > You know, even when I was in school, none of my teachers had given > their body over to a parasitic serial killer evil overlord. This never occurred to me as an explanation for my homeroom teacher's odd behavior--we just thought he was plain nuts--but thinking back, it would explain a lot. I always thought it would not be surprising if he turned out to be a serial killer. He also had an odd smell and odd clothes, though no turban. Amy Z -------------------------------------------------------------- "Damn it, all this eye-twinkling is making my pupils itch." --Dumbledore, "The Magical Mystika Tour," Rave www.fanfiction.net/index.fic?action=story-read&storyid=93315 -------------------------------------------------------------- From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 17:56:52 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:56:52 -0000 Subject: That not so great Great Dr Laura joke In-Reply-To: <9899go+91n7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98j2l4+mbdr@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > From the letter: "I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as > it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think > would be a fair price for her?" > > Passage mentioned: "If a man sells his daughter as a servant" > > That is hardly suggesting that one should, it is dealing with the > case of what to do if one does. > > > From the letter: "A friend of mine feels that even though eating > shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination > than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?" > > Passage mentioned: "You must distinguish between the holy and the > common, between the unclean and the clean" > > Hardly relevant to the question asked. Especially as teh rest of the > passage is on rituals. > Hey, look, Dr. Laura is the one who actually quotes Leviticus to people as proof that homosexuality is evil. If the rest of Leviticus is a lot of outdated rubbish about rituals, and a lot of it is, that's exactly the point. If modern people can wear linen and wool together despite what it says in Leviticus, and eat shrimp despite what it says in Leviticus, then a man can have sex with a man despite what it says in Leviticus. (Way more fun than mixing fibers, or even eating shrimp.) Amy Z who doesn't find Dr. Laura the slightest bit funny From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Mon Mar 12 18:40:58 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:40:58 EST Subject: Ron's Natal Astrology Chart Message-ID: The following astrological chart was prepared by Awarenet, a website that has an easy to use form to calculate a variety of astrological charts (both for free and for a fee). The opinions and observations presented in this chart are those of Awarenet, not of the person posting it. ***This chart was not prepared by me and does not in any way reflect my opinions concerning any of the characters.*** My intention in posting the chart is that it be used for fun discussion purposes and not that it be taken seriously. As we don't know the characters' birthtimes, portions of this chart may incorrect. I used 12:00 p.m. as the birthtime to calculate what Awarenet calls a "natural" chart. The most likely portions to be affected by birthtime are the moon and ascendant. I have used London as the birthplace for all characters born in England because it is contained in Awarenet's database and shares the same time zone with all other cities in England. Awarenet's URL is: www.awarenet.com Positions for Ron Weasley Birth Chart Interpretation for Ron WeasleyBorn 3/01/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: 0) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 11 Pisces 4? ? 7S25 ?? Moon? ? 6 Virgo 59? ? 9N36 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Pisces 58? ? 0S45 ?? Venus? ? 24 Aries 0? ? 10N00 ?? Mars? ? 3 Virgo 42? ? 14N10 ?? Jupiter? ? 4 Virgo 32? ? 11N04 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 37? ? 4N20 ?? Uranus? ? 25 Scorpio 34? ? 18S53 ?? Neptune? ? 22 Sagittarius 32? ? 21S52 ?? Pluto? ? 21 Libra 19? ? 7N55 ?? Node? ? 28 Leo 42? ? 11N56 ?? Ascendant? ? 10 Cancer 38? ? 23N01 ?? Midheaven? ? 7 Pisces 36? ? 8S43 Tropical ZodiacSun in Pisces: ? ? At heart you are very gentle, impressionable, and receptive - a dreamer. The world of your imagination, feelings, and intuition is as real to you as anything in the outer world, though you may have trouble verbalizing or interpreting your inner experiences in a way others can understand. Mystical, artistic, musical, emotional and imaginative, you have a rich inner life, though you may seem rather unobtrusive and quiet outwardly. You usually keep to yourself. ? ? You have great sensitivity and empathy with others, and you often sense things psychically or intuitively which prove to be correct. You are tolerant, forgiving, and nonjudgmental, accepting people unconditionally regardless of their flaws, mistakes, or outward appearance. You have deep compassion for the suffering of any fellow creature and often feel others' pain as if it were your own. You sympathize with the needy, the disadvantaged, the misfits of society. You are capable of giving selflessly, living a life of devoted and compassionate service to others, as a healer, physician, social worker, or minister. However, you tend to give indiscriminately, to let others take advantage of your kindness, and to encourage the weak to remain so by becoming dependent upon you. You have little sense of boundaries, of limits, of knowing when to say "no". Moderation and self-discipline are not your strong points. ? ? You are a lover and a peacemaker rather than a fighter, and you try to avoid open conflict. You will patiently ignore or "tune out" problems and hope they will go away by themselves, rather than directly confronting them, and you tend to lack the positive fighting spirit that is sometimes necessary to overcome challenges. You are fluid, open, nonresistant, and somewhat passive. You do things in a subtle, often covert, manner. ? ? Your gifts may also lie in the realm of the creative, artistic, or musical, for you have a great sensitivity, inspiration, and limitless imagination. You respond very strongly to beauty and to love. ? ? Your faults include a tendency to be lazy and negligent, and to wallow in self-pity rather than taking strong, definite action to change your life for the better. You also tend to become so detached from your immediate environment that you live in a disorderly, chaotic sort of hodgepodge, though this probably bothers those around you more than it bothers you. Moon in Virgo: ? ? You are very sensitive, cautious, and shy about showing others your feelings. Though you may love and care for someone a great deal, you rarely express those feelings openly and freely. Very often your love for someone will be expressed by trying to help them, doing something tangible to benefit them, or serving them in some way. ? ? It is also difficult for you to receive warmth, affection, or appreciation, for you often feel that you don't really deserve it or that "they don't really mean it". You can therefore seem rather cool and aloof, much more so than you feel. ? ? A deeply ingrained critical attitude often makes you difficult to live with. You need to learn to be gentler and less of a perfectionist with others and with yourself.? Ascendant in Cancer: ? ? You appear gentle and soft, and you act rather reserved with others until you know them well and feel it is safe to be open with them. You have a strong need for emotional security and a sense of belonging, and are deeply attached to the past: your heritage, roots, family, cherished friends, familiar places, etc. Making radical changes or moves away from what is known and safe can be very painful and difficult for you. You tend to cling and hold on to people, memories, possessions of personal or sentimental significance. Having a home, a safe haven, is very important to you. ? ? You approach life emotionally and subjectively and are sensitive to the emotional atmosphere, the subtle undercurrents of feeling in and around you. Instinctive and nonrational, you are often unable to give a clear, simple explanation for your actions. Something FEELS right, or it doesn't. ? ? Your emotions and personal loyalties tend to color your thoughts and opinions. You view life from a very personal perspective and often cannot mentally detach yourself from your own personal bias and prejudices. You are apt to be concerned primarily with how something affects you and those dear and close to you, rather than with the principle or the broader social implications. For instance, you may be very patriotic and feel that whatever "my country" does is right without really knowing much about the other nation's policies or point of view. Put simply: if it is good for me and mine, it is good. If it is not good for me and mine, it is no good. ? ? You are tenaciously loyal, protective, and supportive of those you care about, and have a very strong nurturing, motherly nature (regardless of your gender). You empathize with others and intuitively sense the feelings and needs of other people. Compassionate and sympathetic, you are easily moved by others' pain, and you are often the one others seek out when they need comfort, reassurance, or help. ? ? Your moods fluctuate and change frequently and you are sometimes open, sometimes withdrawn emotionally. You communicate nonverbally and appreciate a person who can pick up subtle cues and hints, rather than having to make everything explicit. ? ? You never forget either kindness or unkindness shown to you.? Sun Opposite Moon: ? ? Your conscious intentions and goals are frequently opposed by your unconscious beliefs and desires. If you override your instincts and emotions because they seem to lead you in a direction diametrically opposed to the one you consciously desire, your emotions can become unruly. Poor relationships with women and/or difficulties in close one-to-one relationships are also an indication that you are doing this. However, if you attend to your emotional urges and feelings, and listen to the voice of your intuition, dreams, and gut feelings, they will give your life balance and greater satisfaction. Sun Conjunct Mercury: ? ? You tend to see things from your perspective only and to be rather subjective. You also enjoy talking and expressing your views but you don't always listen as well. You have a clear mind, a love of learning and new experiences, and need constant mental stimulation and activity.? Sun Semisquare Venus: ? ? You are loving and well-loved by others, and have a strong need for kindness, friendship, and affection. Your artistic and creative powers are also well developed and you do everything in a harmonious, gracious, pleasing manner. Aesthetics are very important to you. Your personal appearance and attractiveness are also very important to you.? Sun Opposite Mars: ? ? Highly competitive and easily provoked, you need challenges and opponents to pit yourself against. You thrive on contests and rivalry. At times your vigorous, combative way of achieving the things you want antagonizes other people. If you use force too often, others will turn against you and oppose you at every turn.? Sun Opposite Jupiter: ? ? You aim high, dream big dreams, and have a tremendous sense of what is possible for you to achieve. Overconfidence, grandiosity, lack of humility, and/or extreme discontent in modest circumstances may be your faults. Generally, however, your great expectations and enterprising spirit lead to success. Business, especially when there is an element of risk and speculation, suits you well.? Sun Trine Ascendant: ? ?? You radiate a sense of pride, self-assurance, and a definite awareness of your own importance. It is hard to ignore you when you are present, and your personality may overshadow or dominate the scene. Sun Conjunct Midheaven: ? ?? Positions of honor, affluence, influence, and stature in your community can be yours. You feel you have a destiny which involves leadership or distinguishing yourself in some line of endeavor. You possess an innate sense of greatness or importance, and a strong drive to achieve recognition for your talent. Avoid excessive egotism and arrogant pride, for these could limit your opportunities.? Moon Sesquiquadrate Venus: ? ? You have conflicting emotional desires and needs which complicate your personal life. You may feel that you cannot depend on your love partner to take care of you or perhaps you cannot decide what you really want in a love relationship: a parent or a lover. If your needs for emotional sustenance and love are not satisfied, overeating (especially sweets) can be a problem for you. Moon Conjunct Mars: ? ? You feel that you must always be DOING something, and become impatient and irritable if you have to slow down or wait for anything. A stormy home life may be the result of your own tendency to fight for what you want, rather than compromise. You may not realize how competitive you are.? Moon Conjunct Jupiter: ? ? You are tolerant and forgiving, always ready to overlook mistakes and give others a second chance. You expect the best from people and draw it out of them, and you enjoy making others comfortable and happy. Because of your emotional generosity, your life is rich with friends, and often financial blessings as well. Moon Semisquare Pluto: ? ? You have intense desires and feelings and your personal relationships are deeply emotional, passionate, and often stormy and painful as well. There are powerful magnetic ties between yourself and those you care about, and you could become emotionally obsessed by another person. Your feelings can become so urgent and compelling that you do things that are not rational. You undergo periodic emotional upheavals and purging, when you must break all ties, release the past and begin anew. Moon Conjunct Node: ? ? Care for and nourish children, plants, pets, or other people, make a home, create and sustain strong ties with your family or a community which can support and give you a sense of safety and belonging. ? ? Develop your listening skills. Deepen your understanding and appreciation of women and of a woman's perspective. Learn to trust your own feelings, intuitions, and emotional needs. Care for yourself in an accepting, nonjudgmental way. ? ? Take all of what is good and helpful from your past and use it in a new way. (If you are so inclined, you may want to explore the potentials of past-life regression to tap into gifts you have already developed). Moon Sextile Ascendant: ? ?? Your emotional instincts, feelings, and intuition play a big part in the decisions you make and how you interact with the world, and generally your feelings are quite accurate and helpful to you. Also, establishing emotional rapport with the people you meet on a day to day level is rather easy for you. You appear somewhat sympathetic and concerned, so that others are drawn to you, especially when they need guidance or help.? Moon Opposite Midheaven: ? ?? Maybe the most important factor in your choice of career and your success or lack of it is having a strong home base. Family support is crucial to you, and you would not sacrifice your family for any sort of advantage or achievement in the outside world. If you have a solid foundation and healthy relationships with your parents, you are likely to fulfill any aspirations you have for accomplishment.? Uranus Sesquiquadrate Ascendant: ? ?? You seem quirky, unusual, offbeat and "different". Sometimes it seems you are trying to provoke people and upset the status quo just by being yourself. You tend to be restless, excitable, and somewhat ungrounded or nervous as well.? ?? Copyright (c) 2000 Astrology 3D, Inc. This report was written to professional astrological standards, and is meant for Awareness Entertainment. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Mon Mar 12 18:44:15 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:44:15 EST Subject: SHIP: Ron/Hermione Relationship Chart Using 1979 as Hermione's Birth Year Message-ID: <4c.11f5f044.27de72ff@aol.com> The following astrological chart was prepared by Awarenet, a website that has an easy to use form to calculate a variety of astrological charts (both for free and for a fee). The opinions and observations presented in this chart are those of Awarenet, not of the person posting it. ***This chart was not prepared by me and does not in any way reflect my opinions concerning any of the characters.*** My intention in posting the chart is that it be used for fun discussion purposes and not that it be taken seriously. As we don't know the characters' birthtimes, portions of this chart may incorrect. I used 12:00 p.m. as the birthtime to calculate what Awarenet calls a "natural" chart. The most likely portions to be affected by birthtime are the moon and ascendant. I have used London as the birthplace for all characters born in England because it is contained in Awarenet's database and shares the same time zone with all other cities in England. Awarenet's URL is: www.awarenet.com Positions for Ron Weasley and Hermione Chart Comparison Interpretation for Ron Weasley and Hermione Ron Weasley born 3/01/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: 0) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 11 Pisces 4? ? 7S25 ?? Moon? ? 6 Virgo 59? ? 9N36 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Pisces 58? ? 0S45 ?? Venus? ? 24 Aries 0? ? 10N00 ?? Mars? ? 3 Virgo 42? ? 14N10 ?? Jupiter? ? 4 Virgo 32? ? 11N04 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 37? ? 4N20 ?? Uranus? ? 25 Scorpio 34? ? 18S53 ?? Neptune? ? 22 Sagittarius 32? ? 21S52 ?? Pluto? ? 21 Libra 19? ? 7N55 ?? Node? ? 28 Leo 42? ? 11N56 ?? Ascendant? ? 10 Cancer 38? ? 23N01 ?? Midheaven? ? 7 Pisces 36? ? 8S43 Hermione Granger born 9/19/1979 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: -1) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 25 Virgo 55? ? 1N37 ?? Moon? ? 4 Virgo 46? ? 9N27 ?? Mercury? ? 1 Libra 12? ? 0N34 ?? Venus? ? 2 Libra 41? ? 0N07 ?? Mars? ? 26 Cancer 44? ? 21N41 ?? Jupiter? ? 28 Leo 0? ? 12N53 ?? Saturn? ? 18 Virgo 22? ? 6N17 ?? Uranus? ? 18 Scorpio 11? ? 16S58 ?? Neptune? ? 17 Sagittarius 51? ? 21S30 ?? Pluto? ? 18 Libra 9? ? 8N12 ?? Node? ? 7 Virgo 23? ? 8N48 ?? Ascendant? ? 20 Scorpio 56? ? 17S59 ?? Midheaven? ? 11 Virgo 8? ? 7N23 Hermione Granger's Sun in Virgo and Ron Weasley's Sun in Pisces:? ?? While Hermione Granger is very uncomfortable with ambiguity and is always categorizing and organizing life into clearly defined compartments, Ron Weasley is quite content to absorb lots of seemingly contradictory ideas without having an urgent need to reconcile them. Hermione Granger likes to carve out an area of life and specialize in it, developing skill and expertise in this well-defined domain, whereas Ron Weasley tends to drift among a wider variety of interests. Hermione Granger likes a neat, tidy, orderly environment, whereas Ron Weasley's natural habitat is cluttered, sloppy, even chaotic to an outside observer. Ron Weasley is more poetic while Hermione Granger is more comfortable in the world of facts. Your differences do not necessarily conflict with each other and there is a good possibility that you will appreciate and understand each other sufficiently to harmonize well. Neither of you is extremely ambitious or egocentric; both are gentle, even shy people, and your sensitivity is a plus in this relationship. Ron Weasley's Moon in Virgo and Hermione Granger's Moon in Virgo:? ?? You have very similar temperaments, so you understand one another quite well, but you also share the same weaknesses. Both of you have refined sensitivities and are quite particular and discriminating in your tastes, your personal habits, your diet, etc. Your less than desirable habits or tendencies include being overly fastidious and finicky, compulsively worrying about mistakes, focusing on problems and flaws instead of successes, and demanding perfection of yourself and others. Both of you can be difficult to live with! You should avoid nagging one another over trivialities. ? ? On the positive side, you will lavish care and devotion on the people and things that are important to you. Behind a rather unemotional, efficient manner, you are both quite giving and concerned with others' well being.? Ron Weasley's Sun in Hermione Granger's 3rd house:? ?? Ron Weasley openly shares thoughts and ideas with Hermione Granger, and the two of you love to share ideas, perhaps even gossip together. Hermione Granger's Sun in Ron Weasley's 4th house:? ?? Hermione Granger is able to confide in Ron Weasley, and your relationship is a very personal, intimate one. Ron Weasley brings out Hermione Granger's softer side. You are drawn to live together and share a home together. Ron Weasley's Moon in Hermione Granger's 9th house:? ?? Ron Weasley is very supportive and sympathetic towards Hermione Granger's aspirations, religious beliefs, political perspective, and overall outlook on life. Hermione Granger appreciates Ron Weasley's encouragement but may wish that Ron Weasley also took a greater interest in Hermione Granger's personal feelings and more immediate, personal problems and concerns. Hermione Granger's Moon in Ron Weasley's 3rd house:? ?? There is a natural smoothness and ease with which Hermione Granger can express ideas and concern to Ron Weasley, which fosters a warm friendship between you. Composite Chart Interpretation for Ron Weasley/Hermione Gran? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 18 Sagittarius 30? ? 2S54 ?? Moon? ? 6 Virgo 7? ? 9N27 ?? Mercury? ? 25 Sagittarius 37? ? 0S06 ?? Venus? ? 13 Cancer 22? ? 5N03 ?? Mars? ? 15 Leo 13? ? 17N55 ?? Jupiter? ? 1 Virgo 16? ? 11N58 ?? Saturn? ? 21 Virgo 30? ? 5N18 ?? Uranus? ? 21 Scorpio 52? ? 17S55 ?? Neptune? ? 20 Sagittarius 11? ? 21S41 ?? Pluto? ? 19 Libra 44? ? 8N03 ?? Node? ? 3 Virgo 2? ? 10N22 ?? Ascendant? ? 21 Virgo 10? ? 1N16 ?? Midheaven? ? 17 Sagittarius 30? ? 3S50 Sun Conjunct Mercury: ? ?? Yours is an intellectual relationship, among other things. Exchanging thoughts, studying together, sharing information, talking and bantering, turning one another on to new books or ideas, sparking one another's curiosity and interest in the world? all of these are important aspects of your relationship. A certain detachment and the ability to think about and talk about what is going on between you are also highlighted. Put simply, becoming more conscious or more informed and educated is a significant reason the two of you are drawn together. Sun Trine Mars: ? ?? Together, you will be dynamic, energetic, bold, and able to accomplish a great deal. You may find that spending a lot of time together gives you more energy and more desire to do and to achieve. You excel together in athletics, vigorous outdoor activities, and the like. ? ? Part of the essence of your relationship has to do with fostering confidence and a positive, active approach to life. You enable each other to be assertive, and to feel proud of yourselves and your achievements.? Sun Square Saturn: ? ?? The necessity to get down to business, to work hard, and to be responsible adults is an essential aspect of your relationship. When the two of you are together a sense of heaviness, seriousness, purpose, or obligation weighs in on you, so it is not always pleasant to be around one another. You demand much? sometimes too much? of one another and of your relationship. One or both of you may become overly critical, oppressive, and restrictive toward the other. Financial hardships and burdens, difficult circumstances such as a chronic health problem, or other "battles" which require patience, endurance, forebearance, and toughness are also likely. Part of the purpose of this relationship is to develop these qualities within you both. While unlikely to be an easy relationship, it can be characterbuilding and ultimately strengthening. Sun Conjunct Neptune: ? ?? The two of you idealize one another and your relationship. There is a fairy tale quality, a feeling of magic and enchantment, of uniting with your soul mate, that permeates your bond. A delicate and subtle rapport exists between you, which cannot be described in concrete terms except to refer to it as a soul connection. It's an intuitive knowing of one another, and a sense of blending together spiritually. ? ? However, because of the stars in your eyes you may not see one another very clearly. Your True Love may disappoint you with very human imperfections, flaws, and inadequacies things you may take in stride with other people, but for some reason with this person seem like a terrible betrayal. If you can love one another unconditionally, including all of one another's human frailties, you will fulfill the purpose of this relationship. Neither of you needs to be a saint or a martyr for one another just be yourselves! ? ? Another potential pitfall for the two of you is to encourage in each other excessive idealism, false hope, unrealisti fantasies, and an urge to escape into paradise. Try to keep your feet on the ground while at the same time pursuing the many dreams you will have together. As a couple, the ocean or seaside is very beneficial to you.? Sun Sextile Pluto: ? ?? You are undeniably a powerful duo, and the way you relate to one another affects the people around you much more than you realize. You tend to evoke either great admiration or great envy, because of the intensity of your bond. ? ? You cannot avoid learning one another's deepest fears, desires, motives, and aspects of one another that few others have ever seen. You can't hide much from one another. This won't trouble you but instead will be the basis of an especially profound relationship. ? ? Fateful, unexpected events which are very much beyond your control will shape your relationship to a significant extent. Moon Conjunct Jupiter: ? ?? You are destined to bring many wonderful blessings into one another's lives, and to prosper together. Material wellbeing and comfort will never be a problem; when you are together you'll always have plenty and be well taken care of. You bounce back from misfortune rapidly, and are able to support and uplift one another during bad times. In general, being together increases your optimism and positive feelings about life. As a couple you will be known for your good humor, generosity, hospitality, and warmth. Others will feel more expansive in your company. If you share a home, it will be spacious, welcoming, and very comfortable? the source of a great deal of satisfaction for you both. You will do quite a bit of traveling together, but always return to the "little piece of heaven" you create together. ? ? You are very encouraging and supportive of one another, and your bond will be a delightful one, emotionally rich and full. Moon Semisquare Pluto: ? ?? When you are together, deep emotions and intense, compelling, irrational energies within both of you come into play. Definitely, if you are together for any length of time, you will both undergo an emotional transformation, a soul cleansing, for being together will dredge up all of your unfinished emotional business and feelings you may not even have believed yourselves capable of. This may feel like a "fatal attraction", one that is irresistable even if one or both of you wants to run the other way. ? ? A significant part of your purpose in coming together is to clear up and heal the past? old griefs, jealousies, wounds, and unresolved emotions, many of which you may have forgotten about until now! ? ? Certainly, no matter how long this relationship lasts, it will be a profound, intense one. Emotionally it may feel overwhelming at times. If any emotional manipulation, domination, or abuse occurs, you both need to step back and get a clear, objective third party to help you. At times you're both apt to feel that you're in over your heads. On the other hand, though you may go through extreme emotions, you can develop an incredibly close bond.? ?? Copyright (c) 2000 Astrology 3D, Inc. This report was written to professional astrological standards, and is meant for Awareness Entertainment. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Mon Mar 12 18:46:55 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:46:55 EST Subject: SHIP: Ron/Hermione Relationship Chart Using 1980 as Hermione's Birth Year Message-ID: The following astrological chart was prepared by Awarenet, a website that has an easy to use form to calculate a variety of astrological charts (both for free and for a fee). The opinions and observations presented in this chart are those of Awarenet, not of the person posting it. ***This chart was not prepared by me and does not in any way reflect my opinions concerning any of the characters.*** My intention in posting the chart is that it be used for fun discussion purposes and not that it be taken seriously. As we don't know the characters' birthtimes, portions of this chart may incorrect. I used 12:00 p.m. as the birthtime to calculate what Awarenet calls a "natural" chart. The most likely portions to be affected by birthtime are the moon and ascendant. I have used London as the birthplace for all characters born in England because it is contained in Awarenet's database and shares the same time zone with all other cities in England. Awarenet's URL is: www.awarenet.com Positions for Ron Weasley and Hermione Chart Comparison Interpretation for Ron Weasley and Hermione Ron Weasley born 3/01/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: 0) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 11 Pisces 4? ? 7S25 ?? Moon? ? 6 Virgo 59? ? 9N36 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Pisces 58? ? 0S45 ?? Venus? ? 24 Aries 0? ? 10N00 ?? Mars? ? 3 Virgo 42? ? 14N10 ?? Jupiter? ? 4 Virgo 32? ? 11N04 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 37? ? 4N20 ?? Uranus? ? 25 Scorpio 34? ? 18S53 ?? Neptune? ? 22 Sagittarius 32? ? 21S52 ?? Pluto? ? 21 Libra 19? ? 7N55 ?? Node? ? 28 Leo 42? ? 11N56 ?? Ascendant? ? 10 Cancer 38? ? 23N01 ?? Midheaven? ? 7 Pisces 36? ? 8S43 Hermione Granger born 9/19/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: -1) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 26 Virgo 39? ? 1N20 ?? Moon? ? 19 Capricorn 3? ? 19S28 ?? Mercury? ? 14 Libra 59? ? 6S19 ?? Venus? ? 12 Leo 35? ? 16N10 ?? Mars? ? 14 Scorpio 7? ? 16S38 ?? Jupiter? ? 22 Virgo 5? ? 4N06 ?? Saturn? ? 29 Virgo 46? ? 1N59 ?? Uranus? ? 22 Scorpio 36? ? 18S11 ?? Neptune? ? 20 Sagittarius 0? ? 21S43 ?? Pluto? ? 20 Libra 37? ? 7N18 ?? Node? ? 18 Leo 0? ? 15N26 ?? Ascendant? ? 21 Scorpio 27? ? 18S08 ?? Midheaven? ? 11 Virgo 56? ? 7N05 Hermione Granger's Sun in Virgo and Ron Weasley's Sun in Pisces:? ?? While Hermione Granger is very uncomfortable with ambiguity and is always categorizing and organizing life into clearly defined compartments, Ron Weasley is quite content to absorb lots of seemingly contradictory ideas without having an urgent need to reconcile them. Hermione Granger likes to carve out an area of life and specialize in it, developing skill and expertise in this well-defined domain, whereas Ron Weasley tends to drift among a wider variety of interests. Hermione Granger likes a neat, tidy, orderly environment, whereas Ron Weasley's natural habitat is cluttered, sloppy, even chaotic to an outside observer. Ron Weasley is more poetic while Hermione Granger is more comfortable in the world of facts. Your differences do not necessarily conflict with each other and there is a good possibility that you will appreciate and understand each other sufficiently to harmonize well. Neither of you is extremely ambitious or egocentric; both are gentle, even shy people, and your sensitivity is a plus in this relationship. Ron Weasley's Moon in Virgo and Hermione Granger's Moon in Capricorn:? ?? You understand one another very well, for you have very similar temperaments, and your responses to people and to situations are quite similar. Both of you are practical and hard-working, with a strong need to be useful and productive, and to accomplish something concrete. Work, responsibilities, or business come before pleasure and play for both of you, and you may neglect your emotional needs. You downplay feelings and desires that seem childish or unrealistic. ? ? Both of you have a strong need for material security, and very much prefer a safe, logical, and well-defined path, rather than taking risks. ? ? You are responsible in your dealings with others. In fact, you share a tendency to be overly conscientious, to expect too much from yourselves, and to be far too harsh with yourselves at times. ? ? Faithfulness and constancy in love and friendship are very important to you both, and you naturally feel very comfortable together, knowing you can trust one another to be reliable. ? ? Sometimes your relationship may become dry - all work and no play. You both need to relax more, and to pay more attention to your fun-loving, emotional side. Ron Weasley's Sun in Hermione Granger's 3rd house:? ?? Ron Weasley openly shares thoughts and ideas with Hermione Granger, and the two of you love to share ideas, perhaps even gossip together. Hermione Granger's Sun in Ron Weasley's 4th house:? ?? Hermione Granger is able to confide in Ron Weasley, and your relationship is a very personal, intimate one. Ron Weasley brings out Hermione Granger's softer side. You are drawn to live together and share a home together. Ron Weasley's Moon in Hermione Granger's 9th house:? ?? Ron Weasley is very supportive and sympathetic towards Hermione Granger's aspirations, religious beliefs, political perspective, and overall outlook on life. Hermione Granger appreciates Ron Weasley's encouragement but may wish that Ron Weasley also took a greater interest in Hermione Granger's personal feelings and more immediate, personal problems and concerns. Hermione Granger's Moon in Ron Weasley's 7th house:? ?? Hermione Granger is more willing to cooperate and make compromises with Ron Weasley than with most other people. Hermione Granger often plays a supportive role to Ron Weasley, quietly providing assistance and support to Ron Weasley. This will be true even if your relationship is not a serious or permanent one.? Composite Chart Interpretation for Ron Weasley/Hermione Gran? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 18 Sagittarius 53? ? 3S03 ?? Moon? ? 13 Scorpio 17? ? 4S55 ?? Mercury? ? 2 Capricorn 30? ? 3S32 ?? Venus? ? 18 Gemini 19? ? 13N04 ?? Mars? ? 8 Libra 55? ? 1S14 ?? Jupiter? ? 13 Virgo 18? ? 7N35 ?? Saturn? ? 27 Virgo 11? ? 3N09 ?? Uranus? ? 24 Scorpio 5? ? 18S32 ?? Neptune? ? 21 Sagittarius 16? ? 21S47 ?? Pluto? ? 20 Libra 58? ? 7N36 ?? Node? ? 23 Leo 21? ? 13N41 ?? Ascendant? ? 21 Virgo 26? ? 1N12 ?? Midheaven? ? 17 Sagittarius 55? ? -4N00 Sun Opposite Venus: ? ?? Quite simply, one of your purposes in being together is to create and express beauty, whether this is in the form of a beautiful, loving relationship, or gracious and artful works. There can also be an element of vanity, artifice, or showoffiness? the desire to be seen and recognized as a Beautiful Couple, whether or not that's entirely true. Hiding or downplaying your difficulties and the "uglies" in your relationship may be helpful to a point, but if you try to maintain this image of yourselves as a happy, loving twosome despite your actual conflicts, then deeper troubles may never get attended to. However, whatever friction, dissonance, or ill will develops between you, there will also always be an urge to harmonize, reconcile, and ease your differences, and to create cooperation. It will take a lot for the two of you to ever turn against each other entirely. Sun Conjunct Neptune: ? ?? The two of you idealize one another and your relationship. There is a fairy tale quality, a feeling of magic and enchantment, of uniting with your soul mate, that permeates your bond. A delicate and subtle rapport exists between you, which cannot be described in concrete terms except to refer to it as a soul connection. It's an intuitive knowing of one another, and a sense of blending together spiritually. ? ? However, because of the stars in your eyes you may not see one another very clearly. Your True Love may disappoint you with very human imperfections, flaws, and inadequacies things you may take in stride with other people, but for some reason with this person seem like a terrible betrayal. If you can love one another unconditionally, including all of one another's human frailties, you will fulfill the purpose of this relationship. Neither of you needs to be a saint or a martyr for one another just be yourselves! ? ? Another potential pitfall for the two of you is to encourage in each other excessive idealism, false hope, unrealisti fantasies, and an urge to escape into paradise. Try to keep your feet on the ground while at the same time pursuing the many dreams you will have together. As a couple, the ocean or seaside is very beneficial to you.? Moon Sextile Jupiter: ? ?? Part of the purpose of your relationship is to simply enjoy your lives together and to have fun. Together you will expand your social circle, and broaden your contacts with the world in many ways. As a couple, you may do more traveling for pleasure than you would ever do as individuals. ? ? Play, humor, laughter, and exuberant good spirits permeate your relationship. You take more risks, spend more money on fun and adventure, and generally have a good time together. It is easy, comfortable, and relaxing to be with one another; you cheer one another up. Being together makes you both feel good, and this will have positive effects on your health and overall success in life, the more you are together.? Moon Semisquare Saturn: ? ?? The fate of this relationship is not especially promising, at least as far as emotional satisfaction, closeness, and intimacy is concerned. It is very difficult for you to feel and to stay emotionally connected and open to one another. You are oversensitive to criticism and lack of support from one another, and this could become a major, separative issue between you. Through this relationship you are intended to learn about those aspects of yourselves that cause you the most difficulty, discomfort, fear, and insecurity, the barriers you have to being to close? and you evoke all of these things in one another. It is much more common to shut down and withdraw from one another in such a situation than to see it as an opportunity to learn about your weaknesses. ? ? You will not be able to totally relax and "give in" to this relationship. Emotionally you will be forced to take care of yourself, and this can be quite fruitful, especially if you have been excessively childlike and dependent. Nevertheless, it won't be a lot of fun. Ultimately, you both may just feel lonely in this relationship. Moon Conjunct Uranus: ? ?? You are destined to have an unpredictable, untraditional and rather unstable emotional connection. It may seem odd to many people? even to yourselves? that you are together. As a couple, you seem to break all the rules and stereotypes of how a twosome should behave. Your living situation may be unconventional or atypical in some way, or you may constantly uproot yourselves, or your plans for a peaceful, settled, "normal" life together may never work out. ? ? Excitement, experimentation, and a radical departure from old ways of life characterize your bond. One of the purposes of the two of you being together is to challenge all of the old patterns and conditioning you both carry. While disturbing at times, this can also be very liberating. Emotional freedom is a lot of what this relationship is about. ?? Copyright (c) 2000 Astrology 3D, Inc. This report was written to professional astrological standards, and is meant for Awareness Entertainment. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 18:50:34 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:50:34 -0000 Subject: Double-Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <98gtir+rlpp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98j5pq+j4kj@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > > "What happening to Fawkes?" cried Harry ashenly. "That's just > natural with a Phoenix," replied Dumbledore fierily. > > "Did you hear about Lupin's decision?" asked Ron resignedly. "And > just when he was going to teach us how to stop Boggarts from > changing their shape," sighed Harry shiftlessly. > Nice ones! Wotan. From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Mon Mar 12 18:50:09 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:50:09 EST Subject: SHIP: Relationship Chart for Harry/Ron Message-ID: The following astrological chart was prepared by Awarenet, a website that has an easy to use form to calculate a variety of astrological charts (both for free and for a fee). The opinions and observations presented in this chart are those of Awarenet, not of the person posting it. ***This chart was not prepared by me and does not in any way reflect my opinions concerning any of the characters.*** My intention in posting the chart is that it be used for fun discussion purposes and not that it be taken seriously. As we don't know the characters' birthtimes, portions of this chart may incorrect. I used 12:00 p.m. as the birthtime to calculate what Awarenet calls a "natural" chart. The most likely portions to be affected by birthtime are the moon and ascendant. I have used London as the birthplace for all characters born in England because it is contained in Awarenet's database and shares the same time zone with all other cities in England. Awarenet's URL is: www.awarenet.com Positions for Harry Potter and Ron Weas Chart Comparison Interpretation for Harry Potter and Ron WeasHarry Potter born 7/31/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: -1) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 8 Leo 22? ? 18N10 ?? Moon? ? 27 Pisces 39? ? 3S53 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Cancer 0? ? 20N07 ?? Venus? ? 25 Gemini 32? ? 18N40 ?? Mars? ? 12 Libra 0? ? 4S42 ?? Jupiter? ? 11 Virgo 32? ? 8N12 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 0? ? 4N19 ?? Uranus? ? 21 Scorpio 30? ? 17S53 ?? Neptune? ? 20 Sagittarius 10? ? 21S42 ?? Pluto? ? 19 Libra 10? ? 8N07 ?? Node? ? 20 Leo 39? ? 14N37 ?? Ascendant? ? 16 Libra 57? ? 6S39 ?? Midheaven? ? 22 Cancer 16? ? 21N36 Tropical ZodiacRon Weasley born 3/01/1980 12:00 In London, UK (51N30 0W10 zone: 0) ? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 11 Pisces 4? ? 7S25 ?? Moon? ? 6 Virgo 59? ? 9N36 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Pisces 58? ? 0S45 ?? Venus? ? 24 Aries 0? ? 10N00 ?? Mars? ? 3 Virgo 42? ? 14N10 ?? Jupiter? ? 4 Virgo 32? ? 11N04 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 37? ? 4N20 ?? Uranus? ? 25 Scorpio 34? ? 18S53 ?? Neptune? ? 22 Sagittarius 32? ? 21S52 ?? Pluto? ? 21 Libra 19? ? 7N55 ?? Node? ? 28 Leo 42? ? 11N56 ?? Ascendant? ? 10 Cancer 38? ? 23N01 ?? Midheaven? ? 7 Pisces 36? ? 8S43 Tropical ZodiacHarry Potter's Sun in Leo and Ron Weasley's Sun in Pisces:? ?? A major difference between you is that Ron Weasley lacks Harry Potter's natural egocentricity, personal pride and ambition, and the need to feel important and special. Ron Weasley will not compete with Harry Potter, and is perfectly comfortable not being the one in the limelight. In fact, Ron Weasley has a passive streak and tends to recede into the background, avoiding intensely competitive situations where decisiveness and aggressiveness are required. Personal recognition is not that important to Ron Weasley. Harry Potter, on the other hand, loves to be noticed and appreciated, to be the center of attention, and tends to have an inflated sense of self-importance. ? ? Ron Weasley is gentle, receptive, compassionate, and very sensitive to the emotional tone in any relationship. Ron Weasley is attuned to the subtle signals, unspoken feelings and needs of a partner, while Harry Potter is a bit vague when it comes to such things. If you want or need something from Harry Potter, you must clearly say so. ? ? Ron Weasley's changeability, fluidity, elusiveness, sensitivity and awareness of subtlety fascinates or frustrates Harry Potter, who is a much more straightforward, uncomplicated creature. ? ? Also, Harry Potter can easily dominate or trample over Ron Weasley's feelings, and this can be the source of considerable unhappiness. Ron Weasley's Moon in Virgo and Harry Potter's Moon in Pisces:? ?? You are opposites in many ways, yet your differences can be complementary and you can certainly learn a lot from one another. ? ? Ron Weasley is factual, organized and efficient in dealing with material affairs, with an eye for details. Harry Potter is more imaginative and dreamy, and can be disorganized or foggy when it comes to practical matters. ? ? With Ron Weasley, intellect often rules emotions, but with Harry Potter feelings dominate. Harry Potter is sentimental and compassionate and may give unwisely or indiscriminately to people in need, with no sense of what is actually appropriate: Ron Weasley also has a helpful, nurturing side but is more dispassionate, and definitely knows when to stop. ? ? Also, Ron Weasley is highly perfectionistic and critical and often has impossibly strict or high standards for self or others to live up to. Harry Potter is the opposite: tolerant, accepting, non-judgmental, loose, often undisciplined. Ron Weasley is drawn to this quality of unconditional, uncritical acceptance in Harry Potter, and Harry Potter can benefit from Ron Weasley's sense of order, clarity and simplicity. ? ? Both of you are timid and even somewhat passive at times, with much sensitivity. Both are suited to work in the helping professions or along artistic lines (with Ron Weasley emphasizing technical ability and craftsmanship, Harry Potter emphasizing inspiration and imagination).? Harry Potter's Sun in Ron Weasley's 2nd house:? ?? Harry Potter takes a keen interest in Ron Weasley's finances, assets, and talents, and Harry Potter is likely to provide financial assistance and enthusiasm for Ron Weasley's projects and ambitions. Ron Weasley's Sun in Harry Potter's 5th house:? ?? Ron Weasley encourages Harry Potter's creative talents, and both of you are inspired to undertake joint creative projects. If you share a similar artistic or creative interest, then you certainly will work together and inspire each other tremendously along creative lines. You really enjoy each other's company and love to play games together. Harry Potter's Moon in Ron Weasley's 10th house:? ?? Harry Potter takes a great interest in Ron Weasley's career and reputation, and is likely to openly promote Ron Weasley's career, drawing recognition to Ron Weasley and "advertising" Ron Weasley's services and talents. Harry Potter may be less sensitive to Ron Weasley's inner feelings and personal needs.? Ron Weasley's Moon in Harry Potter's 11th house:? ?? You share a light-hearted, outgoing, friendly relationship. Even if your relationship becomes very close and intimate, you maintain a reasonable degree of objectivity about each other. The friendly feeling of comradery that you share makes your relationship enjoyable and fun, although Harry Potter may feel that you don't take enough time to share inner feelings and deeper concerns.? Composite Chart Interpretation for Harry Potter/Ron Weasley? ? ? ?? ?? Sun? ? 24 Taurus 41? ? 5N22 ?? Moon? ? 17 Gemini 4? ? 2N56 ?? Mercury? ? 19 Taurus 30? ? 9N42 ?? Venus? ? 24 Taurus 44? ? 14N19 ?? Mars? ? 22 Virgo 51? ? 4N44 ?? Jupiter? ? 8 Virgo 2? ? 9N38 ?? Saturn? ? 24 Virgo 19? ? 4N19 ?? Uranus? ? 23 Scorpio 32? ? 18S23 ?? Neptune? ? 21 Sagittarius 21? ? 21S47 ?? Pluto? ? 20 Libra 14? ? 8N01 ?? Node? ? 24 Leo 40? ? 13N16 ?? Ascendant? ? 22 Leo 12? ? 8N23 ?? Midheaven? ? 7 Taurus 4? ? 3N41 Tropical ZodiacSun Conjunct Mercury: ? ?? Yours is an intellectual relationship, among other things. Exchanging thoughts, studying together, sharing information, talking and bantering, turning one another on to new books or ideas, sparking one another's curiosity and interest in the world? all of these are important aspects of your relationship. A certain detachment and the ability to think about and talk about what is going on between you are also highlighted. Put simply, becoming more conscious or more informed and educated is a significant reason the two of you are drawn together. Sun Conjunct Venus: ? ?? Quite simply, one of your purposes in being together is to create and express beauty, whether this is in the form of a beautiful, loving relationship, or gracious and artful works. There can also be an element of vanity, artifice, or showoffiness? the desire to be seen and recognized as a Beautiful Couple, whether or not that's entirely true. Hiding or downplaying your difficulties and the "uglies" in your relationship may be helpful to a point, but if you try to maintain this image of yourselves as a happy, loving twosome despite your actual conflicts, then deeper troubles may never get attended to. However, whatever friction, dissonance, or ill will develops between you, there will also always be an urge to harmonize, reconcile, and ease your differences, and to create cooperation. It will take a lot for the two of you to ever turn against each other entirely. Sun Trine Mars: ? ?? Together, you will be dynamic, energetic, bold, and able to accomplish a great deal. You may find that spending a lot of time together gives you more energy and more desire to do and to achieve. You excel together in athletics, vigorous outdoor activities, and the like. ? ? Part of the essence of your relationship has to do with fostering confidence and a positive, active approach to life. You enable each other to be assertive, and to feel proud of yourselves and your achievements.? Sun Trine Saturn: ? ?? Longevity, stability, mutual conscientiousness and dedication are essential aspects of your relationship. The two of you can build something very solid together. A focus on the practical, on financial security, and on taking care of duties, obligations, and responsibilities permeates your bond with one another. You foster the conservative in one another, and develop a togetherness that is peaceful, steady, more inclined to contentment than to flamboyance or fireworks. The only pitfall in all of this is a tendency to fall into established patterns of being with one another which eventually become too predictable and too easy to take for granted. Nevertheless you are destined to have a longlasting relationship. Sun Opposite Uranus: ? ?? While there is potential for tremendous awakening, liberation, and freedom for you both in this relationship, the circumstances which foster these gifts will be unsettling, disorienting, and disruptive to your ordinary way of thinking about things. ? ? This is a relationship that may have struck like lightning out of the blue, and that will always have an element of unexpected surprise, unpredictability, and uncertainty. You will not ever settle down into a peaceful, secure, unchanging pattern with one another. If you both have a taste for adventure, and the capacity to adapt and move with the changes, this can be exciting. ? ? Others may view your way of being with one another as strange, even unnatural, because you don't conform to the "normal" patterns. There may even be a sudden break from a previous relationship or way of life, which shocks everyone around you. Even if the two of you consider yourselves to be fairly conventional, conservative, stable people, being together will shake and overturn a lot ot those patterns. This can be creative, freeing? or merely a wild episode that turns you upside down for awhile. Moon Opposite Neptune: ? ?? Hope, idealism, fantasy, and imagination permeate the atmosphere between you. Positively, your spiritual natures and your sensitivity to the concerns of your souls are stimulated. A desire to "make beautiful music together" (literally or figuratively) is emphasized, and this is one of the reasons you are together. ? ? However, the other possibility is that you misconstrue the facts or mislead one another to believe something that simply isn't so. Promises that turn out to be pure fantasy, unrealizable dreams, false hopes and expectations? these must be guarded against. In any case, you will idealize one another and your relationship, but try to be scrupulously and meticulously honest with one another as well.? Moon Trine Pluto: ? ?? Yours is destined to be a profound emotional union. There is a compelling, irresistable, intense desire to know one another deeply, and to be together. ? ? If you are seeking a light, casual relationship just for fun and good times, you may want to run away from this one if you can! Inevitably, you will have powerful feelings of attachment, even jealous possessiveness, toward one another. This needn't be troubling though. Mostly it's just a testament to your strong bond. ? ? If either or both of you tends to be too rational and intellectual, your relationship with one another will remedy that! You'll share deeper feelings and become much more open to your own inner emotional life through being together. In fact, you may well have come together after one or both of you suffered a significant loss or trauma, and were thus much more aware of your heart and feelings and those deeper concerns that crisis forces upon us. One of the purposes of your relationship is to experience the depths of which you are capable, with another person.? ?? Copyright (c) 2000 Astrology 3D, Inc. This report was written to professional astrological standards, and is meant for Awareness Entertainment. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wotan From john at walton.to Mon Mar 12 19:44:02 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:44:02 +0000 Subject: [Main List] CHAT: More info In-Reply-To: <98j6e0+dstk@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Steve Vander Ark wrote: > Oh boy, this is a biggie. We can now place the Marauders on the time > line. Okay, I'm going to be busy for a little while now. The heck > with work. > > Are there going to be transcripts available for these chats? Can > someone give me the "official" description (ie such and such a > channel at this time on this day, this programme, etc.) I need to > create an entry for the Lexicon sources of information. ::grins as he watches Steve drool on the keyboard:: Calmness. :) I only caught half of the TV interview, but that was on BBC1's "Blue Peter" programme at 5.35 pm GMT today, a special interview in aid of Comic Relief. Blue Peter, for those who don't know, is a well-loved British children's TV institution, loved about as much as Mr Rogers is in the USA. The presenters are all young (early 20s) and there are dogs and cats which belong to the show. The online chat, IIRC, can be found at www.bbc.co.uk/rednoseday. --John ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// John "Such a Witch!" Walton john at walton.to Remember: socks then shoes. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 12 20:12:05 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:12:05 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Uploaded pic is all well and good, but... References: <20010312140843.42478.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AAD2D94.4023C64E@texas.net> Point of logic. Neil is not, himself, in the bunny slippers. I feel cheated. --Amanda Sheryll Townsend wrote: > but... I'm still holding out for the promised > autographed copy of said photo. Neil, I think we're > all waiting . > > Sheryll > > ===== > "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and > taste good with ketchup." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Image]Register > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail3F.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailJS.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailJU.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 12 20:23:58 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:23:58 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH References: <98j6ak+d2vr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAD305E.9FBC2D25@texas.net> tanwo at hotmail.com wrote: > In the UK a 'gentle' is another name for a maggot. Not in the States I > guess! Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good night," don't it? --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 12 20:34:21 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:34:21 -0600 Subject: Phantom Tollbooth Message-ID: <3AAD32CC.E0451822@texas.net> Hi, a post from the intrepid heidi tandy over on the "real" list reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask. Does anyone have a copy of the Phantom Tollbooth sitting around where they can actually get to it? For some years, I've been trying to recall the name of one of the monsters that pursue Milo et al. as they run down from the Mountains of Ignorance at the end. I keep thinking the Bombastic Aghast, but that's Seussian, and every so often, this puzzle drives me to distraction. Can anyone save me? --Amanda From klaatu at primenet.com Mon Mar 12 20:53:44 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:53:44 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Phantom Tollbooth In-Reply-To: <3AAD32CC.E0451822@texas.net> Message-ID: Scanning quickly, I see: Triple Demons of Compromise Horrible Hopping Hindsight Gorgons of Hate and Malice Overbearing Know-it-all Gross Exaggeration Threadbare Excuse Terrible Trivium Gelatinous Giant Ugly Dilemma ====================================================== Evil Empress Notes on Fortress Construction: #2. My Command Center will have a heavily guarded room at the bottom of a 100 story subterranean shaft that will contain a sophisticated bus-sized computer with a fake encoded plan, no external link, and no real function whatsoever. The real command center will be a satellite-linked laptop on a card-table with a folding chair at the top of the elevator shaft, behind a door marked 'standpipe valves' accessible through the unlocked janitor's closet. ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Amanda Lewanski [mailto:editor at texas.net] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:34 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Phantom Tollbooth Hi, a post from the intrepid heidi tandy over on the "real" list reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask. Does anyone have a copy of the Phantom Tollbooth sitting around where they can actually get to it? For some years, I've been trying to recall the name of one of the monsters that pursue Milo et al. as they run down from the Mountains of Ignorance at the end. I keep thinking the Bombastic Aghast, but that's Seussian, and every so often, this puzzle drives me to distraction. Can anyone save me? --Amanda To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 11 16:10:56 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:10:56 +0200 Subject: is Jeralyn really *me*? Message-ID: Hi, I just went looking for the FAQs archive (didn't find it) and i stumbled into the birthdays table in the database. Jeralyn - it seems that in addition to all the similarities we've found so far, in addition to both of us having our superpower 'able to talk to animals' (haven't told you about that one yet), on top of everything, we also share a birthday . Mine's in 1972. Is that true in your case as well? Thanks, yael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being very well-dressed nails." - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Mon Mar 12 22:29:12 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:29:12 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Was ist das? References: Message-ID: <009b01c0ab43$dcddb610$2300a8c0@Shasta> Jen wrote, > With magical greetings [aw, that's cute] > Sophie from the HaD [?] Team HaD stands for Harry auf Deutsch, the troop of German nutcases who have tackled their very own "open source" translation of the entire HP series and have hence gone for PoU and DD. Cassie tried contacting them about their translation but never got through to anybody. I find their concept fascinating, though it's probably illegal ... Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 12 22:39:45 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:39:45 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Phantom Tollbooth References: Message-ID: <3AAD5031.579B4087@texas.net> Sister Mary Lunatic wrote: > Scanning quickly, I see: > > Triple Demons of Compromise > Horrible Hopping Hindsight > Gorgons of Hate and Malice > Overbearing Know-it-all > Gross Exaggeration > Threadbare Excuse > Terrible Trivium > Gelatinous Giant > Ugly Dilemma Alas, none of these ring the bell I'm after. It's not a creature they talk to; it's only mentioned in passing as one of the many pursuing them as they run away with the Princesses. I guess I've just got to bite the bullet and go get the book again; can you believe my original was bought in elementary school as a Scholastic Book Service purchase? Anybody else feel OLD? --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From voicelady at mymailstation.com Mon Mar 12 23:22:56 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 12 Mar 2001 15:22:56 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] is Jeralyn really *me*? Message-ID: <20010312232256.18834.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ebonyink at hotmail.com Mon Mar 12 23:46:53 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:46:53 -0000 Subject: Candles and Renewal Message-ID: <98jn5d+450o@eGroups.com> In honor of the release of the Comic Relief HP textbooks today, I wanted to post a poem and a story that always get me all weepy. Both are by Sharon Draper, 1997 U.S. Department of Education Teacher of the Year. Ms. Draper is also an award-winning YA novelist. (Yes, she's my role model.) Every person who works with children and teens should purchase Ms. Draper's book "Teaching From The Heart". It's awesome--just the sort of thing you want to read for a little pick-me-up on those Jonah days. The poem, "Candles", always reminds me of all children everywhere. Candles --by Sharon Draper This candle is Donna who is hurting and thin. This candle is Tina who tries but can never figure out the factor of ten. This candle is Lisa who lies. This candle is Robert who lives on a farm and Leon who lives all alone. It's Mona and Alex and Buddy and Kim whose gang friends have turned them to stone. This candle is Aswad and Chengli and Raul And Kelly and Kathy and Jean who share the same classroom and same childhood fears of monsters or hunger or dreams. This candle is teachers, who stay late at night grading papers or coaching a game, who never get glory or thank-yous or chalk but always live up to their name. If the glow from one candle can brighten a room the glow from three million can blind! And when one student smiles and says, "Hey, now I get it!" That candle makes all of us shine! === Ms. Draper always tells stories when she speaks, and this next one is my favorite. It reminds me of the poem, "The House By the Side of the Road"... can't remember the poet right now. In "Renewal", Misty is the archetypal child. Renewal --by Sharon Draper On the outskirts of the town in which a tiny girl named Misty lived, an old man, the oldest in town, labored alone near a large chasm. His back was bent with age, and his movements were slow and sometimes painful. But every day he could be seen, cane in one hand, hammer or saw in the other, trudging slowly to the spot near the wide valley. He cleared bushes, chopped trees, and sawed them into planks. Every day he worked silently in the hot sun or the cold rain, oblivious of travelers or distracters. Gradually it became clear what he was doing. He was building a bridge across the chasm. Little Misty rode her bicycle to that place one day. She watched the old man work, then asked him, "What are you doing, sir?" The old man stopped his hammering and smiled. "You are the first one to ask me what I'm doing," he declared. "So tell me," Misty repeated. "What are you building?" "I'm building a bridge," the old man said proudly. "Why?" Misty asked bluntly. "To build a path to the other side," the old man replied with just as much bluntness. "But you're *old*," Misty continued with the honesty of a child. "You won't have much chance to go on to the forest on the other side of the chasm." "You're right," the old man agreed. He was smiling. "I'll have very little need and very little reason to ever go across this bridge." "So why are you building it?" Misty asked. "Isn't that just a waste of time?" "No, my child," the old man replied, ever so gently. "I'm building this bridge for you." ------------- Thanks to Joanne Rowling, who is a world-famous author with a teacher's heart inside. It thrilled me to no end to read in the chat transcript that if she wasn't famous, she'd be teaching French in Edinburgh. :-) And continued grace and peace to all those the world over who have a heart for children. --Ebony AKA AngieJ "Dear Lord, be good to me... The sea is so wide and my boat is so small." --Motto, Children's Defense Fund, Washington, D.C. From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 00:00:59 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:00:59 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Sorting email References: <98jn5d+450o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <019c01c0ab50$b37cae40$8f14a3d1@doreen> To whomever told us about the capability of Internet Express to sort their email .. a MILLION MILLION thanks! So often my mail is jumbled with emails from family, a joke/cartoon list, and letters from friends, not to mention the many categories of the HPforGrownups group... ships, spoilers, HP & OT, Tom Swifties. Now, I have my message rules all set up to whisk the emails into their appointed slots... just hope it works .. if so I will be extremely happy! So thanks again. Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ebony AKA AngieJ" To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Candles and Renewal In honor of the release of the Comic Relief HP textbooks today, I wanted to post a poem and a story that always get me all weepy. Both are by Sharon Draper, 1997 U.S. Department of Education Teacher of the Year. Ms. Draper is also an award-winning YA novelist. (Yes, she's my role model.) Every person who works with children and teens should purchase Ms. Draper's book "Teaching From The Heart". It's awesome--just the sort of thing you want to read for a little pick-me-up on those Jonah days. The poem, "Candles", always reminds me of all children everywhere. Candles --by Sharon Draper This candle is Donna who is hurting and thin. This candle is Tina who tries but can never figure out the factor of ten. This candle is Lisa who lies. This candle is Robert who lives on a farm and Leon who lives all alone. It's Mona and Alex and Buddy and Kim whose gang friends have turned them to stone. This candle is Aswad and Chengli and Raul And Kelly and Kathy and Jean who share the same classroom and same childhood fears of monsters or hunger or dreams. This candle is teachers, who stay late at night grading papers or coaching a game, who never get glory or thank-yous or chalk but always live up to their name. If the glow from one candle can brighten a room the glow from three million can blind! And when one student smiles and says, "Hey, now I get it!" That candle makes all of us shine! === Ms. Draper always tells stories when she speaks, and this next one is my favorite. It reminds me of the poem, "The House By the Side of the Road"... can't remember the poet right now. In "Renewal", Misty is the archetypal child. Renewal --by Sharon Draper On the outskirts of the town in which a tiny girl named Misty lived, an old man, the oldest in town, labored alone near a large chasm. His back was bent with age, and his movements were slow and sometimes painful. But every day he could be seen, cane in one hand, hammer or saw in the other, trudging slowly to the spot near the wide valley. He cleared bushes, chopped trees, and sawed them into planks. Every day he worked silently in the hot sun or the cold rain, oblivious of travelers or distracters. Gradually it became clear what he was doing. He was building a bridge across the chasm. Little Misty rode her bicycle to that place one day. She watched the old man work, then asked him, "What are you doing, sir?" The old man stopped his hammering and smiled. "You are the first one to ask me what I'm doing," he declared. "So tell me," Misty repeated. "What are you building?" "I'm building a bridge," the old man said proudly. "Why?" Misty asked bluntly. "To build a path to the other side," the old man replied with just as much bluntness. "But you're *old*," Misty continued with the honesty of a child. "You won't have much chance to go on to the forest on the other side of the chasm." "You're right," the old man agreed. He was smiling. "I'll have very little need and very little reason to ever go across this bridge." "So why are you building it?" Misty asked. "Isn't that just a waste of time?" "No, my child," the old man replied, ever so gently. "I'm building this bridge for you." ------------- Thanks to Joanne Rowling, who is a world-famous author with a teacher's heart inside. It thrilled me to no end to read in the chat transcript that if she wasn't famous, she'd be teaching French in Edinburgh. :-) And continued grace and peace to all those the world over who have a heart for children. --Ebony AKA AngieJ "Dear Lord, be good to me... The sea is so wide and my boat is so small." --Motto, Children's Defense Fund, Washington, D.C. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 00:27:40 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:27:40 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ebony... References: <984181589.1126.29156.l10@yahoogroups.com> <000d01c0a90f$41c97820$d32c2241@se.mediaone.net> Message-ID: <015401c0ab54$69c49f70$2300a8c0@Shasta> Hey Eb, Everybody else has already said so too, so I'm being senselessly repetitious--but heck with netiquette. THANKS FOR THAT POST! I'd just got around to joining the chatter group, and it was the second thing I read (the first being a discussion of Neil in a hairnet and bunny slipper ... ) I'm afraid the excitement of those bunny slippers paled a bit in comparison! I spent my adolescence and teenage years in a town in southern Sicily, where my parents worked in a small church. While the violence was no where near what you describe (well, my next-door neighbor *was* gunned downed by mafia friends he had crossed ... ), well over half of the local economy functioned on a black market basis, unemployment was astronomically high, and it was impossible to get so much as an identity card with oiling a palm or two. The city was dirty, the streets were ruined, and the half-built skeletons of municipal building projects dominated the skyline till they crumbled and collapsed. But what your post got through to me is the worth, and even the beauty, of a harrowed culture. My parents never managed to connect with the people of Sciacca (they weren't very successful missionaries, either), and I never learned to see and love the town for what it was instead of despising it for whatever ideals it wasn't. My Sicilian friends certainly had a burning desire to survive, to savor every minute of life they could get, to improvise melodies that defied a life filled with jarring chords. Now I live in Switzerland; my wife is Swiss. It's perhaps the most perfectly manicured land in history. The beauty is easy enough to see. Yet they have some of the highest suicide and drug addiction rates in the world. They long considered themselves one of the most strictly moral countries in Europe (it is still illegal to wash your car on Sunday), yet they allowed the worlds' greatest tyrants to hide billions of dollars in anonymous bank accounts. Do I really love my charming Zrich suburb or do I just dig the scenery? One of my jobs (I juggle three) is as a youth worker. I often wonder what I am doing to help my kids love their culture yet see through its contradictions and dream of something truly beautiful. But I ramble! Anyway, thanks again for your post! Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From tanwo at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 00:51:01 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:51:01 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <3AAD305E.9FBC2D25@texas.net> Message-ID: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good night," > don't it? > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" Shakespeare???? In which case I offer you - "You were conducted to a gentle bath" (Coriolanus) Double-eeuuuww! Wotan :)) From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 01:41:23 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:41:23 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Phantom Tollbooth References: <3AAD32CC.E0451822@texas.net> Message-ID: <002e01c0ab5f$861156e0$3014a3d1@doreen> Dodecahedron? any of these? Milo, Tock/ Clock , Mathemagician, King Azaz, Humbug, Whether Man/ Gatekeeper/ Dodecahedron, Spelling Bee/ Kakofonous A. Discord, Princess Rhyme/ Citizen, Princess Reason / Voice/ Citizen, Senses Taker/ Citizen, Terrible Trivium/ Lethargarian/ Minister, Everpresent Wordsnatcher/ Lethargarian/ Minister, Awful Dynne/ Word Merchant/ Minister, Demon of Insincerity / Lethargarian/ Word Merchant/ Miner, Lethargarian/ Word Merchant/ Miner, Lethargarian/ Word Merchant, Lethargarian/ Citizen/ Miner, Page/ Citizen/ Miner, MicPage, Lethargarian/Citizen/Miner, Lethargarian/ Minister For some years, I've been trying to recall the name of one of the monsters that pursue Milo et al. as they run down from the Mountains of Ignorance at the end. I keep thinking the Bombastic Aghast, but that's Seussian, and every so often, this puzzle drives me to distraction. Can anyone save me? --Amanda To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 13 01:56:10 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:56:10 -0000 Subject: Phantom Tollbooth In-Reply-To: <002e01c0ab5f$861156e0$3014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98junq+ui5p@eGroups.com> What in the name of are you talking about? Best regards Christian Stub? --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: [snipped much absurdity] > For some years, I've been trying to recall the name of one of the > monsters that pursue Milo et al. as they run down from the > Mountains of Ignorance at the end. I keep thinking the Bombastic > Aghast, but that's Seussian, and every so often, this puzzle drives > me to distraction. Can anyone save me? > > --Amanda From lrcjestes at earthlink.net Tue Mar 13 02:18:38 2001 From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (lrcjestes at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:18:38 -0000 Subject: help on Brit speak Message-ID: <98k01u+ihjp@eGroups.com> Hi guys...this is to all you Brits: Is the expression: "I'm just the hired hand" something you guys would say? The context is a person commenting that they are just an employee and don't know the reasons behind certain work place decisions. If there is a better, more British way of saying this I'd appreciate the suggestion. thanks carole From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 02:19:50 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:19:50 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Phantom Tollbooth References: <98junq+ui5p@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAD83C5.12AA22FD@texas.net> pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no wrote: > What in the name of are you talking > about? The Phantom Tollbooth is a wonderful whimsical book about a little boy named Milo who is oh, so, bored with everything, and is transported via the Phantom Tollbooth to a world of watchdogs that tick, giant buzzing spelling bees, and kings with names like AZAZ and the Mathemagician. My copy is in storage, deep somewhere in a cardboard box, and I realized there might be others out there whose copies are more readily available, so I was trying to find the name of a monster in it. It might be the Everpresent Wordsnatcher, but that still doesn't feel right. Sorry, I can't recall the name of the author offhand. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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File : /Club_Humor/workrelated.jpg Uploaded by : pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Description : Work-related email indeed! ;-) You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/workrelated.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 13 02:27:59 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:27:59 -0000 Subject: God's TQM Questionnaire Message-ID: <98k0jf+3ejb@eGroups.com> This was passed along to me some time ago. GOD'S TOTAL QUALITY MANAGEMENT QUESTIONNAIRE God would like to thank you for your belief and patronage. In order to better serve your needs, God asks that you take a few moments to answer the following questions. Please keep in mind that your responses will be kept completely confidential, and that you need not disclose your name or address unless you prefer a direct response to comments or suggestions. 1. How did you find out about your Deity? ___ Newspaper ___ Bible ___ Torah ___ Book of Mormon ___ Koran ___ Divine inspiration ___ Dead Sea scrolls ___ My mama don tol' me ___ Near-death experience ___ Near-life experience ___ National Public Radio ___ Tabloid ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Other (specify): __________________ 2. Which model Deity did you acquire? ___ Yahweh ___ Allah ___ Krishna ___ Father, Son & Holy Ghost (Trinity Pak) ___ Zeus and entourage (Olympus Pak) ___ Odin and entourage (Valhalla Pak) ___ Gaia/Mother Earth/Mother Nature ___ None of the above; I was taken in by a false god 3. Did your god come to you undamaged, with all parts in good working order and with no obvious breakage or missing attributes? ___ Yes ___ No If not, please describe the problems you initially encountered here. Please indicate all that apply: ___ Not eternal ___ Not omniscient ___ Not omnipotent ___ Finite in space/Does not occupy or inhabit the entire universe ___ Permits sex outside of marriage ___ Prohibits sex outside of marriage ___ Makes mistakes (Geraldo Rivera, Jesse Helms) ___ When beseeched, doesn't stay beseeched ___ Requires burnt offerings ___ Requires virgin sacrifices ___ Plays dice with the universe 4. What factors were relevant in your decision to acquire a Deity? Please check all that apply. ___ Indoctrinated by parents ___ Indoctrinated by society ___ Needed a reason to live ___ Needed focus on whom to despise ___ Needed a day away from work ___ Needed to feel morally superior ___ Graduated from the tooth fairy ___ Wanted to meet girls/boys ___ Fear of death ___ Wanted to piss off parents ___ Like organ music ___ My shrubbery caught fire and told me to do it 5. Have you ever worshipped a Deity before? If so, by which false god were you fooled? Please check all that apply. ___ Mick Jagger ___ Bill Gates ___ Baal ___ Beelzebub ___ Ra ___ The Great Spirit ___ The Great Pumpkin ___ The almighty dollar ___ Left-wing liberalism ___ Right-wing radicalism ___ Elvis ___ Cindy Crawford ___ Chocolate ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Other: _______________________________ 6. Are you currently using any other source of inspiration in addition to God? Please check all that apply. ___ Tarot ___ Astrology ___ Palmistry ___ Tea leaves ___ Dianetics ___ Fortune cookies ___ Psychic Friends Network ___ Self-help books ___ Sex, drugs, rock and roll ___ Biorhythms ___ Alcohol ___ Bill Clinton ___ Jimmy Swaggert ___ CompuServe ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Other: ________________________________ 7. God employs a limited degree of divine intervention to preserve the balanced level of felt presence and blind faith. Which would you prefer? (circle one) a. More divine intervention b. Less divine intervention c. Current level of divine intervention is just right d. Don't know -- What's divine intervention? 8. God also attempts to maintain a balanced level of disasters and miracles. Please rate on a scale of 1 to 5 his handling of the following (1 unsatisfactory, 5 excellent): Disaster: 1 2 3 4 5 flood 1 2 3 4 5 famine 1 2 3 4 5 earthquake 1 2 3 4 5 war 1 2 3 4 5 pestilence 1 2 3 4 5 plague 1 2 3 4 5 AOL 1 2 3 4 5 Republican Congress 1 2 3 4 5 Jerry Lewis Miracles: 1 2 3 4 5 rescues 1 2 3 4 5 spontaneous remissions 1 2 3 4 5 crying statues 1 2 3 4 5 water changing to wine 1 2 3 4 5 walking on water 1 2 3 4 5 VCRs that set their own clocks 9. Please rate the following on a scale of 1 to 5 (1 unsatisfactory, 5 excellent): God's Courtesy 1 2 3 4 5 Are your spiritual needs being met? 1 2 3 4 5 10. Do you have any additional comments or suggestions for improving the quality of God's services? (Attach an additional sheet if ecessary.) ----------- Best regards Christian Stub? From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 13 02:28:50 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:28:50 -0000 Subject: The Ships that almost died of shame.... Message-ID: <98k0l2+tkq2@eGroups.com> The Ships that almost died of shame.... I NAME THIS SHIP........ Research, even into the most mundane subject, can sometimes bring unexpected rewards. Recently, for reasons too dull to explain, I was attempting to discover the names of battleships which served with the Royal Navy during the Second World War. The reference librarian hopefully provided me with a huge volume which listed the names of every British warship ever built, and as I leafed through the index, I was impressed by the quality of the names that the British have given their warships. HMS Relentless, HMS Repulse, HMS Resolution; fine names, names to gladden the heart of every true Brit and dismay any foreigners with a grasp of English. Names redolent of courage and firm-jawed determination - HMS Sceptre, HMS Scimitar, HMS Seadog, HMS Spanker - HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy. My first assumption was that these names had been chosen by some fresh faced innocent unaware of their connotations, but a careful reading of the index suggested that the choice of such names was deliberate and malicious. I have no proof for my theory, but I strongly suspect that they were the creations of an embittered clerk. He was a minor bureaucrat who had once dreamed of becoming a naval hero, a second Nelson or Benbow, but had been turned down for active service on the grounds of flat feet and myopia. The Sea Lords, kindly and foolishly, gave him an office job in the Admiralty. There, as he brooded upon the shattering of his ambitions, his envy of the jolly Jack Tars serving in His Majesty's ships turned to hatred and then into a desire to humiliate those who lived a life on the ocean wave. His big break came when he got a job in the Ship's Names Department and he set to work with a will. Having started with HMS Pansy, HMS Fairy and HMS Spanker, he moved into sexually suggestive names - HMS Teaser, HMS Tickler, HMS Torrid, HMS Thruster and HMS Thrasher. Not content with the damage to morale that these names must have caused to morale that these names must have caused he followed up with HMS Inconstant, HMS Insolent, HMS Truant, HMS Dwarf and HMS Doris. The man must have been twisted, but he was no mean amateur psychologist. Would an hard pressed admiral be cheered by the news that HMS Doris and HMS Dwarf (a cruiser and gunboat combination that sounds like an avant-garde cabaret act) were steaming to his aid ? Could he be certain that HMS Truant would turn up ? That HMS Inconstant wouldn't change sides, or that HMS Insolent wouldn't reply to his signals with a stream of abuse ? This evil minded functionary worked hard to destroy fighting spirit, carefully calculating the result of call a ship HMS Hazard. The cry, "Hazard to port !" must have disrupted countless naval exercises and I strongly suspect that he tried to name a destroyer HMS Mutiny, thinking of the chaos that would result from the signal "Mutiny in Portsmouth". Someone spotted this and changed his proposed name from the English Mutiny to the French Mutin?, hoping that the ship would stir up trouble on courtesy visits to French ports. If my theory is correct, that someone was Clerk No.2 he worked in the same office as Clerk No.1, but his history and beliefs were very different. He had been invalided out of the Navy after a distinguished career and was a ferocious xenophobe who believed that the British had the right to intimidate and bully anyone who stood in their way. his existence is demonstrated by further study of the list of names. Most people would consider names like HMS Conqueror, HMS Terror and HMS Vengeance adequate for the purpose of frightening Britain's enemies. Not Clerk No.2 he though them namby-pamby and decided to rectify the situation. He wasn't as prolific as Clerk No.1, but he did his best christening such vessels as HMS Arrogant, HMS Imperialist, HMS Savage, HMS Spiteful, HMS Surly and HMS Tyrant. His finest hour came when he got the job of thinking up names beginning with V, he came up with HMS Vandal, HMS Venomous, HMS Vindictive and HMS Violent. He too was a good psychologist - nobody who had dared to challenge Britain could fail to be moved by the news that HMS Spiteful, HMS Violent and HMS Vindictive were turning up to sort them out. In later years, as he sat writing letters to the Eastbourne Gazette demanding the introduction of public flogging for litter louts, he must have regretted not calling a ship HMS Vicious. However, he probably consoled himself with the thought that Clerk No.1 didn't get much of a look in on the V's. He would have christened the ships Vacuous, Vile, Verminous and Venereal. As it was he only managed HMS Vanity, which was presumably a sister ship of HMS Narcissus. Though Clerk No.2 no doubt deplored the behaviour of his colleague, he, too, allowed the problems of day-to-day existence to intrude into his work, though only after rows with his wife, hence HMS Termagant, HMS Virago and HMS Tirade. I don't know for how many years they worked in the same office, but it must have been a fraught relationship. Each probably spent most of his time trying to trump the names of the other. Clerk No.1 christened HMS Pansy, No.2 responded with HMS Manly. No.1 - HMS Fairy, No.2 - HMS Virle. And so it went on until they retired and the ships they had named were either sunk or scrapped. Now our ships have boringly correct names, which is a pity, for names could make a difference. A truly chauvinistic government would do well to study the names dreamed up by Clerk No.2. If we can no longer terrify opponents with the size of our navy, we could try to frighten them with aggressive nomenclature. A good start would be to retrieve the name HMS Violent and call sister ships HMS Psychopathic, HMS Blood Crazed and HMS Criminally Insane. The Vandal class could include HMS Ram Raider, HMS Headcase and HMS Terminator. Of course, a more progressive government might go for names which reflected the concerns of the Left - HMS Black Sections, HMS Stop Clause 28, HMS Unilateralist and HMS Binding Decision of the Party Conference. Perhaps not, the Daily Mail would have a field day if HMS Unilateralist was ever sunk. In any event, the name of the ship doesn't appear to have affected its ability to fight, HMS Truant sank the Karlsruhe, HMS Wallflower and HMS Inconstant accounted for several U-boats and I've do doubt that other ships with ridiculous names had excellent war records. But it is hard not to imagine the crew of HMS Narcissus leaning over the side to admire their reflections in the water, or the crew of HMS Spanker being accosted by leather-clad masochists in dockside bars. The crews of such ships must have been relieved when security considerations temporarily ended the practice of having the ship's name emblazoned on the cap-band. Even so, the change didn't come quickly enough for the unfortunate University Naval Reserve Unit which, when the orders for mobilisation came, was sent en masse to join a battleship. As they walked up the gangway the regulars on deck burst into hysterical laughter. The full name of the unit was the Cambridge University Naval Training Squadron, which was, of course indicated by the initials on their caps.......... Then again, it might be apocryphal. Taken from a magazine article by James Richards -------------------- Add to the above that the Royal navy had a clas of gunboats of which one was named HMS Gay Viking... I do not necessarily agree with every opinion of the author of this article. From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 02:35:32 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:35:32 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH References: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAD8774.FEE36AD2@texas.net> tanwo at hotmail.com wrote: > > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good > night," > > don't it? > > > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" > > Shakespeare???? No. Now this is going to drive me crazy. Not Edna St. Vincent-Millay, I don't think. It's the poem that ends "Rage, rage, against the fading of the light!" Not Browning. RRRRRRR. Who's the lady poet who wrote "Since I could not stop for Death, he kindly stopped for me"? I think it's her. And absolutely no brain cells interested in helping me out and giving me a hint of her name. I mean, I had to write a term paper about her. 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Sorry, I can't recall the name of the author. --Amanda Norton Juster, illustrated by Jules Feiffer, The Phantom Tollbooth "Finally, the intrepid three make their way to the Mountains of Ignorance, where they must avoid such demons as the Gross Exaggeration, the Overbearing Know-it-all and the Threadbare Excuse. They complete their quest, and Milo returns home much more interested in life and learning." How about one of these, Amanda? I am running out of search results. :) Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 03:19:34 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:19:34 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH References: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> <3AAD8774.FEE36AD2@texas.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c0ab6c$6f3f2200$3014a3d1@doreen> Sometimes, however, because is perfectly appropriate as the opening word of a sentence, as in the beginning of one of Emily Dickinson's best-known poems: "Because I could not stop for Death-/He kindly stopped for me." Doreen > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good night," > don't it? > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" Shakespeare???? No. Now this is going to drive me crazy. Not Edna St. Vincent-Millay, I don't think. It's the poem that ends "Rage, rage, against the fading of the light!" Not Browning. RRRRRRR. Who's the lady poet who wrote "Since I could not stop for Death, he kindly stopped for me"? I think it's her. And absolutely no brain cells interested in helping me out and giving me a hint of her name. I mean, I had to write a term paper about her. AAAAGH. parenthood...*gasp* must have adult conversation....ability to converse intelligently fading....*wheeze*...literary memories slipping away...(sinks into Disney-induced stupor) --Amanda Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It > might be the Everpresent Wordsnatcher, but that still > doesn't feel right. > > Sorry, I can't recall the name of the author. > > --Amanda > > Norton Juster, illustrated by Jules Feiffer, The Phantom > Tollbooth > > "Finally, the intrepid three make their way to the Mountains > of Ignorance, where they must avoid such demons as the Gross > Exaggeration, the Overbearing Know-it-all and the Threadbare > Excuse. They complete their quest, and Milo returns home > much more interested in life and learning." > > How about one of these, Amanda? I am running out of search > results. :) > > Doreen > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Classmates.com] Click here for Classmates.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailDQ.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailAQ.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 03:37:43 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:37:43 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Phantom Tollbooth References: <98junq+ui5p@eGroups.com> <3AAD83C5.12AA22FD@texas.net> <00b801c0ab6a$0080d4a0$3014a3d1@doreen> <3AAD9181.506B9510@texas.net> Message-ID: <00ea01c0ab6e$f7a03d80$3014a3d1@doreen> Well, they are all such interesting names. I bet JK read this book. I have never read it, but after doing the searches for your information, I am interested in reading it. I was looking for a space filler between now and November. I dont think the two new books will occupy any of us for long. "What to do .. what to do ... I may even have to go read fanfic... or join a SHIP", Doreen said, sinkingly. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Phantom Tollbooth Doreen, there's one section at the very end, where Milo, Tock, and the bug are fleeing with the Princesses, and there's a horde of monsters chasing them. I think the one I'm thinking of is only mentioned in this last bit. It's not one they meet, it's just that it was a terribly evocative name and I loved it. --Amanda Doreen wrote: so I was trying to find the name of a monster in it. It might be the Everpresent Wordsnatcher, but that still doesn't feel right. Sorry, I can't recall the name of the author. --Amanda Norton Juster, illustrated by Jules Feiffer, The Phantom Tollbooth "Finally, the intrepid three make their way to the Mountains of Ignorance, where they must avoid such demons as the Gross Exaggeration, the Overbearing Know-it-all and the Threadbare Excuse. They complete their quest, and Milo returns home much more interested in life and learning." How about one of these, Amanda? I am running out of search results. :) Doreen To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 03:41:13 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:41:13 -0000 Subject: What is Red Nose Day.... Message-ID: <98k4sp+89mf@eGroups.com> Now that it is Tuesday in the UK I am asking a rather old question but I'm still asking...What is Red Nose Day anyway? I understood that it was sort of like a tv-telephon where you call in and make donations. I also remember something about "red nose" coming from people wearing red clown noses but I can't remember whether it's correct. Scott From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 13 03:41:24 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:41:24 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <3AAD8774.FEE36AD2@texas.net> Message-ID: <98k4t4+gkju@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > tanwo at h... wrote: > > > > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good > > night," > > > don't it? > > > > > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" > > > > Shakespeare???? > > No. Now this is going to drive me crazy. Not Edna St. Vincent- Millay, I > don't think. It's the poem that ends "Rage, rage, against the fading of > the light!" Not Browning. RRRRRRR. Who's the lady poet who wrote "Since > I could not stop for Death, he kindly stopped for me"? I think it's her. > And absolutely no brain cells interested in helping me out and giving me > a hint of her name. I mean, I had to write a term paper about her. > AAAAGH. > > parenthood...*gasp* must have adult conversation....ability to converse > intelligently fading....*wheeze*...literary memories slipping > away...(sinks into Disney-induced stupor) > > --Amanda Amanda-- It's the title and first line of Dylan Thomas' 'Do Not Go Gently Into That Goodnight' The first two lines are: 'Do not go gently into that goodnight/Rage, rage, against the dying of the light.' It's one of my favourite poems. I read it to the woods in a private memorial service I had for my dad when he passed away. Peace & Plenty, Parker From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 13 03:43:44 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:43:44 -0000 Subject: Candles and Renewal In-Reply-To: <98jn5d+450o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98k51g+7t3t@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > In honor of the release of the Comic Relief HP textbooks today, I > wanted to post a poem and a story that always get me all weepy. Both > are by Sharon Draper, 1997 U.S. Department of Education Teacher of > the Year. Ms. Draper is also an award-winning YA novelist. (Yes, > she's my role model.) > > Every person who works with children and teens should purchase Ms. > Draper's book "Teaching From The Heart". It's awesome--just the sort > of thing you want to read for a little pick-me-up on those Jonah days. > > The poem, "Candles", always reminds me of all children everywhere. > > Candles > --by Sharon Draper > > This candle is Donna who is hurting and thin. > This candle is Tina who tries > but can never figure out the factor of ten. > This candle is Lisa who lies. > > This candle is Robert who lives on a farm > and Leon who lives all alone. > It's Mona and Alex and Buddy and Kim > whose gang friends have turned them to stone. > > This candle is Aswad and Chengli and Raul > And Kelly and Kathy and Jean > who share the same classroom and same childhood fears > of monsters or hunger or dreams. > > This candle is teachers, who stay late at night > grading papers or coaching a game, > who never get glory or thank-yous or chalk > but always live up to their name. > > If the glow from one candle can brighten a room > the glow from three million can blind! > And when one student smiles and says, "Hey, now I get it!" > That candle makes all of us shine! > > === > Ms. Draper always tells stories when she speaks, and this next one is > my favorite. It reminds me of the poem, "The House By the Side of > the Road"... can't remember the poet right now. In "Renewal", Misty > is the archetypal child. > > Renewal > --by Sharon Draper > > On the outskirts of the town in which a tiny girl named Misty lived, > an old man, the oldest in town, labored alone near a large chasm. > His back was bent with age, and his movements were slow and sometimes > painful. But every day he could be seen, cane in one hand, hammer or > saw in the other, trudging slowly to the spot near the wide valley. > > He cleared bushes, chopped trees, and sawed them into planks. Every > day he worked silently in the hot sun or the cold rain, oblivious of > travelers or distracters. Gradually it became clear what he was > doing. He was building a bridge across the chasm. > > Little Misty rode her bicycle to that place one day. She watched the > old man work, then asked him, "What are you doing, sir?" > > The old man stopped his hammering and smiled. "You are the first one > to ask me what I'm doing," he declared. > > "So tell me," Misty repeated. "What are you building?" > > "I'm building a bridge," the old man said proudly. > > "Why?" Misty asked bluntly. > > "To build a path to the other side," the old man replied with just as > much bluntness. > > "But you're *old*," Misty continued with the honesty of a > child. "You won't have much chance to go on to the forest on the > other side of the chasm." > > "You're right," the old man agreed. He was smiling. "I'll have very > little need and very little reason to ever go across this bridge." > > "So why are you building it?" Misty asked. "Isn't that just a waste > of time?" > > "No, my child," the old man replied, ever so gently. "I'm building > this bridge for you." > ------------- > > Thanks to Joanne Rowling, who is a world-famous author with a > teacher's heart inside. It thrilled me to no end to read in the chat > transcript that if she wasn't famous, she'd be teaching French in > Edinburgh. :-) > > And continued grace and peace to all those the world over who have a > heart for children. > > --Ebony AKA AngieJ > > "Dear Lord, be good to me... > The sea is so wide and my boat is so small." > --Motto, Children's Defense Fund, Washington, D.C. Oh, gosh, Eb, you did it to me *again*. This is just beautiful. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. Peace & Plenty, Parker From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 05:11:15 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:11:15 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Candles and Renewal References: <98jn5d+450o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: I've translated them both for my sister who's a special-education teacher. Thank you! yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s_ings at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 08:22:30 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:22:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Candles and Renewal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010313082230.19799.qmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> --- yael-pou wrote: > I've translated them both for my sister who's a > special-education teacher. > > Thank you! > yael > And I am giving the title and author name to my daughter (who wants to be a special education teacher) and sending her to the library tomorrow. Thank for your recent posts, which not only have enriched and enlightened us, but have shown us the beauty of your way with words. Sheryll P.S. I mentioned the manuscript you spoke of in an earlier post to my daughter (age 17). She's dying for it to be published so she can read it. ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 13 09:37:51 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:37:51 -0000 Subject: red nose day In-Reply-To: <984454892.3139.30602.l6@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Scott: "Now that it is Tuesday in the UK I am asking a rather old question but I'm still asking...What is Red Nose Day anyway? I understood that it was sort of like a tv-telephon where you call in and make donations. I also remember something about "red nose" coming from people wearing red clown noses but I can't remember whether it's correct." Its proper name is Comic Relief day, but one of the ways that they raise money is by selling plastic red noses for you to wear. Hence it is know known more commonly as Red Nose Day. The actual red nose day s on Friday and the main event will be a television programme, of many hours length, in which many will find fun and amusing ways to raise money. Events to raise money have been going on for a while and will still be going for a bit longer. Also released are a single (Uptown Girl by Westlife (an absolute slaughtering of a good song)) and several other books. There is a chocolate cooks book, which has some great recipes in it, by Delia Smith, and she has done cookbooks for them before. Comic Relief was launched from a refugee camp in Sudan in 1985 on Noel Edmunds' Late, Late Breakfast Show on BBC ONE, on Christmas Day, in response to the famine in Ethiopia Rather than me try to explain the best I can do is send you to their web site instead. The site is: http://www.comicrelief.com/entry.shtml and includes an FAQ and information on all of the red nose days. Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 09:56:20 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:56:20 -0000 Subject: help on Brit speak In-Reply-To: <98k01u+ihjp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98kqs4+t653@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., lrcjestes at e... wrote: > Hi guys...this is to all you Brits: > > Is the expression: "I'm just the hired hand" something you guys > would say? The context is a person commenting that they are just an > employee and don't know the reasons behind certain work place > decisions. If there is a better, more British way of saying this I'd > appreciate the suggestion. > > thanks > carole We wouldn't say that. Most likely would be "don't ask me, I just work here" or "what would I know, I only work here." Wotan From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 13 11:41:55 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:41:55 -0000 Subject: help on Brit speak In-Reply-To: <98kqs4+t653@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98l123+5d1d@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., lrcjestes at e... wrote: > > Hi guys...this is to all you Brits: > > > > Is the expression: "I'm just the hired hand" something you guys > > would say? The context is a person commenting that they are just > an > > employee and don't know the reasons behind certain work place > > decisions. If there is a better, more British way of saying this > I'd > > appreciate the suggestion. > > > > thanks > > carole > > We wouldn't say that. Most likely would be "don't ask me, I just work > here" or "what would I know, I only work here." > Would possibly say "I'm just the hired help", Depends on the age of the character, as is probably considered archaic. - Ben, who has never heard of maggots being called gentles. From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 11:59:50 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:59:50 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] is Jeralyn really *me*? References: <20010312232256.18834.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: Jeralyn wrote: "I have a photo of myself on my yahoo profile page if you want to check it out." *Eek* I can't believe I actually went through all the links just to see a picture of an orange cat. I did see your photo with Penny, though, and i'm afraid i bear more resemblance to the cat... *snerk* Well, I guess the likeness has to stop somewhere. :) I've uploaded pictures of my daughters in (bath) robes. The big one looks a lot like me, so just imagine a slightly larger version of her. We're both very Hermione-looking. I DO NOT want to hear who the little one reminds you of! Those are DARK grey eyes and DARK blond hair, and there is absolutely NO HP character who has those. the link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Group%20Members/girls2.jpg thanks, yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 13 12:16:14 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:16:14 -0000 Subject: is Jeralyn really *me*? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98l32e+sl31@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "yael oren" wrote: > > > I've uploaded pictures of my daughters in (bath) robes. The big one looks a lot like me, so just imagine a slightly larger version of her. We're both very Hermione-looking. I DO NOT want to hear who the little one reminds you of! Those are DARK grey eyes and DARK blond hair, and there is absolutely NO HP character who has those. > > the link: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Group% 20Members/girls2.jpg > > thanks, yael Yael-- They are *adorable*!! (I wanted girls--I got boys when I married Doug) Everyone else-- Run over to the files section & take a peek! Peace & Plenty, Parker From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 13 12:22:50 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:22:50 -0000 Subject: red nose day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98l3eq+bthp@eGroups.com> >>Simon: Also released are a single (Uptown Girl by Westlife (an absolute slaughtering of a good song)) << Poor excuse for a post - did anyone see Wayne Sleep dancing to Uptown Girl (in memory of Diana, Princess of Wales) a few years ago. Okay, so I just wanted to put this terrible Swiftie, I found myself writing in a letter last night "I heard about the new cooker, I understand it's backless" said Ben, saucily. What have you lot done to me??? - Ben. Now a published author, WayHey! From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 13 12:50:56 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:50:56 -0000 Subject: yael's pic In-Reply-To: <98l32e+sl31@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98l53g+grbg@eGroups.com> This has been moved over from HP Fanfiction as it is probably very OT for there.I am talking about the picture that was posted earlier. Simon: "There is no need to be in denial. It is nothing to be ashamed of having a kid who is a dead ringer for Draco. ;)" yael: "making sure i choke on my coffee twice, are ye? Not to worry, i haven't written your part in the next KDIL chapters yet. *winks back* yael *walking away with an evil laugh*" I suppose I should have put a warning on that messages. C&C is the right option I think. C&C = Coffee and Cats - meaning put your coffee down and push the cat off your lap so that when you start laughing you do not end up spraying the cat over ther keyboard or dropping the coffee on the floor. Does this mean I am in for a painful death? And on second looking maybe Draco was the wrong character to pick. I think I meant Hagrid. ;)'s at yeal yet again. Simon From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 13:29:33 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:29:33 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: red nose day Tom Swiftie References: <98l3eq+bthp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <003101c0abc1$a4df2860$5114a3d1@doreen> Okay, so I just wanted to put this terrible Swiftie, I found myself writing in a letter last night "I heard about the new cooker, I understand it's backless" said Ben, saucily. What have you lot done to me??? - Ben. Now a published author, WayHey! Uh-oh, now you have done your first TS ... you will find yourself doing more. They are addictive! If you scan thru the dialogues in the books, they just seem to jump out at you. hee hee You have fallen under the Tomerus Swiftiarmus Charm. Doreen, who almost missed this TS because the post was not labeled. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 13:41:26 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:41:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Tom Swifties ... Gentles???? References: <98j6ak+d2vr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <005d01c0abc3$4e2390e0$5114a3d1@doreen> > Wotan wrote: > > "Don't be scared Gin, it's just a maggot," Harry said gently. > > Please explain that to the stupid Kitten. > Catlady > > Don't feel lonely, Catlady, I didn't get it either, but by the time > I read it, was too tired to ask. I am surprised that the Ministry of > Magical Humour didn't catch that one. > Doreen May be the "two nations divided by a common language" problem! In the UK a 'gentle' is another name for a maggot. Not in the States I guess! Wotan Maggots called gentles? No, not here. They are called nastly, slimey, disgusting, filthy, and on and on ... but never gentle. It sounds like Hagrid coined that description for them. Why on earth would you call them, gentles? Doreen From voicelady at mymailstation.com Tue Mar 13 13:43:01 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 13 Mar 2001 05:43:01 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] is Jeralyn really *me*? Message-ID: <20010313134301.27630.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:32:37 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:32:37 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98lb25+mg8l@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good > night," > > don't it? > > > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" > > Shakespeare???? In which case I offer you - > > "You were conducted to a gentle bath" (Coriolanus) > > Double-eeuuuww! > > Wotan :)) "Do not go gentle" is by Dylan Thomas (Welsh). So both of these writers are familiar with the double meaning, unless it's very new slang. Sounds like the basis of a PhD dissertation to me. Imagery of maggots in British poetry. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:36:55 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:36:55 -0000 Subject: Phantom Tollbooth In-Reply-To: <98junq+ui5p@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98lba7+dfon@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pengolodh_sc at y... wrote: > What in the name of are you talking > about? > > Best regards > Christian Stub? A wonderful children's book called "The Phantom Tollbooth," by Norton Juster. It is chock-full of clever puns, wordplay, and gentle moralizing about the joys of learning. It would be a bear to translate. Amy Z From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 13 14:43:03 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:43:03 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <98lb25+mg8l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98lbln+k9ec@eGroups.com> Amanda: <<>> Wotan: <<>> Amy: <<<"Do not go gentle" is by Dylan Thomas (Welsh). So both of these writers are familiar with the double meaning, unless it's very new slang. Sounds like the basis of a PhD dissertation to me. Imagery of maggots in British poetry.>>> >From the OED Defn: A maggot, the larva of the flesh-fly or bluebottle, employed as bait by anglers. (Cf. A. 5.) Quotes: 1578 LYTE Dodoens VI. lxviii. 746 A white worme lyke a gentill. 1594 PLAT Jewell-ho. III. 12 White and glib worms, which the anglers call Gentils. 1688 R. HOLME Armoury II. 193/1 The Cloudy, or Blackish Fly..proceed from Maggots, or Gentills, that breed of Putrified Flesh. 1741 Compl. Fam.-Piece II. ii. 336 Gentles are a very good Bait. 1851 D. JERROLD St. Giles xxiv. 251 As alive and wriggling as an angler's box of gentles. 1894 Blackw. Mag. Sept. 426/2 A gentle is placed on the hook. A.5. (also from defn of gentle): Not harsh or irritating to the touch; soft, tender; yielding to pressure, pliant, supple. Obs. Simon From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:44:29 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:44:29 +0200 Subject: Simon's Cameo; brit measurments question (was:Re: yael's pic) References: <98l53g+grbg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Simon: "C&C = Coffee and Cats - meaning put your coffee down and push the cat off your lap so that when you start laughing you do not end up spraying the cat over ther keyboard or dropping the coffee on the floor." Lol! Simon: "Does this mean I am in for a painful death?" Er... I was thinking more in the line of making you do horribly silly things. Worse than death, as i see it. Unfortunately, as a responsible writer, i let my cameos approve their part before uploading them, so i can't write anything that will make you put a veto on it. Just remember that i made you grovel to Voldemort when i wasn't vexed. :) Simon: "And on second looking maybe Draco was the wrong character to pick. I think I meant Hagrid. ;)'s at yeal yet again." Ah! Didn't make me spit cats out of my nose this time. Being extremely short, even with my 6 foot (180 cm) husband, there is no chance any of my kids will be Hagrid-like. :) Good thing they're girls. I was waiting for an opportunity like this - can any of you Brits tell me what measurements are used in the UK? For height, distance, weight (people and products), temperature (climate and body)? I know this requires some work. I looked in 'the best of British' posted here a while back, and couldn't find this. I'm sorry. thanks, yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:48:59 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:48:59 -0000 Subject: Yael's kids In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98lc0r+juri@eGroups.com> > I DO NOT want to hear who the little >one reminds you of! Those are DARK grey eyes and DARK blond hair, and >there is absolutely NO HP character who has those. You shouldn't have mentioned it, Yael. Now everyone is clicking on that link to see Yael's Daughter Draco. Never mind us--we're all just jealous because it's clear that a few years back, you had a torrid affair with The Hottest Thing in Leather, or someone who looks just like him. Seriously, your children are both absolutely adorable. Amy Z From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 13 14:57:17 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:57:17 -0000 Subject: Simon's Cameo; brit measurments question (was:Re: yael's pic) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98lcgd+grib@eGroups.com> Simon: "Does this mean I am in for a painful death?" yael: "Er... I was thinking more in the line of making you do horribly silly things. Worse than death, as i see it. Unfortunately, as a responsible writer, i let my cameos approve their part before uploading them, so i can't write anything that will make you put a veto on it. Just remember that i made you grovel to Voldemort when i wasn't vexed. :)" I think I will have to start grovelling, and at the author rather than the evil lord. Simon: "And on second looking maybe Draco was the wrong character to pick. I think I meant Hagrid. ;)'s at yeal yet again." yael: "Ah! Didn't make me spit cats out of my nose this time. Being extremely short, even with my 6 foot (180 cm) husband, there is no chance any of my kids will be Hagrid-like. :) Good thing they're girls." Oh dear I seem to have mistyped earlier. I of course meant to type Petunia. ;)'s at yael (rather than yeal as I did last time). yael: "I was waiting for an opportunity like this - can any of you Brits tell me what measurements are used in the UK? For height, distance, weight (people and products), temperature (climate and body)? I know this requires some work. I looked in 'the best of British' posted here a while back, and couldn't find this. I'm sorry." Height is in feet and inches, but this is gradually being replaced by metres (I could tell you my height in the first but not the second). Weight for people is in stones and pounds. Some may say kilograms (I know my weight in either). Weight for products is now meant to be measured in kilograms, for legal reasons. I still work in pounds and ounces as these mean a lot more to me. Temperature is now usually in Celcius, but some of the older folks of this country still use that Farenheit. I cannot convert mentally from one ot the other. Road distances are in miles. All the people I know who run will say how far they run in miles and not kilometres. Any others? Simon PS: Congrats on your modship over on HPfanfiction - a well deserved appointment From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 13 15:17:45 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:17:45 -0000 Subject: brit measurments question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98ldmp+kdlc@eGroups.com> >>> I was waiting for an opportunity like this - can any of you Brits tell me what measurements are used in the UK? For height, distance, weight (people and products), temperature (climate and body)? I know this requires some work. I looked in 'the best of British' posted here a while back, and couldn't find this. I'm sorry.<<< Generally if you put everything in Imperial it won't be out of place, though it depends on the age of the person I think. Definitely height and weight of people, distances along roads etc are Imperial (ie. in feet, stones, miles) Weight of products is probably still in pounds and ounces, though occassionally in grams - most things are still in imperial-size packages, but labelled in SI/EU units. (e.g. you can buy 568ml of milk (1 pt.) and 227g butter (1/2 lb)) Things like Coke, water, flour though are all in litres and Kilos. Measuring small distances other than people is probably in centimetres and metres. Temperature is difficult, I think most people under, say, about thirty think in degrees centigrade (Celsius) and cannot work in Farenheit (and vice versa for older people) perhaps the fact that the two scales are not proportional (the zero is in a different place) means that conversion is more difficult conceptually. Paper burns at 451F though :) Incidentally, the EU insists on things being sold in grams/litres etc, but pints of Guinness (and bitter and lager etc) are exempt. A single measure of spirits isn't, however, and is 25ml in Britain (but 35ml in Ireland... :) Finally, some road signs (and I think only in Ireland, now) are starting to appear in km rather than miles. This is pointless and just leads to confusion, especially when drivers from the airport insist on doing under 30 kmph... There you go, a long and boring bit of work avoidance -Ben. By the way, on a terminology point, 'Britain' does not include any of the island of Ireland, whereas 'UK' includes (the province of) Northern Ireland. 'Ireland' may also include Northern Ireland, depending on who you talk to, and what they are talking about. Off to teach my grandmother to suck eggs. From john at walton.to Tue Mar 13 15:20:18 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:20:18 +0000 Subject: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks In-Reply-To: <98lcgd+grib@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Question -- in SS/PS, do we find out how much *in wizarding currency* the books that Harry buys from Flourish and Blotts cost? I'd check myself but my books are on loan. --John ____________________________________________ "The Universe is not only Queerer than we suppose, it is Queerer than we can suppose. - JBS Haldane, "Possible Worlds" John Walton -- john at walton.to ____________________________________________ From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 13 15:45:36 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:45:36 -0000 Subject: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98lfb0+grjj@eGroups.com> John: "Question -- in SS/PS, do we find out how much *in wizarding currency* the books that Harry buys from Flourish and Blotts cost? I'd check myself but my books are on loan." I am fairly sure the answer to this is a no, but my copy of PS is also out on loan. If so I would have been trying to do conversion stuff based on teh cost of school textbooks before now. So far all conversion rates have been based on sweet prices. Simon From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:08:30 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:08:30 -0000 Subject: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98lglu+f8v4@eGroups.com> John wrote: > Question -- in SS/PS, do we find out how much *in wizarding currency* the > books that Harry buys from Flourish and Blotts cost? I checked--no. The price of his wand is 7 Galleons, and the prices of unicorn horns and beetle eyes are given, though Harry doesn't buy them (21 G per for the horns, 5 K/scoop for the eyes). We don't have any idea how much he takes out of his vault, either. Amy Z ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "What is this thing?" said Moody, drawing the Marauder's Map out of his pocket and unfolding it. "Map of Hogwarts," said Harry. . . . "Merlin's beard," Moody whispered, staring at the map, his magical eye going haywire. "This . . . this is some map, Potter!" "Yeah, it's . . . quite useful," Harry said. -HP and the Goblet of Fire ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From joannec at lisp.com.au Tue Mar 13 09:30:34 2001 From: joannec at lisp.com.au (Joanne Collins) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:30:34 +1100 Subject: Magic, Kids, and Detroit--long anecdote Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010313203034.007e7d60@mail.lisp.com.au> Ebony, thank you. Thank you for sharing this with us. I recognised so much of some of the people I have known all my life in this post, and it saddens me so much that there are things that sadly are not only present in big cities, but in small towns that are sad and negative. I live in a small town, but the usual fate of young people here is so similar to the ones you speak of. I know too many girls who had babies when they were girls. I've attended three eighteenth birthday parties for the children of my friends in the last six months. I'm thirty-one. I thank the teacher who gave me the gift of reading. It let me see there were other choices, other ways of life. Otherwise I might be the one planning the eighteenth birthday party of the child I had when I was twelve or thirteen. Joanne, who cried over the post too. From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:25:06 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:25:06 +0200 Subject: Amy Z: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Yael's kids References: <98lc0r+juri@eGroups.com> Message-ID: I swear this is the last post on the subject. > "Never mind us--we're all just jealous because it's clear that a few years back, you had a torrid affair with The Hottest Thing in Leather, or someone who looks just like him." No, actually i'm married to The Hottest Thing in Leather. And he's a really nice guy, too. Now, you're allowed to be jealous. :) :) yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 16:27:21 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:27:21 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH References: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> <3AAD8774.FEE36AD2@texas.net> <00cf01c0ab6c$6f3f2200$3014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3AAE4A69.161DC4A0@texas.net> Whatever. If I couldn't even remember her name, what are the odds I'd get the quote spot-on? But thanks for supplying the poet, it was driving me nuts. I'm pretty sure she was the "Do not go gently" poet, too. --Amanda, watching more literary brain cells die by the day Doreen wrote: > Sometimes, however, because is perfectly appropriate as the opening > word of a sentence, as in the beginning of one of Emily Dickinson's > best-known poems: Because I could not stop for Death/He kindly > stopped for me. > > > > Doreen > > > > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that > > good night," > > > don't it? > > > > > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" > > > > Shakespeare???? > > No. Now this is going to drive me crazy. Not Edna St. > Vincent-Millay, I don't think. It's the poem that ends > "Rage, rage, against the fading of the light!" Not Browning. > RRRRRRR. Who's the lady poet who wrote "Since I could not > stop for Death, he kindly stopped for me"? I think it's her. > And absolutely no brain cells interested in helping me out > and giving me a hint of her name. I mean, I had to write a > term paper about her. AAAAGH. > > parenthood...*gasp* must have adult conversation....ability > to converse intelligently fading....*wheeze*...literary > memories slipping away...(sinks into Disney-induced stupor) > > --Amanda > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Classmates.com] Click here for Classmates.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailVU.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailJ3.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 16:30:27 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:30:27 -0600 Subject: We have the poet! was (And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because...) References: <98k4t4+gkju@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAE4B22.3747322D@texas.net> pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > It's the title and first line of Dylan Thomas' 'Do Not Go Gently Into > That Goodnight' > > The first two lines are: 'Do not go gently into that goodnight/Rage, > rage, against the dying of the light.' Thank you! Thank you! Dickinson just didn't sound right. > It's one of my favourite poems. I read it to the woods in a private > memorial service I had for my dad when he passed away. Sympathies. I really, really wish I didn't have so much experience in this area, but it does help when others lose loved ones. And good choice, by the way. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 16:53:57 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:53:57 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And they call it "Tom Swifties because poets & gentles References: <98jqtl+96u5@eGroups.com> <3AAD8774.FEE36AD2@texas.net> <00cf01c0ab6c$6f3f2200$3014a3d1@doreen> <3AAE4A69.161DC4A0@texas.net> Message-ID: <01bc01c0abde$328c0360$5114a3d1@doreen> Whatever. If I couldn't even remember her name, what are the odds I'd get the quote spot-on? But thanks for supplying the poet, it was driving me nuts. I'm pretty sure she was the "Do not go gently" poet, too. --Amanda, watching more literary brain cells die by the day Amanda, I was not making any attempts at correcting your quote ... far be it from me to correct anyone else's quotes, spelling, grammar, typos, or anything else. I just cut and pasted that because it had both the quote and the author... I thought it might be of some help Doreen, aka the Typo Queen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 13 18:27:39 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:27:39 -0600 Subject: Unofficial Report on Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans Message-ID: <020801c0abeb$4addfba0$5114a3d1@doreen> I was shopping in my favorite mall and found a store that sold BBEFB for $1. Unfortunately, I only bought four bags of them. When I go back, I will definitely see if they have more for the same price. When I checked the price on the internet, I was quite shocked that they sell for $9.95! When I brought them home, my fifteen year old son and I sat down and had a BBEFB taste off contest. Dividing the beans into two piles, we would each taste the same colored bean, and both of us would try to guess which flavor it was. The fact that we both knew there were some nasty flavors only added to the fun. As with most Jelly Belly flavors, most of them were right on the mark and yummy tasting. Our very favorites were buttered toast, coconut, bubblegum, chocolate pudding, banana, and cotton candy. Of the nasty variety, the black pepper tasted hot & peppery; the horseradish also hot & no doubt that it was horseradish; the booger bean tasted like mold smells... ewwww; but by far the nastiest bean in the bunch was the sardine flavored one! I had to spit mine out! My stomach did a flip! Vile, disgusting! A word of warning: although the beans are color coded, the coconut, horseradish, and sardine are close enough in color so as to make a mistake in choosing the correct one. ha ha The packaging is great .. a cloth bag that says Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans net wt. 3.5 oz with the HP lightning bolt logo running thru the names. There is an informational tag outside and the flavor guide inside. The candy itself is wrapped in celephane inside the cloth bag. These would make fun Easter basket items or stocking stuffers or a fun birthday party game for HPers. Doreen, still remembering the sardine bean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saitaina at wizzards.net Tue Mar 13 18:33:12 2001 From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:33:12 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Unofficial Report on Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans References: <020801c0abeb$4addfba0$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <01b401c0abec$107f8cc0$ba4e28d1@oemcomputer> Just a small note...there IS a colour difference between the Sardine, coconut and Horseradish beans. Coconut is pure white, Horseradish yellow-white and Sardine Grey-white. I know this because each of those make me sick and I have to separate them from the other whitish coloured beans. Just a helpful note for those setting out to avoid a certain flavor...also, some recently released bags had dirt slipped in on accident...the dirt flavored bean is a mustartish yellow colour and should be avoided unless you rather enjoy a mouthful of gritty dirt. 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Is there going to be just a fourth new flavor or are they not going to tell us what it is and let us guess? Who does the taste tests and development of these nasty flavors anyway? Some masochistic flavor freak? Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: Saitaina To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Unofficial Report on Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans Just a small note...there IS a colour difference between the Sardine, coconut and Horseradish beans. Coconut is pure white, Horseradish yellow-white and Sardine Grey-white. I know this because each of those make me sick and I have to separate them from the other whitish coloured beans. Just a helpful note for those setting out to avoid a certain flavor...also, some recently released bags had dirt slipped in on accident...the dirt flavored bean is a mustartish yellow colour and should be avoided unless you rather enjoy a mouthful of gritty dirt. Saitaina http://www.angelfire.com/al/Diarys/index.html The New and Improved Watcher's Diarys-Come, Enjoy the Musty Smell! Home of BTVS, Angel, Anita Blake and Harry Potter Fanfiction Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saitaina at wizzards.net Tue Mar 13 18:47:19 2001 From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:47:19 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Unofficial Report on Bertie Botts Every Flavor Beans References: <020801c0abeb$4addfba0$5114a3d1@doreen> <01b401c0abec$107f8cc0$ba4e28d1@oemcomputer> <022301c0abed$b940bb80$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <01d701c0abee$0aa00800$ba4e28d1@oemcomputer> I have no clue who develops them but the Jelly Belly company (the ones putting out the beans) has a group of members (fans that pay to taste the beans) that taste tests every new bean before it goes to market. I myself am considering joining the panel but not until they stop developing new Every Flavor Beans. The ??? is either earwax (highly unlikely) or a mystery bean they have not yet decided on. I myself shall stick with the regular Jelly Belly flavors and allow other fans to taste test the Every Flavor Beans...I believe the dirt (and price) have turned me off of them for now. Saitaina http://www.angelfire.com/al/Diarys/index.html The New and Improved Watcher's Diarys-Come, Enjoy the Musty Smell! Home of BTVS, Angel, Anita Blake and Harry Potter Fanfiction -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 19:17:33 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:17:33 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks References: <98lglu+f8v4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAE724C.29D351CF@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > > Question -- in SS/PS, do we find out how much *in wizarding > currency* the > > books that Harry buys from Flourish and Blotts cost? > > I checked--no. The price of his wand is 7 Galleons, and the prices > of unicorn horns and beetle eyes are given, though Harry doesn't buy > them (21 G per for the horns, 5 K/scoop for the eyes). We don't have > any idea how much he takes out of his vault, either. Good heavens! Seven galleons for a wand, and *ten* for those binocular-things at the World Cup? I'd gotten the general impression over the course of the four books that the value of the currency had slipped a bit--this seems to reinforce that. Thoughts? --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanwo at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:26:26 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:26:26 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <98lbln+k9ec@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ls92+9c3s@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > From the OED > > Defn: A maggot, the larva of the flesh-fly or bluebottle, employed as > bait by anglers. (Cf. A. 5.) > > Quotes: > 1578 LYTE Dodoens VI. lxviii. 746 A white worme lyke a gentill. > 1594 PLAT Jewell-ho. III. 12 White and glib worms, which the anglers > call Gentils. > 1688 R. HOLME Armoury II. 193/1 The Cloudy, or Blackish Fly..proceed > from Maggots, or Gentills, that breed of Putrified Flesh. > 1741 Compl. Fam.-Piece II. ii. 336 Gentles are a very good Bait. > 1851 D. JERROLD St. Giles xxiv. 251 As alive and wriggling as an > angler's box of gentles. > 1894 Blackw. Mag. Sept. 426/2 A gentle is placed on the hook. > > A.5. (also from defn of gentle): Not harsh or irritating to the > touch; soft, tender; yielding to pressure, pliant, supple. Obs. > Just what I was about say ;) Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:38:51 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:38:51 -0000 Subject: Simon's Cameo; brit measurments question (was:Re: yael's pic) In-Reply-To: <98lcgd+grib@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98lt0b+qr6d@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > Height is in feet and inches, but this is gradually being replaced by > metres (I could tell you my height in the first but not the second). > > Weight for people is in stones and pounds. Some may say kilograms (I > know my weight in either). > > Weight for products is now meant to be measured in kilograms, for > legal reasons. I still work in pounds and ounces as these mean a lot > more to me. > > Temperature is now usually in Celcius, but some of the older folks of > this country still use that Farenheit. I cannot convert mentally from > one ot the other. > > Road distances are in miles. All the people I know who run will say > how far they run in miles and not kilometres. > > Any others? > > Simon > Just to confuse you ... the racing fraternity still work in furlongs. And I know a couple of old coppicers, who still use chords! Water depth is measured in fathoms - or used to be? Speed at sea is still in knots I think. Horses are measured in hands :)) Anybody over the age of about 35/40 still thinks in Imperial measurements (feet and inches, pounds and ounces, etc), though some are 'bilingual' (not me!) If you really want to be confused, ask about pre-decimalisation currency! Some terms of which I still use ... e.g. ten-bob for a fifty pence piece. Wotan (wishing 'they' would just bloody well leave things alone). From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 13 19:44:15 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:44:15 -0600 Subject: Amy Z: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Yael's kids References: <98lc0r+juri@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AAE788F.43A1ABF5@texas.net> yael oren wrote: > No, actually i'm married to The Hottest Thing in Leather. And he's a > really nice guy, too. Now, you're allowed to be jealous. :) > > Well, Yael, you inspired me to attempt uploading a picture. I put an > old pic of me and my own Hot Thing on the members' list on the main > group. Sigh....I remember I used to think I was sooo fat then.....the > foolishness of youth. > > By the way, if you bother to toodle over there and leer at us, Jan is > wearing the lion ring on his index finger (although it's far too tiny > to see well). > > --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 13 20:10:16 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:10:16 -0000 Subject: Simon's Cameo; brit measurments question (was:Re: yael's pic) In-Reply-To: <98lt0b+qr6d@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98lur8+5ogm@eGroups.com> > If you really want to be confused, ask about pre-decimalisation > currency! Some terms of which I still use ... e.g. ten-bob for a > fifty pence piece. twelve pence in a shilling, twenty shillings to a pound. Obvious really :) -Ben, who liked florins the best. From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 13 20:24:45 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:24:45 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks In-Reply-To: <3AAE724C.29D351CF@texas.net> Message-ID: The cost of Omnioculars -- don't forget they were being sold at a sporting event. That's a license to charge double or triple for everyday goods. It's just like a vending machine charging 70 or 80 cents for a can of pop that costs 20 cents a piece in a six-pack. SML ====================================================== Evil Empress Notes on Fortress Construction: #2. My Command Center will have a heavily guarded room at the bottom of a 100 story subterranean shaft that will contain a sophisticated bus-sized computer with a fake encoded plan, no external link, and no real function whatsoever. The real command center will be a satellite-linked laptop on a card-table with a folding chair at the top of the elevator shaft, behind a door marked 'standpipe valves' accessible through the unlocked janitor's closet. ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Amanda Lewanski [mailto:editor at texas.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:18 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cost of Harry's Schoolbooks Amy Z wrote: > Question -- in SS/PS, do we find out how much *in wizarding currency* the > books that Harry buys from Flourish and Blotts cost? I checked--no. The price of his wand is 7 Galleons, and the prices of unicorn horns and beetle eyes are given, though Harry doesn't buy them (21 G per for the horns, 5 K/scoop for the eyes). We don't have any idea how much he takes out of his vault, either. Good heavens! Seven galleons for a wand, and *ten* for those binocular-things at the World Cup? I'd gotten the general impression over the course of the four books that the value of the currency had slipped a bit--this seems to reinforce that. Thoughts? --Amanda Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Click here for Classmates.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Mar 14 00:05:00 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:05:00 -0000 Subject: *Yawn* More Swifties Message-ID: <98mcjc+7ua8@eGroups.com> "Come here, Mikey. There's a good little goat, come to daddy," Aberforth said, capriciously. "In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous," said Professor Vector, operettically. (apologies to G&S) "...you are going into a deep,deep sleep..." intoned Professor Trelawney, ethereally. "Father tells me that the new DADA teacher is a woman...and she's Greek!" Malfoy sneered, Xenaphobically. "...flesh of the servant, freely given..." said Pettigrew, offhandedly. "All the Malfoys have been left-handed," said Draco, Sinisterly. "What does 'Vol-de-mort' mean in French?" Ron asked Hermione, flightily. "*I* already have a date for the Ball," Hermione informed Ron, Victoriously. "My, Dudley, how you've grown!" exclaimed Aunt Marge, fatuously. "'I am Lord Voldemort,'" is that supposed to be some kind of Riddle, Tom?" Harry asked, backwardly. "There's two of us, that makes us a 'semifour,'" said Fred and George, signally. "I understand that it is getting overpopulated at the bottom of the lake," Hermione, said, mercifully. "O? est Madame Maxime?" Fleur inquired, Frankly. "I'm sorry, Ron, we couldn't get the store to extend our tab, so we had to buy you second-hand dress robes," said Mrs Weasley, incredulously. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Mar 14 00:37:29 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 00:37:29 -0000 Subject: And they call it "Tom Swiftie" because... one for the MOMH In-Reply-To: <98lb25+mg8l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98meg9+hnug@eGroups.com> This is possibly the most OT of OT Chatter. Dylan Thomas said, metamorphically: Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > > > > Gives a whole new meaning to "Do not go gently into that good > > night," > > > don't it? > > > > > > --Amanda, going "eeuuuwww" > > > > Shakespeare???? In which case I offer you - > > > > "You were conducted to a gentle bath" (Coriolanus) > > > > Double-eeuuuww! > > > > Wotan :)) > > "Do not go gentle" is by Dylan Thomas (Welsh). So both of these > writers are familiar with the double meaning, unless it's very new > slang. Sounds like the basis of a PhD dissertation to me. Imagery of > maggots in British poetry. > > Amy Z From klaatu at primenet.com Wed Mar 14 01:15:42 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:15:42 -0700 Subject: Amanda's photo Message-ID: Amanda, I just wanted to say how much I loved that photo of you and your husband in costume -- absolutely wonderful!! SML ====================================================== Evil Henchman Guidelines: #6. As soon as the evil lord has the Hero in his power, seek the nearest available escape route. The fewmets are about to hit the windmill. ====================================================== From pbnesbit at msn.com Wed Mar 14 02:23:45 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:23:45 -0000 Subject: Amanda's photo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98mknh+s78l@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Amanda, I just wanted to say how much I loved that photo of you and your > husband in costume -- absolutely wonderful!! > > SML > > ====================================================== > Evil Henchman Guidelines: > #6. As soon as the evil lord has the Hero in his > power, seek the nearest available escape route. > The fewmets are about to hit the windmill. > ====================================================== Amanda, I second what SML said. It's an absolutely fantastic picture (and it made me homesick for Renaissance Festivals, I must admit)! I *did* notice the ring--drool! Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pbnesbit at msn.com Wed Mar 14 02:31:56 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 02:31:56 -0000 Subject: Progress on the Husband's Obsession Message-ID: <98ml6s+f5c6@eGroups.com> Well, I'd say he's becoming obsessed. He's on Prisoner of Azkaban now. We were discussing broomsticks this morning (!)Btw, he brought the subject up & he said he could probably make miniature ones. He's also asked me if I'd like a wand. (3 guesses what my answer was & the second 2 don't count ) He's also asking to see the trailer, & has taken the sorting hat house quiz (he's a Hufflepuff) and the character quiz (he came out most like Hagrid). He also wants an owl. I think he's well on the way to sharing my obsession. Now, if Dr. MM would just revise the obsession quiz... There *is* hope... Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From yael_pou at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 03:37:37 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:37:37 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Progress on the Husband's Obsession References: <98ml6s+f5c6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Thanks! You give all of us hope! Keep us posted. :) yael ----- Original Message ----- From: pbnesbit at msn.com Well, I'd say he's becoming obsessed. He's on Prisoner of Azkaban now. We were discussing broomsticks this morning (!)Btw, he brought the subject up & he said he could probably make miniature ones. He's also asked me if I'd like a wand. (3 guesses what my answer was & the second 2 don't count ) He's also asking to see the trailer, & has taken the sorting hat house quiz (he's a Hufflepuff) and the character quiz (he came out most like Hagrid). He also wants an owl. I think he's well on the way to sharing my obsession. Now, if Dr. MM would just revise the obsession quiz... There *is* hope... Peace & Plenty, Parker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yael_pou at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 03:39:21 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 05:39:21 +0200 Subject: Fw: Amanda's photo Message-ID: Amanda: "Well, Yael, you inspired me to attempt uploading a picture. I put an old pic of me and my own Hot Thing on the members' list on the main group. Sigh....I remember I used to think I was sooo fat then.....the foolishness of youth. " That's a wonderful photo! You look so genuine. :) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/Group%20Members/mandy%26jan.JPG Amanda: "By the way, if you bother to toodle over there and leer at us, Jan is wearing the lion ring on his index finger (although it's far too tiny to see well). " yeah, didn't even notice it before you said so. I gave the picture to my mother to pass on. I'll let you know if there's any news. thanks, yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 11:47:22 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:47:22 -0000 Subject: Price gouging In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98nloa+6s1p@eGroups.com> Sister Mary Lunatic wrote: > The cost of Omnioculars -- don't forget they were being sold at a sporting > event. That's a license to charge double or triple for everyday goods. > It's just like a vending machine charging 70 or 80 cents for a can of pop > that costs 20 cents a piece in a six-pack. Yeah, and the same 12 oz. of pop (you must be from the Midwest--I call it soda. One country divided by a single language ) would cost $3-4 at a sporting event. Amy Z P.S. Yael, I'm not jealous--my husband's the Hottest Thing in, well, he doesn't wear leather, but he doesn't need to! So nice to see how many of us are happy with our Dracoesque spouses. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 11:53:08 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:53:08 -0000 Subject: Progress on the Husband's Obsession In-Reply-To: <98ml6s+f5c6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98nm34+512u@eGroups.com> Parker wrote: > Well, I'd say he's becoming obsessed. *Becoming*?! Well done, Agent #37. Your mission has been extremely successful. The Overlord will reward you handsomely. Amy Z ------------------------------------------ "I thought it sounded a bit like Percy singing. Maybe you've got to attack him while he's in the shower, Harry." --HP and the Goblet of Fire ------------------------------------------ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 13 12:39:22 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:39:22 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: is Jeralyn really *me*? References: <98l32e+sl31@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Parker wrote: "Yael-- They are *adorable*!! (I wanted girls--I got boys when I married Doug)" Thanks! Having girls is the one advantage of allowing your husband to fry in computer monitors' radiation for ten years before you have kids. :) yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 13:49:58 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:49:58 -0000 Subject: Yael's *girls* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98nsu6+v431@eGroups.com> Yael wrote: > Thanks! Having girls is the one advantage of allowing your husband to fry in computer monitors' radiation for ten years before you have kids. :) I've heard lots of folk wisdom on how to choose the sex of your child, but this is a new one by me. I'll tell my husband, who would prefer a daughter and spends lots of time in front of the computer. Amy Z From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 14 16:16:16 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:16:16 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Progress on the Husband's Obsession.. getting others hooked References: <98nm34+512u@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <010801c0aca2$198e27c0$0814a3d1@doreen> Parker wrote: > Well, I'd say he's becoming obsessed. *Becoming*?! Well done, Agent #37. Your mission has been extremely successful. The Overlord will reward you handsomely. Amy Z I wonder, if a count were taken, how many people have been influenced by others on this list to read HP? Too bad there isn't a way to figure it out. It has got to be some kind of reading pyramid type thing. My Dutch friend has tried to get everyone in our chatroom to read HP from book one... finally, as she chatted incessantly about waiting for book three ... I made the decision to see what all her fuss was about when I noticed the low price of the SS paperback. Now, we both have loaned our copies ... and I have sent two copies to die-hard-will-not-reads ... one of whom has started the book, even though he states that he really should finish Dune first.. but the fact is that he is reading it. On the average, 1,000+ people, influencing at least 3 other people (I am sure this number is low) ... makes for some interesting numbers. Do you get the feeling that anyone who is not reading/has not read HP is starting to feel very much left out? Has this ever happened with any other book? (I know it has with certain television shows and movies, but I dont recall any other book causing quite the craze that HP has) Doreen From tanwo at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 18:15:19 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:15:19 -0000 Subject: Simon's Cameo; brit measurments question (was:Re: yael's pic) In-Reply-To: <98lur8+5ogm@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ocfn+s1sj@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > twelve pence in a shilling, twenty shillings to a pound. Obvious > really :) > > -Ben, who liked florins the best. Yes, I'd forgotten about florins (two shillings for those who don't know, = 24 real pennies = 10 new pence). The sort of word that JK would collect and use. And tanners of course ... Wotan. From tanwo at hotmail.com Wed Mar 14 18:19:45 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:19:45 -0000 Subject: *Yawn* More Swifties In-Reply-To: <98mcjc+7ua8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98oco1+a756@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > "Come here, Mikey. There's a good little goat, come to daddy," > Aberforth said, capriciously. > > "In conics I can floor peculiarities parabolous," said Professor > Vector, operettically. (apologies to G&S) > > "...you are going into a deep,deep sleep..." intoned Professor > Trelawney, ethereally. > > "Father tells me that the new DADA teacher is a woman...and she's > Greek!" Malfoy sneered, Xenaphobically. > > "...flesh of the servant, freely given..." said Pettigrew, > offhandedly. > > "All the Malfoys have been left-handed," said Draco, Sinisterly. > > "What does 'Vol-de-mort' mean in French?" Ron asked Hermione, > flightily. > > "*I* already have a date for the Ball," Hermione informed Ron, > Victoriously. > > "My, Dudley, how you've grown!" exclaimed Aunt Marge, fatuously. > > "'I am Lord Voldemort,'" is that supposed to be some kind of Riddle, > Tom?" Harry asked, backwardly. > > "There's two of us, that makes us a 'semifour,'" said Fred and > George, signally. > > "I understand that it is getting overpopulated at the bottom of the > lake," Hermione, said, mercifully. > > "O? est Madame Maxime?" Fleur inquired, Frankly. > > "I'm sorry, Ron, we couldn't get the store to extend our tab, so we > had to buy you second-hand dress robes," said Mrs Weasley, > incredulously. Bleuuuuuuuuuuuugh! Very good :)) Wish I'd thought of 'offhandedly', though I do have one lined up in that area - just got to check and see if it has been done. And was trying to think of a Viktor Krum one, but you beat me! Wotan From joym999 at aol.com Wed Mar 14 19:52:21 2001 From: joym999 at aol.com (joym999 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:52:21 -0000 Subject: you probably want to ignore this Message-ID: <98oi5l+bvfl@eGroups.com> I dont usually OT chatter much, but I needed a place to try on a few new hats. Not very interesting, I know. --Joywitch ^ / \ / \ / \ ? ? ^ / \ / \ __/ \__ ^ / \ / \ / \ ? ? ^ / \ / \ / \ __/ \__ From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Mar 14 21:17:15 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:17:15 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties ,,, question for Jim Flanagan about adverb useage In-Reply-To: <00a301c0a9e4$4616a260$ba3670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <98on4r+ub01@eGroups.com> A.P.Lardbhottom, Chief Office of Canonical Swifties Department of Magical Humour Ministry of Magic Internal Memo to: Theobald R Pedant Office of the Mother Tongue Dear Theo Thanks for setting young Appleby straight while I was out of the office. I generally detest funerals, but it is difficult to avoid one's own... As you recall, he is on exchange from the States, which explains his confusion about "stalls" and "cubicles". I told him one more error like that, and I'd have him transferred to Spoonerisms. (I didn't even mention the complaint from the Norwegians about the word "commode"!) At any rate, Appleby's out of sight, reviewing some "double Swifties" that were submited last week, and should cause no more embarassment to the Ministry. Arthur's boy is his counterpart at the Department of Magic in Washington. I expect he'll have the Yanks all sorted out inside of six months! Posthumously yours, A.P.L. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > From the desk of.... > > Theobald R Pedant > Office of the Mother Tongue > Department of Interwizarding Communications > Ministry of Magic > > Internal Memo to: > > Victor Appleton II > Office of Canonical Swifties > > Dear Vic > > In your recent owling to Mistress Doreen you stated the following: > > < > "Welcome to my humble stall," said Myrtle, commodiously. > > In this case, the adverb "commodiously" is, in fact, a real word, > and is highly appropriate in the context of the initial statement, > since "commodiously" implies welcoming. The humourosity of > the "play on words" component is high. > Finally, my 4-year old niece grasped the wordplay in less than > 0.71 seconds, a very small divisor, > resulting in an extremely high overall humourosity quotent.>> > > In my capacity as Deputy Chief Neckpain, and notwithstanding > the excellent play on the word commode, I feel I should point out > the reduction in hilarity afforded by the use of the noun "stall," > as this is generally understood by the British Wizarding community > to be a temporary construction from which traders sell their wares > in a market. Moaning Myrtle (deceased), being of British > extraction would most likely describe her sectioned abode > as a "cubicle". My own reaction time being rather greater than > than of your small niece, I felt it encumbent upon me to inform > you of this detail. > > Yours invidiously > > Theo From yael_pou at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 07:27:46 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:27:46 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] you probably want to ignore this References: <98oi5l+bvfl@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Last one came out the best with my settings :) ----- Original Message ----- From: joym999 at aol.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] you probably want to ignore this I dont usually OT chatter much, but I needed a place to try on a few new hats. Not very interesting, I know. --Joywitch ^ / \ / \ / \ - - ^ / \ / \ __/ \__ ^ / \ / \ / \ - - ^ / \ / \ / \ __/ \__ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 12:00:06 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:00:06 -0000 Subject: Yup, another Tom Swifty Message-ID: <98qas6+9j0e@eGroups.com> "That organization of Hermione's is a load of rubbish," Ron said disputably. Amy Z From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 14:20:30 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:20:30 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers Message-ID: <98qj3e+fg15@eGroups.com> The answers to yesterdays Times Two crossword were:- Across 7 Fulfilmet; compensation (12) - satisfaction 9 Allure of beauty (7) - glamour 10 Inadvertant error (5) - lapse 11 Indian melody (4) - raga 12 Entrancing (8) - Hypnotic 15 Make impossible (8) - preclude 17 Profit; aquire (4) - gain 19 Old centic alphabet (5) - ogham 21 Laertes' sister (Shak.) (7) - Ophelia 22 "Be lucky when otherse aren't" proverb (3,2,3,4) - Its an ill wind Down 1 Forceful speech (8) - harangue 2 US president, resigned (5) - Nixon 3 Noisy dispturbance (6) - Affray 4 Unequal sided triangle (7) - scalene 5 Feeble individual (4) - wimp 6 In tent; with sails spread (5,6) - Under canvas 8 Fear of outdoors (11) - agoraphobia 13 Bangkok it capital (8) - Thailand 14 Estranged wife's allowance (once) (7) - Alimoney 16 Idle little sketch (6) - Doodle 18 Demonstrated (5) - shown 20 Quiet! (4) - hush and Neil, cheers for the pen, I finished it before the train got to Woking. Dai From bassettlover at aol.com Thu Mar 15 15:28:17 2001 From: bassettlover at aol.com (bassettlover at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:17 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Progress on the Husband's Obsession.. getting others hooked Message-ID: In a message dated Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:33:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Doreen" writes: << Parker wrote: > Well, I'd say he's becoming obsessed. *Becoming*?! Well done, Agent #37. Your mission has been extremely successful. The Overlord will reward you handsomely. Amy Z I wonder, if a count were taken, how many people have been influenced by others on this list to read HP? Too bad there isn't a way to figure it out. It has got to be some kind of reading pyramid type thing. My Dutch friend has tried to get everyone in our chatroom to read HP from book one... finally, as she chatted incessantly about waiting for book three .. I made the decision to see what all her fuss was about when I noticed the low price of the SS paperback. Now, we both have loaned our copies ... and I have sent two copies to die-hard-will-not-reads ... one of whom has started the book, even though he states that he really should finish Dune first.. but the fact is that he is reading it. On the average, 1,000+ people, influencing at least 3 other people (I am sure this number is low) ... makes for some interesting numbers. Do you get the feeling that anyone who is not reading/has not read HP is starting to feel very much left out? Has this ever happened with any other book? (I know it has with certain television shows and movies, but I dont recall any other book causing quite the craze that HP has) Doreen >> Well, I for one would have probably never read HP, if it weren't for my step-grandfather to give me HPPS for a present, while I was visiting Germany last March. I tend to shy away from popular books, as I prefered to get books at a library, and if a book is that popular, you can never get a copy of it. I also detested fantasy. I was bored to death in Germany, as I don't know that much German, and when I was given an English book, I was thrilled. I stayed up all night reading it, and read it five times in fourty eight hours. I also went to every book store I could find, and read HPCS while I was there. My mother purchased POA, so I could read it on the plane ride home, and I read it twice. I convinced her to read PS on the plane, and then I immediately weent to the school library, and got out CS, to finsih, and read again, also so she could read it. We fought over GOF the day it came out. I also made a friend, who I would have never payed much attention to if it weren't for HP. We both have read the books over fifteen times each, and I'm trying to get her to read fan fiction. I have tried to get my other friends to read it, and I succeded on getting my aunt and cousins hooked. I don't know about other books/movies/tv shows getting quite a reaction, but I do say I did feel a little left out when a good friend and a another friend would bring the books to school, and I had no idea what they were talking about. Oh, yes, I'm new. Jennifer From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 15 16:17:30 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:17:30 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98qj3e+fg15@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98qpuq+1ufo@eGroups.com> "Dai Evans" wrote: The answers to yesterdays Times Two crossword were:- Thanks for that. But, um, Why? -Ben. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Thu Mar 15 17:24:59 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:24:59 -0000 Subject: HP Haiku for a slow day Message-ID: <98qttb+sk4g@eGroups.com> Formal style, 7-5-7 syllables per line: Hagrid hatches dragon egg in blazing fireplace Norbert rises stealthily Hermione does revisions like a Ravenclaw None will ever exceed her Malfoy prepares to duel Harry will fight him "Expelliarmus" they say Centaurs gaze in frigid night Mars shows out blood red The dark lord prepares for war Free style: How old is Dumbledore? No one knows, but Time itself. Fluffy guards the stone; heads, multiplied by three -- thief beware. From neilward at dircon.co.uk Thu Mar 15 18:05:01 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:05:01 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting In-Reply-To: <98qj3e+fg15@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Dai Evans wrote <> Somehow, I knew Dai wasn't joking when he said he'd post the solution to the crossword on this list. With that and Joy's hats, we've reached new heights of obscurity on this list! Dai is, I should add, the same person who attended yesterday's London gathering of five HPfGU listmembers wearing a curtain... sorry "a magical cloak". It was really nice to see people in the flesh, so to speak. Heather Mbaye had come all the way from the US *and* she came with gifts: pint glasses marked with the Hogwarts crest and the promise of a handcrafted wand each (I expect an owl delivery, of course). Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. We took a few photos on Heather's camera, which she has threatened to post here. I was impressed by the fact that Dai came up from Southampton and Simon from Oxford. Michelle didn't have so far to come, but still much further than me (I work near Oxford Circus, where we met... a curious coincidence). It was fun, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of New York list members for more of the same. I'd better sharpen my axe. And then... it's just the other 1050 of you to meet and I'm done . Neil Flying Ford Anglia From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Thu Mar 15 18:11:37 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:11:37 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001301c0ad7b$61b972a0$a45c063e@tmeltcds> > Dai is, I should add, the same person who attended yesterday's London > gathering of five HPfGU listmembers wearing a curtain... sorry "a > magical cloak". Green if I remember correctly ! > Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to > Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable > one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. Not had American so can't comment... > We took a few photos on Heather's camera, which she has threatened to > post here. Arrgh...goes to find paper bag... > I was impressed by the fact that Dai came up from Southampton and > Simon from Oxford. Michelle didn't have so far to come, but still > much further than me (I work near Oxford Circus, where we met... a > curious coincidence). Not too far...would have been an easier journey home if the junction of the M25 leading to my town wern't shut off... > It was fun, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of New York list > members for more of the same. I'd better sharpen my axe. Oh ha ha....very funny ! I had a great time. Oh and Dai....how's the hangover ? Michelle From john at walton.to Thu Mar 15 18:43:49 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:43:49 +0000 Subject: British Pizza dreadful In-Reply-To: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Neil Ward wrote: > Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to > Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable > one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. I have to agree with Heather here. British pizza *is* bad. In fact, it's buttock-clenchingly ghastly. Anyone from the US or Canada trying a British pizza will be sorely disappointed. --John ____________________________________________ "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." John Walton -- john at walton.to ____________________________________________ From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 15 18:56:05 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:56:05 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] British Pizza dreadful References: Message-ID: <3AB11045.958745E5@swbell.net> Hi -- John Walton wrote: > I have to agree with Heather here. British pizza *is* bad. In fact, > it's > buttock-clenchingly ghastly. Anyone from the US or Canada trying a > British pizza will be sorely disappointed. I can attest to this also! And .... they served potatoes with it. As if the crust wasn't enough starch on the plate .... 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Damn, Dai stole my idea! I'm going to have to rethink wearing my cloak to the NY get-together. ::sigh:: Perhaps a kilt...although it might get a bit nippy around the edges, there still being SNOW on the ground at home... or a witch hat. That might work. (Definitely not my Ferengi mask from 4 years ago, though.) --John PS. Neil, I find that in NY a bludgeon works far better than an axe. ____________________________________________ "No good opera plot can be sensible, for people do not sing when they are feeling sensible." -W. H. Auden John Walton -- john at walton.to ____________________________________________ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:32:34 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:32:34 -0000 Subject: NY HPFGU meeting (was: London HPfGU meeting) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98r5ci+q89v@eGroups.com> John wrote: > Damn, Dai stole my idea! I think we have to call him "Dangerous Dai" from now on. > PS. Neil, I find that in NY a bludgeon works far better than an axe. Or a Bludger. In fact, I think Bludgers have been Rudy Guiliani's Secret Weapon Against Street Crime. Neil, be prepared for the best pizza on the planet. Okay, I've tried it in a total of 3 countries, the other two being Israel and India, so it's completely outrageous to say that--but arrogance is part of my national heritage. Sounds like you all better meet in Little Italy so you can show them Brits how it's done. Amy Z originally from New Haven, CT, where the natives take pizza very, very seriously From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 15 19:38:03 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:38:03 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00df01c0ad87$76669b40$8a14a3d1@doreen> What crossword puzzle? I am clueless here ... but even if I did know about the whereabouts of said puzzle ... why would anyone post the answers without asking first if we wanted them? Doreen, cornfused in Iowa, *sigh* again ... or is that still? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting Dai Evans wrote <> Somehow, I knew Dai wasn't joking when he said he'd post the solution to the crossword on this list. With that and Joy's hats, we've reached new heights of obscurity on this list! Dai is, I should add, the same person who attended yesterday's London gathering of five HPfGU listmembers wearing a curtain... sorry "a magical cloak". It was really nice to see people in the flesh, so to speak. Heather Mbaye had come all the way from the US *and* she came with gifts: pint glasses marked with the Hogwarts crest and the promise of a handcrafted wand each (I expect an owl delivery, of course). Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. We took a few photos on Heather's camera, which she has threatened to post here. I was impressed by the fact that Dai came up from Southampton and Simon from Oxford. Michelle didn't have so far to come, but still much further than me (I work near Oxford Circus, where we met... a curious coincidence). It was fun, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of New York list members for more of the same. I'd better sharpen my axe. And then... it's just the other 1050 of you to meet and I'm done . Neil Flying Ford Anglia To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 21:03:16 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:03:16 -0500 Subject: Wild Theories listening to SS on tape. References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <000601c0ad93$5b6de3a0$10ccfea9@computer> Yeah I know, you're beginning to hate me? I still want to know how the Dursleys got off the rock. Grins. The names of the books is what drew my attention enough to make it into a post. Miranda? Quentin? I am rather surprised that Barnabas isn't in there? (Or perhaps it's Snape's ancestor? grins at that!) Ducks the flying fruit from the Snape-lovers. J/K on the aside! I also still am trying to picture how Hagrid "flew" to the rock. How did Hagrid know that was the day to take out the stone? Any later, and it would have been bye-bye stone, hello Voldie. And McG and AD couldn't be married. AD's martial status would have naturally been discovered by our Miss Granger by now--she researched Flamel pretty well, once they figured him out. And it did state he was married, but not AD. That doesn't rule out lovers, though. (Winks) How many times has she read Hogwarts... now? GRINS! That's enough to start a few threads of thought at least... Oh, and my last thought, after hearing Hagrid's discussion of Lily and James, and Harry's ability as a wizard in the hut. He made a comment about not knowing why Voldie never tried to get them on his side, but assumed it was because of their devotion to AD. What if that auror/etc job we keep plopping on them isn't it? What if they're... drum rolls.... of the Order of the Phoenix? That's why they're so pro-Dumbledore? He's something like the "grand-pubar" (sp) or whatnot? He sent them out to do things anti-Voldie.... Just a parting thought. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 15 21:39:26 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:39:26 -0000 Subject: Wild Theories listening to SS on tape. In-Reply-To: <000601c0ad93$5b6de3a0$10ccfea9@computer> Message-ID: <98rcqe+4hgb@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > Yeah I know, you're beginning to hate me? > > I still want to know how the Dursleys got off the rock. > > Grins. Maybe they floated using Dudley as an innertube? Grins back at Denise. > > The names of the books is what drew my attention enough to make it into a > post. Miranda? Quentin? I am rather surprised that Barnabas isn't in > there? (Or perhaps it's Snape's ancestor? grins at that!) > > Ducks the flying fruit from the Snape-lovers. > > J/K on the aside! Ah, another Dark Shadows fan! > > I also still am trying to picture how Hagrid "flew" to the rock. > > How did Hagrid know that was the day to take out the stone? Any later, and > it would have been bye-bye stone, hello Voldie. Maybe Dumbledore had a 'feeling' & told him to go get it? Maybe it's linked to Harry's birthday? > > And McG and AD couldn't be married. AD's martial status would have > naturally been discovered by our Miss Granger by now--she researched Flamel > pretty well, once they figured him out. And it did state he was married, > but not AD. That doesn't rule out lovers, though. (Winks) How many times > has she read Hogwarts... now? GRINS! > > > That's enough to start a few threads of thought at least... > > Oh, and my last thought, after hearing Hagrid's discussion of Lily and > James, and Harry's ability as a wizard in the hut. He made a comment about > not knowing why Voldie never tried to get them on his side, but assumed it > was because of their devotion to AD. What if that auror/etc job we keep > plopping on them isn't it? What if they're... > > drum rolls.... > > > > > > of the Order of the Phoenix? That's why they're so pro- Dumbledore? He's > something like the "grand-pubar" (sp) or whatnot? He sent them out to do > things anti-Voldie.... Have you been reading fanfic by Blaise? She has *several* stories along those same lines. Sirius, Remus, James & Lily were all working on ways to defeat mouldy Voldy. I highly recommend them, btw. > > > Just a parting thought. > > > > Parker > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From michelleapostolides at lineone.net Thu Mar 15 21:52:12 2001 From: michelleapostolides at lineone.net (Michelle Apostolides) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:52:12 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> <00df01c0ad87$76669b40$8a14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <008701c0ad9a$324f4ac0$ba2a7bd5@tmeltcds> > What crossword puzzle? I am clueless here ... but even if I did know about > the whereabouts of said puzzle ... why would anyone post the answers without > asking first if we wanted them? > Before we went our separate ways last night, Dai borrowed a pen from Neil so that he could do the Times crossword on the way back home and he jokingly ( so I thought ) said " I'll post the answers tomorrow. Makes sense now ? Michelle From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 15 22:08:16 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:08:16 -0600 Subject: SS/PS Threads Message-ID: <3AB13D50.64201385@swbell.net> Hi -- Can I suggest that Dee's message be posted to the main group & that discussions be moved over there? It is *on-topic* after all. We're really not trying to confuse everyone. Really. Penny the Mod Squad From aiz24 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 22:15:16 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:15:16 -0000 Subject: Wild Theories listening to SS on tape. In-Reply-To: <000601c0ad93$5b6de3a0$10ccfea9@computer> Message-ID: <98retk+6sk4@eGroups.com> Denise wrote: > I still want to know how the Dursleys got off the rock. > > Grins. Who cares? I hope they had to swim. > I also still am trying to picture how Hagrid "flew" to the rock. You got me there. Maybe he took a broomstick but sent it back solo to Dumbledore since he wasn't going to fly Harry back. A Banishing charm should do it. > How did Hagrid know that was the day to take out the stone? Any later, and > it would have been bye-bye stone, hello Voldie. It's the other way around. Dumbledore decided Hogwarts would be safer than Gringotts, and said, "Hagrid, you gotta go pick up Harry since those *&#$% Dursleys obviously aren't letting him get his mail, so run by Gringotts, will you, and pick me up a quart of milk while you're at it too." So the question is, how did Quirrell/Voldy know that he'd better act now? Because Hagrid has a big mouth and everyone at Hogwarts knew he was going to fetch Harry that day. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped a few hints that he was going to Gringotts to pick up a little package too. Wait a second--this is on topic. What's going on? What's wrong with us? Are we actually interested in Harry Potter or something? Quick, someone post a list of completely un-HP-related crosswords answers or we'll all be in trouble! Amy Z From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 15 22:37:19 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:37:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> <00df01c0ad87$76669b40$8a14a3d1@doreen> <008701c0ad9a$324f4ac0$ba2a7bd5@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <004c01c0ada0$81492140$2e14a3d1@doreen> *phew* I thought I missed some HP secret crossword puzzle or something .. BIG THANKS .. *smile* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Apostolides" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting > What crossword puzzle? I am clueless here ... but even if I did know about > the whereabouts of said puzzle ... why would anyone post the answers without > asking first if we wanted them? > Before we went our separate ways last night, Dai borrowed a pen from Neil so that he could do the Times crossword on the way back home and he jokingly ( so I thought ) said " I'll post the answers tomorrow. Makes sense now ? Michelle To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 15 22:51:41 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:51:41 -0000 Subject: london In-Reply-To: <984684637.669.40809.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Dai Evans wrote: <> Neil: <<>> It was good to have the times crossword answered for me. Not as if I could do it myself! Neil: <<>> It made him easy to spot. After standing there for a few minutes deciding whether we should approach a loan female in the pub to find out if she was the person we were looking for it made it nice and easy for us to spot Dai. Neil: <<>> I have my glass out on a table. Now to decide where I should have it on display. Neil: <<>> May have to run and hide before then. Can I stand another 'Simon is cute' session? Neil: <<>> It was not too far. It just meant sitting on the coach for just less than 2 hours. And then doing my best to stay awake for the return journey. It sounded as if Dai had a much worse journey. Neil: <<>> I was glad that the axe was not needed last night. Though maybe you posted the Times crossword answer dealing with Dai after I had left you to catch my tube. Neil: <<.>>> Good luck. Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 15 22:53:13 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:53:13 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98qj3e+fg15@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98rh4p+6jop@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Dai Evans" wrote: > The answers to yesterdays Times Two crossword were:- > > Across > 7 Fulfilmet; compensation (12) - satisfaction > 9 Allure of beauty (7) - glamour > 10 Inadvertant error (5) - lapse > 11 Indian melody (4) - raga > 12 Entrancing (8) - Hypnotic > 15 Make impossible (8) - preclude > 17 Profit; aquire (4) - gain > 19 Old centic alphabet (5) - ogham > 21 Laertes' sister (Shak.) (7) - Ophelia > 22 "Be lucky when otherse aren't" proverb (3,2,3,4) - Its an ill wind > > Down > 1 Forceful speech (8) - harangue > 2 US president, resigned (5) - Nixon > 3 Noisy dispturbance (6) - Affray > 4 Unequal sided triangle (7) - scalene > 5 Feeble individual (4) - wimp > 6 In tent; with sails spread (5,6) - Under canvas > 8 Fear of outdoors (11) - agoraphobia > 13 Bangkok it capital (8) - Thailand > 14 Estranged wife's allowance (once) (7) - Alimoney > 16 Idle little sketch (6) - Doodle > 18 Demonstrated (5) - shown > 20 Quiet! (4) - hush > > and Neil, cheers for the pen, I finished it before the train got to > Woking. > > Dai Huh? Not sure I like your answer to 14 down ;) Wotan Another Times crossword fan From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 15 22:55:00 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:55:00 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] ADMIN Penny References: <3AB13D50.64201385@swbell.net> Message-ID: <017501c0ada2$f7300340$10ccfea9@computer> Sorry Penny. I am still really confused. I wasn't certain, and decided it better to err in this manner than the other! :) Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" To: "HPFGU - OT Chatter" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] SS/PS Threads > Hi -- > > Can I suggest that Dee's message be posted to the main group & that > discussions be moved over there? It is *on-topic* after all. > We're really not trying to confuse everyone. Really. > > Penny > the Mod Squad > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 15 23:54:30 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:54:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] NY HPFGU meeting (was: London HPfGU meeting) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, John Walton wrote: > ::sigh:: Perhaps a kilt...although it might get a bit nippy around > the edges, there still being SNOW on the ground at home... It's actually not *that* cold here right now... it was over 50 today (52, 53ish, Fahrenheit, of course *g*), and there's only a few isolated patches o' snow left... I think the weather's the same in the city... though Connecticut and such might still have some snow on the ground. I got to go outside without a coat today, yay! > PS. Neil, I find that in NY a bludgeon works far better than an axe. Bludgeons made of wood'll go through metal detectors, too. :) --jen, ever helpful :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 15 23:57:49 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Buying the books (spoiler free)... Message-ID: Hey all, I was afraid, at first, that by the time I got to the Barnes & Noble near my mom's on Monday evening, the books would be all sold out. But I decided to chance not getting them that way rather than chance not getting them online, since I knew I would be at my mother's, and not at home. (Spring break. My mother goes to Florida, and I watch her house (and my 18-yr-old brother...) for her. Fun, fun. *g*) But there were actually quite a few copies -- in a display in the children's department, that wasn't in the line of sight as you walked in, nor was it with the other HP stuff. I found them, but only with difficulty, and not before my friend who went with me had asked, "Are you *sure* they're being released today?" (I was sure.) Did other bookstores do a better job? If I hadn't been specifically looking for them, I *wouldn't* have seen them, or, thus, bought them. And then I still had to wait several hours before I could ditch my friend and go home and read them *g*. But oh! They were so cute and fun... I *loved* the comments the kids made in FB (I have a few schoolbooks with such snarkiness in them myself!)... And I agree wholeheartedly with AmyZ -- I *want* a Puffskein. They do sound just like Tribbles... and I always wanted one of those too... But then, I thought Norbert sounded cute, too, so p'rhaps my judgement is a little suspect. :) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 00:12:08 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:12:08 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting In-Reply-To: <001301c0ad7b$61b972a0$a45c063e@tmeltcds> Message-ID: <98rloo+j2b9@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Michelle Apostolides" wrote: > > > > Dai is, I should add, the same person who attended yesterday's London > > gathering of five HPfGU listmembers wearing a curtain... sorry "a > > magical cloak". > Green if I remember correctly ! Only those of a foolish disposition are unable to see the magical properties of the cloak. > > Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to > > Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable > > one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. > Not had American so can't comment... She also, as I recall, denounced Italian Pizza to be quite terrible (or words to that effect), Italy being the country of origin for said dish. Although I can't deny that the Pizza Express pizzas were shamefully bad. > > We took a few photos on Heather's camera, which she has threatened to > > post here. > Arrgh...goes to find paper bag... I am looking forward to seeing them. > > > I was impressed by the fact that Dai came up from Southampton and > > Simon from Oxford. Michelle didn't have so far to come, but still > > much further than me (I work near Oxford Circus, where we met... a > > curious coincidence). > Not too far...would have been an easier journey home if the junction of > the M25 leading to my town wern't shut off... As Simon mentioned in a previous post, my journey from Soton was perhaps the worst train experience of my life (save maybe for that time I was in Bristol Temple Meads waiting for the train to leave for Paddington when the carriage filled with smoke). The train picked me up from Southampton Central 3 minutes late. It arrived in Waterloo 1 hour and 19 minutes late. > > > It was fun, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of New York list > > members for more of the same. I'd better sharpen my axe. > Oh ha ha....very funny ! Be afraid New York, quiver. > I had a great time. Oh and Dai....how's the hangover ? I didn't have a hangover this morning. I don't think I had that much to drink. If I did then I must have slept through any hangover by not getting up till 12:30. Dai From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 00:12:23 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:12:23 -0000 Subject: Yup, another Tom Swifty In-Reply-To: <98qas6+9j0e@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98rlp7+lcil@eGroups.com> And some more - apologies if any of these have been done, it's getting hard to keep track! "We have to feed the Skrewts every seven days," moaned Ginny weakly. "What do you mean hooked?" asked Snape nosily. "Welcome to the Chamber of Secrets," sneered Riddle archly. "Wormtail, lend a hand" said Voldemort cuttingly. "I see" said Moody obliquely. "Harry, flowers!" beamed Hermione rosily. "A cross between a man and a what?" rasped Ron hoarsely. "And what's wrong with my jokes" said Snape unwittingly. "How about a marquee for the champions?" asked Bagman tentatively. "I *will* transfigure," snarled Sirius doggedly. And a terrible attempt at a 'Shakespearean' one - "A little touch of Harry in the night" sighed Ginny Will-ingly. Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 00:13:47 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:13:47 -0000 Subject: Double Tom Swiftie Message-ID: <98rlrr+omus@eGroups.com> "I don't think much of Gryffindor's sword" said Draco bluntly. "Sharp enough to deal with you" said Hermione pointedly. Wotan From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 16 01:52:14 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:52:14 -0000 Subject: Buying the books (spoiler free)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98rrke+ieem@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Jen Faulkner wrote: > Hey all, > > I was afraid, at first, that by the time I got to the Barnes & Noble > near my mom's on Monday evening, the books would be all sold out. But I > decided to chance not getting them that way rather than chance not > getting them online, since I knew I would be at my mother's, and not at > home. (Spring break. My mother goes to Florida, and I watch her house > (and my 18-yr-old brother...) for her. Fun, fun. *g*) But there were > actually quite a few copies -- in a display in the children's > department, that wasn't in the line of sight as you walked in, nor was > it with the other HP stuff. I found them, but only with difficulty, and > not before my friend who went with me had asked, "Are you *sure* they're > being released today?" (I was sure.) Did other bookstores do a better > job? If I hadn't been specifically looking for them, I *wouldn't* have > seen them, or, thus, bought them. > > And then I still had to wait several hours before I could ditch my > friend and go home and read them *g*. But oh! They were so cute and > fun... I *loved* the comments the kids made in FB (I have a few > schoolbooks with such snarkiness in them myself!)... > > And I agree wholeheartedly with AmyZ -- I *want* a Puffskein. They do > sound just like Tribbles... and I always wanted one of those > too... But then, I thought Norbert sounded cute, too, so p'rhaps my > judgement is a little suspect. :) > > --jen :) > > * * * * * * > Jen's HP fics: > http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html > Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash > Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. Well, I bought mine from B & N online. I *still* haven't gotten them. (It may be a problem with my postperson--I don't know) I thought that they'd be all sold out by the time I got to the store on Tuesday (my day off). We walked into Books-A-Million, & there they were, big as life, in a *huge* Harry Potter display. *I could have bought them & read them 10 times by now!!* I also bought the UK versions from Amazon.co.uk. Through a mistake (mine) I ordered 2 copies of each of the books. If someone would like to buy a copy, just e-mail me & let me know. They've already shipped them out (& I ordered just last night!), so I should have them fairly soon. Peace & Plenty, Parker From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 05:10:03 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:10:03 -0000 Subject: HP Haiku for a slow day (warning, LONG) In-Reply-To: <98qttb+sk4g@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98s77b+hjjc@eGroups.com> "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Formal style, 7-5-7 syllables per line: Just a little nit-pick here, as I just taught my students haiku a few weeks ago, so it's fresh in my head: A formal Haiku has typically 17 syllables, in a 5-7-5 pattern. See my contributions following Jim's excellent (but not standard! ;) ) examples... > Hagrid hatches dragon egg > in blazing fireplace > Norbert rises stealthily > > Hermione does revisions > like a Ravenclaw > None will ever exceed her > > Malfoy prepares to duel > Harry will fight him > "Expelliarmus" they say > > Centaurs gaze in frigid night > Mars shows out blood red > The dark lord prepares for war Typical 5-7-5 haiku (with an HP theme, of course) Dragon eggs hatching in a domus made of wood. Get some water, quick! Hermione and Ron Some think there is something more there than meets the eye Snape's a nasty man or so we would have believed... Dumbledore trusts him. Okay, I'm no poet. It's all I could think of. Every time I do a haiku, it makes me think back to my good ol' days in high school, where we had "fun poetry" days... and the "limerick" I made up with my best friend Anna... (VERY OT here, but it's allowed... HA!) There once was a man with no shoes Who couldn't stop singing the blues One day in the rain He felt a sharp pain And he SCREAMED AND HE SCREAMED but nobody heard him, so he died and was put on the news. Anna and I laughed so loud in class that we got in trouble. We thought we might be able to get out of it if we showed our teacher the masterpiece we'd written, but alas, our teacher had NO sense of humor (that she'd show US, in any case). I still have bitter for Mrs. Nicholson, because I thought my poetry was great, and she kept giving me bad grades on it. And THAT is why I'm not a poet, and why my haiku is probably so bad. But I'm sure that the syllables are right. ;) Whew, that was a terribly OT post. Oh wait. No it wasn't. Because all OT posts are OnTopic here. ;) Jen (who just finished grading her students' final papers, and has to start ALL OVER AGAIN with another batch of students next week. Just nine more weeks, just nine more weeks, just nine more weeks........) From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 16 05:09:50 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:09:50 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Regional food, message for TEXANS References: <98rloo+j2b9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB1A01E.B59632B9@texas.net> Dai Evans wrote: > Only those of a foolish disposition are unable to see the magical > properties of the cloak. Well spoken, O Emperor. > She also, as I recall, denounced Italian Pizza to be quite terrible > (or words to that effect), Italy being the country of origin for said > dish. Incorrect. New York City is the country of origin for said dish. Italian pizza was a seminal influence thereon, but the pizza as known and loved in this country is a native New Yorker. This experience with British *ahem* "pizza," for lack of a better euphemism, is familiar to any Texan who has tried to order Mexican food north of Dallas, by the way. Anyone else ever had to stare down refried beans made with *black beans*? AND TEXANS, UNITE! How's San Antonio for our regional gathering? It's my first proposal, since I live in the area, but I'm amenable to Austin too, as more central (and probably closer to the old Texian Academy of Magick--maybe we could arrange a tour?). --Amanda, rabble-rousing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 05:21:31 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:21:31 -0000 Subject: Regional food, message for TEXANS In-Reply-To: <3AB1A01E.B59632B9@texas.net> Message-ID: <98s7sr+uad4@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > This experience with British *ahem* "pizza," for lack of a better > euphemism, is familiar to any Texan who has tried to order Mexican > food north of Dallas, by the way. Anyone else ever had to stare > down refried beans made with *black beans*? > > AND TEXANS, UNITE! > --Amanda, rabble-rousing Boy, I'm pretty vocal tonight, huh? Anyway, this topic of Mexican food is a sore one with me. I grew up (and am living now) in the central valley of California (former home of Caesar Chavez), where the Mexican-American population is at LEAST 50% of the total, if not more in my area. There is no excuse for anyone to have to suffer through bad Mexican food around here - and I grew up LOVING it. Of course, one time while visiting relatives in Maryland, my sisters took us out to "Mexican" food. They never dared do it again, we complained so much. The rice was full of "stuff" and it was soupy, the beans were black beans - and they weren't refried. And the enchiladas were... well, yuck. Anyway, Texans, be reassured... if you ever have to travel to California, you CAN eat the Mexican food. ;) Jen (who just bought some great tamales from some little girl selling them door-to-door. Porterville, CA rule #1: if someone is selling tamales door-to-door (or in your office, or at school, etc), BUY THEM, and buy MANY OF THEM.) ps. someone just knock me out now before I start talking EVEN MORE! - at least, send me a howler for using too many caps! From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 07:25:21 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:25:21 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: NY HPFGU meeting (was: London HPfGU meeting) & NY food References: <98r5ci+q89v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <014501c0adea$44406fc0$6914a3d1@doreen> Neil, be prepared for the best pizza on the planet. Amy Z Can the rest of us put in our "Care Package" requests now? Like some Ray's pizza slices and some calzones? oh .. and a REAL pastrami on rye... oh and a couple Blimpeys and some sliders .... and some hot pretzels and mustard sauce... and ummm Doreen, who doesn't miss NYC a bit .. From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 07:54:31 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:54:31 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wild Theories listening to SS on tape. References: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> <000601c0ad93$5b6de3a0$10ccfea9@computer> Message-ID: <017501c0adee$569b1680$6914a3d1@doreen> Denise R (hope that is who) wrote: Oh, and my last thought, after hearing Hagrid's discussion of Lily and James, and Harry's ability as a wizard in the hut. He made a comment about not knowing why Voldie never tried to get them on his side, but assumed it was because of their devotion to AD. What if that auror/etc job we keep plopping on them isn't it? What if they're... drum rolls.... of the Order of the Phoenix? That's why they're so pro-Dumbledore? He's something like the "grand-pubar" (sp) or whatnot? He sent them out to do things anti-Voldie.. Just a parting thought. hmmmmmm What if James & Lily are OoP ... and what if Voldie used to be one too? I mean, maybe he was not totally turned evil yet ... maybe in his twenties... and they all 3 belonged ... maybe that is when he had a "thing for Lily"? Am I off the wall here? Or is it just past my bedtime? BTW ... if the OT group goes OnTopic... does some Lord Overseer move the letters to the right group while we sleep? Doreen From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 09:08:54 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:08:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Yup, another Tom Swifty References: <98rlp7+lcil@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <024801c0adf8$babe4420$6914a3d1@doreen> And some more - apologies if any of these have been done, it's getting hard to keep track! Wotan Is this a hint that I have been falling behind in my job of posting the TS to the text file? *smile* I will get back to doing that this weekend. I have been so caught up in the great topics which have come up lately... and the new books. Keep those TS coming though, people ... Doreen From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 10:09:48 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:09:48 -0000 Subject: Yup, another Tom Swifty In-Reply-To: <024801c0adf8$babe4420$6914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98sopc+jt1l@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > And some more - apologies if any of these have been done, it's > getting hard to keep track! > > Wotan > > Is this a hint that I have been falling behind in my job of posting the TS > to the text file? *smile* I will get back to doing that this weekend. I have > been so caught up in the great topics which have come up lately... and the > new books. > > Keep those TS coming though, people ... > Doreen Only the very gentlest of hints . Ta! Wotan :o) From naama_gat at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 10:54:51 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:54:51 -0000 Subject: And another... Message-ID: <98srdr+te9m@eGroups.com> N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, half-heartedly. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 12:23:16 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:23:16 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98rh4p+6jop@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t0jk+s4v@eGroups.com> Dangerous Dai wrote This can't be the vaunted Times crossword--it seems way too easy! Or do they get harder as the week goes on, as in the NY Times? I also thought British crosswords were all cryptics (that's what we call the ones with the puns and anagrams in the US). Still, I'm impressed by your doing it in pen. > > > > and Neil, cheers for the pen, I finished it before the train got to > > Woking. Aha, that British use of "cheers." That explains: "'Well, yeh might've bent a few rules, Harry, bu' yeh're all righ' really, aren' you?' 'Cheers, Hagrid,' said Harry, grinning." Amy Z From naama_gat at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 12:25:44 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:25:44 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting In-Reply-To: <98r08d+ib7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t0o8+k8dp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Dai Evans wrote > > <> > > Somehow, I knew Dai wasn't joking when he said he'd post the solution > to the crossword on this list. With that and Joy's hats, we've > reached new heights of obscurity on this list! > > Dai is, I should add, the same person who attended yesterday's London > gathering of five HPfGU listmembers wearing a curtain... sorry "a > magical cloak". > > It was really nice to see people in the flesh, so to speak. Heather > Mbaye had come all the way from the US *and* she came with gifts: > pint glasses marked with the Hogwarts crest and the promise of a > handcrafted wand each (I expect an owl delivery, of course). > > Food Facts: Heather declared lemon sherbets to be similar to > Lemonheads but with a crunchy coating instead of a firm but biteable > one. She also declared British pizza the worst she'd ever had. > > We took a few photos on Heather's camera, which she has threatened to > post here. > > I was impressed by the fact that Dai came up from Southampton and > Simon from Oxford. Michelle didn't have so far to come, but still > much further than me (I work near Oxford Circus, where we met... a > curious coincidence). > > It was fun, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of New York list > members for more of the same. I'd better sharpen my axe. > > And then... it's just the other 1050 of you to meet and I'm done . > > Neil > Flying Ford Anglia I'm so, so jealous of you Brits and Americans! I'm so curious about the people in this group, I'd just love to meet some of them. And I thought that living is Israel stinks because of the Intifada, terrorism, right wing politics, the heat, water pollution.. Nah, it's much worse - its too far away from HP meetings!!!! Naama From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 12:35:54 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:35:54 -0000 Subject: And another... In-Reply-To: <98srdr+te9m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t1ba+9rqp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote: > N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: > > > "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, half-heartedly. Ouch! Love it! ;-) Amy From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 16 12:50:30 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:50:30 -0000 Subject: British Food Question Message-ID: <98t26m+imdl@eGroups.com> I posted this yesterday over at the Food Group but got no answer, so I'll post it here. I bought a sherbet fountain on Tuesday & have *no idea* how to get into the thing to eat it. Any of you Brits out there who are willing to educate an American on how to eat this thing, I'd appreciate it. Peace & Plenty, Parker From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 13:12:54 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:12:54 -0000 Subject: rambling thoughts on pacifism Message-ID: <98t3gm+fu74@eGroups.com> Naama wrote on the main list: > In parenthesis I'd like to add that I've always found it hard to take > pacifist positions seriously. Would you really not kill an enemy that > threatens your life and the life of your family or friends? I would. > I don't even see the moral dilemma of it. I might feel terrible > afterwards, I might not recover from having killed a human being, but > a moral dilemma? No. > When I do take pacifist position seriously, they seem to me like an > evasion of the responsibility of actually dealing with reality as > part of that reality. To a-priory refuse to kill anybody, including > those who wish to kill you, you avoid the really difficult part of > living as a moral being - actully looking reality in the face, and > deciding, in each particular case, what the right moral choice is. > But that's just another kind of fear - the fear of making mistakes. Hmmm...I have to go into the "would-be pacifist" category. I have a profound respect for pacifism, I do a lot of volunteer work for a pacifist organization (American Friends Service Committee), and in many ways I aspire to it--yet I'm not 100% convinced. All that being said-- To me the essence of pacifism's merits comes from its view of the inseparability of means and ends. To kill someone in pursuit of a higher purpose (e.g. protection of another innocent person) is to say that you can accomplish good ends via evil means. Maybe you can--but the fruit of evil means will always be partly evil, in my view. This is not a conclusive argument in favor of pacifism; it may well be that we just all have to live with the mixed consequences of our actions. We all have dirty hands, and there's no avoiding it. But I'm just giving weak paraphrases of what others have written with much brilliance and commitment. I'd recommend reading Gandhi for a primer (also "Dirty Hands," a play by Sartre). I just want to note that most of the pacifists I've known, whether in person or through their writings, far from operating from a fear of mistakes, do look reality in the face and are making extremely brave and difficult choices. In real life, of course, there's always a context. The question doesn't face us as a pure philosophical one, would you ever kill someone, but "would you kill someone in order to support the US government's current policy in Southeast Asia?" or "would you kill someone who appeared to be coming at you with a knife, although it's all happening in a rush and you're not entirely sure what's going on?" or "would you inject the poison into this person who has been convicted of murder by a particular court in a particular time and place?" It all depends. Depends on the government's policy in SE Asia, depends on my reflexes and instincts, depends on whether I trust that justice system. Which is why I'm enjoying this discussion re: HP so much. We have the context; we'll see what Harry and the others (and Jo) do with their difficult choices, and we can look at the whole story and wonder what is the right thing to do. And we'll know and love the characters so that we can understand even when they do something that in the abstract might not seem "the right thing" (c.f. the last couple days' discussion of Sirius the "sirius jerk"). Amy Z From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 16 13:19:01 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:19:01 -0000 Subject: British Food Question In-Reply-To: <98t26m+imdl@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t3s5+5lqq@eGroups.com> Parker said: <> Basically, you "suck it and see": you suck the sherbet through the hollow liquorice and then eat the liquorice stick. Neil FFA From treehavn at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 16 13:29:16 2001 From: treehavn at yahoo.co.uk (=?iso-8859-1?q?emily=20greenstreet?=) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:29:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] British Food Question In-Reply-To: <98t26m+imdl@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010316132916.3020.qmail@web12802.mail.yahoo.com> I posted this yesterday over at the Food Group but got no answer, so I'll post it here. I bought a sherbet fountain on Tuesday & have *no idea* how to get into the thing to eat it. Any of you Brits out there who are willing to educate an American on how to eat this thing, I'd appreciate it. Peace & Plenty, Parker is it one of those in a tube with a stick of licorice with it or a sherbert dibdab with a lolly? i'll assume its the first one - in theory you're supposed to stick the licorice tube into the top of the sherbert packet and suck the sherbert thru it. however in practise it gets all gunky and spit-locked and you end up biting bits of sherbert covered licorice off. when the licorice's gone you either attempt to tip the remaining sherbert into your mouth and chuck it down your front or stick your finger in and eat it that way. either, you end up all sticky and messy and feel sick. damn, who knew i could write so much gubbins about something so small. sorry. (goes back to lurking and quiet amusement), ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From naama_gat at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 13:41:35 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:41:35 -0000 Subject: rambling thoughts on pacifism In-Reply-To: <98t3gm+fu74@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t56f+4lm6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Hmmm...I have to go into the "would-be pacifist" category. I have a > profound respect for pacifism, I do a lot of volunteer work for a > pacifist organization (American Friends Service Committee), and in > many ways I aspire to it--yet I'm not 100% convinced. All that being > said-- > > To me the essence of pacifism's merits comes from its view of the > inseparability of means and ends. To kill someone in pursuit of a > higher purpose (e.g. protection of another innocent person) is to say > that you can accomplish good ends via evil means. Maybe you can-- but > the fruit of evil means will always be partly evil, in my view. This > is not a conclusive argument in favor of pacifism; it may well be that > we just all have to live with the mixed consequences of our actions. > We all have dirty hands, and there's no avoiding it. > I want to think more of what you've written, but there is something here I'd like to point out. I'm not sure that to kill someone in self defense *is* "evil means". By assuming that killing is wrong, regardless of context, you're begging the question, it seems to me. My point is (and I haven't thought about it as much as the issue merits) that killing in self defense in *not* "evil means". By putting "killing" in a certain context, you don't excuse it, you actually change its moral qualification. (For instance, "the vet killed the terminally-ill dog".) "Evil means for good ends" means to me something like, allowing an innocent person to die in order to save more innocent people. If an action is not wrong, I don't see that it is "evil means". To me, again, it seems like the easy way out. By categorically deciding that action X, regardless of context, is evil, you make it falsely easy to make a moral choice. Naama From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 16 14:16:26 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:16:26 -0000 Subject: HP Haiku for a slow day (PG-13) In-Reply-To: <98s77b+hjjc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t77q+f5d4@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" wrote: > A formal Haiku has typically 17 syllables, in a 5-7-5 pattern. Thanks for setting me straight on the haiku syllables. I never can get that right. It's probably because I was warped by the first one I ever heard, which was on a Fugs album from the 1960's. See below. -Jim WARNING: THIS HAIKU IS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do not tell me, I am source of your "knock-up" The mud elephant wading through the sea leaves no tracks* ______________ *This was written before DNA testing. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 14:19:55 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:19:55 -0000 Subject: rambling thoughts on pacifism In-Reply-To: <98t56f+4lm6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98t7eb+i8i6@eGroups.com> Naama wrote: > I want to think more of what you've written, but there is something > here I'd like to point out. > I'm not sure that to kill someone in self defense *is* "evil means". > By assuming that killing is wrong, regardless of context, you're > begging the question, it seems to me. True, I *am* assuming that killing is bad. This assumption warrants some closer examination (!! to say the least), but it isn't begging the question. Even if we accept that killing is something to be avoided if at all possible, the question still remains: is it nevertheless justified (even required) to kill in certain circumstances? I do think it is sometimes justifiable to kill, even an innocent person (whatever "innocent" may mean...). But for now I'll stick with the premise that killing a person is "evil means." I think it all comes down to my very deep belief that no one is beyond redemption. When we kill someone--however depraved and beyond any scrap of goodness he/she may be--we cut off that possibility. To me, that is very tragic, and something for which those of us who pull the trigger need to take responsibility (I am included in this number, as a person who has voted for pro-death-penalty candidates, e.g. Al Gore). It may still be the right thing to do, but it is never completely good. Or so go my thoughts on March 16, 2001. Ask me in a week or a year and you'll get something different . . . I've been actively struggling with this question since I was 12 and I don't see any sign that I'm going to resolve it in my lifetime. Peace, Amy Z From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Mar 16 14:38:00 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: Swifties! Message-ID: <98t8g8+o29s@eGroups.com> At the faculty/alumni luncheon: "I haven't eaten in over 500 years, " said Nick tastelessly. "I'm very fond of Harry," Myrtle said, flushing. "I don't care for toilet humor, " said Sir Patrick headlessly. "Care for some tripe?" asked Minerva cattily. "Certainly, it's so savory,"said Trelawney sibilantly "I prefer stuffing," said Dumbledore sagely, "The future looks grim," said Sirius blackly. "Not like the good old days," said Lupin moonily. "Several students have missed their exams," said Snape detestably. "There's birds nesting in the chimneys," said Filch, changing the subject swiftly. From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Mar 16 14:43:51 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:43:51 -0600 Subject: Regional food, message for TEXANS References: <98rloo+j2b9@eGroups.com> <3AB1A01E.B59632B9@texas.net> Message-ID: <3AB226A7.1F29AC29@swbell.net> Hi -- Amanda Lewanski wrote: > This experience with British *ahem* "pizza," for lack of a better > euphemism, is familiar to any Texan who has tried to order Mexican > food north of Dallas, by the way. Anyone else ever had to stare down > refried beans made with *black beans*? An OT rant I can definitely participate in!! While I prefer the real Tex-Mex refried beans (the greasier the better), refried beans made with black beans are a fine substitute in my book. What I find difficult to bear when eating Mexican food outside the great state of Texas (although I confess to never having eaten it in California, so I'll reserve judgment based on Jen's claims) -- the lack of spices!!! I find it absolutely incomprehensible that you can serve salsa that has little more spice than ketchup with some cumin mixed in & label it "salsa." Salsa served in Texas Mexican restaurants: well, the non-natives are best off waiting until the waiter has served the ice water before digging in (natives, however, can happily munch on chips & salsa for 15-20 minutes without need of a beverage). The food served in Mexican restaurants elsewhere is similarly bland. I went to a Mexican place in Iowa City once (God help me) -- told the waiter I was from Texas and wanted the spiciest thing on the menu. He brought me a burrito that had been spiced almost entirely with chili powder (Yuck!). Mexican restaurants elsewhere seem to tone down their food to meet local sensibilities. I ate in a Mexican place a few times last summer while in South Dakota for 9 days .... I think I embarassed my travelling companion by requesting bowl after bowl of "salsa" to throw over my main dish in an effort to spice it up somewhat. Mexican food in London. Done that too. The summer of 1989 was the hottest on record in the UK (at least up to that point). My friend and I ventured at least twice a week to Chi-Chi's Mexican chain (can no longer remember where in London it was) .... reason? They had air conditioning, they served beverages with ice without being asked repeatedly and the food was .... well "somewhat spicy." Okay, so we mainly went for the air conditioning & iced beverages. While I have had very good Mexican food in New Mexico, Colorado & Arizona -- it's a different style than Tex-Mex. I think Tex-Mex may be quite unique. I'm with Amanda though -- if you want the *best* Mexican food, you need to come to Texas! > AND TEXANS, UNITE! > > How's San Antonio for our regional gathering? It's my first proposal, > since I live in the area, but I'm amenable to Austin too, as more > central (and probably closer to the old Texian Academy of > Magick--maybe we could arrange a tour?). I would love either location, but my presence depends on timing due to impending arrival of Baby Linsenmayer. I will almost certainly be in San Antonio in mid-September as Bryce has a firm retreat then at the La Cantera resort. I'm not missing *that* -- even if Baby must accompany us. Penny From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Mar 16 14:51:43 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:51:43 -0600 Subject: SHIP information request References: <026001c0adfb$641ea3a0$6914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3AB2287F.40A2FD3D@swbell.net> Hi -- I've moved this thread over to OT-Chatter since it doesn't involve anything from canon as yet. Doreen wrote: > Is there a file or list or something where I can learn the basics > about ships? I have searched the messages and so forth ... and there > is simply TMI! It is in a FAQ entitled "Potential Romance Pairings." This FAQ is written and ready to be uploaded. The technical staff of the FAQ Committee seems to be fairly busy at the moment with their outside lives so I can't tell you when it might be uploaded. Hopefully soon though! It will save you going through thousands of messages so I'd hold out. > It is my understanding that the people who are on each ship have the > same two people "paired together" based on their own preferences, > backed up by information given in the books. Is this correct? Yes. The H/H cruiseliner is a very fun and nice place to be -- may I reserve a comfortable stateroom aboard for you? > Is there a Lily/Snape ship? If so, how does one join it? This would definitely be a minority ship I think. Many people may subscribe to the view that Snape had a thing for Lily and while she might have returned his feelings (it's *possible,* although *weird* in my book) -- she clearly ended up with James Potter. The ships really focus more on pairings that involve 2 characters who are alive. :--) Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From voicelady at mymailstation.com Fri Mar 16 15:13:06 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 16 Mar 2001 07:13:06 -0800 Subject: Request for Penny Message-ID: <20010316151306.2513.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 16 15:28:52 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:28:52 -0000 Subject: Request for Penny In-Reply-To: <20010316151306.2513.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <98tbfk+73v9@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., voicelady at m... wrote: > Hey there - > > As April approaches, I have a small request. You *will* have Bryce post to the list when Baby Linsenmayer arrives, won't you, please? > > Jeralyn, the Voicelady > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Oh, obvious," said Granny. "I'll grant you it's > obvious. Trouble is, just because things are obvious > doesn't mean they're true." > Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _____________________________________________________________ > This email message was sent via MailStation(tm) - a trademark > of CIDCO Incorporated. I'll second that, Jeralyn! Yes, Penny, *please* do let us know! Peace & Plenty, Parker From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 15:58:56 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:58:56 -0000 Subject: And another... In-Reply-To: <98t1ba+9rqp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98td80+gnia@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote: > > N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: > > > > > > "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, > half-heartedly. > > Ouch! Love it! > > ;-) > Amy Me too! Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 16:02:09 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:02:09 -0000 Subject: Swifties! In-Reply-To: <98t8g8+o29s@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98tde1+gnj0@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., foxmoth at q... wrote: > At the faculty/alumni luncheon: > "I haven't eaten in over 500 years, " said Nick tastelessly. > "I'm very fond of Harry," Myrtle said, flushing. > "I don't care for toilet humor, " said Sir Patrick headlessly. > "Care for some tripe?" asked Minerva cattily. > "Certainly, it's so savory,"said Trelawney sibilantly > "I prefer stuffing," said Dumbledore sagely, > "The future looks grim," said Sirius blackly. > "Not like the good old days," said Lupin moonily. > "Several students have missed their exams," said Snape detestably. > "There's birds nesting in the chimneys," said Filch, changing the > subject swiftly. Now why didn't I think of blackly! Wotan From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 16:04:27 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:04:27 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] And another... References: <98srdr+te9m@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <008501c0ae32$c7c44360$6014a3d1@doreen> N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, half-heartedly. *gasp*!!! I could have missed this one .. and that would have been a shame! No mentions of TS in the subject line ... Btw ... how do you want this credited on the list? N.G.Productions or Naama? Doreen From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 16:03:38 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:03:38 -0000 Subject: A silly Tom Swiftie Message-ID: <98tdgq+neth@eGroups.com> " " said Hermione blankly. The first of many? Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 16:10:28 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:10:28 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98t0jk+s4v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98tdtk+r9e6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > This can't be the vaunted Times crossword--it seems way too easy! Or > do they get harder as the week goes on, as in the NY Times? I also > thought British crosswords were all cryptics (that's what we call the > ones with the puns and anagrams in the US). > No, that was the Times Two crossword. It used to be called the Quick Crossword, but I guess they got Image Consultants in who decided that the original name was too descriptive! *the* Times Crossword is indeed a cryptic one. It takes most people a while to complete (though I think the record is about seven minutes - I did it in ten minutes once, though normally nowhere near that!) The Competition ones are real swines. If you want an example I can post one. Wotan From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 16 16:14:44 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:14:44 -0000 Subject: HP Limerick In-Reply-To: <98s77b+hjjc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98te5k+l8qr@eGroups.com> Oh dear, the poetry wars are escalating: A callow young wiz from Caerphilly cast charms on a goat that were silly The MOM, in reaction declared an infraction so he traded his goat for a filly -Jim --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" wrote: > > (VERY OT here, but it's allowed... HA!) > > There once was a man with no shoes > Who couldn't stop singing the blues > One day in the rain > He felt a sharp pain > And he SCREAMED AND HE SCREAMED but nobody heard him, so he died > and was put on the news. From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 16:17:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:17:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP Haiku for a slow day (PG-13) References: <98t77q+f5d4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <009b01c0ae34$914f4e40$6014a3d1@doreen> WARNING: THIS HAIKU IS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Do not tell me, I am source of your "knock-up" The mud elephant wading through the sea leaves no tracks* ______________ *This was written before DNA testing. I thought the British term, "knock-up" meant "to wake up" ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From simon at hp.inbox.as Fri Mar 16 16:23:26 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98tdtk+r9e6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98telu+oqtt@eGroups.com> Wotan: "No, that was the Times Two crossword. It used to be called the Quick Crossword, but I guess they got Image Consultants in who decided that the original name was too descriptive! *the* Times Crossword is indeed a cryptic one. It takes most people a while to complete (though I think the record is about seven minutes - I did it in ten minutes once, though normally nowhere near that!) The Competition ones are real swines. If you want an example I can post one." Or you can find them online at: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/section/0,,211,00.html Simon From simon at hp.inbox.as Fri Mar 16 16:30:25 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:30:25 -0000 Subject: knock up (was Re: HP Haiku for a slow day (PG-13)) In-Reply-To: <009b01c0ae34$914f4e40$6014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98tf31+dff2@eGroups.com> Doreen: "I thought the British term, "knock-up" meant "to wake up" ?" That is one meaning, but there are plenty of others. As always I have taken the following from the OED. It is usful having such a resource at your finger tips. Defn. for Knock up: a. trans. To drive upwards, or fasten up, by knocking; spec. in Bookbinding, etc. to make even the edges of (a pile of loose sheets) by striking them on a table; in Bootmaking, to cut or flatten the edges of the upper after its attachment to the insole. b. intr. To be driven up so as to strike something. to knock up against, to come into collision with; fig. to meet with, come across, encounter. c. trans. To make up (hastily or off-hand), to arrange summarily. d. To put together hastily; = 16c. Also, to prepare (food) quickly (U.S.). e. To get or accumulate by labour or exertion; spec. in Cricket, to run up (a score), make (so many runs) by striking the ball. colloq. f. To arouse by knocking at the door. (This sense is not current in the U.S.) g. To overcome or make ill with fatigue; to exhaust, tire out. (Esp. in pass.) h. intr. To become exhausted or tired out; to become unserviceable; to break down. i. trans. To break up, destroy, put an end to. j. To make (a woman) pregnant; (less commonly) to have sexual intercourse with (a woman). slang (orig. U.S.). Defn. for knock-up: n. A practice or casual game at lawn tennis, squash rackets, etc. adj. Designating a knock-up: see above. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 16 16:53:38 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:53:38 -0000 Subject: Regional food, message for TEXANS In-Reply-To: <3AB226A7.1F29AC29@swbell.net> Message-ID: <98tgei+hr3o@eGroups.com> As a native-born Texan and sometime resident of California, New York, and now North Carolina, I can say that without a doubt the best Mexican restaurant in history was Manuel's Crispy Taco, on 2nd street in Odessa Texas. I say "was" advisedly, because although it's still open under the same name, it's not a shadow of what it was 30- something years ago :( The taco shells were "puffed" (how else can I describe them?); the hot sauce was *hot*; the taco meat was exquisitely spiced, with exactly the right amount of comino; the beans were refried nice and dry; and the Spanish rice set a standard that has never been equaled. Oh, and you could order hot, steamed corn tortillas with butter, yum! Nostalgically, Jim. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > While I have had very good Mexican food in New Mexico, Colorado & > Arizona -- it's a different style than Tex-Mex. I think Tex-Mex > may be quite unique. I'm with Amanda though -- if you want the > *best* Mexican food, you need to come to Texas! From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 18:03:36 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:03:36 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98telu+oqtt@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98tkho+f9it@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > Or you can find them online at: > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/section/0,,211,00.html > > Simon Simon - if you can use that dictionary of yours (the full OED?) and tell me what the answer to 19 across is, I'd be grateful! It's annoying me. Is the OED is available online or on CDROM these days? Anybody created an HP cryptic crossword? Wotan From naama_gat at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 19:09:58 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:09:58 -0000 Subject: And another... In-Reply-To: <008501c0ae32$c7c44360$6014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98toe6+ijcn@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: > > "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, half-heartedly. > > *gasp*!!! I could have missed this one .. and that would have been a shame! > No mentions of TS in the subject line ... > > Btw ... how do you want this credited on the list? N.G.Productions or Naama? > > Doreen Sorry, I'll be a good girl next time...And I prefer being referred to as Naama. Thanks. Naama From rosewoof at earthlink.net Fri Mar 16 19:25:10 2001 From: rosewoof at earthlink.net (Rose Woofenden) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:25:10 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: SHIP information request Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010316192510.006bb620@earthlink.net> Penny said: >Yes. The H/H cruiseliner is a very fun and nice place to be -- may I >reserve a comfortable stateroom aboard for you? Ok, I'm a little confused here. Is this just a fun way to talk about what ship you support, or are there actually ship lists for the various shippers? Like a place where people who like a ship can get together and talk about that ship etc? You'll be happy to know that I'm a very strong H/H ship.... H/H make to most sense. They are perfect for each other! :-) -Rose "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ~Aristotle From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 16 17:14:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:14:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: SHIP information request References: <026001c0adfb$641ea3a0$6914a3d1@doreen> <3AB2287F.40A2FD3D@swbell.net> Message-ID: <00e701c0ae53$b6101600$6014a3d1@doreen> Yes. The H/H cruiseliner is a very fun and nice place to be -- may I reserve a comfortable stateroom aboard for you? Thank you so much for the guiding info ... I will read it before making up my mind. I have not decided whether I even want to do this ... and you are enticing me with a comfortable stateroom? I wonder what other ships have to offer? J/K ... H/H is Harry/Hermione, correct; not Harry/Hagrid nor Hagrid/Hermione? Doreen, grabbing a life preserver, in the fear of being tossed overboard after her last comment, and also wondering if there is a Snape/Trelawny ship? How much canon does one need to back up a ship choice? Is the fact that both characters are alive and in the books enough? I am guessing that ship conversation is based on character interactions from what I have read so far. Yes, I have read them ... you ships eventually grow on people. (even those who started out thinking all those ship posts were annoying) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bbennett at joymail.com Fri Mar 16 20:41:40 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:41:40 -0000 Subject: SHIP information request In-Reply-To: <00e701c0ae53$b6101600$6014a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <98ttq4+3uiq@eGroups.com> Penny wrote: > Yes. The H/H cruiseliner is a very fun and nice place to be -- may >I reserve a comfortable stateroom aboard for you? The Good Ship R/H is also comfortable and fun, and the Good Will Embassador makes a mean chocolate chip cookie. We dock frequently to take on new passengers - you're welcome to take a tour before you commit to a cruise . > H/H is Harry/Hermione, correct; not Harry/Hagrid nor Hagrid/Hermione? It's Harry/Hermione unless you ask Simon, and then it's Harry/Hedwig. ;*) B From simon at hp.inbox.as Fri Mar 16 20:41:50 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:41:50 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98tkho+f9it@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ttqe+dfnq@eGroups.com> Wotan: "Simon - if you can use that dictionary of yours (the full OED?) and tell me what the answer to 19 across is, I'd be grateful! It's annoying me. Is the OED is available online or on CDROM these days?" The OED is online, but you have to subscribe at some rather large cost. I get free access as my uni is subscribed. I think it costs several hundred pounds a year to be subscribed. Are you asking about today's 19 across, or a previous one? And in the main or times two crossword? Simon From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 16 20:42:31 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:42:31 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Crossword answers ... and the London HPfGU meeting References: <98t0o8+k8dp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB27AB7.E2242606@texas.net> naama_gat at hotmail.com wrote: > And I thought that living is Israel stinks because of the Intifada, > terrorism, right wing politics, the heat, water pollution. Well, I'll step up and let you know that living in Texas stinks during the summer, which is nine months long, because of the heat. --Amanda, born here, did not choose to live here, thus can bitch freely -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 16 20:55:25 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:55:25 -0600 Subject: PENNY, DON'T READ THIS Message-ID: <3AB27DBD.CCC2A0E2@texas.net> I mean it, delete it now, don't read down. D O N 'T R E A D T H I S . . . . People interested in participating in a "words of wisdom, advice, & counsel" to the new mom" book for Penny, please email me on a private post for details. We gotta get rolling if we want to get anything to her pre-baby. --Amanda From ebonyink at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 21:32:32 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:32:32 -0000 Subject: SHIP information request In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.20010316192510.006bb620@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <98u0pg+jmsu@eGroups.com> Penny wrote: "Yes. The H/H cruiseliner is a very fun and nice place to be -- may I reserve a comfortable stateroom aboard for you? " And Rose replied: "Ok, I'm a little confused here. Is this just a fun way to talk about what ship you support, or are there actually ship lists for the various shippers? Like a place where people who like a ship can get together and talk about that ship etc?" There are many lists and websites for various ships and slash pairings. A very good one for supporters of Ron/Hermione and by extension Harry/Ginny is www.sugarquill.com... I visit and lurk often! Slash lists include the hpslash and harrypotterslash egroups. I lurk on both of those lists as well, although I'm not really a slasher per se. Since I've decided to no longer talk ship over on the HP4GU main list until something new and interesting arises (i.e., book, movie, new member posts a theory not covered in the FAQ), I've thought about starting a website for grownup H/H shippers with message boards, fanfic recommends, canon evidence, etc. But I barely have the time and energy to read and be active with the 16 HP lists I'm subbed to, much less start a new venture. Wish someone else would do it, though. > You'll be happy to know that I'm a very strong H/H ship.... H/H make the most sense. They are perfect for each other! :-) > Yes, of course they are. And forgive me for automatically assuming that you're referring to Harry and Hermione. Honestly, what other H/H ship is there? ;-) Hugs and cookies and shoes to Simon (Hedwig's an Animagus, really!) nd my no-ship buddies... you *know* I couldn't resist! --Ebony From simon at hp.inbox.as Fri Mar 16 21:51:08 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:51:08 -0000 Subject: SHIP information request In-Reply-To: <98u0pg+jmsu@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u1sc+1m76@eGroups.com> Ebony: "Hugs and cookies and shoes to Simon (Hedwig's an Animagus, really!) and my no-ship buddies... you *know* I couldn't resist!" Thanks. Needed some food (as it happens one of my friends is bringing me some chocie chip cookies in a moments, if only I hadn't broken my tooth earlier they might be easier to eat). Simon (off to watch some more tele, drink tea, eat cookies and talk) From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 21:51:21 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:51:21 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] reminds me of{knock up (was Re: HP Haiku for a slow day (PG-13))} References: <98tf31+dff2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <01eb01c0ae63$3dd776a0$10ccfea9@computer> Our chat room discussions. Perhaps to clarify things ahead of time, we should define "Bonk?" Grins... When I state I am bonking Neil or Simon, I mean on the head with a pillow. :) Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pigwidgeon" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] knock up (was Re: HP Haiku for a slow day (PG-13)) > Doreen: "I thought the British term, "knock-up" meant "to wake up" ?" > > That is one meaning, but there are plenty of others. As always I have > taken the following from the OED. It is usful having such a resource > at your finger tips. > > > Defn. for Knock up: > a. trans. To drive upwards, or fasten up, by knocking; spec. in > Bookbinding, etc. to make even the edges of (a pile of loose sheets) > by striking them on a table; in Bootmaking, to cut or flatten the > edges of the upper after its attachment to the insole. > > b. intr. To be driven up so as to strike something. to knock up > against, to come into collision with; fig. to meet with, come across, > encounter. > > c. trans. To make up (hastily or off-hand), to arrange summarily. > > d. To put together hastily; = 16c. Also, to prepare (food) quickly > (U.S.). > > e. To get or accumulate by labour or exertion; spec. in Cricket, to > run up (a score), make (so many runs) by striking the ball. colloq. > > f. To arouse by knocking at the door. (This sense is not current in > the U.S.) > > g. To overcome or make ill with fatigue; to exhaust, tire out. (Esp. > in pass.) > > h. intr. To become exhausted or tired out; to become unserviceable; > to break down. > > i. trans. To break up, destroy, put an end to. > > j. To make (a woman) pregnant; (less commonly) to have sexual > intercourse with (a woman). slang (orig. U.S.). > > > > Defn. for knock-up: > n. A practice or casual game at lawn tennis, squash rackets, etc. > > adj. Designating a knock-up: see above. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Mar 16 21:39:11 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:39:11 -0600 Subject: Regional food, message for TEXANS References: <98tgei+hr3o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB287FF.CAD1CC43@swbell.net> Hi there -- Jim Flanagan wrote: > As a native-born Texan and sometime resident of California, New York, > and now North Carolina, I can say that without a doubt the best > Mexican restaurant in history was Manuel's Crispy Taco, on 2nd street > in Odessa Texas. I say "was" advisedly, because although it's still > open under the same name, it's not a shadow of what it was 30- > something years ago :( In case ya'll didn't know, we have, strangely enough, 2 moderators who were both born in this Godforsaken-middle-of-nowhere-in-West-Texas town (known by my husband as Slow-Deatha if that tells you anyway). I was *raised* on Manuel's Mexican food every weekend, and I can even remember what it was like 30 years ago, Jim! I wasn't yet in school of course. But, I remember it all the same. And, I agree with Jim's assessment: it was fabulous. Was is the correct term too, sadly. My parents haven't been there in probably 10 years. > The taco shells were "puffed" (how else can I describe them?); the > hot sauce was *hot*; the taco meat was exquisitely spiced, with > exactly the right amount of comino; the beans were refried nice and > dry; and the Spanish rice set a standard that has never been equaled. > Oh, and you could order hot, steamed corn tortillas with butter, yum! The hot sauce was perfect .... I've never found anything else to match it. A puffed taco shell covered in chili con queso ..... YUM! The enchilada sauce also sticks out in my mind as being quite excellent. As far as fast-food Mexican goes, Taco Villa (a West Texas chain) has never been equaled. Do you agree or disagree with that assessment Jim? :--) Penny (who's going to have to persuade Bryce to go out for Mexican tonight after all this talk!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naama_gat at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 22:12:35 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:12:35 -0000 Subject: And another... In-Reply-To: <98td80+gnia@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u34j+4ljg@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote: > > > N.G. Productions are proud to present their first TS: > > > > > > > > > "What happens when people are splynched?" asked Harry, > > half-heartedly. > > > > Ouch! Love it! > > > > ;-) > > Amy > > Me too! > > Wotan Gee thanks guys! . The thing is, now I've started I can't stop: "Oh... dear...., Ron's... hex... baaackfiiiiireedddd...." said Harry, sluggishly. "What's that dragon doing to Harry?", fumed Ron. And a twisted double one: "What's that dragon doing to Harry?", fumed Ron. "What an odd choice of adjective", thought Hermione, swiftily. Naama, who used to be respectable once... From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Fri Mar 16 22:49:35 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:49:35 -0000 Subject: And another...[Groaner Alert] In-Reply-To: <98u34j+4ljg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u59v+boau@eGroups.com> "Hey big boy, wanna go up to my place and do something...off-topic?" asked the lady, chatterly. From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 23:01:43 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:01:43 -0000 Subject: And another...[Groaner Alert] In-Reply-To: <98u59v+boau@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u60n+ppbo@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > "Hey big boy, wanna go up to my place and do something...off- topic?" > asked the lady, chatterly. Bleuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh :)) And of course, it has to be our favourite gamekeeper! From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 23:27:45 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:27:45 -0000 Subject: Expanding horizons Message-ID: <98u7hh+5e72@eGroups.com> Thanks to the folks on this list who suggested Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie for various movie roles. I was inspired to rent the first episode of Jeeves & Wooster and it was very funny. Also, whoever's doing Harry's hair for the movie should take a look at Bertie's 'do after a late night out, IMO. Ditto to the many who answered someone's "what else should I read" question with _Tuck Everlasting_ and/or _The Dark is Rising_. I just read the former, loved it, and am now listening to the latter on a very good production (Alex Jennings reading). I am loving it even more than _TE_. Ah, Harry Potter, ever expanding my cultural horizons. Amy Z -------------------------------------------- "Winky is having trouble adjusting, Harry Potter," squeaked Dobby confidentially. -HP and the Goblet of Fire -------------------------------------------- From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 23:35:24 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:35:24 -0000 Subject: Request for Penny In-Reply-To: <98tbfk+73v9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u7vs+uqqa@eGroups.com> Jeralyn: > > As April approaches, I have a small request. You *will* have Bryce > post to the list when Baby Linsenmayer arrives, won't you, please? Parker: > > I'll second that, Jeralyn! > > Yes, Penny, *please* do let us know! > Okay, everyone, time to start the name pool. Get your bets in now for: (girl) Lily Cho Linsenmayer Hermione Jo Linsenmayer Minerva Sibyl Linsenmayer (boy) Harry Albus Linsenmayer Ronald Draco Linsenmayer (nice combo, don't you think?) Aberforth Argus Linsenmayer (Puts serious face back on) Do make sure to let us know the news, Penny. We'll be thinking of you and sending long-distance Easy Labor Charms your way. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 23:41:20 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:41:20 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98tkho+f9it@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98u8b0+ajmf@eGroups.com> Wotan asked: > Anybody created an HP cryptic crossword? I could give it a shot. I invent cryptics; or rather, I did until HP became my sole hobby. Don't hold your breath, but maybe I'll act on this sooner or later. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 16 23:47:26 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:47:26 -0000 Subject: words to know In-Reply-To: <01eb01c0ae63$3dd776a0$10ccfea9@computer> Message-ID: <98u8me+phoe@eGroups.com> Dee wrote: > Our chat room discussions. Perhaps to clarify things ahead of time, we > should define "Bonk?" > > Grins... > > When I state I am bonking Neil or Simon, I mean on the head with a pillow. > Good thing you clarified that, Dee. I'd have thought it was a sentence commonly followed by "and will soon be knocked up." While we're at it, would someone define schnoogle for me? I think of it as a kind of kiss where you bury your head in someone's neck and rub with your nose as you kiss them loudly. Hence a combined kiss/hug/snuggle/tickle. Amy who never even HEARD of shnoogles before joining this list! those horizons just keep on expanding! From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 00:33:09 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:33:09 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98ttqe+dfnq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ubc5+ftlu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > Are you asking about today's 19 across, or a previous one? And in the > main or times two crossword? > > Simon 19a for Friday 16 March, the main crossword. Clue was 'Fish caught by chance, once'. Four letters. Second letter 'h', last letter 'p'. I managed to find the OED site .. CD-ROM doesn't look too expensive, though it's one of those annoying jobs where you have to have the CD in the drive to run the program. Still, I imagine there are ways around that. I nearly bought the hardcopy version once, but realised I'd have to have the floor strengthened before I could put it anywhere! CD makes much more sense. Wotan. From moongirlk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 00:43:03 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:43:03 -0000 Subject: rambling thoughts on pacifism In-Reply-To: <98t7eb+i8i6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ubun+qv1n@eGroups.com> As I'm the one who got this ball rolling, and some of the comments have been in my general direction, I spent the afternoon considering the situation and trying to come to a fuller understanding of what I feel and why I feel that way, so I can explain my position. First though, I want to respond to a few things that I think are important. Naama said: <> The thing is, AK is an unforgivable curse because of it's effect, not because it's called AK, involves green light or is difficult to master. Avada Kedavra may be the only one we know that's called the killing curse, but a rose by any other name... For example, say a wizard tortured another non-magically, instead of using Crucio. Would it be any less wrong? Would it merit less severe punishment in the eyes of the law? In my eyes AK is not so much the issue. It's the killing that's the issue. Naama again: <> I'm not taking offense, as I'm sure that wasn't meant toward Scott and I directly, but I just wanted to mention that there are almost *always* other options that do not involve the ending of someone's life. I confess, as I did before, that I have not come to a complete understanding of the issue, nor are my views set in stone. If I ever have children, I may change my mind completely, but as it stands now, my answer to your question would be yes. I would really not kill any enemy that threatened my life and the life of my family or friends. I might jump on their back and stick a handy wand-like object up their nose, or any of dozens of other possibilities, but I would not purposely and knowingly kill them. I'm not sure what is irresponsible or unrealistic about that. Amy said: <> I think you're right, Amy. The reason I can't say definatively what I think is that I haven't taken the time to do the soul-searching and make the considered decision. I'm really starting to think that's the easy way. Not choosing. It means that if I were in the situation, and did kill someone, I could console myself with society's view that killing is ok under the right circumstances, and if I *didn't* kill, and there were really bad consequences, I could console myself the other way. I really admire those who know their hearts and have made the decision. I don't think that anyone who takes that time to do the soul-searching and make a considered decision ahead of time is taking the easy way out. I still don't know how I'll come out of this, but I am learning more about who I am and what I expect of myself while I struggle with the concept. What I mentioned on the main list I really do believe applies here. The choice to use evil to achieve good ends is both a slippery slope (who defines the good ends? good for whom? when is it ok and when is it not? where's the line?), and often an easy fix for personal, societal and global problems. I think it's far easier to say 'it's ok to kill someone as long as it meets X criteria (it's self-defense, it's for the greater good, whatever)' than it is to say 'it's not ok to kill, but something has to be done. How do we handle this situation?'. As I've been considering this, I started thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people that the US killed off-hand with a couple of bombs in Japan. I don't think anyone really expected it to come to that, but it started long before anyone had ever heard of Japan or the US. I know it's silly, but maybe it started with the concept of self-defense. Maybe one caveman came at another caveman in a threatening manner, and caveman #2 decided to protect himself and/or his family by killing. From there maybe the first caveman's family or pack or whatever came after that of the second, and war was created, who knows? One way or another, the concept of war and the decision to kill in order to win a war came about, and somehow both sides in any war feel justified in killing. First it was nothing but fists and feet and maybe rocks and sticks. From there weapons were invented that allowed killing to become easier, then more efficient, and then less personal, and then... Once neuclear weapons were concieved of, a step was taken and they were developed. Once they were developed, it was not that big of a step to test them, and find out exactly what they could do. Once that was known chests were thumped and threats were made, to show the world that 'we mean business' so you'd better not mess with us. Even then, it might seem inconceiveable that they were ever put to use, but they were. I know that simplifies the whole of human history, but in all honesty, I can't justify to myself the taking of one human life without it making it a little bit more okay for things like Hiroshima and Nagasaki to have happened, and to continue happening. That's my very subjective reasoning for myself, and is not meant to apply to anyone outside of my little corner in my little chair. I haven't yet dealt with how it all fits together, or how the idea of euthanasia comes into it, or probably a million other things, but it's a start for me. kimberly Sorry that my first post on OT is such a downer From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 00:57:56 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:57:56 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98ubc5+ftlu@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ucqk+ufah@eGroups.com> Wotan wrote: > 19a for Friday 16 March, the main crossword. Clue was 'Fish caught by > chance, once'. Four letters. Second letter 'h', last letter 'p'. Please, whenever the answer is published, post it. I could go crazy trying to figure this one out. I keep thinking "chip" but I can't make it work logically. Isn't there a Ruth Rendell story about someone who invents cryptic clues in his head all the time, who goes slowly mad (as 90% of her characters do)? Amy Z From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 17 01:12:33 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:12:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Stouffer's name (was Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: J.K.Rowling & The Legend of Rah and the Muggles (rambly)) In-Reply-To: <98uca4+euep@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 find_sam at hotmail.com wrote (in HPFGU, but this seemed offtopicy, so I've moved it here): > Nancy Stouffer (which, if I'm pronouncing it correctly, sounds > amusingly like Stuff Her) How do you pronounce her name? I'd assumed it was Stoh-fer, like the frozen food products... hey, maybe she should sue them, too? They've stolen her name! *g* --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 01:56:44 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:56:44 -0000 Subject: Crossword answers In-Reply-To: <98ucqk+ufah@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ug8s+140e@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Wotan wrote: > > > 19a for Friday 16 March, the main crossword. Clue was 'Fish caught > by > > chance, once'. Four letters. Second letter 'h', last letter 'p'. > > Please, whenever the answer is published, post it. I could go crazy > trying to figure this one out. I keep thinking "chip" but I can't > make it work logically. > > Isn't there a Ruth Rendell story about someone who invents cryptic > clues in his head all the time, who goes slowly mad (as 90% of her > characters do)? > > Amy Z I keep thinking it must be "chap", but I can't work fish into it! Wotan From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 02:08:36 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 02:08:36 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98ug8s+140e@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98ugv4+lgqv@eGroups.com> The The Problem: > > > 19a for Friday 16 March, the main crossword. Clue was 'Fish > caught > > by > > > chance, once'. Four letters. Second letter 'h', last letter 'p'. Wotan: > I keep thinking it must be "chap", but I can't work fish into it! > Hey, crosswords by teamwork--this is great. Here are my thoughts on "chap": "Hap" can be either "chance" or "chance, once" (i.e. "archaic word for chance.") I think "c" for "caught" is weak, unless I'm missing something...I'm used to the ones in Games magazine; every editor has his/her own standards. But in any case, is there a fish called a "chap"? Not in my dictionary... Amy Z "Hey, it's called OT for a reason!" From pennylin at swbell.net Sat Mar 17 02:15:28 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:15:28 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Request for Penny References: <98u7vs+uqqa@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB2C8C0.F0D4F0A7@swbell.net> Hi -- > Jeralyn: > > > > As April approaches, I have a small request. You *will* have > Bryce post to the list when Baby Linsenmayer arrives, won't you, > please? > Oh, of course! I'll be sure somebody gets it posted. Thanks for asking! > Amy Z: Okay, everyone, time to start the name pool. Get your bets in > now for: > > (girl) > Lily Cho Linsenmayer > Hermione Jo Linsenmayer > Minerva Sibyl Linsenmayer > > (boy) > Harry Albus Linsenmayer > Ronald Draco Linsenmayer (nice combo, don't you think?) > Aberforth Argus Linsenmayer Oh my! I'm not sure my husband is going for *any* of these choices. As much as I like Hermione the character, I'm probably not going to saddle my daughter with a name that no one can pronounce. And, Cho? You really think the Captain of the H/H cruiseliner would name her daughter Cho? Actually, if it's a boy (it's *supposed* to be a girl according to the ultrasound), his name will be David Harry (both family names). Guess what his mommy will call him? Bryce is only mildly disgruntled since we think it's a girl. > (Puts serious face back on) Do make sure to let us know the news, > Penny. We'll be thinking of you and sending long-distance Easy Labor > Charms your way. I could definitely use those Easy Labor Charms -- send 'em on! 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I believe that I am in some sense a pacifist, but I don't want to be stuck with that -ism, and not have my on views and opinions regardless of how they stack up against pacisfism. I, like Amy (?) have a deep belief that no one is completely beyond the point of change. It seems to me that we are born with as much potential for good as for evil. That's why I love HP so much because it's about free will and Harry has to make decisions that can change his life. BUT it's those decisions that determine who he is. Naama said: "First, I don't think there is any questin that Harry will use AK to kill Voldemort. It's an Unforgivable curse, and from the disapproving way that Sirius said that Crouch allowed using legitimate way to fight evil - at least by Sirius and probably by all the "really good" guys (Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin, James, Lily, .. etc.). If Harry somehow gets to learn how to use the curse, the only reason I can see for it to happen, is to show him *not* using an Unforgivable curse, no matter what the stakes are. BUT, that's not to say that he will not destroy Voldy by other means, that are considered legitimate. But then, unlike Kimberley and Scot, I do not have a problem with killing in self defense." --If I were ever in such a position I don't really know what I would do. I think it's something that we can only speculate on, and pray that we never have to make such a choice. Kimberly "I'm not taking offense, as I'm sure that wasn't meant toward Scott and I directly, but I just wanted to mention that there are almost *always* other options that do not involve the ending of someone's life. I confess, as I did before, that I have not come to a complete understanding of the issue, nor are my views set in stone. If I ever have children, I may change my mind completely, but as it stands now, my answer to your question would be yes. I would really not kill any enemy that threatened my life and the life of my family or friends. I might jump on their back and stick a handy wand-like object up their nose, or any of dozens of other possibilities, but I would not purposely and knowingly kill them. I'm not sure what is irresponsible or unrealistic about that." --I agree with you Kimberly. My views are not "this is true, this is what I believe" in this case. I am open and certainly by no means am I saying that I think one way is right. But I can take the idea seriously, and I do. Amy said: "I just want to note that most of the pacifists I've known, whether in person or through their writings, far from operating from a fear of mistakes, do look reality in the face and are making extremely brave and difficult choices." Kimberly responded: "I think you're right, Amy. The reason I can't say definatively what I think is that I haven't taken the time to do the soul-searching and make the considered decision. I'm really starting to think that's the easy way. Not choosing. It means that if I were in the situation, and did kill someone, I could console myself with society's view that killing is ok under the right circumstances, and if I *didn't* kill, and there were really bad consequences, I could console myself the other way. I really admire those who know their hearts and have made the decision. I don't think that anyone who takes that time to do the soul-searching and make a considered decision ahead of time is taking the easy way out. I still don't know how I'll come out of this, but I am learning more about who I am and what I expect of myself while I struggle with the concept." --I agree. I don't think there are or should be any easy answers. I need more time to consider this in light of my own life, and experiences. "Sorry that my first post on OT is such a downer" --Not at all. Thanks for raising such interesting thoughts. Scott From Schlobin at aol.com Sat Mar 17 04:29:07 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:29:07 -0000 Subject: Favorite Fictional/Historical Couples In-Reply-To: <3A8F3FC4.1F748F52@texas.net> Message-ID: <98up6j+aotu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Abelard and Heloise. > > --Amanda > Okay, I'm six months behind (or so it seems) but I was just about to say Heloise and Abelard...among others...stay tuned... Susan From Schlobin at aol.com Sat Mar 17 04:41:14 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:41:14 -0000 Subject: Favorite Fictional/Historical Couples In-Reply-To: <035001c0991e$0af6f800$acc506d5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <98upta+10ebm@eGroups.com> Goodness gracious me! You all are used to my disjointed responses...so here it goes... Our daughter Eleanor is named after Eleanor of Acquitaine and Eleanor Roosevelt. So I would suggest Henry II and Eleanor of Acquitaine.... I know who Simon De Montfort is, but I must now buy every single book about all the Eleanors..please post more specifics Marguerite St. Just and Percy Blakney Sherlock Holmes and Irene Adler Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson Romaine Brooks and Natalie Barney Phyliss Lyon and Del Martin Zeus and Ganymede Marilla Cuthbert and (John?) Blythe Regis Hastur and Danilo Syrtis Jaelle and Margali; Camilla and Margali Stay tuned.. Susan From Schlobin at aol.com Sat Mar 17 04:58:57 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:58:57 -0000 Subject: OT even for here [Fwd: The "Number" of the Beast...] In-Reply-To: <3AA81907.D375FE0D@texas.net> Message-ID: <98uquh+hgp0@eGroups.com> Sigh, and I thought this was the place we would discuss Heinlein's novel The Number of the Beast... Oh, well,, Susan From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 17 05:05:18 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:05:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: OT even for here [Fwd: The "Number" of the Beast...] In-Reply-To: <98uquh+hgp0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 Schlobin at aol.com wrote: > Sigh, and I thought this was the place we would discuss > Heinlein's novel The Number of the Beast... > > Oh, well,, > Susan You know, that's the same thing I thought when I saw that subject heading?... --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From Schlobin at aol.com Sat Mar 17 05:12:27 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:12:27 -0000 Subject: Magic, Kids, and Detroit--long anecdote In-Reply-To: <98b0kr+r27i@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98urnr+6ud9@eGroups.com> Ebony, Thank you so much for the wonderful gift -- your post --- I think every member of this list (all of us who believe in magic of all kinds)celebrates you and what you are doing Susan From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 05:14:12 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:14:12 -0500 Subject: Camilla References: <98upta+10ebm@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <0ac401c0aea1$1aebc2c0$10ccfea9@computer> I saw this list, and thought you were giving Penny baby names. If I am wrong, then do forgive me. I do not recommend this particular one. LeFay is a great author, but I don't think the girl with the name will appreciate the references behind it! Grins. Would be like naming a child Sappho. Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Favorite Fictional/Historical Couples > Goodness gracious me! > You all are used to my disjointed responses...so here it goes... > > > Our daughter Eleanor is named after Eleanor of Acquitaine and Eleanor > Roosevelt. > > So I would suggest Henry II and Eleanor of Acquitaine.... > > I know who Simon De Montfort is, but I must now buy every single book > about all the Eleanors..please post more specifics > > Marguerite St. Just and Percy Blakney > > Sherlock Holmes and Irene Adler > Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson > > Romaine Brooks and Natalie Barney > Phyliss Lyon and Del Martin > Zeus and Ganymede > > Marilla Cuthbert and (John?) Blythe > > Regis Hastur and Danilo Syrtis > Jaelle and Margali; > Camilla and Margali > > Stay tuned.. > > Susan > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From fmu30c at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 11:09:07 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 03:09:07 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Swifties! References: <98t8g8+o29s@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <004b01c0aed2$b0f0a520$2af6e83f@rena> > "I'm very fond of Harry," Myrtle said, flushing. I was *rofl* over this one. Found it very appropriate for someone who haunts a bathroom *l* Rena -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 11:44:11 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:44:11 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98ugv4+lgqv@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98vimb+5g1j@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > The > The Problem: > > > > > 19a for Friday 16 March, the main crossword. Clue was 'Fish > > caught > > > by > > > > chance, once'. Four letters. Second letter 'h', last letter 'p'. > > Wotan: > > > I keep thinking it must be "chap", but I can't work fish into it! > > > > Hey, crosswords by teamwork--this is great. Here are my thoughts on > "chap": > > "Hap" can be either "chance" or "chance, once" (i.e. "archaic word for > chance.") I think "c" for "caught" is weak, unless I'm missing > something...I'm used to the ones in Games magazine; every editor has > his/her own standards. But in any case, is there a fish called a > "chap"? Not in my dictionary... > > Amy Z > "Hey, it's called OT for a reason!" Yes, my reasoning for chap was just that. And likewise I can't find any fish (noun or verb?) remotely connected with chap. But, from this morning's paper, the answer is indeed chap! We need Simon and his access to the full OED. 'c' for caught is both normal and okay - it's used as an abbreviation for caught on cricket scoreboards. I expect you knew that ;) Friday is usually one of the easier puzzles. Tuesday's always seems the hardest to me, but maybe that's just when my brain is at its lowest ebb - weekend euphoria worn off, Friday nowhere in sight. Okay, onto todays puzzle! Wotan. From fmu30c at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 12:13:26 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:13:26 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Request for Penny References: <98u7vs+uqqa@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <010301c0aedb$aca8fa40$2af6e83f@rena> (Puts serious face back on) Do make sure to let us know the news, Penny. We'll be thinking of you and sending long-distance Easy Labor Charms your way. --- *g* too bad these little ones don't know how to apparate. Would make my life a lot easier -- or quite stressful come to think of it. All the best wishes for you Penny Rena -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmu30c at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 12:28:28 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:28:28 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] PENNY, DON'T READ THIS References: <3AB27DBD.CCC2A0E2@texas.net> Message-ID: <01ba01c0aee0$b1bc7840$2af6e83f@rena> I mean it, delete it now, don't read down. D O N 'T R E A D T H I S . . . . People interested in participating in a "words of wisdom, advice, & counsel" to the new mom" book for Penny, please email me on a private post for details. We gotta get rolling if we want to get anything to her pre-baby. --Amanda I'm interested, but I don't have your email address to send this to you privately. Sorry. 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This is not a compliment to either party -- it wasn't one of Heinlein's better efforts. -Jim --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > Sigh, and I thought this was the place we would discuss > Heinlein's novel The Number of the Beast... > > Oh, well,, > Susan From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 14:05:23 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:05:23 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98vimb+5g1j@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98vqv3+gqig@eGroups.com> Wotan wrote: And likewise I can't find > any fish (noun or verb?) remotely connected with chap. But, from this > morning's paper, the answer is indeed chap! We need Simon and his > access to the full OED. 'c' for caught is both normal and okay - it's > used as an abbreviation for caught on cricket scoreboards. I expect > you knew that ;) Ahhhh! Not up on my cricket lingo. It is the abbreviation for catcher in baseball, however. The best crosswords are incomprehensible to someone from another culture! Maybe I won't check out the Times site after all. US puzzles are hard enough. Amy Z From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 14:46:36 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:46:36 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98vqv3+gqig@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <98vtcc+a4i2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Ahhhh! Not up on my cricket lingo. It is the abbreviation for > catcher in baseball, however. The best crosswords are > incomprehensible to someone from another culture! Maybe I won't check > out the Times site after all. US puzzles are hard enough. > > Amy Z You could probably do most of it - there's a couple (in Friday's puzzle) where being English would help and that's probably true of most days. Oddly enough there were no references to American states - there's usually one or two. It helps to know all the states and their two-letter abbreviations! Started to fill in a grid for an HP puzzle - got stuck after half-a- dozen words! Wotan She may change (3) :)) From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 17 15:59:22 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:59:22 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98vqv3+gqig@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9901kq+akm6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Wotan wrote: > > And likewise I can't find > > any fish (noun or verb?) remotely connected with chap. But, from > this > > morning's paper, the answer is indeed chap! We need Simon and his > > access to the full OED. Best I can do relating chap to fish is fissure... {OED}: 1. An open fissure or crack in a surface, made by chopping or splitting. b. esp. A painful fissure or crack in the skin, descending to the flesh: chiefly caused by exposure of hands, lips, etc., to frost or cold wind. c. fig. << Happy St. Patricks Day -Ben. From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:43:36 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:43:36 -0000 Subject: Double Tom Swiftie Message-ID: <99047o+t8rv@eGroups.com> "Buckbeak won't throw me will he?" asked Hermione shyly. "You can put your arms around me," said Harry touchingly. Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:45:51 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:45:51 -0000 Subject: More Tom Swifties Message-ID: <9904bv+q34t@eGroups.com> "We need an army," said Dumbledore forcefully. "Fred! Not Dungbombs," Hermione said sniffily. "What do Veela want?" asked Ron manfully. "Let that be a lesson Aunt Marge," Harry said expansively. And another silly one - "R olev gsvn ylgs," said Hermione cryptically. Wotan From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sat Mar 17 16:48:57 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:48:57 -0000 Subject: British -> American "Translation", Please Message-ID: <9904hp+b4r0@eGroups.com> I'm confused by the British use of the adjective "bemused," as it is used to describe a person's facial expression or overall attitude. I suspect that most Americans (at least those without a degree in English) would take this to mean "slightly amused," or perhaps "self-satisfied." However, after encountering forms of the word several times in the HP books, as well as in CS Lewis, it appears, contextually, to mean a "passive" or "spaced-out" expression or attitude. I don't have the OED-online, so can someone clue me in on the British understanding of "bemused?" -Jim From john at walton.to Sat Mar 17 17:05:17 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:05:17 +0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] British -> American "Translation", Please In-Reply-To: <9904hp+b4r0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Jim Flanagan wrote: > I'm confused by the British use of the adjective "bemused," > as it is used to describe a person's facial expression or > overall attitude. I suspect that most Americans (at least those > without a degree in English) would take this to mean "slightly > amused," or perhaps "self-satisfied." > > However, after encountering forms of the word several times in the HP > books, as well as in CS Lewis, it appears, contextually, to > mean a "passive" or "spaced-out" expression or attitude. > > I don't have the OED-online, so can someone clue me in on the British > understanding of "bemused?" > > -Jim Bemuse means "stupefy, make (person) confused". A person can also be said to be bemused if this has happened to them. The difference between being bemused and confused is that bemuse has a nuance of amusement with it. --John, hoping that helps ____________________________________________ *"Quidditch Through The Ages" by Kennilworthy Whisp: 14 Sickles 3 Knuts *New Firebolt Broom: just over 100 Galleons *Watching Draco Malfoy being bounced up and down after being turned into a ferret: Priceless The best things in life are free. For everything else, there's Harry Potter. John Walton -- john at walton.to ____________________________________________ From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 17:11:37 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:11:37 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] British -> American "Translation", Please References: <9904hp+b4r0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001c01c0af05$56554520$0a14a3d1@doreen> Jim I am not British, but my dictionary says it means, 1. to make confused; bewilder 2. to occupy the attention of; absorb That is pretty much what I have always thought it meant ... like to be lost in thought. Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Flanagan" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] British -> American "Translation", Please I'm confused by the British use of the adjective "bemused," as it is used to describe a person's facial expression or overall attitude. I suspect that most Americans (at least those without a degree in English) would take this to mean "slightly amused," or perhaps "self-satisfied." However, after encountering forms of the word several times in the HP books, as well as in CS Lewis, it appears, contextually, to mean a "passive" or "spaced-out" expression or attitude. I don't have the OED-online, so can someone clue me in on the British understanding of "bemused?" -Jim To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 17 17:25:13 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:25:13 -0000 Subject: NOthing (was: British Food Question In-Reply-To: <98t3s5+5lqq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9906lp+o8au@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Basically, you "suck it and see": you suck the sherbet through the > hollow liquorice and then eat the liquorice stick. > Neil > FFA I'm replying to message 923 of 988, but have confidence that no one has yet said what I am about to say, because it is not worth saying: System abend FFA is what a job running a DLI pgm gets when the IMS (or DBCTL?) RESLIB specified in the JCL is too back-level for the IMS version currently running on the system. For a week and a half (Monday to Monday to Thursday), I was afflicted with a rather stressful production problem in which some production jobs for which I am responsible suddenly started getting FFA abend, and when I changed to a higher-level RESLIB, other bad things started happening.... I had to keep explaining the problem over and over (if several of the explanations hadn't been to the same person, I would have gotten slightly less frustrated), and soon whenever I said "FFA abend", I felt compelled to add "That doesn't stand for Flying Ford Anglia or First Families of America". From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sat Mar 17 17:33:17 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:33:17 -0000 Subject: St. Paddies Day Message-ID: <99074t+sjdc@eGroups.com> I've had a ridiculously drunk, St. Paddies day in britain is not sometinght to be scoffed at. We started at midnight and are plannuing tii continue until tonight, midight. We spent the day drinking home brew and visiting assorted pubs etc. I'm currently at about 5:30pm, just waiting fdor the evebning seesion to begin. We're beginning to get ready for the main evening haul. I hope you all have a goodf evening in celebtation of the patron st. of ireland, it is needed,. Have fun Dai, etyc From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 17 17:52:46 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:52:46 -0000 Subject: Galleons (was British -> American "Translation", Please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99089e+qtjr@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > > *"Quidditch Through The Ages" by Kennilworthy Whisp: > 14 Sickles 3 Knuts > *New Firebolt Broom: just over 100 Galleons > *Watching Draco Malfoy being bounced up and down > after being turned into a ferret: Priceless Where did you find the price for the new Firebolt? Do I need a SPOILER WARNING before mentioning something in Dumbledore's preface to the Comic Relief books? s p o i l e r w a r n i n g He mentions that Comic Relief has so far raised 250 million dollars for charity, which is 174 million pounds or 34 million Galleons, which works out to $7.35 per Galleon, which I am *completely* unable to believe. (Like those who CANNOT believe that there are 1000 students at Hogwarts regardless what JKR said.) Using the $7.35 Galleon, the book costs around $6.12 on Diagon Alley where it was published compared to $3.99 on this side of the Atlantic. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 18:20:27 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:20:27 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] St. Paddies Day References: <99074t+sjdc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00ec01c0af0e$f1fbfc40$0a14a3d1@doreen> Should we save this and show him when he is sober? (It is a him, right?) Forgive me, Dai, if you are female... and also forgive me for giggling at your post. As we will be celebrating St. Patrick's Day tonight, I plan to unplug my computer before I go pubbing. Doreen, who has learned the hard way never to go online while inebriated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dai Evans" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] St. Paddies Day I've had a ridiculously drunk, St. Paddies day in britain is not sometinght to be scoffed at. We started at midnight and are plannuing tii continue until tonight, midight. We spent the day drinking home brew and visiting assorted pubs etc. I'm currently at about 5:30pm, just waiting fdor the evebning seesion to begin. We're beginning to get ready for the main evening haul. I hope you all have a goodf evening in celebtation of the patron st. of ireland, it is needed,. Have fun Dai, etyc To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 17 17:48:39 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:48:39 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] St. Paddies Day References: <99074t+sjdc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <009001c0af0a$8087efa0$563770c2@c5s910j> Dai slurred: > I've had a ridiculously drunk, St. Paddies day in britain is not > sometinght to be scoffed at. We started at midnight and are > plannuing tii continue until tonight, midight. We spent the day > drinking home brew and visiting assorted pubs etc. I'm currently at > about 5:30pm, just waiting fdor the evebning seesion to begin. We're > beginning to get ready for the main evening haul. I hope you all have > a goodf evening in celebtation of the patron st. of ireland, it is > needed, I thought that was Welsh for a minute, until I realised it was the drink talking. You shamrock my world! Neil ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 17 18:02:27 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:02:27 -0000 Subject: Wand and Lemonheads.... Message-ID: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> Heather was true to her word and posted off the wands and Lemonheads she'd brought with her (she'd left them behind when we all met up in London the other night). Mine arrived today and I can declare the Lemonheads to be similar in taste to sherbet lemons, but without a sherbet centre that I could detect (so far). Actually the Lemonheads are more lemony; sherbet lemons are more sugary and crunchy on the outside. Sherbet lemons are also much bigger and oval shaped, whereas Lemonheads are small and roundish. The wand is dowel with a core of dowel. I tried a few spells on next door's cat and it seems to be working.... next door now have a lovely new sideboard with claw feet. Neil Heather - thanks! ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 18:41:40 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:41:40 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] St. Paddies Day References: <99074t+sjdc@eGroups.com> <009001c0af0a$8087efa0$563770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <010401c0af11$e90caa00$0a14a3d1@doreen> As the effects of alcohol wear on, not only does one's tongue get thick and speech get slurred, but also the fingers on the keyboard get thick and the letters get blurred. Been there, done that Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] St. Paddies Day Dai slurred: > I've had a ridiculously drunk, St. Paddies day in britain is not > sometinght to be scoffed at. We started at midnight and are > plannuing tii continue until tonight, midight. We spent the day > drinking home brew and visiting assorted pubs etc. I'm currently at > about 5:30pm, just waiting fdor the evebning seesion to begin. We're > beginning to get ready for the main evening haul. I hope you all have > a goodf evening in celebtation of the patron st. of ireland, it is > needed, I thought that was Welsh for a minute, until I realised it was the drink talking. You shamrock my world! Neil ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 18:45:28 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:45:28 -0000 Subject: NOthing (was: British Food Question In-Reply-To: <9906lp+o8au@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <990bc8+9ug8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rita Winston" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > > > Basically, you "suck it and see": you suck the sherbet through the > > hollow liquorice and then eat the liquorice stick. > > Neil > > FFA > > I'm replying to message 923 of 988, but have confidence that no one > has yet said what I am about to say, because it is not worth saying: > > System abend FFA is what a job running a DLI pgm gets when the IMS (or > DBCTL?) RESLIB specified in the JCL is too back-level for the IMS > version currently running on the system. > > For a week and a half (Monday to Monday to Thursday), I was > afflicted with a rather stressful production problem in which some > production jobs for which I am responsible suddenly started getting > FFA abend, and when I changed to a higher-level RESLIB, other bad > things started happening.... > > I had to keep explaining the problem over and over (if several of > the explanations hadn't been to the same person, I would have > gotten slightly less frustrated), and soon whenever I said "FFA > abend", I felt compelled to add "That doesn't stand for Flying Ford > Anglia or First Families of America". Moral : if it's working, don't change diddly. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 18:46:32 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:46:32 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wand and Lemonheads.... References: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <010e01c0af12$96d3a9e0$0a14a3d1@doreen> Neil, for those of us who are newer to the group, how did you get dubbed with the nickname FFA? Did you choose it as your pseudonym or did it choose you? Did someone else tack it onto you? If so, why? If I had to choose a character with whom I relate the most, it would have to be Peeves. I like to stir up mischief and play tricks. I used to "nail" my father every April 1st. Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Ward To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Wand and Lemonheads.... Heather was true to her word and posted off the wands and Lemonheads she'd brought with her (she'd left them behind when we all met up in London the other night). Mine arrived today and I can declare the Lemonheads to be similar in taste to sherbet lemons, but without a sherbet centre that I could detect (so far). Actually the Lemonheads are more lemony; sherbet lemons are more sugary and crunchy on the outside. Sherbet lemons are also much bigger and oval shaped, whereas Lemonheads are small and roundish. The wand is dowel with a core of dowel. I tried a few spells on next door's cat and it seems to be working.... next door now have a lovely new sideboard with claw feet. Neil Heather - thanks! ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "The Mexican" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban" by JK Rowling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 17 19:39:30 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:39:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Food In-Reply-To: <004201c0af18$589f88a0$c7a10e41@mtgmry1.md.home.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, - Joy - wrote: > What's a pastie?? Harry and Ron eat pumpkin pasties on the Hogwarts > Express. I'm afraid to do a search for them... I know the more, er, > off-color kind of pasties will show up if I do.? Thanks! A pasty is like a pocket sandwich, pastry crust filled with meat, potatoes, root vegetables (turnips, e.g.). I think it's traditionally a Cornish food? It's popular in the northern states (the really northern ones, Michigan and so on)... I can't say that I've ever actually had one, though, so someone else'll have to testify as to whether they're good or not... --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 19:57:42 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:57:42 -0600 Subject: NKS Swifties .. with apologies to Suzanne Message-ID: <016401c0af1c$88f86860$0a14a3d1@doreen> Sorry, Suzanne, but after seriously reading and agreeing whole-heartedly with your post, while re-reading it, this TS popped out at me. It must have been the obvious relationship between "stone" and "ground". That Stouffer twit is not on the OT list as well, I hope. "I invented the Worry Stone," Stouffer claimed, groundlessly. "I created the Larry & Lilly names," Stouffer stated ignominiously. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 17 19:24:53 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:24:53 -0000 Subject: Flying Ford Anglia - why? References: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> <010e01c0af12$96d3a9e0$0a14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <00e101c0af18$0f448ac0$563770c2@c5s910j> Doreen said: <<>> Hmmmm. I could relate an anecdote about finding skidmarks on my pillow one morning after a night flying the skies in my unrealised mechanimagus form, but the real story, I'm afraid, is rather more boring: - When it came to signing up for Harry potter for Grown Ups I decided I needed an HP-related ID. Not realising the extent of the books' popularity at the time, I started out entering names based on some of the better known characters. After having several names rejected, I concluded that I'd have to do some lateral thinking and scoured the books for a more obscure character. I decided on Flying Ford Anglia, because it jumped out of the page at me. I think the name possessed me... I'm sure other members can recount similar name-finding tales :-) Neil ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 17 20:00:01 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:00:01 -0000 Subject: Pasties ... was food. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <990fo1+ceo@eGroups.com> Jen said ... in response to something Joy said ... "A pasty is like a pocket sandwich, pastry crust filled with meat, potatoes, root vegetables (turnips, e.g.). I think it's traditionally a Cornish food? It's popular in the northern states (the really northern ones, Michigan and so on)... I can't say that I've ever actually had one, though, so someone else'll have to testify as to whether they're good or not..." They are. They are very good, especially if you have just got in from the pub and are quite drunk. But they need ketchup to taste, and plenty of spices, otherwise they are bland as hell. *Proper* Cornish Pasties are traditionally filled with the entire meal, so meat and potatoes at one end, moving on to apple turnover at the far end (or so I'm led to believe) however the vast majority of them are just meat and potatoes. And it is true they guzzle them in the upper peninsula of Michigan, of all places (not a place I've been) - they were brought over around 150 years ago by Cornish tin miners, and stayed. The Michigan pasty has evolved though - whilst it is a Cornish pasty, just like the Cornish ones, it is apparently as big as a good sized American football (rugby ball ... tch), and is served with enough ketchup to drown Rhode Island. They are meant to be very bland and insipid, more so than the Brit versions. I have never tried an American one, I just remembered Bill Bryson going on about it in 'The Lost Continent' As for pumpkin pasties, well, I can't begin to imagine what they might be like. The combination sounds ... icky at best, and as I have a severe revulsion of pumpkins anyway, *I* would not eat one. Perhaps someone brave could try making one, and get back to us with the results ... now there's a challenge. *Al saunters vaguely westwards* PS - Ooh, btw, I think I may have a Tom Swiftie for you. I checked the file and it doesn't *seem* to have been done before, but it is such an obvious one I'd be amazed if it hasn't, so if this tramples on anybody else's patch, then I apologise and will hide for a week or so ... anyway ... "I defeated Voldemort seven days ago," said Harry, weakly. Well *I* liked it :-) From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 17 20:58:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:58:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And another...[Groaner Alert] References: <98u59v+boau@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <020e01c0af24$fdd8c820$0a14a3d1@doreen> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Flanagan" "Hey big boy, wanna go up to my place and do something...off-topic?" asked the lady, chatterly.(Jim Flanagan) How about: Hey, Peeves, wanna go up to my place and do something...off-topic?" asked the Fat Lady, chatterly.(Doreen, with apologies to Jim Flanagan) From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 17 21:46:09 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:46:09 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Flying Ford Anglia - why? Origin of Names...lol References: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> <010e01c0af12$96d3a9e0$0a14a3d1@doreen> <00e101c0af18$0f448ac0$563770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <018901c0af2b$adcfb8a0$10ccfea9@computer> I myself didn't even have HP to rely on~grins... My own GypsyCaine comes from Gypsy Caine, aka Gypsy Canessa (it's her pseudo for writing stories such as those for children--Goosebumps). This is my first Vampire the Masquerade character. I used her because, the same as Neil, each of the names I entered came back taken, and I became exasperated, then thought of trying that as I didn't think anyone else would have it. If you ever see any other GC's out there, let me know immediately, ok? Grins... I'm GC at Juno, at Hotmail, at Yahoo, at AOL, etc. etc. etc. At least it's never taken. Grins... Dee The zany one. (Who prolly should put a trademark on GC just in case Stouffer writes more books....lol) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Flying Ford Anglia - why? > Doreen said: > > << with the nickname FFA? Did you choose it as your pseudonym or did it choose > you? Did someone else tack it onto you? If so, why? > > If I had to choose a character with whom I relate the most, it would have to > be Peeves. I like to stir up mischief and play tricks. I used to "nail" my > father every April 1st. >>> > > Hmmmm. I could relate an anecdote about finding skidmarks on my pillow one > morning after a night flying the skies in my unrealised mechanimagus form, > but the real story, I'm afraid, is rather more boring: - > > When it came to signing up for Harry potter for Grown Ups I decided I needed > an HP-related ID. Not realising the extent of the books' popularity at the > time, I started out entering names based on some of the better known > characters. After having several names rejected, I concluded that I'd have > to do some lateral thinking and scoured the books for a more obscure > character. I decided on Flying Ford Anglia, because it jumped out of the > page at me. I think the name possessed me... > > I'm sure other members can recount similar name-finding tales :-) > > Neil > > ________________________________________ > > Flying Ford Anglia > > "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, > was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint > of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] > > Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything > to do with this club: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From simon at hp.inbox.as Sat Mar 17 21:47:09 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:47:09 -0000 Subject: Names and Wand and Lemonheads.... In-Reply-To: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <990m0t+ihs9@eGroups.com> Neil: "Heather was true to her word and posted off the wands and Lemonheads she'd brought with her (she'd left them behind when we all met up in London the other night). Mine arrived today..." Doh! Never got round to going and checking my post this morning. It had started to sleet so I did not make the long detour to go and see if anyone had sent me anything, as I expected there to be nothing, and went to the supermarket instead. Might go and look tomorrow. Neil: "When it came to signing up for Harry potter for Grown Ups I decided I needed an HP-related ID. Not realising the extent of the books' popularity at the time, I started out entering names based on some of the better known characters. After having several names rejected, I concluded that I'd have to do some lateral thinking and scoured the books for a more obscure character. I decided on Flying Ford Anglia, because it jumped out of the page at me. I think the name possessed me... I'm sure other members can recount similar name-finding tales :-)" I was known as hert0661 for a long time since I could not be bothered to mess around trying to find an alias that had not been taken. Now I go round pretending to be a small owl, I have progressed well! ;) Simon From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 17 23:46:03 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:46:03 -0000 Subject: More Malfoy Thoughts Message-ID: <990svr+ebuj@eGroups.com> A while ago, I posted some thoughts about the Malfoy family somewhere -- that they claim to be descended from Slytherin and their family arms are a reference to Slytherin's arms, for example. To the arms of, on a silver background, a green snake (Slytherin's stuff color-reversed) wrapping itself around a black sword and dripping venom on it, and supporters of dexter, a man on fire and sinister, an angel holding a bloody sword with which he just stabbed someone in the back, I now add a motto: Watch Your Back a crest (that's the ornament on top of the helmet, in real life usually a handkerchief or a feather): the head of Janus wearing a coronet (two-faced) I also made up some genealogy, in which Lucius's father, Malaspina Malfoy, had a son Mercutio born 1929 or 1930 by his first wife and then Lucius was born in 1949 from his 'second wife' Lucretia Borgin, so Lucius had to kill off both Malaspina and Mercutio to inherit the estate. Then Mercutio would have been in school just a couple of years behind Tom Riddle, and Malaspina was doubtless on the Board of Governors, so two opportunities for ambitious poor orphan Tom Riddle to insert himself into the Malfoy family -- and be there, as a bad influence, for all of Lucius's life. And find Lucius so simpatico that he helped Lucius kill his father and brother who had been Tom's friends first.... But it occured to me, after I went to bed last Sunday night, that (with the slower-aging of wizarding folk) Lucius could have been the one born in 1929-30, Tom Riddle's friend from school, and no need to murder anyone to become the Malfoy heir..... From lj2d30 at gateway.net Sun Mar 18 00:01:48 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:01:48 -0000 Subject: Pasties ... was food. In-Reply-To: <990fo1+ceo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <990ttc+59tb@eGroups.com> > Al wrote: > As for pumpkin pasties, well, I can't begin to imagine what they > might be like. The combination sounds ... icky at best, and as I > have a severe revulsion of pumpkins anyway, *I* would not eat one. > Perhaps someone brave could try making one, and get back to us with > the results ... now there's a challenge. I imagine that pumpkin pasties are rather like pumpkin pie but with a crust all around, sort of like a McDonald's apple pie or Hostess pies. My 2 knuts. Trina From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sun Mar 18 00:13:12 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:13:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Griffin etymology, again In-Reply-To: <3AB3EC8C.43E8D4F0@wicca.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Catlady wrote (in HPFGU): > I think it is Adrienne Mayor who wrote the article from which I have the > information that the Greek name of Gryphon (origin of Griffin) comes > from a Greek word means 'grasp' or 'claw' -- I recently said it was > Greek for 'grabber' because I was trying to be colloquial. Yes, having given it slightly more thought, 'grups' (Gr. for 'griffin') is related to a whole bunch of Greek words meaning 'hooked, crooked'. A related word can refer to bird talons. It's not the grasping aspect as much as the shape, though, that the words emphasize (I don't see any meaning 'grasp' vel sim.). (I wouldn't be surprised if Eng. 'grip' wasn't related to these words with root 'gru_p'... but I wouldn't be too certain of that, either. Now I'm going to have to go to the library on Monday and check Chantraine (Dictionnaire ?tymologique de la langue Grecque) and see whether a PIE root is postulated...) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From joy0823 at earthlink.net Sun Mar 18 01:26:02 2001 From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:26:02 -0500 Subject: eBooks Message-ID: <007501c0af4a$66094c60$c7a10e41@mtgmry1.md.home.com> I'm not sure whether this is on topic or not, so I decided to err on the side of caution... Does anyone know if the books are available for e-book download anywhere? I'd love to be able to read them on my Palm. GoF is great, but it's heavy to lug around. ; ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "The Mexican" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "HP and the Prisoner of Azkaban" by JK Rowling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 02:49:51 2001 From: junkjunkjunk2000 at hotmail.com (~*Vicki Granger*~) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:49:51 +1100 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner Message-ID: Is there another group to join for this? ======== ~*Vicki Granger*~ FanFiction.Net Author Hermione Granger in Harry_Potter_RPG2 113% Obsessed with Harry Potter ~*~MeMbEr Of EvIl ClUb~*~ :>(*)<: Reserve Seeker :>(*)<: Proud Ravenclaw _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From pbnesbit at msn.com Sun Mar 18 03:20:53 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:20:53 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9919il+dam2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "~*Vicki Granger*~" wrote: > Is there another group to join for this? > > ======== > > ~*Vicki Granger*~ > FanFiction.Net Author > Hermione Granger in Harry_Potter_RPG2 > 113% Obsessed with Harry Potter > ~*~MeMbEr Of EvIl ClUb~*~ > :>(*)<: Reserve Seeker :>(*)<: > Proud Ravenclaw Vicki, Nope. We have debates (usually over on the main group--at least it has been in the past) about who should be with who--all in good fun, of course. Peace & Plenty, Parker (who's nominating herself bard of the H/H Cruiseliner) > __________________________ _______________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 18 03:24:34 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:24:34 -0000 Subject: SHIP: H/H Cruiseliner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9919pi+1rjm@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "~*Vicki Granger*~" wrote: > Is there another group to join for this? http://www.yahoogroups.com/files/ParadigmOfUncertainty/ That is the egroup for the fanfics written by the magnificent Lori and the excellent Penny & Carole. I have read the super-wonderful fics but not joined the discussion group. I have heard that it is full of H/H shippers. From pbnesbit at msn.com Sun Mar 18 03:28:40 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:28:40 -0000 Subject: Pasties ... was food. In-Reply-To: <990fo1+ceo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <991a18+vpfn@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > Jen said ... in response to something Joy said ... > > "A pasty is like a pocket sandwich, pastry crust filled with meat, > potatoes, root vegetables (turnips, e.g.). I think it's > traditionally a Cornish food? It's popular in the northern states > (the really northern ones, Michigan and so on)... I can't say that > I've ever actually had one, though, so someone else'll have to > testify as to whether they're good or not..." > > They are. They are very good, especially if you have just got in > from the pub and are quite drunk. But they need ketchup to taste, > and plenty of spices, otherwise they are bland as hell. *Proper* > Cornish Pasties are traditionally filled with the entire meal, so > meat and potatoes at one end, moving on to apple turnover at the far > end (or so I'm led to believe) however the vast majority of them are > just meat and potatoes. > > And it is true they guzzle them in the upper peninsula of Michigan, > of all places (not a place I've been) - they were brought over around > 150 years ago by Cornish tin miners, and stayed. The Michigan pasty > has evolved though - whilst it is a Cornish pasty, just like the > Cornish ones, it is apparently as big as a good sized American > football (rugby ball ... tch), and is served with enough ketchup to > drown Rhode Island. They are meant to be very bland and insipid, > more so than the Brit versions. I have never tried an American one, > I just remembered Bill Bryson going on about it in 'The Lost > Continent' (Snip the pumpkin pasty bit because just the thought of them makes me ill) The ones *I* make are delicious--I don't put catsup on mine (perish the thought!--*that's* an abomination!) When I can find my recipe, I'll post it. > > > *Al saunters vaguely westwards* > > Towards Charleston, Al? Peace & Plenty, Parker From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 04:21:28 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:21:28 -0000 Subject: Exchange Rates Message-ID: <991d48+o1ci@eGroups.com> Christian wrote: "I agree that the Galleon seems underrated. It may of course be a result of the exchange-rate not properly reflecting the relations in actual buying-power between the currencies. This is analogue to what I experienced on a 3-week tour through Europe with an American concert-band in 1994: I noted that if I had brought traveler's cheques in US Dollars (USD) instead of Norwegian Kroner (NOK) (assuming equivalent amounts), I would have gotten up to 50% more of the local currency than I did. I brought NOK equivalent of USD400, but they lasted only as long as 300 *actual* USD would have lasted. This is of course also *very* beneficial to muggle-born students, whose money will last a long way. "I also note that there *is* inflation in the wizarding world, as 150 Galleons in 1269 is the equivalent of more than one million Galleons today." --I'll agree that the Galleon rate seems a little bit low. I'll also admit that money exchange rates completely baffle me. I got GBP 20 for USD 40 while in Britian and I don't think that was very good. When I was in France the only person who could convert to Francs was a Brit. and so my American friends and I were going from Francs to Pounds to Dollars...Argh! So does this mean that the Wizards are better off getting paid in GBP and then changing them to WWG (Wizard World Galleons)???? Scott Who just doesn't get it... From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 18 05:37:01 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:37:01 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pasties ... was food. References: <990ttc+59tb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <002a01c0af6d$75e657e0$7d14a3d1@doreen> Al wrote: As for pumpkin pasties, well, I can't begin to imagine what they might be like. While we are on the subject of pasties, I heard Jim Dale pronounce them, "past - ees" ... which I found interesting. I had been incorrectly pronouncing them "pay - stees" like our similar word, "pastries." Doreen From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Sun Mar 18 06:12:10 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:12:10 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pasties ... was food. Message-ID: <6d.10eb8b2d.27e5abba@aol.com> **steps out of lurkerville** I am the daughter of the son of one of those Cornish miners. My grandfather left Cornwall to settle in Wisconsin (my dad wisely moved to Texas before I was born) and I also have a wonderful family pasty recipe. I'm going over to dad's tomorrow sometime and will get a copy of it for y'all. We always had pasty on Christmas Eve in celebration of my dad's birthday (which is actually Christmas day). I enjoy them, but I was brought up to think they are a special treat. And yes, I do put ketchup on mine, or spicy stuff if I have it. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 18 05:57:14 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 05:57:14 -0000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pasties ... was food. References: <990ttc+59tb@eGroups.com> <002a01c0af6d$75e657e0$7d14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <021701c0af70$6501f940$563770c2@c5s910j> Doreen said: > As for pumpkin pasties, well, I can't begin to imagine what they > might be like. > > While we are on the subject of pasties, I heard Jim Dale pronounce them, > "past - ees" ... which I found interesting. I had been incorrectly > pronouncing them "pay - stees" like our similar word, "pastries." English is such an odd language. Pasty the noun (the pastry turnover previously described) is pronounced with a short 'a' sound (as in hat), but pasty the adjective (meaning, for example "unhealthily pale") is pronounced with a long 'a', as in paste. Both meanings are derived from paste (originally Old French/Medieval past [e acute]). I guess Draco could be described as pasty-faced and that wouldn't mean that his face resembles an edible pasty. Neil, sucking a Lemonhead.....mmmm. ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From naama_gat at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 08:17:09 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:17:09 -0000 Subject: A swift swiftie Message-ID: <991qu5+j8qm@eGroups.com> "I can't drink this pumpkin juice!" yelled Sirius, rabidly. Naama From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 18 08:27:07 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:27:07 -0600 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <000c01c0af85$3a69d760$7d14a3d1@doreen> "Seize him! SIEZE HIM!" shouted Voldemort, occipitally. "All right there, Scarhead?" yelled Malfoy, jaggedly. "I knew it! I knew it!" yelled Hermione, as she looked through the binoculars, short-sightedly. "Someone's fixed the Bludger to go after Harry," cried George, stalkingly. "Get the snitch or die trying," Wood told Harry, ultimately. "This crytal ball is dirty," whined Trelawney, unpredictably. "What is this piece of parchment?" Snape asked Harry, uninformatively. "I just can't go on like this," Professor Sprout sighed, herbicidally. "I think I will pop into my favorite cafe and jot down some ideas," mused JKR, potterly. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 18 09:39:22 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:39:22 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] April Fool's Jokes ...was Wand and Lemonheads.... References: <00ad01c0af0c$6df64ba0$563770c2@c5s910j> <010e01c0af12$96d3a9e0$0a14a3d1@doreen> <007701c0af8a$b1127b60$4ae01b3f@rena> Message-ID: <000c01c0af8f$524dfa00$7d14a3d1@doreen> *g* do tell Doreen! Just what did you do to your father on April 1. I could use some ideas. Rena If I had to choose a character with whom I relate the most, it would have to be Peeves. I like to stir up mischief and play tricks. I used to "nail" my father every April 1st. My son and I died a pot of spagetti pink and another pot of spagetti green. We then draped the pretty "strings" over every available branch of trees & bushes, the bird bath & feeders, and fence railings. It was quite colorful. The birds & squirrels loved it. Another year, we forked the whole yard! This meant buying up many packages of plastic white forks, such as those used in fast food or picnicing. You just stick them in the yard, spacing them out dependant on how many forks you have. When you are finished, a few forks appear to be a lot more than they really are. (This made the local newspaper... with an anonymous tip that is) Another year, we draped the trees, railings, and car with yards & yards of yellow plastic tape, such as you see in police crime scenes. Yet another year, we filled his entire car with styrofoam chips. Don't forget that April is usually rather windy in Iowa. My father thought he really had us outsmarted, though. He opened the driver's side door, and sucked up the chips with his huge wet-vac. His mistake, though, was to go around to the passenger side and open the door .... ooops! He did not close the driver's side door!Chips flew like snow, all over the yard. (Of course, my son & I cleaned them up ... as well as the forks, and the spagetti... my father was not well enough to do this) One of the best tricks was the year that I came up empty headed as far as April Fool's Day ideas went. Much as I hated to disappoint my dad, I just did nothing. Late in the afternoon, I got a phone call from my mom. She said, "Please tell your father that you did not play a prank this year. He has gone all around the yard, out to the car, down into the basement, looking for what you did. Every time the phone rings, he jumps." hee hee ... GOTCHA! Thanks for asking me to share these stories. It is so nice to be able to talk about my dad now and think about the things we did together and finally be able to smile and laugh about them. It helps to keep my memories of him alive in my heart. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I like to stir up mischief and play tricks. I used to "nail" my father every April 1st. My son and I died a pot of spagetti pink and another pot of spagetti green. We then draped the pretty "strings" over every available branch of trees & bushes, the bird bath & feeders, and fence railings. It was quite colorful. The birds & squirrels loved it. Another year, we forked the whole yard! This meant buying up many packages of plastic white forks, such as those used in fast food or picnicing. You just stick them in the yard, spacing them out dependant on how many forks you have. When you are finished, a few forks appear to be a lot more than they really are. (This made the local newspaper... with an anonymous tip that is) Another year, we draped the trees, railings, and car with yards & yards of yellow plastic tape, such as you see in police crime scenes. Yet another year, we filled his entire car with styrofoam chips. Don't forget that April is usually rather windy in Iowa. My father thought he really had us outsmarted, though. He opened the driver's side door, and sucked up the chips with his huge wet-vac. His mistake, though, was to go around to the passenger side and open the door .... ooops! He did not close the driver's side door!Chips flew like snow, all over the yard. (Of course, my son & I cleaned them up ... as well as the forks, and the spagetti... my father was not well enough to do this) One of the best tricks was the year that I came up empty headed as far as April Fool's Day ideas went. Much as I hated to disappoint my dad, I just did nothing. Late in the afternoon, I got a phone call from my mom. She said, "Please tell your father that you did not play a prank this year. He has gone all around the yard, out to the car, down into the basement, looking for what you did. Every time the phone rings, he jumps." hee hee ... GOTCHA! Thanks for asking me to share these stories. It is so nice to be able to talk about my dad now and think about the things we did together and finally be able to smile and laugh about them. It helps to keep my memories of him alive in my heart. Doreen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 12:53:10 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:53:10 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <98vtcc+a4i2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992b3m+hh22@eGroups.com> Wotan wrote: > You could probably do most of it - there's a couple (in Friday's > puzzle) where being English would help and that's probably true of > most days. Oddly enough there were no references to American states - > there's usually one or two. It helps to know all the states and their > two-letter abbreviations! In that case, it would be much easier for English than for American solvers. Americans are notoriously ignorant of geography. I don't know what percentage of us can name all 50 states, but I'm sure it's low. A frighteningly large proportion of Americans don't know that New Mexico is a U.S. state, not a country, that Iowa and Ohio and Idaho are three different states, or that Rhode Island is not an island (don't ask me how it got that name). My 7th grade students in California thought that when I said I was from New England, it meant I was from another country ("how come you don't have an accent?"). As for the two-letter abbreviations, you have to be a bit of a buff to learn them all. They get difficult when you get into the long list of M's. Amy Z, who loves geography, maps, and trivia of all kinds From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 13:00:25 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:00:25 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <98vtcc+a4i2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992bh9+dkd2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > She may change (3) :)) HP listie now at Transfiguration (5) ;-) Amy From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 13:58:45 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:58:45 -0000 Subject: Ignore this if you hate crosswords In-Reply-To: <992bh9+dkd2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992eul+285e@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > She may change (3) :)) > > HP listie now at Transfiguration (5) > > ;-) > Amy :)) From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 14:17:10 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:17:10 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <992b3m+hh22@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992g16+3aj5@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Amy Z, who loves geography, maps, and trivia of all kinds JKR loves maps too - she said that she took Dursley, Dudley and Snape from place-names on maps. You can get extracts from the Ordnance Survey maps of England using the URL below, using the search and download service. (unfortunately it looks like the historical map part of the service is down this weekend - that's a shame as the old maps are interesting). No Hogsmeade turns up in the search though! Maybe Dumbledore had a quiet word with them ... http://www.ordsvy.gov.uk/home/index.html From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 15:36:55 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:36:55 +0200 Subject: chat schedule Message-ID: Hi, I just looked at the calendar, and it gives a different time for the chat than i remembered. It says 9PM my time (GMT+2) which means 7PM for the Brits and 2PM eastern. Is that the correct time? I was sure it was an hour later... Thanks, yael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being very well-dressed nails." - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 18 15:46:14 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:46:14 -0000 Subject: chat schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <992l86+rkr1@eGroups.com> Yael: <<>> No one is quite sure when it is meant to start. usually people start arriving from 7pm GMT and some continue chatting until 3am GMT (or possibly later, I give up and go to sleep around). Did you like my comprehensive review for KDIL? I thought it was one of my better ones. And yes it does mean that I have finally got round to reading it. Simon From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 18 17:53:50 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:53:50 -0000 Subject: Lemonhead ... was Pasties ... was food. In-Reply-To: <021701c0af70$6501f940$563770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <992sne+8bcl@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Neil, sucking a Lemonhead.....mmmm. In much the same way that John waxed enthusiastic over the threat to hit him with a Claymore? From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 18 17:56:55 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:56:55 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <992b3m+hh22@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992st7+tie8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > As for the two-letter abbreviations, you have to be a bit of a buff > to learn them all. Or have a LOT of pen-pals (remember Snail Mail?) > They get difficult when you get into the long list of M's. I sruggle with them ... is ME Maine, because MN is Montana (Minnesota?) because MO is Missouri because MI is Michigan.... I'm pretty clear on MA is Massachusetts, at least!!!!! From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 18:10:52 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:10:52 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <992st7+tie8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992tnc+9a29@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rita Winston" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > > As for the two-letter abbreviations, you have to be a bit of a buff > > to learn them all. > > Or have a LOT of pen-pals (remember Snail Mail?) > > > > They get difficult when you get into the long list of M's. > > I sruggle with them ... is ME Maine, because MN is Montana > (Minnesota?) because MO is Missouri because MI is Michigan.... I'm > pretty clear on MA is Massachusetts, at least!!!!! MN *is* Minnesota, MT is Montana. ;) Then you have the Ns, because of all the "New" states... NY - New York, NJ - New Jersey, NM - New Mexico (state, not the country... heehee), NV - Nevada, NH - New Hampshire, NC - North Carolina, ND - North Dakota, NE - Nebraska, NF - Newfoundland... oh wait... that's Canada... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ;) Jen (who also loves geography and general trivia of all kinds, and is saving up to buy a wall-sized map for her daughter's bedroom) From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 18 18:20:42 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:20:42 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <992tnc+9a29@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992u9q+al8i@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" wrote: > Then you have the Ns, because of all the "New" states... > > NY - New York, NJ - New Jersey, NM - New Mexico (state, not the > country... heehee), NV - Nevada, NH - New Hampshire, NC - North > Carolina, ND - North Dakota, NE - Nebraska, NF - Newfoundland... > oh wait... that's Canada... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ;) The N's are MUCH EASIER than the M's because most of them are the initials of the state. Wasn't New York abbreviated "N. Y." back in the days that California was abbreviated "Cal."? From nera at rconnect.com Sun Mar 18 18:24:14 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: chat schedule References: <992l86+rkr1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001101c0afd8$a3e71100$0f14a3d1@doreen> Yael said: Is that the correct time? I was sure it was an hour later... Simon said: No one is quite sure when it is meant to start. usually people start arriving from 7pm GMT and some continue chatting until 3am GMT (or possibly later, I give up and go to sleep around). It is really none of my business if you go "to sleep around" ... but when I read that, I was sipping coffee! Doreen, wiping wet monitor From Schlobin at aol.com Sun Mar 18 18:24:05 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:24:05 -0000 Subject: where did the transcripts go/ Message-ID: <992ug5+lfa2@eGroups.com> Where did transcripts of interviews/chats with JKR go? From simon at hp.inbox.as Sun Mar 18 18:29:30 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:29:30 -0000 Subject: chat schedule In-Reply-To: <001101c0afd8$a3e71100$0f14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <992uqa+rmmn@eGroups.com> Yael said: "Is that the correct time? I was sure it was an hour later..." Simon said: "No one is quite sure when it is meant to start. usually people start arriving from 7pm GMT and some continue chatting until 3am GMT (or possibly later, I give up and go to sleep around)." Doreen: "It is really none of my business if you go "to sleep around" ... but when I read that, I was sipping coffee!" That will teach me to change what I am going to write mid sentence. It originally said 'around that time' and obviously I did not cut quite enough! Makes the whole comment more amusing! Simon From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 18 18:48:32 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:48:32 -0000 Subject: where did the transcripts go/ In-Reply-To: <992ug5+lfa2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <992vu0+vpb5@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > Where did transcripts of interviews/chats with JKR go? Does your question mean that the ones that were posted were deleted for copyright reasons? Or are you asking to which HPfGU list to mail a transcript? Steve Van der Ark's Lexicon has links to the latest JKR chat: http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/site_sources.html http://www.comicrelief.com/harrysbooks/pages/transcript.shtml From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sun Mar 18 19:13:00 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:13:00 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <000c01c0af85$3a69d760$7d14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9931bs+sjpc@eGroups.com> "It's my favorite place to shop," said Harry diagonally "Don't tell your mother that you've been gambling, sons," said Arthur dicily. "Summers are exceptionally humid on Privet Drive," said Harry muggily. "What is that Puffskein eating now?" asked Mrs. Weasley nosily. "Tis the mark of a house-elves' enslavement," sighed Dobby raggedly "Master has given a sock!" cried Dobby freely. "Mrs. Norris has been turned to stone!" cried Filch catatonically "My brother Charlie once caught a Hippocampus in his pajamas," said Ron brainily. "And how that Hippocampus got in my pajamas I'll never know," remarked Charlie grouchily. There's a bowtruckle in our backyard!" cried Ron woodenly. "The time-turner is for educational purposes only," said Hermione chronically. "Feeding time, Nagini!" said Voldemort venomously. - CMC From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 19:59:06 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:59:06 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <9931bs+sjpc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99342a+uva8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > > There's a bowtruckle in our backyard!" cried Ron woodenly. > bowtruckle? Explain it to the Brits please! Wotan From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 20:24:39 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:24:39 -0000 Subject: Chat-HELP! Message-ID: <9935i7+f6j2@eGroups.com> Did the Cheetah chat number thingy change? I can't seem to get to the chat. Please help someone! Scott From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 20:39:25 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:39:25 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <99342a+uva8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9936dt+ohrs@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > > > > There's a bowtruckle in our backyard!" cried Ron woodenly. > > > > bowtruckle? Explain it to the Brits please! > > Wotan Caius has explained it to me! I really must buy those books ... From tanwo at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 20:47:53 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:47:53 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <9936tp+mfdu@eGroups.com> For the convenience of the Swifitians I have put up a file listing all the adverbs used so far. It can be found here - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU- OTChatter/files/Club_Humor/adverb2.txt It is based on the TXT file that Doreen put up last night. If an adverb is in there it has been used. If it isn't - it may be unused, but of course a recent post may have used it. So, remember - "It's dated" said Wotan fruitily. But it provides a starting point for those hunting for new inspiration. I have interpreted "adverb" liberally - if it ended with 'ly' I accepted it! I'm as guilty as any other ... Wotan From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 20:59:19 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:59:19 -0500 Subject: YOUNG READERS (A review of QTtA and FB&WtFT) Message-ID: <004401c0afee$4d463d60$10ccfea9@computer> YOUNG READERS Any property as popular as Harry Potter is bound to have tie-ins. There have been calendars, puzzles, games, and those strange little collectible stones. But none of them is as charming and amusing as the two little companion books author J.K. Rowling has created. These titles, short as they are, flesh out parts of Harry's world, and Potter fans will love them. Quidditch Through the Ages by Rowling alter-ego Kennilworthy Whisp, and Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander, are being released by Scholastic for 3.99 each. The net proceeds will go to charity. The books are referenced in the Potter titles and are meant to look as though they came directly from the magical world. Quidditch Through the Ages, a history of the wizarding world's most popular sport, is reproduced from a copy in Harry's school library. Fantastic Beasts, a duplicate of yuong wizard Harry's own textbook, categorized all kinds of magical creatures. It's covered with notes and comments from Harry and his friends, just like a child's schoolbook would be--an endearing touch from Rowling and a clever way to remind readers about his adventures. Quidditch Through the Ages is a thorough telling of the game's history, its spread throughout the world and all the major teams. It has a section about the racing brooms used in the sport, but unfortunately omits the Firebolt Harry uses, perhaps because that top-of-the-line broom is such a recent addition. Rowling has written both titles with the same humor and wit she's brought to her other books. They are amazingly imaginative; too bad they aren't longer. The book proceeds are going to a fund established by Comic Relief U.K. That organization, not affiliated with the United States charity of the same name, will use the money for children's causes. Deepti Hajela Associated Press Copied from the Akron Beacon Journal, page D5, Issued March 18, 2001 ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Monica __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 18 16:45:59 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:45:59 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: chat schedule References: <992l86+rkr1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Simon: "Did you like my comprehensive review for KDIL? I thought it was one of my better ones. And yes it does mean that I have finally got round to reading it." To counter my rant from the HP_FanFiction group... Of course i did! Do you know how long i've been waiting for the reviews counter to hit a round number? Although, i must admit, i have no octopuses around i can gargle... yael *snickering like crazy* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Mon Mar 19 05:44:45 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:44:45 -0000 Subject: Any differences between Sorcerer's & Philosopher's? In-Reply-To: <20010319031127.18292.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9946cd+ui5q@eGroups.com> There are no substantial differences in the text of the American and British editions, aside from numerous minor differences in grammar and vocabulary which were probably inserted by the publishers' editiorial staffs. Several of these differences have been discussed here and on the main group (sweater/jumper, names of confections, etc.). If you are interested in such things, it's probably worth getting both versions of one of the volumes. I think that the PS/SS differences are probably the largest, and diminish in the later books. Here are some differences that I have noted between versions: 1. Quotation marks: British versions use single quotes (') the first level, and double quotes (") as the second level. The American versions are the opposite. The French and Spanish editions don't use quotation marks at all, but use double dashes and double braces respectively. Here's an example from the first chapter of Chamber: British: 'I meant "please"!' said Harry quickly. 'I didn't mean --' American: "I meant 'please'!" said Harry quickly. "I didn't mean --" French: --Je voulais simplement dire ?s'il te pla?t!? pr?cisa Harry d'un ton pr?cipit?. Je ne pensais pas du tout ?... Spanish: --?Me refer?a a ?por favor?! --dijo Harry inmediamente--. No me refer?a a... 2. The British versions omit periods after many abbreviations, such as Mrs -- Thus, Filch's cat is "Mrs Norris" in the British versions, but "Mrs. Norris" in the American. 3. Collective nouns are sometimes treated as plural in the British versions, but singular in the American. This is particularly obvious when referring to sports teams: British: "Slitherin score!" American: "the Slitherins score!" 4. An editorial substitution of "mother" for "father" in one passage of GoF differentiates the American from the British and French versions (this has nothing to do with the "wand order" error, which exists in all three editions): British: Harry described how the figures which had emerged from the wand had prowled the edges of the golden web, how Voldemort had seemed to fear them, how the shadow of Harry's *father* had told him what to do, how Cedric's had made its final request. (GoF, p. 606) American: Harry described how the figures that had emerged from the wand had prowled the edges of the golden web, how Voldemort had seemed to fear them, how the shadow of Harry's *mother* had told him what to do, how Cedric's had made its final request. (GoF, p. 698) French: Harry raconta comment les silhouettes jaillies de la baguette avaient march? le long du cercle d?limit? par le d?me d'or, il d?crivit l'expression de peur sur le visage de Voldemort, il rapporta les paroles de son *p?re* qui lui avait dit ce qu'il devait faire, puis l'ultime requ?te de Cedric. (CdF, p. 621) Comment: When you look back at the passage where Harry's parents (or their "echoes") are speaking to him, it is true that his mother gives him more instructions than his father does. Apparently an American editor changed "father" to "mother" for this reason. The French translator was apparently working from the British text, and said "father." 5. Here's an odd substitution going from the British to the American. The French and Spanish versions of the same passage are included for comparison: British: "...it's awful trying to go to the loo with her wailing at you --" (CoS, p. 101) American: "...it's awful trying to have a pee with her wailing at you --" (CoS, p. 133) French: "...C'est terrible d'aller aux toilettes et de l'entendre g?mir sans arr?t..." (lCdS, p. 146) Spanish: "...es horroroso ir al servicio mientras la oyes llorar." (lCS, p. 119) Comment: Americans know quite well that "loo" is a British term for toilet, so this substitution was entirely unnecessary. Perhaps one of our slash fanfic authors is moonlighting at Scholastic, and inserted "pee" for shock value. -Jim Flanagan (Hard at work on the International Editions FAQ) --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Monica Lai wrote: > Dear All: > > Is there any difference between the UK version and the > US version in addition to the title? > > I have a copy of the UK version and am wondering if I > should get a US one. > > Thanks. > > Monica > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Slytherin_Daughter at yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 06:49:56 2001 From: Slytherin_Daughter at yahoo.com (Slytherin_Daughter at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:49:56 -0000 Subject: chat schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <994a6k+l7b7@eGroups.com> yael: > Although, i must admit, i have no octopuses around i can gargle... > People! It's *octopi*! *Octopi*! The multiple of "octopus" is "octopi", not "octopuses". Just like "cacti", not "cactuses", "hippopotomi", not "hippopotomuses", etc, etc, etc. Why is this so hard to grasp? Emily/MC From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 08:00:26 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:00:26 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: chat schedule References: <994a6k+l7b7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: yael: > Although, i must admit, i have no octopuses around i can gargle... > People! It's *octopi*! *Octopi*! The multiple of "octopus" is "octopi", not "octopuses". Just like "cacti", not "cactuses", "hippopotomi", not "hippopotomuses", etc, etc, etc. Why is this so hard to grasp? Emily/MC Don't give me that look... I'm here to learn English, and this is what they're teaching me! Emily, does this outbreak of English-teaching mean that you're willing to *drum roll, please* beta-read? yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 11:41:22 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:41:22 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] octopus and fly out of context References: <994h54+pubp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Emily: "People! It's *octopi*! *Octopi*! The multiple of "octopus" is "octopi", not "octopuses". Just like "cacti", not "cactuses", "hippopotomi", not "hippopotomuses", etc, etc, etc. Why is this so hard to grasp?" Simon: "Because either is correct. It can be octopi or octopuses, and in the context I was using it octopuses worked better." Context? what context? the entire review contained only one more word - "gargle". I wouldn't define this as a context. :) Simon: "As you will notice the word fly can be used as the name for either the fastening or the material covering the fastening. Hence flies can be either zip or buttons." This may sound even crazier than your review, but... 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Next we will have to discuss the subtext behind my review. ;) yael: "This may sound even crazier than your review, but... Please keep up the lessons... *batters eyelashes in a cute manner*" How can I resist a woman (glad I checed this through before sending. I did my women/woman mistype!) with cute kids fluttering her eyelids at me? Simon From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:20:19 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:20:19 -0000 Subject: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff In-Reply-To: <9946cd+ui5q@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <994ti3+7a7d@eGroups.com> Jim Flanagan wrote: > 3. Collective nouns are sometimes treated as plural in the British > versions, but singular in the American. This is particularly obvious > when referring to sports teams: > > British: "Slitherin score!" > > American: "the Slitherins score!" Okay, I know this was done to death awhile back, but it's the OT list and I can write whatever I want! Bwahahahahaha! <--high, cold, cruel laugh This illustration doesn't quite capture the difference. The point is that if the commentator was American, and calling the team Slytherin, he/she would say "Slytherin scores." British usage treats the team, whatever its name, as a plural. In US usage, we vary it depending on the feel of the noun itself. This is done in a highly irregular manner. For example: The Celtics score! but Boston scores! Okay, that makes some kind of sense. They are the same thing--the Boston Celtics--but "Celtics" is plural and "Boston" is singular. So far so good. But when you come to team names that are singular--which are a fairly new phenomenon in the US, but on the rise, particularly in soccer--things get weird. Miami scores! BUT The Heat score! The name is singular, but you'll often hear the plural verb anyway. Then, there's the rule I was taught, which is that it depends on whether you're talking about collective action or individual action. The team put on their uniforms. (team treated as a group of individuals) The team put on its best performance all season. (team treated as a single entity) Back to HP--Jim, I've noticed different paragraphing in the US and UK editions. My very rough first impression is that the US edition tends to break up paragraphs more. Check out ch. 33 of GF for several examples. Arthur Levine's comments on UK-->US translation are a tad disingenuous and oddly confused, IMO (see hpgalleries.com). E.g., he says that they translated "barking" because USans don't know what it means, and he explains, "'Dumbledore is barking mad' means he's really angry." This is not what "barking" means--and furthermore, they don't translate it, at least not every time. (I'm hoping that this one will find its way into 'Murcan. I love the term "barking.") Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:24:10 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:24:10 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <992tnc+9a29@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <994tpa+7a7a@eGroups.com> Jen wrote: > > Then you have the Ns, because of all the "New" states... > > NY - New York, NJ - New Jersey, NM - New Mexico (state, not the > country... heehee), NV - Nevada, NH - New Hampshire, NC - North > Carolina, ND - North Dakota, NE - Nebraska, NF - Newfoundland... oh > wait... that's Canada... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ;) > And confusing little things like the fact that Vermont's state school is called UVM, even though the abbreviation is VT. I wonder how many UVM students from out of state write "Burlington, VM" as their address... Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:59:43 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:59:43 -0000 Subject: Hufflepuff Pride Message-ID: <994vrv+482c@eGroups.com> The Leaky Cauldron (B.K. DeLong's site, www.the-leaky-cauldron.org) referred us to an article about a Western Massachusetts school where the kids are playing a version of Quidditch (as B.K. points out, Western Mass is fertile ground for new sports). The Snitch is a superball--superballs are plastic balls no more than 1 1/2 inches in diameter that bounce extremely high. I just had to post this line, about the 5th graders' (10/11-year-olds') House competition: >The Hufflepuffs at East Meadow are currently leading >the competition with more than 1,000 points. All right! Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:13:44 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:13:44 -0000 Subject: Any differences between Sorcerer's & Philosopher's? In-Reply-To: <20010319031127.18292.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9950m8+v0pt@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Monica Lai wrote: > Dear All: > > Is there any difference between the UK version and the > US version in addition to the title? > > I have a copy of the UK version and am wondering if I > should get a US one. > Check out http://www.hpgalleries.com/wordgallery1.htm for a list of UK/US differences in all 4 books. Most are idioms or grammar differences, e.g. UK says "stop him [doing something]" US says "stop him from [doing something." Amy Z From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 19 13:22:56 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:22:56 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Plurals! References: <994a6k+l7b7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB60830.DAA9CBD6@texas.net> Slytherin_Daughter at yahoo.com wrote: > People! It's *octopi*! *Octopi*! The multiple of "octopus" > is "octopi", not "octopuses". Just like "cacti", not "cactuses", > "hippopotomi", not "hippopotomuses", etc, etc, etc. Why is this so > hard to grasp? Because (a) either is correct, and (b) the reason that either is correct is that most speakers of English are these days ignorant of the linguistic origins of some words, and/or do not know how the plurals are formed in the original language, and so ignore it and form plurals in the way English does. Oh, and (c) to drive linguistic nit-pickers like yourself (and me) nuts [don't even get me started on the now-acceptable mispronunciation of 'harassment' as HAIR-assment, which sounds to me like a medical condition treatable with a depilatory....] --Amanda, proud speaker of plurals such as "kleenices"....oh, and Emily, my dear, if you say "phoenixes," too, instead of "phoenices," you're calling the kettle black (although it can be argued that there *was* no word for more than one phoenix, because there *was* only one phoenix, so we're free to make the plural any way we want...) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Mon Mar 19 13:34:54 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:34:54 -0000 Subject: tom swiftie Message-ID: <9951tu+ilks@eGroups.com> My computer is playing up and so I am unable to check the list of already done swifties. So apologies if this has already been done. "All this money is mine?" asked Harry, (k)nutily. or maybe "All this money is yours?" asked Ron, sicklely. (this one needs a bit of a mispronunciation) Simon From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Mon Mar 19 15:17:11 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:17:11 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <3AB60830.DAA9CBD6@texas.net> Message-ID: <9957tn+tcno@eGroups.com> Following the logic of the second thread cited below, a sports team called "The Octopus" would be plural: "The Octopus score!" The plural possessive of octopus in Latin would be octoporum, as in: "Here comes Potter, The Octoporum great new seeker." My *American* dictionary gives both octopuses and octopi as plurals for octopus. Further, it says that octopus is a late coinage based on the *Greek* oktopous, through the Neo-Latin octopod-. Maybe someone on the list can tell us what the the Greek plural for oktopous would be. -Jim (who thinks all this is extremely silly) --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Slytherin_Daughter at y... wrote: > > > People! It's *octopi*! *Octopi*! The multiple of "octopus" > > is "octopi", not "octopuses". Just like "cacti", not "cactuses", > > "hippopotomi", not "hippopotomuses", etc, etc, etc. Why is this so > > hard to grasp? --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > British usage treats the team, whatever its name, as a plural. > In US usage, we vary it depending on the feel of the noun itself. > This is done in a highly irregular manner. For example: > > The Celtics score! but > > Boston scores! > But when you come to team names that are singular--which are a > fairly new phenomenon in the US, but on the rise, particularly in > soccer--things get weird. > > Miami scores! BUT > > The Heat score! > > The name is singular, but you'll often hear the plural verb anyway. > From aiz24 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:14:12 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:14:12 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <9957tn+tcno@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995b8k+rifb@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Following the logic of the second thread cited below, a sports team > called "The Octopus" would be plural: "The Octopus score!" > > The plural possessive of octopus in Latin would be octoporum, as > in: "Here comes Potter, The Octoporum great new seeker." > And don't forget that all these teams play in stadia. I love to nitpick too, but my view of all these words is: they are ENGLISH, not Latin. Nothing wrong with adding a plain old -s or -es. Otherwise it's like insisting (as some people do) that we should pronounce "Mexico" with a Mexican accent. IMO, it's a word in English and I give it an American "x." Grr. Amy Z in Vur-mont, not Vair-mon' From klaatu at primenet.com Mon Mar 19 16:20:36 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:20:36 -0700 Subject: Couple more Swifties Message-ID: More Swifties: "Bill, your hair is too long!" said Mrs. Weasley in a clipped voice. "Those Canary Creams are really tasty," chirped Neville. SML ============================================== Before death takes what has been given to you, you must give away everything you can give. ---Rumi ============================================== From foxmoth at qnet.com Mon Mar 19 16:21:41 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:21:41 -0000 Subject: Stop me before I post again! (SWIFTIES) Message-ID: <995bml+k41q@eGroups.com> "The Post Office comes under the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures," said Hermione owlishly. "Oddly enough, the emblem of our House is an eagle," said Flitwick ravenously. "Tom Swifties are for the birds," said Malfoy cockily. "Go Lions!" yelled the Gryffindors uproariously. "Finish repotting those mandrakes by the end of the period and be sure to return your earmuffs," said Professor Sprout badgeringly. "I'b got a horrible code id by dose," said Sirius snuffily. "You've failed your exam, Longbottom," said Snape impassively. "Draco looks really hot in leather," said Hermione uncanonically. From bray.262 at osu.edu Mon Mar 19 11:24:07 2001 From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:24:07 EST5EDT Subject: Subject: Re: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <985018652.339.56860.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <8FBF9E26E7@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> OK....I read this TOTALLY wrong. I saw "Octopus, octopi, octoPORN" and thought....wow, that's REALLY off-topic, isn't it? *sigh* Geeeez....... Rachel Bray "Excuse me, I don't like people just because they're handsome!" said Hermione indignantly. Ron gave a loud false cough, which sounded oddly like "Lockhart!" From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 19 16:53:20 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:53:20 -0000 Subject: battered octopus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <995di0+qobm@eGroups.com> > Simon: "Because either is correct. It can be octopi or octopuses, and in the context I was using it octopuses worked better."<<< Apparently (according to the OED online) it should be octopodes... but, this can be anglicized to octopuses > Yael: This may sound even crazier than your review, but... Please keep up the lessons... *batters eyelashes in a cute manner*<<< You don't mean that do you? You haven't really covered your eyelashes in a mixture of flour, milk and egg (presumably as a prelude to deep frying) just to get Simon to teach you English by quoting from the OED? And you managed to do it cutely? Wow! -Ben. Who isn't here. And has never had battered octopus. Though octopus in salsa accompanied by vino verdi, eaten sitting on the sea shore when you should be working, is delightful. And suggests 'bats'. "Our hero regains conciousness at the feet of a sarcastic alien" *It seems anglicised has been americanised by the OED, as it _only_ lists the -ize ending. However, all the later (after 1800) quotes cited use -ise. "England Americanises in some respects, in some respects America Anglicises." From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Mon Mar 19 16:55:14 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:55:14 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <9957tn+tcno@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995dli+t42c@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > My *American* dictionary gives both octopuses and octopi as plurals > for octopus. Further, it says that octopus is a late coinage based > on the *Greek* oktopous, through the Neo-Latin octopod-. Maybe > someone on the list can tell us what the the Greek plural for > oktopous would be. Octopodes (Oktopodes). I agree with Amy; we speak English, and 'octopuses' is a perfectly acceptable English plural. 'Octopi' is purposeless prescriptive pedantry (say that five times fast!). Some things may be worth being pedantic about (*English* grammar, for instance), but the formation of correct Latin (Greek) plurals in English just isn't one of those things. It's as silly as becoming incensed with those who say 'the hoi polloi', on the grounds that 'hoi' already means 'the' in Greek. 'hoi polloi' is now a phrase being used in English, and it needs an English definite article. --jen, who also happily uses data as a singular noun :) From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:13:38 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:13:38 -0000 Subject: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff In-Reply-To: <994ti3+7a7d@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995i8i+8sjo@eGroups.com> The one that always sticks out like a sore thumb to me is "math" (as you say). We always say "maths". Given that the full word is mathematics, why do you say math? Wotan. From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:17:18 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:17:18 -0000 Subject: Tom Swiftie In-Reply-To: <015d01c0b00a$d93a1dc0$0f14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <995ife+8smb@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > "Off topic conversations should be sent to OTChatter and all threads backed by JKR or her books, go to HPFGU," Neil repeated canonically. > > *smile* before you go running to your dictionary, it Wotan, it really is a proper adverb. > > Doreen "It ends in 'ly' - that's good enough for me," said Wotan finally. :)) From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:24:15 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:24:15 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <995b8k+rifb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995isf+3amn@eGroups.com> My English dictionary gives octopuses or octopodes as the plural. But I always think one octopus is bad enough news, so I don't worry too much about it when they're team-handed ... Wotan From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 19 19:14:01 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:14:01 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Octopus, octopi, octoporum References: <995b8k+rifb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB65A78.454DA5D2@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > Otherwise it's like insisting (as some people do) that we should > pronounce "Mexico" with a Mexican accent. IMO, it's a word in English > and I give it an American "x." Grr. > > Amy Z > in Vur-mont, not Vair-mon' And how do you pronounce "Illinois"..? --Amanda (little innocent grin) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm a geographer in real life, and in grad school, I taught geology and earth science labs. I told my students that memorization of the states and their geographic locations/relationships wasn't required for the course, but they should expect a bonus question. On my first test, I asked this: Which four states are adjacent to Montana? *One* student got the question completely correct, and she was a native of Germany. Some the real zingers I got were: New Mexico Arizona Illinois Missouri California Kansas Canada (geographically right, but not a state!) Columbia(?) Texas Louisiana What gets me is this was *after* I warned them they'd have a bonus question. B p.s. It's Idaho, Wyoming, & the Dakotas From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 19 19:23:25 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:23:25 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Octopus, octopi, octoporum References: <995dli+t42c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB65CAC.3FF7FEBB@texas.net> Jen wrote: > It's as silly as becoming incensed with those who say 'the hoi > polloi', on the grounds that 'hoi' already means 'the' in Greek. 'hoi > polloi' is now a phrase being used in English, and it needs an English > definite article. What about a favorite of mine, "ATM machines"? Even funnier, because it's an acronym of English, which most people can be expected to know, whereas I don't know just boatloads of people who know that "hoi" is "the" in Greek. > --jen, who also happily uses data as a singular noun :) --Amanda, descriptivist, who does too (except when I'm editing!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 19 19:37:26 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:37:26 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff References: <995i8i+8sjo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB65FF6.A0393836@texas.net> tanwo at hotmail.com wrote: > The one that always sticks out like a sore thumb to me is "math" (as > you say). We always say "maths". Given that the full word is > mathematics, why do you say math? Because we do not think of it as a plural. There is no word "mathematic" except as an adjective. There is no such thing as studying one mathematic. It is a singular word that happens to end with an 's' and which is shortened to math. It's as if we shortened "ellipsis" to "ell." --Amanda, who wants to know if the /th/ in "maths" is voiced or not; it isn't in math. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From moongirlk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 21:04:02 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:04:02 -0000 Subject: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff In-Reply-To: <995i8i+8sjo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995s82+5sk2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > The one that always sticks out like a sore thumb to me is "math" (as > you say). We always say "maths". Given that the full word is > mathematics, why do you say math? > > Wotan. Honestly? Because that was what was written over the classroom door. Seriously, while I can't give you a good reason for why it started, I can tell you that probably the reason it continues is that children hear the word math long before they realize it's short for anything. Kimberly who also didn't know gymnasium when she learned gym, but who was not quite gullible enough to believe the Phys Ed teacher when he said they called it Phys Ed because of him, even if he was named Ed. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Mon Mar 19 21:36:13 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:36:13 -0000 Subject: Stop me before I post again! (SWIFTIES) In-Reply-To: <995bml+k41q@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <995u4d+upnc@eGroups.com> Oh yeah? Two can play that game: "These leather pants are really too warm to wear this time of year," Draco said summerily. "I think that I can help you out," said Fleur, expansively. "There will be no class today," said Snape, impotently. "Oh, no! King Steve is attacking and we have no weapons!" Cassandra said, non-canonically. "The school owls live up in that tower," Ron said, aeriely. "Sorry, we only have Coke," Madam Rosmerta said, dyspeptically. "Draco, those dragon-skin pants will protect you from any kind of attack, except one," Ginnie said, selflessly. -Jim. From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Mon Mar 19 22:12:51 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:12:51 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy (was crosswords) In-Reply-To: <7c.1325eadd.27e7c78c@aol.com> Message-ID: <996093+p3ac@eGroups.com> Watch out, pilgrim, several of the moderators are from The Lone Star State. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., morine10 at a... wrote: > I majored in Geography as well and I now teach middle school. > I once spent an entire period explaining to one of my social > studies classes (6th grade) the difference between continents > and countries. I also had to explain that Texas (regardless > of what Texans may think ) is not a country. Really, > one young man insisted that it was. From hamster8 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 22:17:33 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:17:33 -0000 Subject: April Fool's Jokes . In-Reply-To: <001401c0af93$5d600100$d6e01b3f@rena> Message-ID: <9960ht+fd6f@eGroups.com> In response to Doreen's long and amusing post, I remembered a joke I heard tale of many years ago ... Last time April Fool's Day fell on a Saturday, the people who present the Breakfast Show on London's Capital FM (which includes, sadly, the now infamous Chris Tarrant - responsible for giving Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? to a waiting world) decided it would be very funny if they all came in to work as normal, sent up the Flying Eye (traffic spotting plane) and told everyone it was Friday March 31st. The production team said it would never work - people wouldn't fall for it ... but at seven a.m. on Saturday morning ... ... oh yes they did - rumour has it a systems analyst from Cricklewood drove 25 miles into the city centre, noted the traffic was unusually light, and spent an hour sitting in a deserted office before she realised she'd been had - because when the nice man on the radio says it's Friday, it's Friday. Hook line and sinker! *Al saunters vaguely westwards* From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 22:45:08 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:45:08 -0000 Subject: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff In-Reply-To: <3AB65FF6.A0393836@texas.net> Message-ID: <99625k+g1et@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > Because we do not think of it as a plural. There is no word "mathematic" > except as an adjective. There is no such thing as studying one > mathematic. It is a singular word that happens to end with an 's' and > which is shortened to math. It's as if we shortened "ellipsis" to "ell." > Hmmmm. My dictionary has 'mathematic' as both adjective and substantive. It also indicates that 'mathematics' was originally considered as a plural, but is now considered singular. Perhaps we got 'maths' from the days when it was plural and you got 'math' from the singular days. It also offers 'the higher mathematics' as a modern plural usage. And 'math' is a word in its own right, meaning 'a mowing; the amount of a crop mowed'. > --Amanda, who wants to know if the /th/ in "maths" is voiced or > not; it isn't in math. Experiments with hand in front of mouth proved inconclusive! It seems to be betwixt and between. Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Mon Mar 19 22:46:47 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:46:47 -0000 Subject: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff In-Reply-To: <995s82+5sk2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99628n+atk7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Kimberly" wrote: > who also didn't know gymnasium when she learned gym, but who was not > quite gullible enough to believe the Phys Ed teacher when he said they > called it Phys Ed because of him, even if he was named Ed. Ah, now you see, we say pee-ee! Wotan From nlpnt at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 01:09:28 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:09:28 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <995dli+t42c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <996ak8+eimt@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jen" wrote: > > I agree with Amy; we speak English, and 'octopuses' is a perfectly > acceptable English plural. 'Octopi' is purposeless prescriptive > pedantry (say that five times fast!). > > It's as silly as becoming incensed with those who say 'the hoi > polloi', on the grounds that 'hoi' already means 'the' in Greek. > 'hoi > polloi' is now a phrase being used in English, and it needs > an English definite article. > > --jen, who also happily uses data as a singular noun :) Right. And when was the last time you saw a Ford dealer ad screaming "GREAT SAVINGS ON ALL FOCI AND TAURI IN STOCK!!!!" Actually, proper names and trademarks are a whole area unto themselves. Legitimate trademarks, that is; I won't say that "Ford Focus" has more right to trademarkyness (?) than "Hogwarts", but it does- school names aren't trademarked irl, and JKR didn't bother. Then again, "baked-in" articles (like "the" in "hoi polloi") (mmm, baked hoi polloi....) lead to acronym expressions. Like; "ATM machine"= Automated Teller Machine machine. or "EPS system"= Electronic Payment System system. (Also called a POS system, which when it's working means Point Of Sale system.....when it's working.) From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 02:21:28 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:21:28 -0600 Subject: Tom Swifties Message-ID: <003c01c0b0e4$7b19e2e0$3e14a3d1@doreen> "Watch out for the octopus in the lake!" cried Ron, octagonally. Or should that be octipi? *smile* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 03:45:10 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:45:10 -0000 Subject: LOTR and the Imperius Curse Message-ID: <996jo6+5866@eGroups.com> Betty posted to HPforGU: > While I was reading Lord of > the Rings, a thought crossed my mind that related to GoF. If the > emperius curse had existed in Tolkien's world, which characters would > have been most and least likely to resist it? That is, which characters > would be most likely to be controled by the emperius curse and which > would be most likely to resist it? It's funny that this never struck me before, but the Ring is a lot like the Imperius curse--or the other way around, to give credit where credit is due. So I think we get a good idea of who would resist it best by the way they respond to the temptations of the Ring. -Bilbo is easily controlled. He never does acknowledge to himself how much power the Ring has had over him, nor how it's affected his life (lengthened it and "thinned it out" also). -Frodo is someone whom we see resist it and be controlled by it. As with the Imperius, is this a measure of his own strength of self and will? Frodo is very grounded, in a way that goes beyond pride or humility--like Harry. He knows who he is. I don't think Frodo would be easy to control with the Imperius; you'd have to control him with fear, as the Ring does. -Boromir would be vulnerable to it for the same reasons he's tempted by the Ring: he has a strong need to prove himself, he's proud and envious, he's even a little racist in a really pathetic, jingoistic way (i.e. Men are the worthies, Hobbits laughable). He's one of the most interesting characters IMO (along with his father, Denethor), and he is a good person, but there's a weakness at the core that seems like just the kind of weakness that makes people easy to control with the I.C. -If you're looking at inner strength, I'd say Sam would stand up very well. He, even more than Frodo maybe, knows who he is. He exemplifies what Tolkien sees in the Hobbits--why they are the ones fated to destroy this thing after all its travels amongst humans and elves: they are very simple, grounded folk. Kind of annoyingly bourgeois (all that talk of food and baccy at crucial junctures--I want to shake them and say "will you be serious for ONE SECOND?! this is the fate of the earth we're talking about!"), but the up side of that is that they're very solid. -Gollum is just the opposite of Sam in this way--he's filled with self-hatred and belongs nowhere. (Though he resists the Ring strongly at times, remarkably so considering how long he owned it.) I imagine him resisting the I.C. as he resists the Ring--in irregular bouts, giving in completely at other times. -Aragorn? Yawn. He's such a dull character that I hate to give him any credit. I have to admit he'd probably stand up well to the I.C., though. One of the neat things about LOTR is that no one is so noble as to be immune to the Ring's influence. Gandalf feels it strongly enough to order Frodo not to tempt him. Those who have the best intentions are aware that their wish to use the Ring's power for good ends is their greatest temptation, and one that could bring about their downfall. Off the top of my head, of those whom Frodo offers the Ring or who otherwise have the opportunity to take it, only Galadriel seems untempted. When you know her whole story (i.e. the stuff from the Silmarillion), this is very moving. She's given into evil before, and learned the hard way how to resist it. Kind of like Snape! Now those are two characters I'd never have put together in my head . . . ! I don't know how Snape would hold up against the Imperius, but I'm guessing he would resist it very well. It must have taken incredible strength of will and strength of self, as well as physical courage, to break away from the DEs and Voldemort. Amy Z From catlady at wicca.net Tue Mar 20 04:37:25 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:37:25 -0800 Subject: Octopussies - Hoi Polloi - April Fool Message-ID: <3AB6DE83.6931594C@wicca.net> MC Crusty wrote: > The multiple of "octopus" is "octopi", not "octopuses". I was desperate to reply "It's octopodes", but a whole bunch of people beat me to it. oc-to-po-deees Weird plurals -- the plural of crisis (crice - is) is crises (crice - seas), the plural of basis (base - is) is bases (base -seas), but the same spelling 'bases' (base iz) is the plural of 'base'. Was 'base' back-formed from base- seas? Rachel wrote: > OK....I read this TOTALLY wrong. I saw "Octopus, octopi, octoPORN" I have a book that has a print of a 19th century ink drawing which depicts, with artistic beauty and anatomic explicitness, a Very Large octopus (who does not appear to be disturbed by being out of water) raping an unconscious woman. Jen wrote: > It's as silly as becoming incensed with those who say 'the hoi > polloi', on the grounds that 'hoi' already means 'the' in Greek. Shall we meet at the La Brea Tar Pits? Al (does the handle 'hamster' mean you do ham radio?) wrote: > before she realised she'd been had - because when the nice man on the > radio says it's Friday, it's Friday. My friend Lee tells the story of her holiday in England -- she went to visit the James Clerk Maxwell Museum and the ticket-taker told her that it was closed, it is only open on Tuesday and Thursday, and she said "But today is Thursday!" and the man said it wasn't.... she happened to have picked up a copy of the TIMES and showed him the masthead "See, the paper says it's Thursday". The man admitted that the TIMES can't be wrong and said "Oh my god, I turned away three other couples already today!" BTW, does anyone know the ethnicity of the surname Hooch? Maybe Irish? -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 04:44:18 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:44:18 -0000 Subject: Texans (was geographical literacy) In-Reply-To: <996093+p3ac@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <996n72+5mcs@eGroups.com> > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., morine10 at a... wrote: >I also had to explain that Texas (regardless > > of what Texans may think ) is not a country. Really, > > one young man insisted that it was. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Watch out, pilgrim, several of the moderators are from The Lone Star > State. If Mo disappears mysteriously, we'll know who to suspect. (And we'll know to look for her body under the Alamo.) Vermont also used to be a Republic, and it's in our state constitution that every so many years, we have to vote on whether to remain in the Union. As if anyone would care or notice if we seceded. Maple prices would skyrocket, that's about it. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 04:47:31 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:47:31 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum, androidus In-Reply-To: <995dli+t42c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <996nd3+ft3l@eGroups.com> > --jen, who also happily uses data as a singular noun :) Well, naturally. There's only one Data. ;-) Amy From kathleen at carr.org Tue Mar 20 03:12:43 2001 From: kathleen at carr.org (Kathleen Kelly MacMillan) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:12:43 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] LOTR and the Imperius Curse Message-ID: <200103200450.f2K4o3604356@ccpl.carr.org> >-If you're looking at inner strength, I'd say Sam would stand up very >well. He, even more than Frodo maybe, knows who he is. Yeah he does! Oh, I love Sam (could you guess?). I'm finding this whole LOTR thread fascinating. Unfortunately I'm way too tired to add anything other than a feeble "woohoo" at the moment, but let me sleep up and I'll come up with something brilliant tomorrow...maybe... :) Kathy AKA Elanor Gamgee From morine10 at aol.com Tue Mar 20 05:34:14 2001 From: morine10 at aol.com (morine10 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:34:14 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Texans (was geographical literacy) Message-ID: <7e.126f76ce.27e845d6@aol.com> In a message dated 3/19/01 11:45:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, aiz24 at hotmail.com writes: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., morine10 at a... wrote: > >I also had to explain that Texas (regardless > > > of what Texans may think ) is not a country. Really, > > > one young man insisted that it was. > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > > Watch out, pilgrim, several of the moderators are from The Lone Star > > State. > > If Mo disappears mysteriously, we'll know who to suspect. (And we'll > know to look for her body under the Alamo.) > I've let my friends know to look for me there.....in the basement. > Vermont also used to be a Republic, and it's in our state constitution > that every so many years, we have to vote on whether to remain in the > Union. As if anyone would care or notice if we seceded. Maple prices > would skyrocket, that's about it. > Well, since we're sharing info about our home states I'll throw in my two knuts about Delaware, the First State* to sign the Constitution. And that's not just a horse on our quarter - it's Caesar Rodney, a founding father, who rode from the capital in Dover to Philadelphia to cast his vote to declare independence in July of 1776. 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And being in Ender's head reminded me a lot of being in Harry's head at the end of Goblet of Fire -- the little kid that the world is depending upon to be a savior, and the terrible price he pays. SML ============================================== Before death takes what has been given to you, you must give away everything you can give. ---Rumi ============================================== From Schlobin at aol.com Tue Mar 20 07:06:51 2001 From: Schlobin at aol.com (Schlobin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:06:51 -0000 Subject: where did the transcripts go/ In-Reply-To: <992vu0+vpb5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <996vib+7m4h@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rita Winston" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Schlobin at a... wrote: > > Where did transcripts of interviews/chats with JKR go? > > Does your question mean that the ones that were posted were deleted > for copyright reasons? Or are you asking to which HPfGU list to > mail a transcript? > > Steve Van der Ark's Lexicon has links to the latest JKR chat: > http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/site_sources.html > http://www.comicrelief.com/harrysbooks/pages/transcript.shtml Rita, et al. Sorry, I've been gone for two months. But, we used to have posted transcripts of chats or interviews from various places. Were they deleted? Susan From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 07:16:24 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:16:24 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Octopus, octopi, octoporum ... Illinois References: <995b8k+rifb@eGroups.com> <3AB65A78.454DA5D2@texas.net> Message-ID: <006401c0b10d$ad0a52c0$8914a3d1@doreen> And how do you pronounce "Illinois"..? --Amanda (little innocent grin) Now you are stepping into my territory. Having lived most of my life in Illinois, anyone from there will tell you that it is pronounced, "ILL - IN - OY" One easy way to spot the furiners. Now that I live in Iowa, I find the same problem with people saying, "Des Moines." To make matters worse, Iowa has a town called, "Tripoli" which, for some odd reason, they pronounce as, "trip - OH - lah" and they pronounce the Iowa college of "Buena Vista" as "BUNA VISTAH" (with a long U) We don't even want to get into the jewelry/nuclear discussion. Doreen, who cringes often in Iowa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwm at nucleus.com Tue Mar 20 07:38:03 2001 From: cwm at nucleus.com (Bandy) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:38:03 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Octopus, octopi, octoporum ... Illinois References: <995b8k+rifb@eGroups.com> <3AB65A78.454DA5D2@texas.net> <006401c0b10d$ad0a52c0$8914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <001801c0b110$b2a7ac20$f5a573d1@default> Try this one...............Saskatoon, Saskatchewan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 07:40:30 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:40:30 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: April Fool's Jokes . References: <9960ht+fd6f@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <008e01c0b111$0aef7700$8914a3d1@doreen> Last time April Fool's Day fell on a Saturday, the people who present the Breakfast Show on London's Capital FM (which includes, sadly, the now infamous Chris Tarrant - responsible for giving Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? to a waiting world) decided it would be very funny if they all came in to work as normal, sent up the Flying Eye (traffic spotting plane) and told everyone it was Friday March 31st. The production team said it would never work - people wouldn't fall for it ... but at seven a.m. on Saturday morning ... ... oh yes they did - rumour has it a systems analyst from Cricklewood drove 25 miles into the city centre, noted the traffic was unusually light, and spent an hour sitting in a deserted office before she realised she'd been had - because when the nice man on the radio says it's Friday, it's Friday. Hook line and sinker! *Al saunters vaguely westwards* Reminiscent of Orson Welles, isn't it? That is really funny! One of my teachers played an April Fool's joke on my classmate. He had the boy leave on an errand; told us he was going to tell a joke when the boy came back and that we were to laugh when he said, "Jeronimo." The boy came back, he told the joke with the Jeronimo line, we laughed, the boy stood there, looking totally confused, we laughed even more. The teacher repeated the joke... we were on the floor by now... finally the teacher let him off the hook by explaining. Doreen From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:57:36 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:57:36 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: battered octopus References: <995di0+qobm@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Yael: This may sound even crazier than your review, but... Please keep up the lessons... *batters eyelashes in a cute manner*<<< Ben: "You don't mean that do you? You haven't really covered your eyelashes in a mixture of flour, milk and egg (presumably as a prelude to deep frying) just to get Simon to teach you English by quoting from the OED? And you managed to do it cutely? Wow!" 1. Yes I have. 2. This was only to demonstrate how badly i need those lessons, which Simon seemed to catch, since he double-checed () his mail afterwards. :) 3. 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URL: From naama_gat at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:55:47 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:55:47 -0000 Subject: LOTR and the Imperius Curse In-Reply-To: <996jo6+5866@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9972e3+2733@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Betty posted to HPforGU: > > > While I was reading Lord of > > the Rings, a thought crossed my mind that related to GoF. If the > > emperius curse had existed in Tolkien's world, which characters > would > > have been most and least likely to resist it? That is, which > characters > > would be most likely to be controled by the emperius curse and which > > would be most likely to resist it? > > It's funny that this never struck me before, but the Ring is a lot > like the Imperius curse--or the other way around, to give credit where > credit is due. So I think we get a good idea of who would resist it > best by the way they respond to the temptations of the Ring. > > -Bilbo is easily controlled. He never does acknowledge to himself how > much power the Ring has had over him, nor how it's affected his life > (lengthened it and "thinned it out" also). BUT - he was the only one who gave up the ring of his own free will, remember? Gandalf said that, with admiration. Bilbo had it the longest of all the other characters (except Gollum) so the ring most affected his life, but my impression was that he resisted it's domination more than the others. Interesting thread, BTW. I never thought of the similarities between the ring and the Imperius curse. I'm going to think some more about it, especially about the differences. Naama From s_ings at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 11:22:11 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <7c.1325eadd.27e7c78c@aol.com> Message-ID: <20010320112211.24804.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> --- morine10 at aol.com wrote: > I hear you B! Americans > are geographically > deficient. > > I majored in Geography as well and I now teach > middle school. I once spent > an entire period explaining to one of my social > studies classes (6th grade) > the difference between continents and countries. I > also had to explain that > Texas (regardless of what Texans may think ) is > not a country. Really, > one young man insisted that it was. > > ~Mo Residents of the province of Quebec also believe they live in a separate country, hence the whole idea of Quebec separating from the rest of Canada. Seems they don't think the rest of us recognize their distinctly different heritage. Hmmmmm, maybe the fact that they speak a different language would be a bit of a giveaway , just for starters . Incidentally, how would you all pronounce Quebec? I say Kay-bec, but then I also speak French. Sheryll Pop quiz: The capital of Canada is_________________. ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From finnan at kvvi.net Tue Mar 20 12:09:28 2001 From: finnan at kvvi.net (finnan at kvvi.net) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:09:28 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <20010320112211.24804.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Residents of the province of Quebec also believe they > live in a separate country, hence the whole idea of > Quebec separating from the rest of Canada. Seems they > don't think the rest of us recognize their distinctly > different heritage. Hmmmmm, maybe the fact that they > speak a different language would be a bit of a > giveaway , just for starters . Incidentally, how > would you all pronounce Quebec? I say Kay-bec, but > then I also speak French. > > Sheryll Pop quiz: The capital of Canada is Ottawa. (of course) What else is it supposed to be? Well, I've been a lurker for a while, but it's time to come into the open for me. Living about an hour drive from Montreal (but in the US), I can say I visit often. Many people of Quebec definitely think they live in a separate country and a few still resent English speakers (or speaking/attemping to speak with a very bad accent). I say Kay-bec also, but I commonly hear it said with a very hard K sound. ElvenWren From bbennett at joymail.com Tue Mar 20 12:41:10 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:41:10 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <20010320112211.24804.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <997j56+42m7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Sheryll Townsend wrote: > Residents of the province of Quebec also believe they > live in a separate country, hence the whole idea of > Quebec separating from the rest of Canada. Seems they > don't think the rest of us recognize their distinctly > different heritage. Hmmmmm, maybe the fact that they > speak a different language would be a bit of a > giveaway , just for starters . Incidentally, how > would you all pronounce Quebec? I say Kay-bec, but > then I also speak French. > > Sheryll I think most Americans say "KWa'bek". I started trying to teach myself French recently, and I was amazed to find out how words were actually supposed to sound :*) Then I tried ordering a kwa-son(t), and the counter person just stared at me until I blushed and asked for a "kresont" (croissant). B, Kentucky native, where we have Layfette (La FAY et) Versailles (Ver SAILS) Cairo, IL (CAY roe) Vienna, IL (Vie ANN a) Hey, if you've never heard them spoken, these aren't really such a bad guess... From pbnesbit at msn.com Tue Mar 20 13:02:06 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:02:06 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <997j56+42m7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <997kce+i19v@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > > B, Kentucky native, where we have > Layfette (La FAY et) > Versailles (Ver SAILS) > Cairo, IL (CAY roe) > Vienna, IL (Vie ANN a) > > Hey, if you've never heard them spoken, these aren't really such a > bad guess... Too true, B :waves at fellow Kentuckian: Even now, I still have to stop myself when I'm talking about those particular cities and pronounce them the way they would there--I want to pronounce them the way they *should* be pronounced I live in Charleston, SC & the accent here (at least among the natives) is to say the least, interesting. Charleston is Chahston Cooper is Kupper (it's the river that, along with the Ashley, flows together to form the Atlantic Ocean, according to Charlestonians) Geography question: What's the capitol of Kentucky? Peace & Plenty, Parker PS: B, where are you from? I'm from Murray. From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 20 13:32:49 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:32:49 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Geographical literacy References: <20010320112211.24804.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AB75C00.A8557C13@texas.net> Sheryll Townsend wrote: > Incidentally, how would you all pronounce Quebec? I say Kay-bec, but > then I also speak French. Speaking to other Texans, I'd say /KWUH-bek/. In Quebec itself, surrounded by Quebecois (is that how you spell it? I've forgotten), I'd say /KEH-bek/. > Pop quiz: The capital of Canada is_________________. ..probably a lot more pleasant in the summer than Texas. ..up Nawth, ain't it? ..full of people who don't say "y'all." ..way, waaay too far from any decent Tex-Mex food. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 13:42:51 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:42:51 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Geographical literacy References: <997j56+42m7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <001701c0b143$a9488040$8914a3d1@doreen> Sheryll Townsend wrote: I think most Americans say "KWa'bek". I started trying to teach myself French recently, and I was amazed to find out how words were actually supposed to sound :*) Then I tried ordering a kwa-son(t), and the counter person just stared at me until I blushed and asked for a "kresont" (croissant). B, Kentucky native, where we have Layfette (La FAY et) Versailles (Ver SAILS) Cairo, IL (CAY roe) Venna, IL (Vie ANN a) Hey, if you've never heard them spoken, these aren't really such a bad guess... Doreen says: I am a waitress and I have to endure, "KROYS - ants","fish FILL - etts" and "DACK -oo -rees" From moongirlk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 13:47:13 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:47:13 -0000 Subject: Octopus, octopi, octoporum In-Reply-To: <996ak8+eimt@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <997n11+dib2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., nlpnt at y... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jen" wrote: > > > > I agree with Amy; we speak English, and 'octopuses' is a perfectly > > acceptable English plural. 'Octopi' is purposeless prescriptive > > pedantry (say that five times fast!). > > > It's as silly as becoming incensed with those who say 'the hoi > > polloi', on the grounds that 'hoi' already means 'the' in Greek. > > 'hoi > > polloi' is now a phrase being used in English, and it needs > > an English definite article. > > > > --jen, who also happily uses data as a singular noun :) > > > Right. And when was the last time you saw a Ford dealer ad > screaming "GREAT SAVINGS ON ALL FOCI AND TAURI IN STOCK!!!!" > Actually, proper names and trademarks are a whole area unto > themselves. Legitimate trademarks, that is; I won't say that "Ford > Focus" has more right to trademarkyness (?) than "Hogwarts", but it > does- school names aren't trademarked irl, and JKR didn't bother. > > Then again, "baked-in" articles (like "the" in "hoi polloi") (mmm, > baked hoi polloi....) lead to acronym expressions. Like; > > "ATM machine"= Automated Teller Machine machine. > or > "EPS system"= Electronic Payment System system. (Also called a POS > system, which when it's working means Point Of Sale system.....when > it's working.) Heh! Let me add to that the company I work for - CPI Corp. Which stands for Consumer Programs (or Products, depending on who you ask) Incorporated Corporation, which I've always thought sounded lovely! And by the way, we've got a POS system for you... ;) kimberly kimberly From bbennett at joymail.com Tue Mar 20 14:21:46 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:21:46 -0000 Subject: Kentucky and geography In-Reply-To: <997kce+i19v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <997p1q+6led@eGroups.com> > PS: B, where are you from? I'm from Murray. No freakin' way! I'm from Paducah, and I went to college at Murray! You'll appreciate this: my birthday was yesterday, and a friend asked what kind of cake I wanted. Feeling kind of homesick, I said I wanted the strawberry cake that Dumplin's in Murray makes. He had me describe it, and then he figured out how to make it and surprised me! Wow, you're from Murray. Very cool :*) B From bbennett at joymail.com Tue Mar 20 14:24:12 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:24:12 -0000 Subject: geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <001701c0b143$a9488040$8914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <997p6c+b407@eGroups.com> > Doreen says: > > I am a waitress and I have to endure, "KROYS - ants","fish FILL - etts" and "DACK -oo -rees" I personally love hearing someone order "KAY-su-DILL'as". But again, if you've never heard it spoken and aren't familiar with Spanish... B From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 14:41:54 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:41:54 -0000 Subject: London Meeting, catch up....... Message-ID: <997q7i+cl6t@eGroups.com> Good grief. It took me sooo long to catch up on THIS list I'm scared of the other. The London meeting was FANTASTIC. I had a blast. I hope the rest of you got your candies and dowels, and not just Neil (I made dowel- wands and gave them as silly gifts! The real gift was the glass.) Anyways, I'll be posting... Cheers all Heather From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 20 14:47:00 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:47:00 -0000 Subject: London Meeting, catch up....... In-Reply-To: <997q7i+cl6t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <997qh4+rpfp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > Good grief. It took me sooo long to catch up on THIS list I'm scared > of the other. > > The London meeting was FANTASTIC. I had a blast. I hope the rest of > you got your candies and dowels, and not just Neil (I made dowel- > wands and gave them as silly gifts! The real gift was the glass.) > > Anyways, I'll be posting... Yes they have arrived. They got here yesterday. Thanks for them. I have been eating thr sweets for most of today, while looking at the snow and working out what I do about dinner as I have no food and do not want to go out. Do we get to see the pgotos soon? Simon From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 15:04:37 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:04:37 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: geographical literacy References: <997p6c+b407@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <006101c0b14f$15ea8e40$8914a3d1@doreen> > Doreen says: > > I am a waitress and I have to endure, "KROYS - ants","fish FILL - etts" and "DACK -oo -rees" I personally love hearing someone order "KAY-su-DILL'as". But again, if you've never heard it spoken and aren't familiar with Spanish... B My mom would get a giggle from that one! Never assume that just because you are a patron IN a Mexican restaurant that all of the employees have a grasp of the language or just because you know a few words that you are by any means fluent enough to speak it in public. It also helps to be aware of all of the menu choices. These may not seem like important life lessons, but they can prevent you from the embarrassment I went through. My mom and I ate at a Mexican restaurant. She ordered the pasta dish that we both agreed sounded delicious. When the waitress asked me for my order, I smugly said, "Dos." Much to my surprise and my mother's obvious amusement, she was served the pasta dish and I was served the menu item called, "Dos". Dos tasted a LOT like crow. This all just goes to prove that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Doreen To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From voicelady at mymailstation.com Tue Mar 20 15:30:36 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 20 Mar 2001 07:30:36 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Ender's Game Message-ID: <20010320153036.13609.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From foxmoth at qnet.com Tue Mar 20 16:49:33 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:49:33 -0000 Subject: Aragorn is *not* dull was Re: LOTR and the Imperius Curse In-Reply-To: <996jo6+5866@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9981mt+qhm4@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Betty posted to HPforGU: > > > While I was reading Lord of > > the Rings, a thought crossed my mind that related to GoF. If the > > emperius curse had existed in Tolkien's world, which characters > would > > have been most and least likely to resist it? That is, which > characters > > would be most likely to be controled by the emperius curse and which >snip< > -Aragorn? Yawn. He's such a dull character that I hate to give him > any credit. I have to admit he'd probably stand up well to the I.C., > though. You're talking about the man I love1 Seriously, though, you're underating Tolkien if you think Aragorn is dull. The Hobbits think he's perfect, but he isn't, and in fact he comes far closer to being corrupted by the Ring than they ever realize. We never see him tempted to take the Ring for himself, and he would *never* abandon the Quest...or would he? For his quest is marked by his given word, and his word is given not to Frodo, but to Boromir. "I will come to Minas Tirith" he says, (The Fellowship of the Ring, Book 2, Chapter 2) and yet in chapter 10 he appoints himself to accompany Frodo to Mordor instead. He may not (yet) desire the Ring for himself but it is already corrupting his judgement. This decision has grave consequences for Boromir, since it leaves him facing the possibility of returning to Minas Tirith with nothing more to show for his quest than a golden belt and a couple of feckless Hobbits, when he had thought to bring the Sword of Elendil, which he was commanded to seek. It's no wonder he cracks. Aragorn's anguished cry, "It is I that have failed." is not guilt- tripping. It is a sincere acknowledgement of fault, and he spends the rest of the book (and a healthy chunk of the appendix) trying to defeat the condescension that is the downside of his nobility. It's a slow, painful process and entails a lot of anguish. There's a lot of Percy, and even a little Snape in Aragorn, but you have to look for it. Pippin From old_wych at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 17:25:52 2001 From: old_wych at yahoo.com (A B) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:25:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Quebec In-Reply-To: <985102251.12615.75086.l6@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20010320172552.2380.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, this resident of Quebec thinks she lives in a country called Canada. But then I'm an anglophone and an immigrant to boot. FWIW my husband is a Quebecois "pure laine" (meaning he traces his family tree back to the original Frnch-speaking colonists) and he'd tell you he lives in Canada, too, and Quebec is merely a province among 10 others. Despite what Bernard Landry would like everyone to think, not all Franc-speaking Quebeckers think the same as he does. Anne (who says "kwa-BECK" when she's speaking English and "kay-BEC" when she's speaking French). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 20 19:04:12 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:04:12 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: geographical literacy References: <997p6c+b407@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB7A9AC.671A8124@texas.net> bbennett at joymail.com wrote: > I personally love hearing someone order "KAY-su-DILL'as". But again, > if you've never heard it spoken and aren't familiar with Spanish... I personally feel that my relationship with my then-intended's father (we never did get married) was permanently marred when I laughed when he called a certain motel a "La /KWIN-tah/". I thought he was joking. --Amanda, who actually has heard /ta-MALES/ (two syllables) for tamales, too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From foxmoth at qnet.com Tue Mar 20 19:33:47 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:33:47 -0000 Subject: geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <3AB7A9AC.671A8124@texas.net> Message-ID: <998bar+fsj7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > bbennett at j... wrote: > > > I personally love hearing someone order "KAY-su-DILL'as". But again, > > if you've never heard it spoken and aren't familiar with Spanish... > > I personally feel that my relationship with my then-intended's father > (we never did get married) was permanently marred when I laughed when he > called a certain motel a "La /KWIN-tah/". I thought he was joking. > > --Amanda, who actually has heard /ta-MALES/ (two syllables) for tamales, > too. My mother-in-law, a Texas native(!) came out here to California and told me she wanted to visit some friends of hers in "La JALL -a" which is spelled La Jolla and pronounced /La HOY-a/ I think I've already mentioned my confusion over /San WAH-keen/ and San Joaquin. For a couple of years I had no idea they were the same place. Pippin (born in Illinois, natch) From editor at texas.net Tue Mar 20 19:33:57 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:33:57 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: battered octopus References: <995di0+qobm@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB7B0A5.60B05159@texas.net> Now that I've cheerfully dived into this thread and tangled it up a bit, could someone tell me what the heck we're talking about? How did we light upon octopodes? --Amanda (never let confusion keep you from having an opinion!) From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 20:05:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:05:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: geographical literacy References: <997p6c+b407@eGroups.com> <3AB7A9AC.671A8124@texas.net> Message-ID: <012d01c0b179$16ca74e0$8914a3d1@doreen> I personally feel that my relationship with my then-intended's father (we never did get married) was permanently marred when I laughed when he called a certain motel a "La /KWIN-tah/". I thought he was joking. --Amanda, who actually has heard /ta-MALES/ (two syllables) for tamales, too. My ex-mother-in-law was more forgiving than your intended father-in-law when she said, "Oh, there is a MER - deez BEENZ!" I must have flashed her a "no clue" look, because it dawned on her that that was not right. When she told me my father-in-law had told her that, I understood. The word, "git" defines him perfectly. Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Tue Mar 20 20:19:36 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:19:36 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: geographical literacy References: <998bar+fsj7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <013d01c0b17b$166b5300$8914a3d1@doreen> > > I personally love hearing someone order "KAY-su-DILL'as". But again, > > if you've never heard it spoken and aren't familiar with Spanish... > > I personally feel that my relationship with my then-intended's father > (we never did get married) was permanently marred when I laughed when he > called a certain motel a "La /KWIN-tah/". I thought he was joking. > > --Amanda, who actually has heard /ta-MALES/ (two syllables) for tamales, > too. My mother-in-law, a Texas native(!) came out here to California and told me she wanted to visit some friends of hers in "La JALL -a" which is spelled La Jolla and pronounced /La HOY-a/ I think I've already mentioned my confusion over /San WAH-keen/ and San Joaquin. For a couple of years I had no idea they were the same place. Pippin (born in Illinois, natch) I still cringe whenever the Jose Cole Circus comes to town. I was in the JAYCEE's and was in charge of making the poster for the circus. I did a reverse on what we have been talking about. I made a poster saying, "Don't Miss the Hose Cole Circus!" This might not have been all that funny or embarrassing if not for the fact that all the JAYCEES and the Circus people had a big party after the circus each year. All night long, everyone kept calling him Hose or Hose Cole. Doreen To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From yael_pou at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 21:03:32 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:03:32 +0200 Subject: why battered octopus References: <995di0+qobm@eGroups.com> <3AB7B0A5.60B05159@texas.net> Message-ID: Amanda: "Now that I've cheerfully dived into this thread and tangled it up a bit, could someone tell me what the heck we're talking about? How did we light upon octopodes?" Oh, this had all started when Simon posted a review for my fic. The entire review was "Gargle Octopuses", which i found odd enough to ask him about, over the HP_FanFiction group. Emily found this annoying enough to comment (the plural form of octopus) and from there, it had all turned to chaos. I've been trying to foment this thread since, and now, will someone *please* correct the tenses in this mail? :) Thanks, yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 20 20:32:06 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:32:06 -0000 Subject: battered octopus In-Reply-To: <3AB7B0A5.60B05159@texas.net> Message-ID: <998eo6+jdb6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Now that I've cheerfully dived into this thread and tangled it up a bit, > could someone tell me what the heck we're talking about? How did we > light upon octopodes? > > --Amanda (never let confusion keep you from having an opinion!) I believe it all started when I gave yael the massively helpful review for Krum Do I Love part 8. This review was: Gargle Octopuses. We then got onto octopuses/octopi and from there is was down hill and onto octoporn. Should I say anymore? Simon From ryndavis10 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 21:59:51 2001 From: ryndavis10 at yahoo.com (Ryan Davis) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:59:51 -0000 Subject: Other Potter type books Message-ID: <998jsn+95r5@eGroups.com> While reading HP it seemed as though it reminded me of another book I read some time ago. I live in America so this may be an outsider's relation. I was give two of the Adrian Mole diaries back in High School. I loved these books. I have not read them in quite a while and would love to read them again. I read the first and second one and would love to hear that Townsend has written more. Has anyone else read the Adrian Mole books? Ryan Davis From aichambaye at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 22:11:11 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:11:11 -0000 Subject: London Meeting photos Message-ID: <998khv+csqh@eGroups.com> Not any time soon, sorry. I have to get them developed then scan them, and i don't know when that will happen! Heather From lj2d30 at gateway.net Tue Mar 20 22:40:31 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:40:31 -0000 Subject: ... Illinois & names In-Reply-To: <006401c0b10d$ad0a52c0$8914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <998m8v+jif6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > And how do you pronounce "Illinois"..? > > --Amanda (little innocent grin) > > Now you are stepping into my territory. Having lived most of my life in Illinois, anyone from there will tell you that it is pronounced, "ILL - IN - OY" One easy way to spot the furiners. Not necessarily! I'm an Illini too and the people in my hometown often said they were from "Warshington, Illinoiz" which irritated me no end. Where is the R in Washington? There is also another little town called Metamora (pronounced just as it looks) but the inhabitants of which called it "Mat-a-more." Trina, bleeding Orange and Blue and very proud of the Fightin' Illini right now! From simon at hp.inbox.as Tue Mar 20 22:07:30 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:07:30 -0000 Subject: Other Potter type books In-Reply-To: <998jsn+95r5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <998kb2+qs35@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ryan Davis" wrote: > While reading HP it seemed as though it reminded me of another book I > read some time ago. I live in America so this may be an outsider's > relation. I was give two of the Adrian Mole diaries back in High > School. I loved these books. I have not read them in quite a while > and would love to read them again. I read the first and second one > and would love to hear that Townsend has written more. Has anyone > else read the Adrian Mole books? There are a few others in the series. I read the latest (the Cappuccino Years) a few weeks back and it was quite funny. IIRC it is the sixth book in the series. I can't quite see the link to HP, but have not read any of the first few in quite a few years (like it was over ten years ago). Simon From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 20 22:56:46 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:56:46 -0000 Subject: ... Illinois & names In-Reply-To: <998m8v+jif6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <998n7e+rjao@eGroups.com> Trina mouthed off: > Trina, bleeding Orange and Blue and very proud of the Fightin' > Illini right now! Oh yeah? Well MY school (Arizona) is going to show you! Nyah nyah nyah. :P Hehehe... just kidding (well, okay... *half* kidding... March Madness brings out the best in the teams, worst in the fans, doesn't it?) To get this back on "off-topic", I spent a summer at Harvard while I was in High School, and there was an organized outing to Faneuil Hall in the middle of my stay. I was SO excited... I'd read such great things about it... and I was pronouncing just like you would in French... (unfortunately, I can't think of a way to write it "phonetically"... "fahn - oeil" is the closest I can get to, and that's using another French word!) Imagine my disappointment when I learned that everyone else in Boston calls it "Faniel" like Daniel. Ugh. Jen (a resident of the san wahkeen valley... oh, and I LOLed when I read about the "taMALES" (two syllables). Are there any taFemales?) :) From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 20 23:08:11 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:08:11 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <997kce+i19v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <998nss+bphp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > Too true, B :waves at fellow Kentuckian: Even now, I still have to > stop myself when I'm talking about those particular cities and > pronounce them the way they would there--I want to pronounce them > the way they *should* be pronounced Garrard comes to mind. Regarding the Quebec-issue, Norwegians are taught Kwie-beck, but in US highschool, I was taught to pronounce it Keh-bec. From Kentucky, I also remmeber that 'l's sometimes had an unfortunate tendency to disappear (leading me to wonder what a gopher was when they were talking about golfers on the carride from Bluegrass Airport - to which I had gotten from Norway via Newark and Detroit). > I live in Charleston, SC & the accent here (at least among the > natives) is to say the least, interesting. > Charleston is Chahston > Cooper is Kupper (it's the river that, along with the Ashley, flows > together to form the Atlantic Ocean, according to Charlestonians) > > Geography question: What's the capitol of Kentucky? Frankfort, obviously. What is this thing that all former colonies of the United Kingdom have for capitals? They never seem ready to accept using an exisiting city for their capital - instead they construct an all new city; preferably in the middle of nowhere, and it ends up being populated exclusively by politicians, lobbyists, journalists, generals and other bums. Not to forget an unusually snotty police-service! > Peace & Plenty, > > Parker > > PS: B, where are you from? I'm from Murray. Best regards Christian Stub? (who's never had funnel-cake, and who's just watched "James Bond: With a View to a Kill" - that female heroine was just a bit to much of a damsel in distress at times (not to mention that she overdrew her account of tiems she's allowed to say "Oh, James!")) From aiz24 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 20 23:33:17 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:33:17 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <001701c0b143$a9488040$8914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <998pbt+dmq3@eGroups.com> B, Kentucky native, where we have > Layfette (La FAY et) > Versailles (Ver SAILS) > Cairo, IL (CAY roe) > Venna, IL (Vie ANN a) Two years ago a Senate candidate in Vermont, who was viewed very suspiciously as a carpetbagger (he mostly lived in Massachusetts), was asked by a caller to an on-air interview to pronounce Vermont towns like Calais (callous--I know, that's how the English say it too) and Charlotte (shar-LOT). He lost the primary to an 80+ year old dairy farmer who'd become famous as the star of a locally-made movie about an 80+ year old dairy farmer who runs for Congress so as to get health insurance. I'm not sure if the pronunciation quiz was the turning point, but it probably swayed a few voters. ;-) Amy Z From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 00:05:44 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:05:44 -0000 Subject: NCAA Touney (was Illinois....) In-Reply-To: <998n7e+rjao@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <998r8o+6ngp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" wrote: > Trina mouthed off: > > > Trina, bleeding Orange and Blue and very proud of the Fightin' > > Illini right now! > > Oh yeah? Well MY school (Arizona) is going to show you! Nyah nyah > nyah. :P > > Hehehe... just kidding (well, okay... *half* kidding... March Madness > brings out the best in the teams, worst in the fans, doesn't it?) Well, I'm dying here in North Carolina as I bleed Carolina blue, and was horrified and sickened to learn of our defeat whilst I was in England (I feel like a traitor for not watching that game. I watched the Duke - UNC games from the top of my coffee table - but anyway)... Luckily, I'm an Arizona alum and so I can at least say BEAR DOWN ARIZONA, BEAR DOWN! Heather M, jet lagged like you wouldn't believe, is it only 7 pm? From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Wed Mar 21 02:01:39 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:01:39 -0000 Subject: London Meeting, catch up....... In-Reply-To: <997q7i+cl6t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <999223+66n8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > The London meeting was FANTASTIC. I had a blast. I hope the rest of > you got your candies and dowels, and not just Neil (I made dowel- > wands and gave them as silly gifts! The real gift was the glass.) > > Anyways, I'll be posting... > > Cheers all > Heather Like Simon, mine were delivered yesterday courtesey of Royal Mail. It snowed here today as well but didn't settle, rather it turned to vicious hail just as I was cycling to work and so I caned it all the way and arrived barely able to breathe.... Anyway, thanks for those Heather, my twig now has pride of place on display underneath a pile of papers next to my stereo (which is now playing Closing Time by Semisonic, speaking of which it's time I closed down, being 2am with 9:00 lectures tomorrow (or rather today in 7 hours time)). Dai From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 03:04:17 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:04:17 -0000 Subject: London Meeting, catch up....... In-Reply-To: <999223+66n8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9995nh+r3fd@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Dai Evans" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > The London meeting was FANTASTIC. I had a blast. I hope the rest of > > you got your candies and dowels, and not just Neil (I made dowel- > > wands and gave them as silly gifts! The real gift was the glass.) > > > > Anyways, I'll be posting... > > > > Cheers all > > Heather > > Like Simon, mine were delivered yesterday courtesey of Royal Mail. It > snowed here today as well but didn't settle, rather it turned to > vicious hail just as I was cycling to work and so I caned it all the > way and arrived barely able to breathe.... Anyway, thanks for those > Heather, my twig now has pride of place on display underneath a pile > of papers next to my stereo (which is now playing Closing Time by > Semisonic, speaking of which it's time I closed down, being 2am with > 9:00 lectures tomorrow (or rather today in 7 hours time)). > > > > Dai Good. Did you try the candy? I've got four or five of those twigs lying around. What would a wand-maker be without spares? Oh and, I'm going to post a picture of you in your bath sheet. I mean, your cloak. :-) Heather M., who is still on London time and it drained at 10 pm, much to her absolute disgust. From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 04:23:29 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:23:29 -0000 Subject: London Meeting (time) and Basketball In-Reply-To: <9995nh+r3fd@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <999ac1+m5t3@eGroups.com> "Good. Did you try the candy? I've got four or five of those twigs lying around. What would a wand-maker be without spares? Oh and, I'm going to post a picture of you in your bath sheet. I mean, your cloak. :-) "Heather M., who is still on London time and it drained at 10 pm, much to her absolute disgust." --Ohhh you made wands?!?! That is just to neat....I want one, or at least intructions on how to make one myself! I can relate to jet-lag and believe me it is MUCH worse to lose hours than it is to gain them. I've found that out from personal experience. Sorry you're team lost (waves to another North Carolinian on the list. Hi!) But look at the bright side, Duke's still playing! I'll confess that I've never been to big on Basketball, so I don't get the whole excitement, but having so many teams from your home state does make it more exciting.... Scott From pbnesbit at msn.com Wed Mar 21 04:30:56 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:30:56 -0000 Subject: Wands (was: Re: London Meeting (time) and Basketball In-Reply-To: <999ac1+m5t3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <999aq0+g22o@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > > > > --Ohhh you made wands?!?! That is just to neat....I want one, or at > least intructions on how to make one myself! My darling husband, the carpenter, asked me if I wanted a wand. When he makes me one, I'll post instructions. > > > Scott Parker (who's husband is fast becoming obsessed with Harry Potter: the other day he wanted to hex someone!) From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 04:33:45 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 04:33:45 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <001701c0b143$a9488040$8914a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <999av9+pov8@eGroups.com> Sheryll Townsend wrote: "I think most Americans say "KWa'bek". I started trying to teach myself French recently, and I was amazed to find out how words were actually supposed to sound :*) Then I tried ordering a kwa-son(t), and the counter person just stared at me until I blushed and asked for a "kresont" (croissant)." --I've tried to order a kwa-son(t) too, and also gotten very funny looks. I'll admit to saying KWa'bek, especially when I'm not conciously thinking about pronunciation. If I am I'd try to say KAY- bek. B, Kentucky native, where we have Layfette (La FAY et) Versailles (Ver SAILS) Cairo, IL (CAY roe) Venna, IL (Vie ANN a) I have a friend and we were talking about Versailles (the French Chateau of Louis XIV) and she said "Oh Ver-Sally's!" "No that's wrong." But I couldn't help laugh. All this Geographical trivia is terrible amusing. I could bore everyone with my endless vat of North Carolina history trivia but I have the feeling you, and I, would rather be spared.... Scott From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 21 07:30:39 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:30:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: ... Illinois & names References: <998m8v+jif6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <00bd01c0b1d8$d57a7ac0$5914a3d1@doreen> --Amanda (little innocent grin) > > Now you are stepping into my territory. Having lived most of my life in Illinois, anyone from there will tell you that it is pronounced, "ILL - IN - OY" One easy way to spot the furiners. Not necessarily! I'm an Illini too and the people in my hometown often said they were from "Warshington, Illinoiz" which irritated me no end. Where is the R in Washington? There is also another little town called Metamora (pronounced just as it looks) but the inhabitants of which called it "Mat-a-more." Trina, bleeding Orange and Blue and very proud of the Fightin' Illini right now! Great! Washington is just south & west of my hometown of Joliet. (Actually, we formed our own city of Crest Hill, but nobody knows where that is at, but everyone knows about Joliet, via the Blues Bros. or Stateville Prison, which I could see on the horizon from my mom's kitchen window) I also lived in Plainfield, DeKalb, Malta, Sycamore, and Maple Park. My son went to college at Blackburn, which is in Carlinville. Always nice to know there are people from the same area. Doreen, who misses the ethnic food, but not the drive-by shootings From s_ings at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 10:07:56 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:07:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <3AB75C00.A8557C13@texas.net> Message-ID: <20010321100756.2914.qmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Sheryll Townsend wrote: > > > Pop quiz: The capital of Canada > is_________________. > > ..probably a lot more pleasant in the summer than > Texas. > ..up Nawth, ain't it? > ..full of people who don't say "y'all." > ..way, waaay too far from any decent Tex-Mex food. > > --Amanda > And the correct answer is: all of above. Oh, yeah, and Ottawa, of course. I asked the question because I am constantly amazed by the number of people who think the answer is Toronto (which is only the capital of Ontario, not the whole country, despite what the Torontonians think of themselves). Sheryll, who would love to find out what 'real' Tex-Mex food is supposed to taste like ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From s_ings at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 10:38:57 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:38:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Quebec In-Reply-To: <20010320172552.2380.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010321103857.2749.qmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> --- A B wrote: > > Sorry, this resident of Quebec thinks she lives in a > country called Canada. But then I'm an anglophone > and > an immigrant to boot. FWIW my husband is a Quebecois > "pure laine" (meaning he traces his family tree back > to the original Frnch-speaking colonists) and he'd > tell you he lives in Canada, too, and Quebec is > merely > a province among 10 others. Despite what Bernard > Landry would like everyone to think, not all > Franc-speaking Quebeckers think the same as he does. > > Anne (who says "kwa-BECK" when she's speaking > English > and "kay-BEC" when she's speaking French). > Sorry if my post offended, that certainly wasn't the intent. My Canada includes Quebec, most definitely. I think my opinions are a little coloured by having lived in the Chicoutimi/Jonquiere area for a while (for those who don't know, this is the area most vocal in their desire to see Quebec separate from the rest of Canada). Personally, I find Bernard Landry quite scary, knowing that he does not represent the views of all the province's residents. Awesome that your husband can trace his family tree back that far. I do research at the National Archives and have seen some of the census records for 1666 - very interesting stuff! Where abouts in Quebec are you? I'm in Ottawa now, but was in Chicoutimi and Bagotville (before it became Ville de la Baie). Went to school in Arvida, before it was amalgamated with Jonquiere. Again, hope my post didn't offend you. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From landers at email.unc.edu Wed Mar 21 13:35:32 2001 From: landers at email.unc.edu (Betty Landers) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:35:32 -0500 Subject: emperius curse and Lord of the Rings Message-ID: <3AB8AE24.13624869@email.unc.edu> I sent this to several groups and some of them may consider it off topic. An advance apology to them if they consider it off. Last week I was at home for Spring Break and I read Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and The Lord of the Rings. While I was reading Lord of the Rings, a thought crossed my mind that related to GoF. If the emperius curse had existed in Tolkien's world, which characters would have been most and least likely to resist it? That is, which characters would be most likely to be controled by the emperius curse and which would be most likely to resist it? Have a wonderful day. Betty. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 13:59:16 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:59:16 -0000 Subject: ReWands and Basketball In-Reply-To: <999ac1+m5t3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99ac3k+jt00@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > > "Good. Did you try the candy? I've got four or five of those twigs > lying around. What would a wand-maker be without spares? > Oh and, I'm going to post a picture of you in your bath sheet. I > mean, your cloak. :-) > > "Heather M., who is still on London time and it drained at 10 pm, > much to her absolute disgust." > > --Ohhh you made wands?!?! That is just to neat....I want one, or at > least intructions on how to make one myself! experience. > > Sorry you're team lost (waves to another North Carolinian on the > list. Hi!) But look at the bright side, Duke's still playing! I'll > confess that I've never been to big on Basketball, so I don't get the > whole excitement, but having so many teams from your home state does > make it more exciting.... > > Scott Scott!! What part of NC? Anyway... wands are easy. Go to Lowes and buy a likely looking dowel rod (oak, pine, poplar... about 1/4" or 3/8"). cut it in pieces. sand the edges off. then I coated them with clear-coat, but that bit's not necessary. And now. HOW is it POSSIBLE that you call NC HOME and you think that the fact that DUKE is still in the tourney is a bright side for a TAR HEEL! ACCCCCCCKKKKKK that just makes our defeat that much more sickening. It's like someone stabbed me then poured salt in my wounds. ;-) Luckily, I've done my Master's at the University of Arizona and can root for the Wildcats. Heather M. From bassettlover at aol.com Wed Mar 21 14:07:42 2001 From: bassettlover at aol.com (bassettlover at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:07:42 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: April Fool's Jokes . Message-ID: <5a.12c40504.27ea0fb0@aol.com> Doreen :"One of my teachers played an April Fool's joke on my classmate. He had the boy leave on an errand; told us he was going to tell a joke when the boy came back and that we were to laugh when he said, "Jeronimo." The boy came back, he told the joke with the Jeronimo line, we laughed, the boy stood there, looking totally confused, we laughed even more. The teacher repeated the joke... we were on the floor by now... finally the teacher let him off the hook by explaining." Here's another school joke: In sixth grade, my orchestra director was very strict. He was new, and since the orchestra was made up of seventh and eighth graders, with me as the long sixth grader, they didn't like him very much. On April Fool's day, he raised his hand to conduct Dance Macabre, and instead, all of us winds played Louie, Louie. The entire class was laughing, and everyone began to like Mr. Park more, as he took the joke so well.? Of cource, in sectionals with the Concert Band, people tried the same joke on him, because of our sucess, but their turn didn't work. Jennie From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 21 14:08:10 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:08:10 -0600 Subject: Tex-Mex (was Geographical literacy) References: <20010321100756.2914.qmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AB8B5C9.BB5025C0@texas.net> Sheryll Townsend wrote: > Sheryll, who would love to find out what 'real' > Tex-Mex food is supposed to taste like When I finally copy my father's Tex-Mex cookbook (which he wrote for a friend of mine who had to move to Michigan) to mail to Simon, I will send you one too. It's eerily like sitting there talking to him, but it does have some solid recipes. --Amanda > > > > ===== > "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and > taste good with ketchup." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > Yahoo! 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I've found that out from personal experience. I always find it more difficult to gain hours. Going east over the ocean, you sleep in the plane, and get up, and it's morning. Even I, who only sleeps a couple of hours - well, I stay up all day and the adjustmenbt is pretty well over. Coming west means I am awake for darned near 20 hours or something, and then I going to sleep when my body thinks it is 5 am and only sleep a few hours. I don't eat at the right times, and I and exhausted at 7 pm, and wake up far earlier than normal for about a week. Ugh! The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? East, or West? Heather From bbennett at joymail.com Wed Mar 21 15:37:44 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:37:44 -0000 Subject: Geographical literacy In-Reply-To: <998nss+bphp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99ahs8+3dpi@eGroups.com> --- Christian wrote: > Frankfort, obviously. What is this thing that all former colonies > the United Kingdom have for capitals? They never seem ready to > accept using an exisiting city for their capital - instead they > construct an all new city; preferably in the middle of nowhere, and > it ends up being populated exclusively by politicians, lobbyists, > journalists, generals and other bums. Not to forget an unusually > snotty police-service! Keep in mind that the US is a baby compared to the rest of the world; in many cases, we didn't *have* existing cities to use as capitals. And while some cities are almost exclusively politician-oriented (DC has never been industrial - it did develop as a political town), I can assure you that not all of our capital cities are about lobbyists and bums. An interesting thing to consider about the US is that much of our recent development (since around WWII) has been based around the automobile - suburbs were actually created both to sell large tracts of land and to get people to purchase cars ("Get away from the city rif-raff and move to the suburbs! Accessable only with the new and exclusive automobile!"). Also, a lot of modern architecture (not just in the US, but through out the world) came into vogue around this time, and while it was touted as visually new and different, it's real draw has been that it's cheap to construct. It's interesting to note that while this has resulted in some of our cities being poorly designed and constructed, many of the places that drove people to America in the first place retain more livable communities (i.e. a few wealthy landowners retain most of the land, which limits sprawl, towns and cities have stayed walkable; older buildings still in use; mixed zoning allows one to live/work/shop in the same area, etc). This country has a *lot* of things to recommend it, but some of our "places" need to be re-thought. I highly recommend The Geography of Nowhere - it's a fascinating book that talks about the development of the US compared it to other countries. B (did I mention I'm a Geographer? :*) From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 21 16:38:08 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:38:08 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: April Fool's Jokes . References: <5a.12c40504.27ea0fb0@aol.com> Message-ID: <006701c0b225$506e16a0$2814a3d1@doreen> Doreen :"One of my teachers played an April Fool's joke on my classmate. yada yada yada ... Here's another school joke: In sixth grade, my orchestra director was very strict. He was new, and since the orchestra was made up of seventh and eighth graders, with me as the long sixth grader, they didn't like him very much. On April Fool's day, he raised his hand to conduct Dance Macabre, and instead, all of us winds played Louie, Louie. The entire class was laughing, and everyone began to like Mr. Park more, as he took the joke so well. Of cource, in sectionals with the Concert Band, people tried the same joke on him, because of our sucess, but their turn didn't work. Jennie I just love fun, harmless, practical jokes. I get a big bang out of the Weasley twins! If there had been two of me, I do not think my poor father could have coped. It was really his and my grandfather's fault, though. They used to tell endless tales of pranks they pulled back in the good ole days when people created their own amusements using their imaginations. Doreen, humming Louie Louie... oh baby.. we gotta go... From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 21 17:55:04 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:55:04 -0600 Subject: Daniel Radcliff comics Message-ID: <00c201c0b230$13b3d1e0$2814a3d1@doreen> Hello Harry Potter, or more correctly Daniel Radcliffe who is staring as Harry in the film of the first book in the series, has been out buying his copies of the two books released to raise money for comic relief. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/potter/harry_potter23.shtml Looks like even wizards have to shop in muggle shops occasionally. He must have lost his copies. ;) Simon Nah ... FB was due back at the library on March 11 and he probably got tired of sharing QTA with Ron, so he bought his own copy. It did not say whether he pain in pounds or knuts. Doreen, waiting for UK editions of her FB/QTA & HP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From old_wych at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 18:06:40 2001 From: old_wych at yahoo.com (A B) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:06:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Quebec In-Reply-To: <985192492.626.30395.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20010321180640.13234.qmail@web5204.mail.yahoo.com> Sheryll wrote: "Where abouts in Quebec are you? I'm in Ottawa now, but was in Chicoutimi and Bagotville (before it became Ville de la Baie). Went to school in Arvida, before it was amalgamated with Jonquiere. Again, hope my post didn't offend you." No offence taken. It's just that your original post was so catagorical. I felt obliged to point out that we're not all out to break up the country here. If you've lived in the Lac St. Jean region, I can certainly understand where you get your view of separatists! As for where I live, well, in the riding right next to Mr. Landry's (unfortunately), in the suburbs of Montreal. I'm hoping if he keeps up with his wild pronouncements, people will smarten up and vote out the PQ next election. My husband's ancestors would be on that 1666 census, BTW. He's not only got his paternal line traced, but also his other three grandparents. The only one he can't trace as far is his maternal grandmother, but her ancestors were Acadian. Luckily, our local library has a good genealogy section and he was able to find quite a bit there. Isn't genealogy fun? I have a nephew who did our families, and I can trace some branches of my family back even further.... To England for the most part. Who said the French and English can't get along? ;-) Anne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From tanwo at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 18:24:03 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:24:03 -0000 Subject: And you think we're crazy Message-ID: <99ark3+25a6@eGroups.com> >From today's London Times - "Today ... in Salisbury, a first edition of J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is expected to sell at auction for ?8,000 to ?10,000 [$11,000 to $14,000]. Bids will come in by telephone and the Internet from all over the world." The book is a 'special edition' sent out to schools before publication. It is apparently "nicely bound in coloured boards". And so I should hope! I'd want JK's home 'phone number for that money. Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) Wotan From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 21 18:43:40 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:43:40 -0000 Subject: And you think we're crazy In-Reply-To: <99ark3+25a6@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99asos+acjn@eGroups.com> > "Today ... in Salisbury, a first edition of J.K. Rowling's Harry > Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is expected to sell at auction for > ?8,000 to ?10,000 [$11,000 to $14,000]. Bids will come in by > telephone and the Internet from all over the world." > That's just a tad over my limit really. Ah well. > > Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. -Ben From tanwo at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 18:49:31 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:49:31 -0000 Subject: And you think we're crazy In-Reply-To: <99asos+acjn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99at3r+dk8v@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > > > Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > > -Ben Okay, you gotta explain it to the Colonials now! Wotan From neilward at dircon.co.uk Wed Mar 21 18:54:08 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:54:08 -0000 Subject: Jet Lag (and Neil breaking to hotel rooms) In-Reply-To: <99acnu+76qp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99atcg+pi0p@eGroups.com> > Coming west means I am awake for darned near 20 hours or something, > and then I going to sleep when my body thinks it is 5 am and only > sleep a few hours. I don't eat at the right times, and I and > exhausted at 7 pm, and wake up far earlier than normal for about a > week. Ugh! > > The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? East, or > West? Having arrived in New York on Monday afternoon, on Monday night, when I was supposed to be running through my presentation for the next day, I couldn't keep my eyes open. This was despite the fact that I slept on the plane over (a bit worrying, as this period equated to my normal working day). It must have been the travelling... I was wide awake at 4am last night (Tues), I guess because it was really 9am and I would normally be at work consuming my first flagon of caffeine for the day. I got up in the night and attempted to use the payphone and the internet booth without success. I returned to my room, only to find that I couldn't remember which one I was in (the doors are unmarked and made of metal sheeting, a bit like those on prison cells). Consequently, I tried to enter my neighbour's room and woke her up (except she wasn't alone: she had two men in there, as I found out later). She was very nice and showed me how to turn the key in the lock of my own door. I explained my stupidity by saying, "I'm British". She nodded, in understanding. So, my hotel is something else. The Cher-themed room is covered in leopard print: the walls, carpet, ceiling, lamp, shelves and table. This is mixed with industrial sheet metal. I'm really not sure what this has to do with Cher Bono. The bedsheet has cigarette burns in it. Is she a heavy smoker, perchance? Can anyone explain??? Neil in NY (It's so noisy here!!!) From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Wed Mar 21 19:00:23 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:00:23 -0000 Subject: Don Rosa visiting Norway Message-ID: <99ato7+p0ng@eGroups.com> One of my heroes, Hugo Keno Don Rosa, is visiting Norway these days. He'll get to meet the mayor of oslo (our capital), of course. Don't know who he is? He is the best living Donald Duck-artist in the world - he's upholding the heritage of Carl Braks, and on the whole is a much better artist than Van Horn or Vicar. Donald Duck is much more popular in Norway (and Europe) than Mickey Mouse has ever been (or will be). I think part of the reason is that the Mickey Mouse of today is too much of a goody two shoes - he is just so insufferably righteous and boring (but he wasn't always - I remember when he went to Blaggard Castle)! Donald Duck, OTOH, makes mistakes, flies off the handle, is unlucky, and on general is far more easier to identify with (and much more fun). Best regards Christian Stub? P.S. Ever noticed the strange phenomenon that when Donald Duck wears clothes, he does not wear trousers (or any equivalent article of clothing), but if he is seen exiting a shower, he always has a towel around his waist? From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 21 19:07:11 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:07:11 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: And you think we're crazy References: <99asos+acjn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB8FBDF.B143AA86@texas.net> Benjamin wrote: > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. Unless you're in Texas and ordering Salisbury Steak, when it *is* pronounced 'salisbury.' Linguistic student that I am, I cannot fathom how they got /sarum/ from Salisbury. Edinburgh I can about process. Worchestershire I can see. But this one's out there. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 21 19:11:15 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:11:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Jet Lag (and Neil breaking to hotel rooms) References: <99atcg+pi0p@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <012501c0b23a$b4cdb000$2814a3d1@doreen> Having arrived in New York on Monday afternoon, on Monday night, when I was supposed to be running through my presentation for the next day, I couldn't keep my eyes open. This was despite the fact that I slept on the plane over (a bit worrying, as this period equated to my normal working day). It must have been the travelling... I was wide awake at 4am last night (Tues), I guess because it was really 9am and I would normally be at work consuming my first flagon of caffeine for the day. I got up in the night and attempted to use the payphone and the internet booth without success. I returned to my room, only to find that I couldn't remember which one I was in (the doors are unmarked and made of metal sheeting, a bit like those on prison cells). Consequently, I tried to enter my neighbour's room and woke her up (except she wasn't alone: she had two men in there, as I found out later). She was very nice and showed me how to turn the key in the lock of my own door. I explained my stupidity by saying, "I'm British". She nodded, in understanding. So, my hotel is something else. The Cher-themed room is covered in leopard print: the walls, carpet, ceiling, lamp, shelves and table. This is mixed with industrial sheet metal. I'm really not sure what this has to do with Cher Bono. The bedsheet has cigarette burns in it. Is she a heavy smoker, perchance? Can anyone explain??? Neil in NY (It's so noisy here!!!) So, Neil, other than that, are you enjoying New York? I would have loved to have been there when you bothered your neighbor. Did she invite you to stay? hee hee Did you request the Cher room? What are some of the other choices? (resisting a very bad Sonny joke) Better cigarette burns than cockroaches; or did you just neglect to mention them? If you were up at 4am, you would have seen them if they are there. noisy there???? sirens? what sirens? was that a car backfiring, I hope? Another two weeks there and you could sun on a rooftop and listen to Beethoven and never notice the noise. New Yorkers have to be tough just to tune out the unpleasant sounds of the daily grind. Doreen, who misses everything about the east coast, except the cockroaches To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 19:12:54 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:12:54 -0000 Subject: Nimbi Message-ID: <99aufm+g71r@eGroups.com> Jen wrote on the main list: > There was no god Nimbus, but >the word is also used to refer to the circle behinds the heads of >gods >or holy persons in (just Christian?) iconography. This circle appears in Buddhist iconography too. I don't know if scholars of Buddhist art call it a nimbus, but it looks the same and has more or less the same meaning as in Christianity. Amy Z From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 21 19:14:54 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:14:54 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Don Rosa visiting Norway References: <99ato7+p0ng@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <013101c0b23b$36cea1e0$2814a3d1@doreen> One of my heroes, Hugo Keno Don Rosa, is visiting Norway these days. He'll get to meet the mayor of oslo (our capital), of course. Don't know who he is? He is the best living Donald Duck-artist in the world - he's upholding the heritage of Carl Braks, and on the whole is a much better artist than Van Horn or Vicar. Donald Duck is much more popular in Norway (and Europe) than Mickey Mouse has ever been (or will be). I think part of the reason is that the Mickey Mouse of today is too much of a goody two shoes - he is just so insufferably righteous and boring (but he wasn't always - I remember when he went to Blaggard Castle)! Donald Duck, OTOH, makes mistakes, flies off the handle, is unlucky, and on general is far more easier to identify with (and much more fun). Best regards Christian Stub P.S. Ever noticed the strange phenomenon that when Donald Duck wears clothes, he does not wear trousers (or any equivalent article of clothing), but if he is seen exiting a shower, he always has a towel around his waist? Can you get an autograph of him on a DD cartoon? From simon at hp.inbox.as Wed Mar 21 19:24:02 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:24:02 -0000 Subject: And you think we're crazy In-Reply-To: <99at3r+dk8v@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99av4i+gf2j@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > > > > > > Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > > > > > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > > > > -Ben > > > Okay, you gotta explain it to the Colonials now! > > Wotan I would guess he is talking about this, which is from my usual source. SARUM: The ecclesiastical name of Salisbury, used attrib. in Sarum Use, the order of divine service used in the diocese of Salisbury from the 11th century to the Reformation; so Sarum missal, office, rubric. Also absol. 1570 FOXE A. & M. 237/1 Thus..Osmundus bishop of Salisbury, deuised that ordinary, which is called the vse of Sarum. Ibid. Table, Sarum vse when it was deuised. 1832 W. PALMER Orig. Liturg. I. 186 Their rubrics are sometimes less definite than those of the Sarum `Use'. Ibid. 357 note, This epistle, according to the Sarum rubric, was taken from the `commune unius Apostoli'. 1882 G. H. FORBES Missale Drummond. 7 margin, In the Sarum Office this is the Alleluia for Mondays. Ibid. 8 margin, This Communio does not occur in the Sarum. 1929 S. LESLIE Anglo-Catholic x. 117 His ritual was simple: two lights, Sarum Use and Sarum colours with simple vestments of linen. 1954 O. CHADWICK Founding of Cuddesdon v. 133 This was just the time when the old-fashioned cassock was giving way to the Sarum cassock, which was intruding from about 1887 onwards and conquering by 1897. 1957 Oxf. Dict. Chr. Ch. 1209/1 In the years preceding the Reformation the output of Sarum books was enormous. The much increased knowledge which has followed their discovery..has led to the revival of Sarum customs and ornaments in many English cathedral and parish churches. 1966 J. BETJEMAN High & Low 55 And there we'll sing the Sarum rite Tae English Hymnal airs. 1972 C. STEPHENSON Merrily on High iv. 64 SS. Philip & James, very Sarum, and St. Margaret's close by very western, were the centre of great turmoil at one stage when the vicar of Phil & Jim was making it western and the vicar of St. Margaret's was busy taking off the six candles from the altar and substituting two while introducing Sarum practices. 1974 Encycl. Brit. Microp?dia VIII. 908/3 The Sarum chants resemble Gregorian ones in the use of free rhythm, modes.., psalm tones.., musical form, and the addition of tropes. Possibly I should have known that, but I am not a local like Jaffa. Simon From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 20:37:36 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:37:36 -0000 Subject: Daniel Radcliffe comics In-Reply-To: <00c201c0b230$13b3d1e0$2814a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <99b3eg+qvd9@eGroups.com> Doreen > > Nah ... FB was due back at the library on March 11 and he probably got tired of sharing QTA with Ron, so he bought his own copy. It did not say whether he pain in pounds or knuts. > It's pounds--wizards don't use "little bits of paper" such as he is handing the cashier--but I'm not fooled for a second. He just keeps some Muggle money on hand for summers at Privet Drive (he gets it by changing Galleons at Gringott's, of course--even the threat of Sirius won't compel Vernon and Petunia to give him an allowance). Amy Z From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 21:45:01 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:45:01 -0000 Subject: Jet Lag In-Reply-To: <99acnu+76qp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99b7ct+ev6d@eGroups.com> Heather wrote: "I always find it more difficult to gain hours. Going east over the ocean, you sleep in the plane, and get up, and it's morning. Even I, who only sleeps a couple of hours - well, I stay up all day and the adjustmenbt is pretty well over. Coming west means I am awake for darned near 20 hours or something, and then I going to sleep when my body thinks it is 5 am and only sleep a few hours. I don't eat at the right times, and I and exhausted at 7 pm, and wake up far earlier than normal for about a week. Ugh! The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? East, or West?" --This is what I meant, but somehow still managed to say it exactly backwards. It is worst to go West than to go East. Scott Who suprisingly enough doesn't have jet lag, but still can't manage to think clearly. From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 22:38:37 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:38:37 -0000 Subject: hotel rooms In-Reply-To: <99atcg+pi0p@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bahd+2ud1@eGroups.com> Neil wrote: I love this list! All this laughing must be good for my health. It's definitely good for my soul. Can't do much to help you, I'm afraid. I grew up near enough to NYC to go there on many outings, but still, it's a foreign country in and of itself. I can't even comprehend trying to find a decent, affordable hotel room there. (I think the "Cher" means "tres expensive.") Sounds like one advantage of that room might be that they keep a large directory of call girls in every night table, next to the Gideon Bible. Perhaps your, ah, =neighbor= is listed. Your experience reminds me of the "Minnesota Woods"-themed room I stayed in once in Rochester, Minnesota (which is =not= itself in the woods). It was your usual motel room with wallpaper that was a life-size mural of enormous trees. I paid extra for this lovely decor, but counted myself lucky to have any room at all, because unbeknownst to me before I got there, it was the weekend of a huge antique fair, and every antique hunter in the midwest was in Rochester that night. In my one NYC hotel experience, I was sharing a room with 4 other people; we were all in town for a private-schools conference in desperate hope of getting jobs, since the school we worked at had just announced that it was folding. Two in each bed and one on the floor. In the middle of the night, the fire alarm went off, followed closely by an even louder voice with the most outrageous NY accent you ever heard declaring, "There is no cause for alahm. We are investigating the source [pronounced sauce] of the alahm." The fire alarm stayed off, but the voice returned several times over the next couple of hours to inform us, each time, that there was no cause for alahm and they were investigating the sauce of the alahm. We got no sleep, but it was worth it. To this day I can reduce my husband (who was one of the people in the room, though not, at that time, my husband) to helpless giggles by announcing "There is no cause for alahm." Your room does sound quite bulletproof, what with all the sheet metal. This can be useful. I hope your presentation went well. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 22:43:53 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:43:53 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99av4i+gf2j@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bar9+mruc@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > > > > > > > > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > Okay, you gotta explain it to the Colonials now! > > > > Wotan > > I would guess he is talking about this, which is from my usual source. > > SARUM: The ecclesiastical name of Salisbury, used attrib. in Sarum > Use, the order of divine service used in the diocese of Salisbury > from the 11th century to the Reformation; so Sarum missal, office, > rubric. Also absol. > I still want to know how to pronounce Salisbury! Amy Z who knows to say Worcester as Wooster (more like Wister if you're in Massachusetts) and Leicester as Lester, but can't think of anything to do to Salisbury except skim over the "i" and the "u": Salzbree. From pbnesbit at msn.com Wed Mar 21 23:21:35 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:21:35 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99bar9+mruc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bd1v+hvnh@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > Okay, you gotta explain it to the Colonials now! > > > > > > Wotan > > > > I would guess he is talking about this, which is from my usual > source. > > > > SARUM: The ecclesiastical name of Salisbury, used attrib. in Sarum > > Use, the order of divine service used in the diocese of Salisbury > > from the 11th century to the Reformation; so Sarum missal, office, > > rubric. Also absol. > > > > I still want to know how to pronounce Salisbury! > > Amy Z > who knows to say Worcester as Wooster (more like Wister if you're in > Massachusetts) and Leicester as Lester, but can't think of anything to > do to Salisbury except skim over the "i" and the "u": Salzbree. By George, I think she's got it! But just try ordering 'Salzbree Steak' and see how confused the waitress looks. :) Peace & Plenty, Parker Who loves words & makes a habit of confusing the colonials From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 21 23:27:11 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:27:11 -0000 Subject: Stuff and nonsense Message-ID: <99bdcf+6smg@eGroups.com> I love this list too. It always makes me giggle. To wit: "Bulletproof hotel rooms once inhabited by Cher" "The sauce of the alahm - there is no cause for alahm" "Pants vs Towel: Donald Duck in an Oslo Shower" "Salzbree" By the way: I say "Salzberry Steak". Oh and. I tried Jaffa Cakes in England - they were icky, but I liked Hob nobs and digestive biscuits. I think it was the sqishy orange bit on the jaffa cakes. Heather, who left a lipstick in her jeans pocket and probably ruined about $500 worth of WHITE clothes in the dryer today, but is not panicking YET, because she is trying several methods to fix it, most notably two tubs of something called quite ominously "M-30." From wr7238 at worldnet.att.net Wed Mar 21 23:22:05 2001 From: wr7238 at worldnet.att.net (Roy Mallett Jr) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:22:05 -0500 Subject: Thank You Message-ID: First of all,THANK YOU,for accepting and Iam sorry about an email I sent about that woman on the other site. I'm still learning how to use the computer and internet. But I want to say thank you to Jamieson,Heidi,and BBennett for filling me in on what has been happening to one of this family's authors! My boys are 12 and 13 and love JKR's books! We and myself personally have never heard of this person or her books! I have just turned 48,how time flies, and never saw or heard about anything of hers! I belong to 5 book clubs for a very long time and nowhere has anything showed up on any club selections at anytime. So, I am really shocked about this news. Please keep us inform. Thank you,from,WitchWanda2002 From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 23:43:28 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:43:28 -0000 Subject: Stuff and nonsense In-Reply-To: <99bdcf+6smg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99beb0+4513@eGroups.com> > Heather, who left a lipstick in her jeans pocket and probably ruined > about $500 worth of WHITE clothes in the dryer today, but is not > panicking YET, because she is trying several methods to fix it, most > notably two tubs of something called quite ominously "M-30." Oh my. Sounds like something that the Pentagon hid in your laundry room. I hope it works! Bleach won't do the job? I mean, I hate to suggest it because it's such a horrible, deadly substance and should probably be banned by the Geneva Convention, but I've never found a stain that could resist it. Or are your whites not totally white? Amy Z Stepford Wife (yeah right--actually, the dirty dishes are going to rise up and attack at any second) From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 23:48:19 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:48:19 -0000 Subject: Want to win a million Galleons? Message-ID: <99bek3+g5jg@eGroups.com> I just took a fun quiz on www.hpgalleries.com. Go there and click on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" If only Regis asked questions like this, I could be a rich woman. Oh yeah, I'd have to get on the show first. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 21 23:57:53 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:57:53 -0000 Subject: Aragorn is *not* dull was Re: LOTR and the Imperius Curse In-Reply-To: <9981mt+qhm4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bf61+lkha@eGroups.com> Pippin wrote You're right on all counts. I think one reason I don't like Aragorn is that he's one of the worst offenders in the Everyone Starts Talking in Really High, Noble Speech part of the book. I think Tolkien should have spared us all of that. But that's just MHO. Betty, I posted a response to your LOTR post a few days ago. Look back through the messages here for the beginning of the thread! Amy Z From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Thu Mar 22 00:04:02 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:04:02 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Lipstick Removal Message-ID: <71.bbc0f97.27ea9b72@aol.com> In a message dated 3/21/2001 5:28:19 PM Central Standard Time, aichambaye at yahoo.com writes: > Heather, who left a lipstick in her jeans pocket and probably ruined > about $500 worth of WHITE clothes in the dryer today, but is not > panicking YET, because she is trying several methods to fix it, most > notably two tubs of something called quite ominously "M-30." > > > http://www.fabriclink.com/holidaystain.html Lipstick - Always read and follow the care instructions and any warnings on the garment label. And, follow these General Rules for stain removal. Place the stain face down on folded paper towels. Sponge area with dry-cleaning solvent. Replace towels frequently; let dry; rinse. Rub with a heavy-duty liquid detergent and launder. Repeat treatment if needed using an all-fabric bleach, because it is less damaging to colors and fabric. If stain remains, treat as a "Dye Stain." ****** http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~robsond/solutions/ Stain Removal--Lipstick Treat stains as soon as possible after staining. The older the stain, the more difficult it will be to remove. All stain removal methods should be applied prior to laundering washable garments. Stains that have been laundered and dried are almost impossible to remove. Stain removal from washable fabrics Place stain face down on paper towels. Sponge back of stain with dry cleaning solvent (Energine). Move fabric to clean area of towels frequently. Rinse. Rub liquid soap or light-duty detergent in stain until outline is gone. Launder. Stain Removal from carpet Remove excess lipstick by blotting up with a clean absorbent towel. Apply a spot cleaner such as K2r or a dry cleaning solvent such as Energine according to product directions. (Test in an inconspicuous place to make carpet color is not removed.) Some spot cleaners dry to a powder. If this type is used, vacuum before continuing. Apply carpet shampoo (diluted 1 part liquid carpet shampoo to 4 parts water) with a brush or towel. Let the area dry thoroughly, then vacuum. Repeat if necessary. Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 00:06:31 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:06:31 -0000 Subject: Want to win a million Galleons? In-Reply-To: <99bek3+g5jg@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bfm7+u3qt@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > I just took a fun quiz on www.hpgalleries.com. Go there and click on > "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" > > If only Regis asked questions like this, I could be a rich woman. Oh > yeah, I'd have to get on the show first. I was doing ok until I got a question about the Finnish version of the books. Threw me a little and I ended up getting it wrong (asked for Prof. Snape's name in Finnish). Took it now and got a different set of questions. Seems that there is more than one set of questions. Simon From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 00:14:06 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:14:06 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99bd1v+hvnh@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bg4e+670r@eGroups.com> Ben confused us by writing: "Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum." Simon quoted the OED: "SARUM: The ecclesiastical name of Salisbury, used attrib. in Sarum Use, the order of divine service used in the diocese of Salisbury from the 11th century to the Reformation; so Sarum missal, office, rubric. Also absol. " Amy echoed my own sentiments: "I still want to know how to pronounce Salisbury! ...but can't think of anything to do to Salisbury except skim over the "i" and the "u": Salzbree." --I too am rather confused. I would most likely pronounce this word SAUL'S-brie. But I'm guessing that's wrong. OTOH I just can't see sarum... I know to pronounce 'Pall Mall' as 'Pell Mell'.(that is right. Right?) BTW, how do you pronounce Marlyebone? Marl-burough? Scott From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 00:15:35 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:15:35 -0000 Subject: Stuff and nonsense In-Reply-To: <99beb0+4513@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bg77+uko8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Heather, who left a lipstick in her jeans pocket and probably ruined > > about $500 worth of WHITE clothes in the dryer today, but is not > > panicking YET, because she is trying several methods to fix it, most > > notably two tubs of something called quite ominously "M-30." > > Oh my. Sounds like something that the Pentagon hid in your laundry > room. I hope it works! > > Bleach won't do the job? I mean, I hate to suggest it because it's > such a horrible, deadly substance and should probably be banned by the > Geneva Convention, but I've never found a stain that could resist it. > Or are your whites not totally white? > > Amy Z > Stepford Wife (yeah right--actually, the dirty dishes are going to > rise up and attack at any second) Well, last time... No. Bleach didn't do it and i bleached them TWICE _and_ let them soak in the bathtub. Ergh! I have had this stuff recomended to me and I will keep you posted. If this doesn't work I'm going to buy a whole bunch of "brown sugar" colored tee-shirts, socks, and unmentionables, and I won't have to do this again! No more whites! Heather From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 00:27:09 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:27:09 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99bg4e+670r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bgst+asud@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > Ben confused us by writing: > "Salisbury is not pronounced as it is spelt :)) > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum." > > Simon quoted the OED: > "SARUM: The ecclesiastical name of Salisbury, used attrib. in > Sarum Use, the order of divine service used in the diocese of > Salisbury from the 11th century to the Reformation; so Sarum missal, > office, rubric. Also absol. " > > Amy echoed my own sentiments: > "I still want to know how to pronounce Salisbury! > ...but can't think of anything to do to Salisbury except skim over > the "i" and the "u": Salzbree." > > --I too am rather confused. I would most likely pronounce this word > SAUL'S-brie. But I'm guessing that's wrong. OTOH I just can't see > sarum... I think Parker answered this earlier. Amy is about right, or at least pronounces it how I would (which may not be right). I was leaving this for Ben to answer. > I know to pronounce 'Pall Mall' as 'Pell Mell'.(that is right. Right?) > BTW, how do you pronounce Marlyebone? Marl-burough? Well I go with mar-ly-bone. But have no idea about what is correct. Unhelpfully Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 01:07:04 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:07:04 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99bgst+asud@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bj7o+h2l2@eGroups.com> > > "I still want to know how to pronounce Salisbury! > > ...but can't think of anything to do to Salisbury except skim over > > the "i" and the "u": Salzbree." > > > > --I too am rather confused. I would most likely pronounce this word > > SAUL'S-brie. Salzbree (long a) or SAUL'S-brie are correct :)) Just to tease further - how do you pronounce St Johns? One of the local churches rejoices(!) in this name and the old folk pronounce it in a way you might not expect (unless you've come across the name Norman St Johns Stevens) Wotan From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 22 01:09:40 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:09:40 -0700 Subject: Fun Read Message-ID: Another good read, with plenty of supernatural stuff mixed with humor: It's called "Summon The Keeper" by Tanya Huff (you can read blurbs at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0886777844/ ) Sample dialog, with Claire (the Keeper) and Austin (her talking cat) trying to explain to Dean ("innocent bystander") what she does for a living. She tells him how Evil can sometimes punch really big holes in the fabric of the Universe, wreaking havoc on the planet: His eyes widened, appearing even larger magnified by the lenses of his glasses. "Has this ever happened?" She hesitated, then shrugged. "Yes, but not often; the sinking of Atlantis, the destruction of the Minoan Empire..." "The inexplicable popularity of Barney," Austin added dryly. And later: "...The battles, Keeper vs Keeper, good vs evil, had been won, but both times at a terrible cost. The first has resulted in the eruption of Vesuvius and the destruction of Pompeii. The second, in disco. Claire had only a child's memory of the seventies, but she wouldn't be responsible for putting the world through that again." Added bonus to Canadians -- it's set in Ontario! Again, this is just a fun read. SML ============================================== Before death takes what has been given to you, you must give away everything you can give. ---Rumi ============================================== From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 22 01:26:59 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:26:59 -0000 Subject: Salisbury In-Reply-To: <99bj7o+h2l2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bkd3+nb5f@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > > > Just to tease further - how do you pronounce St Johns? One of the > local churches rejoices(!) in this name and the old folk pronounce it > in a way you might not expect (unless you've come across the name > Norman St Johns Stevens) > > Wotan Wotan (love that name!) OK, is it Sin-jun? Never have come across Norman St Johns Stevens, but I *have* read Jane Eyre. Parker who now really *knows* she was born in the wrong country! From foxmoth at qnet.com Thu Mar 22 01:42:53 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:42:53 -0000 Subject: Aragorn is *not* dull was Re: LOTR and the Imperius Curse In-Reply-To: <99bf61+lkha@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99blat+gaa3@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Pippin wrote > > You're right on all counts. I think one reason I don't like Aragorn > is that he's one of the worst offenders in the Everyone Starts Talking > in Really High, Noble Speech part of the book. I think Tolkien should > have spared us all of that. But that's just MHO. You definitely have a point. But MHO the worst offender is Faramir. I challenge anyone to read his coronation speech, the one that starts 'Men of Gondor, hear now the Steward of this realm', out loud without laughing. I can't :) Tolkien does say that part was largely written by the scribes of Gondor, rather than the Hobbits. Too bad Sauron didn't get them all Pippin From lj2d30 at gateway.net Thu Mar 22 01:46:54 2001 From: lj2d30 at gateway.net (Trina) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:46:54 -0000 Subject: The 1st day of spring Message-ID: <99blie+op78@eGroups.com> Yesterday down South we had one whopper of a storm--rain, ice, sleet, snow, and wind! Ick! Here in Anderson we had rain and wind and a little sleet and snow, but mainly the wind. At 10:30 am the power at school went out. And stayed out for the rest of the day. Naturally this happened just as some of the Kindergartners were headed for lunch. Therefore we had rationing of the chicken strips--one per child (they had to feed 687 students minus those who brought their lunch) and cold creamed potatoes. But I must say that the kids were absolute troupers and as a reward for the excellent behaviour in times of trial we will have ice cream next week at lunch time. IMO I think the kids complained less than we teachers did! It was cold and it was dark and I kept thinking "If only I could use Hermione's woodless fire charm! And a Lumos charm would be handy as well." Is it yet another sign of my total HP addiction that I also thought "Ah, excellent Quidditch weather!" ? Trina, who loves this forum for the sheer silliness of its members. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 01:54:11 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:54:11 -0000 Subject: The 1st day of spring In-Reply-To: <99blie+op78@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bm03+vr5j@eGroups.com> YUCK! In NC it's been raining and freezing for two days (not freezing literally, but you know what I mean. COLD!). But I have to ask: Why on erath didn't they send teh kids home? Heather M., mystified in North Carolina, and still working on the lipstick stains. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Trina" wrote: > Yesterday down South we had one whopper of a storm--rain, ice, sleet, > snow, and wind! Ick! Here in Anderson we had rain and wind and a > little sleet and snow, but mainly the wind. At 10:30 am the power at > school went out. And stayed out for the rest of the day. Naturally > this happened just as some of the Kindergartners were headed for > lunch. Therefore we had rationing of the chicken strips--one per > child (they had to feed 687 students minus those who brought their > lunch) and cold creamed potatoes. But I must say that the kids were > absolute troupers and as a reward for the excellent behaviour in > times of trial we will have ice cream next week at lunch time. IMO I > think the kids complained less than we teachers did! > > It was cold and it was dark and I kept thinking "If only I could use > Hermione's woodless fire charm! And a Lumos charm would be handy as > well." Is it yet another sign of my total HP addiction that I also > thought "Ah, excellent Quidditch weather!" ? > > Trina, who loves this forum for the sheer silliness of its members. From pbnesbit at msn.com Thu Mar 22 02:02:19 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:02:19 -0000 Subject: The 1st day of spring In-Reply-To: <99blie+op78@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99bmfb+f41h@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Trina" wrote: > Yesterday down South we had one whopper of a storm--rain, ice, sleet, > snow, and wind! Ick! Here in Anderson we had rain and wind and a > little sleet and snow, but mainly the wind. At 10:30 am the power at > school went out. And stayed out for the rest of the day. Naturally > this happened just as some of the Kindergartners were headed for > lunch. Therefore we had rationing of the chicken strips--one per > child (they had to feed 687 students minus those who brought their > lunch) and cold creamed potatoes. But I must say that the kids were > absolute troupers and as a reward for the excellent behaviour in > times of trial we will have ice cream next week at lunch time. IMO I > think the kids complained less than we teachers did! > > It was cold and it was dark and I kept thinking "If only I could use > Hermione's woodless fire charm! And a Lumos charm would be handy as > well." Is it yet another sign of my total HP addiction that I also > thought "Ah, excellent Quidditch weather!" ? > > Trina, who loves this forum for the sheer silliness of its members. Trina, It rained here in Charleston, too (you're right, it *was* excellent Quidditch weather). Did they send the kids & teachers home or did you have to suffer all day? Parker, who could use a wand out here in the woods for when the lights go out PS: Anyone know a cooling charm? I'm going to need one in a few weeks :) From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 22 02:06:06 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:06:06 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Stuff and nonsense References: <99bg77+uko8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AB95E0E.974F88F@texas.net> aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > If this doesn't work I'm going to buy a whole bunch of "brown sugar" > colored tee-shirts, socks, and unmentionables, and I won't have to do > this again! No more whites! Just go by some fabric dye and dye them to match. --Amanda, intrepid re-user of stained clothing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is a wonderful series (all Kay's stuff is like this), the kind of book that you look at when you're done, and you can't believe it's not a thicker book, there was so *much* in there! It's, to my mind, as rich as LOTR, but with sex. (By that, it includes physical relationships in the wide range of interactions presented--it's not R-rated or anything.) It's a good option for those panting for anything to pass the time until book 5 comes out, too. --Amanda, crazed sex fiend (yeah, right, mom of three, who has time?) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 22 02:28:28 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Christian=20Stub=F8?=) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:28:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: Hotel-rooms/Don Rosa/Donald Duck/Jetlag/Laundry/Student-accommodation In-Reply-To: <985219598.2327.48808.l7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20010322022829.6520.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Neil Ward" skrev: [snip] > So, my hotel is something else. The Cher-themed room is covered in > leopard print: the walls, carpet, ceiling, lamp, shelves and table. > This is mixed with industrial sheet metal. I'm really not sure what > this has to do with Cher Bono. The bedsheet has cigarette burns in > it. Is she a heavy smoker, perchance? Can anyone explain??? I have had a number of strange accommodations in my time (including one site in Sweden where the toilets did not have a roof - and it was a rainstorm at the time), but as far as proper hotels go , the worst I've had was with a chain of hotels called Ibis. Ibis is apparently one of those companies which has all its hotels prefabricated in modules at a central plant, and then has them shipped to the site. The reason for my believing this is that I have tried Hotel Ibis both in Augsburg, Germany, and in Paris, France. The rooms are exactly identical in shape, layout and size - whether they have two beds or four beds. As a room with two beds is just adequate in size, you can imagine... The room is long and narrow (entrance at one of the short ends, window at the other short end) and is two beds long, with the beds along one wall. The bathroom is opposite the bed nearest the window-end, and is one bed long. Space between that bed and the bathroom is just enough to open the 30in-door. A room with four beds is exactly the same as one with two, except that it has two beds hanging on the wall above the other two - if the rooms is leased out as a two-bed bedroom, the beds can be folded up against the wall (like on a sleeping-carriage on the railway). On the trip, I found that with four people, each having a large suitcase and a bag (we were on a three-week bandtrip), we had to choose between having people in bed and luggage on floor, or vice-versa - there simply was not room for both. This made for complicated logistics when going to bed or getting out of bed (particularly if somebody needed to use the bathroom during the night). In general, on the band-trip, I got to experience many hotels (In Germany, Austria (where our, and other rooms, were looted or attempted looted), Italy, Switzerland, France and UK), though my favourites were Hotel Continental in Lugano, Switzerland (good service, wonderful garden, easy access to the city, excellent view, good food, railroad nearby (I am a rail-fan), and I could go on like this) and Regent's Palace Hotel in London. That hotel actually was primitive in some ways (the rooms did not have individual bathrooms, just a sink), but still, I really liked it. The rooms were very comfortable, and access to the facilities was generally very easy, except trying to get a shower during the morning rush. For a shower or a bath, you called the desk and requested it, and a porter would show up as soon as a bathroom or shower was ready, with towel and washcloths. A good no. 3 was the hotel in Lausanne, Switzerland, but that city was incredibly steep! > (It's so noisy here!!!) And I am convinced it is nothing in comparison with what a student-village (see below) is like when there is a party in the works. --- "Doreen" skrev: > One of my heroes, Hugo Keno Don Rosa, is visiting Norway these days. [snip] > P.S. Ever noticed the strange phenomenon that when Donald Duck > wears clothes, he does not wear trousers (or any equivalent article > of clothing), but if he is seen exiting a shower, he always has a > towel around his waist? > > Can you get an autograph of him on a DD cartoon? When you wrote "DD cartoon" I thought you were making a reference to Draco Dormiens, by Cassandra Claire, and I was most puzzled. I worked it out eventually, however. No, I cannot get his autograph, as he is in Oslo, and I am in Lofoten - that is a distance of quite a few hundred miles, and around US$1000. A bit much for an autograph on my budget, I'm afraid. It is more expensive travelling within Norway on certain stretches, than it is going to USA from Oslo. --- "Heather" skrev: > I love this list too. It always makes me giggle. > > To wit: [snip] > "Pants vs Towel: Donald Duck in an Oslo Shower" I do not believe there is canon proof that Donald Duck has in fact ever stayed ona hotel in Oslo, also it is a fact that he did go to Norway during the fifties, on a wild lemming-chase. He has been observed in the shwoer in Duckburg, Calisota, however. ;.) [snip] > Oh and. I tried Jaffa Cakes in England - they were icky, but I liked > Hob nobs and digestive biscuits. I think it was the sqishy orange bit > on the jaffa cakes. They can be abit on the sweet side - that much is true. --- "Doreen" skrev: > Heather wrote: [snip] > Ugh! The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? > East, or West?" > > > --This is what I meant, but somehow still managed to say it exactly > backwards. It is worst to go West than to go East. > > Scott > Who suprisingly enough doesn't have jet lag, but still can't manage > to think clearly. In crossing time-zones, I found going East was worse than going West, though it is probably because of the conditions. I was an exchange-student in the academic year of 1993-94, and crossed seven time-zones on my way to Kentucky, though the actual difference is only 6 hours. I arrived at local time 10pm (my body's time 4am - I had left Norway at 10am, Norwegian time - the journey went from Oslo to Newark Airport, from Newark to Detroit, from Detroit to Lexington). On the way from the airport I was treated to my first McDonald's-meal ever. On the return-flight, I arrived in Oslo at ca. 9am local time (3am according to my body). --- "Amy Z" skrev: > > Heather, who left a lipstick in her jeans pocket and probably ruined > > about $500 worth of WHITE clothes in the dryer today, but is not > > panicking YET, because she is trying several methods to fix it, most > > notably two tubs of something called quite ominously "M-30." > > Oh my. Sounds like something that the Pentagon hid in your laundry > room. I hope it works! > > Bleach won't do the job? I mean, I hate to suggest it because it's > such a horrible, deadly substance and should probably be banned by the > Geneva Convention, but I've never found a stain that could resist it. > Or are your whites not totally white? > > Amy Z > Stepford Wife (yeah right--actually, the dirty dishes are going to > rise up and attack at any second) My condolences to Heather re: the lipstick. That M-30 did sound ominous - sounds more like a rocket-launcher, or some sort of chemical or biological weapon, than a detergent to me. The various replies to this had me thinking about the Laundromat at the student-village where I used to live. Yes, students in Norway do their own laundry - even male students. We don't have accommodation on campus, like American universities and colleges seem to prefer, either. The closest thing we have are student-villages, which are areas with apartment-blocks built for students. Each unit has a kitchen and a bathroom, and a number of rooms (most often 3-5) let out individually. No equivalent of dorm-parents. We do our own washing. Generally the students live like flatmates, allocating work between them. This was most difficult the last year, when I had a Chinese student on my section - brought up in a society where women do the housework. The student-villages in Trondheim are owned by Studentsamskipnaden i Trondheim (SiT). Norway ahs a law that states that all students at universities and colleges are members of their local samskipnad (student-union or -association), and the term-fee is paid to the samskipnad, not the university. The samskipnad runs student-villages, cafeterias, bookstores, food-stores (generally, the universities and colleges give the local samskipnad a monopoly on stores and cafeterias on campus), health-services (both mental and physical health), day-care-centres (some students have children) and allocates financial support to various student-organisations and -events. *** Hmm... I was just going to write a short reply to Doreen regarding Don Rosa, and look what it turned into! Best regards Christian Stub Captain-General of the mercenary fleet, which just boarded the good (?) ship S/S Trelawney/Snape in search of illegal contraband (at the request of an undisclosed customer). We found a very large shipment of non-regulation crystal-balls, and more importantly, we found illegal variants of incense, the effects of which had been further increased with dubious potions. ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten p http://no.invites.yahoo.com From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 22 05:59:32 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:59:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Snapeslash (was Re: Snape SHIP SHIP SHIP) (migrating message) In-Reply-To: <99b1m5+lf94@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 jennifer.k at lycos.com wrote in HPFGU: > Among the slashpairings we have Harry/Snape, Draco/Snape and > Dumbledore/Snape (I do deprecate this one...a much devoted slashfan > I am, but...no) And Snape/Lupin, Snape/Black, Snape/James, Snape/Lucius, Snape/Ron, Snape/Lockhart... I think Snape is actually the most slashed character. He goes well with everyone. *g* Snape/Dumbledore has actually quite grown on me. There is something to be said for the whole 'devotion to Dumbledore turned him back from the Dark Side' thing, clich?d though it might be. And 'Snape was in love with James' has *way* more credibility, to me, that 'Snape was in love with Lily' ever could, just from the books -- I have no idea why James might have been in love with her (other than that she had red hair, green eyes, was Head Girl, and sacrificed herself for her child), let alone Snape. You can (and lots of people have) construct an entire doomed romance for them, you can explain Snape's dislike for Harry... Snape/Lupin is actually my favorite, though, because you get to pair two outsiders who both know what it's like to be close to darkness. And Lupin, in fic anyway, does have that sort of gentle, vulnerable personality that Snape can gain some self-esteem by protecting. But they're also both self-sufficient survivors, strong, well-defined characters, a very balanced relationship. That's what I think is missing in any of the suggested Snape/f pairings (and this goes to the issue of portrayals of female characters in HP, about which I agree 100% with Susan) -- only McGonagall has anything approaching the familiarity we, as readers, have with Snape, but I *really* can't see them together. (And it's not just 'cause I find any McGonagall/m pairing absurd. *g*) We don't know any of the other female characters well enough, they're not *interesting* enough, for me to want to see them with Snape. (I'm assuming here that no one is suggesting Snape/Hermione. *shudders*) I can't imagine anything to base a relationship on. I'm sure people will disagree with me about that, but that's okay. That's why I run the Snapeslash list. *g* But really, I've yet to run across any slash pairing with Snape that I didn't, on some level, like. He's just one of those characters. --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From fmu30c at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 05:16:03 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:16:03 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Plural/singular, again, & other UK/US stuff References: <99628n+atk7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <035801c0b29f$3513ad00$87481c3f@rena> > Ah, now you see, we say pee-ee! And that would be, because many students like to hide in the bathroom when it's time to exercise?! *l* Rena -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmu30c at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 06:18:47 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:18:47 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jet Lag References: <99acnu+76qp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <035a01c0b29f$37453300$87481c3f@rena> For me, going east is worse than going west. When I travel from Ca to Germany, I usually arrive before noon and then have to keep myself awake till evening. Most of the time I crash by 3 pm and then I'm awake most of the night. Going home is a breeze. I arrive in the late afternoon, early evening, unpack shower and get some good sleep. No problem what so ever Traveling form coast to coast is never a problem for me. Three hour time difference is no big deal after learning to deal with a nine hour time difference. Rena > I can relate to jet-lag and believe me it is MUCH worse to lose hours > than it is to gain them. I've found that out from personal experience. I always find it more difficult to gain hours. Going east over the ocean, you sleep in the plane, and get up, and it's morning. Even I, who only sleeps a couple of hours - well, I stay up all day and the adjustmenbt is pretty well over. Coming west means I am awake for darned near 20 hours or something, and then I going to sleep when my body thinks it is 5 am and only sleep a few hours. I don't eat at the right times, and I and exhausted at 7 pm, and wake up far earlier than normal for about a week. Ugh! The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? East, or West? Heather -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Never have come across Norman St Johns Stevens, > but I *have* read Jane Eyre. > > Parker > who now really *knows* she was born in the wrong country! Sin-jun - spot on! Fifty points to Gryffindor. Didn't know it was in Jane Eyre. Have I read Jane Eyre? Yes, when I was 13. Did I want to read Jane Eyre? No Sir! So much for school teachers. Wotan From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 11:20:25 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:20:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Quebec/genealogy In-Reply-To: <20010321180640.13234.qmail@web5204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010322112025.37207.qmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> --- A B wrote: > My husband's ancestors would be on that 1666 census, > BTW. He's not only got his paternal line traced, but > also his other three grandparents. The only one he > can't trace as far is his maternal grandmother, but > her ancestors were Acadian. Luckily, our local > library > has a good genealogy section and he was able to find > quite a bit there. Isn't genealogy fun? I have a > nephew who did our families, and I can trace some > branches of my family back even further.... To > England > for the most part. Who said the French and English > can't get along? ;-) > > Anne Has your husband checked the records here at the National Archives? How far back has he gotten with his maternal grandmother's line? I can send you a booklet with all the information on the holdings at the Archives here, if he's interested. Email me off-list: s_ings at yahoo.com Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 12:35:37 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:35:37 -0000 Subject: Nimbi In-Reply-To: <99aufm+g71r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99crip+a75t@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Jen wrote on the main list: > > > There was no god Nimbus, but > >the word is also used to refer to the circle behinds the heads of > >gods > >or holy persons in (just Christian?) iconography. > > This circle appears in Buddhist iconography too. I don't know if > scholars of Buddhist art call it a nimbus, but it looks the same and > has more or less the same meaning as in Christianity. > > Amy Z Isn't it a type of plane too? (presumably they got the name from iconography) I think it is used as an airborne early warning system (useful for spotting enemy missiles/planes/ducks) -Ben. From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 13:10:36 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:10:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thank You/Stouffer on Canada AM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010322131036.27621.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> --- Roy Mallett Jr wrote: > First of all,THANK YOU,for accepting and Iam sorry > about an email I sent > about that woman on the other site. I'm still > learning how to use the > computer and internet. But I want to say thank you > to Jamieson,Heidi,and > BBennett for filling me in on what has been > happening to one of this > family's authors! My boys are 12 and 13 and love > JKR's books! We and myself > personally have never heard of this person or her > books! I have just turned > 48,how time flies, and never saw or heard about > anything of hers! I belong > to 5 book clubs for a very long time and nowhere has > anything showed up on > any club selections at anytime. So, I am really > shocked about this news. > Please keep us inform. Thank you,from,WitchWanda2002 > Stouffer was just on Canada AM (Jamieson, did you see that or were you in bed?). She didn't have much new to say, just went on about the similarities in the books. They showed a pic of her character next to a pic of Harry while she pointed out how much they looked the same. Even said the mouth was identical. She said that it had been her intention to re-publish her books when HP came out and that made it hard for her to find a publisher, especially in view of the lawsuits. She also said that it was never her intention to file a lawsuit and that she only did so because Time-Warner, JKR and Scholastic did so first. Another thing she stated was that the HP books only became known in the US in 1999 - can any of the Americans here let me know how much truth there is to that statement. She claimed that in 1999, when HP became popular, all kinds of people who read her books started calling her and telling her how JKR 'stole' her work. I'll give the tape (yeah, I taped it, I was busy getting ready for a conference today and wanted to make sure I didn't miss it) another look later and let you all know if I missed anything. Sheryll, keeping you informed ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 13:23:32 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:23:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The 1st day of spring In-Reply-To: <99bmfb+f41h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010322132332.29599.qmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> --- pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Trina" > wrote: > > Yesterday down South we had one whopper of a > storm--rain, ice, > sleet, > > snow, and wind! Ick! Here in Anderson we had rain > and wind and a > > little sleet and snow, but mainly the wind. At > 10:30 am the power > at > > school went out. And stayed out for the rest of > the day. > Naturally > > this happened just as some of the Kindergartners > were headed for > > lunch. Therefore we had rationing of the chicken > strips--one per > > child (they had to feed 687 students minus those > who brought their > > lunch) and cold creamed potatoes. But I must say > that the kids were > > absolute troupers and as a reward for the > excellent behaviour in > > times of trial we will have ice cream next week at > lunch time. IMO > I > > think the kids complained less than we teachers > did! > > > > It was cold and it was dark and I kept thinking > "If only I could > use > > Hermione's woodless fire charm! And a Lumos charm > would be handy as > > well." Is it yet another sign of my total HP > addiction that I also > > thought "Ah, excellent Quidditch weather!" ? > > > > Trina, who loves this forum for the sheer > silliness of its members. > > Trina, > > It rained here in Charleston, too (you're right, it > *was* excellent > Quidditch weather). Did they send the kids & > teachers home or did > you have to suffer all day? > > Parker, who could use a wand out here in the woods > for when the > lights go out > > PS: Anyone know a cooling charm? I'm going to need > one in a few > weeks :) > There first day of spring was absolutely wonderful here (Ottawa), 6 degrees Celsius. There I was, wandering downtown, no coat, regular shoes, considering putting the winter coat and boots in the basement. However, my husband reminded me that putting away the winter clothes is a sure way to bring back bad weather. So, here I sit, looking out the window at...yup, snow. And it will snow all day according to the Weather Network. Parker, I will trade a cooling charm for a warming one. Don't need anything to melt snow, as that is mostly gone, except for what's falling now and the 3 foot piles in my back yard (used to be 6 feet high) that just don't get enough sun. Sheryll, who desperately wants to be anywhere but Canada in the spring and is eternally grateful she no longer lives up north (annual snowfall in Goose Bay, Labrador - 14 feet) ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 22 13:42:09 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:42:09 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Nimbi References: <99crip+a75t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3ABA0131.B4C00861@texas.net> Benjamin wrote: > Isn't it a type of plane too? (presumably they got the name from > iconography) I think it is used as an airborne early warning system > (useful for spotting enemy missiles/planes/ducks) And we all know how devastating those enemy ducks can be.... --Amanda, ducking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 22 13:48:13 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:48:13 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The 1st day of spring References: <99bmfb+f41h@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3ABA029D.1FB211B8@texas.net> pbnesbit at msn.com wrote: > PS: Anyone know a cooling charm? I'm going to need one in a few weeks > :) Well, people keep trying to sneak into the San Jacinto School and snag a spellbook for just that very purpose, to fend off the Texas heat, but they keep getting turned into horned toads (which aren't toads, and do exist, for all you non-Texans out there). 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Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From heiditandy at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 14:20:51 2001 From: heiditandy at yahoo.com (heiditandy at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:20:51 -0000 Subject: I hate my email accounts Message-ID: <99d1o3+925r@eGroups.com> If you've sent me anything since about midnight, east coast time, please resend it to my Yahoo account or my work account, htandy @ carltonfields.com (you'll have to get rid of the spaces in that). I know this isn't even appropriate for the OT list, but I didn't know what else to do :( From heiditandy at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 14:30:54 2001 From: heiditandy at yahoo.com (heiditandy at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:30:54 -0000 Subject: Stouffer on Canada AM In-Reply-To: <20010322131036.27621.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <99d2au+f4fl@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Sheryll Townsend wrote: > They showed a pic of her character next to a pic of > Harry while she pointed out how much they looked the > same. Even said the mouth was identical. Ok, but that has nothing to do with JKR, and is completely related to Mary GrandPre's drawings, and IIRC, she's not a party to the litigation at all. And the only pic of Harry, IIRC again, in SS, was the cover picture where he's all intent on catching the snitch. Am I wrong? > Another thing she stated was that the HP books only > became known in the US in 1999 - can any of the > Americans here let me know how much truth there is to > that statement. She claimed that in 1999, when HP > became popular, all kinds of people who read her books > started calling her and telling her how JKR 'stole' > her work. No, it was released in September, 1998, and I bought a fourth printing, after an article about it ran in some major newspaper - I think the NY Times, in November or December of that year. I know I had it before the holidays because I sent it to my husband's then-5 year old cousin for Hanukah. Four printings is at least a bit popular, isn't it? From bray.262 at osu.edu Thu Mar 22 09:40:25 2001 From: bray.262 at osu.edu (Rachel Bray) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:40:25 EST5EDT Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <985219598.2327.48808.l7@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <12649C21AC@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> I pronounced Salisbury as "Salzbury". And the food as "Salzbury Steak." Then again, I'm from Ohio. And it's pronounced "A-hi-ya" and I grew up in Scioto County and it's pronounced "Sigh-o-dah" and my nearest town was Portsmouth but we pronounced it "Portsmith". My home town is Wheelersburg but we just call it The Burg. :-) Anyway.... When I was in England my favorite food I had there was Shepherd's Pie. YUM. I had it in this little restaurant outside of Bath (or was it in Bath?....hmmmm) and it was DELICIOUS! I've had it several times over here at different British pubs I've been to (Cat and Fiddle in Los Angeles has been the best so far) but none of them have come close to what it was like in England. Yum yum yum.... I do remember having pizza once when I was there, too. But it was at a Pizza Hut so....it wasn't that different. The only thing I didn't like about the food in UK was the lack of ice in my drinks. And at this one place I asked for iced tea and this woman looked at me like I asked her to do a strip tease for the table! Rachel Bray The Ohio State University Fees, Deposits and Disbursements A lady came up to me on the street, pointed at my suede jacket and said, "Don't you know a cow was murdered for that jacket?" I said "I didn't know there were any witnesses. Now I'll have to kill you too." From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 22 14:59:26 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:59:26 -0000 Subject: Ducks (was Re: Nimbi ) In-Reply-To: <3ABA0131.B4C00861@texas.net> Message-ID: <99d40e+mei9@eGroups.com> > > And we all know how devastating those enemy ducks can be.... Too right. Not only do they make a complete mess of the place, but they can probably carry foot and mouth too, _and_ they refuse to walk over the disinfecting mats... Better get them with a sea wolf missile, so they can't get into sheep's clothing... -Ben. "I know it's hopeless, nothing happens, I couldn't care less if I look a fool" From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 15:50:14 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:50:14 -0000 Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <12649C21AC@lincoln.treasurer.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <99d6vm+pnsn@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rachel Bray" wrote: > When I was in England my favorite food I had there was Shepherd's > Pie. YUM. I had it in this little restaurant outside of Bath (or was it > in Bath?....hmmmm) and it was DELICIOUS! I've had it several > times over here at different British pubs I've been to (Cat and Fiddle > in Los Angeles has been the best so far) but none of them have > come close to what it was like in England. Yum yum yum.... > The quality does vary, according to the skill of the shepherdess making it. But yes, a good shepherd's pie is a delight. Who needs Nouvelle Cuisine! > > The only thing I didn't like about the food in UK was the lack of ice > in my drinks. And at this one place I asked for iced tea and this > woman looked at me like I asked her to do a strip tease for the > table! > As long as you don't put it in your whisky ... filthy habit ;) Wotan From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 15:53:41 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:53:41 -0000 Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <99d6vm+pnsn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99d765+ghb7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Rachel Bray" wrote: > > > When I was in England my favorite food I had there was Shepherd's > > Pie. YUM. I had it in this little restaurant outside of Bath (or > was it > > in Bath?....hmmmm) and it was DELICIOUS! I've had it several > > times over here at different British pubs I've been to (Cat and > Fiddle > > in Los Angeles has been the best so far) but none of them have > > come close to what it was like in England. Yum yum yum.... > > > > The quality does vary, according to the skill of the shepherdess > making it. But yes, a good shepherd's pie is a delight. Who needs > Nouvelle Cuisine! Not to mention the quality of the shepherd. Decent quality meat is so hard to come by these days and keeps going up in price. This poor student is going to end up vegetarian if things get any worse. Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 15:59:27 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:59:27 -0000 Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <99d765+ghb7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99d7gv+ohqa@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > Not to mention the quality of the shepherd. Decent quality meat is so > hard to come by these days and keeps going up in price. This poor > student is going to end up vegetarian if things get any worse. > Marks & Sparks meat is passable if you don't have a decent local butcher, though not a patch on American steaks. Quite why this should be I don't know. Wotan From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 16:12:19 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:12:19 -0000 Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <99d7gv+ohqa@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99d893+nk21@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > > Not to mention the quality of the shepherd. Decent quality meat is > so > > hard to come by these days and keeps going up in price. This poor > > student is going to end up vegetarian if things get any worse. > > > > Marks & Sparks meat is passable if you don't have a decent local > butcher, though not a patch on American steaks. Quite why this should > be I don't know. Have the decent butchers (quite a few to choose from). Not the money to go to them often. Go to a organic butcher for sausages and they are very nice and not too expensive. Talking about M&S, I was in there today and they have some chocie HP stuff. A Norbert Easter egg, chocie frogs, broomsticks (thanks Ben) and some other stuff. May have to go and buy some at some stage. Just need to finish off my chocolate mountain first! SJB From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 16:44:03 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:44:03 -0000 Subject: Pronounciations and Brit food... In-Reply-To: <99d893+nk21@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99da4j+1v36@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > Talking about M&S, I was in there today and they have some chocie HP > stuff. A Norbert Easter egg, chocie frogs, broomsticks (thanks Ben) > and some other stuff. May have to go and buy some at some stage. But they'll never have the one thing I want - a real broomstick! Though of course if they did, it'd be the Firebolt, natch. I get jealous every time Hal goes for a spin ... It can't be Easter already, we've only just had Christmas. Wotan From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 17:03:15 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:03:15 -0000 Subject: Easter In-Reply-To: <99da4j+1v36@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99db8j+u5gf@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > It can't be Easter already, we've only just had Christmas. Yeah it is. I have been on Easter vac for nearly a fortnight now. Must onyl be about 35 days until Easter. Simon (who has been eating creme eggs for most of the second half of this past term (i.e. the bit after Valentine's day)). From wr7238 at worldnet.att.net Thu Mar 22 17:44:44 2001 From: wr7238 at worldnet.att.net (Roy Mallett Jr) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:44:44 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thank You/Stouffer on Canada AM In-Reply-To: <20010322131036.27621.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am very interested to know and will keep checking the emails! My son James read book one in 4th grade last year and I was told that in 1998 the 4th graders were reading book one! It just seems so strange that this person is starting such a raucous over her work, that I never heard about, that has been around for years! later,WitchWanda2002 -----Original Message----- From: Sheryll Townsend [mailto:s_ings at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:11 AM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Thank You/Stouffer on Canada AM --- Roy Mallett Jr wrote: > First of all,THANK YOU,for accepting and Iam sorry > about an email I sent > about that woman on the other site. I'm still > learning how to use the > computer and internet. But I want to say thank you > to Jamieson,Heidi,and > BBennett for filling me in on what has been > happening to one of this > family's authors! My boys are 12 and 13 and love > JKR's books! We and myself > personally have never heard of this person or her > books! I have just turned > 48,how time flies, and never saw or heard about > anything of hers! I belong > to 5 book clubs for a very long time and nowhere has > anything showed up on > any club selections at anytime. So, I am really > shocked about this news. > Please keep us inform. Thank you,from,WitchWanda2002 > Stouffer was just on Canada AM (Jamieson, did you see that or were you in bed?). She didn't have much new to say, just went on about the similarities in the books. They showed a pic of her character next to a pic of Harry while she pointed out how much they looked the same. Even said the mouth was identical. She said that it had been her intention to re-publish her books when HP came out and that made it hard for her to find a publisher, especially in view of the lawsuits. She also said that it was never her intention to file a lawsuit and that she only did so because Time-Warner, JKR and Scholastic did so first. Another thing she stated was that the HP books only became known in the US in 1999 - can any of the Americans here let me know how much truth there is to that statement. She claimed that in 1999, when HP became popular, all kinds of people who read her books started calling her and telling her how JKR 'stole' her work. I'll give the tape (yeah, I taped it, I was busy getting ready for a conference today and wanted to make sure I didn't miss it) another look later and let you all know if I missed anything. Sheryll, keeping you informed ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From tanwo at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 18:17:34 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:17:34 -0000 Subject: Easter In-Reply-To: <99db8j+u5gf@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99dfju+eq0o@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > It can't be Easter already, we've only just had Christmas. > > Yeah it is. I have been on Easter vac for nearly a fortnight now. > > Must onyl be about 35 days until Easter. > > > Simon (who has been eating creme eggs for most of the second half of > this past term (i.e. the bit after Valentine's day)). Academe eh? Creme eggs and long hols, I'd hate it ;) Wotan From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 22 18:26:58 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:26:58 -0600 Subject: Foot & Mouth (was Ducks) References: <99d40e+mei9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3ABA43F2.78B5F710@texas.net> Benjamin wrote: > Too right. Not only do they make a complete mess of the place, but > they can probably carry foot and mouth too, _and_ they refuse to walk > over the disinfecting mats... This has nothing to do with ducks, but it reminded me. There was a question about foot & mouth, its actual effect on animals (because it isn't fatal), and why all the slaughtering, why couldn't farmers just nurse their animals through it. So I asked my husband, who works in medical research, to ask his boss (a very experienced veterinarian). What he told me is that while foot & mouth is not fatal, it really isn't analogous to "just a case of the flu," which is a phrase I've seen when doing web searches. The duration is about six months. One of the effects is painful pustules or blisters on the feet and in the mouth, so the animals don't want to eat because it hurts them to. So they lose weight, seriously, and by the time they're over the disease, they're walking skeletons. It can take months, even up to two years, to feed an animal adequately to build it back up to where it is marketable, or even in a fit condition to breed. Often the feed you must give such a convalescent needs to be of higher quality than standard feed (and thus more expensive). While you are paying for their feed, you aren't bringing in any income, because foot and mouth is *so* incredibly contagious that all your animals have (had) it. In fact, my husband said there were instances where a farm was simply downwind of another farm where there was foot and mouth, and it spread that way. It's insanely contagious. So even assuming farmers had the option of nursing their herds through it, it's still essentially financial ruin, given the time for which the animals are actually sick (which is probably about seven to eight months, allowing for time to spread all through your animals, during whch you're paying for treatment, probably with lessened income), and then given the extended time for the convalescence of animals until they're up to a fit state. You'd have to sell the farm. This scenario, coupled with the fact that it's so very contagious and will rampage through a whole country doing this to just about ALL the livestock producers, does seem to give some grounds to the extreme measures taken to contain it. It's not a physical danger, but it's a serious threat of bankruptcy to an entire section of the economy. I had been curious, hearing that it didn't even affect humans, so I wanted to find out what the disease was all about. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at hp.inbox.as Thu Mar 22 18:28:33 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:28:33 -0000 Subject: Easter In-Reply-To: <99dfju+eq0o@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99dg8h+b0bu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > > It can't be Easter already, we've only just had Christmas. > > > > Yeah it is. I have been on Easter vac for nearly a fortnight now. > > > > Must onyl be about 35 days until Easter. > > > > > > Simon (who has been eating creme eggs for most of the second half > of > > this past term (i.e. the bit after Valentine's day)). > > Academe eh? Creme eggs and long hols, I'd hate it ;) Lazy is a better description. The long vacs are good, but made worse by the need to revise. They are expecting me to do a couple of exams next term and I need to learn some of the work, but that is something for when I am bored. Simon From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 22 19:46:58 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:58 -0000 Subject: Salisbury / Sarum In-Reply-To: <3AB8FBDF.B143AA86@texas.net> Message-ID: <99dkri+chk8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Benjamin wrote: > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > Linguistic student that I am, I cannot fathom how they got /sarum/ > from > Salisbury. Edinburgh I can about process. Worchestershire I can > see. But > this one's out there. >From the OED's etymology (which Simon didn't quote): [med.L. Sarum (indeclinable), app. evolved from a misunderstanding of the abbreviation Sarz for Sarisburia Salisbury.] (I love having access to the OED online. *So* much easier than consulting the paper volumes. Grateful thoughts to Rutgers for providing off-campus, alumnae(i) access to their network.) --jen :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Thu Mar 22 19:51:42 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:51:42 -0000 Subject: The Other Severus Message-ID: <99dl4e+l91t@eGroups.com> Last weekend, a print in the ladies room of a hotel caught my attention. The print was a pen-and-ink drawing of the Arch of Septimius Severus in Rome. Perhaps Rowling named Snape after this Severus? Could Snape be (somewhat) based upon the Historical Severus? If so, the next HP books will be VERY interesting indeed! http://www.roman-empire.net/decline/sept-severus.html :-)Milz From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Thu Mar 22 20:02:26 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:02:26 -0000 Subject: Salisbury / Sarum In-Reply-To: <99dkri+chk8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99dloi+nl1c@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jen" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > > Benjamin wrote: > > > > > Indeed not, it's pronounced Sarum. > > > Linguistic student that I am, I cannot fathom how they got /sarum/ > > from > > Salisbury. Edinburgh I can about process. Worchestershire I can > > see. But > > this one's out there. > > From the OED's etymology (which Simon didn't quote): > > [med.L. Sarum (indeclinable), app. evolved from a misunderstanding of > the abbreviation Sarz for Sarisburia Salisbury.] > > (I love having access to the OED online. *So* much easier than > consulting the paper volumes. Grateful thoughts to Rutgers for > providing off-campus, alumnae(i) access to their network.) > > --jen :) LOL, that reminds me of a town in Maryland called "Oxon Hill". I remember the school children legend claimed it was called so because farmers in colonial times grazed their oxen there and people on ships in the river used those animals on the hill as a landmark (get it, ox on hill). Later on, I read that the area was really named "Oxford-On- The-Hill" by Lord Baltimore because the area reminded him of Oxford. The maps shortened the name to "Ox. on the Hill" and eventually it was shortened further to "Oxon Hill". :-)Milz From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 22 20:08:18 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:08:18 -0000 Subject: Aircraft (was Re: Nimbi ) In-Reply-To: <3ABA0131.B4C00861@texas.net> Message-ID: <99dm3i+k2i4@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Benjamin wrote: > > > Isn't it a type of plane too? (presumably they got the name from > > iconography) I think it is used as an airborne early warning > > system (useful for spotting enemy missiles/planes/ducks) > > And we all know how devastating those enemy ducks can be.... > > --Amanda, ducking There has not been an aircraft by the name of Nimbus, AFAIK. There is however an aircraft-type called Nimrod, in service with the RAF. It was originally produced as a British alternative for AWACS- aircraft (AWACS = Airborne Warning And Control System - NATO's name for its AEW-system) for NATO and RAF, but NATO selected E3-Sentry (based on the Boeing 707) instead, and operating a British fleet of a separate type of AWACS-aircraft was too expensive. A number of airframes were in existence, however, and they have been converted to use as maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) instead. The present version in service is, IIRC, Nimrod Mk4. As an MPA, the aircraft has a radar to search for periscopes, a MAD- pod (MAD = Magnetic Anomaly Detector - it searches for variances in the earth's magnetic fields caused by large masses of metal) and dispensable sonar-buoys. It is armed with Marconi Stingray anti- submarine torpedoes, and can carry a pair of Sidewinder Air-to-Air missiles for self-defence. It can also carry Air-to-surface missiles to combat enemy shipping. The Nimrod is based on the Comet airliner (the world's first jet- powered airliner), and it is the world's only jet-powered MPA - all others (P3 Orion or Brequet Atlantique, for example) are powered by turboprops. It is possible that Embraer of Brazil is going to develop its EJ 135 and EJ 145 regional airliners in MPA-versions, however. New Nimrods are produced by rebuilding existing Comet airframes, which are stored for the purpose. Visual points of interest with the Nimrod (apart from the fact that it is a particularly ugly aircraft) are the engine-mountings. Most civilian jet-powered aircraft (and the Nimrod is a conversion of a civilian aircraft) have the engines mounted in one of the following ways: * below the wings (Boeing 747, Boeing 737, Airbus A310, DC8, DC10, MD11 - the Antonov An72 has its engines above the wings, with use on gravel-runways in mind) * on the side of the aft fuselage (BAC 1-11, VC10, DC9, Fokker 28, Fokker 100, Boeing 727) * in a tail-mounting (DC10, MD11, Lockheed Tristar, Boeing 727 - some single-engined business-jets also use this type of mounting). On the Nimrod, however, the engines are mounted in a fairing *inside* the wing-root. This is aerodynamically cleaner than the other solutions mentioned, but it is a real bother when it comes to engine- maintenance. Best regards Christian Stub? From aiz24 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 22 21:01:10 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:01:10 -0000 Subject: Tom Felton Message-ID: <99dp6m+61i6@eGroups.com> This is too fluffy to post on the main list, but I just want to express my glee that today I was in a video store where Anna and the King was playing (on about 10 TVs) and I had a very good time gazing up at soon-to-be-Draco. I thought he was excellent, and only tore myself away because I had to go to work. Woo-hoo! Amy Z From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 22 21:11:22 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:11:22 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Other Severus References: <99dl4e+l91t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <011101c0b314$a6a01240$8714a3d1@doreen> Last weekend, a print in the ladies room of a hotel caught my attention. The print was a pen-and-ink drawing of the Arch of Septimius Severus in Rome. Perhaps Rowling named Snape after this Severus? Could Snape be (somewhat) based upon the Historical Severus? If so, the next HP books will be VERY interesting indeed! http://www.roman-empire.net/decline/sept-severus.html :-)Milz ################################# JKR tells us that she has always collected names. She also likes the Latin words. She very well could have gotten his name from this Severus. I also noticed the word, "prefect" and the name, "Albinus." Albinus = Albus? The line about Severus being careful about what he desired to accomplish and careless about what people said about him is "spot on" about Snape too. Very interesting read. Thanks. Doreen ################################### From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 01:14:43 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:14:43 -0000 Subject: Salisbury / Sarum In-Reply-To: <99dkri+chk8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99e823+q7d8@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jen" wrote: > (I love having access to the OED online. *So* much easier than > consulting the paper volumes. Grateful thoughts to Rutgers for > providing off-campus, alumnae(i) access to their network.) > Have you (or Simon?) any experience of the CD-ROM version? I'm wondering about getting a copy. Wotan From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 23 02:16:15 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:16:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Salisbury / Sarum In-Reply-To: <99e823+q7d8@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 tanwo at hotmail.com wrote: > Have you (or Simon?) any experience of the CD-ROM version? I'm > wondering about getting a copy. I haven't ever seen the CD-ROM, though the OED website seems to be indicating that it's like the website in its interface. The website is very easy to use, search time is good, and it does of course have the full text of the OED. Now, personally, I can't imagine having enough need of the OED to pay the $295 fee for the CD-ROM (let alone the $550/$795+ per year for access to the website). At those prices, I'd go to the library and use it. There's plenty of other online/CD-ROM dictionaries to fulfill normal dictionary functions; the only difference with the OED is the extensive quotations and its authoritative nature. YMMV, of course. --jen :) From s_ings at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 02:18:20 2001 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:18:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Stouffer on Canada AM In-Reply-To: <99d2au+f4fl@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <20010323021820.23719.qmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> --- heiditandy at yahoo.com wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Sheryll Townsend > wrote: > > They showed a pic of her character next to a pic > of > > Harry while she pointed out how much they looked > the > > same. Even said the mouth was identical. > Ok, but that has nothing to do with JKR, and is > completely related to > Mary GrandPre's drawings, and IIRC, she's not a > party to the > litigation at all. And the only pic of Harry, IIRC > again, in SS, was > the cover picture where he's all intent on catching > the snitch. Am I > wrong? It was hard to tell anything about the picture they showed, other than the fact that it was Harry. It was such a close up of the picture that all they showed was his face, you couldn't see the rest. > > > Another thing she stated was that the HP books > only > > became known in the US in 1999 - can any of the > > Americans here let me know how much truth there is > to > > that statement. She claimed that in 1999, when HP > > became popular, all kinds of people who read her > books > > started calling her and telling her how JKR > 'stole' > > her work. > No, it was released in September, 1998, and I bought > a fourth > printing, after an article about it ran in some > major newspaper - I > think the NY Times, in November or December of that > year. I know I > had it before the holidays because I sent it to my > husband's then-5 > year old cousin for Hanukah. Four printings is at > least a bit > popular, isn't it? You would think so, wouldn't you. Thanks for filling in the facts for me. I had no idea when the books became popular in the US. Sheryll ===== "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Fri Mar 23 02:50:25 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 02:50:25 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <003c01c0b0e4$7b19e2e0$3e14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <99edlh+djfp@eGroups.com> "They're what you get when you cross a manticore with a fire-crab," said Hagrid inscrutably. "But are they friendly?" asked Ron cuttingly. "I wish the Sorting Hat would shut up about Slytherin," said Harry captiously. - CMC From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 10:11:41 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:11:41 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <99edlh+djfp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99f7gt+a5re@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > "They're what you get when you cross a manticore with a fire-crab," > said Hagrid inscrutably. "But are they friendly?" asked Ron > cuttingly. > > "I wish the Sorting Hat would shut up about Slytherin," said Harry > captiously. > > - CMC Groan! From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 23 11:26:07 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:26:07 -0000 Subject: Salisbury / Sarum / Oxford In-Reply-To: <99dloi+nl1c@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99fbsf+od4i@eGroups.com> > LOL, that reminds me of a town in Maryland called "Oxon Hill". I remember the school children legend claimed it was called so because farmers in colonial times grazed their oxen there and people on ships in the river used those animals on the hill as a landmark (get it, ox on hill). Later on, I read that the area was really named "Oxford-On- The-Hill" by Lord Baltimore because the area reminded him of Oxford. The maps shortened the name to "Ox. on the Hill" and eventually it was shortened further to "Oxon Hill".<<< Well, they are partly right, Oxford (as in the real one in England) was originally Oxen Ford (saw it on an old map) and the City shield is a red bull (or presumably an Ox) crossing a blue river. So 'twas just a different hill they were grazing on. Wait a minute, that hardly makes any sense does it? -Ben. From bassettlover at aol.com Fri Mar 23 15:46:38 2001 From: bassettlover at aol.com (bassettlover at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:46:38 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jet Lag Message-ID: Rena:"For me, going east is worse than going west. When I travel from Ca to Germany, I usually arrive before noon and then have to keep myself awake till evening. Most of the time I crash by 3 pm and then I'm awake most of the night. Going home is a breeze. I arrive in the late afternoon, early evening, unpack shower and get some good sleep. No problem what so ever Traveling form coast to coast is never a problem for me. Three hour time difference is no big deal after learning to deal with a nine hour time difference." When I went to Germany from California last March, going east and west bothered me. Going East, we arrived at 23:00, and I couldn't go to sleep. Then, a couple of days later, I went to bed at 22:00, and got up at 13:30. Coming back to Callifornia, I want to bed at 22:00, and woke up at 4:30, ready to start the day. THe same thing happened for a while, I'd go to bed around 22:00, and wake up around 5:00. Then, a month ago, I moved to Germany, and the time difference didn't bother me at all. I went to bed at 21:30, and got up at 8:00, and wasn't sleepy, or on weird time at all. Except, I did wake up at 23:00, and thought it was 11:00, but after I realized what time it was, I had no problem going back to sleep. I then haad to go to school the day after that, and getting up at six didn't bother me.(Neither did going to bed at 21:00) So, I think it really depends on the trip for me. Jennie From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Fri Mar 23 16:33:22 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:33:22 -0000 Subject: The Other Severus In-Reply-To: <011101c0b314$a6a01240$8714a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <99ftsi+quq0@eGroups.com> "Doreen" wrote: > JKR tells us that she has always collected names. She also likes the Latin > words. She very well could have gotten his name from this Severus. > > I also noticed the word, "prefect" and the name, "Albinus." Albinus = > Albus? > > The line about Severus being careful about what he desired to accomplish and > careless about what people said about him is "spot on" about Snape too. > Notice the bit about Septimius Severus being known for his cruelty? Also the bit where after he got into power he made a number of concessions to the military, because the military backed him up during his rise. It sort of reminded me of Snape's relationship with the Slytherin students. :-)Milz From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 23 16:50:09 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:50:09 -0000 Subject: Marylebone/Pall Mall Message-ID: <99fus1+h451@eGroups.com> Hi all, I'm still in NY, but on the verge of leaving for my flight back to London. I've been trying to keep an eye on these lists so I don't have to read 1000 posts when I get back home. I think it was Scott who asked how to pronounce the words Marylebone and Pall Mall? Marylebone (derived from St Mary Le Bon) is pronounced MARRY-l'bone (or MARR-l'bone), but there isn't much of a pause between the individual syllables. Pall Mall is pronounced Pal Mal. Personally, I'd pronounce Salisbury as SOLLS-bree, but SAULS-bree is probably more authentic. Neil From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 23 17:10:40 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:10:40 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering Message-ID: <99g02g+da3j@eGroups.com> Some of us met up in New York yesterday (braving harsh wind and rain) and it was great fun seeing even more HP fans in the flesh. I've now met 13 members of HPfGU in total - hey, it's a coven!. I met up with John, Jeralyn, Jim (Ferer) and Sinead (who came all the way from Boston) at the gorgeous Grand Central Station and John took us all to this cool Dim Sum place in China Town, where we were joined by Joywitch (who'd come from Washington). John and I doled out English sweets and Jeralyn had made some really groovy HPfGU membership cards. Later, after searching for an elusive 'cawfee' hangout (we ended up at one of Joy's old college haunts), we met up with two newer members - Lou and Emily - and later some of us went on for Italian food nearby. I've checked out of the Cher room now and waved a fond farewell to the leopardskin-and-sheet-metal wall treatment. I haven't really seen the tourist sights of New York on this trip (the weather really has been hell), so I guess I'll be back again soon to do the tourist bit - and Lou promised me the guided tour ;-) I think I'll try to get booked into the Star Trek room next time. Heather - I didn't even try the pizza...! Neil Flying Ford Anglia From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 18:23:01 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:23:01 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering In-Reply-To: <99g02g+da3j@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99g4a5+851o@eGroups.com> SOunds like I should have popped up to New York. It's only... 8 hours? HOW could you not try the pizza! In fact, I'm going to order one right now. De-livery is de-vine. Heather, who seems to be getting over the jet lag as far as sleep is concerned, but whose stomack wants to eat meals both on North Carolina and London time. From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Mar 23 19:05:37 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:05:37 -0000 Subject: Tom Swifties In-Reply-To: <99f7gt+a5re@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99g6q1+ghf1@eGroups.com> "...his fathomless black eyes," wrote Jo soundlessly. Pippin From voicelady at mymailstation.com Fri Mar 23 18:44:19 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:44:19 EDT Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HPfGU New York gathering Message-ID: Yeah, it really was a good time and so nice to meet face to face! So to all of you out there who've been hesitant about group meetings, go for it! You'll be glad you did. Only one bad thing about yesterday - the weather was horrendous! Suffice it to say - I woke up with an awful cold this morning and have been sniffling all day. But you know what? I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If anyone would like a membership card, send me an email offlist with your address. Jeralyn From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 23 20:44:19 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:44:19 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering In-Reply-To: <99g02g+da3j@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99gcj3+3b96@eGroups.com> Damn, that sounded like fun. I missed my chance when Carole and Sinead got together in Boston for the New England edition. If we do another one in the near future, I won't miss it. Amy Z From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 20:52:56 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:52:56 -0000 Subject: Chapel Hill, NC meeting Message-ID: <99gd38+gmq2@eGroups.com> I just discovered another HP4GU member lives in Chapel Hill NC. Sooooo.... we're going to meet up. Anyone else in our neck of the woods? Heather M. From lrcjestes at earthlink.net Fri Mar 23 21:05:13 2001 From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (lrcjestes at earthlink.net) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:05:13 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering - maybe New England In-Reply-To: <99gcj3+3b96@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99gdq9+ds2t@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Damn, that sounded like fun. I missed my chance when Carole and > Sinead got together in Boston for the New England edition. If we do > another one in the near future, I won't miss it. > > Amy Z Are you up here? Where? and When should we get together again? carole PS Are there any other New Englanders who want to try to get together? From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 24 00:51:49 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:51:49 -0800 Subject: Mostly names, also leopard hotel, also FMD ... Message-ID: <3ABBEFA3.3F732D42@wicca.net> I visited Milz's URL for Severus Caesar, which began by giving his name, Lucius Septimus Severus. Apparently JKR got TWO names from him. It said his father's name was Publius Septimus Geta. I've NEVER understood Roman names, despite many explanations, but if the last name means the whole clan and the middle name means the specific patrilineage within the clan, shouldn't father and son have the same middle and last names? St. John, St. Mary, St. Clare ... Sinjin, Simmery, Sinclair ... the second is the address of the eponymous sorcerer of the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta ("number seventy simmery axe") and the third used to be a brand of gasoline which IIRC boasted that it was made out of dinosaurs. Put a tyrannosaur in your tank? There was some news on the radio maybe a year ago in which the reporters in London (was it the big pro-fox-hunting demo?) kept mentioning what I eventually figured out was The Mall, except they kept pronouncing it Mao (like meow minus the eeee). Mall *properly* rhymes with all and sounds almost the same as maul, except I don't know how all you other people pronounce all and maul. To me, 'data' is a mass noun, like 'grass' or 'wheat' or 'corn' or 'flour'. These mass nouns have no singular ('datum' has NOTHING to do with number crunching), are 'some' rather than 'a', and take a singular verb. The flour goes in first. This corn tastes good. The grass needs to be watered. The wheat was grown in Jenny's own garden plot. The data indicates that the voters hate all the candidates. I laughed my head off about Neil's hotel experience, both Neil's description and the comments on it, with especial kudos to Amy Z -- "I returned to my room, only to find that I couldn't remember which one I was in" That's the cliche about housing tracts "(the doors are unmarked and made of metal sheeting, a bit like those on prison cells)." Laughter at the idea that visitors to NYC needed to be imprisoned more than the locals do! "Consequently, I tried to enter my neighbour's room and woke her up" At first reading, I was frightened she might scream and have you arrested as burglar or rapist. "(except she wasn't alone: she had two men in there, as I found out later)." Oooh, was the implication correct? "The Cher-themed room is covered in leopard print: the walls, carpet, ceiling, lamp, shelves and table. This is mixed with industrial sheet metal." One time Jim Miles and I went to a Claes Oldenberg retrospective at Museum of Contemporary Art. One of the Oldenberg pieces is -- it's not a stage a set, but it's made like a stage set, three-dimensional objects that are made trapezoidal so that the audience will reference the idea of perspective -- of a motel room decorated in a multitude of clashing fake fur animal prints, plus lots of mirrored surfaces (don't remember if there was a mirror on the ceiling). Jim, always pleased when there was something he actually understood, told met that that is a motel room in Los Vegas, because Los Vegas is the only place in the world where everything is tacky and sleazy (it is required by zoning) and all tacky, sleazy things can be found there [thus, the connection between that room and Cher]. The docent interrupted that Jim was ALMOST right, but the oeuvre had actually been inspired by Oldenberg's stay in a Malibu motel where each room was decorated in a different animal print. At this point, I should mention that here I live in Venice, two miles up the coast is Santa Monica (walking distance for healthy people, not for me), five more miles up the coast is Pacific Palisades where I lived from second grade through high school, and next up the coast (five miles? maybe ten?) is Malibu, home of the J. Paul Getty Museum Villa, and of Hughes Research Lab where my father worked. To me, Malibu is a place (named from Chumash word 'maliwa' meaning the sound of surf) not a make a Chevrolet. "(It's so noisy here!!!) " Oh, God, yes! When I first took a job in New York, I had to spend a couple of nights in a mid-town Manhattan hotel (thank God I didn't have to PAY for it!) and I COULD NOT BELIEVE the constant noise! I was used to traffic and boomboxes all night, but to garbage cans being clanged again only once per morning, not all night long... "To this day I can reduce my husband to helpless giggles by announcing "There is no cause for alahm."" LMHO I heard a thing on the news about FMD in South America. IIRC, it said that South America has never been FMD-free, so Argentina and Brazil are not allowed to export fresh meat to North America or Europe, so Brazil divided itself into five districts, each of which strives to become FMD-free by an extensive vaccination campaign, which costs $1 per cow per year, and one of these districts had already, at the beginning of this year, petitioned to be recognized as FMD-free, and now the disaster in Britain and Europe is making them have second thoughts, such as that they might be wise to keep on their vaccination campaign forever. I am very confused about the above information -- it appears to contradict the information of the other 'experts' they interviewed, such as the one who said that vaccination is no good because a vaccinated cow is just as contagious as an infected cow, and the several who said that FMS spreading to wildlife is not only ineradicable, but will kill off important endangered species. Does anyone here have any facts? -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 01:49:21 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:49:21 -0000 Subject: Mostly names, also leopard hotel, also FMD ... In-Reply-To: <3ABBEFA3.3F732D42@wicca.net> Message-ID: <99guf2+4qpe@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catlady wrote: > > I am very confused about the above information -- it appears to > contradict the information of the other 'experts' they interviewed, such > as the one who said that vaccination is no good because a vaccinated cow > is just as contagious as an infected cow, and the several who said that > FMS spreading to wildlife is not only ineradicable, but will kill off > important endangered species. Does anyone here have any facts? > -- Just a factlette - there was a brief mention on the BBC news this evening that vaccination is once again "an option" as far as the government is concerned. Probably code for "we don't have a clue what to do". Wotan From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sat Mar 24 02:10:07 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:10:07 -0000 Subject: Chapel Hill, NC meeting In-Reply-To: <99gd38+gmq2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99gvlv+5q8e@eGroups.com> Cary here. -Jim F. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I just discovered another HP4GU member lives in Chapel Hill NC. > Sooooo.... we're going to meet up. Anyone else in our neck of the > woods? > > Heather M. From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 24 02:40:01 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:40:01 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] FMD References: <3ABBEFA3.3F732D42@wicca.net> Message-ID: <3ABC0901.7EF64A8B@texas.net> Catlady wrote: > I heard a thing on the news about FMD in South America. IIRC, it said > that South America has never been FMD-free, so Argentina and Brazil > are > not allowed to export fresh meat to North America or Europe, so Brazil > > divided itself into five districts, each of which strives to become > FMD-free by an extensive vaccination campaign, which costs $1 per cow > per year, and one of these districts had already, at the beginning of > this year, petitioned to be recognized as FMD-free, and now the > disaster > in Britain and Europe is making them have second thoughts, such as > that > they might be wise to keep on their vaccination campaign forever. > > I am very confused about the above information -- it appears to > contradict the information of the other 'experts' they interviewed, > such > as the one who said that vaccination is no good because a vaccinated > cow > is just as contagious as an infected cow, and the several who said > that > FMS spreading to wildlife is not only ineradicable, but will kill off > important endangered species. Does anyone here have any facts? Come Monday, I'll have Jan ask his boss about the vaccine. Perhaps there's more than one type, like the "killed" vs. the "live" polio vaccines. You could catch polio from the old "live" oral vaccine, if you hadn't already been vaccinated. Perhaps once the population has all been vaccinated, as in the human population with polio, the vaccination is effective, but putting a vaccinated animal in with non-vaccinated is disaster? Just speculating. I'll let you know when I find out anything. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 02:45:33 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:45:33 -0000 Subject: Chapel Hill, NC meeting In-Reply-To: <99gvlv+5q8e@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99h1od+j0ri@eGroups.com> Cool! Heather --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > Cary here. > > -Jim F. > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > I just discovered another HP4GU member lives in Chapel Hill NC. > > Sooooo.... we're going to meet up. Anyone else in our neck of the > > woods? > > > > Heather M. From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 24 03:48:36 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:48:36 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Amanda's photo References: <98mknh+s78l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3ABC1914.4B477BB1@texas.net> I'm sorry, I have the manners of a goat (apologies to Aberforth's Goat, but my mom used to say that all the time, along with "were you born in a barn?"). Thank you to everyone who posted all the complimentary things about the picture! I still have the dress, allowing myself the delusion that someday I'll get into it again... --Amanda, who had what it takes, once upon a time, then forgot where she put it, then figured she couldn't remember what to do with it anyway From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 24 04:12:13 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:12:13 -0000 Subject: The Other Severus In-Reply-To: <99ftsi+quq0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99h6qt+jqsl@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., absinthe at m... wrote: > "Doreen" wrote: > > Notice the bit about Septimius Severus being known for his cruelty? > > Also the bit where after he got into power he made a number of > concessions to the military, because the military backed him up during > his rise. It sort of reminded me of Snape's relationship with the > Slytherin students. > > :-)Milz Severus was passionately addicted to the vain studies of magic and divination, deeply versed in the interpretation of dreams and omens, and perfectly acquainted with the science of judicial astrology......... - Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Chap. 6 From aboyko at nb.sympatico.ca Sat Mar 24 04:24:17 2001 From: aboyko at nb.sympatico.ca (Angela Boyko) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:24:17 -0400 Subject: Those darn Muggles! Message-ID: <3ABC2170.4B5C431F@nb.sympatico.ca> I know this group will understand when I share what happens when Muggles encounter the Harry Potter world: Last Saturday, I went to a local mall to browse. (And found "Fantastic Beasts" and "Quidditch Through the Ages" at Chapters!) Unbeknownst to me, there was a Harry Potter look-a-like contest (for kids) scheduled to start in five minutes. Quite a nice surprise to walk into! I decided to stick around and watch. The kids looked really cute. There were seven Harrys, a couple of Hermiones, and a ghost. First the announcer got up and introduced the judges/employees from mall stores that sell Harry Potter products. Then she asked some trivia questions of the crowd, and it became clear that she was a Muggle. She hadn't read the books! It got worse when the contest started. Each child came on stage and was asked a trivia question. The Muggle couldn't pronounce Quidditch. I began to wonder if she was a last minute replacement for someone who actually knew what they were doing but got cursed with the flu. The trivia questions for the children were multiple choice. Easy enough for the kids, but the Muggle seemed to find something funny about the questions, much like Dudley would poke fun at "Quidditch Through the Ages" if he ever got his sticky hands on it - "They fly around on brooms? How stupid is that? Har har har!" Then it got really bad. The third contestant got on stage (and the cutest little Harry, IMO). She read the question, and two of the multiple choice answers (there were four to be read). The kid softly gave her the right answer (which she hadn't read aloud) and she just had such a "Who cares? These silly questions!" attitude that I left. What could have been a cute and enjoyable contest was ruined by this babbling Muggle who was clearly enjoying being on stage, but was *disrespectful* of the subject! I just had to get that out. Have a groovy weekend. Angela -- Behold Angela the Brave! ICQ: 65588507 New Brunswick, Canada, eh? AIM: angelamermaid http://www.geocities.com/ochfd42/index.html "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." Robert A. Heinlein From TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM Sat Mar 24 06:18:35 2001 From: TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM (TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:18:35 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? Message-ID: <41.9319fd0.27ed963b@aol.com> HI, MY NAME IS TIGGER AND I DON'T POST HERE MUCH BECAUSE MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK IN ALL CAPS... SORRY FOR THAT.... HOWEVER I DO ENJOY READING ALL THE WONDERFUL STORIES.... AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE LIVES IN MY NECK OF THE COUNTRY? TIGGER From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 24 07:08:04 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Rita Winston) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:08:04 -0000 Subject: The Other Severus In-Reply-To: <99ftsi+quq0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99hh4k+22ah@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., absinthe at m... wrote: > Also the bit where after he got into power he made a number of > concessions to the military, because the military backed him up > during his rise. It sort of reminded me of Snape's relationship > with the Slytherin students. **I** think Snape loves all his dreadful Slytherin students (in a paternal way) and hopes and believes that he is teaching them to turn away from the Dark Side and have happy lives. From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 08:29:04 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:29:04 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Message-ID: Hi Amanda, Well, we have an id on the ring :) According to an arts expert who saw the picture of the ring, the lion in it is the symbol of Jerusalem. These rings were worn by men on their pinkies, to symbolize their loyalty to Jerusalem. She says that 50-60 years ago, these men's rings were very common, but now they're considered antique. Well, if you ever find a picture of the pendant, mail it over, and i'll show it to her. Thanks, Yael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being very well-dressed nails." - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 24 08:43:25 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:43:25 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? References: <41.9319fd0.27ed963b@aol.com> Message-ID: <01e101c0b43e$7e41fe00$5514a3d1@doreen> Hi Tigger I dont live in Tennessee, but have you tried using the "shift key" to get out of all caps? Doreen ***************************** HI, MY NAME IS TIGGER AND I DON'T POST HERE MUCH BECAUSE MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK IN ALL CAPS... SORRY FOR THAT.... HOWEVER I DO ENJOY READING ALL THE WONDERFUL STORIES.... AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE LIVES IN MY NECK OF THE COUNTRY? TIGGER To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From simon at hp.inbox.as Sat Mar 24 09:41:22 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Pigwidgeon) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 09:41:22 -0000 Subject: Mostly names, also leopard hotel, also FMD ... In-Reply-To: <99guf2+4qpe@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99hq42+mjee@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catlady wrote: > > > > I am very confused about the above information -- it appears to > > contradict the information of the other 'experts' they interviewed, > such > > as the one who said that vaccination is no good because a > vaccinated cow > > is just as contagious as an infected cow, and the several who said > that > > FMS spreading to wildlife is not only ineradicable, but will kill > off > > important endangered species. Does anyone here have any facts? > > -- > > Just a factlette - there was a brief mention on the BBC news this > evening that vaccination is once again "an option" as far as the > government is concerned. Probably code for "we don't have a clue what > to do". I heard the following yesterday, but stess that I do not know if it is true. If it is then it really shows what politicans are like. In the UK we have local government elections coming up (3rd May IIRC). Under UK law elections cannot be held when a state of emergency has been declared. To call the military in properly (rather than just the military police as we have already done), to help out, constitutes declaring a national emergency. So, as the Government does not want the elections cancelled, they will not call in the military. As I said I do not know if this is true, but p*sses me off to think it might be. Be back in a few weeks. Simon From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 11:35:26 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:35:26 -0000 Subject: Mostly names, also leopard hotel, also FMD ... In-Reply-To: <99hq42+mjee@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99i0pu+svp5@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Pigwidgeon" wrote: > > I heard the following yesterday, but stess that I do not know if it > is true. If it is then it really shows what politicans are like. > > In the UK we have local government elections coming up (3rd May > IIRC). Under UK law elections cannot be held when a state of > emergency has been declared. To call the military in properly (rather > than just the military police as we have already done), to help out, > constitutes declaring a national emergency. So, as the Government > does not want the elections cancelled, they will not call in the > military. > > As I said I do not know if this is true, but p*sses me off to think > it might be. > Sounds very true! And there was that claim recently that two weeks or so before the first outbreak, the Ministry of Agriculture & Fisheries (MAF) was contacting wood merchants asking to buy large stocks of kindling wood. There is also a claim (in Private Eye, so read into it what you will) that MAF knew of the problem in December last year and sent warnings in strict confidence to other European governments. Wotan (For our American readers - Private Eye is a 'scurrilous' magazine that pokes fun at the Establishment, but which nevertheless has come up with some great scoops in its time) From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 12:37:46 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:37:46 -0000 Subject: Marylebone/Pall Mall In-Reply-To: <99fus1+h451@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99i4eq+rdnq@eGroups.com> Neil said ... "Marylebone (derived from St Mary Le Bon) is pronounced MARRY-l'bone (or MARR-l'bone), but there isn't much of a pause between the individual syllables. Pall Mall is pronounced Pal Mal. Personally, I'd pronounce Salisbury as SOLLS-bree, but SAULS-bree is probably more authentic." Just to add more confusion, central Londoners tend to slur the pronunciation of Marylebone to MAIR-BN or *even* something not far off MBN. I have heard Pall Mall pronounced as Pell Mell as well. I've always said SAULS-bree for Salisbury. When it comes to pronunciation, it's important to remember that people to whom the object or place is familiar do tend to slur the pronunciation. Alnwick, a town in Northumberland (where they filmed part of the movie, apparently) - you would think would be pronounced AULN-WICK but locals say ANN-ICK. I have also heard (but am not sure) that people from Philadelphia pronounce their city as FUL-UFF- IA - can any Philadelphians confirm? *Al saunters vaguely westwards* From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 15:36:45 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:36:45 -0000 Subject: Those darn Muggles! In-Reply-To: <3ABC2170.4B5C431F@nb.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <99ieud+10gog@eGroups.com> You should have stood up, announced, "Pardon me, but I have an honorary diploma from Hogwarts and I really should be handling this," shoved her aside, and showed her how it's done. The kids would've cheered. Amy Z who was, clearly, born in a barn From aiz24 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 15:39:02 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 15:39:02 -0000 Subject: ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? In-Reply-To: <01e101c0b43e$7e41fe00$5514a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <99if2m+42hg@eGroups.com> There're a couple of Kentuckians on this list--that's basically the same place, right? ;-) Amy Z stirring up trouble on a lazy Saturday morning From minerva at femgeeks.net Sat Mar 24 16:56:43 2001 From: minerva at femgeeks.net (minerva at femgeeks.net) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 16:56:43 -0000 Subject: Fanfic sig snippet et al Message-ID: <99ijkb+f2el@eGroups.com> In HP4GU, Rita reacted to my sig: <> See, I'm not sure if I *can*. This decided to flow through my brian and get stuck there until I wrote it down. [That happens far too often, btw.] But it doesn't fit in with the story I'm currently writing, I don't think, and I can't start a new story while I'm working on this. I will, however, try. [I am but a slave to the masses. ] Sofie ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* - I could offer you a power beyond your wildest imagination, Potter. - I don't want that kind of power. - You're just afraid of it. (Draco and Harry; contextless snippetty conversation in my head) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* site: http://www.femgeeks.net/minerva | email: minerva[at] femgeeks.net IRC: chatnet #femgeeks | MSM: femgeek at hotmail.com | AIM: badevilgrrl From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 24 17:47:55 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson Wolf Villeneuve) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:47:55 -0000 Subject: Penny Dredfule--part one Message-ID: <99imkb+d9ub@eGroups.com> Hey everyone! Well, I've finally done it! I've written the first part of my very first HP Fanfic. You can read it at either HP4GU in the FanFic files, or you can read it at the HPFF group, under files. Hope you all enjoy reading, and if I could get constructive criticism, that would be amazing and much appriciated! Hugs to all, Jamieson (Who loves Hermione because she's a strong woman character, and thinks Dumbledore would make a great Muggle!) From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 24 19:44:15 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:44:15 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> Message-ID: <3ABCF90F.8AA0DA5C@texas.net> Wow, yael, you really came through! I know the pendant's in one of my many boxes of jewelry, but there's a lot of it because I've been in my medieval group so long that I have zillions of strings of garnets, tigereye, down to lots of cheap little beads that just look neat--people give them as gifts, etc. Plus you have the costume stuff that was my Mom's. I just can't remember which box it's in. I don't even remember where all the boxes are (we finished a room in our house, and all the stuff that had been stored there while it was unfinished is still piled in the garage in no particular order). Is there a name for this type of inset? Does she know what the materials are? I don't think the clear part is crystal, but I'm not sure it's a real hard polymer of some kind, either. Thanks again, Amanda yael-pou wrote: > Hi Amanda, Well, we have an id on the ring :) According to an arts > expert who saw the picture of the ring, the lion in it is the symbol > of Jerusalem. These rings were worn by men on their pinkies, to > symbolize their loyalty to Jerusalem. She says that 50-60 years ago, > these men's rings were very common, but now they're considered > antique. Well, if you ever find a picture of the pendant, mail it > over, and i'll show it to her. Thanks, Yael > > ------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "Their clothes were cut off the edge of the latest > fashion, which was currently inclining towards wide > hats, padded shoulders, narrow waists and pointed > shoes and gave its followers the appearance of being > very well-dressed nails." > - Terry Pratchett, Pyramids. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail68.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail69.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM Sat Mar 24 19:48:53 2001 From: TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM (TTTIGERESS at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:48:53 EST Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? Message-ID: <92.122c4990.27ee5425@aol.com> In a message dated 3/24/01 3:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, nera at rconnect.com writes: << Hi Tigger I dont live in Tennessee, but have you tried using the "shift key" to get out of all caps? >> YES I HAVE... IN ORDER TO TYPE IN LOWER CASE I HAVE TO HOLD DOWN BOTH OF MY SHIFT KEYS.... IT'S BEEN IN AND OUTTA THE SHOP... BUT THEY CAN'T FIND THE REASON... TIGGER From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 24 20:27:40 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:27:40 -0800 Subject: the name Hooch Message-ID: <3ABD033B.CA390C3B@wicca.net> Does anyone have any idea what ethnicity the name "Hooch" is? I thought it might be Irish, maybe because its sounds a little like "Lynch" (Tim says his father's mother's father was a Lynch), and maybe because of the connection with rotgut booze. But then I thought it might be Welsh, the second syllable of Culhwch -- the name Culhwch means 'pig run' (like dog run, it's the pen to keep them in) but I can't remember whether the 'pig' part is Cul or Hwch. -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From klaatu at primenet.com Sat Mar 24 21:35:23 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:35:23 -0700 Subject: Book of Questions #17 Message-ID: Rummaging around in my piles of books, I came across a little gem from a decade or so ago, called "The Book of Questions" -- Anybody want to answer this one below? Even if you only answer it to yourself, the questions are intriguing and thought-provoking. It's also fun to answer the same question and then answer it again five years later, just to see if your answer has changed much. (And is there any interest in my posting other questions from the book....) QUESTION: 17. Would you be willing to become extremely ugly physically if it meant you would live for a thousand years at any physical age you chose? **Auxiliary question : How much are you affected by a person's physical appearance? How would it change your life if something happened to make you much less attractive than you are now? Do you find anything disturbing about immortality? What age seems ideal to you? FROM: THE BOOK OF QUESTIONS Gregory Stock (1985, 1987 Workman Publishing Company, Inc. SML ============================================== Before death takes what has been given to you, you must give away everything you can give. ---Rumi ============================================== From zsenya at sugarquill.com Sat Mar 24 21:50:23 2001 From: zsenya at sugarquill.com (zsenya at sugarquill.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:50:23 -0000 Subject: Jet Lag In-Reply-To: <99acnu+76qp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99j4qv+2mia@eGroups.com> > The question is, which way to most people feel is worse? East, or > West? > > Heather I just remembered about this list and am catching up as well. I'm glad to hear that the London meeting was fun and am sorry I missed it (I got to go see "Art" in Milton Keynes instead! It was hilarious) Generally, for me, heading east is worse. For some reason, two or three days later I'm still feeling sort of hazy. On my most recent trip last week though, I have to say that I pretty much avoided jet lag throughout. When I arrived in England, my friend kept me up late and I had a good night's sleep and was well rested and alert for the rest of the week. Coming home, well, I was up for about 20 hours, considering that my friend decided she wanted to drive me to Gatwick (I volunteered to take the train) and it took us 3 hours through London traffic to get there. I got back to the states around 4:30 pm (after the most hellacious, bumpy, scary landing I've ever had the pleasure to sit through. I hate flying). And only managed to stay awake until 8 pm. But, that meant that I had been up more than 20 hours. For some reason though, that one early night was enough. I've been fine ever since. It's my third day back and I'm still waiting for haziness to attack, but it hasn't. Maybe it's worse the further away that you are. Previous overseas trips have taken me to places further west than England, so maybe that extra hour or two is enough to make jet lag really bad. :)Zsenya From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 22:08:25 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:08:25 -0000 Subject: ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? In-Reply-To: <92.122c4990.27ee5425@aol.com> Message-ID: <99j5sp+clfq@eGroups.com> If I were you, I'd buy a new keyboard. You can get one at Wal-Mart for about $20. Less than the shop, I'd imagine. (Unless it's a driver problem... but even then a new board would come with different drivers...) Heather M., not really a computer guru, but close. --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., TTTIGERESS at A... wrote: > In a message dated 3/24/01 3:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, > nera at r... writes: > > << Hi Tigger > > I dont live in Tennessee, but have you tried using the "shift key" to get > out of all caps? > >> > YES I HAVE... IN ORDER TO TYPE IN LOWER CASE I HAVE TO HOLD DOWN BOTH OF MY > SHIFT KEYS.... IT'S BEEN IN AND OUTTA THE SHOP... BUT THEY CAN'T FIND THE > REASON... > > TIGGER From john at walton.to Sat Mar 24 22:17:59 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:17:59 -0500 Subject: New York: new list, April 13th Gathering In-Reply-To: <99gcj3+3b96@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Amy Z said: > Damn, that sounded like fun. I missed my chance when Carole and > Sinead got together in Boston for the New England edition. If we do > another one in the near future, I won't miss it. ::pops back into computerland after spending a couple of days in wow-isn't-it-cool-to-be-home land:: Actually, there is going to be a get-together on Friday 13th April in NY! Ebony is planning to be in town then (is that still right, Eb?) and so we thought we'd meet up with her and have more dimsum ::biiiig grin:: Even if Eb's not going to be in town, I think we should meet up anyway -- planning will take place on the new list (see below) Anyway, since we almost managed to lose Emily's email, I've set up an unofficial sublist, HPFGU-NewYork -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-NewYork -- HPFGU-NewYork at yahoogroups.com Feel free to join if you're interested -- either use the site or send a blank email to HPFGU-NewYork-subscribe at yahoogroups.com --John From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sat Mar 24 23:16:32 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:16:32 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HPfGU New York gathering References: Message-ID: Hey, Jeralyn, we would all like to see it. Why don't you scan it and put it in the graphics group files section? You're going to end up broke, sending it to all 1000+ of us. thanks, yael ----- Original Message ----- From: voicelady Yeah, it really was a good time and so nice to meet face to face! So to all of you out there who've been hesitant about group meetings, go for it! You'll be glad you did. Only one bad thing about yesterday - the weather was horrendous! Suffice it to say - I woke up with an awful cold this morning and have been sniffling all day. But you know what? I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If anyone would like a membership card, send me an email offlist with your address. Jeralyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 00:55:23 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 19:55:23 -0500 Subject: Chat tomorrow... Message-ID: <004801c0b4c6$67b95f60$10ccfea9@computer> First, I am sorry, I have a birthday party to go to, and shan't be in chat tomorrow (the now infamous Katerinaugusta's youngest child, lol. Hopefully, she'll read the 4 books I gave her for Christmas, soon, but not certain if she'll join in our discussions! :D). If someone could be ever so kind as to record the scroll.....?? Second, Neil/Simon, you might want to announce HOW-TO's again. I myself forgot the GRP in place of the G! :) Thanks guys! (And gals) Dee _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sun Mar 25 01:00:15 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:00:15 -0000 Subject: Chat tomorrow... In-Reply-To: <004801c0b4c6$67b95f60$10ccfea9@computer> Message-ID: <99jfuv+ph7l@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > First, I am sorry, I have a birthday party to go to, and shan't be in chat > tomorrow (the now infamous Katerinaugusta's youngest child, lol. Hopefully, > she'll read the 4 books I gave her for Christmas, soon, but not certain if > she'll join in our discussions! :D). Me too, unfortunately. The pub I'm working in is closing down for a few weeks to be refurbished, and so the poor staff (like myself) will be required to hang around after work tomorrow night and finish all the beer. Life is such a trial. If I do make it to the chat it won't be 'till very late and I may not be able to see, let alone type. Dai From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sun Mar 25 02:15:02 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:15:02 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Chat tomorrow... References: <99jfuv+ph7l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3ABD54A6.E96DCF3A@sympatico.ca> When is the chat tomorrow? And is it on here (OT Chatter) or on the HPforGU? Hugs Jamieson Dai Evans wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > > First, I am sorry, I have a birthday party to go to, and shan't be > in chat > > tomorrow (the now infamous Katerinaugusta's youngest child, lol. > Hopefully, > > she'll read the 4 books I gave her for Christmas, soon, but not > certain if > > she'll join in our discussions! :D). > > Me too, unfortunately. The pub I'm working in is closing down for a > few weeks to be refurbished, and so the poor staff (like myself) will > be required to hang around after work tomorrow night and finish all > the beer. Life is such a trial. If I do make it to the chat it won't > be 'till very late and I may not be able to see, let alone type. > > > > Dai > > > Yahoo! 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Ask yourself whether I mean the chat or the drinking. :-D Heather M., currently having a beer and heading over to the Trixie chat (another book series - we have 64 members and we chat EVERY night!) --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Dai Evans" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > > First, I am sorry, I have a birthday party to go to, and shan't be > in chat > > tomorrow (the now infamous Katerinaugusta's youngest child, lol. > Hopefully, > > she'll read the 4 books I gave her for Christmas, soon, but not > certain if > > she'll join in our discussions! :D). > > Me too, unfortunately. The pub I'm working in is closing down for a > few weeks to be refurbished, and so the poor staff (like myself) will > be required to hang around after work tomorrow night and finish all > the beer. Life is such a trial. If I do make it to the chat it won't > be 'till very late and I may not be able to see, let alone type. > > > > Dai From nlpnt at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 03:02:18 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:02:18 -0000 Subject: How's this for a recipe? Message-ID: <99jn3q+ilu7@eGroups.com> 1 cup butter 1 tsp salt 1 cup sugar Lemon juice 4 large eggs 1 cup brown sugar 1 cup dried fruit 1 cup nuts 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda 1 or 2 quarts whiskey Before you start, sample the whiskey for quality. Good, isn't it? Now, go ahead. Select a large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check the whiskey again, as it must be just right. To be sure the whiskey is of the highest quality, pour one level cup into a glass and drink it as fast as you can. Repeat... With an electric mixer, beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp of thugar and beat again. Meanwhile, make sure that the whiskey is of the highest quality. Dry another tup. Open second quart if necessary. Add 2 arge leggs, 2 cups fried druit and beat until high. If druit gets buck in steaters, just pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey again, checking for tonscicticity. Next, sift 3 cups of salt or anything, it really doesn't matter. Sample the whiskey. Sift 1/2 pint of lemon juice. Fold in chopped butter and strained nuts. Add 1 babblespoon of brown thugar, or whatever color you can find, and wix mell. Grease oven and turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Now pour the whole mess into the coven and ake. Check the whiskey, again, and bo to ged." From nlpnt at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 03:07:18 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:07:18 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering - maybe New England In-Reply-To: <99gdq9+ds2t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99jnd6+ohet@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., lrcjestes at e... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > > Damn, that sounded like fun. I missed my chance when Carole and > > Sinead got together in Boston for the New England edition. If we > do > > another one in the near future, I won't miss it. > > > > Amy Z > > Are you up here? Where? and When should we get together again? > > carole > > PS Are there any other New Englanders who want to try to get together? I'm in Burlington, VT and I know Amy Z's in eastern VT. Where are you? From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 03:21:31 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:21:31 -0000 Subject: How's this for a recipe? In-Reply-To: <99jn3q+ilu7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99jo7r+hmf1@eGroups.com> Does it have a label - I mean? what is does it purport to be? Heather --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., nlpnt at y... wrote: > 1 cup butter 1 tsp salt > 1 cup sugar Lemon juice > 4 large eggs 1 cup brown sugar > 1 cup dried fruit 1 cup nuts > 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda > 1 or 2 quarts whiskey > > Before you start, sample the whiskey for quality. Good, isn't it? > Now, go ahead. Select a large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check > the whiskey again, as it must be just right. To be sure the whiskey > is of the highest quality, pour one level cup into a glass and drink > it as fast as you can. Repeat... With an electric mixer, beat one cup > of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp of thugar and beat again. > Meanwhile, make sure that the whiskey is of the highest quality. Dry > another tup. Open second quart if necessary. Add 2 arge leggs, 2 cups > fried druit and beat until high. If druit gets buck in steaters, just > pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey again, checking > for tonscicticity. Next, sift 3 cups of salt or anything, it really > doesn't matter. Sample the whiskey. Sift 1/2 pint of lemon juice. > Fold in chopped butter and strained nuts. Add 1 babblespoon of brown > thugar, or whatever color you can find, and wix mell. Grease oven and > turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Now pour the whole mess into the coven > and ake. Check the whiskey, again, and bo to ged." From yael_pou at hotmail.com Sun Mar 25 07:25:44 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:25:44 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] How's this for a recipe? References: <99jn3q+ilu7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Twied it. Kake didnt come outh too bood. Not Edible. I wodthed why? yael ----- Original Message ----- From: nlpnt at yahoo.com 1 cup butter 1 tsp salt 1 cup sugar Lemon juice 4 large eggs 1 cup brown sugar 1 cup dried fruit 1 cup nuts 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda 1 or 2 quarts whiskey Before you start, sample the whiskey for quality. Good, isn't it? Now, go ahead. Select a large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check the whiskey again, as it must be just right. To be sure the whiskey is of the highest quality, pour one level cup into a glass and drink it as fast as you can. Repeat... With an electric mixer, beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp of thugar and beat again. Meanwhile, make sure that the whiskey is of the highest quality. Dry another tup. Open second quart if necessary. Add 2 arge leggs, 2 cups fried druit and beat until high. If druit gets buck in steaters, just pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey again, checking for tonscicticity. Next, sift 3 cups of salt or anything, it really doesn't matter. Sample the whiskey. Sift 1/2 pint of lemon juice. Fold in chopped butter and strained nuts. Add 1 babblespoon of brown thugar, or whatever color you can find, and wix mell. Grease oven and turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Now pour the whole mess into the coven and ake. Check the whiskey, again, and bo to ged." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From catlady at wicca.net Sun Mar 25 07:40:53 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 23:40:53 -0800 Subject: Chat - Alcohol Question Message-ID: <3ABDA104.E1235D47@wicca.net> Chat info is in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements/message/13 The chat room can be accessed from HP for GrownUps home page or you can use Cheetah Chat and grp*g.2176166:1 The chats have traditionally been scheduled to start at noon Pacific Time which is 3 pm Eastern Time which is 8 pm in Britain, but people started to turn up one hour early and last week some people turned up earlier than that! Cheetah Chat info is in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/message/70 Hey, NEIL! PENNY!, as we are no longer using Yahoo!Clubs chatroom, why don't we delete the Yahoo! Club? Something which IIRC was said in a previous chat, but I haven't been able to find it in the chatscripts: the legal age for drinking alcohol without food in UK is 16 years old(?) but schools can get waivers to allow underage students to drink at school parties. That sounds totally implausible to my USAmerican ears, and I am wondering is it true, or did I dream it? -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From hamster8 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 25 09:23:51 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:23:51 -0000 Subject: Chat - Alcohol Question In-Reply-To: <3ABDA104.E1235D47@wicca.net> Message-ID: <99kdf8+oct6@eGroups.com> Rita said .... Something which IIRC was said in a previous chat, but I haven't been able to find it in the chatscripts: the legal age for drinking alcohol without food in UK is 16 years old(?) but schools can get waivers to allow underage students to drink at school parties. That sounds totally implausible to my USAmerican ears, and I am wondering is it true, or did I dream it? -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( I love that little cat you do, btw. These are the full UK alcohol laws, correct to the Summer 1998 Edition of 'The Ferret' - 5 yrs - you can drink alcohol in private. You can also see U or PG films unaccompanied in a cinema. 14 yrs - you can enter a pub (technically, this means Harry was being very naughty and irresponsible in PoA - but nobody really bothers with this law anymore - as long as the kids aren't ordering alcohol at the bar, what harm can it do) At 14, it is also legal for you to ride a horse on the road without protective headgear 16 yrs - you may have beer or cider with a meal in a restaurant ... I have a feeling this is what whoever said whatever it was meant, you can also buy liquer chocolates, and living in a brothel becomes legal at 16 in the UK too. 18 yrs - you can buy and drink normally. It also becomes legal for you to take part in a performance of hypnotism. 21 yrs - you can apply for a licence to sell alcohol. Schools can get waivers?? I've never heard of such a thing happening, and I doubt very much any school would be irresponsible enough, or stupid enough to voluntarily *create* a whole bunch of drunk underage teens (I apologise to any youngers list-teens, but to someone like myself, there is nothing quite so annoying as seeing crowds of 14 year olds hanging around Brighton town centre drinking cider and pretending to be hard). At my school's leaving party, when some of the younger students in the year group (incl me) were still 17 they sold alcohol freely, but that was kind of a different occasion. I would be very surprised indeed if it was possible for schools to get waivers for that sort of thing. *Al saunters vaguely westwards* From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sun Mar 25 09:37:36 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:37:36 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Chat - Alcohol Question References: <3ABDA104.E1235D47@wicca.net> Message-ID: <00c801c0b50f$3a4c7500$753570c2@c5s910j> Catlady said: > Chat info is in > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements/message/13 > > The chat room can be accessed from HP for GrownUps home page or you can > use Cheetah Chat and grp*g.2176166:1 > > The chats have traditionally been scheduled to start at noon Pacific > Time which is 3 pm Eastern Time which is 8 pm in Britain, but people > started to turn up one hour early and last week some people turned up > earlier than that! > > Cheetah Chat info is in > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/message/70 In the UK, the clocks went forward an hour last night, and I think the same happened in the US. People in other countries might want to take this into account. The 'official' start time for the chats is 8pm UK time, but they do seem to start around 7pm (and the calendar seems to say 7pm now). For those using Cheetachat, it's important to note the chat room name, above, as it's different to the one mentioned previously. > Hey, NEIL! PENNY!, as we are no longer using Yahoo!Clubs chatroom, why > don't we delete the Yahoo! Club? Others have suggested that. I guess we will.... > Something which IIRC was said in a previous chat, but I haven't been > able to find it in the chatscripts: the legal age for drinking alcohol > without food in UK is 16 years old(?) but schools can get waivers to > allow underage students to drink at school parties. That sounds totally > implausible to my USAmerican ears, and I am wondering is it true, or did > I dream it? [puts on work hat] The mimimum purchasing age here is 18, and adults have to be 18 to drink in a pub. Young people of 16+ can drink alcohol with a restaurant meal. Although people assume 18 as the minimum drinking age, it's not against the law for younger children to drink alcohol, and most children would learn about alcohol in the home. Any school that allowed alcohol at a party would probably need to indicate that it was a private event without a 'sales' bar (I don't know about an official waiver though). It's unlikely that a school would sanction an event for children under 16; I think most schools would not want to encourage drinking in children, but it's feasible that a sixth-form party for 17/18 year olds might have alcohol available. The Licensing (Young Persons) Act 2000 closed a loophole in the law regarding the sale of alcohol to the under 18s, creating a new offence of purchasing alcohol on behalf of a minor ("proxy purchase"). Previously, UK law gave immunity to anyone who sold intoxicating liquor to a person under 18, who could not be described as a "servant" of the licensee (theoretically, at a school event, 'selling on'); for example, kids would send adults into off-licences to buy alcohol for them. Neil From find_sam at hotmail.com Sun Mar 25 11:43:29 2001 From: find_sam at hotmail.com (find_sam at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:43:29 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99kll1+5v72@eGroups.com> "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Anybody want to answer this one below? QUESTION: > 17. Would you be willing to become extremely ugly physically if it meant > you would live for a thousand years at any physical age you chose? I'd rather be pretty and dead, than hideous and alive :) This reminds me of a question that my friends and I (in jest) bandied around not long ago: would you rather be hideously ugly or monstrously fat? Nearly everyone preferred obesity, claiming that whilst you could always exercise and eat right to lose weight, plastic surgery costs a lot of money! For the record... > How much are you affected by a person's physical appearance? Good physical appearance is important for first impressions, but doesn't hold any special significance in the long term... plenty of my mates are ugly ;) Good physical appearance doesn't imply fabulous good looks, but more personal attention and hygiene. > Do you find anything disturbing about immortality? Definitely, yes! Whilst I'm frightened by the idea of dying, the idea of NEVER dying sounds even worse... if there was an unlimited time for you do to everything, you'd never get it done. There's just something chilling about the idea of living forever, and about the whole human obsession of trying to draw out our lives. Look where Voldemort's quest for immortality has taken him... sorry to get on topic, btw ;) > What age seems ideal to you? Being young for the time being, I can't really give you an objective answer... I'll get back to you in fifty years ;) --> Sam PS, that was v thought provoking; more q's would certainly be welcome! From msmacgoo at one.net.au Sun Mar 25 12:28:04 2001 From: msmacgoo at one.net.au (Snuffles MacGoo) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:28:04 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 Message-ID: <01C0B57A.E2F330C0.msmacgoo@one.net.au> Find_sam said: This reminds me of a question that my friends and I (in jest) bandied around not long ago: would you rather be hideously ugly or monstrously fat? Nearly everyone preferred obesity, claiming that whilst you could always exercise and eat right to lose weight, plastic surgery costs a lot of money! Horrid choice! Surgery might cost a lot of money but it is a LOT easier than losing weight (specially once you get into the really fat stage of things). Storm (who ought to be in bed, it's the end of day light saving and really nearly midnight) From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 14:37:25 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:37:25 -0000 Subject: Chat- Daylight Saving time In-Reply-To: <00c801c0b50f$3a4c7500$753570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <99kvr5+p5ip@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Catlady said: > > > Chat info is in > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements/message/13 > > > > The chat room can be accessed from HP for GrownUps home page or you can > > use Cheetah Chat and grp*g.2176166:1 > > > > The chats have traditionally been scheduled to start at noon Pacific > > Time which is 3 pm Eastern Time which is 8 pm in Britain, but people > > started to turn up one hour early and last week some people turned up > > earlier than that! > > > > Cheetah Chat info is in > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/message/70 > > In the UK, the clocks went forward an hour last night, and I think the same > happened in the US. People in other countries might want to take this into > account. > Daylight Saving Time begins for most of the United States at 2 a.m. on the first Sunday of April. Time reverts to standard time at 2 a.m. on the last Sunday of October. In the European Union, it starts at 1 am the last Sunday in March, and ends the last Sunday in October. Therefore, it hasn't changed in the US. You panicked me, Neil! I was suddenly looking at my computer clock (which changes automatically) and my clock on teh VCR in here to compare. Nope! Not DST yet! A very interesting site on Daylight saving time. http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html Heather M. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 14:40:09 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:40:09 -0500 Subject: Clocks... References: <3ABDA104.E1235D47@wicca.net> <00c801c0b50f$3a4c7500$753570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <00e401c0b539$7e1f07a0$10ccfea9@computer> Our clocks go April 1st. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Chat - Alcohol Question > Catlady said: > > > Chat info is in > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-Announcements/message/13 > > > > The chat room can be accessed from HP for GrownUps home page or you can > > use Cheetah Chat and grp*g.2176166:1 > > > > The chats have traditionally been scheduled to start at noon Pacific > > Time which is 3 pm Eastern Time which is 8 pm in Britain, but people > > started to turn up one hour early and last week some people turned up > > earlier than that! > > > > Cheetah Chat info is in > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownupsChatScripts/message/70 > > In the UK, the clocks went forward an hour last night, and I think the same > happened in the US. People in other countries might want to take this into > account. > > The 'official' start time for the chats is 8pm UK time, but they do seem to > start around 7pm (and the calendar seems to say 7pm now). For those using > Cheetachat, it's important to note the chat room name, above, as it's > different to the one mentioned previously. > > > Hey, NEIL! PENNY!, as we are no longer using Yahoo!Clubs chatroom, why > > don't we delete the Yahoo! Club? > > Others have suggested that. I guess we will.... > > > Something which IIRC was said in a previous chat, but I haven't been > > able to find it in the chatscripts: the legal age for drinking alcohol > > without food in UK is 16 years old(?) but schools can get waivers to > > allow underage students to drink at school parties. That sounds totally > > implausible to my USAmerican ears, and I am wondering is it true, or did > > I dream it? > > [puts on work hat] > > The mimimum purchasing age here is 18, and adults have to be 18 to drink in > a pub. Young people of 16+ can drink alcohol with a restaurant meal. > Although people assume 18 as the minimum drinking age, it's not against the > law for younger children to drink alcohol, and most children would learn > about alcohol in the home. > > Any school that allowed alcohol at a party would probably need to indicate > that it was a private event without a 'sales' bar (I don't know about an > official waiver though). It's unlikely that a school would sanction an > event for children under 16; I think most schools would not want to > encourage drinking in children, but it's feasible that a sixth-form party > for 17/18 year olds might have alcohol available. > > The Licensing (Young Persons) Act 2000 closed a loophole in the law > regarding the sale of alcohol to the under 18s, creating a new offence of > purchasing alcohol on behalf of a minor ("proxy purchase"). Previously, UK > law gave immunity to anyone who sold intoxicating liquor to a person under > 18, who could not be described as a "servant" of the licensee > (theoretically, at a school event, 'selling on'); for example, kids would > send adults into off-licences to buy alcohol for them. > > Neil > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Mar 25 15:30:15 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:30:15 -0000 Subject: How's this for a recipe? In-Reply-To: <99jn3q+ilu7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99l2u7+jft1@eGroups.com> I had a really recipe like this, for peanut butter cookies (which were fantastic) but included lines like 'sample the whiskey' and 'go to McCoy's for a kebab' also 'eat warm (with whiskey)'. They were also very good with beer, wine.... And tea. Pots of tea. -Ben. Pointlessly. "What matters in the end is How well did you live? How well did you love? How well did you learn to let go?" (And for the other thread, there's no way I'd want to live for a thousand years, and what about being fat _and_ hideously ugly?) --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., nlpnt at y... wrote: > 1 cup butter 1 tsp salt > 1 cup sugar Lemon juice > 4 large eggs 1 cup brown sugar > 1 cup dried fruit 1 cup nuts > 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda > 1 or 2 quarts whiskey > > Before you start, sample the whiskey for quality. Good, isn't it? > Now, go ahead. Select a large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. Check > the whiskey again, as it must be just right. To be sure the whiskey > is of the highest quality, pour one level cup into a glass and drink > it as fast as you can. Repeat... With an electric mixer, beat one cup > of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp of thugar and beat again. > Meanwhile, make sure that the whiskey is of the highest quality. Dry > another tup. Open second quart if necessary. Add 2 arge leggs, 2 cups > fried druit and beat until high. If druit gets buck in steaters, just > pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey again, checking > for tonscicticity. Next, sift 3 cups of salt or anything, it really > doesn't matter. Sample the whiskey. Sift 1/2 pint of lemon juice. > Fold in chopped butter and strained nuts. Add 1 babblespoon of brown > thugar, or whatever color you can find, and wix mell. Grease oven and > turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Now pour the whole mess into the coven > and ake. Check the whiskey, again, and bo to ged." From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 16:01:10 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:01:10 -0000 Subject: How's this for a recipe? In-Reply-To: <99l2u7+jft1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99l4o6+mrlg@eGroups.com> Do you still have it? Yummy! Heather M., hungrily --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > I had a really recipe like this, for peanut butter cookies (which > were fantastic) but included lines like 'sample the whiskey' and 'go > to McCoy's for a kebab' also 'eat warm (with whiskey)'. They were > also very good with beer, wine.... > > And tea. Pots of tea. > > -Ben. Pointlessly. > > "What matters in the end is > How well did you live? > How well did you love? > How well did you learn to let go?" > > (And for the other thread, there's no way I'd want to live for a > thousand years, and what about being fat _and_ hideously ugly?) > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., nlpnt at y... wrote: > > 1 cup butter 1 tsp salt > > 1 cup sugar Lemon juice > > 4 large eggs 1 cup brown sugar > > 1 cup dried fruit 1 cup nuts > > 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda > > 1 or 2 quarts whiskey > > > > Before you start, sample the whiskey for quality. Good, isn't it? > > Now, go ahead. Select a large mixing bowl, measuring cup, etc. > Check > > the whiskey again, as it must be just right. To be sure the whiskey > > is of the highest quality, pour one level cup into a glass and > drink > > it as fast as you can. Repeat... With an electric mixer, beat one > cup > > of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 tsp of thugar and beat > again. > > Meanwhile, make sure that the whiskey is of the highest quality. > Dry > > another tup. Open second quart if necessary. Add 2 arge leggs, 2 > cups > > fried druit and beat until high. If druit gets buck in steaters, > just > > pry it loose with a drewscriver. Sample the whiskey again, checking > > for tonscicticity. Next, sift 3 cups of salt or anything, it really > > doesn't matter. Sample the whiskey. Sift 1/2 pint of lemon juice. > > Fold in chopped butter and strained nuts. Add 1 babblespoon of > brown > > thugar, or whatever color you can find, and wix mell. Grease oven > and > > turn cake pan to 350 gredees. Now pour the whole mess into the > coven > > and ake. Check the whiskey, again, and bo to ged." From klaatu at primenet.com Sun Mar 25 18:09:51 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:09:51 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: <99kll1+5v72@eGroups.com> Message-ID: I guess it would be polite to answer my own question: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. Would you be willing to become extremely ugly physically if it meant you would live for a thousand years at any physical age you chose? **Auxiliary question : How much are you affected by a person's physical appearance? How would it change your life if something happened to make you much less attractive than you are now? Do you find anything disturbing about immortality? What age seems ideal to you? <<<<<<<<<<<<< Being extremely ugly wouldn't disturb me much. It might have if I'd been born extremely ugly and had to grow up that way (those things matter so much to children), but I was just your average homely kid. I've never actually been pretty, so I never had to go through the agony of losing my youthful beauty, LOL. It IS depressing to see the signs of aging creeping up on me (I'm 49)- the loss of health, energy, physical agility, etc. Since I'm a person who enjoys being alone a lot, being extremely ugly would not be much of a hardship. Ugliness doesn't seem to stop most of the people I see from loving, being loved, or having friends. If your loved ones love you because of your looks, you're in for some bitter years ahead. If I were to live a thousand years, I'd probably choose to be somewhere around age 30, where I still had the good health and flexibility of youth, but didn't look like a kid anymore. The attraction to living 1,000 years is LEARNING -- I always joke that I'm either going to be buried with all my books in my coffin with me, or find out who my next reincarnation will be so I can leave all my possessions to that person. You ever hear the motto "You live and learn, then you die and forget it all" -- that's my problem. I love to read, I love to learn, I love to keep my brain active, and I don't want to lose all that when I die. Perhaps there is an existence after death, but my Ego fears there is not. The negative aspects to living 1,000 years are numerous, of course. First, I'd have to earn a living, century after century. I don't enjoy that -- it interferes with my private life, heh. I started counting the days to retirement the first day I started working. Another bad aspect is loss of loved ones -- imagine seeing every single friend or family member age and die, repeatedly. You'd go through 20 lifetimes worth of grief. And of course, your surroundings would change enormously -- think if you had been alive since the year 1000 A.D., then think what it would be like to live until the year 3000 A.D. and imagine what changes there would be. But when all is said and done, the length of your lifetime is still relevant -- doesn't matter if you live 25 years or 925 years, it's what you do with those years. I like the fantasy of living 1000 years, but I KNOW the reality could be very grim. It also could be amazing. And at the end of that thousand years, you'd discover that it still really is a very short time compared to Infinity, or even compared to human history. SML "We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is rounded with a sleep." -- Shakespeare From lrcjestes at earthlink.net Sun Mar 25 19:03:14 2001 From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (lrcjestes at earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:03:14 -0000 Subject: HPfGU New York gathering - maybe New England In-Reply-To: <99jnd6+ohet@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99lfdi+ack5@eGroups.com> > > > > PS Are there any other New Englanders who want to try to get > together? > > I'm in Burlington, VT and I know Amy Z's in eastern VT. Where are > you? I'm in southern Massachusetts, near the Rhode Island Border. I know there are some other Bostonites on the list...we should plan something carole From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 25 19:53:41 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:53:41 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99lic5+j9sb@eGroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 17. Would you be willing to become extremely ugly physically if it meant you would live for a thousand years at any physical age you chose? **Auxiliary question : How much are you affected by a person's physical appearance? How would it change your life if something happened to make you much less attractive than you are now? Do you find anything disturbing about immortality? What age seems ideal to you? <<<<<<<<<<<<< --You responded to your own post so eloquently that I'm not sure I've got much to add! I basically agree with you. I don't think I'd want to live for 1,000 years, in any condition, at least not in the same incarnation. The mystery of life is, for me at least that we, like the world, are constantly changing. I wouldn't want to the same and watch everything else change. I don't think I'd get bored though because like you I love learning. Think of the wonderful things one would have seen living from the year 1000 AD until today. There are many terrible things too, but the wonderful things, the developments in human history that could all be experienced in the space of one lifetime...wow Scott ;' SML wrote: > Being extremely ugly wouldn't disturb me much. It might have if I'd been > born extremely ugly and had to grow up that way (those things matter so much > to children), but I was just your average homely kid. I've never actually > been pretty, so I never had to go through the agony of losing my youthful > beauty, LOL. It IS depressing to see the signs of aging creeping up on me > (I'm 49)- the loss of health, energy, physical agility, etc. Since I'm a > person who enjoys being alone a lot, being extremely ugly would not be much > of a hardship. Ugliness doesn't seem to stop most of the people I see from > loving, being loved, or having friends. If your loved ones love you because > of your looks, you're in for some bitter years ahead. > > If I were to live a thousand years, I'd probably choose to be somewhere > around age 30, where I still had the good health and flexibility of youth, > but didn't look like a kid anymore. The attraction to living 1,000 years is > LEARNING -- I always joke that I'm either going to be buried with all my > books in my coffin with me, or find out who my next reincarnation will be so > I can leave all my possessions to that person. You ever hear the motto "You > live and learn, then you die and forget it all" -- that's my problem. I > love to read, I love to learn, I love to keep my brain active, and I don't > want to lose all that when I die. Perhaps there is an existence after > death, but my Ego fears there is not. > > The negative aspects to living 1,000 years are numerous, of course. First, > I'd have to earn a living, century after century. I don't enjoy that -- it > interferes with my private life, heh. I started counting the days to > retirement the first day I started working. Another bad aspect is loss of > loved ones -- imagine seeing every single friend or family member age and > die, repeatedly. You'd go through 20 lifetimes worth of grief. And of > course, your surroundings would change enormously -- think if you had been > alive since the year 1000 A.D., then think what it would be like to live > until the year 3000 A.D. and imagine what changes there would be. > > But when all is said and done, the length of your lifetime is still > relevant -- doesn't matter if you live 25 years or 925 years, it's what you > do with those years. I like the fantasy of living 1000 years, but I KNOW > the reality could be very grim. It also could be amazing. And at the end > of that thousand years, you'd discover that it still really is a very short > time compared to Infinity, or even compared to human history. > > SML > > "We are such stuff as dreams are made on, > and our little life is rounded with a sleep." > -- Shakespeare From john at walton.to Sun Mar 25 23:06:41 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:06:41 -0500 Subject: HPfGU New England gathering (was: New York gathering) In-Reply-To: <99lfdi+ack5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: lrcjestes at earthlink.net said: >>> >>> PS Are there any other New Englanders who want to try to get >> together? >> >> I'm in Burlington, VT and I know Amy Z's in eastern VT. Where are >> you? > > I'm in southern Massachusetts, near the Rhode Island Border. I know > there are some other Bostonites on the list...we should plan something > > carole Count me in if it happens before the 14th of April and is anywhere near a Slumtrak station -- I'll be at home in NY till then. Also, feel free to use the HPFGU-NewYork list to plan things: I know from experience that using individual email strings sucks. --John From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Mon Mar 26 01:46:54 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 01:46:54 -0000 Subject: the name Hooch In-Reply-To: <3ABD033B.CA390C3B@wicca.net> Message-ID: <99m72e+cj2j@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catlady wrote: > Does anyone have any idea what ethnicity the name "Hooch" is? I thought > it might be Irish, maybe because its sounds a little like "Lynch" (Tim > says his father's mother's father was a Lynch), and maybe because of the > connection with rotgut booze. But then I thought it might be Welsh, the > second syllable of Culhwch -- the name Culhwch means 'pig run' (like dog > run, it's the pen to keep them in) but I can't remember whether the > 'pig' part is Cul or Hwch. I seem to remember a Dutch painter by the name of Hooch or de Hooch. As you alluded "hooch" is the name given to booze. I think the California Gold Rush miners used to make sour dough starter by fermenting flour, yeast and water a by-product of that fermentation was alcohol, which they called "hooch". I guess if you're the drinking type and your drink of choice isn't readily available, anything will do. ;-)Milz From yael_pou at hotmail.com Mon Mar 26 09:15:30 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael oren) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:15:30 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Jewelry from Israel question References: <3AA6DB32.4E419844@texas.net> <3ABCF90F.8AA0DA5C@texas.net> Message-ID: Amanda: "Is there a name for this type of inset? Does she know what the materials are? I don't think the clear part is crystal, but I'm not sure it's a real hard polymer of some kind, either. " Sorry, she couldn't say without examining the ring. :( thanks, yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailUG.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail28.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Mon Mar 26 17:49:22 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:49:22 -0000 Subject: Puzzles & Games folder Message-ID: <99nvf2+lacj@eGroups.com> Hi everyone, I added a new folder to the file section. It contains a word acrostic puzzle I made up. Answers will be posted next week. :-)Milz From moongirlk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 26 18:12:00 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: <99lic5+j9sb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99o0pg+8hp4@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Scott" wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > 17. Would you be willing to become extremely ugly physically if it > meant you would live for a thousand years at any physical age you > chose? > > **Auxiliary question : How much are you affected by a person's > physical appearance? How would it change your life if something > happened to make you much less attractive than you are now? Do you > find anything disturbing about immortality? What age seems ideal to > you? > <<<<<<<<<<<<< Thinky questions - fun! I think for the main question, the reward would have to be something different. The idea of living 1000 years is exhausting to me. I'm not particularly pretty to begin with, so I'm already accustomed to evaluating my worth on other criteria, so if it were a question of being ugly to gain immense wisdom, or a cure for a terrible disease, or insight into solving the world's problems (or, you know, a zillion dollars or something), I'd consider it, but I've no desire to live 1000 years. Affected by physical appearance - I'd like to think I don't make value judgements based on appearance, but presentation does make a difference, most simply a smile can change everything. How would life change if one suddenly got uglier - Well, when you're in the middle (ie not frighteningly ugly, but not particularly pretty either) you're not all that noticeable. Might be a conversation-starter to be shockingly ugly, mightn't it? We could ask Mad-eye Moody. Immortality - very disturbing. I'm trying to think about any immortal types I've encountered in literature, film etc. and I can't think of any that are particularly happy. The idea of immortality just makes me queasy. I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be at it forever ;) Ideal age - hmm.... I can't think along those lines. I don't think the age makes that much difference. I guess that's probably because I'm not old enough yet to encounter the aches and pains and health issues of ageing. Then I might have a stronger opinion on that. kimberly who's a whole range of ages inside anyway. From rosewoof at earthlink.net Mon Mar 26 19:10:31 2001 From: rosewoof at earthlink.net (Rose Woofenden) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:10:31 -0800 Subject: Amanda Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010326191031.00691010@earthlink.net> Amanda, Are you aware that you are sending images to the list? I've gotten quite a few files with names like the one below. Is this something that you are doing on purpose? >--Amanda >Attachment Converted: C:\Eudora Pro Rose\ATTACH\CWINDOWSTEMPnsmail28.gif > -Rose "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ~Aristotle From klaatu at primenet.com Mon Mar 26 20:25:46 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:25:46 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: <99o0pg+8hp4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>>>> Kimberly wrote: I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be at it forever ;) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian heaven? Drift around on clouds? If there really was a heaven, I would think that the souls who lived there would each be in their own *personal* heaven, doing whatever they loved. Perhaps they'd be guardian angels, or just be reunited with their loved ones (but again, what are they gonna do for ETERNITY!). All the stories I've read about people who live extended lifetimes are either supernatural stuff like vampires, or fantasy/SF where the "immortals" are locked in a battle of good and evil for the sake of the human race (like "The Dark Is Rising" series, or "Prospero's Children"). Few of them are about average people just living far longer than normal. I remember one... the wonderful "Tuck Everlasting" where a family becomes immortal by accident, and a modern day girl who meets them has to make a choice whether to join them or not. Great story. Thanks to everyone who has answered so far. For a lot of these questions, my answers tend to vary over the course of time. But I do enjoy testing out my emotions when confronted with truly difficult (hypothetical) choices. SML From editor at texas.net Mon Mar 26 22:24:40 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:24:40 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amanda References: <2.2.32.20010326191031.00691010@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3ABFC1A8.A6523EE4@texas.net> Rose Woofenden wrote: > Amanda, > > Are you aware that you are sending images to the list? I've gotten > quite a few files with names like the one below. Is this something > that you are doing on purpose? Um, no. I've never attached anything to a post to the list. Are the ones like this replies, or originals? On the ones with attachments, does the text of the message I'm responding to come through? Maybe your email reader is making the original message an attachment? --Amanda, confused. 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On the ones with attachments, does the text of the message I'm responding to come through? Maybe your email reader is making the original message an attachment? --Amanda, confused. Anybody else got any theories? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bohners at pobox.com Mon Mar 26 23:23:09 2001 From: bohners at pobox.com (Horst or Rebecca J. Bohner) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:23:09 -0500 Subject: Heaven (FYI only, NOT starting a religious flamewar) References: Message-ID: <00fd01c0b64b$bc9ecca0$b23bacce@rebeccab> > Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian > heaven? Drift around on clouds? Only in the world of Hollywood scriptwriters and cartoonists, all of whom seem to suffer from an amazing lack of imagination. [NOTE: The following is simple factual info on what the Bible says about heaven. It is not intended as an invitation to argue about whether the Bible / Christianity is true or not. Chapter and verse references are available upon request: I won't bore you with them here.] The Bible actually says nothing about ghostly spirits drifting around on clouds playing harps all day. Rather, it says that God's children will be resurrected (that is, given actual physical bodies, only these ones are glorified bodies that will never decay or die and which do not have any of the negative limitations of mortal bodies) and will have various kinds of work to do in God's service when He makes "a new heaven and a new earth". We're told that the resurrected believers will "reign on the earth", so they'll evidently be in positions of authority and responsibility over God's perfected creation. It sounds as though there'll be plenty of meaningful and valuable work for everybody there, work that is perfectly suited to each person and with which they will never be frustrated or bored. I agree that it's hard to comprehend how anybody could live eternally, or even just a very long time, without getting really really sick of it. But if every day of your life in eternity were even more wonderful than the best and happiest and most fulfilling day you've ever had as a mortal, and if you were experiencing joys and pleasures which were infinitely stronger than anything you've ever known here on earth, then you really wouldn't want it to end. It's only because we see so much depressing stuff, and experience so much tedium and frustration, that eternal life seems like an intolerable burden. OK, I'll stop spouting now. :) -- Rebecca J. Bohner rebeccaj at pobox.com http://home.golden.net/~rebeccaj From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 03:00:30 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:00:30 -0000 Subject: 'Tuck Everlasting' and Re: Heaven (FYI only, NOT starting a religious flamewar) In-Reply-To: <00fd01c0b64b$bc9ecca0$b23bacce@rebeccab> Message-ID: <99ovoe+ug3v@eGroups.com> Rebecca wrote: "I agree that it's hard to comprehend how anybody could live eternally, or even just a very long time, without getting really really sick of it." --Right! I have no desire to be with myself that long! I don't think I'm nearly that interesting. Rebecca also wrote: "But if every day of your life in eternity were even more wonderful than the best and happiest and most fulfilling day you've ever had as a mortal, and if you were experiencing joys and pleasures which were infinitely stronger than anything you've ever known here on earth, then you really wouldn't want it to end. It's only because we see so much depressing stuff, and experience so much tedium and frustration, that eternal life seems like an intolerable burden." --I guess I can't see perfection as perfect. Life is only wonderful because it isn't perfect. Because we are constantly learning from our mistakes. That however is just my view, of course. Someone mentioned the book 'Tuck Everlating'. I read this years ago, in the fourth (?) grade. It is a really good book and an interesting one on this subject. BTW, how about posting more of these interesting question SML! Scott From rosewoof at earthlink.net Tue Mar 27 04:31:28 2001 From: rosewoof at earthlink.net (Rose Woofenden) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:31:28 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Amanda Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010327043128.006aac74@earthlink.net> >I think it's the little banner ads, dearie. Turn off the html and it'll go away :) > >Or just ignore them. It could be something like that. I don't have an e-mail program that reads HTML. (I have a really old version of Eudora.) The files that I've been getting are .gif files. Has anyone else gotten any files? I don't mind ignoring them, but I just thought that if you knew what the problem was you might be able to fix it. But if you don't know, don't bother. :-) Later, -Rose "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ~Aristotle From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 27 04:50:15 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:50:15 -0700 Subject: Book of Questions #4 Message-ID: Here's another question from "The Book of Questions" -- Anyone care to answer? _______________________________________________________ 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness but afterward would remember nothing of the experience would you do so? If not, why not? **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: actual experiences, or the memories that remain when the experiences are over? ________________________________________________________ From starling823 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 05:40:46 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:40:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book of Questions #4 References: Message-ID: <015901c0b680$794f8ea0$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> Sister Mary Lunatic wrote: 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness but afterward would remember nothing of the experience would you do so? If not, why not? **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: actual experiences, or the memories that remain when the experiences are over? I don't think I could ever agree to that. Everything that I am is based on my experiences. I can't grow and learn if I don't remember something. And honestly, I've always felt that without sadness, I wouldn't fully appreciate the happiness I receive. Perhaps that's overly romantic of me, but oh well. I'd rather have one pure moment of perfect happiness that I could hold forever in memory, rather than a year that would vanish from my mind. I have no idea how to answer the second question. I guess they're equally important...without experiences, memories wouldn't exist, but without memories, the experience would have no meaning afterwards. One cannot exist without the other. post more of these -- they're great! where did you get this book? Abbie, who used to have philosophical discussions at 4 am with her dorm mates starling823 at yahoo.com 69% obsessed with HP and loving it "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilward at dircon.co.uk Tue Mar 27 05:42:34 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:42:34 +0100 Subject: gif attachments/HTML formats (response to Rose) References: <2.2.32.20010327043128.006aac74@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00cb01c0b680$b9ef22e0$8e3770c2@c5s910j> Rose said: > Has anyone else gotten any files? I don't mind ignoring them, but I just > thought that if you knew what the problem was you might be able to fix it. > But if you don't know, don't bother. :-) For Rose and anyone else experiencing this.... The sender can set the message to plain text or html before they send it, so anyone who has the HTML setting 'on' will send a colour banner ad along with their message - that's the gif (graphical image file?) attachment you are seeing on Amanda's (and Dee's) messages. Most people have have 'plain text' selected. With those, you still get an ad, but it's just plain text at the bottom of each message. There should be one at the bottom of this message. If you are getting a gif attachment with every message, you can stop this by altering your delivery settings. Go the the group's welcome page and click on 'delivery options' at top right. One of the options there is to convert all text e-mail's to HTML; if you have that selected, turn it off. You will still get the attachments on messages from people who are sending HTML e-mails, but the majority of messages received won't have an attachment. Here's a link to our opening page. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups Neil Moderator Team ____________________________________ Flying-Ford-Anglia Mechanimagus Moderator (ignition on) "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From klaatu at primenet.com Tue Mar 27 06:09:05 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:09:05 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: <015901c0b680$794f8ea0$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> Message-ID: starling823 wrote: >>>post more of these -- they're great! where did you get this book?<<<<<< I just checked on Amazon and the Book of Questions (by Gregory Stock, 1987) is still in print: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0894803204/ I'll continue to post questions unless people get sick of them and tell me to quit. SML ================================== Inside every older person is a younger person - wondering what the hell happened. ================================== From catlady at wicca.net Tue Mar 27 06:56:18 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:56:18 -0800 Subject: Two things completely OT and one thing ON Message-ID: <3AC03991.ED29810C@wicca.net> 1. Sister Mary Lunatic signed off with: > ================================== > Inside every older person > is a younger person - > wondering what the hell happened. > ================================== And I have had it brought to my attention that SOMETHING happened and I am now OLD more firmly by HP fandom than it was by anything else , as I encounter wise mature people one-third my age, very excellent writers who weren't born yet in my college graduation year (if I have bothered to graduate), and employed adults young enough that I could be their mother without having been precocious. 2. Tim says that Putin and Rasputin are pronounced differently and might be spelled differently in Cyrillic. I had thought they were pronounced the same and made a joke (well, it was funny at the party) about them being related. Does anyone know? 3. Quidditch Through the Ages without a spoiler warning: NEIL, I was wondering which of the pro teams she listed is closest to Wellingborough -- I thought it might be the Wigtown Wanderers, but please don't comment on what kind of sense of geography thinks that places might be near each other just because they start with the same letter. -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From john at walton.to Tue Mar 27 15:57:52 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:57:52 -0500 Subject: Russian: Putin/Rasputin (was: Two things completely OT and one thing ON) In-Reply-To: <3AC03991.ED29810C@wicca.net> Message-ID: Catlady said: > 2. Tim says that Putin and Rasputin are pronounced differently and might > be spelled differently in Cyrillic. I had thought they were pronounced > the same and made a joke (well, it was funny at the party) about them > being related. Does anyone know? Hi Rita, >From my limited year of Russian, I'm pretty sure that they are spelt differently: POO-tin and ras-PYOO-tin -- it's either the letter shaped like a "y" (oo) or the letter shaped like a "I-O" (yoo). Of course, if you pronounce "Putin" in French, you get the word for "whore". :D Betcha didn't know that. --John, Model of a Modern P-I-T-A... From bbennett at joymail.com Tue Mar 27 16:10:46 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:10:46 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <3AC03991.ED29810C@wicca.net> Message-ID: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> My response veers into OT so I dragged it over here; let me know if I guessed wrong. I also realize some of what I'm asking may have been answered before - if this is redundant - again, let me know. > --- In HPforGrownups at y..., catherine at c... wrote: > No, no, no... RON and Hermione. I have become quite obsessed with this ! I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing near you. You'll >probably be getting an email either onlist or in private mail pretty >soon from SugarQuill Island. (What, this doesn't make sense? It will!)> Heidi wrote: >It's interesting to see you and the other Ron/Hermione Relationship Promoters (aka the R/H Shippers) so sure - because those of us on the Harry/Hermione ship are convinced that when she kissed him at the end of GoF, she's making it very clear to him, and to Ron, that she likes *harry* :)> Ooo, a ship post ? my favorite kind :*) Heidi, your comments made me wonder how people came to sail their respective ships. I personally went into GoF without a relationship of any sort in mind, and was rather surprised when I started picking up signs that Ron liked Hermione and vice versa (I'm not arguing that Hermione's feelings are as obvious as Ron's, but I still think they're there). On the other hand, many members have very eloquently argued the opposite ?that Hermione likes Harry, and that there is evidence from canon to back this up. We don't need to re-discuss the evidence, which has already been very well presented on all sides. What I'm interested in is *when* people came to a particular ship conclusion. As I said above, I didn't see anything I would personally call "evidence" of a potential relationship between Ron and Hermione until I got to GoF. How about everyone else - was it GoF? Did you see something prior to GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a friend? Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it got you thinking? Did you simply see potential in a particular character, and wonder how his or her personality might change if paired with ? Just curious, B From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Tue Mar 27 20:48:46 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:48:46 -0000 Subject: ANYONE IN TENNESSEE? In-Reply-To: <41.9319fd0.27ed963b@aol.com> Message-ID: <99qube+eaba@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., TTTIGERESS at A... wrote: > HI, MY NAME IS TIGGER AND I DON'T POST HERE MUCH BECAUSE MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK > IN ALL CAPS... SORRY FOR THAT.... HOWEVER I DO ENJOY READING ALL THE > WONDERFUL STORIES.... AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE LIVES IN MY NECK OF THE > COUNTRY? > > TIGGER Hey Tigger! Glad to see you over here! I've been strangely silent at CIB for the last few days, but it doesn't seem to have been noticed yet. I've been trying to catch up on digests from this group and the main group, and I'm only behind by about ten right now... There's a file in the database on the main HPfGUs site titled "Regional Meetings". So far, though, only 34 people have entered any info, and I didn't see anyone from Tennessee. Here's the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/database? method=reportRows&tbl=8 There are probably lots of new members who haven't had much chance to go through all the files and database yet, as just keeping up with posts can be a full-time job. Hey, moderators, can I post a reminder about the "Regional Meetings" file on the main list, or would that be something that needs to go to Announcements? All right then, back to reading digests... Kelley From katie at vquill.com Tue Mar 27 21:10:14 2001 From: katie at vquill.com (Katie Kearns) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:10:14 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010327130946.00b4d6f0@mira-sjcd-1.cisco.com> At 09:50 PM 3/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >Here's another question from "The Book of Questions" -- >Anyone care to answer? >_______________________________________________________ >4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness >but afterward would remember nothing of the experience >would you do so? If not, why not? > > **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: >actual experiences, or the memories that remain when >the experiences are over? >________________________________________________________ The memories are more important, I think. Well, mostly. I mean, I want to always be happy, but there really isn't much point if you don't remember, is there? -Katie From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Tue Mar 27 22:20:36 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:20:36 -0000 Subject: Finding the Hogwarts Express Message-ID: <99r3nm+cui1@eGroups.com> Occasionally, I get bored, and start to amuse myself with various things. Sometimes, you have to suffer the consequences of my boredom. Today is one of those days, and the topic of today is locomotives. I need some advice from the mod-squad on whether or not I should cross-post this to the main-list, btw. Having downloaded the big QuickTime-version of the trailer, I decided to have a closer look at the locomotive, to determine at least the type (and what does that say about my level of obsession?). One of the neat features of QuickTime is the ability to go frame-by-frame, both backwards and forwards. Another great thing is of course the great level of detail and clarity in the pictures. Features for recognition include: * The colour-scheme of red with gold trim, with a black nose * The wheel-arrangement of 4-6-0 (sometimes termed "Ten-wheeler") ? the aft-most of the powered wheel-pairs is so close to the cab that there is no room for any more wheels. * The name-plate above the second of the three powered wheel-pairs, carrying the name "Hogwarts Castle" * The cylindrical boiler coupled with the box-like fire-box Armed with this and a number of copies of British magazine "Model Railroad Enthusiast", I went to work. The most important of the above details was the name "Hogwarts Castle". I had in fact assumed that the board on the sides of the locomotive would have said "Hogwarts Express", as does the board on the front of the locomotive, but I was mistaken. In general, on British rails, steam- locomotives with similar names were of the same type. The magazines contained pictures of some models of Castle-class locomotives ? comparing them with the pictures on the trailer simply confirmed that the locomotive in the trailer was of the same type. Indeed, to me the choice of Castle-class express-locomotives is an excellent one, given the opportunity it presents for a very fitting name for the locomotive. The reason for looking for this somewhat peripheral information is of course to determine the possibility seeing a model Hogwarts Express being manufactured and sold. Seeing that manufacturing-tools exist, I am now convinced that we will see this happen. The pictures mentioned above were of the models. The first was a Wrenn-model, manufactured in the late 1960s or early 1970s by G. & R. Wrenn Ltd., which was then owned by Triang (as was Hornby at the time). In 1969, the 15th edition Triang-Hornby catalogue contained model W2221 "Cardiff Castle", painted in BR colours. In 1970 the name had been changed to Triang-Wrenn, and the model W2222 "Devizes Castle" had been added to the range. In December 1997 Hornby released two trainsets, one of which featured a Castle-class locomotive (5042 "Winchester Castle") in BR-colours, and the other featured the near identical County-class from Great Western Railroad. I suspect the coaches that are included in the set are somewhat too modern, though, but Hornby has many older styles of British coaches in stock. The livery for Winchester Castle is Brunswick-green (quite dark ? BR standard green seems to be a bit brighter) with red trimming. An important difference between "Winchester Castle" and "Hogwarts Castle" is the siting of the cylinder-block, which on "Hogwarts Castle" is sited between the two forward axles, while on "Winchester Castle", it is sited above no.2 axle. The existence of production-tools means that making a series of train- sets with appropriate marks and colours for the Hogwarts express should be a relatively trivial affair for Hornby ? mainly an affair of changing liveries, numbers and names, and they seem to do that all the time, particularly with limited editions. If they don't, enthusiasts are left with the option of buying the regular models, and re-detail and re-detail them as appropriate. The main problems then are the siting of the cylinder-block and the colour-schemes. The Brunswick-green liveries on the Hornby-models may have a tendency to show through the much brighter red scheme of "Hogwarts Castle". That colour-scheme is very similar, however, to that of LMS (London Midland System, I think it means), and the LMS Jubilee-class of locomotives is very similar (though not identical) to the Castle-class, and is also available as a model. All models mentioned above are in 00-scale (1:76), the preferred scale in Britain for model railroading. As for the coaches, I have to leave those hanging right now ? the trailer doesn't give us a clear view of them, so it's impossible to tell. I know there are some pictures available of the set for Hogsmeade station, and I'll try to find them and see what they tell me. Best regards Christian Stub? From aboyko at nb.sympatico.ca Wed Mar 28 00:13:20 2001 From: aboyko at nb.sympatico.ca (Angela Boyko) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:13:20 -0400 Subject: Public Service Announcement Message-ID: <3AC12C9F.9DCC3BC1@nb.sympatico.ca> I'd like to warn you that the glass on the HP glitter globes is actually quite thin, and if you knock a globe off your desk, it can shatter and leave you picking up many shards of thin glass. I knocked over my globe (Ron facing the Chessman) on my way to work, and didn't have time to stop at Tim Horton's, it took so long to pick up the glass. Fortunately, I only got one teeny tiny cut, and my floor did look pretty with the glitter on it. So be careful with those globes! Angela -- Behold Angela the Brave! ICQ: 65588507 New Brunswick, Canada, eh? AIM: angelamermaid http://www.geocities.com/ochfd42/index.html "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." Robert A. Heinlein From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 00:17:01 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:17:01 -0000 Subject: My Comprehensive exams Message-ID: <99raht+8s1r@eGroups.com> I've got exams on Wednesday and Thursday. Wish me luck - these are my PhD qualifying exams. Imagine if you took an exam that tested you on everything you've learned in the last five years... Anyway, Heather M, sick with nerves. From aichambaye at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 01:35:57 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:35:57 -0000 Subject: University of Edinburgh Message-ID: <99rf5t+j2tb@eGroups.com> Friend of mine ( a younger friend! ) is thinking of going to U of Edinburgh. Anyone an alum? She wants to get opinions of others. Heather From starling823 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 03:19:40 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:19:40 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My Comprehensive exams References: <99raht+8s1r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <007b01c0b735$edf3c720$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> Good luck, Heather!! ::waves wand to send good luck charms:: be sure to ask the professors if Remembralls are allowed during the examinations :) Abbie, who is still an undergrad and looks at grad school with awe and trepidation starling823 at yahoo.com 69% obsessed with HP and loving it "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: aichambaye at yahoo.com To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 27 March, 2001 7:17 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] My Comprehensive exams I've got exams on Wednesday and Thursday. Wish me luck - these are my PhD qualifying exams. Imagine if you took an exam that tested you on everything you've learned in the last five years... Anyway, Heather M, sick with nerves. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From klaatu at primenet.com Wed Mar 28 04:32:33 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:32:33 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My instinctual reaction to this is... I'd rather have the memories. What's the point of having a happy year if you can't remember it? Even if I have a terrible year, it's good to have as a memory. Yeah, if somebody offered me this, I'd probably say "no thanks" ! For all I know, I may already have had this happy year, but if I don't remember having it, then it's just the same as NOT having it. _______________________________________________________ 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness but afterward would remember nothing of the experience would you do so? If not, why not? **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: actual experiences, or the memories that remain when the experiences are over? ________________________________________________________ From john at walton.to Wed Mar 28 04:56:48 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:56:48 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] University of Edinburgh In-Reply-To: <99rf5t+j2tb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: aichambaye at yahoo.com said: > Friend of mine ( a younger friend! ) is thinking of going to U of > Edinburgh. Anyone an alum? She wants to get opinions of others. Edinburgh? Pshaw! Who'd want to go there when there's a world-class institution just an hour further north -- which, BTW, is prettier, better academically, better socially, more erudite, and soon-to-be-royal! Umm...can you tell I go to St Andrews? ::huge grin:: If she wants to email me about the university-in-Scotland experience, feel free to give her my address. In case you're reading this on webview it's john(at)walton(dot)to -- replacing (at) with @ and (dot) with . -- and yes, "to" is all that comes after the dot. --john (at) walton (dot) to From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 05:14:59 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:14:59 -0000 Subject: My Comprehensive exams In-Reply-To: <99raht+8s1r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99rs0j+k5po@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I've got exams on Wednesday and Thursday. Wish me luck - these are my > PhD qualifying exams. Imagine if you took an exam that tested you on > everything you've learned in the last five years... > Good luck, Heather! Get some sleep (i.e., if you're reading this, go to bed already!), eat a good breakfast, put a strong Scintillation Charm on your quill, and remember that it will all be over on Friday . . . and even if you only remembered 3 years' worth you'll have done just great. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 05:20:54 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:20:54 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99rsbm+5ovf@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > > My instinctual reaction to this is... I'd rather have the memories. What's > the point of having a happy year if you can't remember it? Even if I have a > terrible year, it's good to have as a memory. Yeah, if somebody offered me > this, I'd probably say "no thanks" ! > For all I know, I may already have had this happy year, but if I don't > remember having it, then it's just the same as NOT having it. Is it? What does it mean, not remember? You've still been affected by it . . . like Harry (if I may drift onto our mutual favorite topic) is affected by his parents' love for him even though he can't remember them at all. You will be a different, no doubt happier and better, person for having had that year. I still think I'd say no thanks, but it's making me think. The Buddhist ideal, after all, is to live in the present moment, not dwelling on plans or memories but being fully aware of what is happening now. . . I do believe, with the Buddhists (well, I'm a Buddhist, but a weak, lazy one), that this would be a very joyful life. The thought-experiment sounds like a version of this. Just happiness, no memories. Maybe you could make it last your entire life...that's what the Buddhists say, anyway. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 05:38:05 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:38:05 -0000 Subject: When I joined my SHIP In-Reply-To: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99rtbt+hivk@eGroups.com> B asked: > Did you see something prior to > GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a > friend? Nope. I didn't look for or see anything 'til Ron's narrowed eyes at the Yule Ball. Even when Ron stalked past her on the way in, I wasn't sure if he was mad at her or just didn't recognize her. Only Ron was slower than I was to realize that he has a crush on Hermione. Now, of course, I merrily find evidence going back to CoS. Plus various H-likes-R and H-likes-H (and H-likes-H ) bits everywhere. Tra la la! Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it > got you thinking? Didn't read fanfic 'til I'd read all 4 books, read all 4 books in the space of a few weeks so didn't have much time to speculate or take a breath. Did you simply see potential in a particular > character, and wonder how his or her personality might change if > paired with ? Nah. I'm very unimaginative that way. Only just this week, I started to think, "Maybe I could actually imagine some of the possible plotlines for OoP." I immediately gave it up as too difficult. I will let minds like JKR's and those ever-inventive, if sometimes bizarre, fanfic writers do the work and I will lie back and let all their creations wash over me. Amy Z From aiz24 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 28 05:42:59 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:42:59 -0000 Subject: Finding the Hogwarts Express In-Reply-To: <99r3nm+cui1@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99rtl3+feu9@eGroups.com> Christian wrote: > Having downloaded the big QuickTime-version of the trailer, I decided > to have a closer look at the locomotive, to determine at least the > type (and what does that say about my level of obsession?). One of > the neat features of QuickTime is the ability to go frame-by-frame, > both backwards and forwards. Another great thing is of course the > great level of detail and clarity in the pictures. Never mind the train--where did you get your terrific QuickTime version? Mine does not have anything I would describe as detail and clarity. E.g. I can see the candles floating in the Great Hall, but only because someone said they were there. And I have to squint a lot to see them. Plus, I really doubt everyone blinks in slow motion in the movie, but that's how I see them (it gives the rather disturbing impression that Harry is not so much frowning at Snape as flirting with him. I exaggerate, but only slightly). I have got to re-download this thing. Amy Z From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Wed Mar 28 12:34:54 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:34:54 -0000 Subject: Trailer (was Re: Finding the Hogwarts Express) In-Reply-To: <99rtl3+feu9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99slpe+gt70@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: [snip] > Never mind the train--where did you get your terrific QuickTime > version? Mine does not have anything I would describe as detail > and clarity. [snip] The reason I have so much detail is that I have the 15.8MB version. I do not remember clearly where I got mine, but you can get it at http://www.killermovies.com/trailers/h.shtml - a bit down the page you find three different versions. I have yet to watch the .mov-file as a movie, as it plays very choppily (my computer is really too weak to use Quicktime 4.0), but it is great for looking at individual stills. To see the trailer as a trailer, I use the 22MB AVI-file (Windows Media-version) which BBC Newsround no longer has (I checked) - it plays very smoothly, but it has a much more grainy quality. I wonder if the reason the AVI-file was removed from the BBC-site was that it was the PS-variant rather than the SS-variant. My mov-file is for the Sorceror's Stone. Best regards Christian Stub? From neilward at dircon.co.uk Wed Mar 28 13:54:26 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:54:26 -0000 Subject: Happiness (was Book of Questions #4) In-Reply-To: <99rsbm+5ovf@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99sqei+uq92@eGroups.com> SML wrote, re fleeting experience vs lasting memories: <> Amy Z said: <> According to the story so far Harry does have memories of his parents and, as with many suppressed memories, these surface in flashes, at times of stress or in dreams. His recollection is poor, but he has memories of the events in Godric's Hollow. In answer to the original question (if I've remembered it correctly), I would definitely say no. I prefer to take life as it comes and learn from the good and the bad experiences. Could a person ever be perfectly happy when those around might not be happy? Could you watch a close friend die and remain perfectly happy? Could you be aware of starvation or torture or waste on our planet and remain perfectly happy? If, therefore, you had to live in a vacuum for a year to avoid such potential for unhappiness, would that count as living, or would it be merely an existence? Without unhappiness, does happiness actually exist? Isn't one recognised in terms of the other? To me happiness is a relative state on your own personal scale and in relation to the happiness of other people. Hmmm. I'm not very good with this sort of thing - I always end up asking questions instead of answering them. Neil From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Wed Mar 28 14:38:03 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:38:03 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99st0b+9e0j@eGroups.com> >What I'm interested in is *when* > people came to a particular ship conclusion. As I said above, I > didn't see anything I would personally call "evidence" of > a potential relationship between Ron and Hermione until I got to GoF. > How about everyone else - was it GoF? Did you see something prior to > GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a > friend? Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it > got you thinking? Did you simply see potential in a particular > character, and wonder how his or her personality might change if > paired with ? > > Just curious, > B For me, it was definitely GoF. Prior to that I hadn't even thought about it, apart from the obvious such as Ginny's crush on Harry, Harry's crush on Cho etc. I also have to say that I fought against it in GoF, because, as you've probably gleaned by now, I do think that the evidence strongly indicates R/H and I was always more interested in H/H. I've also always tried to avoid fan-written stories. It's easy to get confused as to what's in the books and what isn't and they just add an extra dimension to the confusion. (But I do think some of Rita's are good - the only ones I've read). Catherine From old_wych at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 14:39:07 2001 From: old_wych at yahoo.com (A B) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Putin In-Reply-To: <985789075.2203.85338.l10@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <20010328143907.26560.qmail@web5203.mail.yahoo.com> > Of course, if you pronounce "Putin" in French, you > get the word for "whore". > :D Betcha didn't know that. > > --John, Model of a Modern P-I-T-A... Except the French tranliterate the name as "Poutine" which would be pronounced "poo-TEEN". In Quebec, poutine is a junk food consisting of French fries, cheese curds and gravy. Very healthy stuff! Anne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text From moongirlk at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 14:48:02 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:48:02 -0000 Subject: SHIP: when? (was evidence in GoF) In-Reply-To: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99stj2+7csa@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > How about everyone else - was it GoF? Did you see something prior to > GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a > friend? Depends on which ship. I've yet to see any real evidence of my favorite one. It's hard work being a H/G shipper, but it's gonna have a good payout, I just know it! But as for R/H, my other ship, I think I was conscious of enjoying their interaction in CoS, but didn't much think about it. In PoA I started seeing it as a real possibility, and happily figured that's where we were going, and in GoF I did a little happy dance and felt vindicated, as I never usually figure stuff out ahead of time. Then I joined HPforGrownups and found out there were those who didn't see any of what I saw. I was surprised, to be honest. Everyone I'd talked to in person who'd read the books had at least thought what I did in reading GoF. Since joining the group I bought the books for my mother. About halfway through PoA she asked me if Hermione and Ron were going to get together. I of course pounced a little and asked her where she got the idea, but she wasn't sure. She just felt like they would. After the ball in GoF she said something to the effect that it was a good thing Hermione liked Ron, or she'd have flattened him by now. But even so, I don't think my mother would consider herself a shipper. She thinks she's just reading what's there. Me too! So that's me and my mother. She never did pick up any Harry/Ginny vibes though. Rats. Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it > got you thinking? Nope. I haven't read HP fanfic. Did you simply see potential in a particular > character, and wonder how his or her personality might change if > paired with ? Well, with H/G, I guess I did. I knew Ginny had a crush, and I really really liked her, plus she's always going to be more or less around, since she's his best friend's sister, so I figured there was a good potential for him to eventually have that 'oh look - you're a girl' moment with her. And Harry could use the love of a good woman someday, so it just seemed to fit. With R/H it was more just that in reading the books that was the impression I got. kimberly From lrcjestes at earthlink.net Wed Mar 28 16:03:37 2001 From: lrcjestes at earthlink.net (lrcjestes at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:03:37 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99t20p+ojv1@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > What I'm interested in is *when* > people came to a particular ship conclusion. As I said above, I > didn't see anything I would personally call "evidence" of > a potential relationship between Ron and Hermione until I got to GoF. > How about everyone else - was it GoF? Did you see something prior to > GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a > friend? Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it > got you thinking? Yep, that was me, but it was before GoF. I was one of those who was a confirmed non-shipper (they're just kids...that's rediculous) while reading the first three book. Then in order to satisfy my HP obsession waiting for GoF I statred reading PoU (this was in April of last year). Well that turned me into a confirmed H/H shipper. But I honestly don't think they will discover that within the context of the canon. But we can always hope, can't we. carole From klaatu at primenet.com Wed Mar 28 16:14:59 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:14:59 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: <99rsbm+5ovf@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>Amy wrote: (well, I'm a Buddhist, but a weak, lazy one) <<<<<<<< That sounds like me -- I describe myself as a "half-assed Taoist" I understand what you mean by living in the moment, but I don't know whether it's achievable or even desirable to forget the past. Did you ever see that British musician whose long-term memory-making ability was destroyed by a fever? He remembered things from before his illness, but was unable to form new memories since then. His wife could walk into his room 25 times in one day, and each time he'd greet her like he hadn't seen her for months -- he simply could not remember what had happened just a few minutes before. It was very sad, and frightening. Krishnamurti claimed in later years that he had forgotten his younger self. I would think that if you were a teacher and an example for youth, that remembering your life experiences would be helpful in dealing with other people who hadn't reached your level of spiritual advancement. To me, forgetting the past means more like "letting go of past anger, resentment, bad feelings, etc" -- forget them if you can, but certainly let go of the effect they may be having on the present or the future. Ugh - I always start to sound like some sanctimonious guru.... SML ================================== Inside every older person is a younger person - wondering what the hell happened. ================================== -----Original Message----- From: Amy Z [mailto:aiz24 at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:21 PM To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #4 --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > > My instinctual reaction to this is... I'd rather have the memories. What's > the point of having a happy year if you can't remember it? Even if I have a > terrible year, it's good to have as a memory. Yeah, if somebody offered me > this, I'd probably say "no thanks" ! > For all I know, I may already have had this happy year, but if I don't > remember having it, then it's just the same as NOT having it. Is it? What does it mean, not remember? You've still been affected by it . . . like Harry (if I may drift onto our mutual favorite topic) is affected by his parents' love for him even though he can't remember them at all. You will be a different, no doubt happier and better, person for having had that year. I still think I'd say no thanks, but it's making me think. The Buddhist ideal, after all, is to live in the present moment, not dwelling on plans or memories but being fully aware of what is happening now. . . I do believe, with the Buddhists (well, I'm a Buddhist, but a weak, lazy one), that this would be a very joyful life. The thought-experiment sounds like a version of this. Just happiness, no memories. Maybe you could make it last your entire life...that's what the Buddhists say, anyway. Amy Z To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From klaatu at primenet.com Wed Mar 28 16:32:30 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:32:30 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Happiness (was Book of Questions #4) In-Reply-To: <99sqei+uq92@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>Neil wrote: Hmmm. I'm not very good with this sort of thing - I always end up asking questions instead of answering them. <<<<<<<<<< That's even better! The more questions it raises, the better the question. I must admit I hadn't even thought about "perfect happiness" and what it implied. Your response gave me a lot more to turn over in my mind. SML ================================== Inside every older person is a younger person - wondering what the hell happened. ================================== From nera at rconnect.com Wed Mar 28 16:15:28 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:15:28 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 References: Message-ID: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kimberly wrote: I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be at it forever ;) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian heaven? Drift around on clouds? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can not think of anything that I love enough to want to do it 24/7. Doreen From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Wed Mar 28 17:45:30 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (absinthe at mad.scientist.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:45:30 -0000 Subject: My Comprehensive exams In-Reply-To: <99raht+8s1r@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99t7vq+a80h@eGroups.com> {{{{{{{Sending good luck vibes}}}}}}}} My undergrad college was one of the last colleges in the US that required comprehensive exams in order to graduate. Cramming 4 years of information about your major was no fun. I feel for ya! :-)Milz {{{{{{{Sending more good luck vibes}}}}}}} --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I've got exams on Wednesday and Thursday. Wish me luck - these are my > PhD qualifying exams. Imagine if you took an exam that tested you on > everything you've learned in the last five years... > > Anyway, > > Heather M, sick with nerves. From editor at texas.net Wed Mar 28 18:21:06 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:21:06 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 References: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <3AC22B92.96732C6C@texas.net> Doreen wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Kimberly wrote: > I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes > in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven > even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and > cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have > > to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be > > at it forever ;) > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian > heaven? Drift around on clouds? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I can not think of anything that I love enough to want to do it 24/7. I thought pretty much the same thing until I read Richard Bach's "The Reluctant Messiah," where the narrator/focus/whatever says he'd be bored with eternal perfection, and Donald Shimoda (R.M.) says to look at the sky. Asks if it's a perfect sky, gets the answer "It's always a perfect sky." Then asks, "But is it always the same?" So that's how I can wrap my mind, even a little bit, around the concept of eternity without getting scared of it. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Wed Mar 28 18:22:12 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:22:12 -0000 Subject: Happiness (was Book of Questions #4) In-Reply-To: <99sqei+uq92@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99ta4k+jd4m@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Neil Ward" wrote: > Without unhappiness, does happiness actually exist? Isn't one > recognised in terms of the other? To me happiness is a relative > state on your own personal scale and in relation to the happiness of > other people. "What is evil anyway? Is there reason to the rhyme? Without evil there would be no good; so it must be good to be evil somehow." Gay Satan's Song - Southpark - Bigger longer and uncut Dai From bohners at pobox.com Wed Mar 28 19:37:24 2001 From: bohners at pobox.com (Horst or Rebecca J. Bohner) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:37:24 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 References: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> <3AC22B92.96732C6C@texas.net> Message-ID: <00f001c0b7be$88f990a0$988f23cf@rebeccab> > Reluctant Messiah," where the narrator/focus/whatever says he'd be bored > with eternal perfection, and Donald Shimoda (R.M.) says to look at the > sky. Asks if it's a perfect sky, gets the answer "It's always a perfect > sky." Then asks, "But is it always the same?" Good point. (Ack! I agree with Richard Bach! *runs screaming for the hills*) Seriously, though, I think our problem with "perfection" is that we really have no experience of it. Everything tangible and visible in our world is either imperfect or limited or some combination of both. The closest our minds can get to the idea of perfection is to think of something that is absolutely symmetrical, mathematically precise, and unchanging -- a clinical and static conception that immediately makes us think, "Well, sure, there's nothing wrong with it, but how BORING." On the moral level, if we think about perfection we imagine some sort of chilly, supercilious prig who goes around judging everybody without mercy, and that repulses us as well. But if something is boring, it is not actually perfect after all. That very quality of dullness renders it imperfect even though by every other measurement it may be "correct". And if a person is cold and supercilious, they are not perfect either, even if their ethical standards are logically flawless. So again, our concept of perfection is completely off the mark. Getting back to the Christian concept of perfection, according to the Bible there is and ever was only one human being on the earth, throughout all of history, who was absolutely perfect in every way. I realize that not everybody agrees about who Jesus was and whether His claims about Himself were true, but I think it's safe to say that whatever else He may have been, He was definitely *not* boring. -- Rebecca J. Bohner rebeccaj at pobox.com http://home.golden.net/~rebeccaj From bbennett at joymail.com Wed Mar 28 23:26:39 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:26:39 -0000 Subject: new HP merchandise Message-ID: <99trvf+eapr@eGroups.com> They've come up with more. Just looking at the Ron mug is making me re-consider my pro R/H stance. And why in the world did they make Hermione's legs so bizarrely short? B http://www.sylvanlaneshoppe.com/harry_potter_2.htm From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Thu Mar 29 00:35:05 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:35:05 -0000 Subject: new HP merchandise In-Reply-To: <99trvf+eapr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99tvvp+pjdt@eGroups.com> Good Heavens! He [Ron] looks like a crossbreed of a Benedictine monk, Draco Malfoy and one of Draco's goons (the one with the bowl- cut)! That look on his face... They have more mugs and bowls with coats of arms on them, too (but at least they don't call them crests). Very poor photos of those, however. Snape looks quite good, I'd say! I can, with the greatest of certainties, guarantee that the locomotive shown on the top left of the tin-posters is *not* a Castle- class locomotive! ;-) --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > They've come up with more. Just looking at the Ron mug is making me > re-consider my pro R/H stance. And why in the world did they make > Hermione's legs so bizarrely short? > > B > > http://www.sylvanlaneshoppe.com/harry_potter_2.htm Best regards Christian Stub? From ebonyink at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 01:06:41 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:06:41 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99u1r1+3h34@eGroups.com> _______________________________________________________ > 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness > but afterward would remember nothing of the experience > would you do so? If not, why not? > > **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: > actual experiences, or the memories that remain when > the experiences are over? > ________________________________________________________ Whoa. What a question. My answer would be *yes*, as long as I was unaware of the fact that I could not remember it. Last semester, in one of my seminars, we talked about memory formation and how our narrative formation is affected by this process. Fascinating stuff... I watched my grandfather struggle with Alzheimer's until his death two years ago, and it's only recently that I've realized the importance of remembering. Both the actual experience and the memory are important, though. I can't think of which I'd value more. My first instinct is to say "actual experience", but I'm a nostalgic person, so... --Ebony (who realizes that this post may make no sense) From ebonyink at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 01:21:46 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:21:46 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99u2na+81g@eGroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Kimberly wrote: > I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes > in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven > even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and > cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have > to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be > at it forever ;) > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SML wrote: > Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian heaven? Drift around on clouds? If there really was a heaven, I would think that the souls who lived there would each be in their own *personal* heaven, doing whatever they loved. Perhaps they'd be guardian angels, or just be reunited with their loved ones (but again, what are they gonna do for ETERNITY!). > Hmmm... I know this started out as the 1000-year question. My answer is "no way". Give me my threescore and ten, and then some besides... but I do not want to live forever on this earth as it is now. One of the best treatises I've EVER read on the Christian view of the afterlife is Joni Eareckson Tada's *Heaven*. I bought it the summer my father died... and it helped me immensely. Highly recommended. --Ebony From ebonyink at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 02:18:02 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:02 -0000 Subject: When I joined my SHIP In-Reply-To: <99rtbt+hivk@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99u60q+btma@eGroups.com> I pair up *everything*. I've done it since I could walk, I think. Real-life people. Storybook characters. Movies. Cartoons. Comic books. I'm not an advocate of hero+heroine formulas... I don't form a consistent pattern at all. It just seems to me that some characters are just *right* for each other. And others aren't. Most of the H/Hers I talk with on a regular basis say they've been that way since PoA, but had no ship preference before then. Here's my shipper story... I've told it before, but I will tell it again. I read 1-3 in the space of a weekend, sometime in late January or early February 2000... and thought the books were just darling. I've since been so corrupted by fanon that I can barely remember my "pure" impressions of the characters. I remember despising Draco... wanting Harry to be happy and safe... wanting Hermione to lighten up before she had an ulcer... wanting Ron to realize his innate value and have peace. Being amused by Hagrid, learning from Dumbledore and the other teachers... being angry at Snape (sorry, his character in PoA and GoF disgusted me) but afraid I was a lot like him. Thinking Sirius sounded... well, a bit too sexy for a character in a book marketed for 8-12 year olds. And when I closed PoA, I had a sudden thought--"wouldn't it be the cutest thing if later in the series Harry and Hermione..." Then I thought, "You're doing it again, Eb! Stop pairing *off* everyone!" Never considered R/H prior to GoF... all the bickering to me seemed indicative of a sibling relationship. Considered H/G in CoS, but again, didn't think much of it... Ginny was all of eleven in that book, and I've told my students of that age what I think of their "liking boys". I found online fandom that spring when I decided to use HP in the classroom... but the part I found was all kids. Jenna's UHPFC. It was nice, but... for the space of some months, I thought I was the only adult who liked these books a bit too much for my own good. I went to www.fanfiction.net, which I was familiar with from other fandoms--and there I read some fanfic. Gypsy. Samantha. Alicia/Sue. Others who I forget. Then I started reading rumors about the next book. Every time I read or heard about the Harry/Cho thing, I got a little annoyed... just a little, though. Incurable matchmaker that I am, the idea of H/C just struck a wrong chord with me. And then I read GoF... and got an even worse shock. I loved the book to bits, everything about it... but I was really disquieted by a couple of issues. I went ISO of HP-addicted adults on the day GoF came out because of two reasons. 1) I couldn't shake the feeling that there was more to Harry than met the eye... by page 734, I was convinced this wasn't some ordinary orphan-kid story. 2) I couldn't shake off the wrongness of the R/H I saw coming. I searched, and searched in vain. Jenna banned all talk about GoF at the UHPFC for one week after the release. None of my search engines came up with a way to talk to grown-ups who liked HP. But I just *had* to talk to someone about it--so I went back to ff.net. Meanwhile, the week after GoF came out, my summer school students were all talking about the book. That's when we had our FITD conversations... see main list archives, as I've talked about that already. I went to ff.net every evening that week. I found some decent teen authors... as an English teacher, I can deal with reading a lot that your average bear can't. Then the Friday evening after GoF came out, I found Chapter 12 of something called "The Paradigm of Uncertainty". I remember very clearly that I'd read several Evil!Harry fanfictions before it... and when I first opened PoU, I was expecting that Harry to be evil too. When he wasn't... and when I saw that the fic was a little bit different than the rest in the pack, I went back to chapter 1. And then I sat for two hours and read. And then I immediately e-mailed Lori. And then I joined the PoU list... and annoyed them with my GoF questions until Sister Mary Lunatic gave me links to harrypotteranonymous and HP4GU. And then on PoU later that month, when I expressed my extreme disappointment that GoF had foisted R/H upon us, Penny went into H/H Missionary Mode. And then I compared that to what my students said. And the rest is history. For the record, I wasn't as militant of an H/H shipper as I am now until December, when I posted my Freud theory to the list. After that night, I knew that there was no turning back. So GoF didn't help my shippiness much... it almost knocked me completely out of it. Strictly speaking, had there been no Internet this year, and had I been something other than a teacher, I'd be a confirmed no-shipper (and like the books just a tinge less, as I feel that a hint of romance is the salt and spice of life). Enough rambling! --Ebony (who regrets that she was not an HP4GU on GoF release weekend, but now feels as if she's been around forever) From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 29 02:45:33 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:45:33 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #17 References: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> <3AC22B92.96732C6C@texas.net> <00f001c0b7be$88f990a0$988f23cf@rebeccab> Message-ID: <3AC2A1CC.E9CF4346@texas.net> Rebecca, you're starting to scare me. This is about the third thing you've written that so closely echoes what I think that I could have written it. Maybe we're related....? Do you like Snape, too? --Amanda "Horst or Rebecca J. Bohner" wrote: > > Reluctant Messiah," where the narrator/focus/whatever says he'd be > bored > > with eternal perfection, and Donald Shimoda (R.M.) says to look at > the > > sky. Asks if it's a perfect sky, gets the answer "It's always a > perfect > > sky." Then asks, "But is it always the same?" > > Good point. (Ack! I agree with Richard Bach! *runs screaming for > the > hills*) > > Seriously, though, I think our problem with "perfection" is that we > really > have no experience of it. Everything tangible and visible in our > world is > either imperfect or limited or some combination of both. > > The closest our minds can get to the idea of perfection is to think of > > something that is absolutely symmetrical, mathematically precise, and > unchanging -- a clinical and static conception that immediately makes > us > think, "Well, sure, there's nothing wrong with it, but how BORING." > On the > moral level, if we think about perfection we imagine some sort of > chilly, > supercilious prig who goes around judging everybody without mercy, and > that > repulses us as well. > > But if something is boring, it is not actually perfect after all. > That very > quality of dullness renders it imperfect even though by every other > measurement it may be "correct". And if a person is cold and > supercilious, > they are not perfect either, even if their ethical standards are > logically > flawless. So again, our concept of perfection is completely off the > mark. > > Getting back to the Christian concept of perfection, according to the > Bible > there is and ever was only one human being on the earth, throughout > all of > history, who was absolutely perfect in every way. I realize that not > everybody agrees about who Jesus was and whether His claims about > Himself > were true, but I think it's safe to say that whatever else He may have > been, > He was definitely *not* boring. > -- > Rebecca J. Bohner > rebeccaj at pobox.com > http://home.golden.net/~rebeccaj > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailA0.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail79.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From editor at texas.net Thu Mar 29 03:03:19 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:03:19 -0600 Subject: [HPforGrownups] PI - Snape task - SHIP Skeeter - Ginny References: <99r2co+iio7@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC2A5F6.51B17A59@texas.net> Amy Z wrote: > Damn, Amanda! I wrote this whole thing about Snape's telling > Voldemort that he was the one who got James to switch Secret-KeepersI > was so proud of myselfI'd never thought of that before . . . and then > I read your post. You are too thorough! Oh, I'm sorry, did I scoop you? Jeez, now I'm related to *two* appealing characters--Binns and Rita Skeeter! 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So I would take a happy year, with no memory of it, because I think there would be a similar lingering emotional "imprint" of the happiness, even if I don't remember why. > **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: > actual experiences, or the memories that remain when > the experiences are over? This is a strange answer. Prior to children, I would have said the memories. But now it's the experiences. Partly because if you focus too much on making memories, you stop experiencing the moment--witness all the parents at kid events who spend so much time taking pictures or videos, they don't have any fun with the kids (but they got so many good *pictures*!). And partly because, sitting here with three children in the house, I have no clear memory of anything but today. Maybe last week. Past that, if something reminds me I'll remember it, but my memories are no longer floating handily, readily accessible whenever I want them. They're fickle, mean little things that I can neither harness nor control nor get to come when called. I live in the moment, for whatever reason--stress, too much to keep track of, psychic survival--so the moment has become the most important. Hoping I made sense, --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Thu Mar 29 04:35:39 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:35:39 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #4 References: <99u1r1+3h34@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC2BB9B.26C3DA73@sympatico.ca> Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote: > _______________________________________________________ > > 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness > > but afterward would remember nothing of the experience > > would you do so? If not, why not? > > > > **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: > > actual experiences, or the memories that remain when > > the experiences are over? > > ________________________________________________________ > Okay...tough one... I strive every day to make it the happiest ever. Or at least live every day to it's fullest. Perfect happiness is something that we can never have. (IMO). I think that if I attained perfect happiness, I would like to remember what happened. So, no, I woulnd't want happiness just to forget it. Aux Question: I think the memories that remain are more important. The experience can shape your life, but the memory stays with you forever. Hugs, Jamieson -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Thu Mar 29 08:18:54 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 02:18:54 -0600 Subject: Blue Peter and JKR transcript? Message-ID: <00f701c0b828$e6597980$3f14a3d1@doreen> Clear DayDoes anyone have the url for the Blue Peter JKR transcript of the interview? I know that we have a file which contains the transcript, but I need the actual url, in order that we may link to it from the Lexicon. Thank you, Doreen From bohners at pobox.com Thu Mar 29 13:33:53 2001 From: bohners at pobox.com (Horst or Rebecca J. Bohner) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:33:53 -0500 Subject: Separated at Birth References: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> <3AC22B92.96732C6C@texas.net> <00f001c0b7be$88f990a0$988f23cf@rebeccab> <3AC2A1CC.E9CF4346@texas.net> Message-ID: <034501c0b855$44a3f2a0$988f23cf@rebeccab> > Rebecca, you're starting to scare me. This is about the third thing > you've written that so closely echoes what I think that I could have > written it. Maybe we're related....? Do you like Snape, too? > > --Amanda *chortle* You should see the brouhaha I'm involved with on SnapeFans just now, all because I was griping about how I wanted to see some more Snapecentric stories that really kept him in character ( "I love you just the way you are..." ). About 90% of my HP posts refer to Snape, if not revolve around him. Yep, I think it's safe to say I like Snape. :) -- Rebecca J. Bohner rebeccaj at pobox.com http://home.golden.net/~rebeccaj From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 29 14:06:42 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:06:42 -0600 Subject: SHIP: How I became H/H .... References: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC34172.54D9D17C@swbell.net> Hi -- I saw inklings of Ron liking Hermione as early as CoS (although I think maybe it was after I read PoA that I thought back to CoS and thought, "Oh yeah ... there were hints in that one too). I saw Ron as being interested in Hermione at some point pretty clearly in PoA. And, of course, JKR all but hits us over the head with it in GoF. Backtracking to pre-GoF though -- like Ebony, I was disquieted by the notion of R/H. I saw the signs of Ron liking her, but I just didn't like them as a couple. I don't understand or appreciate relationships where bickering & spatting are the primary form of communication. So, I found their relationship style to be very off-putting. I also relate very much to Hermione. And, I don't relate well to Ron at all. So, naturally, the idea of my favorite character pairing up romantically with a character I don't understand too well was not exactly pleasant. Then, I found PoU. I'd never even heard of fanfiction before last March or April when I discovered PoU. I was hooked. But, PoU was serialized, and H & H didn't get together until late May or June as I recall (the infamous Chapter 8). There were hints in the earlier chapters of course. And, so I re-read the books with an eye to whether this was a plausible canon pairing, an alternative to the R/H pairing that didn't make any sense to me. And, there it was. :--) The possibilities were there. Like Ebony, I was disturbed by the notion of H/Cho in the pre-GoF days. I had no rational reason to dislike her or the possible pairing. I just did. I remember thinking that I would just have to deal with it in GoF, despite disliking it intensely. Then, I was elated when it turned out to be much ado about nothing. H/G -- I've been against it from the get-go. I don't like canon Ginny. There, I said it. I don't. I recognize she has possibilities, and if JKR develops her into a stronger character, I probably *will* like her (although I might still not support the H/G ship). But, I see her as a very weak person at the moment. She has that one scene of strength in GoF (comforting Ron, refusing to divulge Hermione's date and sticking by her promise to go with Neville). But, overall, I think she's a very minor player with some qualities I don't like much. The H/G pairing has never felt right to me. At all. :::shudders::: I read GoF with H/H rose-colored glasses so GoF was not the book that threw me into the H/H camp. PoU was the introduction, but my own re-read of the first 3 books convinced me that this was a pairing I could support whole-heartedly. I also saw evidence of Hermione liking Harry in those first 3 books -- mainly PoA. Lori herself must have thought R/H was inevitable in canon as PoU includes this thread. At base, just like H/G doesn't feel right to me, neither does R/H. Perhaps that's my identification with Hermione and my preferences between Harry and Ron coming through. Of course, I do have back-up for my gut feelings with textual evidence. Penny From moongirlk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 14:15:15 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:15:15 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #17 In-Reply-To: <00d601c0b7aa$cb95f660$2a14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <99vg1j+h3m0@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Kimberly wrote: > I believe in God, and in an afterlife, but sometimes > in my puny little human mind I find the idea of eternity in Heaven > even to be tiring. I guess if there are lots of volleyball games and > cookouts and the occasional float trip it'll be nice, but they'll have > to supply me with a nice hammock so I can rest up if we're going to be > at it forever ;) > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Good point! What DO people do all the time in the standard Christian > heaven? Drift around on clouds? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I can not think of anything that I love enough to want to do it 24/7. > I guess I'm hoping there's variety. Then again, my attention span might well be improved, what with the whole getting to meet God thing and being made new and all of that. Maybe there IS something we will love to do enough to do it all the time, but we just don't know what it is yet because it's completely new. I know a lot of people don't believe in God, or heaven, or an afterlife at all, but I do, and I honestly believe that God is good, so I can't imagine being given nothing to entertain ourselves, or being left to float around on clouds all the time. There's bound to be something, it's just that my mind can't conceive of it. I guess that's good. I do love a surprise! kimberly wondering again From moongirlk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 14:36:48 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:48 -0000 Subject: Book of Questions #4 In-Reply-To: <99u1r1+3h34@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <99vha0+bnaq@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > _______________________________________________________ > > 4. If you could spend one year in perfect happiness > > but afterward would remember nothing of the experience > > would you do so? If not, why not? > > > > **Auxiliary question : Which is more important: > > actual experiences, or the memories that remain when > > the experiences are over? > > ________________________________________________________ > > > Whoa. What a question. > > My answer would be *yes*, as long as I was unaware of the fact that I > could not remember it. > > Last semester, in one of my seminars, we talked about memory > formation and how our narrative formation is affected by this > process. Fascinating stuff... I watched my grandfather struggle with > Alzheimer's until his death two years ago, and it's only recently > that I've realized the importance of remembering. > > Both the actual experience and the memory are important, though. I > can't think of which I'd value more. My first instinct is to > say "actual experience", but I'm a nostalgic person, so... > > --Ebony (who realizes that this post may make no sense) I thought it made perfect sense. It made me think about it more, too. That's what makes it hard for me to decide. It might be a wonderful experience, and even if I couldn't remember, it'd be there as a part of who I am, right? But at the same time, that's a year that would, in effect, be gone from your life. Would it be like having a period of amnesia? Even if I didn't know I couldn't remember it, wouldn't other people know, and tell me? I'd be a year older, right? Would any of the happy effects of that year still be in my life? If so, how would I understand them being there? What about the people I'd meet during that year? Would I forget them and never see them again? Or would I see them, but not know them? Would they know me? What about the experiences I might have with people I already know? Would they remember, but I would not? Or would they not be included in this year? If they weren't, how would I manage not to miss them, thus marring the perfect happiness? Could I carry a video camera around all the time, and thus have a record, if not a memory, of the year? Ok, well I guess that would be cheating, and I'm dissolving into silliness now. It is all rather more thought-provoking than I'd originally realized, though. Thanks Ebony, you got me considering this one more fully. kimberly From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 17:22:40 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:22:40 -0500 Subject: Glasses in US growing... References: <98bouq+riqe@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <036a01c0b874$dcd46cc0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> There's a nice article on the middle-section of the Beacon Journal (Akron) that talks about the rise in acceptance of kids and glasses. They credit this to Harry Potter, Chuckie (Rugrats), and Arthur (PBS), as well as other prominent glasses'ed folks on TV in kids-television. I'm going to type up the article and post it here, since, unlike the Rep (other local paper), you can't just link to the articles--it's particular! :) I found it nice. Of course, I have glases, and was one of the teased kids in school! (4-eyes....etc) Dee _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From absinthe at mad.scientist.com Thu Mar 29 18:14:52 2001 From: absinthe at mad.scientist.com (Milz) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:14:52 -0000 Subject: Glasses in US growing... In-Reply-To: <036a01c0b874$dcd46cc0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <99vu2s+me9t@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > There's a nice article on the middle-section of the Beacon Journal (Akron) > that talks about the rise in acceptance of kids and glasses. They credit > this to Harry Potter, Chuckie (Rugrats), and Arthur (PBS), as well as other > prominent glasses'ed folks on TV in kids-television. > > I'm going to type up the article and post it here, since, unlike the Rep > (other local paper), you can't just link to the articles--it's particular! > > :) > > I found it nice. Of course, I have glases, and was one of the teased kids in > school! (4-eyes....etc) > > Dee > I wear glasses too. But I didn't get them until I was in high school, and then I only used them to see the blackboard. Sigh....now the glasses are almost a permanent fixture on me. If only laser eye surgery for correcting vision was around when I was younger.... I'm too chicken to get it done now. :-)Milz From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Thu Mar 29 18:29:47 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:29:47 -0000 Subject: SHIP: How I became H/H .... In-Reply-To: <3AC34172.54D9D17C@swbell.net> Message-ID: <99vuur+c952@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote: > Hi -- > I also relate very much to Hermione. And, I don't relate well to Ron at > all. So, naturally, the idea of my favorite character pairing up > romantically with a character I don't understand too well was not > exactly pleasant. > Agree totally to this, just still think its the most likely outcome so far.. > H/G -- I've been against it from the get-go. I don't like canon Ginny. > There, I said it. I don't. I recognize she has possibilities, and if > JKR develops her into a stronger character, I probably *will* like her > (although I might still not support the H/G ship). But, I see her as a > very weak person at the moment. She has that one scene of strength in > GoF (comforting Ron, refusing to divulge Hermione's date and sticking by > her promise to go with Neville). But, overall, I think she's a very > minor player with some qualities I don't like much. The H/G pairing has > never felt right to me. At all. :::shudders::: > Penny I know I'm pushing this "I love Ginny" thing a bit far, but please could you let me know what qualities she has that you don't like. May be something I haven't seen? Catherine From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 29 18:41:42 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:41:42 -0700 Subject: BOQ #89 Message-ID: Is it too soon for another question from The Book of Questions? Well, here's another one anyway: #89 Where would you choose to be if you could place yourself anywhere on a scale from one to ten, where one is hardship, struggle and extraordinary accomplishment, and ten is comfort, peace of mind, and NO accomplishment. Why? Where are you now on the scale? ---------------------------- from "The Book of Questions" by Gregory Stock ---------------------------- From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Thu Mar 29 19:36:41 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:36:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Book burning Message-ID: Apropos of the recent postings on burnings of HP, but prolly more off-topic than on, so I'm posting here. I'd just like to start by saying that, as a scholar, particularly as a classicist who studies a period (Greco-Roman antiquity) from which a huge portion of the written works have been lost to us through the vagaries of time and humans, book burning is repugnant to me. I can thing of few things more deleterious to human progress and civilization than the willful destruction of knowledge and literature in the flame of intolerance. Book burning is really the ultimate dramatization of censorship. When widely/universally practiced, it actually removes the works to which the burners are objecting, so that not only *may* no one read them, but no one *can*. When accompanied by similar restrictions on (verbal) speech, the field of discourse actually would become limited to just that which was acceptable to the determining authority. Such complete societal aphasia (though practically, I suspect, impossible) is a terrible thing to contemplate. But for the same reason, I believe that we must be careful lest we in turn advocate censorship of the censors themselves. Book burning deserves protection too. To return specifically to the case of the burnings of HP, it's important to note that the burners are not in any sense a state-sponsored group; rather, on their own initiative and with their own capital, they've undertaken their public display -- which is itself a form of speech (a speech act[1]). Book burning is the most extreme form of disagreement with (the ideas contained in) a book, but such disagreement is essentially speech, and no less than the authors of the book they're burning, their speech *must* have protection to promote the free exchange of ideas, upon which is predicated a society of equality. Book burning by an sort of state agent/cy is essentially different and not to be tolerated. And again, I very much doubt that the majority of those who hear about this case of book burning are going to be turned against HP; only those who already believe the claims that it is opposed to (their) religious values are likely to think of it as anything but ridiculous.[2] And while I feel sorry that the children of those people are not going to be allowed to read HP, I also suspect that that particular reading restriction is the least of their problems; that they are being raised with many other restrictions and ideas harmful to themselves and others, I wouldn't doubt. So I don't think we need worry about the general reception of these extremists' ideas. For example, I was alerted to this news story on another list before this one, on the classics list at the Univ. of Washington. Now, many of these scholars (professors, graduate students, secondary teachers, and some highly knowledgable laypersons) haven't read the HP books, but not one of them thought the burners' claims anything but downright silly and mistaken. And I strongly suspect that most people will feel the same way. The story was being carried by the (inter)national news as much for the 'oddness' factor as anything. But even if their ideas were to meet with widespread, if not general acceptance, I still would unhappily respect not only their right to express such ideas as they saw fit, but the necessity that they do so, so long as they act as private citizens and not at all with state authorization. When I was younger, I would have undoubtedly thought that reverse censorship would solve the problem, removing all those ideas from the discourse which were incorrect (that is, that I didn't agree with!)[3]. But as I've grown older and hopefully obtained some larger measure of wisdom, I've realized that I would never want such power to rest with anyone, not even myself. Absolute parrhesia is the only possible safeguard against terrible suppression of ideas and beliefs. In some cases, this freedom, which to the greatest extent we do enjoy in the Unites States, results in speech very uncomfortable for, or even directly threatening to, myself.[4] But at this point, the only response I can offer to such speech[5] is my own speech, and that of others. Shout from the mountaintops, debate in the legislatures, argue in the school hallways. And burn books in the square. --jen :) [1] I do know what the 'correct' definition of speech act is (speech that performs an act, Austin, and it's very limited), but I also think the 'other' definition (an act that functions as speech) is useful, particularly in contexts such as this (debating free speech), where acts that serve the same function as words are being discussed. [2] Jerry Falwell and the great Tinky Winky controversy. 'Nough said. [3] The old problem of the political spectrum bending around so that the extreme left and extreme right meet (communism and fascism having the most in common with each other). While my beliefs about the ends are practically unchanged, my beliefs about the means which one is justified using to obtain them have altered considerably since I was, say, 14. [4] Specifically, I'm thinking of anti-gay speech. Such speech is frightening enough on its own (and has direct political consequences, such as lack of passage of gay rights legislation, the continued presence of sodomy laws on the books in way too many states, etc., etc.), but it also is the major causative factor of anti-gay violence. Nevertheless, I can't in good conscience advocate its suppression. (I won't get into how nervous hate-crimes legislation makes me.) [5] And gay bashing (or any other form of violence) IS NOT a speech act. The only proper response is from the courts. * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From voicelady at mymailstation.com Thu Mar 29 19:56:03 2001 From: voicelady at mymailstation.com (voicelady at mymailstation.com) Date: 29 Mar 2001 11:56:03 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] BOQ #89 Message-ID: <20010329195603.10465.cpmta@c016.sfo.cp.net> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From bbennett at joymail.com Thu Mar 29 20:38:14 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:38:14 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types Message-ID: <9a06fm+ul5t@eGroups.com> Penny wrote: > I also relate very much to Hermione. And, I don't relate well to Ron at all. So, naturally, the idea of my favorite character pairing up romantically with a character I don't understand too well was not exactly pleasant.> I also relate better to Hermione than to Ron (I love Ron, but he's less like me). I just took the Myers Brigg Personality Type Indicator for work, and I it made me wonder - what are Ron's, Hermione's, and Harry's personality types? MB breaks personalities into 4 categories: Extrovert or Introvert Sensor or Intuitive Thinker of Feeler Judger or Perceiver. Extrovert/Introvert: I see Ron as an Extrovert and Hermione as an Introvert. Ron isn't shy about saying exactly what's on his mind; Hermione has very definite opinions, but she tends to be more reserved. I also see Harry as an Introvert (probably more so than Hermione, although it's difficult to tell since everything's from his POV). Our instructor said a rule of thumb for determining E or I is "If you don't know what's on an Introvert's mind, then you haven't asked, and if you don't know what's on an Extrovert's mind, then you haven't been listening". Thinking/Feeling: Feelers are very concerned about what's best for the individual, and Thinkers are very concerned about what's fair. I think this one is harder to pin down for Hermione (this seems to be one of the categories where people often "toe the line"), but I think the House Elf Liberation Front is a good clue. Hermione is compassionate, but her initial reaction to the House Elf situation is that it's a wrong that must be righted. I see her as a Thinker. I think Harry probably is as well, but I think Ron may be a Feeler. In a nutshell, the other two categories are: iNtuitive/Sensor - how information is taken in: Sensors like to use available information to formulate ideas and plans; Intuitives prefer flying by the seat of their pants and feeling their way along (Hermione - Sensor, Ron - Intuitive, Harry - Intuitive?). Judger/Perceiver - how information is used: Judgers are very good at taking in information and making an immediate decision. Perceivers like to wait until the last possible moment to gather as much information as possible. After making the decision, Judgers move on; Perceivers may re-think the decision. Perceivers also are big schedule makers; Perceivers are not. (Hermione - Judger, Harry - Perceiver, Ron - Perceiver)? That would make Hermione an ISTJ, Ron as ENFP, and Harry as INTP. What do you think? How off base am I? :*) B p.s. If this is right, that would make Hermione and Ron complete opposites. p.p.s. There's an online personality type test at http://www.keirsey.com/. I whined about having to take the test, but I actually found it very insightful. From klaatu at primenet.com Thu Mar 29 21:30:45 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:30:45 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book burning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jen - good post on legal rights and book burning. I'm reminded of several things while reading your message: Fahrenheit 451, the burning of the Beatles records in the '60s, Hitler's book-burning rallys, the internet/WWW. Fahrenheit 451, where books and reading of any kind were prohibited, so that the state could control what information was going into the minds of its citizens. There were book-hoarders all over (England) hiding books and memorizing books to keep literature alive. I'd do that, for sure! I can't imagine a day going by without reading a book. I always wondered how the Fireman was able to read the books he pilfered during one of his raids -- I guess he must have learned at school before books were banned. It's been a while since I read the book or saw the movie. The Internet: As long as there are computers world-wide, it's pretty certain that no important book will disappear ever again. I have hundreds of megabytes-worth of full-text books on my computer and on CD-ROM (much easier to hide from the Firemen than paperbacks, LOL). Of course, if there's some kind of holocaust, the CD won't be of much use without a working computer {{sigh}}. But if there's a nuclear holocaust, I imagine reading won't have too high a priority on a list of survival skills. Still, the Gutenberg Project, along with hundreds of independent book-posters, are the hope for the future of both classic and little-known literature. Burning the Beatles: Oldtimers may remember when John Lennon made an off-hand remark "We're more popular than Jesus" and it was, of course, immediately misinterpreted by thousands of lame-brains to mean that Lennon thought he was better than Jesus. O the perils of the off-the-cuff remark! Dimwits all over the place organized burning parties where they tossed their Beatles records and other memorabilia into the flames. I remember thinking how stupid they were, because the whole thing was a misunderstanding, and they were eventually going to have to go out and buy new copies of the records for their collections, which was just icing on the cake for the Fab Four's bank accounts. Hitler. Book Burning. We know how well that turned out. 'Nuff said? SML ================================== Inside every older person is a younger person - wondering what the hell happened. ================================== From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Thu Mar 29 21:36:27 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:36:27 -0000 Subject: new HP merchandise In-Reply-To: <99trvf+eapr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a09sr+o1en@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > They've come up with more. Just looking at the Ron mug is making me > re-consider my pro R/H stance. And why in the world did they make > Hermione's legs so bizarrely short? > > B > > http://www.sylvanlaneshoppe.com/harry_potter_2.htm The merchandise we have in the UK is truly horrible. Apart from the boardgames, which I think are quite cool, and logo T-Shirts/baseball caps, I am really disappointed. Whoever modelled the figures, obviously did not use his imagination when creating the images of R/H/H, used for all the globes, figures, bookends etc. etc. Hermione looks nothing like I imagined, Harry looks like a geek and as for Ron... words fail me. In fact, they all look like standardised characters from stupid cartoons. I am not buying any of them (except maybe Hedwig, which I think is cute - I mean, how wrong can you go with a pure white owl?!) Catherine From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Thu Mar 29 21:40:01 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:40:01 -0000 Subject: When I joined my SHIP In-Reply-To: <99u60q+btma@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0a3h+he2b@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: Thinking Sirius sounded... well, a bit too sexy for a character > in a book marketed for 8-12 year olds. Thank goodness I'm not the only one! That's why I suggested Colin Firth should play him in the films on chat last Sunday. I can dream, Catherine From rosewoof at earthlink.net Thu Mar 29 21:50:53 2001 From: rosewoof at earthlink.net (Rose Woofenden) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:50:53 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Book of Questions #4 Message-ID: <2.2.32.20010329215053.00681df4@earthlink.net> Jamieson wrote: >I strive every day to make it the happiest ever. Or at least live every >day to it's fullest. Perfect happiness is something that we can never >have. (IMO). I think that if I attained perfect happiness, I would like >to remember what happened. So, no, I woulnd't want happiness just to >forget it. I think that perfect happiness lies in contentment. If you are content with what you have, then you could be perfectly happy, no matter what your situation is. >Aux Question: I think the memories that remain are more important. The >experience can shape your life, but the memory stays with you forever. When I read this something popped into my head. Maybe during the year of happiness you would create habits, like being content with what you had. Even if you couldn't remember how you got those habits they would still be good habits... Even so, I don't think that I would want a year of 'perfect happiness'. I don't think that it is all that it is made to be. I think that happieness needs to have something to compare to. Wouldn't what we think of happiness start to seem old after a few months? -Rose "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." ~Aristotle From cassandraclaire at mail.com Thu Mar 29 21:48:42 2001 From: cassandraclaire at mail.com (cassandraclaire at mail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:48:42 -0000 Subject: The Long Road to H/H Message-ID: <9a0ajq+bs89@eGroups.com> *grins* Not really a long road. Like Ebony, I'm one of those people who tends to pair up characters mentally. I read through Books 1-3 at breakneck speed, without stopping, over a 3 day period. Then, realizing with a great wail of misery that it would be months before Book 4, started reading them again. And I discovered that I was getting a special kick out of certain Harry/Hermione moments -- when she embraces him in Book 1, all the Time-Turner business in Book 3. It wasn't a solid theory, just an inkling/feeling that they would be a cute couple. (I still love the cover of PoA, with both of them on Buckbeak.) When I read GoF I was mildly dismayed, like Ebony, by the Ron-likes- Hermione business. My first thought was, "Poor old Ron, JKR is setting him up for heartbreak." I just saw no evidence whatsoever that Hermione liked him back. I still saw her main focus to be Harry, her main attention to be on Harry, and loved the bits at the First Task when Hermione runs into the tent and tells Harry he was amazing, he really was (maybe it's partly the emphasis Jim Dale gives it in the audio version, but I remember listening to it with my boyfriend, who turned to me at that point and said, "Oh, she SO wants him.") Of course I also liked the bit at the second task where she's busy cheering for Harry and ignores Krum, and hey, the Kiss at the end of the book. I'm not going to get embroiled in Whether It Means Anything, but *I* got a kick out of it. I had never at this point read any fanfic whatsoever or heard of HP4GU or even of egroups. Didn't know they existed. Started writing Draco Dormiens for fun, and it just never remotely occured to me (I knew I wanted it to be a love triangle) to bring in Ron as a point of the triangle. I don't really like Ron that much in canon, like Penny, and so of course I don't want my favorite character paired up with him, but it went beyond that. I don't care for the spatty, bickering nature of R and H's canon relationship, and I just couldn't for the life of me figure out how to write them into a romantic relationship. There was no way for me to get a handle on it; it just seemed weird and unrealistic. It wasn't until after I finished DD that I heard of PoU and HP4GU so I can pretty confidently say that I'm H/H from canon, purely, and while I enjoy all the well-written H/H fanfic out there, it didn't convert me. If fanfic converted me to anything, it was the possibility of Hermione/Draco. Which I still like way better than R/H. Cassie From ebonyink at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 22:23:49 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:23:49 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a06fm+ul5t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0cll+tu95@eGroups.com> Oh, totally cool, B! I *love* random tests and always have. I was always a big fan of those "Has He Totally Got Eyes For You?" quizzes in Seventeen and YM magazines a few years back. In fact, I was always the one who read them aloud while her friends wrote down answers on a napkin or a corner of looseleaf paper... (because you didn't want to mark the book up, you know)... ;-) On a more serious note, I've taken the Myers-Brigg Sort twice before, both times with the same result: ENTP. It'd be fun to see what other frequent posters' results are. Go take the test yourself and see how you rate. Here's the link: http://www.onlinepsych.com/allhealth/tests/ptt --Ebony (who talks twice as much in real life as her posts are long... New Yorkers and England people, are you *sure* you want to meet me? ;-)) From bbennett at joymail.com Thu Mar 29 22:38:12 2001 From: bbennett at joymail.com (bbennett at joymail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:38:12 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0cll+tu95@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0dgk+tfgi@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > On a more serious note, I've taken the Myers-Brigg Sort twice before, both times with the same result: ENTP. I haven't seen this link - thanks! My official score was an INTP with Extroverted Tendencies - I knew there was a reason I liked you, Ebony ;*) We had to self-assess, and I got everything right except for T/F - I said I was a Feeler, but when I got the results back, I was WAY Thinker. I was kind of put out at first, but then I realized this explains a lot . Interestingly enough, I demanded all my friends take it, and I found out my closest friend is my opposite - ESFJ. I thought that was interesting - and again, it explained a lot! B > Here's the link: > http://www.onlinepsych.com/allhealth/tests/ptt From hamster8 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 22:38:30 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:38:30 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0cll+tu95@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0dh6+fpvv@eGroups.com> I'm an INFP. Apparently that makes me a searcher, and amongst the careers it highlighted was a writer, so I'm happy now! From naama_gat at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 22:42:58 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:42:58 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <99qe26+rmc2@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0dpj+gs4f@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., bbennett at j... wrote: > > > Ooo, a ship post ? my favorite kind :*) Heidi, your comments made > me wonder how people came to sail their respective ships. I > personally went into GoF without a relationship of any sort in mind, > and was rather surprised when I started picking up signs that Ron > liked Hermione and vice versa (I'm not arguing that Hermione's > feelings are as obvious as Ron's, but I still think they're > there). On the other hand, many members have very eloquently argued > the opposite ?that Hermione likes Harry, and that there is > evidence from canon to back this up. > > We don't need to re-discuss the evidence, which has already been > very well presented on all sides. What I'm interested in is *when* > people came to a particular ship conclusion. As I said above, I > didn't see anything I would personally call "evidence" of > a potential relationship between Ron and Hermione until I got to GoF. > How about everyone else - was it GoF? Did you see something prior to > GoF that made you think one person liked another as more than a > friend? Was there a fan-written story which seemed so perfect that it > got you thinking? Did you simply see potential in a particular > character, and wonder how his or her personality might change if > paired with ? > > Just curious, > B Like you I didn't think about romance between any two characters prior to GoF. I don't remember the thing in GoF that gave me my first impression that there is a romantic undercurrent to Ron and Hermione's relationthip. In any case, it was so obvious to me by the end of the book, that it wasn't something I consciously said to myself ("Well, lookee here! Something's happening between them!"). It was just unquestionably there. It was only when I joined the group that I became aware that there was something to think and disagree about. I read the H/H-ers arguments with disbelief. I think I actually suspected they were arguing with tongue in cheek, you know, just trying to stir things up. When I realized they were serious, I felt that I owed these nice people to show them the error of their ways . (But, alas, for they heed not the words of the wise ... so the wise has decided to let them spew forth their vain utterances unchecked.. for, lo and behold, the heavens will rupture and truth will rain upon us (that is, OoP will be published..), so that their own words will return unto them with a vengeance and fill their bellies till they choke! alas.) In short, you might say my consciousness was raised to explicit R/Hsness simply by disagreeing with the arguments against it. Naama From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 23:11:00 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:11:00 -0000 Subject: Basilisks Message-ID: <9a0fe4+87a9@eGroups.com> Hi all! The other day I was working a word puzzle, and one of the words was 'basilisk'. This is from an old book - one I bought in April 1997... so I was curious... anyway, turns out it's not a super-evil giant snake after all, it's a little lizard. Nickname? the Jesus Christ lizard! http://www.park.pvt.k12.md.us/academics/middle/courses/tech6web/6c/sam antha/ http://www.animalsoftherainforest.com/basilisk.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Thu Mar 29 23:15:39 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:15:39 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a0cll+tu95@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <006801c0b8a6$2d3f9f00$c53770c2@c5s910j> Ebony said: > On a more serious note, I've taken the Myers-Brigg Sort twice before, > both times with the same result: ENTP. > > It'd be fun to see what other frequent posters' results are. Go take > the test yourself and see how you rate. > > Here's the link: > http://www.onlinepsych.com/allhealth/tests/ptt > > --Ebony (who talks twice as much in real life as her posts are > long... New Yorkers and England people, are you *sure* you want to > meet me? ;-)) I usually come out as INFJ on these tests (that's the idealist counsellor), but on the one linked above, I came out as INTP, which has more to do with thought and perception. One thing's clear - I'm an introvert. Ebony would probably eat me for breakfast... Neil ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From aichambaye at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 23:27:47 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:27:47 -0000 Subject: Personality Types In-Reply-To: <006801c0b8a6$2d3f9f00$c53770c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <9a0gdj+8rb9@eGroups.com> Now, don't laugh! I'm an INTJ. INTROVERTED, INTUITIVE, with THINKING and JUDGING. I'm always an INTJ. 1% of the population. You wouldn't think I am an introvert, but there you go. Deep down inside - I am scared of people, especially in packs. But here's what's funny - the description is spot on. Basically, I like to subvert the dominant paradigm. In my comprehensives yesterday and today, i took fairly controversial stances - and actually used the phrase "subvert the dominant paradigm" in one answer! Guess what I should be? Among others: scientist, research worker, computer engineer, university teacher. Whoops, stop, that's me! I love the Meyers-Briggs. Cheers, Heather M., soooo tired and exhausted at comps that she giggled at the Meyers Briggs From mlleelizabeth at aol.com Thu Mar 29 23:34:33 2001 From: mlleelizabeth at aol.com (mlleelizabeth at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:34:33 EST Subject: [HPforGrownups] Muggleparents and Diagon Alley Message-ID: <59.8e8a115.27f52089@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/2001 5:08:16 PM Central Standard Time, editor at texas.net writes: > The Ministry of Magic clandestinely underwrites several prominent Muggle > publications: the Star, National Enquirer, etc. They make certain that > such mouthy muggles are given prominent coverage in such publications, > which guarantees that the serious Muggle world ignores them. > > --Amanda (not canon, but it *should* be...) > > > Everyone in the serious Muggle world except Agent K and Fox Mulder... Love & Light, *Elizabeth* ELM: Why have I never seen any HP/X-Files crossovers in fanfic? ~ You can never have too many Weasleys ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moongirlk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 23:34:47 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:34:47 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0dh6+fpvv@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0gqn+3ahc@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., hamster8 at h... wrote: > I'm an INFP. Apparently that makes me a searcher, and amongst the > careers it highlighted was a writer, so I'm happy now! I'm INFP too! I tried it from that first link someone had to the Keirsey test a few months ago when someone posted it somewhere, and just now again with the link Ebony posted. In both cases I got INFP, although the Keirsey one calls us INFPs 'Healers', while this new one calls us 'Searchers'. Interesting. They also both say that INFP is only 1% of the population. I guess that confirms it, I'm weird! kimberly From pennylin at swbell.net Thu Mar 29 23:35:47 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:35:47 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP & Personality Types References: <9a06fm+ul5t@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC3C6D3.50AD5BD@swbell.net> Hi -- You know we did Myers-Briggs with respect to the 4 Hogwarts Houses back last May (it's in the Hogwarts FAQ that I'm working on). But, IIRC, no one took it a step further & tried to discern what the various characters would be under Myers-Briggs. This is very interesting. I just pulled out my own MB results from pre-marital counseling at our church. I am ISFJ, which is almost exactly where B has placed Hermione. So, being that Hermione is my favorite character, I sure won't quarrel with this! I do think it's possible that she's an extrovert, but in general, I think she probably is more introverted than not. As B noted, she could go either way on Feeling or Thinking. She's got a bit of both. The Houses MB results were that Gryffindors as a whole are extroverts, but I definitely think Harry is more of an introvert. I also like what this says for the ship possibilities (unless one subscribes to the notion that opposites attract). :--) My husband is ESTJ -- not too much like Harry or Ron. Maybe Draco would be an ESTJ. Penny From ebonyink at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 23:43:16 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:43:16 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <9a0dpj+gs4f@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0hak+18v3@eGroups.com> Naama wrote: > In short, you might say my consciousness was raised to explicit > R/Hsness simply by disagreeing with the arguments against it. Wow, I could really relate to this statement! I didn't become that stubborn about H/H until I started discussing it on list... and at first, it was just that... mild discussion. Curiosity about what others thought. Posing questions. The more and more I thought about it, read and participated in ship debates, talked to people with opposing points of view, and began writing fan stories of my own... the more I was convinced I was right. Several times this summer and fall, I asked for R/H shipper theories and R/H fanfic. I read them. But with a notable few exceptions (waves at B, grinning), I was no more comfortable with it than I was when the Author Herself wrote R----->He into GoF. And then I started writing shipper theory and fanfic of my own. This level of thinking about potential romantic pairings has definitely has cemented my preferences. For instance, it's only recently that I figured out 1) why I was bewildered by H/G and 2) what didn't convince me that the R/H spats were indicative of true love. I still think the "dedicated" shippers on list, with a few exceptions, are that way because of personality types and life experience. --Ebony From naama_gat at hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 23:58:42 2001 From: naama_gat at hotmail.com (naama_gat at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:58:42 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <9a0hak+18v3@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0i7i+22rr@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > > I still think the "dedicated" shippers on list, with a few > exceptions, are that way because of personality types and life > experience. > I agree. I was fascinated just now reading the "what made me a shipper" posts by H/H-ers - they have the exact opposite impressions that I do. I just can't see Harry and Hermione together - it feels all wrong (I think you used this same phrase to describe how coupling Ron and Hermione is to you - or was it Penny?). OTOH, Ron and Hermione just click really well for me. And - this is the place to say it without having to back it up with evidence - I get the same "click" feeling regarding Harry and Ginny. For other people H/G causes a gag reaction. It's as if we're two groups of people, each of which is colour blind to colours the other group can see. Naama From ebonyink at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 00:08:54 2001 From: ebonyink at hotmail.com (Ebony AKA AngieJ) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:08:54 -0000 Subject: Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0gdj+8rb9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0iqm+7m11@eGroups.com> Kimberly's post made me re-take the test. I know I'm an extrovert, but did not agree with the other parts of that website test (I took it before in high school). The ENTP is "The Tinkerer"... and while a lot of the qualities sounded like me, it wasn't a perfect fit. So I took it again just now... and learned that I've since become an ENFJ. "The Teacher". The description fits me to a T! I am definitely not a details person--and I've always loved using creative means of persuasion. And the top five careers are teaching, acting, musician, artist/entertainer, and counseling... all hats that I've worn! And writer's in that list too... perfect. So is ministry... in college, that's exactly what I did. Neil, I'll try not to chatter to much when we do finally meet. I think that most quiet people are horrified by it... I've two extremely quiet best friends who didn't know how to take me at first, and my quieter students have a hard time of it in my classes, as I require full verbal participation as a portion of their grade (something I'm working on--am I being unfair to the silent types?). But I'll be nice. ;-) --Ebony (who never saw Hermione as all that taciturn, for some strange reason) From cassandraclaire at mail.com Fri Mar 30 00:10:24 2001 From: cassandraclaire at mail.com (cassandraclaire at mail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:10:24 -0000 Subject: SHIP: Evidence in GoF (from the main list) In-Reply-To: <9a0i7i+22rr@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0itg+8kng@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" > wrote: > > > > > I still think the "dedicated" shippers on list, with a few > > exceptions, are that way because of personality types and life > > experience. > > > I agree. I was fascinated just now reading the "what made me a > shipper" posts by H/H-ers - they have the exact opposite impressions > that I do. I just can't see Harry and Hermione together - it feels > all wrong (I think you used this same phrase to describe how coupling > Ron and Hermione is to you - or was it Penny?). OTOH, Ron and > Hermione just click really well for me. And - this is the place to > say it without having to back it up with evidence - I get the same > "click" feeling regarding Harry and Ginny. For other people H/G > causes a gag reaction. It's as if we're two groups of people, each of > which is colour blind to colours the other group can see. > ------------------------------------------- Mmm. I agree. It has a lot to do with feelings and instinct. Even if the series winds up R/H (which I've never said was impossible, only that I don't see it as an inevitable outcome, that there's textual support for H/H too, and that I *prefer* H/H) I don't think one could say I'd be "converted." I'll just file HP alongside Louisa May Alcott in my list of books that I love despite the fact that I hate the pairing therein with a violent passion. H/G is a bit different. It really, really, really doesn't click at all for me right now, but that's because all I can see that it is, is Ginny's crush on a sort of imaginary Harry on one side, and Harry's patient toleration of her on the other. There's no indication anywhere that he even likes her company or would notice or care if she suddenly transferred to another school, never to return. (You can't say that about Harry and Hermione...he *does* love Hermione as a friend, and would certainly miss her if she disappeared and never came back.) To me, it's like pairing up Harry and Colin Creevey. The power imbalance in the relationship is just stunning and to my mind, totally unworkable. From a literary standpoint it's also unworkable -- - as a writer, you don't pair up your hero with a completely undeveloped character. R/H makes a lot more sense on that score; at least there's an obvious bond there between Ron and Hermione, and either of them would miss the other were they to vanish off the face of the planet; also they are equally developed characters. I don't like it, but I can *see* it, I just can't see H/G at all unless JKR punches up her character a great deal. And I'm not saying she won't; if she does, then that's a whole different ballgame. Cassie From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Mar 30 00:26:49 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:26:49 -0000 Subject: Personality Types SHIP In-Reply-To: <9a0iqm+7m11@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0js9+kuh4@eGroups.com> I took it and I am INTP. "The Conceiver" 1% of the population...but don't be scared, Eb, I am used to being around the more talkative types (nearly everybody). It matches with some other test I took, where of the Trio, the person I identified most with was Harry. I see writer in my list of careers, and researcher (love looking up those HP text references). Also management, banking and finance, and medicine, all of which I have been involved with, and engineering -- I married one. I refuse to go out on a limb pairing up the characters because I was absolutely =sure= that Luke and Leia were meant for each other LOL. So I will only note that I never felt, in canon, that Harry would be drawn to Hermione romantically. I think he appreciates her and likes her, but I don't see her ringing his chimes. In fic it's another story. Harry and Draco are both far more romantic characters than Ron is; it's *much* easier to frame a romance about them. Pippin, who owes Ebony an email...thanks for the card! From klaatu at primenet.com Fri Mar 30 00:56:18 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:56:18 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0gdj+8rb9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Mine came out ISTP (Introverted of course; factual, sensible, logical, reflective). This is similar to one I took at work. We answered the questions for ourselves, and then each of our co-workers answered the questions as they saw us. I usually come out in the "Mr. Spock" quadrant. No surprise. SML From joy0823 at earthlink.net Fri Mar 30 00:58:22 2001 From: joy0823 at earthlink.net (- Joy -) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:58:22 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a0gqn+3ahc@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <013301c0b8b4$85622640$c7a10e41@mtgmry1.md.home.com> I was an ISTP (INTROVERSION, SENSATION, with THINKING and PERCEIVING). It's amazing how accurate the results are. They described exactly how I see myself and my personality. One of the listed careers was lawyer/judge, which is my desired occupation. Incredible how close an evaluation can be done from just a few questions. Thanks for the link! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~Joy~ http://www.geocities.com/joy0823 Last Movie Seen: "The Mexican" - 4 out of 5 stars Current Book: "From the Corner of his Eye" by Dean Koontz ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From klaatu at primenet.com Fri Mar 30 01:06:04 2001 From: klaatu at primenet.com (Sister Mary Lunatic) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:06:04 -0700 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a0iqm+7m11@eGroups.com> Message-ID: >>>>>>>Ebony wrote: my quieter students have a hard time of it in my classes, as I require full verbal participation as a portion of their grade (something I'm working on--am I being unfair to the silent types?). <<<<<<<<<< Urf! Flashback to my agonizing childhood. Whenever a teacher said those dreaded words "verbal participation" my soul shriveled. I still remember the comment from my 3rd grade teacher on my report card: "Judy is an excellent student, but she needs to participate more." Well, they never convinced me. They didn't convince me to want to at work either! I used to fantasize forever about being invisible, or being the only person left on the planet, but I was stuck as my non-magical self. An Invisibility Cloak would still be a godsend even at my creaky advanced age! Have pity on the congenitally Shy person! We suffer! SML (able to laugh about it now, but not then) From cassandraclaire at mail.com Fri Mar 30 01:07:09 2001 From: cassandraclaire at mail.com (cassandraclaire at mail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:07:09 -0000 Subject: Personality Types SHIP In-Reply-To: <9a0js9+kuh4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a0m7t+m59t@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., foxmoth at q... wrote: I refuse to go out on a limb pairing up the characters because I was absolutely =sure= that Luke and Leia were meant for each other LOL. So I will only note that I never felt, in canon, that Harry would be drawn to Hermione romantically. I think he appreciates her and likes her, but I don't see her ringing his chimes. In fic it's another story. Harry and Draco are both far more romantic characters than Ron is; it's *much* easier to frame a romance about them. > Oooh. *agrees with Pippin* Maybe that's part of it. I had a hard time trying to think of how to make Ron a part of the love triangle when I was writing DD partly because I find him so terribly unromantic, both in the books and fanfic. Personally I even have a hard time with Hermione, I don't find her all that intrinsically romantic either, although more can be done with her. Harry and Draco on the other hand are both intrinsically romantic characters (and no, I don't mean gentlemanly, I mean romantic in the sense of the emotional appeal of what is heroic, adventurous, remote, dark and/or mysterious. Dictionary definition number 3.) And Sirius is one of the most intrinsically romantic characters of all. And Ebony, thanks for the card...Slytherin, eh? Now I know what you think of me... Cassie From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 02:07:05 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:07:05 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a0dgk+tfgi@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC3EA48.1EF674C9@texas.net> Well, this is depressing. I got through the test, and I can tell from the window button that I came up ESFJ (which sounds nothing like what I was at 23, although I don't remember specifically what it had been). But there's nothing on the screen! More correctly, there's an ad at the top, a big space with no text, just the background, and "information station" instructions that maddeningly say to click on highlighted words. No scroll bar to the right so I can scroll down. I can't read about it. Any tech-types out there got any advice? I'm so bummed. --Amanda bbennett at joymail.com wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > > > On a more serious note, I've taken the Myers-Brigg Sort twice > before, both times with the same result: ENTP. > > I haven't seen this link - thanks! My official score was an INTP with > Extroverted Tendencies - I knew there was a reason I liked you, > Ebony ;*) We had to self-assess, and I got everything right except > for T/F - I said I was a Feeler, but when I got the results back, I > was WAY Thinker. I was kind of put out at first, but then I realized > this explains a lot . Interestingly enough, I demanded all my > friends take it, and I found out my closest friend is my opposite - > ESFJ. I thought that was interesting - and again, it explained a lot! > > B > > > Here's the link: > > http://www.onlinepsych.com/allhealth/tests/ptt > > > > Yahoo! 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I *love* random tests and always have.? I was > always a big fan of those "Has He Totally Got Eyes For You?" quizzes > in Seventeen and YM magazines a few years back.? In fact, I was > always the one who read them aloud while her friends wrote down > answers on a napkin or a corner of looseleaf paper... (because you > didn't want to mark the book up, you know)...? ;-) Me too, me too! *g* I *adore* personality tests and so on... one of the best things about the web -- all the tests you can take, plus you don't have to score them yourself... :) I despised Seventeen and YM and so on, though... but I still sat with friends and took the quizzes. > It'd be fun to see what other frequent posters' results are.? Go take > the test yourself and see how you rate. I wasn't going to retake it, but decided to anyway -- I scored tonight (as most frequently) as an INFP (*waves to Al and Kimberly*). Of course, my problem is that I seem incapable of taking *any* sort of psychological test without trying to figure out how my answer to a question will influence the outcome of the test... so I've also scored as an INFJ or INTP over the years, neither of which are as accurate as INFP, really. I'm pretty much your classic INFP -- I believed whole-heartedly in fairies (of the magical sort, naturally *g*) as a child. Think Anne of Green Gables (before she gets married and has a brood of children... that always bothered me; I couldn't imagine being happy like that) and that's pretty much me, except for the hating her red hair bit and liking the name Cordelia. I *adore* red hair and frequently dye my own boring dark blonde hair red... and I can't stand the name Cordelia. Even before Buffy, I intensely disliked the name Cordelia... *g* --jen, who's adored Megan Follows (Anne in the Disney (?) version) for years now :) * * * * * * Jen's HP fics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/hp.html Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 02:32:27 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:32:27 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a0dgk+tfgi@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC3F03B.22DDCF56@texas.net> Okay, I'm cursed. After the blank page on the personality type result, I went back and did the love test for the fun of it, and when I pushed "Calculate Results" I got an Internal Server Error. Unable to complete your request. I'm getting a very bad feeling about this.....I better not take the depression test, the computer might explode... --Amanda From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 03:32:47 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:32:47 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a0dgk+tfgi@eGroups.com> <3AC3EA48.1EF674C9@texas.net> Message-ID: <3AC3FE5E.CD7DE3DE@texas.net> Everyone *else's* window seems to work. Pooey. My husband's an ISTJ. Are we compatible? --Amanda Amanda Lewanski wrote: > Well, this is depressing. I got through the test, and I can tell from > the window button that I came up ESFJ (which sounds nothing like what > I was at 23, although I don't remember specifically what it had been). > But there's nothing on the screen! > > More correctly, there's an ad at the top, a big space with no text, > just the background, and "information station" instructions that > maddeningly say to click on highlighted words. No scroll bar to the > right so I can scroll down. I can't read about it. > > Any tech-types out there got any advice? I'm so bummed. From john at walton.to Fri Mar 30 03:37:33 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:37:33 -0500 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: <3AC3FE5E.CD7DE3DE@texas.net> Message-ID: Hi yall, Yes, I've been quiet recently. Why? Well, I've been looking around for a new computer. S/he's on his/her way (I'll be waiting as the Airborne Express depot opens tomorrow morning) from Outpost.com (highly recommended if you know what you want...and NO LOCAL SALES TAX!), and all I need to do now is find a name. That's where you all come in! What is s/he? An Apple Power Mac G4 Cube, with DVD (I've got an external CD-RW on the way too). Pictures can be found at www.apple.com/powermaccube. So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a computer, now's the time to yell :D --John From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 03:46:13 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:46:13 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help John name his new computer! References: Message-ID: <01ef01c0b8cb$f790aea0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> It's a "Fruit" eh? Wonder if that means it's a blonde computer? Chuckles. Seriously, as a PC User, I have heard that it a good computer you're getting. Good luck with it. Now as for the name. First, the question is, is your computer male or female? :D Mom had called her old Volare Henry, because she said it deserved a man's name. When you tell us the sex (aka color of the case might help decide this--did you get a wild-color?), we can help with names! Or you could use Ms. Hermione's name, since she always seems to have a mind of a computer! Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walton" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help John name his new computer! > Hi yall, > > Yes, I've been quiet recently. Why? Well, I've been looking around for a new > computer. S/he's on his/her way (I'll be waiting as the Airborne Express > depot opens tomorrow morning) from Outpost.com (highly recommended if you > know what you want...and NO LOCAL SALES TAX!), and all I need to do now is > find a name. That's where you all come in! > > What is s/he? An Apple Power Mac G4 Cube, with DVD (I've got an external > CD-RW on the way too). Pictures can be found at www.apple.com/powermaccube. > > So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a computer, now's > the time to yell :D > > --John > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 03:46:38 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:46:38 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Help John name his new computer! References: Message-ID: <3AC4019E.D3EB71F2@texas.net> John Walton wrote: > Pictures can be found at www.apple.com/powermaccube. > > So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a computer, > now's the time to yell :D Seems like it named itself, didn't it? Power MacCube? Related to Paddy O'Furniture, no doubt. --Amanda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxmoth at qnet.com Fri Mar 30 03:58:05 2001 From: foxmoth at qnet.com (foxmoth at qnet.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:58:05 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: <3AC4019E.D3EB71F2@texas.net> Message-ID: <9a108d+dtit@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: Related to Paddy O'Furniture, no doubt. > > --Amanda Personally, I always liked Amanda Dealwith (Amanda rolls her eyes upward and sighs: I get that all the time.) Pippin From pbnesbit at msn.com Fri Mar 30 04:40:34 2001 From: pbnesbit at msn.com (pbnesbit at msn.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:40:34 -0000 Subject: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper Message-ID: <9a12o2+9563@eGroups.com> Well, I can say now that he is *truly* obsessed. He finished GoF tonight & asked me 'where's the next one?' I told him that it wouldn't be out for another year. His face fell and he said 'Oh, no! What am I going to read until then?' He relates real-life situations to the books, and we've created a list of people we really want to hex! He wants to beta-read my fics, even! We were talking about the books & I asked him if he noticed any romantic undercurrents. He immediately said that Ron liked Hermione. I asked him about my own particular ship, which is H/H & has been ever since the first book & he said that Hermione seems to like Harry a lot. So, we may have another H/H shipper on our hands, Eb! Peace & Plenty, Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 06:04:22 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:04:22 -0000 Subject: Jen's scores and self-reflection (was re: personality types) In-Reply-To: <9a0gdj+8rb9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a17l6+671j@eGroups.com> Let's see. This test scored me as an INFP (Searcher), while I've also been classified as an INTJ... the only thing that seems to be consistant in my tests is that I'm introverted... boy, is that ever the case. I seem to break the mold on other aspects of the tests... I tend to daydream quite a bit, but it's always a practical daydream. I plan things out step by step, but always hope that something unexpected falls in my path. I pride myself on being logical and reasonable, but then I fall off the handle emotionally regularly. I'm just a jumble of things, really... a SHY jumble. ;) It's so bad that my husband has finally given up trying to make me call people. I'd make a bet that I have called to have dinner delivered maybe 6 times in the (almost) 4 years we've been married... and 2 of those 6 times were because he was at work and couldn't call for me. Sometimes, if he is at work, I'll STILL make him call for me. And can you believe that I chose teaching as a profession? If I had a "calling" other than teaching, believe me, I'd probably take it... I just can't find anything else that I'm good at. I'm a good teacher. Okay, that was probably more than you wanted to know. I've talked too much, and I feel that even though this may be the chatter group, I've gone way past "chat" and into therapy. ;) Jen (who REALLY needs to check out the list of therapists her insurance covers...) From yael_pou at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 07:01:59 2001 From: yael_pou at hotmail.com (yael-pou) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:01:59 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper References: <9a12o2+9563@eGroups.com> Message-ID: Parker: "Well, I can say now that he is *truly* obsessed. He finished GoF tonight & asked me 'where's the next one?' I told him that it wouldn't be out for another year. His face fell and he said 'Oh, no! What am I going to read until then?' He relates real-life situations to the books, and we've created a list of people we really want to hex! He wants to beta-read my fics, even! " Congratulations on the successful husband transformation! Parker: "We were talking about the books & I asked him if he noticed any romantic undercurrents. He immediately said that Ron liked Hermione. I asked him about my own particular ship, which is H/H & has been ever since the first book & he said that Hermione seems to like Harry a lot. So, we may have another H/H shipper on our hands, Eb! " Hey! hey! he said R/H first! No converting him in the fleet! Tell him he'll find welcoming hugs over the R/H ship . So, are you going to turn him into a Snape-lover as well? *shakes her head in dismay* yael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All right, depending on the comp's destination. - If it's mainly for writing and "quiet" operations, you may want to call it 'Hermione' or 'Flourish' or name it after one of the Ravenclaws. - If it's for more active operations, you may chose 'Harry', 'Potter' (how trite) or after one of the Weasleys, preferably Charlie. - If you want it restless and unpredictable, call it Pigwidgeon. - If you want it to keep losing your documents, call it Neville. - Whatever you do, don't call it 'Voldemort', 'Snape', 'Malfoy', any one of the Death Eaters or their children, 'Aragog', 'Basilisk' or 'Fudge' (don't ask why Fudge is here). :) yael John: "What is s/he? An Apple Power Mac G4 Cube, with DVD (I've got an external CD-RW on the way too). Pictures can be found at www.apple.com/powermaccube. So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a computer, now's the time to yell :D" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 07:43:03 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:43:03 -0000 Subject: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper In-Reply-To: <9a12o2+9563@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a1de7+l4gp@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., pbnesbit at m... wrote: > Well, I can say now that he is *truly* obsessed. He finished GoF > tonight & asked me 'where's the next one?' I told him that it > wouldn't be out for another year. His face fell and he said 'Oh, no! > What am I going to read until then?' He relates real-life situations > to the books, and we've created a list of people we really want to > hex! He wants to beta-read my fics, even! > > We were talking about the books & I asked him if he noticed any > romantic undercurrents. He immediately said that Ron liked > Hermione. I asked him about my own particular ship, which is H/H & > has been ever since the first book & he said that Hermione seems to > like Harry a lot. So, we may have another H/H shipper on our hands, > Eb! > > Peace & Plenty, > > Parker > I have given up on my Husband. He hates fantasy, hates sci fi, hates Buffy. Will not read HP. Again, when he has time to read, which isn't often, he prefers John le Carre and others of that ilk. I managed to get him to read Captain Corelli, but that was after months of persuasion and he didn't cry and become emotionally involved as I did. Why did I marry him ? Catherine > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > '...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper > death...' Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone > > 'Sarcasm--just one more service I offer' T-shirt message > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 07:48:07 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:48:07 -0000 Subject: When I joined my SHIP In-Reply-To: <9a0a3h+he2b@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a1dnn+v2os@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., catherine at c... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony AKA AngieJ" wrote: > Thinking Sirius sounded... well, a bit too sexy for a character > > in a book marketed for 8-12 year olds. > > > Thank goodness I'm not the only one! That's why I suggested Colin > Firth should play him in the films on chat last Sunday. > > I can dream, > Catherine Sad. Replying to my own message. But.. I've just had another thought. JKR cites Jane Austen as one of her favourite authors. I wonder if she saw the Colin Firth Darcy? (How could she have missed it, she's from the UK). I wonder if she saw CF emerge from the lake and thought: Ooh, yes, he'd be perfect for my Sirius! Catherine (who isn't averse to getting carried away by flights of fancy!) From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 09:42:19 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:42:19 -0000 Subject: Personality Types Message-ID: <9a1kdr+46hn@eGroups.com> Well, I am surprised I ended up INTP as well. I have never thought myself as being introverted, and as I am training to be a lawyer and have to deal with facts all the time rather than relying on ideas and intuition, I am wondering whether I have made the right career choice! Funny, I always intended to be an academic... (Only 1% of the population - wow!) Catherine From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 09:52:22 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:52:22 -0000 Subject: Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a1kdr+46hn@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a1l0m+b1uh@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., catherine at c... wrote: > Well, I am surprised I ended up INTP as well. I have never thought > myself as being introverted, and as I am training to be a lawyer and > have to deal with facts all the time rather than relying on ideas and > intuition, I am wondering whether I have made the right career > choice! Funny, I always intended to be an academic... > (Only 1% of the population - wow!) > Catherine I am now eating my words. I went back to have a look, and realised I'd missed the Career listing at the bottom of the page. Number one on the list was: LAWYER! I feel better now! Catherine From hamster8 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 09:54:48 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:54:48 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a1l58+9l5a@eGroups.com> If it's any help John, my gorgeous little Dell Inspiron 3800 is called Sophie, she's just over five months old and some of her keys have already gone shiny because I type too much. I enclose the list of most popular boys and girls names in the UK for the year 2000 (as I remember it, courtesy of Private Eye), which may be of some use to you ... Boys Harry Potter Becks Wassupp Rocco Gerbil Pierre-Yves Leo Girls Nokia Cherie Mir Posh Madonna From fmu30c at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 09:54:27 2001 From: fmu30c at yahoo.com (Rena) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:54:27 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] HP & Personality Types References: <9a06fm+ul5t@eGroups.com> <3AC3C6D3.50AD5BD@swbell.net> Message-ID: <020401c0b8ff$8d598780$98fe163f@rena> I'm an ISFJ, too *g* Rena Hi -- You know we did Myers-Briggs with respect to the 4 Hogwarts Houses back last May (it's in the Hogwarts FAQ that I'm working on). But, IIRC, no one took it a step further & tried to discern what the various characters would be under Myers-Briggs. This is very interesting. I just pulled out my own MB results from pre-marital counseling at our church. I am ISFJ, which is almost exactly where B has placed Hermione. So, being that Hermione is my favorite character, I sure won't quarrel with this! I do think it's possible that she's an extrovert, but in general, I think she probably is more introverted than not. As B noted, she could go either way on Feeling or Thinking. She's got a bit of both. The Houses MB results were that Gryffindors as a whole are extroverts, but I definitely think Harry is more of an introvert. I also like what this says for the ship possibilities (unless one subscribes to the notion that opposites attract). :--) My husband is ESTJ -- not too much like Harry or Ron. Maybe Draco would be an ESTJ. Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 30 10:51:56 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:51:56 -0000 Subject: BOQ #89 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a1ogc+vb3r@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > Is it too soon for another question from The Book of Questions? Well, > here's another one anyway: > > #89 Where would you choose to be if you > could place yourself anywhere on a scale > from one to ten, where one is hardship, > struggle and extraordinary accomplishment, > and ten is comfort, peace of mind, and NO > accomplishment. > Why? > Where are you now on the scale? > Hmm, at the moment I'm definitely _not_ at ten for the comfort and peace of mind (which I assume is luxury cruise ships, champagne on ice, friends you are close to etc etc) but am not actually accomplishing an awful lot [logs out of yahoogroups] so can't place myself on the scale atm. I was going to say that I'd like to be at about three, but obviously I'd like comfort, peace of mind and extraordinary accomplishment. Without the accomplishment the comfortable life would be boring and empty. But then if you had peace of mind, then you wouldn't think that. Hmmmm. Am I making any sense here? -Ben. "And thick and fast they came at last, and more, and more, and more." From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 12:28:22 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:28:22 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <012d01c0b903$25207b20$a64e28d1@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <9a1u56+ps0k@eGroups.com> Saitaina said: <> Not *so* rare: I also came out as INTP ("The Conceiver") on one test, but I mostly turn out as INFJ ("The Idealist") on these tests. I think I tend towards being a Conceiver when I'm in work mode, but I'm an Idealist in the rest of my life. Hmmm. Saitaina, I wonder how similar we really are? Neil Flying Ford Anglia From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 12:31:21 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:31:21 -0000 Subject: H/G too siblingish? Message-ID: <9a1uap+6ii3@eGroups.com> Ebony wrote on the main list: >Family legend has it that the reason why my aunt's best friend has >never married is because she's still carrying that old torch for this >cousin... who is married with two kids and will never see her as >anything more than a *sister*. > >20+ years of pining. Do we *really* want something like this for >Ginny? Or do we want someone who will appreciate her? What a sad story. One of my great-aunts and -uncles started out as sister and foster brother. He was a Jewish immigrant kid, just off the boat, on his own in NYC, who was literally wandering the streets looking for his brother and latched onto this big family of recent Jewish immigrants (he eventually found his brother too). My aunt's father regarded him as a son, and the kids all grew up together (though my aunt and uncle were already adolescents when he moved in). After some years it was clear to the two young people that they were in love; they had to marshal the support of her siblings, his foster siblings, to insist to their parents that they could marry. I don't know whether my uncle and aunt themselves found it difficult to switch from sister-brotherly feeling to romantic; perhaps the stirrings of romance were there from the beginning so that the sisterbrotherliness was secondary. It seems to have been a long and happy marriage. I don't think we can draw conclusions from your story or mine about Harry/Ginny, or any other relationship that starts with a more sibling-type relationship. I would just throw this out there to say that people have a wide range of ways of dealing with the fuzziness between sisterbrotherly feeling and romance. People can definitely appreciate someone they've regarded as a sister-why must Harry fail to appreciate Ginny just because he spends a lot of time with her family? Besides, I'd question the premise. Harry isn't *that* much a Weasley. He's Ron's best friend and a friend of the family, with plenty of maternal attention from Molly, to be sure, but not to the point yet that he is more a Weasley son than a friend. I don't think that a romance would be jarring. Hell, one of the primary ways people meet partners is by dating their siblings' friends-where it gets weird for some people, like your aunt's friend, is when *they* are seen as the sibling. I'm not sure the Weasleys think of Harry as another brother. And I'm sure that Ginny, who's had a crush on him since before they met, doesn't think of him that way, though she may come to. Amy Z ---------------------------------------------- Harry liked this clock. It was completely useless if you wanted to know the time, but otherwise very informative. -HP and the Goblet of Fire ---------------------------------------------- From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 12:32:17 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:32:17 -0000 Subject: Amanda makes a conquest! Message-ID: <9a1uch+1fgo@eGroups.com> Amanda posted to the main list: >This reminded me of something my husband said (he of the 2/3 the way >through book 1). A breach! Amanda has delivered him to us and he will be putty in our hands! Bwahahahaha! Amy Z ---------------------------------------------- However, it is easy to repulse the Pogrebin with simple hexes or Stupefying Charms. Kicking has also been found effective. -Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them ---------------------------------------------- From aiz24 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 12:33:12 2001 From: aiz24 at hotmail.com (Amy Z) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:33:12 -0000 Subject: Jen's dog Message-ID: <9a1ue8+jiru@eGroups.com> Jen Piersol posted to the main list that her sister had found a taker for their dog-- Why do you have to give away your dog? :-( Amy Z From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Fri Mar 30 12:35:22 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:35:22 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a1uia+5dg3@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > Hi yall, > [snip] > > So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a computer, > now's the time to yell :D > > --John I cannot fathom how people can consider *any* other name for their computer than HAL. Best regards Christian Stub? P.S. You might consider taking the road of CATS - i.e. giving your computer three different names, but refuse to reveal the third name... From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 13:00:21 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:00:21 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper References: <9a1de7+l4gp@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC48365.B2A39BCA@texas.net> catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk wrote: > I have given up on my Husband. He hates fantasy, hates sci fi, hates > Buffy. Will not read HP. Again, when he has time to read, which > isn't often, he prefers John le Carre and others of that ilk. I > managed to get him to read Captain Corelli, but that was after months > of persuasion and he didn't cry and become emotionally involved as I > did. Why did I marry him ? Because men are good for other things than reading with...... 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In the middle, edging more towards comfort and peace of mind, but with the capability for achievement. I like moderation, and this gives me a bit of both extremes without losing myself--on the one end, you lose yourself in the struggle and give everything up for the accomplishment, and on the other end, you lose yourself because there is no challenge. I'm self-centered enough to want to keep me, but challenged enough to want *some* accomplishment. That make sense? --Amanda, waiting for that "ten" week, oh, someday... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saitaina at wizzards.net Fri Mar 30 13:35:43 2001 From: saitaina at wizzards.net (Saitaina) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:35:43 -0800 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & Personality Types References: <9a1u56+ps0k@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <014d01c0b91e$524e6240$a64e28d1@oemcomputer> That is an interesting question, how similar we are...hmmm... 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I have a personal organizer thats named Gus (for some reason I think Gus is a calming name) and I've named my plants the following: Morgana, (she's a mother in laws tongue plant) and Owen (an English Ivy). I also have a Kitchen Witch named Mabel. Hopefully that helps! Hugs Jamieson yael-pou wrote: > Well, John, the newest addition to our company is called 'Snitch', so > that's taken. Maybe you could call it 'Quaffle' *snorts*.All right, > depending on the comp's destination. - If it's mainly for writing and > "quiet" operations, you may want to call it 'Hermione' or 'Flourish' > or name it after one of the Ravenclaws.- If it's for more active > operations, you may chose 'Harry', 'Potter' (how trite) or after one > of the Weasleys, preferably Charlie.- If you want it restless and > unpredictable, call it Pigwidgeon.- If you want it to keep losing your > documents, call it Neville.- Whatever you do, don't call it > 'Voldemort', 'Snape', 'Malfoy', any one of the Death Eaters or their > children, 'Aragog', 'Basilisk' or 'Fudge' (don't ask why Fudge is > here). :) yael > > John: "What is s/he? An Apple Power Mac G4 Cube, with DVD > (I've got an external > CD-RW on the way too). Pictures can be found at > www.apple.com/powermaccube. > > So, if you've got a name you've always wanted to see on a > computer, now's > the time to yell :D" > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailD1.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailG1.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Mar 30 14:45:45 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:45:45 -0600 Subject: Personality Type Message-ID: <3AC49C19.3FEE144C@swbell.net> Hi - I retook the test through Ebony's link to see if I'd changed in the last 8 years. I came out ISTJ (rather than ISFJ) on that one. That's fine -- I could probably go either way on the feeling/thinking thing (like Hermione!). :--) Both my husband & I were 100% on the judging aspect 8 years ago -- this test doesn't give you where you place out on the various tests. Oh well. Penny From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 14:49:00 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:49:00 -0000 Subject: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper In-Reply-To: <3AC48365.B2A39BCA@texas.net> Message-ID: <9a26cs+2nt7@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > catherine at c... wrote: > > > I have given up on my Husband. He hates fantasy, hates sci fi, hates > > Buffy. Will not read HP. Again, when he has time to read, which > > isn't often, he prefers John le Carre and others of that ilk. I > > managed to get him to read Captain Corelli, but that was after months > > of persuasion and he didn't cry and become emotionally involved as I > > did. Why did I marry him ? > > Because men are good for other things than reading with...... > > Like washing the dishes or watching the kids while *you* read. > > --Amanda, clearly married for more than ten years Different perspectives - I've been married less than a year! (But it's nice to share isn't it?) Catherine From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 15:33:38 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:33:38 -0000 Subject: Jen's dog (very long and more than you want to know) In-Reply-To: <9a1ue8+jiru@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a290i+hl9k@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" wrote: > Jen Piersol posted to the main list that her sister had found a taker > for their dog-- > > Why do you have to give away your dog? > > :-( > Amy Z Well, it's fairly involved, but here goes.. (note: the following may be offensive to dog lovers everywhere - not that there's been any abuse of said dog, but because I am not a dog lover...) My husband and I had been married for almost a year when he came home one afternoon after work and told me, "My boss is coming over to show us a couple of dogs he has to give away - I told him we might be able to take one." My reaction: shock. We had two cats and a rat (in a cage, in a cage...) as well as some fish that my husband *almost* neglected. And now a dog? And I don't like dogs at all... they're way too "in your face", and I got knocked down by overly-aggressive dogs a lot while I was young, so I've never been comfortable with them. Well, my hubby's boss came over with two dogs, one a medium sized puppy, and one small, almost full-grown dog. Well, my husband was completely taken with the puppy and asked me if we could take her in front of his boss. Me, being the wimp that I am, didn't give him a straight "no" or even a bendy "can we talk about this first?" - so he took my "welll....." as a "yes" and we basically got a dog. Then we bought a house, had a kid, and took on more hours at work to pay for this house and kid, so the dog basically languishes in the back yard with nobody home to give her much attention. And I admit, when I am home, I'm not too anxious to spend a lot of "quality" time with her - she is a dog, and I don't like dogs. She gets so bored out there that she digs holes under the fence and escapes - she digs holes to chase gophers, she digs holes probably to trip my husband when he mows the grass back there just for her own amusement. She's WAY too smart for her own good - I think she gets most of her fun by thinking up ways to get out of the yard - and then hides them from us.... this happened once, and we didn't find out how she was getting out for almost a month. Turns out she was jumping a 5ft high fence. The main reason, however, is that she's very VERY friendly with children... which is great in that I'm never worried that my daughter will get bitten or hurt in any *intentional* way, but Ginger has been knocked down many times by an enthusiastic greeting, and it's now to the point that she whimpers and wants to be picked up whenever she meets ANY medium- to big-sized dog... even ours. She loves the dog when she's safe: in her high chair, in my arms, looking out the window. But once the dog gets on her level, she gets this look on her face that tells me that she's starting to panic and would I get this dog out of here pronto?? So we decided that Maddie, though we take care of her well and make sure she has plenty to eat and drink - and bring her in at night to sleep in our room - really should get more love and affection. She needs a family with bigger kids to play with, with parents who *both* like dogs and will spend time playing with her. My sister's friend and her husband jog every day (Maddie would love that), and their daughter is 5 and big for her age (her mom and dad are both over 6ft). They're moving into a 5 bedroom house (we have a small 1100sf home with a medium-sized back yard), Maddie will be more of an indoor dog, and it seems that she'd be much happier over there. Not to mention that I'd have no more holes in my back yard. Jen (don't worry, she's going to tell the woman about the holes... sheesh) ps. if this *does* sound bad to dog-lover ears, listen to this. My husband's cousin had two dogs. She professed to be an animal rights activist, loved all animals, etc. But she locked these animals in the garage ALL DAY... in a small kennel. All day. And when they finally worked their way out (not that there was much more space in the garage - it was crammed full of stuff) and tore stuff up trying to get out, she yelled at them and hit them... and wondered why they were such devil dogs. So finally, she sent them to a no-kill shelter - after being on a list for a month, and then lying about having allergies - and then once again, started up with her animal rights bs - "I just couldn't send them to a regular shelter - they're good-looking dogs, someone will want them." Now THAT's terrible. Besides... my husband and I realize that when we took the dog, we took on responsibility, and we can't just find an easy way to get out of that responsibility. If this family doesn't work out, well, we're keeping the dog. If it does, we're giving her to a more affectionate home. Hopefully, that's not irresponsible of us. me again From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Fri Mar 30 16:05:55 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:05:55 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a2at3+u3nu@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: and all I need to do now is > find a name. That's where you all come in! John, I can see your problem. You have to consider this carefully as computers need very little excuse to have bad moods and naming it badly could have dire consequences. If it's any help, these are some of the names I use for my computer; 1)You bastard 2)Goddamn piece of sh*t 3)F***ing thing 4)Biiiiatch! etc. You name the profanity and it will have been used in reference to my computer at some point. According to Microsoft, windows NT/2000 doesn't blue screen. This is a lie. > What is s/he? An Apple Power Mac G4 Cube, with DVD (I've got an external > CD-RW on the way too). Pictures can be found at www.apple.com/powermaccube. Before you name it however, perhaps you should send it back and get a real computer, ie. one that runs MS applications, bluescreens 12 times a day, freezes whenever you try to run Autocad, Winamp and Outlook at the same time, bluescreens in the middle of formatting the "My files" partition of my harddisk, bluescreens on startup, bluescreens on shutdown, bluescreens when you move the mouse too fast etc. Still, I'm sure it's not Bill Gates' fault. Dai From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 30 16:12:52 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:12:52 -0000 Subject: Jen's scores and self-reflection (was re: personality types) In-Reply-To: <9a17l6+671j@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2ba4+cf8l@eGroups.com> Jen: I tend to daydream quite a bit, but it's always a practical daydream. I plan things out step by step, but always hope that something unexpected falls in my path. I pride myself on being logical and reasonable, but then I fall off the handle emotionally regularly. I'm just a jumble of things, really... a SHY jumble. ;) It's so bad that my husband has finally given up trying to make me call people. I'd make a bet that I have called to have dinner delivered maybe 6 times in the (almost) 4 years we've been married... and 2 of those 6 times were because he was at work and couldn't call for me.<<< Hmmm, I'm allegedly an INFP too, there seem to be far too many of us on this list for it to be only 1% of the population (although, it is probably not a fair sample) It basically says I should never do anything with numbers, so how come I'm teaching maths tomorrow? Anyway, problems arise with phoning/calling people if you have a whole group of IXXX together, going into restaurants to find if they have any spare tables is a nightmare (Whispered asides outside entrance: "I asked last time, it's your turn", "It can't be my turn, what about Heather?", "It's never Heather's turn", "They look really busy, Why don't we just get a takeaway?") Talking of this why don't I just shut up and go and write down some numbers and press a few buttons. -Ben. From moongirlk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 16:37:44 2001 From: moongirlk at yahoo.com (Kimberly) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:37:44 -0000 Subject: Jen's scores and self-reflection (was re: personality types) In-Reply-To: <9a2ba4+cf8l@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2coo+4qka@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Benjamin" wrote: > > Jen: I tend to daydream quite a bit, but it's always a practical > daydream. I plan things out step by step, but always hope that > something unexpected falls in my path. I pride myself on being > logical and reasonable, but then I fall off the handle emotionally > regularly. I'm just a jumble of things, really... a SHY jumble. ;) > It's so bad that my husband has finally given up trying to make me > call people. I'd make a bet that I have called to have dinner > delivered maybe 6 times in the (almost) 4 years we've been married... > and 2 of those 6 times were because he was at work and couldn't call > for me.<<< > > Hmmm, I'm allegedly an INFP too, there seem to be far too many of us > on this list for it to be only 1% of the population (although, it is > probably not a fair sample) I think you must be right. HP fans must have a higher overall percentage of us INFPs, because I've run across bunches of us lately, and I think it's mostly been in HP land. It basically says I should never do > anything with numbers, so how come I'm teaching maths tomorrow? > Anyway, problems arise with phoning/calling people if you have a > whole group of IXXX together, going into restaurants to find if they > have any spare tables is a nightmare (Whispered asides outside > entrance: "I asked last time, it's your turn", "It can't be my turn, > what about Heather?", "It's never Heather's turn", "They look really > busy, Why don't we just get a takeaway?") I think my whole family (save my sister, who's a definite E) must have been INFPs then - we didn't even like to call for delivery! The personality tests got me curious about some posts about dog breeds awhile back, so last night I looked those up and went and found emode.com and took about a dozen quizzes. It was fun, and much cheaper than buying all those magazines for the quizzes. kimberly who's apparently an invisible yellow st bernard with a gold aura From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 17:25:41 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:25:41 -0000 Subject: Personality Types Message-ID: <9a2fil+fbuq@eGroups.com> Can someone please tell me what the difference is between INTP and INFP? From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 17:33:31 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:33:31 -0000 Subject: emode.com personalities (was re: jen's scores) In-Reply-To: <9a2coo+4qka@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2g1b+hh2l@eGroups.com> lots of stuff snipped... > kimberly > who's apparently an invisible yellow st bernard with a gold aura hehe... I'm supposedly an invisible brown basset hound gemini (who should be a virgo) that is a "regular cup of joe" with a gold aura. Hm. I wonder if I could get any more "down to earth and practical"? Jen (who is leaving for San Diego for the weekend and should really be cleaning up the house and packing...) From simon at hp.inbox.as Fri Mar 30 18:34:17 2001 From: simon at hp.inbox.as (Simon) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:34:17 +0100 Subject: naming computers In-Reply-To: <985945985.34792.56838.l8@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Yael: "If it's for more active operations, you may chose 'Harry', 'Potter' (how trite)..." What are you trying to say? My computer used to be called Harry. Yael: "If you want it restless and unpredictable, call it Pigwidgeon." And now it is called Pigwidgeon. My computer gets renamed when I get bored and decide it needs a new name (so every few months). Guess it must have a personality crisis by now. Should I send it off for therapy? Simon From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 19:20:30 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:20:30 -0000 Subject: naming computers Message-ID: <9a2m9u+1uqo@eGroups.com> I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I weird? Heather M. From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 30 19:30:05 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:30:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] naming computers In-Reply-To: <9a2m9u+1uqo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home > (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I > weird? Are you implying computers are inanimate?? Surely not! *g* --jen, the animist :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 19:32:31 2001 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (Jennifer Piersol) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:32:31 -0000 Subject: naming computers In-Reply-To: <9a2m9u+1uqo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2n0f+bvjj@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home > (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I > weird? > > Heather M. Well.... yes. ;) Just kidding. I've never named a plant, and my husband is the one that tends to name the computers... (right now, our family computer's hard drive is labelled "gingerstar"), but we did name our car when we first bought it (haven't used the name enough to remember what it was, though... Sophie?). My mom and dad named one of their vehicles Harvey, but that was because he was an International Harvester... so it wasn't too creative. They used it more along the lines of "do you want to use the Harvey, or can I?" Their other vehicle was named "Diesel" for probably obvious reasons. ;) The only other things I give names to are animals (and people)... so I suppose I'm weird, too. Of course, we probably established that months and months ago... Jen (who is slowly revealing how weird she is on OTChatter) From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 30 20:09:00 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:09:00 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects References: <9a2n0f+bvjj@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <000501c0b955$446c97a0$5114a3d1@doreen> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home > (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I > weird? > > Heather M. *********** My ex-husband WAS an inanimate object ... still is for all I know. Doreen, Corn Patch Witch From aichambaye at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 20:16:42 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:16:42 -0000 Subject: naming computers In-Reply-To: <9a2n0f+bvjj@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2pja+d8vc@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jennifer Piersol" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., aichambaye at y... wrote: > > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home > > (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am > I > > weird? > > > > Heather M. > > Well.... yes. Heh heh heh. > > ;) > > Just kidding. I've never named a plant, and my husband is the one > that tends to name the computers... (right now, our family computer's > hard drive is labelled "gingerstar"), but we did name our car when we > first bought it (haven't used the name enough to remember what it was, > though... Sophie?). My mom and dad named one of their vehicles > Harvey, but that was because he was an International Harvester... so > it wasn't too creative. They used it more along the lines of "do you > want to use the Harvey, or can I?" Their other vehicle was named > "Diesel" for probably obvious reasons. ;) > > The only other things I give names to are animals (and people)... so > I suppose I'm weird, too. Of course, we probably established that > months and months ago... > > Jen (who is slowly revealing how weird she is on OTChatter) I honestly can't remember ever naming a car or a computer or anything like that. I don't call cars "she" either. I wonder why? I think I'll blame it on my parents. heather From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 30 20:37:05 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:37:05 -0600 Subject: Not a Tom Swiftie... Message-ID: <004701c0b959$322cd240$5114a3d1@doreen> Clear DayWotan suggested to me that we come up with a new game, other than Tom Swifties, as they seem to have dwindled out. If this has not been done before, what about anagrams or partial anagrams of names of people, places, whatever from the books? We have the TOM MARVOLO RIDDLE I AM LORD VOLDEMORT and Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi I show not your face but your hearts desire Can anyone come up with any more? Even if it is a partial, yet funny or meaningful anagram. For starters: NAGINI IN A GIN Doreen, Corn Patch Witch, Director of Silly Activities -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Doreen From pennylin at swbell.net Fri Mar 30 21:16:26 2001 From: pennylin at swbell.net (Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:16:26 -0600 Subject: The Long Road to H/H References: <9a0ajq+bs89@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC4F7AA.AED28FAD@swbell.net> Hi -- cassandraclaire at mail.com wrote: > And I discovered that I was getting a special kick out of certain > Harry/Hermione moments -- when she embraces him in Book 1, all the > Time-Turner business in Book 3. It wasn't a solid theory, just an > inkling/feeling that they would be a cute couple. That was my feeling on re-reading the books too (although I did it with PoU in mind admittedly). > loved the bits at the First Task when Hermione runs into the tent and > tells Harry he was amazing, he really was (maybe it's partly the > emphasis Jim Dale gives it in the audio version, but I remember > listening to it with my boyfriend, who turned to me at that point and > said, "Oh, she SO wants him.") You know that's funny. I don't overall like Dale's rendition of Hermione, but I did really like his take on that particular scene. I too had that same reaction when I heard those tapes for the first time (course I was already a confirmed H/H shipper at that point). But, I like your boyfriend's take on that Cassie! > If fanfic converted me to anything, it was the possibility of > Hermione/Draco. Which I still like way better than R/H. Here, here! D/H is definitely preferable to me than R/H. :--) But, as Heidi so aptly pointed out to me by searching through those Archives (I had posted that there was *no* more unlikely romantic pair than D/H) -- this is entirely a fanfic conversion. :--) Penny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Fri Mar 30 22:05:26 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:05:26 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a1u56+ps0k@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a2vv6+9t7l@eGroups.com> > Saitaina said: > < both tests featured that I could find). It seems I'm so rare I'm the only one of my kind (not really, both are just rare personality and temperament types). I now feel very exposed and shall hide for the remainder of the day after taking these tests.>> > > Neil: > Not *so* rare: I also came out as INTP ("The Conceiver") on one test, but I mostly turn out as INFJ ("The Idealist") on these tests. I think I tend towards being a Conceiver when I'm in work mode, but I'm an Idealist in the rest of my life. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I came out INTP ("The Conceiver") on MB and "Rational, NT" on the Keirsey. I've never taken either one before, and know very little about them. A problem I ran into on both of these, especially the Keirsey, and on various other 'personality' tests as well, is having an extremely difficult time choosing between answers. I would say a third or less of the questions had a clear-cut answer for me. Does this seem common? Both descriptions do seem to capture a part of me, but neither seemed spot on. Do these have anything to do with relationship compatibility? If so, are people more compatible with types similar to their own? Interesting.... Kelley From editor at texas.net Fri Mar 30 22:09:51 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:09:51 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] naming computers References: <9a2m9u+1uqo@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC5042F.F0A6FDC2@texas.net> aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home > (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I > weird? Nah. Most of my inanimate objects have descriptive names--my car was the Purple Bomb, now it's the Jellybean, that sort of thing. The exception is stuffed animals, who tend to have names (Hieronymous Bearsh, Emerson, Wellington, Hegel, etc.). Most of the names of my computer (and my cat, come to think of it) are of the incandescent variety described by another poster. --Amanda, whose cat chews up paper, steals cookies from the kids, and horks up hairballs on prime walking locations the *instant* he knows she's sleeping... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Fri Mar 30 22:15:19 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:15:19 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Not a Tom Swiftie... References: <004701c0b959$322cd240$5114a3d1@doreen> <005501c0b95c$75535820$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <017001c0b966$e8b8c5c0$5114a3d1@doreen> Clear DaySLYTHERIN THEY LIRNS Doreen CPW-DSA ----- Original Message ----- From: Doreen To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Not a Tom Swiftie... WEASLEY SEE YAWL Doreen, CPW-DSA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 22:26:23 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:26:23 -0000 Subject: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper In-Reply-To: <3AC4FD74.3955DCD5@texas.net> Message-ID: <9a316f+rgs2@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > catherine at c... wrote: > > > > Because men are good for other things than reading with...... > > > > > > Like washing the dishes or watching the kids while *you* read. > > > > > > --Amanda, clearly married for more than ten years > > > > Different perspectives - I've been married less than a year! (But > > it's nice to share isn't it?) > > Willing to share already? And not even married a year? Different > perspectives, indeed.... > > --Amanda, Washing dishes? I'm not with you here ... don't you just chuck the cartons in the trash? Wotan From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 22:27:34 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:27:34 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: <006e01c0b95d$1f23a260$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9a318m+58lr@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > Give me time ... I am just worming up here... > Try some antibiotics ... From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 22:30:29 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:30:29 -0000 Subject: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper In-Reply-To: <3AC4FD74.3955DCD5@texas.net> Message-ID: <9a31e5+ipb9@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: > catherine at c... wrote: > > > > Because men are good for other things than reading with...... > > > > > > Like washing the dishes or watching the kids while *you* read. > > > > > > --Amanda, clearly married for more than ten years > > > > Different perspectives - I've been married less than a year! (But > > it's nice to share isn't it?) > > Willing to share already? And not even married a year? Different > perspectives, indeed.... > > --Amanda, Ha, ha, ha.... Catherine From nlpnt at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 22:30:32 2001 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:30:32 -0000 Subject: Help John name his new computer! In-Reply-To: <006e01c0b95d$1f23a260$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9a31e8+qjd@eGroups.com> My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've had the same number on five cars now! My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers crossed). -Noel, who really needs to see some TV shows made after 1990. From neilward at dircon.co.uk Fri Mar 30 22:08:17 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:08:17 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects References: <9a2n0f+bvjj@eGroups.com> <000501c0b955$446c97a0$5114a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <007401c0b966$011db220$203670c2@c5s910j> Various people suggested names and expletives for John's computer.... and then this happened:- Heather said: > > I don't name my inanimate objects. Only living things in my home (husband, me, Irish the cat, and SOME of the plants) have names. Am I weird? As a matter of interest, what did you decide to call yourself? Now name those other plants, Heather!!! They have feelings you know. Doreen said: > > My ex-husband WAS an inanimate object ... still is for all I know. LOL. There's no accounting for men, is there? **** Y'know, I hate it when people give their cars human names, like 'Clive' or 'Mandy'. It would be a far happier world if all people took the names of cars instead. Flying Ford Anglia From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Fri Mar 30 23:07:43 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:07:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a2fil+fbuq@eGroups.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk wrote: > Can someone please tell me what the difference is between INTP and > INFP? INTP and INFP are actually pretty similar, obviously. The INTP is more concerned with logic, analysis, and so on, whereas the INFP values imagination, creativity and fantasy more. I could crudely put the distinction as the literary critic (INTP) vs. the writer (INFP), but I think that's terribly simplistic, not to mention inaccurate (says me, the INFP literary critic, right?). Still, that's about what it boils down to. Kimberly wrote: > I think you must be right.? HP fans must have a higher overall > percentage of us INFPs, because I've run across bunches of us > lately, and I think it's mostly been in HP land. Considering that the HP books are fantasy (not to start in on the whole question of their genre again, though!), I'm not at all surprised to see so many INFPs... But to see so many vocal ones *g* ! Benjamin wrote: > It basically says I should never do anything with numbers, so how > come I'm teaching maths tomorrow? As fun as these sorts of tests are, don't take them too seriously (I really don't think they should be given in, say, work-situations). They're a little more accurate ('scientific') than astrology, for example, but they still vastly underestimate the complexity of personality, let alone things that aren't part of that. IOW, just because you score as an INFP doesn't mean you won't/shouldn't be good at things involving logic or structured systems; it more tries to suggest that's not your preferred way of looking at the world. If I had no ability to think logically, analytically, and systematically, I certainly wouldn't have chosen to go into classics, and I couldn't have minored in cs as an undergrad. But, OTOH, whatever abilities I might have in logic, it's not the way I really relate to things; I usually use it as a secondary means of backing up what I've already intuited, felt, and perceived. And I hate strategy games, puzzles, etc., passionately. (Of course, CS205, which was an entire class in formal logic, was one of my favorite undergrad courses. Go figure. I adored doing proofs and so on.) > Anyway, problems arise with phoning/calling people if you have a > whole group of IXXX together Oh, do they ever!! One time, in college, a friend and I wanted to order food... well, after we spent hours debating what we should order, where from (and I'm not exaggerating about the time there! Two indecisive people together are much, much worse than one), it came time to Make The Call. Neither one of us wanted to... we cooked pasta instead. --jen, just blathering now... :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From hamster8 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 23:19:12 2001 From: hamster8 at hotmail.com (hamster8 at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:19:12 -0000 Subject: naming computers & inanimate objects In-Reply-To: <007401c0b966$011db220$203670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <9a349g+vbvb@eGroups.com> Neil said ... "Y'know, I hate it when people give their cars human names, like 'Clive' or 'Mandy'. It would be a far happier world if all people took the names of cars instead. Flying Ford Anglia" Ooh, ooh, my bike is called Vinnie, for no apparent reason. I also agree whole-heartedly with the above, and am hereby referring to myself as 'Alfa Romeo 147' So, listees, if *you* could be a car, what car would it be? Neil is exempt from this entertaining new thread, because we already know what kind of car he is :-) *Alfa Romeo 147 drives vaguely westwards* From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Fri Mar 30 23:23:04 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:23:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cars References: <9a349g+vbvb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <03c201c0b970$5f003a20$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Jaguar four-door. (Don't ask me what the specifics are, I don't know them!) The one with the 3-d hood ornament and not just a circle on the hood! A SATURN! (Now this fits!) SL-1 or even a beaten Plymouth Sundance, sky blue, with a bit of kinds, and a broken radio, but runs nicely. 1990, of course. (My car has finally returned from the 6-mos shop trip! Now just to learn how to drive the rest of the way {temps, need passenger to practice, and to stop running over stupid cones~} Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects > Neil said ... > > "Y'know, I hate it when people give their cars human names, > like 'Clive' or 'Mandy'. It would be a far happier world if all > people took the names of cars instead. > > Flying Ford Anglia" > > Ooh, ooh, my bike is called Vinnie, for no apparent reason. I also > agree whole-heartedly with the above, and am hereby referring to > myself as 'Alfa Romeo 147' > > So, listees, if *you* could be a car, what car would it be? > Neil is exempt from this entertaining new thread, because we already > know what kind of car he is :-) > > *Alfa Romeo 147 drives vaguely westwards* > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tanwo at hotmail.com Fri Mar 30 23:49:41 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:49:41 -0000 Subject: Anagarms, was Not a Tom Swiftie... 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The above are what the server considers to be the best 200 anagrams. With your own copy of the Windows/MacOS software you can find hundreds more anagrams, they will be based on a lexicon that is almost twice as big and you will have much more control over the process resulting in far better anagrams! Download a copy now: http://www.genius2000.com/eorder.html The following are the 10 longest words made using some of the letters: atmosphere parameters stepmother parameter semaphore separator temporary asymptote metaphors prayer-mat Anagrams created with the ** Anagram Genius ** software (available for your Windows or MacOS computer) Full details from: http://www.genius2000.com/ag.html Email: genius2000 at genius2000.com From john at walton.to Sat Mar 31 00:13:49 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:13:49 -0500 Subject: Presenting...Draco! In-Reply-To: <3AC49977.2ACDA5C0@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Hi all, I'm typing this from Draco, my new Cube. He's *gorgeous*. I love everything about him -- the smooth, slot-loading DVD/CD drive (I'm going to head over to the public library tonight to rent some DVDs I've not seen in ages), the simple, clean lines of both him and his monitor (as yet unnamed), the oomph that the tiny speakers have -- I'm a serious music-lover, and these speakers are better than my Bose sound system -- the ease with which he comes apart when I want to install more RAM (arriving tomorrow)...I love everything about him. ::strokes Draco:: FWIW, I had an absolutely delightful experience with Outpost.com. Over on a computer list I belong to, Outpost have a bad name for not shipping the newest Apple laptop when they said they were going to, but I was thoroughly impressed. I find them particularly advantageous because they make no charge for 2nd Day Shipping, with only a $13 surcharge for overnight, which I took advantage of. Combine this with the $200 I saved on NY State Sales Tax by buying interstate, and I'm a very happy and slightly-less-cash-strapped bunny. Disclaimer: I have no connection with Outpost.com. Neither does HPFGU. --John, now hopping along to finish off SoT6... From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 00:14:52 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:14:52 -0000 Subject: FW: Anagrams of 'Harry James Potter' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a37hs+3488@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" wrote: > If you want to get serious about anagrams..... nyuk nyuk nyuk > No mechanical aids, thank-you. Alcoholic stimulants *are* permitted ;) Wotan From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 00:17:10 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:17:10 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: FW: Anagrams of 'Harry James Potter' References: <9a37hs+3488@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <044401c0b977$f5b80ae0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> (J/K, btw...) Dai, if this is the case, you're in the lead! Grins! Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:14 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: FW: Anagrams of 'Harry James Potter' > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Sister Mary Lunatic" > wrote: > > If you want to get serious about anagrams..... nyuk nyuk nyuk > > > > No mechanical aids, thank-you. Alcoholic stimulants *are* permitted ;) > > Wotan > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From john at walton.to Sat Mar 31 00:29:37 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:29:37 -0500 Subject: You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) In-Reply-To: <9a31e8+qjd@eGroups.com> Message-ID: on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > had the same number on five cars now! > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > crossed). ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was followed by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed From inyron at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 00:43:38 2001 From: inyron at yahoo.com (inyron at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:43:38 -0000 Subject: Anagarms, was Not a Tom Swiftie... In-Reply-To: <9a362l+4onv@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a397q+cvb9@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > Well Hermione seems to lend herself to anagrams ... one could easily > imagine the following anagramised conversation between Hermione and, > er, say, er, Ron - > > > No I'm here > Mine hero > I'm her one > Or he mine > Ya, Hermione is good for anagrams. Hero in me Oi! Her men! 'm Heroine funny if your a fan of DD/DS: Heir on me inyron From dwe199 at soton.ac.uk Sat Mar 31 01:28:49 2001 From: dwe199 at soton.ac.uk (Dai Evans) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:28:49 -0000 Subject: Cars In-Reply-To: <03c201c0b970$5f003a20$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <9a3bsh+bvhd@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Denise R" wrote: > Jaguar four-door. (Don't ask me what the specifics are, I don't know them!) > The one with the 3-d hood ornament and not just a circle on the hood! Jags are nice (you could be referring to an older XJ6 or a MKII), and incidentally if you're gonna be a jag, be an XK120, like Valmont drives in Cruel Intentions. However jags really don't hold a candle to... and this would me my mechanimagus form (if I could only get the damn transformation perfected)... good old Astons. In particular the Aston Martin DB7 Vantage. Rah. Mid-mounted 5.9 litre V12. It makes me weak at the knees just thinking about it. Comes with a close ratio 6-speed gearbox. Also there's a 5 speed automatic version if you're lame enough to want an automatic Aston (what the hell's going on there?). Wheels like garden rollers, with a tiny layer of rubber on the outside of the alu-alloy. And the whole package can be mine for just over ?100 grand. Donations would be appreciated. Dai From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 01:46:46 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:46:46 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: Message-ID: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> Hey, I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about thirteen, for one show. I played Mooses cousin. And trust me, you DON'T want to get slimed! It's gross stuff; made from oatmeal, cornstarch, water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and green dye...it was nasty...they had another complete outfit just like the one I was wearing cus you couldn't clean it out of the clothes. It was all good, though, I had a great time doing it. I got slimed three times in the show. You know it's coming, you know it's going to happen, but your still not prepared for it. It's damn cold, and heaven help you if it gets in your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh well, it was fun, fun, fun! Nuff said...Jamieson John Walton wrote: > on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > > > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > > > had the same number on five cars now! > > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > > > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > > crossed). > > ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my > preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was > followed > by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: > > --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail9U.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailN6.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 02:01:34 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:01:34 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: Message-ID: <04cd01c0b986$8394d7e0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Good Lord, John. I guess we're about the same age. I used to slide the slider to the one side, and settle in front of the television (after Luke and Laura, urgh. Mom watched that) to watch my two favorites, You Can't and Tomorrow People. (Had a crush on one of them, but for the life of me can't recall the name. Not the oldest boy, the second oldest. I did like Mike, though. I also watched the show with the little shows in it like Cassie Palmer. I think I saw Cassie Palmer a good 17 times! They kept repeating it over and over! :) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walton" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) > on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > > > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > > had the same number on five cars now! > > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > > crossed). > > ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my > preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was followed > by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: > > --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 02:04:03 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:04:03 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <04e001c0b986$dc22d380$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> By the way, what was THAT phrase again? Grins... (seriously I can't remember!) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) Hey, I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about thirteen, for one show. I played Mooses cousin. And trust me, you DON'T want to get slimed! It's gross stuff; made from oatmeal, cornstarch, water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and green dye...it was nasty...they had another complete outfit just like the one I was wearing cus you couldn't clean it out of the clothes. It was all good, though, I had a great time doing it. I got slimed three times in the show. You know it's coming, you know it's going to happen, but your still not prepared for it. It's damn cold, and heaven help you if it gets in your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh well, it was fun, fun, fun! Nuff said...Jamieson John Walton wrote: on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > had the same number on five cars now! > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > crossed). ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was followed by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 02:29:50 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:29:50 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> <04e001c0b986$dc22d380$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <3AC5411D.3E61E482@sympatico.ca> Dare I say it? Dare I?...I do dare.....THAT phrase was... I don't know.... Go ahead, slime me, I'll be ready *grin* J Denise R wrote: > By the way, what was THAT phrase again? > > Grins... (seriously I can't remember!) ~Dee~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Get ICQ'd! 21282374 > ************************** > From there to here, > from here to there, > funny things > are everywhere > Dr. Seuss > ************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jamieson > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On > Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) > Hey, > > I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about thirteen, for > one show. I played Mooses cousin. And trust me, you DON'T > want to get slimed! It's gross stuff; made from oatmeal, > cornstarch, water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could > buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and green dye...it > was nasty...they had another complete outfit just like the > one I was wearing cus you couldn't clean it out of the > clothes. It was all good, though, I had a great time doing > it. I got slimed three times in the show. > > You know it's coming, you know it's going to happen, but > your still not prepared for it. It's damn cold, and heaven > help you if it gets in your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh > well, it was fun, fun, fun! > > Nuff said...Jamieson > > John Walton wrote: > > > on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com > > wrote: > > > > > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the > > letters on the > > > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of > > backfired since I've > > > had the same number on five cars now! > > > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from > > "You Can't Do > > > That On Television", because it and I have an > > agreeiment- I *will* > > > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever > > bluescreens (fingers > > > crossed). > > > > ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The > > staple of my > > preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double > > Dare was followed > > by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy > > memories:: > > > > --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > > of Service. > > -- > "....dream harder, dream true..." > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail8F.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail4T.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 02:40:09 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:40:09 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> <04e001c0b986$dc22d380$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC5411D.3E61E482@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <051301c0b98b$f4c02640$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> I thought I was right. Thanks for having the courage to prove to me I was, J! ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) Dare I say it? Dare I?...I do dare.....THAT phrase was... I don't know.... Go ahead, slime me, I'll be ready *grin* J Denise R wrote: By the way, what was THAT phrase again? Grins... (seriously I can't remember!) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) Hey, I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about thirteen, for one show. I played Mooses cousin. And trust me, you DON'T want to get slimed! It's gross stuff; made from oatmeal, cornstarch, water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and green dye...it was nasty...they had another complete outfit just like the one I was wearing cus you couldn't clean it out of the clothes. It was all good, though, I had a great time doing it. I got slimed three times in the show. You know it's coming, you know it's going to happen, but your still not prepared for it. It's damn cold, and heaven help you if it gets in your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh well, it was fun, fun, fun! Nuff said...Jamieson John Walton wrote: on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > had the same number on five cars now! > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > crossed). ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was followed by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 02:41:44 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:41:44 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> <04e001c0b986$dc22d380$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC5411D.3E61E482@sympatico.ca> <051301c0b98b$f4c02640$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <3AC543E7.85D0B3F7@sympatico.ca> It's all good Dee, but do you remember the other thing you said that got something dumped on you? Hmmmm...? Denise R wrote: > I thought I was right. Thanks for having the courage to prove to me > I was, J! ~Dee~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Get ICQ'd! 21282374 > ************************** > From there to here, > from here to there, > funny things > are everywhere > Dr. Seuss > ************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jamieson > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On > Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) > Dare I say it? Dare I?...I do dare.....THAT phrase was... > > I don't know.... > > Go ahead, slime me, I'll be ready *grin* > > J > > Denise R wrote: > > > By the way, what was THAT phrase again? > > > > Grins... (seriously I can't remember!) ~Dee~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Get ICQ'd! 21282374 > > ************************** > > From there to here, > > from here to there, > > funny things > > are everywhere > > Dr. Seuss > > ************************** > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jamieson > > To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That > > On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new > > computer!) > > Hey, > > > > I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about > > thirteen, for one show. I played Mooses cousin. > > And trust me, you DON'T want to get slimed! It's > > gross stuff; made from oatmeal, cornstarch, > > water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could > > buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and > > green dye...it was nasty...they had another > > complete outfit just like the one I was wearing > > cus you couldn't clean it out of the clothes. It > > was all good, though, I had a great time doing > > it. I got slimed three times in the show. > > > > You know it's coming, you know it's going to > > happen, but your still not prepared for it. It's > > damn cold, and heaven help you if it gets in > > your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh well, it was > > fun, fun, fun! > > > > Nuff said...Jamieson > > > > John Walton wrote: > > > > > on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at > > > nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" > > > because the letters on the > > > > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind > > > of backfired since I've > > > > had the same number on five cars now! > > > > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl > > > host from "You Can't Do > > > > That On Television", because it and I have an > > > agreeiment- I *will* > > > > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever > > > bluescreens (fingers > > > > crossed). > > > > > > ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On > > > Television! The staple of my > > > preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, > > > where Double Dare was followed > > > by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after > > > YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: > > > > > > --John, remembering just how much he wanted to > > > get slimed > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > > > to: > > > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > > Yahoo! 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From jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu Sat Mar 31 02:55:17 2001 From: jfaulkne at eden.rutgers.edu (Jen Faulkner) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:55:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) In-Reply-To: <3AC543E7.85D0B3F7@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Jamieson wrote: > It's all good Dee, but do you remember the other thing you said that got > something dumped on you? Hmmmm...? I do! I do! Water! *grins and ducks* Ah, YCDTOT -- I loved that show... in fact, as far as I was concerned, the coolest thing about Alanis Morisette was that she'd been on it. I also liked the show about Belle, the Pyranees Mtn. dog, a lot... and the one about El Dorado... Double Dare, OTOH, I *hated* -- Mark what's-his-name... Not Mark-Paul Gosselar (sp?)... he was on Saved by the Bell, which I also really hated... And that's so totally cool that you were on the show, Jamieson! I'm *so* jealous now... --jen, suffering from performance envy :) * * * * * * Jen's fics (and other cool stuff): http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~jfaulkne/ Snapeslash listmom: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snapeslash/ Yes, I *am* the Deictrix. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 03:01:44 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:01:44 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: <3AC53706.E2638E28@sympatico.ca> <04e001c0b986$dc22d380$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC5411D.3E61E482@sympatico.ca> <051301c0b98b$f4c02640$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC543E7.85D0B3F7@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <053e01c0b98e$eb322300$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Actually, no, I don't. Perhaps someone else on the list will be able to tell us (or me, since obviously you already know....Grins!) I've been racking my brain for all the shows that I watched when Nickelodeon was new, Blue's Clues and Rugrats just whisps of smoke in their artists' brains, but I'm coming up blank! Argh! ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) It's all good Dee, but do you remember the other thing you said that got something dumped on you? Hmmmm...? Denise R wrote: I thought I was right. Thanks for having the courage to prove to me I was, J! ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) Dare I say it? Dare I?...I do dare.....THAT phrase was... I don't know.... Go ahead, slime me, I'll be ready *grin* J Denise R wrote: By the way, what was THAT phrase again? Grins... (seriously I can't remember!) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamieson To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) Hey, I was on YCDTOT years ago, when I was about thirteen, for one show. I played Mooses cousin. And trust me, you DON'T want to get slimed! It's gross stuff; made from oatmeal, cornstarch, water, corn syrup, the ectoplasm stuff you could buy as kids, LOTS of green foodcolouring and green dye...it was nasty...they had another complete outfit just like the one I was wearing cus you couldn't clean it out of the clothes. It was all good, though, I had a great time doing it. I got slimed three times in the show. You know it's coming, you know it's going to happen, but your still not prepared for it. It's damn cold, and heaven help you if it gets in your mouth, cus it tastes awful! Oh well, it was fun, fun, fun! Nuff said...Jamieson John Walton wrote: on 3/30/01 5:30 PM, nlpnt at yahoo.com at nlpnt at yahoo.com wrote: > My girlfriend used to call my car "Alf" because the letters on the > license plate are (you guessed it) ALF. Kind of backfired since I've > had the same number on five cars now! > My computer is called "Moose" after the girl host from "You Can't Do > That On Television", because it and I have an agreeiment- I *will* > dump a bucket of green slime on it if it ever bluescreens (fingers > crossed). ::jumps for joy:: You Can't Do That On Television! The staple of my preteenage years! Oh, those Nickelodeon days, where Double Dare was followed by Wild And Crazy Kids, sometime after YCDTOTV... ::happy memories:: --John, remembering just how much he wanted to get slimed To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 03:01:04 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:01:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!) References: Message-ID: <3AC5486F.FF19E236@sympatico.ca> Jen Faulkner wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Jamieson wrote: > > > It's all good Dee, but do you remember the other thing you said that > got > > something dumped on you? Hmmmm...? > > I do! I do! Water! *grins and ducks* > Water falls, but narrowly misses Jen.... > > Ah, YCDTOT -- I loved that show... in fact, as far as I was > concerned, > the coolest thing about Alanis Morisette was that she'd been on it. > I used to live down the street from her as a kid. Ugh what a......not nice person... > > I also liked the show about Belle, the Pyranees Mtn. dog, a lot... and > > the one about El Dorado... Double Dare, OTOH, I *hated* -- Mark > what's-his-name... Not Mark-Paul Gosselar (sp?)... he was on Saved > by > the Bell, which I also really hated... > I can't remember his name either, but I loved the episode where Moose gets all the purfumes and deoderents...back of the knee dodorent, in between the toe deodorent, etc, etc... > > And that's so totally cool that you were on the show, Jamieson! I'm > *so* jealous now... > I actually was in Montreal at a Cafe with one of my buddies, and this person comes up to me and says "How would you like to be on TV?" Me being a Leo/Virgo, with a Taurus moon sign, I automatically said "Yeah, Okay." It was really cool! > > --jen, suffering from performance envy :) > Too cute, Jen, but don't suffer from performance envy! For, you too can be a star! (perhaps in your own head, but the intention is there...) Hugs, Jamieson (AKA, J-Man, the Wonder Boy) -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 31 04:01:16 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:01:16 -0000 Subject: UK Editions Message-ID: <9a3kqc+fl17@eGroups.com> Hello all-- I'm attempting to purchase the UK editions once again, and I'm wondering if someone can answer this for me: what's the difference between cloth cover and hardback? Thanks... Kelley From john at walton.to Sat Mar 31 04:15:31 2001 From: john at walton.to (John Walton) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:15:31 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UK Editions In-Reply-To: <9a3kqc+fl17@eGroups.com> Message-ID: on 30/3/01 11:01 pm, Kelley at SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com wrote: > Hello all-- > > I'm attempting to purchase the UK editions once again, and I'm > wondering if someone can answer this for me: what's the difference > between cloth cover and hardback? IIRC, "hardback" is thick card, covered with paper, although nice to the touch, sometimes textured. "Cloth cover", methinks, is card that's a little bit thicker than normal hardback, and with cloth covering it instead of paper. My copy of the Complete Shakespeare is cloth-covered, and it's a joy to read. Hope this helps, --John From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 31 04:48:59 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:48:59 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9a3njr+thht@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > IIRC, "hardback" is thick card, covered with paper, although nice to the > touch, sometimes textured. "Cloth cover", methinks, is card that's a little > bit thicker than normal hardback, and with cloth covering it instead of > paper. My copy of the Complete Shakespeare is cloth-covered, and it's a joy > to read. > > Hope this helps, > > --John That does help me, thank you John. Do you know anything about the box set being available with 'special editions'? The regular box set sells for 48 pounds, and the 'special edition' goes for 85 pounds. When I search for "Harry Potter" at BookBrain, box sets come up as the second and third items, both described as 'cloth' bound. (The first is the less expensive, the second the more expensive.) When I click on either one, then go to the sites that come up, the description is then Hardback. I'm quite confused. And, from your description, I know I would like cloth bound better as well. The best price I've found with shipping to the states included, is at History Bookshop. Suppose I'll email them about the cloth vs. hardcover question... Thanks again for your reply, John. Kelley From wr7238 at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 31 04:50:57 2001 From: wr7238 at worldnet.att.net (Roy Mallett Jr) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:50:57 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper Message-ID: <018b01c0b99e$30b03700$3bc64e0c@b3i4w5> Hello Group,Just wanted to add that my husband Roy and I have been married for 17 years going on 18 this July! We both love to read and watch Fantasy and Sci-Fi stuff! Our boys get it from us. Roy respects living and non-living objects He hasn't read HP but has been listening to the boys and I reading out loud for reading time every night. He asks alot of questions if he misses out on a point of interest that comes up somewhere else in the book. Right now we are on chapter 31 and getting into the hair raising part of the book! Just wanted to add to this. Hope everyone has a great weekend! >From Wanda The Witch of Revere, Massachusetts,USA -----Original Message----- From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Husband's Obsession, when I became a shipper >--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Amanda Lewanski wrote: >> catherine at c... wrote: >> >> > I have given up on my Husband. He hates fantasy, hates sci fi, >hates >> > Buffy. Will not read HP. Again, when he has time to read, which >> > isn't often, he prefers John le Carre and others of that ilk. I >> > managed to get him to read Captain Corelli, but that was after >months >> > of persuasion and he didn't cry and become emotionally involved >as I >> > did. Why did I marry him ? >> >> Because men are good for other things than reading with...... >> >> Like washing the dishes or watching the kids while *you* read. >> >> --Amanda, clearly married for more than ten years > >Different perspectives - I've been married less than a year! (But >it's nice to share isn't it?) >Catherine > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu Sat Mar 31 05:45:47 2001 From: jamesf at alumni.caltech.edu (Jim Flanagan) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:45:47 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <9a3kqc+fl17@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a3qub+43le@eGroups.com> The cloth covered editions are also known as "deluxe" and have gold edges and a sewn-in cloth bookmark. Look on ebay and you will find many cover scans from the various editions. -Jim --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Kelley" wrote: > Hello all-- > > I'm attempting to purchase the UK editions once again, and I'm > wondering if someone can answer this for me: what's the difference > between cloth cover and hardback? > > Thanks... > > Kelley From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 31 06:19:53 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:19:53 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] If I named myself after a car... References: <9a2n0f+bvjj@eGroups.com> <000501c0b955$446c97a0$5114a3d1@doreen> <007401c0b966$011db220$203670c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <002d01c0b9aa$9b2efa60$5214a3d1@doreen> **** Y'know, I hate it when people give their cars human names, like 'Clive' or 'Mandy'. It would be a far happier world if all people took the names of cars instead. Flying Ford Anglia **** If I were to name myself after a car, I would be a baby blue 57 Chevy ... and when you honked my horn, it would play, "Thanks for the Memories..." :)) Doreen **** From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 31 06:32:11 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:32:11 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <9a3qub+43le@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a3tlb+sls9@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Jim Flanagan" wrote: > The cloth covered editions are also known as "deluxe" and have gold > edges and a sewn-in cloth bookmark. Look on ebay and you will find > many cover scans from the various editions. > > -Jim They sound fantastic. I will go look for them. They're probably pretty pricey, I'll bet. Are they still currently being sold, or is ebay my best bet? Kelley From catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 31 07:15:27 2001 From: catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk (catherine at cator-manor.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:15:27 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <9a3njr+thht@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a406f+ejo5@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Kelley" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., John Walton wrote: > > IIRC, "hardback" is thick card, covered with paper, although nice > to the > > touch, sometimes textured. "Cloth cover", methinks, is card that's > a little > > bit thicker than normal hardback, and with cloth covering it > instead of > > paper. My copy of the Complete Shakespeare is cloth-covered, and > it's a joy > > to read. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > --John > > That does help me, thank you John. Do you know anything about the > box set being available with 'special editions'? The regular box set > sells for 48 pounds, and the 'special edition' goes for 85 pounds. > When I search for "Harry Potter" at BookBrain, box sets come up as > the second and third items, both described as 'cloth' bound. (The > first is the less expensive, the second the more expensive.) When I > click on either one, then go to the sites that come up, the > description is then Hardback. I'm quite confused. And, from your > description, I know I would like cloth bound better as well. The > best price I've found with shipping to the states included, is at > History Bookshop. Suppose I'll email them about the cloth vs. > hardcover question... > > Thanks again for your reply, John. > > Kelley The cloth bound editions are more expensive as they are marketed as "deluxe". I have a full set and they are beautiful books, with ribbon markers etc. (Only problem being they are all first prints and I don't dare read them, they look great on the shelf though). They don't have a dustdustjacket. The hardbacks are just your regular hardback, with dustjackets. Have you tried going to Amazon.co.uk, instead of .com? The descriptions are better. Catherine From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 31 08:06:39 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:06:39 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <9a406f+ejo5@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a436f+a7k6@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., catherine at c... wrote: > The cloth bound editions are more expensive as they are marketed > as "deluxe". I have a full set and they are beautiful books, with > ribbon markers etc. (Only problem being they are all first prints > and I don't dare read them, they look great on the shelf though). > They don't have a dustdustjacket. The hardbacks are just your > regular hardback, with dustjackets. Have you tried going to > Amazon.co.uk, instead of .com? The descriptions are better. > Catherine Oh, I ~am~ jealous, Catherine. I'd love to have that set. That's a really good idea, to go to Amazon UK. I've been using BookBrain to find the best prices, and so far Amaz hasn't popped up. ;o) I'll go over now and make sure to copy down those ISBN numbers. Thanks! Kelley From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 31 08:53:43 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:53:43 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Belle & Sebastian/ Off-topic things in other fandoms References: Message-ID: <00d901c0b9c0$59154740$593570c2@c5s910j> Jen said: > I also liked the show about Belle, the Pyranees Mtn. dog, a lot... and > the one about El Dorado... Double Dare, OTOH, I *hated* -- Mark > what's-his-name... Not Mark-Paul Gosselar (sp?)... he was on Saved by > the Bell, which I also really hated... I don't know this American show you're all talking about, but I do remember "Belle & Sebastian". There's now a cool indie band over here called Belle & Sebastian - they were always on the playlist at the club I used to crew (they aren't always the most danceable band, but it's fun watching people try - a bit like firing off a mild shot of the Cruciatus Curse). I once attended a B&S tribute night in honour of the release one of their albums and their last album was called "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant" - that's always puzzled me; I'm sure they didn't just make that title up, so maybe somone can throw some light on it? Now, try to work out how long it took us to get from John's Cube to obscure album titles. PS - "Saved By The Bell" is double-plus PANTS! OFF-TOPICALITY I am also on a Diana Wynne-Jones list and for about three months virtually everyone on it seemed to be lurking. Then, suddenly, the posting rate escalated to around 80 a day. I decided to check my autofiled messages and found a huge thread called "tea" and then "chocolate (was tea)" and then "chocolate". After that, up popped "peanut butter" and "pickles", then "A sinister topic" (about being left-handed). Then there was the obligatory thread about how OT the list had become. Then someone posted a message entitled: "Off-topic: the social context of anoraks," which needed explaining to the non-Brits on the list. Anorak is, as one DWJ list member described it, "(British) slang for fannish or obsessive behaviour and it derives from the clich that trainspotters (people who collect train numbers as a hobby) all wore anoraks and bobble hats, and carried tartan patterned thermos flasks." Food and clothes, the twin peaks of OT-city Neil, whose turquoise bodywork morphs into an turquoise anorak with hood (naturally) and toggles. On the breast pocket is a silver button that says "press here for invisibility". Very handy, that. ________________________________________ Flying Ford Anglia "Krum, his red robes shining with blood from his nose, was rising gently into the air, his fist held high, a glint of gold in his hand." ["The Quidditch World Cup", GoF] Check out Very Frequently Asked Questions for everything to do with this club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/VFAQ.htm From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 31 09:17:26 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:17:26 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] UK Editions References: <9a3kqc+fl17@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <014801c0b9c3$680b34a0$593570c2@c5s910j> Kelley said: > I'm attempting to purchase the UK editions once again, and I'm > wondering if someone can answer this for me: what's the difference > between cloth cover and hardback? Hi Kelley, I know people have already answered you in various degrees, but I recently bought the boxed Deluxe set (the cloth bound books) and I already have the hardbacks. I sent this description of the Deluxe set to Doreen the other day, when she asked about it: "They are cloth-bound with gold edged paper and a coloured ribbon page marker. On the front page of each is an inset picture that is the same as the picture on the regular editions (with JKR's signature underneath) and on the spine is the title, tooled in gold lettering. PS is red cloth, CoS is blue, PoA is green and GoF is purple. The box they are in is red, cloth-bound card." The box also features a gold outlined sketch of the Hogwarts Express on the sides and the names of the four books on the back. The regular hardbacks have dust covers, as John said, but the books inside feature the same designs on the covers as on the dust covers (rather than being plain-coloured and made to look like textured leather as the US ones are). I agree with Doreen that the US hardbacks are rather more attractive to the look and feel (but others seem to disagree). The US dust covers have a slightly more textured, almost recycled feel, whereas the UK dust covers have a smoother, eggshell finish. My main reason for posting is to let you know that I got my Deluxe set (called "The Gift Set") from WHSmiths Online, for 68, as they are having a sale on HP items. It looks like they've dropped the saving from 20% to 10%, but they are still having a sale... and you might find some other bargains (PS paperback is 50% off, for example). They deliver to the US. http://www.whsmith.co.uk/WHS/Go.asp?isbn=074755367X&DB=220 Neil FFA From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 31 13:23:27 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:23:27 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Belle & Sebastian References: <00d901c0b9c0$59154740$593570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <002b01c0b9e5$c6b25840$0514a3d1@doreen> Jen said: > I also liked the show about Belle, the Pyranees Mtn. dog, a lot... and > the one about El Dorado... Double Dare, OTOH, I *hated* -- Mark > what's-his-name... Not Mark-Paul Gosselar (sp?)... he was on Saved by > the Bell, which I also really hated... *************** Mark Summers ... the epitome of annoying!!! Doreen *************** From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 14:10:12 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:10:12 -0000 Subject: Belle & Sebastian In-Reply-To: <002b01c0b9e5$c6b25840$0514a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9a4og4+79d9@eGroups.com> Belle and Sebastian was a French television show about a boy and his Pyranees mountain dog, Belle. It was dubbed and ran on Nick (in the USA) when I was a kid. Oh, and the band Neil's talking about was named after it. Does anyone remember Today's Special? Where the mannequin comes to life? Hocus pocus allamagocious! Here's a website about Classic Nick shows: http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/classicnick/ Heather M., now nostalgic. From heidit at netbox.com Sat Mar 31 14:10:16 2001 From: heidit at netbox.com (heidi) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:10:16 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Nickelodeon (was You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!)) References: <04cd01c0b986$8394d7e0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <3AC5E548.77D3FE92@alumni.upenn.edu> Denise R wrote: > I used to slide the slider to the one side, and settle in front of the > > television (after Luke and Laura, urgh. Mom watched that) to watch my > two > favorites, You Can't and Tomorrow People. (Had a crush on one of > them, but > for the life of me can't recall the name. Not the oldest boy, the > second > oldest. I did like Mike, though. Stephen Jamison. ALthough I always thought mike was much cuter - when I first got on the net back in the olden days of Lynx, in 1993/4, the first mailing lists I got onto were Tomorrow People and Crowded House - until I found that site, I thought I was the only person in the US who still watched the show. It was my introduction to british tv and british books. I also posted in the alt.tv.nickelodeon newsgroup, and I remember for a time Kevin Kubecheski (did I spell that right) was posting there while at film school in canada somewhere. It was pretty cool. There are a few websites like http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/classicnick/ and http://www.geocities.com/mystiemei/pinwheel.html (which I like more because it's got the earlier stuff on it) - the stuff I loved like the game show where you got to play video games, the 3rd eye, the bext years of YCDTOT and of course, livewire and those 30 minute segments about children who were phtographers or dancers or ice skaters - that kind of thing. And how many times did I watch the Raggedy Ann & Andy movie with the Camel with the Wrinkley Knees? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 14:42:01 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:42:01 -0500 Subject: The Pinwheel Network. References: <04cd01c0b986$8394d7e0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC5E548.77D3FE92@alumni.upenn.edu> Message-ID: <074901c0b9f0$c02c6b40$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> My goodness! Was there a show on Nick called Pinwheel, as well? I can still hear the tune in my head! There was also a show with folks in hats. :) I adored Eureeka's Castle, but of course, that was a bit later! Thanks Heidi for the sites! :) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: heidi To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Nickelodeon (was You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!)) Denise R wrote: I used to slide the slider to the one side, and settle in front of the television (after Luke and Laura, urgh. Mom watched that) to watch my two favorites, You Can't and Tomorrow People. (Had a crush on one of them, but for the life of me can't recall the name. Not the oldest boy, the second oldest. I did like Mike, though. Stephen Jamison. ALthough I always thought mike was much cuter - when I first got on the net back in the olden days of Lynx, in 1993/4, the first mailing lists I got onto were Tomorrow People and Crowded House - until I found that site, I thought I was the only person in the US who still watched the show. It was my introduction to british tv and british books. I also posted in the alt.tv.nickelodeon newsgroup, and I remember for a time Kevin Kubecheski (did I spell that right) was posting there while at film school in canada somewhere. It was pretty cool. There are a few websites like http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/classicnick/ and http://www.geocities.com/mystiemei/pinwheel.html (which I like more because it's got the earlier stuff on it) - the stuff I loved like the game show where you got to play video games, the 3rd eye, the bext years of YCDTOT and of course, livewire and those 30 minute segments about children who were phtographers or dancers or ice skaters - that kind of thing. And how many times did I watch the Raggedy Ann & Andy movie with the Camel with the Wrinkley Knees? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Mar 31 16:11:54 2001 From: jaffa276 at yahoo.co.uk (Benjamin) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:11:54 -0000 Subject: If I named myself after a car... In-Reply-To: <002d01c0b9aa$9b2efa60$5214a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9a4vka+3i8s@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > **** > Y'know, I hate it when people give their cars human names, like 'Clive' or 'Mandy'. It would be a far happier world if all people took the names of > cars instead. > > Flying Ford Anglia > **** I'd be a Vauxhall Senator. Large, comfortable, great handling, superb control... and obsolete, but not old enough to be a classic. -Ben, Drives off into the setting sun. From editor at texas.net Sat Mar 31 16:20:48 2001 From: editor at texas.net (Amanda Lewanski) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:20:48 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects References: <9a349g+vbvb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC603DE.D0C18262@texas.net> hamster8 at hotmail.com wrote: > So, listees, if *you* could be a car, what car would it be? > Neil is exempt from this entertaining new thread, because we already > know what kind of car he is :-) Well, despite my desire to shout "Jaguar V-12!" or "Mazda Miata!" I will go with what I have known for years, that I am a dependable, large, damn-near-indestructible, old car with lovely lines--a 1965 Chevrolet Impala, painted true purple. --Purple Bomb, in honor of the car Amanda learned to drive in and still misses -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 16:23:04 2001 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (Denise R) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:23:04 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects References: <9a349g+vbvb@eGroups.com> <3AC603DE.D0C18262@texas.net> Message-ID: <090701c0b9fe$dd621bc0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Amanda, I think we're more alike than I knew. Grins. My whole family knows that there are two cars on my want-list. A Miata arrived on the cover the Auto mag my dad used to get, and my mom looked at that and asked, what is it? I fell in love. That was back when it FIRST was revealed, before you could buy it unless you went to Japan/etc... I loved the way it went "oooh". (Headlights are eyes, and the mouth... well, you get the idea.) The Jag I like because it's a calm, dignified car. No, I do not know how to drive stick. I also can't afford either car! A four-door, due to the car seat in the back! Grins... and shall I assume your favorite color is also like mine--purple? Chuckles. ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** >From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lewanski To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: naming computers & inanimate objects hamster8 at hotmail.com wrote: So, listees, if *you* could be a car, what car would it be? Neil is exempt from this entertaining new thread, because we already know what kind of car he is :-) Well, despite my desire to shout "Jaguar V-12!" or "Mazda Miata!" I will go with what I have known for years, that I am a dependable, large, damn-near-indestructible, old car with lovely lines--a 1965 Chevrolet Impala, painted true purple. --Purple Bomb, in honor of the car Amanda learned to drive in and still misses Yahoo! 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URL: From starling823 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 16:43:27 2001 From: starling823 at yahoo.com (Starling) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:43:27 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Pinwheel Network. References: <04cd01c0b986$8394d7e0$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> <3AC5E548.77D3FE92@alumni.upenn.edu> <074901c0b9f0$c02c6b40$10ccfea9@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <005301c0ba01$b6761720$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> Yeah! Pinwheel! I used to watch that all the time! I'm just a tad too young for YCDTOT, but I remember watching Pinwheel before I'd leave for kindergarden. Children's television is a wonderful thing -- Blue's Clues is about all my brain can handle after a day of classes. I can hear the Pinwheel theme song in my head too, but I can't remember the words. Anyone? Abbie starling823 at yahoo.com 69% obsessed with HP and loving it "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise R To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 31 March, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Pinwheel Network. My goodness! Was there a show on Nick called Pinwheel, as well? I can still hear the tune in my head! There was also a show with folks in hats. :) I adored Eureeka's Castle, but of course, that was a bit later! Thanks Heidi for the sites! :) ~Dee~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get ICQ'd! 21282374 ************************** From there to here, from here to there, funny things are everywhere Dr. Seuss ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: heidi To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Nickelodeon (was You Can't Do That On Television (was: Re: Help John name his new computer!)) Denise R wrote: I used to slide the slider to the one side, and settle in front of the television (after Luke and Laura, urgh. Mom watched that) to watch my two favorites, You Can't and Tomorrow People. (Had a crush on one of them, but for the life of me can't recall the name. Not the oldest boy, the second oldest. I did like Mike, though. Stephen Jamison. ALthough I always thought mike was much cuter - when I first got on the net back in the olden days of Lynx, in 1993/4, the first mailing lists I got onto were Tomorrow People and Crowded House - until I found that site, I thought I was the only person in the US who still watched the show. It was my introduction to british tv and british books. I also posted in the alt.tv.nickelodeon newsgroup, and I remember for a time Kevin Kubecheski (did I spell that right) was posting there while at film school in canada somewhere. It was pretty cool. There are a few websites like http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/classicnick/ and http://www.geocities.com/mystiemei/pinwheel.html (which I like more because it's got the earlier stuff on it) - the stuff I loved like the game show where you got to play video games, the 3rd eye, the bext years of YCDTOT and of course, livewire and those 30 minute segments about children who were phtographers or dancers or ice skaters - that kind of thing. And how many times did I watch the Raggedy Ann & Andy movie with the Camel with the Wrinkley Knees? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 31 16:56:39 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:56:39 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Anagarms References: <9a397q+cvb9@eGroups.com> <003a01c0ba01$6925ea40$5e14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <006201c0ba03$907db6c0$5e14a3d1@doreen> DUMBLEDORE BLEED O DRUM MUD OR BLEED MUD ORE BLED MORE BLUDDE ******************* Doreen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 16:56:51 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:56:51 -0000 Subject: The Pinwheel Network. In-Reply-To: <005301c0ba01$b6761720$c574e280@cc.binghamton.edu> Message-ID: <9a528j+kegb@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Starling" wrote: > Yeah! Pinwheel! I used to watch that all the time! > I'm just a tad too young for YCDTOT, but I remember watching Pinwheel before I'd leave for kindergarden. > Children's television is a wonderful thing -- Blue's Clues is about all my brain can handle after a day of classes. > I can hear the Pinwheel theme song in my head too, but I can't remember the words. Anyone? > > Abbie > starling823 at y... > 69% obsessed with HP and loving it > "Ah, music," Dumbledore said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!" > -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone Pinwheel, pinwheel, spinning around. Look at my Pinwheel and see what I've found. Pinwheel, pinwheel, where have you been? Hello, how are you, and may I come in? Pinwheel, pinwheel spinning around. Look at my Pinwheel and see what I found. Pinwheel, pinwheel, breezy and bright. Spin me good morning, spin me good night. Heather M. From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 17:06:50 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:06:50 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Belle & Sebastian References: <9a4og4+79d9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC60EA9.82D5013@sympatico.ca> Hocus, Pocus, alla ma-go-cus!! Jodi, Muffy the Mouse who talked in rhyme, Sam Crenshaw, his computer TX...I used to love that show. When I went to see Phantom of the Opera in 1992, Jeff Hyslop (the guy who played the maniquin) was playing the phantom. He was pretty good. But I used to watch that show every single time it was on....perhaps it was why I wanted to get into acting...I think I had a crush on Jeff, but I was too young to remember properly now.. ah, the youngin' days.... Jamieson aichambaye at yahoo.com wrote: > Belle and Sebastian was a French television show about a boy and his > Pyranees mountain dog, Belle. It was dubbed and ran on Nick (in the > USA) when I was a kid. Oh, and the band Neil's talking about was > named after it. > > Does anyone remember Today's Special? Where the mannequin comes to > life? Hocus pocus allamagocious! > > Here's a website about Classic Nick shows: > http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/classicnick/ > > Heather M., now nostalgic. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailS1.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailE1.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From crowswolf at sympatico.ca Sat Mar 31 17:13:20 2001 From: crowswolf at sympatico.ca (Jamieson) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:13:20 -0500 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Pinwheel Network. References: <9a528j+kegb@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <3AC6102F.19514C5@sympatico.ca> > Oh my god! I didn't think I remembered that show, but now that I have the words in front of me I can remember singing along with it, bobbing my head like the child I was...*shudder*... Someone mentioned about Eureekas Castle...does anyone know the main girls name? I think she was a fairy of some sort, she used magic, was her name Eureeka? I'm not sure... Jamieson (who broke his word about not becoming obsessed with anything...until Harry Potter came along, and now he's just a lost cause...) > Pinwheel, pinwheel, spinning around. Look at my Pinwheel and see what > I've found. > > Pinwheel, pinwheel, where have you been? Hello, how are you, and may > I come in? > > Pinwheel, pinwheel spinning around. Look at my Pinwheel and see what > I found. > > Pinwheel, pinwheel, breezy and bright. Spin me good morning, spin me > good night. > > Heather M. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HPFGU-OTChatter-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- "....dream harder, dream true..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmailAS.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. -------------- next part -------------- The original email contained an attachment named "C:WINDOWSTEMPnsmail68.gif" but we could not retrieve it via the Yahoo Groups API. From SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com Sat Mar 31 17:43:58 2001 From: SKTHOMPSON_1 at msn.com (Kelley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:43:58 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <014801c0b9c3$680b34a0$593570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <9a550u+7p86@eGroups.com> > Neil wrote: > I know people have already answered you in various degrees, but I recently bought the boxed Deluxe set (the cloth bound books) and I already have the hardbacks. > > > The regular hardbacks have dust covers, as John said, but the books inside feature the same designs on the covers as on the dust covers (rather than being plain-coloured and made to look like textured leather as the US ones are). I agree with Doreen that the US hardbacks are rather more attractive to the look and feel (but others seem to disagree). The US dust covers have a slightly more textured, almost recycled feel, whereas the UK dust covers have a smoother, eggshell finish. <<<<<<<<<<<<<< I did see pics of each spec. ed. at Amaz. UK, and to me they're far preferable to the Amer. spec. edition. (I've only seen the US spec. edition of SS, not CoS or PoA yet, so don't even know if they're available here yet or not.) I have the US harcovers of each, and the only one of mine that has that nice, textured feel is GoF. Hmm. Have you ever heard of purchasing the dust jackets alone? I was thinking this the other day, as mine are getting quite worn on the edges. The books themselves are fine, so I'd really like to get a new set of dust jackets, purely for appearances. > Neil: > My main reason for posting is to let you know that I got my Deluxe set (called "The Gift Set") from WHSmiths Online, for ?68, as they are having a sale on HP items. It looks like they've dropped the saving from 20% to 10%, but they are still having a sale... and you might find some other bargains (PS paperback is 50% off, for example). They deliver to the US. > > http://www.whsmith.co.uk/WHS/Go.asp?isbn=074755367X&DB=220 I did a bit of searching around last night, and the best price I found for the deluxe set, including S&H to the US, was at Swotbooks. (You don't -have- to be a student to purchase from them, do you?) The total price came out to 66.15 pounds, $93.69 US. I'm now going back and forth with my conscience and bank account on purchasing them. Which brings to mind another question: I've not ever purchased a series of books in deluxe editions before, so I'm wondering whether it might not be better to wait and purchase the entire set after #7 is available? I'm thinking cost-wise. Does anyone have any experience with this? If I do end up waiting to get the entire set later, I do want at least all the UK paperbacks for now. Thank you so much for all the helpful info, Neil. Kelley--as an aside to all the Yanks with BBCA: Red Dwarf returns Friday, April 6! Homer Simpson voice: Woohoo!!! From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 31 18:46:31 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:46:31 -0000 Subject: Inquiry on Fanfic Draco Message-ID: <9a58m7+1rnd@eGroups.com> Could anyone direct me to site or post where I get an overview of the parameters of Fan-Fic Draco (the one who hamkers for Ginny, wears black leather, and may have a thing or two going on the side with Crabbe and Goyle). I know this has been covered extensively on HP4GU, but it would a time-saver if anyone could point me to a post which covers that. (My purpoeses are of a filk-related nature) Thanks, - CMC From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 31 18:52:52 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:52:52 -0000 Subject: Anagarms, was Not a Tom Swiftie... In-Reply-To: <9a397q+cvb9@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a5924+3bj0@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., inyron at y... wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > Albus Dumbledore 1. or as due dumbbell 2. bad mule doublers 3. or be bums alluded \ 4. user bomb alluded 5. us be odd umbrella 6. maul beds boulder 7. us adore dumbbell 8. duel dual bombers 9. us muddle belabor 10. or bum bed alludes 11. dumb bell aroused 12. dumb bore alludes 13. rude bomb alludes - CMC From coriolan at worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 31 19:03:21 2001 From: coriolan at worldnet.att.net (Caius Marcius) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:03:21 -0000 Subject: Anagarms, was Not a Tom Swiftie... In-Reply-To: <9a5924+3bj0@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a59lp+ku5f@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., inyron at y... wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., tanwo at h... wrote: > > severus Snape: us pave sneers sap uses nerve use nap severs sue nap severs sun ape severs puns as severe spun as severe us pens averse as pure sevens sea pun serves rave up senses see puns saver pass revenues From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 31 19:16:19 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:16:19 -0800 Subject: reply to WashPostarticle posted by Heidi in Announcements... Message-ID: <3AC62D02.A0010771@wicca.net> Heidi Tandy posted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62378-2001Mar26.html > This is the first time I've seen actual quotes from Scholastic's > General Counsel on the matter, and the article is the most balanced > I've read in recent weeks. The article is Very Interesting, but there is one thing I hope someone can clear my confusion about. Not just Stouffer, but this article indicates that Scholastic sued Stouffer first: "To shut Stouffer up, Rowling and her corporate protectors ... have filed suit against her in New York. It's a pre-emptive strike...." I THOUGHT STOUFFER SUED ROWLING FIRST???? Btw, Heidi, where is the Blue Peter interview? It isn't at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/BluePeter.doc -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From cassandraclaire at mail.com Sat Mar 31 19:25:28 2001 From: cassandraclaire at mail.com (cassandraclaire at mail.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:25:28 -0000 Subject: Inquiry on Fanfic Draco In-Reply-To: <9a58m7+1rnd@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a5av8+t8dl@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Caius Marcius" wrote: > Could anyone direct me to site or post where I get an overview of the > parameters of Fan-Fic Draco (the one who hankers for Ginny, wears > black leather, and may have a thing or two going on the side with > Crabbe and Goyle). I know this has been covered extensively on HP4GU, > but it would a time-saver if anyone could point me to a post which > covers that. > > (My purpoeses are of a filk-related nature) > > Thanks, > > - CMC *eyes pop out* I'd like to see that, too. *eeeeks for Heidi* I didn't know fanfic Draco had parameters - do you just mean a list of common attributes he's usually tagged with in fanfic? Cos I could probably come up with a list. Cassie From Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 19:36:44 2001 From: Aberforths_Goat at Yahoo.com (Aberforth's Goat) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:36:44 +0200 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Book burning References: Message-ID: <01d101c0ba19$eaf41f70$2271023e@shasta> Howdy Jen! I was just catching up on three days worth of chatter when I realized that you'd written a great post a day before I spouted off in the main group about the same topic. You wrote, > I'd just like to start by saying that, as a scholar, particularly as a > classicist who studies a period (Greco-Roman antiquity) from which a > huge portion of the written works have been lost to us through the > vagaries of time and humans, book burning is repugnant to me. Hmmm. Now that's an interesting thought. Granted the astronomical investment that Christian scholarship has made in textual criticism, you'd think we Christians would be the most pyrophobic bunch going ... > Book burning deserves protection too. > [....] Book burning is the most extreme form of > disagreement with (the ideas contained in) a book, but such disagreement > is essentially speech, and no less than the authors of the book they're > burning, their speech *must* have protection to promote the free > exchange of ideas, upon which is predicated a society of equality. Bang on. Like rockers trashing stage sets or rap groups spewing obscenities--I'd be proud to fight for their right to express ideas I find reprehensible in language I find repugnant. (Unless they are instigating violence.) And given the right situation, I think book burning may be a fine and valiant form of speech--although using such an inherently violent vocabulary seems dangerous, even under the best of circumstances. Baaaaaa! Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray, who wonders whether any HP fans have considered burning copies of Stouffer's legal briefs.) _______________________ "My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No he did not! He held his head high." From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 21:07:46 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:07:46 -0000 Subject: reply to WashPostarticle posted by Heidi in Announcements... In-Reply-To: <3AC62D02.A0010771@wicca.net> Message-ID: <9a5gv2+ntrk@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., Catlady wrote: > Btw, Heidi, where is the Blue Peter interview? It isn't at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/BluePeter.doc Try - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/files/BluePeter.htm Love that moggie BTW! Wotan. From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 31 21:12:07 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:12:07 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: UK Editions References: <9a550u+7p86@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <005b01c0ba27$40a01de0$8e14a3d1@doreen> I agree with Doreen that the US hardbacks are rather more attractive to the look and feel (but others seem to disagree). The US dust covers have a slightly more textured, almost recycled feel, whereas the UK dust covers have a smoother, eggshell finish. Neil ************************ Sorry you misunderstood. I did not say they had a better "feel." The US hardcovers have beautiful dust covers, with their metallic lettering and colorful illustrations ... but the book covers, themselves are very plain, not illustrated. I may never have paid any attention to them if I had not purchased the UK editions and compared them. While I do not care for the colors used on the UK editions, and was a bit disappointed in the size, I love the fact that the books inside do match the dust covers exactly. But, I did not buy the UK editions mainly for the looks of them ... I wanted to be able to experience the book in the exact words in which it was written by JKR... with all the lovely British terms and spelling. Another thing which I noticed was the lack of an index page... or chapter numbers at the tops of the pages. Is this a common British practice? US - left side Chapter Fourteen right side - Snape's Grudge UK - left side Harry Potter right side - Snape's Grudge Also, the only two books that I own in paperback are SS and CoS. Are these the only two that are available? Mine are SOOO trashed ... They are the only ones I use for reference ... trying to keep my hardcovers in nice shape... For GoF, I have a copy which my dog was trying to read one night ... but he never got past chewing the corners ... he must have thought it was the digest editon. Doreen ************* From neilward at dircon.co.uk Sat Mar 31 21:32:30 2001 From: neilward at dircon.co.uk (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:32:30 +0100 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: UK Editions References: <9a550u+7p86@eGroups.com> <005b01c0ba27$40a01de0$8e14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <003c01c0ba2a$198f7a40$973570c2@c5s910j> I said: > I agree with Doreen that the US > hardbacks are rather more attractive to the look and feel (but others > seem to disagree). The US dust covers have a slightly more textured, > almost recycled feel, whereas the UK dust covers have a smoother, > eggshell finish. Doreen then said: <> I was just paraphrasing and probably thinking about the overall look of the books with the covers on (i.e. not using 'feel' in the literal sense, if that makes sense...). Usually, I don't like dust jackets at all, so on my regular UK copy of GoF I've taken it off and put it away somewhere. However, when I saw those hardback US editions in New York, I really liked the dust jackets and would want to keep them on the books. The metallic lettering and that jagged font is very much nicer than the boring old fonts Bloomsbury have used and the colour choices are much more harmonious. Interestingly, some of the UK tapes and CDs have the British pictures with the US lettering stuck over the top - and, in general the covers of the audio versions look a dreadful mess. I do like the monochrome 'adult' covers of the UK versions (not that I own any of them). I think they are more stylish than the regular covers and I wish they'd do those in hardback. I've only seen them in paperback and audio formats. Neil FFA From tanwo at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 21:35:11 2001 From: tanwo at hotmail.com (tanwo at hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:35:11 -0000 Subject: UK Editions In-Reply-To: <005b01c0ba27$40a01de0$8e14a3d1@doreen> Message-ID: <9a5iif+g458@eGroups.com> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Doreen" wrote: > > or chapter > numbers at the tops of the pages. Is this a common British practice? > > US - left side Chapter Fourteen right side - Snape's Grudge > UK - left side Harry Potter right side - Snape's Grudge > A quick flick through a dozen or so UK books confirms your observation. When there was anything in the LHS header, it was the book title. > Also, the only two books that I own in paperback are SS and CoS. > Are these the only two that are available PoA is available in paperback. > For GoF, I have a copy which my dog was trying to read one night ... but he > never got past chewing the corners ... he must have thought it was the > digest editon. What colour is he? Might have been a disgruntled and hungry Sirius ... Wotan (who is feeling inferior because he only has one copy of each book [and hasn't yet read QTA]) From aichambaye at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 22:06:42 2001 From: aichambaye at yahoo.com (aichambaye at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:06:42 -0000 Subject: PoA in paperback In-Reply-To: <9a5iif+g458@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a5kdi+2n6u@eGroups.com> > > Also, the only two books that I own in paperback are SS and CoS. > > Are these the only two that are available > > PoA is available in paperback. > PoA is only available as yet in UK paperbacks. So if you mean you only have US paperbacks, then that is correct. From catlady at wicca.net Sat Mar 31 22:11:16 2001 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:11:16 -0800 Subject: Multiple Topics - memory vs experience - Sexy Sirius - Meyer-Brigg - Contentment - Names Message-ID: <3AC65603.B8BA4BC6@wicca.net> Hi, all, I've spent the last week in a UNIX class. It was fun but kind of hard, so I had no time to check e-mail, little time to catch newscasts, and my head is still spinning too much to check my calendar.... Now I can have caught up on all my e-mail lists except the main HPfGU list I haven't touched since some time last Monday, and I can't start on it now -- I have to wash and dress and leave the house and go interact with real live human beings face to face (frp game). Sister Mary Lunatic wrote (in post #1319 on 3/28): > Did you ever see that British musician whose long-term > memory-making ability was destroyed by a fever? He > remembered things from before his illness, but was unable > to form new memories since then. His wife could walk > into his room 25 times in one day, and each time he'd greet > her like he hadn't seen her for months -- he simply could > not remember what had happened just a few minutes before. > It was very sad, and frightening. That's what the current movie Memento is about. I haven't seen it, but it has been much discussed in the media. When Tim heard one of those chat shows about it and started questioning me, I directed him to read (actually, listen on cassette, this being Tim) Oliver Sacks' best-seller, The Man Who Mistook His Wife For a Hat, which describes several people who had that syndrome (for them, it was Karsakov's Syndrome caused by alcoholism). My own knee-jerk response to the original question (would I accept a year of perfect happiness on condition that I would never remember it?) was repugnance. I hadn't realised that I was so possessive of my memories and reluctant to allow them to be taken from me.... in fact, I had thought that I wished I *could* forget some of my experiences.... Catherine wrote: > Ebony wrote: > > Thinking Sirius sounded... well, a bit too sexy for a character > > in a book marketed for 8-12 year olds. > Thank goodness I'm not the only one! You-uns are far from the only two to have noticed that Sirius is totally hot -- 'dead sexy' in the phrase that one list member (Alix?) used when she passed as a press person to shout the question to JKR at the Hogwarts Express GoF launch party: "Is Sirius Black meant to be dead sexy?" and JKR IIRC nodded vigorously. Jen Piersol wrote: > This test scored me as an INFP (Searcher), while I've > also been classified as an INTJ I took a previous test, not the ones that people have been discussing here, and I came out INXJ. It was a 40 question test and I got 9 out of 10 for I, 8 out of 10 for N (which indicates that the questions were imperfect: S is SO ALIEN to me), 5 and 5 out of 10 for T and F, and 10 out of 10 for J. That score is what I had guessed based on the descriptions. To me, one of the important differences between P and J is that J is punctual and P is late -- the description said that P takes a deadline as a signal to START working on the assignment, but some Ps have started giving themselves false deadlines earlier than the real deadline so that they will start at the false deadline and thus maybe finish before getting in trouble with the law or whatever for missing the real deadline. > I'm just a jumble of things, really... a SHY jumble. ;) It's so bad > that my husband has finally given up trying to make me call people. > I'd make a bet that I have called to have dinner delivered maybe 6 > times in the (almost) 4 years we've been married... and 2 of those 6 > times were because he was at work and couldn't call for me. > Sometimes, if he is at work, I'll STILL make him call for me. Me, too. I desperately HATE placing phone calls and also feel stressed and terrified if I have to answer one. Except I have learned to *endure* constant phone use at work. > Jen (who REALLY needs to check out the list of therapists her > insurance covers...) If you're reasonably contented and your job and marriage are mostly okay and your children (if any) stay out of prison, you don't NEED a therapist. SPEAKING OF REASONABLY CONTENTED the latest question from that book was about being on a 1 to 10 scale were 1 is misery and struggle and great achievement and 10 is contentment and peace of mind and no achievement. And eventually I realised that perfect contentment and perfect peace of mind means that one is contented and no guilt-tripping about not having any achievements. So I'll choose that one. Hamster Al wrote: > I enclose the list of most popular boys and girls names in the UK for > the year 2000 (snip) Boys (snip) Wassupp Gerbil That list is a hoax, right? Wotan wrote: > Love that moggie BTW! Thank you. I stole my sig file cat -- it was in the sig of some girl's post to one of Tim's porn e-mail lists.... -- /\ /\ + + Mews and views >> = << from Rita Prince Winston ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (((' (((-((('' (((( From msmacgoo at one.net.au Sat Mar 31 09:40:07 2001 From: msmacgoo at one.net.au (Snuffles MacGoo) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:40:07 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Belle & Sebastian/ Off-topic things in other fandoms Message-ID: <01C0BA84.D3076320.msmacgoo@one.net.au> Neil Fold your hands child ... I don't have the derivation for it but it does have an echo (don't ya hate that!) I think it comes from a children's book in which the child is also always being admonished not to 'swing her ankles" by her governess. Also Dianne Wynne Jones - I've just found her courtesy of the "if you liked this read this" list in the HP4GU file (plug for those who don't know about it!) and have read (and loved) Fire and Hemlock. I've not been able to find out if there is a squeal so do you know if there is? Please say yes storm From msmacgoo at one.net.au Sat Mar 31 09:58:55 2001 From: msmacgoo at one.net.au (Snuffles MacGoo) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:58:55 +1000 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Cars Message-ID: <01C0BA84.DA330500.msmacgoo@one.net.au> Hmmm cars, An EH Holdern wagon. Bet none of you know what that is. Or a Hilman Minx. I'm not interested in speed, I'm interested in cute Oh those small mid 60's cars were nice. Storm From nera at rconnect.com Sat Mar 31 22:30:14 2001 From: nera at rconnect.com (Doreen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:30:14 -0600 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: UK Editions References: <9a550u+7p86@eGroups.com> <005b01c0ba27$40a01de0$8e14a3d1@doreen> <003c01c0ba2a$198f7a40$973570c2@c5s910j> Message-ID: <00b201c0ba32$31a37160$8e14a3d1@doreen> > I agree with Doreen that the US > hardbacks are rather more attractive to the look and feel (but others > seem to disagree). The US dust covers have a slightly more textured, > almost recycled feel, whereas the UK dust covers have a smoother, > eggshell finish. ************* So I was touching all of my books for nothing? LOL While I had GoF down, (touching it) I decided to look for the Nagini appearances and found myself, two hours later, late for work. Doreen, who blames all this on Neil's comment, which she took literally... cuz she is a touchy feely person. From pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no Sat Mar 31 23:35:18 2001 From: pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no (pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:35:18 -0000 Subject: Question/request particularly for Brits (no trains involved) Message-ID: <9a5pjm+i362@eGroups.com> I am part of an online HP-based rpg where I play an older Justin Finch-Fletchley. I am still lacking of a suitable picture to illustrate my image of Justin to the other players. However, in the British television-series Heartbeat, one of the prominent characters is PC Phil Bellamy, played by one Mark Jordon. In my mind, he is just about the spitting image of "my" Justin Finch-Fletchley. Unfortunately, websearches turn up only rather small and grainy pictures of him wearing a police-uniform, which is not quite what I was looking for (PC Finch-Fletchley? That'd be the day!). Therefore the question goes out to any who has ever watched Heartbeat (thus knowing what I'm talking about): Do you know of any actor/model of basically similar physical appearance, with online pictures available - age around 25ish? It would help me immensely with conveying an image of my Justin to the other players, particularly as I am quite out of touch with what American actors look like these days. Best regards Christian Stub? From harry_potter00 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 19:07:32 2001 From: harry_potter00 at yahoo.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:07:32 -0000 Subject: HP & Personality Types In-Reply-To: <9a1u56+ps0k@eGroups.com> Message-ID: <9a59tk+3fts@eGroups.com> Saitaina said: "I'm an INTP ("The Conceiver") as well as and "Idealist" (through both tests featured that I could find). It seems I'm so rare I'm the only one of my kind (not really, both are just rare personality and temperament types)." Neil wrote: "Not *so* rare: I also came out as INTP ("The Conceiver") on one test, but I mostly turn out as INFJ ("The Idealist") on these tests. I think I tend towards being a Conceiver when I'm in work mode, but I'm an Idealist in the rest of my life. Hmmm. Saitaina, I wonder how similar we really are? --I've been away for a few days and have hundreds of messages to catch up on on this an the main list, but I had to respond. I also usually come out as an Idealist or Conceiver. We aren't as rare as they thought! Scott