Pronunciations- here German

[meckelburg at foni.net]

Hi Abbie!

The Bavarian, Swabian etc.( apart from viennese, that's Austria amd 
therefore "allowed" to be different) are various slang! not actual 
language and certainly not official! There is such a thing as 
"Hochdeutsch (High-German)" the language without any accent or 
slang, like the written language. All children should be tought in 
that language in school, but the Bavarians have never really cared 
what "all German's did" so they don't care. The language is spoken 
in northern Germany, mainly around Hannover and, at least by the 
younger people,who don't talk "Plattdütsch-(old German)", all the way 
north up to the danish border. So you can learn "German2 if you want 
to.
Just come over and see to yourself. I live about as north as you can 
get!! :-)

Mecki
-- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Starling" <starling823 at y...> wrote:
> Mecki --
> 
> "So, can't you guys decide which language to speak, tell the rest of 
> the world and make it easier for all of us :-)"
> 
> Um, Mecki... hate to break it to you but German's just as bad.  
Since I started taking german in seventh grade I have had to deal with 
Swabian, Bavarian, Viennese, and especially Stierish.  Sure, the 
germans complain  about we english speakers and all the different 
versions thereof -- and obivously, completely forget how frustrating 
it is to try to decipher what the toothless old lady at the farmer's 
market is saying, as she only speaks very strong dialect and doesn't 
understand high german...
> 
> i have yet to meet a student of any language who doesn't complain 
about it.  (i once was treated to a 20 minute lecture by a slovenian, 
who griped about having to learn bosno-croatian in school and how 
frustrating he'd found it -- of course, i learned later that the two 
languages are very very closely related and it's nowhere near as tough 
as he'd made out...)
> 
> abbie, tongue firmly in cheek, an expression that does not translate 
well but is fun to use anyway :)
> 
> 
> starling823 at y...
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we do here!"
>           -HP and the Sorcerer's Stone
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: meckelburg at f... 
>   To: HPFGU-OTChatter at y... Sent: Monday, 07 May, 2001 3:06 PM
>   Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Pronunciations
> 
> 
>   --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" <aiz24 at h...> wrote:
>   Hi Amy!
>   we do go nuts, believe me!
>   I'm German, but moved to Australia as a 7year- old. so, I learn 
>   australian english. Four years later we went back to Germany, I 
had to 
>   learn the complete German grammar etc. as if it were a foreign 
>   language (we kids always found excuses not to speak German in 
>   Australia). In school, we had English and I thought "Oh, how nice! 
An 
>   easy subject". Our teacher came from the UK and every 2nd sentance 
to 
>   me was "wrong pronunciation". I blocked completely, and it took me 
So, can't you guys decide which language to speak, tell the rest of 
>   the world and make it easier for all of us :-)
> 
> 
>   years to believe (and I'm still not sure sometimes (you loose so 
much 
>   of a language if you don't practise regularly)) I can speak 
"English" 
>   - Whatever that is <vbg>
> 
>   Mecki
> 
>   > Someone, somewhere must have written a thorough history of 
English 
>   > pronunciation.  There is certainly no firm logic to the 
>   pronunciation 
>   > of English in any country.  People who learn it as a second 
language 
>   > must go nuts.
>   > 
>   > N.B.:  We don't drop the H in the name Herb, just the plants.  
>   > Important to remember if you're talking to a Herb.
>   > 
>   > Amy Z
> 
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