Foreigners and Titles (Ms. vs. Miss; to Dame or not to Dame)

Rachel Bray bray.262 at osu.edu
Wed May 16 13:40:10 UTC 2001


>The same goes for bowing or courtsying (sp?) to a foreign sovereign. 
>American citizens aren't supposed too. I remember when the Prince and 
>Princess of Wales paid a state visit here. 

You know, that's interesting...because when I went to England in 1988 with 
the Ohio State Youth Choir, we held several charity concerts that raised 
$250,000 (oops...pounds, not dollars) for the Cancer Society.  We went 
through...er...."manners" classes (How do you address a Lord or Lady so-n-
so....that kind of thing) and we were told when we met the Princess (she 
was to be at one of our shows) we were to shake her hand and not bow or 
curtsy, but to somewhat lower our heads in a...nod, for lack of a better 
word.  I would have had trouble with a full bow or curtsy but when I met her, 
all the sudden, I could have cared less about it all.  So the head bow 
seemed very appropriate for me (all 60 of us, actually). 

By the way, she was truly one of the most beautiful women I have ever met, 
both in personality and appearance.  She was bubbly, funny, so very 
friendly and even gave us tips on where to shop.  :-)  She ended up sending 
us to Portebello Road, I think....I could be wrong, it was a long long time 
ago.  But there were a lot of shops and street vendors and I bought a 
gorgeous leather jacket for half the price I would have paid here in the US.

Anyway....

This is an interesting string of conversation.  I've been enjoying it.

Rachel Bray
The Ohio State University
Fees, Deposits and Disbursements

Oh, the thrill of the chase as I soar through the air
With the Snitch up ahead and the wind in my hair
As I draw ever closer, the crowd gives a shout
But then comes a Bludger and I am knocked out.

"I don't know who Jim Henson is but I've heard he has his hand in a 
lot of things around here." - Kermit the Frog, 1972




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