[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Favorite Disney Movies-Beauty and the Beast

[Starling]

I'm switching gears slightly -- I love Beauty and the Beast.  I love Europe and European history, and I've also done a bit of study on fairy tales , and BatB is one where they didn't get too off-track with the story.  I also *love* the music.  
But my absolute scene is when the Beast is watching Belle play in the snow with the Footstool, and starts thinking about what it is he can get her.  Cogsworth (voiced by the always wonderful David Ogden Stiers, said in a wonderfully pithy tone) informs him:  "Well, there's the usual:  Flowers, Chocolates, Promises you don't intend to keep..."
hehe..I can hear his voice in my head.  On it's own, it's only mildly funny, but Stiers makes it magical. <g>

Abbie, who loves anything that Stiers is in.  (he's the only reason i watched Pocahontas).
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  From: Ebony Elizabeth Thomas 
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  Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2001 12:40 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Favorite Disney Movies-Mulan


  One of the main reasons why I liked the Disney version of *Mulan* is because 
  I'm a sucker for *good* father-daughter stories, which are rare.  I loved 
  the way the narrative was framed by Mulan's relationship with her father.

  I first saw Mulan the year my dad died.  And at the end, when he says 
  something to the effect of "the greatest honor is having you for a 
  daughter", I think I cried my eyes out.  I still get misty-eyed over it.

  My eyes also get misty as Mulan watched her father "remember" his former 
  battle moves... and then saw him double over in pain.  Every time I see it, 
  I feel this jolt in my chest, and get a lump in my throat.  Hits close to 
  home, I guess.

  On a lighter note, I think the song "A Girl Worth Fighting For" is funny.  
  Poor Mulan.

  Amber wrote:

  >"Be A Man" is one of my
  >favorite songs from that movie. I don't care that I'm not a man, when
  >the lyrics come about to "You must be swift as the coursing river, with
  >all the force of a great typhoon, with all the strength of a raging
  >fire, mysterious as the dark side of the moon", I feel great pride
  >welling in my chest. Completely unexplainable, but there you go. It
  >just taps into something unknown in me.
  >

  YES!  I love this song too... I think the music and the words are sort of 
  like one of those battle anthems that is supposed to make you feel that way.

  >Although, on second thought, I could see how the song might give young
  >boys the wrong impression on what a "man" is. The emphasis in the song
  >is on physical strength and prowess, not on mental capacity or
  >emotional feeling.

  Yes... I see gender stereotyping there as well.  The movie's storyline 
  contrasts Li Shang's values with Mulan's, though, and I think most viewer 
  sympathies are with Mulan... or should I say, "Ping"?

  >I also highly empathize with the song "Reflections". Especially the
  >part that goes "Who is that girl I see, Staring straight back at me?
  >Why is my reflection someone I don't know?" I think most people have
  >felt this way at some point in their lives.

  Did you know that there are a thousand "Reflections" Harry Potter filks over 
  at ff.net?  That song was my introduction to Christina Aguilera's voice.  
  She isn't even in the same class as Britney Spears and co. IMO.  If she 
  plays her cards right, I think Christina can last and last.

  --Ebony

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  Of harmonies that thundered amongst the stars
  At the creation, ever heard a theme
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